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Speaker 1: name is Tank. This is the Army Money Podcast, the
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Speaker 1: We're gonna get to that. We're gonna get to that.
Speaker 1: I respect, I respect your love. I respect the ten
Speaker 1: toes down, I respect it. I'm faithful to the game,
Speaker 1: to the nine gang man we are. We are foregoing
Speaker 1: our normal routine. Yeah, and today we're just gonna talk
Speaker 1: to talk, we wrap up. We're gonna do a wrap up.
Speaker 1: It's been so much cool R and B ship going
Speaker 1: on two weeks of cool, two cold weeks of cool. Arbi.
Speaker 1: We gotta talk about it. And and our first stop
Speaker 1: where we're going, Where we're going, it's gonna be the
Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, twenty twenty four Grammys. Great show, great show,
Speaker 1: great show. I'm saying, an amazing show. That was an
Speaker 1: amazing show. Yeah, I enjoyed watch listen. Me and a
Speaker 1: fan we watched it. And I'm not like there's always something,
Speaker 1: you know, there's always like a I did right right,
Speaker 1: great show, great show. I agree, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I'd like to get into the winners though, because you
Speaker 1: know this R and B Money podcast, I like to
Speaker 1: come on, let's get to the winners, talk about these
Speaker 1: you know these R and B and listen, everybody that
Speaker 1: was nominated, Congratulations your regulations, because that in itself is
Speaker 1: an accomplishment your winners. In my book, you should get
Speaker 1: trophies for that. Let's start certificates, right, you get a
Speaker 1: nomination certificate, nominated certificate, and a medal medal. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: there should be like a small little especially if there's
Speaker 1: a R and B get you get a trinking Album
Speaker 1: of the Year. You're one of the producers and writers
Speaker 1: on the album. All right, listen, I might start giving
Speaker 1: them my candles. We got to give out something because
Speaker 1: the Valentine we talked to Harvey about this smells amazing
Speaker 1: to Best R and B Song. The nominees were Cocle Jones,
Speaker 1: I see you, Haley Angel Helly Is it hally or Hey?
Speaker 1: I want to say that, right, I think it's Holly.
Speaker 1: I think it's Halle right, Yeah, yeah, hally Is has
Speaker 1: got a thing to it, right.
Speaker 2: I mean, I just I grew up on Holly Berry Holley,
Speaker 2: So I think when every time I see that name,
Speaker 2: I just think, okay, okay, y.
Speaker 1: Uh. Robert Glasper featured siring excisely back to Love What
Speaker 1: a song, Scissor Snooze, Victoria, Oh my Mama, and the
Speaker 1: winner was a snooze.
Speaker 2: I can't say nothing about that. Snoozes listening snoozes amazing.
Speaker 1: Super amazing. I mean, listen back to Love Special my Mama,
Speaker 1: you can't even get you can't get away from you
Speaker 1: can't get.
Speaker 2: My Mom was a movement. These are a great song,
Speaker 2: great song. These are great song.
Speaker 1: I see you that was That was a super viral TikTok.
Speaker 1: That was everywhere. Angel is just you know what. I
Speaker 1: like Angel. You know, I like Angel in this category
Speaker 1: because it's like it's a classic. It's a it's a
Speaker 1: real classic record, and she is a straight ahead bonafarde
Speaker 1: flat footage singer. Cold Blood. Cold Blood shout.
Speaker 2: Out the sism, I mean shout out to Babyface, the
Speaker 2: baby face yea from the production and you know the
Speaker 2: music side, and I met the young fella who also
Speaker 2: wrote and produced with them from the track side.
Speaker 1: Christopher Rick Times. Christ to that young brother, send me
Speaker 1: some records, brother, you got Grammy's now on be that's
Speaker 1: what I say. Progressive. Yeah, where we're at. Best progressive
Speaker 1: R and B album, Okay Diddy Love Album Off the Grid,
Speaker 1: Terrence Martin, James foun Leroy No Special, Janel mon Age
Speaker 1: of Pleasure. I just love that title. Yeah, I vote
Speaker 1: for that title. Scissor s O s Wow. I always
Speaker 1: messed this up black that I just I just everybody
Speaker 1: wanted to say. Six wanting. It's got a little thing.
Speaker 1: Six lacks came through this whole man ship since since
Speaker 1: I have a lover, that's that's that title is incredible too.
Speaker 1: And the Winter amazing album, amazing album in my opinion
Speaker 1: album what about it? We will get there?
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just my opinion though, right because it's we're
Speaker 2: gonna get there and it's objectives.
Speaker 1: We gonna get there. Here here, Best R and B
Speaker 1: performance Chris Brown Summer Too Hot. It's my favorite joints
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, uh, Coco Jones, I see you Fire, Robert Glasberg,
Speaker 1: Sir Alex Eisley, Back to Love says a Kill, Bill
Speaker 1: Jesus Christ, Victorian Money, How does it make you feel Heavy?
Speaker 1: Category winner? Coco Jones, I see you what a record?
Speaker 1: You get? No argument out of me? On that what
Speaker 1: a record, incredible record.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't have she sang her heart out on I
Speaker 2: wouldn't R and B performance, She sang her art.
Speaker 1: I wouldn't have been mad at I mean, you know,
Speaker 1: I'll be going back to that, back to love, just
Speaker 1: be that, back to love be killing me. Yeah, but
Speaker 1: no argument, not a one. She earned that Best Traditional
Speaker 1: R and B Performance Babyface featuring Cocal Jones Simple. That
Speaker 1: album was Fire by the Way, Babyface, Ken Dixon, Lucky Fire,
Speaker 1: Super Fire, PJ. Morton featuring Susanne Carrol, Good Morning Special,
Speaker 1: Siza Love Language, Victorian Monette featuring Earth Wind and Fire,
Speaker 1: and Hazel Money. Shout out to the Baby. Yeah yeah,
Speaker 1: baby got publishing. Baby. You know what I'm saying, Baby
Speaker 1: got mechanicals. You know what I'm saying. I love that
Speaker 1: we're doing that too. Now.
Speaker 2: You got to that we including the kids and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, we letting them get get it early.
Speaker 1: I think that I think that you know, those handouts,
Speaker 1: you know, I think we come from a long line
Speaker 1: of you know, well I had to do it the
Speaker 1: hard way. You gotta do it the hard way, right.
Speaker 1: We come from a long line of that, as opposed
Speaker 1: to Okay, I did that, so you don't have to
Speaker 1: do that, but you are going to have to do this. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Now we have to start creating a different type of
Speaker 2: generational wealth.
Speaker 1: A different type of generational.
Speaker 2: Wealth, right because we've had we've had a wealth of
Speaker 2: a lot of things that aren't lucrative in the positive way.
Speaker 1: Talk about it, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: We have a lot of wealth of violence, a lot
Speaker 2: of wealth of trauma, a lot of wealth of a
Speaker 2: lot of foolishness. Let's now create the wealth of success,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, as we continue to pass
Speaker 2: that on to our kids.
Speaker 1: And I love that.
Speaker 2: I love the fact that Blue Ivy has a Grammy
Speaker 2: love that, you know what I'm saying, And that that
Speaker 2: that Hazel Monette has a nomination. It's what it should
Speaker 2: be though, you know what I mean? That that was
Speaker 2: Stevie Wonder's daughter on Isn't she lovely?
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? So it's like, you know,
Speaker 1: I'm glad that's something that's you know who the winner
Speaker 1: on this one was the winner on PJ Morton features
Speaker 1: Good Morning, Yes, Yes, Shout out to our brother peach Fire,
Speaker 1: super Fire Record Best R and B Album, Babyface Girls,
Speaker 1: night Out. I love that album. Coco Jones. What I
Speaker 1: didn't tell you? Deluxe del you know Deluxe is there,
Speaker 1: Emily King, Special Occasion, Summer Walker, Clear Too, Soft Life EP.
Speaker 1: Soft Life is kind of a bar. That's where the
Speaker 1: girls are now. Victoria Money Jaguar two, which was the winner.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Victoria Money. Put in the work. She
Speaker 1: put in the work, in work. They understand how long
Speaker 1: how long it took for her to get here. Yeah,
Speaker 1: that was a real process. Like, this is not overnight.
Speaker 1: A lot of you that are new to the Discovery
Speaker 1: is just dancing now to own my mama. You have
Speaker 1: no idea, you know what I mean? And so this
Speaker 1: is like, this is real. This is rooted in the
Speaker 1: real foundation of you know, blood, sweat and tears, real foundation. Nothing.
Speaker 1: This isn't a TikTok. You know, I've overnight sensation. This
Speaker 1: is I.
Speaker 2: Met Victoria at least fifteen years ago for the first time.
Speaker 1: Bro, we we used to be. I'm talking about yeah,
Speaker 1: one bedroom apartment, one bedroom. Yeah, it might have been
Speaker 1: a loft in there, but the folks show just one bedroom. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, all right, you're gonna you're gonna
Speaker 1: you're gonna get somewhere. I'm telling you. She got a
Speaker 1: lot of bedrooms. Now, yeah, she got the big house.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, I've seen it on the Instagram, so I
Speaker 1: seen it. You know, you know, you know the sound travels. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know. Shout out to big Man. So awesome, so awesome.
