1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:02,440 Speaker 1: I don't know what to do because I found my 2 00:00:02,560 --> 00:00:05,680 Speaker 1: long lost brother, but contacting him might ruin both of 3 00:00:05,680 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: our lives and our families. Here's what I'm going to do. 4 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 1: That's a tough one. Both of their lives could ruin everything. 5 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:16,279 Speaker 1: Maybe you should do it, Maybe you should and light 6 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: everything on fire. 7 00:00:17,239 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: I don't know. Live Levina loca, that does not mean 8 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:28,120 Speaker 2: live Leavina Loca. Oh crazy life. Yeah, I know, I 9 00:00:28,160 --> 00:00:30,240 Speaker 2: haven't heard of Levita live. I don't even know. 10 00:00:30,680 --> 00:00:34,600 Speaker 1: I didn't even think it's one of those things. Yeah, 11 00:00:34,720 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 1: I've never even directly translated it. But it's just like, yeah, 12 00:00:37,600 --> 00:00:38,279 Speaker 1: basically like. 13 00:00:39,560 --> 00:00:45,760 Speaker 2: Essentially, it's in Mexican in Spanish. 14 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:53,840 Speaker 1: Yes, that's amazing. Living is yolo in Mexican? That is 15 00:00:54,800 --> 00:00:58,160 Speaker 1: I meant Spanish, meant Spanish, she meant Spanish. 16 00:00:58,640 --> 00:01:00,800 Speaker 2: Did the Spaniard say that or is to Mexico thing? 17 00:01:01,840 --> 00:01:02,040 Speaker 2: You know? 18 00:01:02,120 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: I don't know. I think it might be a general 19 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:08,760 Speaker 1: like Spanish Spanish speaker thing. Okay, yeah, noted let us 20 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: know in the conference. It's like the song what. 21 00:01:12,720 --> 00:01:16,400 Speaker 2: Eleveda Loka oh Loka. 22 00:01:16,959 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: I'm sure probably can't put it in though, because yeah, 23 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:21,959 Speaker 1: all right, never put it in Editors, but you know, 24 00:01:21,959 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: I just take it out. 25 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:26,800 Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I remember we found it, all right? 26 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: Shall we dive in Mexican? So bad, bro, It's amazing, Okay. 27 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:37,199 Speaker 1: My thirties dad in his sixties has a brother, Rick 28 00:01:37,840 --> 00:01:40,959 Speaker 1: in his fiftiesk before Rick was born. When my grandparents 29 00:01:41,000 --> 00:01:44,479 Speaker 1: were in their early twenties, my grandfather cheated and had 30 00:01:44,640 --> 00:01:47,240 Speaker 1: a baby John with another woman. 31 00:01:47,560 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 2: John, is it you hope? Not classic Grandpa classic with 32 00:01:55,400 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 2: all his mistresses. Popanks, Pop, I knew I got it 33 00:01:59,240 --> 00:02:01,120 Speaker 2: from somewhere. Oh yeah. 34 00:02:01,200 --> 00:02:03,800 Speaker 1: The other woman was a teenager and decided to give 35 00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:07,800 Speaker 1: John up for adoption. Damn, I got a sad okes 36 00:02:07,920 --> 00:02:12,520 Speaker 1: b dang For various reasons, my grandmother stayed with her 37 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:16,079 Speaker 1: husband despite the affair, and then they had Rick, who 38 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:18,600 Speaker 1: was Opie's uncle. We always knew that this brother was 39 00:02:18,720 --> 00:02:22,320 Speaker 1: out there, and we're always curious about him. We never 40 00:02:22,400 --> 00:02:25,000 Speaker 1: knew his birth name and that he was given up 41 00:02:25,040 --> 00:02:26,639 Speaker 1: for adoption in a nearby area. 42 00:02:26,800 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 2: So like all, the whole family knows that this strange 43 00:02:30,480 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 2: brother it but doesn't know who John is. Yes, could 44 00:02:35,040 --> 00:02:37,200 Speaker 2: be anybody, John? Are you? My uncle? 