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Speaker 1: It's another edition of the Bark Tank. Everybody, welcome in

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Speaker 1: from the home office. My name is Andrew Siciliano. We

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Speaker 1: appreciate you being here. After another tough Browns loss, they

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Speaker 1: go to New England and they fall thirty two to thirteen.

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Speaker 1: It opened well, obviously, Dylan Gabriel and Harold Fannin on

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Speaker 1: the somewhat corny National tight End Day, and then David

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Speaker 1: pretty much decided. Another touchdown on National tight End Day,

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Speaker 1: but there was not enough offense. You know that by now,

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Speaker 1: and the Browns go to two and six entering the

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Speaker 1: bye we are presented by Sugardale as we always are. Sugardale.

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Speaker 1: Everybody brought to you or bringing you the Bark Tank,

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Speaker 1: and I wish I had better news for you. I'm

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Speaker 1: going to quote Alex Wright who spoke right before we

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Speaker 1: sit down to record this. Alex Wright and Joel Batonio

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Speaker 1: speaking on Monday to the Browns media after Kevin Stefanski spoke,

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Speaker 1: and Alex Wright said, and this is a bit of

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Speaker 1: hates losing more than he loves winning. And I think

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Speaker 1: all of us can. But last week did feel really good.

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Speaker 1: You love to win, and I see parallels this year

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Speaker 1: to last where last year, remember we said we the Browns.

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Speaker 1: We had beaten the Ravens, obviously, and then you have

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Speaker 1: a game, and you're like, all right, here, here's the parallel.

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Speaker 1: And I spoke to Kevin Stefanski before the game about

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Speaker 1: But unfortunately the same thing kind of happened and it wasted.

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Speaker 1: And we said this on the broadcast, wasted is not

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Speaker 1: When Miles gets his gold jacket, likely on the very

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Speaker 1: They will show highlights of this game Sunday as well

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Speaker 1: as they'll show highlights of the three sack performance in

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Speaker 1: fifth retirement. They will show highlights from all these games.

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Speaker 1: They're not all built equally. This one the Browns lost

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Speaker 1: and you say, yeah, you wasted a five sack effort.

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Speaker 1: It is just a gut punch. And you saw Miles frustration,

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Speaker 1: Nathan and I saw him throw the helmet that was

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Speaker 1: He threw the helmet two hands bam, right down of

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Speaker 1: Kevin said. Kevin Stefanski said on Monday that it does

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Speaker 1: There'll be a lot of headlines this week about Miles.

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Speaker 1: The only headlines that should matter are the guy's playing

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Speaker 1: We'll find out. We'll find out week number ten, all right,

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Speaker 1: the man that you find out a lot of things from,

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Speaker 1: I know, I like to pump up the guests, right,

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Speaker 1: But I don't think I'm overstating it when I say

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Speaker 1: might even be an inside joke every day Monday through

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Speaker 1: Friday on NFL Network at seven pm Eastern, Right, Mike

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Speaker 2: See seven pm e stude. Yeah, that joke. That joke

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Speaker 3: None of which was available to the public because it's

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Speaker 1: So hence the insiders.

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Speaker 3: I remember when when I was Week eighteen last year,

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Speaker 1: That was good. Yeah, I forgot that one. Actually, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: good times that. It was like twelve degrees Rodney McLeod's

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Speaker 3: I have no idea what movie that was from but.

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Speaker 2: Well, I was gonna say I didn't see that season.

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Speaker 3: I watch Hard Knocks, but eachbo show is like come

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Speaker 1: Regardless. Welcome to the bar Tank, Mike Carriful, happy to

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Speaker 1: have you. As we sit here record this on Monday,

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Speaker 1: I know what he meant to the Jets and certainly

437
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Speaker 1: what he meant to the Buckeye family. He had been

438
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Speaker 1: in Good Morning Football a whole bunch of times, both

439
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Speaker 1: remotely as a player and in studio. How much interaction

440
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Speaker 1: did you have with him? It is just gutting to

441
00:21:16,359 --> 00:21:17,960
Speaker 1: hear the news a couple of weeks after he makes

442
00:21:17,960 --> 00:21:19,520
Speaker 1: a public plea for a kid and then all of

443
00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,320
Speaker 1: a sudden, I mean, our jaws, our jaws hit the

444
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Speaker 1: floor yesterday.

