1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:07,680 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast, It's not Billie Jeans Lover. 2 00:00:10,960 --> 00:00:13,399 Speaker 1: Do you think maybe Halloween se is gonna be a 3 00:00:13,480 --> 00:00:17,680 Speaker 1: thriller reference? If we're gonna be talking anything off Michael 4 00:00:17,760 --> 00:00:22,800 Speaker 1: Jackson's landmark album, what's a reminder that we have nothing 5 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:25,680 Speaker 1: to do with, um the process of how those are 6 00:00:25,720 --> 00:00:27,960 Speaker 1: produced or tagged onto our show. Yeah, and I've enjoyed 7 00:00:28,040 --> 00:00:30,400 Speaker 1: a lot of them are reacting to current events. This 8 00:00:30,440 --> 00:00:33,360 Speaker 1: one they're reacting to a forty year old album from 9 00:00:33,400 --> 00:00:39,680 Speaker 1: the Chris Westling podcast, It's Around the NFL. Also very timely. 10 00:00:39,720 --> 00:00:45,599 Speaker 1: Good job, Grave Digger, I'm Dan Hansas Heroes here, Greg Rosenthal, 11 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: Mark Sessler. It's week eight on the Sunday night flagship 12 00:00:50,320 --> 00:00:55,600 Speaker 1: program UM. This past Sunday, we went through and try 13 00:00:55,640 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: to figure out who the good teams are boys as 14 00:00:59,240 --> 00:01:02,240 Speaker 1: we start to spit towards what's around the midpoint of 15 00:01:02,240 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 1: the season. Now, it would be nice of a couple 16 00:01:04,600 --> 00:01:09,479 Speaker 1: more very good teams showed themselves, maybe even another great 17 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:12,520 Speaker 1: team to join the Big three. This would be nice, 18 00:01:12,520 --> 00:01:14,240 Speaker 1: I would like to say, and maybe starting this week, 19 00:01:14,680 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: a team like say the Cowboys or I don't know 20 00:01:19,480 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 1: the Vikings or I don't know hell, the Bucks, are 21 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:28,479 Speaker 1: the Packers? Do something? Get us excited? Don't hold your breath. 22 00:01:28,480 --> 00:01:30,440 Speaker 1: If anything, some of the teams you named, I think 23 00:01:30,480 --> 00:01:32,640 Speaker 1: are going to head in the other direction. A team 24 00:01:32,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 1: like the Packers, a team like the Bucks. It's like 25 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:38,839 Speaker 1: I'm a couple of bad appearances away with those teams 26 00:01:38,840 --> 00:01:42,280 Speaker 1: from essentially saying float off. But the parody. And everyone 27 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: says they want parody until they get like the ultimate 28 00:01:44,720 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 1: parody season, and then everyone is complaining about it and 29 00:01:47,319 --> 00:01:51,640 Speaker 1: I super teams like when I was growing New York. 30 00:01:52,680 --> 00:01:54,680 Speaker 1: He should be happier. But the thing about parody is 31 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: all of these teams that are stuck in the middle 32 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: and continue to disappoint, they won't be out of it because, 33 00:02:01,000 --> 00:02:03,880 Speaker 1: like you see, eight wins will get you into the 34 00:02:03,880 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 1: playoffs and the Southern Divisions like nine eight eight wins 35 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:08,920 Speaker 1: might win you the divisions. So this thing will just 36 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:12,240 Speaker 1: be drawn out. This is this is another win for 37 00:02:13,120 --> 00:02:15,639 Speaker 1: It's another win for Greg because in years past, when 38 00:02:15,639 --> 00:02:17,560 Speaker 1: I would say I don't believe in a Vikings team 39 00:02:17,560 --> 00:02:19,480 Speaker 1: that's gonna even win nine games and get into the 40 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: wild card round and get waxed, now that nine win 41 00:02:22,240 --> 00:02:24,840 Speaker 1: team has a viable chance to probably get out of 42 00:02:24,840 --> 00:02:27,520 Speaker 1: the NFC, and I find that highly annoying to me 43 00:02:27,680 --> 00:02:31,200 Speaker 1: as a fan. Here we go another one of those shows. 44 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:34,200 Speaker 1: I thought everyone was happy coming into this show. I 45 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,160 Speaker 1: think the Thursday show, I am happy. I am allowed 46 00:02:37,200 --> 00:02:40,799 Speaker 1: to be. Why should I be pleased by total it's 47 00:02:40,800 --> 00:02:42,760 Speaker 1: the middle of the road and play and teams. That's 48 00:02:42,800 --> 00:02:48,520 Speaker 1: what they want time of my lifeisodes In those opening 49 00:02:48,520 --> 00:02:50,840 Speaker 1: a couple of minutes, when you hear that certain token 50 00:02:51,000 --> 00:02:53,760 Speaker 1: and Mark's boys that little like extra like edge to it, 51 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:56,120 Speaker 1: you know it's going to be one of those spicies. 52 00:02:56,160 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: It's usually when I've had less than two hours of 53 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:04,120 Speaker 1: sleep the night before, which is accurate everyone. I like 54 00:03:04,200 --> 00:03:07,639 Speaker 1: these Thursdays though, because on the other show days there's 55 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,079 Speaker 1: like a lot of other things going on, and at 56 00:03:10,120 --> 00:03:11,720 Speaker 1: least for me, and I think it's for you guys 57 00:03:11,720 --> 00:03:14,440 Speaker 1: do this Thursday show. It's just all ball. We just 58 00:03:14,480 --> 00:03:17,239 Speaker 1: got this show. We're gonna do football, as we all know. 59 00:03:18,240 --> 00:03:21,000 Speaker 1: Only that that's great. This is it. I liked your 60 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,519 Speaker 1: reference to the Southern divisions as well. I haven't heard 61 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,720 Speaker 1: that before. Well, they're they're struggling this year. Other than 62 00:03:26,760 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 1: you know, those Titans. No one Um no one you know, 63 00:03:30,120 --> 00:03:32,680 Speaker 1: kicks four field goals and gets the four in two 64 00:03:32,720 --> 00:03:34,800 Speaker 1: like those types. Why do we have to have division 65 00:03:34,800 --> 00:03:37,160 Speaker 1: winners into the playoffs in a season like this, I'd say, 66 00:03:37,160 --> 00:03:40,000 Speaker 1: if you're gonna do this to us, rearrange how certain 67 00:03:40,040 --> 00:03:42,360 Speaker 1: teams get into the PLAYFFS. That's a hot take. I 68 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:47,000 Speaker 1: think that's all right. Let's get into we do have 69 00:03:47,040 --> 00:03:49,480 Speaker 1: a lot together. We've got trades. We've got trades in 70 00:03:49,520 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 1: addition to our previous show, a lot of good Uh yeah, 71 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,640 Speaker 1: we got some trades by week teams, we have people, 72 00:03:55,640 --> 00:03:58,000 Speaker 1: a lot of people streets talking there into the you'r 73 00:03:58,080 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 1: the GM return episode. So check that out on your podcast, 74 00:04:03,960 --> 00:04:05,880 Speaker 1: would suggest, I would say that would help us clear 75 00:04:05,920 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: your cash and then check it out again. Um, if 76 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,400 Speaker 1: that's how it works. So before we get into the games, 77 00:04:12,600 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 1: and we have two teams on by the Chargers in Chiefs, 78 00:04:15,280 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 1: let's start with the prime time affair and that is 79 00:04:20,080 --> 00:04:23,800 Speaker 1: the off fore mentioned Green Bay Packers at three and four. 80 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:28,599 Speaker 1: How about that? Now they're they're gift for that slow 81 00:04:28,640 --> 00:04:31,880 Speaker 1: start is to go to Orchard Park to face the Bills, who, 82 00:04:32,080 --> 00:04:34,400 Speaker 1: in addition to being the best team in football in 83 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: my opinion, and that of many others are coming off 84 00:04:37,440 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: a bye so they're nice and healthy and rested. Not 85 00:04:40,480 --> 00:04:43,919 Speaker 1: a good sign and also not a good sign. Aaron 86 00:04:44,000 --> 00:04:47,640 Speaker 1: Rodgers on the Pat McVie show, pointing some fingers and 87 00:04:47,680 --> 00:04:51,080 Speaker 1: making some statements in the media to get his message across. 88 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:54,640 Speaker 1: Let's listen to what Rogers had to say. Uh, because 89 00:04:54,720 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 1: this is something I would like to hear from you 90 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:59,240 Speaker 1: boys on guys who are making too many mistakes shouldn't 91 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: be playing. You know, we gotta gotta start cutting some reps. Yeah, 92 00:05:03,400 --> 00:05:09,200 Speaker 1: maybe guys who aren't playing, Uh, give them a chance. Okay, 93 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:11,840 Speaker 1: so let's start there before we get into the game. 94 00:05:12,320 --> 00:05:16,080 Speaker 1: It's obviously Rodgers this is a point of contention for 95 00:05:16,120 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 1: Greg and I think Rodgers is an intelligent man. Um, 96 00:05:19,040 --> 00:05:21,560 Speaker 1: there's nothing that he's doing. This is not accidental that 97 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:23,320 Speaker 1: he's saying it on the show. He knows it becomes 98 00:05:23,360 --> 00:05:26,360 Speaker 1: a huge story. He could have the same exact conversation 99 00:05:26,440 --> 00:05:29,440 Speaker 1: privately with the coaching staff, and he probably did. I 100 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 1: would hope he did. But just the idea that he 101 00:05:31,760 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 1: felt the need to make this statement, I don't know. 102 00:05:34,640 --> 00:05:35,839 Speaker 1: Kind of so it was a little bit mark of 103 00:05:35,839 --> 00:05:39,920 Speaker 1: a schism here where where Rogers sometimes feels like he's 104 00:05:39,960 --> 00:05:41,599 Speaker 1: a kind of above the team a little bit, and 105 00:05:41,640 --> 00:05:43,760 Speaker 1: he gets he has he believes that he's able to 106 00:05:43,800 --> 00:05:47,600 Speaker 1: say these things with no fear of retribution. I'm with 107 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,279 Speaker 1: you with what you just said, and that I have 108 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,800 Speaker 1: no problem at all with Aaron Rodgers feeling this way, 109 00:05:53,240 --> 00:05:55,800 Speaker 1: UM wanting the team to use its roster this way. 110 00:05:55,839 --> 00:05:57,520 Speaker 1: You don't need to go. You go tell the team, 111 00:05:57,680 --> 00:06:00,040 Speaker 1: You tell your most most of the people he's pointing to, 112 00:06:00,440 --> 00:06:03,000 Speaker 1: I think our younger wide receivers, younger players who he 113 00:06:03,040 --> 00:06:05,839 Speaker 1: doesn't feel in sync with. Why are we calling them 114 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:08,479 Speaker 1: out on public television? Why not? Why is this not 115 00:06:08,560 --> 00:06:11,880 Speaker 1: a team thing you're in You're circling the drain here 116 00:06:12,240 --> 00:06:13,960 Speaker 1: as the Green Bay Packers. You've got a lot to 117 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:18,560 Speaker 1: work on. Handle it in in house. That's somebody asked 118 00:06:18,640 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 1: him that question on Wednesday. What like who he was 119 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: referring to. He's saying, is it that he was asked, 120 00:06:23,760 --> 00:06:25,919 Speaker 1: is a good leadership to bring this public when you 121 00:06:25,920 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: could be doing it privately? When he said, he said, 122 00:06:28,000 --> 00:06:30,920 Speaker 1: I did it privately, and he's and he said, I 123 00:06:30,920 --> 00:06:32,400 Speaker 1: don't think it should be a problem for any of 124 00:06:32,400 --> 00:06:35,159 Speaker 1: these guys to hear criticism, and then he said people 125 00:06:35,200 --> 00:06:38,719 Speaker 1: in this society have a hard time hearing truth sometimes, 126 00:06:38,960 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 1: which is an ironic statement, um from Aaron Rodgers based 127 00:06:42,680 --> 00:06:45,440 Speaker 1: on all of the things he said during the pandemic. 128 00:06:45,400 --> 00:06:50,040 Speaker 1: If anybody, if anybody, prefaces a sentence with people in society, 129 00:06:50,080 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: it's like, oh no, yeah, you know where you're going. 130 00:06:53,240 --> 00:06:55,400 Speaker 1: Uh So, there we go. So there's the drama around 131 00:06:55,400 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 1: the Packers and you get you get it. Um. I 132 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:00,520 Speaker 1: believe he had also said, I don't know if it 133 00:07:00,560 --> 00:07:03,160 Speaker 1: was Rogers who pointed out or someone else connected to 134 00:07:03,200 --> 00:07:06,120 Speaker 1: the staff that internally it was his highest graded game 135 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,880 Speaker 1: of the season. That's what That's what bothers me, right, Um. 136 00:07:10,000 --> 00:07:13,880 Speaker 1: And that more obviously, and it's not hard to connect 137 00:07:13,880 --> 00:07:16,640 Speaker 1: the dots here. This is not Aaron Rodgers fault. This 138 00:07:16,760 --> 00:07:19,360 Speaker 1: is the fault of the rest of his team and 139 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:22,840 Speaker 1: the front office decision makers and perhaps his coaching staff. 140 00:07:22,920 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 1: But it's not on errand uh So that is the 141 00:07:25,520 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: that's the backdrop of this three and four team going 142 00:07:27,840 --> 00:07:31,040 Speaker 1: up to Buffalo Greggy against the Bills team that's looking 143 00:07:31,120 --> 00:07:33,720 Speaker 1: to make statement after statement that no one is there equal. 144 00:07:34,000 --> 00:07:36,880 Speaker 1: This could get ugly in prime time. I think it 145 00:07:36,960 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 1: is more likely to get ugly than it is for 146 00:07:40,640 --> 00:07:44,760 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers is uh pep talk after last week's game 147 00:07:44,800 --> 00:07:47,640 Speaker 1: that this maybe is exactly what we need, going to 148 00:07:47,720 --> 00:07:50,360 Speaker 1: Buffalo against this great team and being a big underdog 149 00:07:50,400 --> 00:07:53,880 Speaker 1: and no one believing us, because that implies like we're 150 00:07:53,920 --> 00:07:56,960 Speaker 1: gonna try harder. So a two game losing streak to 151 00:07:57,040 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 1: the two New York teams didn't make you try arder 152 00:08:00,560 --> 00:08:03,560 Speaker 1: in Washington, I don't buy that. And the problem I 153 00:08:03,600 --> 00:08:07,400 Speaker 1: have with his style of leadership is the lack of accountability. 154 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:10,800 Speaker 1: He used the words that other things need to improve 155 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 1: in significant ways and that he needs to play a 156 00:08:14,160 --> 00:08:20,160 Speaker 1: tick better. He literally was separating how other areas of 157 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:22,680 Speaker 1: the team need to improve a lot and when someone said, 158 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:24,640 Speaker 1: well what about you, and he said, well, I need 159 00:08:24,680 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 1: to play a tick better. And that was a week 160 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,320 Speaker 1: ago after the second straight loss. This week he's talking 161 00:08:30,360 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: about how well he's grading. Meanwhile, he's openly criticizing his 162 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:39,439 Speaker 1: head coach, Matt Lafleur for putting negative energy into the atmosphere. 163 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:41,840 Speaker 1: And that's not the manifest station that he wants. It's 164 00:08:41,880 --> 00:08:45,440 Speaker 1: thinking like a loser. And I don't know, man, this 165 00:08:45,520 --> 00:08:48,400 Speaker 1: team just doesn't look like a good team. They're they're 166 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:51,640 Speaker 1: a bad defense and Bak tri by the way, is 167 00:08:51,679 --> 00:08:54,440 Speaker 1: going to be an injury that Matt Lafleur says they'll 168 00:08:54,480 --> 00:08:56,440 Speaker 1: be dealing with the rest of the season, which makes 169 00:08:56,440 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 1: me think he might not be playing in this game. 170 00:08:58,040 --> 00:08:59,920 Speaker 1: I wrote the same thing in my notes, Greg, Aaron 171 00:09:00,040 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: Rodgers accountability. Oh, we're all looking at notes Rogers, Greg, 172 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:13,920 Speaker 1: and on the same party line on that. It's feel 173 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,280 Speaker 1: about that. Yeah, just take the kiss to the next level. 174 00:09:16,280 --> 00:09:18,480 Speaker 1: While you're at it, what are you staring at on 175 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:22,960 Speaker 1: your computer screen. I don't like the matchup at all 176 00:09:23,000 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: for green Bay, no matter what Aaron Rodgers said, because 177 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: I think we taught it would focus so much on 178 00:09:27,679 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 1: Josh Allen and the Bill's offense, which is gonna could 179 00:09:30,040 --> 00:09:32,560 Speaker 1: have a field day against this Green Bay defense. But secondly, 180 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:35,080 Speaker 1: it's their defense what's made to me, which is what 181 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: makes them so complete and special as well they they 182 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: have I think the league wide, you pair their offense 183 00:09:40,920 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: in their defense, there's no one that can touch them. 184 00:09:42,520 --> 00:09:46,280 Speaker 1: They're holding quarterbacks to a seventy one rating, three sacks 185 00:09:46,320 --> 00:09:48,320 Speaker 1: of game. I don't like the situation at all. Four 186 00:09:48,400 --> 00:09:51,280 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers the quarterback, and how it will play against 187 00:09:51,280 --> 00:09:54,559 Speaker 1: the defense that I think could dominate them. They're so discombibulated, 188 00:09:54,920 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: so disorganized, and Aaron Rodgers can be frustrated, but technically 189 00:09:58,320 --> 00:10:00,680 Speaker 1: they're not making it happen on offense at all. They're 190 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 1: not trying to throw it deep, which I think this 191 00:10:02,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: is a tough matchup. Before he only had one completion 192 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:07,120 Speaker 1: over ten plus eight yards last year. I mean last 193 00:10:07,160 --> 00:10:09,480 Speaker 1: week against a team in Washington that gives up a 194 00:10:09,520 --> 00:10:12,080 Speaker 1: ton of big plays, barely any attempts, and then you 195 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,800 Speaker 1: think about that versus a Buffalo defense that's known for 196 00:10:14,840 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: not giving up big plays, known for getting after the quarterback. 197 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: I think he's getting rid of the ball too quickly 198 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: to avoid hits more than Brady. Even last week, I 199 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 1: thought Brady was hanging in there trying to make plays 200 00:10:26,280 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: at least. And Rodgers hasn't been willing to um the 201 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:32,440 Speaker 1: Packers twenty three and scoring entering this game. Nobody would 202 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:37,199 Speaker 1: have predicted that. And the desert has Buffalo laying eleven 203 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:40,720 Speaker 1: and a half points of wood. That's that's crazy. That 204 00:10:40,760 --> 00:10:43,320 Speaker 1: never happened before for Aaron Rodgers. I mean, there's no 205 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,320 Speaker 1: way that's got to be by far the biggest spreaders. 206 00:10:45,559 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: They have injury situations too with box tr Elton Jenkins 207 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: and Alan Lazard, so those are key players for them 208 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:57,120 Speaker 1: to Why are they barely using Aaron Jones and this 209 00:10:57,160 --> 00:10:59,520 Speaker 1: week it's this week might be the toughest match of 210 00:10:59,520 --> 00:11:02,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Jones has all season because Matt Milano to me 211 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:06,280 Speaker 1: is kind of the versatile, speedy running back killer right now, 212 00:11:06,400 --> 00:11:09,439 Speaker 1: Mlano making a push for All Pro And that's the matchup. 213 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 1: And for the record, yes, it was the QB coach 214 00:11:12,720 --> 00:11:18,280 Speaker 1: of the Packers is Tom Clements and he it was 215 00:11:18,320 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers himself who let the media know that it 216 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:24,400 Speaker 1: was his highest graded game. So not good Monday night football. 217 00:11:25,840 --> 00:11:31,360 Speaker 1: I love it. Cincinnati Bengals at Cleveland Browns. Nice little 218 00:11:31,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 1: Ohio off here just shook get Sunday off. Now I 219 00:11:37,600 --> 00:11:42,040 Speaker 1: think he's just Mr Ohio and Mr reassigned. Yeah he's 220 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:46,720 Speaker 1: our af C North Consigliari. But yeah, here's Cincinnati and 221 00:11:47,520 --> 00:11:51,200 Speaker 1: their offense again showed that it is putting it together. 222 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:54,360 Speaker 1: Now the Falcons be seed by injuries in that game, 223 00:11:54,400 --> 00:11:57,520 Speaker 1: but whatever, like this is seeing any team right now 224 00:11:57,600 --> 00:12:00,920 Speaker 1: in two thousand twenty two, starting to separate themselves from 225 00:12:00,960 --> 00:12:03,600 Speaker 1: the competition and and flex their muscles. When I talk 226 00:12:03,640 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 1: about I'd like to see some great teams UM, or 227 00:12:07,000 --> 00:12:10,640 Speaker 1: teams that we acknowledge is good become great. Cincinnati is 228 00:12:10,679 --> 00:12:13,240 Speaker 1: one of those teams, and uh, they should take care 229 00:12:13,280 --> 00:12:16,000 Speaker 1: of business against the Browns team that is really fading 230 00:12:16,000 --> 00:12:20,559 Speaker 1: now um as we head towards there by after this game. 231 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:25,800 Speaker 1: So the amount of throwing greg that we're seeing from Cincinnati, 232 00:12:25,880 --> 00:12:27,880 Speaker 1: I love it. And you've been very vocal in your 233 00:12:27,920 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 1: criticism of Zach Taylor, but I like when a coach 234 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:34,040 Speaker 1: just leans into their strengths. They've spread out their offense, 235 00:12:34,080 --> 00:12:37,760 Speaker 1: they're taking advantage that they have three big time receivers. Uh, 236 00:12:38,040 --> 00:12:41,720 Speaker 1: Joe Burrow operates almost exclusively in shotgun and they are 237 00:12:41,760 --> 00:12:44,439 Speaker 1: just shredding opponents the last couple of weeks. I love it. 238 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:48,960 Speaker 1: I don't know if it's more about the opponent or 239 00:12:49,040 --> 00:12:52,520 Speaker 1: more about the Bengals, but there haven't been many offenses 240 00:12:52,520 --> 00:12:54,760 Speaker 1: that can beat up on bad defenses. The Saints have 241 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:56,800 Speaker 1: given up more big plays than any team in the 242 00:12:56,880 --> 00:13:00,240 Speaker 1: NFL over the last month, and that's who they went after. 