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Speaker 2: Spend a lot of time, maybe too much time on

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Speaker 2: the Buffalo Bills situation. But anytime I get an owner

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Speaker 2: at a press conference, oh that's shooting fish in a

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Speaker 2: barrel for the most part, when you get them and

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Speaker 2: you could ask them questions because normally you don't get

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Speaker 2: access to talk to an owner. And the Buffalo media

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Speaker 2: got a gift yesterday they got to ask about the

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Speaker 2: situation with Sean McDermott and moving forward in Buffalo New Stadium,

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Speaker 2: coming up that the fact that or apparently the fact

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Speaker 2: that Josh Allen was so emotional, maybe more emotional than

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Speaker 2: in previous years, maybe led to the final decision that

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Speaker 2: Terry Pogoula was going to fire Sean McDermott. All right,

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Speaker 2: eight seven seven three d P show operator Tyler is

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Speaker 2: sitting by Seaton poll question from our one and then

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Speaker 2: what are we going with in hour two?

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Speaker 3: Well, I'll update you on our ones pole question and

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Speaker 3: then I'll give you our.

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Speaker 2: Two's poll question. Akay, all right?

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Speaker 3: Should owners speak at sports press conferences? Your options there

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Speaker 3: are no, hell, no, absolutely not, and sure. Sure has

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Speaker 3: forty seven percent of that vote. But unfortunately, if you

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Speaker 3: add up all of the other versions of no, it

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Speaker 3: still comes out to the answer is no.

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Speaker 2: And then which team would you rather coach?

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Speaker 4: Right now?

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Speaker 3: The Buffalo Bills or the Baltimore Ravens. Buffalo Bills have

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Speaker 3: sixty six percent of that vote.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I won an owner to speak. I think he

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Speaker 2: should speak to a fan base. I think that your fans,

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Speaker 2: your city, they're building that stadium, helping you build that stadium. Now,

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Speaker 2: this is a state of the union. That's I don't

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Speaker 2: think that's asking much for an owner to get in

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Speaker 2: front of the media and just say we have a

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Speaker 2: finite amount of time. It's going to be an hour,

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Speaker 2: and you know, do it as a town hall or

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Speaker 2: let fans ask you how about that? That's even better.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, which would you prefer an owner that doesn't speak much,

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Speaker 3: or a Jerry Jones type that is has his fingers

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Speaker 3: in everything, that owner who doesn't speak. There's a there's

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Speaker 3: a point where it can be too much.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yes, yes, Jerry just puts too much pressure

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Speaker 2: on the coach. And you know when he speaks and

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Speaker 2: it's about him. You know, this is how he got

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Speaker 2: him instead of sharing the spotlight with Jimmy Johnson. No,

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Speaker 2: this is about me, and that led to their divorce

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Speaker 2: and the acrimony that lasted decades between these two. I

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Speaker 2: don't want to walk into that. I mean, you get

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Speaker 2: to coach the Cowboys, but you're not really coaching the

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Speaker 2: going to get the blame. All right, A few more

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Speaker 2: phone calls in here, Chris and Syracuse. Hi, Chris, what

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Speaker 5: Hey? Thanks?

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Speaker 6: Dan?

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Speaker 5: Hey off your first hour interview and yeah, you just

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Speaker 5: mentioned it, Dan. I wonder a lot of the Buffalo

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Speaker 5: and Buffalo media has said Josh Allen has never been

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Speaker 5: good idea in his eyes, he cost his coaches job.

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Speaker 2: I think it's fair to ask that or wonder that,

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Speaker 2: because when we were talking to the Buffalo Bill's beat

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Speaker 2: reporter Skirsky, you know, Josh Allen didn't meet with the

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Speaker 2: then he normally meets with the media on Sunday. I

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Speaker 2: get the feeling that he knew that Sean McDermott was

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Speaker 2: he was overcome with emotion because he knew if he

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Speaker 2: plays like Josh Allen, they win that game, and he didn't,

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Speaker 2: and he knows that Sean McDermott is going to get fired,

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Speaker 2: or the feeling that he's going to get fired. Hodges

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Speaker 2: in North Carolina, Hodges, Welcome to the program.

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Speaker 6: What's Up VP six three two fifteen, First time long

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Speaker 6: come YEA, So talking about Sean McDermott and we're talking

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Speaker 6: about the Buffalo Bills and we're looking for a new

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Speaker 6: head coach, and I am a Buffalo Bills fan.

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Speaker 2: But Mike McCarthy, well he might be number one on

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Speaker 2: the Steelers list, which would be interesting. If Mike McCarthy

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Speaker 2: is coaching where Aaron Rodgers was playing, and of course

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Speaker 2: they had their falling out, would Mike McCarthy bring Aaron

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Speaker 2: Rodgers back? Richard in La, Hi, Richard, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 4: Good money?

