WEBVTT - EA Podcast: Episode 7 Featuring Bart Scott

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, this is Ryan Fitzpatrick and you are listening to

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<v Speaker 1>the e A Podcast with Eric Allen. Take it away.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for that, it's appreciate. Okay, we're back here on

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<v Speaker 1>the A Podcast, Part Scott in studio. Before we talked

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<v Speaker 1>New York Jets football. There was something on television this

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<v Speaker 1>week that a four million people watched the presidential debate

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<v Speaker 1>between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton. Did you watch part Scott?

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<v Speaker 1>You know what's crazy. I watched. I wanted. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>watch football. I watched the debate. It was entertaining. Man,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what you know. I don't know about

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<v Speaker 1>the body chemistry experts and all that stuff, but it

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<v Speaker 1>was awkward watching Donald Trump and his spirits split screen.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he couldn't be able his best behavior for

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<v Speaker 1>the entire time. Man, you heard you heard some some glory.

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<v Speaker 1>He was thirsty, his throat was dry, he was he

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<v Speaker 1>was disruptive, you know. And that's him on his good behavior,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, on the on the Republican primaries, and even

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<v Speaker 1>crazy because then it's kind of hard for him. He's

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<v Speaker 1>between the rock and Hart Pleace. He can't really insult,

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<v Speaker 1>insult a lady, you know, he can't really call it

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<v Speaker 1>a little Marie, you know, a little ruby o and

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<v Speaker 1>all that type of stuff. So he was trying to

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<v Speaker 1>build his best behavior. But you could see that she

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<v Speaker 1>was poking a bear and getting underneath the skin. It

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<v Speaker 1>was it was hilarious. It was fun to watch. But

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it's what what was was interesting to me.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know how you said, is how the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between the way sin then covers it and the difference

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<v Speaker 1>between Fox. Now listen to me watching, I think he lost.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't do a great job. He may have had

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<v Speaker 1>a couple of moments where he was more informed than others,

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<v Speaker 1>but he didn't come off presidential to me. But you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to them, they're like, oh my god, like like

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<v Speaker 1>he was like Martin Luther King or something like he

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<v Speaker 1>galvanized the world or something like. It was like it

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing. Then you turn the center, didn't turn to

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<v Speaker 1>sit and then they're like, man, that's the worst debate.

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<v Speaker 1>He lost, blah blah blah. But there's no middle ground,

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<v Speaker 1>never a middle cround. So I was always searching the television,

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<v Speaker 1>and I used to watch CNN a lot, and sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>I sometimes they go down on my son BC. But

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<v Speaker 1>again those are not worth. It's that I have a

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<v Speaker 1>left leaning and I'll say it right now. We're not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get two potter. But I'm an independent, so that's

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel. I don't know what I listened. I lit,

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<v Speaker 1>I judge based on the person and listen. If I

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<v Speaker 1>had a choice, I wouldn't vote for anybody that I

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<v Speaker 1>would go none of the above. I forgot what movie

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<v Speaker 1>that was when you vote none of the above. I

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<v Speaker 1>think it was something with no no. I think it

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<v Speaker 1>was Eddie Murphy when the guy died, um and he

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<v Speaker 1>was maybe he died and he was the Uh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was Eddie Murphy. The guy died, he used his name.

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<v Speaker 1>And people are just so used to just voting for

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<v Speaker 1>the person in name that something Jefferson. They always vote

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<v Speaker 1>for the name, so they never even looked a pat

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<v Speaker 1>attention to the ballot. You know, let me let me

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<v Speaker 1>look this up here. But I'll tell you what, man

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<v Speaker 1>like Jesus God. Now, there's a lot of people who

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<v Speaker 1>say that people would react differently if they turned it down.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I'm not one of those guys who are

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<v Speaker 1>gonna watch you with the sound up and then see

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<v Speaker 1>how I feel about it just by watching their facial gestures.

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<v Speaker 1>But there are folks to say they react differently to

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<v Speaker 1>it by hearing what they say and then their facial reactions. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you got these body language experts to come

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<v Speaker 1>in and say that you know, he was drinking because

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<v Speaker 1>he was getting nervous and he was anxious and had anxiety,

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<v Speaker 1>and you say she was you know, you can tell

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<v Speaker 1>when he when he brought up the emails, how that

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<v Speaker 1>you know she started blinking, you know, rapidly blinking. So

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<v Speaker 1>so what I'm trying to do is figure out how

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<v Speaker 1>I can use these But when I'm trying to get

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<v Speaker 1>out of something with my wife, how can I use

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<v Speaker 1>my body language? Sure, because if you start blinking, you

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<v Speaker 1>know something that's going on, or you scratch. Why are

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<v Speaker 1>they against water? I like water? You know me, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>always drinking. They tell you to drink a hundred ounces

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<v Speaker 1>a day with this guy in a couple of SIPs

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<v Speaker 1>of water, and they're like different times, he had eleven

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<v Speaker 1>different times, And in their little glasses, I think somebody's

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<v Speaker 1>under that refilling them. And then you know, I think

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<v Speaker 1>they say he interrupted her seventy times. You can get

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<v Speaker 1>away with that and be loud and bragg your doshes

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<v Speaker 1>and like over over, you know, over talk, you know

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<v Speaker 1>in the in the Republican primary, right right, right, He's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of like, you know, it's a show, but when

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<v Speaker 1>it's just two people, it comes off as annoying and arrogant.

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<v Speaker 1>And what do you think about what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>about the crowd though, because they tell people to come

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<v Speaker 1>in there and be silent. But my counter would be,

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<v Speaker 1>we used to work at Hofstra back in the day.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh that's where the Jets home was and I worked

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<v Speaker 1>there from two thousand one to two thousand and eight

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<v Speaker 1>when this building started. But they tell people in that

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<v Speaker 1>auditorium to come in and don't say anything. But then

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<v Speaker 1>why do they want him there? You know what I'm

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<v Speaker 1>saying exactly. We don't even have the show them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess for atmosphere. You know, they like the handshakes

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<v Speaker 1>at that I guess you know, everybody's gotta claim victory

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<v Speaker 1>and then there's that awkward handshake at the you know,

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<v Speaker 1>like the little lea you just talk stuff about me,

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<v Speaker 1>And they even talked about the handshake. They talked about

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<v Speaker 1>that he invaded her personal space as he put her in,

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<v Speaker 1>and he patted her on the back, but they say

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<v Speaker 1>she should have looked at there's what are you supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to do? I hate him. He's talking about he's been

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<v Speaker 1>talking crap about my about my husband and talking about

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<v Speaker 1>threatening to bringing Cheetah. She's bringing in, you know, Mark Cuban,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, to come in somebody. I don't agree with she.

