Speaker 1: It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of nine O two one. Oh mg,
Speaker 1: so oh we're one. I just fell over. Sorry, I
Speaker 1: know I'm so riveting, but so my bestie and co
Speaker 1: host Jen is away this week. So while the cats away,
Speaker 1: the Mice show play, Amy and I are here and
Speaker 1: we're going to jump in being a little surprised for you.
Speaker 1: We're actually not going to jump into the episode. Are
Speaker 1: you punking me right now? We're a little bit. Yes.
Speaker 1: So we decided, because Jenny's not here, we wanted to
Speaker 1: take this opportunity to do a Donna deep dive because
Speaker 1: it's like, okay, wait, this is like really the time
Speaker 1: to do it. Oh my god. So I wore the
Speaker 1: right altfit, Oh my god. First of all, you on point.
Speaker 1: Tori is full sunflower sweatshirt literally could match the hat perfectly,
Speaker 1: and a crop. Well okay, so this will bring me.
Speaker 1: What's a Donna deep dive? It's we're digging into Donna
Speaker 1: to dissect her and to dig into everything Donna. So okay,
Speaker 1: some Donna super fans. But but first I have a
Speaker 1: few Donna questions before we bring on everybody, Wait, the
Speaker 1: superfans are coming on. So we did the Brenda versus
Speaker 1: Kelly debate. Yes, and so we thought, oh, this is
Speaker 1: like the perfect time. We've never done a deep dive
Speaker 1: into Donna, like we do little things. And I always
Speaker 1: talked about like Donna gets sort of forgotten sometimes or
Speaker 1: she's like the story of my life. Donna and I
Speaker 1: are so similar. Okay, So I have some Donna questions
Speaker 1: and some you've answered, but I want to refresh, you know,
Speaker 1: everyone's memories and we have some new people. So it's like,
Speaker 1: first of all, how did Yeah, I know how you
Speaker 1: got the part, but tell everybody how you actually became
Speaker 1: Donna and the challenges of convincing your dad to let
Speaker 1: you be Donna. Okay, So I got the part of
Speaker 1: Donna because I pretended to be someone else and they
Speaker 1: had no idea who I was, and I magically just
Speaker 1: got the role because I'm such a great actress. I
Speaker 1: am a guide actress. But that aside, I totally got
Speaker 1: the role because of my dad, obviously, but I think
Speaker 1: it's sixteen. I truly believed, I truly believe that I
Speaker 1: got that part on my own. So here's the thing.
Speaker 1: I had an agent. I had my own agent. I
Speaker 1: had done Saved by the Bell, Tonic Saved by the
Speaker 1: Bell part Nerdy Tory. I had had my first co
Speaker 1: star role on a show on CBS called The Wizard,
Speaker 1: and I was feeling real good about myself. I'd started
Speaker 1: a couple of school plays, and then I was a
Speaker 1: school I was. I was at Westlake School for Girls,
Speaker 1: which is now Harvard Westlake. Um. So yeah. So I
Speaker 1: would always go through my dad's briefcase because I wanted
Speaker 1: to be a producer, loved what he did. On the weekends,
Speaker 1: he would have me go in and I'd be like, click,
Speaker 1: click his old school briefcase, take out all his scripts,
Speaker 1: bring them out to him at the pool. He would
Speaker 1: sit there and go through every script and dog ear
Speaker 1: the pages and um and with not a sharpie, a
Speaker 1: bic pen, not a ballpoint. Yes, he would make notes
Speaker 1: and rewrite lines by the end fill. Yes, he would
Speaker 1: change everything. And then I would go back and put
Speaker 1: him in his briefcase. So one day I opened it
Speaker 1: up and it's aid Class of bever Hills and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, interesting, and he said, yes, I'm doing
Speaker 1: this show and it's all about teenagers. Um, and they
Speaker 1: go to school in Beverly Hills. So I went through it,
Speaker 1: which I always did see anything from me anythink for me?
