Speaker 1: Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to
Speaker 1: the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away.
Speaker 1: Thanks for that, it's appreciate. Okay, we're back here on
Speaker 1: the A Podcast, Part Scott in studio. Before we talked
Speaker 1: New York Jets football. There was something on television this
Speaker 1: week that a four million people watched the presidential debate
Speaker 1: between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Did you watch part Scott?
Speaker 1: You know what's crazy. I watched. I wanted. I didn't
Speaker 1: watch football. I watched the debate. It was entertaining. Man,
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what you know. I don't know about
Speaker 1: the body chemistry experts and all that stuff, but it
Speaker 1: was awkward watching Donald Trump and his spirits split screen.
Speaker 1: You know, he couldn't be able his best behavior for
Speaker 1: the entire time. Man, you heard you heard some some glory.
Speaker 1: He was thirsty, his throat was dry, he was he
Speaker 1: was disruptive, you know. And that's him on his good behavior,
Speaker 1: you know, on the on the Republican primaries, and even
Speaker 1: crazy because then it's kind of hard for him. He's
Speaker 1: between the rock and Hart Pleace. He can't really insult,
Speaker 1: insult a lady, you know, he can't really call it
Speaker 1: a little Marie, you know, a little ruby o and
Speaker 1: all that type of stuff. So he was trying to
Speaker 1: build his best behavior. But you could see that she
Speaker 1: was poking a bear and getting underneath the skin. It
Speaker 1: was it was hilarious. It was fun to watch. But
Speaker 1: you know, it's what what was was interesting to me.
Speaker 1: I don't know how you said, is how the difference
Speaker 1: between the way sin then covers it and the difference
Speaker 1: between Fox. Now listen to me watching, I think he lost.
Speaker 1: He didn't do a great job. He may have had
Speaker 1: a couple of moments where he was more informed than others,
Speaker 1: but he didn't come off presidential to me. But you
Speaker 1: talk to them, they're like, oh my god, like like
Speaker 1: he was like Martin Luther King or something like he
Speaker 1: galvanized the world or something like. It was like it
Speaker 1: was amazing. Then you turn the center, didn't turn to
Speaker 1: sit and then they're like, man, that's the worst debate.
Speaker 1: He lost, blah blah blah. But there's no middle ground,
Speaker 1: never a middle cround. So I was always searching the television,
Speaker 1: and I used to watch CNN a lot, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I sometimes they go down on my son BC. But
Speaker 1: again those are not worth. It's that I have a
Speaker 1: left leaning and I'll say it right now. We're not
Speaker 1: gonna get two potter. But I'm an independent, so that's
Speaker 1: how I feel. I don't know what I listened. I lit,
Speaker 1: I judge based on the person and listen. If I
Speaker 1: had a choice, I wouldn't vote for anybody that I
Speaker 1: would go none of the above. I forgot what movie
Speaker 1: that was when you vote none of the above. I
Speaker 1: think it was something with no no. I think it
Speaker 1: was Eddie Murphy when the guy died, um and he
Speaker 1: was maybe he died and he was the Uh, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was Eddie Murphy. The guy died, he used his name.
Speaker 1: And people are just so used to just voting for
Speaker 1: the person in name that something Jefferson. They always vote
Speaker 1: for the name, so they never even looked a pat
Speaker 1: attention to the ballot. You know, let me let me
Speaker 1: look this up here. But I'll tell you what, man
Speaker 1: like Jesus God. Now, there's a lot of people who
Speaker 1: say that people would react differently if they turned it down.
Speaker 1: I mean, I'm not one of those guys who are
Speaker 1: gonna watch you with the sound up and then see
Speaker 1: how I feel about it just by watching their facial gestures.
Speaker 1: But there are folks to say they react differently to
Speaker 1: it by hearing what they say and then their facial reactions. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean, you got these body language experts to come
Speaker 1: in and say that you know, he was drinking because
Speaker 1: he was getting nervous and he was anxious and had anxiety,
Speaker 1: and you say she was you know, you can tell
Speaker 1: when he when he brought up the emails, how that
Speaker 1: you know she started blinking, you know, rapidly blinking. So
Speaker 1: so what I'm trying to do is figure out how
Speaker 1: I can use these But when I'm trying to get
Speaker 1: out of something with my wife, how can I use
Speaker 1: my body language? Sure, because if you start blinking, you
Speaker 1: know something that's going on, or you scratch. Why are
Speaker 1: they against water? I like water? You know me, I'm
Speaker 1: always drinking. They tell you to drink a hundred ounces
Speaker 1: a day with this guy in a couple of SIPs
Speaker 1: of water, and they're like different times, he had eleven
Speaker 1: different times, And in their little glasses, I think somebody's
Speaker 1: under that refilling them. And then you know, I think
Speaker 1: they say he interrupted her seventy times. You can get
Speaker 1: away with that and be loud and bragg your doshes
Speaker 1: and like over over, you know, over talk, you know
Speaker 1: in the in the Republican primary, right right, right, He's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, it's a show, but when
Speaker 1: it's just two people, it comes off as annoying and arrogant.
Speaker 1: And what do you think about what do you think
Speaker 1: about the crowd though, because they tell people to come
Speaker 1: in there and be silent. But my counter would be,
Speaker 1: we used to work at Hofstra back in the day.