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<v Speaker 1>She's making all these uh ads about him and his past.

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<v Speaker 1>It's so hard when it gets personal. How would you

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<v Speaker 1>handle that if you were a presidential candidate? Somebody was

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<v Speaker 1>talking because he went at her for going at Barack Obama,

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<v Speaker 1>but then he went after everybody in his party. But

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<v Speaker 1>now they became friends. So now you hear uh Christie

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<v Speaker 1>like Ben Carson's, they're like, man, what are you doing? Man?

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<v Speaker 1>The funniest thing for me is uh and I you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I do a radio show with CPS and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just so Paul last week when I saw Don King

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<v Speaker 1>come out and listen. If Don King wants to support

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump, I'm fine. But whoever is advises Donald Trump.

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<v Speaker 1>The fact that they thought that bringing Don King was

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<v Speaker 1>gonna bring it in the black boat have got to

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<v Speaker 1>be has to have lost their mind and be crazy.

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<v Speaker 1>Like I said before on my show. I said, listen,

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<v Speaker 1>black people don't like Don King. You can't find find

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<v Speaker 1>people in their family that like Don King. And I

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<v Speaker 1>said that Don King has ribbed more Black people than

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<v Speaker 1>Omar from the wire, like I brought up all five

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<v Speaker 1>of the lawsuits that he had, from Tim Witherspoon to

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<v Speaker 1>Muhammad Lead to Muhammed to Mike Tyson to George Form,

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<v Speaker 1>all the people that have sued him in court. And

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<v Speaker 1>you think that's gonna bring the black boat. You just

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<v Speaker 1>lost the black boat. You want the black you better

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<v Speaker 1>get Oprah on your side. Don King is pretty old.

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<v Speaker 1>Old people like that don't die. We lose all the

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<v Speaker 1>good ones, all the shakes, and criminals and crooks live forever.

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<v Speaker 1>And then again, Muhammad Lee died on a Palmer die

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<v Speaker 1>before we gotta Sunday was tough. You wake up in

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<v Speaker 1>the morning, you hear about a year old kids who

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<v Speaker 1>dies in a boating accident. And then we fly home

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<v Speaker 1>from Kansas City and you hear about Arnold Palmer dying.

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<v Speaker 1>Just a legend eighty seven years old. And I know

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<v Speaker 1>he lived a tremendous life, but it just gives you

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<v Speaker 1>cause for pause when you have a day like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Came out of nowhere. Listen, listen to who we lost

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<v Speaker 1>this year. We lost mohamedan leader this year, one of

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<v Speaker 1>the biggest, you know, most recognizable athletes in the world.

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<v Speaker 1>Forget athlete, most recognizable person in the world. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's amazing that, you know, we're losing all the great guys.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, Prince died this year. You know we're losing

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<v Speaker 1>all our heroes are dying. It's time and I don't

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<v Speaker 1>really see where it's being replenished, where those great figures

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<v Speaker 1>in sports and society are being replaced. Where's the next

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<v Speaker 1>great leaders? Right? Don't see him. I did feel like

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<v Speaker 1>and I don't know how you do, because you've been

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<v Speaker 1>in the public eye for so long now during your

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<v Speaker 1>playing career and now you're on CBS and you're a

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<v Speaker 1>national presence, you are a national brand. I feel like

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<v Speaker 1>these folks, the way we cover things nowadays is they

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<v Speaker 1>don't allow anybody to be a hero. And when I

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<v Speaker 1>say that, I mean with Twitter and the Ultimate responses,

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<v Speaker 1>everybody has a flaw and we are going to crush you.

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<v Speaker 1>Like Mohammed Ali, I feel like and stuff like that

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<v Speaker 1>with de humanized. During his time, he got a lot

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<v Speaker 1>of backlash for the stands he took, and then it

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<v Speaker 1>took decades for people to say, hey, really, this guy

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<v Speaker 1>did a lot of good and he stood by his

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<v Speaker 1>principles and what he believed in, and then he got

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<v Speaker 1>credit for it. I feel like if Muhammad Ali lived

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<v Speaker 1>in a time like today, he would be vilified when

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<v Speaker 1>they put him in jail. I don't know how much

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<v Speaker 1>more then with the Twitter, you know, let's telling something.

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<v Speaker 1>What have us now? Even if you think about one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most famous athletes in the world, Lebron James,

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<v Speaker 1>he's too assessible. She used to be that our stars

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<v Speaker 1>were so unaccessible. We didn't really know much about them,

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<v Speaker 1>so we put him on a pedestal. But now what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is it's just like when you meet somebody famous, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and that they're your hero, and the more you're around,

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<v Speaker 1>the more normal they become. Right, So you take them

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<v Speaker 1>off of that pedestal, they become normal to you. And

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<v Speaker 1>that's what's happening with our stars. We look at Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>like just a regular guy. He got problems or you

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<v Speaker 1>know this happened, or we're looking for so many flaws.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, he's chewing his nails on the batch.

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<v Speaker 1>That means that look at look at his hairline. He's

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<v Speaker 1>not gonna be able to take control. Oh he didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take the shot at that of the game. It's Lebron

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<v Speaker 1>is a perfect example of that because he does not

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<v Speaker 1>he doesn't have Jordan's personality, right Like Jordan's was a killer.

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<v Speaker 1>He was a cold blooded killer, and Lebron is a

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<v Speaker 1>tremendous player, but his personality is different. It's how society

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<v Speaker 1>has changed, right. So it used to be like when

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<v Speaker 1>you're my enemy, we weren't friend on the court. We

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<v Speaker 1>want friends off the court. Now what happens is a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of these kids that grow up going through the

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<v Speaker 1>the AUTH circuit, so they're around each other, so they

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<v Speaker 1>become friends, so they can be competitive and and play.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not that killer instinct, you know. You think

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<v Speaker 1>about you know, I think about Bird and the Pistons,

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<v Speaker 1>I think about Magic and the Celtics. I think about

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<v Speaker 1>I think about Jordan. Listen, Jordan's kept Isaia off the

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<v Speaker 1>off the uh off the Olympic team, and it was

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<v Speaker 1>coached by his coach. So his coach couldn't get Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>on the on the Olympic team because Jordan hated Isaiah

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<v Speaker 1>that bad that you wouldn't allow him to get an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to become a Gold Mellist. When you try and

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<v Speaker 1>tell me that he wasn't one of the best players

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<v Speaker 1>at that time in the game, Come on, man, we

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<v Speaker 1>love Stockton, but come on, man, what do you think

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Lachner wouldn't had a spot? No? Well later was that? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the great college players, so they had to put him

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<v Speaker 1>in there. Uh you just mentioned in the Pistons and

