1 00:00:01,560 --> 00:00:08,880 Speaker 1: It is Thursday, February twenty third. This is Jaguar's Happy 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:14,080 Speaker 1: Hour and now the man you've all been waiting for 3 00:00:15,040 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 1: and Jay Peace Shadrick. Oh yeah, the weight is over 4 00:00:21,120 --> 00:00:24,680 Speaker 1: because the hiatus is over. Welcome back. It's Jaguar's Happy Hour. 5 00:00:24,880 --> 00:00:28,480 Speaker 1: It is Thursday. Yes, I am j P. Shadrick. That's 6 00:00:28,560 --> 00:00:31,800 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato print Reber on the videos side today. No 7 00:00:31,960 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: Jeff Logaman, he's out and we'll be out next week 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:37,479 Speaker 1: at the Combines. He won't see him for a couple 9 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 1: of weeks or hear from him in a couple of weeks. 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:41,920 Speaker 1: We got a jam pack show here on tint, nexcel Am, 11 00:00:42,040 --> 00:00:46,159 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot com, Jacks, Twitter, Facebook, and YouTube. Well, it's 12 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:50,559 Speaker 1: offseason business time. The franchise tag window is open. The 13 00:00:50,720 --> 00:00:53,400 Speaker 1: start of the league year begins mid March. We'll get 14 00:00:53,400 --> 00:00:58,240 Speaker 1: into some of the Jaguar possibilities throughout this show. We'll 15 00:00:58,280 --> 00:01:00,520 Speaker 1: hear from Pride of the Jaguars running back Taylor in 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:03,240 Speaker 1: about five minutes time. See what he's been up to 17 00:01:03,280 --> 00:01:06,440 Speaker 1: this offseason. He's been busy on the pivot as always. 18 00:01:06,440 --> 00:01:09,200 Speaker 1: Senior writer John Osier. About four fifteen or so, we'll 19 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,679 Speaker 1: hear from Johnny Oh and discuss some of that offseason 20 00:01:12,760 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: business and preview our trip to Indianapolis next week for 21 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:22,880 Speaker 1: the NFL Scouting Combine and then NFL Network ESPN, Sirius XM, 22 00:01:22,959 --> 00:01:27,559 Speaker 1: Westwood One analyst Ryan Leaf joining us at four thirty today, 23 00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,039 Speaker 1: former number two overall pick in the nineteen ninety eight draft. 24 00:01:31,160 --> 00:01:34,039 Speaker 1: We've got the ninety eight draft on Lockdown today with 25 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:36,720 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor the ninth overall pick, Ryan Leaf at number 26 00:01:36,760 --> 00:01:39,840 Speaker 1: two in that draft. We'll catch up with Ryan, see 27 00:01:39,840 --> 00:01:41,399 Speaker 1: what he's been up to and get his thoughts on 28 00:01:41,440 --> 00:01:44,840 Speaker 1: the Jaguars run in twenty twenty two and some of 29 00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 1: the offseason moves that are possible in the NFL. And 30 00:01:47,960 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: of course we'll go around the NFL at the end 31 00:01:51,800 --> 00:01:56,400 Speaker 1: of the program today. So offseason is underway. We had 32 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:58,400 Speaker 1: a few weeks down after the end of the playoff 33 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:01,480 Speaker 1: front here in our offices, but they have been busy 34 00:02:01,520 --> 00:02:04,000 Speaker 1: over on the other side. Of course, that it was 35 00:02:04,040 --> 00:02:07,040 Speaker 1: a quick turnaround after the loss in the division around 36 00:02:07,040 --> 00:02:09,360 Speaker 1: in Kansas City two days later, the players are gone 37 00:02:09,880 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: and it's just a quick move forward to the offseason business. 38 00:02:13,720 --> 00:02:16,480 Speaker 1: And as we said, the league year begins in mid March, 39 00:02:16,560 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: so you got to get down to the salary cap 40 00:02:18,880 --> 00:02:21,680 Speaker 1: before then. There's a number of pending free agents for 41 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,880 Speaker 1: the Jaguars that you've got to figure out, Hey, did 42 00:02:23,880 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: we want to get these guys back? Can we send 43 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,080 Speaker 1: some of these players early? Do you let him go 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:31,280 Speaker 1: to marketplace and come back? And there's a lot of 45 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:34,640 Speaker 1: questions around that, of course, And one of the biggest 46 00:02:34,720 --> 00:02:37,920 Speaker 1: names in that regard, of course, is Evan Ingram, who 47 00:02:38,040 --> 00:02:41,000 Speaker 1: has been a big topic this offseason already because of 48 00:02:41,000 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: his production. He had a career year in a one 49 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:46,799 Speaker 1: year prove it deal with the Jaguars last season. He 50 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:50,880 Speaker 1: was on Sirius XM Radio this week on Sirius XM 51 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:54,200 Speaker 1: NFL Radio Channel eighty eight, and they asked him about 52 00:02:54,240 --> 00:02:57,840 Speaker 1: the possibility of the franchise tag being applied. In his thoughts, 53 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:01,080 Speaker 1: it's a hypothetical, so it could happen, it could not, 54 00:03:01,240 --> 00:03:05,000 Speaker 1: but you know, if that happens, I think that that 55 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 1: will be a placeholder and you know, to get something done. 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: I think that's just kind of just the way I 57 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:12,280 Speaker 1: feel about it. And if it does come to that, 58 00:03:12,320 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: you know, there'll be conversations have with my team and 59 00:03:15,080 --> 00:03:18,280 Speaker 1: who will before from there. But if that does happen, 60 00:03:18,400 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be blessed either way, and we'll figure something 61 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:22,600 Speaker 1: out long term that can you know, both sides will 62 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: be happy with well. He also said in that interview 63 00:03:25,320 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 1: that both sides are interested still as he you know, 64 00:03:28,760 --> 00:03:31,880 Speaker 1: he also said there hasn't been a lot of talk yet, 65 00:03:32,240 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 1: but they the talk's coming because the Elite year begins 66 00:03:35,720 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: in just a couple of weeks time. And what a 67 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:40,560 Speaker 1: year it was. As we said, career highs and catches, 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 1: seventy three of those in yardage, seven hundred and sixty 69 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:48,840 Speaker 1: six receiving yards, four touchdowns, and he was fantastic. His 70 00:03:48,960 --> 00:03:52,080 Speaker 1: first touchdown came Week eight in London and then he 71 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:55,600 Speaker 1: finished things strong and a big piece of this passing 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:59,120 Speaker 1: offense last year. And you know they're gonna have an addition, 73 00:03:59,160 --> 00:04:01,280 Speaker 1: hopefully in Calvin Ridley as well, to go with it. 74 00:04:01,400 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 1: So you know, you throw that in the mix and 75 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:07,760 Speaker 1: then Ingram and everything else that's going on here in 76 00:04:07,800 --> 00:04:10,680 Speaker 1: this offense, and this is this is gearing up to 77 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:14,960 Speaker 1: be a fantastic, fantastic offensive group. Trevor Lawrence going in 78 00:04:15,000 --> 00:04:17,479 Speaker 1: the year three, year two, in this offense, everything could 79 00:04:17,520 --> 00:04:21,080 Speaker 1: be adding up they'll have some different coaches around them though. 80 00:04:21,200 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: Wide receiver coach Chad Hall has joined the team and 81 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:30,000 Speaker 1: passing game coordinator Nick Holes added officially today. That announcement 82 00:04:30,040 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: came out, replacing Jim Bob Cooter, and Cooter is now 83 00:04:33,600 --> 00:04:37,920 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis as the offensive coordinator there. Holes spent last 84 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,880 Speaker 1: year at U and LV as the offensive coordinator a 85 00:04:40,960 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 1: number of years before that, about a decade with the 86 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,040 Speaker 1: Raiders and a number of different roles a little bit 87 00:04:46,080 --> 00:04:48,880 Speaker 1: down the ladder in Las Vegas. But Holes now the 88 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,840 Speaker 1: passing game coordinator for the Jaguars. He'll have some pieces 89 00:04:52,279 --> 00:04:54,520 Speaker 1: to work with. This is Jaguars Happy r on Tin 90 00:04:54,560 --> 00:04:57,720 Speaker 1: ten XEL and Jaguars dot Com. J P. Shadrick with you, 91 00:04:57,800 --> 00:05:01,240 Speaker 1: Jeff Loghman out this week. Our first round pick, quarterback 92 00:05:01,279 --> 00:05:04,120 Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf coming up at four thirty today. He was 93 00:05:04,160 --> 00:05:06,359 Speaker 1: a part of that nineteen ninety eight draft, as was 94 00:05:06,400 --> 00:05:09,359 Speaker 1: pride of the Jaguars running back Fred Taylor, who joins 95 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:12,680 Speaker 1: us right now. Fred, it's good to talk to you. 96 00:05:13,520 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty three and thanks for the time today, Man. 97 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,560 Speaker 1: What's up? My pleasure to JP Man, I appreciate you. 98 00:05:19,640 --> 00:05:22,279 Speaker 1: Happy twenty twenty three. It's been a while, it's been 99 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,679 Speaker 1: a few weeks. I guess we just had some time away. 100 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: It's the first showback unhappy hour since the end of 101 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: the postseason run. And you know, it happens quick, right 102 00:05:32,240 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: that you're losing the postseason. Then two days later the 103 00:05:35,120 --> 00:05:37,760 Speaker 1: players are gone and you're looking ahead to the business 104 00:05:37,839 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 1: of the offseason. And there is some business to attend 105 00:05:40,400 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 1: to for the Jags. Fred. They've got to figure out 106 00:05:42,240 --> 00:05:44,640 Speaker 1: the salary cap. They've got to figure out with what 107 00:05:44,760 --> 00:05:48,280 Speaker 1: like fourteen pending free agents something like that, how many 108 00:05:48,279 --> 00:05:52,159 Speaker 1: of those guys come back? This team won. So the 109 00:05:52,160 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 1: players say the right things at the end of the season, 110 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,239 Speaker 1: we want everybody back. Well, it's just not possible that way, Fred, 111 00:05:57,320 --> 00:06:01,359 Speaker 1: So how do you prioritize some of those guys? JP? 112 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: You hit it on the head man. You know it's 113 