Speaker 1: Do you think inspired? I don't think I inspired it
Speaker 1: because Darren Starr created it and we didn't know each other.
Speaker 1: But definitely there was some experiences put layered throughout the years.
Speaker 1: So Darren went to your dad and then they continue
Speaker 1: to develop it, I believe. So I don't know that exactly. Okay,
Speaker 1: somehow they do each other, yes, or he my dad
Speaker 1: wanted Fox to want to do something with my dad
Speaker 1: and continue that relationship. Maybe they had found Darren. I'm
Speaker 1: not sure who came first. Um, the Darren North the
Speaker 1: Fox so um. So I went through and I didn't
Speaker 1: say anything to my dad. I called my agent, Irish Burton,
Speaker 1: who was like the big like Hollywood kids agents, and
Speaker 1: I said, my dad has the script. I want to
Speaker 1: go in and read. I don't want to tell him.
Speaker 1: So when she was like she had, she was like, oh, honey,
Speaker 1: they're gonna know it's you. And I was like no,
Speaker 1: but I, oh honey, come on um and I was
Speaker 1: like no, no, no, Let's make up a name so
Speaker 1: it won't be Tori. Spelling, and I was like, it'll
Speaker 1: be Oh my god, I blinked down the name I
Speaker 1: always used, was it Tory Richards. Richards is a good name,
Speaker 1: which happened to be the name of Heather Lockler's character
Speaker 1: in Hollywood Wives that my dad had just done and
Speaker 1: I just seen on TV. So again, no one would know.
Speaker 1: UM loved Heather. Heather, she his lucky penny. He would
Speaker 1: call her, and she was very lucky. So I went
Speaker 1: in and read for the part of Kelly Taylor. Um,
Speaker 1: and then my dad came in and said, Um. By
Speaker 1: then he knew I had gone in and auditioned, and
Speaker 1: he said, babe, he said, ironically, sounds like Irish Burton
Speaker 1: right now. But uh, I think you're you're going to
Speaker 1: be on the show. And I think I got the
Speaker 1: part of like friend one or something. Okay, So he said, okay, yes,
Speaker 1: I will let you do this. You'll be on. Yes,
Speaker 1: but you were not Donna. I don't believe, but I
Speaker 1: could be wrong. Um, and someone else will know the
Speaker 1: answer to this. I don't even know if Donna had
Speaker 1: a name in the very first How did Donna get
Speaker 1: her name? I don't know how many people call you
Speaker 1: Donna on the street. Um, the three things I turned
Speaker 1: to in life, it's Tori, Donna, and Mom. Yeah constantly. Yeah,
Speaker 1: and even like I'll go to people's houses for a
Speaker 1: dinner party and it's like someone who's having the chic
Speaker 1: dinner party and they totally slip and will open the
Speaker 1: door and say hi Donna, and I don't say anything.
Speaker 1: I'm like hi, and then they're like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm so sorry. I'm like, it's okay. I respond to both.
Speaker 1: It's fine. I get it because I've definitely had my
Speaker 1: moments where I have to like somebody, but it's okay,
Speaker 1: we're interchangeable. But um, yeah, I remember when they did
Speaker 1: assign the name of Donna. I was like, oh man,
Speaker 1: that's the dorkiest name ever. What I did I don't know,
Speaker 1: because it was sort of my fifties ish like yes, yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: so I felt like an old school housewife and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh man, like this isn't a cool name.
