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Speaker 2: He is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com and

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Speaker 2: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.

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Speaker 3: Cowboys blowing out of the backfield, exploding down the sidelines.

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Speaker 2: This he is Hanging with the Boys, presented by Wing

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Speaker 2: Stuff where Flavor gets its wings. Now, your hosts, Nate Newton,

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Speaker 2: Kurt Daniels, Jesse Holly, and Shannon Gross.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 5: Hanging with the Boys.

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Speaker 6: We were just having a good old conversation off camera.

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Speaker 6: We don't have the live shot of the plot, but

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Speaker 6: we will have it soon. But I can tell you

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Speaker 6: that it is a I don't understand this, man. It's

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Speaker 6: ninety nine degrees outside, but it feels like one hundred

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Speaker 6: and nine.

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Speaker 7: The hogh today is one hundred and four.

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Speaker 6: The load of Knight's actually eighty three, getting down close

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Speaker 6: to the seventies.

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Speaker 4: I don't understand what's going on, but I do understand this.

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Speaker 8: We we.

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Speaker 6: We subtracted one person from the set and we added

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Speaker 6: another person to the set. Welcome to the show. Surprise

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Speaker 6: in studio guests today, thank mister.

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Speaker 4: Saxon Sunday Surprise.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, he acted like he was going to be out

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Speaker 6: in Oxnard and you drove there yeah.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, I love about ten o'clock. By nine thirty yesterday

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Speaker 8: after doing mixed shots with him, and so I'm like,

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Speaker 8: everybody's leaving. I'm leaving too, everybody being Dallas. So it's

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Speaker 8: all happened in the downs.

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Speaker 7: I go to Dallas.

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Speaker 4: See that's just how Nate rolls.

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Speaker 6: For you that don't know the the ungodly amount of

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Speaker 6: texts we get when he's driving down the road, which

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Speaker 6: I actually enjoy. He just decides to pick up whenever.

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Speaker 6: Whatever he answers to no one, he marches to the

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Speaker 6: beat of his own drum, so he just.

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Speaker 4: Then yeah, but I'll leave it.

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Speaker 8: I'll leave Saturday morning and get there Sunday morning, you know,

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Speaker 8: but it's going back. I get a room Saturday and

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Speaker 8: then I finish up.

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Speaker 4: So wait, you're not even gonna watch the game.

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Speaker 8: Oh yeah, I watched the game, you know. I watch

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Speaker 8: a hotel, got my little phone, and I got this.

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Speaker 6: But you're not staying for so you didn't come in

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Speaker 6: to work the game. Now you came in just because

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Speaker 6: you didn't want to be in California. But everybody, so

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Speaker 6: you're driving hang on, let me get this right. You

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Speaker 6: driving two days here to spend the night Thursday, Friday,

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Speaker 6: one day.

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Speaker 8: You made it one day Wednesday, and I got here

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Speaker 8: this morning at nine o'clock.

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Speaker 4: So then you go stay Thursday night, Friday night and

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Speaker 4: turn around to drive.

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Speaker 8: So I get up Saturday morning probably about five thirty,

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Speaker 8: be out by seven, drive about fourteen hours, fifteen hours,

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Speaker 8: and then get up Sunday morning and finish.

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Speaker 4: You're you're a mad man. I thought you were working

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Speaker 4: the game. I thought that's why you came back.

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Speaker 9: I see that woman.

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Speaker 8: I guess I'm too old for the man.

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Speaker 4: We're glad you're in the studio.

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Speaker 8: Glad you're here. Because at first, when y'all when we

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Speaker 8: were talking about Jesse not being I'm like, how we're

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Speaker 8: gonna have a full show. And then I got to think, like,

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Speaker 8: I'm gonna be theres. These two guys wanna do the show.

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Speaker 8: I'll show up and we'll do the show. Yeah, heck yeah,

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Speaker 8: Because I mean we got a preseason game. Yeah, guys

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Speaker 8: got to play.

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Speaker 4: We got stuff to talk about. H Yeah. Plus I

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Speaker 4: need my I need my fifteen dollars.

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Speaker 7: Okay, I renegotiated. That's what took me a little long

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Speaker 8: Okay, all right.

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Speaker 4: Yes, sir, glad you're getting your ten Kurt. I'm glad

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Speaker 4: you're working for free again.

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Speaker 6: So anyway, all right, Nate, So now that you're in studio,

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Speaker 4: What what's going on at camp?

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Speaker 6: What what is there anything that's different this year or

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Speaker 8: The temple has been great, The temple has been solid.

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Speaker 8: But what what is off kilter is I'm used to

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Speaker 8: and these guys have a higher temple, but the defense

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Speaker 5: But one guy, no, it starts.

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Speaker 8: With that one guy, and it just affects the whole defense.