Speaker 1: Let's go the best new artists. Okay, because that was
Speaker 1: that was a dope one. Coco Jones, Gracie Abrams, Yes, yes, yes,
Speaker 1: Fred again Ice Spice, Jelly Row, Jelly Row. Noah, I
Speaker 1: don't want to say that wrong. I'm gonna say Noah, Kahan.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna it could be ka Han k Han, just
Speaker 1: con or just Khan ship. Take a look.
Speaker 3: It's in up book reading Boo, I can do anything. Uh,
Speaker 3: Victoria Mone the War and treaty.
Speaker 1: The war entreaty. I'm not sure if you're tapped into
Speaker 1: them yet. I am not.
Speaker 2: They are so cold. I gotta get they are so cold.
Speaker 2: It's a husband and wife team. And the husband, from
Speaker 2: my understanding, was like a war vet. I want to
Speaker 2: say he was in the military, and they're special.
Speaker 1: They're special. M I gotta give real talk special. Yeah. Well,
Speaker 1: the winner was Victoria Money. We talked about it. Yeah,
Speaker 1: large hallways, many bedrooms sound and this is what I'll
Speaker 1: say about that too.
Speaker 2: I don't know anybody else's path, all of the other
Speaker 2: artists that are in it, for sure, I can only
Speaker 2: attest to her of me seeing it, you know, as
Speaker 2: a first look direct to her, and I just I
Speaker 2: commend her for not giving up because you know, I say,
Speaker 2: I've said it multiple times. I think that the difference
Speaker 2: between being successful and not being successful and whatever you do,
Speaker 2: it's just not giving up. And she is literally the
Speaker 2: proto type of not giving up.
Speaker 1: Like she did not give up.
Speaker 2: I've seen her go through all fase is of the
Speaker 2: music business and it never knocked her down or never
Speaker 2: was like you know what, this ain't it for me?
Speaker 1: And she had a great album on on the original Jaguar, Yeah,
Speaker 1: and COVID happened, all these things been cooking. Can just
Speaker 1: can hear that?
Speaker 2: And I don't you know, And this is another thing.
Speaker 2: I don't know the criteria of when you can't be
Speaker 2: considered a new artist, but I do know this is
Speaker 2: her first.
Speaker 1: Major label album.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that goes because you know, I
Speaker 2: saw some of the people in the chatter of Oh, well,
Speaker 2: how is she best new artists?
Speaker 1: She been out? Well, I don't know how that goes
Speaker 1: m personally because are the other ones albums that has
Speaker 1: to be considered an album in order for you to
Speaker 1: be our mixtapes, right, So that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that goes, but looked at it,
Speaker 2: she's very deserving in my opinion, love that award.
Speaker 1: We also got some R and B in uh in
Speaker 1: the Song of the Year. I believe with all these
Speaker 1: you know, Billy Eilish, what was I made for Monster record?
Speaker 1: Dua Lipa Dance to Night? John Baptiste Butterfly, He's just
Speaker 1: dumb talent. He just like him like a w mighty
Speaker 1: Cyrus Flowers loved that song. Incredible. Olivia Rodrigo Vampire. He
Speaker 1: always gonna act like he knows man to say it
Speaker 1: the right way. Baby, definitely just I don't know Bill
Speaker 1: and Taylor's with Anti Hero And that winner was Billie Eilish.
Speaker 1: Great record, great record, It's an R and B record.
Speaker 2: I'm still fighting and this is why in this category
Speaker 2: I'll say this kill Bill in my opinion, is one
Speaker 2: of the best written songs I've heard in my life,
Speaker 2: in my life, it scares me. No, no, listen as
Speaker 2: a man, it scares me because I believe this is
Speaker 2: my thing of how you should to me.
Speaker 1: Once again, subjective opinion.
Speaker 2: All these things are the way I rate music is
Speaker 2: how it makes me feel, of course, not how it
Speaker 2: makes nobody else feel.
Speaker 1: How it makes me feel.
Speaker 2: And like I said, this record feels like a thriller
Speaker 2: to me because of what she's saying and how it
Speaker 2: all ties in and the emotion she evokes from what
Speaker 2: she's going through. And truth for the matter is think
Speaker 2: about really what she's saying. It should not be a
Speaker 2: pop hit. You don't think that it would be a
Speaker 2: pop hit. She's talking about killing something, she's about double murder.
Speaker 1: You gotta put them down sometimes.
Speaker 2: No, you don't. Don't kill the X and his new girl.
Speaker 2: Like just I would say get over it, but that
Speaker 2: that song just holds a different a different type of
Speaker 2: space for me because I just know how I felt
Speaker 2: when I hear it, or how I feel when I
Speaker 2: hear it, And to me, that makes it where I
Speaker 2: don't think nothing should be a record like that to me.
Speaker 1: To me, you know when I'm with you and when
Speaker 1: I heard it, I thought it was. I thought it
Speaker 1: was of course creative genius. I thought the way it
Speaker 1: was written was just amazingly done. It still felt like
Speaker 1: it still felt cute to me, though, cute because it's
Speaker 1: still felt because it's still a bright it's kind of dark.
Speaker 2: I get it, and that's probably why it's worked so well.
Speaker 1: It has the dark under disguised, yes, under the under
Speaker 1: the sesame streets, like we're just like, I'm gonna kill Mack,
Speaker 1: But what did you say? That's why it's so fucking
Speaker 1: great to me, I think. But when I heard that,
Speaker 1: when I heard that what was I Made for? I was,
Speaker 1: I was. I was moved like I was like I was,
Speaker 1: I was stuck listening to the record. I was stuck
Speaker 1: and I was like this tone, of course melody and
Speaker 1: of course the words like it's just it's it's like,
Speaker 1: I mean, especially no, you can't, you can't.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying my personally, my personal pick would have
Speaker 2: been killed Bill, because I just I feel that, you
Speaker 2: know that record is level for me.
Speaker 1: Album of the Year. Mm hmm mm hmm. There was
Speaker 1: there was you know, there's people in there. We're gonna
Speaker 1: go straight there, we'll go out let's go. Let's no, No,
Speaker 1: let's go, let's go. Let's have it, Let's have it,
Speaker 1: get it, let's get to it. Let's get to year.
Speaker 1: Uh Boy, Genius the Record, Janelle Monet, Age of Pleasure,
Speaker 1: John Baptiste, World Music Radio, Lina del Ray. Did you
Speaker 1: know that there's a there's a tunnel under Ocean Boulevard
Speaker 1: that's fire? Uh Manley Cyrus, Endless Summer Vacation, Olivia Rodrigo, Guts,
Speaker 1: sizz A s o S. Taylor Swift, Midnights Winter Taylor Swift.
Speaker 2: I don't agree, not for me, for me once again,
Speaker 2: for me, Yeah, you know what I mean. I think
Speaker 2: it was a great album. Did I feel like it
Speaker 2: was album of the year. No, because once again I
Speaker 2: felt like Sis had album of the Year.
Speaker 1: To me, I felt like Sissa had so many standouts, right,
Speaker 1: that has to ultimately lead to the best body of
Speaker 1: work if you have that many call out records from
Speaker 1: an album like my kid, my daughter is Siss a
Speaker 1: fan club times a thousand from this this this album.
Speaker 2: Yeah gone, yeah, no, she she she did something, She
Speaker 2: did something amazing with this with this project. It's a
Speaker 2: full project and she really like you could you could
Speaker 2: feel what she was going through this whole album and
Speaker 2: just the way it's written and it's not and you know,
Speaker 2: you know me, I'm I'm an advocate for all things
Speaker 2: R and B, but it's not fully just an R
Speaker 2: and B not at all.
Speaker 1: It's hip pop, R and B pop. It's everywhere it has,
Speaker 1: but it's cohesive.
Speaker 2: It's like she doesn't lose herself within this album where
Speaker 2: it's like, oh, I'm just trying to make all these
Speaker 2: people happy.
Speaker 1: I'm just like, no, this is just who I am.
Speaker 1: They don't even think this conversation is even against Taylor.
Speaker 1: I think Taylor made a grill. She makes great music.
Speaker 1: But I think what this album did for Sissa and
Speaker 1: where it placed Sissa in the conversation overall as a
Speaker 1: world superstar speaks to the weight that that album holds,
Speaker 1: you know what I mean? Like, I think we've we've
Speaker 1: we've seen we've seen Taylor in stadiums for good a
Speaker 1: little while now, we've seen at the top of the
Speaker 1: charts for quite some time now. She's been in the
Speaker 1: world music dominance conversation for for quite a while. But this,
Speaker 1: the weight of this Scissor album propelled her into a
Speaker 1: whole other world, the three of that conversation.