Speaker 1: Uh that's where the Jets home was and I worked
Speaker 1: there from two thousand one to two thousand and eight
Speaker 1: when this building started. But they tell people in that
Speaker 1: auditorium to come in and don't say anything. But then
Speaker 1: why do they want him there? You know what I'm
Speaker 1: saying exactly. We don't even have the show them. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I guess for atmosphere. You know, they like the handshakes
Speaker 1: at that I guess you know, everybody's gotta claim victory
Speaker 1: and then there's that awkward handshake at the you know,
Speaker 1: like the little lea you just talk stuff about me,
Speaker 1: And they even talked about the handshake. They talked about
Speaker 1: that he invaded her personal space as he put her in,
Speaker 1: and he patted her on the back, but they say
Speaker 1: she should have looked at there's what are you supposed
Speaker 1: to do? I hate him. He's talking about he's been
Speaker 1: talking crap about my about my husband and talking about
Speaker 1: threatening to bringing Cheetah. She's bringing in, you know, Mark Cuban,
Speaker 1: you know, to come in somebody. I don't agree with she.
Speaker 1: She's making all these uh ads about him and his past.
Speaker 1: It's so hard when it gets personal. How would you
Speaker 1: handle that if you were a presidential candidate? Somebody was
Speaker 1: talking because he went at her for going at Barack Obama,
Speaker 1: but then he went after everybody in his party. But
Speaker 1: now they became friends. So now you hear uh Christie
Speaker 1: like Ben Carson's, they're like, man, what are you doing? Man?
Speaker 1: The funniest thing for me is uh and I you know,
Speaker 1: I do a radio show with CPS and I was
Speaker 1: just so Paul last week when I saw Don King
Speaker 1: come out and listen. If Don King wants to support
Speaker 1: Donald Trump, I'm fine. But whoever is advises Donald Trump.
Speaker 1: The fact that they thought that bringing Don King was
Speaker 1: gonna bring it in the black boat have got to
Speaker 1: be has to have lost their mind and be crazy.
Speaker 1: Like I said before on my show. I said, listen,
Speaker 1: black people don't like Don King. You can't find find
Speaker 1: people in their family that like Don King. And I
Speaker 1: said that Don King has ribbed more Black people than
Speaker 1: Omar from the wire, like I brought up all five
Speaker 1: of the lawsuits that he had, from Tim Witherspoon to
Speaker 1: Muhammad Lead to Muhammed to Mike Tyson to George Form,
Speaker 1: all the people that have sued him in court. And
Speaker 1: you think that's gonna bring the black boat. You just
Speaker 1: lost the black boat. You want the black you better
Speaker 1: get Oprah on your side. Don King is pretty old.
Speaker 1: Old people like that don't die. We lose all the
Speaker 1: good ones, all the shakes, and criminals and crooks live forever.
Speaker 1: And then again, Muhammad Lee died on a Palmer die
Speaker 1: before we gotta Sunday was tough. You wake up in
Speaker 1: the morning, you hear about a year old kids who
Speaker 1: dies in a boating accident. And then we fly home
Speaker 1: from Kansas City and you hear about Arnold Palmer dying.
Speaker 1: Just a legend eighty seven years old. And I know
Speaker 1: he lived a tremendous life, but it just gives you
Speaker 1: cause for pause when you have a day like that.
Speaker 1: Came out of nowhere. Listen, listen to who we lost
Speaker 1: this year. We lost mohamedan leader this year, one of
Speaker 1: the biggest, you know, most recognizable athletes in the world.
Speaker 1: Forget athlete, most recognizable person in the world. You know,
Speaker 1: it's amazing that, you know, we're losing all the great guys.
Speaker 1: You know, Prince died this year. You know we're losing
Speaker 1: all our heroes are dying. It's time and I don't
Speaker 1: really see where it's being replenished, where those great figures
Speaker 1: in sports and society are being replaced. Where's the next
Speaker 1: great leaders? Right? Don't see him. I did feel like
Speaker 1: and I don't know how you do, because you've been
Speaker 1: in the public eye for so long now during your
Speaker 1: playing career and now you're on CBS and you're a
Speaker 1: national presence, you are a national brand. I feel like
Speaker 1: these folks, the way we cover things nowadays is they
Speaker 1: don't allow anybody to be a hero. And when I
Speaker 1: say that, I mean with Twitter and the Ultimate responses,
Speaker 1: everybody has a flaw and we are going to crush you.
Speaker 1: Like Mohammed Ali, I feel like and stuff like that
Speaker 1: with de humanized. During his time, he got a lot
Speaker 1: of backlash for the stands he took, and then it
Speaker 1: took decades for people to say, hey, really, this guy
Speaker 1: did a lot of good and he stood by his
Speaker 1: principles and what he believed in, and then he got
Speaker 1: credit for it. I feel like if Muhammad Ali lived
Speaker 1: in a time like today, he would be vilified when
Speaker 1: they put him in jail. I don't know how much
Speaker 1: more then with the Twitter, you know, let's telling something.
Speaker 1: What have us now? Even if you think about one
Speaker 1: of the most famous athletes in the world, Lebron James,
Speaker 1: he's too assessible. She used to be that our stars
Speaker 1: were so unaccessible. We didn't really know much about them,
Speaker 1: so we put him on a pedestal. But now what
Speaker 1: happens is it's just like when you meet somebody famous, right,
Speaker 1: and that they're your hero, and the more you're around,
Speaker 1: the more normal they become. Right, So you take them
Speaker 1: off of that pedestal, they become normal to you. And
Speaker 1: that's what's happening with our stars. We look at Lebron
Speaker 1: like just a regular guy. He got problems or you
Speaker 1: know this happened, or we're looking for so many flaws.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, he's chewing his nails on the batch.
