1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:05,560 Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast am on iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:05,040 --> 00:00:07,640 Speaker 2: And welcome back to Coast to Coast George Norrie with you. 3 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:12,200 Speaker 2: Erica Bussarhani with Us is a psychic medium and paranormal investigator, 4 00:00:12,640 --> 00:00:16,319 Speaker 2: widely recognized for her ability to connect with the spirit world. 5 00:00:16,400 --> 00:00:20,440 Speaker 2: Affectionately known as the psychic Diva, she has spent decades 6 00:00:20,480 --> 00:00:25,439 Speaker 2: helping individuals find closure, clarity, comfort through messages from beyond. 7 00:00:26,000 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 2: Erica is the founder of the Pensacola History and a 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,880 Speaker 2: Hunting's Tour, where she shares the city's rich and haunted 9 00:00:31,920 --> 00:00:37,159 Speaker 2: pass through immersive storytelling in guided paranormal experiences. One of 10 00:00:37,159 --> 00:00:39,040 Speaker 2: her books that she wrote back in two thousand and 11 00:00:39,120 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: nine is called Sam and the Boogeyman. Erica, Welcome back. 12 00:00:42,360 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 2: Have you been? 13 00:00:43,760 --> 00:00:45,800 Speaker 3: I've been doing great, George. How are you? 14 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 2: Oh? I'm doing fine. Why is this such a great 15 00:00:49,280 --> 00:00:52,199 Speaker 2: part of the year. It just kicks off everything, doesn't it. 16 00:00:53,200 --> 00:00:53,520 Speaker 3: Well? 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,800 Speaker 4: I think it's because no matter where you are in 18 00:00:56,880 --> 00:00:59,680 Speaker 4: the world, there's a way to kind of honor your 19 00:00:59,760 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 4: dad during this time. It makes it not scary to 20 00:01:03,960 --> 00:01:07,120 Speaker 4: to really play with the dead, to dress up to 21 00:01:07,240 --> 00:01:13,240 Speaker 4: honor them, to even make the scary afterlife fun and exciting. 22 00:01:13,319 --> 00:01:16,800 Speaker 4: And it's a way of you know, remembering the dead, 23 00:01:17,080 --> 00:01:21,520 Speaker 4: and it's saying that by the decay of autumn and 24 00:01:21,800 --> 00:01:26,480 Speaker 4: the new birth of possibilities, and it retouches us to 25 00:01:26,520 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 4: the beyond that sometimes we're afraid of. 26 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:29,959 Speaker 3: We're walking around. 27 00:01:29,680 --> 00:01:34,800 Speaker 4: With skeletons and coffins and spiders and all of these things. 28 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:35,679 Speaker 3: Pumpkins. 29 00:01:36,120 --> 00:01:39,000 Speaker 4: It makes it fun and okay and not as scary 30 00:01:39,000 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 4: as originally people thought it was. 31 00:01:41,200 --> 00:01:44,600 Speaker 2: Do you think some times Erica that Halloween has overdone 32 00:01:44,680 --> 00:01:47,920 Speaker 2: a little bit? Is its push too much commercially? 33 00:01:49,080 --> 00:01:51,880 Speaker 4: Most definitely, I think that it kind of gets away 34 00:01:51,960 --> 00:01:54,120 Speaker 4: from the original Celtic meaning of it. 35 00:01:54,280 --> 00:01:58,480 Speaker 3: You know, they went through that primarily to a ritual to. 36 00:01:58,480 --> 00:02:02,880 Speaker 4: Bring in autumn and to kind of understand the changes 37 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:03,440 Speaker 4: that were. 38 00:02:03,280 --> 00:02:04,600 Speaker 3: Happening in the environment. 39 00:02:05,000 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 4: You know, fast forward many years from now, you wouldn't 40 00:02:08,080 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 4: expect that children are going to be walking around begging 41 00:02:11,320 --> 00:02:15,440 Speaker 4: for candy, you know, instead of souling. But yeah, I 42 00:02:15,440 --> 00:02:18,200 Speaker 4: think there's a lot of commercialism to a lot of 43 00:02:18,240 --> 00:02:22,680 Speaker 4: the holidays, but specifically this holiday. I like to see 44 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:25,520 Speaker 4: it go back ancestral in some ways where people are 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:29,400 Speaker 4: really honoring the dead as it first intended. 