Speaker 2: No, she up there, she's when you mentioned now from
Speaker 2: this and listen, people can say what they want, but
Speaker 2: now when you mention the top women in music, because yeah,
Speaker 2: she's absolutely in the top artist too, for sure, but
Speaker 2: women have been kicking everybody's ass. And when you women,
Speaker 2: I mean when you when you mentioned women, she's in there,
Speaker 2: when you mentioned Rihanna, Beyonce, Taylor Swift, Sizza has now
Speaker 2: entered that conversational. And that's tough. That's it's really hard
Speaker 2: to get into that space. The weight of that album
Speaker 2: and that's what that album that album, and that's why
Speaker 2: for me, it's like, yeah, the power of that album
Speaker 2: can thrust you into that right. Shout out the top
Speaker 2: dog entertain Shout out to that, Shout out to top dog,
Speaker 2: Shout out to Punch, Shout out to those amazing young
Speaker 2: black men.
Speaker 1: Huh doing the thing? I want to say, those two
Speaker 1: artists out there, and songwriters and producers and an rs
Speaker 1: and labels, it's a testament to taking your time in
Speaker 1: doing something.
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, they be attacking my dog punch on Twitter.
Speaker 2: They be attacking punch because they say punch. It be
Speaker 2: holding up the albums. But that's great an RN. You
Speaker 2: will get it when it's right. I forgot shout out
Speaker 2: to Mixed by Ali too, because that that man is
Speaker 2: amazing as an engineer in the mixer.
Speaker 1: You will get it when it's right. Yeah, yeah, and
Speaker 1: the results are.
Speaker 2: I have to say, yeah, now you're in that space.
Speaker 2: But while we're here, right, like, let's have a real
Speaker 2: conversation about how these awards are won though, right because
Speaker 2: we're going to talk about Album of the Year while
Speaker 2: we're still at Album of the Year. And you know,
Speaker 2: there was there was also the moment in the awards
Speaker 2: where jay Z spoke on the fact that Beyonce don't
Speaker 2: have no Album of the Years. And in my opinion,
Speaker 2: the reason that that happens that a lot less urban
Speaker 2: artists black yep don't have Album of the Years is
Speaker 2: because everyone can vote on Album of the Year. And
Speaker 2: what happens is now the disparity in how many voters
Speaker 2: are black, are Spanish, are of color that really really
Speaker 2: listened to urban music.
Speaker 1: It's an imbalance. It's an imbalance. Well, there was a
Speaker 1: greater imbalance, it was absolute greater in balance before Harvey
Speaker 1: came in.
Speaker 2: Yes, yeah, I want to say it went from like
Speaker 2: eight percent, yeah, to twenty eight percent. And he's come
Speaker 2: in and tried to since he's been the chairman chairman
Speaker 2: to encourage more of us. Hey, man, get involved because
Speaker 2: this is a voting process.
Speaker 1: No, I mean, I listen. I had to conversations with
Speaker 1: Harvey and.
Speaker 2: With Alicia when Melisia was still at the Grammys, and
Speaker 2: how adamant they were about more urban membership, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, and really going out there and advocating
Speaker 2: for it and just even calling me like Jay. You know,
Speaker 2: since you're a member, you can get to people, you
Speaker 2: can give invitations and the members and you know what
Speaker 2: I mean, And if you have enough, I don't know.
Speaker 2: The exact thing is, you have to have certain a
Speaker 2: certain criteria to be It's either be on an album
Speaker 2: or it's not. Only even think it has to be
Speaker 2: a Grammy nominated album, but I think you just have
Speaker 2: to prove that you actually work in the music business
Speaker 2: and can join theirs, be a and be a voting member.
Speaker 2: And even for me, I've I've been an advocate over
Speaker 2: the last few years of just telling people like yo, bro,
Speaker 2: you got to join, you got to find out you
Speaker 2: got to, you know, go go to the website, go,
Speaker 2: you know, go to the Recording that academ your website
Speaker 2: and try to figure out how to become a voting member,
Speaker 2: because obviously, when you're voting on these type of awards,
Speaker 2: if the numbers are like this, it's less.
Speaker 1: Like that we really have a real chance.
Speaker 2: Even when we have albums that should be listen that
Speaker 2: should be album of the Year.
Speaker 1: I will say this, Beyonce should have at least two
Speaker 1: albums of the Year.
Speaker 2: I agree dangerously in Love and Lemonade at least at
Speaker 2: least at the least at the least.
Speaker 1: And I understand I understand jay Z's pain in his speech,
Speaker 1: but I also felt like, if I'm being honest, you know,
Speaker 1: I guess you're gonna articulate it however you feel. You know,
Speaker 1: what's on your heart is, You're gonna drop it how
Speaker 1: you feel it is what it is. But it was
Speaker 1: I felt like Doctor Dre is standing there. This is
Speaker 1: a Black Grammy, and we are giving you the Doctor
Speaker 1: Dre Award for all the work that you've done, you know,
Speaker 1: to speak everything that goes along with that, I don't
Speaker 1: I don't know if if within that within the speech
Speaker 1: or you know, with within him advocating, uh for the wife.
Speaker 1: I don't know if I ever heard the thank you
Speaker 1: in a sense for getting that type of award, a
Speaker 1: doctor Dre award. I feel like him, him feeling that
Speaker 1: the wife had been slighted kind of kind of stole
Speaker 1: the moment of what that award was about.
Speaker 2: You heard Frank Lucas, you know you heard Frank Lucas.
Speaker 2: You heard Denzel Washington. What does Zel Washington say?
Speaker 1: What do you say? What does it Washington say? Come on,
Speaker 1: come on, come on, come on. De Zel Junior Jr.
Speaker 1: What do you say he said a bunch of stuff
Speaker 1: you got about his wife? What did Denzel say about
Speaker 1: his wife in that movie? What you say they tried
Speaker 1: to kill my wife when it's about your wife? Listen, listen,
Speaker 1: the gloves are off. I understand, I understand. I'm not
Speaker 1: saying I don't understand. We gotta protect our women. We
Speaker 1: gotta protect our women. But it also had a double effect.
Speaker 1: Right as he was as he's protecting her, he's it
Speaker 1: felt like he was also killing the the weight of
Speaker 1: everybody else's award, because it's almost like these awards ain't
Speaker 1: ship kind of vibe, okay, which is what I kind
Speaker 1: of got. So we also go back to a man
Speaker 1: who you know, had to watch his genre of music
Speaker 1: not get televised Grammys. I'm so in his wet.
Speaker 2: We gotta take we gotta take into account the lead
Speaker 2: up of all these things. Like you said, I boycotted,
Speaker 2: but I still watched it. It wasn't a great boycott, right,
Speaker 2: but yeah, yeah, right, Like so this is a build up,
Speaker 2: This is a This isn't just I made this decision tonight.
Speaker 2: This is hey, man, this happened. Look what happened with
Speaker 2: Will Smith? Look what happened? You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: Like, and my question to you is this killing Mike
Speaker 1: his award? We had to find out through texts. I
Speaker 1: agree with you still, So my my question to you
Speaker 1: is this, is that a conversation that should be had
Speaker 1: with the the governing body of the Grammys. Is that
Speaker 1: a conversation where you say, hey, I like to sit
Speaker 1: down with you guys and try to understand X, Y
Speaker 1: and Z and and and really you know, and get
Speaker 1: to the bottom of what I feel is wrong with
Speaker 1: this system, Right, I mean that that's definitely a way
Speaker 1: to go about it, or is it? You know, I'm
Speaker 1: just looking at the weight of the award. I'm such
Speaker 1: a big Doctor Dre fan that if anybody's giving me
Speaker 1: Doctor Dre anything, right, like, I thank you to doctor
Speaker 1: Dre and for the for what the weight of this weight,
Speaker 1: the weight of this award means to have this given
Speaker 1: to me based on.
Speaker 2: He didn't say it the way you just said it,
Speaker 2: but he did shout him out. He did shout out
Speaker 2: Dre snoop. And you know what I'm saying, like he
Speaker 2: did he did. He just said the way you just
Speaker 2: said it.
Speaker 1: Did you did you feel it? Though? Because what do
Speaker 1: we you know me? I'm like, listen.
Speaker 2: If I'm jay Z, I'm a billion strong and I
Speaker 2: got forty seven thousand grammys at the house. I want
Speaker 2: to know why there's not an hour of a year
Speaker 2: one up on the map.
Speaker 1: But think about where you're able to speak from at
Speaker 1: a billion dollars forty eight grammys at the house, right right,
Speaker 1: right right. But it's nothing more powerful to getting upon
Speaker 1: that you put in front of all the people and
Speaker 1: saying it, I get it, I get it. That's what
Speaker 1: I'm say. It's two parts. It's it is you gotta
Speaker 1: protect your speak up for you, There's no doubt about that.
