Speaker 1: Hey all, this is Danny. I just wanted to give
Speaker 1: you a heads up on today's episode. So we're still
Speaker 1: trying to record remotely with our guests, which is proving
Speaker 1: to be a bit more of a challenge than we
Speaker 1: thought it would be. Just you know, it was just
Speaker 1: difficult to have to sink up the audio would be
Speaker 1: like someone could hear, then someone couldn't hear, and then
Speaker 1: we moved from different you know, zoom to Google hangouts
Speaker 1: to this to that, and then finally we just decided
Speaker 1: to do it on our phone. It just was not
Speaker 1: sinking up. We're still trying to get access to our
Speaker 1: equipment so um and also stay safe. We're trying to
Speaker 1: take care of ourselves and our families and we have
Speaker 1: a lot of priorities right now, but still trying to
Speaker 1: check in every week and do this. So this episode
Speaker 1: might sound like you're talking to your friends on the
Speaker 1: phone and listening to a conversation with your friends back home,
Speaker 1: because that is exactly what it is. We had to
Speaker 1: call each other on the phone. Very old school, uh,
Speaker 1: super charming though. Coy Jondro, who's on it, is amazing
Speaker 1: as always in drops a lot of knowledge about Iron
Speaker 1: Man but I just wanted to give you a heads up.
Speaker 1: We're very aware we troubleshooted a lot this weekend and
Speaker 1: moving forward, hopefully we can figure it out this week.
Speaker 1: But anyways, enjoy this episode on Iron Man, Stay safe. Hello,
Speaker 1: and welcome to another edition of Nerd Assistant. I'm one
Speaker 1: half of your host, Danny Fernandez, and sitting on a
Speaker 1: different in a different area of Los Angeles than me is. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not sitting across from each other, I r L.
Speaker 1: But digitally, i'd say, I imagine myself staring you right
Speaker 1: down the barrel the two eyeball aeren no. But yeah,
Speaker 1: we're back. We're back together again. You through this pen,
Speaker 1: damn man, and you know we're still We're still gonna
Speaker 1: keep it popping because you know what, we still got
Speaker 1: to give the people what you want. We uh bear
Speaker 1: with us while our audio this week, we got to
Speaker 1: figure out this recording situation. UM, it's kind of hard
Speaker 1: to more hard, harder than you would think, UM trying
Speaker 1: to get like four people online at various locations. But
Speaker 1: joining us this week, we have a good friend of
Speaker 1: ours who was on for multiple episodes, and that is Coyndro.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us so excited? Uh, can we
Speaker 1: speak to the irony of us doing a self quarantine
Speaker 1: episode while we talked about a superhero that protects himself
Speaker 1: from iron suice, Like, there's sort here the story of
Speaker 1: us feeling isolated while also talking from across the cities. Yeah, no,
Speaker 1: that's the thing we were, you know, keeping it real.
Speaker 1: You know, this is what people need to hear. You know,
Speaker 1: so people might because honestly, you know the origin it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a self quarantine, but you know, only was
Speaker 1: trapped and uh and what did you do with that
Speaker 1: traffed energy? He made a suit? So maybe this would
Speaker 1: inspire us with listeners to make a make a COVID
Speaker 1: suit and and then um, you know fight. I don't know. Well,
Speaker 1: let's just get right into it. Folk. There's really a
Speaker 1: short ish episode, which is fine until we figure out
Speaker 1: this situation, our recording situations. Um coit. Can you start
Speaker 1: the people off by just letting them know the origins
Speaker 1: of Tony start like when he first appear. So one
Speaker 1: of my favorite things about Tony Stark is family longer
Speaker 1: event a superhero that was kind of unlikable. They set
Speaker 1: out to make a character that he thought no one
Speaker 1: would appreciate, so intentionally kind of stand office someone that
Speaker 1: would be appreciated by the masses. And to me, that's
Speaker 1: SUPs the marvel is there's this constant, undergone mentality even
Speaker 1: with his own fans, like the underdog, amongst even likability.
Speaker 1: So he came around of the late sixties. Um he
Speaker 1: showed up first, and I think like the nineteen sixty
Speaker 1: three fifty four, and then he had his own comic
Speaker 1: by the late fifties. So it took four or five
Speaker 1: years from had his own run and he took off
Speaker 1: in Tales of Suspense, and that's where you get like
Speaker 1: the iron Man one origin raising that very bulky suit,
Speaker 1: the full block, the I Am iron Man grew and
Speaker 1: then by the time he started in his own title
Speaker 1: that was the more Red and Yellow Suit. It evolved
Speaker 1: really quickly. But he was meant to be modeled after
Speaker 1: Howard Hughes, who if you guys don't know Howard Hughes,
Speaker 1: Howard Hughes was a prolific inventor, but a bit of
Speaker 1: a dick uh and a bit of a rec loose
Speaker 1: and kind of a crazy person. Uh. If you've seen
Speaker 1: that the Aviator Leonardo DiCaprio played Howard's Hughes, and you
Speaker 1: may remember that he ended up living in a in
Speaker 1: a small area of peeing in jars and going insane,
Speaker 1: and I feel like that kind of reflects the Tony
Speaker 1: Start's mentality, like Demon in a Bottle, Demon in the Bottle,
Speaker 1: one of the most iconic runs of Iron Man and
Speaker 1: Demon in the Bottle. For Howard, he was really peaking
Speaker 1: and bottled. There's a lot of beautiful cemetery with the
Speaker 1: real life, and then Disney when they took over, kind
Speaker 1: of made his dad, Howard Starks. No coincidence, Howard Howard
Speaker 1: uh an amalgamation of Howard Hughes and Walt Disney. So
Speaker 1: it's really cool how life kind of reflected, Arn't this
Speaker 1: his character that we now have Disney owning the character
Speaker 1: and mirroring it after their own creator while also mirroring
Speaker 1: their original creator. And iron Man himself is very much
Speaker 1: Robert Downey Jr. Who has managed to play with a
Speaker 1: likable character so likably. So the story of Iron Man
Speaker 1: from the sixties on is this amazing life imitating art
Speaker 1: imitating life situation and now he's got one of the
Speaker 1: most icon of characters that were and he was a
Speaker 1: C lister up until the movies. So it's cool that
Speaker 1: he's so popular. Now, yeah, I was gonna say so.
Speaker 1: These were some of Lee as Stanley Scots in nineteen three.
Speaker 1: He had been twined with the idea of a businessman superhero.
Speaker 1: He wanted to create the quote quintessential capitalist. Uh this
Speaker 1: is a quote from him. I think I gave myself
Speaker 1: a dare. It was the height of the Cold War.
Speaker 1: The readers, the young readers, if there was one thing
Speaker 1: they hated, it was war. It was the military. So
Speaker 1: I got a hero who represented that to the hundred degree.