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 2: You're a psychic medium in addition to being psychic, and 47 00:02:33,480 --> 00:02:36,720 Speaker 2: you communicate with the other side, with the dead. Do 48 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:38,840 Speaker 2: they say anything about Halloween? 49 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,720 Speaker 4: You know, I don't think they've never given me any 50 00:02:42,760 --> 00:02:46,680 Speaker 4: Halloween tricks or tips or anything. And you know, I've 51 00:02:46,800 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 4: dressed up from everything from a police officer to a zombie. 52 00:02:52,040 --> 00:02:54,880 Speaker 4: But I think it's not really so much them saying 53 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 4: anything about Halloween. I think it's when the veil finds 54 00:02:59,520 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 4: they're able to communicate with us, and I think they 55 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:05,760 Speaker 4: readily love the fact that we're more in tune in 56 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,840 Speaker 4: these months to set out maybe an altar, set out 57 00:03:09,919 --> 00:03:11,040 Speaker 4: some food, set. 58 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,080 Speaker 3: Out some photos, do a family tree, write a letter 59 00:03:15,120 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 3: to our loved ones, light a candle. So they're just saying, hey, 60 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 3: we're here. 61 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: So if the communication is welcome, we're here to give 62 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:23,240 Speaker 4: it to you. 63 00:03:23,840 --> 00:03:26,800 Speaker 2: There's a Gaelic event called sam Hayne which comes up 64 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:30,040 Speaker 2: during the same time period. Is that similar to Halloween 65 00:03:31,280 --> 00:03:32,160 Speaker 2: most definitely. 66 00:03:32,919 --> 00:03:37,240 Speaker 4: So when we think about traditionally across the country, you've 67 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 4: got a lot of different things like the Day of 68 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:45,720 Speaker 4: the Dead, the Hungry Ghost in Haiti, the Day of 69 00:03:45,760 --> 00:03:46,520 Speaker 4: the Dead, too. 70 00:03:47,120 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: They're all kind of about the same thing. 71 00:03:49,320 --> 00:03:54,800 Speaker 4: They have similar Celtic origins where people are remembering the dead. 72 00:03:54,840 --> 00:03:57,720 Speaker 4: They're honoring the dead in their multiple ways. But there 73 00:03:57,720 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 4: are a lot of cross connections with candles, with the 74 00:04:02,560 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 4: jack o' lanterns, with the feasting with the dead, the altars, 75 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:16,240 Speaker 4: the different ritualistic offerings that people have via candles, visiting 76 00:04:16,279 --> 00:04:19,839 Speaker 4: the cemeteries. There's many, many, many connections throughout the whole 77 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,280 Speaker 4: world in this same time that tied. 78 00:04:23,040 --> 00:04:27,200 Speaker 2: To that Erica as a hurricane Melitsa hits Haiti. It 79 00:04:27,279 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 2: truly is the day of the Dead. Twenty five people 80 00:04:29,839 --> 00:04:30,919 Speaker 2: dead already out there. 