WEBVTT - Jaguars Happy Hour: Monday, August 12 0:00:01.880 --> 0:00:07.640 It is Monday, August twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour. 0:00:09.440 --> 0:00:13.880 Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans, and now 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:20.360 a guy crying genically frozen for absolute freshness j P. 0:00:21.760 --> 0:00:24.720 Shad Rick. Hopefully not as long as Antonio Brown, but 0:00:25.120 --> 0:00:29.240 that's okay. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet 0:00:29.240 --> 0:00:32.400 Home Loans. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logan, Pete Prisco, Hi, Jeff, 0:00:32.440 --> 0:00:35.120 if your feet were damaged, you'd be okay, though you'd 0:00:35.120 --> 0:00:38.159 be practicing j P. That's right, but you know, I 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:40.680 would use the helmet that they told me to. But 0:00:40.800 --> 0:00:44.239 that's okay. That's a strange deal, and we'll get to 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:46.880 that a little range deal and around the league. Pete Prisco, 0:00:47.000 --> 0:00:48.879 CBS Sports. I got, by the way Logs is in 0:00:48.920 --> 0:00:54.240 because Basselli's sipping tea and eating crumpets. Literally, by the way, 0:00:54.280 --> 0:00:56.640 if we froze Bassell's brain, we can put it in 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:59.600 like one of the little baby jars. Couldn't we tiny 0:00:59.680 --> 0:01:03.320 lot at the museum somewhere right? Yeah, that's good, Pete, 0:01:04.080 --> 0:01:07.480 that's a pretty good one. I like it. Um, We've 0:01:07.520 --> 0:01:10.600 got plenty to get to on this program today. Left 0:01:10.600 --> 0:01:13.800 Tackle News that was the big news of today. Nick 0:01:13.880 --> 0:01:17.520 Voles speaks. The quarterback talking is always news. We'll hear 0:01:17.560 --> 0:01:22.000 from QB coming up. Philosophy of starting or not starting 0:01:22.000 --> 0:01:25.959 in the preseason, you're your starters for the regular season. 0:01:26.400 --> 0:01:28.520 That's been a hot topic lately. Break that down. We'll 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.680 go around the National Football League as well. Let's start 0:01:30.880 --> 0:01:33.959 today with the left tackle news. We'll start actually on Saturday, 0:01:34.440 --> 0:01:37.800 Doug Moron, the Jaguars head coach, broke the news that 0:01:37.920 --> 0:01:39.840 he wasn't sure some of these guys will be ready, 0:01:39.880 --> 0:01:44.720 including Cam Robinson and Doug was down on Saturday. You know, 0:01:44.800 --> 0:01:47.160 those guys are really trying hard, but today it was 0:01:47.240 --> 0:01:49.280 kind of a benchmark. You know, they try to kind 0:01:49.280 --> 0:01:51.600 of get them back. I don't know if they're gonna 0:01:51.600 --> 0:01:54.320 be ready, you know, for the season. So you know, 0:01:54.320 --> 0:01:57.440 they're working hard, the train is working hard, and everybody's 0:01:57.440 --> 0:02:00.160 working hard for uh, you know, but we just can't 0:02:00.160 --> 0:02:02.840 get him over the hump. So we've gotta go and 0:02:03.280 --> 0:02:09.160 start preparing um to play without him. That's Saturday. Let's 0:02:09.440 --> 0:02:13.400 move to Monday morning today at T I A. Bank Field, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.239 the Jaguars back in the practice field about five and 0:02:16.280 --> 0:02:19.760 about eight fifteen, The first question of Doug Maron today 0:02:19.880 --> 0:02:23.720 was the latest on Cam Robinson. B injuries have been 0:02:23.760 --> 0:02:27.239 a big thing. We do have one change, uh, you know, 0:02:27.280 --> 0:02:30.040 which we were excited about. Obviously, Cam Robinson is gonna 0:02:30.040 --> 0:02:33.799 be off a pup, so, um, he'll be out there 0:02:33.840 --> 0:02:36.880 on the practice field. He'll be going through walks throughs 0:02:36.919 --> 0:02:42.120 and uh individual So that's the good news. Cam Robinson 0:02:42.160 --> 0:02:44.720 back in the practice field. We had a chance to 0:02:44.760 --> 0:02:48.000 see Cam Robinson on the practice field individuals walk throughs 0:02:48.000 --> 0:02:51.000 today and then we heard from the big fellow after practice. 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.440 What in the world Cam Robinson back out there? Yeah? 0:02:54.480 --> 0:02:57.320 I had a plan this whole time. Uh mean a 0:02:57.360 --> 0:03:01.000 week be back about week one. Um, I ever to 0:03:01.000 --> 0:03:02.360 put its time tape one, and I was just based 0:03:02.400 --> 0:03:04.760 on how I felt coming in each and every day. 0:03:05.120 --> 0:03:07.080 Anything anybody said, it didn't come from me. So long, 0:03:07.200 --> 0:03:09.600 I've never really paid so much attention to us. So 0:03:09.880 --> 0:03:14.080 people gonna talk. Okay, here he is about eleven months 0:03:14.120 --> 0:03:16.680 since that injury and he's finally back on the practice 0:03:16.720 --> 0:03:18.679 field in a limited role. Here that that's a long 0:03:18.760 --> 0:03:23.120 time for for most guys, especially offensive lineman, to finally 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:26.560 come back to practice. You're talking about eleven months. Most 0:03:26.600 --> 0:03:29.280 guys are back to some form of practice. Usually ten 0:03:29.400 --> 0:03:32.000 is usually at the latest, Pete. I mean some some 0:03:32.040 --> 0:03:34.680 guys are back sooner than that, maybe nine months for 0:03:34.680 --> 0:03:38.600 for an offensive lineman. Yeah, and that leads me the 0:03:38.760 --> 0:03:41.640 little bit of a red flag for me. And I 0:03:41.640 --> 0:03:44.640 think we talked about this Jeff when I was up there. Um, 0:03:44.680 --> 0:03:47.920 that's a long time and Joe did he not do 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:51.120 his rehab as diligently as he should? Was there a 0:03:51.200 --> 0:03:54.840 message sent by the head coach uh the other day? 0:03:54.840 --> 0:03:56.840 And you you know, Jeff, you played for Tom. You 0:03:56.840 --> 0:03:58.960 know how Tom would send those messages through the media 0:03:59.520 --> 0:04:02.040 and try and get those two the players. That looked 0:04:02.040 --> 0:04:05.160 like a message that was sent to him and message 0:04:05.200 --> 0:04:07.360 received because he was on the p off the pup 0:04:07.480 --> 0:04:09.560 list today, Well let me let me kind of. You 0:04:10.000 --> 0:04:12.240 got two separate things going on there now. Number one 0:04:12.360 --> 0:04:15.040 is is look, every knee is different. You know, could 0:04:15.200 --> 0:04:19.080 Cam Robinson's knee have responded later and that's why you 0:04:19.120 --> 0:04:21.800 know it has taken him some time to get back. Yes, 0:04:22.560 --> 0:04:24.880 So I don't want to sit here and say, Okay, 0:04:24.920 --> 0:04:27.680 it's it's on the player. Maybe he had something that 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:31.320 needed to be further strengthened or any something like that. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:34.000 It's uncomfortable with something. I mean, look, I mean everybody's different. 0:04:34.120 --> 0:04:36.320 I mean not everybody comes back on the cookie Cutter 0:04:36.800 --> 0:04:42.240 rehab schedules, So something could have altered that schedule for him. Now, 0:04:43.240 --> 0:04:46.480 was this a message from Doug Marone on Saturday which 0:04:46.520 --> 0:04:52.119 prompted his return today? I will say this, Doug Moron, 0:04:52.480 --> 0:04:56.400 I've never gotten the impression, and never from talking with him, 0:04:56.720 --> 0:04:59.560 felt like he has ever sent any message through the media. 0:05:00.040 --> 0:05:02.800 I've never known him to do that. I think in 0:05:02.839 --> 0:05:05.240 this situation here, because when you get down to the 0:05:05.400 --> 0:05:08.960 end where a player has to clear medical hurdles to 0:05:09.080 --> 0:05:11.240 get cleared for practice so that he can be taken 0:05:11.240 --> 0:05:14.640 off of the up, the majority of that information is 0:05:14.680 --> 0:05:18.719 based on what the person or the individual is telling 0:05:18.760 --> 0:05:21.920 the doctor and then the doctor makes a judgment call 0:05:22.400 --> 0:05:27.719 from that information. So did this end up maybe opening 0:05:27.760 --> 0:05:31.279 the eyes of Cam Robinson? Oh my gosh. Uh, they're 0:05:31.320 --> 0:05:34.640 preparing without me. I might not be ready or there 0:05:34.680 --> 0:05:36.760 might not be a job for me opening day if 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.640 I don't hurry up and get back. I mean, did 0:05:38.680 --> 0:05:43.560 it open Cam Robinson's eyes? Maybe? Was it intended to 0:05:43.560 --> 0:05:45.479 be a message by Doug Moron. I don't think it 0:05:45.560 --> 0:05:48.200 was intended to be a message by Doug Moron. Doug 0:05:48.240 --> 0:05:51.000 Maron goes based off of what the doctors and the 0:05:51.040 --> 0:05:56.360 trainers are telling him. So but but Jeff, you know 0:05:56.600 --> 0:06:00.040 better than that that Tom never would push back on 0:06:00.120 --> 0:06:02.360 the doctors back. And then I'm not saying Doug did here, 0:06:02.800 --> 0:06:05.440 but we know coaches that do do that, and they've 0:06:05.480 --> 0:06:08.279 done it over the years. See, for me, isn't this 0:06:08.360 --> 0:06:11.200 a matter of can you do your work without having 0:06:11.320 --> 0:06:14.159 swelling and any other issues? And maybe he got to 0:06:14.200 --> 0:06:17.160 that point where yesterday he did his like a couple 0:06:17.160 --> 0:06:19.200 of days of work and there was no swelling, and 0:06:19.240 --> 0:06:22.560 they said, okay, let's go, then let's go talk. I 0:06:22.560 --> 0:06:25.000 think this was I think this is a I mean, 0:06:25.040 --> 0:06:27.040 forty eight hours is not going to change whether or 0:06:27.080 --> 0:06:29.360 not you're gonna have swelling or not. I mean, that's 0:06:29.360 --> 0:06:31.680 not going to change. And the only thing that's gonna 0:06:31.800 --> 0:06:34.880 change is the information that the individuals given the doctor 0:06:35.200 --> 0:06:37.320 based on can he or can he not do what 0:06:37.440 --> 0:06:41.120 is required of him out of practice. So I mean, 0:06:41.240 --> 0:06:44.040 if that's the case, then the message maybe maybe it 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:47.800 wasn't a clear message from Doug moron. But if it 0:06:47.880 --> 0:06:51.320 wasn't it worked exactly. Maybe it wasn't a message, but 0:06:51.400 --> 0:06:55.159 maybe it worked as one, which is fine. Yeah, maybe 0:06:55.160 --> 0:06:57.520 that message came from above and Doug was the mouthpiece, 0:06:57.560 --> 0:07:01.640 if you know what I mean, I wouldn't say that 0:07:03.240 --> 0:07:06.960 Pete Wood and he does often. So yes, I look, 0:07:06.960 --> 0:07:10.680 I'm glad he's back. And uh and Pete, I'll tell 0:07:10.680 --> 0:07:13.680 you this, I'm glad he's back because if he wants 0:07:13.760 --> 0:07:16.400 to be ready for opening Day, he's got to come 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:20.120 back and he's got to compete with oh boy, and 0:07:20.160 --> 0:07:22.720 he's got a show that he's gonna be the best 0:07:22.800 --> 0:07:26.720 option for the left tackle position. And that's not gonna 0:07:26.720 --> 0:07:28.680 be easy to do because you're talking about a player 0:07:28.720 --> 0:07:31.800 who has not done a practice yet in his return 0:07:31.880 --> 0:07:34.520 from an A c L reconstruction, and you're talking about 0:07:34.520 --> 0:07:37.200 competing with a guy who look, by the way, he 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.040 was a first round pick too. Uh, so he's got 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.560 some talent and it wasn't like that it was a 0:07:42.600 --> 0:07:44.720 reach for the Bengals. I mean, he was a consensus 0:07:44.720 --> 0:07:48.640 first round pick. That kind of messed him, kind of 0:07:48.640 --> 0:07:50.280 messed up his draft stas, but he was still a 0:07:50.280 --> 0:07:53.440 first round pick, you know, So I mean this, this, 0:07:53.440 --> 0:07:55.480 This is exactly what you want to think of. You're 0:07:55.480 --> 0:07:58.880 a coach. You want a position battle for the opening 0:07:58.960 --> 0:08:02.760 day starting job. There's nothing wrong with that. You would 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:08.360 like to have your five guys get some work together eventually, though, 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.880 you know what I mean, before week one. You want 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:12.520 your five guys who were going to be your starting 0:08:12.560 --> 0:08:17.840 offensive alignment to have some kind of cohesiveness. Sure a 0:08:17.840 --> 0:08:20.840 practice field or in a game or whatever, right that 0:08:20.920 --> 0:08:23.680 spot is open. Isn't there a battle at right guard 0:08:23.720 --> 0:08:26.840 going on now too? With Can and Richardson? Is now 0:08:26.920 --> 0:08:29.600 open battle too? Well? Look, I don't think it's a 0:08:29.640 --> 0:08:33.240 spoken job that's open, but I think, look, here's the reality. 0:08:33.360 --> 0:08:37.080 Every job is open, and it sounds pretty public to 0:08:37.080 --> 0:08:38.840 me when they said it the other day. They're talking 0:08:38.880 --> 0:08:41.320 about will Richardson Junia, he has a chance to win us. 0:08:41.600 --> 0:08:43.160 I mean, first of all, if you're going to compete 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:45.640 for a starting right guard job, what's the first requirement 0:08:46.320 --> 0:08:49.160 you need to play right guard? Okay, what did he 0:08:49.200 --> 0:08:52.120 do in Game one? Played right tackle? Because of the 0:08:52.200 --> 0:08:54.000 numbers game because of the injuries that they had at 0:08:54.000 --> 0:08:57.000 the tackle position, Will Richardson had to play right tackle. 0:08:57.520 --> 0:09:00.880 So can he win that job, sure, but he's got 0:09:00.880 --> 0:09:03.000 to be given the opportunity to play reps at right 0:09:03.000 --> 0:09:04.920 guard in a game situation. I mean, that's where the 0:09:04.960 --> 0:09:07.400 ultimate trust is gonna come from. So I think we'll 0:09:08.960 --> 0:09:11.400 not on a message, but Can was one of the 0:09:11.400 --> 0:09:14.439 few guys that actually lined up and played the other 0:09:14.559 --> 0:09:17.520 night as a start, as a potential starter that was 0:09:17.679 --> 0:09:21.280 a little well well. I think two reasons for that, Pete. 0:09:21.720 --> 0:09:24.559 Number one is is that they feel that a J 0:09:24.800 --> 0:09:26.960 needs the reps. I thought a J came out last year, 0:09:27.000 --> 0:09:29.000 had a wonderful camp. He was keeping his head up. 0:09:29.040 --> 0:09:31.600 The new emphasis on the helmet rule with the offensive lineman, 0:09:31.720 --> 0:09:34.559 it made him a better player. You've seen a couple 0:09:34.559 --> 0:09:36.800 of times where he's fallen back into that trap or 0:09:36.840 --> 0:09:38.520 the head has started to drop. But the other thing 0:09:38.600 --> 0:09:40.520 is that they want to know if a J can 0:09:40.600 --> 0:09:43.680 can be a center, And if a J can can 0:09:43.720 --> 0:09:46.640 be a center, then that changes the dynamic of what 0:09:46.679 --> 0:09:49.079 they do on game day. It also changes the dynamic 0:09:49.360 --> 0:09:51.400 of what they're gonna do too as far as shaping 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.480 the roster at the offensive line position, because if you 0:09:54.559 --> 0:09:58.439 can have him snap, does that give you an option 0:09:58.480 --> 0:10:02.600 of letting Tyler Shatley go and keeping these extra tackles maybe, 0:10:03.080 --> 0:10:05.640 or does it just give you an option on game 0:10:05.720 --> 0:10:11.680 day of having a j Can active with Will Richardson Jr. 0:10:11.840 --> 0:10:14.480 Active as well with oh boy he active in Cam 0:10:14.600 --> 0:10:17.040 Robinson as a starter, or flip the tackles however you 0:10:17.080 --> 0:10:19.079 want to do it. But if you're gonna have seven 0:10:19.080 --> 0:10:21.400 active on game day, somebody's gotta be able to play 0:10:21.400 --> 0:10:23.720 center in a pinch. So does that give you the 0:10:23.720 --> 0:10:28.160 ability to where Shatley is not that option? Maybe? Maybe? Jeff, 0:10:28.200 --> 0:10:30.720 I'm gonna pin you down right now, we're a month away. 0:10:31.760 --> 0:10:38.360 Who starts opening day on that offensive line? I think 0:10:38.440 --> 0:10:40.480 I think everything is obviously. I think A. J. Cann 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.959 is the starter right guard. I don't think that there 0:10:42.960 --> 0:10:45.800 will be enough opportunity or reps for Will Richardson Jr. 0:10:45.880 --> 0:10:48.120 To be able to gain some traction at the right 0:10:48.120 --> 0:10:53.640 guard position the left tackle position. To me, uh, I mean, 0:10:54.640 --> 0:10:56.079 how do you pick it now? I mean we've we've 0:10:56.080 --> 0:10:58.280 seen Came Robinson at one practice and he didn't even 0:10:58.320 --> 0:11:01.560 really do any team reps. You know, if I had 0:11:01.600 --> 0:11:04.839 to pick right now, if he's back, then I think 0:11:04.920 --> 0:11:07.360 Cam Robinson because he's their draft pick and he said 0:11:07.360 --> 0:11:09.520 he struggled. Don't get me wrong, I never thought he was. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:12.440 He had a great two first two seasons, even before 0:11:12.440 --> 0:11:15.720 we got hurt last year. So I think, but I 0:11:15.760 --> 0:11:17.520 get I get what you're saying that. I get what 0:11:17.520 --> 0:11:18.839 you're saying, but I think he's going to be the 0:11:18.920 --> 0:11:22.599 left tackle. But if he falters, if he falters and 0:11:22.679 --> 0:11:25.320 his footwork is not clean, and he's shown any signs 0:11:25.840 --> 0:11:28.959 of not being back and ready to go, then a 0:11:29.120 --> 0:11:31.240 way he's in. And I think, now you're you know, 0:11:31.320 --> 0:11:35.760 hopefully Joan Taylor starts to get back to practice and 0:11:35.800 --> 0:11:37.920 he can take the majority of the reps right you 0:11:37.920 --> 0:11:39.840 would look the reality of he's going to be your 0:11:39.840 --> 0:11:42.959 starter at right tackle. I think everybody knows that, and 0:11:42.960 --> 0:11:45.240 everybody can see that. I mean, it would be tough 0:11:45.280 --> 0:11:46.760 not to be able to see that with your own eyes. 0:11:47.440 --> 0:11:52.440 So but because of that right tackle issue of health, 0:11:52.840 --> 0:11:56.400 and because of the right guard issue of health, you're 0:11:56.400 --> 0:11:58.600 having to do some things with guys that you would 0:11:58.640 --> 0:12:02.240 like to do something differently. So it's a numbers game 0:12:02.240 --> 0:12:04.040 piece sometimes. Look when a couple of guys are down, 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.120 did you get to evaluate will richardson where you'd like 0:12:07.160 --> 0:12:09.760 to evaluate a mat which is right guard. No, he's 0:12:09.760 --> 0:12:12.120 gotta play right tackle. That's what your numbers tell you. 0:12:13.480 --> 0:12:16.040 Interesting stuff in the offensive line, that's a training camp 0:12:16.040 --> 0:12:19.319 in the preseason. All that and look, it's great. I 0:12:19.400 --> 0:12:22.199 thought A J. Cann did a pretty good job at center, 0:12:22.240 --> 0:12:23.880 and the reps that he got during the game, do 0:12:23.880 --> 0:12:25.800 you think so I did a pretty good job. The 0:12:25.800 --> 0:12:28.400 biggest question that I have for A J. Can Pete 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:29.640 and you know this, I mean, when you have a 0:12:29.640 --> 0:12:33.560 guy that is not a historic center, which I mean 0:12:33.600 --> 0:12:35.280 you know you're born and raised and you were playing 0:12:35.280 --> 0:12:38.280 center since little league in high school. What happens in 0:12:38.320 --> 0:12:40.240 a shotgun snap and you got a guy right on 0:12:40.280 --> 0:12:43.760 top of your nose? Right? I mean, look, it's it's 0:12:43.840 --> 0:12:46.439 easy to do it in practice. All of a sudden, 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:50.360 the lights get bright and you put uh Aaron Donald 0:12:50.920 --> 0:12:55.080 on top of you and you're in a shotgun situation. 0:12:57.920 --> 0:13:00.800 Is it's never gonna get the nick foles, you know. 0:13:00.920 --> 0:13:02.880 So those are the things that are hard to evaluate 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.480 and until you get under the lights in the preseason. 0:13:07.480 --> 0:13:09.600 And then that's one of the reasons why I think 0:13:09.600 --> 0:13:12.960 A J. Candell is active when so many others starters 0:13:13.000 --> 0:13:15.640 were not active. You need to evaluate him as a center. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:18.760 We'll have plenty more talk on the left tackle position. 0:13:18.800 --> 0:13:21.560 We will get to your questions on social media today 0:13:21.600 --> 0:13:25.200 as well. Send us a tweet on Twitter, that's where 0:13:25.200 --> 0:13:26.920 you send tweets, and we'll get to those in the 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:30.160 second hour to including some questions about the left tackle 0:13:30.240 --> 0:13:33.080 well and and coming up and questions about the left 0:13:33.120 --> 0:13:36.000 tackle that was in a Twitter video. We'll get to 0:13:36.040 --> 0:13:39.280 that in the questions. I got a lot of questions 0:13:39.320 --> 0:13:42.480 about that video. Yes, we will. We'll delve back into 0:13:42.520 --> 0:13:44.240 that a little bit later today. We'll come back in 0:13:44.280 --> 0:13:49.320 a moment and the philosophy of starting or not starting, 0:13:49.480 --> 0:13:52.360 to start or not to start, that is the question 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:54.959 we'll hear from Nick Foles when we come back. It's 0:13:55.080 --> 0:13:57.599 Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans on the 0:13:57.679 --> 0:14:07.440 Jaguars Digital Network. 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So we're 0:17:29.080 --> 0:17:31.119 getting those game reps out here. Obviously it's not in 0:17:31.160 --> 0:17:33.480 a stadium, it's not under the lights, UM, and that 0:17:33.640 --> 0:17:35.720 is a different animal in itself. But we're we're getting 0:17:35.760 --> 0:17:37.679 a lot of work, um, and you know when we 0:17:37.720 --> 0:17:39.440 do take the film coach aside that you know we'll 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:40.919 be ready. You know, we'll be ready to roll. And 0:17:41.000 --> 0:17:42.760 you know there's always some butterflies when you get back 0:17:42.760 --> 0:17:45.159 out there to play. Non't matter what game you're playing in. 0:17:45.200 --> 0:17:47.200 But you know, I know our guys are working hard. 0:17:47.320 --> 0:17:51.200 Right now, there's your quarterback Nick Foles today after practice 0:17:51.880 --> 0:17:54.879 Welcome Back Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, 0:17:54.920 --> 0:17:58.719 J P. Shadrick, Jeff Flaguman in for Tony Bussell's to night, 0:17:59.240 --> 0:18:03.360 Thank you, sure you appreciate it, and Pete Prisco down 0:18:04.240 --> 0:18:06.440 we got an upgrade tonight. J B. This is what 0:18:06.480 --> 0:18:10.800 we call in the business. And that ain't hard. Wow, 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:13.439 that's not hard, right, Yeah, you can just stepped in 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:17.080 there and make sure we replay that on game day 0:18:17.080 --> 0:18:21.560 for Basel. By the way, Thursday Night's Eagles Jaguars game 0:18:21.600 --> 0:18:27.359 is presented by pet Paradise Will Nick Foles? Should Nick 0:18:27.400 --> 0:18:31.640 Foles play anything of this game Thursday Night? I want 0:18:31.640 --> 0:18:33.399 to let Pete start this because I think this is 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.120 a great debate and I don't I don't think there's 0:18:35.119 --> 0:18:37.360 any right answer, but people will swear up and down 0:18:37.359 --> 0:18:40.040 that he has the right answer. Well, my right answer 0:18:40.119 --> 0:18:43.440 is he should play, um, you know, and then look 0:18:43.440 --> 0:18:46.439 a series or two whatever, depending on how long the 0:18:46.480 --> 0:18:48.800 series is. That the series is three and out and 0:18:48.880 --> 0:18:50.760 you put him in for a second one. If the 0:18:50.840 --> 0:18:53.960 series is you know, eight plays and you get a 0:18:54.000 --> 0:18:55.520 field goal out of it, then you get them out 0:18:55.520 --> 0:18:57.400 of there. But I think he needs to get to work. 0:18:57.600 --> 0:19:00.240 I think you can wait till week three. You know 0:19:00.280 --> 0:19:03.280 you're not playing in week four. Uh so yeah, I 0:19:03.320 --> 0:19:05.480 think he does need to get to work. But nothing important. 0:19:05.680 --> 0:19:07.399 You know. I was talk having a chat with Philip 0:19:07.440 --> 0:19:09.280 Rowers the other night on the sideline. I would say, 0:19:09.320 --> 0:19:11.480 do you get anything out of preseason? He says, I 0:19:11.520 --> 0:19:13.480 get way more out of the practices and that are 0:19:13.480 --> 0:19:16.000 working with other teams. He had forty throws against the 0:19:16.080 --> 0:19:18.160 Rams the other day. Have he played in the preseason 0:19:18.160 --> 0:19:21.320 he might get too maybe in the first quarter, I 0:19:21.320 --> 0:19:23.800 mean the first couple of drives. So I do think 0:19:23.800 --> 0:19:25.480 it will be careful with it. But I would play 0:19:25.560 --> 0:19:27.520 him this week if I were the Jaguars. Did you 0:19:27.560 --> 0:19:31.680 hear those numbers? It's amazing, right, Okay? Yeah? Uh and 0:19:31.800 --> 0:19:34.639 uh that's something that I'm gonna actually have a conversation 0:19:34.720 --> 0:19:37.920 with Doug Moron about for the pregame interview. I've got 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.040 it on my list Radio, I've got I've got it 0:19:40.080 --> 0:19:43.080 on my list things to ask Doug Moron because you 0:19:43.119 --> 0:19:45.359 know what, it's been a hot topic. Yes, it really 0:19:45.400 --> 0:19:48.160 has been. And uh, and we're also going to talk 0:19:48.200 --> 0:19:50.160 with him about it for Jaguars weekend coming up. We'll 0:19:50.160 --> 0:19:53.439 talk to him about it after the preseason game number two. 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:55.680 But then we'll find out what happens in preseason game 0:19:55.760 --> 0:20:01.000 number two. Cool. Uh, what is the right answer in 0:20:01.040 --> 0:20:04.080 today's NFL. I don't know if there is a right answer, 0:20:04.119 --> 0:20:08.320 but what I feel more comfortable seeing my starters out there. Yes, 0:20:08.880 --> 0:20:11.240 but I will say this, Pete. When you go to 0:20:11.359 --> 0:20:15.480 a Jaguars practice, whether they be in Baltimore or out 0:20:15.520 --> 0:20:18.639 here at the practice fields, you are seeing the number 0:20:18.680 --> 0:20:22.240 ones get a for And I have a word that 0:20:22.280 --> 0:20:25.040 I would use to describe it, which is a pile 0:20:25.080 --> 0:20:27.600 of you know, a bunch of pile, but I'll use 0:20:27.640 --> 0:20:30.679 this term. They are taking a lot of snaps in 0:20:30.800 --> 0:20:34.280 practice and against the Baltimore Ravens, and two practices against 0:20:34.280 --> 0:20:37.359 the Ravens, the number one took the majority of the snaps. 0:20:37.400 --> 0:20:41.080 So I think the philosophy shift is this, if you 0:20:41.200 --> 0:20:45.040 play them in the game, you're probably backing out of 0:20:45.119 --> 0:20:48.280 some reps in practice. Or you could flip that. You 0:20:48.359 --> 0:20:52.119 could decrease the reps in a game and increase the 0:20:52.160 --> 0:20:54.520 reps in practice in a controlled environment where you know 0:20:54.600 --> 0:20:57.280 your starters, the guys that are critical are not gonna 0:20:57.320 --> 0:21:01.360 get hurt. So what is the right of doing things? Well, 0:21:01.400 --> 0:21:03.280 I don't think there's a right answer here, but I 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:06.560 will say that it makes the fan base and it 0:21:06.600 --> 0:21:10.719 makes us as observers probably more comfortable by seeing the 0:21:10.800 --> 0:21:14.639 starters and the team play. Right. So, I mean, what 0:21:14.680 --> 0:21:16.760 are we looking for? Are we looking for the team 0:21:16.800 --> 0:21:19.639 to play so we can go, oh, our team is 0:21:19.680 --> 0:21:23.199 gonna be okay, they looked good the other night, Or 0:21:23.200 --> 0:21:26.399 what's the more important thing when the game start for 0:21:26.440 --> 0:21:30.360 real and September Now, here's a question for you. If 0:21:30.560 --> 0:21:33.959 the entire offensive line is healthy, if everybody in this 0:21:34.080 --> 0:21:36.760 offense is healthy and ready to go, does that make 0:21:36.800 --> 0:21:39.040 a difference right now? Like, if you what do you 0:21:39.080 --> 0:21:41.080 mean as far as if everybody's healthy, it doesn't make 0:21:41.080 --> 0:21:43.240 a difference what your decision is right now? For a 0:21:43.280 --> 0:21:48.000 week two do no does not either playful to two 0:21:48.160 --> 0:21:50.000 series or you don't play him at all. It doesn't 0:21:50.000 --> 0:21:52.199 have any baring on who's in the in the for 0:21:52.280 --> 0:21:54.760 me on the offensive line. You know. Here's the other 0:21:54.800 --> 0:21:58.760 thing is anything you take away from preseason. And Jeff, 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:00.359 you've known this for a long time. I have to 0:22:00.840 --> 0:22:06.199 you can't take anything from games, nothing, zero, zippo, because 0:22:06.359 --> 0:22:10.600 nobody schemes anything. It's hard to evaluate players. It's just 0:22:10.720 --> 0:22:14.119 for me. I think sometimes guys are just trying to 0:22:14.119 --> 0:22:17.679 get acclimated to the game speed. Uh. And so for me, 0:22:17.800 --> 0:22:21.320 I I almost never take anything from the preseason, and 0:22:21.359 --> 0:22:23.440 it used to be a week three you could take 0:22:23.440 --> 0:22:26.280 stuff from that because supposedly it was game week. Even 0:22:26.280 --> 0:22:30.000 that has been pulled back some and so so it's 0:22:30.040 --> 0:22:32.199 hard to get a real I get more out of 0:22:32.240 --> 0:22:35.560 watching two teams practice against each other then I do 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:37.520 at any of the preseason games. Yeah. I think I 0:22:37.520 --> 0:22:40.359 think that's more valuable, the practice time going against somebody 0:22:40.359 --> 0:22:42.480 than actual the games. Even though the game snaps. You know, 0:22:42.520 --> 0:22:45.159 you do have benefit of it because the intensity ramps up. 0:22:45.400 --> 0:22:47.520 They're getting a player who wants to compete at a 0:22:47.600 --> 0:22:51.240 high level. Uh, you know, So, I mean, I don't 0:22:51.240 --> 0:22:52.919 know if there's a right answer. And you bring up 0:22:52.960 --> 0:22:57.280 you bring up a great point. How do you evaluate preseason? Okay, 0:22:57.720 --> 0:23:01.040 Number one is is what is the game? M Do 0:23:01.119 --> 0:23:05.280 you think that Todd wash is playing his nickel defense 0:23:05.440 --> 0:23:08.920 with the full bag of calls in a preseason game? 0:23:09.080 --> 0:23:13.320 So if if he's not, can you really evaluate the 0:23:13.320 --> 0:23:15.200 game and say, boy, that was good or that was bad? 0:23:15.840 --> 0:23:17.960 You can't because a lot of times when when the 0:23:18.040 --> 0:23:20.360 Jaguars are playing in the preseason game, they might have 0:23:20.800 --> 0:23:24.840 four plays in the playbook and its entirety offensively and 0:23:24.920 --> 0:23:27.080 run those four plays play in and play out. So 0:23:27.119 --> 0:23:29.680 they're not changing anything up. They're not giving anything any 0:23:29.720 --> 0:23:32.000 kind of different looks. And you know what, the defense 0:23:32.080 --> 0:23:34.960 may be playing guys that normally wouldn't play, or the 0:23:35.040 --> 0:23:37.639 defense maybe playing a defensive system that they're not gonna 0:23:37.680 --> 0:23:41.840 play in that situation in a regular game. For examples, 0:23:41.840 --> 0:23:43.800 like the other night I did the Cardinals game right 0:23:43.840 --> 0:23:46.040 I was in Arizona. Want to go see Murray's first game. 0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:49.359 He completed five or six passes or whatever it was. 0:23:49.720 --> 0:23:52.520 He didn't play in any style or four of the 0:23:52.560 --> 0:23:55.040 offense that they're gonna use during the regular season nothing. 0:23:55.320 --> 0:23:58.440 It was zero. Well, there's many times Kingsbury like to 0:23:58.440 --> 0:24:01.440 spread people out and play five. I mean, people don't 0:24:01.520 --> 0:24:04.080 show things in the preseason. But if you go to 0:24:04.160 --> 0:24:06.400 a practice, and I'm sure you guys saw this last 0:24:06.480 --> 0:24:08.720 year last week at Baltimore, when you go to a 0:24:08.760 --> 0:24:11.399 practice where they're working against other team, they'll do a 0:24:11.400 --> 0:24:14.600 lot more of their stuff. They'll show more stuff because 0:24:14.600 --> 0:24:18.480 it's not on tape, and you know, it's not easy 0:24:18.600 --> 0:24:20.880 to get log on and find it and see it. 0:24:21.119 --> 0:24:23.119 So I think you show a lot more and working 0:24:23.160 --> 0:24:25.159 a lot more when you're going against the team in 0:24:25.200 --> 0:24:29.160 practice than you're doing the preseason. For example, real quick, JP, 0:24:30.280 --> 0:24:34.280 multiple times in a preseason game, you've seen the Jaguars 0:24:34.400 --> 0:24:36.960 playing an offense that might be in a three wide 0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:40.520 receiver set, but yet the Jaguars are playing a base defense. 