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Speaker 8: The first few days, the offense look like okay, off

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Speaker 8: But then like the third day passed, and the fourth

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Speaker 8: day and then the scrimmage, it's like we have a

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Speaker 8: is a team deal, but it's called pressure, so you

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Speaker 8: they run maybe twelve plays in the first fourth place

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Speaker 8: are just disrupted either by Parsons, DeMarcus Lawrence, OLSA. It's

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Speaker 8: get into a rhythm. You can't practice like that. You

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Speaker 8: can't start practice like that. That stuff can carry over

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Speaker 5: No, you have to come out and be the best

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Speaker 5: you can be. Now, you can't.

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Speaker 8: Scheme these guys doing practice. You can't scheme a Michael Parson,

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Speaker 8: you have to be better. You should be getting better

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Speaker 8: what does that mean for the preseason? That means that

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Speaker 8: the preseason, unless it's a first round pick, that's gonna

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Speaker 6: How much of that, how much of that defense set

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Speaker 8: Martin being gone, A lot of it, a lot of it.

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Speaker 5: They got the Shannon Kurt.

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Speaker 8: They have to let these guys play, because if you

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Speaker 8: don't know what these guys can do. We need to

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Speaker 8: put something together, you know, a little bit of money

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Speaker 8: They're not like the guy we drafted last year in

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Speaker 9: So should we tap the brakes a little bit on

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Speaker 9: how good this defense looks because they're facing an offensive

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Speaker 8: No, because we've seen this defense. We've seen this defense mean,

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Speaker 8: because they impressed me against the forty niners last year,

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Speaker 5: Game, they really impressed me.

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Speaker 8: And now that Gallimore and Bohannan said or now they

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Speaker 8: game up. So I like this even better. Hanks is Hanks,

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Speaker 8: Jonathan Hank's gonna do what he do. This defense is good.

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Speaker 8: It's just too bad that we don't have veterans going

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Speaker 6: All right, So I have a question. You've been out there,

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Speaker 6: You've talked to people. You might have gotten some information

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Speaker 8: What's going on?

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Speaker 6: Well, for let me ask you if I'm right here,

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Speaker 6: because looking from the outside, the more that I hear

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Speaker 4: I mean, he's what how much?

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Speaker 6: How much money is he that? Seven hundred grand? Seven

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Speaker 6: fifty to eight hundred up to eight hundred grand. That's

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Speaker 4: You've got to you know, it got to leave.

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Speaker 8: You got to pay it, right.

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Speaker 6: It almost seems like from the language that I'm hearing

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Speaker 4: Come off that.

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Speaker 8: Now.

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Speaker 6: Is there a chance this man is not there for

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Speaker 6: no way they're going to go into the season without

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Speaker 6: this guy. And the team just was like, now, is

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Speaker 6: that is that even possible? Because we've never seen that nobody.

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Speaker 8: We were shocked to a man when he first when

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Speaker 8: We'll lose a meal, okay now, but it gets bigger

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Speaker 8: when you start missing games. I think you're still getting

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Speaker 8: game check. So now shut down now after three games.

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Speaker 8: Even if you signed a new contract and they gave

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Speaker 7: Already paid it back. Yeah, played for free.

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Speaker 5: So uh, it's how bad now that due to cowboys?

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Speaker 8: If ball plays with well TJ. Bash, rise up and

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Speaker 8: be a little better than we think are artist kid

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Speaker 8: Richard's be a little bit better than we think. Uh,

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Speaker 8: let me look at it. I don't want to message

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Speaker 8: and now I'm trying to be I'm trying to be.

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Speaker 8: I'm trying. I'm trying to I'm trying to be better. Okay,

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Speaker 8: Matt Fourniacah, good job. If he is better, let's say

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Speaker 8: he can play right guard, and he can hang in there,

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Speaker 8: and coach McCarthy and coach Slari can put together a

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Speaker 8: without Zach. Well, they're gonna try again and now happen

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Speaker 8: to beat the Jets, the Cowboys. We do not have

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Speaker 8: and so and more importantly, our weakness, which I think

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Speaker 6: Nate Newton, Kurt Daniel, Shannon Gross, Jesse Holly's not with

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Speaker 6: So preseason game coming this weekend, Yes, sir, Saturday, crazy schedule.

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Speaker 6: Yes, so they it's weird because it'll be the only

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Speaker 8: who who is, Will Cooper or Dak no matter who's

441
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:44,479
Speaker 8: throwing him the ball, whether it's in the open field,

442
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,760
Speaker 8: whether it's in the red zone, whether it's third and one,

443
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:49,960
Speaker 8: and they wanted to throw a dump pass. He ain't

444
00:23:50,000 --> 00:23:54,399
Speaker 8: missed nothing. He ain't missed nothing. And I was talking

445
00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 8: to Will Mclass said Will, and I'm telling him the

446
00:23:58,280 --> 00:24:01,280
Speaker 8: same thing I'm telling you people. I say Dennis Houston

447
00:24:01,359 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 8: Nash had the big dog loving him. This guy has

448
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:12,399
Speaker 8: earned by flashing every chance he's had, rather than reds

449
00:24:12,440 --> 00:24:16,199
Speaker 8: on the open field or whatever, he's made catches. Now,

450
00:24:17,280 --> 00:24:19,639
Speaker 8: will the lights crushing. That's the only thing we're waiting on.

