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Speaker 2: The Bureau of Labor Statistics is saying that isn't just

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Speaker 1: That is a revision that is on a level that

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Speaker 2: You don't get these numbers this wrong.

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Speaker 1: Look at polling when they have a margin of air

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Speaker 1: You're telling me the federal government sucks so bad at

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Speaker 1: What does this mean It means the labor market was weak,

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Speaker 1: this annual quote revision process is normal. What's not normal

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Speaker 1: Last August, right in the heat of the election, the

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Speaker 1: Today, the Bureau of Labor Stistics released the largest downward

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Speaker 5: Would like to address the tragedy that has not received

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Speaker 5: Here are the facts that many outlets have shamefully and

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Speaker 5: On August twenty second, Arena Zarutzka was stabbed to death

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Speaker 6: But while we extend our thoughts in prayers.

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Speaker 5: It shows the alleged killer, to Carlos Brown Junior, pull

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Speaker 5: In fact, he should have been behind bars. De Carlos

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Speaker 6: This is madness.

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Speaker 5: This monster should have been locked up, and Arena should

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Speaker 6: But Democrat politicians.

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Speaker 6: Enough is enough, and that is.

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Speaker 2: Plain and simple, this was.

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Speaker 7: You are mentally ill. You have a hard time knowing

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Speaker 8: You know, I need to say a couple of things.

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Speaker 8: Less bail or no cashless bill. It's about the fact

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Speaker 1: what God has given so you can experience real peace

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Speaker 1: now and for generations to come.

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Speaker 2: K e PM dot com slash ben. Every once in a.

444
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Speaker 1: While you get to have a really fun conversation with

445
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Speaker 1: someone that does something that's incredibly cool, and today is

446
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Speaker 1: one of those days. Sunny Williams is a name you

447
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Speaker 1: may not remember as I say it, but when I

448
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Speaker 1: remind you of who Sonney is, you're gonna be like, oh, yeah,

449
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Speaker 1: how would you like to be in the US Navy.

450
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Speaker 1: I'd be a captain then retire, And They'm like, all right,

451
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Speaker 1: I'm not done. I'm just gonna, like, you know, become

452
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Speaker 1: a NASA astronaut. That is exactly what happened to Sonny Williams.

453
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Speaker 1: And you may remember she just spent a really long

454
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Speaker 1: time in out of space.

455
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Speaker 2: Like twice as long as she was supposed to be there. Sonny.

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Speaker 1: I appreciate you coming on, and there is so much

457
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Speaker 1: to talk about. I gotta ask you first though, when

458
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Speaker 1: you were in space mentally in this last trip, you

459
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Speaker 1: had a mindset, Hey, I'm gonna be there.

460
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Speaker 2: I think it was what four to five months? Is

461
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Speaker 2: that right?

462
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Speaker 9: Actually when we first launched, these were telling us to

463
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Speaker 9: be eight to ten days, but we knew we'd be

464
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Speaker 9: there for a couple months, but didn't really anticipate nine months.

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Speaker 1: So what is it like to recalib bread in your

466
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Speaker 1: mind like you've you've done training. I don't know if

467
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Speaker 1: there's any training that can prepare you for eight or

468
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Speaker 1: nine days turning into a couple of weeks, maybe a

469
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Speaker 1: couple of months, and then like, oh, yeah, it's going

470
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Speaker 1: to be the majority of a year.

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Speaker 9: Yeah. Ben, it's a great question, and you know, hopefully

472
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Speaker 9: you know. Butch and I have provided a little bit

473
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Speaker 9: of a roadmap for other astronauts as well as Frank Rubio,

474
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Speaker 9: who before us actually spent an unexpected year in space,

475
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Speaker 9: uh translating from six months. So I think it's just

476
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Speaker 9: a matter of you know, mindset change. Okay, you know,

477
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Speaker 9: this is what we train for us, what we have

478
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Speaker 9: you know, done in the past in our time here

479
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Speaker 9: at NASA, and we can continue on. Now. I'm not

480
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Speaker 9: going to say my all my clothes were there and

481
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Speaker 9: I had to borrow a couple pairs of shorts from

482
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Speaker 9: a friend. But that's what we do. We help each

483
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Speaker 9: other out when we're up there, and they were the

484
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Speaker 9: folks on Crew eight were gracious enough to give us

485
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Speaker 9: some of the really goodies of the food to make

486
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Speaker 9: our stay great. And you know, that's what we do,

487
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Speaker 9: We work together.