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Speaker 7: Guys? I just was thinking, like same as what happened

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Speaker 7: to Tapa Bay with Tony Dungee. Why not bring Don

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Speaker 7: Goodman his splashy hire. He has approven track record and

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Speaker 7: I think he deserves another shot and kind of got,

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Speaker 7: you know, tossed and turned in that whole Dan Snyder

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Speaker 7: a pretty good job.

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Speaker 2: Well, I don't know if they want to splashy hire.

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Speaker 2: They just want the right hire, the right person. Who

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Speaker 2: is that person? Is it an offensive minded person? It

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Speaker 2: still comes down to you know the roster, how good

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Speaker 4: Now?

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Speaker 2: I love James Cook. He I wish they would have

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Speaker 2: your wide receivers aren't threatening, and your defense not as

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Speaker 2: formidable as it's been before. So yes, you did have

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Speaker 2: an open path to go at least to the AFC

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Speaker 2: title game. I get that, But do I think they're

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Speaker 2: better than Denver? Not the rosters, But I still if

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Speaker 2: I got Josh Allen, that's an advantage nobody else has.

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Speaker 2: But I have to get to that point where Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen will be the difference. Well he would have been

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Speaker 2: the difference if he played like Josh Allen, they win.

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Speaker 2: But Denver, to me young team got a quarterback on

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Speaker 2: a rookie deal. I got a really good defense in there,

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Speaker 2: and they can add to that roster. So I'd feel,

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Speaker 2: you know, is Buffalo better than Jacksonville? Well, yeah, they

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Speaker 2: beat Jacksonville in Jacksonville. Are they better than the Texans? Yeah?

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Speaker 2: Are they better than the Patriots? No? Are they better

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Speaker 2: than Denver? Now I'm looking at the roster and once again,

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Speaker 2: the Patriots have a quarterback on a rookie deal, and

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Speaker 2: you gotta factor that in.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, again, the optics would have said you lost

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Speaker 8: to a second or third year quarterback in Drake May

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Speaker 8: like you said on his rookie deal. In a first

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Speaker 8: year head coach in Mike Rabel. You know with the Patriots,

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Speaker 8: they wouldn't have accepted that. Either you can't lose that game.

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Speaker 2: No, No, they had to get to the AFC title gain,

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Speaker 2: it felt like. And even then we don't know if

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Speaker 2: the owner would have kept Sean McDermott.

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Speaker 8: Yes, Mark, now, I think you had to win because

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Speaker 8: they would have faced the Patriots in the AFC Championship game.

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Speaker 8: The optics just look so bad if you had lost

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Speaker 2: The NFL Honors finalist was announced so MVP and other

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Speaker 2: awards for the twenty twenty five season. These are the

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Speaker 2: players who are nominated for Most Valuable. This will be

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Speaker 2: the NFL Honors ceremony February fifth, and voters were asked

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Speaker 2: to rank their top five picks for all of these categories.

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Speaker 2: Top five for MVP, top three for other awards. Josh Allen,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Drake May, Christian McCaffrey, and Matthew Stafford for MVP.

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Speaker 2: If I told you in August this would be the list,

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Speaker 2: I think you would go. Trevor Lawrence. I had McCaffrey

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Speaker 2: as the offensive player of the year when the season started,

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Speaker 2: Matthew Stafford. The reason why I didn't pick the Rams

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Speaker 2: because I didn't know if Matthew Stafford could stay healthy.

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Speaker 2: If you would have said, hey, he's going to play

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Speaker 2: all year and throw forty touchdowns, I would have picked

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Speaker 2: the Rams to represent the NFC in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: It's that good roster. Drake May. We would have been surprised.

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Speaker 2: We'd be like, man, that's a pretty big jump for

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Speaker 2: coach there. Defensive Player of the Year, Will Anderson Junior,

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Speaker 2: the third of the Texans, Nick Benito of the Broncos,

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett, the Browns, Aiden Hutchinson, Micah Parsons, Well, Micah,

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Speaker 2: we would have said, of course. But if I said, well,

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Speaker 2: have been like, oh, okayh Will Anderson, great player. It's

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Speaker 2: Miles Garrett. Miles Garrett will win this. It's not even close.

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Speaker 2: Offensive Player of the Year Drake May, Christian McCaffrey, Pookinakua,

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Speaker 2: Vijon Robinson, and Jackson Smith Nujigba. I'm going to say

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Speaker 2: Pookin a coua is going to be your winner there,

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Speaker 2: And I don't think anybody would have been surprised if

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Speaker 2: I said that at the beginning of the year. Offensive

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Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year, Jackson dart Amecca Buka, Traveon Henderson,

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Speaker 2: who he underrated player with the Patriots, uh, Teed McMillan

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Speaker 2: of the Panthers, and Tyler Shuck of the Saints. All right, yeah,

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Speaker 2: who is gonna win Offensive Rookie of the Year? Tyler

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Speaker 2: Shuck did a really good job of the Saints. McMillan

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Speaker 2: is a big time receiver. Henderson underrated, uh Buca started

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Speaker 2: Jackson Dark. Wow, I'm gonna I'm gonna give it to

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Speaker 2: Teed McMillan with the Panthers. They made the playoffs and

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Speaker 2: he was a go to guy. He was a big

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Speaker 2: time in that game in the playoffs. Defensive Rookie of

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Speaker 2: the Year. They already announced that this is the Associated Press.