45 00:02:39,080 --> 00:02:40,960 Speaker 1: My dad and my uncle signed up to one of 46 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 1: those twenty three and me sits, but no one ever 47 00:02:44,480 --> 00:02:47,359 Speaker 1: came up. I signed up for it too, and one 48 00:02:47,440 --> 00:02:50,280 Speaker 1: day I signed in and I saw a familiar name. 49 00:02:50,400 --> 00:02:54,359 Speaker 1: Believe it or not, one of my coworker acquaintances, Jackie, 50 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,280 Speaker 1: came up as a first or second cousin. Whoa damn Jackie. 51 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: That's from the thing that seventy show. Yeah, I've never 52 00:03:03,520 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: watched the reference. 53 00:03:04,600 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: Yea reference. 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: I know it's culture reference that John has on me victory, 55 00:03:11,440 --> 00:03:15,760 Speaker 1: meaning we probably shared one grandparent. I reached out to her, 56 00:03:16,040 --> 00:03:18,760 Speaker 1: We did the investigation, and it turns out that her 57 00:03:18,919 --> 00:03:23,000 Speaker 1: dad is my dad's long lost half brother. 58 00:03:23,360 --> 00:03:27,320 Speaker 2: Her dad is my dad's long lost half Oh, so 59 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:33,120 Speaker 2: this is the bastard child. The bastard child. I always 60 00:03:33,160 --> 00:03:37,360 Speaker 2: think Game of Thrones. I finally understand it's been seven 61 00:03:37,520 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 2: long years, started watching it. This is the first time 62 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: I've ever seen in my whole life. Right, what's one one? Damn? 63 00:03:47,080 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 2: What do you think? It's pretty good? I can't believe 64 00:03:51,120 --> 00:03:54,880 Speaker 2: you're watching it now. Yeah, dude, after all is dead. Yeah, 65 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 2: they really killed it with the last seasons, but like 66 00:03:58,200 --> 00:04:01,520 Speaker 2: like six seasons, the ride is good. Yeah, I'll take 67 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 2: a good ride. 68 00:04:02,120 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, that's my draft we did the investigation, John's birthday matched, 69 00:04:07,840 --> 00:04:11,120 Speaker 1: and John looks more like my grandfather than my dad 70 00:04:11,240 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: or uncle Rick do really, But John never signed up 71 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:17,800 Speaker 1: for those DNA websites. He was uneasy about finding his 72 00:04:17,800 --> 00:04:19,559 Speaker 1: biological parents, which makes sense. 73 00:04:19,640 --> 00:04:20,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, it does make sense. 74 00:04:20,720 --> 00:04:23,880 Speaker 1: Like, Yeah, I told my dad and Rick about the 75 00:04:23,920 --> 00:04:28,080 Speaker 1: news because it was exciting. My dad understood John's reservations 76 00:04:28,160 --> 00:04:31,200 Speaker 1: and send an email to hold on to and send 77 00:04:31,240 --> 00:04:34,880 Speaker 1: to John in case he wanted to hear from him. Rick, however, 78 00:04:35,120 --> 00:04:38,039 Speaker 1: told me that he was going to reach out to John. 79 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,159 Speaker 1: I asked him how he got any of his contact info, 80 00:04:41,640 --> 00:04:44,160 Speaker 1: and Rick told me that he already did a background 81 00:04:44,279 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: check on John and found out all kinds of. 82 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:53,320 Speaker 2: Info on him. Oh what's the info? All kinds of info? 83 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:58,720 Speaker 1: Oh no, I asked him, begged him, pleaded with him 84 00:04:59,000 --> 00:05:03,160 Speaker 1: to just wait a little while. Jackie hadn't told John 85 00:05:03,240 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 1: about any of this yet, and I just wanted him 86 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,239 Speaker 1: to wait until she did. Ideally John would reach out first, 87 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,919 Speaker 1: or at least give the okay for his brothers to 88 00:05:12,960 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 1: contact him, but at the very least I wanted him 89 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: to know about it first. 