Speaker 1: But it's also it's also it's also going to come
Speaker 1: at the expense of a few things. And I think
Speaker 1: it was maybe at the expense of the weight of
Speaker 1: the type of award he was receiving from doctor Dre
Speaker 1: and at the expense like even I'll even throw I'll
Speaker 1: even throw Miley Cyrus in there where it felt like
Speaker 1: a piece of her. Was like, I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: a grammy, and you know whatever. You guys are excited, Okay, good, fine,
Speaker 1: And I'm like, we have Victoria Monet winning three. She
Speaker 1: worked for that, and she Victorian one worked for that,
Speaker 1: like hard, So it's just it's just a grammy. You
Speaker 1: guys can be excited. I'm not. And I get that
Speaker 1: some people may feel that way. But when you blanket
Speaker 1: it like that in front of everybody, now it starts
Speaker 1: to you know, matriculate down to everybody. Should I not
Speaker 1: be excited, but.
Speaker 2: Think that some people are just disruptors too. Drake is
Speaker 2: a disruptor because Drake pretty much not even pretty much.
Speaker 1: He said he uses his as a doorstop. He did
Speaker 1: you know what.
Speaker 2: I'm saying on record on Big Records you know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying. So it's like and I'm just like, do
Speaker 2: you do both? Do you accept the award and say yeah?
Speaker 1: And here's another doorstopper, God bless you what you show up?
Speaker 1: If you fly, you pay a lot of money to
Speaker 1: get here. If that's how you feel to come on
Speaker 1: the award show to get the award that the voter,
Speaker 1: that these people everybody stands is different and just to
Speaker 1: say yeah, another door, another sippy cup, another yeah. And
Speaker 1: the other part is or if it's that to you,
Speaker 1: why show up?
Speaker 2: Because sometime you want to slap people with it, and
Speaker 2: sometimes you know what I mean, sometime you want to
Speaker 2: go and drink your Hennessy out of it, or you'll
Speaker 2: do say because you have your own liquor, and you
Speaker 2: know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Sometimes you listen on the other side of that, What
Speaker 1: does that mean to those young those young producers, as songwriters,
Speaker 1: singers and everybody else coming up? Who are here's a question, right,
Speaker 1: if you don't believe in Santa Claus, right, I don't,
Speaker 1: you're gonna be over somebody house that's celebrating Christmas and
Speaker 1: getting their kids, helping their kids baked cookies for Santa
Speaker 1: coming and the reindeer and leaving milk out and all
Speaker 1: that stuff, and say, man, what the fuck y'all doing
Speaker 1: the No goddamn Santa Claus and this motherfucker man they
Speaker 1: bought all that motherfucking toys. Peel that shit off, man,
Speaker 1: Ain't nobody are you gonna do that? Because I've definitely
Speaker 1: done some wild ship when it comes to Santa in
Speaker 1: my black household. These gets us from Daddy Nigga bought this,
Speaker 1: surely me, that's who who?
Speaker 2: So yes, I felt like it had, But I also
Speaker 2: do I also don't think which I haven't won a
Speaker 2: Grammy and I want to. I I also don't think
Speaker 2: it cheapens when I win. Mind, well, I know the
Speaker 2: work I gotta do, and I feel like at one
Speaker 2: point I'm gonna have my speech. Right, it doesn't cheapen
Speaker 2: my Grammy at all. That one man drinks whatever he
Speaker 2: drinks out of it, and another man used it as
Speaker 2: a doorstop, and another young lady says, hey, I only
Speaker 2: came here to see Mariah like that don't mean nothing
Speaker 2: to me about that Grammy that I'm going to win, right.
Speaker 1: It's just is what it is, you know, And is
Speaker 1: it a flawed system. It is. I believe that it's
Speaker 1: a flaw system.
Speaker 2: But I also believe that's a part of why our
Speaker 2: community has to get more involved.
Speaker 1: Absolutely in the system, so we have somebody in the
Speaker 1: system who's from our community trying to get us in
Speaker 1: so we can balance it out.
Speaker 2: I'm not even telling it that we need to get
Speaker 2: in so we can be you know, seventy two percent
Speaker 2: to their twenty eight. No, I'm saying, let's figure even
Speaker 2: if it's fifty to fifty and its scales or even which.
Speaker 1: Just life ain't like that, but let's just get in.
Speaker 2: Let's get in so then you can really have an
Speaker 2: opinion on it and say how you feel. Because I'm
Speaker 2: a voting member, so I say how I feel, I
Speaker 2: say what I voted for. I say what I would
Speaker 2: have voted for if I could have gotten into multiple categories.
Speaker 2: But you know, the whole thing now is you get
Speaker 2: your categories that you can vote into the but the big.
Speaker 1: Categories everybody can weigh in on.
Speaker 2: Everybody can weigh in on that. And as another big
Speaker 2: category that I want to shout out and I cannot
Speaker 2: forget song Writer of the Year, my god t Ron.
Speaker 1: My brother, I just talked to him too. I said, man,
Speaker 1: where's my records at? We was down in Jacksonville. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I said, what are my songs at? He said, yeah,
Speaker 1: we gotta get in there and just you know, we
Speaker 1: do something together. I said, no, I just want songs.
Speaker 1: I want your song. Your songs, man, man, and I'm
Speaker 1: gonna tell you what I did, your song I did. Yeah.
Speaker 2: First, I congratulated him, put him you know, on the story.
Speaker 2: I called that man multiple times. He hit me, bro,
Speaker 2: thank you Broever, no, no, no, no, no. I'm gonna call
Speaker 2: you again because I need you to hear my voice
Speaker 2: telling you congratulations.
Speaker 1: You did it. I love you, brother, I'm proud of you.
Speaker 1: Give mm hmmm. I had to though.
Speaker 2: It was like Nigga, me and him play phone tag
Speaker 2: for about a day and a half and we finally
Speaker 2: got on the line.
Speaker 1: He sent me a voice no further cool, cool, cool, cool.
Speaker 2: I'm going to call you again because I know you're busy,
Speaker 2: because Nigga, for this, you got to get that full congratulations. Bro,
Speaker 2: you got to hear me tell it to you and
Speaker 2: don't disappear. You know what, he ain't gonna different, He different,
Speaker 2: He different. So that's why even him winning.
Speaker 1: He no, exactly, exactly, one of everybody proud. It's one
Speaker 1: of us up there. I don't know what nigga I
Speaker 1: was mad about. T Ron was all. We all took
Speaker 1: a shot to that one. Yeah, yeah, one of our guys.
Speaker 2: And then we'll get to best Rap Album. You want
Speaker 2: to go to rap album, Let's let me because because
Speaker 2: that was a thing. That was a thing, killing Mike
Speaker 2: winning and killing Mike being mid to late forties winning
Speaker 2: Best Rap Album, which is considered you know, a young
Speaker 2: man sport.
Speaker 1: If you listen to that album, that man is wrapping
Speaker 1: his ass off. If you didn't understand it when he
Speaker 1: got the award, I pray you win and did your research,
Speaker 1: research to your research. I pray you went and listened
Speaker 1: to that body of work. You know her Lily won
Speaker 1: another Grammy being on that album. Right. I don't like Carolin.
Speaker 1: It's the greatest bro. He's the great always somewhere, so
Speaker 1: you just get always some we're doing something killer Mike
Speaker 1: his album. Mm hmm. When I lift weights, killing Mike's album,
Speaker 1: I break my gym. Mhmm, my gym breaks because he
Speaker 1: put me in a mold. What what? And when I
Speaker 1: say he he say, he say, because I was rapping
Speaker 1: my ass off. He on there wrapping his ass off.
Speaker 1: I don't know what y'all thought. This ain't no rapid rap.
Speaker 1: Nigga say, this ain't no rapit rap that nigga spitting.
Speaker 1: This ain't no rapidy rap. This ain't no vibe, This
Speaker 1: ain't no way.
Speaker 2: He took his time. He took his time, real songwriting,
Speaker 2: real songwriting.
Speaker 1: This is art. Yeah, this is a student of the game. Yeah, graduating.
Speaker 1: Thing is bachelor's, that is masters, and then it's PhD.
Speaker 1: This is that certified monster. If you you don't get that, man,
Speaker 1: sp it's another rap Grammy. I want to.
Speaker 2: I want to shout out best melodic rap performance.
Speaker 1: Who got that? Won by Little Dirk and j Cole
Speaker 1: all my life? You know why I like that? You
Speaker 1: know why I like that because I like that for Dirk.
Speaker 1: I love that for Dirk. I like that for him
Speaker 1: because of the message in that record. Yes, I like
Speaker 1: him for winning for that that record, for that record, Yes,
Speaker 1: for wanting to be something different, something wanting to be better,
Speaker 1: to want to better himself.
Speaker 2: And so I spoke about this and in my in
Speaker 2: my episode. Obviously you know it was a moment where
Speaker 2: I spoke about me helping to discover Chief Keef. Little
Speaker 2: Dirk was signed after that discovery to dev jam no
Speaker 2: Id signed him right and he had his major record deal.
Speaker 2: Nothing really came of it. They you know, however it
Speaker 2: works out at labels. Little Dirt could have went away,
Speaker 2: stayed at it, stayed at it when Independent stayed on
Speaker 2: his grind, the mixtapes went crazy. Built all that up
Speaker 2: ends up doing the deal with Alamo with Todd, and
Speaker 2: then Juliet came over talk to talk and what they've
Speaker 2: built and going after it and even just even being
Speaker 2: in a situation where somebody will submit the label will
Speaker 2: submit a record for because we didn't talk about that part,
Speaker 2: like the submission of records labels have to your label
Speaker 2: has to submit your records too, or you have to
Speaker 2: see somebody in your team that's to submit your records.