Speaker 1: That means that look at look at his hairline. He's
Speaker 1: not gonna be able to take control. Oh he didn't
Speaker 1: take the shot at that of the game. It's Lebron
Speaker 1: is a perfect example of that because he does not
Speaker 1: he doesn't have Jordan's personality, right Like Jordan's was a killer.
Speaker 1: He was a cold blooded killer, and Lebron is a
Speaker 1: tremendous player, but his personality is different. It's how society
Speaker 1: has changed, right. So it used to be like when
Speaker 1: you're my enemy, we weren't friend on the court. We
Speaker 1: want friends off the court. Now what happens is a
Speaker 1: lot of these kids that grow up going through the
Speaker 1: the AUTH circuit, so they're around each other, so they
Speaker 1: become friends, so they can be competitive and and play.
Speaker 1: But it's not that killer instinct, you know. You think
Speaker 1: about you know, I think about Bird and the Pistons,
Speaker 1: I think about Magic and the Celtics. I think about
Speaker 1: I think about Jordan. Listen, Jordan's kept Isaia off the
Speaker 1: off the uh off the Olympic team, and it was
Speaker 1: coached by his coach. So his coach couldn't get Isaiah
Speaker 1: on the on the Olympic team because Jordan hated Isaiah
Speaker 1: that bad that you wouldn't allow him to get an
Speaker 1: opportunity to become a Gold Mellist. When you try and
Speaker 1: tell me that he wasn't one of the best players
Speaker 1: at that time in the game, Come on, man, we
Speaker 1: love Stockton, but come on, man, what do you think
Speaker 1: Christian Lachner wouldn't had a spot? No? Well later was that? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the great college players, so they had to put him
Speaker 1: in there. Uh you just mentioned in the Pistons and
Speaker 1: Jordan's which goes you can you imagine the bad boys
Speaker 1: now the bad boys in today's era, they would be
Speaker 1: so villafied changed the rules. Yeah, they did it. But
Speaker 1: when those guys walked off the court when Jordan finally
Speaker 1: beat them, you're a competitor, and sometimes you were high
Speaker 1: and sometimes you were low, and you were all over
Speaker 1: the place. So when do you think about that because
Speaker 1: you grew up in Detroit. Well, well, I think they
Speaker 1: were the Pittons were conditioned to do that because that
Speaker 1: had happened to them when the Celtics they finally beat
Speaker 1: the Celtics. Remember the Celtics walked off the court too,
Speaker 1: So they were just doing what they thought great organizations did, like,
Speaker 1: you know, they walked off early, like, yeah, we lost,
Speaker 1: but we're not gonna give you satisfaction. We're not gonna
Speaker 1: give you the the appreciation or saying, you know, we're
Speaker 1: not comming. So it was it was a lack of it.
Speaker 1: But yeah, it was a lack of respect. We still
Speaker 1: hate you forget y'all. I hope you'll lose, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean. Where there was no passing the door.
Speaker 1: They never said it's all about we're giving it to you,
Speaker 1: now go get that. They said it was our fault.
Speaker 1: He took up. Whatever we're doing, right, we're not going
Speaker 1: quietly into the night. And remember when the Celtics finally lost,
Speaker 1: remember because Isaiah threw the ball in and it got
Speaker 1: stolen by bird and gave to Dennis Johnson. Yeah, well
Speaker 1: so that was like that was like eighty seven. The
Speaker 1: Pistons came back and finally beat them as they were
Speaker 1: getting older and eighty and as the Pistons were getting older,
Speaker 1: you know, and Jordan's finally got help because remember the
Speaker 1: year before, uh, Scotty got ill because he took a
Speaker 1: b to have migraints. He couldn't help. In Game seven,
Speaker 1: the Pistons came back and one when they went back
Speaker 1: to back. But you know, like the only person that
Speaker 1: could gratulate the Pistons when they finally beat the uh
Speaker 1: aging Celtics team was Kevin McKell. Remember the famous high
Speaker 1: five that he kind of gave to Isaiah before and
Speaker 1: they went and wanted, Um, that's just the way it's changed.
Speaker 1: It's the kids don't have that killer instinct and it's
Speaker 1: no right way wrong way because it's a different situation
Speaker 1: how they're growing up. You know, they're growing up together.
Speaker 1: So how can Carmelo hay Lebrown when they played against
Speaker 1: each other in college me in um the auth circuit
Speaker 1: and it was all over the world hanging out, probably
Speaker 1: playing video games. All of a sudden, I was supposed
Speaker 1: to hate you. You know, it's not like that. And
Speaker 1: and sometimes you get the old time talking about back
Speaker 1: in my day. But things change. I'm sure you know
Speaker 1: the people that things do change. But it is tough. Listen, me,
Speaker 1: Havan in this business now close to two decades, and
Speaker 1: you do sometimes and I know I sound like an
Speaker 1: old guy when I said that's what you do. Say. Well,
Speaker 1: back in the early nineties, you had dynasty teams in
Speaker 1: the National Football League or late eighties, you saw the
Speaker 1: forty Niners come up, and you know, the Bills want
Speaker 1: the four straight Super Bowls and that will never happen again.