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:08,240 Speaker 1: a lot, it's a tall order, but it's a quick turnaround, 114 00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:11,440 Speaker 1: it seems. I know. The fans can get a bit, 115 00:06:12,040 --> 00:06:15,240 Speaker 1: you know, impatient, you know, after basketball is done and 116 00:06:15,520 --> 00:06:18,240 Speaker 1: baseball is a little slow, and fans want football, but 117 00:06:18,400 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: it's just the process of it all. And you know, 118 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,360 Speaker 1: I'm with you. You won't be able to get everybody back. 119 00:06:24,400 --> 00:06:27,720 Speaker 1: It always sounds good at the end of the season, 120 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,279 Speaker 1: but it's not possible. Why But I think you start 121 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:34,200 Speaker 1: with you know, the salary cap, crunching those numbers, you 122 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: don't see where you are and see what type of 123 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:40,080 Speaker 1: flexibility you have, and then you prioritize from there. You know, 124 00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:43,320 Speaker 1: I've been reading some stuff and I also thought at 125 00:06:43,320 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 1: the end of the season that Evan Ingram would be 126 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 1: someone that they would you know, target high on that 127 00:06:49,600 --> 00:06:52,120 Speaker 1: priority list. And then they have to figure out what 128 00:06:52,160 --> 00:06:55,560 Speaker 1: they want to do from a defensive standpoint, you know, 129 00:06:55,600 --> 00:06:58,839 Speaker 1: I think building around Trevor, they've done a good job 130 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:03,080 Speaker 1: there at the receiving or and then you also add 131 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,440 Speaker 1: you know Calvin Realley when he once he's reinstated, which 132 00:07:06,440 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: I thought was an amazing uh get and grab, you 133 00:07:11,080 --> 00:07:14,000 Speaker 1: know when nobody was thinking it. So um, you know, 134 00:07:14,040 --> 00:07:16,400 Speaker 1: they're they're tied at the running back position as well, 135 00:07:16,640 --> 00:07:19,160 Speaker 1: so they got to tighten up some other that areas. 136 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:23,240 Speaker 1: But you know it's still so early to combine is 137 00:07:23,440 --> 00:07:26,679 Speaker 1: among us, so they'll they'll figure it out here shortly, 138 00:07:27,400 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor with us. You mentioned Ridley and yeah, he 139 00:07:30,400 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 1: applied for reinstatement. I think the fifteenth was the first 140 00:07:33,480 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 1: day he could do it, and he applied. So there's 141 00:07:35,440 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: no real timetable on the decision from Park Avenue, New York. 142 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 1: If you know, if he's reinstated or win, that could be. 143 00:07:43,480 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: But when he's back, what can you expect from him? Fred? 144 00:07:46,800 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 1: Of me, he played five games two seasons ago. He 145 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 1: was suspended all of last year, so he hasn't played 146 00:07:53,760 --> 00:07:56,160 Speaker 1: football in a while now. Bucky Brooks told us on 147 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,360 Speaker 1: a podcast yesterday, he's hearing that he's in fantastic shape 148 00:07:59,360 --> 00:08:02,520 Speaker 1: and all that. That's great, Fred, but that's a little 149 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 1: different than football shape, isn't it. And what can you 150 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:08,280 Speaker 1: expect when he finally gets back out there. You know, 151 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: he's one of those guys who you know, he's simply 152 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:14,559 Speaker 1: just a natural talent. You know, he's only in year five. 153 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,000 Speaker 1: He's the guy who's you know, I love his run 154 00:08:18,040 --> 00:08:22,280 Speaker 1: after the catchability, has extremely soft hands. He's a standout 155 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:26,120 Speaker 1: back at Alabama. He understands the game, he understands the position, 156 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,560 Speaker 1: and he's a Florida boy. So so I'm always rooting 157 00:08:30,560 --> 00:08:33,560 Speaker 1: for him, and I think he will be reinstated. You know, 158 00:08:33,679 --> 00:08:37,120 Speaker 1: I mean, guys have done worse. I don't condone you know, 159 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,960 Speaker 1: things that are against the rules. I think you follow 160 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:44,840 Speaker 1: the rules. But at the same time, you know, a 161 00:08:44,840 --> 00:08:48,319 Speaker 1: bit of a touch file with what he did, considering 162 00:08:48,360 --> 00:08:51,520 Speaker 1: the direction of the NFL that the NFL is going 163 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 1: with gambling, et cetera. But again, I think he will 164 00:08:55,160 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 1: be reinstated. I think he'll be a weapon for the Jaguars, 165 00:09:00,080 --> 00:09:02,680 Speaker 1: might just come in, you know, find his way into 166 00:09:02,720 --> 00:09:06,200 Speaker 1: the you know, the number two or the number one slot. 167 00:09:06,280 --> 00:09:09,120 Speaker 1: He's just that good. And I think he'll bounce back. 168 00:09:09,160 --> 00:09:11,560 Speaker 1: I think he'll knock the rust off and get back 169 00:09:11,600 --> 00:09:15,240 Speaker 1: into tip top form as he was when he h 170 00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: you know, when he was at his best. Fred how 171 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:23,240 Speaker 1: this is an offseason without much change. This is a 172 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,720 Speaker 1: stable organization for the first time in a long time 173 00:09:26,760 --> 00:09:29,720 Speaker 1: in terms of the coaching staff. Only a couple of changes, 174 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:33,360 Speaker 1: wide receiver coach, passing game coordinator. Everybody else's back there. 175 00:09:34,240 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 1: Most of the core of the football team should be 176 00:09:37,000 --> 00:09:39,960 Speaker 1: back around, as you know, a couple of free agents 177 00:09:40,000 --> 00:09:43,319 Speaker 1: here there, but the core nucleus of guys, quarterback, receivers, 178 00:09:43,679 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: a couple of the offensive linemen. Right, So that's that's 179 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,040 Speaker 1: a huge step. If you can get to that point 180 00:09:49,080 --> 00:09:51,520 Speaker 1: where you're stable from one year to the next. It 181 00:09:51,600 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 1: just hasn't happened in a few years around here, and 182 00:09:54,120 --> 00:09:57,880 Speaker 1: you can't really underestimate the importance of that. Once you 183 00:09:57,920 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: begin the offseason program. You know, yeah, I'm with you 184 00:10:02,440 --> 00:10:05,480 Speaker 1: a million percent this time. I usually see a thousand percent, 185 00:10:05,760 --> 00:10:08,400 Speaker 1: but a million percent this time, JP, And that I 186 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,160 Speaker 1: used to say it all the time. You know, consistency, 187 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 1: that's what it takes, or at least that's the foundation 188 00:10:15,160 --> 00:10:19,800 Speaker 1: of growing and going further and being finding that success, 189 00:10:20,120 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: finding your way deep in the playoffs in the super Bowl. 190 00:10:22,920 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: You gotta have consistency. You gotta have players in the 191 00:10:26,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: system that are returning each and every year. You know, 192 00:10:30,480 --> 00:10:34,319 Speaker 1: maybe a nucleus, nucleus of eight of the eleven guys. 193 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 1: Guys you wanted to make sure that they're returning each 194 00:10:40,400 --> 00:10:43,720 Speaker 1: and every year so that they can play fast. And 195 00:10:43,760 --> 00:10:45,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't take make much for a coordinator. They get 196 00:10:45,960 --> 00:10:48,200 Speaker 1: the younger or the newer guys, you know, are ingrained 197 00:10:48,360 --> 00:10:51,320 Speaker 1: and situated in the system. I always looked at a 198 00:10:51,360 --> 00:10:54,480 Speaker 1: team such as the Pittsburgh Stealers. They were the one 199 00:10:54,559 --> 00:10:59,200 Speaker 1: team that you know, for eight nineteen year period, you 200 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,360 Speaker 1: see the same guys on that defense. You look on 201 00:11:02,400 --> 00:11:05,599 Speaker 1: the offense for the most part, it's the same guys. 202 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:09,120 Speaker 1: It's a plug and play type of system, and you 203 00:11:09,200 --> 00:11:12,680 Speaker 1: have to have that consistency. So back in the day JP, 204 00:11:12,800 --> 00:11:17,079 Speaker 1: I can remember vividly, you know, under the Del Rio regime, 205 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:20,640 Speaker 1: it was a new coach, like two or three new 206 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,560 Speaker 1: coaches or someone fired each and every off season. I'm like, 207 00:11:23,559 --> 00:11:29,200 Speaker 1: you're playing chess. These guys are puns and your you know, crazy, 208 00:11:29,559 --> 00:11:33,720 Speaker 1: you know, distractionary mindset. I don't know, you sort of 209 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: deflect from what you're doing by getting rid of everybody 210 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:39,720 Speaker 1: else when you simply shoudgest start with yourself. And I 211 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:43,160 Speaker 1: think we have so much integrity from top down now, 212 00:11:43,600 --> 00:11:47,800 Speaker 1: you know, starting with Doug Peterson and it trickles throughout 213 00:11:47,800 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: his staff, I believe. So I look forward to watching 214 00:11:52,400 --> 00:11:56,080 Speaker 1: this team grow over the next couple of years. Last 215 00:11:56,080 --> 00:11:58,200 Speaker 1: start with you here, Fred, what's going on with the 216 00:11:58,200 --> 00:12:02,880 Speaker 1: pivot these days? Still successful? It's it's everywhere on social media. 217 00:12:03,080 --> 00:12:06,720 Speaker 1: It really blasted off this past season. You're obviously a 218 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:08,680 Speaker 1: huge piece of that. So what do you have on 219 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,240 Speaker 1: the docket coming up with the pivot? The pivot is 220 00:12:12,559 --> 00:12:16,480 Speaker 1: making making its rounds. Man, We're still growing, still enjoying 221 00:12:16,480 --> 00:12:19,320 Speaker 1: the grind. You know, it's always we're always on the go. 222 00:12:19,880 --> 00:12:24,199 Speaker 1: We had to pivot pun intended and change our plans 223 00:12:24,240 --> 00:12:26,800 Speaker 1: this week. We were scheduled to go out to Denver 224 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,240 Speaker 1: and knock out like three three shows out there. We 225 00:12:30,320 --> 00:12:33,360 Speaker 1: had hope to grab four or five, but the weather 226 00:12:33,559 --> 00:12:36,199 Speaker 1: was kind of tricky, so we decided to come here 227 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:39,719 Speaker 1: to South Florida and shoot today. So we'll have a 228 00:12:39,800 --> 00:12:44,160 Speaker 1: shoot here at five thirty, trying to grab two when 229 00:12:44,160 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 1: we go. We try to get at least two or better, 230 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:48,199 Speaker 1: but sometimes you have that one big fish and you 231 00:12:48,280 --> 00:12:51,920 Speaker 1: just got to take it. But it's it's it's been fun. 232 00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,720 Speaker 1: I've learned a lot, you know. I enjoy the guests. 