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Speaker 1: It is Monday, August twelve. This is Jaguars Happy Hour.

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Speaker 1: Jaguars Happy Hours presented by Jet Home Loans, and now

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Speaker 1: a guy crying genically frozen for absolute freshness j P.

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Speaker 1: Shad Rick. Hopefully not as long as Antonio Brown, but

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Speaker 1: that's okay. Welcome in Jaguars Happy Hour presented by Jet

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Speaker 1: Home Loans. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Logan, Pete Prisco, Hi, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: if your feet were damaged, you'd be okay, though you'd

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Speaker 1: be practicing j P. That's right, but you know, I

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Speaker 1: would use the helmet that they told me to. But

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Speaker 1: that's okay. That's a strange deal, and we'll get to

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Speaker 1: that a little range deal and around the league. Pete Prisco,

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Speaker 1: CBS Sports. I got, by the way Logs is in

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Speaker 1: because Basselli's sipping tea and eating crumpets. Literally, by the way,

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Speaker 1: if we froze Bassell's brain, we can put it in

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Speaker 1: like one of the little baby jars. Couldn't we tiny

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Speaker 1: lot at the museum somewhere right? Yeah, that's good, Pete,

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Speaker 1: that's a pretty good one. I like it. Um, We've

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Speaker 1: got plenty to get to on this program today. Left

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Speaker 1: Tackle News that was the big news of today. Nick

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Speaker 1: Voles speaks. The quarterback talking is always news. We'll hear

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Speaker 1: from QB coming up. Philosophy of starting or not starting

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Speaker 1: in the preseason, you're your starters for the regular season.

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Speaker 1: That's been a hot topic lately. Break that down. We'll

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Speaker 1: go around the National Football League as well. Let's start

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Speaker 1: today with the left tackle news. We'll start actually on Saturday,

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Speaker 1: Doug Moron, the Jaguars head coach, broke the news that

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Speaker 1: he wasn't sure some of these guys will be ready,

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Speaker 1: including Cam Robinson and Doug was down on Saturday. You know,

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Speaker 1: those guys are really trying hard, but today it was

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Speaker 1: kind of a benchmark. You know, they try to kind

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Speaker 1: of get them back. I don't know if they're gonna

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Speaker 1: they're working hard, the train is working hard, and everybody's

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Speaker 1: working hard for uh, you know, but we just can't

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Speaker 1: get him over the hump. So we've gotta go and

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Speaker 1: start preparing um to play without him. That's Saturday. Let's

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Speaker 1: move to Monday morning today at T I A. Bank Field,

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Speaker 1: the Jaguars back in the practice field about five and

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Speaker 1: about eight fifteen, The first question of Doug Maron today

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Speaker 1: was the latest on Cam Robinson. B injuries have been

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Speaker 1: a big thing. We do have one change, uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: which we were excited about. Obviously, Cam Robinson is gonna

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Speaker 1: be off a pup, so, um, he'll be out there

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Speaker 1: on the practice field. He'll be going through walks throughs

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Speaker 1: and uh individual So that's the good news. Cam Robinson

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Speaker 1: back in the practice field. We had a chance to

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Speaker 1: see Cam Robinson on the practice field individuals walk throughs

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Speaker 1: today and then we heard from the big fellow after practice.

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Speaker 1: What in the world Cam Robinson back out there? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I had a plan this whole time. Uh mean a

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Speaker 1: week be back about week one. Um, I ever to

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Speaker 1: on how I felt coming in each and every day.

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Speaker 1: Anything anybody said, it didn't come from me. So long,

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Speaker 1: I've never really paid so much attention to us. So

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Speaker 1: people gonna talk. Okay, here he is about eleven months

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Speaker 1: since that injury and he's finally back on the practice

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Speaker 1: field in a limited role. Here that that's a long

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Speaker 1: time for for most guys, especially offensive lineman, to finally

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Speaker 1: come back to practice. You're talking about eleven months. Most

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Speaker 1: guys are back to some form of practice. Usually ten

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Speaker 1: is usually at the latest, Pete. I mean some some

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Speaker 1: guys are back sooner than that, maybe nine months for

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Speaker 1: for an offensive lineman. Yeah, and that leads me the

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Speaker 1: little bit of a red flag for me. And I

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Speaker 1: think we talked about this Jeff when I was up there. Um,

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Speaker 1: that's a long time and Joe did he not do

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Speaker 1: message sent by the head coach uh the other day?

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Speaker 1: And you you know, Jeff, you played for Tom. You

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Speaker 1: know how Tom would send those messages through the media

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Speaker 1: and try and get those two the players. That looked

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Speaker 1: like a message that was sent to him and message

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Speaker 1: list today, Well let me let me kind of. You

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Speaker 1: is is look, every knee is different. You know, could

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson's knee have responded later and that's why you

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Speaker 1: get cleared for practice so that he can be taken

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Speaker 1: based on what the person or the individual is telling

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Speaker 1: from that information. So did this end up maybe opening

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Speaker 1: the eyes of Cam Robinson? Oh my gosh. Uh, they're

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Speaker 1: preparing without me. I might not be ready or there

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Speaker 1: it open Cam Robinson's eyes? Maybe? Was it intended to

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Speaker 1: be a message by Doug Moron. I don't think it

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Speaker 1: was intended to be a message by Doug Moron. Doug

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Speaker 1: trainers are telling him. So but but Jeff, you know

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Speaker 1: better than that that Tom never would push back on

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Speaker 1: done it over the years. See, for me, isn't this

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Speaker 1: he's got a show that he's gonna be the best

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Speaker 1: option for the left tackle position. And that's not gonna

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Speaker 1: be easy to do because you're talking about a player

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Speaker 1: who has not done a practice yet in his return

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Speaker 1: from an A c L reconstruction, and you're talking about

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Speaker 1: This is exactly what you want to think of. You're

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Speaker 1: a coach. You want a position battle for the opening

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Speaker 1: offensive alignment to have some kind of cohesiveness. Sure a

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Speaker 1: practice field or in a game or whatever, right that

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Speaker 1: going on now too? With Can and Richardson? Is now

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Speaker 1: open battle too? Well? Look, I don't think it's a

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Speaker 1: me when they said it the other day. They're talking

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Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, if you're going to compete

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Speaker 1: you need to play right guard? Okay, what did he

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Speaker 1: do in Game one? Played right tackle? Because of the

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Speaker 1: So can he win that job, sure, but he's got

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Speaker 1: Number one is is that they feel that a J

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Speaker 1: ability to where Shatley is not that option? Maybe? Maybe? Jeff,

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Speaker 1: Who starts opening day on that offensive line? I think

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Speaker 1: I think everything is obviously. I think A. J. Cann

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Speaker 1: hard to get a real I get more out of

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Speaker 1: watching two teams practice against each other then I do

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Speaker 1: think that's more valuable, the practice time going against somebody

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Speaker 1: you do have benefit of it because the intensity ramps up.

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Speaker 1: you bring up a great point. How do you evaluate preseason? Okay,

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Speaker 1: Number one is is what is the game? M Do

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Speaker 1: you think that Todd wash is playing his nickel defense

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Speaker 1: So if if he's not, can you really evaluate the

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Speaker 1: game and say, boy, that was good or that was bad?

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Speaker 1: You can't because a lot of times when when the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars are playing in the preseason game, they might have

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Speaker 1: four plays in the playbook and its entirety offensively and

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Speaker 1: run those four plays play in and play out. So

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Speaker 1: they're not changing anything up. They're not giving anything any

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Speaker 1: kind of different looks. And you know what, the defense

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Speaker 1: may be playing guys that normally wouldn't play, or the

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Speaker 1: defense maybe playing a defensive system that they're not gonna

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Speaker 1: play in that situation in a regular game. For examples,

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Speaker 1: like the other night I did the Cardinals game right

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Speaker 1: I was in Arizona. Want to go see Murray's first game.

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Speaker 1: He completed five or six passes or whatever it was.

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Speaker 1: He didn't play in any style or four of the

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Speaker 1: offense that they're gonna use during the regular season nothing.

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Speaker 1: It was zero. Well, there's many times Kingsbury like to

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Speaker 1: spread people out and play five. I mean, people don't

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Speaker 1: show things in the preseason. But if you go to

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Speaker 1: a practice, and I'm sure you guys saw this last

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Speaker 1: year last week at Baltimore, when you go to a

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Speaker 1: practice where they're working against other team, they'll do a

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Speaker 1: lot more of their stuff. They'll show more stuff because

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Speaker 1: it's not on tape, and you know, it's not easy

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Speaker 1: So I think you show a lot more and working

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Speaker 1: a lot more when you're going against the team in

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Speaker 1: practice than you're doing the preseason. For example, real quick, JP,

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Speaker 1: multiple times in a preseason game, you've seen the Jaguars

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Speaker 1: playing an offense that might be in a three wide

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Speaker 1: receiver set, but yet the Jaguars are playing a base defense.

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Speaker 1: I mean, they're not even playing a nickel defense versus

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Speaker 1: three or four wides. They're like, we'll just play it

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Speaker 1: in based defense because that's what we have and and

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Speaker 1: we don't want to substitute the extra defensive backs or

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Speaker 1: it's a personnel issue or what you know. So so,

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Speaker 1: I mean, so in the preseason. You never get apple

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Speaker 1: versus oranges and oranges versus apples. Well, let me ask

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Speaker 1: you this, guys, when is this gonna change? Are they

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Speaker 1: gonna shorten this preseason at some point down? It's that

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Speaker 1: you in a perfect world, you'd like to see him

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Speaker 1: short in the preseason, But are they going to? I mean,

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Speaker 1: here's the thing. Do you do? You go to your

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Speaker 1: fan base and say, hey, look we're taking away two

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Speaker 1: preseason games, and so now your per ticket charges increased

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Speaker 1: per game for season tickets. Uh, you know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I think that's that's the one obstacle I think to

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Speaker 1: to eliminating it's part of the preseason or all of

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Speaker 1: the preseason. But the reality is that every coach will

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Speaker 1: tell you that, and I think the majority of the

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Speaker 1: consensus is among coaches in the National Football League that

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Speaker 1: if you give them two preseason games, that is plenty.

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Speaker 1: And anybody the coach that will tell you anything different

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Speaker 1: Pete is not telling the truth too. And work with

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Speaker 1: other teams either, you know, maybe me twice and for example,

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Speaker 1: I'm a big believer in I do still think it's

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Speaker 1: going to eighteen games at some point. I mean that's

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Speaker 1: a reality. The rosters are gonna get increased, there's gonna

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Speaker 1: be more jobs, more money than networks will like it,

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Speaker 1: the teams will like it, the owners will like it,

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Speaker 1: the players will make more money, and there'll be more jobs.

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Speaker 1: So I do think it's going there. But you gotta

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Speaker 1: get rid of two of them. And what you do

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Speaker 1: is Jacksonville went't worked out with Baltimore for for two days.

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Speaker 1: That's still gonna happen. But I still think they need

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Speaker 1: to add something else and what I would add, and

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Speaker 1: it would make a lot of sense to help grow

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Speaker 1: your NFL fan base. And some people think you don't

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Speaker 1: have to, but there's always you know, people out there

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Speaker 1: that can't go to games. Go in between two cities.

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Speaker 1: For example, the Jaguars would go meet the Falcons and

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Speaker 1: Valdosta have a workout with him on one day, have

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Speaker 1: like the supposed scrimmage, although you don't tackle at nighttime

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Speaker 1: on one day, make a little festival around it and

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Speaker 1: give the money to charity all of it. All the

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Speaker 1: money goes to a local charity. And therefore you're gonna

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Speaker 1: grow your fan base. People who from Valdosta who can't

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Speaker 1: go to Atlanta, can't afford to go to Atlanta, can't

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Speaker 1: afford to go to Jacksonville. We'll see an NFL game.

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Speaker 1: Miami and Tampa might need you know, whoever, wherever whatever, Right, wait, wait,

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Speaker 1: waityway you think you think that they're gonna do something

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Speaker 1: like that. That's ridiculous, pete, because the facilities aren't up

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Speaker 1: to pArg No, the facilities wouldn't be up to par

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Speaker 1: doing something like that. You're gonna stay, You're gonna stick

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Speaker 1: with what you do. That I think the best way

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Speaker 1: to do it. In the preseas you still continue to

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Speaker 1: play your your two preseason games, but you take those

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Speaker 1: two preseason games and you have two weeks off from

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Speaker 1: the last preseason game to the first regular season game,

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Speaker 1: and then the first preseason game is almost unassured. We're

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Speaker 1: gonna travel to a team and practice with them, or

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Speaker 1: they're gonna come to us, and then we practice each other.

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Speaker 1: If you could do the same thing on the second game,

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Speaker 1: and then your starters wouldn't have to play the second

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Speaker 1: preseason game, which will be your last preseason game, and

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Speaker 1: then you would have two weeks to get ready for

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Speaker 1: the season opener to me. That's that's the way you

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Speaker 1: should do it. It gives you ample time to get

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Speaker 1: ready to healthy to like Valdosta State or something and

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Speaker 1: do it. I like your idea, but the facilities aren't.

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Speaker 1: Aren't the quality at Valdosta State that you're gonna have

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Speaker 1: the Falcons in? And Uh Titans used to go meet

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Speaker 1: in Dalton, George at a high school facility? Do you

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Speaker 1: think do you think the NFL Association is going to

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Speaker 1: agree to go play at a high school stadium or

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Speaker 1: to go to some college facilities or it's like a

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Speaker 1: couple of work days just like they do it. Okay, No,

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Speaker 1: because it's an NFL player, I can tell you I

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Speaker 1: Tony was Sally this week. He'll be back. Do you

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Speaker 1: think next week? Tavin Bryan gets it started on this

640
00:34:06,360 --> 00:34:10,279
Speaker 1: defensive discussion here. Everybody's kind of on Taven these days,

641
00:34:10,280 --> 00:34:12,759
Speaker 1: at least online socially. Pete, I know you see some

642
00:34:12,840 --> 00:34:15,239
Speaker 1: of that online everywhere. It's kind of everybody's kind of

643
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 1: you know, Taven Bryan's the first round pick. Why is

644
00:34:18,719 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: he playing like a first round pick? Is? The argument? Is? He?

645
00:34:22,040 --> 00:34:25,200
Speaker 1: Is he? How is he playing in this preseason and

646
00:34:25,239 --> 00:34:27,560
Speaker 1: in this camp. We'll start with you. What have you

647
00:34:27,600 --> 00:34:30,440
Speaker 1: seen from Taven Brown? Let me say this, Uh, he

648
00:34:31,000 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 1: he didn't pick himself in the first round, so uh,

649
00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:38,520
Speaker 1: I think do you consider that though when you evaluate

650
00:34:38,640 --> 00:34:40,799
Speaker 1: the player? I mean you do that somewhat because it's

651
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,120
Speaker 1: just natural and the team picked himself. It's more you

652
00:34:43,200 --> 00:34:46,520
Speaker 1: evaluate the team's picking Taven Bryant is a first round pick.

