1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:03,480 Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox 2 00:00:03,560 --> 00:00:06,560 Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Welcome to the program, Dan and the Dan 3 00:00:06,680 --> 00:00:09,639 Speaker 1: n Stan Patrick Show. It's our one mus Tuesday. Come 4 00:00:09,640 --> 00:00:13,200 Speaker 1: on in stay a while. You were four warned last 5 00:00:13,280 --> 00:00:16,400 Speaker 1: night with the Titans against the Bills. We'll dive into 6 00:00:16,440 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 1: that coming up. Got a play the day, stat of 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:22,240 Speaker 1: the day, poll question, all of that. Forthcoming NBA season 8 00:00:22,400 --> 00:00:26,759 Speaker 1: opener tonight. We'll talk to NBA on TNT host Adam Lefco. 9 00:00:26,840 --> 00:00:30,320 Speaker 1: He's in Milwaukee, Milwaukee versus the Nets coming up tonight. 10 00:00:31,160 --> 00:00:33,720 Speaker 1: Titans beat the Bills. Both teams now four and two. 11 00:00:34,320 --> 00:00:37,920 Speaker 1: Braves at the Dodgers Game three. That's this afternoon. By 12 00:00:37,920 --> 00:00:40,680 Speaker 1: the way, Astro's at the Red Sox will be later 13 00:00:40,720 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 1: on tonight. That'll be Game four, eight seven seven three 14 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:47,120 Speaker 1: d P Show Email address Dpadan Patrick dot com Twitter 15 00:00:47,120 --> 00:00:49,920 Speaker 1: handle at dp's show. Say good morning, Good morning to 16 00:00:50,040 --> 00:00:53,960 Speaker 1: our streaming partner Peacock, download the app watch for free 17 00:00:54,000 --> 00:00:57,360 Speaker 1: all three hours and our radio affiliates around the country. 18 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:00,400 Speaker 1: In some ways, the Titans running back dear Ke Henry 19 00:01:00,440 --> 00:01:03,360 Speaker 1: feels like he belongs in a different era because today's 20 00:01:03,440 --> 00:01:06,360 Speaker 1: NFL is all about the passing game and running backs 21 00:01:06,360 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: are probably judged by their ability to catch passes and 22 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,160 Speaker 1: maybe pick up blitzes. No longer to teams run to 23 00:01:13,200 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: set up the pass they passed to make the run 24 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:19,600 Speaker 1: a little easier. Henry and the Titans turned that formula 25 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:21,839 Speaker 1: on its head a couple of years ago. And they're 26 00:01:21,840 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: not trying to fool you. They let you know. Derrick 27 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:27,039 Speaker 1: Henry's coming right at you. Just try to stop him. 28 00:01:27,319 --> 00:01:30,039 Speaker 1: And last night the Bills couldn't well, at least on 29 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,679 Speaker 1: one run, a seventy six yarder that helped Tennessee pick 30 00:01:32,800 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 1: up the win. Derrick Henry is leading the league and 31 00:01:35,680 --> 00:01:40,679 Speaker 1: rushing by over two hundred yards through six weeks. Teams 32 00:01:40,680 --> 00:01:43,760 Speaker 1: aren't geared to stop Derrick Henry. They used to be, 33 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:48,840 Speaker 1: but defenses have gotten smaller and faster, and this is 34 00:01:48,840 --> 00:01:52,040 Speaker 1: to counter the spread offenses. And that makes somebody like 35 00:01:52,160 --> 00:01:54,919 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry a unique challenge because there's no other running 36 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:57,760 Speaker 1: back like him. You know, he took Tennessee to the 37 00:01:57,800 --> 00:02:02,320 Speaker 1: AFC title game in twenty nineteen twenty seven, still going strong, 38 00:02:02,840 --> 00:02:04,400 Speaker 1: and we'll see if he can do the same for 39 00:02:04,440 --> 00:02:07,200 Speaker 1: the Titans and maybe take them further. While he's still 40 00:02:07,240 --> 00:02:09,120 Speaker 1: at the top of his game. There have been a 41 00:02:09,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: lot of analytics on Derrick Henry, and I've said this 42 00:02:12,560 --> 00:02:15,760 Speaker 1: for years. At some point some team is going to 43 00:02:15,840 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: have a counter attack that if you have smaller defensive players, 44 00:02:19,600 --> 00:02:22,120 Speaker 1: you want faster defensive players. You've got to cover your 45 00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:24,120 Speaker 1: wide receivers, You've got to be able to get to 46 00:02:24,160 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 1: the quarterback. At some point, somebody is going to utilize 47 00:02:27,560 --> 00:02:30,280 Speaker 1: a running game. And Derrick Henry has been that battering ram. 48 00:02:30,639 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: It's like I've said about the NBA, everybody's trying to 49 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:38,079 Speaker 1: shoot the three. Does somebody maybe have a counterintuitive approach 50 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,560 Speaker 1: and they just have big men? Like how would you 51 00:02:40,639 --> 00:02:43,600 Speaker 1: deal with Shack in today's NBA game? How would you 52 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:47,320 Speaker 1: utilize him? Because you wouldn't be relying on the three. 53 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,200 Speaker 1: And we've seen this with teams that they can't compete 54 00:02:51,240 --> 00:02:54,320 Speaker 1: that way, shouldn't try to compete that way, so they 55 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: build a team differently, and you've seen that with Tennessee. 56 00:02:57,639 --> 00:03:00,520 Speaker 1: Now the analytics are looking at Derrick Henry. If he 57 00:03:00,520 --> 00:03:04,280 Speaker 1: can keep up this pace per game over his last 58 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:07,920 Speaker 1: forty games, he's averaging almost one hundred twenty rushing yards 59 00:03:08,040 --> 00:03:11,639 Speaker 1: per game, so it would take him almost one hundred 60 00:03:11,639 --> 00:03:15,000 Speaker 1: games to break Emmett Smith's record, and he would do 61 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:17,560 Speaker 1: that at the age of thirty three. That's the same 62 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:21,240 Speaker 1: age that Emmett Smith was when he set the record. Okay, 63 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:25,600 Speaker 1: I don't like when somebody says somebody's on pace because 64 00:03:26,200 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 1: I go back to if somebody throws four touchdown passes 65 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 1: in the first week of the NFL season, what are 66 00:03:32,160 --> 00:03:35,600 Speaker 1: they on pace four? Well, the odds of that happening 67 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: are very very very well, they're not happening. And that's 68 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:42,640 Speaker 1: why when you say, you know, he's on a pace four, okay, 69 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:44,960 Speaker 1: that doesn't mean he's going to be able to maintain 70 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:49,280 Speaker 1: that pace, not that running style. And you know, Emmett 71 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: was different because that was a balanced offense he had. 72 00:03:52,080 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: He had an unbelievable offensive line. He had Hall of 73 00:03:55,440 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: famers on that offensive line, he had a Hall of 74 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:00,200 Speaker 1: Fame quarterback, he had a Hall of Fame wide receiver. 75 00:04:00,000 --> 00:04:03,800 Speaker 1: Emmett was durable as well. You know, I remember when 76 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:08,000 Speaker 1: he had the separated shoulder one season. But Derrick Henry 77 00:04:08,120 --> 00:04:11,040 Speaker 1: started out where he wasn't the featured back the first 78 00:04:11,080 --> 00:04:13,240 Speaker 1: couple of years. He wasn't even the featured back at 79 00:04:13,240 --> 00:04:17,080 Speaker 1: Alabama's entire career. There, so he does have less wear 80 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 1: and tear, but he is inviting contact there and it's 81 00:04:21,680 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: a little bit different. Is he a bigger running back, 82 00:04:24,320 --> 00:04:28,480 Speaker 1: faster running back than Emmett Smith? He is, But it 83 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:31,479 Speaker 1: felt like you could run to set up the pass, 84 00:04:31,680 --> 00:04:33,359 Speaker 1: or you could pass to set up the run with 85 00:04:33,400 --> 00:04:36,520 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys, with that team, they were that versatile. 86 00:04:36,960 --> 00:04:39,960 Speaker 1: With Tennessee, I'd like to see more out of those 87 00:04:40,000 --> 00:04:44,200 Speaker 1: wide receivers. They just can't stay healthy. And Ryan Tannehill 88 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,120 Speaker 1: has proven he's gotten that second, second chance, second career 89 00:04:48,160 --> 00:04:50,839 Speaker 1: and he's played well. But it comes down to Derrick 90 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Henry and playing pretty good defense, because that's what happened 91 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:56,680 Speaker 1: last night. I mean, Buffalo did a pretty good job 92 00:04:56,720 --> 00:04:59,760 Speaker 1: on Derrick Henry. I mean Buffalo could have won that game. 93 00:05:00,640 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry had one big run, but then they were 94 00:05:03,520 --> 00:05:06,560 Speaker 1: holding him do about three yards per carry. You just 95 00:05:07,480 --> 00:05:09,400 Speaker 1: you got to hold on for dear life and not 96 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:11,479 Speaker 1: let him hit a home run. And that's what happened 97 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,400 Speaker 1: last night. But it came down to a quarterback sneak 98 00:05:14,920 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 1: game of inches. Josh Allen and he talked about it 99 00:05:18,760 --> 00:05:22,280 Speaker 1: last night on the failed fourth down conversion didn't work 100 00:05:22,320 --> 00:05:25,159 Speaker 1: out in our favor. Obviously didn't have the greatest footing. 