243 00:13:00,360 --> 00:13:03,199 Speaker 1: Last week. It was against the thirty second ranked past 244 00:13:03,280 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: defense in terms of the Falcons missing their top two corners, 245 00:13:06,360 --> 00:13:08,960 Speaker 1: who I would argue their best two players. But I 246 00:13:09,040 --> 00:13:12,240 Speaker 1: love that Taylor is willing to lean into that and 247 00:13:12,280 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 1: I think they're gonna be a pass first team. And 248 00:13:15,120 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 1: maybe we don't find out this week because they play 249 00:13:16,960 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: another one of the worst past defenses in the Lake. 250 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:21,280 Speaker 1: But who cares? Like I said, like, that's what good 251 00:13:21,280 --> 00:13:23,480 Speaker 1: teams do, and this I don't just pencil this in 252 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:25,600 Speaker 1: for the Bengals. It's in Cleveland. They've lost four straight 253 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,199 Speaker 1: against the Fanski, so there's something going on with that 254 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,720 Speaker 1: matchup here. And they're owing two in the division this 255 00:13:30,800 --> 00:13:32,880 Speaker 1: year at the Bengals, so if they went to owen three, 256 00:13:33,880 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 1: it would be problematic. I like the Bengals in this game, 257 00:13:36,280 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: but I don't just pencil it in for him. I 258 00:13:38,000 --> 00:13:41,080 Speaker 1: think this Brown's defense is is different and lesser than 259 00:13:41,400 --> 00:13:44,200 Speaker 1: the Browns defenses that Joe Burrow is faced in the past. 260 00:13:44,360 --> 00:13:47,760 Speaker 1: I just think you talked about the Saints and they're 261 00:13:47,880 --> 00:13:50,520 Speaker 1: knack for giving up big plays. The Browns in the 262 00:13:50,600 --> 00:13:53,280 Speaker 1: league and giving up big plays, so you're right, it's hard. 263 00:13:53,400 --> 00:13:55,120 Speaker 1: This is an a litmus test for whether or not 264 00:13:55,160 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 1: the Bengals are back. But I do say that it 265 00:13:57,760 --> 00:14:00,480 Speaker 1: can't just be opponent because the Bengals, they're na. They 266 00:14:00,480 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: did this all last season when they got hot, and 267 00:14:02,480 --> 00:14:04,040 Speaker 1: so we're seeing it again. And if you wipe out 268 00:14:04,080 --> 00:14:07,360 Speaker 1: that Steelers opener and essentially Week two as well. I 269 00:14:07,400 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 1: mean what Burrow has done is top five quarterback play. 270 00:14:10,679 --> 00:14:12,440 Speaker 1: I mean he's been He is the real deal. We 271 00:14:12,520 --> 00:14:14,960 Speaker 1: know that. And with their wide receivers did it all 272 00:14:15,040 --> 00:14:17,040 Speaker 1: last year. They're doing it again now. And I love 273 00:14:17,080 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 1: this situation for Cincinnati. I think they are one of 274 00:14:19,240 --> 00:14:20,760 Speaker 1: the teams you can look at to say, if they 275 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 1: were good, there's a version of them that we might 276 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:24,880 Speaker 1: start to see that puts them in that top four 277 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,640 Speaker 1: or five teams in the league because they're just aren't 278 00:14:26,640 --> 00:14:28,920 Speaker 1: those other teams. But Cleveland is a sitting duck on 279 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,200 Speaker 1: They have not played well on defense in the entire 280 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,720 Speaker 1: season month plus they're getting worse. Burrow is different. There 281 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 1: was a great sideline conversation that the NFL films caught 282 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:41,800 Speaker 1: last week with Burrow and Jamaar Chase, and Chase is 283 00:14:41,840 --> 00:14:43,400 Speaker 1: just like, man, you're just putting it on the money 284 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,920 Speaker 1: right now. Yeah, it's feeling pretty good, and it's just 285 00:14:46,080 --> 00:14:49,360 Speaker 1: very very ho hum. I think Burrow is my favorite 286 00:14:49,360 --> 00:14:51,160 Speaker 1: player in the league. Like I've I've started to like 287 00:14:51,160 --> 00:14:53,000 Speaker 1: watch him in a different level this year where it's 288 00:14:53,000 --> 00:14:56,200 Speaker 1: just like, man, he's special. I like just not just 289 00:14:56,320 --> 00:14:59,640 Speaker 1: that he's has that kind of confidence about him U 290 00:15:00,160 --> 00:15:04,600 Speaker 1: the way he just basically just naturally his ability um 291 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:07,320 Speaker 1: to attack teams and when he gets hot, it's just 292 00:15:07,400 --> 00:15:09,240 Speaker 1: like you could just see it. You can see how 293 00:15:09,280 --> 00:15:12,320 Speaker 1: the entire team lifts around him. And that's what that's 294 00:15:12,360 --> 00:15:16,240 Speaker 1: the epitome of a franchise quarterback. Um, so good, good 295 00:15:16,240 --> 00:15:18,840 Speaker 1: on you Bengals fans. That's the guy everybody wants and 296 00:15:18,880 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: you got him. To just keep him healthy and you 297 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:24,440 Speaker 1: got another twelve fifteen years. Let's hear from the Westling 298 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:29,560 Speaker 1: Brothers from the west side of Cincinnati, because we have 299 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:35,960 Speaker 1: ourselves a lock of the week. Hey, heroes, last week 300 00:15:36,040 --> 00:15:38,680 Speaker 1: you sent me a message saying, hey, be a little 301 00:15:38,720 --> 00:15:42,320 Speaker 1: more concise and taking easier games. Don't take all these 302 00:15:42,360 --> 00:15:45,280 Speaker 1: hard games. Don't take three point favorites, three point underdogs. 303 00:15:45,520 --> 00:15:50,440 Speaker 1: Tell them six and a half point favorite every week. Greg, 304 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:57,960 Speaker 1: how's that mirror looking? But Westling family, we don't hang onions. 305 00:15:58,720 --> 00:16:04,480 Speaker 1: We hang pumpkin. And that's why Monday night, Halloween, we're 306 00:16:04,520 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: one up to Cleveland in the Bengals trick or treating 307 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:14,440 Speaker 1: all night long. There it is. That's how you gotta 308 00:16:14,480 --> 00:16:17,480 Speaker 1: watch us on NFL network or on YouTube to see 309 00:16:17,520 --> 00:16:22,240 Speaker 1: the slow, sexy un zipping of the NFL channel on 310 00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:29,840 Speaker 1: Thursday night, six pm Pacific. N He's got some interference 311 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:33,600 Speaker 1: in my ear. Yeah, something was missing. Oh there it is. 312 00:16:33,640 --> 00:16:36,080 Speaker 1: What's that? Oh? We have a new airing time on 313 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:40,520 Speaker 1: Thursdays for the streaming channel. Beautiful NFL Fast channel. What 314 00:16:40,600 --> 00:16:43,120 Speaker 1: a channel. It is very nice. Um. That was the 315 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:47,440 Speaker 1: best Nick Westling appearance of the season so far. Yeah, 316 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:50,160 Speaker 1: not just because Septy made the Bengals winning this game 317 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: sound like it was like an act of courage. Well, 318 00:16:52,600 --> 00:16:54,720 Speaker 1: you have your own personal issues with Nick now because 319 00:16:54,720 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 1: of the way he came at you there. But I 320 00:16:56,480 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 1: thought it was straight to the point. It had a 321 00:16:58,200 --> 00:17:01,840 Speaker 1: nice pumpkin, so you had the Halloween uh motif. I 322 00:17:02,000 --> 00:17:04,920 Speaker 1: love the lock. I love the lock, and I thought 323 00:17:04,920 --> 00:17:07,639 Speaker 1: about it myself. I didn't go down that road. But 324 00:17:07,720 --> 00:17:11,879 Speaker 1: that that feels good. That feels good, all right, London Curious, 325 00:17:11,920 --> 00:17:14,199 Speaker 1: by the way, if the Browns lose this game. If 326 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: they start selling some pieces at two and six, and 327 00:17:16,640 --> 00:17:19,240 Speaker 1: maybe their defensive coordinator as well, we'll be sold. And 328 00:17:19,280 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: you know, do I have to say it again? If 329 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,280 Speaker 1: you want to hang in that game, try to have 330 00:17:23,359 --> 00:17:25,120 Speaker 1: the ball for thirty eight or forty minutes of game 331 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:26,960 Speaker 1: time and give it to one of the best running 332 00:17:26,960 --> 00:17:28,440 Speaker 1: backs on the planet a lot. And if you're not 333 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:31,439 Speaker 1: gonna use cream Hunt trade, well, we suggested that on 334 00:17:31,480 --> 00:17:34,120 Speaker 1: our our trade show trade right. By the way, did 335 00:17:34,119 --> 00:17:36,960 Speaker 1: you just claim Joe Burrow as your guy because you 336 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:40,400 Speaker 1: said he's your favorite player? If he's my favorite Burrow 337 00:17:40,440 --> 00:17:42,560 Speaker 1: as a guy, But if he's my favorite player, then 338 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,880 Speaker 1: I think he's he's my guy. Let me write this down. 339 00:17:45,000 --> 00:17:47,639 Speaker 1: I don't like that at all, because are we trying 340 00:17:47,680 --> 00:17:49,679 Speaker 1: to I mean, I'm not at all. It's only you 341 00:17:49,720 --> 00:17:52,320 Speaker 1: guys doing this. But Matt Milano was he accounted for 342 00:17:53,000 --> 00:17:57,919 Speaker 1: that official Matt Milan was a guy I've talked about. 343 00:17:57,600 --> 00:18:00,920 Speaker 1: You can't take Mat was a guy. Well he's he's 344 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,800 Speaker 1: giving Matt Milano safe. You can't have a superstar as 345 00:18:03,800 --> 00:18:05,560 Speaker 1: a guy. You cannot have Joe Burrow as a guy. 346 00:18:05,640 --> 00:18:07,680 Speaker 1: Two out of three I say Matt Milano could be 347 00:18:07,720 --> 00:18:12,199 Speaker 1: your guy. Share I'll talk so little car just a 348 00:18:12,200 --> 00:18:17,600 Speaker 1: bit personal foul. It's just a bit and I accept, 349 00:18:17,640 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: I accept that that's what it is. There's a game 350 00:18:19,680 --> 00:18:25,480 Speaker 1: in London and uh it features it features teams playing football. 351 00:18:26,640 --> 00:18:28,640 Speaker 1: Would you like some help? You haven't seen these promos 352 00:18:28,680 --> 00:18:32,399 Speaker 1: all week? Come on, I know there's a there's a 353 00:18:32,440 --> 00:18:34,359 Speaker 1: little glitch in the matrix in the notes. Would you 354 00:18:34,359 --> 00:18:36,639 Speaker 1: like help on who's it is? The Denver Broncos against 355 00:18:36,640 --> 00:18:44,360 Speaker 1: the Jacksonville's Jaguars Sunday, nine thirty am Eastern and see 356 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 1: what we get from the Jaguars. They're more competitive this 357 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,000 Speaker 1: year obviously. Um they nearly beat the Giants if not 358 00:18:50,080 --> 00:18:55,080 Speaker 1: for a goal line tackle by Big Blue. But the 359 00:18:55,119 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 1: story around this game has been Russell Wilson and Russell 360 00:18:58,880 --> 00:19:01,359 Speaker 1: Wilson's availability. He missed the loss of the Jets that 361 00:19:01,480 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 1: they uh what's been labeled as a hamstring tear of 362 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 1: some kind. Uh. Here he was explaining to the media 363 00:19:08,040 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: last week he explained that, uh, you know, he's a 364 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,280 Speaker 1: wolverine and that explained his ability to heal quickly. And 365 00:19:13,320 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 1: then uh, this week he explained what he was doing 366 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:20,000 Speaker 1: on the long flight over the Pond I don't really 367 00:19:20,000 --> 00:19:21,920 Speaker 1: get jet leg too often, you know, I don't. I 368 00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:25,000 Speaker 1: don't really Um, you know, I've traveled enough to to 369 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: get you know, kind of get my system down. But yeah, 370 00:19:27,520 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: for me, I was on the plane first two hours. 371 00:19:29,280 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: I was the first two hours. It was eight hours 372 00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,520 Speaker 1: flight here. The first two hours I was watching the film, 373 00:19:36,000 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 1: getting watching all the cut ups and everything else. And 374 00:19:38,160 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: then for the next four hours I was doing treatment 375 00:19:40,880 --> 00:19:42,200 Speaker 1: on the plane. I was walking up and down the aisles. 376 00:19:42,240 --> 00:19:44,840 Speaker 1: Everybody was knocked out. I was doing high knees and working, 377 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: working on my legs and everything else, you know, make 378 00:19:46,760 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: sure I'm ready to rock. Um. So that was and 379 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: then the last two hours of the last hour of 380 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:54,439 Speaker 1: that I watched I fell asleep for one hour and 381 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:57,240 Speaker 1: I watched the film the rest. So yeah, uh. And 382 00:19:57,400 --> 00:20:00,600 Speaker 1: he is practicing on a limited basis this this week, 383 00:20:01,080 --> 00:20:06,119 Speaker 1: so Mr Limited, Yes, there you go, justin. Um. There's 384 00:20:06,160 --> 00:20:10,560 Speaker 1: a lot of criticism Russell Wilson's way right now, Greggy, 385 00:20:10,600 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: maybe too much. I saw something from Keishan Johnson at 386 00:20:13,240 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: ESPN where he's just bearing him. It's like, alright, enough, Keisha, 387 00:20:16,840 --> 00:20:18,680 Speaker 1: how about we check out what you did during your 388 00:20:18,680 --> 00:20:22,399 Speaker 1: career that turned things towards yourself as well. Speaking of mirrors. 389 00:20:22,440 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 1: But your thoughts on the Russell Wilson situation and what 390 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:28,280 Speaker 1: this could mean for the Broncos is the season continues 391 00:20:28,359 --> 00:20:31,000 Speaker 1: to take on a really weird form. Yeah, we we've 392 00:20:31,000 --> 00:20:32,560 Speaker 1: had our fun I think we're getting to the point 393 00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:35,080 Speaker 1: where I'm starting to feel bad for him. But it's 394 00:20:35,119 --> 00:20:37,360 Speaker 1: his play on the field that's the shocking part. The 395 00:20:37,400 --> 00:20:40,439 Speaker 1: stuff off the field. He's been that guy throughout his career. 396 00:20:40,840 --> 00:20:44,080 Speaker 1: The fact that they've only scored eight offensive touchdowns over 397 00:20:44,119 --> 00:20:48,400 Speaker 1: the course of the season is mind boggling. And this 398 00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:51,359 Speaker 1: is not that tough of a matchup. We thought the 399 00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:55,480 Speaker 1: Jaguars defense was gonna really be something this year. They've 400 00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,480 Speaker 1: fallen apart a little bit the last couple of weeks. 401 00:20:59,240 --> 00:21:02,360 Speaker 1: I think there should be yards to get against this defense. 402 00:21:02,359 --> 00:21:05,520 Speaker 1: Shack Griffin went on injured reserve Trey Herndon struggled last week. 403 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960 Speaker 1: Who came in for him. They've been a very healthy team. 404 00:21:07,960 --> 00:21:10,680 Speaker 1: I've been mentioning Devin Lloyd getting cooked each and every week. 405 00:21:10,680 --> 00:21:13,920 Speaker 1: That happened again against the Giants. So you could try 406 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:16,119 Speaker 1: to match up Melvin Gordon. I guess as you're running 407 00:21:16,119 --> 00:21:19,800 Speaker 1: back or a tight end against him in coverage. Russell 408 00:21:19,840 --> 00:21:23,240 Speaker 1: Wilson hopefully took that week and I don't know, took 409 00:21:23,280 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 1: a took a mental breath and can play a little 410 00:21:26,440 --> 00:21:29,560 Speaker 1: football without being so panicked because he's just playing bad football. 411 00:21:29,600 --> 00:21:31,399 Speaker 1: That's the main part of all this. I find it 412 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,679 Speaker 1: more annoying, UM than these stair stepping walking up and 413 00:21:34,720 --> 00:21:37,000 Speaker 1: down the aisle business thing that he claims to not 414 00:21:37,080 --> 00:21:40,280 Speaker 1: be susceptible to, uh jet leg Unlike you know, I mean, 415 00:21:40,320 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 1: we just went to London. I'm susceptible to jet Leg. 416 00:21:42,680 --> 00:21:45,560 Speaker 1: Dan was calling the Steelers the Pittsburgh Pittsburgh Pirates on 417 00:21:45,560 --> 00:21:48,280 Speaker 1: the Tuesday Show after so let's let's chill on that. 418 00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760 Speaker 1: I you know that I can't imagine that there isn't 419 00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:53,120 Speaker 1: a bit of a schism on the Broncos in terms 420 00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 1: of their defense playing the way that they are. They've 421 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:58,920 Speaker 1: allowed seven touchdowns all season. They're doing everything possible to 422 00:21:59,000 --> 00:22:01,240 Speaker 1: give the offensive chance to win these games, and it's 423 00:22:01,280 --> 00:22:04,840 Speaker 1: not happening because the offense is so disorganized. I wonder 424 00:22:04,840 --> 00:22:07,560 Speaker 1: if Jacksonville can do anything against this defense. I thought 425 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:10,960 Speaker 1: the last week, UM was Trevor Lawrence's best game of 426 00:22:11,040 --> 00:22:13,640 Speaker 1: the season. Maybe his second best game, second or third 427 00:22:13,680 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: best game, wort worst games. No way, he played clean 428 00:22:18,600 --> 00:22:21,480 Speaker 1: and I disagree. I thought he played a clean game 429 00:22:21,520 --> 00:22:23,520 Speaker 1: last week against the Giants. I mean they just they 430 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:28,159 Speaker 1: were ran on so hard by New York relationship. I 431 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:30,119 Speaker 1: just disagree. I thought he might sing with him and 432 00:22:30,359 --> 00:22:32,240 Speaker 1: he saw it on like that last drive on the 433 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,120 Speaker 1: second the last throw he had in the game. How 434 00:22:34,160 --> 00:22:36,680 Speaker 1: many throwers a game does he just miss by seven 435 00:22:36,800 --> 00:22:39,640 Speaker 1: or eight yards. He's doing that in every game though, 436 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: So it's like it's not that this was he does. 437 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:46,240 Speaker 1: He throws high of targets every game that that came 438 00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 1: down to the end. I mean he he also aggressively. 439 00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:50,840 Speaker 1: I thought he converted him fourth and won a big pass. 440 00:22:50,880 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: I think Doug Peterson's trusting him to do more. I 441 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:57,159 Speaker 1: think it's one yard extra. They beat the Giants and 442 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,679 Speaker 1: it's a huge win for the Jaguars. So you know 443 00:23:00,160 --> 00:23:02,199 Speaker 1: that that's that's the way it goes. Sometimes, just to 444 00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,520 Speaker 1: circle back to Wilson, the one thing that Russell Wilson 445 00:23:04,560 --> 00:23:08,280 Speaker 1: I really want to I want to try to understand him, 446 00:23:08,280 --> 00:23:11,119 Speaker 1: and it's tough to understand him. Um, but does he 447 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:15,760 Speaker 1: even have the requisite self awareness to understand the uneven 448 00:23:15,800 --> 00:23:17,920 Speaker 1: ground he stands on right now in his locker room 449 00:23:18,280 --> 00:23:22,200 Speaker 1: the world around him. He just seems so insulated from 450 00:23:22,600 --> 00:23:25,359 Speaker 1: human being stuff that I wonder if he is he 451 00:23:25,480 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: even in the place where there's more urgency in his 452 00:23:27,720 --> 00:23:29,960 Speaker 1: mind or that do I have to make these changes? 453 00:23:30,080 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: Or is he watching the film and not seeing what 454 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:33,760 Speaker 1: other people are seeing. I don't know what's going on 455 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:35,760 Speaker 1: with that, even watching that interview, I mean, I think 456 00:23:35,760 --> 00:23:38,280 Speaker 1: you're look're talking about Aaron Rodgers being a bit detached 457 00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:40,160 Speaker 1: from the rest of the team to some degree, right, 458 00:23:40,240 --> 00:23:42,399 Speaker 1: it's a different type of detachment with Russell Wilson. It 459 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:44,560 Speaker 1: just seems to be uh to clear a balloon up 460 00:23:44,560 --> 00:23:46,640 Speaker 1: in the sky. I don't understand how he can be 461 00:23:46,880 --> 00:23:49,840 Speaker 1: in this mind state after what's occurred so far, and 462 00:23:49,880 --> 00:23:51,720 Speaker 1: I've gotten him this far, I guess is well, how 463 00:23:51,800 --> 00:23:57,760 Speaker 1: he like relentless positivity without necessarily recognizing the realities of 464 00:23:57,920 --> 00:24:00,439 Speaker 1: the situation around him has got him this far, And 465 00:24:00,560 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: so I guess he's still rolling with it and treated 466 00:24:02,400 --> 00:24:04,880 Speaker 1: special for eighteen years now too as a human being, right, 467 00:24:04,920 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 1: and even within the sphere of the NFL, like we 468 00:24:08,000 --> 00:24:11,560 Speaker 1: work here in the NFL network home office is NFL 469 00:24:11,640 --> 00:24:15,520 Speaker 1: Media Headquarters, and there's a right next to our huddle, 470 00:24:15,560 --> 00:24:19,919 Speaker 1: our cafeteria, there's a huge photo of Russell Wilson sitting 471 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,560 Speaker 1: on like a gym like working out, with his hands 472 00:24:22,600 --> 00:24:25,680 Speaker 1: clenched like staring at the camera with a giant word 473 00:24:25,720 --> 00:24:31,000 Speaker 1: across his body, integrity. And it's like this, this image 474 00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,080 Speaker 1: that he's built or has been built around him, it's 475 00:24:34,119 --> 00:24:37,000 Speaker 1: almost like now that the play isn't backing it up, 476 00:24:37,119 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: everything feels so out of whack and strange. And yeah, 477 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 1: you wonder if the side eyes in that Denver locker 478 00:24:43,000 --> 00:24:47,080 Speaker 1: room are going on hyper drive, especially when they see him. 479 00:24:47,240 --> 00:24:49,160 Speaker 1: It's not even close to the level of Aaron Rodgers. 