Speaker 2: And there's a campaign that's involved with people, the voting
Speaker 2: members knowing you have this music out so that you
Speaker 2: even get the nomination. So shout out to Alamo Records,
Speaker 2: Shout out to Juliet for having you know, the the
Speaker 2: for foreseeing it and having a you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: her mind and in that place to say.
Speaker 1: You know what, this should be submitted, this should.
Speaker 2: Be we should go after this Grammy Award winning record,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean. And and hey, derk, it's
Speaker 2: gonna be some some work that gotta get done because
Speaker 2: everybody don't just know you.
Speaker 1: Because that's the other space too.
Speaker 2: Let's talk about that where bro, you have to it's
Speaker 2: like anything, it's like running for office.
Speaker 1: No, it's not like running right, Like, you gotta go
Speaker 1: campaign your records just to get the nomination because there
Speaker 1: are there are there are divisions, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: There are territories. You know what I'm saying. It's East Coast,
Speaker 1: there's West Coast, it's down south. And there are different
Speaker 1: people that are running these different sector sections and sectors
Speaker 1: of the different R and B I mean the different
Speaker 1: Grammy regions. Yeah, that's the word. And so it would
Speaker 1: behoove you, yes to go in campaign and campaign and
Speaker 1: see all those people just to raise your hand say
Speaker 1: hey guys, I got some cool stuff out managed want
Speaker 1: to make sure it's on your radar. That's simple. And
Speaker 1: then another another recipe that is too. When you're making
Speaker 1: these albums, sit with all the people you're making the
Speaker 1: album with, and make.
Speaker 2: Sure they're voting members voting, because you can vote for
Speaker 2: yourself and if you know, especially in urban music, is
Speaker 2: a reason why they've been on this whole thing where
Speaker 2: they don't want to give out all those multiple Grammys
Speaker 2: to all these you know, writers and producers that are
Speaker 2: on R and B Album of the Year or which
Speaker 2: everyone that plays a part should get her damn grand
Speaker 2: Everybody should get a Grammy. If you're if you win,
Speaker 2: you should get a Grammy. You should actually get the hardware, right,
Speaker 2: So get everybody that's it. If it's thirty people on
Speaker 2: this album, sit them down. That's thirty votes.
Speaker 1: It's thirty votes every single person. Hope y'all listening, because
Speaker 1: this is not rocket science.
Speaker 2: No, no, y'all all went to school, you remember running
Speaker 2: for class president.
Speaker 1: Get some candy, niggas. Tell him you're going to try
Speaker 1: to figure out how to extend recess longer. Lunch longer,
Speaker 1: lunch with the people. That's really what that shit is, though,
Speaker 1: Like you gotta get to it. Yeah, you gotta get
Speaker 1: to it.
Speaker 2: The marketing doesn't stop, the promotion doesn't stop. It's the
Speaker 2: same thing. We've said this before when Tyler Creator. He
Speaker 2: has the viral clip that talks about how you gonna
Speaker 2: put out an album and only promoted for the first week,
Speaker 2: talk about it. I've been promoting this album for the
Speaker 2: last two.
Speaker 1: Years, and I'm not gonna stop keep promoting.
Speaker 2: I mean, I got three songs out right now, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Thank me for that before the
Speaker 2: streets the day after. I'm gonna keep promoting them songs,
Speaker 2: and I'm gonna put out some more songs and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna keep promoting those for the album that's coming.
Speaker 1: Conversations with women and this candle conversation is available. Who
Speaker 1: you're talking to? Contrast what women with the women because
Speaker 1: you know what I mean, because the man you talk
Speaker 1: one woman the women. Conversations with women, you know what
Speaker 1: I mean. Okay, it's a round table. You want your
Speaker 1: house to smell like the Valentine. Talk to him. Get
Speaker 1: the candle. You know this is this is one hundred
Speaker 1: percent marble. Yeah not not you know not not. This
Speaker 1: ain't no hotel smell you hear this? That mean it's strong. Listen,
Speaker 1: that's what go down with this candle. You should hear
Speaker 1: that comes with the grammy. You know what I mean
Speaker 1: and play and play slow play whim we yeah, you
Speaker 1: know we play play before the streets and after you
Speaker 1: finished play. Thank me for that. Thank me for that.
Speaker 4: On the day after because I I taught the patience
Speaker 4: totally went and say ship, turn it up.
Speaker 1: I'm trying to just be still. So yeah, that's that's
Speaker 1: the Grammys. Shout out to uh Tyler one for Water too.
Speaker 1: You know, I love that record. I love that record.
Speaker 1: I was with Shaka last night was the last night, yeah,
Speaker 1: and we were at the club at this week. We're
Speaker 1: at this dinner spot. I can't call it by name,
Speaker 1: and then he said, you need to come upstairs and
Speaker 1: hear this. And it's the style of music that water
Speaker 1: Water is. I'm thinking Water is Afrobeat. It is not.
Speaker 1: I'm a piano. That's the sound A M A p
Speaker 1: I n O. I'm a I'm a piano, like I
Speaker 1: am a piano, I'm a A I am a well
Speaker 1: you know the kids, now that's how they say like
Speaker 1: I'm a piano. That's that's the style of the music.
Speaker 1: That's the style of music. It's a whole different thing, right,
Speaker 1: It's it's the nuance is slightly different, right, and we're upstairs.
Speaker 1: We go upstairs. It's a Tuesday. It's water wall mm hmm,
Speaker 1: it's dark, and this music is playing and they are
Speaker 1: going crazy and I'm like, he looking at this, I said,
Speaker 1: I need to know who's doing it. I need to
Speaker 1: know who's doing it, and I need it now because
Speaker 1: it's the it's it's now the new thing, it's now
Speaker 1: the next thing. And I never I didn't understand what
Speaker 1: he was saying until he took until he said, come
Speaker 1: upstairs and hear this. I was like, I need it.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. It is incredible, man. And her song is
Speaker 1: That's why her song is what it is to me.
Speaker 1: That's why it feels like that to me, because you
Speaker 1: know it's it's, it's it's it falls in line with that.
Speaker 1: I'm a piano whatever that thing is, I need it.
Speaker 1: I gotta be involved. Let's so, let's let's touch on
Speaker 1: whenever you're going, bro, Bro, we gotta go to super Bowl. Bro.
Speaker 1: You're going, Bro, we gotta go to Super Bowl Bro.
Speaker 1: R and B. It was an R and B halftime show.
Speaker 2: Before we get to the halftime show, before we get
Speaker 2: to the have time show, Let's start with to do
Speaker 2: our first. Let's let's let's let's go in in order.
Speaker 2: All right, let's go in order to come on baby,
Speaker 2: because it was a big night. It was a you
Speaker 2: know what I mean, it.
Speaker 1: Was a du walk the night before. Shout out my garden.
Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, it was a you feel me, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. Oh ag entertainment. Yeah yeah. Shout out
Speaker 1: to my brothers, Neo Mario, Yeah, myself myself. Shout out
Speaker 1: to me. Shout out to me. Uh, your niggas had
Speaker 1: a code event. We were in the theater at the Saharah.
Speaker 1: Wall to wall, wall to wall.
Speaker 2: Yeah, y'all look like zoo animals up there. I had
Speaker 2: to walk to the back couple of times.
Speaker 1: I'm like, you know what, this feels a little weird,
Speaker 1: but you know, suggressive people were saying in the comments,
Speaker 1: all these niggas, don't say, as a guy, it's our tables.
Speaker 1: It wasn't just random people. Our tables were on stage.
Speaker 1: That's what the people were on stage behind me. I
Speaker 1: was trying to figure out a way to pick my
Speaker 1: my couch up and put it behind the curtain so
Speaker 1: I could really just have me a good time back there.
Speaker 1: I know you were I was like, you can't leave
Speaker 1: it like this, man, I'll be back. Let's say what
Speaker 1: you do man, Just you know, it's such a dope moment.
Speaker 1: And I think, you know, the beauty of that moment
Speaker 1: to me was, you know, shout out to DJ Infamous,
Speaker 1: my guy, and shout out to DJ A Fly guy,
Speaker 1: and everybody was just trying to figure out how it
Speaker 1: was going to go down. And I was like, bro,
Speaker 1: we just go. We just go song for song, everybody
Speaker 1: just do a song, man, let's just kill who go first,
Speaker 1: who last? That's just And everybody looked at me was
Speaker 1: like hell yeah that was and then Infamous was like,
Speaker 1: but do this though, what's it? I like your style?
Speaker 1: I like your style and and it just turned in too.
Speaker 1: It turned into a cool, really cool R and B celebration. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and the.
Speaker 2: People on the internet wanted to know why you were
Speaker 2: looking at Neo while he was singing like that while he.
Speaker 1: Was like he was cooking.
