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Speaker 1: What's up, everybody. Welcome into another edition of Crush City Territory.

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Speaker 1: My name is Chandler Roam along with Tyler Stafford and Tyler.

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Speaker 1: I think Steph Curry just hit another three at Toyota Center.

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Speaker 1: I think Fernando Tatis just did something more incredible.

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Speaker 2: It was.

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Speaker 1: It was an interesting weekend in Houston sports, capped off

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Speaker 1: on Sunday by the Ashers dropping a three to two

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Speaker 1: defeat against the San Diego Padres on national television on

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Speaker 1: Sunday Night Baseball. But they did win the first two

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Speaker 1: games of the series, unquestionably probably their three best games

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Speaker 1: They've played in consecutive days this weekend against a very

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Speaker 1: good opponent, and like we mentioned on the last pod,

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Speaker 1: they did not have maybe their a pitching rotation going

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Speaker 1: a nice, a nice showing for a team that needed it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, they look good. I mean, taking two or three

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Speaker 2: from the Padres definitely feels good. You know, pitching was

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Speaker 2: was pretty good, you know, considering who it was that

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Speaker 2: was going out there. You said, Steph Curry, Okay, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna I'm gonna show my true Rockets fandom here. I

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Speaker 2: don't watch basketball unless the Rockets are in the playoffs,

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Speaker 2: So it's been a while since I watched basketball. I

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Speaker 2: switched over to the Rockets game as soon as the

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Speaker 2: Astros game was over, and they kept calling him Stephan Curry.

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Speaker 2: Did I miss when they switched to calling him Stephan Curry?

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Speaker 2: Sound off in the comments? When did that happen? Because

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Speaker 2: I've never heard that in my life, and they they

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Speaker 2: called him that one of the time.

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Speaker 1: So they're they're calling him first and last.

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Speaker 2: Name, yeah anytime. I mean, I mean they would say

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Speaker 2: Curry every once in a while, but they would say

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Speaker 2: Stephan Curry. If they said his full name, it was

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Speaker 2: always Stefan. And I don't know when that happened.

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Speaker 1: I feel like he is at a spot where he

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Speaker 1: should just be Steph, like.

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Speaker 2: He yeah, but they never called him Steph. It was

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Speaker 2: always Stefan Curry. So I don't know what ha happened.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if there was like a pr thing

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Speaker 2: that happened. Somebody will let us know, but it was

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Speaker 2: it was throwing me off for most of the game,

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Speaker 2: Like why they keep calling him Stephan? I mean, I

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Speaker 2: know that's his name, but I've never heard someone call

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Speaker 1: Yeah, maybe that's like something he wants I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but he is in the rarefied air where he's too late.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yes, yeah, like that that is like undeniable.

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Speaker 1: But again, like I'm like you, I only tune into

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Speaker 1: the Rockets when the games are like meaningful or or

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Speaker 1: the playoffs. So I don't know. I could have been

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Speaker 1: missing this. This could have been a thing for the

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Speaker 1: last four months and I don't know about so. But

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Speaker 1: he's still good though, good player. They should they should

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Speaker 1: put more guys on him mm hmm when he wants

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Speaker 1: to shoot thirty five foot threes. But there's more games

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Speaker 1: for them to uh to think about that. So we'll

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Speaker 1: do something a little bit different today, going back to

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Speaker 1: the Astros. We'll do something a little bit different. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna do a stock report. So they played twenty one games.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna look at four. We're gonna get four or

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Speaker 1: five players and putting them in a different category stock

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Speaker 1: up stock downs sort of thing. And I think Tyler

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Speaker 1: because they just played the San Diego Padres, let's honor

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Speaker 1: a former Padre for our first our first analysis here.

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Speaker 1: Josh Hater is really good.

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Speaker 2: And he's so good, so good.

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Speaker 1: I know, I know you you've been on this soapbox

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Speaker 1: for a while about how he gets kind of an.

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Speaker 2: Unfair It's the easiest soapbox in the world to be

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Speaker 2: on is that Josh Hater is good at pitching. And

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Speaker 2: I will stand by it.

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Speaker 1: And I have said in the past the reason why

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Speaker 1: he got a lot of criticism from fans last year

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Speaker 1: is because when you paid ninety five million dollars, it

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Speaker 1: better look, you know, pretty wipe out, pretty elite. There

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Speaker 1: better be no hiccups. He has looked every bit a

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Speaker 1: ninety five million dollar closer to start this season. In

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Speaker 1: his first nine appearances, he has six saves, he has

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Speaker 1: thirteen strikeouts and eleven innings. He's allowed one run. He

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Speaker 1: Was was just incredible. And he has been. It has

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Speaker 1: gotten lost because of the uneven nature of their season.

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Speaker 1: Right they went fourteen straight games where they alternated wins

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Speaker 1: This is the Josh Hater that the Astros thought they

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Speaker 1: they get this all season, that is a huge boon

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Speaker 1: to a bullpen that needs it.

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Speaker 2: It's the Josh Hater that was there from like May

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Speaker 2: on of last year. He had like one bad month,

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Speaker 2: and because relievers throw so few innings, it's you the

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Speaker 2: whole season. He's so good. He's second on the pitching

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Speaker 2: He's so good. And uh yeah, that's a that's an

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Speaker 1: Do you want to see something insane?

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Speaker 2: I can't wait to find out what this is gonna be.

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Speaker 1: If you're if you're watching on YouTube, you're in for

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Speaker 1: a treat. Look at this, like, I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: look at all that red. Like red is good.

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Speaker 2: Chandler has pulled up his baseball savant uh percentile raking

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Speaker 2: and it is literally just all like eightieth ninetieth percentile

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Speaker 1: He has a twenty percent hard hit rate and a

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Speaker 1: forty point three percent chase rate. Like that is elite.

