WEBVTT - How Gun Violence Affects Women

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<v Speaker 1>on Apple podcasts. As we are witnessing our black men

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<v Speaker 1>being murdered in the streets, very rarely do we talk

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<v Speaker 1>about the women who are left behind, grief stricken and shattered.

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<v Speaker 1>George Floyd has a six year old daughter, a sister,

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<v Speaker 1>a girlfriend, a maud, a very, a mother, a sister.

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<v Speaker 1>Both men have countless heartbroken women, aunt's, cousins, friends in

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<v Speaker 1>their lives who love them. We are dedicating this Red

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<v Speaker 1>Table Talk to how gun violence affects women, and we're

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<v Speaker 1>starting the conversation with my beautiful little sister Lauren London

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<v Speaker 1>to talk about the traumas of gun violence and how

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<v Speaker 1>she's helping other women through loss and grief. Lauren lost

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<v Speaker 1>her life partner, visionary and artist Nipsey Hustle, when he

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<v Speaker 1>was gunned down outside his l a clothing store. Lauren

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<v Speaker 1>had been in a relationship with nip for six years.

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<v Speaker 1>They share a son together. My pain is for my

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<v Speaker 1>two year old day. I probably won't remember how much

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<v Speaker 1>his dad loved. Since Nipsey's passing, Lauren has remained committed

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<v Speaker 1>to keeping his legacy alive. Grief is the final act

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<v Speaker 1>of love. I'm so grateful that I had you. And

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<v Speaker 1>until we meet again, the marathon continued. Here we are, here,

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<v Speaker 1>we go, Yes, Lauren, Hi, mamma, thank you. So you've

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<v Speaker 1>lost someone who is very close to you, who is

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<v Speaker 1>a public figure, and you're a public figure, and having

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<v Speaker 1>to go out into the world. What can people do

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<v Speaker 1>to be helpful? I love to meet people that nip

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<v Speaker 1>has like really inspired because it feels like he's still

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<v Speaker 1>here even though he is in a way, but um,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like his purpose that was completely outside of any

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<v Speaker 1>of us. His purpose. He's touching people still. And I

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<v Speaker 1>find that when I run into people that tell me

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<v Speaker 1>how he's changed your life, what they're doing with their

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<v Speaker 1>life right now, Like it feels me up. Yeah, like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>he would have loved to hear that, you know, And

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<v Speaker 1>it fills me up. And when my kids are there

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<v Speaker 1>and my kids here, they're like proud, like man, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>those are always very special moments. What would be some

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<v Speaker 1>of the things you could offer to other people who

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<v Speaker 1>are warning the loss of a significant other. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>there's been lost. For me. What's really been important connecting

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<v Speaker 1>with God. Uh. And that's been a struggle because something

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<v Speaker 1>horrible happens in your eyes and you're like, how God?

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<v Speaker 1>You know? And knowing that there is life after this life.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not easy. I don't always wake up on the

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<v Speaker 1>enlightened side of the bed, you know, in the days

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<v Speaker 1>that I don't, I let myself because I'm human, and

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm not always gonna feel so this is

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be okay. I don't and that's okay too.

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<v Speaker 1>So I let myself be human. I'm gentle with myself

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<v Speaker 1>and I m find things that matter, and so I

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<v Speaker 1>try to live with the purpose. You know, when I'm

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<v Speaker 1>having a bad day, I meditate, I go within. What

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<v Speaker 1>about your community, like your your network of family and friends.

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's important for people that love you to

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<v Speaker 1>remind you on who you are because trauma and violence

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<v Speaker 1>and just life can make you feel down. So to

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<v Speaker 1>have people that love you that remind you like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>you know you matter and you'll be okay and that

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<v Speaker 1>you can do this. That's been very important for me.