480 00:24:49,160 --> 00:24:51,280 Speaker 1: I wanna make that clear to like, I hated what 481 00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: Rogers did this week with his teammates and the way 482 00:24:53,520 --> 00:24:56,320 Speaker 1: he kind of separated himself. Russell Wilson doesn't do any 483 00:24:56,359 --> 00:24:58,600 Speaker 1: of that completely different. For the most part, He's not 484 00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,080 Speaker 1: harming anyone, which is why that does heels like it's 485 00:25:01,119 --> 00:25:03,560 Speaker 1: too much. What he does do is in an effort 486 00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:07,159 Speaker 1: to show that he's Wolverine. He'll say things like I'm 487 00:25:07,240 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: high stepping through the plane while everyone else is sleeping 488 00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 1: and I don't even think he has the awareness that 489 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:15,280 Speaker 1: he's throwing people under the bus by that comment, whereas Rogers, 490 00:25:15,280 --> 00:25:17,560 Speaker 1: you know, he knows exactly what he's doing. There's a 491 00:25:17,600 --> 00:25:20,159 Speaker 1: lack of precision with Wilson on that comment. Also, you know, 492 00:25:20,200 --> 00:25:22,199 Speaker 1: I do I want to apologize to Mark. You know 493 00:25:22,240 --> 00:25:27,080 Speaker 1: where QB index brothers here, maybe I was Roger. I 494 00:25:27,160 --> 00:25:30,000 Speaker 1: think it's I've reached this point of frustration with Lawrence 495 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:32,280 Speaker 1: that I'm watching this game and I'm just like, I 496 00:25:32,440 --> 00:25:35,000 Speaker 1: just want more, and I feel like he's been put 497 00:25:35,280 --> 00:25:38,600 Speaker 1: at this pedestal from certain QB evaluators and I just 498 00:25:38,640 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: don't see it and I want more. And like last 499 00:25:41,800 --> 00:25:44,439 Speaker 1: week was a game where I watched it and I said, Wow, 500 00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,399 Speaker 1: that game was there for the taking. The new RPO 501 00:25:46,480 --> 00:25:48,520 Speaker 1: stuff they're doing. That's I think that why they traded 502 00:25:48,600 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 1: James Robinson. Is Lawrence running and et N running. It's 503 00:25:52,320 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: fun like and he's good at that sort of thing, 504 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:58,480 Speaker 1: but he to me, he's like a taller tour right now, 505 00:25:58,480 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 1: and I'm just like giving the kid was there for 506 00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:02,639 Speaker 1: the taking and he missed so many throws that it 507 00:26:02,720 --> 00:26:04,679 Speaker 1: was just I reached the point where I was like, 508 00:26:04,840 --> 00:26:08,040 Speaker 1: show me more like what I'm comparing him too was himself, 509 00:26:08,080 --> 00:26:11,120 Speaker 1: not the other quarterbacks, because you're right, we haven't had 510 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: like the two or three game stretch where he's tearing 511 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,359 Speaker 1: it open like Joe Burrow. There's nothing, there's nothing he 512 00:26:16,400 --> 00:26:18,159 Speaker 1: should be. That's what they drafted him for, that's what 513 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 1: we thought he'd become, and he's not there yet because 514 00:26:20,080 --> 00:26:22,760 Speaker 1: the inconsistencies are there every week with him. It would 515 00:26:22,760 --> 00:26:24,960 Speaker 1: be great if he did something against the Broncos defense. 516 00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:27,359 Speaker 1: Can I just as someone on the outside of the 517 00:26:27,440 --> 00:26:32,880 Speaker 1: QB Index universe unsolicited advice like we were saying with 518 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:36,080 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, Greggy, it's okay to have that feeling and 519 00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: to share that criticism behind closed doors, and you could 520 00:26:39,600 --> 00:26:41,399 Speaker 1: have had the conversation with Mark, but to say it 521 00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 1: on the podcast undermines what Mark's trying to do to 522 00:26:45,040 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: establish himself on the QB Index beat. I mean, I 523 00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:51,200 Speaker 1: would rather. I think it's makes for good listening. Conflict 524 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,400 Speaker 1: is just every relationship is different. But there's no one 525 00:26:55,480 --> 00:26:58,800 Speaker 1: that I would battle with more than Chris about these things. 526 00:26:59,160 --> 00:27:01,240 Speaker 1: And it wasn't a lack of respect. Certainly, I think 527 00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,720 Speaker 1: it's showing respect when you disagree that's all. I agree 528 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:08,680 Speaker 1: with what he is agreeing. Oh yes, really kissing cousins 529 00:27:08,720 --> 00:27:12,080 Speaker 1: over here. I see the cracks in the neeor. All right, 530 00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,200 Speaker 1: let's take a break and we'll get to the draft. 531 00:27:17,240 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 1: All right, let's get to the draft. Greg, you have 532 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:25,640 Speaker 1: the first overall pick. I do, And once again, it's 533 00:27:25,640 --> 00:27:28,479 Speaker 1: a week where I don't think there's an obvious great 534 00:27:28,720 --> 00:27:32,920 Speaker 1: first choice. So I'm gonna take the Giants and the 535 00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 1: Seahawks as my first choice because I want to lock 536 00:27:35,560 --> 00:27:37,879 Speaker 1: in a good late game and I really want to 537 00:27:37,920 --> 00:27:39,560 Speaker 1: see that game, and I haven't been able to watch 538 00:27:39,640 --> 00:27:42,720 Speaker 1: the Giants in a live game. I don't think all year. Weirdly, 539 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:45,760 Speaker 1: I wanted him last week. I want this game. In theory, 540 00:27:45,800 --> 00:27:48,560 Speaker 1: it's Gino's revenge game, but really it's a game between 541 00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:51,560 Speaker 1: two of the you know for you're like literally the 542 00:27:51,560 --> 00:27:54,160 Speaker 1: only person that remembers he was on the Giants, including Gino. 543 00:27:54,359 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: I mean, how about John Mara doing him dirty when 544 00:27:56,840 --> 00:27:59,440 Speaker 1: they put him in and Ben McAdoo had the right vision. 545 00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,840 Speaker 1: This guy is better than Eli right now, and he 546 00:28:01,880 --> 00:28:04,359 Speaker 1: went and played a solid game, and then John Mara 547 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 1: comes in and takes him back out of the lineup. 548 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:08,399 Speaker 1: Let's get Eli back in for a year and a half. 549 00:28:08,520 --> 00:28:16,639 Speaker 1: That always well, that always bothered you the way we're 550 00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:20,560 Speaker 1: on the same pot for everyone, Like, why would the 551 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,440 Speaker 1: Giants Greg treat Eli Manning with deference? Oh, let me 552 00:28:24,640 --> 00:28:34,200 Speaker 1: see the point that he after he came in numbers forty? 553 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,680 Speaker 1: It's why is Greg mad about this? Still? Yeah? Why 554 00:28:36,720 --> 00:28:40,360 Speaker 1: does it get under skinny two? Six? Okay? Throwing some 555 00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:43,920 Speaker 1: geno and it's basically like a nuclear bomb in Greg's life. 556 00:28:44,040 --> 00:28:47,400 Speaker 1: I mean, here, here's another couple of numbers, five and four. 557 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:49,720 Speaker 1: That's like the amount of games they want, five and 558 00:28:49,800 --> 00:28:51,640 Speaker 1: three the amount of games they won those two years. 559 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:55,680 Speaker 1: So it's like, anyways, good game, can't you can't wipe 560 00:28:55,720 --> 00:29:00,640 Speaker 1: out the scoreboard of those two Sundays. The main reason 561 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,240 Speaker 1: I think, even if I wasn't a Gino, fans like 562 00:29:02,240 --> 00:29:04,080 Speaker 1: these are two of the most surprising teams in the NFC, 563 00:29:04,120 --> 00:29:05,960 Speaker 1: and I think we're at the point where one or 564 00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,720 Speaker 1: both of them could be in the playoffs. At this point, 565 00:29:08,720 --> 00:29:12,720 Speaker 1: the Giants are favored to make the playoffs. Marcus showing 566 00:29:12,760 --> 00:29:15,600 Speaker 1: me one of his highlighted notes, dan is two biggest 567 00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:18,800 Speaker 1: surprises In the end, I just simply like we're living 568 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:20,600 Speaker 1: in each other's minds at this It's almost like we 569 00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:23,760 Speaker 1: don't need both of you. I don't like that direction. 570 00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:25,800 Speaker 1: I don't like we're going I like this matchup for 571 00:29:25,840 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 1: the Seahawks because of Kenneth Walker. The Giants are dead 572 00:29:29,520 --> 00:29:33,000 Speaker 1: last in the NFL and yards per carry alloud. I 573 00:29:33,040 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: think they're dead last in rushing d v o A 574 00:29:36,280 --> 00:29:39,520 Speaker 1: allowed the way you attack run blitz, I mean blitzing 575 00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:41,640 Speaker 1: in general is with a good running game. They've shown 576 00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:44,440 Speaker 1: major cracks the last couple of weeks, giving up big 577 00:29:44,440 --> 00:29:46,360 Speaker 1: plays in the running game to eat n and I 578 00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:49,240 Speaker 1: think Kenneth Walker and the Seahawks team can mash on 579 00:29:49,280 --> 00:29:51,000 Speaker 1: the ground in addition to Gino. And that's why I'm 580 00:29:51,000 --> 00:29:57,040 Speaker 1: locking this baby up. How about okay? How about that? Alright? 581 00:29:57,080 --> 00:29:59,680 Speaker 1: I like it's always good whenever your opponent's locking with 582 00:29:59,720 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: his I like that you have not been buying into 583 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,880 Speaker 1: the You wouldn't even vote the Giants as being a 584 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 1: good team on Sunday, as I recall. And I'm not 585 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,640 Speaker 1: saying the Giants are a great team, but like we're saying, 586 00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,120 Speaker 1: count off the teams that are better than good right now, 587 00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:16,080 Speaker 1: It's it's a it's a very small they've got something special. 588 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: They believe they're gonna win when they get to the 589 00:30:18,560 --> 00:30:21,840 Speaker 1: fourth quarter and they make all the plays. Style of 590 00:30:21,960 --> 00:30:24,680 Speaker 1: play I think allows that to be something they can 591 00:30:24,760 --> 00:30:27,880 Speaker 1: believe in because they wore down Jacksonville big time last week. 592 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:29,840 Speaker 1: They're running the ball as well as anyone in the league. 593 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,200 Speaker 1: Their quarterback can run for a hundred plus and against 594 00:30:32,240 --> 00:30:34,600 Speaker 1: the Seattle defense. I think it's an interesting lock, Greig, 595 00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 1: because I think the Giants can do what they want 596 00:30:36,680 --> 00:30:38,360 Speaker 1: to do against this defense. I think you're trying to 597 00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,200 Speaker 1: make a statement through your lock, and that's fun. I 598 00:30:40,280 --> 00:30:43,320 Speaker 1: like it. Kenneth Walker, He's definitely looked great. He iced 599 00:30:43,320 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 1: that game with the seventy four yard run, which showed 600 00:30:46,520 --> 00:30:48,600 Speaker 1: that he has burst and how he's got the whole thing. 601 00:30:48,680 --> 00:30:53,360 Speaker 1: You like that. No, DK metcalf most likely in this game, right, Uh, 602 00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:57,000 Speaker 1: he suffered. He's very fortunate. Um it wasn't a ruptured 603 00:30:57,040 --> 00:31:01,720 Speaker 1: pateller tendon, which is a terrible injury for any football player, 604 00:31:01,760 --> 00:31:04,280 Speaker 1: but he he damaged it in some way, so he 605 00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:07,000 Speaker 1: has been practicing. I would not expect him to be 606 00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:09,959 Speaker 1: in this game. So that takes away one of Gino's weapons. 607 00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 1: Gino was good last week, you know, couples up for grabs. 608 00:31:14,960 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: I wonder that Eli comp I gave you earlier in 609 00:31:18,480 --> 00:31:20,240 Speaker 1: the year. I really think there's something. He'll make a 610 00:31:20,240 --> 00:31:22,360 Speaker 1: couple of throws every game where it's like, I completely 611 00:31:22,360 --> 00:31:24,160 Speaker 1: believe in the Geno thing right now. I mean, he's 612 00:31:24,200 --> 00:31:26,880 Speaker 1: just making some incredible I mean, this is his throw 613 00:31:27,040 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 1: is he's having a great season, um, but he is 614 00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:33,200 Speaker 1: not also above throwing the ball up for grabs. And 615 00:31:33,280 --> 00:31:36,160 Speaker 1: he's right now been uh living a charmed year in 616 00:31:36,200 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: some ways. I just wonder if he comes down to 617 00:31:38,080 --> 00:31:41,440 Speaker 1: earth a little bit in this game against Wink Martindale, 618 00:31:41,440 --> 00:31:44,760 Speaker 1: who might have something cooked up for Gino to frazzle 619 00:31:44,800 --> 00:31:46,640 Speaker 1: him a little bit because he deserves the benefit of 620 00:31:46,680 --> 00:31:49,200 Speaker 1: the doubt, because who's getting more out of their team, 621 00:31:49,400 --> 00:31:52,400 Speaker 1: uh than Wink Martindale right now? On that defense? How 622 00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 1: about um Jane Waldron on the other side of the thing, 623 00:31:55,160 --> 00:31:57,000 Speaker 1: was we never we never bring him up. And yeah, 624 00:31:57,000 --> 00:31:59,240 Speaker 1: their defense, we didn't talk about it much, but they 625 00:31:59,240 --> 00:32:01,440 Speaker 1: tried to transition into a three four defense. They did 626 00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,960 Speaker 1: transition to a three ft defense, very different from what 627 00:32:04,000 --> 00:32:07,040 Speaker 1: Pete Carroll has done for the last ten eleven years 628 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:08,680 Speaker 1: and you saw some growing pains, and now I do 629 00:32:08,760 --> 00:32:11,240 Speaker 1: think you're seeing improvement as a Seahawks fan. Now that's 630 00:32:11,280 --> 00:32:14,600 Speaker 1: basically what I am. I'm you're not a Patriots fan anymore. 631 00:32:14,640 --> 00:32:17,440 Speaker 1: Probably I'm a Patriot. I can be both. He's fan 632 00:32:17,480 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: of like twelve other teams too. I'll let you know what. 633 00:32:19,880 --> 00:32:23,840 Speaker 1: They're definitely top two right now? Was your favorite team 634 00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: the Patriots? Okay, but actually, like the minute New England 635 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:31,280 Speaker 1: stops producing Lombardi trophies, Greg's on the fence. I mean 636 00:32:31,360 --> 00:32:33,040 Speaker 1: I told you that at the time. It wasn't a 637 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:36,360 Speaker 1: popular opinion with that's anyone I said. When Tom Brady leaves, 638 00:32:36,400 --> 00:32:39,040 Speaker 1: it's never gonna feel there isn't There isn't a poster 639 00:32:39,120 --> 00:32:41,120 Speaker 1: of Greg's face with integrity up in our next to 640 00:32:41,120 --> 00:32:44,800 Speaker 1: our huddle. Jones Daniel Jones is playing much more common 641 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: the pocket, but they will be short too offensive lineman here. 642 00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: I like the way Daniel Jones is playing like a 643 00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:53,360 Speaker 1: just not as skittish, but they are short too offensive 644 00:32:53,360 --> 00:32:55,560 Speaker 1: linemen and their starting tight end, so they have some injuries. 645 00:32:55,640 --> 00:32:57,800 Speaker 1: That's funny because they when they went out those alignment 646 00:32:57,880 --> 00:32:59,880 Speaker 1: last game, it didn't stop what the Giants did or 647 00:33:00,120 --> 00:33:04,240 Speaker 1: they did it. They also will be without Kadarius Tony, 648 00:33:04,280 --> 00:33:06,920 Speaker 1: who was traded to the Kansas City Chiefs right before 649 00:33:06,920 --> 00:33:10,600 Speaker 1: the show transition A transitioning to the three four defense. 650 00:33:10,680 --> 00:33:14,480 Speaker 1: Le'll transition to a news item right there. Wonderful. He's 651 00:33:14,520 --> 00:33:19,320 Speaker 1: been doing this for a long time and people should know. Um. 652 00:33:19,440 --> 00:33:21,840 Speaker 1: I also have my notes here if you want to 653 00:33:21,880 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: get a tight shot on this if you can, um, 654 00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: Giant Seahawks good not bad, open parenthetical, surprise closed parenthetical. 655 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:33,240 Speaker 1: So that incredible insight you guys had that you shared 656 00:33:33,280 --> 00:33:37,000 Speaker 1: in your notes. I also had a written down football 657 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:43,240 Speaker 1: Insider thank you. We're operating in concert because because I mean, 658 00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:47,280 Speaker 1: it is quite a note. Surprisingly good. Uh, they because 659 00:33:47,280 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: we don't have the Chiefs in this show. Uh, we 660 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:51,040 Speaker 1: should mention this is a big trade for them. A 661 00:33:51,120 --> 00:33:53,640 Speaker 1: third round compensatory pick. So that's at the very end 662 00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:56,200 Speaker 1: of the draft, at the end of the third round, 663 00:33:56,200 --> 00:33:58,400 Speaker 1: but it's still a third round pick. They got it 664 00:33:58,480 --> 00:34:02,640 Speaker 1: in the Ryan Pole Goes to Chicago deal where you 665 00:34:02,680 --> 00:34:08,080 Speaker 1: now get compensatory picks for developing minority candidates for GM 666 00:34:08,280 --> 00:34:11,040 Speaker 1: or or coaching jobs, and a sixth round pick. They 667 00:34:11,080 --> 00:34:14,320 Speaker 1: have him for three more years. Yes, he can't stay healthy. 668 00:34:14,600 --> 00:34:17,239 Speaker 1: He's been a little bit of a troubling player for 669 00:34:17,239 --> 00:34:21,319 Speaker 1: the Giants to manage. But he is incredibly dynamic, and 670 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:24,120 Speaker 1: it's exciting to think of a player incredibly dynamic in 671 00:34:24,120 --> 00:34:27,240 Speaker 1: that chief system. It could wind up being a great 672 00:34:27,280 --> 00:34:30,120 Speaker 1: move to me, he's a much better version of McCall 673 00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:32,239 Speaker 1: Hardman if he stayed healthy. You tend to trust that 674 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,160 Speaker 1: Andy Reid and the Chiefs will find a way to 675 00:34:34,200 --> 00:34:36,439 Speaker 1: make this work better than what it's more than a yeah, 676 00:34:36,520 --> 00:34:39,840 Speaker 1: like a flyer for the Chiefs, because that's that's a 677 00:34:39,960 --> 00:34:42,480 Speaker 1: real picks that they gave up. I guess in three 678 00:34:42,560 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 1: years of him too like and it's better certainly than 679 00:34:47,160 --> 00:34:48,719 Speaker 1: like the last couple of years where it was like 680 00:34:48,840 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: up the Chiefs have signed Josh Gordon. Can we please uh? 681 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,600 Speaker 1: This is is a player with an exciting high ceiling 682 00:34:57,680 --> 00:34:59,960 Speaker 1: that was selected by a different regime in New York? 683 00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:02,719 Speaker 1: Can that would be the only thing quickly wore out 684 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 1: as welcome? But maybe in the structure of Kansas City 685 00:35:05,640 --> 00:35:08,920 Speaker 1: and what they've built there. But we know everybody's loving 686 00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 1: the dable Giants Joe Shane Earra so far, and they 687 00:35:12,600 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 1: didn't seem to like them or feel like they needed 688 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:17,680 Speaker 1: him around. So yeah, they who knows them better than 689 00:35:17,719 --> 00:35:19,239 Speaker 1: the Giants. So we'll see what the Chiefs can do. 690 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,000 Speaker 1: All right, let's move to the second pick. It would 691 00:35:22,040 --> 00:35:25,120 Speaker 1: be Mark Sessler. Well, this is easy for me, and 692 00:35:25,160 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: I'm glad it's still sitting here. I didn't think it 693 00:35:26,719 --> 00:35:30,080 Speaker 1: would be. But I'm gonna take Niners at Rams, and 694 00:35:30,280 --> 00:35:32,200 Speaker 1: I think we've kind of just assumed that the Rams 695 00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:35,120 Speaker 1: are going to fix the problems. Uh, I'm not so 696 00:35:35,160 --> 00:35:37,400 Speaker 1: sure about that one, because I think their issues obviously 697 00:35:37,440 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: are along the offensive line. You've now have Joe note 698 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:42,320 Speaker 1: Boom out of the mix. It does sound like Brian 699 00:35:42,360 --> 00:35:44,160 Speaker 1: Allen the center will be back, which is which is 700 00:35:44,200 --> 00:35:47,720 Speaker 1: big for Matthew Stafford because when they faced the Niners 701 00:35:47,800 --> 00:35:50,400 Speaker 1: last time, that's when they lost them. And you're dealing 702 00:35:50,440 --> 00:35:53,560 Speaker 1: with Matthew Stafford and a center he had never played 703 00:35:53,560 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: with even in practice, and and Stafford having to call 704 00:35:56,280 --> 00:35:59,319 Speaker 1: protections at the line. That game turns so chaotic, and 705 00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 1: it was just an other notation in the Niners Rams 706 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,080 Speaker 1: confrontations where the Niners just have simply dominated the Rams. 707 00:36:06,080 --> 00:36:09,080 Speaker 1: It's got to annoy Sean McVeigh to such a high 708 00:36:09,400 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 1: level to be dominated by Kyle Shanahan this way. I 709 00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,520 Speaker 1: think this is l a season right here. If you 710 00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,040 Speaker 1: lose this thing, I do because I know, I understand 711 00:36:17,040 --> 00:36:19,600 Speaker 1: they're in a bad division. I understand they're in a 712 00:36:19,640 --> 00:36:22,120 Speaker 1: bad division. But if you get dominated by the Niners again, 713 00:36:22,200 --> 00:36:25,120 Speaker 1: I I wonder if it trades, it changes their complexion 714 00:36:25,120 --> 00:36:27,279 Speaker 1: on who they might trade for trade deadlinelines or who 715 00:36:27,280 --> 00:36:29,720 Speaker 1: they might give away um and what they do. I 716 00:36:29,719 --> 00:36:31,920 Speaker 1: I get that you're still alive, but I would have 717 00:36:32,120 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: a tough time believing in a Rams team that cannot 718 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:37,919 Speaker 1: get this past this team and I and I don't 719 00:36:37,920 --> 00:36:39,719 Speaker 1: know if what their problems are, if they're fixable. I 720 00:36:39,719 --> 00:36:41,239 Speaker 1: just don't know if they're fixable. Yeah, I need to 721 00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:44,360 Speaker 1: see it. I I don't assume they're gonna fix everything. 