233 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 1: I enjoy I'm a fan boy a lot of the 234 00:12:57,200 --> 00:12:59,079 Speaker 1: time of a lot of the guests, and I love 235 00:12:59,120 --> 00:13:03,160 Speaker 1: picking their brain or ask questions about stories that we've heard. 236 00:13:03,520 --> 00:13:06,080 Speaker 1: So the Pivot is doing pivot things, man, and uh, 237 00:13:06,800 --> 00:13:10,240 Speaker 1: I never thought I would be on a podcast talking 238 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:15,160 Speaker 1: a lot. Yeah, but the time and it's fun. So yeah, 239 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:18,520 Speaker 1: check it out. The Pivot. The Pivot. He's all over 240 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:23,199 Speaker 1: ESPN now with that and everywhere social media. Check it out. 241 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:27,360 Speaker 1: You're a TV star, Fred, You're look at every Like Wednesday, 242 00:13:27,400 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 1: I look up at the lunch room and there's Fred 243 00:13:29,320 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: Taylor talking to stephen A. I'm like, okay, that's that's 244 00:13:33,800 --> 00:13:37,439 Speaker 1: that's our ss, that's Ryan's connection. So you know, they 245 00:13:37,520 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: see what we're doing and they see we like to 246 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,920 Speaker 1: have a good time and we try to, you know, 247 00:13:42,040 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: be open when we give our takes. So first take 248 00:13:45,480 --> 00:13:48,319 Speaker 1: has been really fun and cool. You know, the baby 249 00:13:48,360 --> 00:13:51,080 Speaker 1: to host that show and what do people think of 250 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: us over there's a pretty much an open invitation, so 251 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,880 Speaker 1: we enjoy that. But yeah, man, and you know what, 252 00:13:58,000 --> 00:14:00,000 Speaker 1: let me do this jap before we shut it down. 253 00:14:00,120 --> 00:14:04,520 Speaker 1: Yeah man, the duvall until we Die people sent me 254 00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:07,880 Speaker 1: a box to three hats. This isn't even my favorite one, 255 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: but it's nice because it has the Army fatigue and 256 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,680 Speaker 1: I got on my favorite Jaguar hoodie of all time. 257 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,400 Speaker 1: This is like I don't know, I don't know, eight 258 00:14:15,520 --> 00:14:19,360 Speaker 1: ten years old, but yes, shout out to these people. Man, 259 00:14:19,400 --> 00:14:21,960 Speaker 1: I think this was sweet. Whoever took that and ran 260 00:14:22,080 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 1: with it, congrats and I appreciate the hat, so big 261 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: shout out to y'all. Big shout out to you, Fred, 262 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,240 Speaker 1: Thanks for the time. Always good to visit and we'll 263 00:14:31,280 --> 00:14:35,480 Speaker 1: talk again soon hopefully, Yes we will, JP, I'll see you, 264 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 1: Fred Taylor proud of the Jaguars running back. Yeah, he's 265 00:14:39,120 --> 00:14:41,720 Speaker 1: loaded up. He's got the camouflage bill on that at 266 00:14:41,800 --> 00:14:45,760 Speaker 1: he's got the military appreciation sweatshirts. You know who else 267 00:14:45,800 --> 00:14:49,600 Speaker 1: has loaded up as John Ozier, Jaguars dot Com senior 268 00:14:49,640 --> 00:14:51,920 Speaker 1: writer who joins us in just a moment. The twenty 269 00:14:51,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: twenty three season is on the horizon and you want 270 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,040 Speaker 1: want to miss it, So lock in your seat to 271 00:14:57,080 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: the bank this fall. Place your deposit at Jaguars dot 272 00:14:59,640 --> 00:15:03,480 Speaker 1: com lash tickets. Seat selection is coming soon and the 273 00:15:03,560 --> 00:15:07,280 Speaker 1: perfect spot is waiting for you. Don't watch the Jags 274 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:10,440 Speaker 1: become Kings of the Jungle from your couch. Join the 275 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,840 Speaker 1: Jaguars now for thirty It's Ryan Leaf. John Ozer is 276 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:26,480 Speaker 1: Nexus Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. I 277 00:15:26,520 --> 00:15:28,680 Speaker 1: don't look at it like that. I think you know, 278 00:15:29,080 --> 00:15:31,760 Speaker 1: we're paid to do a job and had jobs to 279 00:15:31,800 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: put the best product we can out on the field. 280 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,520 Speaker 1: And I've never listened to the noise. The noise doesn't 281 00:15:37,600 --> 00:15:41,000 Speaker 1: determine the decisions that we're going to make as an organization. 282 00:15:41,480 --> 00:15:44,320 Speaker 1: And I think the best thing you can do when 283 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: there's a lot of noises, put earplugs in, you know, 284 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 1: and just go buch your job. And that's what we 285 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,680 Speaker 1: tried to do. And again it's there's never one person 286 00:15:52,720 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: that makes these decisions. It's it's a group decision, organizational decision. 287 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: Doug and I are very much involved together in this process, 288 00:16:01,120 --> 00:16:05,520 Speaker 1: and we involved everybody underneath us to a m degree. 289 00:16:05,600 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: I mean, there's just a lot of collaboration that people 290 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,960 Speaker 1: don't don't see behind the scenes. Trip Vaalky Jaguars general manager. 291 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: A couple of days after the end of the playoff run. 292 00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: He spoke I believe two days well three days after 293 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,720 Speaker 1: the game. Players and Doug Peterson spoke two days after 294 00:16:25,760 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 1: the game. He was the day after. That's been more 295 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,880 Speaker 1: Tuesday after the Divisional round Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour, 296 00:16:31,360 --> 00:16:34,120 Speaker 1: JP Shadrick no Jeff Logham in this week. He'll be 297 00:16:34,120 --> 00:16:35,360 Speaker 1: out for a couple of weeks. We'll be in the 298 00:16:35,400 --> 00:16:38,560 Speaker 1: Indian next week, so we'll have a show from the 299 00:16:38,600 --> 00:16:42,400 Speaker 1: Indian Indiana Convention Center right next to Lucas Oil Stadium 300 00:16:42,440 --> 00:16:45,600 Speaker 1: next week at the NFL Scouting Combine. If you're ready 301 00:16:45,640 --> 00:16:48,760 Speaker 1: to renew your season tickets, the time is now renew 302 00:16:48,840 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: before March eighth, and you have a chance to win 303 00:16:51,280 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: a scratch pack prize. And those prizes raigned from signed 304 00:16:54,480 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 1: merchandise to full on experiences, So lock in your seats today. 305 00:17:00,000 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 1: Awars dot Com senior writer John Osier joining us now 306 00:17:03,080 --> 00:17:06,040 Speaker 1: here on the desk in studio. Good to see it, Johnny, Ooh, 307 00:17:06,080 --> 00:17:08,920 Speaker 1: what's I've had a few full on experiences, I would say, 308 00:17:09,000 --> 00:17:14,239 Speaker 1: so you are well experienced, certainly. And we're back this week, right, 309 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:19,679 Speaker 1: we're back Tuesday podcast. Were Ye, we're everywhere everywhere you 310 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:22,520 Speaker 1: want to be. I think that's taken, but yeah, we're 311 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,840 Speaker 1: That's what we are this week. Huddle up yesterday with 312 00:17:24,880 --> 00:17:27,640 Speaker 1: Bucky Brooks and we'll be at the combine next week. 313 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:31,320 Speaker 1: And how many how many combines if you had to 314 00:17:31,320 --> 00:17:33,959 Speaker 1: add them up, if you covered in your past? My 315 00:17:34,000 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 1: first one was oh one, and I've been at every 316 00:17:38,200 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: one of them except the ones they didn't have since 317 00:17:40,600 --> 00:17:46,080 Speaker 1: that meaning COVID twenty twenty one. They didn't have one 318 00:17:46,640 --> 00:17:49,680 Speaker 1: twenty they had one right before COVID started, and last 319 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:54,440 Speaker 1: year we were back twenty one, So I guess twenty 320 00:17:54,440 --> 00:17:57,920 Speaker 1: one twenty first, I guess or in that range, because 321 00:17:58,040 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 1: uh I did. My first one was covering the Jacks 322 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:03,639 Speaker 1: for the Times Union. No one was an Indie forever 323 00:18:05,160 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 1: and only had to drive there, So yeah, it's uh, 324 00:18:08,680 --> 00:18:12,600 Speaker 1: I don't have the same I did. I did cover 325 00:18:12,680 --> 00:18:16,639 Speaker 1: it before there was podium access, before coaches went on 326 00:18:16,640 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: the podium, and it was dramatically different. Friends of mine 327 00:18:20,200 --> 00:18:22,840 Speaker 1: and Pete Prisco, some other writers who covered it about 328 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:27,440 Speaker 1: ten years before that, it will tell you it is 329 00:18:27,480 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: the most remarkably changed event over the last thirty years 330 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,960 Speaker 1: in the NFL, because there was a time where I 331 00:18:35,000 --> 00:18:36,840 Speaker 1: think Pete has stories of being there with five or 332 00:18:36,840 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: six other writers. Maybe it's and it's the explosion of 333 00:18:44,200 --> 00:18:47,520 Speaker 1: coverage on that event and the NFL's ability to make 334 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:51,480 Speaker 1: what essentially is a is a very boring event to 335 00:18:51,560 --> 00:18:58,960 Speaker 1: cover because watching guys run forties is not that exciting. 