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Speaker 1: Welcome board to a very special edition of Human Events Daily. Today,

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Speaker 1: we are going to be rerunning our discussion recorded last

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Speaker 1: year with doctor Taylor Marshall, entitled The True Story of Halloween,

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Speaker 1: The Occult and the Apocalypse.

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Speaker 2: We put this.

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Speaker 1: Together last year to provide the truth about the Christian

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Speaker 1: origins of Halloween and debunk a lot of the rumors

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Speaker 1: and myths and hoaxes that could spread this time of

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Speaker 1: year that Halloween was. So I'm kind of pagan satanicy.

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Speaker 1: That doesn't mean that Satanism isn't real, and that doesn't

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Speaker 1: mean that the demonic isn't real, but we have to

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Speaker 1: So I'm very proud to present to you Human Events

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Speaker 1: Halloween Special, The True Story of Halloween, The Occult and

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Speaker 1: the Apocalypse Doctor Taylor Marshall. Every year at Halloween or

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Speaker 1: hallow Tide, all hallow tied. If you're Catholic like me,

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Speaker 1: you get this sort of response from the internet every

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Speaker 1: Adam's family last year. We're doing not going to tell

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Speaker 1: at work making the kids' costumes and it's going to

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Speaker 1: be great. My mother of course also helping out making

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Speaker 1: so many of the costumes. But what I wanted to

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Speaker 1: do was explain the true history of Halloween, get into this.

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Speaker 1: Is it a Christian holiday? Is it a pagan holiday?

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Speaker 1: Is a Satan's holiday?

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Speaker 3: What is it?

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Speaker 1: And I thought, who better than to talk about this

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Speaker 1: to the occult, into paganism, exorcisms, all of these different things.

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Speaker 1: The author of the new book Antichrist and Apocalypse, my

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Speaker 1: good friend, doctor Taylor Marshall. Doc Taylor Marshall, welcome to

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Speaker 1: the program. Hey, great to be here. This is going

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Speaker 1: to be a good show. It's good topic. So right

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Speaker 1: off the bat, answer the question right is is Halloween?

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Speaker 1: We're told every time I tweet about this, I get

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Speaker 1: a comment, this was just a pagan holiday.

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Speaker 2: It was this Irish thing. It was sam Hayne or Soween.

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Speaker 2: However they saying it.

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Speaker 1: You just stole it and you convert it to Christianity,

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Speaker 2: And that's what Halloween is. Is that true?

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Speaker 3: Well, it's a little more complicated than that. I mean,

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Speaker 3: of a holy day of all Hallows or all Saints,

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Speaker 3: remember all the saints. And Hallow Halloween is is literally

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Speaker 3: What does Hallow mean? Well, if you say the Lord's prayer,

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Speaker 1: And they teach and that you still do it right

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Speaker 3: All Saints Day. Now. Originally it was commemorated the first

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Speaker 3: november the first as the feast day Of All, saints

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Speaker 3: and the eve of that is of Course october thirty.

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Speaker 3: this harvest idea kind of was more, appropriate you, know

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Speaker 1: Which then of course is also followed By All Souls,

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Speaker 3: Me so this is pretty. Interesting so as you as you,

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Speaker 1: right so this is A halloween, tide.

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Speaker 3: Right Halloween Hallo's Day november, first and then All souls

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Speaker 3: so that so All saints is everybody in, heaven all.

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Speaker 1: Secularists it's used By satanists and occultists to, say, aha

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Speaker 1: Talk about that a little, bit so we're you, KNOW

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Speaker 2: In Eastern.

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Speaker 1: EUROPE i don't know if you know, this but In,

432
00:22:21,800 --> 00:22:25,320
Speaker 1: poland All Saints day and All Souls day are, massive

433
00:22:25,720 --> 00:22:29,440
Speaker 1: just absolutely, massive and All Souls day what The poles will.

434
00:22:29,480 --> 00:22:32,760
Speaker 1: Do and you would see this In ukraine as, well

435
00:22:32,760 --> 00:22:35,960
Speaker 1: probably not you know this, year obviously they might be,

436
00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,360
Speaker 1: harder BUT i ACTUALLY i take that. BACK i guarantee

437
00:22:38,440 --> 00:22:41,879
Speaker 1: you will see this On november two In, ukraine even

438
00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 1: in wartime that for the in Western, ukraine you still

439
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:46,919
Speaker 1: have a lot Of. Catholics they go to the they

440
00:22:46,920 --> 00:22:50,200
Speaker 1: will go to the, ceremony the, cemeteries and it's candles

441
00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:53,600
Speaker 1: and it's flowers for your, family for your. Ancestors and

442
00:22:53,640 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 1: there's sort of this idea that if you're if you're

443
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:59,399
Speaker 1: not taking care of the graves of your, ancestors that

444
00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,120
Speaker 1: you're you're, like it's it's it's a, shame, Right it's

445
00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:04,639
Speaker 1: it's a personal, shame it's a familial shame that you

446
00:23:04,720 --> 00:23:06,600
Speaker 1: are not because the idea being that you have to

447
00:23:06,640 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: honor your, ancestors, which by the, way last TIME i,

448
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,520
Speaker 1: checked that wasn't a, recommendation that wasn't a suggestion From.

449
00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:12,960
Speaker 2: God honoring your your.

450
00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:16,399
Speaker 1: Answer that's a, commitment, Right that's a, commandment and this

451
00:23:16,520 --> 00:23:19,080
Speaker 1: idea that and then of course that hopefully someone will

452
00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: do that for you at some.

453
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:23,800
Speaker 3: Point that's. Excute AND i, think you, know people who

454
00:23:23,800 --> 00:23:26,200
Speaker 3: Aren't catholic get. That they're, like why don't you just Worship,

455
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:28,399
Speaker 3: god you, know keep, it keep it focused On, Jesus

456
00:23:28,480 --> 00:23:31,680
Speaker 3: and we. Do and we have a distinction In. Catholicism

457
00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 3: we have This greek term called dulia and then another

458
00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:41,040
Speaker 3: term called, latria and dulia is what we give to. Humans,

459
00:23:41,640 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 3: uh you can, say you can give it to The american,

460
00:23:43,800 --> 00:23:48,680
Speaker 3: flag the, cross like we show respect and. Honor weiteration

461
00:23:49,040 --> 00:23:51,520
Speaker 3: is not. Worse, yeah it's a. Veneration it's not a it's.