Speaker 2: And that's why I say that to you, because what
Speaker 2: people don't realize about this man is that he is
Speaker 2: a celebrator of talent. Yes, all things, like you said,
Speaker 2: all things. So if you get busy that nigga t
Speaker 2: ain't gonna down in and it may look funny to
Speaker 2: you on the internet because you're not there, and that
Speaker 2: whole thing.
Speaker 1: I've seen it.
Speaker 2: You know, you don't mean I be reading the comments.
Speaker 2: I'm like, they really don't get it.
Speaker 1: That's people who ain't who've never been looked at like
Speaker 1: that before. Because when when if you've ever done something great,
Speaker 1: somebody's looked at you like nigga, nigga. They didn't say
Speaker 1: the face said it right right, you know. To see
Speaker 1: Usher sing R and B music at the halftime of
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl, Yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Really it was an Usher concert and a football game
Speaker 2: was going on.
Speaker 1: Let's keep it a buck, Let's keep it a thousand.
Speaker 1: Usher was having a show and they don't play some football,
Speaker 1: and they let him play some football. Yeah, hm hmm, yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Let's get into it. Let's get into it. Let's get
Speaker 1: into it. Let's get into it. Like here's what I'll say.
Speaker 1: I have wishes when it's after the fact. Everybody always
Speaker 1: has after the fact brilliance. Right, I would have. But
Speaker 1: he didn't miss in in his execution of that show
Speaker 1: from top to bottom something you pointed out earlier. He
Speaker 1: sang the whole thing live live. Let's start that.
Speaker 2: And I don't know about nobody else, right, And I'm
Speaker 2: not gonna claim to know every single Super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Show, halftime show. I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but I know singing at the super
Speaker 2: Bowl live live TV and singing, singing cut up pieces
Speaker 2: of your songs. You're not even going with muscle memory.
Speaker 1: You're not even in United You can't control rhythm, you
Speaker 1: can't go on cruise control, you can't jump into a rhythm.
Speaker 1: Especially now think about this. He has a residency, yes,
Speaker 1: where he gets into a rhythm with all of these songs,
Speaker 1: takes a minute to minute and a half, two minutes
Speaker 1: in we cruising. Now, now I'm into none of that.
Speaker 2: These because he's doing twenty thirty years of music in
Speaker 2: twelve and a half thirteen minutes.
Speaker 1: Fifteen, you get fifteen, Yes, you can get fifteen, You
Speaker 1: get fifteen. No, Usher got fifty, you got fifteen, Okay,
Speaker 1: you get twelve. Oh, Usher got fifteen. Okay, he came
Speaker 1: up with the extent. Okay, come all right, fifteen minutes,
Speaker 1: all those hits and he's and listen and he's still
Speaker 1: missed some Yeah, yeah, he didn't sing climax, right, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I didn't think about that. I needed that. Wow, I
Speaker 1: didn't even think about that. That's my only wish I want.
Speaker 2: I just want to climax, you know me, I won't
Speaker 2: can handle it at the super Bowl.
Speaker 1: Some seduction siculous you know what I'm saying there All
Speaker 1: it's all magic, yes, magic, but you know it gives people. Now.
Speaker 1: For me, it's like that was just a preview if
Speaker 1: you never made it to Vegas, right, that's just that's
Speaker 1: just a preview of what this world tour is going
Speaker 1: to be.
Speaker 5: Like.
Speaker 1: That's just a small crazy crazy already sold out. You know.
Speaker 2: The fact that the fact that he's saying live it
Speaker 2: was I felt like it was a statement for sure,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean? Because and and in the
Speaker 2: age of everybody attempting to sound perfect through all of
Speaker 2: the studio ship. Now, the other thing that happens when
Speaker 2: you when your attempt to sound perfect, is that you
Speaker 2: lose feeling. You lose feeling. You need the crack every
Speaker 2: now and then you need you know what I'm saying, like,
Speaker 2: you need to note that's off for people to really
Speaker 2: feel what you're doing. And that's why you know, to me,
Speaker 2: I think that when people talk about why music isn't
Speaker 2: the same anymore.
Speaker 1: A big part of that.
Speaker 2: Is all of the things in the in the computer
Speaker 2: that make you sound so much better. You know what
Speaker 2: I mean, everybody wants to sound like a computer. Usher
Speaker 2: was like, no, no, no, no, no, I'm human. I'm human,
Speaker 2: Alicia Keys, I'm human. I'm human, Like these vocals are
Speaker 2: human vocals.
Speaker 1: Listen, we heard Keys crack at the beginning. So what
Speaker 1: that's called singing? That's singing live, That's what that's called.
Speaker 1: So what it's fucking Alicia Keys? Talk to some respect
Speaker 1: on her. Yeah, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: You get up in front of millions and two.
Speaker 1: Hundred million people, they say all together, watch it.
Speaker 2: If they call you, they probably won't.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: But and I'm not and I'm not saying that on
Speaker 2: some inner defense of No.
Speaker 1: This is what singing is. Live.
Speaker 2: Singing is about emotion, and sometimes it's about mistakes.
Speaker 1: Imperfections, the beauty and those imperfections. I watched listen, I
Speaker 1: watched Mary J. Blige were going online. Not a perfect singer.
Speaker 1: But I dare you to follow it. You can't.
Speaker 2: I dare you to try one of the greatest singers
Speaker 2: of all times, Stevie Wonder, he don't hit every single note.
Speaker 1: One of the greatest living are dead.
Speaker 2: Of all time all times. He does not hit every
Speaker 2: single note. So for me to watch Usher say, Okay,
Speaker 2: you know why I get this opportunity. I'm about to
Speaker 2: give them these vocals and I respect it.
Speaker 1: And I'm ana dance and I'm a dance and I'm
Speaker 1: a roller skate and I'm an outfit change and I'm
Speaker 1: an outfit change, and I'm gonna give them all this
Speaker 1: army ship because you know what, taking my motherfucking shirt off. Listen.
Speaker 1: You know they talked about you know what I mean,
Speaker 1: the motherfucker titty pop leears ago both yeah, both out,
Speaker 1: both titties out. You know, listen, if you don't do
Speaker 1: this R and B thing, you're gonna have to take
Speaker 1: your shirt off. I've been trying to tell you fools
Speaker 1: for a long time. There's a certain kind of shape,
Speaker 1: certain kind of conditions. Yeah, you got to be in
Speaker 1: for a woman to believe that you are even capable
Speaker 1: of the things you're singing about. And Usher just confirmed
Speaker 1: that at the Super Bowl shirt off that was open
Speaker 1: Man said, doors, open bank. You should You should have
Speaker 1: seen them women in the all they lost it. They
Speaker 1: lost it as they should. That's they're supposed to do
Speaker 1: at an R and B show. M Honey, would you
Speaker 1: look at that man's got a shirt on? Yeah? Show
Speaker 1: show what the women was looking like in the uh
Speaker 1: the motherfucking boxes in the in the luxury box.
Speaker 5: We definitely need a shot panning when he had when
Speaker 5: he took his shirt on all the women, and we
Speaker 5: need to find a few faces because I promise you
Speaker 5: the energy got real real R and B.
Speaker 1: Shout out to Usher for his team killing that ship.
Speaker 1: Shout out, yeah, yeah, shout out to them for killing
Speaker 1: that ship. Man. Shout out to our brothers and Villa brothers.
Speaker 1: I did it. Man, Hey listen. Shout out to a
Speaker 1: little John, little job. I want to fly outfit it
Speaker 1: in shape, shout out to. Shout out to our brother
Speaker 1: Jermaine du Prix with the pearly sock. Shout out to
Speaker 1: little socks. You know what I'm saying. Shout out to listen,
Speaker 1: I know what the socks say. Like the writing, it
Speaker 1: was the loafer with the sock and the short that made.
Speaker 2: You you don't hey, listen, but listen. But here's the
Speaker 2: other thing. This is what I'm going to say. If
Speaker 2: you're going to show up, you gotta show out. Everybody
Speaker 2: ain't gonna respect your show out every time. But I'm
Speaker 2: going to leave an impression when I get there.
Speaker 1: Better be a conversation the next day, Jermaine, The Prix
Speaker 1: is a conversation. Conversation is a conversations. It's right now,
Speaker 1: it's the conversation. What right now, right now to this day, memes, everything, everything. Listen,
Speaker 1: if they not talking about you, you didn't do what
Speaker 1: you was supposed to do. And Jermaine was only on
Speaker 1: stage for thirty seconds, y'all know what this is got
Speaker 1: a billion impressions. Listen. I told him on this page.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. I said, my dog wore
Speaker 1: the pearly socks. You definitely get into the pearly gates
Speaker 1: them go. You know what I mean, them gonna get
Speaker 1: you into Heaven. Come on now.
Speaker 2: But they came out shout out to her, shout out
Speaker 2: to her, shouts at the bear, and she represented very well.
Speaker 1: Her is just magnificent. But she got her.
Speaker 2: She came out with her prince vibe too. She was like,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean, This guitar. I'm gonna give
Speaker 2: him the Prince looks.