722 00:36:44,400 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: I don't think they'll turn into sellers or not be 723 00:36:46,640 --> 00:36:49,439 Speaker 1: as aggressive if they lost this game, they're gonna maybe 724 00:36:49,480 --> 00:36:51,759 Speaker 1: be more aggressive or just as aggressive, because I just 725 00:36:51,800 --> 00:36:54,040 Speaker 1: think they're they're all in and that's what they do. 726 00:36:54,320 --> 00:36:56,400 Speaker 1: And wouldn't surprise me to see them pick up a receiver, 727 00:36:56,680 --> 00:36:59,080 Speaker 1: maybe Brandon Cooks when Mike Garret follow threw that out 728 00:36:59,080 --> 00:37:02,040 Speaker 1: on Tuesday's show that like old teams still like them. 729 00:37:02,080 --> 00:37:05,600 Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, that's specific, and that's about right. They're limited, 730 00:37:05,640 --> 00:37:08,319 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and Rams. Yeah, they're limited in terms of 731 00:37:08,360 --> 00:37:11,160 Speaker 1: their assets draft assets because they've traded so much in 732 00:37:11,200 --> 00:37:14,200 Speaker 1: recent years. But they'll find a way and they will 733 00:37:14,640 --> 00:37:17,520 Speaker 1: add somebody. That's what this this Rams regime is all about. 734 00:37:17,640 --> 00:37:19,600 Speaker 1: And they see that the NFC West has been hugely 735 00:37:19,600 --> 00:37:22,960 Speaker 1: disappointing themselves, included the divisions there, which means there's a 736 00:37:22,960 --> 00:37:25,560 Speaker 1: path even if you don't get to buy this year. Uh, 737 00:37:25,600 --> 00:37:28,360 Speaker 1: there's a path to a home game and and in 738 00:37:28,400 --> 00:37:30,640 Speaker 1: the playoffs and then who knows, you get hot. So 739 00:37:30,680 --> 00:37:32,920 Speaker 1: they're gonna make a move. It just depends what it is, 740 00:37:32,960 --> 00:37:36,160 Speaker 1: whether it's adding a lineman, offensive lineman, a pass rusher, 741 00:37:36,239 --> 00:37:38,560 Speaker 1: or wide receiver, maybe all three. I don't put anything 742 00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:41,360 Speaker 1: past them. They're hyper aggressive. It does help Van Jefferson 743 00:37:41,480 --> 00:37:43,920 Speaker 1: is healthy again too, so it sounds like he so 744 00:37:44,040 --> 00:37:46,080 Speaker 1: he will play. And I think they made a little 745 00:37:46,080 --> 00:37:49,400 Speaker 1: bit of a change in the game against the Panthers 746 00:37:49,400 --> 00:37:53,280 Speaker 1: that's worth watching. Stafford was ten for ten under center 747 00:37:53,320 --> 00:37:55,719 Speaker 1: in that game for a hundred and forty two yards 748 00:37:55,719 --> 00:37:58,560 Speaker 1: in a touchdown. The second half of that game I 749 00:37:58,560 --> 00:38:01,319 Speaker 1: thought was the best half They're off fence had all year. 750 00:38:01,960 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: And under center is more the old school Rams, it's 751 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:10,040 Speaker 1: the Jared Goff Rams play actions, simplify things, make it 752 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:13,319 Speaker 1: a little easier on the quarterback and maybe on the 753 00:38:13,360 --> 00:38:16,000 Speaker 1: offensive line as well. And he played well in that 754 00:38:16,040 --> 00:38:19,040 Speaker 1: scenario because one thing we've been hesitant to do on 755 00:38:19,040 --> 00:38:21,880 Speaker 1: this show is criticized Stafford too much because of the situation. 756 00:38:22,239 --> 00:38:24,800 Speaker 1: But he has one of the worst grades on PFF, 757 00:38:25,320 --> 00:38:28,919 Speaker 1: one of the worst um numbers from any metrics. When 758 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:32,120 Speaker 1: he has a clean pocket, he hasn't just struggled when 759 00:38:32,120 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: the offensive line struggled, He's just struggled. And that game 760 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:39,080 Speaker 1: against the forty nine is obviously was probably the deer 761 00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:44,600 Speaker 1: it was. I think there's some for me anyway, the 762 00:38:44,680 --> 00:38:47,399 Speaker 1: idea that it was then the deer. I do like that. 763 00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,480 Speaker 1: You know Greg planned that line. I totally did not. 764 00:38:50,560 --> 00:38:56,120 Speaker 1: You think I I built in some accident forgiveness with 765 00:38:56,160 --> 00:38:59,680 Speaker 1: Stafford because remember how lost they were last November and 766 00:38:59,680 --> 00:39:03,480 Speaker 1: then or hoisted Lombardi and he's playing at a superstar 767 00:39:03,600 --> 00:39:06,400 Speaker 1: level in the postseason h or in the Super Bowl. 768 00:39:06,760 --> 00:39:09,439 Speaker 1: Uh So I'm not ready to bail. I don't think 769 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:12,320 Speaker 1: this is a winner, or you're in your screwed situation, 770 00:39:12,400 --> 00:39:16,120 Speaker 1: but I think it could reshape their season if they could, 771 00:39:16,360 --> 00:39:19,680 Speaker 1: you know, get one on Kyle and also build on 772 00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:22,479 Speaker 1: the end of their previous game against Caroline, and because 773 00:39:22,480 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 1: they really did look like the Rams at the end 774 00:39:24,200 --> 00:39:26,839 Speaker 1: in that Carolina game. Though, I will note that that, 775 00:39:26,880 --> 00:39:29,720 Speaker 1: like Christian McCaffrey, here we go prime time, the Niners 776 00:39:29,719 --> 00:39:31,319 Speaker 1: have another week to kind of bake him into the plan. 777 00:39:31,400 --> 00:39:33,360 Speaker 1: Here a hundred and fifty eight scrimmage yards against that 778 00:39:33,440 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 1: Rams defense with a bad Panthers offense, So I would 779 00:39:36,680 --> 00:39:38,440 Speaker 1: like to see what um impact he has. Again, I 780 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,080 Speaker 1: think they're gonna use them in a ton of different ways. 781 00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:42,120 Speaker 1: You mentioned how the forty Niners owned them, and the 782 00:39:42,120 --> 00:39:44,640 Speaker 1: forty Niners are coming off a very humbling loss for 783 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,040 Speaker 1: a team that thought they were going to be all 784 00:39:46,080 --> 00:39:48,080 Speaker 1: about defense. I know the Chiefs are good on offense, 785 00:39:48,120 --> 00:39:50,399 Speaker 1: but they made the Chiefs look better on offense than 786 00:39:50,440 --> 00:39:52,960 Speaker 1: anyone I guess in Week one and in the Cardinals. 787 00:39:53,719 --> 00:39:55,799 Speaker 1: The forty Niners have won seven out of their last 788 00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:58,760 Speaker 1: eight against the Rams. Now, the one that they lost 789 00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,880 Speaker 1: was the biggest one the NFC impiship. But even that 790 00:40:00,960 --> 00:40:04,880 Speaker 1: game took Jimmy Garoppolo with a shoulder that required surgery 791 00:40:05,000 --> 00:40:08,680 Speaker 1: and a ten point fourth quarter comeback. So they just 792 00:40:09,000 --> 00:40:12,400 Speaker 1: have the Rams number. It's a fair statement, and I 793 00:40:12,400 --> 00:40:14,239 Speaker 1: I thought about locking this game up, but that just 794 00:40:14,280 --> 00:40:19,920 Speaker 1: felt hurtful to uh, to my daughter Ellis. She watches 795 00:40:20,080 --> 00:40:23,800 Speaker 1: game debut. Everyone should check this out on on Friday afternoons. 796 00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: But they watch it and uh, they don't like it. 797 00:40:26,840 --> 00:40:28,560 Speaker 1: She doesn't like it when I picked the Rams, but 798 00:40:28,600 --> 00:40:30,080 Speaker 1: you know you hear about it. I still will. I 799 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:31,840 Speaker 1: guess you wouldn't have known I locked them up. I 800 00:40:31,880 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: was going to say, that's an interesting Conundram, you put 801 00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,000 Speaker 1: yourself in because she's probably not gonna hear this, right, 802 00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:41,120 Speaker 1: that's a good point. You also have noted still I'm 803 00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,320 Speaker 1: picking the forty niners, but it just felt mean to 804 00:40:44,040 --> 00:40:46,239 Speaker 1: go against the homestead. Emmaca has become a pretty big 805 00:40:46,280 --> 00:40:48,560 Speaker 1: Rams fan too, you know, but you've noted that your wife, 806 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:51,160 Speaker 1: Emmaca has never listened to one episode of our podcast, 807 00:40:51,640 --> 00:40:54,200 Speaker 1: so it would require your daughter pretty We're pretty well 808 00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:57,560 Speaker 1: covered here, Greggy. We played thirty seconds of the show 809 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:00,080 Speaker 1: once in the car and and there's like, no do 810 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:02,360 Speaker 1: you think would be her favorite UM cast member on 811 00:41:02,360 --> 00:41:04,759 Speaker 1: the show if she were to listen to more than 812 00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:07,560 Speaker 1: thirty seconds? She married me? She married me? You know, 813 00:41:09,719 --> 00:41:11,440 Speaker 1: I don't think that would be a guaranteed it's great. 814 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:14,600 Speaker 1: So you think it's you know, I'm just saying that 815 00:41:14,840 --> 00:41:19,520 Speaker 1: two other people, like Greg the person and that Mark 816 00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,480 Speaker 1: and he's never listened to the show before and we 817 00:41:23,520 --> 00:41:26,319 Speaker 1: haven't been in Gregg's house in almost ten years. Well, 818 00:41:26,360 --> 00:41:28,120 Speaker 1: I'd be able to listen to show because she doesn't 819 00:41:28,560 --> 00:41:30,640 Speaker 1: about football, and the last thing she wants to do 820 00:41:30,880 --> 00:41:34,000 Speaker 1: is hear me talk more. Can you imagine living with me? 821 00:41:34,480 --> 00:41:36,480 Speaker 1: That's why I don't think she'd I think she'd like 822 00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: to have a break from you and more Dana. Mark, 823 00:41:39,719 --> 00:41:41,840 Speaker 1: maybe not not, honey, I'm going to Japan for another 824 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:46,000 Speaker 1: seven months. I'll see you in the summer. I just 825 00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:48,160 Speaker 1: feel like you guys have a pretty healthy marriage overall. 826 00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:50,360 Speaker 1: Though now it's healthy. Yeah, it's good. I didn't know 827 00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:52,960 Speaker 1: that's that was kind of a new revelation from Mark 828 00:41:52,200 --> 00:41:55,480 Speaker 1: Well that you might not be her favorite person on 829 00:41:55,480 --> 00:41:58,520 Speaker 1: the podcast. I didn't make a statement. I'm just saying 830 00:41:58,520 --> 00:42:00,640 Speaker 1: it's an it's out there as a I think that 831 00:42:00,719 --> 00:42:05,239 Speaker 1: as a bit. Let's move to the third pick. It's 832 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,600 Speaker 1: the old Zeuser's pick, and I will go with the 833 00:42:08,640 --> 00:42:13,960 Speaker 1: Arizona Cardinals traveling to Minneapolis, Minneapolis to face the Minnesota Vikings. 834 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:17,120 Speaker 1: How dare you who always feels good to hurt your 835 00:42:17,120 --> 00:42:22,640 Speaker 1: friends in this exercise? The Vikings coming off of by 836 00:42:22,920 --> 00:42:26,480 Speaker 1: five and one, and you'd say, okay, there you go. Well, Dan, 837 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,359 Speaker 1: you're looking for great teams. There's five and one team 838 00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:33,719 Speaker 1: Vikings right now. We're not great. They're pretty good. They've 839 00:42:33,719 --> 00:42:37,200 Speaker 1: been good at closing games. The schedule overall has been 840 00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,759 Speaker 1: pretty forgiving. I mean, you got here's their wins Green 841 00:42:40,840 --> 00:42:43,799 Speaker 1: Bay week one, and now we know means lest they 842 00:42:43,840 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 1: got waxed by Philly and prime time barely beat the Lions. 843 00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:52,239 Speaker 1: That was a game. They were outplayed completely for most 844 00:42:52,280 --> 00:42:56,359 Speaker 1: of the game. Right, Uh lost to New Orleans by 845 00:42:56,400 --> 00:42:59,200 Speaker 1: a field goal, and then beat Chicago by seven and 846 00:42:59,239 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 1: beat Miami with a third string quarterback by eight. So 847 00:43:03,560 --> 00:43:06,279 Speaker 1: he beat New Orleans in London. We were there, You 848 00:43:06,320 --> 00:43:09,799 Speaker 1: were there, says l What is going on here? I thought? 849 00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:12,040 Speaker 1: So it was? That was the Will Lutts double join game. 850 00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:17,120 Speaker 1: What's going on here? We go Arizona Cardinals, now coming 851 00:43:17,160 --> 00:43:19,919 Speaker 1: off a game where they put up they did right am? 852 00:43:19,920 --> 00:43:21,719 Speaker 1: I am? I going crazy? I mean I don't. I 853 00:43:21,719 --> 00:43:24,920 Speaker 1: don't feel the need to, you know, put yeah, the 854 00:43:25,000 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: blame on them there. I didn't put the blame on anybody. 855 00:43:27,400 --> 00:43:34,120 Speaker 1: I'm just that if Johnny from research, Drew Drew Christensen, 856 00:43:34,160 --> 00:43:35,640 Speaker 1: who's in the back here used to work in the starch, 857 00:43:35,680 --> 00:43:37,320 Speaker 1: if he happened to be the person that put together 858 00:43:37,800 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: this page and happens to be a fan and who 859 00:43:39,840 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 1: was listening, he's dying inside right now. Maybe, But I 860 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,479 Speaker 1: just did I think you did. I want to say 861 00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:49,920 Speaker 1: that the NFL media research team is incredible to do 862 00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:52,400 Speaker 1: an excellent job, and I love their work and I 863 00:43:52,560 --> 00:43:55,600 Speaker 1: use it constantly in the ramp up to each week's 864 00:43:55,640 --> 00:43:59,600 Speaker 1: extremely In this case, they got banged a little bit. 865 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:02,400 Speaker 1: But that's my problem. I was at the game in London. 866 00:44:02,920 --> 00:44:05,520 Speaker 1: I shouldn't have stumbled on that, Yeah, this this is 867 00:44:05,560 --> 00:44:07,959 Speaker 1: something that also could have been handled um in house. First. 868 00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,680 Speaker 1: It's that was more. Yeah, it was kind of like 869 00:44:10,719 --> 00:44:12,520 Speaker 1: in real time it was all happening. I was spinning. 870 00:44:12,560 --> 00:44:14,520 Speaker 1: I could see you are reacting to in real time 871 00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:16,799 Speaker 1: because it didn't make sense in my head even right 872 00:44:17,000 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: and I'm staring at that red l and when we 873 00:44:19,719 --> 00:44:21,600 Speaker 1: did have jet lag coming back for it could have 874 00:44:21,640 --> 00:44:24,440 Speaker 1: been unlike Russell Wells, like something we could maybe have 875 00:44:24,560 --> 00:44:28,200 Speaker 1: been false susceptible to. And that was our cards. All right, 876 00:44:28,280 --> 00:44:30,840 Speaker 1: let's move on. No, So the Cardinals the reason I 877 00:44:30,920 --> 00:44:32,760 Speaker 1: took this game. The Cardinals had not been my favorite 878 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:35,319 Speaker 1: team to watch this year in general. The regime is 879 00:44:35,320 --> 00:44:39,200 Speaker 1: not uh something that I believe in. And yet the 880 00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:42,640 Speaker 1: Thursday night game was interesting to me because you had 881 00:44:42,719 --> 00:44:47,320 Speaker 1: them uh scoring points, you had them getting two big 882 00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:51,280 Speaker 1: defensive plays to change that game um against Andy Dalton 883 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:53,799 Speaker 1: and the Saints. And then I also liked in the 884 00:44:53,840 --> 00:44:56,920 Speaker 1: second half after those two pick six is at the 885 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,520 Speaker 1: end of the second quarter changed the game the way 886 00:45:00,520 --> 00:45:04,360 Speaker 1: every time the same showed signs of life. The Arizona 887 00:45:04,360 --> 00:45:06,840 Speaker 1: offense said no, no, no no, no, let's chill out. The 888 00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:09,719 Speaker 1: game's over. It was over then and it's still over. 889 00:45:10,160 --> 00:45:13,480 Speaker 1: And that was the final score with some lipstick on 890 00:45:13,520 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: the pig to make it look that close. So the Cardinals, 891 00:45:16,160 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 1: maybe coming out of their phone, maybe a team that's 892 00:45:19,200 --> 00:45:22,640 Speaker 1: ready to make a statement against a five and one 893 00:45:22,680 --> 00:45:26,800 Speaker 1: Minnesota squad that record aside is a little more vulnerable. 894 00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:30,120 Speaker 1: I like this set up if and I put put 895 00:45:30,120 --> 00:45:33,920 Speaker 1: a lot on on Cliff and Kyler two sees on 896 00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,560 Speaker 1: this moment to kind of get their season really on 897 00:45:36,640 --> 00:45:38,880 Speaker 1: track if they can get this win. But they've let 898 00:45:38,960 --> 00:45:41,560 Speaker 1: us down uh many times in the past when we 899 00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:43,040 Speaker 1: thought they were in a good spot to make a 900 00:45:43,239 --> 00:45:45,440 Speaker 1: make a big statement. They also have a couple of 901 00:45:45,440 --> 00:45:48,719 Speaker 1: offensive line injuries that are very concerning. D Rodney Hudson's 902 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:51,640 Speaker 1: been out. We know they lost justin Pew. I noticed 903 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:55,840 Speaker 1: beach Ham was out of practice. That that makes me worried, 904 00:45:55,920 --> 00:45:58,239 Speaker 1: but I think they're making up for it with the 905 00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:01,240 Speaker 1: design runs for Kyler Murray. It is funny that Kyler 906 00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,799 Speaker 1: Murray told the broadcast crew two weeks ago, you know, 907 00:46:03,800 --> 00:46:06,040 Speaker 1: I think we want to start running again, like almost 908 00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:08,080 Speaker 1: like he's the coach. And then he has and it's 909 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,360 Speaker 1: it's totally transformed their offense. I there's no more Cardinals 910 00:46:12,400 --> 00:46:16,320 Speaker 1: experience to me than them having finally the offensive output 911 00:46:16,320 --> 00:46:17,680 Speaker 1: in the kind of game that we were hoping that 912 00:46:17,760 --> 00:46:19,520 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins had a lot to do with that, but 913 00:46:20,160 --> 00:46:23,920 Speaker 1: nestled around Kyler Murray shouting at Cliff Kingsbury, Like there 914 00:46:24,000 --> 00:46:26,400 Speaker 1: is a weirdness to the makeup of this team in 915 00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:28,799 Speaker 1: so many different ways. That said, I think that the 916 00:46:28,800 --> 00:46:31,799 Speaker 1: DeAndre Hopkins thing um is a week to week gain 917 00:46:31,880 --> 00:46:33,839 Speaker 1: for them. I I just I think that the way 918 00:46:33,880 --> 00:46:35,680 Speaker 1: they used them all over the place last week, and 919 00:46:35,680 --> 00:46:38,640 Speaker 1: if you get Robbie Anderson up to speed here and 920 00:46:38,640 --> 00:46:41,759 Speaker 1: at some point you get Hollywood brown Back and Rondale Moore. 921 00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:43,880 Speaker 1: I I kind of just liked the weapons around Kyler 922 00:46:43,920 --> 00:46:45,560 Speaker 1: Murray more than the one thing is. And I don't 923 00:46:45,600 --> 00:46:46,560 Speaker 1: like to do this too much, but if you look 924 00:46:46,600 --> 00:46:48,960 Speaker 1: at their schedule down the stretch, they played the easier 925 00:46:48,960 --> 00:46:51,480 Speaker 1: part of their schedule, it is brutal. They're gonna have 926 00:46:51,520 --> 00:46:54,080 Speaker 1: to be about as organized as possible. Yeah, I don't. 927 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:55,960 Speaker 1: I don't love them in this spot. I trust the 928 00:46:56,040 --> 00:46:58,920 Speaker 1: Vikings more. You're you're right about DeAndre moving around like 929 00:46:58,960 --> 00:47:03,960 Speaker 1: the h exgen stats route charts Kings like Josh Norris 930 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:05,839 Speaker 1: who loves sending those out, Notice how they were using 931 00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:08,800 Speaker 1: them a lot more um creatively, I was trying to 932 00:47:08,840 --> 00:47:11,040 Speaker 1: figure out how are the Vikings five and one just 933 00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,080 Speaker 1: like did a little deep dive at all their different 934 00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:15,239 Speaker 1: numbers and won five games and lost one, And I 935 00:47:15,280 --> 00:47:18,520 Speaker 1: did I did find something interesting. Every single bit of 936 00:47:18,560 --> 00:47:22,640 Speaker 1: their profile passing, rushing, no matter what analytics, it is 937 00:47:22,920 --> 00:47:26,000 Speaker 1: all screams average, middle of the pack, except for one thing. 