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Speaker 1: Really, Hello, is that missus doubtfire?

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Speaker 2: Yeah? Did I do it? Okay? That was great. I'm

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Speaker 2: not missus doutfire. I am Lala Kent. Welcome back to

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Speaker 2: give them Lala Podcasts. What a weird episode last week.

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Speaker 1: My heart is still racing from it still to this

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Speaker 1: day when I think back on it, because to me

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Speaker 1: as a viewer, we've gotten into another level of scary

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Speaker 1: with Sandoval.

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Speaker 2: And Raquel and Raquel and I want to deep dive

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Speaker 2: into it because there's a lot of things that obviously

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Speaker 2: people say like ooh, that didn't age well, Things that

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Speaker 2: Sina has said, things that a lot of us have said.

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Speaker 2: And I keep reiterating to Shina because she's struggling with

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Speaker 2: like how did I not see it? It's like it

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Speaker 2: takes me back to when I was sitting at Lisa

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Speaker 2: going in on Brock and I said to stand of all,

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Speaker 2: how dare you compare this man to my fiance, who

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Speaker 2: is a quote unquote stand up man. And I still

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Speaker 2: because I'm so mortified so I give sheen advice like,

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Speaker 2: you should not be mortified. You're supposed to trust your friends,

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Speaker 2: you're supposed to defend them in that way. But I

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Speaker 2: do understand because I can't watch one scene with my ex.

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Speaker 2: I can't watch a scene with me talking about him.

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Speaker 2: It's all just yeah, yeah, yeah. I want to talk

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Speaker 2: about this very quickly because last week's podcast, I talked

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Speaker 2: and I got a DM from this woman and she

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Speaker 2: said it was about if you are sober and you

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Speaker 2: but basically, if you don't have the means that someone

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Speaker 2: Like there's a difference between rich people who are sober

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Speaker 2: crosses into trully. Yeah. And I was like, that is

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Speaker 2: it was interesting that she pointed that out because I

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Speaker 2: don't look at it that way at all. You know,

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Speaker 2: I look at someone who is an addict and getting sober,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've never heard it that way, you know, but

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Speaker 2: You're actually right, But can I tell you I obviously

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Speaker 2: I'm talking about people who have addiction problems addiction wealthy. No,

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Speaker 1: That's very interesting. But proud of anyone who obviously you

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Speaker 2: I see no difference. Yeah, so I hope that you

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Speaker 2: two of you like her face. If you have not

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Speaker 2: seen the episode, which I'm sure you all have by now,

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Speaker 2: Katie's faces. Yeah, in this episode, perfect five star.

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Speaker 1: She's a mob boss vibes or something. I don't know

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's over it, and then the like fuck off,

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Speaker 2: Sanimal Santaval got a couple fuck offs at the beach.

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Speaker 2: Get He said something to me at the beach did

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Speaker 2: that's all we want you to do, Sandival, and we

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Speaker 1: Yes, yes, no, leave it up to that group, your group,

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Speaker 2: What the fuck is that?

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Speaker 1: I mean, it was fun to watch.

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Speaker 2: It was fun to watch, and thank god it was

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Speaker 1: I mean every time they're talking because they're they're saying

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Speaker 2: They thank god they did not, thank god, but.

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Speaker 1: Like, we get it. Sandoval is right now currently in

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Speaker 2: This is why I say they're all bobblehead? Yes, and

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Speaker 2: a custody battle for them. Really absolutely.

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Speaker 1: Oh yeah, that's a great point. Yeah, oh my god,

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Speaker 2: And you would have to agree if aunt Arianna said

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Speaker 1: Thank god she didn't do it really quick. Just before

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Speaker 2: Okay? And I said, if you were not happy with

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Speaker 2: Very quickly we left the beach. We apologized Katie and

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Speaker 2: Is too much. No, he was totally fine with it.

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Speaker 2: Satchel was totally fine with it. You guys didn't see

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Speaker 2: Satchel say the sand of all, you need to stop

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Speaker 2: He gone, don't funk around, let me just say that. Okay,

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Speaker 1: And also you have notes, but please touch on. I

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Speaker 2: It expressions and I loved when he was Schwartz was

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Speaker 1: Yeah, at that fucking important time.

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Speaker 2: At that point in time, he knew you need a

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Speaker 1: I loved I just loved it.

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Speaker 1: It was like you two and it was like that

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Speaker 2: Well, the the interview of James where he was like,

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Speaker 2: Can I tell you something? What When I watched it

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Speaker 2: I did cry? You did? It was hard?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fuck you Schwartz for making him cry?

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Speaker 2: Fuck off?

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Speaker 1: What do you think you're doing?

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Speaker 2: It just made me so sad because James and I

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Speaker 2: But I think it's because there's not many people who

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Speaker 2: He's very good, and he just bought a home. He did, Yes,

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Speaker 1: You know.

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Speaker 2: I'm not I'm not trying to like shit on my

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Speaker 2: That that's fucking boss. Yes, James Kennedy just bought a home, yal,

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I think that's You're so right. James does

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Speaker 2: This is people do love him.

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Speaker 1: Well, maybe it's me personally. I think he's so funny

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Speaker 2: That's what I mean is everyone takes him as like

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Speaker 2: that he works his ass off, yes, and like really

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Speaker 1: Oh he's out here opening up for Cascade. He's out

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Speaker 3: I imagine festive, I imagine festival.

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Speaker 2: We're so proud of James.

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Speaker 4: Another moment that I I think she's just gonna be

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Speaker 4: And Ali's saying like, isn't it a little strange?