81 00:04:32,000 --> 00:04:36,599 Speaker 4: Yeah, and you know, it's kind of the concept of 82 00:04:37,000 --> 00:04:40,039 Speaker 4: Halloween when you think about it. You know, a lot 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:43,720 Speaker 4: of times these people were leaving the sunshine, we'll say, 84 00:04:43,760 --> 00:04:46,960 Speaker 4: going into the darkness and all of these things like 85 00:04:47,120 --> 00:04:50,680 Speaker 4: hurricanes and different things were happening that they couldn't control. 86 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:53,360 Speaker 3: Had no idea. The darkness was scary. 87 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:58,560 Speaker 4: So these kind of ritualistic things kind of came because 88 00:04:58,560 --> 00:05:00,200 Speaker 4: they were trying to understand and. 89 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:02,560 Speaker 3: Even predict and seek protection. 90 00:05:03,120 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: And so when you look at, you know, this thing 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:07,719 Speaker 4: in Haiti, I'm sure there are a lot of people 92 00:05:07,760 --> 00:05:11,040 Speaker 4: there doing ritualistic things in praying and doing these things 93 00:05:11,080 --> 00:05:15,640 Speaker 4: to try to seek some kind of protection toward the storm. 94 00:05:16,200 --> 00:05:18,640 Speaker 4: This happened a lot with the crops and the different 95 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 4: you know, deaths and disease during that time too, So 96 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,960 Speaker 4: there is a lot of correlation and my thoughts and 97 00:05:25,040 --> 00:05:29,360 Speaker 4: my prayers to those families because in Pensacola, Florida. 98 00:05:29,040 --> 00:05:31,719 Speaker 3: Where I am, we're no stranger to hurricanes as well. 99 00:05:32,560 --> 00:05:35,600 Speaker 2: Does this time be hear make it easier for you 100 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: to connect with the spirit world? 101 00:05:39,240 --> 00:05:43,840 Speaker 4: I think for me it does, you know, I've always 102 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 4: unfortunately and fortunately been. 103 00:05:45,640 --> 00:05:49,920 Speaker 3: Able to connect. But I think for other people it's 104 00:05:50,040 --> 00:05:50,680 Speaker 3: easier for. 105 00:05:50,680 --> 00:05:53,800 Speaker 4: Them to connect because it gives them permission to lure 106 00:05:54,120 --> 00:05:57,320 Speaker 4: their guard in this thin veil, and. 107 00:05:57,800 --> 00:06:00,320 Speaker 3: It makes it okay to have. 108 00:06:00,240 --> 00:06:04,800 Speaker 4: Remembrance of their loved ones, to dress up in you know, 109 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:09,600 Speaker 4: in costumes and have fun as a community. And you know, 110 00:06:09,800 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 4: in some religions it's still you know, a pagan you know, 111 00:06:13,720 --> 00:06:15,960 Speaker 4: it started out pagan, so in some ways, you know, 112 00:06:16,160 --> 00:06:19,080 Speaker 4: some people don't really want to celebrate Halloween because of 113 00:06:19,120 --> 00:06:22,200 Speaker 4: the pagan roots of it. But I think it gives 114 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:25,880 Speaker 4: the majority of the people that opportunity to connect to 115 00:06:25,960 --> 00:06:29,479 Speaker 4: people and make it okay to remember the dead, because 116 00:06:29,720 --> 00:06:32,880 Speaker 4: I always say when people die, you remember that at three. 117 00:06:32,720 --> 00:06:34,320 Speaker 3: Seconds, you don't remember their life. 118 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:37,599 Speaker 4: So a day like Halloween says, okay, it's okay for 119 00:06:37,680 --> 00:06:40,920 Speaker 4: me to honor my ancestry, my family, my loved ones. 120 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:46,960 Speaker 2: Where is the carving out of the pumpkins, wearing costumes, 121 00:06:47,200 --> 00:06:50,800 Speaker 2: all the strange little things that happened during Halloween? How 122 00:06:50,839 --> 00:06:51,760 Speaker 2: did that originate? 