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan's which goes you can you imagine the bad boys

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<v Speaker 1>now the bad boys in today's era, they would be

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<v Speaker 1>so villafied changed the rules. Yeah, they did it. But

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<v Speaker 1>when those guys walked off the court when Jordan finally

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<v Speaker 1>beat them, you're a competitor, and sometimes you were high

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you were low, and you were all over

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<v Speaker 1>the place. So when do you think about that because

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<v Speaker 1>you grew up in Detroit. Well, well, I think they

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<v Speaker 1>were the Pittons were conditioned to do that because that

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<v Speaker 1>had happened to them when the Celtics they finally beat

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<v Speaker 1>the Celtics. Remember the Celtics walked off the court too,

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<v Speaker 1>So they were just doing what they thought great organizations did, like,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, they walked off early, like, yeah, we lost,

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<v Speaker 1>but we're not gonna give you satisfaction. We're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>give you the the appreciation or saying, you know, we're

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<v Speaker 1>not comming. So it was it was a lack of it.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, it was a lack of respect. We still

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<v Speaker 1>hate you forget y'all. I hope you'll lose, you know

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<v Speaker 1>what I mean. Where there was no passing the door.

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<v Speaker 1>They never said it's all about we're giving it to you,

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<v Speaker 1>now go get that. They said it was our fault.

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<v Speaker 1>He took up. Whatever we're doing, right, we're not going

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<v Speaker 1>quietly into the night. And remember when the Celtics finally lost,

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<v Speaker 1>remember because Isaiah threw the ball in and it got

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<v Speaker 1>stolen by bird and gave to Dennis Johnson. Yeah, well

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<v Speaker 1>so that was like that was like eighty seven. The

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<v Speaker 1>Pistons came back and finally beat them as they were

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<v Speaker 1>getting older and eighty and as the Pistons were getting older,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, and Jordan's finally got help because remember the

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<v Speaker 1>year before, uh, Scotty got ill because he took a

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<v Speaker 1>b to have migraints. He couldn't help. In Game seven,

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<v Speaker 1>the Pistons came back and one when they went back

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<v Speaker 1>to back. But you know, like the only person that

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<v Speaker 1>could gratulate the Pistons when they finally beat the uh

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<v Speaker 1>aging Celtics team was Kevin McKell. Remember the famous high

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<v Speaker 1>five that he kind of gave to Isaiah before and

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<v Speaker 1>they went and wanted, Um, that's just the way it's changed.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the kids don't have that killer instinct and it's

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<v Speaker 1>no right way wrong way because it's a different situation

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<v Speaker 1>how they're growing up. You know, they're growing up together.

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<v Speaker 1>So how can Carmelo hay Lebrown when they played against

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<v Speaker 1>each other in college me in um the auth circuit

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<v Speaker 1>and it was all over the world hanging out, probably

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<v Speaker 1>playing video games. All of a sudden, I was supposed

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<v Speaker 1>to hate you. You know, it's not like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes you get the old time talking about back

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<v Speaker 1>in my day. But things change. I'm sure you know

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<v Speaker 1>the people that things do change. But it is tough. Listen, me,

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<v Speaker 1>Havan in this business now close to two decades, and

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<v Speaker 1>you do sometimes and I know I sound like an

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<v Speaker 1>old guy when I said that's what you do. Say. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>back in the early nineties, you had dynasty teams in

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<v Speaker 1>the National Football League or late eighties, you saw the

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<v Speaker 1>forty Niners come up, and you know, the Bills want

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<v Speaker 1>the four straight Super Bowls and that will never happen again.

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<v Speaker 1>New England. New England's the only team who's had to

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<v Speaker 1>back in a fifteen year run where you know they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be in the playoffs. Right, Well, that's the difference things.

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<v Speaker 1>You gotta understand. Free agency is different, you know what

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<v Speaker 1>I mean? Agency changed everything, But you bunch of malone.

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<v Speaker 1>It was Reeve, his uncle who was one of the right,

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<v Speaker 1>who was very instrumental in that, and it gave gave

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<v Speaker 1>the players flexibility, ga the players more power. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk you talk about you know, the early Dallas Cowboys.

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<v Speaker 1>Those guys couldn't go anywhere, and you talk about you're

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<v Speaker 1>talking about the Still Curtain in the seventies. Those guys

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<v Speaker 1>are on the contract basically lifetime contracts. They couldn't go

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<v Speaker 1>anywhere they wanted to. But then again, they couldn't get

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<v Speaker 1>the financial benefits of being a free agent going to

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<v Speaker 1>the free market. So it's a good thing for the players.

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<v Speaker 1>It may not be a good thing for the fan

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<v Speaker 1>base because they lose some of their stars. What do

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<v Speaker 1>you think about it? I mean, as a fan, you

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<v Speaker 1>have to understand, Like I always laugh when people want

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<v Speaker 1>to criticize Kevin Durant, you know. And he finally came

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<v Speaker 1>out and said, listen, we understand. You'all don't care about me.

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<v Speaker 1>You don't care about my interests. All you care about

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<v Speaker 1>is me and what I can do for your team.

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<v Speaker 1>But also that you don't care about me. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>care if I want to live in a city where

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<v Speaker 1>I can go fishing. You don't care if I live

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<v Speaker 1>in a city where I want to live in for

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<v Speaker 1>the rest of my life. Or you don't care if

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<v Speaker 1>I want to raise my family in a different place

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<v Speaker 1>or something like that. You don't care. All you care

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<v Speaker 1>about what I can do for you as soon as

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not yours anymore. Now you hate me and you

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<v Speaker 1>talk more? Could former fans talk more crap? How about

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<v Speaker 1>Cleveland Burners Jersey? You come back? Now you love him again?

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<v Speaker 1>But you like put his name through them, even the

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<v Speaker 1>owner right, and then he left came back and now

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<v Speaker 1>you now you love me. I don't have a problem

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<v Speaker 1>with what Duranting, you know, because he thought this situation

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<v Speaker 1>was past for him. And like you're saying it's free ency. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>would I prefer in the in a dream world that

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<v Speaker 1>he and Washbrook were an okay see for a long time. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but but I don't have a problem. Nobody cried when

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<v Speaker 1>James Harden left. Nobody cry when Ibaka left. Nobody Abaka

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<v Speaker 1>actually traded. You don't hear anybody criticizing him or burning

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<v Speaker 1>his jersey. And Durant seems like a nice guy. It

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<v Speaker 1>seems like one of the nice guys he left there

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<v Speaker 1>from Seattle. It's his right to be a phrase. It's

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<v Speaker 1>the second time he's a free agent. If he sees

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<v Speaker 1>his trending, he wants to play, you only get one

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<v Speaker 1>one go around at the same ben an athlete. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>it's no senior citizen circuit for for basketball players. If

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<v Speaker 1>he wants to go play somewhere, that's his that's his prerocative.