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Speaker 2: And there's two pitches. It's like, you know, how good

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Speaker 2: There's only two of them. You can pick one and

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Speaker 1: And remember all that talk in the UH in spring train,

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Speaker 2: He could throw that fastball every time and it would

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's you know, and at points last year he

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Speaker 1: it's been nine games he pitched, so like, let's not

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Speaker 1: overreact to what he's doing. But like it's clear he

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Speaker 1: and he has been I think this weekend when they

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you know who else is good? Who is Cam Smith?

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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it, let's do it.

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Speaker 2: He rules. Dude, he's so good. He's I cannot believe

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Speaker 2: But I mean, dude, he looks like he's been playing

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Speaker 1: He drove well. This was rendered mood a day later,

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Speaker 1: but I did use this line in my story. On

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Speaker 1: little bit later. He's not in the stock up category.

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Speaker 1: But a couple of things about camp Smith. This weekend

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Speaker 1: that were more that were encouraging to me. One he

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Speaker 1: Before Friday's game, he hit both of his home runs

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Speaker 1: to the pull side. Only seven major league hitters were

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Speaker 1: So all this thought, and look, I had this thought

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Speaker 1: That is what he's naturally trying to do. He's naturally

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Speaker 1: Asher's hitting coaches had been telling him, start your load quicker,

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Speaker 1: and Cam Smith said this on Friday, his natural reactions

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Speaker 1: stuff like that that at bat to me, showed more

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean this time last year, he was facing

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Speaker 1: sell great insurance here.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, hey I'm in sales. No, no shame. Uh. But yeah,

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Speaker 2: he wouldn't face a Suarez a year ago. And like

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Speaker 2: you said, it, it's thee a bass, it's it's every pitch.

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Speaker 2: He just looks so comfortable in the box. And like

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Speaker 2: I said, he's playing right field, Like that makes no sense.

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Speaker 2: He should not be able to do that. I don't

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Speaker 2: ago he learned how to. Did he even have a glove?

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Speaker 2: Probably not right like.

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Speaker 1: I think he brought one, because again, the whole plan

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Speaker 1: Tyler, would you like to guess who has the highest

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Speaker 2: Well, I would like to guess that it's Jake Myers.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you're really good at this. Jake Myers does have

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Speaker 1: let's preface this with Jake Myers did this last year.

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Speaker 2: to do was not hit things that were out of

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Speaker 2: the strike zone and crush it at that bring it on.

431
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Speaker 1: I mean, unless you're Josel Tuve, who hit a ball

432
00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:44,639
Speaker 1: tonight that was like two feet off the ground the

433
00:21:44,720 --> 00:21:47,200
Speaker 1: other way for a single, Like it was just he's

434
00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:48,040
Speaker 1: just so good at.

435
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:49,840
Speaker 2: That, and he swung through one that was like over

436
00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,359
Speaker 2: his head. I love it, Keep doing it?

437
00:21:53,400 --> 00:21:56,600
Speaker 1: Who cares you love with it? Speaking of people that

438
00:21:56,840 --> 00:21:59,920
Speaker 1: swing at things over their heads and can't get things done,

439
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:03,080
Speaker 1: know this, this was a This was a bad weekend

440
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 1: in a what is becoming a bad month for your Diaz.

441
00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:11,960
Speaker 1: He it doesn't look like it's getting much better, and

442
00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:15,560
Speaker 1: I don't know what they can realistically do at this point.

443
00:22:15,600 --> 00:22:17,760
Speaker 1: I mean he's there, he's their catcher. I mean, he's

444
00:22:18,560 --> 00:22:21,760
Speaker 1: Joe Spota, you know, sad him totally. On Sunday, he

445
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:23,800
Speaker 1: pinch hit him late in the game and for the

446
00:22:23,840 --> 00:22:26,240
Speaker 1: final at bad against Robert Swarez, and he struck out.

447
00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,600
Speaker 1: Pinch hit him for dubonner. Diaz now has a four

448
00:22:29,680 --> 00:22:33,639
Speaker 1: oh four ops and sixty three at bats. He is

449
00:22:33,800 --> 00:22:37,480
Speaker 1: nine for sixty three. He has three extra base hits.

450
00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,920
Speaker 1: He's he's again. This is a guy that we talked

451
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,440
Speaker 1: about because his bats to ball skills are so good.

452
00:22:44,440 --> 00:22:46,040
Speaker 1: He's gonna swing in a lot of pitches. He's gonna

453
00:22:46,040 --> 00:22:48,280
Speaker 1: swing in a lot of stuff that's everywhere, and he's

454
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: just not making enough contact. He's expanding. Joe spot a

455
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:56,159
Speaker 1: talk before the game today, saying that he thought Yiner

456
00:22:56,359 --> 00:22:59,600
Speaker 1: was swinging at some better pitches, thought the chasing was

457
00:22:59,640 --> 00:23:02,560
Speaker 1: getting a little bit better. But every time you go

458
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 1: out there, every time he goes out there, it's kind

459
00:23:04,480 --> 00:23:07,679
Speaker 1: of difficult to see that with your own eyes, and Tyler,

460
00:23:08,320 --> 00:23:11,880
Speaker 1: I don't know what the what the what the recourse

461
00:23:11,960 --> 00:23:13,600
Speaker 1: is here, like, I don't know what you do. Do

462
00:23:13,640 --> 00:23:15,879
Speaker 1: you just ride this out? Do you just kind of

463
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:18,080
Speaker 1: keep playing him and hope it gets better? Do you

464
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,120
Speaker 1: play Victor Carrot anymore? Do you you just mentioned Zach

465
00:23:22,160 --> 00:23:25,480
Speaker 1: Dezenzo's on this roster for no reason? Do you look

466
00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:27,880
Speaker 1: to Triple A and say, hey, like, let's get Saysar

467
00:23:27,960 --> 00:23:30,919
Speaker 1: Salazar up here. He's a left handed bat. Gives you

468
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,320
Speaker 1: some balance on the bench, gives you a third catcher.