123 00:06:52,600 --> 00:06:54,040 Speaker 3: So basically, you know. 124 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 4: The ancestor of the beginning, the founder of Halloween is 125 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,280 Speaker 4: definitely going to be the Iris. Know from the Celtic culture, 126 00:07:01,400 --> 00:07:05,440 Speaker 4: they were looking for ways to explain the changes from 127 00:07:05,920 --> 00:07:10,400 Speaker 4: from uh to autumn, and they were looking for some 128 00:07:10,520 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: kind of explanation of the darkness around them as they 129 00:07:13,960 --> 00:07:14,960 Speaker 4: entered the fall weather. 130 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:16,200 Speaker 3: And they were. 131 00:07:16,080 --> 00:07:20,920 Speaker 5: Looking for ways to appease and seek protection for their 132 00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:24,080 Speaker 5: crops and for the animals and for the disease and 133 00:07:24,440 --> 00:07:26,600 Speaker 5: you know the different things that were happening around and 134 00:07:26,680 --> 00:07:27,160 Speaker 5: if they. 135 00:07:27,000 --> 00:07:31,200 Speaker 4: Didn't have enough food to last that winter, then they 136 00:07:31,320 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 4: unfortunately would perish. 137 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 3: So there was a lot of scary in the in 138 00:07:35,560 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 3: the in the woods. 139 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,280 Speaker 4: When when I look at a lot of the movies 140 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:41,440 Speaker 4: that are made about Irish folklore and the fairy and 141 00:07:41,520 --> 00:07:45,800 Speaker 4: the fee there's there's a lot of mystery in the woods, 142 00:07:46,000 --> 00:07:49,080 Speaker 4: you know, And so I think that Halloween started off 143 00:07:49,120 --> 00:07:51,400 Speaker 4: with them carving the turnip. 144 00:07:51,080 --> 00:07:52,560 Speaker 3: Root for protection. 145 00:07:52,840 --> 00:07:58,480 Speaker 4: It was it was made in like almost a devilish grin, 146 00:07:58,600 --> 00:08:01,480 Speaker 4: because it was to be placed with either coal or 147 00:08:01,520 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 4: a candle in the winter to ward off the evil 148 00:08:04,360 --> 00:08:09,000 Speaker 4: spirits are the sneaky spirits, the she that the fairy 149 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:12,560 Speaker 4: folk that kind of run in the forest and throughout 150 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:16,680 Speaker 4: the land. And so they did this really to seek protection, 151 00:08:16,960 --> 00:08:19,920 Speaker 4: as many cultures have done when they didn't understand the weather, 152 00:08:20,080 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 4: the climate, the different things that were going on. 153 00:08:22,920 --> 00:08:24,760 Speaker 3: And that's how the beginning of it. 154 00:08:24,800 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 4: So they basically carved pumpkins, they did all of these things. 155 00:08:27,840 --> 00:08:30,720 Speaker 3: They dressed up so that the spirits they could trick 156 00:08:30,840 --> 00:08:32,079 Speaker 3: the spirits. 157 00:08:31,560 --> 00:08:34,760 Speaker 4: And you know, kind of like blend in, I guess, 158 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,280 Speaker 4: so that was kind of the reasoning for it. 159 00:08:38,000 --> 00:08:41,000 Speaker 2: Erica, how did you enhance your psychic abilities and when 160 00:08:41,040 --> 00:08:43,920 Speaker 2: did you begin to realize you had something special? 161 00:08:45,160 --> 00:08:49,120 Speaker 4: Well, you know a lot of times intuition is innate. 162 00:08:50,040 --> 00:08:55,120 Speaker 3: You know, everybody is born psychic. Everybody can enhance their ability. 163 00:08:55,800 --> 00:09:00,000 Speaker 4: I just simply came from a family with enhanced skins, 164 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:04,280 Speaker 4: and I went through, you know, a lot of self YouTube, 165 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 4: Santana Stacey's courses, and just a lot of different meditations 166 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,760 Speaker 4: in order to harness the Claire audience, Claire Visuit, the 167 00:09:14,920 --> 00:09:17,200 Speaker 4: all the different players that I have. So I tell 168 00:09:17,240 --> 00:09:20,839 Speaker 4: anybody you know, start with something as simple as YouTube. 