90 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, like I'm the long lost failing here. 91 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:32,800 Speaker 1: I am Yeah, Tailor reunion right now, everybody's here, all 92 00:05:32,920 --> 00:05:33,600 Speaker 1: hundred of us. 93 00:05:34,560 --> 00:05:38,000 Speaker 2: You start storing some of the castles. Oh my god, 94 00:05:38,120 --> 00:05:42,200 Speaker 2: the White Walkers are coming. Have you gotten to that part? 95 00:05:43,360 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: I know they're coming by. I ain't seen him yet. 96 00:05:46,880 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 2: I'm excited to have updates on where you are. And 97 00:05:49,040 --> 00:05:55,479 Speaker 2: gave it John's John's Chronicles. What was the last episode 98 00:05:55,520 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 2: he watched? Uh? 99 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:06,800 Speaker 1: Oh, the Lanister brother confronted ned Stark because he kidnapped 100 00:06:08,520 --> 00:06:12,640 Speaker 1: Peter dinklic I forget his name. That's a Lanister brother Jerry, 101 00:06:12,720 --> 00:06:17,920 Speaker 1: and yeah, they kidnapped him. And then so uh the Lanaster, 102 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: the other Lanaster twin confronted him and uh one of 103 00:06:21,960 --> 00:06:25,280 Speaker 1: his dudes stabbed him Jamie Lanister, right, the blonde. 104 00:06:25,080 --> 00:06:27,880 Speaker 2: Dude isone and his sister. Yeah, it's a red A 105 00:06:27,920 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 2: story right there. That's crazy. What if we just. 106 00:06:33,160 --> 00:06:35,479 Speaker 1: Made it like in the reddit style and like had 107 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: people get. 108 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:44,159 Speaker 2: It's overboding my sister on the daily. But she's so hot, sirs, 109 00:06:44,200 --> 00:06:51,599 Speaker 2: he can get some uh oh season one sirc doing it. Huh. 110 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:53,800 Speaker 2: Although I'm not I'm not trying to have any beef 111 00:06:53,880 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 2: with ther Man. She's crazy, Okay. 112 00:06:58,800 --> 00:07:01,440 Speaker 1: I continued to beg and for just some time for 113 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:04,600 Speaker 1: John to come to terms with everything, And eventually Uncle 114 00:07:04,720 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: Rick totally blew up at me and essentially said that 115 00:07:07,839 --> 00:07:11,840 Speaker 1: I was gatekeeping his brother from him, classic gatekeeping? 116 00:07:12,920 --> 00:07:14,640 Speaker 2: Is that true? I don't know. 117 00:07:17,440 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 1: I mean, just sign up for twenty three and meters. 118 00:07:19,360 --> 00:07:21,640 Speaker 1: I think he's just trying to be considerate. Yeah, I 119 00:07:22,280 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: see what OP he's trying to do. But it's also like, 120 00:07:25,000 --> 00:07:29,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, I why is op so being the one? 121 00:07:29,160 --> 00:07:31,760 Speaker 1: It's like, oh, I'm going to decide whether you meet 122 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:36,800 Speaker 1: him or not. Is OPI suspicious that Uncle John is really? Oh? 123 00:07:36,920 --> 00:07:41,200 Speaker 2: Like is is there is there more infidelity? Possibly? I 124 00:07:41,200 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: don't know. Okay, Okay, let's find out, Like, like, maybe 125 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:49,600 Speaker 2: we know Grandpa was unfaithful, but was Grandma and faithful? 126 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:52,640 Speaker 2: Does it? Does it run in the family? Does it 127 00:07:52,680 --> 00:07:57,640 Speaker 2: go both boy sides? Yeah? Oh yeah? Uh. 128 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,120 Speaker 1: He said I was trying to control his life and 129 00:08:00,160 --> 00:08:02,440 Speaker 1: it wasn't my decision or Jackie's decision. 130 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:05,080 Speaker 2: What he does? He told me he was cutting me 131 00:08:05,120 --> 00:08:08,920 Speaker 2: out of his life completely. Oh wait, what he's done? 132 00:08:09,320 --> 00:08:12,800 Speaker 2: Uncle Rick is had enough? That seems a little bit much. 133 00:08:12,840 --> 00:08:15,360 Speaker 1: That seems like a lot of it much, which so 134 00:08:15,520 --> 00:08:18,840 Speaker 1: far he has whatever, He's always been very dramatic, and 135 00:08:18,920 --> 00:08:22,200 Speaker 1: I'm over the drama. He ended up contacting John through 136 00:08:22,280 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: John's work email, which really upset Jackie, John and me. 137 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:30,400 Speaker 1: I felt absolutely terrible for telling Rick the news in 138 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 1: the first place, but I never expected him to do 139 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 1: what he did, So am I the a hole? Jackie said, 140 00:08:39,720 --> 00:08:41,960 Speaker 1: don't tell your family. I don't know if that was 141 00:08:42,080 --> 00:08:49,720 Speaker 1: Jackie's thought or Ope's thought. So Jackie knew that John 142 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: was uneasy about these sites, which is why he never 143 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: had signed up to try to find his biological parents. 