653
00:34:47,120 --> 00:34:49,840
Speaker 1: How's he doing? Does he look and play like a

654
00:34:49,960 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: first round pick? So far? There are moments that Taven

655
00:34:52,600 --> 00:34:56,400
Speaker 1: Bryan has to where he is a physical, dominant presence

656
00:34:56,840 --> 00:34:59,080
Speaker 1: and he looks like a first round pick. Just like

657
00:34:59,200 --> 00:35:00,759
Speaker 1: in the game. He pushed to pocket a couple of

658
00:35:00,760 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: different times and he actually looked pretty good and rated

659
00:35:03,719 --> 00:35:05,759
Speaker 1: pretty well with the coaching staff. And then there are

660
00:35:05,800 --> 00:35:08,960
Speaker 1: other times when he pushed the pocket and the quarterback

661
00:35:09,160 --> 00:35:12,760
Speaker 1: literally steps up right past him and then Tavin didn't

662
00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:15,440
Speaker 1: see it and so the awareness was not there. But

663
00:35:15,680 --> 00:35:19,480
Speaker 1: that's something that you expect a first round caliber talent

664
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Speaker 1: to be able to come off and make the play.

665
00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: And so so it's kind of a mixed bag. But

666
00:35:25,800 --> 00:35:28,319
Speaker 1: I will say this, he's gotten better. And I think

667
00:35:28,440 --> 00:35:30,200
Speaker 1: part of the reason that he's gotten better is that

668
00:35:30,360 --> 00:35:32,680
Speaker 1: the coaches at the beginning of camp and last year

669
00:35:32,800 --> 00:35:35,719
Speaker 1: they were alternating him. Remember last year they had him

670
00:35:35,719 --> 00:35:37,799
Speaker 1: in a strong the strong end position, which was backing

671
00:35:37,840 --> 00:35:41,120
Speaker 1: up Clay's Campbell. Well, they learned last year that he

672
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:43,239
Speaker 1: was better as a three technique just getting off the ball,

673
00:35:43,280 --> 00:35:44,759
Speaker 1: which he does have a very good good off and

674
00:35:44,840 --> 00:35:46,600
Speaker 1: in training camp they started him out kind of the

675
00:35:46,680 --> 00:35:48,759
Speaker 1: same pattern. They had him at a strong side in

676
00:35:48,800 --> 00:35:51,560
Speaker 1: and then the three technique and then now though they

677
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 1: had been keeping him at just the three technique, and

678
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:57,040
Speaker 1: I think that has helped him, but he still has

679
00:35:57,160 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 1: a ways to go. And that Florida was very similar.

680
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:01,720
Speaker 1: He was very close to making a lot of place,

681
00:36:02,400 --> 00:36:05,680
Speaker 1: but the situational awareness or the football awareness needs to

682
00:36:05,800 --> 00:36:08,680
Speaker 1: be increased. And now is that a a learning thing

683
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:13,120
Speaker 1: where you're thinking about alignment, assignment, responsibility and then once

684
00:36:13,160 --> 00:36:15,080
Speaker 1: you get all those things taken care of Pete and

685
00:36:15,080 --> 00:36:17,040
Speaker 1: then everything else falls into place. I don't know the

686
00:36:17,120 --> 00:36:19,400
Speaker 1: answer to that, but only time will tell, you know,

687
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:22,520
Speaker 1: I'll be honest with you. I was working that night,

688
00:36:22,719 --> 00:36:25,239
Speaker 1: and but you know, being on Twitter and seeing all

689
00:36:25,280 --> 00:36:28,880
Speaker 1: the tweets coming out about him uh and beating him up,

690
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,200
Speaker 1: and then you know, thinking, I thought, Okay, this kid

691
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,239
Speaker 1: was on his back a lot. He was getting dominated.

692
00:36:33,600 --> 00:36:35,239
Speaker 1: And then I went back and rewatched the game and

693
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:37,400
Speaker 1: I didn't think it was nearly as bad as it

694
00:36:37,480 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: was portrayed. He had he had too bad place, Pete,

695
00:36:40,640 --> 00:36:43,120
Speaker 1: too bad place. And you make a good point, Jeff,

696
00:36:43,960 --> 00:36:46,600
Speaker 1: he do did push the pocket a couple of times. Now,

697
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 1: he just got to learn how to disengage and make

698
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,640
Speaker 1: the play. But I expected to see from just judging

699
00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:55,520
Speaker 1: from the tweets that I saw, I expected him to

700
00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:57,600
Speaker 1: spend the after the evening on his back and that

701
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:00,440
Speaker 1: wasn't the case. No, no, what was and like that.

702
00:37:00,680 --> 00:37:03,320
Speaker 1: But the one thing he's got to learn, for some reason,

703
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,960
Speaker 1: when he tries to disengage off of that power position,

704
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: a lot of times he he gets weak. So in

705
00:37:12,600 --> 00:37:15,680
Speaker 1: other words, when you when you are throwing an offensive lineman,

706
00:37:16,239 --> 00:37:18,480
Speaker 1: you have to be violent and it has to be

707
00:37:18,560 --> 00:37:22,600
Speaker 1: a violent physical move to disengage. It can't be I'm

708
00:37:22,680 --> 00:37:25,719
Speaker 1: letting go and then trying to fall off for sluff off,

709
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:28,880
Speaker 1: because they re engage you. They re engage you, and

710
00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:30,839
Speaker 1: they don't like they don't let go. That's offensive line

711
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:35,279
Speaker 1: are taught old. I will say that there were two

712
00:37:35,400 --> 00:37:38,400
Speaker 1: plays in the game that we're not good, and they

713
00:37:38,480 --> 00:37:41,880
Speaker 1: were short yardage plays and in both instances he was

714
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:44,880
Speaker 1: knocked off the ball a couple of yards each, and

715
00:37:45,000 --> 00:37:47,239
Speaker 1: so that was not good. I mean, because if you're

716
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,520
Speaker 1: going to be big, strong, physical short yardage, you need

717
00:37:50,560 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: to be the same thing. But but you would agree

718
00:37:53,840 --> 00:37:56,440
Speaker 1: with me not nearly as bad as the portrayal. Oh no, no, no,

719
00:37:56,560 --> 00:37:58,399
Speaker 1: I'd like to do some good things, some bad things.

720
00:37:58,480 --> 00:38:01,680
Speaker 1: That's the preseason and and hopefully he continues to get

721
00:38:01,760 --> 00:38:03,279
Speaker 1: better because he's gonna get a lot of a lot

722
00:38:03,320 --> 00:38:06,000
Speaker 1: of rotational playtime. You know, he's gonna be not gonna

723
00:38:06,000 --> 00:38:07,600
Speaker 1: be a starter, but he's gonna be a guy that

724
00:38:07,640 --> 00:38:09,960
Speaker 1: gets a ton of reps. Right. I mean, let's see,

725
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:16,440
Speaker 1: Josh Allen made his Jaguars debut first snap, had a

726
00:38:16,520 --> 00:38:20,120
Speaker 1: tackle for loss in the game against Baltimore. How did

727
00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,960
Speaker 1: he look on the first in his first Jaguars I

728
00:38:23,000 --> 00:38:25,920
Speaker 1: thought he looked good and I was happy that, uh,

729
00:38:26,520 --> 00:38:28,960
Speaker 1: you know, he got to see the ones. He got

730
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:35,360
Speaker 1: to see, Uh what's the left tackle from Notre Dame Stanley? Stanley?

731
00:38:35,960 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: And then he also got to see the starting right

732
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:42,520
Speaker 1: tackle that played a significant amount of playing time, which

733
00:38:42,719 --> 00:38:47,839
Speaker 1: was the Orlando Brown Jr. Right and that the right

734
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:50,719
Speaker 1: tackle from Oklahoma. And I think that they played him

735
00:38:50,719 --> 00:38:52,200
Speaker 1: a ton of that ball game because he came to

736
00:38:52,280 --> 00:38:53,680
Speaker 1: camp and he was out of shape. But tell me

737
00:38:54,239 --> 00:38:57,920
Speaker 1: two excellent tackles to face for Josh Allen the very

738
00:38:58,000 --> 00:38:59,520
Speaker 1: first play of the game. I thought it was a

739
00:38:59,600 --> 00:39:02,400
Speaker 1: very nice play. Was it a dominant play? I wouldn't

740
00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:05,160
Speaker 1: say a dominant play, but a nice way to start. Uh. Look,

741
00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,480
Speaker 1: it's gonna take some time for him to get comfortable

742
00:39:07,960 --> 00:39:09,640
Speaker 1: putting his hand on the ground. A lot of times

743
00:39:09,640 --> 00:39:11,200
Speaker 1: when he tries to line up on a tight end

744
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:14,120
Speaker 1: in a three point stance, that is something new for

745
00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,120
Speaker 1: him and it is very difficult to learn to do that.

746
00:39:17,800 --> 00:39:20,640
Speaker 1: But I thought the rushes he started to show signs

747
00:39:21,120 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 1: in the week of practice against the Ravens and and

748
00:39:23,480 --> 00:39:26,080
Speaker 1: also in the game that he was starting to work

749
00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:29,440
Speaker 1: the edges of the offensive lineman, which a lot of

750
00:39:29,480 --> 00:39:32,520
Speaker 1: times when you're a young pass rusher, you try to

751
00:39:32,560 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: take an offensive lineman down the middle and you overpower

752
00:39:35,160 --> 00:39:37,279
Speaker 1: the man. That doesn't work in the National Football League

753
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,280
Speaker 1: because the offensive tackles are too strong and too athletic.

754
00:39:40,360 --> 00:39:42,799
Speaker 1: And so he's starting to work the edges and that's

755
00:39:42,840 --> 00:39:45,360
Speaker 1: a good sign. And he's starting to show his speed

756
00:39:45,440 --> 00:39:47,759
Speaker 1: and his get off, and he's kind of unique, and

757
00:39:47,800 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 1: he's fun to watch from from my standpoint because he

758
00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:53,520
Speaker 1: plays the game from a three point and he also

759
00:39:53,600 --> 00:39:55,479
Speaker 1: has the ability to do it from a two point

760
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:57,680
Speaker 1: because he does have a very good get off. Most

761
00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,960
Speaker 1: people want to get into a track stance a three

762
00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:02,080
Speaker 1: point stands to be able to rush the passer. But

763
00:40:02,200 --> 00:40:04,320
Speaker 1: he has a good enough get off an anticipation that

764
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,200
Speaker 1: he can actually do it in a two point. So

765
00:40:06,239 --> 00:40:08,680
Speaker 1: a lot of people at times Pete may see him

766
00:40:08,680 --> 00:40:10,799
Speaker 1: in a game and go always playing linebacker. Now he's

767
00:40:10,800 --> 00:40:13,560
Speaker 1: in a two point stance. Well, no, he's just playing

768
00:40:13,600 --> 00:40:16,680
Speaker 1: defensive end from a two point stands, which you can't do.

769
00:40:16,840 --> 00:40:18,920
Speaker 1: And then look the old three four or four three

770
00:40:18,960 --> 00:40:21,279
Speaker 1: stuff that's out the window in your Nickel sev at

771
00:40:21,320 --> 00:40:24,320
Speaker 1: the time. Anyway, So you know all these teams like

772
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:26,640
Speaker 1: the Caroline Panthers, we're switching to a three four, Yeah

773
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: you are, but you're not gonna have seven guys on

774
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:30,520
Speaker 1: your front anymore. It's just not the way you play.

775
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:34,120
Speaker 1: So this kid's versatility, to me, is is what's important

776
00:40:34,120 --> 00:40:37,520
Speaker 1: to this defense. When they go to Nickel ideal scenario

777
00:40:37,640 --> 00:40:40,320
Speaker 1: and Nickel in the regular season, it will be Klais

778
00:40:40,520 --> 00:40:45,040
Speaker 1: Campbell and Darius inside with him at left end and

779
00:40:45,080 --> 00:40:47,640
Speaker 1: then god way it right end and that's what Yeah,

780
00:40:47,680 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: that that's right, and then you'll have uh, you'll have

781
00:40:51,320 --> 00:40:55,080
Speaker 1: McCray as the sub He'll be the next guy up

782
00:40:55,200 --> 00:40:58,320
Speaker 1: on the outside edges, and then Tavan Bryan will be

783
00:40:58,400 --> 00:41:01,120
Speaker 1: the next guy up in the middle. Two tackle positions

784
00:41:01,160 --> 00:41:05,880
Speaker 1: for that, Nick Nickel, what we call subsituation. Pretty good group, right,

785
00:41:06,280 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: that's when you come to the line of scrimmage and

786
00:41:08,239 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 1: see that for that's a good pass rushing for pretty

787
00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:14,080
Speaker 1: good I Pete. I said this before that I I

788
00:41:14,280 --> 00:41:18,479
Speaker 1: expect Josh Allen to break the Jaguars rookie sack record,

789
00:41:18,520 --> 00:41:21,360
Speaker 1: which is currently held buying gock Way. I think he

790
00:41:21,520 --> 00:41:26,160
Speaker 1: has that kind of ability and h that kind of tenacity,

791
00:41:26,320 --> 00:41:28,960
Speaker 1: and and I expect him to be able to do that,

792
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,960
Speaker 1: and I think he will. I think he's that good.

793
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:35,320
Speaker 1: So if if he breaks the rookie sack record and

794
00:41:35,400 --> 00:41:40,800
Speaker 1: Gockway gets what, here we go, Here we go Dannel eleven.

795
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:46,840
Speaker 1: I mean, if Calais gets twelve and Darius gets six,

796
00:41:47,280 --> 00:41:49,560
Speaker 1: now you're talking about a defensive line that gets you

797
00:41:49,640 --> 00:41:52,600
Speaker 1: near forty. Yeah, it's pretty good. Good, that's pretty good.

798
00:41:52,760 --> 00:41:54,439
Speaker 1: You're gonna pay some of these guys at some point.

799
00:41:55,360 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: Let's let's hope, let's hope J. P. Pete that they

800
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:00,680
Speaker 1: can get those numbers that Pete talk about that would

801
00:42:00,680 --> 00:42:03,879
Speaker 1: be is going to be down right now. I thought

802
00:42:03,960 --> 00:42:05,640
Speaker 1: you were gonna like, jump ahead, what do they do

803
00:42:05,760 --> 00:42:10,479
Speaker 1: after that happened next year? They right, you can't worry

804
00:42:10,480 --> 00:42:12,200
Speaker 1: about that now. But if you get forty out of

805
00:42:12,239 --> 00:42:14,560
Speaker 1: him this year, I'll tell you what they'll do. Cartwheels

806
00:42:14,600 --> 00:42:16,840
Speaker 1: over that. Oh buddy, that would that would be amazing.

807
00:42:16,880 --> 00:42:20,000
Speaker 1: And look, I will tell you this. Pete Duck Morons

808
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:21,759
Speaker 1: talked about it a couple of different times, and he's

809
00:42:21,760 --> 00:42:24,160
Speaker 1: talked about the pass rush ability of Marcel Darius and

810
00:42:24,239 --> 00:42:26,879
Speaker 1: he wants to see more. A couple of years ago

811
00:42:26,920 --> 00:42:30,600
Speaker 1: and we watched Marcel Darius with the Buffalo Bills. Uh man.