169 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,800 Speaker 4: Look at different techniques I do offer on my website. 170 00:09:24,840 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 4: Also some psychic development tools, but there is so many 171 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,199 Speaker 4: things that you can find on the internet. 172 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:36,400 Speaker 3: Just practice makes perfect. Don't give up. Trust what you get. 173 00:09:37,160 --> 00:09:41,040 Speaker 2: When you're in the psychic medium mode. What makes the 174 00:09:41,120 --> 00:09:43,679 Speaker 2: spirits come to you? Or do you go out and 175 00:09:43,720 --> 00:09:44,360 Speaker 2: find them? 176 00:09:45,920 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 3: You know, as a ghost under I do both. 177 00:09:49,040 --> 00:09:52,600 Speaker 4: They tend to I always say I'm haunted, George, I'm 178 00:09:52,640 --> 00:09:54,040 Speaker 4: haunted wherever I shall. 179 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:59,480 Speaker 3: So. But you know, as a medium, I think they 180 00:09:59,600 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 3: are around me a lot of times. 181 00:10:01,520 --> 00:10:05,000 Speaker 4: And you know, I'm on a zoom talking now, and 182 00:10:05,080 --> 00:10:07,400 Speaker 4: so I'm looking at the zoom and I see all 183 00:10:07,400 --> 00:10:12,040 Speaker 4: these flashes of people are things around me right now. 184 00:10:12,080 --> 00:10:14,640 Speaker 3: So I think I've already always tapped in. 185 00:10:15,120 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 4: But when as a paranormal investigator, I go into homes 186 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 4: and businesses and areas, looking for the spirits to interact 187 00:10:23,800 --> 00:10:27,280 Speaker 4: with to see what validity we can get as far 188 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 4: as what they're communicating from the other side. 189 00:10:30,679 --> 00:10:31,640 Speaker 3: I'm a medium, but. 190 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:34,520 Speaker 4: I'm also a very skeptical individual, so I like to 191 00:10:34,640 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 4: kind of deal with evidential mediumship and actuality and not 192 00:10:39,679 --> 00:10:40,840 Speaker 4: basically folklore. 193 00:10:41,480 --> 00:10:45,000 Speaker 2: Do you visit many haunted houses Erica? 194 00:10:45,200 --> 00:10:45,679 Speaker 3: I do. 195 00:10:46,520 --> 00:10:49,360 Speaker 4: I don't honestly have to physically be in a home 196 00:10:49,960 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: to visit them. 197 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:51,719 Speaker 5: I like to. 198 00:10:53,240 --> 00:10:57,600 Speaker 4: Practice remote viewing sometimes, and I will imagine and people 199 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,760 Speaker 4: can do this at home if you're intuitive, being. 200 00:11:00,600 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 3: At the doorstep. Imagine turning the door knob and walking in, and. 201 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 4: Then I usually separate the house from left to right, 202 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,960 Speaker 4: up and down, and I usually just am drawn directly 203 00:11:12,000 --> 00:11:15,600 Speaker 4: to whatever spirit activity is there, and I ask questions, 204 00:11:16,000 --> 00:11:18,240 Speaker 4: as I think we need to do when we're learning 205 00:11:18,240 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 4: our intuition, ask questions, because a lot of times it's 206 00:11:21,720 --> 00:11:23,960 Speaker 4: not that you're not psychic, it's just you're not being 207 00:11:24,000 --> 00:11:27,080 Speaker 4: a reporter. You're not asking what, when, where, how and why. 208 00:11:27,760 --> 00:11:29,440 Speaker 4: And that's what I think works well for me. 209 00:11:29,960 --> 00:11:32,240 Speaker 2: When you went to a haunted house, can you tell 210 00:11:32,320 --> 00:11:35,240 Speaker 2: right away that something strange is going on here. 211 00:11:36,559 --> 00:11:37,880 Speaker 1: Yes, So in. 212 00:11:38,520 --> 00:11:44,520 Speaker 4: Doing haunted investigations in person and via remote, I try 213 00:11:44,520 --> 00:11:47,480 Speaker 4: not to get in the information from the homeowner. So 214 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:51,680 Speaker 4: my team will usually we have someone on the team, 215 00:11:52,160 --> 00:11:56,319 Speaker 4: the case manager, that will inquire about what the homeowner 216 00:11:56,400 --> 00:11:59,520 Speaker 4: might be feeling, if they're waking up at a specific time, 217 00:11:59,559 --> 00:12:04,079 Speaker 4: if they're having visualizations of people, if they're hearing noises, 218 00:12:04,120 --> 00:12:05,800 Speaker 4: if they're having smells. 219 00:12:06,760 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 3: I try not to get any of that information. 220 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:11,839 Speaker 4: When I walk in, I ask to be guided to 221 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:15,040 Speaker 4: the area of haunting, and a lot of times at 222 00:12:15,080 --> 00:12:18,680 Speaker 4: that point you will notice a shift. 223 00:12:18,400 --> 00:12:20,160 Speaker 3: In the air, it'll be cold. 224 00:12:20,200 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 4: A lot of times our EMP detectors will start beeping 225 00:12:23,920 --> 00:12:26,280 Speaker 4: and things like that, and I just begin talking to 226 00:12:26,360 --> 00:12:29,040 Speaker 4: them just like we're talking now, because we have to 227 00:12:29,120 --> 00:12:33,200 Speaker 4: remember they were they are human, most of them that 228 00:12:33,240 --> 00:12:36,760 Speaker 4: are good, and we shouldn't go in there like the 229 00:12:36,920 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 4: FBI or the CIA just asking questions. Sometimes we've got 230 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:42,360 Speaker 4: to go in there and just respect that they're there 231 00:12:42,559 --> 00:12:43,440 Speaker 4: and see. 232 00:12:43,240 --> 00:12:45,520 Speaker 3: Why they're communicating with the homeowner. 233 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:49,679 Speaker 2: Erica's website is linked up at Coast tocosdam dot com. 234 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:55,120 Speaker 2: Do these spirits ever try to trick you or will 235 00:12:55,200 --> 00:12:55,959 Speaker 2: mislead you. 236 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 4: Oh, yes, you know, and that gets into the whole 237 00:13:00,720 --> 00:13:04,320 Speaker 4: Halloween trick or treat too, you know, because with the 238 00:13:04,520 --> 00:13:09,120 Speaker 4: Celtic in all religions, you know, there's that belief of demons, 239 00:13:09,240 --> 00:13:11,560 Speaker 4: you know, and so a lot of times, when you know, 240 00:13:11,640 --> 00:13:14,560 Speaker 4: living in the Bible Belt, people ask, well, how do 241 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,080 Speaker 4: you know you're not talking to a demon? 242 00:13:16,160 --> 00:13:20,199 Speaker 3: How do you know you're not being tricked? I personally 243 00:13:20,480 --> 00:13:23,320 Speaker 3: have only dealt with a couple of those entities. 244 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,880 Speaker 4: They're not things that I like to deal with personally, 245 00:13:26,720 --> 00:13:29,720 Speaker 4: and I find that I am not tricked because usually 246 00:13:29,720 --> 00:13:32,720 Speaker 4: I ask questions and they're validated. But there have been 247 00:13:32,760 --> 00:13:36,920 Speaker 4: occasions when I've been around some very negative energy, which 248 00:13:36,960 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 4: you've since it automatically if you're intuitive, and they will 249 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:43,199 Speaker 4: tell you things that are not true, and that's when 250 00:13:43,240 --> 00:13:45,640 Speaker 4: you usually know that they're not good energies. 