Speaker 1: She's just magnificent. Yeah, and she saw she's not even
Speaker 1: on that song. Shout out to Usher for that phone call.
Speaker 1: Seeing her on that stage with him was just like
Speaker 1: that was that was incredible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, incredible proback.
Speaker 1: I want to say this, and in big ass boots.
Speaker 1: They don't give Luda, ah nah, they don't the top
Speaker 1: five top ten credit. He deserves Luda. Chris will outrap
Speaker 1: a lot of people in your top ten will out
Speaker 1: rap that motherfucker can rap. And when he gets on
Speaker 1: stage and starts delivering, no, let me say something now,
Speaker 1: he's electric. When Lula walked on that stage and I
Speaker 1: say that stadium went crazy, I think he knows he's
Speaker 1: a superstar, but that stadium let him know he was
Speaker 1: a superstar. Yeah, they let him know for sure. He
Speaker 1: went he went crazy, He went grace Yeah, and everything
Speaker 1: that like I was want to say out everything I
Speaker 1: saw him doing that weekend, everything he was tagged on
Speaker 1: every time. He he's going crazy like Luda. I don't
Speaker 1: know what ludis. I don't know what was going through
Speaker 1: right now, but he's he's he's really having a moment
Speaker 1: right now, I don't know what's going on, you know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, skin glowing and fro is picked out nice,
Speaker 1: like it's a good time for loader. Right now. It's
Speaker 1: time for a record load. It's definitely time for it's
Speaker 1: time for a record. It's time for a record and
Speaker 1: if you need somebody to sing on it, Like I'm
Speaker 1: not saying, I know you got a usher like usher,
Speaker 1: you know that's your guy. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: You got a guy you just super all together? You know,
Speaker 1: I know he'll sing on it too.
Speaker 2: But to the genius himself, what I am? What I
Speaker 2: am came through with my fucking helmet on. That's kind
Speaker 2: of like a helmet kind of glass shade.
Speaker 1: It's kind of a glassy helmet. Niggas a superstar, Bro.
Speaker 1: You never he's not from this planet. No, No, you
Speaker 1: see the car he's been driving around in. Have you
Speaker 1: looked on this page? He's not. He made it. He made.
Speaker 1: He's not from this car. He made and he can
Speaker 1: make beat in it. He turned left. It's like, well,
Speaker 1: I am, bro, shout out to what I am who
Speaker 1: I sat next to at my boy DJ's wedding and
Speaker 1: he is the most interesting, fun guy, genius, genius. I
Speaker 1: probably ever met genius. It's never a dult moment, never
Speaker 1: a dull moment. It's always what what because he said
Speaker 1: whatever's on his mind too, And then the way he
Speaker 1: breaks it down to you is like what it ain't
Speaker 1: look at you? I hate that. That makes sense? I
Speaker 1: hate that. Will I hate it, and will if you
Speaker 1: if you you know, if you have, send me some
Speaker 1: tracks too, I love that. Come on, we've been supposed
Speaker 1: to work together for a long time. So just throwing
Speaker 1: that back out there. Shout out, listen, shout out to
Speaker 1: the numptials, HM, shout out to locking it in. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: on my biggest night. Let me do something even bigger.
Speaker 1: Let me lock in, lock this woman in. Let her
Speaker 1: know where we're at. That should be out here, he liketing.
Speaker 1: I mean married, where I stand? Let me know you,
Speaker 1: Let me let you know where I stand with all
Speaker 1: of this something getting Yeah, you matter the most. I
Speaker 1: respect it, I respect it, I respect it. And it
Speaker 1: was flawed. So let's talk about this dumb ass football game. Now.
Speaker 1: I don't want you to do I don't want you
Speaker 1: to have to do that. Man. I think I think
Speaker 1: you should just you know, let it burn, I think
Speaker 1: because and then they fired the defensive coordinator. I'm not
Speaker 1: I don't want to make it a racial thing.
Speaker 2: So so I'm going to tell you my experience now
Speaker 2: because we talked, we talked about yours and you know
Speaker 2: what I mean.
Speaker 1: So m hm.
Speaker 2: There was a moment that I went to Vegas and
Speaker 2: I was like, Okay, I'm getting to this game. And
Speaker 2: then I had a moment where I said to myself,
Speaker 2: maybe I shouldn't go to the game because the last
Speaker 2: time I went to the game, we lost. We were
Speaker 2: there together, we were there, right, So I'm thinking to
Speaker 2: my because I will keep it funky. When we played Detroit,
Speaker 2: the Detroit Lions, I watched the whole first half they
Speaker 2: kicking our ass.
Speaker 1: And then I said, I'm turning off the TV.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, And I literally watched the game through the
Speaker 2: notes on my phone when you like reading, you know,
Speaker 2: as it's going on, oh ship on the twelve. I
Speaker 2: watched the game that way and we won. So I
Speaker 2: am a bit of a superstitious guy. I'm not gonna go.
Speaker 2: So we have a great friend, our brother Marlin, who
Speaker 2: made it made it a happen for US, and I
Speaker 2: was able to go watch the game in the high roller.
Speaker 1: Ball room to top mm hm. You know what I
Speaker 1: mean of the Win Hotel. You know what I mean? Yeah,
Speaker 1: the only way.
Speaker 2: You even get in there is that you got a
Speaker 2: gamble certain amount of Yeah, I mean, this is a
Speaker 2: mother ship.
Speaker 1: That's the only way to do FACUS. Just let you
Speaker 1: know that. And you think he made sure I was
Speaker 1: in the building.
Speaker 2: The mistake I think I made as I wore this jersey.
Speaker 2: It's the same jersey I wore when we lost in Miami.
Speaker 1: You didn't. You didn't pick up on that when you
Speaker 1: put it. No, no, because I'm thinking, this is Prime time.
Speaker 1: Well you know, Prime just lost. Man, Now you tell
Speaker 1: me this ship. Now you mean he won, But see
Speaker 1: now you remind me he lost. He's a winner. When
Speaker 1: he played for US, he won. Yeah. Right, but it's
Speaker 1: ain't ninety four. But it's two thousand and four, right,
Speaker 1: this is this ninety four. You feel me? You don't
Speaker 1: feel me thirty years? You lost once in that jersey?
Speaker 1: I know, but I was thinking like the thirty though
Speaker 1: in Prime only won four games, I was thinking about
Speaker 1: the thirty. I know what you was thinking. Thirty years
Speaker 1: I know you have used up against a lot.
Speaker 2: This was all in my head, right, but I'm not
Speaker 2: thinking y'all lost in that jersey. You probably should have
Speaker 2: warn your Kaepernick because I got the Kaepernick too, which
Speaker 2: is a whole other conversation when I'm walking around in
Speaker 2: the Kaepernick right.
Speaker 1: But maybe just maybe just a polo. No, we're not
Speaker 1: wearing no polo because listen, I had and I had
Speaker 1: maybe and I had my forty nine er kids jacket on.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? It is limited that that
Speaker 1: that sounds more exciting than than picking a jersey from like, man,
Speaker 1: this is d I should have worked, but it missed
Speaker 1: the first time. So that's why you should have taken
Speaker 1: it off. You should have known that, Yeah, I should have.
Speaker 1: I should have.
Speaker 2: So I got all the phone calls before the Super Bowl.
Speaker 2: As soon as we got into Super Bowl, all my
Speaker 2: niggas can't shout out on my niggs can city because listen,
Speaker 2: y'all niggas made great music, great y'all got great barbecue,
Speaker 2: and y'all got a great fucking football team. I'm gonna
Speaker 2: keep it a buck. I'm not the nigga that hate
Speaker 2: on nobody's team.
Speaker 1: Y'all.
Speaker 2: Team is fucking great. Y'all might have the next goat
Speaker 2: at quarterback. If you win a couple of mo like
Speaker 2: he was, he three out of four.
Speaker 1: You have to go that tight End close to over Grunk,
Speaker 1: close to right they got. It's kind of yeah, they're
Speaker 1: very close. One more, they very close probably for both
Speaker 1: of ye know, my homes gotta do, like a little
Speaker 1: more more. But then then than what Kelsey gotta do. Yeah,
Speaker 1: Kelsey just gotta get. And then here's the other reason
Speaker 1: why you know, this is my opinion.
Speaker 2: This is my opinion. I just wish are tight End
Speaker 2: would have made that same relationship choice because I don't
Speaker 2: think the NFL was gonna let her lose. Y'all can
Speaker 2: say whatever y'all want. Y'all call me as many haters
Speaker 2: as you want to. But one thing I know, one
Speaker 2: thing I've done for a long time is business. I
Speaker 2: understand the money that's been made and that the money
Speaker 2: that's going to be made off of people wanting to
Speaker 2: see her have a celebration kiss with her boyfriend who
Speaker 2: just won.
Speaker 1: The super Bowl.
Speaker 2: Listen if you want to go and everything is googleable.
Speaker 2: It was really good for business, y'all. Y'all can go
Speaker 2: see how much more money the NFL than made since
Speaker 2: she's been part of the NFL.