144 00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:59,240 Speaker 1: It's like jack Jackie knows, and Jackie told Ope that, like, hey, 145 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,400 Speaker 1: like John is kind of uneasy about anything that might 146 00:09:03,520 --> 00:09:06,959 Speaker 1: like uneasy about basically finding out whose biological parents are. 147 00:09:07,120 --> 00:09:18,199 Speaker 2: Right, and Ope, he kind of like told his family anyway, Yeah, 148 00:09:18,240 --> 00:09:21,000 Speaker 2: that's tricky. Is op the a hole for telling his 149 00:09:21,040 --> 00:09:25,400 Speaker 2: family that this is where the long lost brother is? 150 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,560 Speaker 1: And I guess like there's like inviting that kind of 151 00:09:30,600 --> 00:09:32,600 Speaker 1: in a way invite even though we tried to get 152 00:09:32,640 --> 00:09:34,800 Speaker 1: them to not do it, it kind of invites them 153 00:09:34,840 --> 00:09:35,760 Speaker 1: to contact. 154 00:09:35,440 --> 00:09:39,760 Speaker 2: Him because they now know exactly what is And then 155 00:09:39,840 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 2: also there's the gatekeeping. Yeah, yeah, it's kind of weird 156 00:09:43,280 --> 00:09:46,480 Speaker 2: on all it is. It's it's weird on all fronts 157 00:09:46,480 --> 00:09:49,439 Speaker 2: because it's weird. It's it's it's kind of like a 158 00:09:50,480 --> 00:09:55,280 Speaker 2: weird move to tell the people even after he was 159 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:58,760 Speaker 2: specifically kind of set told like, hey, I don't know 160 00:09:58,800 --> 00:10:02,960 Speaker 2: if John would like yeah, And it's weird that he's like, oh, 161 00:10:03,200 --> 00:10:08,120 Speaker 2: don't reach out to him because he doesn't like because 162 00:10:08,160 --> 00:10:11,000 Speaker 2: only like I can reach out to him, baby, Well 163 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:12,120 Speaker 2: he didn't, really, he didn't. 164 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,599 Speaker 1: Reach He's waiting for Jackie because Jackie has knows John already, 165 00:10:16,760 --> 00:10:19,520 Speaker 1: so he was waiting for Jackie to get the okay 166 00:10:19,520 --> 00:10:20,120 Speaker 1: from John. 167 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:23,840 Speaker 2: Is what it seemed like, which is, if he actually 168 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 2: wants to wait for Jackie to get the okay from John, 169 00:10:26,559 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 2: he should wait for Jackie to get the okay from John. 170 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:31,920 Speaker 1: Before even telling his uncle that he knows. Yeah, and 171 00:10:31,960 --> 00:10:32,719 Speaker 1: he knows this first. 172 00:10:33,000 --> 00:10:37,320 Speaker 2: Yeah. It feels like he did like two half measures yeah, 173 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 2: and neither of them worked out. Yes, Like he did 174 00:10:39,840 --> 00:10:44,880 Speaker 2: a half measure and ensuring that like he told like 175 00:10:45,080 --> 00:10:48,000 Speaker 2: he basically told the family but said not to say 176 00:10:48,000 --> 00:10:50,599 Speaker 2: anything so that to half measure, like yeah, go the 177 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:52,560 Speaker 2: full way, just like don't like of course they're going 178 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 2: to go reach out to him. Yeah, and then he 179 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:58,160 Speaker 2: did a half measure by saying like, yeah, he's out there, 180 00:10:58,240 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 2: but I'm not going to give you the information. Yeah. 181 00:11:00,679 --> 00:11:03,160 Speaker 2: It's like it's like go all the way or don't. 182 00:11:03,559 --> 00:11:05,640 Speaker 2: You did two half measures, and thus she pissed off 183 00:11:05,679 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: both sides of the people. And I think that's why 184 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:11,160 Speaker 2: I think he's an asshole for not not like kind 185 00:11:11,200 --> 00:11:12,200 Speaker 2: of choosing a side. 186 00:11:12,640 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, must that is, Yeah, that's a those great breakdowns. 