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Speaker 2: Like would you trust? Would you be okay with Brock

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Speaker 1: I know, I feel bad, but you know what, she

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Speaker 2: We didn't know. We only had suspicions. We could only

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Speaker 2: you just saying they were dancing at one am at

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00:22:19,480 --> 00:22:22,320
Speaker 2: the abbey. The abbey is packed in West Hollywood, next

433
00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,000
Speaker 2: door to sir, Like, surely that could come across as

434
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,320
Speaker 2: like you're I can't walk up to Ariana and be

435
00:22:28,359 --> 00:22:30,000
Speaker 2: like they're having an affair. They were seen at one

436
00:22:30,040 --> 00:22:32,120
Speaker 2: am in the morning. Nobody couldn't walk up and say that.

437
00:22:32,240 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 1: And like Sandoval said, which was very convincing. If I

438
00:22:35,320 --> 00:22:37,840
Speaker 1: didn't know scandival had already happened in this moment, I'd

439
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:40,120
Speaker 1: be like, uh, you guys, come on. Listen to Sandoval,

440
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,919
Speaker 1: like he says, we know everyone at the abbey.

441
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:43,199
Speaker 2: We're not.

442
00:22:43,200 --> 00:22:45,919
Speaker 1: If I'm gonna have a rendezvous, I'm not gonna be

443
00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:48,600
Speaker 1: doing it at the abbey. But that's why it's so sick.

444
00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,920
Speaker 2: That's why it's so sick, And that's why he reminds

445
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:55,159
Speaker 2: me so much of my ex is. You listen to

446
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,200
Speaker 2: them and you believe every word that comes out of

447
00:22:58,240 --> 00:22:58,680
Speaker 2: their mouth.

448
00:22:59,280 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 1: It's weird because it's too obvious. They're like, well they're not, No,

449
00:23:02,840 --> 00:23:04,680
Speaker 1: nothing's going on, like how open they are.

450
00:23:05,640 --> 00:23:07,439
Speaker 2: Yeah, but there was and I think I may have

451
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:09,960
Speaker 2: brought this up already, but there was a moment on

452
00:23:10,000 --> 00:23:15,760
Speaker 2: my mom's birthday this year. So this was November, and

453
00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:19,040
Speaker 2: I was with Janet and I said, you know, I

454
00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:23,399
Speaker 2: really think something's going on between Raquel and Sandoval. She

455
00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 2: was like, it's so weird you say that, because over

456
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,520
Speaker 2: Thanksgiving we went over there and Ariana was really upset

457
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: in the guest room, talking about he's out there. Tom's

458
00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:38,760
Speaker 2: out there with Raquel like he always is, and I

459
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 2: don't know why we have to have people over all

460
00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:45,040
Speaker 2: the time. And Janet was like, yeah, they're out there,

461
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: Like she used the word frolicking in the pool.

462
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:50,560
Speaker 1: Janet or Ariana said frolicking.

463
00:23:51,359 --> 00:23:53,800
Speaker 2: I don't know whose mouth it came out of, but

464
00:23:53,920 --> 00:23:57,399
Speaker 2: Janet said frolicking in the pool. And I said, it

465
00:23:57,480 --> 00:24:01,800
Speaker 2: was just many situations that kept happening that were like

466
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:05,600
Speaker 2: that that. Like I've said a million times, we're confirming

467
00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,080
Speaker 2: what my goat was telling me. And I think that

468
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:13,120
Speaker 2: people like Sandoval, people like my ex they're very, very

469
00:24:13,119 --> 00:24:15,240
Speaker 2: good at what they do and they don't even know

470
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,120
Speaker 2: how to move another way. No, when they're convincing, absolutely,

471
00:24:19,600 --> 00:24:22,919
Speaker 2: that's the scariest part is in their mind they're not lying.

472
00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:28,320
Speaker 1: I knowing what they're saying. Do you think because I

473
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,520
Speaker 1: would have said before tonight's episode, or before the episode

474
00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: that we're discussing, I would have thought, yes, sand of

475
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 1: all is on that level of convincing himself. I'm not

476
00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:44,240
Speaker 1: lying in narcissism. But I would say Raquel wasn't. She isn't.

477
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,399
Speaker 1: She's figured, she's figuring shit out and she's got a

478
00:24:47,440 --> 00:24:48,800
Speaker 1: lot of stuff to work on, but not on the

479
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 1: narcissism level. But then with this episode, I'm looking at

480
00:24:53,400 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 1: Raquel and they're talking about, oh my god, they're gaslighting people.

481
00:24:57,960 --> 00:25:01,280
Speaker 1: Sandoval sitting there gaslighting people who are bringing up him

482
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:04,919
Speaker 1: and Raquel at the abbey, and she's kind of going

483
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: along with it. She's doing the whole Like I'm thinking

484
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:12,200
Speaker 1: the scene at the restaurant where Sandoval's like, oh my god,

485
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,919
Speaker 1: Katie talked about me and Raquel and Raquel's not to me.

486
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: My heart would beating.

487
00:25:18,040 --> 00:25:18,720
Speaker 2: And I would get up.

488
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 1: If I were Riquel, I'd be I can't fucking be here.

489
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 2: Well, I think she's letting him run the show, okay,

490
00:25:22,880 --> 00:25:26,280
Speaker 2: because I bet behind closed doors, he's telling her everything's fine,

491
00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:28,960
Speaker 2: this is how we're gonna do it. Just stick with

492
00:25:29,000 --> 00:25:31,640
Speaker 2: the plan. There was a plan in place, Yeah, there

493
00:25:32,160 --> 00:25:34,879
Speaker 2: had to have been. Don't you think like we're just

494
00:25:34,880 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 2: gonna act normal out in public.