101 00:05:25,560 --> 00:05:30,839 Speaker 1: It happened game of inches. The play before it's pretty 102 00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:32,720 Speaker 1: close to can turn out in my favor. To day, 103 00:05:32,720 --> 00:05:34,120 Speaker 1: we were two or five in the red zone and 104 00:05:34,200 --> 00:05:36,640 Speaker 1: can't do that. I guess the team like this, You 105 00:05:36,680 --> 00:05:37,920 Speaker 1: know a lot I should have could have put us, 106 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:40,080 Speaker 1: and I no doubt that. You know we're gonna use 107 00:05:40,120 --> 00:05:42,279 Speaker 1: us to feel us and be ready to go in 108 00:05:42,320 --> 00:05:46,200 Speaker 1: two weeks. Here's the Bill's head coach Sean McDermott on 109 00:05:46,240 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 1: that play. At the end of the day, I trust 110 00:05:48,160 --> 00:05:50,919 Speaker 1: him and I'll trust him again when we're in that 111 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:54,920 Speaker 1: situation again. So I'll take Josh Allen, as you said, 112 00:05:54,960 --> 00:05:57,200 Speaker 1: sal ten times out of ten. So give them the credit. 113 00:05:57,240 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: They made the play they had to make when the 114 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 1: game was on the line. Week five last season, Titans 115 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:06,360 Speaker 1: beat the Bills forty two sixteen. I think the Titans 116 00:06:06,400 --> 00:06:09,000 Speaker 1: are a good team when healthy. I think they can 117 00:06:09,040 --> 00:06:12,239 Speaker 1: be a really good team, but we haven't seen that yet. 118 00:06:12,560 --> 00:06:14,800 Speaker 1: But last night that's one of those wins that you 119 00:06:15,160 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: might look back on this and say, Wow, that was 120 00:06:18,240 --> 00:06:21,720 Speaker 1: an impressive win, or that really propelled this team. I 121 00:06:21,760 --> 00:06:23,760 Speaker 1: don't know, and I still think the Bills are the 122 00:06:23,800 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 1: team to beat right now in the AFC. But that 123 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 1: win last night, you know, that's impressive. And I think 124 00:06:31,839 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: the Titans that's one of those where you just tap 125 00:06:34,200 --> 00:06:36,440 Speaker 1: peep on the shoulder and say, we're still here. Because 126 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: it's such a long season and everybody is getting injured. Hey, 127 00:06:41,400 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 1: let's tack on another game. Heah, sure, and look at 128 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:49,000 Speaker 1: all the injuries and here we are six weeks, seven weeks. 129 00:06:49,480 --> 00:06:51,640 Speaker 1: You might have to have another bye week for these teams. 130 00:06:52,279 --> 00:06:55,440 Speaker 1: But this is a battle of attrition. Can Derrick Henry 131 00:06:55,440 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: continue to do this? Will those wide receivers be healthy? 132 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 1: You know? I just don't know Julio Jones, And there 133 00:07:02,000 --> 00:07:04,719 Speaker 1: were certainly whispers when he was in Atlanta that he 134 00:07:04,800 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: didn't want to play football anymore and he wanted out. 135 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:11,240 Speaker 1: They had no problem letting him go because I think 136 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:15,080 Speaker 1: they saw if he's got something, it might not be 137 00:07:15,160 --> 00:07:18,480 Speaker 1: for long. Yeah. Mclovin, Can I share a nineteen nineties 138 00:07:18,480 --> 00:07:21,679 Speaker 1: football hot take? Real quick? Sure? I think Emma Smith 139 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,040 Speaker 1: was a bit overshadowed by Barry Sanders being so spectacular. 140 00:07:25,320 --> 00:07:31,239 Speaker 1: That's hard to see his legacy for what it is. Uh. Well, 141 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:35,000 Speaker 1: I think Emmett acknowledges that if Barry had stayed and 142 00:07:35,080 --> 00:07:38,400 Speaker 1: wanted to play, he would have broken his record. Emmett 143 00:07:38,440 --> 00:07:41,680 Speaker 1: was just you just plugged and played and you just 144 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:46,000 Speaker 1: he was so reliable and there wasn't he wasn't a 145 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:50,640 Speaker 1: highlight player in an era of highlights and how important 146 00:07:50,720 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 1: highlights were back then. He he just gave you seven, 147 00:07:55,600 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: he gave you nine, he gave you four, he gave 148 00:07:58,280 --> 00:08:01,840 Speaker 1: you thirteen. That's just Emmett. He just kept pounding away 149 00:08:01,880 --> 00:08:07,680 Speaker 1: at you. Barry was minus one plus one sixty two, 150 00:08:08,520 --> 00:08:14,040 Speaker 1: minus one plus one fifty eight. That's that was his style. 151 00:08:14,120 --> 00:08:16,760 Speaker 1: But he didn't play behind that Detroit you know, that 152 00:08:16,840 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 1: Detroit offensive line, you know, did not compare to what 153 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,240 Speaker 1: Dallas had and they were one dimensional. So what Barry 154 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:27,640 Speaker 1: did is more remarkable in my opinion, than what Emmett did. 155 00:08:28,200 --> 00:08:31,920 Speaker 1: But Emmett had everything you want on that offense and 156 00:08:32,000 --> 00:08:34,600 Speaker 1: he took advantage of it. But you know, part of 157 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:39,080 Speaker 1: being a great player is being available, and Emmett was available, 158 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,120 Speaker 1: and he you know, you could you could plug. You 159 00:08:43,200 --> 00:08:45,200 Speaker 1: knew that he was gonna be there, and you knew 160 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: how dangerous he could be. And Barry was dangerous in 161 00:08:48,960 --> 00:08:52,040 Speaker 1: a different way. Yeah, mclv. Is there any consensus on 162 00:08:52,040 --> 00:08:54,120 Speaker 1: who the best running back of all time is? Kind 163 00:08:54,120 --> 00:08:59,160 Speaker 1: of like Jerry Rice is for wide receiver. Um. I 164 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:01,800 Speaker 1: think if you look Jim Brown, what he did when 165 00:09:01,840 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: he played, it was remarkable because he was so fast 166 00:09:06,000 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 1: and so big and he was unstoppable. Here's a guy 167 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: who got bored after nine years playing in the NFL, 168 00:09:14,320 --> 00:09:17,080 Speaker 1: and I think he walked away. And I think they 169 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,600 Speaker 1: played twelve games or fourteen games, maybe twelve, and he 170 00:09:20,720 --> 00:09:25,080 Speaker 1: had like sixteen seventeen hundred yards. He decided to retire, 171 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:28,480 Speaker 1: to go into movies. He was done. He was done 172 00:09:28,520 --> 00:09:32,160 Speaker 1: with football after nine years. If Jim Brown continued to play, 173 00:09:32,720 --> 00:09:35,480 Speaker 1: then Jim Brown would probably be the all time rushing leader. 174 00:09:36,400 --> 00:09:40,840 Speaker 1: Sixteen hundred yards this last season in fourteen games. So 175 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: he didn't play sixteen, he played fourteen, sixteen hundred yards. 176 00:09:45,679 --> 00:09:50,640 Speaker 1: He walks away, Barry Sanders walks away. Got tired of 177 00:09:50,679 --> 00:09:55,559 Speaker 1: losing Emmett playing on a great team, America's team, and 178 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,160 Speaker 1: you had all those weapons, and of course you're going 179 00:09:58,240 --> 00:10:00,800 Speaker 1: to want to stay around for that yampo. By the way, 180 00:10:00,880 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 1: Jim Brown never missed a game due to injury, started 181 00:10:03,320 --> 00:10:04,960 Speaker 1: every single game of his career that he was eligible 182 00:10:05,000 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 1: to play. Isn't if For those who didn't see Jim 183 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,960 Speaker 1: Brown play, is Derrick Henry a pretty decent comparison. He's 184 00:10:11,120 --> 00:10:13,400 Speaker 1: bigger than some of the linebackers trying to tackle him, 185 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: and he's like forcefully dominant hit apples in origin. But 186 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 1: like from the physicality standpoint, yeah, Jim Brown took on 187 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:26,600 Speaker 1: contact and uh, you know, but just he was so 188 00:10:26,720 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: much bigger than the players. And the defensive backs back 189 00:10:29,160 --> 00:10:31,880 Speaker 1: then were like five ten, five to eleven, you know, 190 00:10:32,040 --> 00:10:35,240 Speaker 1: maybe two hundred pounds. Jim Brown was just faster and 191 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,200 Speaker 1: bigger than everybody, and he played on a really good 192 00:10:38,480 --> 00:10:42,560 Speaker 1: you know, Cleveland Brown's offense, a really good Cleveland Brown's team. 193 00:10:43,200 --> 00:10:47,439 Speaker 1: But you know, when you start to compare generations of 194 00:10:47,480 --> 00:10:50,240 Speaker 1: who they're playing against, the you know, the quality of 195 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 1: today's athlete with Derrick Henry as opposed to Jim Brown, 196 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:57,320 Speaker 1: you know there's a big difference in there. But I 197 00:10:59,040 --> 00:11:02,800 Speaker 1: it's always dangerous when you compare because you know somebody 198 00:11:02,800 --> 00:11:06,200 Speaker 1: would say, well, how would Jim Brown do in today's NFL, Well, 199 00:11:06,240 --> 00:11:09,600 Speaker 1: he would be he'd be different, he'd be built different. 