812
00:42:30,760 --> 00:42:34,399
Speaker 1: He was tough. He was he was a dominant pass

813
00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:37,680
Speaker 1: rusher himself. And I want to see more of what

814
00:42:37,840 --> 00:42:40,880
Speaker 1: Doug is asking for from the pass rusher standpoint, to

815
00:42:40,920 --> 00:42:43,399
Speaker 1: see him finish his pass rush. A lot of times

816
00:42:43,520 --> 00:42:46,239
Speaker 1: Marcel as a tendency to kind of quit on his

817
00:42:46,280 --> 00:42:48,160
Speaker 1: pass rush. He's got the ability to finish, and I

818
00:42:48,200 --> 00:42:50,840
Speaker 1: want to see him finish because if he finishes with

819
00:42:51,080 --> 00:42:53,719
Speaker 1: power and he gets a good get off j P.

820
00:42:54,440 --> 00:42:58,480
Speaker 1: At Alabama, he was a big strong man. At at Buffalo.

821
00:42:58,880 --> 00:43:01,359
Speaker 1: It was the same thing he looks like a man

822
00:43:01,719 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 1: among boys when he gets it cranked. He seems is

823
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:07,759
Speaker 1: he slimmer than he was last year. It seems like

824
00:43:07,840 --> 00:43:10,080
Speaker 1: he's trimmed a little bit, a little big guy, you

825
00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:11,600
Speaker 1: know what I mean, he looks good, but I mean

826
00:43:11,640 --> 00:43:13,719
Speaker 1: he looks like he's in shape. He looks like he's

827
00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,760
Speaker 1: ready to go. The Watching him in practice his stuff

828
00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:19,440
Speaker 1: against the run, he's still just so strong. I mean

829
00:43:19,600 --> 00:43:21,600
Speaker 1: he's I mean, he could have a double team and

830
00:43:21,640 --> 00:43:24,279
Speaker 1: it's and it's like he's he holds the double team off,

831
00:43:24,680 --> 00:43:26,920
Speaker 1: you know, with one hand, and then he's sipping a

832
00:43:27,000 --> 00:43:30,000
Speaker 1: coke and reading the newspaper with the other one. I mean,

833
00:43:30,080 --> 00:43:32,080
Speaker 1: he's he's got that kind of strength. I mean, just

834
00:43:32,920 --> 00:43:35,959
Speaker 1: very uncanny. I mean it's also it's also a money

835
00:43:36,040 --> 00:43:40,279
Speaker 1: year for him, true. I mean, basically he's got a

836
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,799
Speaker 1: one year deal because they got the ten million dollar

837
00:43:43,160 --> 00:43:45,319
Speaker 1: roster bonus that they'd have to pay him next year.

838
00:43:45,400 --> 00:43:47,520
Speaker 1: So this is a money year for him. So I think,

839
00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,680
Speaker 1: you know, every sack you get when you're an interior

840
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:52,879
Speaker 1: rush guy, the money goes up. So I think from

841
00:43:52,920 --> 00:43:55,719
Speaker 1: that standpoint, he should be good rushing the pastor this year.

842
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,040
Speaker 1: You bring up a great point, because if it's a

843
00:43:58,120 --> 00:44:00,200
Speaker 1: money year, when you say every sack means something, then

844
00:44:00,840 --> 00:44:04,880
Speaker 1: every sack could mean a million in future earnings for

845
00:44:05,000 --> 00:44:07,920
Speaker 1: Marcel Price if you think about it. And this is

846
00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:11,439
Speaker 1: the guy who's already had unbelievable amount of money coming

847
00:44:11,440 --> 00:44:14,000
Speaker 1: in his way in his career. Guy's the first round

848
00:44:14,040 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 1: pick before the new cb A. That's why he drives

849
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:20,799
Speaker 1: a brink struck right, and he had the free agent deal.

850
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:24,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the guy that's he's got an unbelievable by

851
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Speaker 1: fight through them. It's head coach Doug Marone today discussing

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Speaker 1: That was an interesting conversation with Doug today about yesterday's practice,

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Speaker 1: and it seemed a little smoother offensively today, so you

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Speaker 1: they learned. It seemed from that that that was the

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Speaker 1: idea of yesterday's practice was brutally hot, and what Doug

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Speaker 1: was talking about there was, you know, the conditions were

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Speaker 1: it was exceptionally hot. It was difficult to focus, and

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Speaker 1: it was a very long practice. I mean, heck, I

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Speaker 1: got tired just watching it. But but I mean, look

961
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Speaker 1: at that's the environment that the Jaguars are gonna play in.

962
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Speaker 1: And that's always had kind of a a little bit

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Speaker 1: of a mental test with myself with the heat, because

964
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Speaker 1: when you were at Jacksonville Jaguar in the early days,

965
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Speaker 1: you relished the opportunity to show an opponent that you

966
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Speaker 1: were more mentally tough than they were when it came

967
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Speaker 1: to the heat. It's a real thing. Yeah, I mean,

968
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Speaker 1: it was a real deal. I mean, we we took

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Speaker 1: pride in the fact that we were mentally tougher than

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Speaker 1: anybody in the heat, and I think in the early

971
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Speaker 1: years it showed and it was one of the few

972
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Speaker 1: things we could hang our hat on in early days, Pete,

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Speaker 1: as you knew from looking at that roster that we

974
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Speaker 1: add but uh yeah it let me let me re

975
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Speaker 1: emphasize again because in the Jaguars practice yesterday that they

976
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Speaker 1: had in this heat, the starters once again got a

977
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Speaker 1: ton of reps in practice. And again this is all

978
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Speaker 1: part of this philosophy. And that's why I don't know

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Speaker 1: how much or if the starters will play in preseason

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Speaker 1: Game number two, just because of the sheer number of

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Speaker 1: snaps that I'm seeing them take in practice yesterday and

982
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Speaker 1: in practice today. It is mentally tough for them, uh

983
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Speaker 1: as in modern day standards, and good for them. So

984
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Speaker 1: we'll see what happens on Thursday. Though. You know, it's funny.

985
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Speaker 1: I was in Green Bay the other day and it

986
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Speaker 1: was like and they were complaining about the heat, and

987
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Speaker 1: I said, you guys have no idea zero, You have

988
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Speaker 1: no idea what you're talking about when it comes to

989
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Speaker 1: the heat. Um, because that was you know, it was hot,

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Speaker 1: but not like the South, you know how the South is. Yeah,

991
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Speaker 1: that's a lot different, you know, And I think it

992
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Speaker 1: begs the other question. Look, if you're the Jaguars and

993
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Speaker 1: Doug Brons got this new philosophy that is, we're gonna

994
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Speaker 1: rest our players in the preseason, play them sparingly, and

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Speaker 1: then ready for the regular season, what's the business side

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Speaker 1: of the jack pears? Think about that to where you know,

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Speaker 1: you had a performance like you did last week in

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Speaker 1: in Baltimore and a lot of your stars didn't play

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Speaker 1: and a lot of that reason is because of that.

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Speaker 1: And so if you come out again this week and

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Speaker 1: you don't play starters again, what is that doing for

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Speaker 1: the telephones that are sitting in the ticketing office? What

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Speaker 1: is that doing for sponsorship and the opportunities that the

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Speaker 1: Jaguars have available, right, I mean that that's I agree

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Speaker 1: with you. I'd be really concerned about that if I

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Speaker 1: were I were the team and the marketing people, because

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Speaker 1: you want to see you guys want to Nobody wants

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Speaker 1: to pay that money to go see nobody playing. I

1009
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Speaker 1: got just reading through the lines. I don't know this

1010
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Speaker 1: for a fact, but reading through the lines, didn't you

1011
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Speaker 1: get the impression that Folds might not play? I mean

1012
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Speaker 1: just listening to him, well, I get thinking about that vibe,

1013
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Speaker 1: I get, well, just seeing the snaps is me the

1014
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Speaker 1: impression that there's gonna be a lot of guys this

1015
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Speaker 1: week that may not play. But I mean, maybe he's

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Speaker 1: got the next couple of days to rest him and

1017
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Speaker 1: get it ready for a game. But I don't. I

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Speaker 1: don't know, Pete, But I mean, i'm I'm I'm not

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Speaker 1: just talking about the telephones in the ticketing office when

1020
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Speaker 1: it comes to preseason games. I'm talking about the ticket

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Speaker 1: office number when it comes to the regular season. You know,

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Speaker 1: if if this were an established franchise, that has had

1023
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Speaker 1: established winning you know, doing something as drastic or not.

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Speaker 1: I wanna say drastic. Could I want to call it drastic,

1025
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Speaker 1: But doing something different in the preseason like they've done,

1026
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Speaker 1: it would be no big deal because the expectations, well,

1027
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Speaker 1: this team wins, well, this team over the last couple

1028
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Speaker 1: of years has been up and down. So but where

1029
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Speaker 1: are they at from that standpoint? You know? So? And

1030
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Speaker 1: and how are the ticket sales? I had heard they were,

1031
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Speaker 1: I don't know, interesting stuff. I mean, that's the last

1032
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Speaker 1: there was a big rush to sell tickets because they

1033
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Speaker 1: had the you know, the enthusiasm from the year before.

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Speaker 1: But um, so you're right, it matter, Jeff. It matters

1035
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Speaker 1: for other games, not just the preseason, that's right, But

1036
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Speaker 1: in the on the football decision side of things, if

1037
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Speaker 1: put guys out and get them ready for opening days. Well,

1039
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Speaker 1: and you and Pete, you know, where does that cross

1040
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Speaker 1: the line? You can't you can't have business telling the

1041
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Speaker 1: football side of things what to do, because you have

1042
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Speaker 1: to do it from the football side of things to

1043
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Speaker 1: make the best decision for your football team. And at

1044
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1045
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Speaker 1: is when the winds start to count it give you

1046
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Speaker 1: a purchase. Example, Pete, when was the last time or

1047
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Speaker 1: the only time that the Jaguars had an undefeated preseason? Sure?

1048
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Speaker 1: Do you remember they had one? Have they even had one? No?

1049
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Speaker 1: I don't. I would say no. See that's my point.

1050
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Speaker 1: Nobody nobody cares. Nobody cares about the preseason, So is

1051
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Speaker 1: it gonna care? It doesn't matter what they do now

1052
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Speaker 1: when they went when they didn't win a game. By

1053
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1054
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Speaker 1: were trying to sneak that in there, weren't you. We'll

1055
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Speaker 1: come back second hour. Your Twitter questions coming up. Tweet

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1057
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Speaker 1: little bit later. Well to this end, we're talking about

1058
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Speaker 1: Nick Foles may or may not play. We'll discuss the

1059
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Speaker 1: backup quarterbacks there play last week and what to expect

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Speaker 1: of the program. J P. Shadrick, Jeff Loghuman is in

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Speaker 1: for it. And Pete Frisco is down in South Florida

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Speaker 1: and we're always better for that too. Welcome into our

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Speaker 1: number two glad you what us your Twitter questions coming up.

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Speaker 1: You can tweet us at JP Shadrick at logs five six.

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Speaker 1: Speaking of speaking of Twitter, Chrisco CBS, Yes, we're gonna

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Speaker 1: talk about that Twitter thing. Yeah yeah, kind of crazy

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Speaker 1: the video, Yeah yeah right, So what were they Why

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Speaker 1: were they attacking the chair? That's a great question. So

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Speaker 1: there's a video It was apparently I think, on C J.

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Speaker 1: Revis's Instagram and then it was taken from the air

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Speaker 1: by some fans I think, on Twitter and put on

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Speaker 1: Twitter of some players dancing. It looked like in the

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Speaker 1: locker room and attacking a chair and then jumping somewhere

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Speaker 1: jumping on a chair, and it wasn't a good look.

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Speaker 1: But but who was it supposed to be? Who the chair? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: somebody said that somebody did chair. Somebody that used it

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Speaker 1: on Twitter said that the chair was Kaughlin. But that's

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Speaker 1: somebody's opinion, So it's not like the player put that

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Speaker 1: out there. Okay, But why would you attack a chair

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Speaker 1: in the locker room and dance around? I get I

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Speaker 1: have no idea pete um, but it wasn't It wasn't

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Speaker 1: a good look. And then in the background you see

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Speaker 1: Cam Robinson standing up on like a chair or a

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Speaker 1: sofa and you're going, wait a minute, anything on pup

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Speaker 1: not able to practice. But he's like standing up on

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Speaker 1: a couch in a in a video. Not a good look.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I'm sure that I can tell you this.

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Speaker 1: If you were a teammate of mind, you kind of

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01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:04,280
Speaker 1: look at that and go, wait a minute. Now, if

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Speaker 1: you can't practice, you shouldn't be standing on a chair,

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Speaker 1: you know, in the locker room. I mean that that's

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Speaker 1: a weird thing to happened in the locker room. Next thing,

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Speaker 1: you know, they're gonna put an accent there. But but

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Speaker 1: the good news, the good news from the video is

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Speaker 1: I don't know if the video had anything to do

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Speaker 1: with Cam Robinson practicing today, but he practiced today. So

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Speaker 1: you know, somebody on the team, somebody in the coaches

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Speaker 1: staff saw that and said, hey, Cam, you can do that,

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Speaker 1: but you can't practice. If you were, if you were

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Speaker 1: Cam's friend on the team, when you go, hey Cam, uh,

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Speaker 1: you know the video and you're not practicing, Hey man,

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Speaker 1: you gotta practice or you don't stand on the couch

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Speaker 1: or the chair, right right. I mean, if I'm whoever

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Speaker 1: put that was it, rev Us the safety put it

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Speaker 1: out right? If I'm I'm a teammate on the what

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Speaker 1: are you doing well? Let Pete, let me let me

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Speaker 1: bring this up, because I think you bring up a

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Speaker 1: great point because me and j P talked about this

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Speaker 1: and that in my opinion, that should be a fineable offense.

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Speaker 1: And I'm talking about from the team level. But as

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Speaker 1: a player, I would want if I'm a player in

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Speaker 1: the locker room, I would want C. J Rees to

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Speaker 1: get fine because I don't want somebody tweeting out or

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Speaker 1: instagramming out video out of the locker room. Because what

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Speaker 1: happens is something's in the background of the player doesn't

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Speaker 1: pay attention to it, but yet he tweets it out,

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Speaker 1: he puts it on Instagram or whatever, and it puts

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Speaker 1: a teammate in a bad light or or some former fashion. Uh,

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Speaker 1: that teammate gets called out for something that he didn't

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Speaker 1: even know was out there. I mean to me, that's

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Speaker 1: dangerous because you know, locker room time well, because the

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Speaker 1: players look the players always believe and as a player,

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Speaker 1: I always believe this look. The locker room is our place,

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Speaker 1: Okay when it's open to the media. It's open to

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Speaker 1: the media, and we have to talk to Pete and

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Speaker 1: we have to talk to John o'shure. I get that.

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Speaker 1: But when it's not open, that's a place of comfort

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Speaker 1: and privacy, not for somebody in the locker room to

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Speaker 1: be putting out videos. I can tell you that. Will

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Speaker 1: you make you that, Pete, we'll get back to. Yeah, well,

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Speaker 1: you're very strong about that. You can't you can't be

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Speaker 1: putting out video from our house. If I'm a guy

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Speaker 1: in that locker room, uh, class Campbell or a Nick

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Speaker 1: Foles or somebody. You go to C. J. Reeves and say, look,

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Speaker 1: this is our locker room, and you don't have a

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Speaker 1: right to put anything out about our locker room unless

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Speaker 1: you get our permission and our means all ninety guys

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Speaker 1: right now and once you get to the right your season, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: I thought that crossed the line. Um And if I

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Speaker 1: were a player in that locker room, I would not

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Speaker 1: be happy with that, right. No, absolutely not. That's something

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Speaker 1: that needs to be policed in the locker room by

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Speaker 1: the correct and and and then needs to be reinforced

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Speaker 1: by a fine, in my opinion, fined by the team.