Speaker 1: New England. New England's the only team who's had to
Speaker 1: back in a fifteen year run where you know they're
Speaker 1: gonna be in the playoffs. Right, Well, that's the difference things.
Speaker 1: You gotta understand. Free agency is different, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean? Agency changed everything, But you bunch of malone.
Speaker 1: It was Reeve, his uncle who was one of the right,
Speaker 1: who was very instrumental in that, and it gave gave
Speaker 1: the players flexibility, ga the players more power. You know,
Speaker 1: you talk you talk about you know, the early Dallas Cowboys.
Speaker 1: Those guys couldn't go anywhere, and you talk about you're
Speaker 1: talking about the Still Curtain in the seventies. Those guys
Speaker 1: are on the contract basically lifetime contracts. They couldn't go
Speaker 1: anywhere they wanted to. But then again, they couldn't get
Speaker 1: the financial benefits of being a free agent going to
Speaker 1: the free market. So it's a good thing for the players.
Speaker 1: It may not be a good thing for the fan
Speaker 1: base because they lose some of their stars. What do
Speaker 1: you think about it? I mean, as a fan, you
Speaker 1: have to understand, Like I always laugh when people want
Speaker 1: to criticize Kevin Durant, you know. And he finally came
Speaker 1: out and said, listen, we understand. You'all don't care about me.
Speaker 1: You don't care about my interests. All you care about
Speaker 1: is me and what I can do for your team.
Speaker 1: But also that you don't care about me. You don't
Speaker 1: care if I want to live in a city where
Speaker 1: I can go fishing. You don't care if I live
Speaker 1: in a city where I want to live in for
Speaker 1: the rest of my life. Or you don't care if
Speaker 1: I want to raise my family in a different place
Speaker 1: or something like that. You don't care. All you care
Speaker 1: about what I can do for you as soon as
Speaker 1: I'm not yours anymore. Now you hate me and you
Speaker 1: talk more? Could former fans talk more crap? How about
Speaker 1: Cleveland Burners Jersey? You come back? Now you love him again?
Speaker 1: But you like put his name through them, even the
Speaker 1: owner right, and then he left came back and now
Speaker 1: you now you love me. I don't have a problem
Speaker 1: with what Duranting, you know, because he thought this situation
Speaker 1: was past for him. And like you're saying it's free ency. Now,
Speaker 1: would I prefer in the in a dream world that
Speaker 1: he and Washbrook were an okay see for a long time. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but but I don't have a problem. Nobody cried when
Speaker 1: James Harden left. Nobody cry when Ibaka left. Nobody Abaka
Speaker 1: actually traded. You don't hear anybody criticizing him or burning
Speaker 1: his jersey. And Durant seems like a nice guy. It
Speaker 1: seems like one of the nice guys he left there
Speaker 1: from Seattle. It's his right to be a phrase. It's
Speaker 1: the second time he's a free agent. If he sees
Speaker 1: his trending, he wants to play, you only get one
Speaker 1: one go around at the same ben an athlete. I mean,
Speaker 1: it's no senior citizen circuit for for basketball players. If
Speaker 1: he wants to go play somewhere, that's his that's his prerocative.
Speaker 1: He gave you everything he had when he was there.
Speaker 1: You can't say didn't play her. You didn't say he
Speaker 1: didn't perform at a high level. If he decides to leave,
Speaker 1: that's his prerogative. How many how many people you know,
Speaker 1: those same people that are criticizing him, how many of
Speaker 1: those people would stay at the same job, offered a better,
Speaker 1: more tractive job. How many people, okay, see if they
Speaker 1: would offer the same job and up in a in
Speaker 1: a raising pay in l A would say no, I
Speaker 1: love Oklahoma. So we always asked our athletes to do
Speaker 1: something we wouldn't do in our lives. That we asked
Speaker 1: him to take less money. You asked him to not move,
Speaker 1: not to take their family considerations into into account, not
Speaker 1: not not not pay attention to markets or anything like that.
Speaker 1: But they wouldn't do it in their life. Oh, he's greedy.
Speaker 1: He shouldn't. He shouldn't want his money. So your boss
Speaker 1: tell you get this money, you're gonna say no, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: But you expect athletes to do it right. It's it's
Speaker 1: it's it's crazy hypocrisy. It is fascinating. Let's talk a little, Jets,
Speaker 1: let's do it. Uh. Green and White have to flush
Speaker 1: this out of their system quick, just like the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals game, because after that week, Todd Pole said a
Speaker 1: short week, we gotta move on the Buffalo and they did,
Speaker 1: indeed do just that. They loses Kansas City Turnover Festival.
Speaker 1: Ryan Fitzpatrick struggled. He admits to trying to do too
Speaker 1: much at times. Obviously that's what happens when you have
Speaker 1: a six interception game, you're still only lose by twenty one,
Speaker 1: which is saying something in itself. But now, how do
Speaker 1: you move quickly from that ball game to Seattle? Well,
Speaker 1: what happens there's snowballs, right. And sometimes when you you
Speaker 1: watch teams when they have a bad week, they come
Speaker 1: back and have a better week and people like, oh, well,
Speaker 1: why didn't they play with the same passion, because it's
Speaker 1: something about being desperate, and you gotta think they were
Speaker 1: facing a desperate team in the Kanda City Chiefs. What
Speaker 1: happened to them the week before they lost in Houston?