451
00:24:19,680 --> 00:24:23,239
Speaker 6: You got three Jalen's at the wide receiver position, you know,

452
00:24:24,200 --> 00:24:26,320
Speaker 6: Jalen Cropper and Jalen Brooks.

453
00:24:26,440 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 5: Jalen Tobert is having a nice camp.

454
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 6: You got like eighty seven Resist this dude. Have you

455
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:35,320
Speaker 6: even heard of Jalen Cropper, Jose Barbone, Dante.

456
00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:37,400
Speaker 8: Don't worry. Don't worry about the practice squad. Guys, don't

457
00:24:37,400 --> 00:24:37,959
Speaker 8: worry about him.

458
00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,480
Speaker 4: I ain't even heard of these guys.

459
00:24:40,600 --> 00:24:44,360
Speaker 7: Yeah, how much I've studied the roster them, so it's

460
00:24:44,400 --> 00:24:46,840
Speaker 7: it's like I just don't even know their names.

461
00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:50,639
Speaker 8: And but the thing about it is Turping is Turpin

462
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:54,040
Speaker 8: had the drops this the other day. You know, that's what.

463
00:24:53,800 --> 00:24:57,520
Speaker 8: That's what. But this kid has been his first two

464
00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:01,200
Speaker 8: or three days of practice was an outstand And that's

465
00:25:01,240 --> 00:25:05,520
Speaker 8: what people talking about Turping and Uh and and and Brooks.

466
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 8: But I didn't want to talk about Brooks. I'm like,

467
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:12,400
Speaker 8: you know what, Dennis Houston. But the difference is he

468
00:25:12,480 --> 00:25:16,199
Speaker 8: runs all first team, second team and third team and

469
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:17,840
Speaker 8: he plays all three pass.

470
00:25:17,680 --> 00:25:18,760
Speaker 4: Right, So who you got right now?

471
00:25:18,800 --> 00:25:22,760
Speaker 8: You got CD, you got Brandon Cooks, you got you

472
00:25:22,840 --> 00:25:25,080
Speaker 8: got Turping, you got Michael Gallen.

473
00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,480
Speaker 4: So you got you're putting Turping on the team already.

474
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:30,639
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, Turping still on.

475
00:25:31,880 --> 00:25:34,080
Speaker 4: CD, Cooks, Gallop, Turping.

476
00:25:34,480 --> 00:25:35,560
Speaker 5: That's the that's your top.

477
00:25:36,600 --> 00:25:37,720
Speaker 7: And then you're gonna keep what.

478
00:25:37,800 --> 00:25:40,920
Speaker 4: Six five at least five.

479
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 8: It's two.

480
00:25:42,040 --> 00:25:44,560
Speaker 5: It's two or three guys fight for that last position.

481
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 8: Dennis Houston, Jayalen tober Uh, Brooks and Brooks.

482
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 5: The way he's looking this preseason.

483
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 8: If he catched some balls in this preseason and he

484
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 8: played special teams.

485
00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,399
Speaker 5: See, this is what the guys don't do.

486
00:26:02,359 --> 00:26:05,440
Speaker 8: And so now who do you want come Sunday when

487
00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,879
Speaker 8: they chopping the roster down, They're like, well, we like

488
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:12,800
Speaker 8: Jayling Tober, they don't they don't play special teams.

489
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:15,600
Speaker 5: I like seem me for Hoko because he showed up

490
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:16,560
Speaker 5: in the preseason game.

491
00:26:16,960 --> 00:26:19,680
Speaker 8: But man, you don't play special teams. And so who

492
00:26:19,760 --> 00:26:23,359
Speaker 8: you think that long is fossil gonna be vibrator? Right? Yeah?

493
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:25,480
Speaker 4: All right, So I'm I'm looking at receivers.

494
00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:26,239
Speaker 7: Who you're gonna look at?

495
00:26:26,280 --> 00:26:26,480
Speaker 8: Kurt?

496
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 9: Well, you know it's maybe low hanging through, but I

497
00:26:31,800 --> 00:26:33,560
Speaker 9: kind of want to see what Deuce Bond does out there.

498
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:35,960
Speaker 4: I don't think anything.

499
00:26:36,000 --> 00:26:44,320
Speaker 13: I mean, he's trying to crack a joke on this guy.