Speaker 1: But I couldn't say anything. I was just like, you guys,
Speaker 1: just get a script, like the first script, or do
Speaker 1: you get like a page like a biography of like
Speaker 1: who they envisioned Donna to be. No, so you create
Speaker 1: from the script who Donna is. I did, because at
Speaker 1: the time Donna wasn't anybody. She was just you know, friends,
Speaker 1: and there were there were like two others. There was
Speaker 1: me and two others. In the pilot. Oh wow, Okay,
Speaker 1: there's an o G picture of like the cool girl
Speaker 1: gang and it's Jenny like leading it, and then there's
Speaker 1: me and two other girls surrounding her. And we were
Speaker 1: all supposed to go on to be like the cool
Speaker 1: girls at school. And then after the pilot it kind
Speaker 1: of did other two girls whoa So when in the
Speaker 1: trajectory did you sort of realize, Okay, Donna is going
Speaker 1: to be the virgin? Or was that something your dad
Speaker 1: really wanted? Man, I don't know. I it didn't come
Speaker 1: from me. I don't know where it came from, because
Speaker 1: I feel like that wouldn't come from my dad. Maybe
Speaker 1: it was I had to do with the religion and
Speaker 1: were Jewish, so it wasn't that. So someone came up
Speaker 1: with him. My dad was probably like, great, you know
Speaker 1: she's gonna be a character that's gonna have a boyfriend. Great,
Speaker 1: let's keep for the virgin. When did you learn that
Speaker 1: David and Donna would be for the long haul essentially,
Speaker 1: or did you could they have broken up at any time?
Speaker 1: You know, throughout and I know there were things there
Speaker 1: were I was never told like this is the ultimate,
Speaker 1: like when the show goes for ten years, would no
Speaker 1: one anticipated like David and Donna will get married in
Speaker 1: the finale? Like so it was never like a planned
Speaker 1: endgame from the beginning. I don't think so maybe I
Speaker 1: don't know. I mean, that wasn't something. And we were
Speaker 1: so young, we didn't have the mindset to be like,
Speaker 1: where's my character going? Like how do we were just
Speaker 1: like in it going so okay? And then I mean,
Speaker 1: I know I have mine, but what do you feel
Speaker 1: are the most iconic moments for Donna? Like what stands
Speaker 1: out when you think about the ten years who what
Speaker 1: stands out the most about Donna? For me, it was
Speaker 1: all about the comedy, just because, like I said, I
Speaker 1: didn't I didn't have a character, and in my mind, um,
Speaker 1: I felt like I couldn't keep up with Jenny and
Speaker 1: Shannon and you know, Gab kind of had her own storyline.
Speaker 1: So I never put myself in that category. But it
Speaker 1: was always Brenda, Kelly and Donna. So I was like
Speaker 1: in my mind, I was like, I'm not as pretty
Speaker 1: as them, I'm not as cool as them. Um, they
Speaker 1: can do drama. Oh my god, that's Tori thinking that.
Speaker 1: But Tori creates Donna. So in my mind, I'm like, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, it's hard when you're sixteen and you don't
Speaker 1: feel good about yourself. Um. I felt good enough about
Speaker 1: myself to be like, I got to do something to
Speaker 1: set myself apart and take charge here. So obviously somewhere
Speaker 1: deep down I pulled it together. But um yeah, and
Speaker 1: I was like, drama wise, well, they can cry and
Speaker 1: do these emotional scenes. I didn't know if I could
Speaker 1: do that, but I knew I could do comedy. That's
Speaker 1: what always I used to entertain people at school and
Speaker 1: I and my friends and family. So I was like, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm just gonna start doing like funny stuff. The writers
Speaker 1: were like, oh, okay, she can do that, and then
Speaker 1: that's what led them to be like, okay, let's start
Speaker 1: writing that direction. So if you were to describe Donna
Speaker 1: in five words, yes, who what are those words? Um? Sweet, funny, fashionable, um, loyal,
Speaker 1: Oh man, I need a fifth um mm hmm help me. No,
Speaker 1: I want you to do it, uh, indecisive. Indecisive because
Speaker 1: the thing that I that you didn't say, but that
Speaker 1: I always notice, is that Donna is the peacemaker. Donna
Speaker 1: is the moral compass. Donna is sort of that helping
Speaker 1: guide these guys. And I think, I don't know if
Speaker 1: that was intentional or now I'm seeing it so much
Speaker 1: more now. But it's like I think about all the
Speaker 1: episodes we've watched, the you know, the Christmas episode on
Speaker 1: the bus when everyone's fighting, Dylan's dad passes away, and
Speaker 1: you're like, this is the right thing and you need
Speaker 1: to all get your leap together. So I think she
Speaker 1: is much stronger and a leader than you Tori ever
Speaker 1: give her credit for, or myself for how much? So
Speaker 1: how much of Donna is tor and how much of
Speaker 1: Tori is Donna? Um? I feel like Donna is all
Speaker 1: Tori except then, like Tori came into her own, but
Speaker 1: Donna stopped because we stopped when I was twenty six
Speaker 1: and I was just starting to come into my own
Speaker 1: and I really didn't hit my stride until my thirties,
Speaker 1: where I was like, look out, I got something to say.