200 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: They would ask him to be catching passes out of 201 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 1: the backfield. And Jim Brown, that type of athlete would 202 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:21,560 Speaker 1: probably still be very successful in the NFL. But Derrick 203 00:11:21,640 --> 00:11:24,280 Speaker 1: Henry is just that's unique. But I can go back 204 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,920 Speaker 1: to Kristin o'koye, who played for the Kansas City Chiefs, 205 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:30,720 Speaker 1: who was one of those physical runners. You know he 206 00:11:30,760 --> 00:11:33,640 Speaker 1: would he would take on contact here. But Derrick Henry 207 00:11:33,760 --> 00:11:36,800 Speaker 1: has that great top end speed that you don't find 208 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:39,959 Speaker 1: in somebody that big. Yeah, McLevin, are you impressed by 209 00:11:40,280 --> 00:11:43,319 Speaker 1: someone's restraint here? In this running back all time? Running 210 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:45,520 Speaker 1: back to Baiting? You know, Walter Payton is one of 211 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 1: the great running backs of all time? Easy? And you 212 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:52,080 Speaker 1: know I can't. He didn't play for great teams, but 213 00:11:52,200 --> 00:11:56,240 Speaker 1: I I max it what he did more impressive. Yeah, 214 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:58,800 Speaker 1: but he wasn't better than Barry Sanders in my opinion, 215 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 1: with if you want true electricity, Barry Sanders was Gail says, 216 00:12:04,360 --> 00:12:08,800 Speaker 1: was more electric than Walter, But Walter was Emmett Smith 217 00:12:09,000 --> 00:12:12,720 Speaker 1: without the great weapons up front or a great quarterback 218 00:12:12,880 --> 00:12:16,880 Speaker 1: or great receivers. And you know what you saw from 219 00:12:16,880 --> 00:12:21,320 Speaker 1: Walter Payton was pure Walter Payton. But you know in 220 00:12:21,360 --> 00:12:25,160 Speaker 1: today's NFL Walter Payton will have a thousand catches in 221 00:12:25,200 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 1: his career. He mean, he was that versatile. But you know, 222 00:12:29,080 --> 00:12:31,600 Speaker 1: once again, if you said I'm gonna put in a 223 00:12:31,679 --> 00:12:34,880 Speaker 1: tape and watch a running back, I'd probably watch Jim 224 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: Brown or Barry Sanders just because it was unique and 225 00:12:39,160 --> 00:12:43,320 Speaker 1: it's still unique. There's nobody like Barry Sanders, nobody, and 226 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:47,960 Speaker 1: you never saw him get hit, never, and he can 227 00:12:48,040 --> 00:12:51,640 Speaker 1: make everybody look silly, like we look at Chris Johnson 228 00:12:51,640 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 1: and we go, man, that guy's unbelievable. Wall He did 229 00:12:54,080 --> 00:12:57,520 Speaker 1: it for one year, Barry did it for a decade 230 00:12:57,559 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: and then walked away and said, I don't want to 231 00:13:00,240 --> 00:13:04,439 Speaker 1: lose anymore. I'm tired of this. I mean, that's pretty remarkable. 232 00:13:04,880 --> 00:13:07,160 Speaker 1: Two of the greatest running backs of all time walked 233 00:13:07,160 --> 00:13:11,200 Speaker 1: away from the game because they were pretty much fed up. 234 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: Jim Brown was born and Barry Sanders didn't want to 235 00:13:14,800 --> 00:13:18,200 Speaker 1: lose anymore. This program brought to you by the great 236 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: folks at Panini America. Hottest Rookie's biggest superstars, the old 237 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,560 Speaker 1: time greats. Only one place to collect them all, Panini 238 00:13:24,720 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: Trading Cards for Instant Classics Autograph cards, memorabilia card's rare inserts, 239 00:13:29,240 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: hottest rookie cards start continue your collection now Panini America 240 00:13:33,200 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: dot net. Adrian Peterson is a forgotten man in my opinion, 241 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 1: because Adrian Peterson, you know, obviously had issues suspended. But 242 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:46,840 Speaker 1: I thought Adrian Peterson could end up as the old 243 00:13:46,840 --> 00:13:50,920 Speaker 1: time rushing leader. I really thought that. And he was spectacular, 244 00:13:50,960 --> 00:13:56,960 Speaker 1: and he was consistent, and he was durable. But you know, 245 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,240 Speaker 1: you look at Frank Gore, look at some of these eyes. 246 00:14:00,280 --> 00:14:03,320 Speaker 1: Where you go, man, how do you stay in the 247 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: game that long? Curtis Martin had unbelievable numbers, Ladanian, Tomlinson, Like, 248 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 1: there's so many great running backs. You just, uh, we're lucky, 249 00:14:17,640 --> 00:14:21,720 Speaker 1: you know, having been able to have watched them, you know, 250 00:14:21,760 --> 00:14:25,320 Speaker 1: from Jim Brown on you know there it's a long 251 00:14:25,360 --> 00:14:27,440 Speaker 1: list of great great running backs. Yeah, I'm the club. 252 00:14:27,480 --> 00:14:29,400 Speaker 1: How about a shout out to that peak of Earl 253 00:14:29,480 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: Campbell for a couple of years. Yep, Yeah, Earl Campbell 254 00:14:33,760 --> 00:14:37,320 Speaker 1: those first three or four years, and they took a 255 00:14:37,360 --> 00:14:41,760 Speaker 1: toll on Earl two. Yeah. I think he's still paying 256 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:44,280 Speaker 1: the price for for that type of running attack. Yeah, 257 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,120 Speaker 1: Earl Campbell's first three year seventy eight, seventy nine, eighty, 258 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:51,880 Speaker 1: he ran for fourteen fifty seventeen hundred nineteen hundred, leading 259 00:14:51,880 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: the league and rushing all three years, leading the touchdowns 260 00:14:54,480 --> 00:14:56,840 Speaker 1: all three years. We'll get to phone calls, settle on 261 00:14:56,880 --> 00:14:58,840 Speaker 1: a poll question. By the way, a bunch of new 262 00:14:58,840 --> 00:15:01,880 Speaker 1: T shirts available in the store dan Patrick dot com. 263 00:15:01,880 --> 00:15:06,120 Speaker 1: The Justin Herbert inspired Charger football is fun t shirt. 264 00:15:06,120 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers still owns the Bears, and we have a 265 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:11,240 Speaker 1: T shirt to prove it. Plus a bunch more available 266 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: at dan Patrick dot com. 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Coming up tonight, 277 00:15:45,920 --> 00:15:48,920 Speaker 1: TNT is going to have the bucks and the nets 278 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:52,480 Speaker 1: and the man, you will see hosting the festivities. Adam 279 00:15:52,560 --> 00:15:55,720 Speaker 1: leftco host of NBA on TNT also the Left Go 280 00:15:56,120 --> 00:16:01,920 Speaker 1: Show podcast, Bleacher Report Gamings Underrated on TBF. So Adam 281 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: left Go joining us here on the program and see 282 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 1: with us. Todd sure is oh okay? Hey left? The 283 00:16:09,400 --> 00:16:13,720 Speaker 1: biggest storyline going into the season is, oh, man, you 284 00:16:13,800 --> 00:16:17,400 Speaker 1: caught me in a whirlwind? Between Ben Simmons and Kyrie Irving. 285 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:23,120 Speaker 1: I feel like those are the two NBA seventy fifth 286 00:16:23,200 --> 00:16:27,200 Speaker 1: year anniversary that's the biggest one. But I think what's 287 00:16:27,240 --> 00:16:29,160 Speaker 1: going to happen to these two guys that are not 288 00:16:29,280 --> 00:16:32,760 Speaker 1: currently playing right now? Do the team even like him? 289 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,920 Speaker 1: In terms of Ben Simmons And in terms of Kyrie Irving, 290 00:16:35,960 --> 00:16:38,640 Speaker 1: does the team even need him? Those are the two 291 00:16:38,760 --> 00:16:42,440 Speaker 1: questions that I'm kind of thinking storyline wise, who would 292 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:48,880 Speaker 1: you rather interview between those two? Oh, Kyrie's going to 293 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:50,880 Speaker 1: take you to a place that you have no idea 294 00:16:50,920 --> 00:16:55,480 Speaker 1: where he's going. And I'm someone that does find it 295 00:16:56,160 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 1: somewhat entertaining Ben. It feels like a lot of angst, 296 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: a lot of anger, a lot of built up just frustration, 297 00:17:06,680 --> 00:17:08,119 Speaker 1: and I feel like it's going to be a lot 298 00:17:08,160 --> 00:17:09,960 Speaker 1: of no comments, so at least I can have a 299 00:17:09,960 --> 00:17:15,679 Speaker 1: conversation with Kyrie, which one is more salvageable Kyrie. I 300 00:17:15,800 --> 00:17:19,080 Speaker 1: think that when we would always have these stats last 301 00:17:19,119 --> 00:17:21,840 Speaker 1: year for MBA on TNT, how is this team with 302 00:17:22,200 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 1: Kyrie and Durant but no Harden, and how are they? 303 00:17:25,680 --> 00:17:28,359 Speaker 1: They were great? And so when you look at the 304 00:17:28,400 --> 00:17:32,760 Speaker 1: depth of this roster, I totally forgot Patty Mills, I know, 305 00:17:32,840 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: but they got Javon Carter two from feeding. They're very deep, 306 00:17:36,280 --> 00:17:39,200 Speaker 1: and James Harden played a lot of point guard last year, 307 00:17:39,600 --> 00:17:42,080 Speaker 1: and so I think that this Nets team could start 308 00:17:42,080 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: off really hot and then three four months in, possibly 309 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:49,919 Speaker 1: he gets the vaccine and joins them with Ben. He 310 00:17:50,040 --> 00:17:53,240 Speaker 1: is literally working out in a hooded sweatshirt with the 311 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:57,719 Speaker 1: sleeves cut off, wearing full pants to practice. He's not playing. 