495
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:38,280
Speaker 1: Yes, I think there was a plan, and I think

496
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:41,280
Speaker 1: they got too comfortable. I think they got way too comfortable,

497
00:25:41,280 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 1: and thinking her going to his show, them dancing at

498
00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:47,359
Speaker 1: the abbey, I think they thought they were untouchable, just

499
00:25:47,520 --> 00:25:52,200
Speaker 1: like your ex and then your ex gallivanting in Nashville

500
00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:55,800
Speaker 1: like people aren't gonna fucking take a picture for La La, right,

501
00:25:55,920 --> 00:25:58,399
Speaker 1: not because I care about you, but for I just

502
00:25:58,440 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 1: think they get you.

503
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:01,760
Speaker 2: Don't want to meet that person, sin Yeah, who took

504
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:02,920
Speaker 2: the photos?

505
00:26:03,200 --> 00:26:06,240
Speaker 1: The person who took the photo. If you'd like to

506
00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,359
Speaker 1: DM the proof we need to know from your phone time, stamp.

507
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,719
Speaker 2: Al, I would love to meet you and thank you

508
00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:17,520
Speaker 2: and sobbed you for literally saving my life.

509
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, just DM the podcast with like photo like something

510
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,600
Speaker 1: is the first two words, so I know when I look,

511
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:25,600
Speaker 1: because we do get a ton of dms that it's

512
00:26:25,760 --> 00:26:26,479
Speaker 1: that's what it is.

513
00:26:26,640 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, and then I'm gonna meet you and give you

514
00:26:28,320 --> 00:26:31,480
Speaker 2: a big old La La hug. Speaking of La La,

515
00:26:32,440 --> 00:26:38,080
Speaker 2: let's speak of after after I go in on Schwartz.

516
00:26:38,080 --> 00:26:41,919
Speaker 1: Od Okay, I.

517
00:26:41,160 --> 00:26:45,120
Speaker 2: Went off on him. You're broke, You're a fucking loser.

518
00:26:45,320 --> 00:26:47,840
Speaker 2: You can't open a goddamn bar. Let me know when

519
00:26:47,840 --> 00:26:53,760
Speaker 2: I can walk in and order something I saw red. Yeah,

520
00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:57,639
Speaker 2: And what I'm sure people who have kids may or

521
00:26:57,680 --> 00:27:01,479
Speaker 2: may not feel this way. The second you start saying

522
00:27:01,600 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 2: things that are directly you're directly coming for how I provide,

523
00:27:09,040 --> 00:27:10,879
Speaker 2: and it may not seem like a big deal to

524
00:27:10,920 --> 00:27:13,159
Speaker 2: you because you don't know the ins and outs, but

525
00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 2: I am at war. Okay, at this point in time,

526
00:27:17,920 --> 00:27:22,040
Speaker 2: I'm at war. And every single thing that I sell,

527
00:27:22,640 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 2: every single thing that offers me a paycheck, my work

528
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: that is going into a fund that is protecting the

529
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,600
Speaker 2: well being and future of ocean. So for you to

530
00:27:33,720 --> 00:27:36,439
Speaker 2: say that give them La Las, Corny, this, that and

531
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:40,720
Speaker 2: the other, I am gonna fucking slice you and each

532
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,880
Speaker 2: for breakfast. Yeah, I was furious. I don't think I've

533
00:27:44,960 --> 00:27:48,440
Speaker 2: ever been that level of furious with anybody in my life.

534
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 1: Well, I could tell you or furious. When were you triggered?

535
00:27:52,280 --> 00:27:56,720
Speaker 2: Do you remember? It was when he says the brand

536
00:27:56,800 --> 00:27:58,359
Speaker 2: was corny and then he walks away, and you know,

537
00:27:58,440 --> 00:28:01,560
Speaker 2: he said, I'm a thought times the human that you

538
00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:06,480
Speaker 2: will ever be fine. I don't need, I don't need

539
00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: to go toes with you on who's the better human.

540
00:28:09,840 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 2: Like I'm very comfortable with who I am and the

541
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:14,560
Speaker 2: way I live my life. I look at you and

542
00:28:14,760 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily want anything that you have, and my

543
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,359
Speaker 2: program teaches me to surround yourself with people who have

544
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,720
Speaker 2: what you want. He doesn't have anything that I want,

545
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:29,440
Speaker 2: and I don't have anything that he wants. All good,

546
00:28:29,560 --> 00:28:33,159
Speaker 2: let's leave it there. Now you're directly affecting my bank account,

547
00:28:33,200 --> 00:28:34,359
Speaker 2: which is not just mine.

548
00:28:34,400 --> 00:28:34,600
Speaker 3: Now.

549
00:28:34,680 --> 00:28:37,280
Speaker 2: This is like when my kid wants it's time for

550
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,160
Speaker 2: her to go to school, when I get another legal bill.

551
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,680
Speaker 1: So when he brought up your brands, it was like

552
00:28:43,400 --> 00:28:46,480
Speaker 1: because you walked away and then came back right he.

553
00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,640
Speaker 2: Walked away and I said, hold on one, like I'm

554
00:28:48,640 --> 00:28:51,520
Speaker 2: not finna, you better come back here. Let's fucking talk

555
00:28:51,560 --> 00:28:54,320
Speaker 2: about this. And you see him immediately retreat again eating,

556
00:28:54,360 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 2: saying you're a great mom. It's like, fuck you again.