Speaker 1: You know, I can have a voice to you guys. Um,
Speaker 1: and that's when that happened. And I didn't say what
Speaker 1: you think of Donna as the peacemaker because those were
Speaker 1: the scenes that were hardest for me to do because
Speaker 1: it put the spotlight on me and I just wanted
Speaker 1: to like be funny, entertained, fin in. I didn't want
Speaker 1: to be in a little bit more. Yeah, So when
Speaker 1: I had those lines, I would literally like sweat before
Speaker 1: we had to do a take. I was like terrified
Speaker 1: because it was it was so un me. I would
Speaker 1: have like a little voice and just be like do
Speaker 1: what everyone else wanted to do. So for me to
Speaker 1: stand up and take charge of everybody was not in
Speaker 1: my wheelhouse and it was really hard. Do you think
Speaker 1: that of all the characters and the actors, Donna and
Speaker 1: Tory are the most similar, the most like whatever. I
Speaker 1: don't know a fancy word to say, they are the
Speaker 1: most the same. Mm hmm, I don't know. I mean,
Speaker 1: Jason is kind of Brandon like he is. Jason is
Speaker 1: like the opposite of Brandon. He is nice and cool,
Speaker 1: but it's just so Kelly. It's just like Mr Good
Speaker 1: like two shoes, Goody two shoes, and like Jason's very different.
Speaker 1: But I guess in the same likeness that Donna's so sweet,
Speaker 1: but like I have a body side to me like
Speaker 1: Jason would be that version are not the same they
Speaker 1: have like the character, they're not the same. No, I
Speaker 1: don't think so Steve and I and are like not
Speaker 1: the same. Um, I mean like the goofy side is
Speaker 1: iron scoofy side. So yes, and that wasn't originally instinct
Speaker 1: put that in. He's not like assy, like like he
Speaker 1: doesn't have that d wordy jerky thing at all. No,
Speaker 1: he's like the sweetest words. Um okay, I know that everybody,
Speaker 1: all the you know, Donna fans want to come in,
Speaker 1: but I can't do a Donna deep dive without at
Speaker 1: least mentioning Donna Martin graduates. Because we're getting there, we're
Speaker 1: getting closer to that when you were, and we'll dig
Speaker 1: more into it when we do the episode. But like,
Speaker 1: did you ever think that that line would live really
Speaker 1: beyond t shirts thirty years later? No way, No, No,
Speaker 1: I had no idea, and it was probably a lot
Speaker 1: of focus when we got to that script on me
Speaker 1: that I was just like, oh, it makes you uncomfortable again,
Speaker 1: so you kind of whole. So I cringe because like I,
Speaker 1: at least I didn't have to be there and hear
Speaker 1: my name out loud, my name, her name. But it's
Speaker 1: the same thing. It's as if they were all did
Speaker 1: a walk out and chance at Tory spelling graduates and
Speaker 1: I was in a corner like, oh, my name is
Speaker 1: being said. It's the same thing. Is that what people
Speaker 1: say to you the most? Like? Is that the most
Speaker 1: iconic line? Yes, and every single fan always asked me
Speaker 1: to say it to them, yet Donna never said it. Wow,
Speaker 1: I love it. Okay, So the deep dive into Donna continues.