938 00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:29,880 Speaker 1: They are number one in the league in field position 939 00:47:30,000 --> 00:47:32,160 Speaker 1: when they get the ball and number one in the 940 00:47:32,239 --> 00:47:35,759 Speaker 1: league in opponent's field position when the opponent gets the ball. 941 00:47:35,880 --> 00:47:39,239 Speaker 1: So they're like the five Bears in field position. Get 942 00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:43,520 Speaker 1: your tickets, SuDS and field position, and you have justin 943 00:47:43,600 --> 00:47:47,759 Speaker 1: Jefferson in this landscape. It's gonna lead to a lot 944 00:47:47,800 --> 00:47:49,480 Speaker 1: of ws. And to that point, Mark, you said, and 945 00:47:49,520 --> 00:47:52,719 Speaker 1: this isn't uh, this isn't coming at you on your analysis, 946 00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:55,880 Speaker 1: which is well studied as we know. I've heard this 947 00:47:55,920 --> 00:47:57,960 Speaker 1: passed around with different teams this week, like, oh, this 948 00:47:58,000 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: team has the hardest schedules the season, this team is 949 00:48:00,719 --> 00:48:03,000 Speaker 1: the easiest schedule. It's like all these teams are basically 950 00:48:03,040 --> 00:48:04,680 Speaker 1: the same. So I look at the Cardinals schedule and 951 00:48:04,719 --> 00:48:08,799 Speaker 1: it's like after this week's Seattle, Okay, at Rams, all right, 952 00:48:09,200 --> 00:48:13,600 Speaker 1: call him against San Francisco. Okay, the Chargers, Okay, I 953 00:48:13,680 --> 00:48:24,560 Speaker 1: think is not there is no NFL. But I think 954 00:48:24,560 --> 00:48:27,200 Speaker 1: the Cardinals to me are where I can see it 955 00:48:27,239 --> 00:48:28,920 Speaker 1: with the Niners. I can see it with Seattle. I 956 00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:30,359 Speaker 1: have no idea what the Cardinals is gonna be week 957 00:48:30,360 --> 00:48:32,600 Speaker 1: to week. I think their defense has gotten better and better. 958 00:48:32,680 --> 00:48:37,279 Speaker 1: That's probably what trajectory. The fact that they are three 959 00:48:37,280 --> 00:48:40,879 Speaker 1: and four is a good thing because they have been 960 00:48:41,000 --> 00:48:43,080 Speaker 1: pretty bad for most of the year and if they 961 00:48:43,080 --> 00:48:46,320 Speaker 1: could find a way to clean some things up again 962 00:48:46,480 --> 00:48:50,360 Speaker 1: at a very huge middle class of the NFL, uh, 963 00:48:50,440 --> 00:48:52,760 Speaker 1: that will get them back to the playoffs. Now let's 964 00:48:52,760 --> 00:48:57,120 Speaker 1: move to Snake. It's time for the Sunday Drive presented 965 00:48:57,160 --> 00:49:01,520 Speaker 1: by Toyota. Oh it really. You know the a f 966 00:49:01,600 --> 00:49:04,520 Speaker 1: C East was run by the Patriots for so long, boys, 967 00:49:05,160 --> 00:49:08,640 Speaker 1: And you know we're talking about Monday Night. Um, when 968 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,839 Speaker 1: you watch the game on Monday, Yes, Bill, I definitely did. 969 00:49:12,200 --> 00:49:15,040 Speaker 1: We all did. On Monday Night, the Chicago Bears were 970 00:49:15,120 --> 00:49:18,239 Speaker 1: up thirty three, fourteen inside the five yard line with 971 00:49:18,280 --> 00:49:20,799 Speaker 1: a chance to get a forty burger, and you had 972 00:49:20,840 --> 00:49:23,680 Speaker 1: both Manning brothers on the Mannics saying do it, do it, 973 00:49:23,719 --> 00:49:27,600 Speaker 1: do it. And it made me think back to last 974 00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:30,319 Speaker 1: year when the Jets had a rookie quarterback go out 975 00:49:30,320 --> 00:49:33,600 Speaker 1: of a game with an injury to his knee. And 976 00:49:33,640 --> 00:49:36,760 Speaker 1: it was a young Jets team, uh, not very talent 977 00:49:37,280 --> 00:49:40,960 Speaker 1: rich and certainly no experience. In the Patriots ran up 978 00:49:40,960 --> 00:49:44,959 Speaker 1: to score on the Jets to thirteen in that game 979 00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:49,280 Speaker 1: at Foxborough. And after the game, Uh, the Jets players 980 00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:52,840 Speaker 1: are unhappy about it. Richard Seymour and some fa cocta 981 00:49:52,920 --> 00:49:56,960 Speaker 1: Patriots celebration at halftime uh called the Jets. Uh. This 982 00:49:57,040 --> 00:49:58,920 Speaker 1: is a perfect time for the celebration. The Jets are 983 00:49:59,000 --> 00:50:02,799 Speaker 1: homecoming game, and that's why people like Peyton Manning are 984 00:50:02,840 --> 00:50:04,839 Speaker 1: saying run up the score and the Patriots. And that's 985 00:50:04,880 --> 00:50:08,879 Speaker 1: why the Jets should remember what happened last year when 986 00:50:08,920 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: they face New England because for the first time, even 987 00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,200 Speaker 1: though the Jets, now eight games in a row have 988 00:50:13,239 --> 00:50:15,760 Speaker 1: been underdogs in Vegas every week, there again an underdog 989 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:17,560 Speaker 1: in this game. I'm not saying that Jets are gonna 990 00:50:17,560 --> 00:50:19,960 Speaker 1: be in position to do what the Bears did last week, 991 00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:22,239 Speaker 1: because I don't know. That was kind of a weird, 992 00:50:22,280 --> 00:50:25,680 Speaker 1: little funky game, um, and I don't expect New England 993 00:50:25,719 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 1: to give effort and performance that bad again. But the 994 00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:33,240 Speaker 1: Jets have such a great opportunity here, even with the injuries, 995 00:50:33,360 --> 00:50:35,200 Speaker 1: which everyone knows that listened to the show, and I 996 00:50:35,239 --> 00:50:37,960 Speaker 1: was in some morning uh the timing of it, and 997 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,440 Speaker 1: I was upset about how the brief halt injury and 998 00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:44,200 Speaker 1: Vera Tucker kind of to me lowers their ceiling. I 999 00:50:44,239 --> 00:50:48,680 Speaker 1: still think they absolutely can make another huge um statement 1000 00:50:48,719 --> 00:50:51,520 Speaker 1: internally in their building in terms of moving forward into 1001 00:50:51,560 --> 00:50:54,440 Speaker 1: a new era by beating the Patriots at home. I 1002 00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,080 Speaker 1: think will be very disappointing if they don't find a way. 1003 00:50:57,239 --> 00:51:00,080 Speaker 1: They do need Mark, they do need Zach well and 1004 00:51:00,480 --> 00:51:03,040 Speaker 1: to play better. And that's the one thing that I'm 1005 00:51:03,080 --> 00:51:06,040 Speaker 1: I'm holding my breath on because they need him now, 1006 00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:08,920 Speaker 1: especially now you lose a superstar potential type guy and 1007 00:51:08,960 --> 00:51:11,640 Speaker 1: Bruce Hall the way he was starting to come into form. 1008 00:51:11,680 --> 00:51:13,359 Speaker 1: You need the quarterback to give you more. He's giving 1009 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,640 Speaker 1: you nothing less two weeks. Yeah, I mean there's there. 1010 00:51:15,680 --> 00:51:17,960 Speaker 1: You see little things with Zach Wilson, but that we 1011 00:51:18,080 --> 00:51:20,600 Speaker 1: just on our network show. They showed the highlight of 1012 00:51:20,680 --> 00:51:24,480 Speaker 1: him figurating like twice away, right, and he and he 1013 00:51:24,520 --> 00:51:27,080 Speaker 1: seems to walk into a worse situations and I'll throw 1014 00:51:27,080 --> 00:51:29,319 Speaker 1: the ball into another zip code. It's just, uh, it 1015 00:51:29,360 --> 00:51:31,880 Speaker 1: gets a little chaotic from my liking with Zach Wilson. 1016 00:51:31,920 --> 00:51:34,319 Speaker 1: I mean, and really what they were hoping was that 1017 00:51:34,400 --> 00:51:37,160 Speaker 1: you surround Zack Wilson with a Bruce Hall heart of 1018 00:51:37,200 --> 00:51:39,000 Speaker 1: the offense and you have that ground game. I don't 1019 00:51:39,000 --> 00:51:41,080 Speaker 1: know if James Robinson is gonna. I'm not sure James 1020 00:51:41,120 --> 00:51:43,440 Speaker 1: Robinson the hunter precent healthy. Like they talked about having 1021 00:51:43,480 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: a knee in Jacksonville before. He seemed to indicate that 1022 00:51:47,440 --> 00:51:50,000 Speaker 1: the team almost put that on him because they didn't 1023 00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:51,920 Speaker 1: want to play him because they knew he was gonna 1024 00:51:52,320 --> 00:51:53,719 Speaker 1: and the Jets, you know, get a look at the 1025 00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,400 Speaker 1: medicals before that deal. I think Michael Carter is the 1026 00:51:56,400 --> 00:51:58,000 Speaker 1: guy by the way, right, I think I think I 1027 00:51:58,000 --> 00:51:59,640 Speaker 1: think Carter sleear doing. I mean when it comes to 1028 00:51:59,680 --> 00:52:01,799 Speaker 1: the Jet so, I mean, I will I I kind 1029 00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: of love their season and they're enjoyable to watch um. 1030 00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,640 Speaker 1: But they have benefited by playing Jacoby Brissette, Kenny Picktt 1031 00:52:08,640 --> 00:52:12,520 Speaker 1: early on in his starting days here, Skylar Thompson, Brett Rippion, 1032 00:52:12,560 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 1: and and they've done a good job because the second 1033 00:52:14,760 --> 00:52:17,600 Speaker 1: only the second starting quarterback. They also they also beat 1034 00:52:17,640 --> 00:52:19,960 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers, So I mean, you've gotta factor that in. 1035 00:52:20,080 --> 00:52:22,800 Speaker 1: I just think this is UM whenever it's Bill Belichick 1036 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:24,719 Speaker 1: and the Jets, who seems to especially just like the 1037 00:52:24,800 --> 00:52:27,520 Speaker 1: Jets for reasons that UM I think go beyond just 1038 00:52:27,520 --> 00:52:29,840 Speaker 1: the fact that they're a division opponent. He loves stamping 1039 00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:31,840 Speaker 1: the Jets and I don't want to do it again, 1040 00:52:32,360 --> 00:52:34,839 Speaker 1: but this would be a huge, I think, psychological win 1041 00:52:34,880 --> 00:52:37,880 Speaker 1: for the Jets no matter what's going on psychological, it 1042 00:52:37,960 --> 00:52:40,759 Speaker 1: would be such a lift for the entire organization to 1043 00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:42,640 Speaker 1: kind of put the Patriots in their rear view mirror 1044 00:52:42,680 --> 00:52:45,360 Speaker 1: and say we are the team that should be viewed 1045 00:52:45,400 --> 00:52:48,200 Speaker 1: as chasing the Bills. That's not the Patriots, right. This 1046 00:52:48,239 --> 00:52:51,359 Speaker 1: is a chance to really bury the Patriots at three 1047 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:54,360 Speaker 1: and five. It's a huge playoff race type of game. 1048 00:52:54,520 --> 00:52:57,400 Speaker 1: I think the Jets at five and two are obviously 1049 00:52:57,480 --> 00:53:01,080 Speaker 1: playoff contenders, and it's a home division game against the 1050 00:53:01,120 --> 00:53:04,319 Speaker 1: team that's last place in your division. It's a great 1051 00:53:04,360 --> 00:53:06,680 Speaker 1: spot like that that fifty burger the Patriots put out 1052 00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:08,200 Speaker 1: him a year ago were when when they were in 1053 00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 1: similar spots. The Patriots were two and four going into 1054 00:53:11,160 --> 00:53:13,839 Speaker 1: that game, like people thought the Patriots season was over, 1055 00:53:13,840 --> 00:53:15,920 Speaker 1: and I think there's a feeling in New England it's 1056 00:53:15,960 --> 00:53:18,439 Speaker 1: like that now that the sky is falling. Belichick does 1057 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:22,560 Speaker 1: tend to bring out his best stuff after a disaster 1058 00:53:23,400 --> 00:53:27,759 Speaker 1: against the Jets and against bad quarterbacks. And right now, 1059 00:53:27,760 --> 00:53:30,200 Speaker 1: I think you look at the last two weeks and 1060 00:53:30,280 --> 00:53:32,680 Speaker 1: Zack Wilson is one of the worst starting quarterbacks in 1061 00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,160 Speaker 1: the league. I think that's unquestionable, and it's amazing they're 1062 00:53:37,160 --> 00:53:40,120 Speaker 1: winning these games like this. They all need more from 1063 00:53:40,120 --> 00:53:42,359 Speaker 1: He showed something in his first two starts. I thought 1064 00:53:42,440 --> 00:53:45,000 Speaker 1: he was making most of the right reads. But he's 1065 00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:47,879 Speaker 1: looked pretty lost the last two weeks, especially last week 1066 00:53:47,920 --> 00:53:51,439 Speaker 1: against a great defense. Ultimately, mac Jones has looked lost 1067 00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:54,120 Speaker 1: two and mac Jones is fully expected to start this game. 1068 00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:58,080 Speaker 1: The all the drama UH from a week ago, we 1069 00:53:58,280 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: think is gonna end because the reporting has been mac 1070 00:54:01,520 --> 00:54:03,960 Speaker 1: Jones will start that he's taking all the practice snaps. 1071 00:54:04,160 --> 00:54:06,640 Speaker 1: But he reportedly took all the practice snaps a week 1072 00:54:06,640 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: ago too, and they still pulled them. So I never 1073 00:54:09,640 --> 00:54:12,520 Speaker 1: put it past Belichick, who won't confirm it publicly. Beyond that, 1074 00:54:12,560 --> 00:54:15,399 Speaker 1: mac Jones is ready to play this game. But it's 1075 00:54:15,440 --> 00:54:20,080 Speaker 1: a huge, huge game for mac Jones in his career. Yeah, 1076 00:54:20,239 --> 00:54:23,560 Speaker 1: he needs to put put sort of what's happened behind 1077 00:54:23,640 --> 00:54:26,359 Speaker 1: him a little bit because it is very uncomfortable there. 1078 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:28,000 Speaker 1: You're almost glad it's not in New England. I was 1079 00:54:28,000 --> 00:54:31,000 Speaker 1: gonna say it's perfect because the Patriots in Belichick have 1080 00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:34,160 Speaker 1: no fear going to the metal lands, and you get 1081 00:54:34,239 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 1: him out of that really unhealthy environment in New England 1082 00:54:38,080 --> 00:54:40,160 Speaker 1: where and I'm not this is not me taking shots 1083 00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:41,680 Speaker 1: of the Patriots, and it's gonna sound like it, but 1084 00:54:41,680 --> 00:54:46,239 Speaker 1: it's like twenty years builds in entitlement in a franchise 1085 00:54:46,280 --> 00:54:49,160 Speaker 1: and a fan base, and they're expecting every quarterback to 1086 00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:51,080 Speaker 1: be Tom Brady now, and if it's if mac Jones 1087 00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,640 Speaker 1: isn't immediately giving them what they want, they're gonna assume 1088 00:54:53,920 --> 00:54:56,320 Speaker 1: the backup, like the sixth round pick in two thousand 1089 00:54:56,400 --> 00:54:58,560 Speaker 1: one should be the guy that plays like that's just 1090 00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:01,520 Speaker 1: like it's still a transition period for that fan base. 1091 00:55:01,680 --> 00:55:03,440 Speaker 1: So to get him kind of out of that world 1092 00:55:03,520 --> 00:55:05,400 Speaker 1: and let him just play on the road against the 1093 00:55:05,480 --> 00:55:08,800 Speaker 1: Jets um And it should be said that the Jets 1094 00:55:08,800 --> 00:55:11,320 Speaker 1: lost two major pieces of their offense, but their defense 1095 00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,560 Speaker 1: is still intact, and uh, I expect him to get 1096 00:55:14,600 --> 00:55:19,400 Speaker 1: after mac Jones biggest Patriots Jets game since their playoff tussle. 1097 00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:26,600 Speaker 1: I'd says that everyone else forgets the Fits magic year, 1098 00:55:26,600 --> 00:55:29,360 Speaker 1: and it's understandable, but they had They're a big game, right. 1099 00:55:29,400 --> 00:55:32,000 Speaker 1: I disregard that season as fraudulent, but maybe I think 1100 00:55:32,000 --> 00:55:34,120 Speaker 1: the Jets will get after and Mac Jones does not 1101 00:55:34,160 --> 00:55:37,040 Speaker 1: look comfortable under pressure this year. He hasn't looked like 1102 00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:39,360 Speaker 1: the same quarterback. They're running a lot of vertical routes. 1103 00:55:39,400 --> 00:55:40,799 Speaker 1: For me, I think they kind of used to. They 1104 00:55:41,040 --> 00:55:43,640 Speaker 1: use different plays with Zappy than for him. It's strange. 1105 00:55:43,680 --> 00:55:46,960 Speaker 1: And uh, They're best player on offense might be centered 1106 00:55:47,040 --> 00:55:49,920 Speaker 1: David Andrews, who really runs all those protections and he 1107 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:54,080 Speaker 1: suffered concussion. Christian Barmour, who's been great. It's like he's 1108 00:55:54,080 --> 00:55:55,960 Speaker 1: out of this game. And the Patriots in general. It 1109 00:55:56,040 --> 00:55:58,279 Speaker 1: sounds strange, but I feel like they go as Trent 1110 00:55:58,360 --> 00:56:01,360 Speaker 1: Brown goes, Like when Trent out his rolland there rolland 1111 00:56:01,400 --> 00:56:03,080 Speaker 1: Trent Brown's coming off one of the worst games of 1112 00:56:03,120 --> 00:56:05,040 Speaker 1: his career. He's been a mess. If Andrews is out, 1113 00:56:05,360 --> 00:56:08,200 Speaker 1: I do like this Jets defense. I thought about challenging 1114 00:56:08,200 --> 00:56:11,080 Speaker 1: you to a lock off for this game, Dann, because 1115 00:56:11,120 --> 00:56:13,560 Speaker 1: I do think the Patriots will win if I had 1116 00:56:13,560 --> 00:56:16,040 Speaker 1: to choose. I don't feel that strong, but I do 1117 00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:18,680 Speaker 1: think the Patriots will win. But I just thought about 1118 00:56:19,080 --> 00:56:21,440 Speaker 1: there's a lot of it could just be ugly in 1119 00:56:21,480 --> 00:56:24,840 Speaker 1: the in the newsroom if that happened, or if you know. 1120 00:56:24,880 --> 00:56:26,879 Speaker 1: Either way, it's like, I don't know if it's worth 1121 00:56:26,880 --> 00:56:30,160 Speaker 1: it just for the entertainment of the show itself, because 1122 00:56:30,160 --> 00:56:32,880 Speaker 1: it's not the game. I feel strongest about what it 1123 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:35,960 Speaker 1: would be. It would be a fun little side side piece. 1124 00:56:36,000 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 1: You're a natural showman, Greg, so I'm surprised that you 1125 00:56:38,440 --> 00:56:42,920 Speaker 1: could essentially not fault for the temptation that over confident 1126 00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:45,440 Speaker 1: in this game, just because the average margin of victory 1127 00:56:45,520 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: during this current Patriots twelve game streak over the Jets 1128 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,040 Speaker 1: is twenty points. And I wasna I was gonna see 1129 00:56:51,040 --> 00:56:53,400 Speaker 1: how confident you were, and post Tom Brady, I'm not. 1130 00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:55,600 Speaker 1: The Jets are owing four with the minus seventy seven 1131 00:56:55,640 --> 00:56:59,400 Speaker 1: point differential, So Belichick has had their number for years. 1132 00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,000 Speaker 1: But maybe this is the start of something new. That 1133 00:57:03,120 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: was the Sunday Drive presented by Toyota. Let's take a 1134 00:57:06,120 --> 00:57:10,719 Speaker 1: break and continue the draft. All right, we're back Mark, 1135 00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:14,719 Speaker 1: all right, I'm gonna go Steelers at Eagles. Um, First 1136 00:57:14,719 --> 00:57:18,040 Speaker 1: of all, I never buy into this battle for Pennsylvania business. 1137 00:57:18,080 --> 00:57:20,120 Speaker 1: I don't understand that. I don't think that they bought 1138 00:57:20,160 --> 00:57:23,280 Speaker 1: into the battle for Ohio opponents. I don't think that 1139 00:57:23,320 --> 00:57:26,040 Speaker 1: the Eagles and Steelers fans walk around for the next 1140 00:57:26,040 --> 00:57:28,840 Speaker 1: three d buy into the other one either. Yeah, just 1141 00:57:28,880 --> 00:57:33,880 Speaker 1: this way the interesting. I mean, I'll play ball with it. Um, 1142 00:57:33,960 --> 00:57:37,160 Speaker 1: you don't even have to. I'm not refusing to. Yeah, 1143 00:57:37,160 --> 00:57:39,600 Speaker 1: you just ignored I'm refusing to buy into it. But 1144 00:57:39,680 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: you kind of have by bringing it up. You're right, 1145 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:45,560 Speaker 1: I've I've fallen for my own tricks. Uh. Eagles I 1146 00:57:45,560 --> 00:57:48,400 Speaker 1: think are just like so interesting to watch and so complete. 1147 00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,480 Speaker 1: They just traded for Robert Quinn. That's such the most 1148 00:57:50,520 --> 00:57:53,520 Speaker 1: Eagles thing ever. I mean, they just there's no weakness 1149 00:57:53,520 --> 00:57:56,000 Speaker 1: on this team that I can do. I'm bored. I mean, 1150 00:57:56,000 --> 00:57:58,160 Speaker 1: that's a big move. It is a big move. I 1151 00:57:58,280 --> 00:58:01,000 Speaker 1: kind of surprised after that Monday night game. Thing new 1152 00:58:01,040 --> 00:58:03,720 Speaker 1: in my life. I'm not in the headlines. Nobody's talking 1153 00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:06,800 Speaker 1: about me. I need to get back in it. Literally 1154 00:58:06,880 --> 00:58:11,320 Speaker 1: predicted that as Roman that it undefeated. Don't even need 1155 00:58:11,360 --> 00:58:13,840 Speaker 1: anything really right now, if you think about it. But 1156 00:58:14,120 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: just a shop. They don't even need a pass there's 1157 00:58:17,120 --> 00:58:20,000 Speaker 1: no such Roseman thing to do. That was literally on 1158 00:58:20,080 --> 00:58:23,160 Speaker 1: yesterday's show hours before the trade, and that's what they did. 1159 00:58:23,160 --> 00:58:25,280 Speaker 1: They take a strength and they just added more because 1160 00:58:25,400 --> 00:58:27,520 Speaker 1: what the hell why not? And I mean, you talk 1161 00:58:27,560 --> 00:58:29,760 Speaker 1: about Kenny Pickett, I think it's just been so there 1162 00:58:29,800 --> 00:58:31,840 Speaker 1: are things about Kenny Pickett that I like. I like 1163 00:58:31,920 --> 00:58:35,240 Speaker 1: his aggressiveness, but he's been a turnover machine. Uh, it's 1164 00:58:35,240 --> 00:58:37,000 Speaker 1: sort of a function of their offense a little bit. 1165 00:58:37,000 --> 00:58:39,840 Speaker 1: But that you're gonna deal with Darius Slay, with James Bradberry, 1166 00:58:39,840 --> 00:58:42,320 Speaker 1: who we talked about, how they terrorized Kirk Cousins and 1167 00:58:42,320 --> 00:58:44,520 Speaker 1: that one Vikings lost. I mean, there's just not a 1168 00:58:44,560 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: weakness on this Eagles team. I think, if anything, Nick 1169 00:58:46,880 --> 00:58:49,720 Speaker 1: Sirianni has almost gone under the radar as a coach 1170 00:58:49,720 --> 00:58:51,600 Speaker 1: that deserves a lot more credit because it was a 1171 00:58:51,680 --> 00:58:55,000 Speaker 1: year ago when their offense wasn't working out. Point blank 1172 00:58:55,080 --> 00:58:58,320 Speaker 1: mid season just turns them into a ground heavy monster 1173 00:58:58,440 --> 00:59:00,680 Speaker 1: that is unstoppable on the ground. There's so much more 1174 00:59:00,680 --> 00:59:02,440 Speaker 1: balance now. And if you look at the Steelers, they've 1175 00:59:02,480 --> 00:59:05,200 Speaker 1: given up the third nose passing yards in the league. 