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<v Speaker 1>He gave you everything he had when he was there.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't say didn't play her. You didn't say he

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<v Speaker 1>didn't perform at a high level. If he decides to leave,

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<v Speaker 1>that's his prerogative. How many how many people you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those same people that are criticizing him, how many of

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<v Speaker 1>those people would stay at the same job, offered a better,

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<v Speaker 1>more tractive job. How many people, okay, see if they

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<v Speaker 1>would offer the same job and up in a in

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<v Speaker 1>a raising pay in l A would say no, I

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<v Speaker 1>love Oklahoma. So we always asked our athletes to do

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<v Speaker 1>something we wouldn't do in our lives. That we asked

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<v Speaker 1>him to take less money. You asked him to not move,

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<v Speaker 1>not to take their family considerations into into account, not

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<v Speaker 1>not not not pay attention to markets or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 1>But they wouldn't do it in their life. Oh, he's greedy.

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<v Speaker 1>He shouldn't. He shouldn't want his money. So your boss

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<v Speaker 1>tell you get this money, you're gonna say no, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>But you expect athletes to do it right. It's it's

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's crazy hypocrisy. It is fascinating. Let's talk a little, Jets,

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<v Speaker 1>let's do it. Uh. Green and White have to flush

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<v Speaker 1>this out of their system quick, just like the Cincinnati

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<v Speaker 1>Bengals game, because after that week, Todd Pole said a

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<v Speaker 1>short week, we gotta move on the Buffalo and they did,

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<v Speaker 1>indeed do just that. They loses Kansas City Turnover Festival.

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<v Speaker 1>Ryan Fitzpatrick struggled. He admits to trying to do too

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<v Speaker 1>much at times. Obviously that's what happens when you have

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<v Speaker 1>a six interception game, you're still only lose by twenty one,

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<v Speaker 1>which is saying something in itself. But now, how do

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<v Speaker 1>you move quickly from that ball game to Seattle? Well,

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<v Speaker 1>what happens there's snowballs, right. And sometimes when you you

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<v Speaker 1>watch teams when they have a bad week, they come

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<v Speaker 1>back and have a better week and people like, oh, well,

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<v Speaker 1>why didn't they play with the same passion, because it's

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<v Speaker 1>something about being desperate, and you gotta think they were

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<v Speaker 1>facing a desperate team in the Kanda City Chiefs. What

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<v Speaker 1>happened to them the week before they lost in Houston?

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely so they were so they were more in their

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<v Speaker 1>game that they went. They had more attention to detail

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<v Speaker 1>and practice. It probably got m MEF in practice in

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<v Speaker 1>film room, they probably you know, were rolled up and

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<v Speaker 1>they used the emotion of the crowd. Tony Richardson went

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<v Speaker 1>into the Hall of Fame that day right in their ring,

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of it was a lot of emotions there

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<v Speaker 1>and the guys performed at a high level. And what

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<v Speaker 1>happens is when you have mistakes, and if you want

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about ran Fitzpatrick and the six interceptions only

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<v Speaker 1>give him credit for three of them, you know, two

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<v Speaker 1>deflective balls and the and the last one was just

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<v Speaker 1>trying to take a shot and trying to get back

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<v Speaker 1>in the game with a will route. But you gotta

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<v Speaker 1>take your hats off to the defense because really the

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<v Speaker 1>defense on the game up. All those turn off the

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<v Speaker 1>defense on the game up ten points. You know, one

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<v Speaker 1>was a fun ball and special teams or intercepted, I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what you want to say, because he caught

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<v Speaker 1>it and went right into the guy's hands. That you

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<v Speaker 1>know that one, and then I believe what was the other?

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<v Speaker 1>It was after fence the first interception, which is Marcus

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<v Speaker 1>Peters say, the thirty five drive and they catched in

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<v Speaker 1>with the touchdown on Now, yeah, that's the only drive

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<v Speaker 1>that they the other ones, am I am? I correct?

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<v Speaker 1>Didn't they score two touchdowns, one on defense and one

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<v Speaker 1>on offense. Yeah, Derrick Johnson scored So yeah, I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>you're the thirty five yard drive off the turnover, you

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<v Speaker 1>had Johnson's return for the touchdown and then teams return

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<v Speaker 1>for a touchdown, So that's fourteen points point So it's

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<v Speaker 1>ten points and seven of those came off thirty five

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<v Speaker 1>yard drive. My point. So you know, as a defense,

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<v Speaker 1>you gotta say listen and and you know we can't

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<v Speaker 1>give up the thirty five yards no matter what. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>you you strive for perfection. You always you're you're always

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<v Speaker 1>you're always gonna fall short, but you always strive for perfection.

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<v Speaker 1>Now listen, it's a lot of positives that go in

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<v Speaker 1>when you want to give up ten points. You didn't

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<v Speaker 1>hang your hat, you didn't point to finger at the offense.

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<v Speaker 1>The team stayed together, you know, and you just move

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<v Speaker 1>forward from there. You know what, you have to just

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<v Speaker 1>weather this storm, this tough patch of your this tough

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<v Speaker 1>stretch of your schedule, and make sure that you're peeking

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<v Speaker 1>in November December playing the bestball. And you want to

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<v Speaker 1>be in contention. You want to be in striking this far.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you buy that because fans can watch a game

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes say team looks flat or they look lest less. You,

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<v Speaker 1>as a former player, do you buy into any of that?

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<v Speaker 1>Of course that can happen. But like you were saying,

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<v Speaker 1>defense didn't give up too much. You just didn't have

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<v Speaker 1>a big play to get you going right. You're just

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for that that you know, the football guys you

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<v Speaker 1>know usually bless you. Usually what happens is it's like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it swings back and forth, right, So sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>like all the bombs go to to to you in

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<v Speaker 1>the first half and use it goes to the other

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<v Speaker 1>team in the second half. Well, it never went the

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<v Speaker 1>other way. For for the Jets, they didn't get that

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<v Speaker 1>big turnover, they didn't get that easy score. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>they didn't get that momentum change in type of play.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, they didn't get that. It just didn't happen.

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<v Speaker 1>And sometimes it happens. And what happens is you try

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<v Speaker 1>and stay within yourself and not pressed. But at some

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<v Speaker 1>point you say maybe it's not gonna happen, you start pressing.

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<v Speaker 1>So I think that Ryan fits practory because things weren't happening.

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<v Speaker 1>Were trying to press, trying to get the big play,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, trying to make sure that you continue to

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<v Speaker 1>take the big shots to try and get the easy score.