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<v Speaker 1>People that see me like my heart being around me

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<v Speaker 1>is really important and it's been even outside of my

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<v Speaker 1>family and like the people that I know personally, um

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<v Speaker 1>just loved it has been very helpful. So you're raising

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<v Speaker 1>two black boys as a mother, like, what are some

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<v Speaker 1>of your precautions are, like some of your messaging. What

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<v Speaker 1>I instill in them is more about the police, got it,

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<v Speaker 1>how to handle yourself when you get pulled over. That's

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<v Speaker 1>more of my education, Yes, protecting them being black men

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<v Speaker 1>in America. When would you say was the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that you can remember that you were affected by gun violence?

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<v Speaker 1>Just growing up in l A in the area that

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<v Speaker 1>I was around, just in high school, a lot of

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<v Speaker 1>the boys were in gangs, and I remember that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of our friends that by summertime, you know, they

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<v Speaker 1>were gone, they had transition from gun violence. So you

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<v Speaker 1>kind of got a little bit I don' wouldn't say numb,

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<v Speaker 1>but used to hearing it. Yeah, I think for me

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<v Speaker 1>it was kind of like middle school, high school. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, it just became unfortunately like a norm. But

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<v Speaker 1>even going to like a party in high school, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>you would like putting your life in the man and

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<v Speaker 1>you you always like walked in you knew where the

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<v Speaker 1>exit was because you knew at any time you know,

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<v Speaker 1>something could jump on, something can happen, especially house parties.

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<v Speaker 1>That's traumatizing to be sixteen years old having to be

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<v Speaker 1>on guard when you go into a party. You just

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<v Speaker 1>get used to figuring out how to keep yourself safe

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<v Speaker 1>in these environments. And I try to tell people all

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<v Speaker 1>the time, it's like most of us grow up in

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<v Speaker 1>war zones. And I did not even really realize that

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<v Speaker 1>until my life changed. When I started to look at

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<v Speaker 1>how my kids were growing up versus me, and then

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<v Speaker 1>me trying to train them in a way, I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>but no, they don't. That's not their reality. They don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to worry about that, they have that guard up.

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<v Speaker 1>One of my best friends her first time, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>she was four years old, four or five, and her

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<v Speaker 1>uncle got shot and killed in front of her on

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<v Speaker 1>the porch, you know, And so she carries that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so grateful for you, because I wouldn't have known about

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Ford without you. I was doing an event with

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<v Speaker 1>Puma in New York and a part of the event

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<v Speaker 1>was that we were going to donate some money and

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<v Speaker 1>close to an organization and a friend of mine brought

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<v Speaker 1>up Erica and I go do some research and like

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<v Speaker 1>the first five seconds, I was like, this is it.

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<v Speaker 1>They were practicing the same ideas and practices that I

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<v Speaker 1>do in my everyday life. I was able to go

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<v Speaker 1>and talk to the girls. It was a group of

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<v Speaker 1>girls that were affected from gun violence. They lost fathers, brothers,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're traumatized by that. We could all relate together.

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<v Speaker 1>We were all grounded and solid together from by gun violence. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>because you feel the medicine of you actually being there

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<v Speaker 1>with them and being able to share your process of healing.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh man, they healed me in a lot of ways,

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<v Speaker 1>because you know, I think trauma feels so lonely, and

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<v Speaker 1>just in talking to them, they gave me so much

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<v Speaker 1>more than I feel like I gave to them. They

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<v Speaker 1>gave me just their stories and just there like rawness,

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<v Speaker 1>and it made me not feel so alone. And it

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<v Speaker 1>was very magical. It was magical, it was very healing.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like, you know, this is what you're supposed to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, Nips, super proud. You would have loved her.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Oh are you to you know what? The

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<v Speaker 1>The interview with Lauren was so moving and I could

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<v Speaker 1>really really relate to what she was saying because we

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<v Speaker 1>have family members that are going through trauma right now. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And one of the things that she said that was

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<v Speaker 1>so important to me and really clicked in my head

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<v Speaker 1>was trauma feels so lonely. That was really important for