Speaker 1: Misunderstood like sweating, No, it's so good. Is there anything
Speaker 1: that's misunderstood about Donna before we go? Like something that
Speaker 1: fans or the audience thinks, but you were like, I
Speaker 1: never intended Donna to be that. I mean, she was
Speaker 1: originally written I think to be dizzy, but I don't
Speaker 1: think she is ditzy. Like she's very sheet at all
Speaker 1: and had learning challenges, but she was not. She was smart, smart,
Speaker 1: but I think she always believed she wasn't smart. That
Speaker 1: was her thing. But she's exactly like me. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I'm realizing even that more today. How close Donna and
Speaker 1: I are. And do you think that that was over time,
Speaker 1: like the writers just sort of put more of you
Speaker 1: into it, or do you think you put so much
Speaker 1: of your own like insecurities into her. I think it
Speaker 1: was a full on combination. And I don't know. Maybe
Speaker 1: my dad, I don't know, maybe when they said described
Speaker 1: tor to us, so we have like maybe he said
Speaker 1: the stuff that I never even thought he notice, but
Speaker 1: maybe he did. I don't know. I don't know that
Speaker 1: they wrote everything that was exactly me, And unless they
Speaker 1: were like literally like watching us on video camera behind
Speaker 1: the scenes, I don't know how they can know all that.
Speaker 1: When you watch it back now, do you like Donna? Yes? Yes,
Speaker 1: When I watched it back now, I think she's adorable.
Speaker 1: I think I would be friends with her. Um yeah, sorry, no, No,
Speaker 1: I just like I feel like I was such an
Speaker 1: insecure girl, and I look back now and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, Like she was pretty and strong and
Speaker 1: like a leader and like took chances and when I
Speaker 1: thought like I was too insecure and didn't fit in,
Speaker 1: like even the outfit she wore, like I chose to
Speaker 1: wear that, Like I made choices that made me a leader.
Speaker 1: And yet I didn't even know it. And it took
Speaker 1: like thirty years of looking at myself back on camera
Speaker 1: to realize I wish I knew that then. Yeah, oh
Speaker 1: my god, Tori, So is Donna just like does she
Speaker 1: just hold such a special place in your heart? I
Speaker 1: mean I can see because you're emotional and crying. It's
Speaker 1: like she means so much to you. And I think
Speaker 1: now you see it so differently. Wow, definitely, I mean
Speaker 1: do you miss her? Um? I don't miss her because
Speaker 1: I feel like I am her. So I feel like
Speaker 1: I'm like I live with Donna every single day and
Speaker 1: I'm proud of that. And um, you know, it's it's
Speaker 1: like when people do series and movies that are so
Speaker 1: near and dear to fans hearts, and then they don't
Speaker 1: want to be known as that afterwards. That never crossed
Speaker 1: my mind. Like Donna is everything to me. It's like
Speaker 1: Tory and Donna and together we're just one. And I'm
Speaker 1: so proud of that character, everything she stood for. Um
Speaker 1: And yeah, I wish I do, wish we could go
Speaker 1: back and like see where they are now. And like
Speaker 1: it's a bummer that b H and I too didn't
Speaker 1: go on because people, like a lot of the fans
Speaker 1: loved it. A lot of the fans were like, we
Speaker 1: wanted a straightforward reboot, and we're like, well, we were
Speaker 1: going to give you the best of both worlds. If
Speaker 1: he got the season two, if the opportunity came, would
Speaker 1: you do it where it's not kind of how you
Speaker 1: guys did b H, but where it's like a real
Speaker 1: like here or where these characters are now? And what
Speaker 1: would you like to see in Donna? Like is she
Speaker 1: career woman? Does she have kids? Like? Is she happy?