500
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:47,880
Speaker 13: You mean to do that, Kurt, I'm gonna say right here, fellas,

501
00:26:47,880 --> 00:26:49,679
Speaker 13: I'm gonna say this right here. And I know I

502
00:26:49,720 --> 00:26:53,400
Speaker 13: have to be very careful because he's vertically challenged.

503
00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:59,040
Speaker 8: I'm familiar, but bruh, Shannon, and I am not joking

504
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:01,760
Speaker 8: because I was not no big fan of this kid.

505
00:27:01,800 --> 00:27:04,080
Speaker 8: And I was not because I was so scared that

506
00:27:04,119 --> 00:27:07,880
Speaker 8: he was so little. This this this is a full

507
00:27:07,920 --> 00:27:08,440
Speaker 8: grown man.

508
00:27:09,240 --> 00:27:12,440
Speaker 5: Uh, his calves is the size of mine.

509
00:27:12,520 --> 00:27:14,920
Speaker 8: Bro, And I'm looking at it. I'm like, who is that?

510
00:27:15,240 --> 00:27:18,040
Speaker 8: Oh that that's that's that's know. Everybody like, that's the

511
00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,760
Speaker 8: guy you ain't digging. I'm like, that's fun. Do you

512
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:24,000
Speaker 8: see him sitting up in the like were sitting up

513
00:27:24,359 --> 00:27:27,320
Speaker 8: and that's who is that? Oh that's the guy you

514
00:27:27,359 --> 00:27:27,879
Speaker 8: ain't digging.

515
00:27:27,880 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 7: And then he stands up and then he still looks

516
00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 7: like he's sitting.

517
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:34,000
Speaker 8: But bruh, he runs hard this preseason.

518
00:27:34,240 --> 00:27:36,800
Speaker 4: So you're saying it durability is not.

519
00:27:37,320 --> 00:27:41,800
Speaker 8: I am not worried about it no more anymore. This

520
00:27:41,840 --> 00:27:45,680
Speaker 8: is what gets me is I don't believe in gadget

521
00:27:45,680 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 8: players because gadget players are either gonna make you or

522
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:54,000
Speaker 8: break you. And I don't. I don't like him, and

523
00:27:54,119 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 8: I never looked at and I'll go back to turping

524
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:58,800
Speaker 8: when I used to last year, like throw him a screen,

525
00:27:58,920 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 8: do this too.

526
00:27:59,560 --> 00:28:01,320
Speaker 4: Well, guess when we get out to the practice, Guess

527
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:01,840
Speaker 4: what coach.

528
00:28:01,640 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 8: You're doing, Throwing in these screens, throwing in these quick

529
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 8: outs and ends inside the red zone, giving him giving

530
00:28:07,960 --> 00:28:10,920
Speaker 8: him that ball. The same thing I said, I said,

531
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:13,760
Speaker 8: all you gotta do is put him in motion. And

532
00:28:13,800 --> 00:28:16,639
Speaker 8: when he when he gets back, right before you get

533
00:28:16,680 --> 00:28:18,960
Speaker 8: to the tight end, just go up five yards and

534
00:28:19,040 --> 00:28:22,040
Speaker 8: start crossing the field and just run run a deep

535
00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:25,480
Speaker 8: cross second player. I see go in motion.

536
00:28:25,960 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 5: I'm like, what happened last year?

537
00:28:28,040 --> 00:28:29,000
Speaker 8: It was too simple?

538
00:28:29,640 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 5: Well, well, because I'm like, is he if he's not smart,

539
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,040
Speaker 5: keep it simple, you know?

540
00:28:36,560 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 8: And uh And I'm not taking that like that And

541
00:28:38,920 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 8: I'm not saying this kid is not smart, but I'm saying,

542
00:28:41,600 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 8: if he was new to the game, give him simple things.

543
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,880
Speaker 8: Because we struggled last year at wide receiver. And you

544
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 8: know who I forgot. I didn't forget Michael Gallup did no, No,

545
00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 8: you put him in there. I talked to Michael Gallup

546
00:28:54,000 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 8: because a few guys say, look like he still hurt.

547
00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:59,160
Speaker 8: I walked up to Michael Gallap. I said, Mike, please

548
00:28:59,240 --> 00:29:02,560
Speaker 8: be honest with me. Are you hurt? I said, because

549
00:29:02,920 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 8: I'm all in, bro, I'm all in. I say, if

550
00:29:05,920 --> 00:29:09,200
Speaker 8: you're a little banged up, I'll take you know, our

551
00:29:09,280 --> 00:29:12,080
Speaker 8: back up a little bit. He said, no, Nate, I'm.

552
00:29:11,680 --> 00:29:15,280
Speaker 5: Good, I say, but you know, I grat it. Say, man,

553
00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:16,560
Speaker 5: if you hurt.