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<v Speaker 1>me to hear because if you haven't been through it,

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<v Speaker 1>if you're not actually going through it, you really don't

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<v Speaker 1>know what that feels like. And as we all are

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<v Speaker 1>trying to understand and help and and be there, we

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<v Speaker 1>don't we don't know what the other person is really feeling. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think sometimes it's just great to just show that

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<v Speaker 1>you're there. So, as Lauren shared, one of the women

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<v Speaker 1>she is most inspired by is Erica Ford. Erica has

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<v Speaker 1>devoted her life to end gun violence and created the Peacemobile,

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<v Speaker 1>a big orange bus she turned into a mobile trauma unit.

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Ford is a woman on a mission what's going

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<v Speaker 1>on day and night. She and her team risked their

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<v Speaker 1>lives to save lives. Whenever there's a shooting or violence,

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<v Speaker 1>her Peace Bus is on the scene to intervene, going

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<v Speaker 1>into these hot spots mediating conflict. When we look at

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<v Speaker 1>the number of mothers who've lost their sons to gun

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<v Speaker 1>violence in America. It is horrific. Erica also started a

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<v Speaker 1>camp for at risk youth dealing with trauma and anger. Exactly,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell you what we're not gonna have. No no, no, no, no,

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<v Speaker 1>no no no. Let me tell you what we're not

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<v Speaker 1>As always, Erica keeps the peace. What we're not gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have is you being disrespectful, trying to go past and

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<v Speaker 1>do anything inside here. Do you understand what I'm saying. Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>our mission to provide young people with the tools that

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<v Speaker 1>they need to change their life. Real people are getting killed.

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<v Speaker 1>Let's make peace in these streets. Stop the violence. Let

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<v Speaker 1>me start by saying, I love your hair's powerful, powerful

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<v Speaker 1>handclap for you, yes, yeah, for real, because you are

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<v Speaker 1>in it, in it, in it, in it in. Can

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<v Speaker 1>you explain how gun violence affects women? First, the trauma

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<v Speaker 1>of losing your soul mate, right and then having to

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<v Speaker 1>raise your children. And I see women stop living. I

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<v Speaker 1>see them losing their lives from a broken heart, and

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<v Speaker 1>so we teach them how to move past that pain.

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<v Speaker 1>If you help the mother hill, you helped save the family,

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<v Speaker 1>You helped change the family, you helped change generations, You

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<v Speaker 1>helped change the world. We work for the people who

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<v Speaker 1>are pulling the trigger, and we work for the people

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<v Speaker 1>who are the victims. We gotta work with everybody because

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<v Speaker 1>they're all victims of generational trauma. You know. So how

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<v Speaker 1>did you come up with this idea of the peace bus.

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<v Speaker 1>We want to pull up with peace, you know, and

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<v Speaker 1>we want peace to flood the streets in a way

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<v Speaker 1>that it becomes a constant in your mind. And so

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<v Speaker 1>you see it, you live it, you believe it's subliminally

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<v Speaker 1>it becomes part of you. And so you can't overlook

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<v Speaker 1>that big orange bus. And actually I was googling tour

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<v Speaker 1>buses and so will's toll buses and use that as

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<v Speaker 1>a symbol to you know, we gotta get you one

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<v Speaker 1>of those. That's fire. You know. We need to have

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<v Speaker 1>a mobile trauma unit. We pull up on situation, just

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<v Speaker 1>like the police pulls up with their you know unit.

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<v Speaker 1>It has to start in the streets first. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>violence is a disease. When you look at the disease

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<v Speaker 1>of violence, it impacts those around you. One of the

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<v Speaker 1>ways Erica makes peaces by bringing together used to face

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<v Speaker 1>former gang members and mothers whose children have been victims

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<v Speaker 1>of gun violence. We're just gonna sit right here. Primo

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<v Speaker 1>grew up on these streets, in and out of gangs.