336 00:18:59,440 --> 00:19:01,960 Speaker 1: But they have made it an event on the calendar 337 00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:04,760 Speaker 1: that you would have never dreamed. It was twenty years again, 338 00:19:04,800 --> 00:19:06,760 Speaker 1: and the funny thing is it must go now. Yeah, 339 00:19:06,760 --> 00:19:08,160 Speaker 1: And we'll get into a lot of this, of course 340 00:19:08,200 --> 00:19:11,480 Speaker 1: next week in Indianapolis. Throughout our coverage on Jaguars dot com. 341 00:19:11,520 --> 00:19:14,120 Speaker 1: But it's really two different events. Now. Yeah, like we're 342 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,680 Speaker 1: gonna go not cover the testing or the forties or 343 00:19:17,720 --> 00:19:20,600 Speaker 1: any of that, because that starts Thursday with different position 344 00:19:20,640 --> 00:19:22,960 Speaker 1: groups and goes for a few days after that, we're 345 00:19:22,960 --> 00:19:26,240 Speaker 1: out of talent. On Friday, we're chasing GM and coach 346 00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:29,320 Speaker 1: and getting thoughts on the run last year and the 347 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:32,200 Speaker 1: offseason I had. And that's that's really that's the big 348 00:19:32,240 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: mile marker for us in the off season. Yeah, it 349 00:19:35,359 --> 00:19:42,560 Speaker 1: is turned into a convention information reset time, and by 350 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 1: that I mean this is the time where everybody goes up. 351 00:19:45,359 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: I think it's a good thing. Everybody goes up wanting 352 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:51,879 Speaker 1: to talk to their GM and their coach. It's a 353 00:19:52,000 --> 00:19:55,239 Speaker 1: chance for the GM and the coach to answer some 354 00:19:55,320 --> 00:20:00,920 Speaker 1: big questions or in most cases talk around a lot 355 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 1: of big question down the road. Yeah, right, well, or 356 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:07,880 Speaker 1: address and again, our our big questions next week will 357 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:12,040 Speaker 1: be hey, Juwan Taylor, Evan ingram resetting, looking ahead to 358 00:20:12,080 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 1: the draft. Well, nobody really expects Trent Balky to come 359 00:20:14,680 --> 00:20:17,680 Speaker 1: out and say, hey, we're gonna do this, which that's fine, 360 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:21,000 Speaker 1: but you'll get an idea. You have a little better 361 00:20:21,119 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 1: feel for the direction of the team and sort of 362 00:20:23,000 --> 00:20:24,520 Speaker 1: what they want to do. You'll have things to talk 363 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:28,800 Speaker 1: about and uh and I discussion points and again the 364 00:20:28,880 --> 00:20:33,000 Speaker 1: NFL has had a masterful job of that's the nice 365 00:20:33,359 --> 00:20:35,760 Speaker 1: sort of lead up to free agency, and then free 366 00:20:35,760 --> 00:20:38,280 Speaker 1: agency hits about two weeks after that. And the way 367 00:20:38,320 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 1: you go, John Osha with us, it's Jaguars Happy Hour. 368 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 1: It's our first show back after a brief hiatus after 369 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:48,000 Speaker 1: the playoff run. JP Shadrick with you, we mentioned a 370 00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,480 Speaker 1: couple of those names. I think you know, the free 371 00:20:50,520 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 1: agent list is what fourteen fifteen guys that are pending 372 00:20:55,720 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 1: unrestricted free agents for the Jaguars. Who would be the 373 00:21:00,440 --> 00:21:03,200 Speaker 1: number one priority of that list in your opinion? Well, 374 00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,600 Speaker 1: as you mentioned a couple names there, and yeah, I 375 00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:07,480 Speaker 1: think you can go either way. Yeah, I've gone back 376 00:21:07,480 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: and forth. When I was asked right after the season, 377 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,119 Speaker 1: I said Juwan Taylor because I think he's really important 378 00:21:15,160 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 1: their offensive line, and I think the offense, you know, 379 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,720 Speaker 1: and either two ones everybody everybody's talking about more than 380 00:21:20,720 --> 00:21:24,840 Speaker 1: any or Juwan Taylor and Evan Ingram, but Art and 381 00:21:24,920 --> 00:21:28,879 Speaker 1: Key's important, you know, those are the three that to 382 00:21:28,960 --> 00:21:33,080 Speaker 1: me stand out uh Smoot would be higher on my 383 00:21:33,200 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 1: list had not been for the Achilles, But he's an 384 00:21:36,359 --> 00:21:41,480 Speaker 1: important He's an important entity out of Taylor and Ingram. 385 00:21:41,560 --> 00:21:45,400 Speaker 1: I honestly have gone back and forth. Taylor's really important 386 00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:49,440 Speaker 1: because offensive line play, you want to protect that quarterback 387 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 1: and he had a very good season last year, and 388 00:21:54,040 --> 00:21:58,320 Speaker 1: he's He's particularly important conceptually because remember last year they 389 00:21:58,359 --> 00:22:01,160 Speaker 1: talked so much about wanting to resign their guys, and 390 00:22:01,400 --> 00:22:04,680 Speaker 1: here is a guy. If you resign him, then you've 391 00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:07,920 Speaker 1: resigned your two tackles. That's a foundation point. They wanted 392 00:22:07,960 --> 00:22:10,359 Speaker 1: to do that last year. So it's important. Um. I 393 00:22:10,400 --> 00:22:12,560 Speaker 1: guess the question there though, I mean, how much money 394 00:22:12,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 1: can you really throw at the offensive line? That's the 395 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:19,120 Speaker 1: answer might be there's not enough money that you can 396 00:22:19,160 --> 00:22:21,240 Speaker 1: throw it as much as you want at the offensive well, 397 00:22:21,320 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: and that would put them in huge contracts at three 398 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:29,480 Speaker 1: of the five positions for this year. But then after 399 00:22:29,520 --> 00:22:32,639 Speaker 1: this year, some of the contracts that got signed last 400 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: year aren't necessarily as um as. They're not to the 401 00:22:41,640 --> 00:22:44,600 Speaker 1: point where you have to keep those guys. If something 402 00:22:45,119 --> 00:22:48,240 Speaker 1: if a situation where you thought Walker Little was absolutely 403 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 1: ready to be that left tackle, then next year, Cam 404 00:22:52,080 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: Robinson's contract is not as I can't find the work. 405 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 1: You're right, it doesn't change you to him, so it 406 00:23:02,400 --> 00:23:05,239 Speaker 1: gives you flexibility and then after next year you can 407 00:23:05,240 --> 00:23:08,880 Speaker 1: make that decision. So again, I think they would love 408 00:23:08,920 --> 00:23:11,560 Speaker 1: to get Juan Taylor back, and I would guess they're 409 00:23:11,600 --> 00:23:13,800 Speaker 1: prepared to pay a very high number to do that. 410 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,639 Speaker 1: And yet at some point there's always a number you 411 00:23:16,640 --> 00:23:19,320 Speaker 1: can't go pass. I think that's a huge question, and 412 00:23:20,200 --> 00:23:26,080 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram at that position. I think they desperately, not desperately, 413 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:27,600 Speaker 1: but they very much want to get a long term 414 00:23:27,600 --> 00:23:29,800 Speaker 1: deal done. I think he wants to get a deal done, 415 00:23:30,560 --> 00:23:35,040 Speaker 1: and I think the tag bare minimum. I think they 416 00:23:35,040 --> 00:23:38,120 Speaker 1: would use the TAG late in the process to give 417 00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:42,000 Speaker 1: them time to figure out other cap situations to make 418 00:23:42,040 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 1: it more workable to sign Evan too long toom Be, 419 00:23:47,880 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 1: I would be shocked if Evan's not here. I would 420 00:23:51,400 --> 00:23:53,920 Speaker 1: not be shocked if Juan's not here, even though I 421 00:23:53,960 --> 00:23:55,880 Speaker 1: think both sides very much want that to happen too, 422 00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,000 Speaker 1: because the number will be much different, right, I mean, 423 00:23:58,040 --> 00:24:01,880 Speaker 1: the number the Jawan Taylor is going to command is 424 00:24:01,920 --> 00:24:05,760 Speaker 1: gonna be in theory much higher. Well, and even the 425 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:09,320 Speaker 1: tag with Juwan eighteen million dollars. Yeah, and that's a 426 00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:12,400 Speaker 1: big difference. Even in NFL money where everything is sort 427 00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:15,040 Speaker 1: of play money, that's a big difference than the eleven 428 00:24:15,119 --> 00:24:17,520 Speaker 1: I think it would be for well, I mean it's 429 00:24:17,520 --> 00:24:21,600 Speaker 1: not playing money to the guy sign of the check. Well, 430 00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,280 Speaker 1: but you know the point. Um, So even that that 431 00:24:26,280 --> 00:24:28,360 Speaker 1: that seven millions a big difference in terms of trying 432 00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: to get to a cap number this year. And then 433 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:35,560 Speaker 1: the one people aren't really talking about that much. Arden 434 00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 1: keys pretty important in that. I mean he was as 435 00:24:38,840 --> 00:24:44,080 Speaker 1: consistently and reliably as impactful as any Jaguars pass rusher 436 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: last year. Uh, Andrew Wingard was important in terms of 437 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: a lot of things in this locker room. Chris Manhertz 438 00:24:51,920 --> 00:24:55,959 Speaker 1: is very interesting to me because you can say that 439 00:24:56,040 --> 00:24:58,480 Speaker 1: he was the X number tight end, but he was 440 00:24:58,520 --> 00:25:01,840 Speaker 1: important to that running game. And you know, you want 441 00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:04,120 Speaker 1: to get guys like that back, you want to keep 442 00:25:04,119 --> 00:25:06,160 Speaker 1: get like, yeah, guys like that in the fold. So 443 00:25:07,359 --> 00:25:10,040 Speaker 1: a lot of interesting specifics to ask about next week, 444 00:25:10,800 --> 00:25:13,560 Speaker 1: confidently will be asked about. I'm sure if there's not 445 00:25:13,600 --> 00:25:17,359 Speaker 1: a resolution before next week, and they may not have 446 00:25:17,400 --> 00:25:20,119 Speaker 1: an answer next week either or those questions that are 447 00:25:20,160 --> 00:25:22,119 Speaker 1: sure to come in in the Annapolis, but it is 448 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:24,879 Speaker 1: one of the big pieces of the off season. I 449 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:28,640 Speaker 1: think his contracts would about eleven million dollars for next year. 450 00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:31,080 Speaker 1: Next year the last year of his contract because he 451 00:25:31,119 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: didn't didn't it told over to this year, so this 452 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 1: will be his fifth year in the NFL. He's a 453 00:25:36,440 --> 00:25:39,280 Speaker 1: first round pick, so here you go one year kind 454 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:41,880 Speaker 1: of prove it deal for Ridley once he is reinstated. 