312 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:01,520 Speaker 1: We are watching a hold in instead of a hold out. 313 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 1: And I think that this is just posturing for a 314 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 1: possible trade. Who had a great offseason. I think the 315 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: fact that the Bucks resigned a lot of guys, they 316 00:18:16,040 --> 00:18:21,840 Speaker 1: got continuity in a league of constant change. I thought 317 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:25,119 Speaker 1: it was really well done for Boston to kind of 318 00:18:25,200 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: move a bunch of their pieces and retain their core 319 00:18:29,160 --> 00:18:32,320 Speaker 1: and still build around Tatum. I think I would have 320 00:18:32,359 --> 00:18:36,200 Speaker 1: said Phoenix, but this DeAndre Ayton not getting the Max, 321 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:40,840 Speaker 1: I think suddenly brings trouble in Paradise. But I think 322 00:18:40,880 --> 00:18:45,880 Speaker 1: also the Lakers and specifically Russell Westbrook to go from 323 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,480 Speaker 1: the Washington Wizards to the Lakers, what an off season 324 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,840 Speaker 1: for him? Really impressive. What is the game plan do 325 00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,000 Speaker 1: you think for the Lakers during the regular season? So 326 00:18:55,520 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: that was the best part of the Russell Westbrook moved 327 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,159 Speaker 1: by the Lakers. In my opinion is that Lebron is 328 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: now and he has been for the last few years, 329 00:19:05,200 --> 00:19:08,320 Speaker 1: a CEO that doesn't need to be in every meeting. 330 00:19:08,800 --> 00:19:11,919 Speaker 1: And I think when you heard the upset nature of 331 00:19:12,000 --> 00:19:16,359 Speaker 1: him with Jared Dudley leaving, he needed those generals to 332 00:19:16,520 --> 00:19:19,639 Speaker 1: keep the team motivated during the regular season. And I 333 00:19:19,680 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 1: don't think anyone does that better than Russell Westbrook. We 334 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:24,879 Speaker 1: heard it in Houston where he was on the plane 335 00:19:24,880 --> 00:19:27,080 Speaker 1: and they're waiting for Harden and then he goes to 336 00:19:27,200 --> 00:19:29,720 Speaker 1: Washington and all of a sudden, the team and Bradley 337 00:19:29,760 --> 00:19:34,520 Speaker 1: deal is focused. Lebron now has his general, his everyday 338 00:19:34,600 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: general to keep that team motivated during the regular season. 339 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:41,800 Speaker 1: We saw it last year, like they're okay, going for 340 00:19:41,880 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: the seven or eight seed if it means you know, 341 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,320 Speaker 1: resting Lebron a little bit. I think that they're going 342 00:19:47,400 --> 00:19:49,720 Speaker 1: to go for it all this year. I think that 343 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,959 Speaker 1: when you look at the West, I think the Sons 344 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:54,520 Speaker 1: are great, but I think it's unlikely that they have 345 00:19:54,720 --> 00:19:57,080 Speaker 1: a similar run back to back. It's just tough to 346 00:19:57,119 --> 00:19:59,239 Speaker 1: do that two years in a row. So I think 347 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: they're kind of going up against Utah to try and 348 00:20:02,320 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 1: win the regular season. But I think as long as 349 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:07,760 Speaker 1: they're in the top four, they're feeling good. But I 350 00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: really think Westbrook now is that day to day general 351 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 1: of the team. Who's the most overrated team? Oh overrated? 352 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:23,800 Speaker 1: I think, like I just said, I would just from 353 00:20:23,840 --> 00:20:26,919 Speaker 1: having watched sports a long time, it's probably unlikely that 354 00:20:27,000 --> 00:20:30,719 Speaker 1: Phoenix and Atlanta do what they did again. You know, 355 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: those just seemed like big runs motivated by a lot 356 00:20:34,600 --> 00:20:37,639 Speaker 1: of and there are so much opening in the West 357 00:20:37,720 --> 00:20:41,639 Speaker 1: with Kawai's injury and the Lakers injuries. I just I 358 00:20:41,680 --> 00:20:44,640 Speaker 1: think Phoenix is probably the team that people are penciling 359 00:20:44,640 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: into the finals that I just would I would bet 360 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,880 Speaker 1: against them. Who is underrated. I like the Utah Jazz, 361 00:20:53,640 --> 00:20:57,679 Speaker 1: and mainly because of conversations that we have had before 362 00:20:58,080 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 1: about Yeah, I get this with the Bucks in the 363 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:04,400 Speaker 1: regular season, but show me in the playoffs. And then 364 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,560 Speaker 1: it happened, and this happened with the Raptors a few 365 00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:11,040 Speaker 1: years ago. I'm not saying Rudy Gay is the guy, 366 00:21:11,280 --> 00:21:14,200 Speaker 1: the missing piece that brings us all together, because that's 367 00:21:14,280 --> 00:21:16,199 Speaker 1: just that's a good thing that I'm I'm glad you 368 00:21:16,240 --> 00:21:20,800 Speaker 1: didn't Okay, yeah, I hadn't your year three into loving 369 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:27,359 Speaker 1: the Utah Jazz. I too love the un I think 370 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 1: it was watching Rudy Gobert in the Olympics, and it 371 00:21:31,200 --> 00:21:34,960 Speaker 1: was watching him get brought into similar situations in the 372 00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:38,080 Speaker 1: playoffs where he's having to defend guards and he actually 373 00:21:38,200 --> 00:21:43,879 Speaker 1: did it. But look, I've mellow Olympic mellow messed me 374 00:21:43,960 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: up for a number of years. So I just I 375 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:51,240 Speaker 1: have to imagine that all of these years of getting 376 00:21:51,240 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 1: just absolutely swept in the playoffs. I don't know, man, 377 00:21:54,160 --> 00:21:56,720 Speaker 1: I'm I'm a sucker for Payne, you know, And so 378 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,440 Speaker 1: I think the Utah Jazz are are my tool this season. 379 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 1: Who's your finals pick? All right, I'll I'll be even 380 00:22:05,520 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: sicker because if it happens, I want credit. I'll put 381 00:22:08,000 --> 00:22:11,639 Speaker 1: the Jazz in there, and I'm going to put the 382 00:22:11,760 --> 00:22:15,720 Speaker 1: nets so it'll be Jazz versus Nets. The thing that 383 00:22:15,760 --> 00:22:17,920 Speaker 1: I'm thinking about tonight's game, which is a matchup for 384 00:22:17,960 --> 00:22:22,399 Speaker 1: the Eastern Conference Finals, Bucks Nets, is the one player 385 00:22:22,440 --> 00:22:27,159 Speaker 1: the Bucks didn't bring back is PJ Tucker. And I 386 00:22:27,240 --> 00:22:29,720 Speaker 1: know it's weird to read that PJ. Tucker was a 387 00:22:29,720 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: great defender against Kevin Durant when Kevin Durant had like 388 00:22:32,680 --> 00:22:36,840 Speaker 1: an all time game in games five and seven. But 389 00:22:37,640 --> 00:22:39,960 Speaker 1: the reason he was so big as it meant that 390 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:43,560 Speaker 1: Janis and Middleton didn't have to guard Durant, and so 391 00:22:43,640 --> 00:22:47,840 Speaker 1: it changed up their philosophies. And I just I'm looking 392 00:22:47,840 --> 00:22:50,320 Speaker 1: at the team right now and all I can think 393 00:22:50,359 --> 00:22:52,639 Speaker 1: about is if I went to Vegas, I'm putting my 394 00:22:52,760 --> 00:22:56,920 Speaker 1: number one bet is Durant's MVP. That's just the way 395 00:22:56,960 --> 00:22:59,840 Speaker 1: the season ended. Now he's got a full healthy offs 396 00:23:00,000 --> 00:23:02,520 Speaker 1: reason there's no Kyrie, so he's going to get credit 397 00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:06,439 Speaker 1: for like playing well without Kyrie. I just don't know 398 00:23:06,440 --> 00:23:09,120 Speaker 1: who stops him. So I would go Jazz nets. Why 399 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,359 Speaker 1: is it I can't release or cut that umbilical cord 400 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,560 Speaker 1: from the Golden State Warriors. Oh Like, Steph Curry's my 401 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,160 Speaker 1: number two pick for MVY. Yeah, I had him MVP 402 00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,480 Speaker 1: last year and I and you know, Klay Thompson's the 403 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,880 Speaker 1: missing ingredient. They got young players, they got some youth 404 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:28,840 Speaker 1: on there. I don't know if they have the magic 405 00:23:28,920 --> 00:23:31,920 Speaker 1: dust for one more run, but I'm kind of holding 406 00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:34,879 Speaker 1: on that they do. There are three teams that I 407 00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:38,240 Speaker 1: really really like, but injuries are what prevents me from 408 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: picking them long term. Kawhi with the Clippers, Jamal Murray 409 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 1: with the Nuggets, and Clay Thompson with the Warriors all 410 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,399 Speaker 1: expected back a few months into the season, and if 411 00:23:48,400 --> 00:23:50,240 Speaker 1: they were there the entire time, I just don't know 412 00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:55,560 Speaker 1: what I'm getting. And so I'm so excited to watch Curry, 413 00:23:55,720 --> 00:24:00,000 Speaker 1: Clay and Draymond And now with all of this wisdom, 414 00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:02,879 Speaker 1: I was reading about Draymond yesterday and how you know, 415 00:24:03,080 --> 00:24:05,240 Speaker 1: he used to be the guy that could talk to 416 00:24:05,280 --> 00:24:08,520 Speaker 1: the team and talk about like advanced mathematics when it 417 00:24:08,560 --> 00:24:11,160 Speaker 1: comes to NBA, and now all the young guys are 418 00:24:11,200 --> 00:24:13,720 Speaker 1: looking to him. And I love the fact that we're 419 00:24:13,720 --> 00:24:18,280 Speaker 1: going to get super veteran Clay Curry and Draymond. I 420 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:21,840 Speaker 1: just without Clay. They are a piece short, and I 421 00:24:21,840 --> 00:24:24,400 Speaker 1: don't know where we're going to get in January. It's 422 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,000 Speaker 1: great to talk to you. Have fun tonight and remember 423 00:24:27,440 --> 00:24:29,960 Speaker 1: what did you have for breakfast? Where are you going 424 00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:33,119 Speaker 1: later today? Where is that shirt made? Why are you 425 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:37,800 Speaker 1: wearing that sweater? It has seashells? Because you know, Milwaukee 426 00:24:37,960 --> 00:24:41,240 Speaker 1: is a beach town. Yeah, yeah, I take the kids there. 