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<v Speaker 1>In jail, he's been shot twice. Now Eric is trying

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<v Speaker 1>to help him break free from the cycle of violence.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's not easy. I walk around with these demons

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<v Speaker 1>every day. I wanted to do certain things to certain people.

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<v Speaker 1>I might have gonna lie to you. Do you know

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<v Speaker 1>what it's like, toad, to watch my bag, to go

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<v Speaker 1>to the corner store. Do you know what it's like

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<v Speaker 1>to tell my daughter we're not going down that block.

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<v Speaker 1>I lost my whole life from these streets, lost my

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<v Speaker 1>family to these streets. And I hear you and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel your pain, right, But where do we go? Because

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<v Speaker 1>if we don't change the trajectory, then it's just mean

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<v Speaker 1>more people diet. To give Primo a wake up call,

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<v Speaker 1>she introduces him to a grief ricken mother now Orleans.

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<v Speaker 1>Son was shot five times at point blank range. I

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<v Speaker 1>wanted him to hear your story because we were having

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<v Speaker 1>a conversation just about the impact of gun violence and

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<v Speaker 1>gang violence on mother's and women. It's like, good, you

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<v Speaker 1>know my son like he's got shot August thirty a

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<v Speaker 1>multiple times. I'm still hurting. I don't know if my

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<v Speaker 1>son is gonna walk again. You have a mother. You

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<v Speaker 1>don't want to put your mother through that. You don't

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<v Speaker 1>have to prove anything to no one, and I understand

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<v Speaker 1>that you have to strive, struggle and survive. But not

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<v Speaker 1>with a gun Flocks, not with a gun Bucks. At

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<v Speaker 1>the same time that your son was shot, I lost

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<v Speaker 1>three friends in the same day, Jesus. But I probably

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<v Speaker 1>would have thrown a little bit more about certain things

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<v Speaker 1>if I would have at a conversation with a mother

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<v Speaker 1>like you've seen, how the pain help me realize what

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<v Speaker 1>changes I need to make and never stop to think

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<v Speaker 1>about the con the consequences and the people that are

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<v Speaker 1>left behind. What would you say to all the people

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<v Speaker 1>watching how we can help stop gun violence. We got

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<v Speaker 1>to change the culture of how we relate to each other.

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<v Speaker 1>You've got to change the culture again. And that's what

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<v Speaker 1>people can do, like stop making that stupidness cool, like

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<v Speaker 1>yoga and how we speak to each other. You know,

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<v Speaker 1>it's so important. I think I get overwhelmed because there's

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<v Speaker 1>so much violence and and trauma in the world. There's

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<v Speaker 1>a lot that happens with those one bullets. You know

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<v Speaker 1>that that no one ever thinks about. You know, no

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<v Speaker 1>one ever goes down that long line of where this

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<v Speaker 1>bullet is going to end up, in the impact that

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<v Speaker 1>it's going to have on so many people. It is

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<v Speaker 1>like one step at a time, one day at a time,

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<v Speaker 1>like you can't tackle the whole. The marathon continues, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and so we are the marathon. Thank you, so inspiring.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Every single month, in average of fifty two

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<v Speaker 1>women are shot and killed by an intimate partner. Nearly

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<v Speaker 1>one million women alive today have reported being shot. The

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<v Speaker 1>beautiful Brianna Taylor was struck by eight bullets while sleeping

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<v Speaker 1>in her own home, and four point five million women

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<v Speaker 1>report being threatened by a gun. Before Rain's Tippic, she

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<v Speaker 1>never even saw it coming. Rain loved to dance from

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<v Speaker 1>the time she was a toddler all the way to adulthood.