554
00:29:17,160 --> 00:29:17,840
Speaker 4: Well there's difference.

555
00:29:17,880 --> 00:29:19,760
Speaker 9: He may not be hurt, but is he the same

556
00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:20,440
Speaker 9: player he was?

557
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:26,400
Speaker 8: The thing? It is? I heard Jesse say the other day,

558
00:29:26,640 --> 00:29:30,760
Speaker 8: he's not built for this offense. I ain't never unless

559
00:29:30,760 --> 00:29:33,000
Speaker 8: you a dummy, I ain't never seen a player that

560
00:29:33,080 --> 00:29:35,400
Speaker 8: never was that that wasn't built for the West Coast

561
00:29:35,800 --> 00:29:39,240
Speaker 8: because it's too simple and it's too quick, you know.

562
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:43,200
Speaker 8: So it's a place for it's a place for this guy.

563
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:48,160
Speaker 8: And I believe that, man, this kid can play. I

564
00:29:48,160 --> 00:29:52,880
Speaker 8: don't think this kid, if he's not injured, you know,

565
00:29:52,920 --> 00:29:55,560
Speaker 8: and he can get double moves and come out of

566
00:29:55,560 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 8: his breaks, he's gonna be all right, don't.

567
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:00,440
Speaker 9: I don't think the question is if he is injured.

568
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,720
Speaker 9: It's just whether he's the same guy. I mean a

569
00:30:03,880 --> 00:30:05,560
Speaker 9: C L on a on a receiver.

570
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:11,120
Speaker 8: Right about four five games in, we'll know. But but

571
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:16,600
Speaker 8: I'm just a firm believer that our guys over there,

572
00:30:16,840 --> 00:30:22,600
Speaker 8: Jim Mar Britt Brown are great and I haven't went

573
00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:26,600
Speaker 8: to them yet, but eventually, if things don't start cranking up,

574
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 8: I'm gonna go to him. And you know me, I'm like, man,

575
00:30:28,520 --> 00:30:29,120
Speaker 8: what is wrong?

576
00:30:29,720 --> 00:30:31,360
Speaker 9: Let me ask you to go back to Deuce Vaughan.

577
00:30:32,600 --> 00:30:34,680
Speaker 9: You said you don't want him to be a gadget player.

578
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:36,880
Speaker 9: But you don't hear him brought up when it's talking

579
00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:40,480
Speaker 9: about running back to it's doubt or Malik David.

580
00:30:40,240 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 8: And as it should be, so should.

581
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 9: What would Deuce's rolling be? Then he's kind of a

582
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:46,800
Speaker 9: gadget guy in it.

583
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:49,720
Speaker 8: No, no, no, no, you still line him up, hand

584
00:30:49,800 --> 00:30:51,680
Speaker 8: him the ball just like you would. That's what they're

585
00:30:51,680 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 8: doing the training camp. They line him up in the eye,

586
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,560
Speaker 8: you know, give it to him coming off the tackle,

587
00:30:57,600 --> 00:31:00,640
Speaker 8: give it to him going up the middle. They him

588
00:31:00,960 --> 00:31:02,560
Speaker 8: just like a football player.

589
00:31:02,640 --> 00:31:06,800
Speaker 6: Does he have a opportunity Do you think there's any

590
00:31:06,840 --> 00:31:09,560
Speaker 6: realm of possibility he slides into that number two spot.

591
00:31:09,760 --> 00:31:13,200
Speaker 8: No, No, that's Donald Donald, that's his I want Donald

592
00:31:13,280 --> 00:31:15,720
Speaker 8: to win that. Yeah, you know, I Malik Davis is

593
00:31:15,720 --> 00:31:19,600
Speaker 8: my homeboy, Florida boy, but I like I like Donald Man.

594
00:31:19,680 --> 00:31:21,720
Speaker 9: But then you're number you number three. Guys got to

595
00:31:21,720 --> 00:31:25,120
Speaker 9: play special teams, right, Yes, you're gonna have this down

596
00:31:25,120 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 9: and running down punks.

597
00:31:26,160 --> 00:31:27,360
Speaker 5: He gotta do something.

598
00:31:28,440 --> 00:31:32,400
Speaker 8: The thing, the thing that I believe this year, more

599
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,880
Speaker 8: than any other year of Fellas being out there is

600
00:31:36,600 --> 00:31:40,520
Speaker 8: due to the fact Zach Martin's not there. All the

601
00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:43,640
Speaker 8: young guys are getting opportunity. They getting opportunity like we

602
00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:49,200
Speaker 8: never seen before fellas uh wide receiver. These guys get

603
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:51,800
Speaker 8: an opportunity. I seeee Lamba get in there, but and

604
00:31:51,800 --> 00:31:54,080
Speaker 8: he'll bust some folks up right quick like. Then he'll

605
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:57,400
Speaker 8: get out and you will see these second team guys

606
00:31:57,440 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 8: in thirteen. They getting the reps against Digs, They getting

607
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:05,200
Speaker 8: the reps against UH Gilmore, They getting the reps Man,

608
00:32:05,560 --> 00:32:09,400
Speaker 8: They getting the reps against against blayd That these dudes are,

609
00:32:09,520 --> 00:32:12,160
Speaker 8: I think in my sight, are top notch covered guys.