0:24:41.040 --> 0:24:44.359 I mean, they're not even playing a nickel defense versus 0:24:44.720 --> 0:24:46.960 three or four wides. They're like, we'll just play it 0:24:46.960 --> 0:24:49.320 in based defense because that's what we have and and 0:24:49.359 --> 0:24:51.639 we don't want to substitute the extra defensive backs or 0:24:51.680 --> 0:24:57.040 it's a personnel issue or what you know. So so, 0:24:57.160 --> 0:24:59.920 I mean, so in the preseason. You never get apple 0:25:00.040 --> 0:25:03.000 to apples and oranges to oranges. You always get apples 0:25:03.080 --> 0:25:05.520 versus oranges and oranges versus apples. Well, let me ask 0:25:05.560 --> 0:25:08.320 you this, guys, when is this gonna change? Are they 0:25:08.320 --> 0:25:11.320 gonna shorten this preseason at some point down? It's that 0:25:11.880 --> 0:25:13.719 you in a perfect world, you'd like to see him 0:25:13.720 --> 0:25:15.800 short in the preseason, But are they going to? I mean, 0:25:16.200 --> 0:25:18.879 here's the thing. Do you do? You go to your 0:25:18.920 --> 0:25:22.120 fan base and say, hey, look we're taking away two 0:25:22.160 --> 0:25:25.600 preseason games, and so now your per ticket charges increased 0:25:25.640 --> 0:25:29.840 per game for season tickets. Uh, you know, I mean, 0:25:30.440 --> 0:25:34.840 I think that's that's the one obstacle I think to 0:25:35.560 --> 0:25:39.080 to eliminating it's part of the preseason or all of 0:25:39.080 --> 0:25:41.360 the preseason. But the reality is that every coach will 0:25:41.400 --> 0:25:43.639 tell you that, and I think the majority of the 0:25:43.680 --> 0:25:46.520 consensus is among coaches in the National Football League that 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:50.880 if you give them two preseason games, that is plenty. 0:25:50.920 --> 0:25:53.200 And anybody the coach that will tell you anything different 0:25:53.240 --> 0:25:57.520 Pete is not telling the truth too. And work with 0:25:57.560 --> 0:26:02.120 other teams either, you know, maybe me twice and for example, 0:26:02.720 --> 0:26:04.960 I'm a big believer in I do still think it's 0:26:04.960 --> 0:26:06.920 going to eighteen games at some point. I mean that's 0:26:06.920 --> 0:26:09.560 a reality. The rosters are gonna get increased, there's gonna 0:26:09.560 --> 0:26:11.679 be more jobs, more money than networks will like it, 0:26:11.960 --> 0:26:13.560 the teams will like it, the owners will like it, 0:26:13.600 --> 0:26:16.399 the players will make more money, and there'll be more jobs. 0:26:16.400 --> 0:26:18.480 So I do think it's going there. But you gotta 0:26:18.480 --> 0:26:20.199 get rid of two of them. And what you do 0:26:20.359 --> 0:26:24.840 is Jacksonville went't worked out with Baltimore for for two days. 0:26:24.880 --> 0:26:26.960 That's still gonna happen. But I still think they need 0:26:27.000 --> 0:26:29.680 to add something else and what I would add, and 0:26:29.720 --> 0:26:32.359 it would make a lot of sense to help grow 0:26:32.400 --> 0:26:34.800 your NFL fan base. And some people think you don't 0:26:34.840 --> 0:26:36.920 have to, but there's always you know, people out there 0:26:36.960 --> 0:26:41.160 that can't go to games. Go in between two cities. 0:26:41.720 --> 0:26:44.480 For example, the Jaguars would go meet the Falcons and 0:26:44.560 --> 0:26:47.919 Valdosta have a workout with him on one day, have 0:26:48.080 --> 0:26:51.200 like the supposed scrimmage, although you don't tackle at nighttime 0:26:51.200 --> 0:26:54.359 on one day, make a little festival around it and 0:26:54.400 --> 0:26:57.480 give the money to charity all of it. All the 0:26:57.480 --> 0:27:00.320 money goes to a local charity. And therefore you're gonna 0:27:00.320 --> 0:27:03.040 grow your fan base. People who from Valdosta who can't 0:27:03.040 --> 0:27:05.200 go to Atlanta, can't afford to go to Atlanta, can't 0:27:05.200 --> 0:27:07.280 afford to go to Jacksonville. We'll see an NFL game. 0:27:07.440 --> 0:27:12.600 Miami and Tampa might need you know, whoever, wherever whatever, Right, wait, wait, 0:27:12.600 --> 0:27:15.119 waityway you think you think that they're gonna do something 0:27:15.160 --> 0:27:18.040 like that. That's ridiculous, pete, because the facilities aren't up 0:27:18.040 --> 0:27:21.560 to pArg No, the facilities wouldn't be up to par 0:27:21.680 --> 0:27:23.840 doing something like that. You're gonna stay, You're gonna stick 0:27:23.840 --> 0:27:25.560 with what you do. That I think the best way 0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:27.199 to do it. In the preseas you still continue to 0:27:27.200 --> 0:27:30.080 play your your two preseason games, but you take those 0:27:30.119 --> 0:27:32.560 two preseason games and you have two weeks off from 0:27:32.560 --> 0:27:35.800 the last preseason game to the first regular season game, 0:27:36.359 --> 0:27:40.120 and then the first preseason game is almost unassured. We're 0:27:40.119 --> 0:27:42.600 gonna travel to a team and practice with them, or 0:27:42.640 --> 0:27:45.160 they're gonna come to us, and then we practice each other. 0:27:45.280 --> 0:27:47.320 If you could do the same thing on the second game, 0:27:47.359 --> 0:27:49.679 and then your starters wouldn't have to play the second 0:27:49.680 --> 0:27:52.359 preseason game, which will be your last preseason game, and 0:27:52.359 --> 0:27:54.359 then you would have two weeks to get ready for 0:27:54.359 --> 0:27:56.760 the season opener to me. That's that's the way you 0:27:56.760 --> 0:27:59.240 should do it. It gives you ample time to get 0:27:59.240 --> 0:28:01.840 ready to healthy to like Valdosta State or something and 0:28:01.880 --> 0:28:05.960 do it. I like your idea, but the facilities aren't. 0:28:05.960 --> 0:28:08.679 Aren't the quality at Valdosta State that you're gonna have 0:28:09.040 --> 0:28:12.360 the Falcons in? And Uh Titans used to go meet 0:28:12.400 --> 0:28:15.800 in Dalton, George at a high school facility? Do you 0:28:15.840 --> 0:28:19.000 think do you think the NFL Association is going to 0:28:19.119 --> 0:28:22.919 agree to go play at a high school stadium or 0:28:23.000 --> 0:28:25.639 to go to some college facilities or it's like a 0:28:25.720 --> 0:28:28.720 couple of work days just like they do it. Okay, No, 0:28:28.840 --> 0:28:30.359 because it's an NFL player, I can tell you I 0:28:30.400 --> 0:28:32.720 wouldn't go to a high school field and expect the 0:28:32.760 --> 0:28:36.040 facility to be as quality to NFL standards about the 0:28:36.040 --> 0:28:40.760 field itself. It's safety not to safety issue. Pete. You 0:28:40.760 --> 0:28:42.920 you gotta stick with the NFL facilities. I mean, that's 0:28:42.920 --> 0:28:45.280 all fine and dandy. Let's just let's not get carried 0:28:45.280 --> 0:28:48.440 away by by changing the entire dynamic of preseason by 0:28:48.480 --> 0:28:50.800 wanting to travel to high schools. Didn't it's college. Just 0:28:50.840 --> 0:28:53.360 cut two games out, go to two preseason games and 0:28:53.400 --> 0:28:57.320 still keep it. Uh, somewhat quality football in an NFL stadium, 0:28:57.480 --> 0:29:00.560 cut the ticket prices for preseason and allow those people 0:29:00.600 --> 0:29:02.840 that live in Valdosta or wherever to come to the game. 0:29:03.120 --> 0:29:06.560 Didn't The Jacks went down to the poor guy that 0:29:06.640 --> 0:29:08.640 can't get that. That's why, just said that the tickets 0:29:08.680 --> 0:29:13.160 affordable for the people. Cruel, cruel. 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Do you 0:34:02.920 --> 0:34:06.200 think next week? Tavin Bryan gets it started on this 0:34:06.360 --> 0:34:10.279 defensive discussion here. Everybody's kind of on Taven these days, 0:34:10.280 --> 0:34:12.759 at least online socially. Pete, I know you see some 0:34:12.840 --> 0:34:15.239 of that online everywhere. It's kind of everybody's kind of 0:34:16.200 --> 0:34:18.560 you know, Taven Bryan's the first round pick. Why is 0:34:18.719 --> 0:34:21.600 he playing like a first round pick? Is? The argument? Is? He? 0:34:22.040 --> 0:34:25.200 Is he? How is he playing in this preseason and 0:34:25.239 --> 0:34:27.560 in this camp. We'll start with you. What have you 0:34:27.600 --> 0:34:30.440 seen from Taven Brown? Let me say this, Uh, he 0:34:31.000 --> 0:34:34.880 he didn't pick himself in the first round, so uh, 0:34:35.280 --> 0:34:38.520 I think do you consider that though when you evaluate 0:34:38.640 --> 0:34:40.799 the player? I mean you do that somewhat because it's 0:34:40.840 --> 0:34:43.120 just natural and the team picked himself. It's more you 0:34:43.200 --> 0:34:46.520 evaluate the team's picking Taven Bryant is a first round pick. 0:34:47.120 --> 0:34:49.840 How's he doing? Does he look and play like a 0:34:49.960 --> 0:34:52.520 first round pick? So far? There are moments that Taven 0:34:52.600 --> 0:34:56.400 Bryan has to where he is a physical, dominant presence 0:34:56.840 --> 0:34:59.080 and he looks like a first round pick. Just like 0:34:59.200 --> 0:35:00.759 in the game. He pushed to pocket a couple of 0:35:00.760 --> 0:35:03.680 different times and he actually looked pretty good and rated 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:05.759 pretty well with the coaching staff. And then there are 0:35:05.800 --> 0:35:08.960 other times when he pushed the pocket and the quarterback 0:35:09.160 --> 0:35:12.760 literally steps up right past him and then Tavin didn't 0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:15.440 see it and so the awareness was not there. But 0:35:15.680 --> 0:35:19.480 that's something that you expect a first round caliber talent 0:35:19.640 --> 0:35:21.439 to be able to come off and make the play. 0:35:22.239 --> 0:35:24.880 And so so it's kind of a mixed bag. But 0:35:25.800 --> 0:35:28.319 I will say this, he's gotten better. And I think 0:35:28.440 --> 0:35:30.200 part of the reason that he's gotten better is that 0:35:30.360 --> 0:35:32.680 the coaches at the beginning of camp and last year 0:35:32.800 --> 0:35:35.719 they were alternating him. Remember last year they had him 0:35:35.719 --> 0:35:37.799 in a strong the strong end position, which was backing 0:35:37.840 --> 0:35:41.120 up Clay's Campbell. Well, they learned last year that he 0:35:41.280 --> 0:35:43.239 was better as a three technique just getting off the ball, 0:35:43.280 --> 0:35:44.759 which he does have a very good good off and 0:35:44.840 --> 0:35:46.600 in training camp they started him out kind of the 0:35:46.680 --> 0:35:48.759 same pattern. They had him at a strong side in 0:35:48.800 --> 0:35:51.560 and then the three technique and then now though they 0:35:51.600 --> 0:35:54.120 had been keeping him at just the three technique, and 0:35:54.200 --> 0:35:57.040 I think that has helped him, but he still has 0:35:57.160 --> 0:35:59.600 a ways to go. And that Florida was very similar. 0:36:00.000 --> 0:36:01.720 He was very close to making a lot of place, 0:36:02.400 --> 0:36:05.680 but the situational awareness or the football awareness needs to 0:36:05.800 --> 0:36:08.680 be increased. And now is that a a learning thing 0:36:09.160 --> 0:36:13.120 where you're thinking about alignment, assignment, responsibility and then once 0:36:13.160 --> 0:36:15.080 you get all those things taken care of Pete and 0:36:15.080 --> 0:36:17.040 then everything else falls into place. I don't know the 0:36:17.120 --> 0:36:19.400 answer to that, but only time will tell, you know, 0:36:19.440 --> 0:36:22.520 I'll be honest with you. I was working that night, 0:36:22.719 --> 0:36:25.239 and but you know, being on Twitter and seeing all 0:36:25.280 --> 0:36:28.880 the tweets coming out about him uh and beating him up, 0:36:28.960 --> 0:36:31.200 and then you know, thinking, I thought, Okay, this kid 0:36:31.280 --> 0:36:33.239 was on his back a lot. He was getting dominated. 0:36:33.600 --> 0:36:35.239 And then I went back and rewatched the game and 0:36:35.840 --> 0:36:37.400 I didn't think it was nearly as bad as it 0:36:37.480 --> 0:36:40.160 was portrayed. He had he had too bad place, Pete, 0:36:40.640 --> 0:36:43.120 too bad place. And you make a good point, Jeff, 0:36:43.960 --> 0:36:46.600 he do did push the pocket a couple of times. Now, 0:36:46.719 --> 0:36:49.120 he just got to learn how to disengage and make 0:36:49.200 --> 0:36:52.640 the play. But I expected to see from just judging 0:36:52.719 --> 0:36:55.520 from the tweets that I saw, I expected him to 0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:57.600 spend the after the evening on his back and that 0:36:57.760 --> 0:37:00.440 wasn't the case. No, no, what was and like that. 0:37:00.680 --> 0:37:03.320 But the one thing he's got to learn, for some reason, 0:37:03.440 --> 0:37:06.960 when he tries to disengage off of that power position, 0:37:07.560 --> 0:37:12.520 a lot of times he he gets weak. So in 0:37:12.600 --> 0:37:15.680 other words, when you when you are throwing an offensive lineman, 0:37:16.239 --> 0:37:18.480 you have to be violent and it has to be 0:37:18.560 --> 0:37:22.600 a violent physical move to disengage. It can't be I'm 0:37:22.680 --> 0:37:25.719 letting go and then trying to fall off for sluff off, 0:37:26.960 --> 0:37:28.880 because they re engage you. They re engage you, and 0:37:28.920 --> 0:37:30.839 they don't like they don't let go. That's offensive line 0:37:30.880 --> 0:37:35.279 are taught old. I will say that there were two 0:37:35.400 --> 0:37:38.400 plays in the game that we're not good, and they 0:37:38.480 --> 0:37:41.880 were short yardage plays and in both instances he was 0:37:41.960 --> 0:37:44.880 knocked off the ball a couple of yards each, and 0:37:45.000 --> 0:37:47.239 so that was not good. I mean, because if you're 0:37:47.280 --> 0:37:50.520 going to be big, strong, physical short yardage, you need 0:37:50.560 --> 0:37:53.839 to be the same thing. But but you would agree 0:37:53.840 --> 0:37:56.440 with me not nearly as bad as the portrayal. Oh no, no, no, 0:37:56.560 --> 0:37:58.399 I'd like to do some good things, some bad things. 0:37:58.480 --> 0:38:01.680 That's the preseason and and hopefully he continues to get 0:38:01.760 --> 0:38:03.279 better because he's gonna get a lot of a lot 0:38:03.320 --> 0:38:06.000 of rotational playtime. You know, he's gonna be not gonna 0:38:06.000 --> 0:38:07.600 be a starter, but he's gonna be a guy that 0:38:07.640 --> 0:38:09.960 gets a ton of reps. Right. I mean, let's see, 0:38:13.040 --> 0:38:16.440 Josh Allen made his Jaguars debut first snap, had a 0:38:16.520 --> 0:38:20.120 tackle for loss in the game against Baltimore. How did 0:38:20.200 --> 0:38:22.960 he look on the first in his first Jaguars I 0:38:23.000 --> 0:38:25.920 thought he looked good and I was happy that, uh, 0:38:26.520 --> 0:38:28.960 you know, he got to see the ones. He got 0:38:29.040 --> 0:38:35.360 to see, Uh what's the left tackle from Notre Dame Stanley? Stanley? 0:38:35.960 --> 0:38:38.960 And then he also got to see the starting right 0:38:39.040 --> 0:38:42.520 tackle that played a significant amount of playing time, which 0:38:42.719 --> 0:38:47.839 was the Orlando Brown Jr. Right and that the right 0:38:47.880 --> 0:38:50.719 tackle from Oklahoma. And I think that they played him 0:38:50.719 --> 0:38:52.200 a ton of that ball game because he came to 0:38:52.280 --> 0:38:53.680 camp and he was out of shape. But tell me 0:38:54.239 --> 0:38:57.920 two excellent tackles to face for Josh Allen the very 0:38:58.000 --> 0:38:59.520 first play of the game. I thought it was a 0:38:59.600 --> 0:39:02.400 very nice play. Was it a dominant play? I wouldn't 0:39:02.400 --> 0:39:05.160 say a dominant play, but a nice way to start. Uh. Look, 0:39:05.200 --> 0:39:07.480 it's gonna take some time for him to get comfortable 0:39:07.960 --> 0:39:09.640 putting his hand on the ground. A lot of times 0:39:09.640 --> 0:39:11.200 when he tries to line up on a tight end 0:39:11.440 --> 0:39:14.120 in a three point stance, that is something new for 0:39:14.280 --> 0:39:17.120 him and it is very difficult to learn to do that. 0:39:17.800 --> 0:39:20.640 But I thought the rushes he started to show signs 0:39:21.120 --> 0:39:23.360 in the week of practice against the Ravens and and 0:39:23.480 --> 0:39:26.080 also in the game that he was starting to work 0:39:26.239 --> 0:39:29.440 the edges of the offensive lineman, which a lot of 0:39:29.480 --> 0:39:32.520 times when you're a young pass rusher, you try to 0:39:32.560 --> 0:39:35.080 take an offensive lineman down the middle and you overpower 0:39:35.160 --> 0:39:37.279 the man. That doesn't work in the National Football League 0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.280 because the offensive tackles are too strong and too athletic. 