1176 00:59:05,480 --> 00:59:08,320 Speaker 1: Their defense is a good by name and reputation, only 1177 00:59:08,400 --> 00:59:10,720 Speaker 1: they're not a very good defense right now. And I 1178 00:59:10,720 --> 00:59:13,280 Speaker 1: don't see how if you're Philly with a J. Brown 1179 00:59:13,640 --> 00:59:15,520 Speaker 1: with with what you've got through the air, that you 1180 00:59:15,560 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 1: can't take total advantage of the Steelers defense. And I 1181 00:59:17,920 --> 00:59:20,680 Speaker 1: don't like it at all. For Pittsburgh might get t 1182 00:59:20,840 --> 00:59:23,880 Speaker 1: j Wa back, which would be huge, that would be 1183 00:59:23,960 --> 00:59:26,520 Speaker 1: I actually think the Steelers will keep it under the 1184 00:59:26,600 --> 00:59:30,080 Speaker 1: number just because they have every week other than that 1185 00:59:30,120 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 1: Bill's game, every Steelers game has come down to the 1186 00:59:32,720 --> 00:59:35,120 Speaker 1: last possession. I know in the Browns game they scored 1187 00:59:35,120 --> 00:59:37,240 Speaker 1: a touchdown on the last play, which was one of those, 1188 00:59:37,720 --> 00:59:40,120 Speaker 1: but that was essentially a one score game too. They 1189 00:59:40,240 --> 00:59:43,720 Speaker 1: they've they're competitive, and I think they'll be competitive. But 1190 00:59:43,760 --> 00:59:45,640 Speaker 1: I think this Quin trade is one of the reasons 1191 00:59:45,640 --> 00:59:49,600 Speaker 1: why the Eagles built back their team to a superpower 1192 00:59:50,040 --> 00:59:53,200 Speaker 1: so quickly. It's strength on strength, Like you mentioned their 1193 00:59:53,280 --> 00:59:57,600 Speaker 1: deep at pass rusher already with Brandon Graham and Josh 1194 00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:02,200 Speaker 1: Sweat and Hassan Dick. It's crazy and yet you add 1195 01:00:02,240 --> 01:00:06,680 Speaker 1: another one because I think the the analytics department, which 1196 01:00:06,760 --> 01:00:09,480 Speaker 1: Nick Sirianni shouted out by name as analytics is getting 1197 01:00:09,480 --> 01:00:11,880 Speaker 1: a lot of grief. You know, in the NFL, Nick 1198 01:00:11,920 --> 01:00:14,960 Speaker 1: Sirian he shouted out by name run by uh their VP, 1199 01:00:15,040 --> 01:00:16,960 Speaker 1: Alec Hallabey, And I think a lot of what these 1200 01:00:17,000 --> 01:00:19,440 Speaker 1: analytics department says, at least for the Eagles, which is 1201 01:00:19,440 --> 01:00:22,360 Speaker 1: clear as load up on huge guys, load up on 1202 01:00:22,400 --> 01:00:26,480 Speaker 1: your lines, get eight linemen on both sides because huge 1203 01:00:26,560 --> 01:00:30,880 Speaker 1: men linemen, especially defensive linemen. Offensive lineman too, is like 1204 01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:35,200 Speaker 1: an undervalued resource somehow in the NFL. Guys that can 1205 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,400 Speaker 1: just play forty snaps A fourth round pick for Quinns, 1206 01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:41,840 Speaker 1: you know, and their their ability to cycle in guys 1207 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:45,120 Speaker 1: and keep players fresh and and all. This depth is 1208 01:00:45,160 --> 01:00:47,920 Speaker 1: so incredibly important. You need it because this is a 1209 01:00:47,960 --> 01:00:50,480 Speaker 1: gauntlet the season. So it's a great move. And I 1210 01:00:50,520 --> 01:00:53,240 Speaker 1: love when gms don't fall in love. I understand the 1211 01:00:53,320 --> 01:00:56,160 Speaker 1: value of a mid round pick and how um teams 1212 01:00:56,200 --> 01:01:00,200 Speaker 1: believe they could find gold with those picks. But how 1213 01:01:00,200 --> 01:01:02,360 Speaker 1: long is Robert Quinn under a contract? This is it? 1214 01:01:02,520 --> 01:01:05,480 Speaker 1: This is it? So it gets a compensatory picks. It's 1215 01:01:05,480 --> 01:01:08,400 Speaker 1: a potential rental. If it really works out, they can 1216 01:01:08,480 --> 01:01:10,480 Speaker 1: work out a deal to keep him. If he leaves, 1217 01:01:10,520 --> 01:01:12,800 Speaker 1: you get potentially a draft pick, and it's just kind 1218 01:01:12,800 --> 01:01:16,520 Speaker 1: of like a no brainer. And if you're another contender 1219 01:01:16,560 --> 01:01:18,640 Speaker 1: in the league, you're like, damn, the Eagles are doing this. 1220 01:01:18,720 --> 01:01:22,040 Speaker 1: They did that with Gardner Johnson before the season started 1221 01:01:22,200 --> 01:01:24,640 Speaker 1: and when there may not be another contender in the NFC, 1222 01:01:24,680 --> 01:01:27,200 Speaker 1: because you're lucky to be this aggressive in the season 1223 01:01:27,480 --> 01:01:30,120 Speaker 1: where two teams you thought the Bucks and Packers would 1224 01:01:30,120 --> 01:01:33,640 Speaker 1: be major factors are devolving. Right, And I'll just say 1225 01:01:34,280 --> 01:01:36,240 Speaker 1: my last point in this Greg, as you had mentioned, 1226 01:01:36,360 --> 01:01:38,040 Speaker 1: you think the steel is gonna hang around this game 1227 01:01:38,040 --> 01:01:40,640 Speaker 1: with the exception of the Buffalo game. Well, I think 1228 01:01:40,640 --> 01:01:44,240 Speaker 1: that it's there's three teams Eagles, Chiefs, Uh and Buffalo 1229 01:01:44,440 --> 01:01:47,320 Speaker 1: that are above everyone else. And I don't think the Steelers, 1230 01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,160 Speaker 1: like they couldn't hang with Buffalo, They're gonna hang with 1231 01:01:49,200 --> 01:01:50,960 Speaker 1: Philly on the road. I think they're gonna get their 1232 01:01:50,960 --> 01:01:55,040 Speaker 1: doors blown off. I'm laying that wood. Okay, good for you. 1233 01:01:55,240 --> 01:01:57,440 Speaker 1: What about is the rainmaker coming out? He did? He 1234 01:01:57,480 --> 01:01:59,680 Speaker 1: took an l last week. You got a W two. Right. 1235 01:02:00,480 --> 01:02:03,120 Speaker 1: Not only did the Seahawks win, but hopefully people felt 1236 01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:06,080 Speaker 1: the confidences as six and a half point underdogs there 1237 01:02:06,400 --> 01:02:08,480 Speaker 1: that one by seventeen and just went the you know, 1238 01:02:08,560 --> 01:02:11,840 Speaker 1: well the other the other matchup you picked cost people dead, 1239 01:02:11,880 --> 01:02:17,040 Speaker 1: president and one one's good or more families potentially? Sure, yeah, 1240 01:02:17,080 --> 01:02:19,360 Speaker 1: I mean one one. And if I'm just saying, if 1241 01:02:19,400 --> 01:02:22,000 Speaker 1: you great, how about the guy that only did the 1242 01:02:22,280 --> 01:02:25,760 Speaker 1: He's like, I can only pick. Funds are limited. I'm 1243 01:02:25,800 --> 01:02:28,760 Speaker 1: gonna go to win. Or you took the Seahawks to win, 1244 01:02:28,840 --> 01:02:31,520 Speaker 1: then actually one and one is a win. One and 1245 01:02:31,600 --> 01:02:37,040 Speaker 1: one's a win when the drunk on power unless you 1246 01:02:37,080 --> 01:02:39,680 Speaker 1: parlaid them, then you lose. Well, who had no one? 1247 01:02:39,720 --> 01:02:42,680 Speaker 1: Does that go? Grave Digger chimes in, usually we'd have 1248 01:02:42,720 --> 01:02:45,120 Speaker 1: an issue, but no issue. Probably took Greg's advice and 1249 01:02:45,200 --> 01:02:49,400 Speaker 1: is paying for it. Do not do that, will never 1250 01:02:49,480 --> 01:02:55,000 Speaker 1: do that, never ever to have the first overall pick. 1251 01:02:55,200 --> 01:02:57,800 Speaker 1: It truly is. But we say that every week now. 1252 01:02:58,000 --> 01:03:00,840 Speaker 1: It is the fact that I'm taking Ray Leaders Saints, 1253 01:03:00,840 --> 01:03:06,120 Speaker 1: says my next pick. I just like I'm thinking which 1254 01:03:06,120 --> 01:03:09,600 Speaker 1: teams have I watched live? It is a big game 1255 01:03:09,680 --> 01:03:12,880 Speaker 1: for the both of these teams. I think they're both 1256 01:03:13,480 --> 01:03:16,840 Speaker 1: a little better than their records. Any hope that these 1257 01:03:16,840 --> 01:03:19,040 Speaker 1: teams have you know what you mean, you win? No, 1258 01:03:19,440 --> 01:03:21,360 Speaker 1: it's not like but but I like it. Too, That's 1259 01:03:21,360 --> 01:03:23,360 Speaker 1: why I'm taking it. But they're combining the records are 1260 01:03:23,400 --> 01:03:25,640 Speaker 1: four and nine, so it's like that's sort of where 1261 01:03:25,640 --> 01:03:27,560 Speaker 1: we are with the NFL, that that's a good game. 1262 01:03:28,400 --> 01:03:32,280 Speaker 1: Um party Town verse party Town, Oh, along those lines. 1263 01:03:32,360 --> 01:03:35,000 Speaker 1: This blew my mind the stack, Reggy. There's only one 1264 01:03:35,120 --> 01:03:37,920 Speaker 1: game in Week eight with two teams with a winning record, 1265 01:03:39,000 --> 01:03:43,600 Speaker 1: and it's the freaking Giants and the Seahawks a week ago, 1266 01:03:43,640 --> 01:03:45,760 Speaker 1: I think, So okay, that makes more sense that we 1267 01:03:45,880 --> 01:03:47,960 Speaker 1: just think about if somebody had told you that back 1268 01:03:47,960 --> 01:03:50,320 Speaker 1: in the summer. By week there's only one game with 1269 01:03:50,360 --> 01:03:52,520 Speaker 1: two winning teams and it's the Giants and Seahawks. This 1270 01:03:52,600 --> 01:03:56,280 Speaker 1: has been a weird, funky, freaky season for these two teams. 1271 01:03:56,400 --> 01:03:59,560 Speaker 1: I think especially the Raiders are arguably one of the 1272 01:03:59,560 --> 01:04:02,320 Speaker 1: best offenses in the league. I mean, they've scored thirty 1273 01:04:02,320 --> 01:04:06,439 Speaker 1: three a game the last three. They're running the ball fantastic. 1274 01:04:06,520 --> 01:04:10,560 Speaker 1: I think Derek Carr's making great decisions and they're going 1275 01:04:10,640 --> 01:04:13,120 Speaker 1: up against a bad defense. You gotta call the Saints 1276 01:04:13,200 --> 01:04:15,440 Speaker 1: that at this point for all to talk about like 1277 01:04:15,520 --> 01:04:21,320 Speaker 1: losing Sean Payton, their numbers offensively in every respect are 1278 01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,080 Speaker 1: considerably better than they were a year ago, like by 1279 01:04:24,120 --> 01:04:26,840 Speaker 1: a lot. They're like top five or six yards per 1280 01:04:26,880 --> 01:04:29,160 Speaker 1: play and points per drive and all this stuff, and 1281 01:04:29,200 --> 01:04:31,760 Speaker 1: their defense is right near the bottom at all those 1282 01:04:31,840 --> 01:04:35,720 Speaker 1: They're not making big plays, they're giving up big plays defensively. 1283 01:04:36,160 --> 01:04:40,240 Speaker 1: They're still without Marshawn Lattimore. I was thinking maybe with 1284 01:04:40,320 --> 01:04:42,760 Speaker 1: the extra of days with the you know they call 1285 01:04:42,800 --> 01:04:45,120 Speaker 1: it the mini buy for the Saints, they'd get healthier. 1286 01:04:45,120 --> 01:04:47,439 Speaker 1: But Michael Thomas still out of practice, Jervis Landry still 1287 01:04:47,440 --> 01:04:50,200 Speaker 1: out of practice, Lattimore is still out of practice, and 1288 01:04:50,400 --> 01:04:52,480 Speaker 1: the defense hasn't shown enough to me that they're like 1289 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,720 Speaker 1: going to keep the Raiders under thirty so they can 1290 01:04:54,760 --> 01:04:57,760 Speaker 1: the offense score over thirty. With Andy Dalton as their quarterback. 1291 01:04:57,800 --> 01:04:59,520 Speaker 1: I think they have a chance. But it's just like 1292 01:04:59,560 --> 01:05:01,520 Speaker 1: that's a lot to ask they have a chance. I mean, 1293 01:05:01,560 --> 01:05:04,560 Speaker 1: I love I know that the Las Vegas the record 1294 01:05:04,600 --> 01:05:06,880 Speaker 1: has them in a dark place right now, but they're 1295 01:05:06,920 --> 01:05:09,040 Speaker 1: one team that I kind of think can get back 1296 01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,800 Speaker 1: into this thing. I like this matchup for them. The 1297 01:05:12,040 --> 01:05:14,240 Speaker 1: Saints have the thirty first scoring defense, they have the 1298 01:05:14,280 --> 01:05:17,120 Speaker 1: most giveaways in the NFL on offense, and they they 1299 01:05:17,120 --> 01:05:19,920 Speaker 1: were run on by Eno Benjamin a week ago against Arizona. 1300 01:05:20,080 --> 01:05:22,560 Speaker 1: Josh Jacobs has four d forty one yards and six 1301 01:05:22,600 --> 01:05:25,040 Speaker 1: touchdowns in the last three weeks. Derek Carr isn't a 1302 01:05:25,080 --> 01:05:27,360 Speaker 1: better situation with the way they're playing right now on 1303 01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:30,200 Speaker 1: a run heavy offense. He's thrown one interception since Week two. 1304 01:05:30,520 --> 01:05:32,880 Speaker 1: That's the issue when Derek Carr was throwing picks in 1305 01:05:32,920 --> 01:05:34,600 Speaker 1: that Week one game, But just in general, when you 1306 01:05:34,600 --> 01:05:36,800 Speaker 1: get that with Derek Carr, you're killing chances. But he's 1307 01:05:36,840 --> 01:05:39,400 Speaker 1: making throws and they are able to do like their 1308 01:05:39,480 --> 01:05:47,280 Speaker 1: line had like nine combinations. It's just way too strange 1309 01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,640 Speaker 1: of a matchup to lock either one without being called 1310 01:05:49,640 --> 01:05:51,880 Speaker 1: a psycho. So I'm not gonna do that. But I 1311 01:05:51,880 --> 01:05:54,000 Speaker 1: think that I think that the team I believe in 1312 01:05:54,040 --> 01:05:55,880 Speaker 1: more is the Raiders to get back into it in 1313 01:05:55,920 --> 01:05:58,160 Speaker 1: the a f C and be a factor down the stretch. 1314 01:05:58,160 --> 01:05:59,880 Speaker 1: I already flipped my pick for this game. I picked 1315 01:05:59,880 --> 01:06:01,640 Speaker 1: this Saints initially just felt like they're going to get 1316 01:06:01,680 --> 01:06:05,000 Speaker 1: back in this uh and then I looked at that 1317 01:06:05,040 --> 01:06:07,320 Speaker 1: injury report and I was too freaked out. Dennis Allen, 1318 01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:09,640 Speaker 1: you know they've Here's where they missed on Peyton is 1319 01:06:09,640 --> 01:06:12,080 Speaker 1: that they no longer have Dennis Allen as their defensive coordinator. 1320 01:06:12,440 --> 01:06:14,840 Speaker 1: And I just think he was a good coordinator and 1321 01:06:14,880 --> 01:06:17,160 Speaker 1: he's not a good head coach apparently, and he defenses 1322 01:06:17,240 --> 01:06:20,320 Speaker 1: falling apart. It's gonna be the very, uh, a very 1323 01:06:20,400 --> 01:06:23,680 Speaker 1: raiderous thing when Josh Jacobs gets a contract extension uh 1324 01:06:24,240 --> 01:06:26,360 Speaker 1: and then never does this again. Well, just to go 1325 01:06:26,480 --> 01:06:29,160 Speaker 1: from the decline of the fifth year rookie deal to 1326 01:06:29,200 --> 01:06:31,360 Speaker 1: the extension I'm looking forward to. The fantasy heads are 1327 01:06:31,400 --> 01:06:35,400 Speaker 1: already freaking out about him being overdrafted next summer. We 1328 01:06:35,160 --> 01:06:38,720 Speaker 1: we we should mention that's their business. Mark I was 1329 01:06:38,760 --> 01:06:40,800 Speaker 1: saying that they were saying, don't do that. They're trying 1330 01:06:40,800 --> 01:06:44,240 Speaker 1: to give good advice, but who cares about next year's 1331 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,960 Speaker 1: draft talking about that? I have nothing monitored that on 1332 01:06:47,960 --> 01:06:51,040 Speaker 1: Twitter that a lot of Josh Jacobs for sale responses 1333 01:06:50,440 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: to the next year Do you trade him now? At 1334 01:06:53,440 --> 01:06:55,080 Speaker 1: his peak? And I would say no, I think this 1335 01:06:55,240 --> 01:06:58,160 Speaker 1: is sustainable, uh, Andy Dalton, they believe is sustainable. They 1336 01:06:58,160 --> 01:07:01,400 Speaker 1: announced he's officially the starter over Jamis Winston, who's healthy 1337 01:07:01,480 --> 01:07:04,640 Speaker 1: enough to play. I think that was actually the case 1338 01:07:04,760 --> 01:07:08,120 Speaker 1: last Thursday, but they hadn't told Jamis Winston that or 1339 01:07:08,160 --> 01:07:10,960 Speaker 1: told the media or told their players that, and they 1340 01:07:11,000 --> 01:07:12,800 Speaker 1: stuck with Andy Dalton. They said, they don't want to 1341 01:07:12,840 --> 01:07:16,240 Speaker 1: rock the boat about this. Taysom Hill and Andy Dalton 1342 01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:18,480 Speaker 1: they can make some music together, and we started to 1343 01:07:18,480 --> 01:07:20,240 Speaker 1: see that. And then he's got nine touches in the 1344 01:07:20,320 --> 01:07:23,160 Speaker 1: last two weeks. There, you know, And what you're saying 1345 01:07:23,280 --> 01:07:25,280 Speaker 1: is true. They aren't scoring points. Some of that is 1346 01:07:25,520 --> 01:07:27,680 Speaker 1: they're chasing points because the defense has given up so 1347 01:07:27,720 --> 01:07:30,680 Speaker 1: many points. But finding a way to make Dalton and 1348 01:07:30,880 --> 01:07:34,800 Speaker 1: Hill work in concert, I think. And some of it 1349 01:07:35,000 --> 01:07:38,360 Speaker 1: they're they're giving up points offensively like Andy Dalton did, 1350 01:07:38,440 --> 01:07:40,320 Speaker 1: and then the running backs did for the first three 1351 01:07:40,360 --> 01:07:44,440 Speaker 1: or four games where they just fumbled three times a week. 1352 01:07:47,160 --> 01:07:51,560 Speaker 1: Oh it's me against Uh, it's the Dolphins, it's the Lions. 1353 01:07:52,120 --> 01:07:55,280 Speaker 1: I think I've watched every single Lions game this year live. 1354 01:07:55,800 --> 01:08:01,120 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's just like not much out there. And 1355 01:08:01,160 --> 01:08:04,400 Speaker 1: I do find this Dolphins team very compelling, even if 1356 01:08:04,800 --> 01:08:08,320 Speaker 1: the Lions are less compelling. I would say right now, 1357 01:08:08,360 --> 01:08:11,720 Speaker 1: Torn Arms, that has really meant everything to them. When 1358 01:08:11,760 --> 01:08:16,080 Speaker 1: Tron Arms started plays, they protect their quarterback and they 1359 01:08:16,120 --> 01:08:18,719 Speaker 1: look better. And I know they struggled in the final 1360 01:08:18,800 --> 01:08:20,840 Speaker 1: three quarters a week ago, and I don't think this 1361 01:08:20,920 --> 01:08:23,880 Speaker 1: is as easy a matchup as it would have been 1362 01:08:23,880 --> 01:08:25,720 Speaker 1: before the bye. I think they came out of there 1363 01:08:25,720 --> 01:08:28,720 Speaker 1: by with better energy. They played great in terms of 1364 01:08:28,720 --> 01:08:31,960 Speaker 1: their energy on defense a week ago. It wasn't on them. 1365 01:08:32,120 --> 01:08:35,679 Speaker 1: They were flying around. Hutchison had his best game. Josh Pascal, 1366 01:08:35,720 --> 01:08:38,080 Speaker 1: who was a second round pick returned from my R 1367 01:08:38,120 --> 01:08:40,840 Speaker 1: played great. Okuda played great, and so I don't just 1368 01:08:40,920 --> 01:08:43,000 Speaker 1: hand this to the Dolphins. I don't think they're gonna 1369 01:08:43,040 --> 01:08:45,880 Speaker 1: put up thirty five. I think those days, at least 1370 01:08:45,880 --> 01:08:47,880 Speaker 1: against the Lions might be over. I wouldn't hand it 1371 01:08:47,880 --> 01:08:51,400 Speaker 1: to the Dolphins either. I mean if starting with Miami's secondary, 1372 01:08:51,400 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: which is real banged up. You lost Brandon Jones a 1373 01:08:54,120 --> 01:08:56,439 Speaker 1: week ago at safety Xavian Howard. I don't think it's 1374 01:08:56,439 --> 01:08:59,160 Speaker 1: looked like himself for much of the year Byron Jones, 1375 01:08:59,240 --> 01:09:01,320 Speaker 1: Nick Needham banged up, so you can pass. I mean 1376 01:09:01,320 --> 01:09:04,120 Speaker 1: that we've seen we I think maybe the early part 1377 01:09:04,160 --> 01:09:06,160 Speaker 1: of the season with Detroit's offense was a bit of 1378 01:09:06,200 --> 01:09:08,960 Speaker 1: a aberration. I'm not sure that's really who they are. 1379 01:09:09,000 --> 01:09:11,000 Speaker 1: And when they get the Andrew Swift back, that wouldn't 1380 01:09:11,200 --> 01:09:14,200 Speaker 1: that would matter a lot um. Looks like he's practicing. 1381 01:09:14,240 --> 01:09:16,680 Speaker 1: He practiced last week too and did not play, so 1382 01:09:16,720 --> 01:09:18,680 Speaker 1: I must I I'm assuming we do get him back, 1383 01:09:18,720 --> 01:09:20,439 Speaker 1: and I think that's sort of the heart beating heart 1384 01:09:20,479 --> 01:09:22,280 Speaker 1: of their of their offense. So that's good for Detroit. 1385 01:09:22,360 --> 01:09:28,400 Speaker 1: Anybody absolutely hate to his game against four turnover worthy. 1386 01:09:28,479 --> 01:09:30,320 Speaker 1: He's so lucky in some of these games. He doesn't 1387 01:09:30,320 --> 01:09:33,920 Speaker 1: have three people really is Jimmy. They're the Jimmy G comparisons. 1388 01:09:33,960 --> 01:09:36,200 Speaker 1: I think it was our guest Steve Palazola, who I 1389 01:09:36,240 --> 01:09:39,200 Speaker 1: heard make it first early. There's a lot of Jimmy 1390 01:09:39,240 --> 01:09:40,840 Speaker 1: G to him, and he gets the same offense, but 1391 01:09:40,880 --> 01:09:43,640 Speaker 1: there's a lot of jim and he certainly deserves some 1392 01:09:43,800 --> 01:09:47,360 Speaker 1: rope here um because of the layoff and obviously the 1393 01:09:47,439 --> 01:09:51,160 Speaker 1: nature of the injury. And I know I've mentioned this before, 1394 01:09:51,160 --> 01:09:53,320 Speaker 1: but I just got to do it again because I 1395 01:09:53,400 --> 01:09:57,439 Speaker 1: know the statistically certain players, it all makes sense, like, oh, 1396 01:09:57,520 --> 01:09:59,519 Speaker 1: you know this is working. This is the Miami offense 1397 01:09:59,600 --> 01:10:01,840 Speaker 1: is working. But you take out the week to fourth 1398 01:10:01,920 --> 01:10:08,720 Speaker 1: quarter and these are their points by week fifteen, seventeen, 1399 01:10:09,080 --> 01:10:12,639 Speaker 1: sixteen sixteen. There's some defensive scores in there too. Yeah, 1400 01:10:12,640 --> 01:10:14,519 Speaker 1: there's a couple in there. You'd have to say, though 1401 01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:17,160 Speaker 1: in another universe like Tyreek, Hill's not working out at 1402 01:10:17,200 --> 01:10:20,360 Speaker 1: all and there's a big problem there at the offense. 1403 01:10:20,439 --> 01:10:23,759 Speaker 1: The windows he's throwing into are huge, but they'll probably 1404 01:10:23,760 --> 01:10:26,120 Speaker 1: be huge this week. He does do certain things well, 1405 01:10:26,120 --> 01:10:28,160 Speaker 1: he gets rid of the ball. You'd like him to 1406 01:10:28,200 --> 01:10:30,439 Speaker 1: be more accurate than he wasn't would have point it 1407 01:10:30,479 --> 01:10:32,320 Speaker 1: wasn't a strong game, I'd have to guess, and I 1408 01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:34,400 Speaker 1: haven't looked at it. Maybe grave there you can check 1409 01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:37,720 Speaker 1: it out that both Wattle and Hill on pace to 1410 01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:41,360 Speaker 1: go over like twelve yards receiving um Hill like about 1411 01:10:41,400 --> 01:10:44,080 Speaker 1: eighteen he might be Yeah, I'm sure he's way over that. 1412 01:10:44,120 --> 01:10:46,840 Speaker 1: I was kind of low barring it there. But so 1413 01:10:47,280 --> 01:10:49,320 Speaker 1: the numbers of there when you looked at Oh, these 1414 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:52,200 Speaker 1: two guys watch out, but they're just not scoring enough points. 1415 01:10:52,320 --> 01:10:56,000 Speaker 1: And I think this is a good matchup um for 1416 01:10:56,160 --> 01:10:59,200 Speaker 1: the Miami Dolphins. But with the Lions. Yeah, did they 1417 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:04,280 Speaker 1: peek early off pensively probably, but they're healthier now. Is 1418 01:11:04,320 --> 01:11:07,760 Speaker 1: DeAndre Swift in this game? We think? We think so. 1419 01:11:08,040 --> 01:11:10,599 Speaker 1: I do worry about Jared Goff though against this blitz 1420 01:11:10,640 --> 01:11:14,040 Speaker 1: heavy defense, we can do some similar things to what 1421 01:11:14,160 --> 01:11:16,720 Speaker 1: the Patriots did to them. Yeah, let's let's find a 1422 01:11:16,720 --> 01:11:18,880 Speaker 1: way Detroit team of a t L to get off 1423 01:11:18,880 --> 01:11:21,519 Speaker 1: the mad here and get a win, just to kind 1424 01:11:21,520 --> 01:11:25,280 Speaker 1: of pump some vibes into that building at one in five. 1425 01:11:25,320 --> 01:11:27,559 Speaker 1: It has been a very very bad start for them, 1426 01:11:27,560 --> 01:11:30,360 Speaker 1: and I just can't quite frankly, I can't deal with 1427 01:11:30,360 --> 01:11:33,400 Speaker 1: another Sunday night flagship program where we're listening to Dan 1428 01:11:33,439 --> 01:11:37,800 Speaker 1: Campbell in the shots up to us. We could just 1429 01:11:37,840 --> 01:11:41,200 Speaker 1: take him out of the show, but we've established they're 1430 01:11:41,240 --> 01:11:44,240 Speaker 1: the team of a t N. He's good, he's good copy, 1431 01:11:44,560 --> 01:11:47,880 Speaker 1: he's good sound, and we just tapped into his damn 1432 01:11:47,920 --> 01:11:51,120 Speaker 1: phone line and we heard the conversation with Joe Shane 1433 01:11:51,120 --> 01:11:54,240 Speaker 1: of the Gems. So there's a lot of things going 1434 01:11:54,280 --> 01:11:58,439 Speaker 1: on here about Well maybe maybe like since we only 1435 01:11:58,479 --> 01:12:02,080 Speaker 1: had that tap working, you know, it ran out, it 1436 01:12:02,200 --> 01:12:05,840 Speaker 1: only worked on Wednesday, maybe he will make that trade 1437 01:12:06,880 --> 01:12:08,640 Speaker 1: to apply for it. Yeah. I mean it's like, you know, 1438 01:12:08,800 --> 01:12:11,559 Speaker 1: you can only listen to amount of time. I've I've 1439 01:12:11,600 --> 01:12:13,800 Speaker 1: watched the wire, so I'm an expert here, and you 1440 01:12:13,840 --> 01:12:15,720 Speaker 1: know you have to apply for a certain amount of 1441 01:12:15,720 --> 01:12:18,640 Speaker 1: time and then it runs out, and then well if 1442 01:12:18,640 --> 01:12:23,880 Speaker 1: you're operating through the law. We also if you if 1443 01:12:23,880 --> 01:12:28,160 Speaker 1: you're in the van um dressed as like a utility company, um, 1444 01:12:28,200 --> 01:12:30,519 Speaker 1: you could listen. Uh, and then as soon as they 1445 01:12:30,560 --> 01:12:34,000 Speaker 1: start talking about something personally, you gotta click off which 1446 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,320 Speaker 1: and then you go back to your newspaper and you say, 1447 01:12:37,400 --> 01:12:39,479 Speaker 1: we gotta wait, we gotta wait for a few minutes, 1448 01:12:39,720 --> 01:12:41,920 Speaker 1: and then you check back in. There is a code 1449 01:12:42,200 --> 01:12:47,400 Speaker 1: television taught uses update on your Dolphins receiver question. Tyreek 1450 01:12:47,439 --> 01:12:50,320 Speaker 1: Hill leads the league and receiving yards. They've played seven games. 