Speaker 1: He was a weapons manufacturer. He was providing weapons for
Speaker 1: the army. He was rich, he was an industrialist. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be fun to take the kind of
Speaker 1: character that nobody would like, none of our readers would like,
Speaker 1: and shove him down their throats and make them like him.
Speaker 1: And he became very popular. That's so fascinating that he
Speaker 1: wanted to do something that he knew, like you said,
Speaker 1: would make a character incredibly unlikable, including having Guy Fiery's
Speaker 1: facial hair. Uh. Yeah. I always thought the facial hair
Speaker 1: was a visual cue because when you see it, dude,
Speaker 1: It's how of what's the nineties go to today? Like
Speaker 1: if you see a dude like with a Nickel Bax
Speaker 1: shirt and I kind of go to You're like, well, man,
Speaker 1: and I'm not gonna talk to that guy. And I
Speaker 1: feel like the Tony starkspacial hair is very much a
Speaker 1: visual like, well that's not for me. So even down
Speaker 1: to a spacial player, they've always given him this like
Speaker 1: hyper aggressive, hyper masculine, hyper down your throat for sona
Speaker 1: and then people have often compared him to you know,
Speaker 1: billionaire philanthropist. Uh, two different versions of characters. There's some
Speaker 1: Batman parallel, but to me, what's interesting is that Tony
Speaker 1: Stark is just as hard on the outside as the
Speaker 1: iron Man suit, whereas Bruce Wayne, the persona of Bruce Wayne,
Speaker 1: is the fake persona, like Bruce Wayne is the character.
Speaker 1: Batman is the reality, whereas iron Man definitely feels like
Speaker 1: what Tony Stark idealizes himself has. So I feel like
Speaker 1: Tony Stark and the Iron Man is much more of
Speaker 1: the same thing. Where does Bruce Wayne and the Batman
Speaker 1: are two very different things. I feel like Bruce Wayne
Speaker 1: Batman are there's a dichopany there that doesn't exist with
Speaker 1: Iron Man and Tony Stark. I think the brusque outside
Speaker 1: Hardshell maintains itself when you meet Tony Stark. Very few
Speaker 1: people I feel like, actually know who Tony Stark is,
Speaker 1: which is a really different character choice. Well, I feel
Speaker 1: like Tony Stark is very messy, like publicly messy, like
Speaker 1: even though he they're both you know, billionaires, I feel
Speaker 1: Tony embraces that and Bruce is more about appearances and
Speaker 1: so I don't think he allows himself. He's so put together.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's funny that Christian Bale played him because
Speaker 1: he also was an American psycho, and that's what I
Speaker 1: think of. It is just this like slick back hair,
Speaker 1: super well put together. You never see him off his
Speaker 1: game when he's Bruce Wayne, whereas Tony, like publicly I think,
Speaker 1: is okay with being a jokester and a prankster and
Speaker 1: like he's just to me, he was just like a
Speaker 1: like a messier younger brother of Bruce or some things
Speaker 1: if they're both billionaires, like one like a black sheet
Speaker 1: and one's the leader of the family. And the fact
Speaker 1: that Johnny Jr. Improvised the iron iron Man line. It's
Speaker 1: so embodies the character, the fact that the more of
Speaker 1: the universe forever changed because iron Man revealed himself in
Speaker 1: the first movie that the interne you picked off of
Speaker 1: iron Man and it ended with something, I am iron Man.
Speaker 1: That's such a Tony Stark move. What's that's such a arrogance.
Speaker 1: This is how it's gonna be on the side of
Speaker 1: this precedent. So I love the that we live. We
Speaker 1: live in a time where iron Man is so self
Speaker 1: actualized because I'd argue that iron Man knows himself more
Speaker 1: in the movies than he did in the comics until
Speaker 1: the movies existed. I think we know who iron Man
Speaker 1: is in a comic more now because of the movies
Speaker 1: that you well, I think to casting somebody that had
Speaker 1: a addiction issue that could speak to that probably bought it.
Speaker 1: Brought a lot of heart in the character. Yeah, I
Speaker 1: think someone that identifies with being rich and uncertain what
Speaker 1: to do with that power is exactly why the characters
Speaker 1: so real. The iron Man three, which is I think
Speaker 1: still slept on, dealing with PTSD and dealing with trauma
Speaker 1: and like all the mental aspects of that movie, I
Speaker 1: think it's incredible that that's a superhero film, but it
Speaker 1: really takes that side of things seriously and that that's
Speaker 1: the strength of the character of Iron Man is he's
Speaker 1: unlikable and yet he's got all that heart that's buried
Speaker 1: under an iron suit. That was kind of what was
Speaker 1: so kind of poetic about iron Man and the le
Speaker 1: of iron Man is that, you know, iron Man becomes
Speaker 1: this comeback character who liked defeats his like alcoholism and
Speaker 1: kind of moves forward and has new life. And that's
Speaker 1: kind of what that was for Like Robert Downey Jr.
Speaker 1: In his real life, you know, he was just coming
Speaker 1: off This was kind of his like the Iron Man
Speaker 1: was was kind of his comeback movies after kind of
Speaker 1: being not necessarily but kind of blacklisted within Hollywood because
Speaker 1: he just had this, you know, addiction problem. And then
Speaker 1: he kind of this new clean life that he kind
Speaker 1: of gets to portray in this movie. And I think
Speaker 1: it really did turn his whole career. Yeah, I was
Speaker 1: gonna say. Writer Gary Conway said, Um, this was of
Speaker 1: the comics. Here you have this character who on the
Speaker 1: outside is invulnerable, i mean just can't be touched, but
Speaker 1: inside is a wounded figure stand made it very much
Speaker 1: and in your face was you know, his heart was broken,
Speaker 1: you know, literally broken. But there's a metaphor going on there,
Speaker 1: and that's I think what may that character interesting? Now?
Speaker 1: Jerry Conway should be noted the last time I was
Speaker 1: underr shirt, we talked Punisher. That is the man who
Speaker 1: made Punisher. That is the man who kills Gwynn Stacy.
Speaker 1: That is the man who knows all about pain and
Speaker 1: heart and suffering to call some of the most suffering
Speaker 1: and all the comics books. Uh so, I I love
Speaker 1: that his pick on Iron Man is like, I killed
Speaker 1: Gwynn Stacy, but man, that Iron Man knows pain and suffering.
Speaker 1: So yeah, then Iron Man is uh is It's cool
Speaker 1: that he's kind of a pseudo leader of the Avengers
Speaker 1: because you've got Captain America, who's the opposite. He's kind
Speaker 1: of like hard on his sleeve and Iron Man is
Speaker 1: like mess on his sleeve, but he's kind of hides
Speaker 1: his heart. A lot of people like the Wasp, and
Speaker 1: a few people know like what what gets the Iron
Speaker 1: Man and how he kicks, But he's got so many
Speaker 1: like iron walls up in h in the comics and
Speaker 1: the movie. Yes, so another thing I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1: I know we compared him to Bruce Wayne, who's a
Speaker 1: ladies man. Uh, but iron Man is also a ladies man.