0:39:40.360 --> 0:39:42.799 And so he's starting to work the edges and that's 0:39:42.840 --> 0:39:45.360 a good sign. And he's starting to show his speed 0:39:45.440 --> 0:39:47.759 and his get off, and he's kind of unique, and 0:39:47.800 --> 0:39:51.120 he's fun to watch from from my standpoint because he 0:39:51.200 --> 0:39:53.520 plays the game from a three point and he also 0:39:53.600 --> 0:39:55.479 has the ability to do it from a two point 0:39:55.840 --> 0:39:57.680 because he does have a very good get off. Most 0:39:57.719 --> 0:39:59.960 people want to get into a track stance a three 0:40:00.040 --> 0:40:02.080 point stands to be able to rush the passer. But 0:40:02.200 --> 0:40:04.320 he has a good enough get off an anticipation that 0:40:04.400 --> 0:40:06.200 he can actually do it in a two point. So 0:40:06.239 --> 0:40:08.680 a lot of people at times Pete may see him 0:40:08.680 --> 0:40:10.799 in a game and go always playing linebacker. Now he's 0:40:10.800 --> 0:40:13.560 in a two point stance. Well, no, he's just playing 0:40:13.600 --> 0:40:16.680 defensive end from a two point stands, which you can't do. 0:40:16.840 --> 0:40:18.920 And then look the old three four or four three 0:40:18.960 --> 0:40:21.279 stuff that's out the window in your Nickel sev at 0:40:21.320 --> 0:40:24.320 the time. Anyway, So you know all these teams like 0:40:24.400 --> 0:40:26.640 the Caroline Panthers, we're switching to a three four, Yeah 0:40:26.680 --> 0:40:28.360 you are, but you're not gonna have seven guys on 0:40:28.440 --> 0:40:30.520 your front anymore. It's just not the way you play. 0:40:31.080 --> 0:40:34.120 So this kid's versatility, to me, is is what's important 0:40:34.120 --> 0:40:37.520 to this defense. When they go to Nickel ideal scenario 0:40:37.640 --> 0:40:40.320 and Nickel in the regular season, it will be Klais 0:40:40.520 --> 0:40:45.040 Campbell and Darius inside with him at left end and 0:40:45.080 --> 0:40:47.640 then god way it right end and that's what Yeah, 0:40:47.680 --> 0:40:50.440 that that's right, and then you'll have uh, you'll have 0:40:51.320 --> 0:40:55.080 McCray as the sub He'll be the next guy up 0:40:55.200 --> 0:40:58.320 on the outside edges, and then Tavan Bryan will be 0:40:58.400 --> 0:41:01.120 the next guy up in the middle. Two tackle positions 0:41:01.160 --> 0:41:05.880 for that, Nick Nickel, what we call subsituation. Pretty good group, right, 0:41:06.280 --> 0:41:08.160 that's when you come to the line of scrimmage and 0:41:08.239 --> 0:41:11.040 see that for that's a good pass rushing for pretty 0:41:11.040 --> 0:41:14.080 good I Pete. I said this before that I I 0:41:14.280 --> 0:41:18.479 expect Josh Allen to break the Jaguars rookie sack record, 0:41:18.520 --> 0:41:21.360 which is currently held buying gock Way. I think he 0:41:21.520 --> 0:41:26.160 has that kind of ability and h that kind of tenacity, 0:41:26.320 --> 0:41:28.960 and and I expect him to be able to do that, 0:41:29.040 --> 0:41:30.960 and I think he will. I think he's that good. 0:41:32.440 --> 0:41:35.320 So if if he breaks the rookie sack record and 0:41:35.400 --> 0:41:40.800 Gockway gets what, here we go, Here we go Dannel eleven. 0:41:41.480 --> 0:41:46.840 I mean, if Calais gets twelve and Darius gets six, 0:41:47.280 --> 0:41:49.560 now you're talking about a defensive line that gets you 0:41:49.640 --> 0:41:52.600 near forty. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good, that's pretty good. 0:41:52.760 --> 0:41:54.439 You're gonna pay some of these guys at some point. 0:41:55.360 --> 0:41:58.279 Let's let's hope, let's hope J. P. Pete that they 0:41:58.320 --> 0:42:00.680 can get those numbers that Pete talk about that would 0:42:00.680 --> 0:42:03.879 be is going to be down right now. I thought 0:42:03.960 --> 0:42:05.640 you were gonna like, jump ahead, what do they do 0:42:05.760 --> 0:42:10.479 after that happened next year? They right, you can't worry 0:42:10.480 --> 0:42:12.200 about that now. But if you get forty out of 0:42:12.239 --> 0:42:14.560 him this year, I'll tell you what they'll do. Cartwheels 0:42:14.600 --> 0:42:16.840 over that. Oh buddy, that would that would be amazing. 0:42:16.880 --> 0:42:20.000 And look, I will tell you this. Pete Duck Morons 0:42:20.000 --> 0:42:21.759 talked about it a couple of different times, and he's 0:42:21.760 --> 0:42:24.160 talked about the pass rush ability of Marcel Darius and 0:42:24.239 --> 0:42:26.879 he wants to see more. A couple of years ago 0:42:26.920 --> 0:42:30.600 and we watched Marcel Darius with the Buffalo Bills. Uh man. 0:42:30.760 --> 0:42:34.399 He was tough. He was he was a dominant pass 0:42:34.480 --> 0:42:37.680 rusher himself. And I want to see more of what 0:42:37.840 --> 0:42:40.880 Doug is asking for from the pass rusher standpoint, to 0:42:40.920 --> 0:42:43.399 see him finish his pass rush. A lot of times 0:42:43.520 --> 0:42:46.239 Marcel as a tendency to kind of quit on his 0:42:46.280 --> 0:42:48.160 pass rush. He's got the ability to finish, and I 0:42:48.200 --> 0:42:50.840 want to see him finish because if he finishes with 0:42:51.080 --> 0:42:53.719 power and he gets a good get off j P. 0:42:54.440 --> 0:42:58.480 At Alabama, he was a big strong man. At at Buffalo. 0:42:58.880 --> 0:43:01.359 It was the same thing he looks like a man 0:43:01.719 --> 0:43:05.360 among boys when he gets it cranked. He seems is 0:43:05.400 --> 0:43:07.759 he slimmer than he was last year. It seems like 0:43:07.840 --> 0:43:10.080 he's trimmed a little bit, a little big guy, you 0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:11.600 know what I mean, he looks good, but I mean 0:43:11.640 --> 0:43:13.719 he looks like he's in shape. He looks like he's 0:43:13.719 --> 0:43:16.760 ready to go. The Watching him in practice his stuff 0:43:16.800 --> 0:43:19.440 against the run, he's still just so strong. I mean 0:43:19.600 --> 0:43:21.600 he's I mean, he could have a double team and 0:43:21.640 --> 0:43:24.279 it's and it's like he's he holds the double team off, 0:43:24.680 --> 0:43:26.920 you know, with one hand, and then he's sipping a 0:43:27.000 --> 0:43:30.000 coke and reading the newspaper with the other one. I mean, 0:43:30.080 --> 0:43:32.080 he's he's got that kind of strength. I mean, just 0:43:32.920 --> 0:43:35.959 very uncanny. I mean it's also it's also a money 0:43:36.040 --> 0:43:40.279 year for him, true. I mean, basically he's got a 0:43:40.320 --> 0:43:42.799 one year deal because they got the ten million dollar 0:43:43.160 --> 0:43:45.319 roster bonus that they'd have to pay him next year. 0:43:45.400 --> 0:43:47.520 So this is a money year for him. So I think, 0:43:47.760 --> 0:43:50.680 you know, every sack you get when you're an interior 0:43:50.760 --> 0:43:52.879 rush guy, the money goes up. So I think from 0:43:52.920 --> 0:43:55.719 that standpoint, he should be good rushing the pastor this year. 0:43:55.880 --> 0:43:58.040 You bring up a great point, because if it's a 0:43:58.120 --> 0:44:00.200 money year, when you say every sack means something, then 0:44:00.840 --> 0:44:04.880 every sack could mean a million in future earnings for 0:44:05.000 --> 0:44:07.920 Marcel Price if you think about it. And this is 0:44:07.960 --> 0:44:11.439 the guy who's already had unbelievable amount of money coming 0:44:11.440 --> 0:44:14.000 in his way in his career. 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Jack's Village 0:49:09.760 --> 0:49:31.920 dot com. I really like the practice that we had yesterday, 0:49:32.239 --> 0:49:34.480 and I'm gonna tell you why. It's because you know 0:49:34.520 --> 0:49:37.160 you're gonna be challenged as a as a player. You 0:49:37.239 --> 0:49:40.279 know you're gonna go out there and the conditions. You know, 0:49:40.400 --> 0:49:42.760 after a while, the condition started off pretty good yesterday, 0:49:42.800 --> 0:49:44.000 and then you guys are out there and all of 0:49:44.000 --> 0:49:47.319 a sudden, you know, here comes the heat, here comes 0:49:47.400 --> 0:49:50.800 those things that we have to play in, and you know, 0:49:50.880 --> 0:49:52.920 you look around and you know, hey, there might be 0:49:53.239 --> 0:49:56.040 a poorly throne ball. There might be, you know, just 0:49:56.760 --> 0:49:59.080 a miss over here, or there may be drops, you know, 0:49:59.200 --> 0:50:02.200 and those things that are gonna occur. Those things are 0:50:02.200 --> 0:50:03.640 going to happen and you have to learn how to 0:50:03.680 --> 0:50:08.000 fight through them. It's head coach Doug Marone today discussing 0:50:08.120 --> 0:50:12.719 yesterday's practice. Was it the smoothest offensive day? Let's say 0:50:12.760 --> 0:50:16.359 that Welcome back Jaguar's Happy Hour presented by Jet Home Loans, 0:50:16.440 --> 0:50:20.080 JP Shatdrick, Jeff Lagman, and Pete Prisco down in South 0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:23.319 Florida with US Tony Bosellia is in England were told 0:50:24.600 --> 0:50:28.320 eating trumpets and drinking tea. I'm sure he's eating and 0:50:28.440 --> 0:50:31.560 drinking pretty good something. We do know that, that's for sure. 0:50:32.640 --> 0:50:35.680 That was an interesting conversation with Doug today about yesterday's practice, 0:50:35.680 --> 0:50:38.239 and it seemed a little smoother offensively today, so you 0:50:39.040 --> 0:50:41.440 they learned. It seemed from that that that was the 0:50:41.560 --> 0:50:48.120 idea of yesterday's practice was brutally hot, and what Doug 0:50:48.200 --> 0:50:50.279 was talking about there was, you know, the conditions were 0:50:50.400 --> 0:50:52.800 ripe for where you can have a learning experience because 0:50:53.440 --> 0:50:56.680 it was exceptionally hot. It was difficult to focus, and 0:50:56.760 --> 0:50:58.680 it was a very long practice. I mean, heck, I 0:50:58.800 --> 0:51:02.440 got tired just watching it. But but I mean, look 0:51:02.480 --> 0:51:04.840 at that's the environment that the Jaguars are gonna play in. 0:51:04.920 --> 0:51:08.319 And that's always had kind of a a little bit 0:51:08.360 --> 0:51:12.240 of a mental test with myself with the heat, because 0:51:12.719 --> 0:51:15.680 when you were at Jacksonville Jaguar in the early days, 0:51:15.880 --> 0:51:19.680 you relished the opportunity to show an opponent that you 0:51:19.760 --> 0:51:23.560 were more mentally tough than they were when it came 0:51:23.640 --> 0:51:26.120 to the heat. It's a real thing. Yeah, I mean, 0:51:26.200 --> 0:51:28.239 it was a real deal. I mean, we we took 0:51:28.400 --> 0:51:31.879 pride in the fact that we were mentally tougher than 0:51:31.920 --> 0:51:34.680 anybody in the heat, and I think in the early 0:51:34.760 --> 0:51:36.279 years it showed and it was one of the few 0:51:36.320 --> 0:51:40.000 things we could hang our hat on in early days, Pete, 0:51:40.000 --> 0:51:41.920 as you knew from looking at that roster that we 0:51:42.080 --> 0:51:46.440 add but uh yeah it let me let me re 0:51:46.600 --> 0:51:50.440 emphasize again because in the Jaguars practice yesterday that they 0:51:50.480 --> 0:51:55.279 had in this heat, the starters once again got a 0:51:55.880 --> 0:52:00.239 ton of reps in practice. And again this is all 0:52:00.320 --> 0:52:03.320 part of this philosophy. And that's why I don't know 0:52:03.600 --> 0:52:07.160 how much or if the starters will play in preseason 0:52:07.280 --> 0:52:10.840 Game number two, just because of the sheer number of 0:52:11.000 --> 0:52:15.640 snaps that I'm seeing them take in practice yesterday and 0:52:15.840 --> 0:52:19.640 in practice today. It is mentally tough for them, uh 0:52:19.800 --> 0:52:22.600 as in modern day standards, and good for them. So 0:52:23.040 --> 0:52:25.560 we'll see what happens on Thursday. Though. You know, it's funny. 0:52:25.600 --> 0:52:28.200 I was in Green Bay the other day and it 0:52:28.360 --> 0:52:31.520 was like and they were complaining about the heat, and 0:52:31.560 --> 0:52:34.480 I said, you guys have no idea zero, You have 0:52:34.560 --> 0:52:36.239 no idea what you're talking about when it comes to 0:52:36.360 --> 0:52:40.000 the heat. Um, because that was you know, it was hot, 0:52:40.440 --> 0:52:43.600 but not like the South, you know how the South is. Yeah, 0:52:43.640 --> 0:52:45.320 that's a lot different, you know, And I think it 0:52:45.840 --> 0:52:50.520 begs the other question. Look, if you're the Jaguars and 0:52:51.320 --> 0:52:55.359 Doug Brons got this new philosophy that is, we're gonna 0:52:55.480 --> 0:52:59.640 rest our players in the preseason, play them sparingly, and 0:52:59.719 --> 0:53:03.560 then ready for the regular season, what's the business side 0:53:04.040 --> 0:53:06.960 of the jack pears? Think about that to where you know, 0:53:07.040 --> 0:53:09.880 you had a performance like you did last week in 0:53:10.320 --> 0:53:13.239 in Baltimore and a lot of your stars didn't play 0:53:13.280 --> 0:53:15.560 and a lot of that reason is because of that. 0:53:16.480 --> 0:53:18.759 And so if you come out again this week and 0:53:18.840 --> 0:53:22.520 you don't play starters again, what is that doing for 0:53:22.680 --> 0:53:25.759 the telephones that are sitting in the ticketing office? What 0:53:25.920 --> 0:53:29.520 is that doing for sponsorship and the opportunities that the 0:53:29.600 --> 0:53:34.480 Jaguars have available, right, I mean that that's I agree 0:53:34.520 --> 0:53:38.600 with you. I'd be really concerned about that if I 0:53:38.719 --> 0:53:42.040 were I were the team and the marketing people, because 0:53:42.080 --> 0:53:44.000 you want to see you guys want to Nobody wants 0:53:44.000 --> 0:53:46.880 to pay that money to go see nobody playing. I 0:53:47.000 --> 0:53:48.920 got just reading through the lines. I don't know this 0:53:49.040 --> 0:53:51.000 for a fact, but reading through the lines, didn't you 0:53:51.040 --> 0:53:54.000 get the impression that Folds might not play? I mean 0:53:54.120 --> 0:53:57.319 just listening to him, well, I get thinking about that vibe, 0:53:57.480 --> 0:54:00.360 I get, well, just seeing the snaps is me the 0:54:00.400 --> 0:54:02.360 impression that there's gonna be a lot of guys this 0:54:02.480 --> 0:54:05.839 week that may not play. But I mean, maybe he's 0:54:05.840 --> 0:54:07.840 got the next couple of days to rest him and 0:54:07.880 --> 0:54:10.480 get it ready for a game. But I don't. I 0:54:10.520 --> 0:54:12.080 don't know, Pete, But I mean, i'm I'm I'm not 0:54:12.200 --> 0:54:14.960 just talking about the telephones in the ticketing office when 0:54:15.000 --> 0:54:18.320 it comes to preseason games. I'm talking about the ticket 0:54:18.400 --> 0:54:21.320 office number when it comes to the regular season. You know, 0:54:21.680 --> 0:54:27.520 if if this were an established franchise, that has had 0:54:27.800 --> 0:54:32.279 established winning you know, doing something as drastic or not. 0:54:32.280 --> 0:54:34.120 I wanna say drastic. Could I want to call it drastic, 0:54:34.239 --> 0:54:37.120 But doing something different in the preseason like they've done, 0:54:37.160 --> 0:54:40.080 it would be no big deal because the expectations, well, 0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.919 this team wins, well, this team over the last couple 0:54:42.920 --> 0:54:45.719 of years has been up and down. So but where 0:54:45.760 --> 0:54:49.000 are they at from that standpoint? You know? So? And 0:54:49.560 --> 0:54:52.640 and how are the ticket sales? I had heard they were, 0:54:54.280 --> 0:54:59.919 I don't know, interesting stuff. I mean, that's the last 0:55:00.040 --> 0:55:02.520 there was a big rush to sell tickets because they 0:55:02.560 --> 0:55:05.040 had the you know, the enthusiasm from the year before. 0:55:05.160 --> 0:55:09.120 But um, so you're right, it matter, Jeff. It matters 0:55:09.400 --> 0:55:14.400 for other games, not just the preseason, that's right, But 0:55:14.840 --> 0:55:17.440 in the on the football decision side of things, if 0:55:17.480 --> 0:55:20.120 it's a strictly football decision, that's their decision to not 0:55:20.200 --> 0:55:22.359 put guys out and get them ready for opening days. Well, 0:55:22.360 --> 0:55:24.239 and you and Pete, you know, where does that cross 0:55:24.320 --> 0:55:29.160 the line? You can't you can't have business telling the 0:55:29.239 --> 0:55:32.279 football side of things what to do, because you have 0:55:32.440 --> 0:55:34.520 to do it from the football side of things to 0:55:34.600 --> 0:55:37.239 make the best decision for your football team. 