557
00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 2: This isn't about being a great mom. I know I'm

558
00:28:59,840 --> 00:29:02,080
Speaker 2: do you want an okay? Job here? This is about

559
00:29:02,160 --> 00:29:06,440
Speaker 2: providing for my child, okay. And every single moment that

560
00:29:06,480 --> 00:29:10,440
Speaker 2: goes by it is all directly related to Ocean. I'm

561
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 2: in a delicate situation. I could be sitting there with

562
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:15,560
Speaker 2: a group of friends at a bar and you could

563
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:19,520
Speaker 2: say I love beer, and I would sit there and go,

564
00:29:19,680 --> 00:29:22,720
Speaker 2: oh my gosh, the other day someone drank a beer

565
00:29:22,760 --> 00:29:25,920
Speaker 2: while I was with Ocean. There's just something inside of

566
00:29:25,960 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 2: me that anytime someone says anything, I find a way

567
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,920
Speaker 2: to directly relate it to my daughter. And it's not

568
00:29:33,160 --> 00:29:35,640
Speaker 2: on purpose. It's just I don't know if I'm in

569
00:29:35,680 --> 00:29:38,160
Speaker 2: fight mode. I don't know if I'm in uncharted territory

570
00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 2: where this is not normal. But I just felt this

571
00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,520
Speaker 2: sense of like complete and utter rage. But it's the truth.

572
00:29:45,920 --> 00:29:48,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's not like he said something and

573
00:29:48,360 --> 00:29:51,680
Speaker 1: you connected it to ocean and us as the viewers

574
00:29:51,720 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: were like, well, that's a weird connection. No, that's the truth. Yeah,

575
00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 1: that was the truth. Everything you said about your brands

576
00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:01,440
Speaker 1: and providing in the fund for her future, that's all true.

577
00:30:01,560 --> 00:30:03,640
Speaker 1: So of course that was triggered, and you know, of

578
00:30:03,680 --> 00:30:06,160
Speaker 1: course that was the response because that's the truth, right.

579
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 2: So I go the fuck off? Yeah, or Schwartz already

580
00:30:08,680 --> 00:30:10,320
Speaker 2: has an issue with me because of the text I

581
00:30:10,360 --> 00:30:12,880
Speaker 2: sent him a while ago. People have a really hard

582
00:30:12,960 --> 00:30:15,720
Speaker 2: time with my mouth and the things that I say

583
00:30:15,880 --> 00:30:18,160
Speaker 2: to me. They're not that bad. All I said was

584
00:30:18,200 --> 00:30:20,960
Speaker 2: your cut, and I said, you you couldn't even pick

585
00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:23,680
Speaker 2: your own wife's team. How the fuck could I expect

586
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:24,360
Speaker 2: you to pick mine?

587
00:30:24,360 --> 00:30:24,479
Speaker 4: Like?

588
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:28,800
Speaker 2: It didn't seem that deep. And I didn't take a dig,

589
00:30:28,840 --> 00:30:30,640
Speaker 2: he said, I took. You took a dig at my marriage.

590
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:32,080
Speaker 2: I didn't take a dig at your marriage. Ever, I

591
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:33,920
Speaker 2: took a dig at you in the marriage. The marriage

592
00:30:33,960 --> 00:30:37,160
Speaker 2: was beautiful, Yes, it could have been something great. You

593
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:38,680
Speaker 2: weren't that great in it? All right, let's just call

594
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,040
Speaker 2: it what it is anyway.

595
00:30:40,200 --> 00:30:43,600
Speaker 1: Perspective again, well, people have problems with honesty. You want

596
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:47,320
Speaker 1: to trigger someone, be honest, say something too honest. You're

597
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,200
Speaker 1: not gonna getriggered over something that's not honest. That's very true,

598
00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:53,320
Speaker 1: that's not reflecting of you. That's what's going to trigger you.

599
00:30:53,320 --> 00:30:53,880
Speaker 2: Is that.

600
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:57,040
Speaker 1: That's exactly So that's why I couldn't let go enter

601
00:30:57,200 --> 00:30:57,800
Speaker 1: sand of all.

602
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:04,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, she doesn't know who she is whatever, Well it's

603
00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:06,840
Speaker 2: not a real name. There's a start with a therapist

604
00:31:07,520 --> 00:31:13,240
Speaker 2: as he's fucking a Rachel turned Raquel. The level of

605
00:31:13,600 --> 00:31:18,400
Speaker 2: just insanity and unawareness.

606
00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:23,640
Speaker 1: Disconnection, digestion, it's like, what the fuck.

607
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:26,880
Speaker 2: Are I don't know who I am? As you have

608
00:31:26,960 --> 00:31:30,360
Speaker 2: a living feeling or a living girlfriend who you're thinking

609
00:31:30,360 --> 00:31:33,720
Speaker 2: about fertilizing her eggs and you're fucking her best friend,

610
00:31:33,720 --> 00:31:36,040
Speaker 2: who again is a Rachel, not a Raquel. Changed your

611
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:39,160
Speaker 2: name when she was a little tiny tot because she

612
00:31:39,200 --> 00:31:42,680
Speaker 2: saw a prima ballerina named Raquel and she wanted to

613
00:31:42,720 --> 00:31:47,239
Speaker 2: be a Raquel, okay, but me little Lauren who just

614
00:31:47,240 --> 00:31:50,040
Speaker 2: like was walking around and just suddenly got the name Laala,

615
00:31:50,160 --> 00:31:51,040
Speaker 2: not even by choice.

616
00:31:52,840 --> 00:31:55,200
Speaker 1: This is what I mean. This episode takes him to

617
00:31:55,240 --> 00:32:00,160
Speaker 1: another level. It's like laughing yet I'm scared, like I'm laughing,

618
00:32:00,200 --> 00:32:02,239
Speaker 1: but with a very concerned look on my face, like

619
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: what's going on here? And it only gets worse until

620
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,400
Speaker 1: the end. As we know.