Speaker 1: In fact, uh Stan Leaf said, of all the comic
Speaker 1: books we published at Marvel, we got more fan mail
Speaker 1: for iron Man from women than any other title. We
Speaker 1: didn't get much fan mail from girls, but whenever we did,
Speaker 1: the letter was usually addressed to iron Man. I find
Speaker 1: that fascinating because I don't know who they think they're writing. Uh.
Speaker 1: Maybe they think that he's a real person over at Marvel,
Speaker 1: um Mr Stark. But that's adorable that women were writing.
Speaker 1: I guess that they just wanted more of him, or
Speaker 1: there's that Hue Hester persona, Like, there's that element and
Speaker 1: he really doing the Hue Hester tabio and iron Man
Speaker 1: like that. It's it's definitely a bit of the braggadocious
Speaker 1: nature of Tony Stark. So I can definitely see that
Speaker 1: being appealing to a certain demographic. Uh. So it's really
Speaker 1: funny that there's it's it's it's interesting how people want
Speaker 1: fictionalized characters so like represent a piece of them, And
Speaker 1: I feel like that's completely happens with Tony Stark. So
Speaker 1: you you throwed up Demon in the Bottle, and I
Speaker 1: think we should probably like explain that a little more
Speaker 1: for uh, for the listeners, because Demon in the Bottle
Speaker 1: was nine issues story arts from the Invisible Iron Man
Speaker 1: that was published issues one twenty three, nineteen seventy nine.
Speaker 1: Was that all about? So imagine like fresh off the
Speaker 1: Comics Code Authority, they're worried about printing anything that portrays
Speaker 1: too much violence or drugs us or any of these things.
Speaker 1: And then you've got one of your your characters at
Speaker 1: your place wielding the marble banner being an alcoholic on
Speaker 1: the cover. It's one of the most it's one of
Speaker 1: the most coffeed covers. It's one of the most you know,
Speaker 1: imitated storylines. But a guy with all of that power
Speaker 1: drunk in his suit. It's a commentary on duise. It's
Speaker 1: a commentator like commentary and power responsibility like people behind
Speaker 1: the wheel of a car is one thing that is
Speaker 1: horrible and reflective of the time. And then imagine someone
Speaker 1: with the button like on the nuke, Like, if you
Speaker 1: can wield an iron suits, you're exceed the terrifying commentary
Speaker 1: on power, uh, and and saying you will about this country,
Speaker 1: but we definitely wield powered in very interesting ways. So
Speaker 1: I liked him in the seventies and weird going through
Speaker 1: some more commentary, they really looked at an industrialist who
Speaker 1: made weapons not being able to handle his addiction. So
Speaker 1: demon of the model was him looking at himself and
Speaker 1: realizing he had a problem, realizing that he was an addict,
Speaker 1: realizing that he couldn't handle his own like he didn't
Speaker 1: like himself enough to handle himself well. And this country
Speaker 1: has always had a weird thing with alcohol, like we
Speaker 1: look at up until recently, we'd was something you go
Speaker 1: to prison for life, spore like we we'd has always
Speaker 1: been this thing. But since prohibition we have alcohol is
Speaker 1: like this totally acceptable vice and drug. So I am
Speaker 1: Man was like, nah, right, you could die, like this
Speaker 1: is an aggressively bad time. So it really its shepherded that,
Speaker 1: And I think that's really cool that comics looked at
Speaker 1: alcohol in a way that movies glorify alcohol, books glorify alcohol.
Speaker 1: Comics were like, no, no, this is just as dangerous,
Speaker 1: if not more than a lot of things. You can
Speaker 1: walk to the understore and get behind the wheel of
Speaker 1: the car or an iron suit. Yeah, I I just
Speaker 1: wanted to scrib have to cover from those who haven't
Speaker 1: seen it and looking at it. I definitely saw this before,
Speaker 1: so so just so people who may not exsud it.
Speaker 1: And you can google this. If you look up iron Man,
Speaker 1: even in the bottle, first, it will give you the
Speaker 1: trade that doesn't have the cover, and it's like, what
Speaker 1: are you doing the whole But then if you look
Speaker 1: at it just to show you, but it's it's the
Speaker 1: Iron Man cover. He's uh, he's he's sitting in a suit,
Speaker 1: but under the suit is the Iron Man suit. The
Speaker 1: Iron Man helmet is Everything about this cover is pretty righty.
Speaker 1: The helmet is looking at him. It's it's in the
Speaker 1: it's from the mirror, shows a bottle of whiskey. What
Speaker 1: it's kind of poured over, looks like he drinks them
Speaker 1: and he's sweating staring at his reflection in the mirror
Speaker 1: of like who he is. It's it's there's so many
Speaker 1: little like details just in this cover that are just
Speaker 1: great and tell me story. We talked about a spacially literally.
Speaker 1: Another cool thing about this cover is he's not clost
Speaker 1: to like his his suit dracket, his torn he's got
Speaker 1: like you know, uh, not even five o'clock shadow like
Speaker 1: ten o'clock shadow, and like you, he's a he's a
Speaker 1: broken ln And they reflected that film and Iron Man
Speaker 1: too with that party scene. Also in Infinity War, um,
Speaker 1: when he's talking to the helmet, and in an endgame
Speaker 1: at the beginning when he's talking to helmet, there's a
Speaker 1: lot of that. Yeah, the Hamlet metaphor, like the hamlet
Speaker 1: metaphors in this company. That's so great. You're exactly right.
Speaker 1: I just watched endgame again and while we're stuck in here,
Speaker 1: and uh, that's exactly what I thought of. There's also, um,
Speaker 1: I'll have to send this to all over our Google
Speaker 1: hang out, but there's somebody recreated the cover with a
Speaker 1: Lego so it's like a Lego. Angry Tony starts looking
Speaker 1: at his little Lego helmet and then there's little Lego
Speaker 1: wine bottles knocked over. That's amazing. But there's also a
Speaker 1: Deadpool moboration of that. I was gonna say, there's also
Speaker 1: milestone uh figure where it's an action figure of just
Speaker 1: that scene. It's completely sold out though, good look, I'm
Speaker 1: desperately seeing if there's any pricing on it. It was
Speaker 1: originally one highly doubt you're gonna find it for that much. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that Deadpool and the Jerry Duggan run. Not in Confused
Speaker 1: Jerry Conway. There's a cover with Deadpool and it's it's
Speaker 1: the same cover. It's Tony Start looking in the mirror,
Speaker 1: but a Deadpool looking back at him, drinking a like
Speaker 1: a like a shake and it's like the Curly Gold.