187 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: You really broke the down that little. 188 00:11:19,920 --> 00:11:22,320 Speaker 2: I think the least asshole thing to do would be 189 00:11:22,320 --> 00:11:27,000 Speaker 2: to find out the information and wait for John to respond. 190 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 1: Yeah, because like why even tell the uncle and the 191 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:33,520 Speaker 1: rest of the family that he knows exactly who John is? 192 00:11:33,559 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Like why do that wait for John to be like, Okay, 193 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,360 Speaker 2: they can I mean it's not like they can, like 194 00:11:39,360 --> 00:11:41,200 Speaker 2: they can go do the twenty three meter thing too, 195 00:11:41,280 --> 00:11:43,880 Speaker 2: if they really wanted to find John. It sounds like 196 00:11:43,920 --> 00:11:46,480 Speaker 2: Op was the one who wanted to look into it. 197 00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 2: So I think Op is a little bit the a 198 00:11:49,520 --> 00:11:53,760 Speaker 2: hole for two half measures. Yeah, I think so too. Yeah, 199 00:11:53,840 --> 00:11:55,280 Speaker 2: I don't know what do you guys think? Let us 200 00:11:55,320 --> 00:11:57,720 Speaker 2: know in the comments below and also, do you have 201 00:11:57,800 --> 00:12:01,880 Speaker 2: any crazy siblings that you found out about and anyone 202 00:12:01,920 --> 00:12:04,000 Speaker 2: who's used twenty three and meters? Like, did he find 203 00:12:04,000 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 2: out you're related to someone someone that you didn't realize. Oh, 204 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,839 Speaker 2: I would love to know your uh, your story is 205 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 2: on that. And also if you want to submit your 206 00:12:14,520 --> 00:12:18,280 Speaker 2: stories to us, we are now taking phone calls. You 207 00:12:18,320 --> 00:12:20,640 Speaker 2: can pitch us your story and we might call you 208 00:12:20,679 --> 00:12:21,800 Speaker 2: back and interview about it. 209 00:12:21,960 --> 00:12:24,520 Speaker 1: That's right, call four four zero five or eight six 210 00:12:24,679 --> 00:12:27,040 Speaker 1: five six seven and drop your stories. 211 00:12:27,280 --> 00:12:29,680 Speaker 2: And now we're going to drop into this next story. Boom, 212 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:34,080 Speaker 2: I abandoned my family after my mom forced me to 213 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 2: meet my daughter. Am I the asshole? Damn? How how 214 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:40,840 Speaker 2: gnarly is your own freaking daughter? Man? Like she got 215 00:12:40,880 --> 00:12:42,440 Speaker 2: just perpetual bad breath? 216 00:12:42,600 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 1: Or she's thinking, is she just a not a good 217 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:50,360 Speaker 1: hang like serial killer ceial That would be a prettyial 218 00:12:50,440 --> 00:12:52,040 Speaker 1: killer like cannibal. 219 00:12:52,640 --> 00:12:55,719 Speaker 2: Wow, cannibal serial killer. I'm the antisman. If I if 220 00:12:55,720 --> 00:13:00,559 Speaker 2: I birthed serial killer, I'd be like I wouldn't want 221 00:13:00,559 --> 00:13:02,680 Speaker 2: to hang out with her meet either. Hey, you know 222 00:13:02,960 --> 00:13:05,920 Speaker 2: some and some parents have cannibal cereal killers. 223 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:08,320 Speaker 1: You know there are people that have lived on this 224 00:13:08,400 --> 00:13:09,600 Speaker 1: planet that have done that. 225 00:13:09,800 --> 00:13:12,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, anybody do you want to hang out with them? No? 226 00:13:13,200 --> 00:13:15,360 Speaker 2: I don't want to be eat no. Oh all right, 227 00:13:15,400 --> 00:13:18,480 Speaker 2: let's get into the story. So earlier this year, a 228 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 2: girl I once emphasis once is in all capitals hooked 229 00:13:23,240 --> 00:13:25,679 Speaker 2: up with texted me and told me she has a 230 00:13:25,800 --> 00:13:28,439 Speaker 2: one year old daughter and I might be the father. 231 00:13:29,200 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 2: I didn't want to believe her, but we took a 232 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:34,800 Speaker 2: maternity test and it turned out I really am the father. 