455 00:25:42,400 --> 00:25:44,959 Speaker 1: And you know, we were talking to Fred about it. 456 00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,400 Speaker 1: It's been a topic all offseason what he could bring 457 00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:49,720 Speaker 1: to this offense. But first off, I just got to 458 00:25:49,720 --> 00:25:53,600 Speaker 1: get him back reinstated. Second, get him pitching the ball 459 00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:55,679 Speaker 1: around with Trevor somewhere. I'm sure they'll go on their 460 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,400 Speaker 1: own somewhere and do some of that like they did 461 00:25:57,480 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 1: last year. Of course with the rest of the guys, 462 00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: I think they went to them amas or something that's 463 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:04,000 Speaker 1: not outside of the realm of possibility. And then the 464 00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:07,960 Speaker 1: offseason program is mid April, the strength and conditioning, and 465 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:10,760 Speaker 1: then they're on the field for OTAs and that's how 466 00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:13,640 Speaker 1: you start building that chemistry. Well, then that's the important part, 467 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:16,760 Speaker 1: is actually getting on the field together. I think The 468 00:26:16,880 --> 00:26:19,600 Speaker 1: nice thing for the franchise end for him in this 469 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:25,320 Speaker 1: is they acquired him in very low risk fashion for 470 00:26:25,359 --> 00:26:28,160 Speaker 1: the potential that he could have at the high end, 471 00:26:28,680 --> 00:26:32,440 Speaker 1: and you have a situation where you have a very 472 00:26:32,520 --> 00:26:36,440 Speaker 1: functioning offense around him, because I do think you'll bring 473 00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:40,200 Speaker 1: Evan Ingram back. So now, if there are six key 474 00:26:40,280 --> 00:26:43,800 Speaker 1: pieces in terms of the offensive skill positions around here, 475 00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:50,200 Speaker 1: meaning quarterback, running back, and tight end and three receivers, 476 00:26:50,720 --> 00:26:54,240 Speaker 1: you've got the other five all returning, all feeling like 477 00:26:54,280 --> 00:26:58,560 Speaker 1: there was a lot of chemistry. So while you believe 478 00:26:58,680 --> 00:27:00,960 Speaker 1: and while their reputation is that Calvin Ridley has the 479 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:04,199 Speaker 1: ability to be a one, if he's a three to 480 00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:07,960 Speaker 1: start off with, well, then you're basically plugging him for 481 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: the Marvin Jones role. And you saw last year you 482 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,680 Speaker 1: can function at a very high level with those other 483 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:19,080 Speaker 1: five playing a huge role and Marvin Jones making key catches. 484 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:22,359 Speaker 1: If that starts out as Ridley's role and he needs 485 00:27:22,400 --> 00:27:26,080 Speaker 1: time to grow into bigger role, okay, then you're the 486 00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:28,280 Speaker 1: tenth best offense in the NFL, which they were last year. 487 00:27:28,320 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: I'm saying theoretically, as he grows, how much better can 488 00:27:32,119 --> 00:27:34,800 Speaker 1: they get? I think It's an ideal situation for Calvin 489 00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:36,520 Speaker 1: to come into, and I don't know if it felt 490 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:39,679 Speaker 1: his ideal when he first got traded because it was 491 00:27:39,680 --> 00:27:41,679 Speaker 1: in November they weren't playing that well yet, and then 492 00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:45,399 Speaker 1: the last two months I think you felt what this 493 00:27:45,560 --> 00:27:49,680 Speaker 1: offense can be. So I think I think there's as 494 00:27:49,760 --> 00:27:54,800 Speaker 1: little pressure on Ridley coming in as there possibly could 495 00:27:54,800 --> 00:27:58,880 Speaker 1: be for a receiver coming in in his situation. Very 496 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,840 Speaker 1: good situation for Ridley. Johnny looking forward to going back 497 00:28:02,840 --> 00:28:04,640 Speaker 1: to Indy with you. It's been a few years since 498 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,040 Speaker 1: I've been up with you, so um, this should be 499 00:28:07,240 --> 00:28:09,119 Speaker 1: a fun week next week, once we get up there 500 00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: and settled. Yeah, it's really the week I think most 501 00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,639 Speaker 1: fans know this where you really set the tone for 502 00:28:15,680 --> 00:28:19,119 Speaker 1: the offseason. You get a lot more talking points and 503 00:28:19,200 --> 00:28:21,399 Speaker 1: get a much better feel for the team is than 504 00:28:21,520 --> 00:28:27,879 Speaker 1: right now, and it's it's a chance for GM coach 505 00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:29,440 Speaker 1: other people to start to come out of the bunker, 506 00:28:29,440 --> 00:28:32,080 Speaker 1: if you will. They've they've now had the conversations. We 507 00:28:32,119 --> 00:28:34,480 Speaker 1: all want to know desperately what's going on. We'll probably 508 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: till a couple of weeks ago. They really didn't didn't 509 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,200 Speaker 1: know their process. So now they're much more ready and 510 00:28:41,320 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: much more ready, so it's a perfect time to have 511 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:46,280 Speaker 1: this kind of opportunity. Thanks for the time, Johnny, good 512 00:28:46,280 --> 00:28:47,880 Speaker 1: to see you. Other forward to seeing you on Monday. 513 00:28:47,960 --> 00:28:51,360 Speaker 1: Jes writing Jaguars dot Com. They've had he and Bucky 514 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 1: have had Bucky Brooks might have heard of him. I 515 00:28:54,440 --> 00:28:57,080 Speaker 1: have had reviews of position groups that have started on 516 00:28:57,160 --> 00:29:00,200 Speaker 1: Jaguars dot Com. Quarterback was the other day. That was 517 00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:03,040 Speaker 1: a pretty good year for that position group, Like running 518 00:29:03,040 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: backs went up today. What's next, John, It'll be a 519 00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: wide receiver, tight end and I'm Johnny as you go 520 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:14,200 Speaker 1: through what you learn JP. Wow, were they healthy and 521 00:29:14,320 --> 00:29:17,760 Speaker 1: consistent at so many positions and where they got injured 522 00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,040 Speaker 1: they had to depth to cover for it. So see 523 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:21,959 Speaker 1: if that can hold true next year. That's John Ozer, 524 00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:26,160 Speaker 1: Senior writer, Jaguars dot Com. Up next, Ryan Leaf joining us. 525 00:29:26,200 --> 00:29:35,120 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. I 526 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:40,080 Speaker 1: don't think we even really clicked fully until probably halfway 527 00:29:40,120 --> 00:29:41,560 Speaker 1: through the season. So just to look at that and 528 00:29:41,960 --> 00:29:43,920 Speaker 1: the amount of growth that we had in one year, 529 00:29:44,280 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: just to jump up we'll be able to make from 530 00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:50,080 Speaker 1: year one to two is really exciting and Obviously, it's 531 00:29:50,120 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: gonna take a lot of work, and it's the same 532 00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 1: thing that we did last year to prepare ourselves for 533 00:29:53,360 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: this year. We gotta we gotta do that in the 534 00:29:56,040 --> 00:29:58,920 Speaker 1: offseason and get together and we will and after we 535 00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:01,600 Speaker 1: take a little bit of time really rest to get 536 00:30:01,640 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: our minds right and get ready to make a run. 537 00:30:04,320 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 1: That's Trevor Lawrence, of course, Jaguars quarterback after year or two, 538 00:30:07,640 --> 00:30:10,520 Speaker 1: a career season four him and really the back half 539 00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:13,200 Speaker 1: of the season was what the focus was after a 540 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:16,800 Speaker 1: rough first half. JP Shadrick with he was Jaguars Happy 541 00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:19,720 Speaker 1: Hour on a Thursday after our brief hiatus following the 542 00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 1: playoff run. Jeff Logaman out this week. He'll join us 543 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: in a couple of weeks. We'll be at the Combine 544 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,560 Speaker 1: next week in Indy with shows from the Indiana Convention Center. 545 00:30:27,600 --> 00:30:30,720 Speaker 1: We're on tinton Am Jaguars dot com, Jaguars Twitter, Facebook, 546 00:30:31,000 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 1: and YouTube. The podcast available on the free iHeartRadio app 547 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,479 Speaker 1: search Jacksonville Jaguars and our next guest, by the way, 548 00:30:38,560 --> 00:30:41,880 Speaker 1: our thanks to Fred Taylor nineteen ninety eight ninth overall 549 00:30:41,920 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: pick and John Osier Jaguars dot Com Senior writer. We've 550 00:30:45,520 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: got the ninety eight draft covered today because Ryan Leaf 551 00:30:48,720 --> 00:30:50,719 Speaker 1: is up next. He was the number two pick in 552 00:30:50,760 --> 00:30:53,840 Speaker 1: that draft, and he's the hardest working man in show 553 00:30:53,840 --> 00:30:59,800 Speaker 1: business these days. You're everywhere Ryan, NFL Network, ESPN, serious X, 554 00:31:00,000 --> 00:31:03,400 Speaker 1: and Westwood one points. Bet, it's great to talk with you, man. 555 00:31:03,400 --> 00:31:06,040 Speaker 1: How are you good to see you, brother? It's been 556 00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: a while. It's been a little bit. Was that November? Yeah, 557 00:31:09,960 --> 00:31:12,480 Speaker 1: somewhere in there. We were out in La together, did 558 00:31:12,480 --> 00:31:15,200 Speaker 1: the Southern Cow UCLA game at the Rose Bowl, and 559 00:31:15,360 --> 00:31:17,440 Speaker 1: spend a little time together you and the family. Good 560 00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 1: to see you again, and and here we are. I mean, 561 00:31:20,960 --> 00:31:24,440 Speaker 1: I don't know how you find time for other things. 