462
00:23:51,560 --> 00:23:54,959
Speaker 3: Not and then the other term latria In greek is

463
00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:58,439
Speaker 3: to is For god. Alone so only The, father The,

464
00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:01,560
Speaker 3: son and The Holy ghost get lack the true adoration

465
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:05,960
Speaker 3: of worship As, god and then the saints get our

466
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:10,200
Speaker 3: our julia like you would, respect you, know in a,

467
00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:15,119
Speaker 3: monarchy a. Monarch, well we should even respect our. President you,

468
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:17,159
Speaker 3: know we're not thrilled with who he, is BUT i

469
00:24:17,160 --> 00:24:20,040
Speaker 3: mean we show you, know you like you or the

470
00:24:20,080 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 3: navy you, salute you salute the branch, uniform you, know

471
00:24:23,720 --> 00:24:26,800
Speaker 3: and that like someone can't come, like why are you

472
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,879
Speaker 3: worshiping that general or that? Right?

473
00:24:29,960 --> 00:24:31,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, no or why are.

474
00:24:31,280 --> 00:24:33,399
Speaker 3: You worshiping the? Flag, Well i'm honoring the.

475
00:24:33,960 --> 00:24:36,679
Speaker 1: Customer it's actually called customs and. Duties it's considered a.

476
00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,760
Speaker 3: Duty, yes. Exactly and and we believe that we have

477
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:47,600
Speaker 3: a duty that we should honor those who were exemplars

478
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,960
Speaker 3: in Following Jesus, christ you, Know Saint Mary, Magdalene Saint,

479
00:24:52,040 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 3: Paul Saint, luke you, know, uh and all the way

480
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 3: into our own, Time Saint theres De, las all these

481
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:00,879
Speaker 3: great saints who in maybe they were martyrs and or

482
00:25:00,920 --> 00:25:04,040
Speaker 3: maybe they were just in their quiet way through suffering or,

483
00:25:04,080 --> 00:25:06,520
Speaker 3: illness they carried the cross Of.

484
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,040
Speaker 1: JESUS i want to ask you another, question a serious,

485
00:25:09,080 --> 00:25:10,040
Speaker 1: question maybe a spooky.

486
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:11,880
Speaker 2: Question are demons?

487
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:16,959
Speaker 1: Real are these, spirits these, ghosts these, ghouls these, goblins

488
00:25:17,359 --> 00:25:20,080
Speaker 1: this spiritual world that we're called to believe? In WHEN

489
00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,399
Speaker 1: i watch a movie Like The exorcist or a series

490
00:25:22,440 --> 00:25:26,320
Speaker 1: Like The. Conjuring they talk about things like. This WHEN

491
00:25:26,359 --> 00:25:29,360
Speaker 1: i read The, Bible WHEN i read The, Gospel christ performs,

492
00:25:29,560 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 1: exorcisms including transporting you, know demons Like legion into.

493
00:25:35,240 --> 00:25:38,080
Speaker 2: A herd of. Pigs at one point they fall off the.

494
00:25:38,080 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 1: Cliff they run off the, cliff and so AM i

495
00:25:40,760 --> 00:25:43,480
Speaker 1: supposed to just overlook those? Things AM i supposed to

496
00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,199
Speaker 1: think that these are just, well you, know that was

497
00:25:45,240 --> 00:25:48,320
Speaker 1: just an early form of mental, illness and you know

498
00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:50,720
Speaker 1: he was just he was curing them through a form

499
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,919
Speaker 1: of you, know celestial therapy or.

500
00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:55,719
Speaker 2: Something or are these things? Real and should we as

501
00:25:55,760 --> 00:25:56,600
Speaker 2: believers take these?

502
00:25:56,640 --> 00:26:00,600
Speaker 3: Seriously they're most certainly. Real so if you read The,

503
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:04,040
Speaker 3: Bible old And Nude, testament there are fallen angels and

504
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:08,040
Speaker 3: that's what a demon. Is so we As christians believe

505
00:26:08,119 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 3: that before our, world our human, world was, created That

506
00:26:12,680 --> 00:26:15,359
Speaker 3: god made the angelic world and he gave them a

507
00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,080
Speaker 3: Test and there's some speculation of what that, is AND

508
00:26:18,119 --> 00:26:20,439
Speaker 3: i talk about that in my, book but basically what

509
00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,440
Speaker 3: happened Is satan, said non, SERVIAN i will not, SERVE

510
00:26:24,560 --> 00:26:28,240
Speaker 3: i will not, serve and he. Fell there was another

511
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,200
Speaker 3: angel in our, tradition who, said who is Like? God

512
00:26:31,240 --> 00:26:33,920
Speaker 3: And hebrew mika l who is Like? God and Mika

513
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:38,199
Speaker 3: l as Micah L, Michael Saint michael The. Archangel and

514
00:26:38,280 --> 00:26:40,280
Speaker 3: so he asked that, question, like who can Be? God you?

515
00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:42,359
Speaker 3: Know you Can't. Satan you can't Be, god you. Know

516
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:45,280
Speaker 3: and So satan was kicked. Out about a third of

517
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:49,520
Speaker 3: the angels fell And satan and those third of angels became.

518
00:26:50,200 --> 00:26:54,359
Speaker 3: Demons they became dark. Angels and ever since then they've

519
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:59,560
Speaker 3: been wanting to thwart and bother and bring us To

520
00:27:00,200 --> 00:27:02,119
Speaker 3: and you see that in the opening of The, Bible

521
00:27:02,440 --> 00:27:05,639
Speaker 3: adam And, eve, Right satan comes and he starts talking To.

522
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:08,240
Speaker 3: Eve and in The book Of, job you See satan

523
00:27:08,280 --> 00:27:09,800
Speaker 3: comes Before god and, says you, KNOW i want to

524
00:27:09,840 --> 00:27:12,399
Speaker 3: go After. Job he's so. Holy he thinks he's so

525
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,200
Speaker 3: righteous because he has such a great. Life when we

526
00:27:14,240 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 3: start taking things away from, him and he will curse You,

527
00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,480
Speaker 3: god And god, says, No he's a just. Man and

528
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 3: he Allows satan to start tempting and taking things away From.

529
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:28,040
Speaker 3: Job and for some, reason In god's, Providence he's decided

530
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 3: to allow these fallen angels to remain around us to

531
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 3: influence us for us to fight. Against we call it spiritual.