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Speaker 1: But the players should be angry with him too. Absolutely,

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Speaker 1: And if that happened when you were playing. You were

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Speaker 1: a Union rep, you would have gone over to the

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Speaker 1: guy and said, hey, dude, we can't have this. In

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Speaker 1: a minute, yeah, in a minute. We go from this

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Speaker 1: topic to UH, Jaguars running back Leonard Ford, who's had

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Speaker 1: his past things around here, but so far this offseason,

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Speaker 1: he's been a good citizen in Jaguar world. Seems like

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Speaker 1: he's been good and the t A. So I wouldn't

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Speaker 1: say a great citizen. I know you said good, right,

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Speaker 1: that's probably He's done some interviews, he's done some good things.

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Speaker 1: You know. It seems like, um, he's he seems to

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Speaker 1: be involved on the sideline of the United He had

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Speaker 1: the headset on during the game, which that was the

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Speaker 1: first Jaguars game since the last game of the season

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01:06:07,440 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 1: last year when he's on the sideline on the bench.

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Speaker 1: But pete I I made a comment during the game

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Speaker 1: broadcast when it was pointed out by our sideline guy,

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Speaker 1: Rick Blue that Leonard Fournette is engaged on the sideline.

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Speaker 1: He's wearing a headset, he's talking to his teammates that

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Speaker 1: are playing, and UH and the coach and I'm going, wow,

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Speaker 1: think about the last time that we saw Leonard Fournett

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Speaker 1: on the sideline and he was not dressed and sitting

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Speaker 1: on the bench with a dress t J Yelden and

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01:06:42,400 --> 01:06:44,880
Speaker 1: the body language said, I could care less about being here,

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01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:47,680
Speaker 1: I could care less about my football team and let's

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Speaker 1: just go home. So I mean, boy, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: talk about two completely different looks for Leonard Fournette. So

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Speaker 1: but what we saw in Baltimore, I mean you got

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Speaker 1: to look at it as a positive, correct, I mean

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Speaker 1: the other way you could look absolutely, I think this

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Speaker 1: is a great stuff. You know, you too, and and

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Speaker 1: and I think aside, I'm with you, Jeff. He should

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Speaker 1: have been there for all the O T S. But

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Speaker 1: you know, you don't know what's going on in the

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Speaker 1: guy's personal life. Some stuff might happen flag, you know,

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Speaker 1: but so maybe miss a couple. But he should have

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Speaker 1: been there after everything he went through last year and

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Speaker 1: they had to talk with him, he probably should have

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Speaker 1: been there. But I think everything he's shown so far

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Speaker 1: this summer is good in the right direction, but good.

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Speaker 1: And maybe he needed the time off from the O

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Speaker 1: T A S to get rid of the bad people,

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Speaker 1: which he talked about in an article that was just

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01:07:35,840 --> 01:07:37,520
Speaker 1: put out about how he got rid of the bad

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Speaker 1: people in his life and everything that I've seen out

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Speaker 1: of him so far in training camp Pete as far

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Speaker 1: as availability, um uh, effort during practice, effort. When I'm

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Speaker 1: when I say effort during practice, I'm talking when the

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01:07:54,280 --> 01:07:57,160
Speaker 1: whistle blows and then when the whistle blows again, or

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Speaker 1: some when the ball snapped and whistle blows. He's been

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Speaker 1: during a outstanding I mean, there certain times I'd like

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Speaker 1: to see him run back to the huddle and all

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01:08:03,040 --> 01:08:06,120
Speaker 1: those kind of things. But look, I think in his

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01:08:06,240 --> 01:08:10,760
Speaker 1: catching ability he's been. He's has been really good in

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Speaker 1: camp so far. And he is a guy that I

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Speaker 1: would not want to see play in the preseason whatsoever.

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Speaker 1: Because I'm seeing the other running backs Pete and I

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Speaker 1: don't see anything close to Leonard four Nette right now. No,

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't play him at all in the preseason none,

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Speaker 1: you know, And if I have a lead runner, I'm

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Speaker 1: not playing him in the preseason no matter where you are.

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Speaker 1: I'm just not. I don't. I don't think it's worth it. Um,

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Speaker 1: he doesn't need that. I wouldn't play him at all,

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Speaker 1: and just find out what you have behind them. That's

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Speaker 1: what you use a preseason for. Figure out if any

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Speaker 1: of those guys can be the number two back. Look

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Speaker 1: the rookie ran hard a couple of times the other day.

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Speaker 1: You look, he did some nice things. Quil Armstead, Yes, yes, yeah.

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Speaker 1: He ended up in the concussion protocol pete And during

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Speaker 1: the game watching the film, he took a shot. He literally,

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Speaker 1: I mean very very physical style of running by the way,

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Speaker 1: which was impressive. And he's going through the line of

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01:09:02,479 --> 01:09:04,479
Speaker 1: scrimmage and this is the last play that I saw

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Speaker 1: that he had on film, and he gets kind of

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Speaker 1: wrapped up from the side behind and then here comes

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Speaker 1: the safety and I want to say his number was

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Speaker 1: twenty three, and he was the guy that was um

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Speaker 1: a little a little bit of a uh jerk in

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Speaker 1: practice because he was hitting guys when they didn't really

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Speaker 1: need to be hit. Well, it's game time, so you

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01:09:26,920 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: can hit. Okay, it's okay. Twenty three comes in and

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01:09:30,600 --> 01:09:35,760
Speaker 1: the crown of his helmet hits Roquil Armstead literally right

1283
01:09:35,800 --> 01:09:38,519
Speaker 1: in the chin, and you could but there was nowhere

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01:09:38,640 --> 01:09:41,799
Speaker 1: for Armstead's body to go because he had a defender

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Speaker 1: draped on his back, and so you just saw the

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01:09:44,479 --> 01:09:48,240
Speaker 1: whole head to shake and you went that was a

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01:09:48,360 --> 01:09:51,120
Speaker 1: knockout punch right there. And and I didn't see what

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01:09:51,240 --> 01:09:53,679
Speaker 1: happened after that because it's film and then the play ends.

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Speaker 1: When the play is over, you don't get to see

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01:09:55,479 --> 01:09:56,920
Speaker 1: him walk off the field or anything. And I didn't

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01:09:56,960 --> 01:10:00,160
Speaker 1: notice it during the game. So but he took a shot, now,

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01:10:00,640 --> 01:10:03,240
Speaker 1: he took it. He took a really good shot. Who

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01:10:03,960 --> 01:10:06,360
Speaker 1: you said it was from Tony Jefferson did, Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: think that's who it was. It was three three oh,

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Speaker 1: But he stroked him. Now, I mean, if you're if

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Speaker 1: you're a teammate of Tony Jefferson, you're high five and

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Speaker 1: him when he's coming off field and that one. Now, yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's a good player. Yeah, he's a good player. He's

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Speaker 1: he's uh he likes to talk a lot. Yeah, yeah, chippy.

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Speaker 1: So you mentioned the rest of the running backs here,

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Speaker 1: Alfred Blue, Thomas Rawls is back in the practice field,

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Speaker 1: DeVante Mays is out there, secondary player from Utah State.

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Speaker 1: What do you like about those guys? You said they

1304
01:10:42,360 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 1: don't they don't stand up to standard. Look, look, Armstead,

1305
01:10:46,160 --> 01:10:48,400
Speaker 1: I like him because he's got a physical style of

1306
01:10:48,479 --> 01:10:53,759
Speaker 1: running the football and uh, he's very efficient with his feet.

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Speaker 1: He gets north and South. I don't like his catching

1308
01:10:56,600 --> 01:10:59,559
Speaker 1: ability now in camp so far, he when he's been

1309
01:10:59,600 --> 01:11:01,400
Speaker 1: out there, and obviously he's not practicing right now, but

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01:11:01,479 --> 01:11:03,320
Speaker 1: when he's been out there, he's shown the ability to

1311
01:11:03,439 --> 01:11:06,519
Speaker 1: catch the ball. But he's had like two drops was all,

1312
01:11:06,680 --> 01:11:08,560
Speaker 1: which is kind of surprising because when you turned on

1313
01:11:08,640 --> 01:11:11,599
Speaker 1: his college tape it wasn't very good. I'm I'm talking

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01:11:11,640 --> 01:11:15,280
Speaker 1: about just his catching ability, So I hope that this

1315
01:11:15,479 --> 01:11:17,080
Speaker 1: is something that he can just get better at and

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01:11:17,160 --> 01:11:19,800
Speaker 1: improve that. But I mean, once you get past him,

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01:11:20,080 --> 01:11:23,280
Speaker 1: Alfred Blue is kind of a kind of a I

1318
01:11:23,320 --> 01:11:25,240
Speaker 1: don't want to say slow, but he's kind of a

1319
01:11:25,360 --> 01:11:28,120
Speaker 1: long strider. So he kind of gives you the gives you.

1320
01:11:28,479 --> 01:11:30,640
Speaker 1: He gives you the impression that he's slow, but he's not.

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01:11:30,800 --> 01:11:33,680
Speaker 1: He's a glider, he's not. He's not sudden, but he's

1322
01:11:33,720 --> 01:11:36,720
Speaker 1: a big body. I think he's an okay backup and

1323
01:11:36,720 --> 01:11:39,280
Speaker 1: he's a guy that you can trust because he's put

1324
01:11:39,400 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: some time in with Houston Texans. But besides those three guys,

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01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:46,439
Speaker 1: I mean, okay, I mean Thomas Rawls got a pep

1326
01:11:46,479 --> 01:11:51,200
Speaker 1: and his step a great special teams effort guy. Uh

1327
01:11:51,439 --> 01:11:54,120
Speaker 1: coming back from what appeared to be an injured hamstring.

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01:11:54,160 --> 01:11:55,920
Speaker 1: I remember watching him when he when he appeared to

1329
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:58,920
Speaker 1: pull his hamstring. So far he's looked good since he's

1330
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:02,320
Speaker 1: been back. Um. But but I mean, okay, I mean

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01:12:02,760 --> 01:12:07,040
Speaker 1: they might they might address that position after the cuts. Maybe, yeah,

1332
01:12:07,280 --> 01:12:09,320
Speaker 1: they might, they might address that when you look at

1333
01:12:09,360 --> 01:12:11,680
Speaker 1: the cuts that are coming. You know, some of these

1334
01:12:11,720 --> 01:12:14,680
Speaker 1: teams have these young backs that they found, and you

1335
01:12:14,800 --> 01:12:17,240
Speaker 1: might find the guy off the cuts that it could

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01:12:17,320 --> 01:12:21,280
Speaker 1: end up being on that roster. You could. I think

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01:12:21,320 --> 01:12:24,320
Speaker 1: you're you're not gonna be. I think you're gonna be

1338
01:12:24,360 --> 01:12:27,120
Speaker 1: like a three running back roster. I don't see them

1339
01:12:27,320 --> 01:12:30,080
Speaker 1: keeping more than three. Well, you would keep were you

1340
01:12:30,120 --> 01:12:32,760
Speaker 1: figure gonna keep Fornet in Armstead for sure, So for

1341
01:12:32,920 --> 01:12:36,800
Speaker 1: net Armstead Alfred Blue, that's my expectation. But if you

1342
01:12:36,880 --> 01:12:40,080
Speaker 1: found somebody other than Blue, you might get rid of

1343
01:12:40,120 --> 01:12:42,200
Speaker 1: Blue and bring that guy in well. And and if

1344
01:12:42,720 --> 01:12:46,080
Speaker 1: if you keep another guy, it's got to be somebody

1345
01:12:46,160 --> 01:12:49,640
Speaker 1: that's gonna be really good on special teams. And right now,

1346
01:12:50,000 --> 01:12:53,120
Speaker 1: the guy that seems to be the committed the most

1347
01:12:53,200 --> 01:12:55,680
Speaker 1: of special teams is Thomas Rawls. I mean he gets it.

1348
01:12:55,760 --> 01:12:57,519
Speaker 1: I mean usually the guys that are in the league

1349
01:12:57,520 --> 01:13:00,400
Speaker 1: for a little while that are bubble type positional players.

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01:13:00,920 --> 01:13:03,679
Speaker 1: They figured it out. Rowls is in his fourth year,

1351
01:13:03,760 --> 01:13:05,720
Speaker 1: he's been through this, He's figured it out. I mean, look,

1352
01:13:05,760 --> 01:13:08,760
Speaker 1: I mean, here's the reality. All these guys come from

1353
01:13:08,840 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: college and we're stars wherever they were at right to

1354
01:13:14,320 --> 01:13:17,280
Speaker 1: I mean, to some extent made different levels of stars obviously,

1355
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Speaker 1: But when you come into the National Football League, if

1356
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Speaker 1: you're not the first or the second team on the

1357
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Speaker 1: depth chart, guess what your Your status on the rosters

1358
01:13:25,960 --> 01:13:28,639
Speaker 1: determined by whether or not you can play special teams.

1359
01:13:29,360 --> 01:13:32,080
Speaker 1: So you get to the third or fourth running back JP,

1360
01:13:33,280 --> 01:13:36,360
Speaker 1: can you play special teams? That's the first question. As

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Speaker 1: a safety, the third safety has got to be a

1362
01:13:38,960 --> 01:13:41,759
Speaker 1: quality starter if he has to take over for injury.

1363
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Speaker 1: But the fourth and and maybe fifth safety, if you

1364
01:13:45,360 --> 01:13:51,800
Speaker 1: keep five, guess what can you play special teams? Receivers

1365
01:13:51,840 --> 01:13:53,760
Speaker 1: the same thing. Are you gonna keep five and six? Well,

1366
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Speaker 1: five and six better be able to play special teams?

1367
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Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that is

1368
01:13:59,360 --> 01:14:02,360
Speaker 1: could passably end up hurting. Uh. The guy that I

1369
01:14:02,439 --> 01:14:07,400
Speaker 1: was so excited about, Pete Tyree Brady, because in the ballgame,

1370
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Speaker 1: Tyree Brady didn't show a willingness to play special team.