562 00:31:24,480 --> 00:31:27,240 Speaker 1: I mean you're working constantly and then you go speak 563 00:31:27,240 --> 00:31:30,600 Speaker 1: to groups about your your path and everything that's come 564 00:31:30,680 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 1: with it. So, um, your your plate is full right now. 565 00:31:34,240 --> 00:31:38,960 Speaker 1: It feels like it is, but I don't I wouldn't 566 00:31:38,960 --> 00:31:43,320 Speaker 1: have it any other way simply because you know, idle 567 00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:46,280 Speaker 1: hands for me, you know, idle mind is not a 568 00:31:46,360 --> 00:31:50,320 Speaker 1: good place to be for a long period of time. 569 00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: So I've kind of developed this this mindset of being 570 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,480 Speaker 1: a shark, you know, always moving, and uh, it's it 571 00:31:55,560 --> 00:31:57,959 Speaker 1: seemed to have served me well over the last you know, 572 00:31:58,040 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 1: eight years or so. Having a five year old helps 573 00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 1: that because now I'm chasing his little tail around everywhere, 574 00:32:03,800 --> 00:32:07,200 Speaker 1: and you know, he's he's the most important piece of 575 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,120 Speaker 1: the puzzle right now. Ryan Leaf with us, we just 576 00:32:10,120 --> 00:32:13,080 Speaker 1: started from Trevor Lawrence there, and you know what a 577 00:32:13,120 --> 00:32:16,920 Speaker 1: season it was both ways it was. You know, he 578 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,720 Speaker 1: had just so many ups and downs this year. First 579 00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,160 Speaker 1: half throwing interceptions, but four fumbles in a game in Philadelphia, 580 00:32:24,560 --> 00:32:27,280 Speaker 1: things aren't going well. First and goal interception in London 581 00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:30,440 Speaker 1: against Denver. That was really the turning point, he said, 582 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: and then he started to protect the football and things 583 00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:35,960 Speaker 1: went well the rest of the way. Then of course 584 00:32:35,960 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: he has the four turnover game and the playoffs and 585 00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: turns it around and they rally back and win. So 586 00:32:41,600 --> 00:32:46,320 Speaker 1: he really covered the gamut of this season. But you know, 587 00:32:46,760 --> 00:32:49,760 Speaker 1: moving ahead, building off that, how do you build off 588 00:32:49,760 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: a season like Trevor Lawrence just had. Oh well, I 589 00:32:53,840 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: think there's a ton to build off of, right. I 590 00:32:55,560 --> 00:32:57,680 Speaker 1: think there was an incredible success. There was a winning 591 00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,920 Speaker 1: a division. There's getting to the playoffs, and there's also 592 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:03,480 Speaker 1: the mindset that one can struggle right and find a 593 00:33:03,480 --> 00:33:06,000 Speaker 1: way to overcome the fact that I just you know, 594 00:33:06,040 --> 00:33:07,959 Speaker 1: I only threw four interceptions a couple of times in 595 00:33:07,960 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: my career, but I there's no way if I threw 596 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:13,000 Speaker 1: four him in the first half, there's I would have 597 00:33:13,000 --> 00:33:14,520 Speaker 1: had the four to two to come back and do 598 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:16,120 Speaker 1: what he did in the playoff game against the Chargers. 599 00:33:16,120 --> 00:33:18,360 Speaker 1: I mean, that's the individual that he is is he 600 00:33:18,400 --> 00:33:21,800 Speaker 1: can throw it away, you know, put it behind him 601 00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:23,960 Speaker 1: and move on, and the guys trust him and Doug 602 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:26,720 Speaker 1: Peterson's going to continue. You watch the jump from year 603 00:33:26,800 --> 00:33:29,600 Speaker 1: one to year two. That's where I always, buddy, everybody 604 00:33:29,600 --> 00:33:31,239 Speaker 1: looks at and I know this is year three for him, 605 00:33:31,520 --> 00:33:33,280 Speaker 1: but he really didn't have a year one and everybody 606 00:33:33,320 --> 00:33:37,160 Speaker 1: should understand that. Fully. Urban Meyer was an absolute just 607 00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:41,479 Speaker 1: you know, dumpster fire for a young rookie quarterback like that. 608 00:33:41,560 --> 00:33:43,760 Speaker 1: And so what Doug Peterson's been able to bring to 609 00:33:43,760 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: the table this year and how he's performed, I think 610 00:33:45,720 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: is so special. I expect to big leap a big jump, 611 00:33:48,680 --> 00:33:50,640 Speaker 1: especially taking care of the football a year from now, 612 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:54,560 Speaker 1: and just hearing him talk like he gets his role 613 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:58,600 Speaker 1: in the organization and what he says matters and how 614 00:33:58,600 --> 00:34:00,880 Speaker 1: he goes about that and I think that he has 615 00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:02,960 Speaker 1: the respect to that locker room too. You have to 616 00:34:03,000 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 1: earn that kind of thing, and I think he has 617 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 1: so far, right, yeah, you do. I mean it's but 618 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:10,520 Speaker 1: I mean the performance in the second half alone in 619 00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,879 Speaker 1: a playoff game, when everybody in in their dog would 620 00:34:13,880 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 1: have just packed it in and said, oh, start licking 621 00:34:16,040 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 1: their wounds, let's get ready for next year, you know, 622 00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,400 Speaker 1: to stay the course. And so everybody in that locker 623 00:34:21,480 --> 00:34:23,560 Speaker 1: room got to witness what I think everybody had seen 624 00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:27,640 Speaker 1: all year long. The work ethic, you know, the championship 625 00:34:27,719 --> 00:34:30,919 Speaker 1: quality level of him, and you know he's he's set 626 00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:35,040 Speaker 1: himself up and with the coaching change, they've set themselves up. 627 00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:38,279 Speaker 1: The young talent all around the roster. They continue to 628 00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: make great moves on the roster in terms of what 629 00:34:41,120 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 1: they do putting together that kind of talent, young talent, 630 00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:48,880 Speaker 1: in fact, hitting it right in the draft. The Jags 631 00:34:48,880 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: are gonna gonna be a team, right, They're gonna be 632 00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,480 Speaker 1: a team that that vis for a championship. And that's 633 00:34:54,560 --> 00:34:58,479 Speaker 1: difficult and such a packed AFC. I mean, on the list, 634 00:34:58,560 --> 00:35:03,240 Speaker 1: they're probably they're behind Kensley, They're behind Cincinnati, they're behind Buffalo. 635 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,840 Speaker 1: You could argue they're behind Los Angeles right with the 636 00:35:06,920 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 1: quarterbacks in terms of play, but Trevor is going to 637 00:35:08,719 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 1: take them to a new level, right and those I mean, 638 00:35:11,320 --> 00:35:13,960 Speaker 1: the AFC over the next decade is going to be 639 00:35:14,000 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: just so fun to watch because it's gonna be so 640 00:35:16,120 --> 00:35:20,920 Speaker 1: darn competitive. Quarterbacks, pass rushers, everybody's got them in the AFC. 641 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:24,319 Speaker 1: It feels like Ryan Leaf is with us and well, 642 00:35:24,360 --> 00:35:26,360 Speaker 1: I mean, the quickest path to the playoffs is to 643 00:35:26,360 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: win the division obviously, so in the AFC South right now, Ryan, 644 00:35:30,200 --> 00:35:32,760 Speaker 1: I mean, the Jaguars are the catbirds. See that feels 645 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,480 Speaker 1: like the Titans are trimming guys to get down to 646 00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:37,680 Speaker 1: the salary cap. They did. They cut four guys the 647 00:35:37,680 --> 00:35:40,680 Speaker 1: other day. And the running back isn't getting anything younger. 648 00:35:40,719 --> 00:35:42,960 Speaker 1: By the way, Houston has a long way to go. 649 00:35:43,120 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: New coach Indy doesn't have a quarterback. We'll see what 650 00:35:46,000 --> 00:35:48,080 Speaker 1: they do. But I mean, the Jaguars should be in 651 00:35:48,120 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 1: command of this division for a little bit, you hope, 652 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,839 Speaker 1: So I let's say so, I'd be interested to see 653 00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:59,520 Speaker 1: what Indy does, whether they try to make a move 654 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 1: to draft quarterback or if they try to make some 655 00:36:02,120 --> 00:36:07,879 Speaker 1: big swing at one of these franchise quarterbacks that may 656 00:36:07,920 --> 00:36:11,719 Speaker 1: go on the market, Lamar Jackson being one of them. 657 00:36:11,760 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: What should they do? What should they do? In your opinion, 658 00:36:13,880 --> 00:36:16,560 Speaker 1: then Ryan in Indy, I would trade away. I would 659 00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:18,920 Speaker 1: trade away whatever they needed to to get Lamar Jackson 660 00:36:19,200 --> 00:36:24,680 Speaker 1: if he's not given the exclusive tag, and and then 661 00:36:25,520 --> 00:36:27,440 Speaker 1: you know, build around that. I think you add that. 662 00:36:27,520 --> 00:36:28,799 Speaker 1: I think the defense is good, and I think what 663 00:36:28,840 --> 00:36:30,960 Speaker 1: they have been looking for is a veteran quarterback. They 664 00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 1: just have been they needed a young, venturing quarterback. Carson 665 00:36:35,520 --> 00:36:38,799 Speaker 1: Wentz wasn't the answer, clearly. That's something I would do. 666 00:36:38,960 --> 00:36:41,400 Speaker 1: I'd look around. I understand that Bryce Young. It's just 667 00:36:41,480 --> 00:36:46,319 Speaker 1: so hard to know whether or not a first round 668 00:36:46,360 --> 00:36:47,960 Speaker 1: quarterback is going to make it or not. The right 669 00:36:48,000 --> 00:36:50,200 Speaker 1: place doesn't matter. You could be the greatest player in 670 00:36:50,239 --> 00:36:53,000 Speaker 1: the world. You don't go to the right place, Circumstances, 671 00:36:53,160 --> 00:36:55,320 Speaker 1: all the things that there just isn't a Trevor Lawrence 672 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,600 Speaker 1: in this year's draft or Joe Burrow. So you know, 673 00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: why are you willing to take what you know and 674 00:37:00,960 --> 00:37:04,400 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson's is an MVP in this league? Or you 675 00:37:04,440 --> 00:37:06,399 Speaker 1: want to go with a rookie that could become an MVP. 676 00:37:06,520 --> 00:37:08,120 Speaker 1: I don't think there. If there was a Joe Burrow 677 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:10,480 Speaker 1: or Trevor Lawrence, then it's then it's a no brainer. 678 00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm I'm calling Chicago if I'm the Colts and saying, hey, 679 00:37:13,640 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: I need to move to number one, and so let's 680 00:37:16,000 --> 00:37:19,920 Speaker 1: get it done. Ryan Leaf joining us. Let's stay on 681 00:37:19,920 --> 00:37:23,040 Speaker 1: the quarterback conversation. Aaron Rodgers came out of his darkness 682 00:37:23,080 --> 00:37:25,160 Speaker 1: retreat today. Have you ever been on one of those? 