469
00:23:33,400 --> 00:23:36,359
Speaker 1: I'm not saying he's gonna take over playing time for Daz,

470
00:23:36,400 --> 00:23:38,679
Speaker 1: but he would at least give Joe a spot, us

471
00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:42,679
Speaker 1: some flexibility to do some different things with Keratini, to

472
00:23:42,760 --> 00:23:46,000
Speaker 1: do some different things with Diez. It's a tough situation

473
00:23:46,119 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: when you're everyday catcher and a guy that you're counting

474
00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:49,919
Speaker 1: on to hit in the middle of girl or is

475
00:23:49,920 --> 00:23:50,879
Speaker 1: scuffling as badly.

476
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Speaker 2: If it were October, I would say, yes, you need

477
00:23:54,560 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 2: to get him out of there. Have somebody who could

478
00:23:57,119 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 2: do something. But it's April and yainard As is your

479
00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:05,639
Speaker 2: future and you just got to ride with it for

480
00:24:05,680 --> 00:24:09,520
Speaker 2: a while and see what happens, because I mean, look,

481
00:24:10,440 --> 00:24:16,600
Speaker 2: no disrespect to Salazar or Quarantini, but you know they're

482
00:24:16,720 --> 00:24:20,119
Speaker 2: they're not Yeiner. They don't have the ceiling that Yiner has,

483
00:24:20,680 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 2: and so marginally being better right now is not worth it.

484
00:24:27,119 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 2: But I sure don't want to see him in the

485
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:32,840
Speaker 2: five hole right now. I don't want to see him

486
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:39,919
Speaker 2: anywhere near an important spot of the lineup, because look,

487
00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:43,760
Speaker 2: it's one thing if you're going to chase everything and

488
00:24:43,800 --> 00:24:47,120
Speaker 2: when you do make contact, you're squaring it up. He's

489
00:24:47,160 --> 00:24:50,480
Speaker 2: not even doing that, like when he makes contact, it's

490
00:24:50,520 --> 00:24:56,439
Speaker 2: little dribblers, like it's just it is rough, rough to

491
00:24:56,560 --> 00:25:00,280
Speaker 2: watch right now. And I mean, yeah, I mean he

492
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,160
Speaker 2: needs to be bad in seventh, eighth, ninth, somewhere down

493
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:05,159
Speaker 2: there and just let him figure it out for a month.

494
00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:11,280
Speaker 2: But no, you can't. You can't replace him with with

495
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:16,280
Speaker 2: Quarantini or Salazar. That that's just not it's not going

496
00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:22,879
Speaker 2: to serve you anything long term. But good lord, is

497
00:25:23,359 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 2: he not doing well right now?

498
00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,600
Speaker 1: And look, I wasn't suggesting that they should replace him

499
00:25:29,760 --> 00:25:34,440
Speaker 1: with either Keratini or Salazar, but getting Salazar up. Salazar

500
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:37,840
Speaker 1: would be a more useful piece for Joe Aspata at

501
00:25:37,840 --> 00:25:39,879
Speaker 1: this point in Zach Denzenda, because that Decenzo has no

502
00:25:39,920 --> 00:25:42,480
Speaker 1: path to play on this team, like the positions.

503
00:25:42,480 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: That'side. He played first base for an inning today, what

504
00:25:45,720 --> 00:25:46,600
Speaker 2: are you talking about?

505
00:25:46,760 --> 00:25:49,000
Speaker 1: He did, And we'll get to the guy he replaced

506
00:25:49,040 --> 00:25:52,240
Speaker 1: in a little bit. But there is a path though

507
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,520
Speaker 1: for Sala Like you can do some different things with Salazar,

508
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:59,399
Speaker 1: you can, like if I'm just thinking of if it

509
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:03,440
Speaker 1: keeps going like this, like if in two weeks we're

510
00:26:03,440 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: having the same conversation about Yan or Diaz. If his

511
00:26:06,359 --> 00:26:09,639
Speaker 1: ops still starts with a four or five in two weeks,

512
00:26:10,280 --> 00:26:12,520
Speaker 1: then they're gonna have to be confronted with some Look,

513
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:14,879
Speaker 1: they're not gonna bench him all together. They're not gonna

514
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:18,240
Speaker 1: not play him. But you can have more of an

515
00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: equal time share. You can play Carotini a little bit more.

516
00:26:21,880 --> 00:26:25,199
Speaker 1: You can use Salazar in certain situations. You can just

517
00:26:25,320 --> 00:26:28,560
Speaker 1: have just having that insurance blanket because right now Joe

518
00:26:28,600 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 1: Spota can't afford to play you know, Krotini for a

519
00:26:32,200 --> 00:26:34,800
Speaker 1: couple of reasons. You know, Krotini is the only similars

520
00:26:34,840 --> 00:26:36,880
Speaker 1: of balance you have on this team. He's a switch hitter.

521
00:26:37,280 --> 00:26:40,520
Speaker 1: Everyone else is right handed aside from Alvarez. So on

522
00:26:40,560 --> 00:26:43,160
Speaker 1: the days that Joe A. Spotta wants another left handed

523
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: bat in his lineup, like he's making himself really vulnerable

524
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,160
Speaker 1: because he's playing Krotini and Diaz at the same time.

525
00:26:49,920 --> 00:26:52,720
Speaker 1: All it takes is whoever those two guys is catching.