Speaker 1: Absolutely so they were so they were more in their
Speaker 1: game that they went. They had more attention to detail
Speaker 1: and practice. It probably got m MEF in practice in
Speaker 1: film room, they probably you know, were rolled up and
Speaker 1: they used the emotion of the crowd. Tony Richardson went
Speaker 1: into the Hall of Fame that day right in their ring,
Speaker 1: a lot of it was a lot of emotions there
Speaker 1: and the guys performed at a high level. And what
Speaker 1: happens is when you have mistakes, and if you want
Speaker 1: to talk about ran Fitzpatrick and the six interceptions only
Speaker 1: give him credit for three of them, you know, two
Speaker 1: deflective balls and the and the last one was just
Speaker 1: trying to take a shot and trying to get back
Speaker 1: in the game with a will route. But you gotta
Speaker 1: take your hats off to the defense because really the
Speaker 1: defense on the game up. All those turn off the
Speaker 1: defense on the game up ten points. You know, one
Speaker 1: was a fun ball and special teams or intercepted, I
Speaker 1: don't know what you want to say, because he caught
Speaker 1: it and went right into the guy's hands. That you
Speaker 1: know that one, and then I believe what was the other?
Speaker 1: It was after fence the first interception, which is Marcus
Speaker 1: Peters say, the thirty five drive and they catched in
Speaker 1: with the touchdown on Now, yeah, that's the only drive
Speaker 1: that they the other ones, am I am? I correct?
Speaker 1: Didn't they score two touchdowns, one on defense and one
Speaker 1: on offense. Yeah, Derrick Johnson scored So yeah, I mean,
Speaker 1: you're the thirty five yard drive off the turnover, you
Speaker 1: had Johnson's return for the touchdown and then teams return
Speaker 1: for a touchdown, So that's fourteen points point So it's
Speaker 1: ten points and seven of those came off thirty five
Speaker 1: yard drive. My point. So you know, as a defense,
Speaker 1: you gotta say listen and and you know we can't
Speaker 1: give up the thirty five yards no matter what. You know,
Speaker 1: you you strive for perfection. You always you're you're always
Speaker 1: you're always gonna fall short, but you always strive for perfection.
Speaker 1: Now listen, it's a lot of positives that go in
Speaker 1: when you want to give up ten points. You didn't
Speaker 1: hang your hat, you didn't point to finger at the offense.
Speaker 1: The team stayed together, you know, and you just move
Speaker 1: forward from there. You know what, you have to just
Speaker 1: weather this storm, this tough patch of your this tough
Speaker 1: stretch of your schedule, and make sure that you're peeking
Speaker 1: in November December playing the bestball. And you want to
Speaker 1: be in contention. You want to be in striking this far.
Speaker 1: Do you buy that because fans can watch a game
Speaker 1: and sometimes say team looks flat or they look lest less. You,
Speaker 1: as a former player, do you buy into any of that?
Speaker 1: Of course that can happen. But like you were saying,
Speaker 1: defense didn't give up too much. You just didn't have
Speaker 1: a big play to get you going right. You're just
Speaker 1: waiting for that that you know, the football guys you
Speaker 1: know usually bless you. Usually what happens is it's like
Speaker 1: you know, it swings back and forth, right, So sometimes
Speaker 1: like all the bombs go to to to you in
Speaker 1: the first half and use it goes to the other
Speaker 1: team in the second half. Well, it never went the
Speaker 1: other way. For for the Jets, they didn't get that
Speaker 1: big turnover, they didn't get that easy score. You know,
Speaker 1: they didn't get that momentum change in type of play.
Speaker 1: You know, they didn't get that. It just didn't happen.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it happens. And what happens is you try
Speaker 1: and stay within yourself and not pressed. But at some
Speaker 1: point you say maybe it's not gonna happen, you start pressing.
Speaker 1: So I think that Ryan fits practory because things weren't happening.
Speaker 1: Were trying to press, trying to get the big play,
Speaker 1: you know, trying to make sure that you continue to
Speaker 1: take the big shots to try and get the easy score.
Speaker 1: You want to get the easy score. Just think that
Speaker 1: the Kansas City Chiefs got two easy scores, like two scores.
Speaker 1: They didn't have to work for one play. Bam over
Speaker 1: with you know what I mean. So the Jets. We're
Speaker 1: looking for that one easy score just kind of change
Speaker 1: it to put the pressure back on Kansas City because
Speaker 1: the defense was playing well, if you could have put
Speaker 1: the pressure back on it, but you needed a big play,
Speaker 1: an easy score, a score that didn't take, you know,
Speaker 1: a six minute drive or seven minute drive. You need
Speaker 1: a thirty second score, a fumble or return from star
Speaker 1: press harder than the NFL. And you guys always say
Speaker 1: this to drive eight yards stuff when you're Nickelin and
Speaker 1: Diamond down the field and the big explosion, and they
Speaker 1: were forcing them to the justice stay patient, and you
Speaker 1: know when you play patient, eventually you have to try
Speaker 1: and take a shot and stay aggressive. And they capitalized
Speaker 1: when they were trying to be aggressive. How can they
Speaker 1: match up offensively with the Seattle's defense. We talked about
Speaker 1: it on our film review that people can watch it.