Speaker 1: What is she? Well, we left off with her, although
Speaker 1: sometimes we say like it doesn't count. But the nine
Speaker 1: o two and OL that was on c W, like
Speaker 1: we did get to see a peek at where Donna
Speaker 1: was now. But I got some input, like they said
Speaker 1: what do you want her to be? And I said,
Speaker 1: she's still a fashion designer. Um, they live, you know,
Speaker 1: they live in Japan, Like David is a music producer
Speaker 1: and they have they had a kid. We should do
Speaker 1: those episodes like we did Melrose play. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we really should. But I wasn't happy that we left
Speaker 1: off with Donna, that she and David were separated and
Speaker 1: they were thinking about getting into fource. So then the
Speaker 1: last time we saw Donna, and I'm like, I just
Speaker 1: had the craziest idea. Literally, I just had the craziest
Speaker 1: idea that I need to text. I don't want to
Speaker 1: say it right now because I also think it's like
Speaker 1: so good. I'm gonna text and a way that we
Speaker 1: could find out where they are and what they're doing.
Speaker 1: I'm like, okay, I'm in. I didn't stay tuned. We
Speaker 1: have like Donna super fans, and I can't wait to
Speaker 1: hear what they want to ask and know and what
Speaker 1: they think. Oh my gosh, wait, who's supposed to do
Speaker 1: the Jenny part. We're gonna go to a break and
Speaker 1: then we'll come back. You're just just kidding? Hey, Am
Speaker 1: I supposed to ever do that? No? Okay, I normally
Speaker 1: ever do the break Never? Are you kidding? It's me
Speaker 1: If it was just see if it were just you
Speaker 1: and me, and it is you and me, We'll just
Speaker 1: keep talking. That's so good. Breaks, we'll be back with
Speaker 1: all the Donna details. Oh hi, Hi, how are you?
Speaker 1: I'm good? How are you good? Thank you? I'm Stephanie, Stephanie, Hi, Stephanie,
Speaker 1: I'm Tori. You what you want to say, yeah, I
Speaker 1: not watching you for years. Oh my gosh, thank you. Well. Um, well,
Speaker 1: my producer co host Amy Sugarman surprised me today and
Speaker 1: we're doing a Donna deep dive, which I'm not good
Speaker 1: with all the focus on me. But since you're here, Um,
Speaker 1: do you have any questions or anything you want to
Speaker 1: say about Donna? Um? I had a question. I was
Speaker 1: curious about if you or Jenny or anyone else had
Speaker 1: seen that unauthorized and I know to a no story
Speaker 1: that came out a number of years ago, and what
Speaker 1: you thought of the actor portrayals and how accurate the
Speaker 1: storyline was or not accurate. So that was on Lifetime,
Speaker 1: and UM, it was interesting because I was at it
Speaker 1: before I came out. I was at a party and
Speaker 1: a girl came up to me and this is sorry,
Speaker 1: this is before I knew it was being made. A
Speaker 1: girl came up to me at a party and she said,
Speaker 1: I just auditioned to play you in a nine O
Speaker 1: two and oh movie. And I was like, m hmm,
Speaker 1: what But I had to play it cool and I
Speaker 1: was like, oh, great, great, and I didn't know there
Speaker 1: was one being made. But she was super cute. And bubbly,
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, she would be a good Donna.
Speaker 1: Um when I saw it. She didn't go on to
Speaker 1: be the part, but um, yeah, that's how I found
Speaker 1: out about it. And I thought it was well done.
Speaker 1: I thought all the actors were adorable. I think it's
Speaker 1: super hard to play somebody else, especially when I guess
Speaker 1: when I'm not close to all those people, to ever
Speaker 1: be like, oh, they nailed it. It's just a tough thing.
Speaker 1: But um, I really really liked the actress that played
Speaker 1: Donna or Tori, Tori and Donna. Um. There were some
Speaker 1: inaccurate stories and I remember thinking, oh, I wish they
Speaker 1: had reached out to me at the time, because I
Speaker 1: would have I remember details like no other and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I would have told them how that story actually went. Um.
Speaker 1: So there were some like hints at truths of some stories,
Speaker 1: but then they like, we're wrong. So whoever told the
Speaker 1: stories didn't know them correctly. Okay, interesting, but I thought
Speaker 1: it was well made. Yeah. What was your favorite storyline
Speaker 1: for Donna through all ten seasons? Oh, that's a tough one. Um.