427 00:24:41,320 --> 00:24:43,040 Speaker 1: We used to. We used to take the kids there 428 00:24:43,080 --> 00:24:45,800 Speaker 1: for the summers. You know, it's you know, it's just that, 429 00:24:45,960 --> 00:24:47,520 Speaker 1: you know, if I can get a margarita on the 430 00:24:47,520 --> 00:24:50,760 Speaker 1: beach at Milwaukee, because I would say to the kids, 431 00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:55,960 Speaker 1: Milwaukee or disney World, and they go Milwaukee easy. Yeah. 432 00:24:56,880 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: Remember your role is John Stockton pass, Get the get 433 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:03,920 Speaker 1: the assist out, get the ball out quick. That's that's 434 00:25:03,920 --> 00:25:06,119 Speaker 1: your rapid fire question. No, you don't even have to 435 00:25:06,119 --> 00:25:08,720 Speaker 1: have a did John Stockton ever have a no? Look pass? 436 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 1: I just reveal that I'm not wearing You don't have 437 00:25:11,680 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: pants on? Do you? I would stand up and show no, no, no, no, no, no, 438 00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:22,760 Speaker 1: it's your best you don't. Yeah, I don't want to 439 00:25:22,800 --> 00:25:28,199 Speaker 1: see your left go in your right co I've referred 440 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:34,359 Speaker 1: to Thank you Bud, thank you Adam Leftco NBA on 441 00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:37,720 Speaker 1: TNT host and a man who's not wearing pants at 442 00:25:37,760 --> 00:25:40,479 Speaker 1: least in that interview. Thanks for listening to The Dan 443 00:25:40,560 --> 00:25:43,360 Speaker 1: Patrick Show podcast. 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That'll be a Thursday 460 00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: Night Football for Fox Amazon Prime in the NFL network, 461 00:26:46,720 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: Peter joining us on the program, Pete, the possibility of 462 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:56,200 Speaker 1: Derrick Henry winning the MVP is what strong national spotlight game. 463 00:26:56,480 --> 00:26:58,160 Speaker 1: I think he needed that. He's been doing it. He's 464 00:26:58,160 --> 00:27:00,439 Speaker 1: on pace to have one of the greatest running back 465 00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: seasons ever, and that's with a sixteen game season or 466 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,520 Speaker 1: a seventeen game season. But last night was big a 467 00:27:05,520 --> 00:27:07,680 Speaker 1: lot of times with the MVP and with these voting, 468 00:27:07,720 --> 00:27:09,840 Speaker 1: it's what you do on Monday and Sunday night when 469 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: the entire country is watching and you get that, oh okay, 470 00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:15,120 Speaker 1: the numbers are there. He's throwing his team on his back. 471 00:27:15,160 --> 00:27:16,560 Speaker 1: They're four and two. I think they're going to win 472 00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,640 Speaker 1: that division pretty handedly if they can stay healthy enough 473 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:23,600 Speaker 1: to win that division and he can break all these 474 00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,080 Speaker 1: records that it looks like he's on pace to do. 475 00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:27,320 Speaker 1: I think he's got to be considered in the conversation, 476 00:27:27,320 --> 00:27:29,280 Speaker 1: which is so fascinating because I don't know if there's 477 00:27:29,280 --> 00:27:31,560 Speaker 1: another running back in the league who's even in the 478 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,680 Speaker 1: conversation at the top twenty in the MVP right now. 479 00:27:35,119 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: When you look at Emma Smith's all time rushing record, 480 00:27:39,080 --> 00:27:43,680 Speaker 1: do you think that there's a running back. I don't 481 00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,960 Speaker 1: know if it's that's a record that's breakable, but if 482 00:27:46,960 --> 00:27:49,320 Speaker 1: you're going to try to handicap a running back, and 483 00:27:49,400 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: today's game is Derrick Henry, you know, the last that 484 00:27:53,800 --> 00:27:56,200 Speaker 1: we'll see they could come close to something like that. 485 00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: I think so, And we try to throw their names out, 486 00:27:58,560 --> 00:28:00,960 Speaker 1: like this offseason it was like, actually Chubb might be 487 00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:03,919 Speaker 1: Alvin Kamaro without breeze, and like it's just not like 488 00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 1: that McCaffrey can't stay healthy. These other guys aren't in 489 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,120 Speaker 1: the same conversation Henry does a year after year after 490 00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:12,120 Speaker 1: year after year. I said today on Good Morning Football, 491 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:15,359 Speaker 1: if he doesn't take another snap his entire NFL career, 492 00:28:15,400 --> 00:28:17,360 Speaker 1: he has a Hall of Fame argument to be made. 493 00:28:17,400 --> 00:28:19,760 Speaker 1: He's won the rushing title twice, he's characters team to 494 00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs twice, He's had big playoff moments in Baltimore 495 00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:25,000 Speaker 1: in New England, and what he's doing this season might 496 00:28:25,040 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: be his coup de grass. So I don't think there 497 00:28:27,080 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: will be another one like him, just the way these 498 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:30,520 Speaker 1: offenses are built and just the way that he's built. 499 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:33,840 Speaker 1: You know, Nashi Harris was the first running back taken 500 00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:35,719 Speaker 1: in this year's NFL draft. He's a nice player. He's 501 00:28:35,760 --> 00:28:37,760 Speaker 1: gonna have a great NFL career. Is he ever gonna 502 00:28:37,800 --> 00:28:39,840 Speaker 1: be Derrick Henry? No, I don't know if anyone will. 503 00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:41,360 Speaker 1: Just the way that they use him and the way 504 00:28:41,360 --> 00:28:43,560 Speaker 1: that he gets better and better at the season's go on. Yeah, 505 00:28:43,560 --> 00:28:46,120 Speaker 1: but I don't know. So you're saying Derrick Henry has 506 00:28:46,160 --> 00:28:49,840 Speaker 1: a Hall of Fame resume right now if his career ended. 507 00:28:50,640 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: I think so. He's the best of his generation. I 508 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:55,320 Speaker 1: think if you write the history of the NFL, who 509 00:28:55,360 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: was the best in his generation? Adrian Peterson's going to 510 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:01,440 Speaker 1: the Hall of Fame? Yeah, who's the next one? You 511 00:29:01,440 --> 00:29:02,960 Speaker 1: can't just say there's not gonna be a running back 512 00:29:02,960 --> 00:29:05,800 Speaker 1: for fifteen years and he's the guy. It's gonna be 513 00:29:05,840 --> 00:29:08,000 Speaker 1: a nice four year window, five year window in NFL 514 00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,120 Speaker 1: history where he's gonna be first team All Pro every year. 515 00:29:10,720 --> 00:29:12,320 Speaker 1: I could make the argument that if he never takes 516 00:29:12,320 --> 00:29:14,080 Speaker 1: a snap, he's in the conversation. Does he get in? 517 00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: I don't know if Terrell Davis gets in with six 518 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: seasons of great numbers, and what Derrick Henry's doing is 519 00:29:20,080 --> 00:29:22,600 Speaker 1: eclipsing all of that, except for the Super Bowl rings. 