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Speaker 1: But this is number nineteen, the wide receiver. Yes, rookie

1372
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Speaker 1: from Marshall. But Tray McBride ready to go on special

1373
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Speaker 1: teams now, fourth year player from William and Mary. Well, Yes,

1374
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Speaker 1: when you watched him on special teams, Tray McBride was

1375
01:14:26,040 --> 01:14:29,599
Speaker 1: ready to go now on special team. So you talk about,

1376
01:14:29,760 --> 01:14:32,120
Speaker 1: you know, the excitement of where you put guys kind

1377
01:14:32,160 --> 01:14:34,519
Speaker 1: of in the pecking order, at least how I do

1378
01:14:34,640 --> 01:14:36,760
Speaker 1: in my mind, Well that changes once you get to

1379
01:14:36,760 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: see live special teams and guys start. Now you gotta

1380
01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:42,080
Speaker 1: re rank them in trade. Mc bride right now has

1381
01:14:42,400 --> 01:14:44,600
Speaker 1: has gone up a couple of notches. Pete ready to

1382
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:47,760
Speaker 1: cut the team tonight. I think Logs is ready. I'm

1383
01:14:47,760 --> 01:14:51,000
Speaker 1: always ready to cut the team. You know funny because

1384
01:14:51,000 --> 01:14:53,760
Speaker 1: I stand at practices JP for every team and I

1385
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Speaker 1: watch these guys. There are twenty of them right now

1386
01:14:57,000 --> 01:14:58,880
Speaker 1: who know they're not making the team. They know they

1387
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Speaker 1: have no shot now they don't No, they don't know. No,

1388
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Speaker 1: they don't know, Pete, they really don't. I mean, there's

1389
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Speaker 1: a couple of guys that know that they're not making

1390
01:15:07,760 --> 01:15:10,640
Speaker 1: this team, but the majority of the guys that are

1391
01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:13,240
Speaker 1: here that are not going to make the team think

1392
01:15:13,520 --> 01:15:18,000
Speaker 1: that they should make a team. Because if you didn't

1393
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1394
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1395
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1396
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1398
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Speaker 1: coming up Thursday, presented by pet Paradise. Before you go

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Speaker 1: any further, we have to say a very special happy

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Speaker 1: birthday to Joe Fortunado, our manager of radio. How old

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Speaker 1: are you Joe today? Eighty years old. It's a miracle,

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Speaker 1: sixty one and he wears it well, sexy as ever. Wow. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that's a little far, but that's okay whatever. He's my

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Speaker 1: guy man, because our guy man. He's a great he's

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Speaker 1: he's a great guy, one of my boys. Man. How

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Speaker 1: many years we've been working together, Joe? Long time? Long time?

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Speaker 1: We hope we worked together for quite a bit more time.

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Speaker 1: A long time, that's right. So to Portonado, we make

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Speaker 1: it cut. Sixty one years young today and he's responsible

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Speaker 1: for all the sounds that you hear. Everything that you

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01:20:48,360 --> 01:20:51,880
Speaker 1: hear is uh, it's through something he's pushed or pulled

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01:20:51,960 --> 01:20:53,800
Speaker 1: up on the board or whatever it is. That's that's

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01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,280
Speaker 1: Joe fortune man. He makes it happy. That is right,

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01:20:56,520 --> 01:21:00,759
Speaker 1: So happy birthday. He makes he makes me look good.

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01:21:01,280 --> 01:21:05,360
Speaker 1: And all the the recorded stuff sound good, not look good.

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01:21:05,840 --> 01:21:10,479
Speaker 1: Well it's radio. Same thing, no, sound literally not the

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01:21:10,600 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: same thing. It is different. And the reason I say

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01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:18,840
Speaker 1: that is he is a masterful editor. Sound. I need

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01:21:19,600 --> 01:21:22,519
Speaker 1: editing every once in a while. I'm not like you,

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01:21:22,680 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 1: j P. I'm not like I'm not gonna take take

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:31,360
Speaker 1: pony from it from Pete knows all about that. Yez,

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01:21:32,200 --> 01:21:34,320
Speaker 1: you can. He can make you look good on radio.

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Speaker 1: Sound good at radio? Is not making look good on TV?

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Speaker 1: Thos high definition, Pete, What are you trying to say,

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Speaker 1: Pete got a face for radio? Is that I'll take it. Hey, look,

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Speaker 1: I'm still on TV right yeah, right now, and you're

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01:21:52,800 --> 01:21:57,920
Speaker 1: on the best part TV. Now. Is that JP does

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01:21:58,000 --> 01:22:01,559
Speaker 1: all my my pre television makeup. No, that is not accurate,

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01:22:01,560 --> 01:22:04,880
Speaker 1: because JP is so talented at makeup. Jack. I sit

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01:22:04,920 --> 01:22:07,240
Speaker 1: down in front of JP and he does my makeup

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01:22:07,280 --> 01:22:10,439
Speaker 1: for TV. That's inaccurate. But I do need a lot myself.

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01:22:10,479 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: I mean, now you do a great job with you

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01:22:12,960 --> 01:22:15,479
Speaker 1: need to fix that gray here and your beard for

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01:22:15,560 --> 01:22:19,559
Speaker 1: a fact, So happy birthday, Joe. That started our conversation here,

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01:22:20,120 --> 01:22:22,640
Speaker 1: Sie you believe that. No, Hey, Joe looks good for

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01:22:22,720 --> 01:22:24,400
Speaker 1: sixty one. I'm gonna give a lot of credit for that.

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01:22:25,120 --> 01:22:27,439
Speaker 1: Now he's like lost some weight lately. You know he's

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Speaker 1: I like it. Yeah, you're gonna have about thirty more

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Speaker 1: years because you know how it's Italian guys. We left forever. Hey,

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Speaker 1: let's let's move to the quarterback room. We've heard from

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01:22:40,160 --> 01:22:42,479
Speaker 1: Nick Foles earlier in the program here, and you get

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01:22:42,560 --> 01:22:46,479
Speaker 1: the feeling that he might not play Thursday night. Um,

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01:22:47,280 --> 01:22:49,840
Speaker 1: the other night it was Gardnerman shoe through for what

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01:22:50,000 --> 01:22:53,800
Speaker 1: forty three yards in the game, Tanner Lee the first

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01:22:53,920 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: drive was sacked twice and then threw a pick six

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01:22:57,320 --> 01:23:00,240
Speaker 1: and Alex Magoo came in. It wasn't so good, wasn't

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01:23:00,280 --> 01:23:02,520
Speaker 1: as good. It wasn't great either. He threw an interception

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01:23:02,600 --> 01:23:06,080
Speaker 1: as well. Um, they're gonna get reps obviously, Pete, you

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01:23:06,160 --> 01:23:09,200
Speaker 1: know where is this? I mean, men, she was their guy.

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01:23:09,320 --> 01:23:11,840
Speaker 1: I think right now as a backup, it feels like well,

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01:23:11,880 --> 01:23:13,760
Speaker 1: I mean, he can't evaluate him off of that thing

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01:23:13,920 --> 01:23:16,479
Speaker 1: the other night. I mean, my gosh, they played he

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01:23:16,560 --> 01:23:19,439
Speaker 1: played the first team defense. He had a bad offensive

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01:23:19,479 --> 01:23:22,040
Speaker 1: line in front of him, but his arm didn't look

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01:23:22,160 --> 01:23:25,599
Speaker 1: very good the other night. Now, you know from watching

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01:23:25,680 --> 01:23:28,160
Speaker 1: him in practice when I was there and then hearing

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01:23:28,240 --> 01:23:30,960
Speaker 1: things about him that was, Yeah, he doesn't have a

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01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:33,519
Speaker 1: great art, but that was worse than normal I thought,

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01:23:33,760 --> 01:23:36,840
Speaker 1: and and so that's a concern. But it's too hard

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01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,120
Speaker 1: to evaluate him based on what we saw last last Thursday.

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01:23:40,240 --> 01:23:42,280
Speaker 1: No way. Well, and he's a rookie. It's the first

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01:23:43,000 --> 01:23:45,439
Speaker 1: action that he's ever had in a preseason game. So

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01:23:46,600 --> 01:23:49,760
Speaker 1: I mean, look, you evaluate where the Broncos were at

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01:23:49,840 --> 01:23:52,120
Speaker 1: with Drew lock and his first preseason game, and it

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01:23:52,240 --> 01:23:56,519
Speaker 1: came away how that game totally under impressed and so um,

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01:23:57,040 --> 01:23:59,439
Speaker 1: look at you give Minshew a pass. That's the first

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01:23:59,520 --> 01:24:04,760
Speaker 1: game ever. But you also evaluate certain things within that performance.

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01:24:04,960 --> 01:24:08,160
Speaker 1: You don't evaluate the overall and come to a final conclusion.

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01:24:08,640 --> 01:24:11,000
Speaker 1: Some of the things you evaluate. He got hit in

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01:24:11,040 --> 01:24:14,280
Speaker 1: the mouth after he dropped the ball and then picked

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01:24:14,320 --> 01:24:19,320
Speaker 1: it up and got stroked, I mean stroked. He comes

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01:24:19,400 --> 01:24:22,840
Speaker 1: back a couple of plays later, he's got a unblocked

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01:24:22,920 --> 01:24:26,960
Speaker 1: defender bearing down on him. He stands in there and

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01:24:27,080 --> 01:24:30,680
Speaker 1: he delivers a nice throw. Positive. That's a positive thing.

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01:24:30,840 --> 01:24:33,679
Speaker 1: That's nice to see. Okay, So he's got a little

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01:24:33,800 --> 01:24:36,760
Speaker 1: toughness about him. You like that. The other thing you

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01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:40,160
Speaker 1: evaluate a couple out routes didn't seem to have the

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01:24:40,320 --> 01:24:45,479
Speaker 1: arm strength. Now is that arm strength or is that footwork? Well,

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01:24:45,640 --> 01:24:48,040
Speaker 1: we go back and you watch the film. You could

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01:24:48,040 --> 01:24:49,960
Speaker 1: have seen that maybe the footwork could have been a

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01:24:50,040 --> 01:24:51,960
Speaker 1: little bit better, a little bit cleaner. So is it

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01:24:52,200 --> 01:24:55,639
Speaker 1: arm or is it feet? I don't know the answer

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01:24:55,720 --> 01:24:58,000
Speaker 1: that that for sure, But if it continues to show,

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01:24:58,560 --> 01:25:01,360
Speaker 1: it doesn't matter whether it's the armor the feet, because

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01:25:01,400 --> 01:25:05,040
Speaker 1: the end result is not good enough. So I want

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01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,640
Speaker 1: to see more out of him. I do know this,

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01:25:08,400 --> 01:25:12,120
Speaker 1: And I think feet were a problem. And and so

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01:25:13,360 --> 01:25:16,200
Speaker 1: when you get a little jumpy and you get pressured

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01:25:16,320 --> 01:25:18,280
Speaker 1: up the middle and you get hit a bunch your

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01:25:18,320 --> 01:25:22,040
Speaker 1: feet kind of you got bad habits. And I think

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Speaker 1: that's what it was. That's why I think it's so

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01:25:23,720 --> 01:25:25,960
Speaker 1: hard to evaluate him. Doesn't mean he's always going to

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01:25:26,040 --> 01:25:28,719
Speaker 1: do that, but you mentioned it jet first start line.

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01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:32,200
Speaker 1: The whole deal. Sometimes those habits get away from you.

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01:25:32,320 --> 01:25:34,439
Speaker 1: So I want to see how he does kind of

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01:25:34,479 --> 01:25:38,080
Speaker 1: going forward, and I play him more this week with

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01:25:38,240 --> 01:25:40,960
Speaker 1: the with the guys, the good players who do play,

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01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:44,639
Speaker 1: that's what I would do. Well, you did that last week,

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01:25:45,280 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: you continue to do it again. So if but who

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01:25:48,600 --> 01:25:51,439
Speaker 1: played nobody played well, I mean, if Doug Maron chooses

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01:25:51,520 --> 01:25:55,000
Speaker 1: to go the same route this week, then you're gonna

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01:25:55,120 --> 01:25:59,320
Speaker 1: have a second team offense against a number one Philadelphia

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01:25:59,320 --> 01:26:01,920
Speaker 1: Eagles defense, which, by the way, Jim Schwartz likes to

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01:26:01,960 --> 01:26:07,479
Speaker 1: bring a lot of pressure. Hello, Hello, So it's gonna

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01:26:07,520 --> 01:26:10,839
Speaker 1: be ah, that will be a challenge for the backups

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01:26:10,880 --> 01:26:13,960
Speaker 1: of the Jaguars and Garniment she's gotta be able to

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01:26:14,000 --> 01:26:17,240
Speaker 1: handle it. And you hope that you have a little

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01:26:17,240 --> 01:26:19,960
Speaker 1: bit more health going into the game because you had

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01:26:20,000 --> 01:26:23,360
Speaker 1: what was that eighteen guys that were scratched. There's eighteen

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01:26:23,439 --> 01:26:27,360
Speaker 1: or sixteen. It's eighteen because the decision and then it

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01:26:27,479 --> 01:26:30,519
Speaker 1: was like fourteen others due to but enough changing because

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01:26:31,439 --> 01:26:38,439
Speaker 1: play and there were sixteen and fourteen. Okay, so let's

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01:26:38,439 --> 01:26:43,080
Speaker 1: say you still have sixteen on coaches decision ballpark. Well,

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01:26:43,160 --> 01:26:47,000
Speaker 1: you hope that that fourteen number drops a little bit,

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01:26:47,640 --> 01:26:50,840
Speaker 1: but right now the way it's looking with with some

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01:26:51,000 --> 01:26:53,800
Speaker 1: of the players that are out of practice, Uh, it's

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01:26:53,840 --> 01:26:56,479
Speaker 1: not it's gonna be significant, but I don't know if

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01:26:56,520 --> 01:26:58,519
Speaker 1: it'll be fourteen, but it's still gonna be pretty good.

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01:26:59,600 --> 01:27:02,600
Speaker 1: What do you think of his arm, Jeff? Al Right?

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01:27:02,640 --> 01:27:03,960
Speaker 1: I mean, like I said, Pete, I mean the end

1595
01:27:04,000 --> 01:27:06,960
Speaker 1: result was that the arm the ball didn't get there

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01:27:07,600 --> 01:27:12,320
Speaker 1: fast enough or on target enough or with enough velocity velocity,

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01:27:12,560 --> 01:27:14,920
Speaker 1: So is that are like I said, is that armor?

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01:27:14,960 --> 01:27:17,479
Speaker 1: Is that feat Well, I have a tendency to think

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01:27:17,560 --> 01:27:21,280
Speaker 1: that it was arm strength. But if a player has

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01:27:21,360 --> 01:27:24,080
Speaker 1: good for work and an anticipation, he can be a

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01:27:24,280 --> 01:27:26,920
Speaker 1: very good quarterback in the National Football League if they

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01:27:27,000 --> 01:27:30,320
Speaker 1: have the mind to anticipate the thrones and the positive

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01:27:30,400 --> 01:27:32,120
Speaker 1: thing that I'm hearing and I talked talked to a

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01:27:32,200 --> 01:27:34,719
Speaker 1: couple of personnel guys while we were in Baltimore. Pete,

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01:27:35,640 --> 01:27:40,960
Speaker 1: he is Gardner Minshew, the highest scoring quarterback that they've

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01:27:41,000 --> 01:27:44,280
Speaker 1: ever seen on the intelligence tests that they give it

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01:27:44,360 --> 01:27:50,160
Speaker 1: the combine. That's a good song. Yeah, I mean he's

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01:27:50,400 --> 01:27:53,360
Speaker 1: he's a smart kid. If you watch him play at

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01:27:53,760 --> 01:27:55,400
Speaker 1: Washington State, I mean he knew where to go with

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01:27:55,479 --> 01:27:57,320
Speaker 1: the football all the time he's and it's not like

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01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,479
Speaker 1: it's not like he was dinking and duncan now. I mean,

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01:27:59,560 --> 01:28:02,360
Speaker 1: he threw for more yards at the FBS level per

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01:28:02,479 --> 01:28:07,640
Speaker 1: game than anybody in the nation last year, and that

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01:28:07,840 --> 01:28:11,679
Speaker 1: offense is complicated at times. Give him, give him time,

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01:28:11,760 --> 01:28:13,880
Speaker 1: and let's give him another chance. And you know, he's

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01:28:13,920 --> 01:28:16,519
Speaker 1: a young player, you know he's could that have been

1617
01:28:16,520 --> 01:28:18,920
Speaker 1: a little camp fatigue too, I mean, two weeks into camp,

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01:28:19,600 --> 01:28:21,479
Speaker 1: every day you're throwing a bunch, you know, I mean

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01:28:21,520 --> 01:28:22,760
Speaker 1: it could have been a lot of things. Could have

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01:28:22,840 --> 01:28:26,400
Speaker 1: been first game jitters, could have been you know, you

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01:28:26,600 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: name it. You know. So, like I said, it's one game.