526
00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,520
Speaker 1: All it takes is one foul tip and you are

527
00:26:56,280 --> 00:26:58,719
Speaker 1: up a creek without a paddle because you don't have

528
00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: a you know, I'm a third catcher. You have Salazar

529
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 1: there at least that gives jell a spot a more

530
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:06,639
Speaker 1: freedom and flexibility to to do some different things with

531
00:27:06,680 --> 00:27:10,199
Speaker 1: his lineup, to get a left handed bat higher up

532
00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 1: in the lineup, to hit the dinerdas maybe lower in

533
00:27:12,560 --> 00:27:15,239
Speaker 1: the lineup. It it opens up a lot more than

534
00:27:15,280 --> 00:27:18,320
Speaker 1: maybe anything descends over it. So that's maybe something they're

535
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:21,400
Speaker 1: going to consider. I'm not breaking any news here, but

536
00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,280
Speaker 1: I don't think Zach Dezenzo is going to be on

537
00:27:24,280 --> 00:27:27,200
Speaker 1: this roster much longer. I think that decision is coming

538
00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:31,879
Speaker 1: fairly soon, if not eminently, So it'll be interesting to

539
00:27:31,880 --> 00:27:33,919
Speaker 1: see what they do to replace him. But you know,

540
00:27:34,200 --> 00:27:36,679
Speaker 1: Salasar is on the forty man roster, and if you

541
00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:38,840
Speaker 1: look down at Triple A sugar Land, there's no one

542
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:42,119
Speaker 1: really knocking on the door. That's that's rare to go

543
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,840
Speaker 1: that's going to come immediately help this lineup. So something

544
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: for them to think about. Again, it's early, or Dias

545
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,720
Speaker 1: is he's only taken sixty three at bats. This is

546
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:57,840
Speaker 1: not an overreaction sort of, This is not yeah yeah,

547
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:02,359
Speaker 1: But again, like you talked about, they broke camp thinking

548
00:28:02,400 --> 00:28:04,159
Speaker 1: that the middle of their order was going to be

549
00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:11,119
Speaker 1: some version of Alvarez Walker Diez and one out of

550
00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 1: three is not what you're looking for in the middle

551
00:28:15,040 --> 00:28:17,880
Speaker 1: of the order, and you know, to make matters worse,

552
00:28:18,040 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 1: Christian Walker remains in the stock down category. We say

553
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 1: this after he did hit a big home run in

554
00:28:26,080 --> 00:28:28,679
Speaker 1: Saturday's game that was a big lift for them, but

555
00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:32,600
Speaker 1: again hasn't done much else, did not look good at all.

556
00:28:32,680 --> 00:28:36,840
Speaker 1: On Sunday, Joe Spottam moved him Saturday, he moved him

557
00:28:36,920 --> 00:28:40,120
Speaker 1: into the five hole, put Jeremy opinion in the cleanup spot.

558
00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520
Speaker 1: I think that's something that is going to stick for

559
00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,640
Speaker 1: a little bit until Christian Walker demonstrates that he should

560
00:28:46,800 --> 00:28:49,959
Speaker 1: that he that he merits hitting clean up. You know,

561
00:28:50,040 --> 00:28:53,040
Speaker 1: we talked about this with Josh Tyler. It's it's one

562
00:28:53,080 --> 00:28:54,720
Speaker 1: thing to say, I'll move him down, move him down,

563
00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:57,800
Speaker 1: move him down. But like, this is not a lineup

564
00:28:57,840 --> 00:28:59,680
Speaker 1: right now where there's a ton of guys that you

565
00:28:59,680 --> 00:29:02,320
Speaker 1: can just say that you readily want to move up,

566
00:29:02,360 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: that you want to readily get more at bats. Like

567
00:29:04,320 --> 00:29:06,240
Speaker 1: we just talked about Jake Myers. You won't Jake Myers

568
00:29:06,280 --> 00:29:10,080
Speaker 1: in the middle of this lineup, Like no, no, Like

569
00:29:10,920 --> 00:29:13,160
Speaker 1: it's it's it's gonna be up to Christian Walker to

570
00:29:13,280 --> 00:29:16,840
Speaker 1: figure it out. And I was thinking about this today

571
00:29:16,880 --> 00:29:18,880
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna We're gonna tie in both of these

572
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: guys together. Who are you more concerned about long term

573
00:29:24,000 --> 00:29:26,280
Speaker 1: in this season? Are you more concerned about Walker and

574
00:29:26,280 --> 00:29:27,680
Speaker 1: you're more concerned.

575
00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:32,360
Speaker 2: About Diaz Jeiner one hundred per Yer has looked lost,

576
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 2: just completely lost. Christian Walker has looked very bad, but

577
00:29:40,560 --> 00:29:43,040
Speaker 2: it is not to the same level and he has

578
00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:47,640
Speaker 2: a much longer track record of success. His bats beat

579
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 2: is still there, Like it's not like it's not like

580
00:29:51,840 --> 00:29:56,080
Speaker 2: he aged overnight and like can't swing anymore. It's just,

581
00:29:56,840 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 2: you know, decisions are bad. He's not making good contact,

582
00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:07,000
Speaker 2: but he's still swinging hard. And he also is really

583
00:30:07,040 --> 00:30:11,400
Speaker 2: really good at first base, and it's providing like phenomenal defense,

584
00:30:11,600 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: even the ones that fans are complaining about, where he'll

585
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 2: like get a glove on something and it's like, oh,

586
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:18,239
Speaker 2: he didn't make that. I'm like, dude, no one else

587
00:30:18,280 --> 00:30:19,760
Speaker 2: would have been within ten feet of that.