Speaker 1: But also the during the time, like seventy nine was
Speaker 1: was at the model and this was when all the
Speaker 1: spy stuff was really big and popular. So there's also
Speaker 1: like the Tony Star James Vond commentary, there's a lot
Speaker 1: of the spionage flavor and all those things. So to
Speaker 1: have the character of that hyper masculine and at the time,
Speaker 1: like you know, we have a country don't talk about
Speaker 1: like men's emotions nearly enough in general, but especially not
Speaker 1: these hyper masculine characters. So to have someone like Tony
Speaker 1: Starts to have an alcohol problemly like having James Vond
Speaker 1: be like, I don't bring mar teens anymore. It was
Speaker 1: a really big thing to have that kind of character.
Speaker 1: Do you like John Hamm having alcohol problem? Bad man?
Speaker 1: It was a really different time, so it kind of
Speaker 1: changed the whole tone of comics in the eighties. Yeah,
Speaker 1: this country is intense. Yeah, it's really great. Uh And
Speaker 1: you know obvious for all your collectoring out there, and
Speaker 1: I'm going for too much. He's not going to break
Speaker 1: because all things considered, iron Man, even with all the popularity,
Speaker 1: since he's had so many runs of comics, he gets
Speaker 1: canceled a lot because he wants this popular as popular
Speaker 1: until the movies and stuff, you can get a decent
Speaker 1: runt of Iron Man. Comics were not too bad. Like
Speaker 1: as far as the cost of collecting goes, he's not
Speaker 1: your Spider Man, he's might your recommend Yeah, they're demon
Speaker 1: in the bottle showing point five quality. Uh. And in
Speaker 1: the case, right now, get out of internet. We have
Speaker 1: to take a really quick break. We're gonna hop into
Speaker 1: more iron Man right after that and we are back.
Speaker 1: We're still here with Coy. Uh So, Coy, you were
Speaker 1: going to talk to us about the his different suits.
Speaker 1: I'm looking actually at a poster of all his man'
Speaker 1: that's pretty legit. Um, he's a he's a toymaker's dream
Speaker 1: before there were toys, like we're not there. Before there
Speaker 1: were toys, but before they made a hundred different toys
Speaker 1: now at a different times. But if you look at
Speaker 1: the suit, it's really fun because you've got all the
Speaker 1: different coloring, you've all got all the different shapes and designs.
Speaker 1: It's kind of like the fun of getting to draw
Speaker 1: a car or a vehicle, but on a man. So
Speaker 1: he's a fun thing for an artist to design. And
Speaker 1: then there's the military and medieval aspect. There's the um
Speaker 1: you know, aerodynamic aspect. You look at the Ultimate Iron
Speaker 1: Man suit, it looks completely different than the regular Iron
Speaker 1: Man suit. You look at kind of the spinoff characters
Speaker 1: like war Machine, and you can it becomes more kank like.
Speaker 1: So the design of the character is a lot of
Speaker 1: fun because depending on what you need the power set
Speaker 1: to do, you can make the suit that You've got
Speaker 1: your underwater suits, you've got your space suits, you've got extremists,
Speaker 1: You've got all these things. And it's really fun because
Speaker 1: the writer in the artists get to really redesign and
Speaker 1: shape the character. And as long as it looks enough
Speaker 1: like Iron Man's Iron there one of these are not
Speaker 1: gonna lie. Looks kind of like Captain I mean Captain Plane.
Speaker 1: That does not surprise me. I like the Iron Patriots,
Speaker 1: sup because he kind of took over the stars and
Speaker 1: stripes flavor of Captain America as like this kind of
Speaker 1: tongue in cheek case and uh, that also became a
Speaker 1: tricky suit because it was a villain suit. Norman Osborne
Speaker 1: actually get ahold of it when he was leading the
Speaker 1: funder Bolts, so that suits became an icon of good
Speaker 1: and then immediately evil. And that's you know say about Marvel.
Speaker 1: But they're never not political. This was during a very
Speaker 1: certain time in our country and it wasn't interesting runs. No, Yeah,
Speaker 1: we talked about this when we've talked about some about there.
Speaker 1: I think we talked about this on your episode that
Speaker 1: Marvel and DC have covered every single war since there
Speaker 1: in steps in and so I think it's really funny
Speaker 1: that whenever people are like keep politics out of it,
Speaker 1: and it's just like since you've ever been involved in comics,
Speaker 1: they have been political. He's been political. Comics weren is
Speaker 1: not invented for that only, but like part of their
Speaker 1: invention was to be political commentary like comic books are.
Speaker 1: That's why there's political comics. That's why in the newspaper
Speaker 1: you have a commentary on thing so it's also the
Speaker 1: voice of society. You've got literature meeting art, which are
Speaker 1: too very politically charged things. So it's really funny when
Speaker 1: any piece of pop cultures like keep closics out of it.
Speaker 1: It's like, not pop culture reflects the times and at
Speaker 1: the times you're dire, that's gonna be the thing. And
Speaker 1: if you've got a war profiteering character Tony Starting, the
Speaker 1: character that made billions of war and then was destroyed
Speaker 1: by those devices and then fought wars like that sounds
Speaker 1: a little politically, y'all. Yeah, yeah, I was gonna say
Speaker 1: the need for superheroes and itself is innately political because
Speaker 1: like we have we have governmental you know, we have
Speaker 1: our own military and officers and things like that. And
Speaker 1: then to say, oh, but we still need people fighting crime.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a political commentary in my mind, um
Speaker 1: about inadequacies and injustices. But um, I wanted to talk
Speaker 1: to you quite too about submit to your favorite Iron
Speaker 1: Man storylines. So the politics actually ties nicely into that
Speaker 1: because you've got like Colonel Rhodes, whose war machine is
Speaker 1: obviously that's that's very that's American militaries that ties into
Speaker 1: that world and that leads beautifully in the Civil War.
Speaker 1: The Civil War is you know about the Registration Act,
Speaker 1: and if we're talking about, you know, government control, there's
Speaker 1: not much more controlling than revealing your identity or not
Speaker 1: or you know, in the times we live in now,
Speaker 1: big brother, and how much access the government has for
Speaker 1: our privacy and ships. And obviously Civil War was a
Speaker 1: commentary on that is privacy in your own individual rights
Speaker 1: as as a citizen. So iron Man saying basically, I
Speaker 1: want this to be publicly known and Captain America going
Speaker 1: against it. That's a giant piece of pit commentary. I
Speaker 1: think Civil War is an absolutely brilliant run that got
Speaker 1: in America killed. In the comics, one of my favorite
Speaker 1: single issues of Iron Man is called The Confession, And
Speaker 1: if Brian Michael Bendis wrote it, if I remember correctly,
Speaker 1: and uh, it's after Cap dies and it's Tony at
Speaker 1: his bedside basically apologizing for being wrong. So it's Tony
Speaker 1: Stark and talking to CAP's dead body like I'm so
Speaker 1: sorry I got you killed at un sucked up. So
Speaker 1: that's kind of the strength of iron Man is he
Speaker 1: doesn't he thinks he's right up until he's wrong. I
Speaker 1: killed me the first to apologize after he's proven completely wrong,
Speaker 1: but he'll be the last one that stays wrong because
Speaker 1: that's the character and and that's that's demon in the bottle.