532
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,879
Speaker 3: Warfare and we have to prepare for that to be

533
00:27:38,960 --> 00:27:40,639
Speaker 3: in a state of, grace you, know have to have the,

534
00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: sacraments read The bible with holy, lives help the, poor,

535
00:27:44,480 --> 00:27:47,520
Speaker 3: alms all these. Things and so the demons are. Real

536
00:27:47,600 --> 00:27:50,160
Speaker 3: and then we find in The bible that not only

537
00:27:50,200 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 3: can the demons influence, us they can tempt. Us Remember

538
00:27:54,560 --> 00:27:55,919
Speaker 3: satan tempted Even Jesus.

539
00:27:56,040 --> 00:27:59,160
Speaker 2: Christ and even the devil can quote, scripture.

540
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:02,680
Speaker 3: He can old. Scripture these demons are smart.

541
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:06,360
Speaker 1: Because there's also this. Idea, right so if you're if

542
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,239
Speaker 1: you're a demon or you know they're fallen angel and

543
00:28:09,280 --> 00:28:10,679
Speaker 1: you want to you want to wage war On.

544
00:28:10,760 --> 00:28:13,919
Speaker 2: God you want to Attack. God, well you can't Attack

545
00:28:14,000 --> 00:28:14,800
Speaker 2: god head on.

546
00:28:14,960 --> 00:28:17,520
Speaker 3: Right maybe it's already lost on that one will be.

547
00:28:17,560 --> 00:28:20,240
Speaker 2: Obliterated you're. Done there's nothing you could. Do but here's

548
00:28:20,240 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 2: what you could. Do what you could do.

549
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:30,439
Speaker 1: Is Find god's, creatures Find god's, believers Find god's, flock

550
00:28:30,880 --> 00:28:33,720
Speaker 1: and you could go and you could target, them and

551
00:28:33,760 --> 00:28:36,200
Speaker 1: you can target them and take them away From god

552
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,160
Speaker 1: because you can see That god is working with them

553
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:41,320
Speaker 1: And god wants them to come closer to, him Because

554
00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,760
Speaker 1: god wants them to attain, heaven and so you can

555
00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:47,400
Speaker 1: go and then try and work to thwart his. Plans

556
00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,440
Speaker 1: and so they, say you, know they say every you,

557
00:28:51,480 --> 00:28:54,800
Speaker 1: know every challenge in every every time we're faced with

558
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,840
Speaker 1: something like it's also that perennial, question why do bad things?

559
00:28:57,880 --> 00:29:00,000
Speaker 2: Happen? Right and you, say, well every you, know every

560
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:01,000
Speaker 2: suffering is a chance for.

561
00:29:01,080 --> 00:29:04,040
Speaker 1: Repentance and that's. Tough that's a very tough. LESSON i

562
00:29:04,040 --> 00:29:06,760
Speaker 1: struggle with that. LESSON i struggle with that. Lesson that's,

563
00:29:06,760 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: teaching but it it is something THAT i just say

564
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:09,760
Speaker 1: in my.

565
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,280
Speaker 2: Head over and, over every, struggle every suffering is a

566
00:29:12,360 --> 00:29:12,560
Speaker 2: chance for.

567
00:29:12,640 --> 00:29:17,880
Speaker 3: Repentance. Yeah, yeah every setback is a setup and for

568
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 3: some Reason god's allowed. That and people when they get,

569
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:25,880
Speaker 3: possessed there's two. REASONS i just interviewed an exorcist, yesterday

570
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:29,000
Speaker 3: a real, exorcist father chap Over duran WE i, asked

571
00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:32,640
Speaker 3: how do people get it? Possessed what's? Happened the main

572
00:29:32,720 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 3: way people get possessed is they go looking for. It

573
00:29:36,360 --> 00:29:40,040
Speaker 3: they get invitation. Involved, yeah they they, well you can

574
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:42,080
Speaker 3: make a pact with the, devil which is not he,

575
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 3: says not actually a pact or a deal with the,

576
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:47,200
Speaker 3: devil because the devil has no illegal rights because he's

577
00:29:47,200 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 3: already a defeated. Foe so his covenants and his his you,

578
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:54,880
Speaker 3: know contracts are, void but people who make these with

579
00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,480
Speaker 3: them enter into partnerships with, him or you, know you

580
00:29:57,520 --> 00:30:00,360
Speaker 3: can do that explicit where you just SAY i want

581
00:30:00,360 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 3: to make a deal with You. Satan or they get

582
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:13,400
Speaker 3: involved in extremely sinful or demonic behavior, witchcraft, seances ouiji,

583
00:30:13,520 --> 00:30:18,440
Speaker 3: boards you, know some of these dark, arts dark, magic

584
00:30:18,880 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 3: these kind of, things, paganism pagan, rituals sexual, rituals or

585
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:34,800
Speaker 3: really really criminal, activity mass, murdering you, know these really,

586
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,040
Speaker 3: rapes child, rapes all these kind of. Things these invite

587
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:42,520
Speaker 3: the demons into. Us and the extrasis say that the,

588
00:30:42,600 --> 00:30:46,560
Speaker 3: demon when you're, possessed he's not in your. Soul demon

589
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 3: can't get in your. Soul demons are actually in your.

590
00:30:48,880 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: Bodies and when you read the accounts Of jesus exercising,

591
00:30:53,400 --> 00:30:55,400
Speaker 3: people you see that the demons are in their, bodies

592
00:30:55,440 --> 00:30:57,760
Speaker 3: not in their. Souls so that's the main reason why

593
00:30:57,760 --> 00:31:01,040
Speaker 3: people get, possessed is they open themselves up to the.

594
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,960
Speaker 3: Satanic so if someone, says, hey let's do a seance or,

595
00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 3: hey let's get The ouiji board, out or let's do.

596
00:31:07,000 --> 00:31:09,400
Speaker 3: It you just run as far as you can from,

597
00:31:09,400 --> 00:31:11,600
Speaker 3: that because if you want, demons that's how you get. Demons,

598
00:31:12,040 --> 00:31:12,960
Speaker 3: now by the, way.

599
00:31:12,920 --> 00:31:15,120
Speaker 1: That's kind of that you know on that it's it's

600
00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 1: not it's not what is, it you, KNOW i don't

601
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 1: know what it makes it The ouiji, Boards Fisher price or.