520 00:29:22,640 --> 00:29:25,080 Speaker 1: Of course, I think there's a conversation to be had 521 00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:26,880 Speaker 1: for Derrick Henry in the Hall of Fame. I was 522 00:29:26,920 --> 00:29:30,400 Speaker 1: wondering about Lamar Jackson because he doesn't have a running back, 523 00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: that maybe he is more valuable to his team than 524 00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:38,760 Speaker 1: any other player right now. Your thoughts on that absolutely, 525 00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: And what Lamar's doing this year is he's skinning the 526 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:45,240 Speaker 1: cat a little differently than twenty nineteen. He's throwing more, 527 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:48,880 Speaker 1: He's making plays without that great running back duo behind him, 528 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,480 Speaker 1: which at that year was obviously mark Ingram and Justice 529 00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,120 Speaker 1: Hill and all those guys that were there with him. 530 00:29:53,480 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 1: It is the Lamar Show on offense, and he's doing 531 00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: it without Nick Boyle, his top tight end who blocks 532 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,440 Speaker 1: for him, and with a bunch of receiver who have 533 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:03,840 Speaker 1: not really elevated their games yet. To me, right now, 534 00:30:03,960 --> 00:30:06,560 Speaker 1: the MVP it changes week, two week, week whatever. Right now, 535 00:30:06,600 --> 00:30:08,840 Speaker 1: if I was to cast my vote, I would have 536 00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,000 Speaker 1: a very hard time deciding between Derek Henry, Lamar Jackson, 537 00:30:13,040 --> 00:30:14,560 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna throw a third name in here that 538 00:30:14,680 --> 00:30:16,880 Speaker 1: might get a big hoot from the from the Dennets, 539 00:30:17,160 --> 00:30:19,840 Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr's in the conversation. Derek Carr is 540 00:30:19,880 --> 00:30:23,880 Speaker 1: having an outstanding season. They're four and two, and if 541 00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,800 Speaker 1: this team can do this without John Gruden as head 542 00:30:26,840 --> 00:30:29,080 Speaker 1: coach and with him not missing a beat and getting 543 00:30:29,480 --> 00:30:31,640 Speaker 1: the best out of this team, it's going to be 544 00:30:31,640 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: because of Derek Carr. I would keep an eye on 545 00:30:33,480 --> 00:30:35,680 Speaker 1: Derek Carterre's gonna be a lot of people watching these 546 00:30:35,720 --> 00:30:37,800 Speaker 1: Raiders over the next few weeks and if they don't 547 00:30:37,800 --> 00:30:47,720 Speaker 1: combust on. I can't put Derek Carr in front of 548 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:52,720 Speaker 1: Kyler Murray, can't you now? Now? Can I think you 549 00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:55,720 Speaker 1: need a nap? I've been up for a lot of hours. 550 00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:59,920 Speaker 1: I think Kyler's Kyler six, and oh he's in the conversation, 551 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:01,840 Speaker 1: and I you know, I wouldn't argue if he was 552 00:31:01,880 --> 00:31:04,600 Speaker 1: the MVP right now, but right now with all the 553 00:31:04,640 --> 00:31:07,360 Speaker 1: stuff that he's got going on with d Hop and 554 00:31:07,400 --> 00:31:10,680 Speaker 1: AJ Green and that great defense and JJ, I think 555 00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,040 Speaker 1: that's a collective effort right now, what Derek Carr is 556 00:31:13,120 --> 00:31:16,120 Speaker 1: doing in Las Vegas, with the burden that he'll have 557 00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:18,920 Speaker 1: on his shoulders moving forward, with the head coach being 558 00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,440 Speaker 1: replaced in the fashion that he was. I think they're there. 559 00:31:21,520 --> 00:31:24,520 Speaker 1: I love doing this. This is Classics Sports Radio. There's 560 00:31:24,520 --> 00:31:27,480 Speaker 1: an argument that could be made without me saying he 561 00:31:27,720 --> 00:31:32,520 Speaker 1: is the MVP. The Bills getting off the hook here 562 00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,400 Speaker 1: with what happened last night. You know, they they I 563 00:31:36,440 --> 00:31:38,280 Speaker 1: think a lot of everybody thought they were gonna win 564 00:31:38,320 --> 00:31:42,360 Speaker 1: this game. I was one of them. Yeah, um, is 565 00:31:42,360 --> 00:31:44,400 Speaker 1: there a bit of hoopris with this Bill's team that 566 00:31:44,440 --> 00:31:46,880 Speaker 1: they beat the Chiefs and they're like, all right, it's done, 567 00:31:47,080 --> 00:31:49,800 Speaker 1: let's call it a season. Were good, like they look 568 00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: good last night. The defense though, got some humble pie. 569 00:31:52,120 --> 00:31:54,680 Speaker 1: I think we were riding high on that Bill's defense 570 00:31:54,720 --> 00:31:57,760 Speaker 1: off of shutouts against you know, teams like Miami and 571 00:31:57,840 --> 00:32:00,480 Speaker 1: teams like Houston and then beating up on Washington, which 572 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,800 Speaker 1: we've seen. But I thought that Chiefs game was like 573 00:32:03,080 --> 00:32:05,800 Speaker 1: a major moment in this Bill's franchise history, like we're 574 00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:09,520 Speaker 1: gonna quit figuratively and literally, like leap over the Chiefs, 575 00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:11,120 Speaker 1: which they did and Josh Allen had that jump, but 576 00:32:11,160 --> 00:32:14,160 Speaker 1: then to fall the very next week with all the 577 00:32:14,200 --> 00:32:16,040 Speaker 1: people saying the Bills are the best team in football, 578 00:32:16,080 --> 00:32:18,840 Speaker 1: the second you finally crown the Bills, they have this 579 00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,040 Speaker 1: loss where the Titans were all sorts of banged up, 580 00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:24,400 Speaker 1: the Titans. They were down ten late and they still 581 00:32:24,400 --> 00:32:26,240 Speaker 1: found a way to win. It's not a good one 582 00:32:26,280 --> 00:32:28,160 Speaker 1: for the Bills. He certainly don't walk away going into 583 00:32:28,160 --> 00:32:30,479 Speaker 1: the by saying, oh, I feel great about Buffalo, and 584 00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:35,680 Speaker 1: yet their upcoming opponents Jaguars, Dolphins, Jets, Colts, they'll be fine. 585 00:32:36,080 --> 00:32:39,600 Speaker 1: He's Peter Schreger, co host of NFL networks Good Morning Football. 586 00:32:41,080 --> 00:32:44,000 Speaker 1: You start to look at contenders and those who are 587 00:32:44,000 --> 00:32:48,320 Speaker 1: not contenders. The Lions. Dan Campbell called out Jared Goff, 588 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:51,760 Speaker 1: says he's gonna shake things up. It's a team that's winless. 589 00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:54,280 Speaker 1: You've got golf going back to the Rams. Could you 590 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:58,160 Speaker 1: see Jared Goff being benched for that game? Because nobody 591 00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: knows Jared Goff the way the Ams no Jared Goff. 592 00:33:02,000 --> 00:33:05,560 Speaker 1: Could you see Dan Campbell making a quarterbacking change going 593 00:33:05,600 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: into that game this week? I made the joke on 594 00:33:09,080 --> 00:33:11,920 Speaker 1: Good Morning Football. It's like when Brady went back to 595 00:33:12,200 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: New England. You know the folks at NBC did the 596 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,920 Speaker 1: Adele video. What are you doing with Jared Goff going 597 00:33:16,960 --> 00:33:20,320 Speaker 1: back to LA like you wuld have something for it. 598 00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:23,680 Speaker 1: It's the opposite of Hello, It might be goodbye. No, 599 00:33:23,880 --> 00:33:27,280 Speaker 1: He's gonna play. I'd be shocked if Campbell did anything. 600 00:33:27,280 --> 00:33:28,440 Speaker 1: I think that was a little bit of a rattle 601 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: your cage. But I watched that whole press conference. There 602 00:33:31,360 --> 00:33:33,720 Speaker 1: were about ten questions about Golf in which he was 603 00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:36,120 Speaker 1: supporting him, supporting it. Finally he relented and he's like, yes, 604 00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,440 Speaker 1: he needs to step up, but everyone needs to step up. 605 00:33:38,600 --> 00:33:41,640 Speaker 1: The talent deficiency on that roster compared to other teams 606 00:33:41,640 --> 00:33:44,400 Speaker 1: in the league is vast. I'm not making any excuses 607 00:33:44,440 --> 00:33:47,160 Speaker 1: for Jared Golf. He's never won a game without McVeigh. 608 00:33:47,320 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 1: It would be great for him to shock the world 609 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,240 Speaker 1: and get one here, but he's not likely going to 610 00:33:52,280 --> 00:33:54,440 Speaker 1: do that. It's gonna be a rough season for the Lions. 611 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 1: I think they knew that. I don't know if I'm 612 00:33:56,800 --> 00:33:59,360 Speaker 1: all four and I can't control a man's emotions. But 613 00:33:59,720 --> 00:34:03,080 Speaker 1: when you cry on the podium in week five and 614 00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,840 Speaker 1: then the team loses twenty seven to nothing at home 615 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 1: to the Bengals the following week, you've got to place 616 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,880 Speaker 1: yourself now. Okay, So now, Dan Campbell, it's week six, 617 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,160 Speaker 1: We're going into Week seven. I would imagine they get 618 00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,240 Speaker 1: blown out against the Rams. That's going to be Stafford 619 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:18,640 Speaker 1: looking to make a statement, how do you handle the 620 00:34:18,680 --> 00:34:20,440 Speaker 1: next ten weeks? And I want to see what kind 621 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:22,719 Speaker 1: of fortitude not only golf, but the head coach has 622 00:34:22,760 --> 00:34:25,680 Speaker 1: to get through this thing because you could cry once, 623 00:34:25,719 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: you can maybe cry twice three times. Then you might 624 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,600 Speaker 1: lose the team with that kind of stuff. So we'll see. 625 00:34:31,640 --> 00:34:34,200 Speaker 1: He's a ball of emotion, the coach, the quarterback is 626 00:34:34,280 --> 00:34:36,399 Speaker 1: going through it right now. Would love to see them 627 00:34:36,400 --> 00:34:38,160 Speaker 1: fight in this game on Sunday. I'm just not sure 628 00:34:38,200 --> 00:34:41,799 Speaker 1: I see it. It feels like everything's good with Jacksonville. 