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<v Speaker 1>But that all changed one night when an unidentified gunman

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<v Speaker 1>fired over twenty bullets into her car. She had been

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<v Speaker 1>shot in the back eight times with less than a

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<v Speaker 1>five percent chance to live. It really didn't expect her,

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<v Speaker 1>and they replaced oliver blood five times in the first

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<v Speaker 1>six hours or so, but then her heart stopped. She

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<v Speaker 1>was dead for a full minute. Doctors were able to

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<v Speaker 1>bring Rain back to life. He said she would never

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<v Speaker 1>walk or dance again. All right, we have Rain here

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<v Speaker 1>with us today. Rain, come join the table. Wow, little

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<v Speaker 1>twirl for you. All right, guys, I have a seat.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow from someone who they didn't expect to even survive,

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<v Speaker 1>and you come out with a twirl. You came life

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<v Speaker 1>with a twirl. Girl, don't stand still. So you have

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<v Speaker 1>made a miraculous that's like a miracle. Yeah, I mean

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<v Speaker 1>I am a medical miracle. That's doctors tell me a

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<v Speaker 1>five percent chance to live and I am here walking, talking, eating,

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<v Speaker 1>breathing with you today and twirling. How many surgeries did

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<v Speaker 1>you have in that first twenty four hours? It was fourteen.

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<v Speaker 1>They took my left kidney, my spleen, my pendix, small intestine, colon,

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<v Speaker 1>and bowel. There was holes in my liver, holes in

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<v Speaker 1>my stomach that took a third of my pancreas, and

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<v Speaker 1>my back was fractured at L three and O five

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<v Speaker 1>and uh. After that, the first week was really touch

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<v Speaker 1>and go. They weren't sure if I was going to

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<v Speaker 1>wake up or not. And all of a sudden, one

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<v Speaker 1>of my nurses told my family she got into work

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<v Speaker 1>that morning and I was sitting up, breathing, smiling, talking.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a long road. I mean, don't kid yourself

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<v Speaker 1>like that. There was a point in time where I

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't even hold a toothbrush. It was a long effort

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<v Speaker 1>and finally getting back to a dancer by trade. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting back to teaching and dancing again. And they

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<v Speaker 1>never figured out they had two men in custody for

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<v Speaker 1>a while, but it's something that they currently just speculate

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<v Speaker 1>that it was a random gang initiation because they didn't

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<v Speaker 1>take the car, they didn't rob us, we didn't see

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<v Speaker 1>who it was, the fact that the shooting was just

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<v Speaker 1>completely random, Like, how do you wrap your mind around that?

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<v Speaker 1>Because then I'm in my mind, I'm like, then how

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<v Speaker 1>am I safe? Well? And as a woman, you were

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<v Speaker 1>conditioned to look over your shoulder when you're walking down

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<v Speaker 1>the street. You're conditioned to maybe that car drove by

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<v Speaker 1>two times, don't walk your dog at night. There's things

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<v Speaker 1>that we are already dealing with as women as it is.

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<v Speaker 1>So I know for myself, I'm not as trustworthy of

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<v Speaker 1>people in everyday situations anymore because it's it was so

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<v Speaker 1>random and who would have thought that just this random night,

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<v Speaker 1>I was gonna get shot in the back eight times.

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<v Speaker 1>The person that you were with they survived. Yes, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a bullet go through his hand and his

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<v Speaker 1>shoulder and one actually went through my back into his leg. Wow,

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<v Speaker 1>So you really got the brunt of it. Yes, I

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<v Speaker 1>was like a human shield. Wow. I feel like I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting here literally with a miracle. Yeah, honestly, And just

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<v Speaker 1>how like You're just radiant, like you're you're smiling, you

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<v Speaker 1>have this air about you that is just so amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>I have to say it was the support that I had,

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<v Speaker 1>Like my sister literally slept in the hospital with me

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<v Speaker 1>eighty somehow days out of the days I was there,

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<v Speaker 1>she was playing chakra music and we were doing word

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<v Speaker 1>in meditations and things while I was laying You posted

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<v Speaker 1>a really empowering photo of yourself on social media. What

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<v Speaker 1>was your motivation for that? The photo that I posted.