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<v Speaker 1>You want to get the easy score. Just think that

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<v Speaker 1>the Kansas City Chiefs got two easy scores, like two scores.

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<v Speaker 1>They didn't have to work for one play. Bam over

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<v Speaker 1>with you know what I mean. So the Jets. We're

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<v Speaker 1>looking for that one easy score just kind of change

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<v Speaker 1>it to put the pressure back on Kansas City because

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<v Speaker 1>the defense was playing well, if you could have put

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<v Speaker 1>the pressure back on it, but you needed a big play,

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<v Speaker 1>an easy score, a score that didn't take, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>a six minute drive or seven minute drive. You need

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<v Speaker 1>a thirty second score, a fumble or return from star

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<v Speaker 1>press harder than the NFL. And you guys always say

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<v Speaker 1>this to drive eight yards stuff when you're Nickelin and

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<v Speaker 1>Diamond down the field and the big explosion, and they

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<v Speaker 1>were forcing them to the justice stay patient, and you

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<v Speaker 1>know when you play patient, eventually you have to try

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<v Speaker 1>and take a shot and stay aggressive. And they capitalized

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<v Speaker 1>when they were trying to be aggressive. How can they

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<v Speaker 1>match up offensively with the Seattle's defense. We talked about

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<v Speaker 1>it on our film review that people can watch it.

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<v Speaker 1>Jet's flight plans. We're trying to get an immy Sunday

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<v Speaker 1>and then twelve o'clock you'll be on with the Fellows

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<v Speaker 1>with your big national show that NFL today the Matt Backer.

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<v Speaker 1>But how can no offense match up with this defense

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<v Speaker 1>that's been together for a number of years. And you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about it on our film review. They got a

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<v Speaker 1>loaded secondary still guys who have a lot of chemistry

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<v Speaker 1>back there. And when I think about Seattle's defense, I

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<v Speaker 1>think of all levels because of course Richard Sherman, Chancellor

0:22:35.320 --> 0:22:38.520
<v Speaker 1>and the Earl Thomas, but Michael Bennett is one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better defensive lineman and the national football game, Bobby

0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:45.280
<v Speaker 1>Wecht is one of the top liner. He's disruptive, you know,

0:22:45.320 --> 0:22:47.840
<v Speaker 1>talking about Benny, He's disruptive and they use him everywhere.

0:22:47.960 --> 0:22:50.400
<v Speaker 1>They'll isolate him on guards. I expect them to try

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<v Speaker 1>and get him match up on one of the guards

0:22:52.080 --> 0:22:54.119
<v Speaker 1>because he's you know, he's a smaller guy if you

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<v Speaker 1>put him inside, but he's so quick and he's so

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<v Speaker 1>exposed and powerful that he can get early pressure on

0:22:58.760 --> 0:23:00.760
<v Speaker 1>the quarterback and flush him out. You know, they do

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<v Speaker 1>a great job and that you know, but we all

0:23:02.880 --> 0:23:06.200
<v Speaker 1>know that to see how the Seahawks really play cover three.

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<v Speaker 1>So what you wanna do is much like teams you

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<v Speaker 1>just try and do with Polamalu. You know, you want

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<v Speaker 1>to try and get him isolated with formation, with shifts

0:23:13.600 --> 0:23:15.679
<v Speaker 1>and in motions to try and get him matched up

0:23:15.680 --> 0:23:19.639
<v Speaker 1>and force him to cover cam Chancler not not to

0:23:19.680 --> 0:23:24.080
<v Speaker 1>cover and and and um not to cover in space

0:23:24.080 --> 0:23:25.439
<v Speaker 1>in his zone, but you want to force him to

0:23:25.480 --> 0:23:28.239
<v Speaker 1>try and carry you long, so all zones become man

0:23:28.320 --> 0:23:30.520
<v Speaker 1>and man after a certain amount of time. So they

0:23:30.560 --> 0:23:32.840
<v Speaker 1>play cover three. So if you run a vertical route

0:23:32.840 --> 0:23:35.320
<v Speaker 1>four birds which cover three, you only have three dep

0:23:35.359 --> 0:23:37.520
<v Speaker 1>that means somebody underneath has to carry. Well. A lot

0:23:37.520 --> 0:23:40.560
<v Speaker 1>of times that's gonna be uh Cam Chancellor, and he

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<v Speaker 1>struggles in coverage and a lot of teams last year.

0:23:43.040 --> 0:23:46.639
<v Speaker 1>You think about last year when the Carolina Panthers beat him,

0:23:47.119 --> 0:23:50.200
<v Speaker 1>they use ocean right up the scene, right, And that's

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<v Speaker 1>what you wanna do. You want to try and get

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<v Speaker 1>him out of his comfort zone, make him have to

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<v Speaker 1>cover and covering space against one of your better guys.

0:23:56.480 --> 0:23:58.359
<v Speaker 1>And you can do that because you understand that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times they don't match up Richard Sherman. If

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<v Speaker 1>it's covered three his own, he's going to be outside

0:24:03.720 --> 0:24:06.560
<v Speaker 1>and you you can put your your your studs inside

0:24:06.800 --> 0:24:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and that matches them up against either Wagner or matches

0:24:09.760 --> 0:24:13.679
<v Speaker 1>them up against Cam Chancellor, Earl Bennett, which Earl Thomas,

0:24:13.760 --> 0:24:16.160
<v Speaker 1>which I think is an advantage to the Jets because

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<v Speaker 1>they have so much depth that they can go for

0:24:18.440 --> 0:24:20.840
<v Speaker 1>receivers and force those guys that have to cover. This

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<v Speaker 1>is the podcast that is Bart Scott is it is

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<v Speaker 1>no As you mentioned, Jen Galile's got some options. He

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<v Speaker 1>could put Dr Air Marshall inside and Richard Sherman a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times, it's gonna stay outside no matter who

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<v Speaker 1>is inside. Who do you think it makes? Makes it

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<v Speaker 1>all go back there when you say I've spent saying

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<v Speaker 1>for years now you're more of an expert than me.

0:24:44.800 --> 0:24:47.480
<v Speaker 1>But I've been saying for years at secondaries all about

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<v Speaker 1>Earl Thomas, Well, Earl Thomas is uh. He's explosive. He's

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<v Speaker 1>one of the better you know, to me, the two

0:24:53.640 --> 0:24:56.399
<v Speaker 1>young you know studs at that position. You know some

0:24:56.440 --> 0:24:58.600
<v Speaker 1>people I like Tyson Gibson a little bit, but he's

0:24:58.600 --> 0:25:00.960
<v Speaker 1>he's going to get lost down there in Axonville. You

0:25:00.960 --> 0:25:04.040
<v Speaker 1>know Eric Berry and you talk about Earl Thomas, two

0:25:04.040 --> 0:25:09.240
<v Speaker 1>of the younger, most explosive playmaking type of um safeties.