588
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 1: There were the two balls today on Fromber that that

589
00:30:24,600 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: bounced out of his glove, Like, I don't think there

590
00:30:26,960 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 1: was a first basement on this team last year that

591
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,120
Speaker 1: would have kept those balls on the infield.

592
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:32,600
Speaker 2: I don't think there's a first baseman in the big

593
00:30:32,680 --> 00:30:37,360
Speaker 2: leagues that like he's Again, it is difficult to explain

594
00:30:37,480 --> 00:30:41,040
Speaker 2: how much better like he is than the second best

595
00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:44,760
Speaker 2: defensive first baseman in base But he's so good at

596
00:30:44,800 --> 00:30:48,440
Speaker 2: first base, and so yeah, he's gonna get his glove

597
00:30:48,480 --> 00:30:51,840
Speaker 2: on some that you know he didn't get to. But

598
00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,320
Speaker 2: even that one today where it ended up first and

599
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,840
Speaker 2: second because he couldn't get the out, that should have

600
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,080
Speaker 2: been first and third. It should have just been a

601
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:04,080
Speaker 2: grounder through the right side of the infield. So I'm

602
00:31:04,200 --> 00:31:07,640
Speaker 2: less concerned about Walker. I mean, it's it's getting crunch

603
00:31:07,720 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: time of like all right, man, time to time to

604
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:15,000
Speaker 2: start figuring things out. But the ironer scares me a

605
00:31:15,040 --> 00:31:17,000
Speaker 2: whole lot more than than Walker.

606
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: Still, the track record thing is something that I would

607
00:31:20,320 --> 00:31:22,200
Speaker 1: point to him. Look, I'm not about to trot out

608
00:31:22,240 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: back of the baseball card here. I know that's a

609
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:27,960
Speaker 1: that's a that's a dirty that's a dirty phrase to

610
00:31:28,000 --> 00:31:30,000
Speaker 1: a lot of Astros fans, given that you heard it

611
00:31:30,080 --> 00:31:33,240
Speaker 1: so much last year through the Jose bradyusaga. But there's

612
00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,959
Speaker 1: some merit to it, Like when you get guys with

613
00:31:37,400 --> 00:31:41,080
Speaker 1: the track with the longevity that Christian Walker has.

614
00:31:40,920 --> 00:31:44,240
Speaker 2: Like he's thirty or four. He's not forty either. You know,

615
00:31:44,280 --> 00:31:47,120
Speaker 2: it's not like, yeah.

616
00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:49,040
Speaker 1: But those guys like Christian Walker didn't forget how to

617
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:53,720
Speaker 1: hit over there. Now he's got He's got three to

618
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:58,600
Speaker 1: five major league seasons of sustained success, complete seasons where

619
00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:03,160
Speaker 1: he has done very well. Yaner Diaz has produced for

620
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 1: one entire major league season. Like we don't we don't

621
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: need to reletigate twenty twenty three about how Dusty Baker.

622
00:32:10,480 --> 00:32:12,400
Speaker 1: You know, how he played him, how he deployed him.

623
00:32:12,480 --> 00:32:14,480
Speaker 1: He played one hundred and four games that year. That's

624
00:32:14,600 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 1: that's not that is a partial season. He has one

625
00:32:17,520 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 1: full season in twenty twenty four. We played one hundred

626
00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 1: and forty eight games and took six hundred and nineteen

627
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,600
Speaker 1: played appearances at one hundred and seventeen ops plus. This

628
00:32:25,640 --> 00:32:30,520
Speaker 1: guy has one full season of sustained success. And in

629
00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 1: that one full season, he went his final one hundred

630
00:32:34,440 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 1: and twenty six played appearances of the season without a

631
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:40,160
Speaker 1: home run. So we have seen this guy have slumps

632
00:32:40,200 --> 00:32:42,800
Speaker 1: even in the biggest even in the one season where

633
00:32:42,800 --> 00:32:47,560
Speaker 1: he's had success. That to me worries. Now again, we

634
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:50,479
Speaker 1: are still in that part of the season where he

635
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:54,000
Speaker 1: has he puts four or five good days together, and

636
00:32:54,040 --> 00:32:57,080
Speaker 1: we're not talking about this. The numbers can easily be remedied.

637
00:32:57,120 --> 00:33:01,400
Speaker 1: But as we sit here right now, I'm probably more

638
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,400
Speaker 1: concerned about Jiner Diaz and where they can go from

639
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:07,080
Speaker 1: here with him. And to be quite frank, looking at

640
00:33:07,080 --> 00:33:10,640
Speaker 1: how Joe Aspada has handled both situations between Christian Walker

641
00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,160
Speaker 1: and Yiner Diaz, I tend to say he agrees, and

642
00:33:14,200 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: I'm I'm not saying that he's told me that, but

643
00:33:16,480 --> 00:33:19,400
Speaker 1: I'm just going by his actions. Like Yiner has sat

644
00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 1: out multiple games. Yeah, Yeiner's being dropped down the lineup quicker,

645
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:29,080
Speaker 1: Like the quality of the at bats are so poor

646
00:33:29,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: that you are seeing more drastic action from Joe Espada

647
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,880
Speaker 1: when it comes to Diaz as opposed to Walker, who

648
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:39,280
Speaker 1: I mean, look, we're not going to sit here and

649
00:33:39,320 --> 00:33:42,520
Speaker 1: give Christian Walker a twenty million dollar first basement pats

650
00:33:42,520 --> 00:33:45,320
Speaker 1: on the back because he's drawing walks, but the bats

651
00:33:45,560 --> 00:33:49,400
Speaker 1: look better than Walker's. He's just Diaz has excuse me,

652
00:33:49,680 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: he's just not getting the results. Diaz Is at bats

653
00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,840
Speaker 1: don't look good and the results magic.