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Speaker 2: Carson Sweessinger of the Browns is going to win this.

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Speaker 2: Come Back Player of the Year, Stephan Diggs, Aiden Hutchinson,

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence, Christian McCaffrey, and Dak Prescott. I mean, Hutchinson

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Speaker 2: came back but I don't know what kind of numbers

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Speaker 2: he had. Detroit didn't make the playoffs. I'm gonna say

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Speaker 2: Trevor Lawrence. I'll say Trevor Lawrence Coach of the Year. Boy,

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Speaker 2: this is competitive. Liam Cohen, Jacksonville, Ben Johnson, Bears, Mike

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Speaker 2: McDonald Seattle, Kyle Shanahan, San Francisco, Mike Rabel Patriots. I

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Speaker 2: think this was the best coaching job Kyle Shanahan did.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know when the voting is done. I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna guess at the end of the regular season, I'm

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Speaker 2: gonna give it to Liam Cohen.

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Speaker 9: Uh.

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Speaker 2: I'd have no problem that. Well, they're all worthy. Mike

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Speaker 2: Comment away. Well hear from Booger McFarlane from the mother

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Speaker 2: Ship in a moment here. David in Ohio is back.

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Speaker 2: Hi David, what's on your mind?

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Speaker 6: Hey Dan?

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Speaker 9: Yesterday, Seaton brought up that the whole Buffalo Bills and

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Speaker 9: interception was like the Rich Eisen Show family Feud debacle.

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Speaker 9: With that being said, would you consider a remac with

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Well, you're not getting a Sports Emmy for it.

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Speaker 2: Would I do a rematch? No? Probably not. We did it,

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Speaker 2: I mean we dominated. Theres nothing left to prove, kind

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Speaker 3: Really didn't appreciate though when Rich after the celebrity family

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Speaker 3: you know, I didn't want del Tufo. I didn't want

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Speaker 2: Yeah he did, and he pointed fingers he did.

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Speaker 3: I just want to let everybody know.

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Speaker 2: I agree, that's missed up. I agree. Is Booger McFarland

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Speaker 2: there with this, Sir is Booger McFarlane, ESPN, NFL College

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Speaker 2: Football Analyst and you can see him on the NFL

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Speaker 2: Prime with Chris Berman on ESPN Plus. How are you feeling?

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Speaker 4: What the big fella? How are we doing?

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Speaker 2: I'm good, I'm good. When are you coming down for

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Speaker 2: meet Friday?

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Speaker 2: All Right, Well, let's get to football stuff here. Sean

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Speaker 2: Best coaching vacancy right now is where.

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Speaker 13: We've seen you do it before in New Orleans. Now

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Speaker 13: can Sean Payton coach a game that allows this quarterback

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Speaker 2: How can you tell when a moment is too big

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Speaker 13: Do things that are uncharacteristics or your athleticism doesn't come out.

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Speaker 13: comfort zone. It's no different than you, Dan. How could

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Speaker 13: somebody tell when you're uncomfortable? It's because you would probably

433
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Speaker 13: not be the seamless guy that you always are on

434
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Speaker 13: the radio and television. You would start up blah blah

435
00:24:27,680 --> 00:24:29,960
Speaker 13: blah blah blah blah, like you would start doing things

436
00:24:30,000 --> 00:24:33,400
Speaker 13: that America doesn't normally see you do. It's the same

437
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Speaker 13: way with a quarterback or any of the player when

438
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Speaker 13: you try to do things that you don't normally do,

439
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:39,000
Speaker 13: you're MVP.

440
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Speaker 2: Is Hill.

441
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 4: Drake May? Because I think he's done more with less.

442
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Speaker 13: Matthew Stafford has pooking the core at Devonte Adam, Sean McVay,

443
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:52,080
Speaker 13: what does what does Drake May have? Stefan Diggs coming

444
00:24:52,119 --> 00:24:58,040
Speaker 13: off in ACL, Josh McDaniel, Kai Shan BOUDI you know,

445
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:00,320
Speaker 13: those are the guys that he's got and and I

446
00:25:00,359 --> 00:25:03,120
Speaker 13: think that you know, when you look at the weapons

447
00:25:03,160 --> 00:25:04,719
Speaker 13: and look at what they've done and look at the

448
00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,560
Speaker 13: seed that they have, how could you not choose Drake May. Now,

449
00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:11,119
Speaker 13: Matthew Stafford's numbers are going to be better, and they

450
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:14,240
Speaker 13: should be better. He's got a better receiving corps, he's

451
00:25:14,280 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 13: got a better team. I think you got to look

452
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Speaker 13: at New England and say, man, what Drake May's done?