445
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Speaker 2: Yeah, how much interaction. Plenty of interaction.

446
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Speaker 3: I left the Star Ledger in twenty twelve to go

447
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Speaker 3: take a job with the USA.

448
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Speaker 2: Today I was national for.

449
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Speaker 3: The first time ever, which Jason Cole, who had been

450
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Speaker 3: a beat writer who then went national to cover the NFL,

451
00:21:38,160 --> 00:21:40,000
Speaker 3: gave me some of the best advice. He said, You're

452
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Speaker 3: going to feel like you're on a waterbed. You're not

453
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Speaker 3: going to know which way to move because everything when

454
00:21:43,400 --> 00:21:45,639
Speaker 3: you're covering a team is so structured. Now it's going

455
00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:47,159
Speaker 3: to be so wide open, and you're not going to

456
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Speaker 3: know you're standing on a waterbed with the way that

457
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Speaker 3: he said, And I felt that way. But the Jets,

458
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Speaker 3: being close to me, were one of the teams that like, Okay,

459
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Speaker 3: here's where I can kind of sort of start to

460
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Speaker 3: expand and countless. I'm was just going to nickmanth They

461
00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:05,640
Speaker 3: weren't like great sensational quotes, like it's not like, oh man,

462
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Speaker 3: this guy.

463
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Speaker 2: Is phenomenal, he's such a character.

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Speaker 3: It was just good solid information and him knowing what

465
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Speaker 3: position I was in and being courteous with his time

466
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Speaker 3: and as forthcoming as he possibly could be, which was

467
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Speaker 3: the Rex Ryan Jets.

468
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,440
Speaker 2: So it was a little looser than some other teams.

469
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Speaker 3: And always sort of that never taking himself too seriously thing,

470
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Speaker 3: which I can appreciate. And just a lunch pale guy

471
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Speaker 3: when it comes to how he played, how he practiced,

472
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Speaker 3: and how he managed that locker room. Just an ultimate

473
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Speaker 3: professional in every sense of the word. A great guy,

474
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Speaker 3: a great teammate, a great family man. I've traded text

475
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Speaker 3: with his agent over the weekend, who did not have

476
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Speaker 3: not like a lot of high profile guys.

477
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Speaker 2: This was his biggest client.

478
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Speaker 3: I mean, a Hall of Fame client as an agent

479
00:22:52,119 --> 00:22:53,960
Speaker 3: is as good as it gets. And to have a

480
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Speaker 3: Hall of Fame guy on top of it. And I

481
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Speaker 3: feel for him because I know how close they were.

482
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Speaker 3: I feel for his family, I feel for his kids,

483
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Speaker 3: four kids, and I feel for the Jets and the

484
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Speaker 3: way that they came back to win that game yesterday.

485
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Speaker 2: You know, I've seen this before.

486
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Speaker 3: Sometimes it just feels like something a little bit bigger

487
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Speaker 3: is at play.

488
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Speaker 2: And I felt like that yesterday.

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Speaker 3: I mean, you know, those guys didn't play with Nick Mangold,

490
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Speaker 3: but some in the building and they certainly knew what

491
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Speaker 3: he meant to the team. And for them to come

492
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Speaker 3: back and fight the way they did in Ohio, near

493
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Speaker 3: his hometown, I thought that that was terrific and maybe

494
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Speaker 3: if it gives his family ten seconds of peace right now,

495
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Speaker 3: that's a good thing.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I thought Kyle was amazing this morning, our

497
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Speaker 1: friend Kyle Brandon GMTD saying kind of same thing. I

498
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Speaker 1: didn't realize he had four kids. And honestly, I just

499
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Speaker 1: got chills here because I flashed back to a year

500
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Speaker 1: ago with the Browns. We lost our friend Jim Donovan,

501
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Speaker 1: and then the Browns went out there a few days

502
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Speaker 1: later and they beat the Ravens, and yesterday was obviously

503
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Speaker 1: the one year anniversary of Jim's passing. Wish the Browns

504
00:23:59,720 --> 00:24:01,600
Speaker 1: could have the same there and beating the Patriots and

505
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Speaker 1: his honor in his hometown. Unfortunately that did not happen,

506
00:24:04,680 --> 00:24:07,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, the Jets did get their win, and Nick

507
00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:11,920
Speaker 1: Mangold will certainly be missed. You're always loved as well.