654
00:33:55,760 --> 00:33:59,600
Speaker 2: And again there's a floor that Walker can provide defensively.

655
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 2: I have three stolen bases against Yiner this year, just

656
00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:07,640
Speaker 2: on accident, just walking into my car. So it's not

657
00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:09,799
Speaker 2: even like you can say, oh, well, at least, you know,

658
00:34:09,840 --> 00:34:12,040
Speaker 2: it's not like a Maldonado thing where it's like, yeah,

659
00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:14,719
Speaker 2: he's not hitting, but he does all the magic in

660
00:34:14,760 --> 00:34:19,680
Speaker 2: the background, right like it's it's rough. I don't know.

661
00:34:19,719 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: I'd probably offer him like a seven year, seventy five

662
00:34:23,040 --> 00:34:28,000
Speaker 2: million dollar extension and just see what happens. But yeah,

663
00:34:28,040 --> 00:34:29,680
Speaker 2: it's it's not good.

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Speaker 1: Should be noted that not all stolen bases are on

665
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Speaker 1: the catcher. Pitching staff does an awful job of holding runners,

666
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:42,640
Speaker 1: of incorporating slide steps, of knowing the pitch clad that

667
00:34:42,680 --> 00:34:45,640
Speaker 1: they're not good at varying their times to home plate.

668
00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,760
Speaker 1: So a lot of times Jannerdy has it a chance,

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Speaker 1: just given the way that this pitching staff operates. But

670
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Speaker 1: I will say we spent the entire Padres preview pod

671
00:34:54,280 --> 00:34:56,080
Speaker 1: talking about how they're gonna run all over them, and

672
00:34:56,160 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: that really never happened.

673
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Speaker 2: Yep.

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Speaker 1: You know, so look you saw a couple I think

675
00:35:01,840 --> 00:35:06,160
Speaker 1: you saw Ryan Gusto have some slidesteps. You saw fromber Valdez.

676
00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:10,080
Speaker 1: Hold the running game okay in Sunday's game, and the

677
00:35:10,080 --> 00:35:12,600
Speaker 1: biggest thing is like if you don't allow guys on bass,

678
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,080
Speaker 1: then that that usually helps that they're not going to

679
00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:16,279
Speaker 1: run you if they're not on base.

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00:35:16,880 --> 00:35:20,200
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. That's a new strategy I'm trying out. Maybe

681
00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:22,719
Speaker 2: just don't let anybody on bass. That's what I'd say

682
00:35:22,719 --> 00:35:25,319
Speaker 2: if I was a pitching coach. You want that?

683
00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: Do you want to hear something really weird that's going

684
00:35:27,160 --> 00:35:28,760
Speaker 1: to be in a story that posts on the Athletic

685
00:35:28,800 --> 00:35:30,720
Speaker 1: on Monday morning about the Ashers bullpen.

686
00:35:31,520 --> 00:35:32,240
Speaker 2: Is there a ghost?

687
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:35,000
Speaker 1: There's not a ghost? No, okay, all right, we'll give

688
00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:39,280
Speaker 1: kind of the ghost of Ryan Presley because Force Whitley's

689
00:35:39,320 --> 00:35:40,080
Speaker 1: wearing fifty five.

690
00:35:40,160 --> 00:35:43,640
Speaker 2: Now, oh oh, I saw the Lensingum thing.

691
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,399
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's an o to Tim Lenscam who was who

692
00:35:46,480 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: was Force Whitley's like childhood idol. He then at the

693
00:35:50,719 --> 00:35:52,759
Speaker 1: end of the interview goes, oh, yeah, and Ryan Presley too.

694
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:54,799
Speaker 1: But yeah, did you.

695
00:35:54,840 --> 00:35:57,880
Speaker 2: Say does it even work to say that Whitley looked

696
00:35:57,920 --> 00:36:00,200
Speaker 2: up to Lensicum because I don't know that that was

697
00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,920
Speaker 2: ever physically possible. Maybe in like fifth grade.

698
00:36:04,040 --> 00:36:06,000
Speaker 1: We would have to know when Force Whittley is a

699
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:09,120
Speaker 1: growth burg But yeah, Force Whitley doesn't look up at

700
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,400
Speaker 1: many people. He looks down on a lot of people.

701
00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,359
Speaker 1: But it was interesting. So when they activated him off

702
00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:18,759
Speaker 1: the IL, I Force Whitley can hit ninety nine. He

703
00:36:19,400 --> 00:36:22,000
Speaker 1: hovers around ninety seven ninety eight with his fastball, So

704
00:36:22,080 --> 00:36:25,000
Speaker 1: it was like, you know, they don't really have anyone

705
00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,320
Speaker 1: like they have Brian A. Brady who throws very hard,

706
00:36:27,360 --> 00:36:29,360
Speaker 1: but they don't really have anyone like that. So I

707
00:36:29,400 --> 00:36:31,520
Speaker 1: was like, let me look into this and like kind

708
00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,560
Speaker 1: of get some numbers on it. Did you know that

709
00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 1: the Astros bullpen throws more fastballs than any bullpen in baseball?

710
00:36:41,760 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 2: Yeah? I mean that tracks because Hayter throws a ton

711
00:36:46,239 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 2: of fastballs. Taylor Scott, I'm sure his counts the weird

712
00:36:51,200 --> 00:36:56,600
Speaker 2: sinker that he throws. And then Brian King just throws

713
00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,040
Speaker 2: ninety three mile an hour fastballs where ever he wants

714
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:04,120
Speaker 2: and then gets everybody out, which is fun. Yeah, that's interesting.