1451 01:12:50,360 --> 01:12:52,200 Speaker 1: Lots of teams only played six games. Tyry Hill leads 1452 01:12:52,200 --> 01:12:54,360 Speaker 1: the league and receiving yards per game on pace for 1453 01:12:54,479 --> 01:12:57,080 Speaker 1: eighteen seventy six. Jalen Waddle fifth in the league and 1454 01:12:57,080 --> 01:12:59,759 Speaker 1: receiving yards per game on pace for fifteen o seven, 1455 01:12:59,800 --> 01:13:03,880 Speaker 1: so over yards and yet they score seventeen points. A 1456 01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:10,040 Speaker 1: game producer, just a good job. He's great. Thank you 1457 01:13:10,120 --> 01:13:13,519 Speaker 1: for in the running games to Initially I would say 1458 01:13:13,520 --> 01:13:15,160 Speaker 1: that would be what was off, but now most they're 1459 01:13:15,160 --> 01:13:17,439 Speaker 1: it's getting rolling. So what's up? Where are they scored 1460 01:13:17,479 --> 01:13:20,120 Speaker 1: more points? I don't have a good ends. Does anybody 1461 01:13:20,240 --> 01:13:22,280 Speaker 1: like what's going on? They a red zone disaster? I 1462 01:13:22,280 --> 01:13:26,160 Speaker 1: wonder if it's good points per driving. Yeah, past protection 1463 01:13:26,240 --> 01:13:28,639 Speaker 1: for the weeks that Armstead was out, but now they're 1464 01:13:28,680 --> 01:13:30,520 Speaker 1: good in the red zone. Had a bunch of quarterbacks 1465 01:13:30,520 --> 01:13:33,000 Speaker 1: obviously that you know that will lead to a little 1466 01:13:34,240 --> 01:13:36,679 Speaker 1: with the offense. But they were still moving the ball 1467 01:13:36,680 --> 01:13:38,120 Speaker 1: in those games, a lot of yards, a lot of 1468 01:13:38,160 --> 01:13:42,559 Speaker 1: field goals, at least in the last month. Mhmm. A 1469 01:13:42,600 --> 01:13:45,599 Speaker 1: bit mysterious, a bit of an unsolved mystery. Robert Stack style, 1470 01:13:46,040 --> 01:13:49,280 Speaker 1: the Dolphins and their offense, Tampa Bay impression. I was 1471 01:13:49,280 --> 01:13:51,559 Speaker 1: gonna do a snake, but Greg, that was your pick. 1472 01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:53,519 Speaker 1: So we're up to Mark Cla. All right, I'm gonna 1473 01:13:53,520 --> 01:13:56,640 Speaker 1: go on Panthers at Falcons. There's not a lot to 1474 01:13:56,640 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: pick from at this point, but I I do find 1475 01:13:58,840 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: obviously what happened with J Walker a week ago makes 1476 01:14:01,960 --> 01:14:07,040 Speaker 1: the Panthers more compelling visually to me. Falcons, I think 1477 01:14:07,080 --> 01:14:09,759 Speaker 1: you can be the Falcons have the thirty second ranked 1478 01:14:09,800 --> 01:14:12,160 Speaker 1: past defense, so maybe p J. Walker, who made some 1479 01:14:12,280 --> 01:14:15,920 Speaker 1: absolutely beautiful throws a week ago, the touchdown to DJ More, 1480 01:14:15,960 --> 01:14:18,840 Speaker 1: the touchdown to Tommy Tremble, Uh, I think that can 1481 01:14:18,880 --> 01:14:21,200 Speaker 1: happen again. And they they're showing faith in him. He's 1482 01:14:21,200 --> 01:14:23,680 Speaker 1: out look at how many guys come in like a P. J. 1483 01:14:23,800 --> 01:14:28,480 Speaker 1: Walker and suddenly outshine the first overall pick and finger mayfield. 1484 01:14:28,560 --> 01:14:30,960 Speaker 1: Sam Donald's not seeing the field. Let's see if you 1485 01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:33,960 Speaker 1: can do it against Atlanta's last ranked past defense, who 1486 01:14:33,960 --> 01:14:36,160 Speaker 1: gave four hundred and eighty three yards a We could 1487 01:14:36,160 --> 01:14:38,439 Speaker 1: go to Joe Burrow and how did they respond on offense? 1488 01:14:38,439 --> 01:14:40,080 Speaker 1: This is what bothers me a little bit with the Falcons, 1489 01:14:40,120 --> 01:14:42,200 Speaker 1: because they're not built to get in if you don't 1490 01:14:42,280 --> 01:14:44,360 Speaker 1: have the lead. What Atlanta wants to do does not 1491 01:14:44,400 --> 01:14:47,080 Speaker 1: work on offense. They had Mariota throw thirteen passes a 1492 01:14:47,080 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: week ago when they had given up a ton of 1493 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:51,760 Speaker 1: points out of the gate. He threw fourteen the week before. 1494 01:14:51,800 --> 01:14:53,560 Speaker 1: They just don't trust him through the air. And you 1495 01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:55,720 Speaker 1: gotta be able to team. You gotta be even and 1496 01:14:55,800 --> 01:14:57,800 Speaker 1: run the ball if you're Atlanta, otherwise you're in hot water. 1497 01:14:58,120 --> 01:15:00,280 Speaker 1: On the Sunday Show, they were They were trailed by 1498 01:15:00,320 --> 01:15:02,840 Speaker 1: double digits for fifty game minutes of that game and 1499 01:15:02,840 --> 01:15:05,599 Speaker 1: he's still finished with thirteen passes. And so there's there's 1500 01:15:05,640 --> 01:15:08,240 Speaker 1: this thing going on because we also you have Kyle 1501 01:15:08,320 --> 01:15:10,880 Speaker 1: Pitts and Drake London, the last top ten picks in 1502 01:15:10,880 --> 01:15:13,599 Speaker 1: the last two years. And then you have the way 1503 01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,519 Speaker 1: that Arthur Smiths choosing to run the offense, and there's 1504 01:15:16,560 --> 01:15:19,479 Speaker 1: a disconnect there, and I wonder what it's all about. 1505 01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,080 Speaker 1: By the way, shout out to all my fellow Kyle 1506 01:15:22,120 --> 01:15:24,920 Speaker 1: Pitts fantasy owners out there, this is the last stand 1507 01:15:25,200 --> 01:15:28,040 Speaker 1: we we We've waited, and we've waited. If they don't 1508 01:15:28,040 --> 01:15:30,080 Speaker 1: put up some points and he doesn't get some targets 1509 01:15:30,120 --> 01:15:32,680 Speaker 1: against the Panthers, we need to move and find something else. 1510 01:15:32,680 --> 01:15:35,519 Speaker 1: Go get Tyler Higbee or something off the waiver wire. 1511 01:15:35,640 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: A little fantasy nug for you. But I'm just curious, Greggy, 1512 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:44,080 Speaker 1: why why do we treat Marcus Mariotta as if he's 1513 01:15:44,360 --> 01:15:48,120 Speaker 1: Tim Tebow or Cordell Stewart like they're not. I know 1514 01:15:48,200 --> 01:15:50,519 Speaker 1: he's not a gifted passer of the football, but he's 1515 01:15:50,560 --> 01:15:53,960 Speaker 1: treated as if do not, under any circumstance, let this 1516 01:15:54,000 --> 01:15:57,200 Speaker 1: thing turn into a passing passing off. It's crazy. Last 1517 01:15:57,200 --> 01:16:00,000 Speaker 1: week in that game, they were running on first down 1518 01:16:00,160 --> 01:16:01,840 Speaker 1: the whole time they were trying to come back. The 1519 01:16:01,880 --> 01:16:04,559 Speaker 1: Patriots did it too with Bailey's appy, but I think 1520 01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:07,800 Speaker 1: that's telling that Bailey's Appy and Mariota are getting treated 1521 01:16:07,880 --> 01:16:11,479 Speaker 1: the same. Honestly, it was kind of insane. They weren't 1522 01:16:11,479 --> 01:16:14,640 Speaker 1: playing hurry up. They continued to run the ball. I 1523 01:16:14,760 --> 01:16:18,799 Speaker 1: worry about this matchup for Atlanta because, as I mentioned 1524 01:16:18,960 --> 01:16:21,639 Speaker 1: a week ago that the Falcons lost A. J. Terrell, 1525 01:16:21,680 --> 01:16:24,360 Speaker 1: who's their best player. Doesn't sound like he's gonna play 1526 01:16:24,600 --> 01:16:27,280 Speaker 1: Casey Hayward's now on I R. I would say maybe 1527 01:16:27,280 --> 01:16:30,519 Speaker 1: they're second best player along with Grady Jared of course 1528 01:16:30,720 --> 01:16:33,040 Speaker 1: up front, but they're two best in the secondary certainly, 1529 01:16:34,720 --> 01:16:37,160 Speaker 1: you know, and that we talked about the Panthers, we're 1530 01:16:37,200 --> 01:16:39,439 Speaker 1: gonna be mentioned kind of last and they were this 1531 01:16:39,520 --> 01:16:42,439 Speaker 1: dead team. They win this game and the Bucks lose 1532 01:16:42,479 --> 01:16:44,559 Speaker 1: on Thursday night, which maybe has already happened if you 1533 01:16:44,560 --> 01:16:47,360 Speaker 1: listen to this, they're in first place, so they are 1534 01:16:47,400 --> 01:16:49,880 Speaker 1: no they are in this season if they win this 1535 01:16:49,920 --> 01:16:53,760 Speaker 1: game and just beating the Bucks and Panthers in being 1536 01:16:53,880 --> 01:16:55,640 Speaker 1: three and oh the in the division because remember they 1537 01:16:55,640 --> 01:16:58,400 Speaker 1: beat the Saints earlier too. I mean, they're they're in 1538 01:16:58,479 --> 01:17:00,920 Speaker 1: this thing. I don't think they're like a could be 1539 01:17:00,960 --> 01:17:02,840 Speaker 1: a good team, but they could be a seven and 1540 01:17:02,880 --> 01:17:04,800 Speaker 1: ten team that ties to win this Division or a 1541 01:17:04,920 --> 01:17:07,439 Speaker 1: classic preserker down the stretch. If they played the way 1542 01:17:07,439 --> 01:17:10,120 Speaker 1: it could be that weird Panthers Cam Newton team, remember 1543 01:17:10,160 --> 01:17:13,840 Speaker 1: that where they went seven and they had a terrible 1544 01:17:13,840 --> 01:17:16,120 Speaker 1: start on a rivera. Then they yes, they came surging 1545 01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:20,760 Speaker 1: back seven and nine. They've changed the game. That's the 1546 01:17:20,800 --> 01:17:25,120 Speaker 1: second season with the seventeen games schedule really polarizing, but 1547 01:17:25,200 --> 01:17:28,479 Speaker 1: more football. I did like seeing this Steve Wilkes locker 1548 01:17:28,560 --> 01:17:31,240 Speaker 1: room thing. I mean they celebrated that thing like they 1549 01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:34,599 Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl, and uh, it's been a down season, 1550 01:17:34,680 --> 01:17:38,599 Speaker 1: so good for Steve Wilkes. Ya'm just saying it's been 1551 01:17:38,680 --> 01:17:41,760 Speaker 1: so miserable that you couldn't have this moment of pure joy. 1552 01:17:41,800 --> 01:17:45,280 Speaker 1: Maybe it carries over, maybe not. Just move on after 1553 01:17:45,320 --> 01:17:49,920 Speaker 1: this break? All right, here we go, zeuser is up. 1554 01:17:50,400 --> 01:17:53,040 Speaker 1: Pickings are slim, So let me go grab a late 1555 01:17:53,080 --> 01:17:56,800 Speaker 1: game here. I don't want to watch the Commanders and 1556 01:17:56,920 --> 01:18:02,920 Speaker 1: Sam Ellinger, so let's go with your Tennessee Titans at 1557 01:18:02,960 --> 01:18:07,800 Speaker 1: the Houston Texans. That's available, correct, that is available? It 1558 01:18:07,920 --> 01:18:11,000 Speaker 1: is you'd be stealing it potentially from Graver. I like that. 1559 01:18:11,640 --> 01:18:14,400 Speaker 1: Make him, you know, watch the Colts. Justin and I 1560 01:18:14,479 --> 01:18:18,280 Speaker 1: have a nice working arrangement. Uh, and we will tag 1561 01:18:18,320 --> 01:18:20,840 Speaker 1: team this game. Cool. I'd also be happy to watch 1562 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,080 Speaker 1: hook them Sam Ellinger's first NFL start, That's what I mean. 1563 01:18:24,160 --> 01:18:27,479 Speaker 1: We might need a fourth paradise. That's wonderful, all right, 1564 01:18:27,600 --> 01:18:29,800 Speaker 1: so that let me take care of this game. The 1565 01:18:29,840 --> 01:18:34,080 Speaker 1: Tennessee Titans four and two UM travel to Houston to 1566 01:18:34,160 --> 01:18:39,360 Speaker 1: face the Texans. And yes, we have Davis Mills coming off. 1567 01:18:39,439 --> 01:18:43,280 Speaker 1: Let me start something positive here. Davis Mills was bad 1568 01:18:43,320 --> 01:18:46,160 Speaker 1: for five weeks, went into the bye, and then was 1569 01:18:46,200 --> 01:18:51,720 Speaker 1: professional um against the Raiders in a loss. UM. You have, 1570 01:18:51,960 --> 01:18:54,960 Speaker 1: of course Damian Pierce, who it's gonna give you a 1571 01:18:55,080 --> 01:18:58,160 Speaker 1: hundred plus total yards every game, so you have something cooking. 1572 01:18:58,160 --> 01:19:00,720 Speaker 1: There was Brandon Cook's gonna be on the team as 1573 01:19:00,720 --> 01:19:04,360 Speaker 1: of right now, he is, but we shall see. Uh 1574 01:19:04,400 --> 01:19:06,280 Speaker 1: come Sunday a little late in the week to trade 1575 01:19:06,320 --> 01:19:09,160 Speaker 1: for him. But hey, you know the NFL. Oh, anything 1576 01:19:09,160 --> 01:19:11,719 Speaker 1: can happen. Can I ask you a question? Sure, Christian 1577 01:19:11,800 --> 01:19:14,200 Speaker 1: McCaffrey one of them was he traded for point made 1578 01:19:14,360 --> 01:19:19,640 Speaker 1: Thursday night? There you go, boom. I don't yeah, that 1579 01:19:19,720 --> 01:19:22,200 Speaker 1: was good. I don't think it's the same started chemistry market. 1580 01:19:22,240 --> 01:19:24,200 Speaker 1: I have had this show. But it's good. It's good. 1581 01:19:24,600 --> 01:19:28,120 Speaker 1: I don't know you felt the need to kind of 1582 01:19:28,439 --> 01:19:30,960 Speaker 1: say that makes me know you're worried. Says more about 1583 01:19:32,360 --> 01:19:35,639 Speaker 1: old Greggy. Um. Alright, anyway, so you got the Texans 1584 01:19:35,680 --> 01:19:37,800 Speaker 1: of the Times. I love that the way things are 1585 01:19:37,840 --> 01:19:39,800 Speaker 1: setting up here for Tennessee. I've talked about it. I 1586 01:19:39,800 --> 01:19:43,160 Speaker 1: don't need to belabor it. Uh. They're well coached, they 1587 01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:45,400 Speaker 1: have a great running game, they have a quarterback that's 1588 01:19:45,400 --> 01:19:47,439 Speaker 1: not gonna kill them, and they've been through the Wars. 1589 01:19:47,479 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 1: They're gonna win a lot of close games. Like the 1590 01:19:49,360 --> 01:19:52,280 Speaker 1: gi Men. They're the ger Men in the a f 1591 01:19:52,360 --> 01:19:54,479 Speaker 1: C where you're not gonna You're not gonna be totally 1592 01:19:54,760 --> 01:19:56,439 Speaker 1: You're not gonna be totally thrilled when you see them 1593 01:19:56,479 --> 01:19:59,720 Speaker 1: hosting a playoff game in January. But guess what, They're 1594 01:19:59,720 --> 01:20:02,760 Speaker 1: gonna have their eleven wins and away they go. So 1595 01:20:02,800 --> 01:20:04,719 Speaker 1: I think this is another one. I'm a little greg. 1596 01:20:04,760 --> 01:20:06,880 Speaker 1: Maybe you could offer something to me in a way 1597 01:20:07,160 --> 01:20:09,960 Speaker 1: and in the way of an explanation, because Vegas has 1598 01:20:10,000 --> 01:20:12,400 Speaker 1: this game, and I believe one and a half. I've 1599 01:20:12,400 --> 01:20:13,960 Speaker 1: got a great one and a half. I've got a 1600 01:20:13,960 --> 01:20:17,640 Speaker 1: great one. Go ahead, Ryan, Tannehill's status is up in 1601 01:20:17,680 --> 01:20:21,719 Speaker 1: the air, and that is I think for that number. 1602 01:20:21,760 --> 01:20:23,880 Speaker 1: As the week goes on, it seems much more likely 1603 01:20:23,880 --> 01:20:26,559 Speaker 1: that Ryan Tannehill will play. And I think it's gone 1604 01:20:26,600 --> 01:20:27,840 Speaker 1: from one and a half to two and a half. 1605 01:20:27,880 --> 01:20:30,040 Speaker 1: Are they saying on the beat? Uh? He's said of 1606 01:20:30,040 --> 01:20:32,000 Speaker 1: the boot, he's out of the boot. He spoke at 1607 01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,880 Speaker 1: the press conference. He hasn't been participating in practice, but 1608 01:20:35,000 --> 01:20:37,200 Speaker 1: that was expected. He said he's getting all the mental 1609 01:20:37,240 --> 01:20:39,280 Speaker 1: reps he can get. I would be very surprised if 1610 01:20:39,320 --> 01:20:43,439 Speaker 1: Tannehill doesn't play, right, but I think it was is 1611 01:20:43,560 --> 01:20:46,639 Speaker 1: like plant do you think he's playing? I think he's playing. 1612 01:20:46,640 --> 01:20:49,800 Speaker 1: Then I'm locking up the Titans. Give me it. Well, 1613 01:20:50,400 --> 01:20:52,439 Speaker 1: I have to let you know something, yes, sir, and 1614 01:20:52,479 --> 01:20:55,360 Speaker 1: this you know Greg, you can see right here. I 1615 01:20:55,400 --> 01:20:59,479 Speaker 1: am also locking up the Titans chemistry and can I 1616 01:20:59,520 --> 01:21:03,559 Speaker 1: say something yes after getting basically bullied into doing it 1617 01:21:03,680 --> 01:21:05,760 Speaker 1: for the first time this year, I'm also locking up 1618 01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:11,800 Speaker 1: the Titans. What could go wrong? Going to be the 1619 01:21:11,880 --> 01:21:14,360 Speaker 1: letdown game? Let me hit you with the fact last 1620 01:21:14,439 --> 01:21:16,800 Speaker 1: year the Titans went into Houston on a six game 1621 01:21:16,840 --> 01:21:20,560 Speaker 1: winning streak and lost to a two and seven Texans 1622 01:21:20,600 --> 01:21:23,400 Speaker 1: team this year, they enter Houston on a four game 1623 01:21:23,400 --> 01:21:28,040 Speaker 1: winning streak up against the Wits team. That what happened 1624 01:21:28,120 --> 01:21:32,120 Speaker 1: last year, right, it's on their minds. It'll form them. 1625 01:21:32,120 --> 01:21:34,760 Speaker 1: They're not if you want to join this chemistry hive 1626 01:21:34,960 --> 01:21:37,720 Speaker 1: in this triple lock chem hive, chem hive, we don't 1627 01:21:37,880 --> 01:21:42,720 Speaker 1: need any of that like talk, that's floor and you 1628 01:21:42,720 --> 01:21:44,720 Speaker 1: guys are Aaron Rodgers right now? Is that what's happening here? 1629 01:21:44,960 --> 01:21:47,800 Speaker 1: But more or less, why are you bringing that just 1630 01:21:47,960 --> 01:21:50,639 Speaker 1: if you're locking it that you didn't even like them 1631 01:21:50,640 --> 01:21:55,479 Speaker 1: against the Commanders with reservations, Get your act together. Never 1632 01:21:55,560 --> 01:21:57,880 Speaker 1: locked with reservations. Derrick Henry has a chance for a 1633 01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:02,080 Speaker 1: fourth straight two hundred US yard rushing and two plus 1634 01:22:02,200 --> 01:22:09,920 Speaker 1: rushing touchdown game against the Texans. You're a Hall of 1635 01:22:09,920 --> 01:22:12,040 Speaker 1: famer when you have any type of nug like that, 1636 01:22:12,280 --> 01:22:14,479 Speaker 1: like Derrick Henry's a Hall of Fame running back. And 1637 01:22:14,560 --> 01:22:17,599 Speaker 1: I think, yes, I reserve the right to back out 1638 01:22:17,640 --> 01:22:21,880 Speaker 1: of this lock. If Ryan Tannehill is scratched, um, I'm 1639 01:22:21,880 --> 01:22:23,680 Speaker 1: gonna put that out there now. But as long as 1640 01:22:23,680 --> 01:22:25,800 Speaker 1: he's playing, they will take care of business. Yeah. I 1641 01:22:25,800 --> 01:22:28,559 Speaker 1: loved their pass special last week. Bud Dupree actually giving 1642 01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:32,240 Speaker 1: them something, uh, coming off an injury, and the Texans 1643 01:22:32,240 --> 01:22:34,640 Speaker 1: feel easy to pick against because they've quietly taken a 1644 01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:36,920 Speaker 1: huge step back on defense. It's hard to think the 1645 01:22:36,920 --> 01:22:39,160 Speaker 1: Texans could take a huge step back in anything, but 1646 01:22:39,240 --> 01:22:41,960 Speaker 1: their defense was frisky. It was like pretty close to 1647 01:22:42,040 --> 01:22:45,240 Speaker 1: average for most of last year, and now Lovey Smith's 1648 01:22:45,240 --> 01:22:49,040 Speaker 1: group is one of the worst defenses. Is anybody surprised? 1649 01:22:51,080 --> 01:22:54,320 Speaker 1: Particularly inspired? Okay, another moment that I took from Tuesday 1650 01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:56,559 Speaker 1: when Gara Folow was on when he said the Texans 1651 01:22:56,640 --> 01:22:59,400 Speaker 1: expected them to be better than they were. That threw me. Actually, 1652 01:22:59,439 --> 01:23:01,600 Speaker 1: that felt like set up for love Smith to be 1653 01:23:01,680 --> 01:23:06,120 Speaker 1: fired like that. Wherever that's coming from, it just started like, 1654 01:23:06,240 --> 01:23:08,920 Speaker 1: okay again on the road. Do you want to hear 1655 01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:10,880 Speaker 1: another weird one? I know it's the Texans, but I 1656 01:23:10,880 --> 01:23:15,400 Speaker 1: found this weird. Come ou Grugier Hill, their linebacker who's 1657 01:23:15,439 --> 01:23:17,320 Speaker 1: like been leading them in tackles, one of their better 1658 01:23:17,360 --> 01:23:24,519 Speaker 1: defensive players. No, no, but and he requested and received 1659 01:23:24,600 --> 01:23:28,320 Speaker 1: his release this week even though he's like played, you know, 1660 01:23:28,640 --> 01:23:30,840 Speaker 1: most of the season for the Texans. That just as 1661 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,760 Speaker 1: a still you could take the Easter be out of 1662 01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,240 Speaker 1: the Texans, but there's still some weird stuff going on. 1663 01:23:36,400 --> 01:23:42,439 Speaker 1: That's weird. What's that dude? Who's that dude? Yeah? That 1664 01:23:42,479 --> 01:23:46,720 Speaker 1: line go anywhere. Now, he's like Matthew mcconnie. He's a 1665 01:23:46,760 --> 01:23:51,559 Speaker 1: polarizing Kansas City based sports writer. Uh, talking head type 1666 01:23:51,640 --> 01:23:58,280 Speaker 1: dude anyway, Um, David Culley, Jason Whitlock, Whitlock Um, he 1667 01:23:58,400 --> 01:24:00,960 Speaker 1: had that Kansas City based through back in the day. 1668 01:24:01,000 --> 01:24:04,720 Speaker 1: Yet whenever someone is like getting the last laugh, like, 1669 01:24:04,800 --> 01:24:07,839 Speaker 1: oh so and so is cackling while rolling a blunt somewhere, 1670 01:24:08,200 --> 01:24:11,639 Speaker 1: that is Cully right now, It's like, whatever, you fired me, 1671 01:24:12,280 --> 01:24:14,840 Speaker 1: get my cackle on. He's still getting paid, So you know. 1672 01:24:21,800 --> 01:24:23,599 Speaker 1: It wasn't an endorsement, by the way, it was just 1673 01:24:24,080 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: remember that was one of his things. Let's move into 1674 01:24:27,200 --> 01:24:30,519 Speaker 1: my other pig, a little sloppy. I gotta have three 1675 01:24:30,600 --> 01:24:34,880 Speaker 1: yearly games with Life is Life Chicago. Basically we can 1676 01:24:34,920 --> 01:24:39,280 Speaker 1: do some postgame fixing training Chicago Bears at Dallas Cowboys. 1677 01:24:39,400 --> 01:24:41,320 Speaker 1: If I'm a Bears fan or if I'm in the 1678 01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:44,040 Speaker 1: locker room, I'm totally bummed. Right now. We had a 1679 01:24:44,320 --> 01:24:49,920 Speaker 1: really promising showing in prime time with our young quarterback, 1680 01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:53,880 Speaker 1: and we embarrassed Bill Belichick, who was going to set 1681 01:24:53,920 --> 01:24:58,200 Speaker 1: the record held by Mr bar himself, George Hollis, and 1682 01:24:58,280 --> 01:25:02,240 Speaker 1: we lay up beating on the Patriots. There was I 1683 01:25:02,240 --> 01:25:04,559 Speaker 1: think Roquan Smith had a great line. He said it 1684 01:25:04,600 --> 01:25:06,680 Speaker 1: was so quiet in that building that you could hear 1685 01:25:06,720 --> 01:25:10,080 Speaker 1: a rat piss. It's a little uncouth the line, but 1686 01:25:10,160 --> 01:25:12,839 Speaker 1: it's a great Actually did hear that? Then it's just factual. 1687 01:25:12,960 --> 01:25:14,760 Speaker 1: So then what are the Bears turn around to do? 1688 01:25:14,880 --> 01:25:18,160 Speaker 1: They trade like one of the most important players on 1689 01:25:18,200 --> 01:25:22,559 Speaker 1: the team, Robert quinn Um to the Eagles. So that's 1690 01:25:22,560 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 1: a real letdown I imagine inside that locker room in 1691 01:25:25,360 --> 01:25:27,479 Speaker 1: terms of do you really believe in us? Because we 1692 01:25:27,640 --> 01:25:30,639 Speaker 1: just got our third win in a wide open league 1693 01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,360 Speaker 1: and now you just you told us you're playing for tomorrow, 1694 01:25:33,439 --> 01:25:35,360 Speaker 1: not for today. So I don't think the vibes are 1695 01:25:35,360 --> 01:25:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna be hot going into Dallas. I think the Cowboys 1696 01:25:38,080 --> 01:25:41,720 Speaker 1: are a team that listen, you watched that game and 1697 01:25:41,720 --> 01:25:45,240 Speaker 1: you say, oh, great, cowboys got healthy over the lines. 