453
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Speaker 13: Man like the kid, especially in year two, and I

454
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Speaker 13: think the sky's the limit.

455
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Speaker 2: Explain to me, well, I don't know, Let me ask

456
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Speaker 2: you who's your coach of the year and then we'll

457
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Speaker 2: I'll have a follow up.

458
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Speaker 13: Wow, Mike Brabel because of the level of achievement relative

459
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Speaker 13: to expectations.

460
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Speaker 4: What did they win? Fourteen games? Thirteen games?

461
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Speaker 13: And I think most people would have said they were

462
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Speaker 13: gonna win three or four. So when you look at

463
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Speaker 13: what they did relative to the expectations that we had,

464
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Speaker 13: how could it not be Mike.

465
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Speaker 2: Rabel, Well, we talk about culture now as a former player, like,

466
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Speaker 2: what does that mean? When we talk about the culture

467
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Speaker 2: in the locker room?

468
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Speaker 13: It's your ability to make decisions based on where you

469
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Speaker 13: are and the people around you that you work with

470
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Speaker 13: and the environment that you're in. When it's the off

471
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Speaker 13: season and I am hanging out with my buddies and

472
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Speaker 13: you know, we're deciding if we're gonna gamble on the

473
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Speaker 13: golf course.

474
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Speaker 4: That's one culture.

475
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Speaker 13: But when I walk into work, I knowiately immediately when

476
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Speaker 13: I walk into work, there's a certain way we do things.

477
00:26:28,520 --> 00:26:30,840
Speaker 13: There's a certain way I carry myself. There's a certain

478
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Speaker 13: level of decision making and the coorum that I must

479
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Speaker 13: have at my place of work based on my co

480
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Speaker 13: workers and based on my place of employment. That's culture,

481
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Speaker 13: And I'm gonna do those things when nobody else is around.

482
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Speaker 13: I'm gonna do those things when nobody else is watching.

483
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Speaker 13: I always tell my children I judge my level of

484
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Speaker 13: parenting based on your level of decision making, not just

485
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Speaker 13: when people are around, but when nobody is looking. I

486
00:26:57,760 --> 00:27:00,359
Speaker 13: have to be a good enough parent where you make

487
00:27:00,440 --> 00:27:03,240
Speaker 13: great decision even when no one's watching. Now, it doesn't

488
00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 13: always work out that way, of course, everybody's got kids

489
00:27:05,960 --> 00:27:08,080
Speaker 13: that knows that. But I think you can get a

490
00:27:08,200 --> 00:27:11,240
Speaker 13: level of the culture in your home, of the culture

491
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Speaker 13: in your workplace based on the decision making that your

492
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Speaker 13: kids and your employees make. And here's the thing, then

493
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Speaker 13: haven't you often heard of this? The best led teams

494
00:27:21,880 --> 00:27:24,520
Speaker 13: are what player led teams. If the coach has to

495
00:27:24,520 --> 00:27:26,600
Speaker 13: tell you everything to do, then the coach probably hadn't

496
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:27,760
Speaker 13: done a good enough job itself.

497
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Speaker 2: I know you're proud to LSU alone.

498
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Speaker 4: Absolutely.

499
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Speaker 13: I love Lane Kiffin because I think Lane Kiffin is

500
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Speaker 13: going to bring I know exactly where you're going. Like

501
00:27:38,640 --> 00:27:40,119
Speaker 13: I've been talking to you for years, I know exactly

502
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Speaker 13: where you're going with this. Lane Kiffin was the perfect

503
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Speaker 13: person for LSU at the time.

504
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Speaker 2: Now, where do you think I'm going with this? Where

505
00:27:47,760 --> 00:27:48,639
Speaker 2: do you think I'm going with this?

506
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Speaker 13: Okay, my idea was that you were going, Did I

507
00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,600
Speaker 13: like the way it all went down of him coming

508
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 13: from old miss LSU?

509
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Speaker 4: Now, did I get that right or wrong? I'm sorry

510
00:27:59,240 --> 00:27:59,840
Speaker 4: to go ahead. Yeah.

511
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Speaker 2: It feels like this is the end of the SEC

512
00:28:06,119 --> 00:28:09,240
Speaker 2: from the standpoint of everybody responding over reacting that the

513
00:28:09,240 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: Big Ten has had three consecutive national champions and oh

514
00:28:12,640 --> 00:28:16,760
Speaker 2: my gosh, they're spending money. And I saw where I

515
00:28:16,760 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 2: think it was Matthew Berry does college football for the mothership.