610
00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,800
Speaker 8: So they getting the reps. Now, I know it's gonna

611
00:32:15,800 --> 00:32:17,720
Speaker 8: be different in the game. I know the Temple is

612
00:32:17,760 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 8: gonna pick up a little bit. It's gonna be their

613
00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:23,920
Speaker 8: best second team guys or their best third team guys.

614
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:27,400
Speaker 8: Ain't gonna be no scrubs out there. So it's like

615
00:32:27,440 --> 00:32:32,160
Speaker 8: Shannon say, the bright lights right there. It's been known

616
00:32:32,160 --> 00:32:34,640
Speaker 8: to make people. You know, it's about like our kickers

617
00:32:34,680 --> 00:32:36,800
Speaker 8: going over to that left field goal over there, that

618
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:37,760
Speaker 8: left goal posts.

619
00:32:38,000 --> 00:32:40,000
Speaker 5: I ain't seen the kicker defeat that goal post.

620
00:32:40,040 --> 00:32:43,479
Speaker 8: Yet you go over there, you you lose.

621
00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:50,360
Speaker 6: So homework is offensive line receivers, reivers. You're just watching

622
00:32:50,360 --> 00:32:52,480
Speaker 6: one dude, we're watching the position.

623
00:32:52,560 --> 00:32:54,920
Speaker 9: I want to see you want to see Rico Dowd

624
00:32:55,000 --> 00:32:58,160
Speaker 9: on the leak Davis, there's a battle there too. Yeah,

625
00:32:58,200 --> 00:33:02,000
Speaker 9: Donald's seems to have the ads right now for that

626
00:33:02,080 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 9: second spot.

627
00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,480
Speaker 7: Who's your what's your secondary group?

628
00:33:05,480 --> 00:33:06,680
Speaker 8: You're interested in about the defense?

629
00:33:06,720 --> 00:33:07,760
Speaker 9: What we all picked offense?

630
00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 8: One that hasn't been mentioned. Uh, well, everybody's talking about

631
00:33:11,640 --> 00:33:17,680
Speaker 8: this kid thirty seven, Eric Scott. He's made a few plays, everybody.

632
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 8: I saw a kid number forty, Josh Butler. I don't

633
00:33:21,960 --> 00:33:25,720
Speaker 8: know this kid. He's he's been doing well. Mark heath Bell.

634
00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:29,600
Speaker 8: Need to be in the right place at the right

635
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:33,479
Speaker 8: time all the time because splashing period.

636
00:33:33,880 --> 00:33:35,320
Speaker 5: He splashed last year.

637
00:33:35,560 --> 00:33:39,080
Speaker 8: Now it's about about doing your job. It's about being

638
00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:44,680
Speaker 8: confident and doing your job. Malik Hooker's just signed, so

639
00:33:45,040 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 8: we feel good about him. Nay Shine Wright has to

640
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:53,080
Speaker 8: play not getting there and running and you know, like

641
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:55,200
Speaker 8: he did last year, the lights came.

642
00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 5: On and you know he got a little handsy.

643
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,920
Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

644
00:33:58,320 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 5: So is Mukuamu is pronouncing that right right?

645
00:34:03,920 --> 00:34:05,120
Speaker 4: So let me ask rephrase that.

646
00:34:05,400 --> 00:34:09,200
Speaker 6: Nate, Who aren't you No, No, Saturday.

647
00:34:09,400 --> 00:34:12,279
Speaker 8: No, The thing is when you go out there every

648
00:34:12,360 --> 00:34:16,359
Speaker 8: day and you watch him through walk through and you're

649
00:34:16,360 --> 00:34:20,439
Speaker 8: talking to the coaches. Uh, that's what I normally didn't

650
00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 8: do this year. Here, I'm talking to coaches because I

651
00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:29,960
Speaker 8: believe that if our offensive line play well, we should

652
00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 8: be in the NFC Championship game. I just believe that.

653
00:34:33,960 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 8: I believe Dak gonna find himself. I think these wide

654
00:34:37,680 --> 00:34:41,920
Speaker 8: receivers are gonna be mature, especially with Brandon Cooks. Now,

655
00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:45,480
Speaker 8: the only thing can hold us back is our offensive line.