251 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:50,680 Speaker 2: Exactly what is a ghost? Is it the soul? What 252 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 2: is there an entity behind it? 253 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: What is it? 254 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:54,480 Speaker 3: So? 255 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,959 Speaker 4: I think, from you know, from my perspective, the soul 256 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:01,160 Speaker 4: is a living being that no longer is in their 257 00:14:01,200 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 4: flesh suit. They're in their soul or spirit body now, 258 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:09,679 Speaker 4: so they're not limited to walking around they're not limiting 259 00:14:09,720 --> 00:14:14,320 Speaker 4: it to the physical way of flesh. 260 00:14:14,520 --> 00:14:18,559 Speaker 3: They're just actually as light as air. They're they're parable. 261 00:14:18,679 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 4: They can go places and do things and interact with electricity. 262 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 3: Hence our EMF detectors. 263 00:14:25,120 --> 00:14:29,280 Speaker 4: Will definitely sometimes highlight when they're present. 264 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,560 Speaker 3: But yeah, they're they're They're not like. 265 00:14:32,600 --> 00:14:35,840 Speaker 4: I think we see them ghosts as people that were 266 00:14:35,920 --> 00:14:37,240 Speaker 4: there in their flesh suit. 267 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:40,120 Speaker 3: They're not. They're in their spirit body for sure. 268 00:14:42,160 --> 00:14:43,880 Speaker 2: Have you ever been scared yourself? 269 00:14:45,720 --> 00:14:45,840 Speaker 1: Uh? 270 00:14:46,240 --> 00:14:48,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I try not to watch scary movies and go 271 00:14:48,840 --> 00:14:52,520 Speaker 4: to sleep because they definitely affect my dreams, and then 272 00:14:52,560 --> 00:14:55,560 Speaker 4: I have the craziest scary dreams. But in in a 273 00:14:55,680 --> 00:14:59,720 Speaker 4: ghost setting, yes, I was just recently doing a walking 274 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:04,560 Speaker 4: to where and I often say to the tour people 275 00:15:04,640 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 4: when I'm walking, I'll pass by a real person and 276 00:15:06,960 --> 00:15:09,800 Speaker 4: I'll say, hey, that's a ghost right there. 277 00:15:10,280 --> 00:15:12,800 Speaker 3: I'm surprised you can see him, but it's really a human. 278 00:15:13,160 --> 00:15:17,400 Speaker 4: And last night this guy went really really loud and 279 00:15:17,440 --> 00:15:18,440 Speaker 4: we all jumped. 280 00:15:18,200 --> 00:15:22,080 Speaker 3: Because we weren't expecting it. But in reality with. 281 00:15:22,640 --> 00:15:26,960 Speaker 4: Spirits, yes, I've had things walk behind me, I've had 282 00:15:27,000 --> 00:15:31,800 Speaker 4: things touch me. I was walking someplace and a shadow 283 00:15:31,840 --> 00:15:36,840 Speaker 4: figure just literally walked up and scared the Jesus out 284 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,520 Speaker 4: of me. So I've had to set real good guidelines 285 00:15:40,560 --> 00:15:43,480 Speaker 4: about what is acceptable for me as a medium and 286 00:15:43,520 --> 00:15:46,160 Speaker 4: what is not. And I do not allow them to 287 00:15:46,200 --> 00:15:48,440 Speaker 4: walk up on me like that because it is very 288 00:15:48,480 --> 00:15:51,440 Speaker 4: scary for me. I don't go to children either. 289 00:15:51,960 --> 00:15:56,960 Speaker 2: What creates a haunted house, what makes it that way. 290 00:15:57,520 --> 00:16:01,040 Speaker 4: So there's a lot of different schools, and I might 291 00:16:01,840 --> 00:16:05,720 Speaker 4: be different on this because I've gotten some conversations with 292 00:16:05,800 --> 00:16:09,360 Speaker 4: other mediums about this. A lot of times people will 293 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 4: reach out to a paranormal team and they'll. 294 00:16:11,720 --> 00:16:15,200 Speaker 3: Say, I've got somebody stuck in my house. 295 00:16:16,160 --> 00:16:19,920 Speaker 4: It is haunted, and I need you are your team, 296 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,400 Speaker 4: to come and release them or let them go into 297 00:16:22,400 --> 00:16:25,560 Speaker 4: the light. We watched a lot of movies carolynne go 298 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 4: into the light. There's peace and serenity in the light. 