683 00:37:25,239 --> 00:37:32,040 Speaker 1: Ryan Yes, solitary confinement? Yeah, that I guess that would qualify. Yeah, 684 00:37:32,080 --> 00:37:34,640 Speaker 1: I'm sure it would. Um, So where do you think 685 00:37:34,680 --> 00:37:37,120 Speaker 1: here's gonna What do you think he figured out about 686 00:37:37,200 --> 00:37:41,400 Speaker 1: himself in his darkness four days or whatever it was. 687 00:37:42,560 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 1: I mean, you know, you know, egomaniacs with a bit 688 00:37:48,080 --> 00:37:50,720 Speaker 1: of a self esteem problem, which I think all NFL 689 00:37:50,800 --> 00:37:56,080 Speaker 1: quarterbacks are. It's pretty tough being in your own head. 690 00:37:56,280 --> 00:37:58,920 Speaker 1: So you know, I don't know what that did for him. 691 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,720 Speaker 1: I would go crazy, and I rightfully did. An instance 692 00:38:02,800 --> 00:38:05,240 Speaker 1: like that, the meditation part, being able to be still 693 00:38:05,239 --> 00:38:07,719 Speaker 1: that there might be something to that. He's always kind 694 00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:09,759 Speaker 1: of been a guy outside the box. It's helped him, 695 00:38:10,040 --> 00:38:12,839 Speaker 1: it's made him who he is. Um. He said when 696 00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:14,920 Speaker 1: he comes out, he's gonna have an answer to what 697 00:38:15,120 --> 00:38:17,480 Speaker 1: his future holds. So I mean, I suspect we'll hear 698 00:38:17,600 --> 00:38:22,239 Speaker 1: something here sooner or later. Um. I hope he does 699 00:38:22,280 --> 00:38:24,920 Speaker 1: it sooner rather than later. I just right off seasons, 700 00:38:24,960 --> 00:38:28,120 Speaker 1: with these off seasons, with with the you know, just 701 00:38:28,200 --> 00:38:31,640 Speaker 1: dragging things out is so so self absorbed. I feel 702 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:34,840 Speaker 1: like there's no doubt about that. So, I mean, what 703 00:38:34,960 --> 00:38:37,360 Speaker 1: would be his best landing spot if he decides to 704 00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:39,600 Speaker 1: play and doesn't want to be a packer and you know, 705 00:38:39,640 --> 00:38:42,600 Speaker 1: he's thirty nine years old now, So I mean not 706 00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:44,520 Speaker 1: that you can't play at forty five. We just saw 707 00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,239 Speaker 1: another guy do it. Um, but hey, he's no Spring 708 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:51,719 Speaker 1: Chicken anymore either. Well I wouldn't. I wouldn't because the 709 00:38:51,719 --> 00:38:55,360 Speaker 1: precedent been set by Tom Brady. Lump it into like, 710 00:38:55,360 --> 00:38:57,759 Speaker 1: oh this is this is possible. Now it's not. It's not. 711 00:38:58,400 --> 00:39:01,480 Speaker 1: It's not normal, right, not normal to be able to 712 00:39:01,480 --> 00:39:04,200 Speaker 1: do what he's what tom Brady was able to do. 713 00:39:04,320 --> 00:39:06,360 Speaker 1: So I thought I saw a bit of a decline 714 00:39:06,360 --> 00:39:09,160 Speaker 1: this year. I know he was banged up. I thought 715 00:39:09,160 --> 00:39:11,759 Speaker 1: he had some weapons. I feel like the best chance 716 00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: for him to win a championship is to go back 717 00:39:13,239 --> 00:39:15,319 Speaker 1: to Green Bay. I just don't think Green Bay wants that. 718 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:17,959 Speaker 1: I think they're in the same place they were when 719 00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:20,279 Speaker 1: when Brett Farr was time was to move on, and 720 00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,640 Speaker 1: now they're going to most likely you know, ship them 721 00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:27,400 Speaker 1: off somewhere. I suspect that Nathaniel Hackett higher in New 722 00:39:27,480 --> 00:39:31,400 Speaker 1: York once again had some you know, precedent in terms 723 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:34,920 Speaker 1: of trying to get Aaron Rodgers. Let's put it this way. 724 00:39:34,920 --> 00:39:36,719 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has been to one Super Bowl in his 725 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:39,399 Speaker 1: eighteen year career. The Jets haven't been to a Super 726 00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,200 Speaker 1: Bowl and over fifty years, so I mean there would 727 00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:43,399 Speaker 1: be there would need to be a lot of shifting change. 728 00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,560 Speaker 1: And also you're going to the AFC. Like, if he 729 00:39:45,600 --> 00:39:47,320 Speaker 1: stays in the NFC has a much better chance to 730 00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:48,839 Speaker 1: get to the Super Bowl, I feel than he does 731 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:51,160 Speaker 1: if he goes to play somewhere in the AFC. Yeah, 732 00:39:51,239 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: Like we just talked about all those quarterbacks. Everybody's lined up, 733 00:39:53,920 --> 00:39:56,520 Speaker 1: they've got pass rushers and everything's kind of against you. 734 00:39:56,600 --> 00:40:00,200 Speaker 1: Ryan Leaf with us last thoughts here combined next week 735 00:40:00,440 --> 00:40:03,200 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis will be up there for Jaguars dot Com 736 00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:06,000 Speaker 1: and Jaguars Radio from my Monday, will be on the 737 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:10,239 Speaker 1: air Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday in the Convention Center. What's your 738 00:40:10,520 --> 00:40:14,440 Speaker 1: your biggest memory of your combine experience Back in nineteen 739 00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:19,200 Speaker 1: ninety eight, Ryan Um that we that Peyton and I 740 00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,759 Speaker 1: ran it. I mean we did whatever we wanted. We 741 00:40:21,760 --> 00:40:23,600 Speaker 1: were gonna be the first or second pick in the draft. 742 00:40:23,719 --> 00:40:26,439 Speaker 1: We was done, so we didn't work out, we didn't 743 00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 1: do anything. You know, we went to the medical things. 744 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,120 Speaker 1: I even skipped a medical thing for the Colts or 745 00:40:31,160 --> 00:40:32,960 Speaker 1: an interview with the Colts coach because I had a 746 00:40:33,320 --> 00:40:35,640 Speaker 1: medical thing. Medical thing was the only thing that was important. 747 00:40:35,640 --> 00:40:38,040 Speaker 1: People need to see. We were we were okay. As 748 00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,120 Speaker 1: long as we got a good bill of health, we 749 00:40:40,120 --> 00:40:41,680 Speaker 1: were gonna be the first or second pick. So it's 750 00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,520 Speaker 1: much different now. Even if you're at the top, you 751 00:40:43,560 --> 00:40:45,719 Speaker 1: go and you work out and you you know, you 752 00:40:45,719 --> 00:40:48,799 Speaker 1: you compete. In Peyton and I pretty much during that spam, 753 00:40:48,800 --> 00:40:50,799 Speaker 1: I remember talking to one another going, yeah, I'm you know, 754 00:40:50,840 --> 00:40:54,760 Speaker 1: I'm I'll have my workout in April for the scouts. 755 00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:57,480 Speaker 1: But you know, and there wasn't big interviews, like the 756 00:40:57,560 --> 00:41:00,200 Speaker 1: only two teams I even talked to was San Diego 757 00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:03,080 Speaker 1: in Indianapolis and then I didn't end up making the 758 00:41:03,120 --> 00:41:05,960 Speaker 1: Indianapolis meeting because of a medical thing. So it's not 759 00:41:06,000 --> 00:41:07,960 Speaker 1: like it is now where you go and visit with 760 00:41:08,000 --> 00:41:11,400 Speaker 1: almost every team and there's conversations and there's questions and 761 00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,520 Speaker 1: stuff like that, and may have gone a long way 762 00:41:13,520 --> 00:41:16,440 Speaker 1: to seeing maybe if I was the head case that 763 00:41:16,480 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: I that I ultimately became my first couple of years, 764 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,239 Speaker 1: that might have gone a long way for you know, 765 00:41:21,320 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: some of the some of the scouts during that process. 766 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,240 Speaker 1: But yeah, the most I remember is, you know, showing 767 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:29,480 Speaker 1: up after kind of being on the banquet circuit after 768 00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,760 Speaker 1: the Rose Bowl picking up awards and hanging with boys, 769 00:41:32,800 --> 00:41:35,080 Speaker 1: after turning pro and drinking a bunch, and showing up 770 00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,799 Speaker 1: at just completely you know, biggest job interview in my life, 771 00:41:37,840 --> 00:41:39,680 Speaker 1: and I show up at two hundred and sixty eight pounds. 772 00:41:40,280 --> 00:41:43,239 Speaker 1: Uh you know, I carried it okay, but no, it 773 00:41:43,320 --> 00:41:45,880 Speaker 1: was it was not good weight, and so that should 774 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,400 Speaker 1: have been probably your your first red flag that this 775 00:41:48,520 --> 00:41:52,440 Speaker 1: dude isn't this dude isn't properly ready for what's ahead 776 00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:55,160 Speaker 1: of him. So, uh, you know, that's what I remember 777 00:41:55,160 --> 00:41:57,000 Speaker 1: from the combine. Just kind of a meat market, but 778 00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,920 Speaker 1: pretty much telling everybody to go, you know, kick rocks 779 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,200 Speaker 1: because I'm going to be the first or second pick anyway. 780 00:42:02,400 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: Is it overblown? We do? We over I mean it's 781 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,920 Speaker 1: the NFL. It happens, right, everything's got to be a 782 00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:10,799 Speaker 1: big extravaganza now in the off season. That's just the 783 00:42:10,840 --> 00:42:13,279 Speaker 1: way things are built or have been building in the 784 00:42:13,400 --> 00:42:14,759 Speaker 1: in the league, and this is one of those. I 785 00:42:14,760 --> 00:42:18,120 Speaker 1: mean there's like a twelve hundred credential media at this thing, right. 786 00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:21,799 Speaker 1: I think it's important for a couple of reasons. I 787 00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:26,799 Speaker 1: think for the medical aspect of things, in particular with 788 00:42:26,880 --> 00:42:32,200 Speaker 1: COVID over the last four years and understanding some of 789 00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:34,520 Speaker 1: the heart implications and some things they may have not 790 00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:36,239 Speaker 1: been tested for and stuff like that. So I think 791 00:42:36,280 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 1: that's important. The medical side of things, I think the questioning. 792 00:42:40,440 --> 00:42:43,680 Speaker 1: I think the stringent nature of the itinerary and the 793 00:42:43,760 --> 00:42:48,040 Speaker 1: schedule to see how you conduct yourself in as you know, 794 00:42:48,080 --> 00:42:50,799 Speaker 1: in a structured environment. I think that's usual. The on 795 00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:55,680 Speaker 1: the field stuff, I like the testing aspect of things. 796 00:42:55,719 --> 00:43:00,320 Speaker 1: I like the athletic testing type of stuff. I don't know, 797 00:43:00,440 --> 00:43:04,400 Speaker 1: the throwing, the running, receivers running, that's not not so 798 00:43:04,400 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: so that's just you know, we could all do that. 799 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:09,120 Speaker 1: I could go out in my underwear right now and 800 00:43:09,120 --> 00:43:11,000 Speaker 1: throw the ball sixty five yards down the field. Right. 