516
00:28:20,040 --> 00:28:23,919
Speaker 2: It was like LSU is the the final hope for

517
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:28,400
Speaker 2: the SEC. Like what happened here that the SEC now

518
00:28:28,440 --> 00:28:31,760
Speaker 2: hanging by a thread, and oh my gosh, look at

519
00:28:31,800 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 2: what the Big Ten has done and what's the future

520
00:28:34,520 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 2: of the SEC.

521
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Speaker 13: I think we have recency, Boss, and we always have

522
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Speaker 13: and we always will. The Big Ten is one three

523
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:45,160
Speaker 13: in a row right now. The Big Ten is the

524
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Speaker 13: is the preeminent college conference in college football because they've

525
00:28:49,560 --> 00:28:50,760
Speaker 13: won three in a row and they've done with three

526
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Speaker 13: different teams. I think when you look at most people

527
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:58,040
Speaker 13: and Nick Saban said the best this era of college

528
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Speaker 13: football has been changed based on the l and.

529
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Speaker 4: Transfer port them and Saban said it best.

530
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Speaker 13: It's hard to get kids from down south to go

531
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Speaker 13: up north unless you're pay them. Well, guess what we're

532
00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,000
Speaker 13: paying him now. And I know he said that tongue

533
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,880
Speaker 13: in I know he said that tongue in cheek, but

534
00:29:12,960 --> 00:29:15,360
Speaker 13: there's some validity to it based on the conversation you

535
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Speaker 13: and I've had. I'm a Southern board like I enjoy

536
00:29:18,040 --> 00:29:19,880
Speaker 13: going to New York to visit around the holidays and

537
00:29:19,880 --> 00:29:20,680
Speaker 13: seeing the tree.

538
00:29:20,480 --> 00:29:22,920
Speaker 4: At Rockefeller cent and all that good stuff. But Bud

539
00:29:23,000 --> 00:29:23,960
Speaker 4: like the South. Baby.

540
00:29:24,240 --> 00:29:28,040
Speaker 13: But I think because now because Mark Cuban and Indiana,

541
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Speaker 13: because Ellison, I think I have his name right, the

542
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:35,760
Speaker 13: big Michigan Booster and all those guys like, because there's

543
00:29:35,760 --> 00:29:40,640
Speaker 13: so much money in these Northeastern in schools around the country,

544
00:29:41,280 --> 00:29:45,160
Speaker 13: you're getting players that normally set in Tuscaloosa, or set

545
00:29:45,160 --> 00:29:47,840
Speaker 13: in Athens, or set in Baton Rouge and waited their turn.

546
00:29:47,880 --> 00:29:50,760
Speaker 13: They're like, why would I wait and play two years

547
00:29:50,760 --> 00:29:53,040
Speaker 13: when I can go play four years and make a

548
00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 13: million bucks? And so now the the playing field has

549
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 13: become leveled, so to speak. But all things are, but

550
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,880
Speaker 13: make no mistake about it. And I'm telling you and

551
00:30:02,920 --> 00:30:05,760
Speaker 13: your cronies right now, the same thing. The best conference

552
00:30:05,800 --> 00:30:08,400
Speaker 13: in America is still the SEC. And if you don't

553
00:30:08,400 --> 00:30:10,120
Speaker 13: believe me, just ask Greg Sanki.

554
00:30:10,840 --> 00:30:14,240
Speaker 2: Oh do you think Greg Sankey would go no, booger,

555
00:30:14,320 --> 00:30:18,480
Speaker 2: it's the Big ten. You you know better. It just

556
00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:22,560
Speaker 2: feels like, hey, there's now everybody can pay. And as

557
00:30:22,600 --> 00:30:26,400
Speaker 2: I was told, you either have tech money or oil money.

558
00:30:26,080 --> 00:30:28,880
Speaker 2: And some of these schools in the SEC do not

559
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:32,680
Speaker 2: have tech money and oil money and these other programs.

560
00:30:33,160 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 2: Indiana winning the national title would be like Vandy winning

561
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Speaker 2: the national title and.

562
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Speaker 13: Vandy won what ten games this year? So Vandy was close,

563
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Speaker 13: Vandy was on the precipice. Yeah, because you know, to

564
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Speaker 13: your point, all which would I rather have? I'd rather

565
00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,960
Speaker 13: have oil money because oil money is pumping daily. It's

566
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:53,120
Speaker 13: coming out of the ground. So at some point the

567
00:30:53,160 --> 00:30:55,320
Speaker 13: tech industry goes up and down. We've seen that. Just

568
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:56,760
Speaker 13: go back and look at our stock market over the

569
00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,440
Speaker 13: last forty years. Tech goes up and down. You know

570
00:30:59,480 --> 00:31:01,720
Speaker 13: what's not going up and down that stuff that's coming

571
00:31:01,720 --> 00:31:02,240
Speaker 13: out the ground.

572
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Speaker 4: Because how many.

573
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 2: Schools, how many schools do you have in the SEC?