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01:28:30,240 --> 01:28:33,760
Speaker 1: Let's let's not overreact and come to final conclusions on

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01:28:33,920 --> 01:28:37,400
Speaker 1: anything about this team or individual players until we see more.

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01:28:38,400 --> 01:28:41,160
Speaker 1: And and it's always unfair to the quarterback in that situation.

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01:28:41,600 --> 01:28:45,160
Speaker 1: It's hard, you can't really cannot evaluate him. But Jeff,

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01:28:45,520 --> 01:28:48,040
Speaker 1: they didn't get the midfeet. They got the midfield once. Yeah,

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01:28:48,040 --> 01:28:50,200
Speaker 1: they got to the forty nine of the Ravens one

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01:28:50,280 --> 01:28:52,160
Speaker 1: play and then got moved back to the fifty the

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01:28:52,240 --> 01:28:54,000
Speaker 1: next That's correct. That's as deep as they got. The

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01:28:54,080 --> 01:28:56,400
Speaker 1: punter had I think like three hundred and sixty yards

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01:28:56,479 --> 01:28:59,120
Speaker 1: punting Pete. The offense had a hundred and twelve yards

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01:28:59,160 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 1: of total offense net, and I think they had a

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01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:05,760
Speaker 1: hundred nine yards and penalties. You gotta figure they're gonna

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01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:07,760
Speaker 1: have at least one accident play where you get at

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01:29:07,840 --> 01:29:12,640
Speaker 1: least their territory didn't happen. That was that was a

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01:29:12,720 --> 01:29:16,280
Speaker 1: tough night. Pete didn't happen. Let's come back. We'll get

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01:29:16,360 --> 01:29:20,960
Speaker 1: some Twitter questions. They're rolling in on the Twitter tonight.

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01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,240
Speaker 1: All right, that's not how you say it, but I

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01:29:23,320 --> 01:29:25,920
Speaker 1: just said it right way, rolling in on Twitter. Um,

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01:29:26,040 --> 01:29:28,479
Speaker 1: I said the Twitter rolling in on Twitter, I think

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01:29:28,560 --> 01:29:30,240
Speaker 1: is active. Yeah, I was trying to help you out.

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01:29:30,320 --> 01:29:33,280
Speaker 1: Thanks man, appreciate that. We'll get to those coming up.

1643
01:29:33,320 --> 01:29:35,920
Speaker 1: We'll go around the league as well, including a Dallas

1644
01:29:36,040 --> 01:29:40,160
Speaker 1: quarterback that wants more money Arena. We're gonna go to

1645
01:29:40,240 --> 01:29:44,360
Speaker 1: that nut job and with the Raiders him too. Antonio

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Speaker 1: Jeff Loguman, Tone Tony Boselli's out almost said he was here.

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Speaker 1: He's not here. Pete Presco is here though he's down

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Speaker 1: in South Florida. Glad you're with us tonight. We've gone

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Speaker 1: through the show and you've messed that up. Yeah, you know,

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Speaker 1: come on, JP, I'm right here beside your brother. I'm

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Speaker 1: glad you are. Thank you. I don't look like no,

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Speaker 1: thank God, I appreciate that. Let's get to your Twitter

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01:33:37,400 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: questions tonight. Um, we're doing a different way this year.

1712
01:33:40,520 --> 01:33:43,760
Speaker 1: Used to be the Tony Basselli Twitter questions, but you know,

1713
01:33:43,800 --> 01:33:48,240
Speaker 1: we're just changing it just because because we can open

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01:33:48,280 --> 01:33:49,880
Speaker 1: it up to everybody. So you're gonna make it the

1715
01:33:49,920 --> 01:33:53,599
Speaker 1: Pete Twitter questions. Yeah, the Pete Prisco Twitter questions tonight.

1716
01:33:53,600 --> 01:33:56,439
Speaker 1: I don't like Tony even happier. There's a couple that

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01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,080
Speaker 1: are just to you tonight logs, but that's okay. Here's

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01:33:59,080 --> 01:34:02,920
Speaker 1: the first one from do Good. Not many bright spots

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01:34:02,960 --> 01:34:06,639
Speaker 1: in the first preseason game. Thanks do Good. But who

1720
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:11,479
Speaker 1: do you think shined the most for the Jacksonville Jaguars. Pete,

1721
01:34:11,520 --> 01:34:18,400
Speaker 1: you want to start us on this one? Uh No,

1722
01:34:18,600 --> 01:34:21,560
Speaker 1: it's not tough. C J. Revis. He he had a

1723
01:34:21,680 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 1: really nice yes, but Pete, he took a step back

1724
01:34:26,439 --> 01:34:28,400
Speaker 1: when he released a video from locker room. You know,

1725
01:34:28,479 --> 01:34:31,920
Speaker 1: so you gained all this traction and in our eyes

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01:34:32,080 --> 01:34:34,400
Speaker 1: and then you do something like that, so it dropped back.

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01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:38,759
Speaker 1: I'll give him that, yes revis I think he played

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01:34:38,800 --> 01:34:41,080
Speaker 1: well enough Pete to say that, you know, you've got

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01:34:41,160 --> 01:34:44,160
Speaker 1: two young starting safeties. Did he do enough to get

1730
01:34:44,200 --> 01:34:48,080
Speaker 1: in a conversation for maybe vying for a starting job

1731
01:34:48,760 --> 01:34:51,240
Speaker 1: starting like over those two I'm just saying, is that

1732
01:34:51,560 --> 01:34:53,800
Speaker 1: Dug Moron made the point that he talked about because

1733
01:34:53,840 --> 01:34:56,280
Speaker 1: he was asked the question about if you're not playing guys,

1734
01:34:56,680 --> 01:34:58,800
Speaker 1: how do you determine who's gonna start? And he made

1735
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,240
Speaker 1: a comment that if somebody is playing and they play

1736
01:35:02,320 --> 01:35:05,120
Speaker 1: well enough to catch your eye, then you have to

1737
01:35:05,240 --> 01:35:07,840
Speaker 1: open up the conversation again about who the starter should be.

1738
01:35:09,240 --> 01:35:11,000
Speaker 1: Because his was a name that was mentioned to me

1739
01:35:11,200 --> 01:35:13,599
Speaker 1: very early in the process as a kid that they

1740
01:35:13,800 --> 01:35:16,920
Speaker 1: thought had a chance to push. I don't think he's

1741
01:35:16,920 --> 01:35:19,680
Speaker 1: going to push for a starting job now, but if

1742
01:35:19,720 --> 01:35:23,160
Speaker 1: somebody struggles there midway through the season, you might be

1743
01:35:23,320 --> 01:35:26,519
Speaker 1: looking at him as a guy. Anyway, it was nice

1744
01:35:26,560 --> 01:35:29,720
Speaker 1: to see him play well and it also gives them

1745
01:35:29,920 --> 01:35:32,680
Speaker 1: some some good depth. You hope that trend continues with

1746
01:35:32,840 --> 01:35:35,240
Speaker 1: his level of play, And I will say that after

1747
01:35:35,320 --> 01:35:38,160
Speaker 1: watching him in training camp, I don't know if anybody

1748
01:35:38,200 --> 01:35:42,080
Speaker 1: works harder than he does in special special teams drills.

1749
01:35:42,560 --> 01:35:45,200
Speaker 1: He is committed and he gets it. He understands that

1750
01:35:45,320 --> 01:35:48,599
Speaker 1: special teams are important to him. Well, okay, but if

1751
01:35:48,640 --> 01:35:50,879
Speaker 1: you had to make a change in one of those safeties,

1752
01:35:51,280 --> 01:35:56,200
Speaker 1: isn't gonna be Harrison. Well let's see how they play Pete.

1753
01:35:56,200 --> 01:35:59,360
Speaker 1: I mean, look, I mean, Harson's draft pick. And if

1754
01:35:59,400 --> 01:36:02,360
Speaker 1: you if I'm gonna do what I do to Tony,

1755
01:36:02,439 --> 01:36:05,480
Speaker 1: to you, Jeff, put you on the spot. You're suggesting

1756
01:36:05,520 --> 01:36:08,679
Speaker 1: that he's pushing for time. He's got to be pushing Wilson. Okay,

1757
01:36:08,760 --> 01:36:10,519
Speaker 1: I think you could push either guy. I mean, look,

1758
01:36:10,760 --> 01:36:13,360
Speaker 1: neither one of these guys has shown that there Ed Reid.

1759
01:36:13,439 --> 01:36:16,240
Speaker 1: I mean, come on, I mean one of them gets

1760
01:36:16,280 --> 01:36:20,240
Speaker 1: more respect. Ronny Harrison gets more respect because he's a

1761
01:36:20,320 --> 01:36:23,400
Speaker 1: draft pick. Jared Wilson it probably doesn't get hardly any

1762
01:36:23,479 --> 01:36:26,960
Speaker 1: respect because he was an undrafted free agent rookie. But look,

1763
01:36:27,000 --> 01:36:28,840
Speaker 1: he's a good football player, I mean good enough to

1764
01:36:29,000 --> 01:36:32,720
Speaker 1: let too. Seawan Gibson go alright, good enough to let

1765
01:36:33,320 --> 01:36:37,720
Speaker 1: problem to a young safety nipping. Look, I just say this,

1766
01:36:38,240 --> 01:36:40,680
Speaker 1: Neither one of the safeties have have done it for

1767
01:36:40,720 --> 01:36:43,479
Speaker 1: a season to where they've shown that they are a

1768
01:36:43,680 --> 01:36:46,320
Speaker 1: stud safety. So if you have a young guy that's

1769
01:36:46,360 --> 01:36:49,160
Speaker 1: showing himself that he's a good football player, looking, and

1770
01:36:49,280 --> 01:36:52,639
Speaker 1: what's wrong with having a little a little pressure put

1771
01:36:52,720 --> 01:36:55,120
Speaker 1: on guys that are expected starters by the head coach

1772
01:36:55,160 --> 01:36:57,320
Speaker 1: saying you know that's c J. Reevers. You know he's

1773
01:36:57,320 --> 01:36:59,840
Speaker 1: playing pretty well. Now, maybe he's one of those guys

1774
01:37:00,080 --> 01:37:02,479
Speaker 1: that I talked about before that could be pushing first

1775
01:37:02,520 --> 01:37:06,920
Speaker 1: starting job. What do the other two guys goat, Uh,

1776
01:37:07,280 --> 01:37:11,040
Speaker 1: he's a special team or twenty two to Cody Davis

1777
01:37:11,600 --> 01:37:15,639
Speaker 1: veteran players seventh year, that's your special And that goes

1778
01:37:15,720 --> 01:37:18,679
Speaker 1: to show you that that is a is a decision

1779
01:37:18,840 --> 01:37:22,120
Speaker 1: made purely based on special teams. Well, he was signed

1780
01:37:22,160 --> 01:37:26,200
Speaker 1: here based on specialty, absolutely, But I mean there's positions

1781
01:37:26,320 --> 01:37:29,439
Speaker 1: that are that are like that more than just at safety.

1782
01:37:29,840 --> 01:37:32,799
Speaker 1: The fourth safety spot is going to be a special

1783
01:37:32,840 --> 01:37:39,200
Speaker 1: teams consideration. The five and six linebacking positions. If there

1784
01:37:39,320 --> 01:37:41,559
Speaker 1: is a six, if you've got enough quality depth there

1785
01:37:41,880 --> 01:37:46,439
Speaker 1: are going to be special teams determined positions. McCray a.

1786
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:51,240
Speaker 1: A third team rush end is gonna be a special

1787
01:37:51,320 --> 01:37:54,639
Speaker 1: team's decision. Tight end. When you get to the third

1788
01:37:54,760 --> 01:37:58,360
Speaker 1: tight end and the fourth tight end, special team's decisions.

1789
01:37:58,760 --> 01:38:01,040
Speaker 1: You know, there's about five, we were six spots on

1790
01:38:01,160 --> 01:38:04,160
Speaker 1: your roster that when you start to say, oh, who

1791
01:38:04,240 --> 01:38:09,280
Speaker 1: are we going to keep at safety, cornerback, tight end, linebacker.

1792
01:38:09,960 --> 01:38:12,600
Speaker 1: Uh am I missing any positions, fullback maybe if you

1793
01:38:12,680 --> 01:38:15,559
Speaker 1: have a fullback, but all those positions right there, there's

1794
01:38:15,600 --> 01:38:19,479
Speaker 1: decisions at at those at those positions in backup roles

1795
01:38:19,600 --> 01:38:24,880
Speaker 1: that are special teams determined. First. That's it. So maybe

1796
01:38:24,960 --> 01:38:29,639
Speaker 1: five or six positions three man roster, our positional players,

1797
01:38:30,120 --> 01:38:33,160
Speaker 1: but special teams quality level of play is what determines

1798
01:38:33,280 --> 01:38:35,439
Speaker 1: who's going to get those six spots. Well, well, I

1799
01:38:35,479 --> 01:38:37,880
Speaker 1: mean like the corners, we can almost decide who they

1800
01:38:37,920 --> 01:38:39,760
Speaker 1: are right now. So the fifth cour if you have

1801
01:38:39,840 --> 01:38:41,640
Speaker 1: a fifth corner, that guy's got to be a key

1802
01:38:41,720 --> 01:38:45,360
Speaker 1: special teams player. Oh absolutely, you're you're so who would

1803
01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:49,920
Speaker 1: that be, right? Because I would think the at five

1804
01:38:50,040 --> 01:38:53,839
Speaker 1: the fifth corner position, yeah, well you got Jalen Ramsey

1805
01:38:53,960 --> 01:38:56,320
Speaker 1: a J boy A Trey Herndon, d J Hey, and

1806
01:38:56,360 --> 01:39:03,040
Speaker 1: there's your top four, right, So who's five? All right? Now? Uh? Interesting?

1807
01:39:03,880 --> 01:39:07,160
Speaker 1: Quentin Meeks has been okay, not as exciting as he

1808
01:39:07,320 --> 01:39:10,839
Speaker 1: was last year. He's in the conversation with Brian Borders.

1809
01:39:10,840 --> 01:39:13,280
Speaker 1: I don't know if anybody has better stats than Brian

1810
01:39:13,400 --> 01:39:16,320
Speaker 1: Borders in camp so far as far as camp and

1811
01:39:16,400 --> 01:39:19,759
Speaker 1: touching the ball and interception. So but they're there again

1812
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:24,160
Speaker 1: that we're we're talking about defensive numbers. You have to

1813
01:39:24,240 --> 01:39:30,479
Speaker 1: evaluate that spot from special teams. So is Brian Borders

1814
01:39:30,560 --> 01:39:33,960
Speaker 1: or quint Meeks shown better on special teams? Good question, Well,

1815
01:39:34,080 --> 01:39:37,200
Speaker 1: that that's how you answer. That's the answer to who

1816
01:39:37,360 --> 01:39:39,639
Speaker 1: is going to be that next corner to make the roster?