621
00:32:09,640 --> 00:32:12,600
Speaker 2: I saw the preview last week for tonight's episode.

622
00:32:12,840 --> 00:32:16,400
Speaker 1: I mean, I need you to clarify because the talk

623
00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: on Twitter, the talk on socials is all right, let's

624
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,120
Speaker 1: be real. The producers knew it's too they didn't.

625
00:32:23,480 --> 00:32:26,280
Speaker 2: Can I tell you why? I know they did not

626
00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:31,680
Speaker 2: know in every single interview because we don't start really

627
00:32:31,720 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: doing interviews until the very end of the season, and

628
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:38,400
Speaker 2: then we only do interviews right because the season's filmed

629
00:32:38,480 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 2: and like they're all done pretty much after the season

630
00:32:43,040 --> 00:32:49,280
Speaker 2: wrapped in what September seventeenth, yep, Okay. I would sit

631
00:32:49,320 --> 00:32:54,440
Speaker 2: in the interview chair and our producer would say, Lala, like,

632
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,400
Speaker 2: there has to be something that you've seen. I don't

633
00:32:58,440 --> 00:33:00,840
Speaker 2: think they're hooking up. I think they're just tight friend group,

634
00:33:00,880 --> 00:33:03,320
Speaker 2: Like what have you seen? And of course they're obviously

635
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:06,520
Speaker 2: very interested in and this is all off camera. This

636
00:33:06,600 --> 00:33:10,560
Speaker 2: is just between producer and me. Yeah, they're not filming this.

637
00:33:11,680 --> 00:33:14,360
Speaker 2: He like really wanted to know what I'd seen. Obviously,

638
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,400
Speaker 2: throughout the season, I start becoming more comfortable. Okay, I'm

639
00:33:17,400 --> 00:33:20,720
Speaker 2: not the only one talking about this. Katie's like, I

640
00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 2: don't think we're the only ones talking about this. Sounds

641
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:25,320
Speaker 2: like Ali's a little suspicious as well. Yeah, it was

642
00:33:25,360 --> 00:33:27,480
Speaker 2: kind of the three of us that I'm seeing, yes,

643
00:33:27,600 --> 00:33:31,160
Speaker 2: being like we're slowly putting it together. I think I'm

644
00:33:31,160 --> 00:33:34,240
Speaker 2: the first one that's like, here's the deal. This is happening. Mm.

645
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 2: But I said to our producer, producer Jerry, something is

646
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: going on. He's like, I don't see it, but it

647
00:33:41,720 --> 00:33:45,200
Speaker 2: makes good TV me talking about this. They're like, roll

648
00:33:45,240 --> 00:33:46,960
Speaker 2: the camera. I was just talking about it right now.

649
00:33:47,040 --> 00:33:50,280
Speaker 1: But yes, and you look wounded, kind of saying that

650
00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,400
Speaker 1: that's also why it makes good TV. It's like, la, la,

651
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,880
Speaker 1: don't bring you know what. You're passed into this. Nothing's

652
00:33:55,960 --> 00:33:56,680
Speaker 1: going on.

653
00:33:56,800 --> 00:34:01,560
Speaker 2: Everyone. You're bitter. Even at the reunion, you're gonna you're bitter.

654
00:34:02,080 --> 00:34:05,880
Speaker 2: You need to let you're angry. No, I'm not bitter

655
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,640
Speaker 2: and angry. This is called I'm aware now. I know

656
00:34:11,040 --> 00:34:14,160
Speaker 2: that not everyone is good. In fact, most people are

657
00:34:14,239 --> 00:34:19,880
Speaker 2: not good. People are people right, You cannot control what

658
00:34:19,960 --> 00:34:23,160
Speaker 2: they do. Shit happens. I'm not willing to take that chance.

659
00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 2: I don't like sitting there going you can come into

660
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:29,000
Speaker 2: my life and I'm gonna trust you enough not to

661
00:34:29,040 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 2: fuck up. Nope, you immediately become a liability and I

662
00:34:32,320 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 2: don't want you around me. That's just the way it is.

663
00:34:35,600 --> 00:34:38,720
Speaker 1: No, it is crazy. Believe me. If I wasn't around

664
00:34:38,760 --> 00:34:41,600
Speaker 1: when you got the call and confirming everything, I would

665
00:34:41,600 --> 00:34:44,960
Speaker 1: be like, right there done. I was right there when

666
00:34:44,960 --> 00:34:48,520
Speaker 1: she got the call, and it was explosive in an

667
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:52,080
Speaker 1: emotional way when it was confirmed about scandaval and and

668
00:34:52,120 --> 00:34:55,160
Speaker 1: not just on Lawless end. I'm talking like Productions end two.

669
00:34:56,040 --> 00:34:59,680
Speaker 1: It was not expected. And if I wasn't sitting right

670
00:34:59,719 --> 00:35:03,279
Speaker 1: here when Lala got the confirmation call about it, I

671
00:35:03,320 --> 00:35:05,200
Speaker 1: would have been like, come on. I would have been

672
00:35:05,200 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 1: with all of these people saying like someone new, someone new.

673
00:35:08,440 --> 00:35:09,879
Speaker 1: I would have because I would have been like, Laala,

674
00:35:09,960 --> 00:35:12,440
Speaker 1: come on, just tell me, just tell me, because it

675
00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,239
Speaker 1: looks like production new. The titles, the scenes that haven't

676
00:35:16,280 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 1: been edited like all of it.