299 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:34,160 Speaker 4: And so my belief, honestly, is that spirits can't be 300 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:35,040 Speaker 4: controlled by me. 301 00:16:35,720 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 3: I can't say go into the light, and here they go. 302 00:16:39,240 --> 00:16:40,960 Speaker 3: I think that spirits aren't stuck. 303 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:43,040 Speaker 4: I think that they come and go as they please 304 00:16:43,160 --> 00:16:46,760 Speaker 4: because they have free will. Sometimes they're in an environment. 305 00:16:46,800 --> 00:16:50,360 Speaker 4: I've seen people stand in an environment because someone is 306 00:16:50,400 --> 00:16:54,560 Speaker 4: smoking cigarettes and they might have cancer and they died 307 00:16:54,600 --> 00:16:57,800 Speaker 4: of cancer, so they're hiding their cigarettes. I've seen other 308 00:16:57,880 --> 00:17:00,960 Speaker 4: people that have come back because because their loved one 309 00:17:01,200 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 4: is depressed or might be having some kind of problems 310 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:08,159 Speaker 4: and they feel they need them, so they're there. I 311 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:13,720 Speaker 4: have met people, unfortunately that have lost two of my 312 00:17:13,960 --> 00:17:17,000 Speaker 4: great people that I just love so much. On the 313 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:21,679 Speaker 4: other side, that have been helpful when people are in 314 00:17:21,720 --> 00:17:26,240 Speaker 4: a place of suicide because that's how they got they 315 00:17:26,280 --> 00:17:29,960 Speaker 4: have appeared to their family, they have appeared to me 316 00:17:30,080 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 4: and other people because there's a need to help. 317 00:17:34,080 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 3: They're helpers. On the other side, there were helpers here, 318 00:17:36,960 --> 00:17:38,480 Speaker 3: but they're definitely not stuck. 319 00:17:38,600 --> 00:17:42,280 Speaker 4: And that's a bad hip peeve of my pet peeve, 320 00:17:43,680 --> 00:17:47,160 Speaker 4: thinking that we control the spirit body when we don't. 321 00:17:47,200 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: That's ego in my opinion. 322 00:17:49,560 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 2: Are most spirits friendly in your opinion. 323 00:17:53,720 --> 00:17:57,800 Speaker 4: Yes, because most spirits that come back are really truly 324 00:17:58,880 --> 00:17:59,960 Speaker 4: here for a purpose. 325 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 3: Yes, they're here to. 326 00:18:02,240 --> 00:18:05,360 Speaker 4: Guide and help heal us and to give us insight. 327 00:18:05,840 --> 00:18:07,879 Speaker 4: And a lot of it comes from prayer, you know, 328 00:18:08,000 --> 00:18:14,120 Speaker 4: when when I have prayed for individuals to be guided 329 00:18:14,440 --> 00:18:18,800 Speaker 4: by their loved ones or to be to be given information, insight, 330 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:22,360 Speaker 4: internal insight, that prayer sometimes. 331 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:23,359 Speaker 3: Will bring them a. 332 00:18:25,880 --> 00:18:29,879 Speaker 4: Group of people, their guides, our loved ones, our ancestry 333 00:18:29,880 --> 00:18:33,560 Speaker 4: around to help walk them through this life that's difficult 334 00:18:33,600 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 4: at that time. But yes, there are good ones that 335 00:18:36,359 --> 00:18:38,640 Speaker 4: come and they love us. And they're bad ones too, 336 00:18:38,760 --> 00:18:40,080 Speaker 4: but they're far in between. 337 00:18:40,760 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: Listen to more Coast to Coast Am every weeknight at 338 00:18:44,080 --> 00:18:47,000 Speaker 1: one a m. Eastern and go to Coast to coastam 339 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,120 Speaker 1: dot com for more