656
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,200
Speaker 8: I just believe that. Now, maybe I'm wrong. I think

657
00:34:48,320 --> 00:34:51,279
Speaker 8: ric O'Donnell can run the ball. I think he's gonna

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Speaker 8: Get Tony his twenty two plays. Give him twelve run plays,

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Speaker 8: All you gotta do is get healthy. You know he's

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Speaker 9: But like good medical advice.

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Speaker 5: I want to get fired.

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Speaker 4: All right, let's take our last break. When we come back,

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Speaker 4: let's talk about the rookies.

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Speaker 6: This will be this will be a lot of these guys,

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about.

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Speaker 6: U listen to coaches press conference on the way in

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Speaker 6: said that Tyler be Oddish and Mazzie Smith are both

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Speaker 7: As you heard anything, Nate.

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Speaker 8: That's all it is. Uh, he didn't feel real comfortable

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Speaker 8: but he did to walk through that even he hollered

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Speaker 8: at Mas all right, yeah, I'm all right. So then

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Speaker 8: you know he should be practicing the and uh, the

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Speaker 8: oddist got rolled up a little bit, you know, and

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Speaker 8: he kind of limped to the tent, and then they

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Speaker 8: brought him back and he kind of finished up and

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Speaker 8: think guys really understand. I don't know if Mazi understand,

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Speaker 8: but I think the better guys understand. We can't get

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Speaker 8: injured this year. You know, we might be you know,

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Speaker 8: we may come back and not have a job, you know,

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Speaker 8: not even possible.

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Speaker 7: So they're back out there.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, is that tend to Night's That's just something he's

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Speaker 6: gonna have to play through it, right, Yes, can't make

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Speaker 4: It's just discomfortable.

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Speaker 8: It's get worse, but.

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Speaker 4: Doesn't injure you. It's just it's just pain it.

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Speaker 8: All right.

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Speaker 4: As a rookie. A lot of these guys are.

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Speaker 6: Gonna I mean, this is a big moment, right, How

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Speaker 6: do you what would your advice to a because everybody's

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Speaker 7: Some people don't.

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Speaker 6: You know that locker room is gonna be you know,

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Speaker 6: Some of them are gonna be nervously. Don't talk to me,

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Speaker 6: leave me alone. What what's your advice?

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Speaker 8: Or for a guy.

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Speaker 6: That's going into that game and he knows he's gonna

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Speaker 8: And pregame, is that gets you settled real quick? You know?

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Speaker 8: Some guys they can go out and work out before

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Speaker 8: a game and it settles them down. Some guys play

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Speaker 8: their music, just hammer hammering it, you know they. I mean,

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Speaker 8: gonna talk talk talk whatever gets you come, because after

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Speaker 8: that first play, it's time. You're getting judged. You're getting judged,

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Speaker 8: and so all you did in college, I'm all American,

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Speaker 8: I'm a first round pick. All of that don't work

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Speaker 8: for you when that other player is playing against you

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Speaker 8: because he's trying to make his team too. They ever

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Speaker 8: gets you calm?

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Speaker 6: Do they keep their same routine that they had in

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Speaker 8: Do you do if it's feasible? You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 8: Some things you can continue to do and some things

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Speaker 8: you can't, depending on how out how far that is.

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Speaker 8: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 7: What was your routine?

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Speaker 8: Man? I just I like to come to the game

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Speaker 8: kind of ladies I can because I didn't want to

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Speaker 8: think about it. I just wanted to get dressed and

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Speaker 8: But if I ain't, because I never got a chance

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Speaker 8: to play against no scrubs. Yeah, you know, everybody I

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Speaker 8: and it was horses in the league. Bro, the NFC

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Speaker 8: East was it Like a lot of these guys gonna

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Speaker 9: What do you remember about your very first preseason game?

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Speaker 8: I jump just was not ready, just was not ready.

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Speaker 9: For the spinning rookies. I guess I guess it's.

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Speaker 8: Like just was not ready.

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Speaker 6: Brother, when that happened, where you just like, I'm cut,

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Speaker 6: There's no way I'm making it.

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Speaker 8: But the coaches like like me, they liked me, they

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Speaker 8: gave me every opportunity to make the team. But I

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Speaker 8: just was not mature.

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Speaker 13: That was.

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Speaker 3: That was.

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Speaker 9: Drew Pearson had a good story his very first preseason game.

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Speaker 9: First time he ever touched the ball was a punt

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Speaker 9: return and he muffed it and they got the ball back,

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Speaker 9: and he remembers he got up on his knees, he looking,

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Speaker 9: he looks over the sideline at the Landry and Lander's.

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Speaker 8: Just shaking his head.

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Speaker 9: Pearson thought, fortunately, the next time he ran, I'm back

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Speaker 9: pretty good. And obviously he went on to play man.

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Speaker 9: That's for rookies.