801 00:43:11,800 --> 00:43:15,040 Speaker 1: It's just how just how it works, you know. So 802 00:43:15,239 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: all the other stuff that comes with it, I think 803 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:18,480 Speaker 1: is important. The fact that the NFL has turned it 804 00:43:18,520 --> 00:43:22,280 Speaker 1: into a moneymaker is just another example of the NFL, 805 00:43:22,440 --> 00:43:25,759 Speaker 1: right kind of money making propaganda machine is what they are, 806 00:43:25,840 --> 00:43:28,680 Speaker 1: you know, and they continue to do it. And to 807 00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:32,279 Speaker 1: no surprise, you know, to no surprise to me. We'll 808 00:43:32,320 --> 00:43:35,160 Speaker 1: be there next week. Ryan, good to see you, Thanks 809 00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:37,640 Speaker 1: for the time telling Anna m Aguiver high and we'll 810 00:43:37,680 --> 00:43:40,560 Speaker 1: talk to you again down the line, man, you bet. JP. 811 00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,080 Speaker 1: Good to see you, thanks, brother Ryan Leaf joining us, 812 00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:46,440 Speaker 1: And yeah, what a conversation there with a guy from 813 00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:50,040 Speaker 1: the nineteen ninety eight NFL draft. He's really built things 814 00:43:50,080 --> 00:43:55,760 Speaker 1: back well. He's all over media, NFL Network, ESPN, College Football, Serious, 815 00:43:55,960 --> 00:43:59,000 Speaker 1: XMNFL Radio, Westwood won games. I mean, the guy is 816 00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,160 Speaker 1: all over the place and really has a unique insight 817 00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,920 Speaker 1: as to the process. He went through it it didn't 818 00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:10,879 Speaker 1: go so well, and he's built things back, obviously. And 819 00:44:11,200 --> 00:44:13,960 Speaker 1: good to hear from Ryan today. Plenty to come when 820 00:44:13,960 --> 00:44:16,600 Speaker 1: we come back, we'll wrap things up. 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You know, 829 00:44:47,560 --> 00:44:50,759 Speaker 1: There's even some second third year guys I have have never 830 00:44:50,800 --> 00:44:53,960 Speaker 1: been to the postseason. So how they handle these next 831 00:44:54,000 --> 00:44:57,960 Speaker 1: couple of months is critical to their performance, their success. 832 00:45:00,320 --> 00:45:02,560 Speaker 1: And then when we start the offseason program, you know, 833 00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,640 Speaker 1: mid April again, you know just where they are, you know, 834 00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:10,040 Speaker 1: mentally with you know, starting another season. But it's truly 835 00:45:10,040 --> 00:45:13,600 Speaker 1: a reset, you know, at this point. Doug Peterson the 836 00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:17,000 Speaker 1: two days after the end of the playoff run, welcome back. 837 00:45:17,000 --> 00:45:20,279 Speaker 1: It's Jaguars Happy Our JP Shadrick No Jeff Laghman this 838 00:45:20,320 --> 00:45:23,000 Speaker 1: week or next. He'll be with us in a couple 839 00:45:23,000 --> 00:45:26,400 Speaker 1: of weeks. We've had a few weeks away for a hiatus, 840 00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:30,000 Speaker 1: and we are back, baby, Welcome to Jaguars Happy Hour. 841 00:45:30,040 --> 00:45:32,600 Speaker 1: We'll be at the Combine next week in Indianapolis, John Ozan, Now, 842 00:45:32,640 --> 00:45:36,040 Speaker 1: we'll be there with our entire crew from Jaguars dot Com. 843 00:45:36,040 --> 00:45:39,320 Speaker 1: We'll chase around the general manager and head coach Bulky 844 00:45:39,400 --> 00:45:42,880 Speaker 1: and Peterson for a few days and plenty of guests 845 00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:46,560 Speaker 1: on the docket to join us in either podcast form 846 00:45:46,680 --> 00:45:49,400 Speaker 1: or on shows or whatever the case may be. Tuesday, 847 00:45:49,440 --> 00:45:53,800 Speaker 1: Wednesday and Thursday. Hey, the twenty twenty three concert season 848 00:45:53,960 --> 00:45:56,319 Speaker 1: is here, and there's no better time to become a 849 00:45:56,400 --> 00:45:59,120 Speaker 1: Dailies Place Blue member than right now. Enjoy the best 850 00:45:59,120 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: seats and amenity, premium parking and more, and you can 851 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:05,640 Speaker 1: watch Kenny Chesney, Old Dominion, Yellow Card and much more. 852 00:46:06,200 --> 00:46:09,720 Speaker 1: For more information, email ticketing at Bold Events dot com 853 00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:13,200 Speaker 1: or call nine oh four six three three two thousand. 854 00:46:13,960 --> 00:46:16,960 Speaker 1: Well that's on the other end of Tia Bank Field 855 00:46:17,080 --> 00:46:20,959 Speaker 1: on the north west side. I suppose that is. It's 856 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:23,719 Speaker 1: the Miller Electric Center. If you're watching us on Jaguars 857 00:46:23,760 --> 00:46:26,600 Speaker 1: dot Com and Jaguars Social Media, a live look outside. 858 00:46:26,640 --> 00:46:29,360 Speaker 1: It's a beautiful sun splash day on the first coast 859 00:46:29,680 --> 00:46:34,080 Speaker 1: temperature in the eighties. I think partly cloudy sky, and 860 00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,720 Speaker 1: there you have it. It is on track to open 861 00:46:36,760 --> 00:46:39,640 Speaker 1: this summer and the football team will move in there 862 00:46:39,719 --> 00:46:43,400 Speaker 1: ahead of training camp and be ready to roll. The 863 00:46:43,480 --> 00:46:47,200 Speaker 1: fields are being leveled out. It looks like the building 864 00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:49,600 Speaker 1: itself has glass on the outside now, so all the 865 00:46:49,640 --> 00:46:52,200 Speaker 1: inside stuff starting to happen. I haven't had a chance 866 00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:55,040 Speaker 1: to walk through it yet, been looking forward to whenever 867 00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 1: that first tour or whatever happens. They're starting to pour 868 00:46:57,920 --> 00:47:02,440 Speaker 1: concrete outside the walkways into the stadium part and training 869 00:47:02,440 --> 00:47:04,719 Speaker 1: camp as far as we know, this season will be 870 00:47:04,800 --> 00:47:08,200 Speaker 1: held right there outside Tiaa Bank Field for the first 871 00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,399 Speaker 1: time in a little while. And you know, that's part 872 00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:15,520 Speaker 1: of a lot going on around the stadium these days. 873 00:47:15,560 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 1: The four Seasons site, the shipyards has dirt moving there. 874 00:47:19,719 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: No word yet on maybe there might be an official 875 00:47:22,680 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 1: groundbreaking at some point, but there's nothing on the calendar 876 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,680 Speaker 1: as of yet. But they are moving some things around, 877 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:30,279 Speaker 1: at least starting the process there. There's a fence up 878 00:47:30,400 --> 00:47:33,320 Speaker 1: and there's dirt being moved, so that's a good step 879 00:47:33,600 --> 00:47:36,080 Speaker 1: in the right direction. Of course, the Stadium of the 880 00:47:36,120 --> 00:47:40,319 Speaker 1: Future talk is beginning, but nothing official on that front either, 881 00:47:40,440 --> 00:47:42,960 Speaker 1: So there's a lot to come in the years for 882 00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,560 Speaker 1: the Jaguars around the stadium. Let's take a quick look 883 00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:49,120 Speaker 1: around the NFL. We mentioned it briefly with Ryan Leaf, 884 00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:52,040 Speaker 1: but in the AFC South this week, the Tennessee Titans 885 00:47:52,040 --> 00:47:55,120 Speaker 1: whacked four veterans to get below the salary cap left 886 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:59,160 Speaker 1: tackle Taylor Lawan, wide receiver Robert Woods, kicker Randy Bullock, 887 00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:02,880 Speaker 1: and linebackers at Cunningham. They cleared nearly thirty eight million 888 00:48:02,880 --> 00:48:05,440 Speaker 1: dollars in cap space and forty two million dollars in 889 00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:08,239 Speaker 1: cash off their books for next season. Woods was there 890 00:48:08,280 --> 00:48:10,920 Speaker 1: one year after he was traded from the Rams. Lawan 891 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:13,239 Speaker 1: was a fourteen first round pick, but he had knee 892 00:48:13,239 --> 00:48:16,280 Speaker 1: injuries the last two years and played only seven games 893 00:48:16,800 --> 00:48:20,040 Speaker 1: over that span. Eric Bienemy named the assistant head coach 894 00:48:20,080 --> 00:48:24,360 Speaker 1: and OC of the Washington Commanders. The press conference was today. 895 00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:27,160 Speaker 1: He was the chiefs OC from eighteen to twenty two 896 00:48:27,680 --> 00:48:30,920 Speaker 1: and the running backs coach there in from twenty thirteen 897 00:48:30,960 --> 00:48:34,839 Speaker 1: to seventeen. He's had a number of head coaching interviews 898 00:48:34,880 --> 00:48:38,040 Speaker 1: that have not gone his way, and he makes the 899 00:48:38,080 --> 00:48:41,600 Speaker 1: move over to Washington to maybe a change could change 900 00:48:41,640 --> 00:48:43,920 Speaker 1: his fortunes in the future. He said, he's focused only 901 00:48:44,239 --> 00:48:46,479 Speaker 1: on this job at this moment. We mentioned it also 902 00:48:46,520 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 1: with Brian Aaron Rodgers has emerged from his cave in Oregon, 903 00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:52,680 Speaker 1: ending his darkness for retreat, a three hundred square foot 904 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: room and a partially underground structure with a queen bed, 905 00:48:56,040 --> 00:48:59,640 Speaker 1: bathroom and meditation map. He's not really roughing and it's 906 00:48:59,680 --> 00:49:02,680 Speaker 1: full powered. The lights can be turned on from inside 907 00:49:02,680 --> 00:49:06,480 Speaker 1: the room, so it's really a hotel underground. Well. He 908 00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,920 Speaker 1: said he had scheduled the four days and nights in 909 00:49:08,920 --> 00:49:12,600 Speaker 1: that isolation and looking for a better sense of where 910 00:49:12,640 --> 00:49:14,839 Speaker 1: he is in his life. He's thirty nine years old. 911 00:49:14,840 --> 00:49:17,960 Speaker 1: He's under contract for fifty nine point four million with 912 00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:22,000 Speaker 1: the Packers this season. Coming up, Vants Joseph, former Broncos 913 00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:25,959 Speaker 1: head coach, has been named the Broncos defensive coordinator, going 914 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,239 Speaker 1: back to Denver to work under Sean Payton. He'll do 915 00:49:29,239 --> 00:49:31,200 Speaker 1: it for our program today thanks to all our guests 916 00:49:31,360 --> 00:49:34,000 Speaker 1: and Fred Taylor. Prior to the Jaguars running back joining 917 00:49:34,080 --> 00:49:36,160 Speaker 1: us at the top of the show. John Ozer Jaguars 918 00:49:36,200 --> 00:49:40,000 Speaker 1: dot Com senior writer, former second overall pick in nineteen 919 00:49:40,080 --> 00:49:43,359 Speaker 1: ninety eight and a media mogul these days. Ryan Leaf 920 00:49:43,480 --> 00:49:46,239 Speaker 1: joining us as well. Our thanks to Brent Reebert, David Choe, 921 00:49:46,600 --> 00:49:50,040 Speaker 1: Joe Fortunato. I'm JP Shadwick. We will catch you next 922 00:49:50,040 --> 00:50:01,520 Speaker 1: time in Indie next week on Jaguars Happy Hour n