715
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Speaker 1: I'm glad you brought up ninety three because here's the

716
00:37:06,280 --> 00:37:09,400
Speaker 1: other part of it. They throw the most fastballs of

717
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 1: any bullpen in baseball. They have an average velocity on

718
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,399
Speaker 1: their fastballs of ninety three point six miles an hour,

719
00:37:16,719 --> 00:37:21,759
Speaker 1: which is the seventh slowest in the Big leagues. So

720
00:37:22,239 --> 00:37:25,160
Speaker 1: they don't throw hard, but they throw a lot of

721
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,279
Speaker 1: fastballs anyway. So it's gonna be interesting because I think

722
00:37:29,320 --> 00:37:33,120
Speaker 1: that this is what they are missing, a right handed

723
00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: power velocity arm kind of in the middle, Like they

724
00:37:36,719 --> 00:37:38,959
Speaker 1: can't just rely on Brian A. Brady to throw ninety

725
00:37:39,000 --> 00:37:41,279
Speaker 1: eight then that be their only power arm guy. And

726
00:37:41,400 --> 00:37:43,839
Speaker 1: Josh Haters got some high velocities from the left side.

727
00:37:44,400 --> 00:37:46,360
Speaker 1: He's a different cat all together, and he's not going

728
00:37:46,400 --> 00:37:50,319
Speaker 1: to pitch in middle innings getting Whitley and Caleble work.

729
00:37:50,320 --> 00:37:53,120
Speaker 1: They'll get Caleb work back, I believe, you know, pretty eminently,

730
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,759
Speaker 1: probably Monday or Tuesday. That's another guy that throws around

731
00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:58,719
Speaker 1: ninety eight. I think it'll be very different dimension that

732
00:37:58,760 --> 00:38:01,360
Speaker 1: they need, because I think he even saw it in

733
00:38:01,400 --> 00:38:06,360
Speaker 1: tonight's game asking Steven Okert, a left handed pitcher, to

734
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 1: go out and face the middle of the Padres order,

735
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:14,120
Speaker 1: which is basically all right handed they they need. They

736
00:38:14,120 --> 00:38:16,839
Speaker 1: need a couple more just right handed guys and can

737
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 1: go in there and throw gas throw ninety eight, ninety seven,

738
00:38:20,239 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 1: ninety eight, and they're gonna get that and Forced Whitley

739
00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:25,480
Speaker 1: and Caleb Board And it's an interesting thing to analyze

740
00:38:25,520 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: because like, the bullpen's been really good. They have the

741
00:38:27,239 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: fourth lowest dra and baseball their bullpen does. It's not

742
00:38:31,280 --> 00:38:35,200
Speaker 1: as if like them having meager velocity is hindering them,

743
00:38:35,840 --> 00:38:37,879
Speaker 1: but I think it's something that can only make them

744
00:38:37,920 --> 00:38:43,399
Speaker 1: better because you know, Tyler like bullpens. The best bullpens

745
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:48,000
Speaker 1: have diversity, They have diverse looks. And when you start

746
00:38:48,040 --> 00:38:51,000
Speaker 1: to look at this bullpen, like, yeah, they've got some

747
00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:54,320
Speaker 1: funky guys, like no one knows why Brian kings fastball

748
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: does what he does. Taylor Scott throws from a different

749
00:38:56,280 --> 00:38:58,640
Speaker 1: slot they have. They have a bunch of lefties. But

750
00:38:59,719 --> 00:39:02,160
Speaker 1: I think I think they could they could benefit from

751
00:39:02,320 --> 00:39:04,359
Speaker 1: having someone other than Brian A Bray who come in

752
00:39:04,360 --> 00:39:05,600
Speaker 1: in through ninety seven, ninety eight.

753
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Speaker 2: He was activated for the weekend, right, he just didn't

754
00:39:07,880 --> 00:39:08,120
Speaker 2: get in.

755
00:39:08,520 --> 00:39:10,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, he so he's activated on Saturday, so he was

756
00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:14,600
Speaker 1: available on Saturday and the other things game, yeah, and

757
00:39:14,640 --> 00:39:17,480
Speaker 1: the other thing. This has been interesting. Have you noticed

758
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,840
Speaker 1: Joe A. Spota The one trend I've noticed in his

759
00:39:21,000 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 1: kind of two year managerial tenure when games are close,

760
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:29,759
Speaker 1: like when they're within three runs. He does not light

761
00:39:30,040 --> 00:39:33,120
Speaker 1: going the guys that don't have a real track record,

762
00:39:33,480 --> 00:39:36,920
Speaker 1: like like Logan van Y was up in Seattle and

763
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,320
Speaker 1: like all those games were close and he was throwing

764
00:39:39,840 --> 00:39:42,480
Speaker 1: guys back to back days. He had short, he was

765
00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:45,080
Speaker 1: bullpen was short, and like Logan van why I never

766
00:39:45,080 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: saw the field force Whitley kind of today, Like Taylor

767
00:39:49,320 --> 00:39:51,520
Speaker 1: Scott went out there and threw in the seventh inning

768
00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:54,880
Speaker 1: today after throwing two innings on Saturday, and Taylor Scott

769
00:39:54,920 --> 00:39:57,480
Speaker 1: got a tie game today instead of you know, force Whitley.

770
00:39:57,520 --> 00:39:59,520
Speaker 1: So I'm not saying it was a Force Whitley thing.

771
00:39:59,520 --> 00:40:01,279
Speaker 1: I just think that's something we've seen from Joe that,

772
00:40:01,680 --> 00:40:05,799
Speaker 1: you know, in close games, he does prefer guys with

773
00:40:06,080 --> 00:40:09,080
Speaker 1: a track record, guys you know, maybe not making their

774
00:40:09,080 --> 00:40:12,319
Speaker 1: major league debuts, or guys maybe not Whereas you see

775
00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,359
Speaker 1: other managers like you know what, like if he's here,

776
00:40:14,360 --> 00:40:16,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pitch him, if he's on my roster on

777
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:18,320
Speaker 1: pitching him, I think Joe does a little bit different.