1817
01:39:39,920 --> 01:39:42,280
Speaker 1: There you go. Let's move on to our next question

1818
01:39:42,320 --> 01:39:46,360
Speaker 1: from at Joey Jaguar eight. Is Cam practicing today just

1819
01:39:46,560 --> 01:39:48,920
Speaker 1: to settle the injury panic that was starting to set in.

1820
01:39:49,479 --> 01:39:52,400
Speaker 1: Doug was depressing everyone this weekend. But now they're saying

1821
01:39:52,479 --> 01:39:55,840
Speaker 1: Cam and Oliver maybe back by week one. Seems too

1822
01:39:55,920 --> 01:39:58,000
Speaker 1: good to be a coincidence. All I know is that

1823
01:39:58,080 --> 01:40:02,120
Speaker 1: I got depressed Saturday after hearing dog I did I

1824
01:40:02,160 --> 01:40:04,800
Speaker 1: mean right? It was kind of like he was as

1825
01:40:04,840 --> 01:40:07,040
Speaker 1: down about that as anything I've ever heard and talk

1826
01:40:07,120 --> 01:40:12,280
Speaker 1: about the young day. Yeah, it was two things. One,

1827
01:40:12,320 --> 01:40:15,000
Speaker 1: if you heard the tone, it was kind of depressing.

1828
01:40:15,080 --> 01:40:19,320
Speaker 1: And when you when you get that after you watched

1829
01:40:19,400 --> 01:40:21,960
Speaker 1: the game Thursday and then you hear that, you're like, oh,

1830
01:40:23,160 --> 01:40:28,080
Speaker 1: oh no, right right this week two of the preseason.

1831
01:40:28,120 --> 01:40:31,840
Speaker 1: Oh boy. But even if you read the script and

1832
01:40:31,960 --> 01:40:40,120
Speaker 1: ignored the the tone, you went the transcript, Yeah, absolutely right.

1833
01:40:41,160 --> 01:40:43,040
Speaker 1: But they did have some news to I mean, I'm

1834
01:40:43,080 --> 01:40:45,519
Speaker 1: just glad that Doug bounced back. Yes, thank you for

1835
01:40:45,600 --> 01:40:49,400
Speaker 1: the rebound today. So Cam's back out there. Josh Oliver

1836
01:40:49,680 --> 01:40:52,280
Speaker 1: had a little something on the side today the tight end.

1837
01:40:52,360 --> 01:40:54,960
Speaker 1: That's good news. Hopeful. They're hoping he'll be back week

1838
01:40:55,000 --> 01:40:58,160
Speaker 1: one now. Doug Maron said that today Williams Williams won't

1839
01:40:58,160 --> 01:40:59,960
Speaker 1: be back for a week. When was it when he's

1840
01:41:00,000 --> 01:41:01,720
Speaker 1: supposed to be back, Quincy Williams are hoping a week

1841
01:41:01,760 --> 01:41:05,920
Speaker 1: one for him as well. Can he this is some moment,

1842
01:41:06,000 --> 01:41:09,200
Speaker 1: asked Jeff, Jeff, Can he go the entire preseason without

1843
01:41:09,240 --> 01:41:10,800
Speaker 1: playing and walk on the field and be a starter

1844
01:41:10,880 --> 01:41:16,160
Speaker 1: in week one? Williams you're talking about can he? Yes?

1845
01:41:16,320 --> 01:41:22,160
Speaker 1: He can? If he yeah, I think he will, But

1846
01:41:22,360 --> 01:41:25,160
Speaker 1: but I don't. I don't think that that he's going

1847
01:41:25,240 --> 01:41:28,000
Speaker 1: to start back to practice week one and then play

1848
01:41:28,040 --> 01:41:30,840
Speaker 1: in the game, be ready to rock. I think he'll

1849
01:41:30,880 --> 01:41:34,320
Speaker 1: have maybe two weeks of practice to get ready. I hope,

1850
01:41:34,360 --> 01:41:37,680
Speaker 1: I hope. Anyway, you know where he's working week one.

1851
01:41:37,760 --> 01:41:40,960
Speaker 1: He's not starting then, No, I mean he could. I

1852
01:41:41,000 --> 01:41:44,080
Speaker 1: mean he could, he could come back and start week one,

1853
01:41:44,160 --> 01:41:46,160
Speaker 1: but I would think that you would like to have

1854
01:41:46,240 --> 01:41:49,599
Speaker 1: a couple of weeks with a rookie. So how who

1855
01:41:49,680 --> 01:41:52,639
Speaker 1: starts there then in week one? In your mind? Um

1856
01:41:53,920 --> 01:41:58,479
Speaker 1: h nause good, yeah, yeah, he's he's athletic now, he is.

1857
01:41:58,680 --> 01:42:01,600
Speaker 1: He is very good on open Miles Jack at the

1858
01:42:01,640 --> 01:42:06,120
Speaker 1: mic Good at the will, and then Leon Jacobs at

1859
01:42:06,200 --> 01:42:10,040
Speaker 1: the strong side, Sam So and then at some point

1860
01:42:10,120 --> 01:42:15,559
Speaker 1: does Jake Ryan get back and then obviously the other

1861
01:42:15,640 --> 01:42:18,080
Speaker 1: day by the way, Quincy Williams gets back. I mean,

1862
01:42:18,200 --> 01:42:21,360
Speaker 1: but yeah, I mean it's a nagy good by the way,

1863
01:42:21,840 --> 01:42:25,920
Speaker 1: pete Um, I'm watching him out there on the practice

1864
01:42:25,960 --> 01:42:29,400
Speaker 1: field and I'm going, Okay, this guy's in his eighth year.

1865
01:42:30,240 --> 01:42:32,600
Speaker 1: He's bouncing around, right, how many different teams has he

1866
01:42:32,680 --> 01:42:34,600
Speaker 1: been on? Because it has only been the Colts or

1867
01:42:34,680 --> 01:42:37,280
Speaker 1: has he been on other teams? I'm trying to trying

1868
01:42:37,320 --> 01:42:39,040
Speaker 1: to remember. But anyway, here's a guy that was not

1869
01:42:40,000 --> 01:42:42,760
Speaker 1: a priority free agent I'll use that term. And he's

1870
01:42:42,840 --> 01:42:44,160
Speaker 1: kind of one of those guys that you could have

1871
01:42:44,520 --> 01:42:46,639
Speaker 1: anybody could have gotten off of the I don't want

1872
01:42:46,640 --> 01:42:50,720
Speaker 1: to say scrappy, but out there in the market. He

1873
01:42:50,840 --> 01:42:56,200
Speaker 1: was a Bucks draft picks Colts, all right, So he's

1874
01:42:56,240 --> 01:42:59,280
Speaker 1: been around the block. When you watch him in practice

1875
01:42:59,320 --> 01:43:01,640
Speaker 1: and you watch how he moves, I mean he's he

1876
01:43:01,760 --> 01:43:05,479
Speaker 1: got great movement skills, he's athletic. You go to yourself,

1877
01:43:06,840 --> 01:43:10,479
Speaker 1: why was has he so? Why has he been so

1878
01:43:10,600 --> 01:43:13,280
Speaker 1: well traveled? Because I mean he looks like he's a

1879
01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:18,280
Speaker 1: good football player. Now, I mean good football player, athletics, strong, fast, right,

1880
01:43:18,320 --> 01:43:19,879
Speaker 1: I mean that once you look for in the linebacker,

1881
01:43:20,600 --> 01:43:22,320
Speaker 1: I think he's a nice little fine I mean, and

1882
01:43:23,720 --> 01:43:25,519
Speaker 1: if you can hold down to fort for however long

1883
01:43:25,600 --> 01:43:30,200
Speaker 1: it's needed, that's positive. Let's get one more question, and

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Speaker 1: that came in a little late as the show started

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Speaker 1: today from at I K triad. I guess is how

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Speaker 1: you say that are there any position groups that are

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Speaker 1: looking way better or way worse than you expected before

1888
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Speaker 1: camp started. Also, it's a second question. This is there's

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Speaker 1: a two question question. Okay, Also to how about a

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Speaker 1: two part question? Part question to this one question? Uh,

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Speaker 1: do you have you found any hidden gyms among the

1892
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Speaker 1: undrafted free agent rookie class? All, it's the second part

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Speaker 1: first the hidden gems that I identified a couple of

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Speaker 1: weeks in Jeff's if you will whatever on on Happy

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Speaker 1: Hour on Jaguars Thursday, Happy Our on Thursday. Okay, it's

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Speaker 1: happy Hour on Thursday. I just want to make sure

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Speaker 1: I got that right. Thursday's happy, Thursday's happier. That's the

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Speaker 1: way to do it. Thank you, give me some knucks.

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Speaker 1: There we go. Uh. Was Charles Jones the tight end,

1900
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Speaker 1: the undrafted guy from Tulane and then the wide receiver

1901
01:44:28,240 --> 01:44:32,240
Speaker 1: Tyree Brady And those are my two guys. Now. I

1902
01:44:32,400 --> 01:44:35,439
Speaker 1: still feel really good about Charles Jones, even though he's

1903
01:44:35,479 --> 01:44:39,680
Speaker 1: not practicing, because for a young drundrafted player, for the

1904
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Speaker 1: team to continue to have confidence in you and continue

1905
01:44:42,240 --> 01:44:44,080
Speaker 1: to gain more confidence in you, you need to be

1906
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Speaker 1: what's the word, JP, We've heard it a million times. Availability.

1907
01:44:49,640 --> 01:44:51,920
Speaker 1: You need to be available. Well, right now, he's not

1908
01:44:52,560 --> 01:44:54,200
Speaker 1: but I still believe he's pretty good. He had a

1909
01:44:54,240 --> 01:44:56,920
Speaker 1: good game. He was a little bit overwhelmed at the

1910
01:44:56,960 --> 01:44:58,959
Speaker 1: beginning part of the game against some of the defensive

1911
01:44:59,120 --> 01:45:02,960
Speaker 1: ends of the Ravens, got overpowered a little bit, but

1912
01:45:03,000 --> 01:45:05,679
Speaker 1: then he settled down and did a really good job,

1913
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Speaker 1: finished some really nice blocks. In fact, almost drew a

1914
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Speaker 1: personal foul from who pushed him after a play because

1915
01:45:14,320 --> 01:45:18,160
Speaker 1: now Charles was blocking him down the field. Tyree Brady,

1916
01:45:18,240 --> 01:45:21,200
Speaker 1: on the other hand, Pete, I had identified him because

1917
01:45:21,560 --> 01:45:24,160
Speaker 1: there were times in practice that I confused Brady with

1918
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Speaker 1: Chris Conley. I was like, man, that was a nice

1919
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Speaker 1: catch by Conley, and I look and I go, no,

1920
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Speaker 1: that's the that's a nine. It's a one nine, not

1921
01:45:33,479 --> 01:45:35,920
Speaker 1: a one eight. Similar build. Yeah, I think that's the

1922
01:45:35,920 --> 01:45:39,519
Speaker 1: same size, guys, And uh so, I mean he looked

1923
01:45:39,520 --> 01:45:42,040
Speaker 1: it did some things. But then in the game, and

1924
01:45:42,120 --> 01:45:45,280
Speaker 1: here's the thing that doesn't help in your evaluation process

1925
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Speaker 1: for any wide receiver, and that's the performance of the

1926
01:45:49,400 --> 01:45:52,519
Speaker 1: offensive line and the quarterback play in the ball game,

1927
01:45:52,760 --> 01:45:57,519
Speaker 1: which wasn't great. But Tyree Brady on special teams, That's

1928
01:45:57,560 --> 01:46:00,320
Speaker 1: where I'm looking at right because we're talking about one

1929
01:46:00,360 --> 01:46:02,160
Speaker 1: of those wide receivers that if he's gonna find a

1930
01:46:02,200 --> 01:46:03,479
Speaker 1: way to make the team, he's got to do it

1931
01:46:03,560 --> 01:46:07,880
Speaker 1: on special teams. I was underimpressed with his level of

1932
01:46:07,960 --> 01:46:11,080
Speaker 1: play on special teams. But how about a position group

1933
01:46:11,320 --> 01:46:13,760
Speaker 1: either better or worse than you expected before camp. I

1934
01:46:13,840 --> 01:46:16,719
Speaker 1: think all of them out what I expected. I think

1935
01:46:17,040 --> 01:46:20,799
Speaker 1: that I think the receivers are better than I expected.

1936
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Speaker 1: Oh you don't agree, Lugs, Well, I don't. I don't

1937
01:46:25,320 --> 01:46:28,679
Speaker 1: want say I disagree. I think I think I gotta

1938
01:46:28,720 --> 01:46:32,640
Speaker 1: see more evidence to feel that way. I think for

1939
01:46:32,720 --> 01:46:34,759
Speaker 1: a big year, I think Shark is taking some steps

1940
01:46:34,800 --> 01:46:37,000
Speaker 1: forward now. He ustill got to do it when it counts,

1941
01:46:37,280 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 1: And I think Connolly has been a nice addition. Some

1942
01:46:39,880 --> 01:46:42,240
Speaker 1: drops every now and again, though, that's one thing better

1943
01:46:42,320 --> 01:46:45,240
Speaker 1: than what the perception is up. And they're connecting on

1944
01:46:45,360 --> 01:46:47,600
Speaker 1: some deep balls. They had another couple ones today that

1945
01:46:48,240 --> 01:46:51,120
Speaker 1: JP great. You bring up a great point, pete Uh.

1946
01:46:52,200 --> 01:46:56,400
Speaker 1: Because the deep balls that they are connecting on not

1947
01:46:56,520 --> 01:47:00,040
Speaker 1: only in their own practice with against each other, and

1948
01:47:00,160 --> 01:47:04,240
Speaker 1: also in the Ravens practices. There were many deep balls.

1949
01:47:04,320 --> 01:47:07,080
Speaker 1: Now if you look at the Jaguars Wide Receiving Corps

1950
01:47:08,040 --> 01:47:14,400
Speaker 1: d J. Chark, legitimate deep threat, uh, Chris Conley legitimate

1951
01:47:14,479 --> 01:47:20,080
Speaker 1: deep threat, Keeling Cole legitimate deep threatn D. D. Westbrook.