574
00:31:05,680 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 2: Oklahoma and Texas that are pumping.

575
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Speaker 13: Oklahoma, Texas, Texas A and m Arkansas's got the you

576
00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:16,520
Speaker 13: know got Walmart money. That's pretty good money. Last time

577
00:31:16,520 --> 00:31:18,240
Speaker 13: I checked, they got four big and airs that are,

578
00:31:18,560 --> 00:31:21,000
Speaker 13: you know, own Walmart, Tyson Chicken. I mean, it's a

579
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Speaker 13: Here's the one thing that I've been amazed by, DP

580
00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:28,960
Speaker 13: and and maybe this doesn't amaze you because you're filthy rich.

581
00:31:29,640 --> 00:31:32,479
Speaker 13: I have been amazed by the amount of money that

582
00:31:32,520 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 13: people have in this country, and people that got money

583
00:31:35,800 --> 00:31:37,800
Speaker 13: you didn't even know about. Like there are people at

584
00:31:37,840 --> 00:31:41,160
Speaker 13: these schools that have billions with a B that you

585
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 13: have never even heard of. And they've come out of

586
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 13: the woodwork since NIL has become like the thing to

587
00:31:46,920 --> 00:31:49,120
Speaker 13: be because they want to be like, they want to

588
00:31:49,160 --> 00:31:51,640
Speaker 13: be known. They may not want the microphone, but they

589
00:31:51,680 --> 00:31:56,120
Speaker 13: want people to know, Hey, I'm helping school school X,

590
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 13: and I can do it because I'm a billionaire with

591
00:31:58,680 --> 00:31:59,000
Speaker 13: the bet.

592
00:31:59,120 --> 00:31:59,320
Speaker 4: Yeah.

593
00:31:59,360 --> 00:32:03,520
Speaker 2: I know. They don't hold press conferences like Terry Pakula.

594
00:32:05,000 --> 00:32:09,000
Speaker 2: They just said, all right, here you go, here's some money. Private.

595
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Speaker 4: Here's a question for you.

596
00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 13: Speaking of Terry, here's a question for you, because I

597
00:32:13,040 --> 00:32:15,920
Speaker 13: always have a question for you. If you're Keon Coleman

598
00:32:16,240 --> 00:32:18,360
Speaker 13: and you just heard the owner in the GM basically

599
00:32:18,440 --> 00:32:19,480
Speaker 13: said that we don't want you.

600
00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:22,160
Speaker 4: How do you show back up to work in that building?

601
00:32:22,240 --> 00:32:24,000
Speaker 13: Or do you or do you ask for a free

602
00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:26,880
Speaker 13: How do you think the whole Keon Coleman thing works out?

603
00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: Well? I would lay low for a little while, but

604
00:32:30,640 --> 00:32:33,440
Speaker 2: I would realize my days are numbered and I would

605
00:32:33,440 --> 00:32:38,680
Speaker 2: say to you know, eventually, your GM, you know, can

606
00:32:38,680 --> 00:32:40,320
Speaker 2: you find another location for me?

607
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:43,440
Speaker 4: Interesting?

608
00:32:43,800 --> 00:32:46,440
Speaker 13: Yeah, I think ultimately that's the way it's going to go,

609
00:32:46,840 --> 00:32:47,880
Speaker 13: But I just feel bad.

610
00:32:47,920 --> 00:32:50,480
Speaker 2: I felt bad for the kid, though I agree with you,

611
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 2: like like he caught strays, like what did he do?

612
00:32:54,000 --> 00:32:56,960
Speaker 2: I mean, I mean, I know he didn't play like

613
00:32:57,000 --> 00:32:59,080
Speaker 2: they thought he was going to play, but who drafted him?

614
00:32:59,080 --> 00:33:01,440
Speaker 2: And then they can't even agree who drafted or didn't

615
00:33:01,480 --> 00:33:04,920
Speaker 2: draft him, who wanted him, who didn't And he's probably going,

616
00:33:04,960 --> 00:33:06,640
Speaker 2: wait a minute, why am I trending here?

617
00:33:08,520 --> 00:33:10,840
Speaker 13: But guess what, he's no different than any other player.

618
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:13,040
Speaker 13: Like most of the time in your first and second

619
00:33:13,120 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 13: year you're trying to figure it out. Like he's a young,

620
00:33:14,920 --> 00:33:17,800
Speaker 13: snaty nose kid. He shows up late. Guess what, I

621
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:20,280
Speaker 13: showed up late my rookie year. He's made some mistakes,

622
00:33:20,320 --> 00:33:22,560
Speaker 13: but you know what you do? You bet on the

623
00:33:22,560 --> 00:33:24,719
Speaker 13: talent that you drafted, You coach him up, you give

624
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,400
Speaker 13: him three or four years, and you see what kind

625
00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 13: of player develop you get. And I think he could

626
00:33:29,760 --> 00:33:32,120
Speaker 13: develop into a really good player. The problem is right

627
00:33:32,160 --> 00:33:33,960
Speaker 13: now he's gonna walk into that building if he ever

628
00:33:34,040 --> 00:33:36,120
Speaker 13: does again, and have zero confidence.