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Speaker 2: How many people were up there when you're there for

489
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Speaker 2: that nine months?

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Speaker 9: Oh so it gets confusing, So I'm going to have

491
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Speaker 9: to think about it for a second. So when we

492
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Speaker 9: were up there, when we first got there, there was

493
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Speaker 9: three SOYUS crew members and four SpaceX Dragon members, so seven, eight, nine,

494
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Speaker 9: nine of us all together. Then we had at one

495
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Speaker 9: point in time a second SOYUZ up, so that was

496
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Speaker 9: twelve and then they left and so that was nine again,

497
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Speaker 9: and then then we had another dragon come up with two,

498
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Speaker 9: so that was back down to oh gosh, now I'm

499
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Speaker 9: getting confused, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, eleven.

500
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Speaker 9: So it was it was a little bit of a

501
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Speaker 9: revolving door, which is great because you see new crew

502
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Speaker 9: members periodically as these spacecraft trained out. But it was

503
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Speaker 9: a little bit sad to see people who you thought

504
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Speaker 9: you'd be on the ground first them leave and then

505
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Speaker 9: us leave later. So not necessarily sad, I shouldn't say

506
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Speaker 9: it that way. It was just a little bit different

507
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Speaker 9: plan than we had originally anticipated.

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Speaker 1: So when you when you think about the plan and

509
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Speaker 1: you're like, all right, I'm seeing people that are now

510
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Speaker 1: coming and going. There was a lot of politics involved

511
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Speaker 1: back on Earth of who's supposed to pick you up,

512
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Speaker 1: and then there's contingency plans of like who's going to

513
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Speaker 1: come in essence rescue you guys, But you're seeing others leave.

514
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Speaker 1: How hard was it mentally to just stay locked in

515
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Speaker 1: in that scenario because I'm assuming you didn't want to

516
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Speaker 1: get involved in the in the politics, But the reality

517
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Speaker 1: is when I if I sell someone leave, dude, I

518
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Speaker 1: really want to be on that.

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Speaker 9: I want to get out of here, So you know,

520
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Speaker 9: there's there's a couple aspects of that. You know, there

521
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Speaker 9: was a lot of really cool things that are going

522
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Speaker 9: on in the space station. So for me, I honestly

523
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Speaker 9: didn't mind being up there for an extended duration, like

524
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Speaker 9: a normal duration, long duration mission, because there's all sorts

525
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Speaker 9: of cool science to do. There's fun maintenance to do,

526
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Speaker 9: I like, you know, using tools, and there's you know,

527
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Speaker 9: space walks occurred also while we're up there, so all

528
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Speaker 9: that's pretty great. So having those opportunities was fine. Absolutely

529
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Speaker 9: didn't want to get in the politics of it all,

530
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Speaker 9: but absolutely wanted a good ride home. You know, we

531
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Speaker 9: were up there with Starliner for a while as our lifeboat,

532
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Speaker 9: and it's you know, obviously we all know now that

533
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Speaker 9: you know, the thrusters weren't working as advertised, and you know,

534
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Speaker 9: if you're not one hundred percent sure if that's the

535
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Speaker 9: you know that everything was going to work, why risk

536
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Speaker 9: your life coming home in that when you potentially have

537
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Speaker 9: another ride. I think another you know, compromised way to

538
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Speaker 9: get home beside for Starliner was on Dragon initially because

539
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Speaker 9: we didn't have dedicated seats. I think the happiest day

540
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Speaker 9: of my time up there was when crew nine showed

541
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Speaker 9: up with two empty seats and two dedicated space suits

542
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Speaker 9: for us, and then we knew we really had the

543
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Speaker 9: right combination to get home in an emergency, because you know,

544
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Speaker 9: these spacecraft are our lifeboat in case anything happens to

545
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Speaker 9: the International Space Station. So you know, that day was great.