508
00:24:12,040 --> 00:24:14,879
Speaker 1: We appreciate you doing this on very short notice, heating

509
00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:16,520
Speaker 1: the call and getting in front of the camera and

510
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,280
Speaker 1: you have better things to do. Please everybody watch The

511
00:24:19,359 --> 00:24:23,439
Speaker 1: Insiders at seven o'clock Eastern time Monday through Friday, and

512
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,520
Speaker 1: especially watch Thursday when Mike Garrifolo is on GMFB. Maybe

513
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Speaker 1: maybe even in Halloween dress up garb.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm done for the year. I did it on Saturday.

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Speaker 2: Let me see if there's still going to be an

516
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Speaker 2: Insiders here with this.

517
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Speaker 1: Yeah, please go answer your text We love you texting

518
00:24:42,560 --> 00:24:45,400
Speaker 1: Mike Garrifalo truly is the best. And yes, one day

519
00:24:45,440 --> 00:24:50,679
Speaker 1: there will be a book written, maybe as maybe the

520
00:24:50,680 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 1: three of them and me and someone else fights to

521
00:24:52,520 --> 00:24:55,680
Speaker 1: write the book about NFL now and the Insiders in

522
00:24:55,840 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 1: just the entire mid afternoon news machine. But Mike and Tom,

523
00:25:00,600 --> 00:25:05,080
Speaker 1: Tom Bilicero, Ian Rappaport are great and collectively they work

524
00:25:05,119 --> 00:25:07,640
Speaker 1: as a fantastic team. Yet scream and yell and point

525
00:25:07,640 --> 00:25:13,120
Speaker 1: fingers at each other lovingly the entire day, seven days

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Speaker 1: a week. And the text thread is ridiculous, whether it's

527
00:25:17,200 --> 00:25:21,000
Speaker 1: that one or the one that is labeled Insiders plus

528
00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:27,119
Speaker 1: Siciliano with a funny picture of me right anyway, final

529
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Speaker 1: thought here, just want to back up about how emotional

530
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Speaker 1: the day was on Sunday. So let's go to about

531
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Speaker 1: forty minutes a half hour before kickoff. We are in

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Speaker 1: the booth, Nathan, myself, the great Jason Gibbs, Mack Robinson,

533
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Speaker 1: Dan Tracy, our core team that is always on the

534
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Speaker 1: road together, and we had talked and even we had

535
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Speaker 1: talked about the week previous about how to honor Jim,

536
00:25:53,320 --> 00:25:56,960
Speaker 1: and the Brown social team did a great job on

537
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Speaker 1: Sunday morning tweeting out some of the great some of

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Speaker 1: Jim's amazing calls. And honestly, there isn't enough room on

539
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Speaker 1: x or in in the ether to play all his

540
00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 1: great calls because there are that many, and they give

541
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Speaker 1: me chills every day, truly every day. And let me

542
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:23,560
Speaker 1: just say this, I there isn't a Brown's touchdown call

543
00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:31,040
Speaker 1: of mine that is played where I don't think what

544
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Speaker 1: would Jim have sounded like calling that same play. I

545
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Speaker 1: don't know that I've ever said that publicly, but believe me,

546
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Speaker 1: I am one of those fans too, because first and foremost,

547
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Speaker 1: as I've always told here, I am a fan. Like

548
00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:51,679
Speaker 1: all this stuff back here, this is mine, Like the

549
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:53,880
Speaker 1: team didn't send it to me, it's mine. And there's

550
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: a whole closet full off camera of old Brown's memorabilia

551
00:26:59,480 --> 00:27:03,280
Speaker 1: that you guys can't see, that stored away. There's even

552
00:27:03,320 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: more in storage up the road. So run, William Run,

553
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 1: or any of his classic calls. I always think of it.

554
00:27:12,800 --> 00:27:15,280
Speaker 1: I think, by the way, what neb Chandler would have

555
00:27:15,400 --> 00:27:20,000
Speaker 1: sounded like, right, five four three two one touchdown Browns.