Speaker 1: It was any time I got to do comedy, like
Speaker 1: physical comedy. Um, I'm a big is love Lucy fan
Speaker 1: so UM reminding some of the episodes reminded me of that,
Speaker 1: like Spring Dance with the Big Red Dress, UM, Halloween
Speaker 1: when I was the Mermaid and I couldn't move. UM.
Speaker 1: I also loved like I got to do, like dramatic
Speaker 1: stuff like Donna almost not graduating at prom UM. Obviously
Speaker 1: in Donna Martin graduates UM. And then the season finale
Speaker 1: marrying David, Donna and David's wedding, I love, It's really
Speaker 1: special to me. That's a good episode. And then between UM,
Speaker 1: David and Noah trying to remember who else was your
Speaker 1: love interests on this series? Did you have a a
Speaker 1: favorite one outside of David. I'll tell you David, I will.
Speaker 1: It gets personal because I really loved working with Jamie Walters,
Speaker 1: even though he played Ray Pruett and it was a
Speaker 1: great relationship. And then they turned into a not great
Speaker 1: relationship and he was abusive, so that wasn't good, but
Speaker 1: we were like best friends. We became best friends, we
Speaker 1: started working together, so I loved working with him. UM.
Speaker 1: And obviously, yes, David and Brian my number one, and
Speaker 1: that UM. I loved Donna's relationship with Joe and I
Speaker 1: think I loved her relationship with Joe because for me,
Speaker 1: like at the time, when I was young, I always
Speaker 1: picked the bad boy in real life, and so I
Speaker 1: finally got to see through my character what it was
Speaker 1: like to have a nice relationship with someone that was
Speaker 1: really just a good guy and good to her. And
Speaker 1: that's what Joe represented to Donna. UM. So it was
Speaker 1: nice that one of us got to have that, even
Speaker 1: though I never did at the time. Yeah, how is
Speaker 1: UM Your relationship with Katherine Cannon who played your mom? Amazing? UM,
Speaker 1: she was so amazing to work with. I loved working
Speaker 1: with Katherine. She was such a great mom. Even though
Speaker 1: Folice was questionable, Katherine was nothing like that. She was
Speaker 1: super nurturing and supportive UM, and was always there for
Speaker 1: me on a mother level throughout the years. So, UM,
Speaker 1: I loved working with her. I think we have to
Speaker 1: move on to the next call. But your question is
Speaker 1: very amazing. Oh my god, thank you for taking the
Speaker 1: time to talk with me. This was Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Hi Daniel, Oh my goodness, this is crazy.
Speaker 1: Hey do you love my my Dylan hair? Um? Really
Speaker 1: good job. How much tears prayed? Did that take? UM?
Speaker 1: It's all about the blow dryer. And then I just do,
Speaker 1: oh wow, nice, well played. Um, where are you calling from.
Speaker 1: I'm from Connecticut, Connecticut. Nice. Do you have any questions
Speaker 1: for me? Um? Yes? So, as a huge fan of
Speaker 1: nine Oh Twoe Oh, I've been watching literally since it
Speaker 1: started with my mom. Nice. Yeah you guys, and then
Speaker 1: Party five was right after. I love Party of five.
Speaker 1: Now I've been a Party of five. I know, I
Speaker 1: love following you. Thank you. Yeah you're welcome, but yeah,
Speaker 1: your family is beautiful, so you're welcome. So my question
Speaker 1: is because I love hair, um, and there are so
Speaker 1: many hairstyles throughout the ten seasons of and I was one, know,
Speaker 1: so I'm dying to know, like which ones were your
Speaker 1: favorites of your own like haircuts, color styles, and like
Speaker 1: which one was like your least favorite or like you're
Speaker 1: like you look back and you're like, oh what was
Speaker 1: I think? Yeah, Okay, I got some answers for you. So,
Speaker 1: I mean, obviously I love like Donna's iconic do like
Speaker 1: kind of before I went platinum, like where she I
Speaker 1: did that hair myself where I would literally take hair spray,
Speaker 1: take my fingers, like pull out like from my temples
Speaker 1: my hair spray it. Go to the other side. I
Speaker 1: pull out, like, break my fingernails through my temples, through
Speaker 1: my hair spray it, take my beans, put them up,
Speaker 1: spray it and go. Um. I love that one. And
Speaker 1: then I decided to go platinum that one. I actually
Speaker 1: that that was a decision I made on a Friday
Speaker 1: night with a box of hair color in my bathroom
Speaker 1: with my best friend, and uh, it turned totally like
Speaker 1: kind of orange, so then we had to get a
Speaker 1: color corrected. Um. And then I was platinum. And then
Speaker 1: I decided I wanted a bob because they were in
Speaker 1: but I went to someone and they cut my hair. Um.