233 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:39,520 Speaker 2: There you go, baby, no more. He needed literally once 234 00:13:40,280 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 2: that's so rough due Hey all, I'm saying shoot or 235 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 2: shoot shoot shoo man boy, fartle my boy fertili as fuck. 236 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:50,120 Speaker 2: So she didn't tell me she was pregnant. She didn't 237 00:13:50,120 --> 00:13:53,240 Speaker 2: tell me when my daughter was born. No, she told 238 00:13:53,280 --> 00:13:56,640 Speaker 2: me when my daughter was one year old. I feel 239 00:13:56,679 --> 00:13:58,480 Speaker 2: like it's a dick move not to tell the father 240 00:13:59,120 --> 00:14:00,800 Speaker 2: when you're pregnant, right, the. 241 00:14:01,120 --> 00:14:04,240 Speaker 1: Only if there's a scenario where it's like unsafe or 242 00:14:04,280 --> 00:14:07,000 Speaker 1: like there's like yeah, safety, health, et cetera concerns. But 243 00:14:07,040 --> 00:14:09,120 Speaker 1: if it's just a you know, if it's like a 244 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:11,680 Speaker 1: situation like that you just hooked up once and there's 245 00:14:11,679 --> 00:14:15,800 Speaker 1: no like bad blood or like any like negative negativity 246 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: in that sense hanging around it. 247 00:14:17,320 --> 00:14:19,720 Speaker 2: Then I feel like the father has a right to know. Yeah, 248 00:14:19,760 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 2: I feel like it's good. I feel like it's good 249 00:14:21,520 --> 00:14:25,120 Speaker 2: to tell them. This and other circumstances has led me 250 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 2: to not wanting anything to do with her or my daughter. 251 00:14:29,400 --> 00:14:31,880 Speaker 2: Of course, I will pay child support, but she didn't 252 00:14:31,920 --> 00:14:34,920 Speaker 2: give me any chance to bond with her. Well, my 253 00:14:35,120 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: mother loves children and immediately got in contact with the 254 00:14:38,360 --> 00:14:41,200 Speaker 2: mother and met the child. They've been very close and 255 00:14:41,240 --> 00:14:44,200 Speaker 2: meeting regularly. I have no problem with that at all. 256 00:14:44,560 --> 00:14:47,160 Speaker 2: I just don't want to meet her at myself. Okay, 257 00:14:47,200 --> 00:14:49,640 Speaker 2: So now to the story. My mom broke her foot 258 00:14:49,680 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 2: and needs help at home, so I moved back in 259 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,280 Speaker 2: to support her. I helped her with the cat's with food, 260 00:14:55,320 --> 00:14:57,600 Speaker 2: household stuff. A few days ago, I met with my 261 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:01,200 Speaker 2: friend and came home very late and slept into when 262 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,440 Speaker 2: I was woken up by some voices coming out of 263 00:15:04,480 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 2: my mom's bedroom. Mind you, she doesn't have a door, 264 00:15:07,360 --> 00:15:09,840 Speaker 2: and I'm sleeping in the living room, also without a door. 265 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:13,440 Speaker 2: So I listened to the voices and it really was 266 00:15:13,840 --> 00:15:16,760 Speaker 2: the mother and my child. I didn't want to meet them, 267 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,720 Speaker 2: see them, hear them, or whatever. I was so mad 268 00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 2: that my mom would do this to me without waking 269 00:15:22,400 --> 00:15:24,960 Speaker 2: me up so I can leave. I just got up 270 00:15:25,000 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 2: and left. Later that day, I got an angry text 271 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:31,000 Speaker 2: from my mom and my grandma saying I'm a horrible 272 00:15:31,080 --> 00:15:34,000 Speaker 2: son for just leaving. My grandma said some hurtful stuff 273 00:15:34,040 --> 00:15:38,800 Speaker 2: about me being like my father. I'm just so confused. Now, 274 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: Am I really the asshole for just leaving because she 275 00:15:41,840 --> 00:15:45,560 Speaker 2: invited two people I didn't want to see. Edit and 276 00:15:45,640 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: let me clear some things up. Yes, we use protection. 