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Speaker 1: But how can no offense match up with this defense
Speaker 1: that's been together for a number of years. And you
Speaker 1: talked about it on our film review. They got a
Speaker 1: loaded secondary still guys who have a lot of chemistry
Speaker 1: back there. And when I think about Seattle's defense, I
Speaker 1: think of all levels because of course Richard Sherman, Chancellor
Speaker 1: and the Earl Thomas, but Michael Bennett is one of
Speaker 1: the better defensive lineman and the national football game, Bobby
Speaker 1: Wecht is one of the top liner. He's disruptive, you know,
Speaker 1: talking about Benny, He's disruptive and they use him everywhere.
Speaker 1: They'll isolate him on guards. I expect them to try
Speaker 1: and get him match up on one of the guards
Speaker 1: because he's you know, he's a smaller guy if you
Speaker 1: put him inside, but he's so quick and he's so
Speaker 1: exposed and powerful that he can get early pressure on
Speaker 1: the quarterback and flush him out. You know, they do
Speaker 1: a great job and that you know, but we all
Speaker 1: know that to see how the Seahawks really play cover three.
Speaker 1: So what you wanna do is much like teams you
Speaker 1: just try and do with Polamalu. You know, you want
Speaker 1: to try and get him isolated with formation, with shifts
Speaker 1: and in motions to try and get him matched up
Speaker 1: and force him to cover cam Chancler not not to
Speaker 1: cover and and and um not to cover in space
Speaker 1: in his zone, but you want to force him to
Speaker 1: try and carry you long, so all zones become man
Speaker 1: and man after a certain amount of time. So they
Speaker 1: play cover three. So if you run a vertical route
Speaker 1: four birds which cover three, you only have three dep
Speaker 1: that means somebody underneath has to carry. Well. A lot
Speaker 1: of times that's gonna be uh Cam Chancellor, and he
Speaker 1: struggles in coverage and a lot of teams last year.
Speaker 1: You think about last year when the Carolina Panthers beat him,
Speaker 1: they use ocean right up the scene, right, And that's
Speaker 1: what you wanna do. You want to try and get
Speaker 1: him out of his comfort zone, make him have to
Speaker 1: cover and covering space against one of your better guys.
Speaker 1: And you can do that because you understand that a
Speaker 1: lot of times they don't match up Richard Sherman. If
Speaker 1: it's covered three his own, he's going to be outside
Speaker 1: and you you can put your your your studs inside
Speaker 1: and that matches them up against either Wagner or matches
Speaker 1: them up against Cam Chancellor, Earl Bennett, which Earl Thomas,
Speaker 1: which I think is an advantage to the Jets because
Speaker 1: they have so much depth that they can go for
Speaker 1: receivers and force those guys that have to cover. This
Speaker 1: is the podcast that is Bart Scott is it is
Speaker 1: no As you mentioned, Jen Galile's got some options. He
Speaker 1: could put Dr Air Marshall inside and Richard Sherman a
Speaker 1: lot of times, it's gonna stay outside no matter who
Speaker 1: is inside. Who do you think it makes? Makes it
Speaker 1: all go back there when you say I've spent saying
Speaker 1: for years now you're more of an expert than me.
Speaker 1: But I've been saying for years at secondaries all about
Speaker 1: Earl Thomas, Well, Earl Thomas is uh. He's explosive. He's
Speaker 1: one of the better you know, to me, the two
Speaker 1: young you know studs at that position. You know some
Speaker 1: people I like Tyson Gibson a little bit, but he's
Speaker 1: he's going to get lost down there in Axonville. You
Speaker 1: know Eric Berry and you talk about Earl Thomas, two
Speaker 1: of the younger, most explosive playmaking type of um safeties.
Speaker 1: You know, when I think about Thomas, I think of
Speaker 1: Bob Sanders and he's a physical guy. He can close,
Speaker 1: he can cover a lot of ground, and he's very
Speaker 1: physical at the point of attack. He's going to cut
Speaker 1: your legs out. He's gonna, you know, get there. He's
Speaker 1: even though he's small, he plays big, you know. So
Speaker 1: he's the guy that you have to count Ford Camas
Speaker 1: like the devastate, He's like the Marshall Lench. He sets
Speaker 1: the temple for them. He gets the big that gets
Speaker 1: everybody ready to go, like right with Marsha right exactly,
Speaker 1: or like when Chris Ivey come down and run somebody over.
Speaker 1: It energies the entire team, you know, so you have
Speaker 1: to make sure that you get him down and not
Speaker 1: feeling great. But also if you get an opportunity with Thomas,
Speaker 1: I take that. I'll take that match up against Thomas
Speaker 1: and Decker or Thomas and Marshall every day of the week,
Speaker 1: even Thomas in the now while because he's a smaller guy.
Speaker 1: He's short, so you know, the catch rateers is larger
Speaker 1: than his defense raiders. So he's right. So you throw
Speaker 1: the ball up top. He can't get there, you know.