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Shadrick, Jeff Loghuman is in 1:00:16.040 --> 1:00:19.000 for Tony was Ellly tonight and we're glad and better 1:00:19.120 --> 1:00:22.400 for it. And Pete Frisco is down in South Florida 1:00:23.240 --> 1:00:25.920 and we're always better for that too. Welcome into our 1:00:26.000 --> 1:00:28.200 number two glad you what us your Twitter questions coming up. 1:00:28.680 --> 1:00:31.880 You can tweet us at JP Shadrick at logs five six. 1:00:31.960 --> 1:00:35.919 Speaking of speaking of Twitter, Chrisco CBS, Yes, we're gonna 1:00:36.000 --> 1:00:40.680 talk about that Twitter thing. Yeah yeah, kind of crazy 1:00:40.800 --> 1:00:45.320 the video, Yeah yeah right, So what were they Why 1:00:45.360 --> 1:00:50.160 were they attacking the chair? That's a great question. So 1:00:50.320 --> 1:00:53.080 there's a video It was apparently I think, on C J. 1:00:53.280 --> 1:00:57.440 Revis's Instagram and then it was taken from the air 1:00:57.600 --> 1:00:59.480 by some fans I think, on Twitter and put on 1:00:59.560 --> 1:01:03.080 Twitter of some players dancing. It looked like in the 1:01:03.160 --> 1:01:07.520 locker room and attacking a chair and then jumping somewhere 1:01:07.600 --> 1:01:10.720 jumping on a chair, and it wasn't a good look. 1:01:11.600 --> 1:01:16.080 But but who was it supposed to be? Who the chair? Yeah, 1:01:16.160 --> 1:01:21.280 somebody said that somebody did chair. Somebody that used it 1:01:21.360 --> 1:01:25.880 on Twitter said that the chair was Kaughlin. But that's 1:01:26.040 --> 1:01:28.720 somebody's opinion, So it's not like the player put that 1:01:28.840 --> 1:01:31.920 out there. Okay, But why would you attack a chair 1:01:32.000 --> 1:01:35.600 in the locker room and dance around? I get I 1:01:35.720 --> 1:01:39.200 have no idea pete um, but it wasn't It wasn't 1:01:39.200 --> 1:01:42.400 a good look. And then in the background you see 1:01:43.240 --> 1:01:46.640 Cam Robinson standing up on like a chair or a 1:01:46.800 --> 1:01:51.520 sofa and you're going, wait a minute, anything on pup 1:01:51.760 --> 1:01:53.840 not able to practice. But he's like standing up on 1:01:53.920 --> 1:01:57.200 a couch in a in a video. Not a good look. 1:01:57.280 --> 1:01:59.760 I mean, I'm sure that I can tell you this. 1:01:59.840 --> 1:02:01.720 If you were a teammate of mind, you kind of 1:02:01.760 --> 1:02:04.280 look at that and go, wait a minute. Now, if 1:02:04.320 --> 1:02:06.560 you can't practice, you shouldn't be standing on a chair, 1:02:07.080 --> 1:02:10.000 you know, in the locker room. I mean that that's 1:02:10.040 --> 1:02:12.600 a weird thing to happened in the locker room. Next thing, 1:02:12.640 --> 1:02:21.320 you know, they're gonna put an accent there. But but 1:02:21.480 --> 1:02:24.480 the good news, the good news from the video is 1:02:24.560 --> 1:02:26.080 I don't know if the video had anything to do 1:02:26.160 --> 1:02:29.840 with Cam Robinson practicing today, but he practiced today. So 1:02:32.080 --> 1:02:34.480 you know, somebody on the team, somebody in the coaches 1:02:34.480 --> 1:02:37.120 staff saw that and said, hey, Cam, you can do that, 1:02:37.280 --> 1:02:41.560 but you can't practice. If you were, if you were 1:02:41.680 --> 1:02:45.960 Cam's friend on the team, when you go, hey Cam, uh, 1:02:46.280 --> 1:02:49.240 you know the video and you're not practicing, Hey man, 1:02:50.360 --> 1:02:52.920 you gotta practice or you don't stand on the couch 1:02:53.040 --> 1:02:56.160 or the chair, right right. I mean, if I'm whoever 1:02:56.240 --> 1:02:58.040 put that was it, rev Us the safety put it 1:02:58.080 --> 1:03:00.400 out right? If I'm I'm a teammate on the what 1:03:00.520 --> 1:03:02.440 are you doing well? Let Pete, let me let me 1:03:02.480 --> 1:03:03.920 bring this up, because I think you bring up a 1:03:03.960 --> 1:03:07.360 great point because me and j P talked about this 1:03:08.240 --> 1:03:14.280 and that in my opinion, that should be a fineable offense. 1:03:15.160 --> 1:03:18.240 And I'm talking about from the team level. But as 1:03:18.320 --> 1:03:21.680 a player, I would want if I'm a player in 1:03:21.720 --> 1:03:23.800 the locker room, I would want C. J Rees to 1:03:23.840 --> 1:03:26.920 get fine because I don't want somebody tweeting out or 1:03:27.040 --> 1:03:30.360 instagramming out video out of the locker room. Because what 1:03:30.480 --> 1:03:32.880 happens is something's in the background of the player doesn't 1:03:32.920 --> 1:03:35.240 pay attention to it, but yet he tweets it out, 1:03:35.320 --> 1:03:37.919 he puts it on Instagram or whatever, and it puts 1:03:38.200 --> 1:03:44.120 a teammate in a bad light or or some former fashion. Uh, 1:03:44.240 --> 1:03:47.560 that teammate gets called out for something that he didn't 1:03:47.600 --> 1:03:50.120 even know was out there. I mean to me, that's 1:03:50.200 --> 1:03:53.160 dangerous because you know, locker room time well, because the 1:03:53.240 --> 1:03:56.560 players look the players always believe and as a player, 1:03:56.600 --> 1:03:59.200 I always believe this look. The locker room is our place, 1:04:00.000 --> 1:04:02.080 Okay when it's open to the media. It's open to 1:04:02.120 --> 1:04:04.640 the media, and we have to talk to Pete and 1:04:04.760 --> 1:04:07.440 we have to talk to John o'shure. I get that. 1:04:08.040 --> 1:04:12.280 But when it's not open, that's a place of comfort 1:04:12.440 --> 1:04:15.800 and privacy, not for somebody in the locker room to 1:04:15.840 --> 1:04:20.040 be putting out videos. I can tell you that. Will 1:04:20.080 --> 1:04:25.720 you make you that, Pete, we'll get back to. Yeah, well, 1:04:25.840 --> 1:04:32.000 you're very strong about that. You can't you can't be 1:04:32.160 --> 1:04:37.400 putting out video from our house. If I'm a guy 1:04:37.440 --> 1:04:42.200 in that locker room, uh, class Campbell or a Nick 1:04:42.320 --> 1:04:46.720 Foles or somebody. You go to C. J. Reeves and say, look, 1:04:47.520 --> 1:04:49.920 this is our locker room, and you don't have a 1:04:50.080 --> 1:04:54.440 right to put anything out about our locker room unless 1:04:54.440 --> 1:04:58.280 you get our permission and our means all ninety guys 1:04:58.400 --> 1:05:01.920 right now and once you get to the right your season, Jeff, 1:05:02.440 --> 1:05:05.720 I thought that crossed the line. Um And if I 1:05:05.800 --> 1:05:07.680 were a player in that locker room, I would not 1:05:07.760 --> 1:05:11.520 be happy with that, right. No, absolutely not. That's something 1:05:11.600 --> 1:05:13.600 that needs to be policed in the locker room by 1:05:13.640 --> 1:05:16.480 the correct and and and then needs to be reinforced 1:05:16.520 --> 1:05:21.200 by a fine, in my opinion, fined by the team. 1:05:21.280 --> 1:05:23.720 But the players should be angry with him too. Absolutely, 1:05:24.520 --> 1:05:26.960 And if that happened when you were playing. You were 1:05:27.000 --> 1:05:28.880 a Union rep, you would have gone over to the 1:05:28.920 --> 1:05:30.720 guy and said, hey, dude, we can't have this. In 1:05:30.840 --> 1:05:35.200 a minute, yeah, in a minute. We go from this 1:05:35.440 --> 1:05:38.920 topic to UH, Jaguars running back Leonard Ford, who's had 1:05:39.040 --> 1:05:43.360 his past things around here, but so far this offseason, 1:05:43.480 --> 1:05:46.800 he's been a good citizen in Jaguar world. Seems like 1:05:47.800 --> 1:05:50.360 he's been good and the t A. So I wouldn't 1:05:50.400 --> 1:05:53.840 say a great citizen. I know you said good, right, 1:05:54.160 --> 1:05:57.439 that's probably He's done some interviews, he's done some good things. 1:05:57.680 --> 1:05:59.960 You know. It seems like, um, he's he seems to 1:06:00.040 --> 1:06:01.840 be involved on the sideline of the United He had 1:06:01.880 --> 1:06:04.640 the headset on during the game, which that was the 1:06:04.680 --> 1:06:07.320 first Jaguars game since the last game of the season 1:06:07.440 --> 1:06:10.000 last year when he's on the sideline on the bench. 1:06:12.200 --> 1:06:14.160 But pete I I made a comment during the game 1:06:14.200 --> 1:06:18.600 broadcast when it was pointed out by our sideline guy, 1:06:18.680 --> 1:06:21.920 Rick Blue that Leonard Fournette is engaged on the sideline. 1:06:21.960 --> 1:06:24.120 He's wearing a headset, he's talking to his teammates that 1:06:24.160 --> 1:06:28.400 are playing, and UH and the coach and I'm going, wow, 1:06:29.160 --> 1:06:32.400 think about the last time that we saw Leonard Fournett 1:06:32.440 --> 1:06:37.000 on the sideline and he was not dressed and sitting 1:06:37.240 --> 1:06:40.240 on the bench with a dress t J Yelden and 1:06:42.400 --> 1:06:44.880 the body language said, I could care less about being here, 1:06:44.920 --> 1:06:47.680 I could care less about my football team and let's 1:06:47.760 --> 1:06:49.880 just go home. So I mean, boy, I mean, you 1:06:49.920 --> 1:06:53.640 talk about two completely different looks for Leonard Fournette. So 1:06:54.080 --> 1:06:57.880 but what we saw in Baltimore, I mean you got 1:06:58.000 --> 1:06:59.800 to look at it as a positive, correct, I mean 1:07:00.720 --> 1:07:02.800 the other way you could look absolutely, I think this 1:07:02.920 --> 1:07:05.840 is a great stuff. You know, you too, and and 1:07:06.160 --> 1:07:08.919 and I think aside, I'm with you, Jeff. He should 1:07:08.920 --> 1:07:10.160 have been there for all the O T S. But 1:07:10.520 --> 1:07:12.280 you know, you don't know what's going on in the 1:07:12.360 --> 1:07:16.040 guy's personal life. Some stuff might happen flag, you know, 1:07:16.200 --> 1:07:18.760 but so maybe miss a couple. But he should have 1:07:18.840 --> 1:07:21.200 been there after everything he went through last year and 1:07:21.320 --> 1:07:23.080 they had to talk with him, he probably should have 1:07:23.080 --> 1:07:25.160 been there. But I think everything he's shown so far 1:07:26.000 --> 1:07:29.200 this summer is good in the right direction, but good. 1:07:29.240 --> 1:07:31.600 And maybe he needed the time off from the O 1:07:31.760 --> 1:07:33.320 T A S to get rid of the bad people, 1:07:33.400 --> 1:07:35.760 which he talked about in an article that was just 1:07:35.840 --> 1:07:37.520 put out about how he got rid of the bad 1:07:37.560 --> 1:07:41.800 people in his life and everything that I've seen out 1:07:41.840 --> 1:07:45.240 of him so far in training camp Pete as far 1:07:45.360 --> 1:07:52.360 as availability, um uh, effort during practice, effort. When I'm 1:07:52.400 --> 1:07:54.240 when I say effort during practice, I'm talking when the 1:07:54.280 --> 1:07:57.160 whistle blows and then when the whistle blows again, or 1:07:57.200 --> 1:07:58.880 some when the ball snapped and whistle blows. He's been 1:07:58.920 --> 1:08:01.120 during a outstanding I mean, there certain times I'd like 1:08:01.120 --> 1:08:03.000 to see him run back to the huddle and all 1:08:03.040 --> 1:08:06.120 those kind of things. But look, I think in his 1:08:06.240 --> 1:08:10.760 catching ability he's been. He's has been really good in 1:08:10.880 --> 1:08:13.760 camp so far. And he is a guy that I 1:08:13.840 --> 1:08:16.880 would not want to see play in the preseason whatsoever. 1:08:17.320 --> 1:08:20.160 Because I'm seeing the other running backs Pete and I 1:08:20.200 --> 1:08:23.400 don't see anything close to Leonard four Nette right now. No, 1:08:23.640 --> 1:08:25.920 I wouldn't play him at all in the preseason none, 1:08:26.880 --> 1:08:28.880 you know, And if I have a lead runner, I'm 1:08:28.920 --> 1:08:31.080 not playing him in the preseason no matter where you are. 1:08:31.320 --> 1:08:34.320 I'm just not. I don't. I don't think it's worth it. Um, 1:08:34.560 --> 1:08:36.840 he doesn't need that. I wouldn't play him at all, 1:08:36.880 --> 1:08:39.479 and just find out what you have behind them. That's 1:08:39.520 --> 1:08:41.519 what you use a preseason for. Figure out if any 1:08:41.520 --> 1:08:43.360 of those guys can be the number two back. Look 1:08:43.439 --> 1:08:45.559 the rookie ran hard a couple of times the other day. 1:08:45.720 --> 1:08:49.200 You look, he did some nice things. Quil Armstead, Yes, yes, yeah. 1:08:49.320 --> 1:08:53.320 He ended up in the concussion protocol pete And during 1:08:53.360 --> 1:08:56.439 the game watching the film, he took a shot. He literally, 1:08:57.200 --> 1:08:59.559 I mean very very physical style of running by the way, 1:08:59.600 --> 1:09:02.439 which was impressive. And he's going through the line of 1:09:02.479 --> 1:09:04.479 scrimmage and this is the last play that I saw 1:09:04.680 --> 1:09:06.880 that he had on film, and he gets kind of 1:09:06.960 --> 1:09:10.200 wrapped up from the side behind and then here comes 1:09:10.520 --> 1:09:12.640 the safety and I want to say his number was 1:09:12.720 --> 1:09:15.720 twenty three, and he was the guy that was um 1:09:16.760 --> 1:09:21.160 a little a little bit of a uh jerk in 1:09:21.320 --> 1:09:23.880 practice because he was hitting guys when they didn't really 1:09:23.920 --> 1:09:26.840 need to be hit. Well, it's game time, so you 1:09:26.920 --> 1:09:30.240 can hit. Okay, it's okay. Twenty three comes in and 1:09:30.600 --> 1:09:35.760 the crown of his helmet hits Roquil Armstead literally right 1:09:35.800 --> 1:09:38.519 in the chin, and you could but there was nowhere 1:09:38.640 --> 1:09:41.799 for Armstead's body to go because he had a defender 1:09:41.920 --> 1:09:44.400 draped on his back, and so you just saw the 1:09:44.479 --> 1:09:48.240 whole head to shake and you went that was a 1:09:48.360 --> 1:09:51.120 knockout punch right there. And and I didn't see what 1:09:51.240 --> 1:09:53.679 happened after that because it's film and then the play ends. 1:09:54.040 --> 1:09:55.400 When the play is over, you don't get to see 1:09:55.479 --> 1:09:56.920 him walk off the field or anything. And I didn't 1:09:56.960 --> 1:10:00.160 notice it during the game. So but he took a shot, now, 1:10:00.640 --> 1:10:03.240 he took it. He took a really good shot. Who 1:10:03.960 --> 1:10:06.360 you said it was from Tony Jefferson did, Yeah, I 1:10:06.400 --> 1:10:13.080 think that's who it was. It was three three oh, 1:10:13.200 --> 1:10:17.120 But he stroked him. Now, I mean, if you're if 1:10:17.160 --> 1:10:19.880 you're a teammate of Tony Jefferson, you're high five and 1:10:19.960 --> 1:10:22.280 him when he's coming off field and that one. Now, yeah, 1:10:22.720 --> 1:10:24.720 he's a good player. Yeah, he's a good player. He's 1:10:24.960 --> 1:10:31.639 he's uh he likes to talk a lot. Yeah, yeah, chippy. 1:10:31.800 --> 1:10:33.400 So you mentioned the rest of the running backs here, 1:10:33.439 --> 1:10:36.360 Alfred Blue, Thomas Rawls is back in the practice field, 1:10:36.439 --> 1:10:39.880 DeVante Mays is out there, secondary player from Utah State. 1:10:40.479 --> 1:10:42.320 What do you like about those guys? You said they 1:10:42.360 --> 1:10:46.000 don't they don't stand up to standard. Look, look, Armstead, 1:10:46.160 --> 1:10:48.400 I like him because he's got a physical style of 1:10:48.479 --> 1:10:53.759 running the football and uh, he's very efficient with his feet. 1:10:53.760 --> 1:10:56.559 He gets north and South. I don't like his catching 1:10:56.600 --> 1:10:59.559 ability now in camp so far, he when he's been 1:10:59.600 --> 1:11:01.400 out there, and obviously he's not practicing right now, but 1:11:01.479 --> 1:11:03.320 when he's been out there, he's shown the ability to 1:11:03.439 --> 1:11:06.519 catch the ball. But he's had like two drops was all, 1:11:06.680 --> 1:11:08.560 which is kind of surprising because when you turned on 1:11:08.640 --> 1:11:11.599 his college tape it wasn't very good. I'm I'm talking 1:11:11.640 --> 1:11:15.280 about just his catching ability, So I hope that this 1:11:15.479 --> 1:11:17.080 is something that he can just get better at and 1:11:17.160 --> 1:11:19.800 improve that. But I mean, once you get past him, 1:11:20.080 --> 1:11:23.280 Alfred Blue is kind of a kind of a I 1:11:23.320 --> 1:11:25.240 don't want to say slow, but he's kind of a 1:11:25.360 --> 1:11:28.120 long strider. So he kind of gives you the gives you. 1:11:28.479 --> 1:11:30.640 He gives you the impression that he's slow, but he's not. 1:11:30.800 --> 1:11:33.680 He's a glider, he's not. He's not sudden, but he's 1:11:33.720 --> 1:11:36.720 a big body. I think he's an okay backup and 1:11:36.720 --> 1:11:39.280 he's a guy that you can trust because he's put 1:11:39.400 --> 1:11:42.840 some time in with Houston Texans. But besides those three guys, 1:11:42.880 --> 1:11:46.439 I mean, okay, I mean Thomas Rawls got a pep 1:11:46.479 --> 1:11:51.200 and his step a great special teams effort guy. Uh 1:11:51.439 --> 1:11:54.120 coming back from what appeared to be an injured hamstring. 