629
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Speaker 2: Yes, and I would too, because everybody's going to be

630
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:41,760
Speaker 2: wondering the same thing. How did you feel when you

631
00:33:41,840 --> 00:33:46,360
Speaker 2: heard ownership and management talk about that he is Bucker

632
00:33:46,400 --> 00:33:50,520
Speaker 2: McFarlane of the Mothership And you can catch him NFL Primetime,

633
00:33:50,920 --> 00:33:54,760
Speaker 2: which can be seen on ESPN following the NFC Championship

634
00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:58,960
Speaker 2: game normally on ESPN Plus. But you're on the mother

635
00:33:59,040 --> 00:34:01,800
Speaker 2: Ship Sunday night. Look at you, big tongue.

636
00:34:01,840 --> 00:34:03,360
Speaker 4: Yeah, it's gonna be fun.

637
00:34:03,440 --> 00:34:05,040
Speaker 13: I mean every now and they put me in Berman

638
00:34:05,120 --> 00:34:08,080
Speaker 13: on TV and you'll get a chance to see it.

639
00:34:08,120 --> 00:34:10,480
Speaker 13: And maybe you agree with this or not. I think

640
00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:12,560
Speaker 13: he's the greatest, and this is no offense to you.

641
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,000
Speaker 13: I think he's the greatest high highlight reader I've ever seen. Now,

642
00:34:16,000 --> 00:34:18,080
Speaker 13: there's a bunch of you guys that are good. You

643
00:34:18,160 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 13: Stuart Scott, Van pelt Rich Eisen. I think Berman is

644
00:34:22,280 --> 00:34:24,840
Speaker 13: the greatest ever. I don't know if you disagree or

645
00:34:24,880 --> 00:34:26,719
Speaker 13: agree or where you think he ranks in there.

646
00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 2: I have no problem with that. Okay, yeah, no problem

647
00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:31,400
Speaker 2: with that.

648
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:33,239
Speaker 4: He's phenomenal.

649
00:34:33,239 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 13: And for me, it's been really cool to kind of

650
00:34:35,920 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 13: watch him and pick his brain and work with him.

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Speaker 4: And I can't wait for Sunday night.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm glad that they brought him back. I actually

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Speaker 2: went to management. I went to Jimmy Patarro and I said,

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Speaker 2: you've got to bring Chris back. And you know, to

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Speaker 2: Jimmy's credit, you know, he did bring him back because

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Speaker 2: they said he is the NFL Prime time there's nobody

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Speaker 2: else that should be doing that. He's got the energy

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Speaker 2: to do it. And when I went back for the anniversary,

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Speaker 2: I did talk to him and I said, you know,

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Speaker 2: it mean the world. I didn't want Chris to disappear,

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Speaker 2: and I thought he was disappearing and he meant too

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Speaker 2: much to the place. He's the most important person who's

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Speaker 2: ever walked in that building. And I said, name a building,

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Speaker 2: have a statue, whatever, Just don't forget him. Him and

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Speaker 2: Bob Lee, tom MEAs. Never forget them. They might disappear

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Speaker 2: from the you know, the public eye. But I just

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Speaker 2: didn't want that to happen to Chris because in large

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Speaker 2: part I got my opportunity because I wanted to be there.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to be in that environment, and Chris created

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Speaker 2: that environment.

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Speaker 13: Well, I'll definitely make sure he knows that you said that. Man,

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Speaker 13: he appreciates that stuff.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Booker, good to talk to you about him.

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Speaker 2: Have a good weekend.

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Speaker 4: Always, man, look forward to you guys. Have a great day.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, take a break. More phone calls coming

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Speaker 2: up back after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best

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Speaker 2: Search FSR to listen live. Update the poll results if

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Speaker 2: you can Seaton.

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Speaker 3: Should owners speak at sports press conferences right now? Sure

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Speaker 3: has about forty seven percent of that boat? And which

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Speaker 3: team would you rather coach right now? The Buffalo Bills

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Speaker 3: have sixty five percent of that boat over the Baltimore Ravens.

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Speaker 2: All right, Coming up next hour. This forty nine ers

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Speaker 2: story that's kind of bizarre. Is there some stranger things

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Speaker 2: kind of episode that's leading to the Niners rash of

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Speaker 2: injuries that has nothing to do with the playing field

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Speaker 2: or actual football games. Have that for you at the

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Speaker 2: top of the hour, and twenty years ago Kobe went

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Speaker 2: for eighty one against the Raptors. We will hear from

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Speaker 2: Kobe an interview that I did with him, and also

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Speaker 2: two of the Toronto Raptors who were trying to guard Kobe.