629 00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:45,480 Speaker 1: They gotta win. Nobody's talking about urban Meyer right. Kind 630 00:34:45,520 --> 00:34:49,319 Speaker 1: of survived the storm here. There were some other news 631 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:51,359 Speaker 1: last week, and I think everyone looked at the urban 632 00:34:51,360 --> 00:34:53,440 Speaker 1: Meyer situation and said, all right, we're moving on to 633 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: a different topic. And I say that flippantly. It was 634 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:59,280 Speaker 1: a terrible week for the NFL. It was a horrific 635 00:34:59,320 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 1: week for the NF though. But Jacksonville they got out 636 00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 1: of town. Well that was all going on in our 637 00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 1: network and on your network, and everyone was dealing with 638 00:35:05,880 --> 00:35:08,240 Speaker 1: the fallout of what was a chilling, chilling few days. 639 00:35:08,680 --> 00:35:12,040 Speaker 1: Jacksonville left the country. Urban Meyer news kind of faded 640 00:35:12,080 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: to the background, and they focused on winning a football 641 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:15,799 Speaker 1: game that they probably had no right winning. At the end, 642 00:35:15,840 --> 00:35:18,319 Speaker 1: there there are some defensive questions on Miami, and then 643 00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,919 Speaker 1: the Jaguars soul one there and now they come back 644 00:35:21,440 --> 00:35:23,799 Speaker 1: and it's like, Okay, let's get above water. We got 645 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,560 Speaker 1: the buy, let's come out of this thing, and we'll 646 00:35:25,560 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: see what we can do. But I don't think anyone's 647 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,320 Speaker 1: calling for urban Meyer's head right now, and I certainly 648 00:35:32,120 --> 00:35:34,759 Speaker 1: don't think that that that franchise is collapsing by any 649 00:35:34,760 --> 00:35:37,280 Speaker 1: means under urban Meyer, whether what happened in Columbus, Ohio 650 00:35:37,400 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: or not. Aaron Rodgers with his shout out to the 651 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:43,000 Speaker 1: Bears fans, it's almost like it felt like Aaron was 652 00:35:43,040 --> 00:35:45,520 Speaker 1: playing the role of victim, Like you guys yelled at 653 00:35:45,560 --> 00:35:48,359 Speaker 1: me and flipped me off, and I'm gonna yell back 654 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,240 Speaker 1: at you. What do you make of Aaron Rodgers owning 655 00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears comment? It was something, huh, I get 656 00:35:54,480 --> 00:35:57,000 Speaker 1: that as like his like his farewell moment, you know, 657 00:35:57,000 --> 00:35:58,440 Speaker 1: that was like his walk off. I don't think he's 658 00:35:58,440 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 1: gonna necessarily play in that building as a division rival 659 00:36:01,800 --> 00:36:03,759 Speaker 1: moving forward. So that was kind of maybe the last one. 660 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,799 Speaker 1: But what was funny was Kyle Branton our show was like, 661 00:36:05,840 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: you know, it might be a straw man. I don't 662 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:10,000 Speaker 1: know if anyone actually was giving him the middle finger. 663 00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,160 Speaker 1: And then we got a thousand tweets from Bears, from 664 00:36:12,200 --> 00:36:14,319 Speaker 1: Packers fans of like a million Bears fans giving him 665 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:18,440 Speaker 1: the middle finger. I guess they were, absolutely were. I 666 00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:20,279 Speaker 1: guess he got caught up in the emotion of that thing. 667 00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:22,920 Speaker 1: I have no problem with it, and I don't love 668 00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:24,719 Speaker 1: that kind of stuff a lot of times, but the 669 00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:26,920 Speaker 1: nature of that history, of that rivalry and the respect 670 00:36:26,920 --> 00:36:29,279 Speaker 1: that he has shown some of those Bears players over 671 00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:31,319 Speaker 1: the years, whether it be Erlak or Peanut or Lance 672 00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,680 Speaker 1: Briggs earlier in the weeks saying THO guys should be 673 00:36:33,680 --> 00:36:36,160 Speaker 1: a Hall of famers. I kind of liked it. It 674 00:36:36,280 --> 00:36:37,960 Speaker 1: was such a play, it was such a moment. It 675 00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: was raw emotion, something we don't always get from these guys. Yeah. 676 00:36:42,000 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: The other topic that I found interesting, and you know 677 00:36:44,320 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: how this goes, Pete, It goes week to week where 678 00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 1: Jimmy Johnson says, hey, I would take Justin Herbert over 679 00:36:50,719 --> 00:36:54,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes on the Fox pregame show. It opened the 680 00:36:54,040 --> 00:36:57,160 Speaker 1: door for everybody to go, I'd take Justin Herbert over Patrick. 681 00:36:57,239 --> 00:37:02,239 Speaker 1: I go, what what just happened? What happened? Like all 682 00:37:02,239 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 1: of a sudden, everybody has decided that they're off the 683 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes bandwagon. Then he throws a couple of picks 684 00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,360 Speaker 1: against Washington. You know the vitriol there, you know Twitter 685 00:37:11,480 --> 00:37:14,799 Speaker 1: just like yeap, yeah, he's washed. Oh my god, they're 686 00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:17,160 Speaker 1: stuck with that contract now with Patrick. That was the 687 00:37:17,160 --> 00:37:19,680 Speaker 1: craziest one. All the contract experts came out of the 688 00:37:19,719 --> 00:37:21,759 Speaker 1: woodwork on Twitter and they're like, look at what they're 689 00:37:21,760 --> 00:37:24,160 Speaker 1: stuck with, almost making this argument that like they would 690 00:37:24,520 --> 00:37:26,640 Speaker 1: they would undo that contract if they could. And I 691 00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:30,319 Speaker 1: shouldn't be so dismissive of it because they've been really 692 00:37:30,360 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: sloppy this year and he's got eight interceptions. He had 693 00:37:33,680 --> 00:37:35,879 Speaker 1: six all last year. And some of these interceptions are 694 00:37:35,920 --> 00:37:37,880 Speaker 1: not on him, and his mother will tell you that 695 00:37:37,920 --> 00:37:41,839 Speaker 1: over Twitter, and some of them are. But then something 696 00:37:41,880 --> 00:37:44,080 Speaker 1: happened with about three minutes left in the third quarter, 697 00:37:44,239 --> 00:37:46,480 Speaker 1: he has that touchdown to Tyreek And if you watched 698 00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:48,719 Speaker 1: the final I know it's the it's Washington, but if 699 00:37:48,719 --> 00:37:50,719 Speaker 1: you watched the final eighteen minutes of that game, it 700 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 1: looked like the Chiefs of old and they just absolutely 701 00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:55,480 Speaker 1: lit it up. They went from having ten points to 702 00:37:55,560 --> 00:37:58,520 Speaker 1: finishing with thirty one. Mahomes could not be stopped. Tyreek 703 00:37:58,600 --> 00:38:01,080 Speaker 1: Hill and Kelsey did whatever they want, and it was 704 00:38:01,120 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: like a little taste of like, don't count us out 705 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:07,000 Speaker 1: just yet. And in the same week where we see 706 00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: the Chargers get humbled a bit, we see the Bills 707 00:38:09,880 --> 00:38:12,560 Speaker 1: get humbled a bit. Chiefs are right behind them. They're 708 00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:14,439 Speaker 1: three and three in, they're lurking. It's the last team 709 00:38:14,440 --> 00:38:16,640 Speaker 1: I would want to face in the playoffs, especially that quarterback. 710 00:38:17,120 --> 00:38:21,640 Speaker 1: Rams are the Chargers all in Rams, Rams. There's a 711 00:38:21,680 --> 00:38:24,600 Speaker 1: pressure for the Rams this year that it's like, this 712 00:38:24,680 --> 00:38:26,799 Speaker 1: is why we are trading feature first round picks, this 713 00:38:26,920 --> 00:38:29,200 Speaker 1: is why we went out and got this guy. Anything 714 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 1: short of that run is a letdown for the Chargers. 