556
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:24,399
Speaker 1: I always think that. And yesterday, listening to all Jim's

557
00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,240
Speaker 1: calls had brought all that back, obviously, and thinking of

558
00:27:27,280 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: Megan and thinking of Cheryl. And when we get the

559
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 1: Nick Mangold news right before kick, I turned around and

560
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,480
Speaker 1: I said to Gibbey and I said, Nick Mangold just died.

561
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:42,040
Speaker 1: And he said what And I repeated it and he

562
00:27:42,080 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 1: said what I said, Yeah, And we were just in

563
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:54,240
Speaker 1: stunned silence, all the while knowing that in about ten

564
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Speaker 1: minutes we had planned to have Nathan open the broadcast

565
00:28:00,760 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 1: to honoring Jim with with just an amazing, heartfelt tribute.

566
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Speaker 1: And it was heavy, it was it was pretty heavy.

567
00:28:10,960 --> 00:28:12,879
Speaker 1: And then we we got on the air and Nathan

568
00:28:12,920 --> 00:28:16,360
Speaker 1: said what he said, and he was getting emotional, and

569
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Speaker 1: you know, we all got emotional. We were back, we

570
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:25,520
Speaker 1: were back in Massachusetts. Right back in Jim's neighborhood, so

571
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:27,720
Speaker 1: to speak, and it would have been great. Like I

572
00:28:27,760 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: felt it, like we're gonna win. I felt it, We're

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Speaker 1: going to do this for Jim again, and that's what

574
00:28:31,560 --> 00:28:35,440
Speaker 1: I said as as Andre Schmid approached the ball, Let's

575
00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:38,840
Speaker 1: go get a win for Jim, something along those lines. Unfortunately,

576
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:42,800
Speaker 1: we couldn't do it. It would have been great, and

577
00:28:43,160 --> 00:28:47,280
Speaker 1: I wanted Quincheon to break free so I could say, run,

578
00:28:47,360 --> 00:28:53,400
Speaker 1: Quincheon run. That was in my back pocket. It didn't happen, unfortunately,

579
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Speaker 1: But that doesn't make that that That doesn't make how

580
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:06,160
Speaker 1: we feel about Jim any different, obviously. It doesn't make

581
00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:11,440
Speaker 1: the emotions. It doesn't lessen the emotions and lessen the love.

582
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Speaker 1: It was with a heart full of love for Jim

583
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Speaker 1: and his family that we called that game yesterday and

584
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,479
Speaker 1: now it's a bye week and now it's looking ahead

585
00:29:22,240 --> 00:29:25,120
Speaker 1: to the future. So I don't know what I was

586
00:29:25,120 --> 00:29:27,280
Speaker 1: going to say there. I just kind of finished it up,

587
00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:30,520
Speaker 1: so apologize it was kind of meandering there, but you

588
00:29:30,560 --> 00:29:32,480
Speaker 1: get the point. I wish we could have won that,

589
00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:37,520
Speaker 1: and we missed Jim every single day. Friends. The Bark

590
00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:39,920
Speaker 1: Tank has taken the week off. We will be back

591
00:29:40,400 --> 00:29:45,280
Speaker 1: after the Jets game. The Browns will be back week

592
00:29:45,720 --> 00:29:51,480
Speaker 1: number ten. Week number ten on the road at MetLife Stadium,

593
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:55,720
Speaker 1: Browns Jets one o'clock and then the Bark Tank the

594
00:29:55,840 --> 00:29:58,600
Speaker 1: day after. Want to thank Gabe Klora who's been producing

595
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:02,280
Speaker 1: the Bark Tank all the this season, Jason Gibbs obviously,

596
00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:04,920
Speaker 1: and Nathan who's amazing in the booth and you can

597
00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: listen to every day on CBD and was amazing as

598
00:30:08,520 --> 00:30:12,320
Speaker 1: always on Sunday and even took my little Harry Doyle

599
00:30:12,400 --> 00:30:16,200
Speaker 1: jab after he went Major league. Figured let's make it

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Speaker 1: a Harry Doyle kind of Sunday afternoon. Thanks for listening to, liking,

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Speaker 1: subscribing the Bark Dank. Thanks for watching us on the

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Speaker 1: Browns app and on YouTube as well. My name is

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Speaker 1: Andrew Siciliano. Get some rest over the bye week, friends,

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Speaker 1: We'll talk to you so