Speaker 1: That's that's extremist. He's also one of my other favorite artists,
Speaker 1: the Infamous iron Man, and he kind of goes power
Speaker 1: crazy and he puts devices in the entire country and
Speaker 1: he helps people that can't walk, he helps the disabled,
Speaker 1: he helps people with you know, um, the curance for
Speaker 1: all these diseases, but then he starts charging for them,
Speaker 1: and basically it starts profiteering off of the entire country's health.
Speaker 1: So it's kind of the giant supervillain Tony Stark arc.
Speaker 1: So Infamous iron Man is oh sorry, Superior iron Man,
Speaker 1: my bad. Superior iron Man is him becoming a almost
Speaker 1: dictator like Dr Doom and profiteering off of everyone's health,
Speaker 1: but also thinking like wait, wait, I helped everyone, why
Speaker 1: why shouldn't I make money? So Superior iron Man is
Speaker 1: check out like it's it's a crazy And that's also
Speaker 1: I mean, that's about political. It gets while we're dealing
Speaker 1: with a fucking COVID crisis. Um, but it's gonna be
Speaker 1: really interesting to see how you reflect these times in
Speaker 1: comic books, because iron Man is gonna be reflecting the
Speaker 1: President in about six months, and Superior iron Man would
Speaker 1: totally be about you know, government testing for coronavirus parts rise. Uh.
Speaker 1: So there's been a lot of arcs that are dealing
Speaker 1: with profiteering. Um I really like extremists because it's him
Speaker 1: um his power sat basically he can bring the suit
Speaker 1: to him at all time, so it's dealing with nanotech.
Speaker 1: Currently in the comics, he's downloaded his psyche, he died,
Speaker 1: and he's an AI entity. Iron Man right now is
Speaker 1: just an AI construct. Tony starts dead, so it's him
Speaker 1: dealing with the concept of what reality is. Is my
Speaker 1: memories and my existence real? Is my body real? What
Speaker 1: does it mean to be real? Am I just a program?
Speaker 1: So very like existential insanity? Well, I was gonna say,
Speaker 1: because he was talking about how Cap died. But Tony's uh,
Speaker 1: what are the instances of him like sacrificing himself in
Speaker 1: the comics. Well, but there's arm Awards, which is another
Speaker 1: one of his best arts, where he basically has to
Speaker 1: take out all of his suits and then they reflect
Speaker 1: that iron Man three, and it was kind of like
Speaker 1: the death of Iron Man, not Tony Stark, so sacrificing
Speaker 1: all of this technology, all of that for the greater good. Um,
Speaker 1: he sacrifices himself. And the ultimates run quite a bit.
Speaker 1: The ultimates. He's very much the the modern billionaire craziness. UM.
Speaker 1: So he's definitely sacrificed his company many time. Uh starts
Speaker 1: tach has been owned by lost a lot of people. Um,
Speaker 1: but Tony Stark himself only, which is funny to say
Speaker 1: because comics has only died like four or five times.
Speaker 1: I want to talk about the movies because it's so
Speaker 1: interesting how big are Man now when back when? And
Speaker 1: I believe we talked about this before in the podcast,
Speaker 1: where like when the Iron Man the movie was made,
Speaker 1: it was just made because they're like, well, this is
Speaker 1: a this is a no lift factor, this is a
Speaker 1: character that no one's attached to. This is just iron Man.
Speaker 1: It's not a Spider Man, it's not a you know,
Speaker 1: exist So we can just make this movie and try
Speaker 1: to see and then it just blows up and and
Speaker 1: for our our dj okay rather down a jaire being
Speaker 1: like the biggest part of it. I think a lot
Speaker 1: of people don't know. One didn't even want a Rotter
Speaker 1: Downey Jr. Uh ad the uh at the beginning because
Speaker 1: of the bad publicity and the rest that he had
Speaker 1: his drug. Yeah. They wanted Tom Kaiz, yeah, which such
Speaker 1: a different one. I think that like I could see
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise as a Tony starts. Like, you fix some
Speaker 1: of the archetypes, you fix some of the storylines, you
Speaker 1: fix some of the stuff. But if you think about
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise movies, they're very much Tom Cruise, and it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, uh, kind of like how the X Men,
Speaker 1: in my opinion, got messed up in the movies because
Speaker 1: they were Wolverine and the X Men. It was it
Speaker 1: was Brian Singer's new There was never an X Men show.
Speaker 1: So I don't if if we got Tony Stark as
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, it would have been that it would have
Speaker 1: been Tom Cruise as Tony Starks, but we wouldn't have
Speaker 1: gotten me into you in the way it is today.
Speaker 1: Wouldn't have been the Avengers, it wouldn't have been these
Speaker 1: giant team ups because I feel like it wouldn't have
Speaker 1: been like Mission Impossible. Tried to bring in Jeremy Renner
Speaker 1: as like the second guy, and then it's back to
Speaker 1: doing Tom Cruise age fifty something, doing all the insanity
Speaker 1: still because Tom Cruise, like this is my franchise. You know,
Speaker 1: it's so funny. Is Um Crisis on Infinite Earth? You
Speaker 1: know they had like all these alternate the CW had
Speaker 1: all these alternate Superman then Batman, And it would be
Speaker 1: really funny if Marvel did that but had Tom Cruise
Speaker 1: as like the alternate Tony Stark. If they ever like
Speaker 1: a full on live action Spider Verse type thing where
Speaker 1: there's alternate reality and Tom Cruise cameos for five minutes,
Speaker 1: like if it's like old man Stark, like Downey Junior
Speaker 1: doesn't want to come back. There's like a Kang storyline.