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<v Speaker 1>It started out honestly that I just this is what

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<v Speaker 1>people need to see. I'm still me, I really am.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, I'm confident, I'm going to continue to push

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<v Speaker 1>forward with what I'm doing. And if I can give

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<v Speaker 1>that back to people and show them give them a motivation.

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<v Speaker 1>I have strangers that message me and just to say

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<v Speaker 1>thank you for sharing and for being inspiring. There was

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<v Speaker 1>plenty of days that I was struggling that I would

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<v Speaker 1>just cry and defeat because how did this happen to me? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>What what happened? That? This is? This is what became

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<v Speaker 1>my normal. And I don't want that for anybody else ever,

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<v Speaker 1>No one should have to experience this what my family

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<v Speaker 1>and I have been through. It's it's unfathomable and it's

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<v Speaker 1>there's no actual words that you can describe this process

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<v Speaker 1>of mourning and grieving. Because you are mourning this lie

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<v Speaker 1>that you once had and grieving through this. What would

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<v Speaker 1>be the message that you would give other people to

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<v Speaker 1>help them keep going. I just want to tell them

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<v Speaker 1>there's gonna be bad days, and I want people to

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<v Speaker 1>understand that if you can accept the fact that there

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<v Speaker 1>are bad days, that also means that you're going to

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<v Speaker 1>have good ones. And once you have a good one,

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<v Speaker 1>you're alive to have a good one. Take it one

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<v Speaker 1>day at a time, one second, one minute, one hour,

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<v Speaker 1>one day, because if everything can change an instant like

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<v Speaker 1>it did, what can happen in twenty four hours. You

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<v Speaker 1>just don't anything is possible. You better preach the word today.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just flabergasted. I mean yeah, and I mean as

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<v Speaker 1>a young beautiful woman to go through this, but really

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<v Speaker 1>find your power, power, Yes, your strength, Yes, find superhero story. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>My doctors were calling me the woman of Steel in

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital because they just kept going and I've taken Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much for being here, you for me.

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<v Speaker 1>Every sixteen hours, a woman is killed by our current

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<v Speaker 1>or former intimate partner. An abusers access to firearms increases

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<v Speaker 1>the risk of homicide, but at least four Danny Robinson

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<v Speaker 1>knows this all too well. Danny was shot five times

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<v Speaker 1>at point blake range by her ex boyfriend and lived

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<v Speaker 1>to tell about it. Tell us what happened, Danny. I

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<v Speaker 1>never ever thought that I would ever be a victim

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<v Speaker 1>of gun violence, you know, I mean, I was shot

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<v Speaker 1>five times. I was with a man for about six years,

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<v Speaker 1>and throughout our relationship there were some signs that he

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<v Speaker 1>was a little controlling. He was possessive, verbally abused me,

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<v Speaker 1>emotionally abused me, and I had two daughters with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and um I finally left him. I decided I was

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<v Speaker 1>done with him. I was going to have him control

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<v Speaker 1>me anymore. He had made this calm it to me,

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<v Speaker 1>and he said something to the fact that he was

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<v Speaker 1>going to hurt me with a gun. I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you saying that you're going to kill me. You

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<v Speaker 1>can't get a gun, and he said, well, you'd be

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<v Speaker 1>surprised what you can find on the street. And when

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<v Speaker 1>he said that to me, I knew that something was wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>I called the police department and they said, well, there's

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<v Speaker 1>nothing we can do about it. And I told my sisters,

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<v Speaker 1>I said, I'm scared, like and they're, oh, no, he's

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<v Speaker 1>just trying to scare you. I'm like, no, no, this

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<v Speaker 1>is different. This is really different. Because I went and

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<v Speaker 1>I got a restraining order and I didn't hear from

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<v Speaker 1>him for a couple of weeks. And I drove home

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<v Speaker 1>and I pulled up in the driveway and I was

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<v Speaker 1>getting out of my car, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>I just felt this huge, like like breeze, just like