277 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,120 Speaker 2: I'm one hundred percent sure about my choice. I just 278 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,400 Speaker 2: need more time. I get that my daughter is here now, 279 00:15:54,640 --> 00:15:56,640 Speaker 2: but I need more time to prepare myself as I 280 00:15:56,640 --> 00:15:59,120 Speaker 2: didn't get nine months like my mother, like the mother 281 00:15:59,200 --> 00:16:02,280 Speaker 2: of my child. My father was in my life, but 282 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,920 Speaker 2: a shitty dad, and that's why I don't want to 283 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:05,880 Speaker 2: rush decision. I think it would be better for a 284 00:16:05,960 --> 00:16:08,400 Speaker 2: daughter to not have me present instead of me not 285 00:16:08,520 --> 00:16:11,400 Speaker 2: being good enough for her. I slept so long because 286 00:16:11,440 --> 00:16:13,920 Speaker 2: I was talking to my friend for so long, not 287 00:16:14,040 --> 00:16:16,840 Speaker 2: drinking or stuff like that. It was a Saturday, and 288 00:16:16,960 --> 00:16:20,360 Speaker 2: abortion in my country is illegal? Is legal? Or is 289 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:24,200 Speaker 2: he illegal? Is legal? Yeah? So is there is a 290 00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:28,840 Speaker 2: short edit. But before we get into that, what do 291 00:16:28,880 --> 00:16:32,800 Speaker 2: you think is op and able? Oh, it's kind of 292 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:34,960 Speaker 2: a toughie. Uh. 293 00:16:35,200 --> 00:16:37,560 Speaker 1: I don't know if I would be like this is 294 00:16:37,640 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 1: a great mood guy or a great move. 295 00:16:41,880 --> 00:16:49,480 Speaker 2: But I think personally I would have trouble saying that's 296 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:52,640 Speaker 2: like if that was my daughter, Yeah, my son, I 297 00:16:52,680 --> 00:16:55,160 Speaker 2: would have trouble saying like I don't want to meet them. 298 00:16:55,400 --> 00:16:58,680 Speaker 2: I wouldah, yeah, I would want to meet them. Yeah. 299 00:16:58,760 --> 00:17:01,200 Speaker 1: I think he's like going that's where I'm debating because 300 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:03,720 Speaker 1: I'm like, but I would be pretty upset about this 301 00:17:03,880 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 1: happened that. 302 00:17:05,840 --> 00:17:07,240 Speaker 2: I was not. 303 00:17:08,920 --> 00:17:11,119 Speaker 1: Given a heads up, and I get that it is 304 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:14,760 Speaker 1: kind of like a big thing to like process you 305 00:17:14,760 --> 00:17:16,879 Speaker 1: know what I mean, I do, I don't. I also 306 00:17:16,960 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 1: don't quite understand not wanting to meet her and not 307 00:17:20,200 --> 00:17:24,639 Speaker 1: like I don't know like this I'm gonna say, uh, 308 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,560 Speaker 1: maybe the a hole for now, because I'm like, I 309 00:17:27,720 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: he is trying to like put up some some boundaries 310 00:17:30,720 --> 00:17:33,280 Speaker 1: and this was thrown on him, So I I do 311 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,879 Speaker 1: have some some understanding there, but I'm also just like 312 00:17:36,560 --> 00:17:38,240 Speaker 1: kind of I feel like it's like it's giving like 313 00:17:38,400 --> 00:17:41,520 Speaker 1: deadbeat dad out of jail free card a little bit 314 00:17:41,600 --> 00:17:44,320 Speaker 1: where it's like, hey, you sprung this on me, so 315 00:17:44,520 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 1: it's too much now, Like I just don't want to 316 00:17:47,119 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 1: deal with it. And that's why, you know, it just 317 00:17:49,520 --> 00:17:51,080 Speaker 1: doesn't feel I don't know. 318 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,239 Speaker 2: It's something I think the the whole thing about. I mean, 319 00:17:56,280 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: he's probably shocked, for sure, he's probably Yeah, But like 320 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:04,920 Speaker 2: I think it's I think the asshole move. I think 321 00:18:04,920 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 2: he's totally in his right to be upset that he 322 00:18:08,240 --> 00:18:11,399 Speaker 2: was not told until she was one years old. Totally 323 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,600 Speaker 2: totally right to be upset. And let me know if 324 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:17,280 Speaker 2: you disagree and why. Yeah, I feel it's pretty clear 325 00:18:18,640 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 2: from where I'm standing right now, or really information I have, 326 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:23,000 Speaker 2: Like I feel like it's a little wrong to not 327 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:27,640 Speaker 2: include the father on the