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Speaker 6: It's kinda that's got to be I mean, the best

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Speaker 7: Just go do your job, do what you've been doing

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Speaker 8: I say, you got to find out what comes you.

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Speaker 6: How many how many guys do you think, because that's

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Speaker 6: that people I don't think a lot of people understand

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Speaker 6: being quite as smart as the next guy keeps you

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Speaker 6: from making the team. Same thing with jitters and nerves.

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Speaker 6: Some guys can't emotionally handle jitters and nerves. And that's

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Speaker 6: the difference between you know, making and breaking.

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Speaker 8: You know. I'm telling you you know, and I repeat

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Speaker 8: it over and over. You better find out what gets

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Speaker 8: you come so you can play as fast as you can.

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Speaker 5: Because everything is simple right now.

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Speaker 8: They coaches ain't blitzing, and if you do see blitz

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Speaker 8: it's just the half of blitzes.

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Speaker 5: But everything is so simple. It's like me and you.

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Speaker 8: You're gonna line up and you can either be on

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Speaker 8: a zone, a straight zone, or you gonna be a

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Speaker 8: man and I'm gonna know as a receiver, okay, it's man.

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Speaker 8: But then when the season start, that same dude to

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Speaker 8: walk up on you rapping for the bostaf. He'll beil

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Speaker 8: up out of there. Next next thing you know, hey,

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Speaker 8: come up a defensive line across your face. You know,

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Speaker 8: so things change when the season start.

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Speaker 9: Obviously the rookies are you know there head to be

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Speaker 9: spending tonight. But what's it like for the veterans as

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Speaker 9: you got further along in your career, was preseason game

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Speaker 9: just something you tried to get through or.

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Speaker 8: For me when we played you, you had to get

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Speaker 8: through them because you were playing because they was cutting

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Speaker 8: it every after the first preseason game. Then they start

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Speaker 8: cutting the second preseason game. We played four of them,

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Speaker 8: so they was cutting after the second preseason game. So

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Speaker 8: you had to play more and more and more as

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Speaker 8: offensive line. Nowadays they keep them all the way into

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Speaker 8: the third game. Then they only cut five guys, right,

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Speaker 8: and so you you don't have to rush back, So

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Speaker 8: you know, that's why Zach Martin is not a big

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Speaker 8: issue right now because he's played long enough. If he

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Speaker 8: can get in here a week before the season started,

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Speaker 8: the prep week of the Giants where they probably hit

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Speaker 8: once that week, let him get some you know, a

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Speaker 8: little pass rush in and then he'll be ready.

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Speaker 9: Surely, after a few years you knew you were on

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Speaker 9: the team. There wasn't that pressure out there on the

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Speaker 9: preseason like maybe.

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Speaker 8: Well, yeah, you know you're on the team. But we

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Speaker 8: we just had so much competition because there was always

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Speaker 8: drafting guys and always bringing guys in, and you never

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Speaker 8: know when Jimmy was gonna walk in and say, hey,

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Speaker 8: that's my starting right tackle. Nate, sorry, tackle there to

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Speaker 8: tackle this year?

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Speaker 4: What you just took my job?

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Speaker 6: Well, Nate, nobody on this sets trying to take your job.

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Speaker 6: We couldn't do the show without you, and we appreciate

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Speaker 6: you shuffling in to be on the show.

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Speaker 8: And I'll see what. We'll be back on Monday.

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Speaker 4: We'll be back Monday, Wednesday, Friday.

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Speaker 8: Okay, I see you guys Monday.

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Speaker 6: It maybe we'll be an ox start on Monday, right,

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Speaker 6: We'll see you on live view.

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Speaker 7: So all right, we should have Jesse. Yeah, and then.

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Speaker 4: We'll have the band back together. What in two weeks?

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Speaker 8: Yes, after next week?

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Speaker 4: Is that right?

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Speaker 8: Yeah? So when do we start going every day?

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Speaker 4: Not sure yet.

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Speaker 9: It may be that week from Monday, when everybody's back

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Speaker 9: from it might be when we start.

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Speaker 7: There's what a couple of practices out here to wrap up?

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Speaker 4: Can there's at least a week or all?

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Speaker 8: Right?

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Speaker 4: Well, Nate, safe travels. We all have homework. We'll talk

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Speaker 4: about it on Monday. Good scene you.

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Speaker 6: Thanks for showing up, Kurt, Thank you for shoulder making

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Speaker 6: the long walk from upstairs. Thanks everybody in the studio

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Speaker 6: for keeping us on the air. Thanks brother Will for

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Speaker 6: getting the live streams posted. We will be back on Monday.

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Speaker 6: Go Cowboys pre season tune in Saturday, four o'clock Central,

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Speaker 6: I think right right, yep, four o'clock.

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Speaker 4: Let's go see you Monday.

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