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<v Speaker 1>blow me over. And it was him. And I had

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<v Speaker 1>my daughters in the back of the car and they

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<v Speaker 1>were still in their car seats, and I said, what

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<v Speaker 1>are you doing here? And he told me that we

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<v Speaker 1>needed to have a conversation, and I said, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>going anywhere with you. I saw my grandfather in the

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<v Speaker 1>house getting ready for dinner. I decided that I needed

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<v Speaker 1>to get away from the house so he would not

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<v Speaker 1>hurt my grandfather or my daughter's and I walked a

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<v Speaker 1>few houses down with him, and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 1>there was this white van and he opened it up,

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<v Speaker 1>and I just remember hearing that sound of the van,

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<v Speaker 1>that the rolling on the door exactly, and he tried

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<v Speaker 1>to pull me into the van, and at that moment,

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<v Speaker 1>I screamed and I started to fight back, and he

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<v Speaker 1>was holding me, and I was shot two times, and

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<v Speaker 1>from there I fell on the ground. I fell on

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<v Speaker 1>my back and he stood over me and he shot

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<v Speaker 1>me three more times, point blank in my stomach. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I went to the hospital. I was in intensive care

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<v Speaker 1>for about three days. While he was on the run.

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<v Speaker 1>My focus was about living for my daughters. Like when

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<v Speaker 1>I was on the ground and I was burning, and

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<v Speaker 1>I smelled that I was going to live for my girls.

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<v Speaker 1>So where's your ex Now? He's in state prison. He

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<v Speaker 1>got twenty five years, he didn't get a life sentence.

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<v Speaker 1>He is getting out in two thousand twenty four, so

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<v Speaker 1>he's only going to be serving about twenty one years

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<v Speaker 1>and that's soon. How does it make you feel? I

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<v Speaker 1>feel strong. I'm not afraid of him. I do have

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<v Speaker 1>a lifetime restraining order on him. He does still send

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<v Speaker 1>my daughter's letters. He's tried to have a relationship with

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<v Speaker 1>my daughters. I mean, of course, I struggle with a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of you know, I hear the slam of a

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<v Speaker 1>rolling door, I remember smelling the bullets and my flesh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so when I when I there's a fire, I'm like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh it does it triggers that? So I do have

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<v Speaker 1>my you know, every everyday PST issues that come up.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's important that you're not living your life and fear.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely not. No, I am not doing that. Do you

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<v Speaker 1>talk to your daughters about warning signs and relationships? Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>I've taught them. Nobody talks down to you there to

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<v Speaker 1>respect you. What would be some of the advice that

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<v Speaker 1>you would give women who may be in relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>aren't healthy or even dangerous. Listen to your gut. Listen

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<v Speaker 1>to your woman's intuition because it is always right on,

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<v Speaker 1>but you you have to listen to it. Yeah, sometimes

0:25:40.440 --> 0:25:43.520
<v Speaker 1>you think, oh, I'm being extreme. You know, he would

0:25:43.560 --> 0:25:47.119
<v Speaker 1>never It's just like it doesn't matter. Just listen to

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<v Speaker 1>that one. Well, thank you so much for sharing your stories.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for having me. I hope that you can

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<v Speaker 1>make a difference. It's just such an epidemic right today.

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<v Speaker 1>I really wanted to take the time to really refle

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<v Speaker 1>act on how women from all walks of life are

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<v Speaker 1>affected by gun violence, and how we're affected by gunbalnce.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not just in like a certain demographic of certain

0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:14.280
<v Speaker 1>everywhere everywhere. Yeah, that is really apparent now, which is

0:26:14.320 --> 0:26:17.320
<v Speaker 1>why gun control was so important. It's just amazing to

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:19.719
<v Speaker 1>me that we can't you know, see it's straight now.

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<v Speaker 1>They can't keep waiting for the world to change, like

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<v Speaker 1>we have to make the change. To make the change.

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