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Speaker 1: The champ.

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Speaker 2: How you feeling nice of that guy that's.

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Speaker 3: Ready? Yeah, I'm ready, I'm prepared.

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Speaker 4: I want it.

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Speaker 1: So many big fights in his career, where does this

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Speaker 1: from stack up with all the fights that he's had.

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Speaker 2: That sciantra moment, I wanted to following them into going,

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Speaker 4: Something for a title for a guy who's been talking

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Speaker 4: a lot.

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Speaker 2: It's a great fight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, speaking of talking right, Iliot had a lot to

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Speaker 1: say about the fight. He said for Charles to bring

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Speaker 1: a pillow because he thinks that he's going to uh

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Speaker 1: knock him out in the first round. Like what does

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Speaker 1: Charles think when you hear stuff like that?

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Speaker 4: The best sassa ja as this this.

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Speaker 2: Art be a contest. You've seen this a lot.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, talk a lot and then talk up at the

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Speaker 4: game and then like the go to face you up there?

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Speaker 5: What happens?

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Speaker 1: Like, so he's fought a lot of powerful guys, but

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Speaker 1: can he look at Ilia and in his boxing, can

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Speaker 1: he find the style that really does prepare him for

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Speaker 1: a guy and also the confidence of him being undefeated,

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Speaker 1: I think is what guides Iliot too.

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Speaker 4: Forts New Boxy Daily community contrasts. But because she will

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Speaker 4: do this progacive and say.

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Speaker 5: To me, maybe.

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Speaker 6: That you walk, you'll take to Len's normal box onto

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Speaker 6: as good as enemies of finished. But h I speak

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Speaker 6: to you, my gi doo. He's gonna put focus on

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Speaker 6: as as possible and say.

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Speaker 4: Scott Michael Chandler obviously got a lot of firepower that

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Speaker 4: the boy hits really hard and those sort of hits.

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Speaker 4: So and I faced a lot of different guys. If

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Speaker 4: I faced guys with all different kinds of styles, I

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Speaker 4: didn't notice that that I can. I can I confront

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Speaker 4: I confront him. The the UFC knows that they put

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Speaker 4: me in this place because I can actually stop them.

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Speaker 5: I believe in this firepower that I have. He thinks

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Speaker 5: he's gonna knock him up if I don't come to you.

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Speaker 5: Can you take a post for this? I think most

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Speaker 5: I believe I can do this. I have the firepower

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Speaker 5: in my hands.

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Speaker 1: Isn't it amazing that on multiple occasions he has done this?

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Speaker 1: But time and time again people question Charles dubroncs solo era,

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Speaker 1: how does he handle that and how motivating is it

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Speaker 1: for him to continuously kind of shut people down and

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Speaker 4: No, impress the same phase questions, it's kum, I have

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Speaker 6: Quantum Okay, anything that quantumized it is fallow a new

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Speaker 6: posse might is we got to prove the posse. Why

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Speaker 6: don't you start, Trice? And if we just about it,

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Speaker 6: Academy of All and the Chanel while can you I

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Speaker 5: It's really good. The more they talk about it, the

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Speaker 5: more I love to prove them wrong. And I can

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Speaker 5: do it.

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Speaker 4: Like listen, look at it doesn't matter what they said.

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Speaker 5: Look at where I was back at the day. I

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Speaker 4: I used to put to live in the back of

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Speaker 1: You know, does Chowles prefer this type of build to

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Speaker 1: Before we get into that. Before we get into this.

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Speaker 1: So I read this, I put this down in the notes.

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Speaker 1: It wasn't moving, so you don't have to worry about

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Speaker 1: getting boats that are falling off. The fights from Fluquet.

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Speaker 1: My teammates have to come on the cruise ship and

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Speaker 1: watching the fight. I was fighting a Filipino fighter and

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Speaker 1: it was funny because all the workers on the cruise

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Speaker 1: ship were Filipino. They all came out of the kitchen

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Speaker 1: and came out when we were fighting. It felt like

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Speaker 1: I was fighting Manny Pacquiao in the Philippines.

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Speaker 5: But I ended up winning.

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Speaker 1: It was less than thirty seconds to fight, and then

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Speaker 1: we got the party on the boat for two days.

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Speaker 3: What in the world is that, Doug, You were fighting

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it's fine. It was like a movie.

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Speaker 7: Like really, I can see my opponent. When I first

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Speaker 7: I was like, bro, we're gonna fight first about about

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Speaker 2: So what was he doing?

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Speaker 7: I could just see it in his face. He was

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Speaker 7: not there's the craziest. So overnight we flew to Malaysia,

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Speaker 7: So I took about I don't know five hours to

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Speaker 7: So I wasn't moving and then on the top deck

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Speaker 1: Like people are like, well, it's just like normal people

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so they were poored and they didn't leave.

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Speaker 3: Yet and they watched all fight.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, they're all just in the pool hanging out and

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Speaker 7: And then I said we're walking. And then I think

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Speaker 5: You must had a great time.

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Speaker 1: It was like a vacation to fight in a vacation.

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Speaker 7: It was I think twenty seconds the whole fight. I

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Speaker 5: So that's amazing.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was pretty cool bucket list.

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Speaker 1: So the last fight, right, you fought on that cruise ship.

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Speaker 1: You probably fought all over the place to get to

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Speaker 1: where you are today. We're in Australia. You're fighting Steve Versaig,

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Speaker 1: who's a tremendous boxer. You hit him bang, put him

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Speaker 5: What did it feel like like this was.

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Speaker 7: His hometown, Like New Zealand and Australia. We're seeing there's one,

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Speaker 7: but when we're fighting each other, it's it's a rivalry. Yeah,

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Speaker 7: and it's the shots you don't see coming that hurt you.