602
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:21,920
Speaker 1: Whatever it's not like the company's making a satanic. Instrument

603
00:31:22,000 --> 00:31:25,080
Speaker 1: it's what you're doing with it that becomes. Satanic it's

604
00:31:25,080 --> 00:31:26,600
Speaker 1: not like you go to the store and it's and

605
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:28,280
Speaker 1: It's satanis that being. Said you can go to a

606
00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:31,840
Speaker 1: Spirit halloween and find all sorts of occult paraphernalia there

607
00:31:32,080 --> 00:31:34,280
Speaker 1: just right on the, shelf right on the. Shelf they

608
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:36,840
Speaker 1: have a little section for. It and the point is

609
00:31:37,080 --> 00:31:39,320
Speaker 1: it's not that stuff doesn't come into your home and

610
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,240
Speaker 1: make you. Satanic but what it does is it opens

611
00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:44,040
Speaker 1: Your you're opening yourself up to.

612
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:45,160
Speaker 2: It you're opening up that.

613
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 1: World you're, out you're inviting it, In you're giving you're

614
00:31:48,120 --> 00:31:48,760
Speaker 1: giving it.

615
00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:51,080
Speaker 2: License right you talked about legal.

616
00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: Rights you're giving it, license giving satan, license or some

617
00:31:54,280 --> 00:31:56,800
Speaker 1: of the lesser demons license to be able to come

618
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:01,200
Speaker 1: and then partake, right partake of your, life of your.

619
00:32:01,240 --> 00:32:03,680
Speaker 1: Corpus your spirit is still, there and you do see

620
00:32:03,680 --> 00:32:06,719
Speaker 1: this in like you, said some of these you, know

621
00:32:06,760 --> 00:32:09,320
Speaker 1: even the Original exorcist, movie there's this idea of the

622
00:32:09,360 --> 00:32:12,720
Speaker 1: struggle within the young girl that she's, which by the,

623
00:32:12,720 --> 00:32:14,440
Speaker 1: way people don't realize that's based on a true.

624
00:32:14,440 --> 00:32:15,760
Speaker 2: Story you.

625
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:18,280
Speaker 1: Know some of the more theatrical elements were. Added, sure

626
00:32:18,600 --> 00:32:20,720
Speaker 1: walking on the ceiling and, all but the you, know

627
00:32:20,760 --> 00:32:26,800
Speaker 1: speaking in tongues and the, lesions and knowing information about

628
00:32:26,800 --> 00:32:29,000
Speaker 1: the people that she's talking to that you, know you

629
00:32:29,000 --> 00:32:33,040
Speaker 1: couldn't possibly. Know Saying i'm here speaking with your, mother

630
00:32:33,200 --> 00:32:36,440
Speaker 1: knowing the mother's names, speak all of that goes.

631
00:32:36,480 --> 00:32:40,480
Speaker 3: Back sometimes they Speak, Latin, Greek, hebrew ancient languages that

632
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:43,640
Speaker 3: a person wouldn't normally, know and that's those are the

633
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 3: kind of preternatural signs that's, like, okay there's something in this.

634
00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:50,520
Speaker 3: Person so when you do this a cold, stuff you're

635
00:32:50,520 --> 00:32:53,440
Speaker 3: doing something spiritual and you're not doing it With god

636
00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:56,040
Speaker 3: and his angel, as you're doing it with the, underworld

637
00:32:56,400 --> 00:32:58,240
Speaker 3: and that opens you up and it's really. Bad but

638
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,640
Speaker 3: the other way you can be possessed and this is

639
00:33:00,760 --> 00:33:04,760
Speaker 3: kind of scary to think. About is sometimes extremely holy,

640
00:33:04,880 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 3: People god allows demons to come into their lives and

641
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:15,160
Speaker 3: they're usually, well almost always. Victorious and the exorcist yesterday

642
00:33:15,200 --> 00:33:18,280
Speaker 3: told me a story of a very holy nun who

643
00:33:18,320 --> 00:33:21,040
Speaker 3: is IN i think In, bavaria one of the holiest

644
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 3: nuns in the, region and she was possessed and the

645
00:33:24,440 --> 00:33:28,920
Speaker 3: exorcist came and she said that it was revealed that

646
00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:32,440
Speaker 3: because of a sin that had taken root in the,

647
00:33:32,480 --> 00:33:35,200
Speaker 3: Area god had allowed this sign to happen to get everybody's,

648
00:33:35,240 --> 00:33:37,880
Speaker 3: attention and he, said what is the? Sin and he, says.

649
00:33:37,960 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 3: Divorce people are turning to. Divorce and so once they knew,

650
00:33:41,760 --> 00:33:44,000
Speaker 3: that he did the exorcism and the demon came right,

651
00:33:44,040 --> 00:33:47,040
Speaker 3: out and then the numb was, fine like the supernatural

652
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,800
Speaker 3: thing That god. Wanted so sometimes you can be very

653
00:33:50,800 --> 00:33:53,440
Speaker 3: holy not do anything, wicked just like in the story

654
00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:56,360
Speaker 3: Of job and The, bible he was a very holy.

655
00:33:56,440 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 3: Man there's no rules For.

656
00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: God If god decides to, something it's you know he's In.

657
00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 3: Yeah but but he, said almost every single time you're

658
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 3: doing with someone who's, Possessed, uh there is some sort

659
00:34:09,360 --> 00:34:15,800
Speaker 3: of magical dark art wicked occult practice that has happened

660
00:34:16,560 --> 00:34:20,719
Speaker 3: that's usually traumatic to a, person and they always they

661
00:34:20,760 --> 00:34:23,200
Speaker 3: always do a triage to make sure you, know this

662
00:34:23,320 --> 00:34:26,160
Speaker 3: is not some kind of mental, illness and they want

663
00:34:26,200 --> 00:34:30,719
Speaker 3: to confirm that there's something preter, natural spiritual in this

664
00:34:30,880 --> 00:34:35,279
Speaker 3: person that's not just. Psychological and once they like that

665
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 3: and get, approval they do an. Extorcism and an extorcism

666
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:39,040
Speaker 3: is no, joke.

667
00:34:40,280 --> 00:34:43,000
Speaker 1: Right and and by the, way there's there's no you're

668
00:34:43,680 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 1: sanctioned extorcisms are done by, priests, right there's no there's

669
00:34:46,920 --> 00:34:49,560
Speaker 1: no lay. EXORCISMS i, mean you can pray for the,

670
00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:53,359
Speaker 1: person and you can you can hold whatever you want

671
00:34:53,400 --> 00:34:54,920
Speaker 1: to do pray, there and you should you should be

672
00:34:54,920 --> 00:34:57,360
Speaker 1: praying for the person, obviously but you, know the idea

673
00:34:57,400 --> 00:34:59,200
Speaker 1: that you're going to be performing this, OUTSIDE i, mean

674
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:02,080
Speaker 1: that's like it's like, saying you, know you're you're you're

675
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 1: a member of The lady and you're going to go

676
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:08,200
Speaker 1: perform open heart surgery on. Somebody it's probably not exactly.