1952
01:47:21,479 --> 01:47:23,280
Speaker 1: I would say he's a deep threat. But out of

1953
01:47:23,320 --> 01:47:27,519
Speaker 1: those four guys, three of them are legitimate guys that

1954
01:47:27,640 --> 01:47:30,920
Speaker 1: can go over the top and win. And Jimmy Smith

1955
01:47:31,280 --> 01:47:35,040
Speaker 1: of the Ravens the cornerback, Okay, learned that pretty quickly

1956
01:47:36,320 --> 01:47:40,280
Speaker 1: multiple times. And the Jaguars practice with the Ravens so

1957
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Speaker 1: good a good corners and good corners, car car and

1958
01:47:44,640 --> 01:47:49,280
Speaker 1: Jimmy Smith. So that that's something that I think that

1959
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Speaker 1: the Jaguars fans if that's the one trait that I

1960
01:47:54,040 --> 01:47:56,720
Speaker 1: think is a little bit different out of what we've

1961
01:47:56,760 --> 01:47:59,840
Speaker 1: seen in the past with the Jaguars offense. They are

1962
01:48:00,080 --> 01:48:04,280
Speaker 1: more than willing to throw the ball deep with offensive

1963
01:48:04,320 --> 01:48:08,639
Speaker 1: coordinator John D. Felippo, let's come back. We'll go around

1964
01:48:08,680 --> 01:48:12,920
Speaker 1: the National Football League. We'll hit the situation in Dallas,

1965
01:48:13,000 --> 01:48:16,240
Speaker 1: Pete that apparently is kind of not really breaking. There's

1966
01:48:16,280 --> 01:48:20,080
Speaker 1: nothing happening over the last hour or so, thirty million dollars,

1967
01:48:20,160 --> 01:48:23,440
Speaker 1: The kids are bogly, Dirndl was he crazy? Dak Prescott,

1968
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Speaker 1: We'll get to that. Antonio Brown, all that's coming up.

1969
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Speaker 1: Final moments of Jaguars Happy Hour j P. Shadrick, Jeff

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Speaker 1: Logaman and Pete Prisco. You got all right? Joe Fortunato's

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Speaker 1: it and he got birthday cookies. Yeah, I had one

2029
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Speaker 1: I was looking forward to having one right before the

2032
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2033
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2034
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2035
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Speaker 1: all these scavengers. I mean it's a star, right, you

2036
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Speaker 1: know that's right, I mean it's aide. Let's go around

2037
01:52:29,320 --> 01:52:31,760
Speaker 1: the National Football League in our final minutes. Here we

2038
01:52:31,880 --> 01:52:38,080
Speaker 1: start in Dallas where Dak Prescott apparently, well allegedly is

2039
01:52:38,160 --> 01:52:41,040
Speaker 1: turning down thirty million a year because he wants forty

2040
01:52:41,160 --> 01:52:45,120
Speaker 1: million a year. Pete, is this true? And is he nuts? Yeah?

2041
01:52:45,200 --> 01:52:47,920
Speaker 1: It's true and he's nuts, yes, and yes, I mean

2042
01:52:48,000 --> 01:52:50,600
Speaker 1: bottom line, Look, you know what happens with the quarterbacks,

2043
01:52:50,640 --> 01:52:52,760
Speaker 1: and it's the next guy up once the biggest deal,

2044
01:52:52,920 --> 01:52:55,920
Speaker 1: and doesn't mean he should get it. Uh, if somebody,

2045
01:52:56,000 --> 01:52:58,599
Speaker 1: if the Dallas Cowboys are offering Dak Prescott thirty million

2046
01:52:58,640 --> 01:53:02,599
Speaker 1: dollars a year, he should race up there and take it, period,

2047
01:53:02,720 --> 01:53:06,880
Speaker 1: end of story. Uh. He's not that good. He's a good,

2048
01:53:06,960 --> 01:53:09,200
Speaker 1: serviceable quarterback. He's not the guy's going to carry that

2049
01:53:09,280 --> 01:53:12,280
Speaker 1: franchise if need be. So he's crazy. If he turns

2050
01:53:12,320 --> 01:53:15,120
Speaker 1: down thirty million dollars, you're dead on the money. Alright, Pete.

2051
01:53:15,160 --> 01:53:18,200
Speaker 1: I would totally agree with you, but I don't want

2052
01:53:18,240 --> 01:53:20,599
Speaker 1: to make sure that people understand that he turned down

2053
01:53:21,240 --> 01:53:25,080
Speaker 1: thirty million a year an extension. It doesn't. It doesn't.

2054
01:53:25,080 --> 01:53:27,880
Speaker 1: It's not like he is going to have his his

2055
01:53:28,000 --> 01:53:31,400
Speaker 1: existing contract ripped up and then he's gonna start earning

2056
01:53:31,560 --> 01:53:34,200
Speaker 1: thirty million a year starting right now. So that's a

2057
01:53:34,240 --> 01:53:39,920
Speaker 1: little different, but it's a lot of money. Elliott is

2058
01:53:39,960 --> 01:53:42,479
Speaker 1: a better player in his position than Doc isn't. His

2059
01:53:43,040 --> 01:53:44,880
Speaker 1: dad is more valuable to that team. I don't care

2060
01:53:44,920 --> 01:53:53,400
Speaker 1: what anybody says. I wouldn't. I don't know if i'd

2061
01:53:53,439 --> 01:53:55,160
Speaker 1: go there. I mean there, I mean the running backs

2062
01:53:55,479 --> 01:54:00,240
Speaker 1: are replaceable, yes, but are you eating Eminem's By the

2063
01:54:00,280 --> 01:54:04,320
Speaker 1: way I'm hearing crunching? Would rather my bag is open over?

2064
01:54:04,479 --> 01:54:12,080
Speaker 1: Would you rather play quarterback Cooper Rush and Zeke Elliott

2065
01:54:12,520 --> 01:54:18,000
Speaker 1: or the backup running back and Dak Prescott. I'd rather

2066
01:54:18,040 --> 01:54:22,000
Speaker 1: play the backup running back in Dak Prescott. But I mean, well,

2067
01:54:22,080 --> 01:54:24,040
Speaker 1: you know, and that might be debatable now because the

2068
01:54:24,080 --> 01:54:27,040
Speaker 1: backup running back with the Dallas Cowboys is not that good. Pete,

2069
01:54:27,400 --> 01:54:31,400
Speaker 1: it's Tony Pollard. He's a young rookie. Well, I mean, now,

2070
01:54:31,479 --> 01:54:33,040
Speaker 1: he's a rookie. I mean the one that they had

2071
01:54:33,120 --> 01:54:37,360
Speaker 1: last year. The quarterbacks more valuable. Looking back on it,

2072
01:54:37,560 --> 01:54:40,040
Speaker 1: they probably should have drafted Jayla Ramsey, right, That's what

2073
01:54:40,120 --> 01:54:44,400
Speaker 1: we said right at the draft. I can I can

2074
01:54:44,480 --> 01:54:49,520
Speaker 1: tell you this, Zeke Elliott for that organization has been

2075
01:54:49,720 --> 01:54:53,080
Speaker 1: exactly what they've needed for for where they were at

2076
01:54:53,120 --> 01:54:56,160
Speaker 1: with their quarterback and where they are at as an offense.

2077
01:54:57,000 --> 01:54:59,080
Speaker 1: That was a better fit for them as a team

2078
01:54:59,560 --> 01:55:01,640
Speaker 1: than j and Ramsey would have been when he's been available.

2079
01:55:02,880 --> 01:55:10,760
Speaker 1: He's been suspended a bunch, right, what's that? Oh, you

2080
01:55:10,840 --> 01:55:12,480
Speaker 1: gotta be careful with the running back. I don't think

2081
01:55:12,480 --> 01:55:14,800
Speaker 1: there's any doubt about that. And he's got what he's

2082
01:55:14,840 --> 01:55:18,120
Speaker 1: got how many years left on his contract? He's got two, right,

2083
01:55:18,440 --> 01:55:20,839
Speaker 1: I mean two more. He's got one this year under contract,

2084
01:55:20,920 --> 01:55:22,760
Speaker 1: and then he's got an option year which they picked up,

2085
01:55:22,760 --> 01:55:24,280
Speaker 1: and he's gotten the next year, so he's got two.

2086
01:55:24,640 --> 01:55:27,320
Speaker 1: He's got too. He's crazy he's getting a new deal. Well,

2087
01:55:27,360 --> 01:55:30,320
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't blame him for trying, because I

2088
01:55:30,400 --> 01:55:33,080
Speaker 1: can tell you this is and let me ask you

2089
01:55:33,200 --> 01:55:36,480
Speaker 1: this question, Pete. Is he not worth more than what

2090
01:55:36,600 --> 01:55:41,160
Speaker 1: he's getting right now? Yes? Yeah, So do you blame

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Speaker 1: him for withholding his services right now and holding now? No? Absolutely,

2092
01:55:46,800 --> 01:55:48,800
Speaker 1: Gordon is worth more than he's getting right now. But

2093
01:55:48,880 --> 01:55:50,920
Speaker 1: you've gotta be careful with those deal And they can

2094
01:55:50,960 --> 01:55:53,560
Speaker 1: look at Todd Gurley's deal and blame him because the

2095
01:55:53,680 --> 01:55:56,560
Speaker 1: running back market has gone off the edge because of

2096
01:55:56,640 --> 01:56:02,040
Speaker 1: Todd Gurley. Let's move to Oakland. Antonio Brown's saga first

2097
01:56:02,160 --> 01:56:05,800
Speaker 1: is the frost bitten feet. Now now he's threatening to

2098
01:56:05,880 --> 01:56:08,320
Speaker 1: not play anymore if he can't use his old muscle helmet,

2099
01:56:08,400 --> 01:56:11,200
Speaker 1: and the arbitrator has come down and said that he

2100
01:56:11,280 --> 01:56:14,120
Speaker 1: cannot use the old helmet. This is a twelve year

2101
01:56:14,160 --> 01:56:17,680
Speaker 1: old shoot air advantage helmet. H Brown believed to be

2102
01:56:17,800 --> 01:56:19,960
Speaker 1: the only player resisting the new rule. I think there

2103
01:56:19,960 --> 01:56:22,560
Speaker 1: were thirty players are so grandfather did last year. Now

2104
01:56:22,840 --> 01:56:26,400
Speaker 1: there's a bunch of guys that have had to change helmets.

2105
01:56:26,480 --> 01:56:29,920
Speaker 1: Tom Brady including in that group. But here's the deal,

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01:56:30,600 --> 01:56:34,760
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown is better than days of our lives. I

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01:56:34,840 --> 01:56:39,360
Speaker 1: can tell you that this is This is entertainment. I mean,

2108
01:56:39,400 --> 01:56:42,440
Speaker 1: this guy, he's a nut job, he really is. And

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01:56:42,600 --> 01:56:46,680
Speaker 1: and and look they're trying to make it safer for you,

2110
01:56:46,840 --> 01:56:51,920
Speaker 1: your knucklehead. Take the new helmet. It's all it's incredible,

2111
01:56:51,960 --> 01:56:54,160
Speaker 1: but you can't see the football. Pete, Come on, man,

2112
01:56:54,640 --> 01:56:57,200
Speaker 1: you're telling me, okay, And here's the thing, Pete, it's

2113
01:56:57,240 --> 01:57:00,480
Speaker 1: not like the NFL is saying, here's your new helmet.

2114
01:57:01,560 --> 01:57:04,360
Speaker 1: You only can have one. It's the only one we

2115
01:57:04,520 --> 01:57:08,280
Speaker 1: have available. There's a they have like twelve helmets to

2116
01:57:08,440 --> 01:57:12,280
Speaker 1: choose from, and every one of them and maybe you

2117
01:57:12,360 --> 01:57:13,880
Speaker 1: might be right, it might be more than twelve. But

2118
01:57:13,920 --> 01:57:16,680
Speaker 1: there is a variety of helmets for him to choose from,

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01:57:17,080 --> 01:57:22,440
Speaker 1: and ones that are proven proven that they're lighter, better

2120
01:57:22,840 --> 01:57:29,520
Speaker 1: far as more aerodynamic, more uh air cooling and are safer,

2121
01:57:29,760 --> 01:57:33,400
Speaker 1: most importantly for you than the helmet that you were wearing.

2122
01:57:33,920 --> 01:57:36,120
Speaker 1: Why did you wear Did you wear Ridel when you

2123
01:57:36,160 --> 01:57:39,240
Speaker 1: came into the league. I wore Ridel when I came

2124
01:57:39,280 --> 01:57:41,440
Speaker 1: in the league because that was really your only option

2125
01:57:41,600 --> 01:57:45,000
Speaker 1: was Rodell and and I don't think we had many choices.

2126
01:57:45,320 --> 01:57:49,240
Speaker 1: We had a couple of options. Did you bring the

2127
01:57:49,320 --> 01:57:54,240
Speaker 1: same helmet? Did I wear the same helmet you're after year? Hell? No,

2128
01:57:55,800 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: I'm not gonna wear the same helmet because after you

2129
01:57:58,440 --> 01:58:01,480
Speaker 1: beat heads with somebody for entire year, do you think

2130
01:58:01,560 --> 01:58:02,920
Speaker 1: that that's gonna be safe for me to wear it

2131
01:58:03,000 --> 01:58:04,480
Speaker 1: the next year? As it would be if I got

2132
01:58:04,560 --> 01:58:07,160
Speaker 1: a new everything. No, I don't get it. I don't

2133
01:58:07,240 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: understand the whole he's at. You're right, he's better than

2134
01:58:10,440 --> 01:58:12,920
Speaker 1: the days of our lives. It is. It's entertaining, though,

2135
01:58:12,920 --> 01:58:14,800
Speaker 1: I mean, I mean, you gotta love it from that aspect.

2136
01:58:15,200 --> 01:58:20,800
Speaker 1: Here's the disappointing thing. This was a great opportunity for HBO,

2137
01:58:21,640 --> 01:58:26,760
Speaker 1: right and Hard Knocks, and and John Gruden is rooting

2138
01:58:26,840 --> 01:58:30,960
Speaker 1: it by cuttinging, cutting all this stuff on the editing floor,

2139
01:58:31,240 --> 01:58:34,600
Speaker 1: I mean, from the from the cryogenically frozen foot to

2140
01:58:34,760 --> 01:58:38,400
Speaker 1: the helmet to the non participation in practice and they're

2141
01:58:38,400 --> 01:58:41,000
Speaker 1: cutting that out of hard Knocks. This could be the

2142
01:58:41,080 --> 01:58:47,640
Speaker 1: best hard knocks ever and I thought disappointing. All right,

2143
01:58:48,480 --> 01:58:51,840
Speaker 1: we've made it through another program, Jaguars Happy Hour. Pete,

2144
01:58:52,000 --> 01:58:56,000
Speaker 1: well done with logs, so easy to talk and be

2145
01:58:56,280 --> 01:59:00,320
Speaker 1: no yelling and screaming and just good football conversation. Nation.

2146
01:59:00,680 --> 01:59:03,600
Speaker 1: It's a rarity on this program. Consider who else is

2147
01:59:03,680 --> 01:59:06,240
Speaker 1: usually on the show. Don't get used to it because

2148
01:59:06,400 --> 01:59:09,720
Speaker 1: Tony Basel will be back next week for Jaguars Half

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01:59:09,760 --> 01:59:12,280
Speaker 1: Here Lugs. Thanks so much, good to see it. Thank you.

2150
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Speaker 1: By the way, I'll be the game Thursday. Cool. We'll

2151
01:59:14,920 --> 01:59:19,160
Speaker 1: see Pete Briscoe, Jeff Flagerman, birthday Boy, Joe Fortunato, britt

2152
01:59:19,240 --> 01:59:21,720
Speaker 1: rebar Our entire crew. I'm JP Shatrick. We'll see you

2153
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Speaker 1: next time. Jaguars Happy Hour on the Jaguars Digital Network.