Speaker 1: Be the NFL. It's uh, I'm not gonna argue with you,
Speaker 1: my friends.
Speaker 2: So when I got that phone call from all my
Speaker 2: homies from KC, I told everybody who called me about betting,
Speaker 2: I'm not betting against her.
Speaker 1: It's like, man, you crat that ain't got nothing to do.
Speaker 1: I said, listen, it's cool, but I'm not betting. That's
Speaker 1: what I said. Well, I said her. I wasn't betting
Speaker 1: against her for sure. I said, I'm not betting against
Speaker 1: Dais Swim. But a guy told me, Warrant said, you
Speaker 1: bet on that quarterback right there. You bet on the
Speaker 1: best quarterback on the field before the game started. He's
Speaker 1: the best quarterback on the field. He's the best quarterback
Speaker 1: in the NFL. So Flitch, he said, I'm not going
Speaker 1: against the best quarterback. Yeah, he's right there. That's who
Speaker 1: you bet on, because it's gonna come down there him,
Speaker 1: and it came down there, down now, and it came
Speaker 1: down there.
Speaker 2: I just want to know though, because the spread the
Speaker 2: over and under was forty seven point five. You know
Speaker 2: what the score ended up being forty seven. How y'all
Speaker 2: niggas knew that y'all was on point five? Point five
Speaker 2: don't even exist. Nigga can't score point five.
Speaker 1: I can't score point five. A nigga can't even score
Speaker 1: point five. They had the forty nine ers one and
Speaker 1: a half and the over and umber over and under
Speaker 1: forty seven five. That's just your niggas is who didn't
Speaker 1: how you nigga?
Speaker 2: Yeah ya just yeah, oh yeah, that's why I don't
Speaker 2: bet on sports listen. But great football team. But it's
Speaker 2: I'm saying all the funny ship and all the ship,
Speaker 2: it's cool. That's that's you know, that's just me speaking
Speaker 2: from being a true fan of my team. But the
Speaker 2: the real, the ultimate real is Kansasy is a great
Speaker 2: fucking football amazing team and y'all got great players on
Speaker 2: that team.
Speaker 1: And shout out to my brother Travis Kelsey. We have
Speaker 1: a you know where we're partners and oh yeah wine
Speaker 1: yeah yeah, the rewind team, shout out the Fat Show. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but you know, uh who else is on there with
Speaker 1: Tyson Beckford? Yeah? You don't know the rest? You can
Speaker 1: I do know the rest, you know, That's what do
Speaker 1: that's another one. DJ Kalli is there with us. You
Speaker 1: know what I'm saying. He got me and I have
Speaker 1: the best hair color for men. I have the dark.
Speaker 1: That's what you want. Rewind here. You don't want the
Speaker 1: charco no, no, no, you want you want the natural black.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. Tyson his is the same.
Speaker 1: But Tyson's mostly ball headed and old like that he was.
Speaker 1: He had this hot moment when he was ball head.
Speaker 1: Ain't handle her. I got hair, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So it's like, you want to go with the guy
Speaker 1: who actually has hair. Get the bit the box with
Speaker 1: my face on. There are more benefits to the box
Speaker 1: with my face on it. Get get paid once you
Speaker 1: get it. When you get his box balls to you
Speaker 1: don't want to get hit. Jesus, I've been watching too
Speaker 1: much of Cavin made. It is shout love y'all show.
Speaker 1: You had a pause. I love y'all show, Bro, And
Speaker 1: they got j Simpson on there, Bro and Mark Jackson
Speaker 1: like it's let us want to shout out. I gotta go.
Speaker 1: This is a good round. Shout out to Shout out
Speaker 1: to Mike Epps and Shannon Shark for uh talking like men.
Speaker 1: I just wanted to throw that out there. I just
Speaker 1: want to throw that out there because I know Mike Apps,
Speaker 1: thank you guys. Think you think he's a comedian? Ain't
Speaker 1: you funny? He is in his hometown, in his hometown. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm glad. Yeah, I'm glad they were able to you know,
Speaker 1: of course, ain't no punk, so we're not We're definitely
Speaker 1: not saying that, no, but they just came to understanding men.
Speaker 1: And I think that, you know, sometimes you just got
Speaker 1: to be mindful, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: That these are in all of this that's going on,
Speaker 2: it's all comedians. Comedians should be able to be funny,
Speaker 2: even if it hurts your feelings. Sometime if I go
Speaker 2: to a comedy show, I want to be like, oh
Speaker 2: and laugh.
Speaker 1: I don't want I think I think Joe, I think yes.
Speaker 1: But I also think that especially with Shannon being as
Speaker 1: old school as he is, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: And from that, you know, from the part of town
Speaker 1: that he's from, like you know that, and he's not
Speaker 1: a comedian, right that the whole you know, and I
Speaker 1: don't want to go too far into this, but that
Speaker 1: whole using gay to tear Black Ben down. It's like
Speaker 1: a that's a thing, and it can be a trigger
Speaker 1: for you know what I'm saying. So I understand what
Speaker 1: you're saying, because for me, it's like tell you jokes man,
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. But I just I can
Speaker 1: see how it can be triggering to somebody who's just
Speaker 1: that's too motherfucking you know. But I'm glad they got
Speaker 1: to work that out. You know, maybe I'll be on
Speaker 1: Club Sha, you know, maybe maybe you know, maybe Harry
Speaker 1: Money making appearance on Club You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 1: I open up for Mike. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I open up, you know, do my comedy set before
Speaker 1: I'm gonna bring me on. Man, you know my jokes
Speaker 1: is right. Come on, man, they're gonna throw your ass
Speaker 1: into that all these comedians and now they gonna be
Speaker 1: talking shit about you. Let him talk shit. I got
Speaker 1: I got ship to talk I don't think I got
Speaker 1: ship to talk back.
Speaker 2: I don't want to talk shit about nobody, man. I
Speaker 2: want to continue to keep our positive brain jo niggas up,
Speaker 2: keep smooth.
Speaker 1: Most comedians can't dress anyway. They clothes be fucked up.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna start with your clothes, start with your facial hairs,
Speaker 1: your beards be fucked up. Is it like a thing
Speaker 1: wearing comedy where niggas have to wear fucked up clothes
Speaker 1: so they jokes are better? Like what is that? Like?
Speaker 1: It's never good clothes until you like get to the top.
Speaker 1: Like Kevin is probably the only one that wears good clothes. No,
Speaker 1: Mike wears good clothes. Might be flying. Mike and Kevin
Speaker 1: be flying. Outside of that and during the air, Kings
Speaker 1: of Comedy, that was different. I didn't wear them suits,
Speaker 1: but I get it. We can name five. I warded
Speaker 1: Steve Harvey big bodies, what teaking pants? Come on, man
Speaker 1: getting fat? Give me the vest, to give me the vest,
Speaker 1: Come on, man, Steve Harvey blessed me with the hell
Speaker 1: of suits. Nigga, shout up to Steve. Niggas were suiting
Speaker 1: the movie and right now that niggas, Steve be clean.
Speaker 1: Kings of Comedy, hear different, clean, he a different clean
Speaker 1: now clean. You don't wave now, but everybody almost comedians
Speaker 1: are just like that. Yeah, no, no no.
Speaker 2: But also let's keep it a buck too, though, nigga,
Speaker 2: it's like it's expensive to wear.
Speaker 1: And you gotta get to a certain Listen, man, listen, man.
Speaker 1: When I was just playing at church for seventy five
Speaker 1: hours a Sunday, we're gonna pull up the pictures of
Speaker 1: you and your slacks. Bro, listen, old Tree, You're gonna
Speaker 1: look like boys, Jean, I put it. We look nice though, yeah,
Speaker 1: looking now. They had a question at least about one
Speaker 1: of the articles of clothing I had on. Somebody we
Speaker 1: get that shirt from there? Somebody put up.
Speaker 2: I know there's a lot of people that's from tanks,
Speaker 2: church days, and the church that he went to that
Speaker 2: got some pictures of him when he's walking around with
Speaker 2: his Bible at home room in high school.
Speaker 1: In high school suit and boot it. It wasn't expensive suits.
Speaker 1: It was a suit side of the four. But I
Speaker 1: put them things together because I wanted to look like
Speaker 1: something clean. I keep them clean tens, but clean. All right.
Speaker 1: That's the recap, man. Man. Shout out to all the
Speaker 1: Grammy Award winners. Shout out to all the Grammy No
Speaker 1: my knees. Shout out to our brother Harvey Mason Junior
Speaker 1: over there at the Grammys. Trying to get it all right,
Speaker 1: man and put in put it in put in a
Speaker 1: good space. Man, shout out to Usher, you.
Speaker 2: Got any I ain't saying no names stories from super
Speaker 2: Bowl Week or Grammy or Grammy Week. I like to say,
Speaker 2: shout out to that NBA all start that threw up
Speaker 2: on the table.
Speaker 6: What Yeah, I gotta tell you my shout out.
Speaker 1: That was it I got I think I ain't fucking
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