Speaker 1: All he can hope is to try and strip it
Speaker 1: out your head. You catch at as highest point. He
Speaker 1: can't climb that high part. Scott is telling you the
Speaker 1: Jets gotta attack offensively, saying four verticals and that's what
Speaker 1: we saw a lot against the Buffalo Bills, and the
Speaker 1: Jets took advantage of that. So they'll be a comeback
Speaker 1: mode offensively this week. We know that a great challenge
Speaker 1: I had Robby Anderson made a couple of catches and
Speaker 1: the kid could fly. Maybe they'll use him a little
Speaker 1: bit outside this week. He can, he can stretch his own.
Speaker 1: But what's going to be important is they have to
Speaker 1: keep their eye on Tiler Lock It not so much.
Speaker 1: You know, you gotta watch him in the in the
Speaker 1: in the passing game, but you can't have let downs
Speaker 1: because he's special returning the ball. He can't you can't
Speaker 1: allow him to to flip the field position and establish
Speaker 1: you know, feel you know, great field position for the
Speaker 1: for the team because he's able to flip the flip
Speaker 1: the field quickly because he's really electric. He's one of
Speaker 1: the better young returners. So if you can you know,
Speaker 1: I know a lot of people are doing these blue
Speaker 1: kicks and things like that, just kick the ball. A
Speaker 1: lot of ends on. Give him the ball at the five,
Speaker 1: don't give him an opportunity to make a big impact play.
Speaker 1: I like him a lot. He made a lot of
Speaker 1: plays in Kansas State and he got knocked four size.
Speaker 1: That's why he goes a little bit later in the draft.
Speaker 1: But he's just a good football player. He can make
Speaker 1: plays as a receiver to Locket's explosive Yeah, and you
Speaker 1: matchin Yeah, and you talked about Yeah, Jimmy Graham. You know,
Speaker 1: last year, I think they really couldn't find a rhythm.
Speaker 1: They didn't know how to use them, and their offense
Speaker 1: took off when he got hurt. But last week you
Speaker 1: talked about him elite tight end, a past receiving tight
Speaker 1: and you don't have to worry about him much in
Speaker 1: the run game. So very much like Kelsey because he
Speaker 1: said the same thing as Kelsey last week. Not not
Speaker 1: a guy who's gonna be an imposing blocker. Right, They're
Speaker 1: gonna move him around. They're gonna move him around, get
Speaker 1: get the matchups. And also they're gonna they're gonna see
Speaker 1: if the Jets made the corrections. You know what what
Speaker 1: they did last week? They run you know, clear house
Speaker 1: and they kind of let Kelsey sneak out, you know,
Speaker 1: behind because everybody knows that the Jets, you know, play
Speaker 1: a lot of man to man defense. So now what
Speaker 1: happens is you run over routes and guys can get
Speaker 1: caught up in the trash, and you get a guy
Speaker 1: like Jimmy Graham, you know, who doesn't run as well
Speaker 1: after the catch as Kelsey, but he can make the
Speaker 1: catch and get a couple of yards afterwards. Kelsey is
Speaker 1: the guy who wants he catches it. He's one of
Speaker 1: the better, you know, run after the catch tight ends,
Speaker 1: but you still have the same post, the same problem
Speaker 1: because Jimmy Graham can high point the ball and if
Speaker 1: you're if you plan that, you're gonna have to communicate
Speaker 1: with the linebackers and say, hey, give me some help.
Speaker 1: Or if you have the running back and you're running
Speaker 1: back stays in. You see Jimmy Graham coming underneath shallow
Speaker 1: underneath the linebackers, you know, and I have a man
Speaker 1: of man, give me, give me the hamburger helper, give
Speaker 1: him a chip on the way out, slow him down
Speaker 1: so I can catch up. And you said communication will
Speaker 1: be key again this week, especially if they're trying to
Speaker 1: get Jimmy Graham involved in this game early between the
Speaker 1: linebackers and the secondary. Russell Wilson loves going to Doug Baldwin,
Speaker 1: who's not a prototypical number one receiver, but he's just
Speaker 1: a productive dude, scrappy he were reminds me of this.
Speaker 1: This receiving staff reminds me of the Patriots old staff
Speaker 1: with Branch, Patton and Troy Brown. Brown. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying. You can put Tyler Locketted Troy Brown. You
Speaker 1: could put Balling to replace Patton and Curse to replace Branch.
Speaker 1: You know, they just play well together. They're scrappy group.
Speaker 1: They're not a highly decorated group. But you talk about
Speaker 1: last year. You know, nobody had more touchdowns in the
Speaker 1: second half of the year than you know, Russell to Balling,
Speaker 1: you know, he's really scrappy. He's competitive because he had
Speaker 1: to fight for everything that that he's gotten and they
Speaker 1: rewarded him with a lucrative deal. But he's still bringing
Speaker 1: that same type of passion. And with Russell, you broken down.
Speaker 1: Great on film is that he breaks contained and you're done.
Speaker 1: You're done because he's either getting fifteen or twenty on
Speaker 1: the ground and not taking the big hit, or he's
Speaker 1: going out top vertically because his small stature. The funny
Speaker 1: thing about him coming out was people are like the
Speaker 1: arms strength. I don't know about the arms strength. He
Speaker 1: he throws in the game on a rope, on a rope,
Speaker 1: you know. I know Flacco would say a little bit
Speaker 1: about that. But you know, Russell Wilson what makes him
Speaker 1: so special. He's able to buy time. But he's not
Speaker 1: a guy that's going to panic in the pocket and
Speaker 1: just run and start looking to run immediately. His eyes
Speaker 1: are always downfield and they understand. Much like Ben Roethlisberger.