546
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Speaker 9: So you know, I was happy to wait for a

547
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Speaker 9: proper seat to re enter into the atmosphere. It's no joke.

548
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Speaker 9: When you're coming into the atmosphere and you know around

549
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Speaker 9: the capsules, you know, thousands of degrees, you want to

550
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Speaker 9: make sure that you're in the right place at the

551
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Speaker 9: right time and have the right ride home.

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Speaker 2: What was the toll on your body?

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Speaker 1: I mean, nine months in outer space with weightlessness, I'm

554
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Speaker 1: assuming that was really weird when you got back to

555
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Speaker 1: Earth having to try to figure out just how to

556
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Speaker 1: walk and get out of everything and get back to normal.

557
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Speaker 2: How long did that take?

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Absolutely? You know, you know, Butcher and I are

559
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Speaker 9: both we like working out. We see each other in

560
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Speaker 9: the gym in the morning, and we both hit it

561
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Speaker 9: hard when we got there, even knowing we are only

562
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Speaker 9: potentially only gonna be there for you know, a week

563
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Speaker 9: or so. We got special permission to use the exercise equipment. Generally,

564
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Speaker 9: when people aren't there for a short amount of time,

565
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Speaker 9: they don't use the equipment, and we jumped on it

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Speaker 9: the first day we were there, and we were pretty

567
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Speaker 9: dedicated the whole time through to make sure we were

568
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Speaker 9: in as good as shape as possible. But you're right,

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Speaker 9: it does take a toll. Nine months is a long

570
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Speaker 9: time to make sure your bone density, your muscle mass days. Intact,

571
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Speaker 9: we needed to work out every single day getting back.

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Speaker 9: You know, it's the big muscles are fine because we

573
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Speaker 9: worked out. It's all the little small muscles like the

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Speaker 9: one that holds your heads up right, the one that

575
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Speaker 9: allows you to balance on one foot that we really

576
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Speaker 9: needed to re engage with that agility and flexibility and

577
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Speaker 9: just getting back some of the stamina that we probably

578
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Speaker 9: you know that we both have lost while we were

579
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Speaker 9: up there. So you know, it's about a thirty day

580
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Speaker 9: to forty five day process. And still working on my

581
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Speaker 9: fast twitch muscles. I'm a little bit slow. Absolutely not

582
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Speaker 9: contributing that to age, only to space flight.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's incredible. Let's talk about what's really cool now.

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Speaker 1: There is an initiative to go back to the moon.

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Speaker 1: Part of this, I think is going to inspire especially

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Speaker 1: young people, that this is something that we can do.

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Speaker 1: It's obtainable. Why has it taking us so long? And

588
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Speaker 1: when is this plan to actually go back to the Moon.

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Speaker 9: Yeah? Absolutely, this is really exciting times. You know. I

590
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Speaker 9: think what was great was we've had the International Space

591
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Speaker 9: Station to try out a whole bunch of processes to

592
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Speaker 9: understand what happens to people when they're in space for

593
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Speaker 9: a long duration, so we can get ready to go

594
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Speaker 9: back to in the moon smarter and you know, in

595
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Speaker 9: a more safe way. So we are actually doing some

596
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Speaker 9: more challenging things by going to the poll on, going

597
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Speaker 9: to the south pole of the Moon. That's our landing

598
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Speaker 9: spot where we want to go just for you know,

599
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Speaker 9: resources sunlight while we're while we're there, and maybe build

600
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Speaker 9: a station like we built in space. So we've used

601
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Speaker 9: you know, the space station, Internet space Station as a

602
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Speaker 9: testing ground for all of these things to get ready

603
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Speaker 9: to go. Also over these you know, last couple decades,

604
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Speaker 9: I think everybody knows additive manufacturing, different types of welding,