Speaker 1: Can you imagine Kang bringing in like seven year old
Speaker 1: Tom Cruise in ten years, fifteen years. I was gonna
Speaker 1: say John Krasinski audition like what five times they're sent
Speaker 1: like to be cap Um, So that could also be
Speaker 1: John could also be the alternate universe cap in spite
Speaker 1: of like just everybody that auditions for it that almost
Speaker 1: got it, that like is really close looking but not
Speaker 1: quite totally embodies the character. Just like have them be
Speaker 1: the alternate universe ones that would be so funny, you know,
Speaker 1: like Josh Hutchers Center, Dylan O'Brien a spider Man, like
Speaker 1: meeting Tom holand not to mention the be so dope
Speaker 1: Timothy Shallow may imagine. I still think you made a
Speaker 1: great moments bore Man can imagine like Timmy Shalomy as
Speaker 1: like the best friend but like super handsome and evil. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that would. I was gonna say one thing about the
Speaker 1: movie that I remember is it kind of just set
Speaker 1: the bar and changed the game for all of the
Speaker 1: superhero movies after that. It was like nothing was quite
Speaker 1: like it. Uh it still it had a ton of
Speaker 1: comedy in it, and I just remember the soundtrack to
Speaker 1: like a CBC and all of that. Like it just
Speaker 1: really I think changed the game for superhero movies. Like
Speaker 1: that was that was the next phase of superhero movies. Well,
Speaker 1: two thousand Night had both The Dark Knight and Iron
Speaker 1: Man in one year, so the Dosan Night was about
Speaker 1: to change the decade, and it changed the entire genre
Speaker 1: because no one loved or hate You can't argue that
Speaker 1: two thousand times We're a superhero decade. That's what movies changed.
Speaker 1: The industry. That's all that, and it kicked all the
Speaker 1: iron Man a dark Knight, and iron Man was like
Speaker 1: gifing the thing such a such a not gamble, gamble.
Speaker 1: It was a gamble financially because they were giving it
Speaker 1: to John Fabre who at the time that made swingers
Speaker 1: and smaller films. Robert Downey Junior, who had just finished
Speaker 1: you know, his his comeback with Kiss, Kiss Bang Bang,
Speaker 1: which is still the most left on movie of our time.
Speaker 1: Uh Kiss Kiss Bang Bang is, I would say, the
Speaker 1: most underappreciated film all of the mountains. Uh So he
Speaker 1: had one movie like just coming back, So that's a
Speaker 1: hard sell to anybody. And then it's the thing that
Speaker 1: launches the biggest industry of all times. So iron Man
Speaker 1: for me, is probably the biggest underdog story in cinema,
Speaker 1: like because you know, Lord of the Ring is gonna
Speaker 1: make a million dollars. You know, Spider Man's gonna make
Speaker 1: all this money. Iron Man is an unknown studio being
Speaker 1: released by Paramounts. It wasn't even released by Marvel Studios
Speaker 1: because they didn't have distribution. Like it was only twelve
Speaker 1: years ago that Marvel Studios couldn't release a movie. Paramount
Speaker 1: had to be like, all right, fine, we'll call the theaters.
Speaker 1: We know ere's your ship, and now it's it's Marvel,
Speaker 1: like it's crazy. So that was a huge list, and
Speaker 1: uh I remember the writing production was they were making
Speaker 1: upsides as they went along, which became a problem with
Speaker 1: Iron Man too. Is like the script was being written
Speaker 1: John Fabro and Downey Junior as they went along. So luckily,
Speaker 1: you know, Jeff Bridges was super amiable to improve the
Speaker 1: Downey Junior obviously is a genius of improv. But it's
Speaker 1: insane that the movie that changed the entire decade of
Speaker 1: the twenties ten wasn't finished being written when they were
Speaker 1: filming it. Wild. It also was a time before I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, shows before Star Wars was
Speaker 1: was Disney Disney and Marvel is was Disney totally spent
Speaker 1: back that time, and they only had Iron Man because
Speaker 1: they couldn't sell them in the in the late night
Speaker 1: early thousand. Marvel was so broke they were selling off
Speaker 1: their characters so universal, not whole, because everyone knows whole.
Speaker 1: Spider Man went to Sony, X Men went to Fox.
Speaker 1: They couldn't unload Iron Man if they wanted to, so
Speaker 1: that they're like, we should make our own movies. We've
Speaker 1: got this Iron Man of the God of Thunder, and
Speaker 1: like I mentioned today, well, it's really funny to me
Speaker 1: because their choice of picking these characters that are C
Speaker 1: list characters kind of fit with like this outcast. Like
Speaker 1: when I think of Chris Pratt, he always played like
Speaker 1: this goofy kind of not he wouldn't he wasn't considered
Speaker 1: like an A list the hunky actor. He wasn't the
Speaker 1: Brad Pitt or whatever. And so to me, it's really
Speaker 1: fascinating that they were able to make gold with having
Speaker 1: outcast actors playing outcast characters. And even broader than that,
Speaker 1: we talked about like Marvel using the Underdog comics book
Speaker 1: studio with their characters being underdogs. You've got Spider Man,
Speaker 1: anyone to sere wear the mask, You've got all of
Speaker 1: these things. And then the studio that couldn't get their
Speaker 1: own distribution becomes the biggest studio in the world. That's like,
Speaker 1: that's like Rudy, but the studio that's like a sports movie,
Speaker 1: that's remember that's tightened. Yeah, we have to take another
Speaker 1: really quick break and then we're gonna hop back into
Speaker 1: Iron Man and talks about the future of iron Man
Speaker 1: right after this, and we're back walking back to their
Speaker 1: different I am across from me Digital League, Deny Fernandez Here,
Speaker 1: we're doing it. We're trying to do it. Um, which
Speaker 1: still we still have our friend Poy hearing m coy. Um,
Speaker 1: let's talk about re re when really took over the mantle? Um?
Speaker 1: What what happened with that storyline? So, really Williams is
Speaker 1: another Brian Michael Bendas creation. He's come up a couple
Speaker 1: of times. He also invented mild Morales. He's also written
Speaker 1: a lot of the best quickly iron Man. That's like
Speaker 1: his voice really suited Tony Stark and that snarks uh
Speaker 1: if you actually a lot of people know iron Man
Speaker 1: from the movies. The moment where iron Man puts on
Speaker 1: the Infinity Gauntlet is a Jono Ter JR. Brian Michael
Speaker 1: Bendis cover. That's there's a cover of iron Man wielding
Speaker 1: the Infinity Gauntlet. So Brian Michael Bendis the writer knows
Speaker 1: iron Man very well, and really Williams was one of
Speaker 1: his creations. She's fairly new, she's only five years old
Speaker 1: something like that, around five years old. Um, And she
Speaker 1: is a young scion prodigy. She's from Chicago. She lost
Speaker 1: one of her very good friends at a young age.
Speaker 1: She's got the marvel traditional like her parents are are
Speaker 1: tricky than our understander, and I lost someone very important
Speaker 1: to me in this case. What I liked about her
Speaker 1: is she didn't lose her parents. She had a single
Speaker 1: mom raised her and she lost her best friend. So
Speaker 1: losing a friend in the streets from Chicago, Like, that's
Speaker 1: a really traumatic experience and it was nice to not
Speaker 1: have the traditional life Uncle Ben or Batman parents Like
Speaker 1: it was a friend. So she kind of represents the
Speaker 1: modern day, like the kid on the streets, Like people
Speaker 1: lose people, their peers, and that's just as traumatic as
Speaker 1: your parents. So she's the street kid from Chicago. And
Speaker 1: she gets accepted to m I T at like sixteen,
Speaker 1: So I have a soft spot Perrina released from a
Speaker 1: Boston kid to the fact that she's like an m
Speaker 1: I T kid at sixteen is like hell yeah, uh.