715 00:38:32,200 --> 00:38:33,719 Speaker 1: I think this is a bit of a house money year. 716 00:38:33,760 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 1: You've got a young quarterback on a rookie contract and 717 00:38:36,200 --> 00:38:38,440 Speaker 1: a first year head coach. If they make the playoffs, 718 00:38:38,480 --> 00:38:40,200 Speaker 1: that's a great season for the Chargers. I don't think 719 00:38:40,200 --> 00:38:42,759 Speaker 1: any let's talking actual super Bowl right now. Maybe they 720 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: get there, but the Rams, I think it would be 721 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:48,560 Speaker 1: a disappointment if they didn't make that game. But imagine 722 00:38:48,560 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: what a Super Bowl would do for Matthew Stafford's career. Yeah, 723 00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:57,160 Speaker 1: Like matt Ryan at at least has an MVP. Yeah, 724 00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,239 Speaker 1: and he had the appearance in the Super Bowl, and 725 00:39:00,680 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: what it would do moving forward. That's two years in 726 00:39:04,120 --> 00:39:07,359 Speaker 1: a row that a team said screw it, let's go 727 00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,400 Speaker 1: get the guy. Like, let's go get the guy, whoever 728 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,239 Speaker 1: it may be. Let's go make a way to happen 729 00:39:12,320 --> 00:39:14,319 Speaker 1: next year. I think there's gonna be a lot of 730 00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:17,799 Speaker 1: conversations about Russell Wilson. It all stems from your very 731 00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,280 Speaker 1: show last year, but it did give a little window 732 00:39:20,280 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: into Russell's mindset and Aaron Rodgers and de Shaun Watson 733 00:39:24,560 --> 00:39:27,719 Speaker 1: go get the guy. It works. That's what Tampa Bay did, 734 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:29,640 Speaker 1: and that is what the Rams did, and they were 735 00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:31,920 Speaker 1: significantly better right out of the gates because of an 736 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: upgrade at the most important position. I think a would 737 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:38,600 Speaker 1: help redefine his career, obviously, and it would redefine the 738 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,439 Speaker 1: way we look at at Matthew Stafford's entire thirteen years 739 00:39:42,440 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 1: in the NFL, but it would also redefine the way 740 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: you look at an offseason. Yes, built through the draft, 741 00:39:46,880 --> 00:39:48,600 Speaker 1: but if you can go get your guy at quarterback, 742 00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:50,640 Speaker 1: go get them. Okay, more likely to be on a 743 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:53,960 Speaker 1: different team next year. Russell Wilson or Aaron Rodgers. I 744 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:57,439 Speaker 1: think Aaron Rodgers. I think Aaron Rodgers. I think just 745 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,359 Speaker 1: the way that thing just kind of we limped into 746 00:39:59,400 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: the regular seat with one of these deals, where like, 747 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:05,239 Speaker 1: all right, let's see what happens. I don't know how 748 00:40:05,239 --> 00:40:07,040 Speaker 1: this ends up for either one of these guys. And 749 00:40:07,760 --> 00:40:09,640 Speaker 1: I know Mike Florio is big on the Hey, if 750 00:40:09,719 --> 00:40:11,839 Speaker 1: Russell was upset last year with what they did, he's 751 00:40:11,840 --> 00:40:14,319 Speaker 1: certainly going to be upset this year with what's going on. 752 00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:17,320 Speaker 1: I just think it's a little trickier with the contract 753 00:40:17,360 --> 00:40:20,000 Speaker 1: with Russell and with Rogers, there is an exit plan, 754 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,120 Speaker 1: and there's Jordan Love and there's almost a wedding of 755 00:40:23,160 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: the appetite with the Packers fan base said, Hey, this 756 00:40:25,600 --> 00:40:27,440 Speaker 1: might be the last ride. The Russell thing would be 757 00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:30,000 Speaker 1: a really abrupt change for Seattle. Yeah. I don't think 758 00:40:30,080 --> 00:40:33,280 Speaker 1: Russ ends his career there. I don't know. I would 759 00:40:33,280 --> 00:40:36,279 Speaker 1: be surprised if he's there next year, really surprised. You 760 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:38,359 Speaker 1: would say, you have a fifty percent chance, you'd say 761 00:40:38,400 --> 00:40:40,680 Speaker 1: it's a greater chance he's not there. Now. Well, let's 762 00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:44,439 Speaker 1: say they don't make the playoffs. Yeah, I don't know. 763 00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:48,080 Speaker 1: At some point Russ wants to Russ is looking at 764 00:40:48,080 --> 00:40:50,680 Speaker 1: his legacy. I think you have to go back to that. 765 00:40:51,160 --> 00:40:52,839 Speaker 1: You know, a couple of days after the Super Bowl, 766 00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:55,480 Speaker 1: when he came on, he saw Brady still being Brady, 767 00:40:55,760 --> 00:40:58,160 Speaker 1: and he saw Patrick Mahomes in the Super Bowl and 768 00:40:58,280 --> 00:41:03,200 Speaker 1: probably says what about me? Like he's now thinking bigger picture, 769 00:41:03,480 --> 00:41:06,440 Speaker 1: what's my legacy going to be? He's not winning anything 770 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:11,040 Speaker 1: in Seattle, and I think everybody Brady opened everybody's eyes 771 00:41:11,080 --> 00:41:13,960 Speaker 1: to quarterback empowerment. And I think that's where Russ said, 772 00:41:14,000 --> 00:41:15,799 Speaker 1: I want to have a say. I want to be 773 00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,719 Speaker 1: able to say who we're going to draft or bring in. 774 00:41:17,760 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 1: What Aaron Rodgers wanted to have a say, Deshaun Watson 775 00:41:20,760 --> 00:41:23,759 Speaker 1: wanted to have a say. I think Russ just said, hey, 776 00:41:24,000 --> 00:41:25,839 Speaker 1: is Ambay gonna listen to me? That's why I think 777 00:41:25,880 --> 00:41:28,000 Speaker 1: he was shouting from the mountaintops when he came on. 778 00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:32,080 Speaker 1: I don't think anything's gotten, anything's different, you know, same 779 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,840 Speaker 1: head coach, same GM, same philosophy. I just get feeling 780 00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:38,640 Speaker 1: russ is going to go. I got to win another 781 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,480 Speaker 1: championship here, I've only got one. I want. I want 782 00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:43,719 Speaker 1: to be one of the greats of all time. He's 783 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:45,680 Speaker 1: got two of the best receivers in the sport, he's 784 00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: got an offensive coordinator that he helped hand pick, and 785 00:41:48,840 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 1: he is mister Seattle if he stays there forever, I mean, 786 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,360 Speaker 1: that is his city forever, and it's where it is 787 00:41:53,560 --> 00:41:59,399 Speaker 1: I know. But they're not gonna win. It's it's going 788 00:41:59,400 --> 00:42:02,080 Speaker 1: to be tough. And when you give Jamal Adams all 789 00:42:02,120 --> 00:42:04,359 Speaker 1: that money and you trade your next two first round 790 00:42:04,360 --> 00:42:07,600 Speaker 1: picks for a safety, it doesn't help Russell Wilson's cause 791 00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:09,359 Speaker 1: in any way of saying, hey, we got this much 792 00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:12,680 Speaker 1: better this offseason. Thursday Night, it's Browns and the Broncos 793 00:42:12,760 --> 00:42:19,000 Speaker 1: on that note, got injuries. Everybody's got injuries. How much 794 00:42:19,000 --> 00:42:22,279 Speaker 1: pressure is on Baker Mayfield this year? It's on And 795 00:42:22,360 --> 00:42:24,759 Speaker 1: it's the contract extension looming because where do you peg 796 00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,600 Speaker 1: him night? Wouldn't you give him a contract extend? Would 797 00:42:27,600 --> 00:42:29,520 Speaker 1: you give him forty five million dollars a year? I 798 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 1: would wait, I would wait to see what we get 799 00:42:31,800 --> 00:42:34,200 Speaker 1: this season. If you're if you're missing the playoffs and 800 00:42:34,200 --> 00:42:36,200 Speaker 1: Baker's out there, then what are we getting for that money? 801 00:42:36,200 --> 00:42:37,880 Speaker 1: And maybe it's time to move on. But like the 802 00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: Jets knew they weren't doing anything with Sam Darnold, they 803 00:42:40,520 --> 00:42:42,120 Speaker 1: ripped the band aid off. They said, let's get something 804 00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 1: for him. The Browns, I think a lot of people 805 00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,840 Speaker 1: thought they would sign him to a deal similar to 806 00:42:45,920 --> 00:42:48,680 Speaker 1: Josh Allen after last year's playoff run or you know, 807 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:51,319 Speaker 1: but they haven't. So they're waiting. They're seeing how this 808 00:42:51,320 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 1: thing plays out. And I think Thursday night, if he plays, 809 00:42:53,680 --> 00:42:56,600 Speaker 1: it's as tough as nails for him the play But gosh, 810 00:42:56,640 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 1: it's a long season. I don't think it's the craziest 811 00:42:58,680 --> 00:43:00,719 Speaker 1: thing to say, Hey, let keen him have one here 812 00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,960 Speaker 1: on the short week and then I'll get back in afterwards. 813 00:43:03,440 --> 00:43:06,800 Speaker 1: We'll see how it plays out. Though, Yeah, you're supposed 814 00:43:06,800 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 1: to build up the hype for Thursday night football do 815 00:43:09,560 --> 00:43:11,400 Speaker 1: or die? Both these teams. I think that's good. I 816 00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:13,319 Speaker 1: don't need Baker out there. Give me a team that's 817 00:43:13,320 --> 00:43:15,400 Speaker 1: playing for everything. Both these teams have hit the skids 818 00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:18,200 Speaker 1: the last few weeks. They need it. How's that for hunt? Okay, Now, 819 00:43:18,200 --> 00:43:21,360 Speaker 1: I'm watching now, I'm going to watch that game case 820 00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:26,600 Speaker 1: Keenum Cheddy Bridgewater case, Keenum Revenge game. Yeah, but there's 821 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,279 Speaker 1: a few of those. Case has been on a few 822 00:43:28,320 --> 00:43:31,800 Speaker 1: teams ever. Thank you, Pete. Safe travels this week. Always 823 00:43:31,800 --> 00:43:33,920 Speaker 1: great to catch up with you. Great catching up in 824 00:43:33,960 --> 00:43:37,000 Speaker 1: one name for you an NBA player, Paul millsap a net. 825 00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:41,600 Speaker 1: I had no idea. Thank you, Peter Paul Millson