1:11:54.160 --> 1:11:55.920 I remember watching him when he when he appeared to 1:11:56.000 --> 1:11:58.920 pull his hamstring. So far he's looked good since he's 1:11:58.960 --> 1:12:02.320 been back. Um. But but I mean, okay, I mean 1:12:02.760 --> 1:12:07.040 they might they might address that position after the cuts. Maybe, yeah, 1:12:07.280 --> 1:12:09.320 they might, they might address that when you look at 1:12:09.360 --> 1:12:11.680 the cuts that are coming. You know, some of these 1:12:11.720 --> 1:12:14.680 teams have these young backs that they found, and you 1:12:14.800 --> 1:12:17.240 might find the guy off the cuts that it could 1:12:17.320 --> 1:12:21.280 end up being on that roster. You could. I think 1:12:21.320 --> 1:12:24.320 you're you're not gonna be. I think you're gonna be 1:12:24.360 --> 1:12:27.120 like a three running back roster. I don't see them 1:12:27.320 --> 1:12:30.080 keeping more than three. Well, you would keep were you 1:12:30.120 --> 1:12:32.760 figure gonna keep Fornet in Armstead for sure, So for 1:12:32.920 --> 1:12:36.800 net Armstead Alfred Blue, that's my expectation. But if you 1:12:36.880 --> 1:12:40.080 found somebody other than Blue, you might get rid of 1:12:40.120 --> 1:12:42.200 Blue and bring that guy in well. And and if 1:12:42.720 --> 1:12:46.080 if you keep another guy, it's got to be somebody 1:12:46.160 --> 1:12:49.640 that's gonna be really good on special teams. And right now, 1:12:50.000 --> 1:12:53.120 the guy that seems to be the committed the most 1:12:53.200 --> 1:12:55.680 of special teams is Thomas Rawls. I mean he gets it. 1:12:55.760 --> 1:12:57.519 I mean usually the guys that are in the league 1:12:57.520 --> 1:13:00.400 for a little while that are bubble type positional players. 1:13:00.920 --> 1:13:03.679 They figured it out. Rowls is in his fourth year, 1:13:03.760 --> 1:13:05.720 he's been through this, He's figured it out. I mean, look, 1:13:05.760 --> 1:13:08.760 I mean, here's the reality. All these guys come from 1:13:08.840 --> 1:13:13.519 college and we're stars wherever they were at right to 1:13:14.320 --> 1:13:17.280 I mean, to some extent made different levels of stars obviously, 1:13:18.200 --> 1:13:20.639 But when you come into the National Football League, if 1:13:20.680 --> 1:13:22.479 you're not the first or the second team on the 1:13:22.560 --> 1:13:25.879 depth chart, guess what your Your status on the rosters 1:13:25.960 --> 1:13:28.639 determined by whether or not you can play special teams. 1:13:29.360 --> 1:13:32.080 So you get to the third or fourth running back JP, 1:13:33.280 --> 1:13:36.360 can you play special teams? That's the first question. As 1:13:36.400 --> 1:13:38.840 a safety, the third safety has got to be a 1:13:38.960 --> 1:13:41.759 quality starter if he has to take over for injury. 1:13:42.240 --> 1:13:45.240 But the fourth and and maybe fifth safety, if you 1:13:45.360 --> 1:13:51.800 keep five, guess what can you play special teams? Receivers 1:13:51.840 --> 1:13:53.760 the same thing. Are you gonna keep five and six? Well, 1:13:53.800 --> 1:13:56.479 five and six better be able to play special teams? 1:13:57.040 --> 1:13:58.920 And I think that's one of the things that is 1:13:59.360 --> 1:14:02.360 could passably end up hurting. Uh. The guy that I 1:14:02.439 --> 1:14:07.400 was so excited about, Pete Tyree Brady, because in the ballgame, 1:14:07.520 --> 1:14:11.000 Tyree Brady didn't show a willingness to play special team. 1:14:11.040 --> 1:14:13.400 But this is number nineteen, the wide receiver. Yes, rookie 1:14:13.479 --> 1:14:17.839 from Marshall. But Tray McBride ready to go on special 1:14:17.920 --> 1:14:21.519 teams now, fourth year player from William and Mary. Well, Yes, 1:14:21.840 --> 1:14:25.920 when you watched him on special teams, Tray McBride was 1:14:26.040 --> 1:14:29.599 ready to go now on special team. So you talk about, 1:14:29.760 --> 1:14:32.120 you know, the excitement of where you put guys kind 1:14:32.160 --> 1:14:34.519 of in the pecking order, at least how I do 1:14:34.640 --> 1:14:36.760 in my mind, Well that changes once you get to 1:14:36.760 --> 1:14:39.479 see live special teams and guys start. Now you gotta 1:14:39.520 --> 1:14:42.080 re rank them in trade. Mc bride right now has 1:14:42.400 --> 1:14:44.600 has gone up a couple of notches. Pete ready to 1:14:44.640 --> 1:14:47.760 cut the team tonight. I think Logs is ready. I'm 1:14:47.760 --> 1:14:51.000 always ready to cut the team. You know funny because 1:14:51.000 --> 1:14:53.760 I stand at practices JP for every team and I 1:14:53.960 --> 1:14:56.920 watch these guys. There are twenty of them right now 1:14:57.000 --> 1:14:58.880 who know they're not making the team. They know they 1:14:58.920 --> 1:15:03.640 have no shot now they don't No, they don't know. No, 1:15:03.760 --> 1:15:05.840 they don't know, Pete, they really don't. I mean, there's 1:15:05.840 --> 1:15:07.639 a couple of guys that know that they're not making 1:15:07.760 --> 1:15:10.640 this team, but the majority of the guys that are 1:15:10.760 --> 1:15:13.240 here that are not going to make the team think 1:15:13.520 --> 1:15:18.000 that they should make a team. Because if you didn't 1:15:18.000 --> 1:15:21.800 have that belief, would you be here. But you know 1:15:22.080 --> 1:15:24.320 you're there, and once you get there, you realize you 1:15:24.400 --> 1:15:28.560 don't belong there, that that's a boy. You're assuming that 1:15:28.680 --> 1:15:33.920 there's a lot of ability to self evaluate there. Come on, pete, pete, 1:15:34.000 --> 1:15:38.559 come on, three years old, twenty four years old? Were 1:15:38.600 --> 1:15:41.960 you realistic about what you were? No? But if I 1:15:42.000 --> 1:15:47.559 looked around, you're not realistic about what you are right now. Huh, 1:15:48.840 --> 1:15:51.560 you're not realistic about what you are right now? No. 1:15:51.800 --> 1:15:53.640 I mean I'm stubborn, but I know I would have 1:15:53.680 --> 1:15:58.439 admitted it. No, hell no, let's come back. We'll get 1:15:58.479 --> 1:16:01.320 into the quarterback room when we return. The jagson belong 1:16:01.360 --> 1:16:04.519 to new mobile app and secure digital ticketing. 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Okay, 1:20:21.680 --> 1:20:24.560 that's a little far, but that's okay whatever. He's my 1:20:24.680 --> 1:20:27.240 guy man, because our guy man. He's a great he's 1:20:27.360 --> 1:20:30.080 he's a great guy, one of my boys. Man. How 1:20:30.120 --> 1:20:33.760 many years we've been working together, Joe? Long time? Long time? 1:20:33.920 --> 1:20:36.360 We hope we worked together for quite a bit more time. 1:20:36.360 --> 1:20:41.599 A long time, that's right. So to Portonado, we make 1:20:41.640 --> 1:20:46.200 it cut. Sixty one years young today and he's responsible 1:20:46.320 --> 1:20:48.240 for all the sounds that you hear. Everything that you 1:20:48.360 --> 1:20:51.880 hear is uh, it's through something he's pushed or pulled 1:20:51.960 --> 1:20:53.800 up on the board or whatever it is. That's that's 1:20:53.840 --> 1:20:56.280 Joe fortune man. He makes it happy. That is right, 1:20:56.520 --> 1:21:00.759 So happy birthday. He makes he makes me look good. 1:21:01.280 --> 1:21:05.360 And all the the recorded stuff sound good, not look good. 1:21:05.840 --> 1:21:10.479 Well it's radio. Same thing, no, sound literally not the 1:21:10.600 --> 1:21:13.080 same thing. It is different. And the reason I say 1:21:13.160 --> 1:21:18.840 that is he is a masterful editor. Sound. I need 1:21:19.600 --> 1:21:22.519 editing every once in a while. I'm not like you, 1:21:22.680 --> 1:21:24.920 j P. I'm not like I'm not gonna take take 1:21:24.960 --> 1:21:31.360 pony from it from Pete knows all about that. Yez, 1:21:32.200 --> 1:21:34.320 you can. He can make you look good on radio. 1:21:34.400 --> 1:21:36.320 Sound good at radio? Is not making look good on TV? 1:21:36.439 --> 1:21:41.400 Thos high definition, Pete, What are you trying to say, 1:21:41.479 --> 1:21:49.320 Pete got a face for radio? Is that I'll take it. Hey, look, 1:21:49.400 --> 1:21:52.760 I'm still on TV right yeah, right now, and you're 1:21:52.800 --> 1:21:57.920 on the best part TV. Now. Is that JP does 1:21:58.000 --> 1:22:01.559 all my my pre television makeup. No, that is not accurate, 1:22:01.560 --> 1:22:04.880 because JP is so talented at makeup. Jack. I sit 1:22:04.920 --> 1:22:07.240 down in front of JP and he does my makeup 1:22:07.280 --> 1:22:10.439 for TV. That's inaccurate. But I do need a lot myself. 1:22:10.479 --> 1:22:12.880 I mean, now you do a great job with you 1:22:12.960 --> 1:22:15.479 need to fix that gray here and your beard for 1:22:15.560 --> 1:22:19.559 a fact, So happy birthday, Joe. That started our conversation here, 1:22:20.120 --> 1:22:22.640 Sie you believe that. No, Hey, Joe looks good for 1:22:22.720 --> 1:22:24.400 sixty one. I'm gonna give a lot of credit for that. 1:22:25.120 --> 1:22:27.439 Now he's like lost some weight lately. You know he's 1:22:29.000 --> 1:22:31.960 I like it. Yeah, you're gonna have about thirty more 1:22:32.040 --> 1:22:36.920 years because you know how it's Italian guys. We left forever. Hey, 1:22:37.000 --> 1:22:40.080 let's let's move to the quarterback room. We've heard from 1:22:40.160 --> 1:22:42.479 Nick Foles earlier in the program here, and you get 1:22:42.560 --> 1:22:46.479 the feeling that he might not play Thursday night. Um, 1:22:47.280 --> 1:22:49.840 the other night it was Gardnerman shoe through for what 1:22:50.000 --> 1:22:53.800 forty three yards in the game, Tanner Lee the first 1:22:53.920 --> 1:22:56.360 drive was sacked twice and then threw a pick six 1:22:57.320 --> 1:23:00.240 and Alex Magoo came in. It wasn't so good, wasn't 1:23:00.280 --> 1:23:02.520 as good. It wasn't great either. He threw an interception 1:23:02.600 --> 1:23:06.080 as well. Um, they're gonna get reps obviously, Pete, you 1:23:06.160 --> 1:23:09.200 know where is this? I mean, men, she was their guy. 1:23:09.320 --> 1:23:11.840 I think right now as a backup, it feels like well, 1:23:11.880 --> 1:23:13.760 I mean, he can't evaluate him off of that thing 1:23:13.920 --> 1:23:16.479 the other night. I mean, my gosh, they played he 1:23:16.560 --> 1:23:19.439 played the first team defense. He had a bad offensive 1:23:19.479 --> 1:23:22.040 line in front of him, but his arm didn't look 1:23:22.160 --> 1:23:25.599 very good the other night. Now, you know from watching 1:23:25.680 --> 1:23:28.160 him in practice when I was there and then hearing 1:23:28.240 --> 1:23:30.960 things about him that was, Yeah, he doesn't have a 1:23:30.960 --> 1:23:33.519 great art, but that was worse than normal I thought, 1:23:33.760 --> 1:23:36.840 and and so that's a concern. But it's too hard 1:23:36.880 --> 1:23:40.120 to evaluate him based on what we saw last last Thursday. 1:23:40.240 --> 1:23:42.280 No way. Well, and he's a rookie. It's the first 1:23:43.000 --> 1:23:45.439 action that he's ever had in a preseason game. So 1:23:46.600 --> 1:23:49.760 I mean, look, you evaluate where the Broncos were at 1:23:49.840 --> 1:23:52.120 with Drew lock and his first preseason game, and it 1:23:52.240 --> 1:23:56.519 came away how that game totally under impressed and so um, 1:23:57.040 --> 1:23:59.439 look at you give Minshew a pass. That's the first 1:23:59.520 --> 1:24:04.760 game ever. But you also evaluate certain things within that performance. 1:24:04.960 --> 1:24:08.160 You don't evaluate the overall and come to a final conclusion. 1:24:08.640 --> 1:24:11.000 Some of the things you evaluate. He got hit in 1:24:11.040 --> 1:24:14.280 the mouth after he dropped the ball and then picked 1:24:14.320 --> 1:24:19.320 it up and got stroked, I mean stroked. He comes 1:24:19.400 --> 1:24:22.840 back a couple of plays later, he's got a unblocked 1:24:22.920 --> 1:24:26.960 defender bearing down on him. He stands in there and 1:24:27.080 --> 1:24:30.680 he delivers a nice throw. Positive. That's a positive thing. 1:24:30.840 --> 1:24:33.679 That's nice to see. Okay, So he's got a little 1:24:33.800 --> 1:24:36.760 toughness about him. You like that. The other thing you 1:24:36.880 --> 1:24:40.160 evaluate a couple out routes didn't seem to have the 1:24:40.320 --> 1:24:45.479 arm strength. Now is that arm strength or is that footwork? Well, 1:24:45.640 --> 1:24:48.040 we go back and you watch the film. You could 1:24:48.040 --> 1:24:49.960 have seen that maybe the footwork could have been a 1:24:50.040 --> 1:24:51.960 little bit better, a little bit cleaner. So is it 1:24:52.200 --> 1:24:55.639 arm or is it feet? I don't know the answer 1:24:55.720 --> 1:24:58.000 that that for sure, But if it continues to show, 1:24:58.560 --> 1:25:01.360 it doesn't matter whether it's the armor the feet, because 1:25:01.400 --> 1:25:05.040 the end result is not good enough. So I want 1:25:05.080 --> 1:25:06.640 to see more out of him. I do know this, 1:25:08.400 --> 1:25:12.120 And I think feet were a problem. And and so 1:25:13.360 --> 1:25:16.200 when you get a little jumpy and you get pressured 1:25:16.320 --> 1:25:18.280 up the middle and you get hit a bunch your 1:25:18.320 --> 1:25:22.040 feet kind of you got bad habits. And I think 1:25:22.120 --> 1:25:23.640 that's what it was. That's why I think it's so 1:25:23.720 --> 1:25:25.960 hard to evaluate him. Doesn't mean he's always going to 1:25:26.040 --> 1:25:28.719 do that, but you mentioned it jet first start line. 1:25:29.080 --> 1:25:32.200 The whole deal. Sometimes those habits get away from you. 1:25:32.320 --> 1:25:34.439 So I want to see how he does kind of 1:25:34.479 --> 1:25:38.080 going forward, and I play him more this week with 1:25:38.240 --> 1:25:40.960 the with the guys, the good players who do play, 1:25:41.120 --> 1:25:44.639 that's what I would do. Well, you did that last week, 1:25:45.280 --> 1:25:48.519 you continue to do it again. So if but who 1:25:48.600 --> 1:25:51.439 played nobody played well, I mean, if Doug Maron chooses 1:25:51.520 --> 1:25:55.000 to go the same route this week, then you're gonna 1:25:55.120 --> 1:25:59.320 have a second team offense against a number one Philadelphia 1:25:59.320 --> 1:26:01.920 Eagles defense, which, by the way, Jim Schwartz likes to 1:26:01.960 --> 1:26:07.479 bring a lot of pressure. Hello, Hello, So it's gonna 1:26:07.520 --> 1:26:10.839 be ah, that will be a challenge for the backups 1:26:10.880 --> 1:26:13.960 of the Jaguars and Garniment she's gotta be able to 1:26:14.000 --> 1:26:17.240 handle it. And you hope that you have a little 1:26:17.240 --> 1:26:19.960 bit more health going into the game because you had 1:26:20.000 --> 1:26:23.360 what was that eighteen guys that were scratched. There's eighteen 1:26:23.439 --> 1:26:27.360 or sixteen. It's eighteen because the decision and then it 1:26:27.479 --> 1:26:30.519 was like fourteen others due to but enough changing because 1:26:31.439 --> 1:26:38.439 play and there were sixteen and fourteen. Okay, so let's 1:26:38.439 --> 1:26:43.080 say you still have sixteen on coaches decision ballpark. Well, 1:26:43.160 --> 1:26:47.000 you hope that that fourteen number drops a little bit, 1:26:47.640 --> 1:26:50.840 but right now the way it's looking with with some 1:26:51.000 --> 1:26:53.800 of the players that are out of practice, Uh, it's 1:26:53.840 --> 1:26:56.479 not it's gonna be significant, but I don't know if 1:26:56.520 --> 1:26:58.519 it'll be fourteen, but it's still gonna be pretty good. 1:26:59.600 --> 1:27:02.600 What do you think of his arm, Jeff? Al Right? 1:27:02.640 --> 1:27:03.960 I mean, like I said, Pete, I mean the end 1:27:04.000 --> 1:27:06.960 result was that the arm the ball didn't get there 1:27:07.600 --> 1:27:12.320 fast enough or on target enough or with enough velocity velocity, 1:27:12.560 --> 1:27:14.920 So is that are like I said, is that armor? 1:27:14.960 --> 1:27:17.479 Is that feat Well, I have a tendency to think 1:27:17.560 --> 1:27:21.280 that it was arm strength. But if a player has 1:27:21.360 --> 1:27:24.080 good for work and an anticipation, he can be a 1:27:24.280 --> 1:27:26.920 very good quarterback in the National Football League if they 1:27:27.000 --> 1:27:30.320 have the mind to anticipate the thrones and the positive 1:27:30.400 --> 1:27:32.120 thing that I'm hearing and I talked talked to a 1:27:32.200 --> 1:27:34.719 couple of personnel guys while we were in Baltimore. Pete, 1:27:35.640 --> 1:27:40.960 he is Gardner Minshew, the highest scoring quarterback that they've 1:27:41.000 --> 1:27:44.280 ever seen on the intelligence tests that they give it 1:27:44.360 --> 1:27:50.160 the combine. That's a good song. Yeah, I mean he's 1:27:50.400 --> 1:27:53.360 he's a smart kid. If you watch him play at 1:27:53.760 --> 1:27:55.400 Washington State, I mean he knew where to go with 1:27:55.479 --> 1:27:57.320 the football all the time he's and it's not like 1:27:57.520 --> 1:27:59.479 it's not like he was dinking and duncan now. I mean, 1:27:59.560 --> 1:28:02.360 he threw for more yards at the FBS level per 1:28:02.479 --> 1:28:07.640 game than anybody in the nation last year, and that 1:28:07.840 --> 1:28:11.679 offense is complicated at times. Give him, give him time, 1:28:11.760 --> 1:28:13.880 and let's give him another chance. And you know, he's 1:28:13.920 --> 1:28:16.519 a young player, you know he's could that have been 1:28:16.520 --> 1:28:18.920 a little camp fatigue too, I mean, two weeks into camp, 1:28:19.600 --> 1:28:21.479 every day you're throwing a bunch, you know, I mean 1:28:21.520 --> 1:28:22.760 it could have been a lot of things. Could have 1:28:22.840 --> 1:28:26.400 been first game jitters, could have been you know, you 1:28:26.600 --> 1:28:30.080 name it. You know. So, like I said, it's one game. 1:28:30.240 --> 1:28:33.760 Let's let's not overreact and come to final conclusions on 1:28:33.920 --> 1:28:37.400 anything about this team or individual players until we see more. 1:28:38.400 --> 1:28:41.160 And and it's always unfair to the quarterback in that situation. 