Speaker 1: When he gets out, everybody turns their routes and they
Speaker 1: go vertical, and he's able to find him. But what
Speaker 1: happens is when he turned vertical, if you're in a zone,
Speaker 1: sometimes you lose your guy because he's running vertical and
Speaker 1: that's not your zone anymore. But the guy that's deep
Speaker 1: is gone because everybody's turning up. So you saw it
Speaker 1: last week when he bought time that he was able
Speaker 1: to find Jimmy Graham because once it was a zone,
Speaker 1: people clear his own. Now his zones expand, you know,
Speaker 1: and he's able to buy time because he's a dual
Speaker 1: threat and he doesn't take big hits. He always slides.
Speaker 1: You know, he's great baseball players, so he knows how
Speaker 1: to slide get down early, but he kills you and
Speaker 1: that's what happens. And he usually waits to the second
Speaker 1: half when the game is on the line to do that.
Speaker 1: He's Injured's gonna be important for the Jets not to
Speaker 1: get past We talked about rushing the edges. We talked
Speaker 1: about never getting past quarterback debt, because when you get
Speaker 1: past quarterback depth, you allowed the quarterback to step up
Speaker 1: and step out. You want him to be able to throw,
Speaker 1: have to throw the ball from a phone bull if
Speaker 1: you want him contain where He's not the tallest guy,
Speaker 1: so he needs lanes to see through and to throw
Speaker 1: through the same lanes that he throw through he run through.
Speaker 1: But if you keep them bottled up, now he has
Speaker 1: to try and throw over the top. You guys love that.
Speaker 1: As players, we hear that all this week is maintained rush. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and we always we always use that against Michael Vick
Speaker 1: because Michael Vick wasn't tossor you know, like Brady, like Peyton,
Speaker 1: like uh even Luck or Cam Newton who can throw
Speaker 1: over the defense because they're they're actually just as tall
Speaker 1: as their linement, so they can throw over. You want
Speaker 1: to try and start the pocket and destroy his vision
Speaker 1: to make him have to move left or right. In
Speaker 1: our paper that Jets shouldn't be able to do that.
Speaker 1: I'm not taking anything away. It's not great offensive line. Yeah,
Speaker 1: we're not taking shots here, but this is the unit
Speaker 1: that is struggle and keep it really going wrong. Any
Speaker 1: are you looking at Muhammad Welkers since Sheldon Richardson who
Speaker 1: you're sitting down with on Friday, I'm excited to watch
Speaker 1: that one. Um. Leonard Williams is a beast in the
Speaker 1: second season. Steve McLean has been a nice pick up.
Speaker 1: I'm saying on paper, the Jets defensive line could make
Speaker 1: this a long afternoon for Russell Wilson because while Michael
Speaker 1: has got some nice numbers, no Mars Shawn Lynch there anymore.
Speaker 1: In Seattle's games, they're still trying to figure it out
Speaker 1: right who they're going to be this year. And you know,
Speaker 1: I like how they use Lee last last week against
Speaker 1: Alex Smith, who's an underrated athletic guy. But you know,
Speaker 1: you also can use with some of the same principles
Speaker 1: right with him spine as well, So when he does
Speaker 1: do that, you put the pressure on him to make
Speaker 1: him have to make a decision earlier, can allow him
Speaker 1: to go dit back there, because he'll he'll he'll pivot,
Speaker 1: he'll know speed turned lose ground and come up, you know,
Speaker 1: and run around out back there. But your force your
Speaker 1: corners to have the cover for six seven seconds and
Speaker 1: he'll find somebody event, you know, So you put the
Speaker 1: spy on him, so as soon as he breaks contain,
Speaker 1: you got somebody right there in his face, making him
Speaker 1: have to make a decision. Styles make fights. Do you
Speaker 1: like the matchup for the Jets? I like this matchup.
Speaker 1: I like this matchup a lot um. Also, I think
Speaker 1: it's important that they jump on him early and make
Speaker 1: sure that they set the tone early with getting to
Speaker 1: get into Russell Wilson. You know, you watch steal Um,
Speaker 1: You watch how Miami got out thro the when they
Speaker 1: went out there and the rams they always the random
Speaker 1: But we're talking but then, but what's up front exact?
Speaker 1: Combinate with the defensive line exact? Why that's what makes
Speaker 1: them different cause they don't have to blitz because they
Speaker 1: have a great front four that can beat their line.
Speaker 1: So the Jets, you know, I would say, you know,
Speaker 1: you talk about the best you know front four, you
Speaker 1: would have to say that the Rams and the Jets
Speaker 1: are pretty similar. I would give the edge to the Jets.
Speaker 1: You know, so playing a lot of four three this
Speaker 1: year too, because you're getting your best players on the field.
Speaker 1: Last week we saw a lot of David Harrison in
Speaker 1: the middle flanked by two rookie line packers, and I
Speaker 1: thought both of them showed uh, showed up. Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Jordan Jenkins, I think he's got old man strength. Their
Speaker 1: third round pick from Georgia. He just comes in there
Speaker 1: and he's got a lot of young guys. You can
Speaker 1: tell they gotta put on weight and things like that.
Speaker 1: I think he kind of has it and then Lee
Speaker 1: uh ways to go. But he's showing that a lesson
Speaker 1: as well. Alright, so next week, since we talked to
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