677
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 3: Or i'm you, know you're just a lay person And

678
00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:12,840
Speaker 3: i'm going to go like do a sealed team six

679
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:15,680
Speaker 3: up on my by. Myself it's just not you're not

680
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:18,440
Speaker 3: trained for, that, right and there's a lot that goes into. It,

681
00:35:18,760 --> 00:35:20,239
Speaker 3: uh you, know rituals and.

682
00:35:20,320 --> 00:35:22,600
Speaker 2: Preparation you you open yourself up.

683
00:35:22,600 --> 00:35:27,040
Speaker 3: Too but they, say if if if a lay person

684
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: or someone even a priest who's not an. Exorcist let

685
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:32,840
Speaker 3: me emphasize, this even a priest who's not an extrescist

686
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:36,080
Speaker 3: who tries to do, one he can get retribution and

687
00:35:36,120 --> 00:35:38,680
Speaker 3: have and have demons come into his. Life so you

688
00:35:38,760 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: have to be, properly you, know, appointed certified in order

689
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:45,440
Speaker 3: to do.

690
00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,040
Speaker 2: It you can take you a little bit in the into.

691
00:35:48,040 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 1: This i've read a lot of the work of father Am,

692
00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:53,440
Speaker 1: worth watched his videos quite a.

693
00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:55,960
Speaker 2: Bit he so he was The vaticans.

694
00:35:56,040 --> 00:35:59,400
Speaker 1: Exorcist he was someone who's been very public about this

695
00:35:59,440 --> 00:36:01,799
Speaker 1: and at one point he actually made a video and

696
00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:03,560
Speaker 1: we're seeing the break that you have actually seen this,

697
00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:04,920
Speaker 1: Yet so you got to go watch this now when

698
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:07,920
Speaker 1: you're done. That he allowed the director of the Original

699
00:36:07,960 --> 00:36:13,480
Speaker 1: exorcist movie to actually film and exorcism In italy that

700
00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:13,880
Speaker 1: he was.

701
00:36:13,920 --> 00:36:16,000
Speaker 2: Performing it was.

702
00:36:16,120 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 1: This This italian to, mother young, mother and you hear

703
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:22,640
Speaker 1: the speaking in, tongues you see the.

704
00:36:24,120 --> 00:36:25,719
Speaker 2: Sort of contortions that the.

705
00:36:25,640 --> 00:36:29,040
Speaker 1: Body is doing and you you're able to watch this

706
00:36:29,120 --> 00:36:31,640
Speaker 1: and it's just, him it's the, director some members of her,

707
00:36:31,640 --> 00:36:34,640
Speaker 1: family no camera, crew just, him single camera in the.

708
00:36:34,719 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 2: Room they show the entire.

709
00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,960
Speaker 3: Thing. Wow, Yeah i've never been the, one But I've i've,

710
00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 3: Heard i've spoken to extorcist priests who have done, them

711
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,560
Speaker 3: and and it's not just like you come in and

712
00:36:46,920 --> 00:36:49,239
Speaker 3: five minutes it's, over like these can go on for.

713
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,239
Speaker 1: Months, actually, well it's that's. Right it's it's it's a

714
00:36:52,440 --> 00:36:54,520
Speaker 1: very long. Process it's not like you see in the.

715
00:36:54,560 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Movies it's you, know you don't just go in once

716
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,440
Speaker 1: and then it's. Done it's it's multiple times because at

717
00:36:59,480 --> 00:37:02,120
Speaker 1: the end of the, day and correct me IF i

718
00:37:02,120 --> 00:37:03,439
Speaker 1: have this. Wrong and we're coming up on a break.

719
00:37:03,480 --> 00:37:03,799
Speaker 3: Here but.

720
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:10,879
Speaker 1: It's not just that you're performing the exorcism because that

721
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:13,680
Speaker 1: person has been. Possessed god has allowed them to be,

722
00:37:13,719 --> 00:37:19,120
Speaker 1: possessed and that person has to repent for that which

723
00:37:19,480 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: they that sin they committed, there whatever they let, in

724
00:37:22,440 --> 00:37:26,080
Speaker 1: they have to repent for their, actions and then the

725
00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:27,399
Speaker 1: exorcism will begin to take.

726
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:31,359
Speaker 3: Place, yeah the person needs to be right With. God

727
00:37:31,400 --> 00:37:34,759
Speaker 3: and the EXERCISE i spoke to yesterday, says, look you have.

728
00:37:34,880 --> 00:37:38,160
Speaker 3: To he gives him a whole list of things they

729
00:37:38,160 --> 00:37:40,479
Speaker 3: need to do before he'll even begin the, exorcisms because

730
00:37:40,480 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 3: they've got to be spiritually.

731
00:37:41,560 --> 00:37:46,520
Speaker 1: Right we've been talking about The christian history Of, Halloween,

732
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,799
Speaker 1: yes The christian history before The pagans had anything to

733
00:37:49,840 --> 00:37:51,640
Speaker 1: do with, it which they never, did and before the

734
00:37:51,640 --> 00:37:54,600
Speaker 1: occultists tried to come in pervert, it take it, away

735
00:37:54,680 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 1: and steal, it as they do to all Things, christian you.

736
00:37:57,160 --> 00:38:00,000
Speaker 1: Know and, actually Doctor, marshall we were talking a little

737
00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:01,600
Speaker 1: but in the break AND i think we should say

738
00:38:01,600 --> 00:38:05,640
Speaker 1: this on air as, well, though that the original book Of, dracula,

739
00:38:05,760 --> 00:38:08,520
Speaker 1: right the original book Of, Dracula so we, said the

740
00:38:08,560 --> 00:38:11,200
Speaker 1: Movie The exorcist obviously has a lot Of catholic, motifs

741
00:38:11,440 --> 00:38:15,280
Speaker 1: but the original book Of, dracula it is so much

742
00:38:15,360 --> 00:38:19,560
Speaker 1: More christian based THAT i don't think people realize where

743
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:22,680
Speaker 1: essentially it. Is it is the family Of dracool has

744
00:38:22,760 --> 00:38:24,960
Speaker 1: made this deal with the, devil just like you were talking,

745
00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:27,560
Speaker 1: about and the idea is that he's been possessed By.

746
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:31,280
Speaker 1: Satan he has to drink the blood of the living

747
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:35,400
Speaker 1: in a perversion of drinking the blood of the eternal,

748
00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:38,719
Speaker 1: right so it keeps him undead as opposed to dead

749
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:41,200
Speaker 1: and then achieving, patheosis coming to.