decision, but including what John 328 00:18:27,680 --> 00:18:32,119 Speaker 2: said about like if obviously like there is a dangerous 329 00:18:32,160 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 2: reason or you know, didn't end on in a safe way, 330 00:18:36,720 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 2: like then I totally understand not including the father and 331 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,720 Speaker 2: that decision. But if everything is like amicable, I think 332 00:18:42,760 --> 00:18:46,639 Speaker 2: you should. So Dick moved not to And then I 333 00:18:46,640 --> 00:18:50,040 Speaker 2: think it's a dick move, for an asshole move for 334 00:18:50,600 --> 00:18:55,119 Speaker 2: O P. To not want to see his daughter at all. Yeah, 335 00:18:55,160 --> 00:18:57,600 Speaker 2: And I think you're right in the Deadbeat Dad. Yeah, 336 00:18:57,640 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 2: it's just it's just such an extreme measure. But the 337 00:19:01,680 --> 00:19:04,320 Speaker 2: update A very short update. Okay, I made up my 338 00:19:04,359 --> 00:19:07,440 Speaker 2: mind I want to meet her. Well there you go. 339 00:19:07,800 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 2: Okay a little bit though, but he said short update. 340 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,359 Speaker 2: I'm like, how long are we talking? I'm sure we 341 00:19:15,400 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 2: talking once I met her. So there's it'll be I 342 00:19:17,840 --> 00:19:18,880 Speaker 2: guess another update too. 343 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:21,360 Speaker 1: Oh okay, well maybe I'll have to peak peek back 344 00:19:21,359 --> 00:19:22,320 Speaker 1: in once that happens. 345 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: But yeah, I I say, now, not an asshole. I 346 00:19:26,000 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 2: would say now, not not the asshole. 347 00:19:27,560 --> 00:19:31,040 Speaker 1: I mean he he was down to provide child's Yeah, 348 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:32,520 Speaker 1: it was just like, why do. 349 00:19:32,520 --> 00:19:34,880 Speaker 2: You not want to like meet No. I think he 350 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:35,560 Speaker 2: was just pissed. 351 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: Yeah, And you know what, there's a lot of there 352 00:19:38,720 --> 00:19:40,520 Speaker 1: are a lot of situations that we've read on this 353 00:19:40,680 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: very show where two people are like the white the 354 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,719 Speaker 1: woman is like, hey, I'm I'm I'm letting you know, 355 00:19:46,920 --> 00:19:49,359 Speaker 1: but like, I'm down and kind of want to, you know, 356 00:19:50,400 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 1: raise this kid on my own. You could be a 357 00:19:52,560 --> 00:19:55,480 Speaker 1: part of the kid's life and co parent if you like. 358 00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:57,320 Speaker 1: But I'm totally fine taking that on. And then the 359 00:19:57,359 --> 00:20:00,879 Speaker 1: guy's like, all right, I honestly, Like, I'm like, I 360 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:04,199 Speaker 1: don't have any interest. That's a completely different story, I 361 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 1: feel like. But yeah, this one was like a little off. 362 00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: But see maybe Op's ope's coming coming around. The shock 363 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:12,800 Speaker 1: is like kind of ebbing away. 364 00:20:13,000 --> 00:20:16,160 Speaker 2: So yeah, so I think OPI made the right decision 365 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,639 Speaker 2: in meeting his daughter. Yes, step in the right direction. 366 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 2: Step in the right direction, baby, But let me know 367 00:20:20,320 --> 00:20:22,280 Speaker 2: what you guys think. Put your answers in the comments, 368 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,679 Speaker 2: and John, let's get into this next story. Let's do it. 369 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 2: We're actually better yet. You know, you could literally call 370 00:20:27,720 --> 00:20:30,520 Speaker 2: us right now while you're listening to this podcast. That's right, 371 00:20:30,680 --> 00:20:32,760 Speaker 2: literally call us John's what's what's the number? John? 372 00:20:32,960 --> 00:20:35,120 Speaker 1: Hit our line at four four zero five zero eight 373 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 1: six five six seven. Let's get into the next one.