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Speaker 2: That'll be coming up next hour. David Cincinnati, Good morning, Dave.

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Speaker 2: What's on your mind?

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Speaker 7: Heyd A couple of things. First of all, in all

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Speaker 7: due respect to Berman, you are the best.

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Speaker 2: Well, thank you, Benda. I now Chris Berman's contributions to

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Speaker 2: sports TV cannot be overstated. Like he to me, created

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Speaker 2: an environment at ESPN, and you know it was contagious.

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Speaker 2: I wanted to work there. And my first show Chris

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Speaker 2: did the eleven o'clock Sports Center, and he knew that

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Speaker 2: I was going to make my debut and he said,

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Speaker 2: all stay and he did the show with me. And

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Speaker 2: I appreciated that and still do to this day. But

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Speaker 2: thank you, Dave. But Chris Berman, he is and will

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Speaker 2: always be ESPN yeampalling.

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Speaker 11: That first night when he told you that was it

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Speaker 11: all I know, was a great moment at all.

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Speaker 2: Intimidating, Yeah, because he was so much louder than you

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Speaker 2: realize when you're in the studio. It it kind of

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Speaker 2: echoed and it projected, and I even said on the air,

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Speaker 2: I said, man, you're loud. Yes, Todd, I love.

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Speaker 10: Will you tell a story about how you we follow

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Speaker 10: him around and his nickname y after you that newspaper

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Speaker 10: in North Carolina.

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Speaker 2: The Charlotte Observer, because I was told so. I came

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Speaker 2: over from CNN, and the person who hired me, John Walsh,

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Speaker 2: said hey, just observe for three months. Three months and

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Speaker 2: I would just go in there and I would be

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Speaker 2: there in the evening and I'd be around whether it

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Speaker 2: was Chris or Tommy, Tim Brando, there were Kerry Ross

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Speaker 2: like there were there were people who were in there,

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Speaker 2: and all I did is just watch. I only needed

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Speaker 2: to watch probably for you know, two or three days.

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Speaker 2: But Chris would always come in and he'd see me

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Speaker 2: and he goes, it's the Charlotte Observer. And I just

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Speaker 2: remember they were gambling on sporting events like it was.

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Speaker 2: It was pretty wild in there. It was fun. And

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Speaker 2: then the new boss who headed up Sports Center, John Walsh,

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Speaker 2: he cleaned that up. We're like, we're we're not going

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Speaker 2: to be doing that. We'll still have fun ish, but

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Speaker 2: we're going to be journalists. We're going to be breaking stories.

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Speaker 2: And I was kind of seen as, uh, okay, here

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Speaker 2: comes Golden Boy, and I wanted to have as much

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Speaker 2: fun as they were having. It was I came from CNN,

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Speaker 2: and our show was better than Sports Center Sports Tonight

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Speaker 2: with Nick Charles and Fred Hickman. It was better than

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Speaker 2: what ESPN had and John Walsh they had a Sports center.

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Speaker 2: Knew that, and he wanted to incorporate more of that.

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Speaker 2: He wanted reporting, breaking stories, good writing. He could still

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Speaker 2: have fun. He didn't want us to have as much

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Speaker 2: fun as Chris Berman was having because the line for

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Speaker 2: management ownership was we don't want to have another Berman.

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Speaker 2: And I'm thinking, oh my god, you can't have enough

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Speaker 2: talk about not getting it. Oh, they did not get it.

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Speaker 2: It was all it was so shortsighted, myopic that they

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Speaker 2: didn't realize there aren't many people in this business who

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Speaker 2: have that kind of talent, and they you know, we

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Speaker 2: don't want another Chris Berman. I'm thinking, oh my goodness.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: See.

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Speaker 3: There was a real movement for a long time in radio,

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Speaker 3: especially music radio, though, and I guess it would carry

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Speaker 3: over to TV as well, that the personalities didn't matter.

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Speaker 3: What mattered was the station. Yeah, and that the music

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Speaker 3: is what was actually important. The personalities were interchangeable. Nobody

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Speaker 3: cares about that, and I'm going to say that history

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Speaker 3: has shown that not to be true.

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Speaker 2: No, because you can get the music anywhere, but can

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Speaker 2: you get the personality to accompany the music.

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Speaker 3: What makes you tune in every day and loyal to

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Speaker 3: that station? It's not you know, well, this is one

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Speaker 3: of the five stations I listened to playing the exact

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Speaker 3: same music. It's the personality that gets you coming back.

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Speaker 2: All right, Two hours in the books. On this Thursday,

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Speaker 2: the Washington Post has a reporter doing a story on

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Speaker 2: the San Francisco forty nine ers and their injuries. Why,

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Speaker 2: we'll tell you in ten minutes. Also, we relive Kobe's

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Speaker 2: eighty one point performance that'll be in about a half

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Speaker 2: hour from now. Final hour right after this