750
00:38:41,280 --> 00:38:43,520
Speaker 2: Heaven and then.

751
00:38:45,200 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: This this sense that this is also why you, know

752
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,200
Speaker 1: crucifixes In Holy water are things that warred him. Off

753
00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,600
Speaker 1: so some of it has translated into the, movies but not.

754
00:38:52,680 --> 00:38:57,120
Speaker 3: Quite, YEAH i, mean it's perfect segue into The book

755
00:38:57,160 --> 00:38:59,600
Speaker 3: Of revelation The apocalypse because in The book Of, Revelation

756
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:04,080
Speaker 3: satan is called the, dragon and In greek It's, draco

757
00:39:04,160 --> 00:39:07,160
Speaker 3: and In Latin draco where you Get, Dracula dracula means little.

758
00:39:07,239 --> 00:39:12,000
Speaker 3: Dragon so we're, literally you, Know dracula is the little,

759
00:39:12,080 --> 00:39:15,399
Speaker 3: dragon the Little, satan because he's so given himself over

760
00:39:15,480 --> 00:39:17,759
Speaker 3: to the, devil and he's he's using all if you

761
00:39:17,840 --> 00:39:20,680
Speaker 3: read the, novel by the, way do yourself a favor

762
00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:24,399
Speaker 3: and read the Original Brams dracula. Novel it's, short it's.

763
00:39:24,440 --> 00:39:27,200
Speaker 3: GOOD i keep On amazon or wherever you want to get.

764
00:39:27,239 --> 00:39:29,480
Speaker 3: Books it's an excellent. Book and as you read, it

765
00:39:29,600 --> 00:39:32,719
Speaker 3: especially if you're A, catholic you'll see all This christian

766
00:39:32,920 --> 00:39:38,200
Speaker 3: sort of black, mirror you, know analogy that's towards the

767
00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 3: that's bent towards the, demonic that comes From Christian so

768
00:39:40,640 --> 00:39:44,319
Speaker 3: he's talking about, baptism he's talking The eucharistic language of

769
00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:47,320
Speaker 3: eating the flesh of the body and blood Of Jesus

770
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,560
Speaker 3: christ as in The Lord's, supper The. Eucharist all this

771
00:39:50,680 --> 00:39:56,600
Speaker 3: sort Of christian theology is inverted and perverted By, dracula

772
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: the Little Dragon satan, himself and he is possessed By.

773
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,080
Speaker 3: Satan as you read the, novel you begin to realize

774
00:40:03,080 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 3: that he's in need of an. Exorcism and what he's

775
00:40:06,160 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 3: doing is he's he's trying to have This eucharist on

776
00:40:09,640 --> 00:40:13,680
Speaker 3: other human. Beings he's eating off of them in order

777
00:40:13,719 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 3: to preserve his. Life and we know That jesus, says

778
00:40:16,719 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 3: unless you eat my flesh and drink my, blood you

779
00:40:19,040 --> 00:40:22,360
Speaker 3: have no life in. You that's the true gospel Of Jesus.

780
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:26,920
Speaker 3: Christ and Then dracula has completely subverted it in A satanic.

781
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:31,480
Speaker 3: Ritual so, yeah and even the whole idea of virgins

782
00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:35,359
Speaker 3: and consecrated virgins in relationship to nons and all these

783
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 3: things are going On.

784
00:40:36,120 --> 00:40:39,960
Speaker 1: Incula it's very obvious once you kind of just say

785
00:40:40,000 --> 00:40:42,520
Speaker 1: it to, somebody and then when you read the actual

786
00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:44,680
Speaker 1: novel you, realize, oh, well it was overt in the,

787
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,920
Speaker 1: novel and it's just been Through hollywood's lens that they've they've.

788
00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: Diluted all of.

789
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:51,799
Speaker 3: This takes, place of, course In, transylvania which is kind

790
00:40:51,840 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: Of romania ish, area with some kind of some Interesting

791
00:40:55,719 --> 00:41:03,280
Speaker 3: christian motifs in the background. There it kind of shows

792
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:08,680
Speaker 3: a perversion of what True christianity is and How christ

793
00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:12,040
Speaker 3: is our life and how we're Incorporated him and Consecrated

794
00:41:12,120 --> 00:41:14,840
Speaker 3: him and that's what gives us eternal. Life AND i,

795
00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 3: think you, know our culture now is kind of the same.

796
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:20,759
Speaker 3: Thing people pray on other people to perpetuate their lifestyle

797
00:41:20,840 --> 00:41:24,040
Speaker 3: or their, life and it's just it's it's totally it's very.

798
00:41:24,040 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 1: Sad and SO i, mean my final point on that is,

799
00:41:27,440 --> 00:41:30,000
Speaker 1: just you, know if you're going to Celebrate, halloween, celebrate you,

800
00:41:30,040 --> 00:41:32,560
Speaker 1: know have fun with your, kids go, out have a good,

801
00:41:32,600 --> 00:41:36,799
Speaker 1: time but also don't, forget don't forget the original part of, it,

802
00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Right don't forget the origin of, this the, martyrs The Holy,

803
00:41:41,000 --> 00:41:47,000
Speaker 1: martyrs The Holy. Saints understand the history and the true

804
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: rich tradition that you're actually taking part in by, celebrating

805
00:41:52,560 --> 00:41:54,520
Speaker 1: not Just. Halloween, Right so that's my. Point if you're

806
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,000
Speaker 1: going to sell About. Halloween don't just Celebrate, halloween but

807
00:41:57,080 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 1: also celebrate.

808
00:41:58,480 --> 00:41:59,839
Speaker 3: All, saints all.

809
00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,880
Speaker 2: Souls so now you're completing what's called the Hallow.

810
00:42:02,960 --> 00:42:06,799
Speaker 1: Tide but what was interesting is that you mentioned as, well,

811
00:42:06,840 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 1: though That All saints is that it's a holy day of,

812
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:14,440
Speaker 1: obligation high holy day For. Catholics but the reading On

813
00:42:15,200 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 1: All Saints' day is always from The book of The,

814
00:42:17,680 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 1: apocalypse also known as The book Of, Revelations, Right so

815
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:22,200
Speaker 1: what's the.

816
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 2: Why is that the direct.