Speaker 1: And she invents her own suit. She goes to m
Speaker 1: I T by day, Fight Fight Villany by night. Uh.
Speaker 1: She's like a snarky little girl from the Chicago streets.
Speaker 1: Um and she starts up a kind of a stink
Speaker 1: with all these other girls that are that are hyper
Speaker 1: intelligent science girls. Uh. And it's a it's a book
Speaker 1: led by um Lost and it's it's girl like. It's
Speaker 1: an acronym for girls as pretty. The accronym is because
Speaker 1: there's so much comics, but it's it's like a think
Speaker 1: tanks for intelligence, scientifically based women. And I think that's
Speaker 1: just so rad for girls to have science as the
Speaker 1: basis of a book. For a kid to read a
Speaker 1: book and you're like superheroes, just super smart, like re
Speaker 1: rely superpower is she did the ship and she's smart,
Speaker 1: and that's uh. I think that's the best thing we
Speaker 1: can teach kids, especially if they're from rougher neighborhoods, especially
Speaker 1: if they're trying to see what right and wrong is.
Speaker 1: Like the moral compass that Rearri Williams gives kids from
Speaker 1: the streets, especially people that have lost people to gun
Speaker 1: violence and to growing up and not the knights of neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Leary Williams is literally the definition of Rag's riches and
Speaker 1: she's using it to help people. And she's not rich,
Speaker 1: she's just got a hypeman suit. I was gonna see
Speaker 1: so she also popped up um in Marvel Rising Hard
Speaker 1: and Iron Right. She's voiced by Sophia Wiley. Sorry, go ahead, Yeah,
Speaker 1: she's she's got a cartoon. She also she's in The Champions,
Speaker 1: so she's got like a spin off book. So she's
Speaker 1: caught like. The Champions are like a very uh politically
Speaker 1: charged of Avengers. The Champions go after, you know, the
Speaker 1: smaller things where they can help people on the street,
Speaker 1: and the book is very uh self aware and that
Speaker 1: it's trying to get messengers across. So she's a character
Speaker 1: that's really like, hey, this is messed up. These are
Speaker 1: the people we need to be helping. So the Champions
Speaker 1: and her cartoon are both very politically charged out to
Speaker 1: what it's likes to roll up in these less than
Speaker 1: apple wood areas and how we can all be helping. Well,
Speaker 1: you'll have this point because n I T. Actually in
Speaker 1: two seventeen, their admissions department released a short live action
Speaker 1: video of re Re walking around campus, attending class, and
Speaker 1: building an iron Heart suit in her dormitory. We live
Speaker 1: in a time where am I T made a re
Speaker 1: Re Williams video? Can we just take a moment to
Speaker 1: appreciate that's what it's like in the nineties if Harvard
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, we've got this girl natal the apartment
Speaker 1: attending our school. She's got to play sore later like
Speaker 1: the level of just appreciation from Ivy League Glory just
Speaker 1: warmed my heart because now we have the Wakanda outreach,
Speaker 1: like an actual Wakandan. Like after Black Panther succeeded, they
Speaker 1: started building actual scientific communities in the neighborhood where the
Speaker 1: movie took place. And now we've got m I t
Speaker 1: being like, by the way, we know we got really Williams,
Speaker 1: Like what a great time to be a kid reading
Speaker 1: comics or an adult to go like, look, we worked,
Speaker 1: we did it. I mean, yeah, there's a lot going
Speaker 1: on in the comics right now, I believe, like the
Speaker 1: X Men or once again trying to create another Genova,
Speaker 1: and we have uh these they're trying to outlaw teams
Speaker 1: from being a superheroes. They think they're irresponsible, but you
Speaker 1: know it was depite of all that. What do you
Speaker 1: think the features for Ironman, especially since Tony Starkay, So,
Speaker 1: what did you saying about Hireman right now? Is he'saling
Speaker 1: with the ramifications of being an AI and then there's
Speaker 1: a lot of interesting commentary where robots are treated like
Speaker 1: people and they're treated like less than people simultaneously. So
Speaker 1: it's about human rights, but they're doing it through the
Speaker 1: very suddenly availed like robot. Right, So it's marvel like
Speaker 1: having this great commentary of like what it means to
Speaker 1: be a person, but they're doing it through robots, which
Speaker 1: is a really cool angle of like what it means
Speaker 1: to exist, what it means to be an entity. So
Speaker 1: right now there's a really really interesting run. I believe
Speaker 1: it's who's writing a Dan Slot, Dan Flots writing um
Speaker 1: iron Man right now and dealing with the concept of existence.
Speaker 1: And then Arno Stark, which is iron Man's big brother,
Speaker 1: Tony Stark's big brother, Arno Keen's iron Man. So there's
Speaker 1: this completely separate arc of Arno Stark as iron Man,
Speaker 1: and he's a little rougher on the edges. He's a
Speaker 1: little bit more of an industrialist that wants to take
Speaker 1: over things. So right now, iron Man in the book
Speaker 1: isn't even Tony Stark, it's Arno Stark, and it's a
Speaker 1: totally different flavor. It's very like do remember the twenty
Speaker 1: note in one Comics were like Miguelo Herald was Sputterman
Speaker 1: and that was different like Ultimate Universe stuff Arnold so
Speaker 1: much like that. It's like a little as you're like,
Speaker 1: what is the future, but we also live in the
Speaker 1: year twenties. Just just feel controgristed a book. Well, I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. We actually opened up our Twitter asking
Speaker 1: people about their favorite Iron Man UH experiences. By the way,
Speaker 1: if you don't follow nerd Deficent on Twitter, UH, we
Speaker 1: every week we're going to be asking you know, a
Speaker 1: different question pertaining to the episode. So it's a great
Speaker 1: way to get a shout out. Make sure that you
Speaker 1: follow us on there. But this one is from Child's
Speaker 1: Xavier laster Kay, who said, my dad, who's had a
Speaker 1: comic budget of five hundred dollars a month since the eighties,
Speaker 1: I have a question about that. Us in the eighties
Speaker 1: was a lot of money. It's still a lot of
Speaker 1: money now. But what does your dad do? Um hadn't
Speaker 1: gone to a movie theater in almost twenty years. Iron
Speaker 1: Man is released. At the same time, a brand new
Speaker 1: movie theater opened up, and we went as a family
Speaker 1: of six. I mean, really, what does your dad do?
Speaker 1: This is the dad from home alone, like, how do
Speaker 1: you have six kids and a five hundred dollar comic
Speaker 1: book budget? Um? Then we went again the next day
Speaker 1: after school, then five times more again, sir, what does
Speaker 1: your dad he's actually Charles? Like that is legit that
Speaker 1: he runs a school for wear reviews. I'm dressed. Wow.