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Speaker 7: And he didn't see it coming. He didn't adjust for

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Speaker 7: You know, I've done this so many times now, I

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Speaker 7: know when I saw he was wobbling, and I knew, okay,

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Speaker 7: I just need to rush the sky now he wants

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Speaker 7: the way out. And then the ref saw seen enough

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Speaker 7: when I landed that right hand and he just shelled up.

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Speaker 7: And yeah, it was just perfect kind of welcome, welcome

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Speaker 1: You were in the octagon after and I'm interviewing you. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: and I said, boy, a left hand, because very few

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Speaker 1: And you said, I'm MILDI bro, and the place went

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Speaker 7: I didn't realize how big that was until I went

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Speaker 7: back home, saying, yeah, that when superviral and really it

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Speaker 7: on the Zellen and everywhere I went. You know, it

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Speaker 7: same time, and just going like I was speaking my truth.

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Speaker 7: I didn't rehearse any of that when you told me

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Speaker 7: when he asked me that question, No, none of that

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Speaker 7: was rehearsed.

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Speaker 5: I was just going off of how I felt the emotion.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, just emotion you know who I am. I don't

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Speaker 7: I don't shy away from being emotional and in my

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Speaker 7: And yeah, I was just being open and honest. So

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Speaker 7: when I said that and I went back home, man,

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Speaker 7: so many people coming up to me. They didn't wash

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Speaker 7: the fight. They just saw that and they said, really,

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Speaker 7: you don't know how much you've done for your people.

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Speaker 7: And just knowing that you're able to change someone's I

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Speaker 3: It is me.

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Speaker 1: This weekend, you have another opportunity to defend that championship

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Speaker 5: That was a long time ago.

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Speaker 1: Is there anything you can take from that fight?

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Speaker 1: Just completely different fighters and you have to prepare yourself

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Speaker 3: It doesn't matter who you're fighting, it's fifty fifth all

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Speaker 3: And I have this opportunity in the International Fighter Week,

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Speaker 3: And that's what I want, you know, I want that

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Speaker 1: You have beaten so many guys. As I said earlier,

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Speaker 3: That's something very nice to have. You know, I gave

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Speaker 3: You know, I give this opportunity for everybody in the

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Speaker 3: now you're gonna fight to the Revolt. If he passed

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Speaker 3: so nice to have that, you know, that's my last fight,

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Speaker 5: Another guy that yeah, and fight forward to me.

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Speaker 3: And then guys bring you as a kuda and I

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Speaker 3: very proud of myself, my team. Everybody worked very hard

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Speaker 1: You and I sat in the APEX one time. I

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Speaker 5: Was it?

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Speaker 1: Did you beat manel Cop already? It was that close fight, right,

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Speaker 1: you had a close fight. You beat maniel Cop and

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Speaker 1: you called for a title fight. Brandon Moreno was sitting

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Speaker 1: you ultimately finally got that title shot. But now you're

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Speaker 1: come on, I'll fight you with with everybody, Like I mean,

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Speaker 5: Sure, you fought everybody.

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Speaker 1: It was this guy and then how many fights did

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Speaker 1: Now guys getting title fights after one? Did you are

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Speaker 1: you do you understand I don't really want to make

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Speaker 3: That's nice, you know, that'sh I want to fight with

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Speaker 3: the new guys, of course, But what I think right now,

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Speaker 3: for the belts. That's what I think. Uh Ka Kara

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Speaker 3: Fince putting his position right now. Everybody want to see

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Speaker 3: a new blood. I beat him before, but nobody remember

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Speaker 3: if that a long time ago. Uh, but maybe I

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Speaker 3: You know, Revolt coming for two wings. Uh maybe he

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Speaker 3: got a terror victory. Right now? Who gonna say, Revelt

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Speaker 6: You know?

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Speaker 1: So, I'm gonna read you something from Kayak car France.

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Speaker 7: Right.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he can't keep me down. I'm too fast,

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Speaker 1: and that you will get sloppy, and when you get sloppy,

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Speaker 1: He also says that he respects you, Tomy, not being disrespectful,

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Speaker 5: What do you think when you hear that?

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Speaker 3: Make me motivation? You know, kak O France is a

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Speaker 3: very good fighter. But I when I'm there the well,

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 3: If he he wants bringing me to that that place,

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Speaker 3: I bring him to the deeper waters, you know. And uh,

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure he can breathe that, you know. Uh

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Speaker 3: if he think he can, like I defend my my grappler,

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Speaker 3: he's wrong. Man. I improved a lot. Uh after nine years,

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Speaker 3: I fight with the hit and the tail to mid fighter.

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Speaker 3: I'm involved so much. I'm evolved so much because now I'

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Speaker 3: I'm fight with another Kai my last fighter. I fight

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Speaker 3: with the kaik and I'll have a Kaiker friends. But

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Speaker 3: he's gonna finish with the same team. I want him

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Speaker 1: Oh you think you're taking him now. Huh oh, yeah,

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Speaker 3: I'm I'm the right position. Oh you you know my corners,

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Speaker 3: you know my gym. Yep, you know everything. Uh I

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Speaker 1: And oh those are nice, champ those shorts are.

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Speaker 3: Nice gym you design those. Yes, my tattoo on.

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Speaker 1: Hey those are nice, nice color too, nice black and red,

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Speaker 1: little red and gold.

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Speaker 3: I read two by guys. He sold out soon.

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Speaker 5: They're gonna sell off very soon. I'm'a get a pair

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Speaker 5: for my son. He will love those