778
00:40:19,960 --> 00:40:24,080
Speaker 2: I don't think that it matters a ton, honestly. I mean,

779
00:40:24,120 --> 00:40:27,200
Speaker 2: I think you could random number generate who you wanted

780
00:40:27,239 --> 00:40:28,919
Speaker 2: to come out of the bullpen most of the time,

781
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 2: and it would be but you still have to get

782
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:35,200
Speaker 2: that many outs no matter what, So I don't think

783
00:40:35,200 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 2: it matters a ton. But yeah, that I don't know

784
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:41,239
Speaker 2: if that's his thing, that's what. But I certainly would

785
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:46,400
Speaker 2: have rather seen Ors Whitley today than than Taylor Scott.

786
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,000
Speaker 2: But hopefully we see him soon. Man, I'm pumped for him.

787
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,200
Speaker 2: I really hope he can come in and and have

788
00:40:52,280 --> 00:40:56,440
Speaker 2: a good year, not only as someone who watches the Ashers,

789
00:40:56,480 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: but for him, like I, he is a guy that

790
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,719
Speaker 2: I really want to have a good year. He's been

791
00:41:01,760 --> 00:41:02,239
Speaker 2: through a ton.

792
00:41:02,840 --> 00:41:04,759
Speaker 1: Yeah, if he runs out to God It's gonna cut

793
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,160
Speaker 1: you down, then it'll be a very exit to see

794
00:41:07,160 --> 00:41:09,600
Speaker 1: fifty five running out to God's going to cut you down?

795
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:13,440
Speaker 1: Which blue Jay? Which astro turn blue Jay are you

796
00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,240
Speaker 1: most excited to see this week?

797
00:41:15,600 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: Well, the cowards took away Joey Loperfido from us, didn't they.

798
00:41:19,440 --> 00:41:22,880
Speaker 1: Joey Librafdo, who was like the greatest baseball player ever invented?

799
00:41:22,920 --> 00:41:25,200
Speaker 1: When they trade When when they traded him, I was

800
00:41:25,239 --> 00:41:26,640
Speaker 1: told that this was going to be the death of

801
00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: the franchise. They traded Joey lo berfdo.

802
00:41:29,800 --> 00:41:32,880
Speaker 2: It's very rude that they took him away. I mean,

803
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 2: it's obviously George Springer. I'm excited every time I see

804
00:41:35,680 --> 00:41:40,040
Speaker 2: George Springer. I can't wait. He's He's so much fun.

805
00:41:41,120 --> 00:41:44,480
Speaker 2: But do you think James Click is at the park?

806
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,200
Speaker 2: Do you think he comes? He still lives in Houston,

807
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:48,719
Speaker 2: so I know that's what I'm saying. Do you think

808
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:49,360
Speaker 2: he comes?

809
00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, he may show up. He can blend in pretty easily.

810
00:41:52,080 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: Come on the pod, James, what's just a normal guy.

811
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:57,560
Speaker 1: I'm going to assume James doesn't listen to this, and

812
00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,359
Speaker 1: if he does, I'm gonna assume he doesn't get forty

813
00:41:59,360 --> 00:42:02,920
Speaker 1: two minutes in. Sorry about Duke James, if you are listening,

814
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: huge duke basketball fan, huge du basketball fan, So he

815
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: could not have enjoyed the NCAA tournament. But you know,

816
00:42:11,360 --> 00:42:14,200
Speaker 1: t Shirt, I'm looking forward to seeing Miles Straw. Miles Straw,

817
00:42:14,360 --> 00:42:20,279
Speaker 1: great dude, quirky guy, very fast, got them the iddeas

818
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: So look, we can all connect all dots. So we

819
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:25,880
Speaker 1: will see Miles Straw, we will see George Springer, we

820
00:42:25,920 --> 00:42:30,040
Speaker 1: will see Jimmy Garcia, we will see Will Wagner. Who knows.

821
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,960
Speaker 1: We can see Jake Bloss if someone gets hurt, We'll

822
00:42:31,960 --> 00:42:34,879
Speaker 1: see them all at Dyke and Park this week, as

823
00:42:34,880 --> 00:42:37,040
Speaker 1: the Astros take on the Blue Jays in a three

824
00:42:37,040 --> 00:42:39,960
Speaker 1: game set. Hunter Brown will pitch on Monday Night, which

825
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,479
Speaker 1: has become appointment television, So tune in to watch Hunter

826
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:47,319
Speaker 1: Brown throw ninety nine by a bunch of unsuspecting Canadians

827
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:51,319
Speaker 1: and who knows, maybe he will. We will get them

828
00:42:51,719 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 1: off on the right foot and make up for Sunday's loss.

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Speaker 1: We will be back with you this week talking ashers

830
00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:01,440
Speaker 1: Blue Jays, talking some different stuff, maybe even a player,

831
00:43:01,560 --> 00:43:04,920
Speaker 1: Maybe even a player appearance on Krush City Territory this week.

832
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:07,719
Speaker 1: Who knows. You have to stay tuned. You can rate

833
00:43:07,760 --> 00:43:10,360
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834
00:43:10,360 --> 00:43:12,239
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835
00:43:12,280 --> 00:43:15,480
Speaker 1: time we post a new podcast. So we'll be back

836
00:43:15,520 --> 00:43:18,400
Speaker 1: this week. We appreciate you guys, watching, following, and listening,

837
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Speaker 1: and we'll talk to you soon.

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Speaker 2: Bye.