0:25:09.240 --> 0:25:11.480
<v Speaker 1>You know, when I think about Thomas, I think of

0:25:11.680 --> 0:25:14.359
<v Speaker 1>Bob Sanders and he's a physical guy. He can close,

0:25:14.480 --> 0:25:16.360
<v Speaker 1>he can cover a lot of ground, and he's very

0:25:16.400 --> 0:25:18.320
<v Speaker 1>physical at the point of attack. He's going to cut

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<v Speaker 1>your legs out. He's gonna, you know, get there. He's

0:25:21.280 --> 0:25:23.680
<v Speaker 1>even though he's small, he plays big, you know. So

0:25:24.080 --> 0:25:26.160
<v Speaker 1>he's the guy that you have to count Ford Camas

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<v Speaker 1>like the devastate, He's like the Marshall Lench. He sets

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<v Speaker 1>the temple for them. He gets the big that gets

0:25:31.320 --> 0:25:34.760
<v Speaker 1>everybody ready to go, like right with Marsha right exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>or like when Chris Ivey come down and run somebody over.

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<v Speaker 1>It energies the entire team, you know, so you have

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<v Speaker 1>to make sure that you get him down and not

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<v Speaker 1>feeling great. But also if you get an opportunity with Thomas,

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<v Speaker 1>I take that. I'll take that match up against Thomas

0:25:48.200 --> 0:25:51.680
<v Speaker 1>and Decker or Thomas and Marshall every day of the week,

0:25:51.840 --> 0:25:54.680
<v Speaker 1>even Thomas in the now while because he's a smaller guy.

0:25:54.720 --> 0:25:58.160
<v Speaker 1>He's short, so you know, the catch rateers is larger

0:25:58.200 --> 0:26:00.800
<v Speaker 1>than his defense raiders. So he's right. So you throw

0:26:00.800 --> 0:26:02.840
<v Speaker 1>the ball up top. He can't get there, you know.

0:26:02.840 --> 0:26:04.200
<v Speaker 1>All he can hope is to try and strip it

0:26:04.200 --> 0:26:06.000
<v Speaker 1>out your head. You catch at as highest point. He

0:26:06.040 --> 0:26:08.960
<v Speaker 1>can't climb that high part. Scott is telling you the

0:26:09.040 --> 0:26:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Jets gotta attack offensively, saying four verticals and that's what

0:26:12.280 --> 0:26:15.720
<v Speaker 1>we saw a lot against the Buffalo Bills, and the

0:26:15.800 --> 0:26:18.840
<v Speaker 1>Jets took advantage of that. So they'll be a comeback

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<v Speaker 1>mode offensively this week. We know that a great challenge

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:24.639
<v Speaker 1>I had Robby Anderson made a couple of catches and

0:26:24.680 --> 0:26:26.760
<v Speaker 1>the kid could fly. Maybe they'll use him a little

0:26:26.760 --> 0:26:28.960
<v Speaker 1>bit outside this week. He can, he can stretch his own.

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<v Speaker 1>But what's going to be important is they have to

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<v Speaker 1>keep their eye on Tiler Lock It not so much.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, you gotta watch him in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>in the passing game, but you can't have let downs

0:26:37.680 --> 0:26:40.720
<v Speaker 1>because he's special returning the ball. He can't you can't

0:26:40.760 --> 0:26:44.320
<v Speaker 1>allow him to to flip the field position and establish

0:26:44.400 --> 0:26:46.760
<v Speaker 1>you know, feel you know, great field position for the

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<v Speaker 1>for the team because he's able to flip the flip

0:26:49.800 --> 0:26:52.840
<v Speaker 1>the field quickly because he's really electric. He's one of

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<v Speaker 1>the better young returners. So if you can you know,

0:26:56.600 --> 0:26:58.080
<v Speaker 1>I know a lot of people are doing these blue

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<v Speaker 1>kicks and things like that, just kick the ball. A

0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:02.080
<v Speaker 1>lot of ends on. Give him the ball at the five,

0:27:02.119 --> 0:27:05.000
<v Speaker 1>don't give him an opportunity to make a big impact play.

0:27:05.119 --> 0:27:07.200
<v Speaker 1>I like him a lot. He made a lot of

0:27:07.200 --> 0:27:10.960
<v Speaker 1>plays in Kansas State and he got knocked four size.

0:27:11.040 --> 0:27:13.119
<v Speaker 1>That's why he goes a little bit later in the draft.

0:27:13.160 --> 0:27:15.239
<v Speaker 1>But he's just a good football player. He can make

0:27:15.280 --> 0:27:18.359
<v Speaker 1>plays as a receiver to Locket's explosive Yeah, and you

0:27:18.440 --> 0:27:26.080
<v Speaker 1>matchin Yeah, and you talked about Yeah, Jimmy Graham. You know,

0:27:26.160 --> 0:27:28.200
<v Speaker 1>last year, I think they really couldn't find a rhythm.

0:27:28.200 --> 0:27:30.280
<v Speaker 1>They didn't know how to use them, and their offense

0:27:30.280 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>took off when he got hurt. But last week you

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<v Speaker 1>talked about him elite tight end, a past receiving tight

0:27:36.640 --> 0:27:38.119
<v Speaker 1>and you don't have to worry about him much in

0:27:38.160 --> 0:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>the run game. So very much like Kelsey because he

0:27:40.320 --> 0:27:42.639
<v Speaker 1>said the same thing as Kelsey last week. Not not

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<v Speaker 1>a guy who's gonna be an imposing blocker. Right, They're

0:27:45.680 --> 0:27:47.640
<v Speaker 1>gonna move him around. They're gonna move him around, get

0:27:47.760 --> 0:27:50.720
<v Speaker 1>get the matchups. And also they're gonna they're gonna see

0:27:50.800 --> 0:27:53.040
<v Speaker 1>if the Jets made the corrections. You know what what

0:27:53.119 --> 0:27:55.160
<v Speaker 1>they did last week? They run you know, clear house

0:27:55.200 --> 0:27:57.600
<v Speaker 1>and they kind of let Kelsey sneak out, you know,

0:27:57.680 --> 0:27:59.840
<v Speaker 1>behind because everybody knows that the Jets, you know, play

0:27:59.880 --> 0:28:02.080
<v Speaker 1>a lot of man to man defense. So now what

0:28:02.119 --> 0:28:04.840
<v Speaker 1>happens is you run over routes and guys can get

0:28:04.920 --> 0:28:06.560
<v Speaker 1>caught up in the trash, and you get a guy

0:28:06.600 --> 0:28:09.440
<v Speaker 1>like Jimmy Graham, you know, who doesn't run as well

0:28:09.480 --> 0:28:12.320
<v Speaker 1>after the catch as Kelsey, but he can make the

0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.000
<v Speaker 1>catch and get a couple of yards afterwards. Kelsey is

0:28:15.040 --> 0:28:16.960
<v Speaker 1>the guy who wants he catches it. He's one of

0:28:17.000 --> 0:28:19.760
<v Speaker 1>the better, you know, run after the catch tight ends,

0:28:19.800 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 1>but you still have the same post, the same problem

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:24.560
<v Speaker 1>because Jimmy Graham can high point the ball and if

0:28:24.560 --> 0:28:26.720
<v Speaker 1>you're if you plan that, you're gonna have to communicate

0:28:26.760 --> 0:28:29.000
<v Speaker 1>with the linebackers and say, hey, give me some help.