1:28:41.600 --> 1:28:45.160 It's hard, you can't really cannot evaluate him. But Jeff, 1:28:45.520 --> 1:28:48.040 they didn't get the midfeet. They got the midfield once. Yeah, 1:28:48.040 --> 1:28:50.200 they got to the forty nine of the Ravens one 1:28:50.280 --> 1:28:52.160 play and then got moved back to the fifty the 1:28:52.240 --> 1:28:54.000 next That's correct. That's as deep as they got. The 1:28:54.080 --> 1:28:56.400 punter had I think like three hundred and sixty yards 1:28:56.479 --> 1:28:59.120 punting Pete. The offense had a hundred and twelve yards 1:28:59.160 --> 1:29:02.640 of total offense net, and I think they had a 1:29:02.760 --> 1:29:05.760 hundred nine yards and penalties. You gotta figure they're gonna 1:29:05.760 --> 1:29:07.760 have at least one accident play where you get at 1:29:07.840 --> 1:29:12.640 least their territory didn't happen. That was that was a 1:29:12.720 --> 1:29:16.280 tough night. Pete didn't happen. Let's come back. We'll get 1:29:16.360 --> 1:29:20.960 some Twitter questions. They're rolling in on the Twitter tonight. 1:29:21.240 --> 1:29:23.240 All right, that's not how you say it, but I 1:29:23.320 --> 1:29:25.920 just said it right way, rolling in on Twitter. Um, 1:29:26.040 --> 1:29:28.479 I said the Twitter rolling in on Twitter, I think 1:29:28.560 --> 1:29:30.240 is active. Yeah, I was trying to help you out. 1:29:30.320 --> 1:29:33.280 Thanks man, appreciate that. We'll get to those coming up. 1:29:33.320 --> 1:29:35.920 We'll go around the league as well, including a Dallas 1:29:36.040 --> 1:29:40.160 quarterback that wants more money Arena. We're gonna go to 1:29:40.240 --> 1:29:44.360 that nut job and with the Raiders him too. Antonio 1:29:44.479 --> 1:29:46.200 Brown has been in the news. You might have heard 1:29:46.880 --> 1:29:50.080 second hour of Jaguars Happy Hour rolling along on the 1:29:50.160 --> 1:30:00.599 Jaguars Digital Network. 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Jaguar's Happy Our J P. Shadrick, 1:33:13.400 --> 1:33:16.960 Jeff Loguman, Tone Tony Boselli's out almost said he was here. 1:33:17.000 --> 1:33:19.599 He's not here. Pete Presco is here though he's down 1:33:19.600 --> 1:33:21.760 in South Florida. Glad you're with us tonight. We've gone 1:33:21.800 --> 1:33:27.320 through the show and you've messed that up. Yeah, you know, 1:33:27.520 --> 1:33:31.000 come on, JP, I'm right here beside your brother. I'm 1:33:31.000 --> 1:33:33.080 glad you are. Thank you. I don't look like no, 1:33:33.760 --> 1:33:37.280 thank God, I appreciate that. Let's get to your Twitter 1:33:37.400 --> 1:33:40.400 questions tonight. Um, we're doing a different way this year. 1:33:40.520 --> 1:33:43.760 Used to be the Tony Basselli Twitter questions, but you know, 1:33:43.800 --> 1:33:48.240 we're just changing it just because because we can open 1:33:48.280 --> 1:33:49.880 it up to everybody. So you're gonna make it the 1:33:49.920 --> 1:33:53.599 Pete Twitter questions. Yeah, the Pete Prisco Twitter questions tonight. 1:33:53.600 --> 1:33:56.439 I don't like Tony even happier. There's a couple that 1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:59.080 are just to you tonight logs, but that's okay. Here's 1:33:59.080 --> 1:34:02.920 the first one from do Good. Not many bright spots 1:34:02.960 --> 1:34:06.639 in the first preseason game. Thanks do Good. But who 1:34:06.720 --> 1:34:11.479 do you think shined the most for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Pete, 1:34:11.520 --> 1:34:18.400 you want to start us on this one? Uh No, 1:34:18.600 --> 1:34:21.560 it's not tough. C J. Revis. He he had a 1:34:21.680 --> 1:34:26.320 really nice yes, but Pete, he took a step back 1:34:26.439 --> 1:34:28.400 when he released a video from locker room. You know, 1:34:28.479 --> 1:34:31.920 so you gained all this traction and in our eyes 1:34:32.080 --> 1:34:34.400 and then you do something like that, so it dropped back. 1:34:35.080 --> 1:34:38.759 I'll give him that, yes revis I think he played 1:34:38.800 --> 1:34:41.080 well enough Pete to say that, you know, you've got 1:34:41.160 --> 1:34:44.160 two young starting safeties. Did he do enough to get 1:34:44.200 --> 1:34:48.080 in a conversation for maybe vying for a starting job 1:34:48.760 --> 1:34:51.240 starting like over those two I'm just saying, is that 1:34:51.560 --> 1:34:53.800 Dug Moron made the point that he talked about because 1:34:53.840 --> 1:34:56.280 he was asked the question about if you're not playing guys, 1:34:56.680 --> 1:34:58.800 how do you determine who's gonna start? And he made 1:34:58.840 --> 1:35:02.240 a comment that if somebody is playing and they play 1:35:02.320 --> 1:35:05.120 well enough to catch your eye, then you have to 1:35:05.240 --> 1:35:07.840 open up the conversation again about who the starter should be. 1:35:09.240 --> 1:35:11.000 Because his was a name that was mentioned to me 1:35:11.200 --> 1:35:13.599 very early in the process as a kid that they 1:35:13.800 --> 1:35:16.920 thought had a chance to push. I don't think he's 1:35:16.920 --> 1:35:19.680 going to push for a starting job now, but if 1:35:19.720 --> 1:35:23.160 somebody struggles there midway through the season, you might be 1:35:23.320 --> 1:35:26.519 looking at him as a guy. Anyway, it was nice 1:35:26.560 --> 1:35:29.720 to see him play well and it also gives them 1:35:29.920 --> 1:35:32.680 some some good depth. You hope that trend continues with 1:35:32.840 --> 1:35:35.240 his level of play, And I will say that after 1:35:35.320 --> 1:35:38.160 watching him in training camp, I don't know if anybody 1:35:38.200 --> 1:35:42.080 works harder than he does in special special teams drills. 1:35:42.560 --> 1:35:45.200 He is committed and he gets it. He understands that 1:35:45.320 --> 1:35:48.599 special teams are important to him. Well, okay, but if 1:35:48.640 --> 1:35:50.879 you had to make a change in one of those safeties, 1:35:51.280 --> 1:35:56.200 isn't gonna be Harrison. Well let's see how they play Pete. 1:35:56.200 --> 1:35:59.360 I mean, look, I mean, Harson's draft pick. And if 1:35:59.400 --> 1:36:02.360 you if I'm gonna do what I do to Tony, 1:36:02.439 --> 1:36:05.480 to you, Jeff, put you on the spot. You're suggesting 1:36:05.520 --> 1:36:08.679 that he's pushing for time. He's got to be pushing Wilson. Okay, 1:36:08.760 --> 1:36:10.519 I think you could push either guy. I mean, look, 1:36:10.760 --> 1:36:13.360 neither one of these guys has shown that there Ed Reid. 1:36:13.439 --> 1:36:16.240 I mean, come on, I mean one of them gets 1:36:16.280 --> 1:36:20.240 more respect. Ronny Harrison gets more respect because he's a 1:36:20.320 --> 1:36:23.400 draft pick. Jared Wilson it probably doesn't get hardly any 1:36:23.479 --> 1:36:26.960 respect because he was an undrafted free agent rookie. But look, 1:36:27.000 --> 1:36:28.840 he's a good football player, I mean good enough to 1:36:29.000 --> 1:36:32.720 let too. Seawan Gibson go alright, good enough to let 1:36:33.320 --> 1:36:37.720 problem to a young safety nipping. Look, I just say this, 1:36:38.240 --> 1:36:40.680 Neither one of the safeties have have done it for 1:36:40.720 --> 1:36:43.479 a season to where they've shown that they are a 1:36:43.680 --> 1:36:46.320 stud safety. So if you have a young guy that's 1:36:46.360 --> 1:36:49.160 showing himself that he's a good football player, looking, and 1:36:49.280 --> 1:36:52.639 what's wrong with having a little a little pressure put 1:36:52.720 --> 1:36:55.120 on guys that are expected starters by the head coach 1:36:55.160 --> 1:36:57.320 saying you know that's c J. Reevers. You know he's 1:36:57.320 --> 1:36:59.840 playing pretty well. Now, maybe he's one of those guys 1:37:00.080 --> 1:37:02.479 that I talked about before that could be pushing first 1:37:02.520 --> 1:37:06.920 starting job. What do the other two guys goat, Uh, 1:37:07.280 --> 1:37:11.040 he's a special team or twenty two to Cody Davis 1:37:11.600 --> 1:37:15.639 veteran players seventh year, that's your special And that goes 1:37:15.720 --> 1:37:18.679 to show you that that is a is a decision 1:37:18.840 --> 1:37:22.120 made purely based on special teams. Well, he was signed 1:37:22.160 --> 1:37:26.200 here based on specialty, absolutely, But I mean there's positions 1:37:26.320 --> 1:37:29.439 that are that are like that more than just at safety. 1:37:29.840 --> 1:37:32.799 The fourth safety spot is going to be a special 1:37:32.840 --> 1:37:39.200 teams consideration. The five and six linebacking positions. If there 1:37:39.320 --> 1:37:41.559 is a six, if you've got enough quality depth there 1:37:41.880 --> 1:37:46.439 are going to be special teams determined positions. McCray a. 1:37:46.720 --> 1:37:51.240 A third team rush end is gonna be a special 1:37:51.320 --> 1:37:54.639 team's decision. Tight end. When you get to the third 1:37:54.760 --> 1:37:58.360 tight end and the fourth tight end, special team's decisions. 1:37:58.760 --> 1:38:01.040 You know, there's about five, we were six spots on 1:38:01.160 --> 1:38:04.160 your roster that when you start to say, oh, who 1:38:04.240 --> 1:38:09.280 are we going to keep at safety, cornerback, tight end, linebacker. 1:38:09.960 --> 1:38:12.600 Uh am I missing any positions, fullback maybe if you 1:38:12.680 --> 1:38:15.559 have a fullback, but all those positions right there, there's 1:38:15.600 --> 1:38:19.479 decisions at at those at those positions in backup roles 1:38:19.600 --> 1:38:24.880 that are special teams determined. First. That's it. So maybe 1:38:24.960 --> 1:38:29.639 five or six positions three man roster, our positional players, 1:38:30.120 --> 1:38:33.160 but special teams quality level of play is what determines 1:38:33.280 --> 1:38:35.439 who's going to get those six spots. Well, well, I 1:38:35.479 --> 1:38:37.880 mean like the corners, we can almost decide who they 1:38:37.920 --> 1:38:39.760 are right now. So the fifth cour if you have 1:38:39.840 --> 1:38:41.640 a fifth corner, that guy's got to be a key 1:38:41.720 --> 1:38:45.360 special teams player. Oh absolutely, you're you're so who would 1:38:45.360 --> 1:38:49.920 that be, right? Because I would think the at five 1:38:50.040 --> 1:38:53.839 the fifth corner position, yeah, well you got Jalen Ramsey 1:38:53.960 --> 1:38:56.320 a J boy A Trey Herndon, d J Hey, and 1:38:56.360 --> 1:39:03.040 there's your top four, right, So who's five? All right? Now? Uh? Interesting? 1:39:03.880 --> 1:39:07.160 Quentin Meeks has been okay, not as exciting as he 1:39:07.320 --> 1:39:10.839 was last year. He's in the conversation with Brian Borders. 1:39:10.840 --> 1:39:13.280 I don't know if anybody has better stats than Brian 1:39:13.400 --> 1:39:16.320 Borders in camp so far as far as camp and 1:39:16.400 --> 1:39:19.759 touching the ball and interception. So but they're there again 1:39:20.479 --> 1:39:24.160 that we're we're talking about defensive numbers. You have to 1:39:24.240 --> 1:39:30.479 evaluate that spot from special teams. So is Brian Borders 1:39:30.560 --> 1:39:33.960 or quint Meeks shown better on special teams? Good question, Well, 1:39:34.080 --> 1:39:37.200 that that's how you answer. That's the answer to who 1:39:37.360 --> 1:39:39.639 is going to be that next corner to make the roster? 1:39:39.920 --> 1:39:42.280 There you go. Let's move on to our next question 1:39:42.320 --> 1:39:46.360 from at Joey Jaguar eight. Is Cam practicing today just 1:39:46.560 --> 1:39:48.920 to settle the injury panic that was starting to set in. 1:39:49.479 --> 1:39:52.400 Doug was depressing everyone this weekend. But now they're saying 1:39:52.479 --> 1:39:55.840 Cam and Oliver maybe back by week one. Seems too 1:39:55.920 --> 1:39:58.000 good to be a coincidence. All I know is that 1:39:58.080 --> 1:40:02.120 I got depressed Saturday after hearing dog I did I 1:40:02.160 --> 1:40:04.800 mean right? It was kind of like he was as 1:40:04.840 --> 1:40:07.040 down about that as anything I've ever heard and talk 1:40:07.120 --> 1:40:12.280 about the young day. Yeah, it was two things. One, 1:40:12.320 --> 1:40:15.000 if you heard the tone, it was kind of depressing. 1:40:15.080 --> 1:40:19.320 And when you when you get that after you watched 1:40:19.400 --> 1:40:21.960 the game Thursday and then you hear that, you're like, oh, 1:40:23.160 --> 1:40:28.080 oh no, right right this week two of the preseason. 1:40:28.120 --> 1:40:31.840 Oh boy. But even if you read the script and 1:40:31.960 --> 1:40:40.120 ignored the the tone, you went the transcript, Yeah, absolutely right. 1:40:41.160 --> 1:40:43.040 But they did have some news to I mean, I'm 1:40:43.080 --> 1:40:45.519 just glad that Doug bounced back. Yes, thank you for 1:40:45.600 --> 1:40:49.400 the rebound today. So Cam's back out there. Josh Oliver 1:40:49.680 --> 1:40:52.280 had a little something on the side today the tight end. 1:40:52.360 --> 1:40:54.960 That's good news. Hopeful. They're hoping he'll be back week 1:40:55.000 --> 1:40:58.160 one now. Doug Maron said that today Williams Williams won't 1:40:58.160 --> 1:40:59.960 be back for a week. When was it when he's 1:41:00.000 --> 1:41:01.720 supposed to be back, Quincy Williams are hoping a week 1:41:01.760 --> 1:41:05.920 one for him as well. Can he this is some moment, 1:41:06.000 --> 1:41:09.200 asked Jeff, Jeff, Can he go the entire preseason without 1:41:09.240 --> 1:41:10.800 playing and walk on the field and be a starter 1:41:10.880 --> 1:41:16.160 in week one? Williams you're talking about can he? Yes? 1:41:16.320 --> 1:41:22.160 He can? If he yeah, I think he will, But 1:41:22.360 --> 1:41:25.160 but I don't. I don't think that that he's going 1:41:25.240 --> 1:41:28.000 to start back to practice week one and then play 1:41:28.040 --> 1:41:30.840 in the game, be ready to rock. I think he'll 1:41:30.880 --> 1:41:34.320 have maybe two weeks of practice to get ready. I hope, 1:41:34.360 --> 1:41:37.680 I hope. Anyway, you know where he's working week one. 1:41:37.760 --> 1:41:40.960 He's not starting then, No, I mean he could. I 1:41:41.000 --> 1:41:44.080 mean he could, he could come back and start week one, 1:41:44.160 --> 1:41:46.160 but I would think that you would like to have 1:41:46.240 --> 1:41:49.599 a couple of weeks with a rookie. So how who 1:41:49.680 --> 1:41:52.639 starts there then in week one? In your mind? Um 1:41:53.920 --> 1:41:58.479 h nause good, yeah, yeah, he's he's athletic now, he is. 1:41:58.680 --> 1:42:01.600 He is very good on open Miles Jack at the 1:42:01.640 --> 1:42:06.120 mic Good at the will, and then Leon Jacobs at 1:42:06.200 --> 1:42:10.040 the strong side, Sam So and then at some point 1:42:10.120 --> 1:42:15.559 does Jake Ryan get back and then obviously the other 1:42:15.640 --> 1:42:18.080 day by the way, Quincy Williams gets back. I mean, 1:42:18.200 --> 1:42:21.360 but yeah, I mean it's a nagy good by the way, 1:42:21.840 --> 1:42:25.920 pete Um, I'm watching him out there on the practice 1:42:25.960 --> 1:42:29.400 field and I'm going, Okay, this guy's in his eighth year. 1:42:30.240 --> 1:42:32.600 He's bouncing around, right, how many different teams has he 1:42:32.680 --> 1:42:34.600 been on? Because it has only been the Colts or 1:42:34.680 --> 1:42:37.280 has he been on other teams? I'm trying to trying 1:42:37.320 --> 1:42:39.040 to remember. But anyway, here's a guy that was not 1:42:40.000 --> 1:42:42.760 a priority free agent I'll use that term. And he's 1:42:42.840 --> 1:42:44.160 kind of one of those guys that you could have 1:42:44.520 --> 1:42:46.639 anybody could have gotten off of the I don't want 1:42:46.640 --> 1:42:50.720 to say scrappy, but out there in the market. He 1:42:50.840 --> 1:42:56.200 was a Bucks draft picks Colts, all right, So he's 1:42:56.240 --> 1:42:59.280 been around the block. When you watch him in practice 1:42:59.320 --> 1:43:01.640 and you watch how he moves, I mean he's he 1:43:01.760 --> 1:43:05.479 got great movement skills, he's athletic. You go to yourself, 1:43:06.840 --> 1:43:10.479 why was has he so? Why has he been so 1:43:10.600 --> 1:43:13.280 well traveled? Because I mean he looks like he's a 1:43:13.320 --> 1:43:18.280 good football player. Now, I mean good football player, athletics, strong, fast, right, 1:43:18.320 --> 1:43:19.879 I mean that once you look for in the linebacker, 1:43:20.600 --> 1:43:22.320 I think he's a nice little fine I mean, and 1:43:23.720 --> 1:43:25.519 if you can hold down to fort for however long 1:43:25.600 --> 1:43:30.200 it's needed, that's positive. Let's get one more question, and 1:43:30.680 --> 1:43:32.679 that came in a little late as the show started 1:43:32.760 --> 1:43:37.439 today from at I K triad. I guess is how 1:43:37.560 --> 1:43:41.280 you say that are there any position groups that are 1:43:41.320 --> 1:43:44.320 looking way better or way worse than you expected before 1:43:44.439 --> 1:43:48.719 camp started. Also, it's a second question. This is there's 1:43:48.720 --> 1:43:52.400 a two question question. Okay, Also to how about a 1:43:52.400 --> 1:43:55.479 two part question? Part question to this one question? Uh, 1:43:55.800 --> 1:43:57.960 do you have you found any hidden gyms among the 1:43:58.120 --> 1:44:01.679 undrafted free agent rookie class? All, it's the second part 1:44:02.040 --> 1:44:05.280 first the hidden gems that I identified a couple of 1:44:05.320 --> 1:44:09.679 weeks in Jeff's if you will whatever on on Happy 1:44:09.760 --> 1:44:14.280 Hour on Jaguars Thursday, Happy Our on Thursday. Okay, it's 1:44:14.320 --> 1:44:16.280 happy Hour on Thursday. I just want to make sure 1:44:16.320 --> 1:44:18.800 I got that right. Thursday's happy, Thursday's happier. That's the 1:44:18.840 --> 1:44:20.479 way to do it. Thank you, give me some knucks. 