Speaker 1: The only other comic book moment that ever compared was
Speaker 1: when I took him to see Logan as being a
Speaker 1: short Harry Canadian himself. That was his favorite character. He
Speaker 1: snuck in my name being Charles Xavier by tricking my mom.
Speaker 1: His name is amazing. I love your entire brand, by
Speaker 1: the way, I thought, that's so funny. That's like our
Speaker 1: friend Laura, whose son is Picard. I think he has
Speaker 1: a couple of names, like all he has like three
Speaker 1: names and they're all nerves based. Okay, this one's from
Speaker 1: Chris Bib He said the great moment in Matt Fraction
Speaker 1: Talky when where Tony tried to get his friend Hokeye
Speaker 1: to stop living like a slob. Do you remember this point?
Speaker 1: I don't actually which which moment is? He said, living
Speaker 1: like a slab. He's looking at like his Christmas tree
Speaker 1: and like he just has a bunch of boxes and
Speaker 1: his apartment. He looks like he might have punched a
Speaker 1: hole in the wall, which is Pete Hawkeye vibe. Um. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I also before we before we leave the last one,
Speaker 1: I would still main saying we're talking about the movies
Speaker 1: where I'm an iron Man, I would main same. That's
Speaker 1: even after twelve years and twenty three movies, iron Man
Speaker 1: one is still in my top five. Like, I agree
Speaker 1: with this guy going to the movie theater iron Man one.
Speaker 1: It's it's even after all the movies have had sense,
Speaker 1: there's something still special about that first iron Man. I
Speaker 1: totally agree. That's the uh. It's such a genre redefining
Speaker 1: movie and it still holds up, Like if you watch
Speaker 1: iron Man today, it's still an incredible time. Yeah. So
Speaker 1: the Nixtlan Daves Murreros says really loves hole an Infinity
Speaker 1: one movie. Iron Man and Doctor Strange. We're picking on
Speaker 1: each other to prove it the science, engineering or the
Speaker 1: mystical had the edge at the battle front. Facial hair brows.
Speaker 1: There's a running there's a running joke in uh in
Speaker 1: the comic books. So that's who they both have ridiculous
Speaker 1: facial hair. Tony starts always wants to refer to them
Speaker 1: as facial hair brows, and he's always trying to high five,
Speaker 1: and Tony starts about it and Strange hates it. So
Speaker 1: Stephen Strange and there's like this weird romance that I
Speaker 1: love because I'm the bromance genre is my ship. Like
Speaker 1: Buddy Cops is the best genre in the world. So
Speaker 1: in the uh dock, Strange and Iron Man are like
Speaker 1: Buddy Cops that can't stand each other. So I love that.
Speaker 1: F into one end game that kind of reflected that,
Speaker 1: like I was waiting for them l facial hair brows.
Speaker 1: It never happened, but maybe there's the lead a team
Speaker 1: who knows what will happen. But if somehow Tony back game, No,
Speaker 1: they gotta do it. I know they filmed uh idear,
Speaker 1: they filmed the Iron Strange Right here, there's a moment
Speaker 1: they actually filmed where they have Stephen Strange wearing the
Speaker 1: Iron Man suits, like out there somewhere as the deleted
Speaker 1: dreams we been at a coverbatch in the Iron suit
Speaker 1: while they're fighting. He was heavily in far from home,
Speaker 1: so he was present, he was he was there, His
Speaker 1: essence was there. Okay, It's like I'm Uncle Ben in
Speaker 1: the m C you like they just full on paid
Speaker 1: Tony started Uncle Ben there even like talking about power
Speaker 1: and responsibility. He was mourning his loss like they definitely
Speaker 1: made sure Tony Stark was in that Spider Man movie.
Speaker 1: Thank you for joining us under these circumstances. We hope
Speaker 1: that you are you know, social distancing there with your cat,
Speaker 1: which I could see profit into you said slightly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: my cat's name is spidy Cat. For all your listeners,
Speaker 1: I have maintained I started social distancing on third day.
Speaker 1: This is this is fully a weekend. I'm going mad,
Speaker 1: but I'm so glad we can still talk about comics,
Speaker 1: even from across town, like twenty has allowed us after
Speaker 1: an hour and a half of fighting to manage a podcast.
Speaker 1: We payed for an hour before they started, and this
Speaker 1: is the best sound that we could do. So I
Speaker 1: just want y'all to know that I'm sure coit. Where
Speaker 1: can everyone find you? I can find me on Twitter
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Speaker 1: I used to host this show called Collatter Hero's. If
Speaker 1: we ever get out of quarantine, I will host the
Speaker 1: show called Comic Book Shopping, but that means I have
Speaker 1: to be around people because I bring people to comic
Speaker 1: book stores. And I hope both of those things exist
Speaker 1: in the next two months, and there's people and comic
Speaker 1: book stores. But on YouTube, I'm basically doing what I
Speaker 1: used to do on on Collatter Heros and giving commentary
Speaker 1: on every single comics from the big studios, every single luke,
Speaker 1: all of the news, all of the madness, all while
Speaker 1: trying to learn YouTube because I'm not used to. I
Speaker 1: don't know O b S existed until like five weeks ago,
Speaker 1: so I'm learning along with them. D well, I I
Speaker 1: wanna this is the question and maybe a plain tip
Speaker 1: that you can give to all listeners, which is how
Speaker 1: are you getting your comics during this quarantine? So right
Speaker 1: now house the Singerts was still doing curbside pickups, so
Speaker 1: I don't have to interact with the humans. So I
Speaker 1: have a polist which I set up ahead of time,
Speaker 1: and I have all my comics picked out for me,
Speaker 1: and then they let me pick them up outside and
Speaker 1: I pay in advance or I like there's a tab,
Speaker 1: so it's literally like it feels like I guess sketchy like, hey,
Speaker 1: Mr with liquor store. I'm like, hey, let's just get
Speaker 1: those comics and I traft my books. But you can
Speaker 1: also Comicsology is a great app for digital comics. I
Speaker 1: have to read a lot of my comics digitally because
Speaker 1: they add up, like three comics in a long box
Speaker 1: adds up quick. So digital comics is great, and comics
Speaker 1: Oology has this barrowing system with a lot of older runs.
Speaker 1: So I'm rereading Why the Last Man right now completely
Speaker 1: for free because you can borrow the first two volumes
Speaker 1: for free, and it's like going to the library. So
Speaker 1: it's a new little library and we're living in a US,
Speaker 1: so it's a great time to read Why the Last
Speaker 1: Day About it A poxist read Thomas, you guys got
Speaker 1: three time, pick it up, do it. I'm at miss
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Speaker 1: late night show, so we can rest saying going just
Speaker 1: from my home, so keep tune in at the eleven
Speaker 1: PCM Eastern time eight pm specific time Monday through past.
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