0:28:29.200 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>Or if you have the running back and you're running

0:28:31.040 --> 0:28:34.439
<v Speaker 1>back stays in. You see Jimmy Graham coming underneath shallow

0:28:34.520 --> 0:28:37.480
<v Speaker 1>underneath the linebackers, you know, and I have a man

0:28:37.520 --> 0:28:39.719
<v Speaker 1>of man, give me, give me the hamburger helper, give

0:28:39.760 --> 0:28:41.360
<v Speaker 1>him a chip on the way out, slow him down

0:28:41.400 --> 0:28:44.160
<v Speaker 1>so I can catch up. And you said communication will

0:28:44.200 --> 0:28:47.560
<v Speaker 1>be key again this week, especially if they're trying to

0:28:47.600 --> 0:28:50.880
<v Speaker 1>get Jimmy Graham involved in this game early between the

0:28:50.920 --> 0:28:55.240
<v Speaker 1>linebackers and the secondary. Russell Wilson loves going to Doug Baldwin,

0:28:55.280 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>who's not a prototypical number one receiver, but he's just

0:28:58.360 --> 0:29:01.720
<v Speaker 1>a productive dude, scrappy he were reminds me of this.

0:29:01.720 --> 0:29:04.720
<v Speaker 1>This receiving staff reminds me of the Patriots old staff

0:29:04.800 --> 0:29:08.240
<v Speaker 1>with Branch, Patton and Troy Brown. Brown. You know what

0:29:08.240 --> 0:29:10.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying. You can put Tyler Locketted Troy Brown. You

0:29:10.520 --> 0:29:15.560
<v Speaker 1>could put Balling to replace Patton and Curse to replace Branch.

0:29:15.880 --> 0:29:18.400
<v Speaker 1>You know, they just play well together. They're scrappy group.

0:29:18.400 --> 0:29:21.040
<v Speaker 1>They're not a highly decorated group. But you talk about

0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.960
<v Speaker 1>last year. You know, nobody had more touchdowns in the

0:29:24.000 --> 0:29:27.280
<v Speaker 1>second half of the year than you know, Russell to Balling,

0:29:27.520 --> 0:29:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you know, he's really scrappy. He's competitive because he had

0:29:29.880 --> 0:29:32.560
<v Speaker 1>to fight for everything that that he's gotten and they

0:29:32.600 --> 0:29:34.760
<v Speaker 1>rewarded him with a lucrative deal. But he's still bringing

0:29:34.800 --> 0:29:38.560
<v Speaker 1>that same type of passion. And with Russell, you broken down.

0:29:38.640 --> 0:29:43.680
<v Speaker 1>Great on film is that he breaks contained and you're done.

0:29:43.880 --> 0:29:46.800
<v Speaker 1>You're done because he's either getting fifteen or twenty on

0:29:46.920 --> 0:29:49.800
<v Speaker 1>the ground and not taking the big hit, or he's

0:29:49.840 --> 0:29:54.200
<v Speaker 1>going out top vertically because his small stature. The funny

0:29:54.240 --> 0:29:56.640
<v Speaker 1>thing about him coming out was people are like the

0:29:56.720 --> 0:29:59.000
<v Speaker 1>arms strength. I don't know about the arms strength. He

0:30:00.040 --> 0:30:05.040
<v Speaker 1>he throws in the game on a rope, on a rope,

0:30:05.040 --> 0:30:06.760
<v Speaker 1>you know. I know Flacco would say a little bit

0:30:06.800 --> 0:30:09.920
<v Speaker 1>about that. But you know, Russell Wilson what makes him

0:30:09.920 --> 0:30:11.960
<v Speaker 1>so special. He's able to buy time. But he's not

0:30:12.000 --> 0:30:14.160
<v Speaker 1>a guy that's going to panic in the pocket and

0:30:14.240 --> 0:30:16.800
<v Speaker 1>just run and start looking to run immediately. His eyes

0:30:16.800 --> 0:30:20.240
<v Speaker 1>are always downfield and they understand. Much like Ben Roethlisberger.

0:30:20.400 --> 0:30:22.600
<v Speaker 1>When he gets out, everybody turns their routes and they

0:30:22.640 --> 0:30:24.640
<v Speaker 1>go vertical, and he's able to find him. But what

0:30:24.760 --> 0:30:27.200
<v Speaker 1>happens is when he turned vertical, if you're in a zone,

0:30:27.240 --> 0:30:30.360
<v Speaker 1>sometimes you lose your guy because he's running vertical and

0:30:30.400 --> 0:30:32.600
<v Speaker 1>that's not your zone anymore. But the guy that's deep

0:30:32.960 --> 0:30:35.720
<v Speaker 1>is gone because everybody's turning up. So you saw it

0:30:35.800 --> 0:30:37.400
<v Speaker 1>last week when he bought time that he was able

0:30:37.440 --> 0:30:40.280
<v Speaker 1>to find Jimmy Graham because once it was a zone,

0:30:40.320 --> 0:30:43.560
<v Speaker 1>people clear his own. Now his zones expand, you know,

0:30:43.680 --> 0:30:45.920
<v Speaker 1>and he's able to buy time because he's a dual

0:30:45.960 --> 0:30:48.480
<v Speaker 1>threat and he doesn't take big hits. He always slides.

0:30:48.560 --> 0:30:50.320
<v Speaker 1>You know, he's great baseball players, so he knows how

0:30:50.320 --> 0:30:53.040
<v Speaker 1>to slide get down early, but he kills you and

0:30:53.040 --> 0:30:55.040
<v Speaker 1>that's what happens. And he usually waits to the second

0:30:55.040 --> 0:30:56.760
<v Speaker 1>half when the game is on the line to do that.