677
00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: No, it was just the most high level foreshadowing you've

678
00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,440
Speaker 2: ever experienced in your life because of the things that

679
00:35:24,440 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 2: were happening. It was like you kissed Schwortzy and that

680
00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 2: was like a big deal, but the audience would have

681
00:35:29,480 --> 00:35:32,040
Speaker 2: been torn. You've been calling me a mistress. It all

682
00:35:32,080 --> 00:35:36,319
Speaker 2: adds up to the season. Had this never happened. Yeah, wild, No,

683
00:35:36,400 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: it is wild. And I remember that day saying they're

684
00:35:39,719 --> 00:35:40,919
Speaker 2: picking cameras back up.

685
00:35:41,239 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 1: Oh my god. That was when he.

686
00:35:42,600 --> 00:35:44,399
Speaker 2: Texted me, do you know what's going on? They're saying,

687
00:35:44,440 --> 00:35:46,680
Speaker 2: I can't I can't go do watch Rabins Live, that

688
00:35:46,719 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 2: everyone has to stay in town for the next week

689
00:35:48,520 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 2: and a half. They're picking cameras back up. I was like,

690
00:35:52,200 --> 00:35:55,000
Speaker 2: we got season eleven already, you.

691
00:35:56,560 --> 00:35:58,600
Speaker 1: Were and then then yeah.

692
00:35:58,400 --> 00:36:03,799
Speaker 2: Something is wrong. Thing happened. I immediately felt it. I said,

693
00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:05,840
Speaker 2: I got a call Sheena. Something happened. She was with

694
00:36:05,960 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 2: Raquel that night for watch what happens? I called her.

695
00:36:09,440 --> 00:36:11,960
Speaker 1: She didn't even tell you either, but she coded it well.

696
00:36:12,000 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 2: First I texted Jeremiah, our producer, and I said, I

697
00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:18,440
Speaker 2: know that you don't want you want cameras up before

698
00:36:18,440 --> 00:36:20,799
Speaker 2: we find out. But again, you guys, this is real life.

699
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,680
Speaker 2: These are our real friend groups. Like we don't say like, oh,

700
00:36:23,880 --> 00:36:27,040
Speaker 2: we only talk when cameras are up. Yeah, no, like

701
00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:29,200
Speaker 2: you better get a camera to my office right now

702
00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 2: because I'm gonna threw what the fuck is going on?

703
00:36:31,360 --> 00:36:33,840
Speaker 1: Yes, you're not just gonna wait around. You have to.

704
00:36:34,120 --> 00:36:35,760
Speaker 1: It's friends, they're your friends.

705
00:36:35,640 --> 00:36:39,840
Speaker 2: Friends, these are life people. Yeah. So I texted him first,

706
00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,800
Speaker 2: just to make sure you know that everyone was safe,

707
00:36:42,800 --> 00:36:45,360
Speaker 2: and okay, I didn't know. Was someone diagnosed with a

708
00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: terminal illness? Like we've never picked cameras back up for

709
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:50,520
Speaker 2: any fucking reason.

710
00:36:50,600 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: You were thinking the worst? Did say, yeah, the sickness, Like,

711
00:36:53,760 --> 00:36:54,640
Speaker 1: what's going on?

712
00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:59,480
Speaker 2: Yes, that's what I was thinking. Yeah, he said everyone,

713
00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 2: everyone is healthy. Yes, And so then I called Shena

714
00:37:03,200 --> 00:37:05,640
Speaker 2: and I said what's going on? She said I can't

715
00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:07,840
Speaker 2: talk right now, and I said, just tell me. Is

716
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:10,160
Speaker 2: it what I've been suspecting? And she said yes, I

717
00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:14,080
Speaker 2: have to go. She hangs up, calls me back because

718
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: she was doing whatever she was doing, and I just

719
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:17,600
Speaker 2: broke down.

720
00:37:17,800 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: Yes, that's how I was going to say. She said,

721
00:37:19,360 --> 00:37:22,440
Speaker 1: Lalla starts bawling and that's how you know, why did

722
00:37:22,480 --> 00:37:23,560
Speaker 1: you start crying in that moment?

723
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:26,680
Speaker 2: Well, I started crying because I immediately felt for Ariana,

724
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:31,960
Speaker 2: you know, that gut punch. But there was so much like,

725
00:37:33,400 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 2: there was a lot of I don't want to say hate,

726
00:37:35,320 --> 00:37:39,640
Speaker 2: but there was a lot of tension between Katie and

727
00:37:39,719 --> 00:37:43,160
Speaker 2: Shina and I had become good with both of them,

728
00:37:43,239 --> 00:37:47,960
Speaker 2: and you know, it was an uncomfortable position because it

729
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 2: was there. There were a lot of feelings that were

730
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,719
Speaker 2: very extreme feelings between the two of them. And we

731
00:37:53,719 --> 00:37:58,879
Speaker 2: were in Palm Springs a few weeks before and we

732
00:37:58,880 --> 00:38:02,879
Speaker 2: were talking about Katie and Raquel, and she just said, well,

733
00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:05,120
Speaker 2: at least my best friend, because I was telling her

734
00:38:05,120 --> 00:38:07,880
Speaker 2: her friends stupid Raquel. Yeah, and she goes, well, at

735
00:38:07,960 --> 00:38:10,440
Speaker 2: least my friend, my best friend's not a bit and

736
00:38:10,480 --> 00:38:12,799
Speaker 2: she's nice. And I said, yeah, we're gonna see about that.