1:44:20.520 --> 1:44:23.559 There we go. Uh. Was Charles Jones the tight end, 1:44:23.600 --> 1:44:27.639 the undrafted guy from Tulane and then the wide receiver 1:44:28.240 --> 1:44:32.240 Tyree Brady And those are my two guys. Now. I 1:44:32.400 --> 1:44:35.439 still feel really good about Charles Jones, even though he's 1:44:35.479 --> 1:44:39.680 not practicing, because for a young drundrafted player, for the 1:44:39.720 --> 1:44:42.200 team to continue to have confidence in you and continue 1:44:42.240 --> 1:44:44.080 to gain more confidence in you, you need to be 1:44:44.560 --> 1:44:49.120 what's the word, JP, We've heard it a million times. Availability. 1:44:49.640 --> 1:44:51.920 You need to be available. Well, right now, he's not 1:44:52.560 --> 1:44:54.200 but I still believe he's pretty good. He had a 1:44:54.240 --> 1:44:56.920 good game. He was a little bit overwhelmed at the 1:44:56.960 --> 1:44:58.959 beginning part of the game against some of the defensive 1:44:59.120 --> 1:45:02.960 ends of the Ravens, got overpowered a little bit, but 1:45:03.000 --> 1:45:05.679 then he settled down and did a really good job, 1:45:05.800 --> 1:45:09.040 finished some really nice blocks. In fact, almost drew a 1:45:09.120 --> 1:45:13.719 personal foul from who pushed him after a play because 1:45:14.320 --> 1:45:18.160 now Charles was blocking him down the field. Tyree Brady, 1:45:18.240 --> 1:45:21.200 on the other hand, Pete, I had identified him because 1:45:21.560 --> 1:45:24.160 there were times in practice that I confused Brady with 1:45:24.760 --> 1:45:27.439 Chris Conley. I was like, man, that was a nice 1:45:27.479 --> 1:45:29.880 catch by Conley, and I look and I go, no, 1:45:30.040 --> 1:45:33.320 that's the that's a nine. It's a one nine, not 1:45:33.479 --> 1:45:35.920 a one eight. Similar build. Yeah, I think that's the 1:45:35.920 --> 1:45:39.519 same size, guys, And uh so, I mean he looked 1:45:39.520 --> 1:45:42.040 it did some things. But then in the game, and 1:45:42.120 --> 1:45:45.280 here's the thing that doesn't help in your evaluation process 1:45:45.920 --> 1:45:49.320 for any wide receiver, and that's the performance of the 1:45:49.400 --> 1:45:52.519 offensive line and the quarterback play in the ball game, 1:45:52.760 --> 1:45:57.519 which wasn't great. But Tyree Brady on special teams, That's 1:45:57.560 --> 1:46:00.320 where I'm looking at right because we're talking about one 1:46:00.360 --> 1:46:02.160 of those wide receivers that if he's gonna find a 1:46:02.200 --> 1:46:03.479 way to make the team, he's got to do it 1:46:03.560 --> 1:46:07.880 on special teams. I was underimpressed with his level of 1:46:07.960 --> 1:46:11.080 play on special teams. But how about a position group 1:46:11.320 --> 1:46:13.760 either better or worse than you expected before camp. I 1:46:13.840 --> 1:46:16.719 think all of them out what I expected. I think 1:46:17.040 --> 1:46:20.799 that I think the receivers are better than I expected. 1:46:22.680 --> 1:46:25.320 Oh you don't agree, Lugs, Well, I don't. I don't 1:46:25.320 --> 1:46:28.679 want say I disagree. I think I think I gotta 1:46:28.720 --> 1:46:32.640 see more evidence to feel that way. I think for 1:46:32.720 --> 1:46:34.759 a big year, I think Shark is taking some steps 1:46:34.800 --> 1:46:37.000 forward now. He ustill got to do it when it counts, 1:46:37.280 --> 1:46:39.720 And I think Connolly has been a nice addition. Some 1:46:39.880 --> 1:46:42.240 drops every now and again, though, that's one thing better 1:46:42.320 --> 1:46:45.240 than what the perception is up. And they're connecting on 1:46:45.360 --> 1:46:47.600 some deep balls. They had another couple ones today that 1:46:48.240 --> 1:46:51.120 JP great. You bring up a great point, pete Uh. 1:46:52.200 --> 1:46:56.400 Because the deep balls that they are connecting on not 1:46:56.520 --> 1:47:00.040 only in their own practice with against each other, and 1:47:00.160 --> 1:47:04.240 also in the Ravens practices. There were many deep balls. 1:47:04.320 --> 1:47:07.080 Now if you look at the Jaguars Wide Receiving Corps 1:47:08.040 --> 1:47:14.400 d J. Chark, legitimate deep threat, uh, Chris Conley legitimate 1:47:14.479 --> 1:47:20.080 deep threat, Keeling Cole legitimate deep threatn D. D. Westbrook. 1:47:21.479 --> 1:47:23.280 I would say he's a deep threat. But out of 1:47:23.320 --> 1:47:27.519 those four guys, three of them are legitimate guys that 1:47:27.640 --> 1:47:30.920 can go over the top and win. And Jimmy Smith 1:47:31.280 --> 1:47:35.040 of the Ravens the cornerback, Okay, learned that pretty quickly 1:47:36.320 --> 1:47:40.280 multiple times. And the Jaguars practice with the Ravens so 1:47:40.840 --> 1:47:44.560 good a good corners and good corners, car car and 1:47:44.640 --> 1:47:49.280 Jimmy Smith. So that that's something that I think that 1:47:50.439 --> 1:47:53.920 the Jaguars fans if that's the one trait that I 1:47:54.040 --> 1:47:56.720 think is a little bit different out of what we've 1:47:56.760 --> 1:47:59.840 seen in the past with the Jaguars offense. They are 1:48:00.080 --> 1:48:04.280 more than willing to throw the ball deep with offensive 1:48:04.320 --> 1:48:08.639 coordinator John D. Felippo, let's come back. We'll go around 1:48:08.680 --> 1:48:12.920 the National Football League. We'll hit the situation in Dallas, 1:48:13.000 --> 1:48:16.240 Pete that apparently is kind of not really breaking. There's 1:48:16.280 --> 1:48:20.080 nothing happening over the last hour or so, thirty million dollars, 1:48:20.160 --> 1:48:23.440 The kids are bogly, Dirndl was he crazy? Dak Prescott, 1:48:23.520 --> 1:48:25.920 We'll get to that. Antonio Brown, all that's coming up. 1:48:25.920 --> 1:48:34.759 It's Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network. Tito's 1:48:34.800 --> 1:48:39.439 Haymade Vodka is America's original craft vodka. 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I didn't get one. 1:52:07.040 --> 1:52:10.000 Manda Holt made a fantastic batch of cookies in the office. 1:52:10.040 --> 1:52:12.560 I was looking forward to having one right before the 1:52:12.600 --> 1:52:14.920 show or during the show. Is like kind of a snack, 1:52:15.000 --> 1:52:18.280 holding over until dinner time. And I was actually getting 1:52:18.320 --> 1:52:21.320 enough to go get one of Joe's. Like, dude, they're gone, 1:52:21.320 --> 1:52:26.360 all these scavengers. I mean it's a star, right, you 1:52:26.439 --> 1:52:29.280 know that's right, I mean it's aide. Let's go around 1:52:29.320 --> 1:52:31.760 the National Football League in our final minutes. Here we 1:52:31.880 --> 1:52:38.080 start in Dallas where Dak Prescott apparently, well allegedly is 1:52:38.160 --> 1:52:41.040 turning down thirty million a year because he wants forty 1:52:41.160 --> 1:52:45.120 million a year. Pete, is this true? And is he nuts? Yeah? 1:52:45.200 --> 1:52:47.920 It's true and he's nuts, yes, and yes, I mean 1:52:48.000 --> 1:52:50.600 bottom line, Look, you know what happens with the quarterbacks, 1:52:50.640 --> 1:52:52.760 and it's the next guy up once the biggest deal, 1:52:52.920 --> 1:52:55.920 and doesn't mean he should get it. Uh, if somebody, 1:52:56.000 --> 1:52:58.599 if the Dallas Cowboys are offering Dak Prescott thirty million 1:52:58.640 --> 1:53:02.599 dollars a year, he should race up there and take it, period, 1:53:02.720 --> 1:53:06.880 end of story. Uh. He's not that good. He's a good, 1:53:06.960 --> 1:53:09.200 serviceable quarterback. He's not the guy's going to carry that 1:53:09.280 --> 1:53:12.280 franchise if need be. So he's crazy. If he turns 1:53:12.320 --> 1:53:15.120 down thirty million dollars, you're dead on the money. Alright, Pete. 1:53:15.160 --> 1:53:18.200 I would totally agree with you, but I don't want 1:53:18.240 --> 1:53:20.599 to make sure that people understand that he turned down 1:53:21.240 --> 1:53:25.080 thirty million a year an extension. It doesn't. It doesn't. 1:53:25.080 --> 1:53:27.880 It's not like he is going to have his his 1:53:28.000 --> 1:53:31.400 existing contract ripped up and then he's gonna start earning 1:53:31.560 --> 1:53:34.200 thirty million a year starting right now. So that's a 1:53:34.240 --> 1:53:39.920 little different, but it's a lot of money. Elliott is 1:53:39.960 --> 1:53:42.479 a better player in his position than Doc isn't. His 1:53:43.040 --> 1:53:44.880 dad is more valuable to that team. I don't care 1:53:44.920 --> 1:53:53.400 what anybody says. I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd 1:53:53.439 --> 1:53:55.160 go there. I mean there, I mean the running backs 1:53:55.479 --> 1:54:00.240 are replaceable, yes, but are you eating Eminem's By the 1:54:00.280 --> 1:54:04.320 way I'm hearing crunching? Would rather my bag is open over? 1:54:04.479 --> 1:54:12.080 Would you rather play quarterback Cooper Rush and Zeke Elliott 1:54:12.520 --> 1:54:18.000 or the backup running back and Dak Prescott. I'd rather 1:54:18.040 --> 1:54:22.000 play the backup running back in Dak Prescott. But I mean, well, 1:54:22.080 --> 1:54:24.040 you know, and that might be debatable now because the 1:54:24.080 --> 1:54:27.040 backup running back with the Dallas Cowboys is not that good. Pete, 1:54:27.400 --> 1:54:31.400 it's Tony Pollard. He's a young rookie. Well, I mean, now, 1:54:31.479 --> 1:54:33.040 he's a rookie. I mean the one that they had 1:54:33.120 --> 1:54:37.360 last year. The quarterbacks more valuable. Looking back on it, 1:54:37.560 --> 1:54:40.040 they probably should have drafted Jayla Ramsey, right, That's what 1:54:40.120 --> 1:54:44.400 we said right at the draft. I can I can 1:54:44.480 --> 1:54:49.520 tell you this, Zeke Elliott for that organization has been 1:54:49.720 --> 1:54:53.080 exactly what they've needed for for where they were at 1:54:53.120 --> 1:54:56.160 with their quarterback and where they are at as an offense. 1:54:57.000 --> 1:54:59.080 That was a better fit for them as a team 1:54:59.560 --> 1:55:01.640 than j and Ramsey would have been when he's been available. 1:55:02.880 --> 1:55:10.760 He's been suspended a bunch, right, what's that? Oh, you 1:55:10.840 --> 1:55:12.480 gotta be careful with the running back. I don't think 1:55:12.480 --> 1:55:14.800 there's any doubt about that. And he's got what he's 1:55:14.840 --> 1:55:18.120 got how many years left on his contract? He's got two, right, 1:55:18.440 --> 1:55:20.839 I mean two more. He's got one this year under contract, 1:55:20.920 --> 1:55:22.760 and then he's got an option year which they picked up, 1:55:22.760 --> 1:55:24.280 and he's gotten the next year, so he's got two. 1:55:24.640 --> 1:55:27.320 He's got too. He's crazy he's getting a new deal. Well, 1:55:27.360 --> 1:55:30.320 I mean, I don't blame him for trying, because I 1:55:30.400 --> 1:55:33.080 can tell you this is and let me ask you 1:55:33.200 --> 1:55:36.480 this question, Pete. Is he not worth more than what 1:55:36.600 --> 1:55:41.160 he's getting right now? Yes? Yeah, So do you blame 1:55:41.280 --> 1:55:46.000 him for withholding his services right now and holding now? No? Absolutely, 1:55:46.800 --> 1:55:48.800 Gordon is worth more than he's getting right now. But 1:55:48.880 --> 1:55:50.920 you've gotta be careful with those deal And they can 1:55:50.960 --> 1:55:53.560 look at Todd Gurley's deal and blame him because the 1:55:53.680 --> 1:55:56.560 running back market has gone off the edge because of 1:55:56.640 --> 1:56:02.040 Todd Gurley. Let's move to Oakland. Antonio Brown's saga first 1:56:02.160 --> 1:56:05.800 is the frost bitten feet. Now now he's threatening to 1:56:05.880 --> 1:56:08.320 not play anymore if he can't use his old muscle helmet, 1:56:08.400 --> 1:56:11.200 and the arbitrator has come down and said that he 1:56:11.280 --> 1:56:14.120 cannot use the old helmet. This is a twelve year 1:56:14.160 --> 1:56:17.680 old shoot air advantage helmet. H Brown believed to be 1:56:17.800 --> 1:56:19.960 the only player resisting the new rule. I think there 1:56:19.960 --> 1:56:22.560 were thirty players are so grandfather did last year. Now 1:56:22.840 --> 1:56:26.400 there's a bunch of guys that have had to change helmets. 1:56:26.480 --> 1:56:29.920 Tom Brady including in that group. But here's the deal, 1:56:30.600 --> 1:56:34.760 Antonio Brown is better than days of our lives. I 1:56:34.840 --> 1:56:39.360 can tell you that this is This is entertainment. I mean, 1:56:39.400 --> 1:56:42.440 this guy, he's a nut job, he really is. And 1:56:42.600 --> 1:56:46.680 and and look they're trying to make it safer for you, 1:56:46.840 --> 1:56:51.920 your knucklehead. Take the new helmet. It's all it's incredible, 1:56:51.960 --> 1:56:54.160 but you can't see the football. Pete, Come on, man, 1:56:54.640 --> 1:56:57.200 you're telling me, okay, And here's the thing, Pete, it's 1:56:57.240 --> 1:57:00.480 not like the NFL is saying, here's your new helmet. 1:57:01.560 --> 1:57:04.360 You only can have one. It's the only one we 1:57:04.520 --> 1:57:08.280 have available. There's a they have like twelve helmets to 1:57:08.440 --> 1:57:12.280 choose from, and every one of them and maybe you 1:57:12.360 --> 1:57:13.880 might be right, it might be more than twelve. But 1:57:13.920 --> 1:57:16.680 there is a variety of helmets for him to choose from, 1:57:17.080 --> 1:57:22.440 and ones that are proven proven that they're lighter, better 1:57:22.840 --> 1:57:29.520 far as more aerodynamic, more uh air cooling and are safer, 1:57:29.760 --> 1:57:33.400 most importantly for you than the helmet that you were wearing. 1:57:33.920 --> 1:57:36.120 Why did you wear Did you wear Ridel when you 1:57:36.160 --> 1:57:39.240 came into the league. I wore Ridel when I came 1:57:39.280 --> 1:57:41.440 in the league because that was really your only option 1:57:41.600 --> 1:57:45.000 was Rodell and and I don't think we had many choices. 1:57:45.320 --> 1:57:49.240 We had a couple of options. Did you bring the 1:57:49.320 --> 1:57:54.240 same helmet? Did I wear the same helmet you're after year? Hell? No, 1:57:55.800 --> 1:57:58.160 I'm not gonna wear the same helmet because after you 1:57:58.440 --> 1:58:01.480 beat heads with somebody for entire year, do you think 1:58:01.560 --> 1:58:02.920 that that's gonna be safe for me to wear it 1:58:03.000 --> 1:58:04.480 the next year? As it would be if I got 1:58:04.560 --> 1:58:07.160 a new everything. No, I don't get it. I don't 1:58:07.240 --> 1:58:10.440 understand the whole he's at. You're right, he's better than 1:58:10.440 --> 1:58:12.920 the days of our lives. It is. It's entertaining, though, 1:58:12.920 --> 1:58:14.800 I mean, I mean, you gotta love it from that aspect. 1:58:15.200 --> 1:58:20.800 Here's the disappointing thing. This was a great opportunity for HBO, 1:58:21.640 --> 1:58:26.760 right and Hard Knocks, and and John Gruden is rooting 1:58:26.840 --> 1:58:30.960 it by cuttinging, cutting all this stuff on the editing floor, 1:58:31.240 --> 1:58:34.600 I mean, from the from the cryogenically frozen foot to 1:58:34.760 --> 1:58:38.400 the helmet to the non participation in practice and they're 1:58:38.400 --> 1:58:41.000 cutting that out of hard Knocks. This could be the 1:58:41.080 --> 1:58:47.640 best hard knocks ever and I thought disappointing. All right, 1:58:48.480 --> 1:58:51.840 we've made it through another program, Jaguars Happy Hour. Pete, 1:58:52.000 --> 1:58:56.000 well done with logs, so easy to talk and be 1:58:56.280 --> 1:59:00.320 no yelling and screaming and just good football conversation. Nation. 1:59:00.680 --> 1:59:03.600 It's a rarity on this program. Consider who else is 1:59:03.680 --> 1:59:06.240 usually on the show. Don't get used to it because 1:59:06.400 --> 1:59:09.720 Tony Basel will be back next week for Jaguars Half 1:59:09.760 --> 1:59:12.280 Here Lugs. Thanks so much, good to see it. Thank you. 1:59:12.400 --> 1:59:14.880 By the way, I'll be the game Thursday. Cool. We'll 1:59:14.920 --> 1:59:19.160 see Pete Briscoe, Jeff Flagerman, birthday Boy, Joe Fortunato, britt 1:59:19.240 --> 1:59:21.720 rebar Our entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. We'll see you 1:59:21.800 --> 1:59:24.960 next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.