0:30:56.960 --> 0:30:59.520
<v Speaker 1>He's Injured's gonna be important for the Jets not to

0:30:59.560 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>get past We talked about rushing the edges. We talked

0:31:01.920 --> 0:31:04.440
<v Speaker 1>about never getting past quarterback debt, because when you get

0:31:04.480 --> 0:31:07.479
<v Speaker 1>past quarterback depth, you allowed the quarterback to step up

0:31:07.520 --> 0:31:09.560
<v Speaker 1>and step out. You want him to be able to throw,

0:31:09.640 --> 0:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>have to throw the ball from a phone bull if

0:31:11.880 --> 0:31:14.080
<v Speaker 1>you want him contain where He's not the tallest guy,

0:31:14.120 --> 0:31:16.280
<v Speaker 1>so he needs lanes to see through and to throw

0:31:16.320 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 1>through the same lanes that he throw through he run through.

0:31:18.560 --> 0:31:20.280
<v Speaker 1>But if you keep them bottled up, now he has

0:31:20.320 --> 0:31:22.360
<v Speaker 1>to try and throw over the top. You guys love that.

0:31:23.440 --> 0:31:27.360
<v Speaker 1>As players, we hear that all this week is maintained rush. Yeah,

0:31:27.480 --> 0:31:29.600
<v Speaker 1>and we always we always use that against Michael Vick

0:31:29.680 --> 0:31:34.240
<v Speaker 1>because Michael Vick wasn't tossor you know, like Brady, like Peyton,

0:31:34.400 --> 0:31:37.760
<v Speaker 1>like uh even Luck or Cam Newton who can throw

0:31:37.840 --> 0:31:41.880
<v Speaker 1>over the defense because they're they're actually just as tall

0:31:41.920 --> 0:31:43.960
<v Speaker 1>as their linement, so they can throw over. You want

0:31:44.000 --> 0:31:46.120
<v Speaker 1>to try and start the pocket and destroy his vision

0:31:46.360 --> 0:31:48.600
<v Speaker 1>to make him have to move left or right. In

0:31:48.640 --> 0:31:51.400
<v Speaker 1>our paper that Jets shouldn't be able to do that.

0:31:52.240 --> 0:31:55.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm not taking anything away. It's not great offensive line. Yeah,

0:31:55.800 --> 0:31:58.120
<v Speaker 1>we're not taking shots here, but this is the unit

0:31:58.160 --> 0:32:00.200
<v Speaker 1>that is struggle and keep it really going wrong. Any

0:32:01.000 --> 0:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>are you looking at Muhammad Welkers since Sheldon Richardson who

0:32:03.840 --> 0:32:06.360
<v Speaker 1>you're sitting down with on Friday, I'm excited to watch

0:32:06.400 --> 0:32:09.560
<v Speaker 1>that one. Um. Leonard Williams is a beast in the

0:32:09.640 --> 0:32:12.280
<v Speaker 1>second season. Steve McLean has been a nice pick up.

0:32:12.640 --> 0:32:17.080
<v Speaker 1>I'm saying on paper, the Jets defensive line could make

0:32:17.160 --> 0:32:22.000
<v Speaker 1>this a long afternoon for Russell Wilson because while Michael

0:32:22.680 --> 0:32:27.480
<v Speaker 1>has got some nice numbers, no Mars Shawn Lynch there anymore.

0:32:27.520 --> 0:32:31.040
<v Speaker 1>In Seattle's games, they're still trying to figure it out

0:32:31.160 --> 0:32:33.360
<v Speaker 1>right who they're going to be this year. And you know,

0:32:33.760 --> 0:32:36.479
<v Speaker 1>I like how they use Lee last last week against

0:32:36.560 --> 0:32:39.240
<v Speaker 1>Alex Smith, who's an underrated athletic guy. But you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you also can use with some of the same principles

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<v Speaker 1>right with him spine as well, So when he does

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<v Speaker 1>do that, you put the pressure on him to make

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<v Speaker 1>him have to make a decision earlier, can allow him

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<v Speaker 1>to go dit back there, because he'll he'll he'll pivot,

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<v Speaker 1>he'll know speed turned lose ground and come up, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>and run around out back there. But your force your

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<v Speaker 1>corners to have the cover for six seven seconds and

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<v Speaker 1>he'll find somebody event, you know, So you put the

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<v Speaker 1>spy on him, so as soon as he breaks contain,

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<v Speaker 1>you got somebody right there in his face, making him

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<v Speaker 1>have to make a decision. Styles make fights. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>like the matchup for the Jets? I like this matchup.

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<v Speaker 1>I like this matchup a lot um. Also, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's important that they jump on him early and make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that they set the tone early with getting to

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<v Speaker 1>get into Russell Wilson. You know, you watch steal Um,

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<v Speaker 1>You watch how Miami got out thro the when they

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<v Speaker 1>went out there and the rams they always the random

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<v Speaker 1>But we're talking but then, but what's up front exact?

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<v Speaker 1>Combinate with the defensive line exact? Why that's what makes

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<v Speaker 1>them different cause they don't have to blitz because they

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<v Speaker 1>have a great front four that can beat their line.

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<v Speaker 1>So the Jets, you know, I would say, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you talk about the best you know front four, you

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<v Speaker 1>would have to say that the Rams and the Jets

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<v Speaker 1>are pretty similar. I would give the edge to the Jets.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, so playing a lot of four three this

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<v Speaker 1>year too, because you're getting your best players on the field.

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<v Speaker 1>Last week we saw a lot of David Harrison in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle flanked by two rookie line packers, and I

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<v Speaker 1>thought both of them showed uh, showed up. Yeah. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Jordan Jenkins, I think he's got old man strength. Their

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<v Speaker 1>third round pick from Georgia. He just comes in there

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<v Speaker 1>and he's got a lot of young guys. You can

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<v Speaker 1>tell they gotta put on weight and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>I think he kind of has it and then Lee

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<v Speaker 1>uh ways to go. But he's showing that a lesson

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<v Speaker 1>as well. Alright, so next week, since we talked to

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<v Speaker 1>bake coverage, next week we're getting into the top five

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<v Speaker 1>boxers of all time. You do your research if you

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<v Speaker 1>want to tweet us and Daddy you know, and jetson

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<v Speaker 1>what are you at at parts got fifty seven? You

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<v Speaker 1>don't even check it to you? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll check you this week. Ye there he is the

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<v Speaker 1>mad backer part Scott. That's it for the e A podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>We're coming back next week breaking down Jets Seahawks, previewing

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<v Speaker 1>Jets Steelers, and also taking a look back at one

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<v Speaker 1>of the most ferocious sex so all times the mad

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<v Speaker 1>backer got the Ben Roethlisberg's going to relive it up, please,