737
00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:15,920
Speaker 2: We're gonna see about that. And so I said to

738
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,200
Speaker 2: her on the phone, I said, you know, you may

739
00:38:18,239 --> 00:38:20,160
Speaker 2: not like the words that come out of Katie's mouth,

740
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:23,399
Speaker 2: because she know was really hurt by Katie in one

741
00:38:23,440 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: of the episodes, saying her word her world is going

742
00:38:26,120 --> 00:38:28,719
Speaker 2: to fall apart, and I'm gonna smile or I'm gonna

743
00:38:28,760 --> 00:38:32,120
Speaker 2: laugh like she know really her O C D kicked

744
00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:34,239
Speaker 2: in and was like, that's my biggest fear, which I get,

745
00:38:34,239 --> 00:38:36,799
Speaker 2: but to me again, sticks and stones. I said, you

746
00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,719
Speaker 2: may not like what comes out of Katy's mouth, but

747
00:38:39,840 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 2: Katie would never fucking do this to a friend. She

748
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:48,080
Speaker 2: would never do this to a person, and just all

749
00:38:48,200 --> 00:38:52,440
Speaker 2: all help broke loose. Yeah, it was insane. Let's end

750
00:38:52,440 --> 00:38:54,040
Speaker 2: this on a very very high note.

751
00:38:54,080 --> 00:38:58,440
Speaker 1: So let's please Because the episode ended on Sandaval smiling,

752
00:38:58,480 --> 00:39:00,400
Speaker 1: can we just talk about that moment? I want to

753
00:39:00,400 --> 00:39:05,000
Speaker 1: know what you think smiling and being asked by producer

754
00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,239
Speaker 1: Jerry have you and Raquel ever been physical? And him

755
00:39:10,600 --> 00:39:13,399
Speaker 1: looking at the camera with that fucking smile and being

756
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 1: like whatever.

757
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:18,840
Speaker 2: He said, it would be like me hooking up with Katie.

758
00:39:18,840 --> 00:39:21,680
Speaker 2: It was like the longest pause I've ever seen them

759
00:39:21,719 --> 00:39:25,040
Speaker 2: just sit on someone's face and I.

760
00:39:24,800 --> 00:39:27,120
Speaker 1: Was like, oh my god.

761
00:39:27,360 --> 00:39:30,640
Speaker 2: He was way too fumbly, and then him saying Katie

762
00:39:30,640 --> 00:39:32,680
Speaker 2: needs to take accountability and you should be with someone

763
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,919
Speaker 2: for who they are, not who you want them to be.

764
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,239
Speaker 2: That ugh is he said something like that is whats ipe?

765
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:44,399
Speaker 2: He goes, that is what's up? Katie, Wow, so profound,

766
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:47,600
Speaker 2: standa bal you should be like a philosopher, like you

767
00:39:47,680 --> 00:39:48,279
Speaker 2: shut up.

768
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:52,520
Speaker 1: It's scary and it's only getting scarier. I don't know.

769
00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:58,279
Speaker 2: Nothin back to James Kennedy, I watched that scene of

770
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,880
Speaker 2: the one fifty one in the eye drid and fifteen

771
00:40:00,920 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: times one hundred and fifty one times. Ali.

772
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,120
Speaker 1: You know what I thought from the preview. I thought

773
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:13,040
Speaker 1: he had touched a jalapeno and rubbed and rubbed his

774
00:40:13,080 --> 00:40:14,680
Speaker 1: eye and was screaming for Alie to help him.

775
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:16,640
Speaker 2: No, And so I was rewinding and I was like,

776
00:40:16,760 --> 00:40:20,200
Speaker 2: how did the straw get into the eye? How did

777
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:24,160
Speaker 2: it flip? Did she do it? Yes, she's holding it

778
00:40:24,200 --> 00:40:26,400
Speaker 2: and he says, I dare you Christina, And he puts

779
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:29,279
Speaker 2: the straw and Alley's in between James and Christina, I

780
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: dare you to drink the middle. Ali clearly is annoyed

781
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,279
Speaker 2: with him, and like goes to move it and it

782
00:40:35,400 --> 00:40:44,520
Speaker 2: into flips into his eye. I could not stop. That

783
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:49,080
Speaker 2: was the funniest scene. And why was she so funny?

784
00:40:49,360 --> 00:40:51,919
Speaker 2: And now when he was screaming Ali, it was like, oh, Ali,

785
00:40:51,960 --> 00:40:54,080
Speaker 2: you probably should have gone did it?

786
00:40:55,600 --> 00:40:59,359
Speaker 1: I thought he was just screaming her name as like Halle, Ali.

787
00:41:01,400 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: No, that's how.

788
00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,360
Speaker 1: He is so fucking funny.

789
00:41:08,680 --> 00:41:11,200
Speaker 2: And she had logic. She was like one fifty one

790
00:41:11,239 --> 00:41:13,319
Speaker 2: and she goes, I've heard of that, and I go,

791
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:16,520
Speaker 2: you have and she was like, yeah, that guy sings

792
00:41:16,520 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 2: about it one fifty one, Rum Malibu who it's my

793
00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:26,879
Speaker 2: Tech nine Jews, Pineapple Juice and Malabu Caribou. Get them

794
00:41:26,880 --> 00:41:30,680
Speaker 2: ma all numb? Make baby girl come, you're mock. I

795
00:41:30,960 --> 00:41:33,960
Speaker 2: was like, I've heard this song. I'm like, what have

796
00:41:34,040 --> 00:41:36,239
Speaker 2: you been listening to? Tech nine?

797
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:41,040
Speaker 1: Tech nine hood Go Crazy used to be my fucking jam.

798
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,960
Speaker 2: Tech Nine's legit as it gets h James, that was good.

799
00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:48,279
Speaker 1: And you know what I think James and Ali. I

800
00:41:48,280 --> 00:41:50,960
Speaker 1: think no matter what I've said on the past podcast,

801
00:41:51,160 --> 00:41:54,000
Speaker 1: they they balance each other. Am I yelling I'm so

802
00:41:54,080 --> 00:41:55,560
Speaker 1: excited to guys, I'm screaming.