817
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:28,719
Speaker 3: Connection, well when you read The apocalypse The book Of,

818
00:42:28,760 --> 00:42:34,080
Speaker 3: revelation as in my new, Book Antichristian, apocalypse there is there's,

819
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 3: sevenths there's seven seven, churches seven, seals seven, trumpets and

820
00:42:39,000 --> 00:42:43,320
Speaker 3: then seven. Plagues that's the sevenfold cycle that just starts

821
00:42:43,320 --> 00:42:46,799
Speaker 3: cycling literally twirling around in The book of The. Apocalypse

822
00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:50,040
Speaker 3: and as you as you go through, it you realize

823
00:42:50,400 --> 00:42:54,359
Speaker 3: that there's this very strong harvest theme in The book

824
00:42:54,360 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 3: of The. Apocalypse and this goes back to The gospels

825
00:42:57,040 --> 00:42:59,360
Speaker 3: Where christ, says you, know the harvest is, plentiful but

826
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:02,360
Speaker 3: the labor, few the angels will come and collect the.

827
00:43:02,400 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 3: HARVEST i, mean there's all these parables that have to

828
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 3: do with, harvesting, Right, so and it's harvesting of souls.

829
00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,520
Speaker 3: Right And christ even has him in The. Apocalypse he's

830
00:43:11,560 --> 00:43:14,560
Speaker 3: even depicted as having the sickle and reaching the sickle

831
00:43:14,640 --> 00:43:17,480
Speaker 3: down into the earth and harvesting the. Souls so this

832
00:43:17,560 --> 00:43:22,160
Speaker 3: whole idea that he is the kind of this great.

833
00:43:22,480 --> 00:43:25,640
Speaker 3: Farmer Remember adam was a, farmer Right adam And. Eve

834
00:43:25,680 --> 00:43:28,200
Speaker 3: he is cultivating the. Garden christ is the new. Atom

835
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 3: he was found in the. Garden Mary magdalene thought he

836
00:43:30,440 --> 00:43:34,160
Speaker 3: was the, gardener remember that On Easter. Sunday so he

837
00:43:34,400 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 3: is in a way cultivating a. Garden but is it

838
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:39,960
Speaker 3: just like grapes and, Grain, well in the, eucris it is,

839
00:43:39,960 --> 00:43:42,359
Speaker 3: that but it transubstantiates in his body and, blood and

840
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:46,200
Speaker 3: somehow it brings in this harvest of souls and so.

841
00:43:46,480 --> 00:43:51,320
Speaker 3: On All Saints' day traditionally we read from The book

842
00:43:51,440 --> 00:43:53,839
Speaker 3: of The, apocalypse and it's this whole, Idea and it's

843
00:43:53,840 --> 00:43:59,360
Speaker 3: the reading From revelation chapter seven where The angel comes

844
00:43:59,680 --> 00:44:03,480
Speaker 3: and it marks on the forehead with the sign of The,

845
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:08,200
Speaker 3: tao which is across on all the faithful on, earth

846
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,640
Speaker 3: and it marks them and denotes them that they are

847
00:44:10,640 --> 00:44:13,320
Speaker 3: to be harvested For Jesus. Christ they are to be

848
00:44:13,360 --> 00:44:16,440
Speaker 3: taken for. Him and that's the beautiful imagery in The

849
00:44:16,440 --> 00:44:19,520
Speaker 3: book Of revelation For All Saints day is that we

850
00:44:19,600 --> 00:44:22,000
Speaker 3: have been marked on our heads with the sign of

851
00:44:22,040 --> 00:44:26,239
Speaker 3: The cross and, baptism were baptized on our, heads and

852
00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,200
Speaker 3: then in The catholic, tradition the priest also Puts chrism

853
00:44:29,280 --> 00:44:32,080
Speaker 3: on our heads and marks us with the sign of the,

854
00:44:32,120 --> 00:44:36,239
Speaker 3: cross the seal of The cross Of Jesus, christ and

855
00:44:36,320 --> 00:44:39,960
Speaker 3: tells us to preserve this baptism until the day of our.

856
00:44:40,080 --> 00:44:43,520
Speaker 3: Death so in a way he marks us for the.

857
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,919
Speaker 3: Harvest this is why, EVENTUALLY i Think All Saints day

858
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,839
Speaker 3: was moved To november, first because it fits with this

859
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:55,719
Speaker 3: Apocalyptic book Of revelation harvest, theme because that's the time

860
00:44:55,719 --> 00:44:58,440
Speaker 3: of the, harvest you, know that final fall harvest of

861
00:44:58,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 3: bringing in everything before it turns. Winter so, yeah there's

862
00:45:02,040 --> 00:45:02,359
Speaker 3: all these.

863
00:45:02,360 --> 00:45:04,760
Speaker 1: Things by the, way is obviously just as a normal

864
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:07,440
Speaker 1: fall tradition anywhere you are in the.

865
00:45:07,480 --> 00:45:09,520
Speaker 2: World it's not tied to. Paganism the fact that.

866
00:45:09,480 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 1: It's becoming you, know fall and aut of and we're

867
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,279
Speaker 1: collecting the, crops, right that's just that's just.

868
00:45:15,400 --> 00:45:17,920
Speaker 2: Life you, know that's again part Of god's.

869
00:45:17,960 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 1: Creation but there's no there's no Direct and by the,

870
00:45:21,160 --> 00:45:22,600
Speaker 1: way if you if you end up for anyone who

871
00:45:22,640 --> 00:45:25,280
Speaker 1: ends up reading that, article if you, do it points

872
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 1: out that even even by the, way if you go

873
00:45:27,680 --> 00:45:31,840
Speaker 1: into The irish harvest, festival, uh in the ancient times of,

874
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,880
Speaker 1: sowing there was no connection to paganism.

875
00:45:33,880 --> 00:45:36,279
Speaker 2: Whatsoever it's a harvest. Festival that's. All that's. It that's

876
00:45:36,280 --> 00:45:36,480
Speaker 2: all it.

877
00:45:36,600 --> 00:45:38,360
Speaker 3: Was. YEAH i, mean you bring in a bunch of

878
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:40,479
Speaker 3: grain and you have tons of food and your work

879
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:42,000
Speaker 3: is all. Done what are you going to? Do you're

880
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,680
Speaker 3: going to eat great food and bake some pies and

881
00:45:44,760 --> 00:45:47,799
Speaker 3: have let the, yeah, yeah let the kids eat the

882
00:45:47,880 --> 00:45:50,840
Speaker 3: apples and you, know just have a grand old. Time

883
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 3: and and that's kind of part of it is is

884
00:45:53,120 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 3: it celebrating as we read in The book Of, revelation

885
00:45:56,239 --> 00:45:59,279
Speaker 3: you know That christ has marked us and he is

886
00:45:59,360 --> 00:46:02,600
Speaker 3: coming back for. Us he has more special to, him

887
00:46:03,400 --> 00:46:06,279
Speaker 3: and he wants to bring us into his, storehouse which Is.