1698 01:25:46,200 --> 01:25:48,280 Speaker 1: If not for that Jamal Williams fumble, they're losing with 1699 01:25:48,280 --> 01:25:50,639 Speaker 1: ten minutes to play in that game, So that they're 1700 01:25:50,640 --> 01:25:53,200 Speaker 1: not unbeatable by any stretch. I think the Cowboys, like 1701 01:25:53,200 --> 01:25:55,439 Speaker 1: I haven't at four in the power rankings, but this 1702 01:25:55,479 --> 01:25:57,639 Speaker 1: is a weird power rankings year. This They're more like 1703 01:25:57,960 --> 01:25:59,600 Speaker 1: a number ten team to me right now in a 1704 01:25:59,640 --> 01:26:02,599 Speaker 1: typical season. So it's not like the Bears have no chance, 1705 01:26:02,680 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 1: especially if Fields continues the game confidence greggy. But at 1706 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:09,080 Speaker 1: the same time, the Quinn thing, I really do think 1707 01:26:09,080 --> 01:26:11,479 Speaker 1: that could have a psychological effect on Chicago. Well, yeah, 1708 01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,439 Speaker 1: Roquan Smith was on the that was Crazy podium when 1709 01:26:15,520 --> 01:26:19,160 Speaker 1: the trade happened, so they asked him about it and 1710 01:26:19,439 --> 01:26:23,400 Speaker 1: he couldn't continue. He started, you know, getting emotional when 1711 01:26:23,400 --> 01:26:25,519 Speaker 1: he was talking, and then he left. And this is 1712 01:26:25,520 --> 01:26:28,320 Speaker 1: a guy who's had his own issues with the Bears, 1713 01:26:28,479 --> 01:26:31,160 Speaker 1: who was asking for a trade, but his bawling out 1714 01:26:31,160 --> 01:26:32,800 Speaker 1: and is one of their young best players and then 1715 01:26:33,439 --> 01:26:36,640 Speaker 1: upset that he wasn't the one that I think to 1716 01:26:36,720 --> 01:26:38,920 Speaker 1: see a guy that you look up to that's had 1717 01:26:39,479 --> 01:26:42,559 Speaker 1: an incredible career in Robert Quinn, and you must be 1718 01:26:42,600 --> 01:26:44,760 Speaker 1: one of the most respected people in that locker room 1719 01:26:44,840 --> 01:26:48,040 Speaker 1: and better players in locker room traded. You're You're right, 1720 01:26:48,080 --> 01:26:51,040 Speaker 1: I think that does damage. That said, their defense has 1721 01:26:51,080 --> 01:26:54,200 Speaker 1: played better each and every week. Their passing game, even 1722 01:26:54,200 --> 01:26:56,800 Speaker 1: though it's not great has played better in each of 1723 01:26:56,840 --> 01:26:58,679 Speaker 1: the last three weeks. I think has been their best 1724 01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,439 Speaker 1: three passing game week. The running game has been good 1725 01:27:01,800 --> 01:27:04,320 Speaker 1: all along. That game on Monday Night made me think 1726 01:27:04,720 --> 01:27:08,840 Speaker 1: the Bears have a shot to be frisky. Maybe they 1727 01:27:08,880 --> 01:27:14,519 Speaker 1: are frisky. Maybe they got to frisky with that because 1728 01:27:14,600 --> 01:27:16,200 Speaker 1: that was right at the moment where you're like, wait 1729 01:27:16,240 --> 01:27:17,960 Speaker 1: a second, alright, Bears, And I think it's a tough 1730 01:27:18,000 --> 01:27:20,200 Speaker 1: matchup because their offensive line has gotten by so far, 1731 01:27:20,280 --> 01:27:22,720 Speaker 1: but they have another injury there, another couple injuries there, 1732 01:27:22,840 --> 01:27:24,600 Speaker 1: and you're playing the Cowboys, so this might not be 1733 01:27:24,640 --> 01:27:27,439 Speaker 1: the week for We'll see. I'm curious. I think it's 1734 01:27:27,479 --> 01:27:30,479 Speaker 1: tough for Matt Eberflus to to lose Robert Quinn. I mean, 1735 01:27:30,520 --> 01:27:33,640 Speaker 1: it's just sort of a weird move because I I 1736 01:27:33,720 --> 01:27:36,559 Speaker 1: came out of Monday night games also thinking like, in 1737 01:27:36,600 --> 01:27:40,160 Speaker 1: this NFC, if Chicago can rebrand themselves on offense the 1738 01:27:40,160 --> 01:27:41,840 Speaker 1: way they have over the last month, and if you're 1739 01:27:41,880 --> 01:27:44,680 Speaker 1: gonna get justin Fields improving as a pastor the way 1740 01:27:44,720 --> 01:27:47,400 Speaker 1: as the last three weeks, you've got something here. Because 1741 01:27:47,400 --> 01:27:49,479 Speaker 1: he's so dangerous and hard to He's the kind of 1742 01:27:49,560 --> 01:27:50,920 Speaker 1: quarterback becau of what he can do on the ground. 1743 01:27:50,920 --> 01:27:53,080 Speaker 1: The defensive coordinators go nuts trying to figure out how 1744 01:27:53,120 --> 01:27:55,439 Speaker 1: to stop him. And it's not just him, it's Khalil Herbert, 1745 01:27:55,439 --> 01:27:58,519 Speaker 1: it's Montgomery. Like that's such a punishing ground game that 1746 01:27:58,600 --> 01:28:00,920 Speaker 1: when you have that, you can do anything. I think 1747 01:28:00,960 --> 01:28:03,320 Speaker 1: it's just for me the right. Also, you look at 1748 01:28:03,360 --> 01:28:06,040 Speaker 1: their defense third ranked past defense right now. Last week, 1749 01:28:06,080 --> 01:28:09,799 Speaker 1: Prescott eighteen from nineteen on throw shorter throws under fifteen 1750 01:28:09,840 --> 01:28:12,240 Speaker 1: yards one through six on fifteen plus yards through the air. 1751 01:28:12,640 --> 01:28:16,000 Speaker 1: I think that Dak, like like Mike McCarthy, zady said 1752 01:28:16,240 --> 01:28:17,880 Speaker 1: that he got better as the game went along, and 1753 01:28:17,920 --> 01:28:20,120 Speaker 1: he did, but it wasn't some sort of like, oh wow, 1754 01:28:20,160 --> 01:28:22,519 Speaker 1: we've got this version of Dak Prescott right now that 1755 01:28:22,600 --> 01:28:25,240 Speaker 1: takes the Cowboys totally over the top. It's okay, we 1756 01:28:25,920 --> 01:28:28,400 Speaker 1: had seen that yet, I to me think that this 1757 01:28:28,479 --> 01:28:30,479 Speaker 1: is a game for the Bears where they do have 1758 01:28:30,479 --> 01:28:32,840 Speaker 1: a chance. And I you gotta get over the Robert 1759 01:28:32,880 --> 01:28:34,920 Speaker 1: Quinn stuff because if this if what you if what 1760 01:28:35,040 --> 01:28:37,640 Speaker 1: they are is what they did against Bill Belichick in 1761 01:28:37,680 --> 01:28:40,320 Speaker 1: the Patriots week ago. The rest of this season is 1762 01:28:40,360 --> 01:28:43,200 Speaker 1: about the most promising stretch the Bears. Fans of experience 1763 01:28:43,240 --> 01:28:44,920 Speaker 1: in a very long time. If that's who they are, 1764 01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:51,880 Speaker 1: If justin Fields just like he's, he's Pollard is just 1765 01:28:51,920 --> 01:28:53,599 Speaker 1: the better. That's what I mean. That's why I care, 1766 01:28:53,600 --> 01:28:57,400 Speaker 1: because it's interesting. Everyone's been still he's not seen the 1767 01:28:57,479 --> 01:29:00,240 Speaker 1: saying Tony Pollard like if and get him, we we 1768 01:29:00,240 --> 01:29:02,080 Speaker 1: get to see him do everything. I love you. Well. 1769 01:29:02,080 --> 01:29:04,519 Speaker 1: They also have a bik having both of them. I 1770 01:29:04,560 --> 01:29:06,880 Speaker 1: think they I think they're nice tandem. I think the 1771 01:29:06,920 --> 01:29:11,679 Speaker 1: conversation sometimes excuse because it's the cowboys, like oh Zeke Kellett, 1772 01:29:11,720 --> 01:29:14,160 Speaker 1: he's terrible now never playing. I think they have something 1773 01:29:14,240 --> 01:29:16,880 Speaker 1: working with both of those guys. But I think Pollard. Yeah, 1774 01:29:16,920 --> 01:29:19,559 Speaker 1: it'll be good for Tony Pollard and fantasy owners that 1775 01:29:19,600 --> 01:29:22,679 Speaker 1: have been stashing him waiting for this very moment. Good 1776 01:29:22,720 --> 01:29:29,320 Speaker 1: for them who the finals. They're not. They're huge, huge favorites. 1777 01:29:29,360 --> 01:29:33,800 Speaker 1: They handled it fine last week. Defense shows up each 1778 01:29:33,840 --> 01:29:35,920 Speaker 1: and every week. There's there's not a lot of reason 1779 01:29:35,960 --> 01:29:38,439 Speaker 1: to think they won't this week. Alright, Mark, the last 1780 01:29:38,439 --> 01:29:41,280 Speaker 1: game falls to you, but we're going to get some 1781 01:29:41,320 --> 01:29:45,719 Speaker 1: help from the great digger commanders at Colts. All right, Uh, 1782 01:29:45,920 --> 01:29:48,960 Speaker 1: you know this should have been the Colts taking Matt 1783 01:29:49,040 --> 01:29:51,479 Speaker 1: Ryan into face Carson Wentz and proved that they made 1784 01:29:51,520 --> 01:29:55,240 Speaker 1: the right decision at quarterback. Instead. We we were weeks 1785 01:29:55,240 --> 01:29:58,400 Speaker 1: into the season and Matt Ryan is history and incomes 1786 01:29:58,400 --> 01:29:59,920 Speaker 1: Sam Elinger, which I just think it was a sen 1787 01:30:00,000 --> 01:30:03,320 Speaker 1: a move about Matt Ryan's guaranteed money. I think it 1788 01:30:03,360 --> 01:30:05,599 Speaker 1: was a move about Jim Mercy wanting to just change 1789 01:30:05,640 --> 01:30:08,840 Speaker 1: things up. The owner, uh ellenor gives you mobility. I 1790 01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:10,240 Speaker 1: guess that's what they keep saying. I mean, he did 1791 01:30:10,280 --> 01:30:13,759 Speaker 1: rush for thirty three touchdowns, uh in four seasons of Texas, 1792 01:30:13,760 --> 01:30:15,559 Speaker 1: so he does have that. And I guess you know 1793 01:30:15,760 --> 01:30:17,880 Speaker 1: the age of Matt Ryan, who at the stone age 1794 01:30:17,880 --> 01:30:20,559 Speaker 1: pony you cannot move in the pocket getting destroyed um 1795 01:30:20,760 --> 01:30:22,320 Speaker 1: was too tough on the eyes for the Colts to 1796 01:30:22,360 --> 01:30:25,200 Speaker 1: deal with. I kind of think that that I believe 1797 01:30:25,320 --> 01:30:27,320 Speaker 1: more in the commanders at this point than I do 1798 01:30:27,360 --> 01:30:29,479 Speaker 1: in the cults, because if the Colts want to be 1799 01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:31,760 Speaker 1: what they were last year when they overcame their terrible start, 1800 01:30:32,040 --> 01:30:34,400 Speaker 1: it starts with Jonathan Arroll. They're thirtieth in rushing right now, 1801 01:30:34,439 --> 01:30:36,240 Speaker 1: and I know he's been out the lineup. Hines has 1802 01:30:36,280 --> 01:30:38,479 Speaker 1: been out of the lineup, but I'm not sure that's 1803 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,280 Speaker 1: the team they are right now. That said one of 1804 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:43,320 Speaker 1: one of these like when you cannot pass protect, if 1805 01:30:43,360 --> 01:30:46,559 Speaker 1: you want to turn into a run blocking line and 1806 01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:49,679 Speaker 1: try to just unleash Jonathan Taylor with Ellenor at quarterback, 1807 01:30:49,800 --> 01:30:51,800 Speaker 1: I like your chances better than what was going on before, 1808 01:30:51,880 --> 01:30:53,800 Speaker 1: and get him on the move, get him outside the pocket. 1809 01:30:54,160 --> 01:30:57,720 Speaker 1: Let's hear from Matt Ryan, who, like the rest of us, 1810 01:30:57,800 --> 01:31:03,920 Speaker 1: was shocked his benching. I mean, individually and personally disappointed. 1811 01:31:05,760 --> 01:31:09,000 Speaker 1: You know, there's a player, as a competitor, wary out there. 1812 01:31:09,080 --> 01:31:14,360 Speaker 1: I wanted to reco and so, um it's part of 1813 01:31:14,880 --> 01:31:17,000 Speaker 1: the deal in this league. Gotta produce and you gotta 1814 01:31:17,040 --> 01:31:20,720 Speaker 1: go out there and playing. Frustrated that we weren't able 1815 01:31:20,760 --> 01:31:26,360 Speaker 1: to do that in the first seven games. Um forward, 1816 01:31:26,640 --> 01:31:30,720 Speaker 1: you know life, Oh my god, lead Sam production has 1817 01:31:30,760 --> 01:31:33,920 Speaker 1: to be there. So obviously disappointed personally, but um here 1818 01:31:33,920 --> 01:31:37,439 Speaker 1: for the team, we have Matt Ryan, the spilling his 1819 01:31:37,479 --> 01:31:40,240 Speaker 1: guts to the reporters about essentially potentially the end of 1820 01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:43,040 Speaker 1: his career, and then a spirited game of ping pong 1821 01:31:43,120 --> 01:31:45,960 Speaker 1: going on behind him with the other Cults players. It's 1822 01:31:46,000 --> 01:31:48,080 Speaker 1: it's just it's just funny. But I just want to 1823 01:31:48,080 --> 01:31:50,719 Speaker 1: say to that point, I read a really good article 1824 01:31:50,760 --> 01:31:54,919 Speaker 1: in The Ringer. Ben Slack wrote it um. The headline 1825 01:31:54,960 --> 01:31:57,439 Speaker 1: was the simple math behind the Coults decision to turn 1826 01:31:57,600 --> 01:32:01,960 Speaker 1: to Sam Ellinger Elleninger Ellen gurr Uh. And it was 1827 01:32:02,120 --> 01:32:04,880 Speaker 1: he wrote about which something was very interesting and made sense, 1828 01:32:04,960 --> 01:32:07,080 Speaker 1: like how what's going on with the league right now? 1829 01:32:07,200 --> 01:32:11,479 Speaker 1: More and more positive stresses being put on. Hey, we 1830 01:32:11,520 --> 01:32:13,679 Speaker 1: need a quarterback to save plays and if a play 1831 01:32:13,680 --> 01:32:16,280 Speaker 1: breaks down in the passing game, somebody that could turn 1832 01:32:16,439 --> 01:32:20,599 Speaker 1: a seven yard sack loss uh into a twenty yard rush. Uh. 1833 01:32:20,800 --> 01:32:24,160 Speaker 1: The scrambling of a quarterback has never been more effective. 1834 01:32:24,200 --> 01:32:27,160 Speaker 1: And it's and guys like Matt Ryan um or even 1835 01:32:27,240 --> 01:32:29,879 Speaker 1: Carson Wentz to a certain extent before him, or Philip 1836 01:32:29,920 --> 01:32:32,559 Speaker 1: Rivers before him, or Jacoby Brissette before him, and Indy 1837 01:32:32,840 --> 01:32:34,960 Speaker 1: those guys are dead when the pass rush gets there. 1838 01:32:35,080 --> 01:32:38,040 Speaker 1: Ellener gives them a chance to do some different things. 1839 01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,680 Speaker 1: And I think that is one of the reasons as 1840 01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:41,960 Speaker 1: well why they made this decision. He won this job 1841 01:32:42,000 --> 01:32:44,880 Speaker 1: in in August. Not that they expected Matt Ryan to 1842 01:32:44,960 --> 01:32:47,120 Speaker 1: play the way he did, but we talked that the 1843 01:32:47,160 --> 01:32:51,479 Speaker 1: preseason matters only so much for young quarterbacks. But it's 1844 01:32:52,280 --> 01:32:55,679 Speaker 1: mattering when you put your proof of concept as a player, 1845 01:32:55,720 --> 01:32:59,040 Speaker 1: as a second year player on paper. He had a 1846 01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:03,519 Speaker 1: fifty five yard rushing touchdown in the preseason where he 1847 01:33:03,560 --> 01:33:05,679 Speaker 1: made a couple of guys miss. He threw a bunch 1848 01:33:05,680 --> 01:33:08,439 Speaker 1: of touchdowns. He was accurate. He was not like get 1849 01:33:08,520 --> 01:33:11,200 Speaker 1: rid of the ball quickly guy. He's a little more 1850 01:33:11,680 --> 01:33:15,200 Speaker 1: hold the ball and make a play guy. Uh, without 1851 01:33:15,360 --> 01:33:18,840 Speaker 1: huge skill set. So maybe in their minds a better 1852 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:23,120 Speaker 1: version of Taylor, you know, like a similar type of player, 1853 01:33:23,200 --> 01:33:25,559 Speaker 1: but he's he's not the two like I'm gonna make 1854 01:33:25,600 --> 01:33:27,800 Speaker 1: all the right reads quickly, and you wouldn't expect that 1855 01:33:27,800 --> 01:33:29,800 Speaker 1: as a second year players about I think they're just 1856 01:33:30,040 --> 01:33:32,679 Speaker 1: hoping can add a little bit of playmaking. I think 1857 01:33:32,960 --> 01:33:37,720 Speaker 1: their excitement about him is at least genuine to the 1858 01:33:37,720 --> 01:33:40,080 Speaker 1: point where like they just couldn't watch Matt Ryan anymore. 1859 01:33:40,080 --> 01:33:41,920 Speaker 1: But man, that game last week when I went back 1860 01:33:41,960 --> 01:33:44,120 Speaker 1: to watch it, that I hope that's not his last game. 1861 01:33:44,120 --> 01:33:46,080 Speaker 1: It was one of the saddest. And you see, you 1862 01:33:46,120 --> 01:33:48,400 Speaker 1: could have once the pass rush got there, he either 1863 01:33:48,439 --> 01:33:50,800 Speaker 1: takes a sack, he gets hitt and fumbles, or he 1864 01:33:50,880 --> 01:33:53,320 Speaker 1: throws it up for grabs. And those are all looks 1865 01:33:53,320 --> 01:33:57,240 Speaker 1: like a quarterback of veteran pocket quarterback who looks cooked. 1866 01:33:57,360 --> 01:33:59,040 Speaker 1: But then you can say, well, what about last week 1867 01:33:59,040 --> 01:34:01,080 Speaker 1: when they had him throw it the times and he 1868 01:34:01,160 --> 01:34:02,880 Speaker 1: let him to come back win. But there was more 1869 01:34:03,200 --> 01:34:06,080 Speaker 1: so much more bad than good with Matt Ryan. So 1870 01:34:06,160 --> 01:34:08,639 Speaker 1: the moves doesn't It's not that the move doesn't make sense, 1871 01:34:08,880 --> 01:34:11,639 Speaker 1: it's what we know about the backdrop of the move 1872 01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:14,320 Speaker 1: and what was said before the season where you had 1873 01:34:14,400 --> 01:34:16,719 Speaker 1: them on record, the cult saying this isn't just about 1874 01:34:16,840 --> 01:34:18,800 Speaker 1: this year or even next year. We see him at 1875 01:34:18,880 --> 01:34:21,640 Speaker 1: least our starting, starting, starting quarterback for two years and 1876 01:34:21,640 --> 01:34:25,280 Speaker 1: then he's gone in eight weeks. The whole operation is 1877 01:34:25,320 --> 01:34:27,719 Speaker 1: sitting on the hot seat right now. For all the 1878 01:34:27,800 --> 01:34:30,080 Speaker 1: praise and love that we have given to Frank Reich 1879 01:34:30,200 --> 01:34:32,799 Speaker 1: over the years and assumed that quarter the next quarterback 1880 01:34:32,800 --> 01:34:34,040 Speaker 1: they bring in is going to be in a great 1881 01:34:34,080 --> 01:34:36,840 Speaker 1: situation in Indianapolis. And I mean Frank break said it, 1882 01:34:36,880 --> 01:34:39,200 Speaker 1: like what they sold Matt Ryan did not exist on 1883 01:34:39,200 --> 01:34:41,760 Speaker 1: this Colts team. The offensive line, like the fact that 1884 01:34:41,760 --> 01:34:43,640 Speaker 1: he'll be well protected, a great ground game, none of 1885 01:34:43,680 --> 01:34:45,760 Speaker 1: it's been true. And so if anything, switch it up 1886 01:34:45,760 --> 01:34:48,920 Speaker 1: and see what you get with it's desperate, but it's 1887 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:51,880 Speaker 1: like we already knew what they'd be the rest of 1888 01:34:51,920 --> 01:34:54,280 Speaker 1: the season with Matt Ryan. They're hoping that there's something 1889 01:34:54,720 --> 01:34:58,840 Speaker 1: with Sam Ballard. Ballard gave all that money to that 1890 01:34:58,920 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: offensive line and the picks, and that's who's struggling. And 1891 01:35:02,080 --> 01:35:04,240 Speaker 1: you know they're big, they're big name players are struggling. 1892 01:35:04,280 --> 01:35:08,000 Speaker 1: Quitn Nelson has not necessarily been the same. Ryan Kelly, 1893 01:35:08,040 --> 01:35:09,840 Speaker 1: who has made a Pro Bowl, has not been the same. 1894 01:35:09,880 --> 01:35:12,639 Speaker 1: And they're going up against the Washington team, which grades 1895 01:35:12,680 --> 01:35:15,320 Speaker 1: out as like winning in the past, rush and getting 1896 01:35:15,320 --> 01:35:17,280 Speaker 1: a ton of pressures a lot. I don't I don't 1897 01:35:17,320 --> 01:35:20,200 Speaker 1: see it because they're not like a good defense. But 1898 01:35:20,880 --> 01:35:24,599 Speaker 1: this isn't necessarily an easy first matchup that easy for Ellinger. 1899 01:35:24,680 --> 01:35:26,840 Speaker 1: Maybe he'll be under pressure if you'll lose this game. 1900 01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:30,400 Speaker 1: As a Cults, it just feels very like, oh, what 1901 01:35:30,520 --> 01:35:32,640 Speaker 1: do we do now? We just lost to the Commanders 1902 01:35:32,680 --> 01:35:36,400 Speaker 1: after making this big move. I have a thought on it. Yes, 1903 01:35:36,600 --> 01:35:38,400 Speaker 1: I think this is one of those we don't have 1904 01:35:38,400 --> 01:35:41,240 Speaker 1: a quarterback of the future. If Sam plays well, he 1905 01:35:41,280 --> 01:35:43,760 Speaker 1: could be our guy. If he plays poorly, we're going 1906 01:35:43,800 --> 01:35:45,439 Speaker 1: to get a high draft pick. And be in the 1907 01:35:45,479 --> 01:35:47,599 Speaker 1: mix for C. J. Stroud or Bryce Young or whoever. 1908 01:35:48,200 --> 01:35:50,320 Speaker 1: It's like Davis Mills Part two. And that's the way 1909 01:35:50,320 --> 01:35:54,840 Speaker 1: an owner thinks. It's not necessarily how you know, the 1910 01:35:54,920 --> 01:35:58,760 Speaker 1: head coach thinks. And that supports the theories of of 1911 01:35:58,800 --> 01:36:01,559 Speaker 1: how involved or say, I'm looking at the week eight 1912 01:36:01,600 --> 01:36:07,479 Speaker 1: announcer assignments and under this game it says Hansas Rosenthal, 1913 01:36:07,479 --> 01:36:10,479 Speaker 1: and oh that's cool, that's good. We would be great. 1914 01:36:10,640 --> 01:36:13,200 Speaker 1: So I guess we're just backups. No, it's actually Brandon Gauden, 1915 01:36:13,960 --> 01:36:19,000 Speaker 1: go godn you come to us with the pronunciation check sometimes. 1916 01:36:19,000 --> 01:36:21,599 Speaker 1: And Greg and I are Mr Scott Allinger, got Smith 1917 01:36:22,040 --> 01:36:26,120 Speaker 1: and Jen Hale. They do a great job. I love 1918 01:36:26,200 --> 01:36:29,360 Speaker 1: Jen Hale. I think she still does sidelines for the Pelicans, 1919 01:36:29,920 --> 01:36:33,880 Speaker 1: who have adopted as one of my NBA teams. Watching 1920 01:36:33,920 --> 01:36:37,479 Speaker 1: some local Pelicans pells, look, are you just loyal to basketball? Ultimately? 1921 01:36:37,520 --> 01:36:42,720 Speaker 1: All right, before we say goodbye, let's check in. Well, 1922 01:36:42,760 --> 01:36:45,960 Speaker 1: it's completely different than basketball. There is. Let's check in 1923 01:36:46,000 --> 01:36:48,880 Speaker 1: on the lock of the week standing ze Sir and 1924 01:36:49,080 --> 01:36:53,400 Speaker 1: Rosenthal at five and two. Uh, And then we have 1925 01:36:53,479 --> 01:36:56,240 Speaker 1: the Grave Digger at four and three, the West Brothers 1926 01:36:56,320 --> 01:36:59,120 Speaker 1: at three and four you know what? And then in 1927 01:36:59,200 --> 01:37:02,640 Speaker 1: tiny little matterin at the bottom, Oh, Sessler is involved too. 1928 01:37:03,760 --> 01:37:08,760 Speaker 1: I'll get my revenge market four and three clowns I 1929 01:37:08,800 --> 01:37:14,439 Speaker 1: always return. I love that you. Um, I mean, it's 1930 01:37:14,439 --> 01:37:18,559 Speaker 1: just an absurd bit. Just find it. I find it 1931 01:37:18,600 --> 01:37:20,800 Speaker 1: to be. It's obviously we're going to do the second 1932 01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:23,040 Speaker 1: we were in first place. They couldn't do that. But 1933 01:37:23,160 --> 01:37:26,360 Speaker 1: since yeah, yeah they could, they'll find something in the 1934 01:37:26,439 --> 01:37:29,680 Speaker 1: first place soon enough. What was that move? I'm not 1935 01:37:29,760 --> 01:37:32,120 Speaker 1: that annoyed by it. Well, that's good, But the for 1936 01:37:32,120 --> 01:37:36,160 Speaker 1: the audio listeners, I think it is disrespectful that you 1937 01:37:36,240 --> 01:37:39,200 Speaker 1: were not in the main grouping there. Thank you should 1938 01:37:39,200 --> 01:37:40,599 Speaker 1: be with the rest of us. No, I think it's 1939 01:37:40,640 --> 01:37:44,080 Speaker 1: it was disrespect and I'll figure out through my own investigations, 1940 01:37:44,120 --> 01:37:47,680 Speaker 1: my own wire tapping, who behind the glass is responsible 1941 01:37:47,720 --> 01:37:49,840 Speaker 1: for this and they will be punished. Uh, this is 1942 01:37:49,880 --> 01:37:53,120 Speaker 1: the bad news for you. The guy probably responsible is 1943 01:37:53,160 --> 01:37:57,160 Speaker 1: like six seven and hewears a wool cap and never smile, 1944 01:37:57,280 --> 01:38:00,200 Speaker 1: So you take him out at the knees six seven, 1945 01:38:02,880 --> 01:38:07,080 Speaker 1: good luck. I also like that the three of you guys, Grave, Digger, Sessler, 1946 01:38:07,240 --> 01:38:10,360 Speaker 1: and Hansas all on the same team. I mean the 1947 01:38:10,400 --> 01:38:13,080 Speaker 1: analytics would say this is a great week for me. 1948 01:38:13,200 --> 01:38:15,280 Speaker 1: That's what you would want is your team teammates to 1949 01:38:15,360 --> 01:38:18,280 Speaker 1: all but you had a terrible lock. So yeah, you're 1950 01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:21,960 Speaker 1: analytics say that we're in a good position there as well. 1951 01:38:22,439 --> 01:38:26,040 Speaker 1: Well that's that's your opinion and I don't share it. Yeah, 1952 01:38:26,320 --> 01:38:28,880 Speaker 1: all right, thank you everybody for listening. We will be 1953 01:38:29,120 --> 01:38:33,160 Speaker 1: back with the Friday Fun Show tomorrow, so make sure 1954 01:38:33,240 --> 01:38:36,960 Speaker 1: you're there. Patrick Claiban rejoining us UH in the fourth chair. 1955 01:38:37,560 --> 01:38:40,800 Speaker 1: Be part of the interactive experience ten am Pacific, one 1956 01:38:40,840 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 1: pm Eastern. Happy our time in London and surrounding territories. 1957 01:38:46,160 --> 01:38:49,559 Speaker 1: Until then, Dan hands the signing off four Quiet Storm, 1958 01:38:49,640 --> 01:38:53,320 Speaker 1: the Old Boss, the Grave Digger or Incredible Team behind 1959 01:38:53,360 --> 01:38:56,960 Speaker 1: the Class including six ft seven and the wool Cat. 1960 01:38:58,000 --> 01:39:26,160 Speaker 1: He the call s