605
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Speaker 9: all of this has all this production has allowed us

606
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Speaker 9: to build spacecraft which are amazing. So we're looking forward

607
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Speaker 9: to launching the Orion capsule this fault. I mean this

608
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Speaker 9: next year rather with UH with four crew members on

609
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Speaker 9: the Space Launch System rocket, they'll go around the move

610
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Speaker 9: to to prove all of our guidance, navigation, control systems

611
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Speaker 9: and everything that we've now modernized works quite well, and

612
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Speaker 9: we can head to the right place. Check out the

613
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Speaker 9: heat shield as we come back into the atmosphere much

614
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Speaker 9: hotter than from lower orbit where we were want to

615
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Speaker 9: make sure that all works right. And then we're going

616
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Speaker 9: to be ready to work with more of our commercial

617
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Speaker 9: partners to get ready to land on the mood hopefully

618
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Speaker 9: Artemis three, Artemis four in the next couple of years.

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Speaker 1: So it's it's you're saying this could happen in the

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Speaker 1: next couple of years that we could literally have and

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Speaker 1: an HD color people landing on the Moon and us

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Speaker 1: getting to see it.

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Speaker 9: I think, so yeah, And this next year we'll have

624
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Speaker 9: you know, Artemis two, and then following probably two years

625
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Speaker 9: after that, Artemis three, and then follow on people you know,

626
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Speaker 9: footsteps back on the moon pretty awesome, and you know,

627
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Speaker 9: there's so much to do, it's really going to be busy.

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Speaker 9: So hopefully we've inspired a bunch of you know, high

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Speaker 9: school university kids to want to get involved. Their time

630
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Speaker 9: is in the is prime right now?

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Speaker 1: Final question, any chance you're going to be walking on

632
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Speaker 1: the moon? And how competitive is it to be one

633
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Speaker 1: of those it.

634
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Speaker 2: Gets to do it?

635
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Speaker 9: Yeah, I think it's pretty.

636
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Speaker 1: To Tanya Harding in the leg, you know, to just

637
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Speaker 1: get get at the front of that line.

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Speaker 9: Hey, you know I borrowed shorts from a buddy. We're

639
00:34:04,240 --> 00:34:07,360
Speaker 9: a big team effort here. I'm just happy to see

640
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Speaker 9: the next generation of astronauts put their foot in history

641
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Speaker 9: and walk on the Moon. I'll be there supporting them,

642
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Speaker 9: working on some stuff for the rest of the year

643
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Speaker 9: to get them ready to go. So we're making it happen.

644
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Speaker 9: I would love to go if they said.

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Speaker 1: No one's been named as the unassuming, right, Has anyone

646
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Speaker 1: been named yet for that mission?

647
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Speaker 2: Or No?

648
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Speaker 9: Not for the landing, yet, not for artemistry.

649
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Speaker 2: Yet I love it.

650
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Speaker 1: That's see, that's why she's training folks. She can be PC,

651
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Speaker 1: but we all know she wants to get on the moon.

652
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Speaker 2: I would if I was you. That's the Holy Grail,

653
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Speaker 2: is it not?

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Speaker 7: Oh?

655
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Speaker 9: Yeah, of course of course it is. But I think

656
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Speaker 9: my husband would kill me.

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Speaker 1: That's you know what you can. We can work through that.

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Speaker 1: There's counselors for that. I appreciate you coming on and sunny,

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Speaker 1: got kids, grandkids out there listening. If you're on social media,

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Speaker 1: really cool social media page, so you can see the

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Speaker 1: Instagram page I follow, It's awesome and you can inspire others.

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Speaker 1: This is exciting news for NASA, it's exciting news for

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Speaker 1: space travel and going to the moon.

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Speaker 2: Sonny.

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Speaker 1: We appreciate your time and congratulations on unbelievable career.

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Speaker 9: Absolutely, Ben, thank you so much.

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Speaker 1: Don't forget share this podcast please with your family and

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Speaker 1: your friends where whoever they are, and I will see

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