888
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:08,920
Speaker 3: Heaven and that's the great hope of it. All and

889
00:46:08,960 --> 00:46:11,880
Speaker 3: that's what all science is all. About we look to

890
00:46:11,920 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 3: those who already made. It you, know it's kind of

891
00:46:14,200 --> 00:46:17,480
Speaker 3: like if you're you, know you're overcoming alcoholism or drugs

892
00:46:17,600 --> 00:46:21,120
Speaker 3: or a sex. Addiction meeting and knowing people who have

893
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:25,600
Speaker 3: been successful in that journey inspires you, Like, OKAY i

894
00:46:25,600 --> 00:46:27,319
Speaker 3: can do. It you KNOW i can do. IT i

895
00:46:27,360 --> 00:46:28,160
Speaker 3: can go one more.

896
00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:32,279
Speaker 1: Day WHEN i, say you, Know I'm i'm seventeen years,

897
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:35,279
Speaker 1: SOBER i try not to MAKE i try not, to you,

898
00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: know that's like. Bragging it's it's BUT i try to

899
00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:39,080
Speaker 1: mention that.

900
00:46:39,080 --> 00:46:39,560
Speaker 2: Every once in a.

901
00:46:39,640 --> 00:46:41,920
Speaker 1: While we just we just had, that you, know it's

902
00:46:41,920 --> 00:46:45,320
Speaker 1: just a couple of what two three weeks ago was my,

903
00:46:45,360 --> 00:46:47,239
Speaker 1: anniversary AND i try to mention.

904
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:47,960
Speaker 2: THAT i try to mention.

905
00:46:48,000 --> 00:46:50,319
Speaker 1: That you, know often it's not like a oh Look

906
00:46:50,320 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 1: i'm better than you. Think, no it's not like that at.

907
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:55,239
Speaker 1: All it's it's a message to anybody that is struggling

908
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:59,160
Speaker 1: out there that, hey seventeen years, boom didn't didn't THEY

909
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:00,360
Speaker 1: i get do seventeen, Years but HERE i.

910
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:04,600
Speaker 3: Am it's. Possible and that's. That that is just an

911
00:47:04,600 --> 00:47:06,600
Speaker 3: analogy to where we look in this lab like is

912
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:09,120
Speaker 3: it really worth being A? Christian is it really worth

913
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:11,320
Speaker 3: trying to live? Chase is it really worth going to

914
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 3: church Every sunday and you, know praying every day and this,

915
00:47:15,000 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 3: family and then you look at the saints and you're,

916
00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:20,279
Speaker 3: like they did. It thousands of people have done.

917
00:47:20,320 --> 00:47:25,400
Speaker 1: It and one, day one day, though when when we realize,

918
00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:28,560
Speaker 1: that you, know, go uh had a priest once who,

919
00:47:28,600 --> 00:47:30,120
Speaker 1: said you, know the best place to count your money

920
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:32,200
Speaker 1: is in the, graveyard best place to check your bank.

921
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:35,680
Speaker 1: Account you know that that this is this is a you,

922
00:47:35,719 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 1: know this is a testing ground we're in right.

923
00:47:38,040 --> 00:47:40,279
Speaker 2: Here this is this this reality that we're.

924
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:43,560
Speaker 1: In whatever it truly, is, right it's it's set up

925
00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:44,359
Speaker 1: for us as a.

926
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:47,839
Speaker 2: Test that's the true life right.

927
00:47:47,600 --> 00:47:51,320
Speaker 1: Beyond this and this is you, know so your answer

928
00:47:51,360 --> 00:47:54,160
Speaker 1: to the test will take place, there not, here and

929
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:54,799
Speaker 1: you're gonna be there.

930
00:47:54,719 --> 00:47:56,920
Speaker 2: A whole lot longer than you are, Here that's.

931
00:47:57,000 --> 00:47:59,640
Speaker 1: Right final final, words final words were almost out of,

932
00:47:59,640 --> 00:48:03,320
Speaker 1: Time Doc Tailor. Marshall the new Book Antichrist apocalypse Of

933
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,360
Speaker 1: bella were everywhere that books are, sold hasn't been banned, yet.

934
00:48:06,320 --> 00:48:07,040
Speaker 2: Get it before it.

935
00:48:07,120 --> 00:48:09,560
Speaker 1: Is we're definitely going to have to order some for

936
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:12,080
Speaker 1: it because Everyone i'm in every all the producers asking

937
00:48:12,080 --> 00:48:12,279
Speaker 1: me for a.

938
00:48:12,360 --> 00:48:12,640
Speaker 3: Copy.

939
00:48:12,680 --> 00:48:15,520
Speaker 2: Now but what's what's the final. Word why should people

940
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:16,000
Speaker 2: read this book?

941
00:48:16,080 --> 00:48:20,280
Speaker 3: Now, well you, know everything. Creepy The book Of revelation

942
00:48:20,360 --> 00:48:22,960
Speaker 3: has a lot of, creepy, scary unusual stuff in, it

943
00:48:23,040 --> 00:48:25,360
Speaker 3: and all of those things are, there just like the,

944
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:27,879
Speaker 3: demonic just Like, death just like all these in we're talking.

945
00:48:27,920 --> 00:48:30,400
Speaker 3: About as we get close To, halloween all of that

946
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 3: there is to inspire us to have hope and confidence

947
00:48:33,920 --> 00:48:37,680
Speaker 3: That christ conquered, death he conquered the, demons he conquered the,

948
00:48:37,719 --> 00:48:40,960
Speaker 3: devil all these things that scare, Us he's conquered and

949
00:48:41,040 --> 00:48:43,719
Speaker 3: we have hope in. Him and that's the message of all.

950
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:44,480
Speaker 3: Saints be a.

951
00:48:44,520 --> 00:48:50,480
Speaker 1: Saint Memento, maury, memento mori Mento, maury doctor Tailor. Marshall

952
00:48:50,520 --> 00:48:52,759
Speaker 1: the book is Anti christ and. Apocalypse thank you so,

953
00:48:52,920 --> 00:48:56,360
Speaker 1: Much god bless. You Happy halloween ladies and. Gentlemen as,

954
00:48:56,360 --> 00:48:58,040
Speaker 1: always you have my permission to lay shore