803
00:41:55,760 --> 00:41:57,759
Speaker 2: You were screaming to them in the background. It was

804
00:41:57,760 --> 00:42:00,520
Speaker 2: like they were here in the other room and James

805
00:42:00,520 --> 00:42:02,440
Speaker 2: and Allie, James and Allie.

806
00:42:02,880 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: If you can hear me right now, guys, this office

807
00:42:06,719 --> 00:42:07,920
Speaker 1: probably hates me so much.

808
00:42:07,960 --> 00:42:09,279
Speaker 2: I need to make it clear it's me and not

809
00:42:09,320 --> 00:42:11,640
Speaker 2: yet well you know, no, it is not you. That

810
00:42:11,760 --> 00:42:14,160
Speaker 2: was the first time you've ever done that ever. Ever,

811
00:42:14,880 --> 00:42:17,279
Speaker 2: you know, Katie's stylist is across the hall, and I

812
00:42:17,320 --> 00:42:18,600
Speaker 2: went over and met her and I was like, I'm

813
00:42:18,600 --> 00:42:20,400
Speaker 2: sure you hear me yelling all the time and she

814
00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,840
Speaker 2: was like yeah, and it's not yelling like mean. I

815
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,759
Speaker 2: just like kind of when I get like abrupt, I'm

816
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:30,719
Speaker 2: like you, motherfucker. But it's not even about you.

817
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:33,200
Speaker 1: No, it's like you. No, you're passionate about it, and

818
00:42:33,200 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 1: then you get energy. That's how I get. It's like

819
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:38,760
Speaker 1: ocean when she gets excited. That's how I feel.

820
00:42:38,840 --> 00:42:40,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, with it totally.

821
00:42:41,320 --> 00:42:43,200
Speaker 1: But anyway, no matter what I've said, I think they

822
00:42:43,239 --> 00:42:44,120
Speaker 1: balance each other out.

823
00:42:44,120 --> 00:42:44,359
Speaker 2: Well.

824
00:42:44,480 --> 00:42:46,360
Speaker 1: The fact that he was like a ah and she

825
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,160
Speaker 1: was laughing and then he came back out and he's like.

826
00:42:49,120 --> 00:42:51,680
Speaker 2: And I heard you laughing, or however he said, nobody

827
00:42:51,680 --> 00:42:54,360
Speaker 2: wants to watch you make a fool of yourself. No

828
00:42:54,400 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: one's enjoying it. Sit down, shut up?

829
00:42:57,880 --> 00:43:00,520
Speaker 1: Yes with her Burger, didn't she sit down?

830
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:05,280
Speaker 2: Shut up? For her? In hand, she is such a vibe.

831
00:43:05,600 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: She's really a vibe. And every episode I see I'm like, okay, okay.

832
00:43:10,440 --> 00:43:12,279
Speaker 2: I just like the way I like the way that

833
00:43:12,360 --> 00:43:15,400
Speaker 2: she talks. Yeah, when she said in her interview, like

834
00:43:15,480 --> 00:43:17,440
Speaker 2: get over it or don't get over but don't have

835
00:43:17,480 --> 00:43:19,840
Speaker 2: a new girlfriend, she just makes all the sense.

836
00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:22,360
Speaker 1: You guys have similar tendencies.

837
00:43:22,600 --> 00:43:23,800
Speaker 2: We do want a compliment.

838
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:26,879
Speaker 1: Yeah, James must be attracted to that in women.

839
00:43:27,239 --> 00:43:28,600
Speaker 2: I don't know, because look at Raquel.

840
00:43:28,760 --> 00:43:29,000
Speaker 3: I know.

841
00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,320
Speaker 2: I don't know. He's brought some pretty buffoonery looking bitches around.

842
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,879
Speaker 2: You know. And by the way, my mom never thinks

843
00:43:35,920 --> 00:43:39,080
Speaker 2: anyone's pretty like she doesn't. I don't get it. I'll

844
00:43:39,239 --> 00:43:43,000
Speaker 2: point out a supermodel. She's like me. Every time Ali

845
00:43:43,080 --> 00:43:47,080
Speaker 2: pops up on screen, She's like, she is so beautiful.

846
00:43:47,160 --> 00:43:50,080
Speaker 2: She is her smile, look at that smile.

847
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 1: The healthy hair.

848
00:43:52,120 --> 00:43:54,919
Speaker 2: Fuck her for that hair. I was like, are you

849
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:56,319
Speaker 2: what do you use it in that hair?

850
00:43:57,160 --> 00:43:58,120
Speaker 1: Tell us your secret?

851
00:43:58,320 --> 00:44:02,759
Speaker 2: You've got a neutrafil like Arsenal, how do you get

852
00:44:02,800 --> 00:44:04,040
Speaker 2: that hair? She must?

853
00:44:04,719 --> 00:44:06,560
Speaker 1: I want you to have her on this podcast because

854
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: I think she that would be very good.

855
00:44:08,320 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 2: Let's get her on. I would love that anyway. You

856
00:44:10,080 --> 00:44:15,839
Speaker 2: guys this, I'm like, so, I don't know that. I

857
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,319
Speaker 2: hope that you enjoyed this episode of Give Them La

858
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 2: La Podcast. I'm kind of bummed because we're recording it

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Speaker 2: so early, and I will be the reason we're recording

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Speaker 2: early is because I am headed to the White House

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Speaker 2: correspondence dinner. I hope you guys have an incredible rest

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Speaker 2: of the week. Enjoy tonight's episode, and I'll catch you

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Speaker 2: later