Speaker 1: So first I had the bob, and then I wanted
Speaker 1: to go like kind of a line, and then I
Speaker 1: wanted to go a little shorter like the bob, and
Speaker 1: someone cut it really short. So I ended up with
Speaker 1: almost like a short hair do and long in the front.
Speaker 1: And that made me miserable because my hair was my
Speaker 1: identity and I had nothing to hide with. So when
Speaker 1: I look back on those episodes, I like cringe. Um.
Speaker 1: And at the time time, the red hair was what
Speaker 1: I thought was a good choice, But looking back thirty
Speaker 1: years later, I'm very sad that Donna married David with
Speaker 1: red hair, because I know not Donna. Like I don't know,
Speaker 1: I just can't handle it. Like we're gonna get to
Speaker 1: it in the show in nine MG where we're like
Speaker 1: talking about Donna and she'll have red hair, and I'm
Speaker 1: just gonna be like, that's not you, girl, Like it's
Speaker 1: not you. So anyway, I know, I actually loved though
Speaker 1: season six your your guys junior year of college when
Speaker 1: you when you had the platinum but it was like
Speaker 1: parted in the middle and it was a little like
Speaker 1: longer in front and then shortened back. I like, love,
Speaker 1: I thought you were on point that whole season. Like
Speaker 1: I was just about to say that your outfits, like
Speaker 1: and when you were dating Joe the football player, Like
Speaker 1: I just thought that whole season you were on point.
Speaker 1: Thank you. Like I feel like, besides being the iconic
Speaker 1: initial Donna, that was my favorite look um the down
Speaker 1: the middle, perfect hair length, dark lip. That's why I
Speaker 1: wear it today, Like yeah, you have like flip line
Speaker 1: or something going on like a gloss sometimes. I don't know.
Speaker 1: It was just you looked great and hot. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. I remember I used to wear um nails.
Speaker 1: Like I would be in the in the makeup trailer
Speaker 1: changing my nail color in between scenes. We used to
Speaker 1: have this um polish. It was called hard candy and
Speaker 1: they put like the gel like rings on the polishes
Speaker 1: and they sent it to us and it was all
Speaker 1: different colors. And I remember at the time all the
Speaker 1: other girls were like, who would put colors on their nails?
Speaker 1: That's crazy? And I was like, I'll do it, And
Speaker 1: so then I became obsessed with it. So if I
Speaker 1: was wearing a yellow outfit, I would come in and
Speaker 1: paint my short nails yellow and then I would be purple.
Speaker 1: And I just remember all the girls being like, what
Speaker 1: is she doing? And now I look back and I'm like,
Speaker 1: on point, But you can't not talk about the curls.
Speaker 1: When I thought that was the coolest hair. And I
Speaker 1: also thought all the episodes where you were supposedly in France,
Speaker 1: Donna looked amazing. That was like kind of her o
Speaker 1: G hair, Like three seasons. That is true. That is true,
Speaker 1: And it was shot during the summer and it was
Speaker 1: on the back lot of Universal. I just remember it
Speaker 1: being like over a hundred degrees because it's like in
Speaker 1: Burbank and it was like, is that Burbank now close
Speaker 1: to it? And it was so hot. I think it
Speaker 1: was frizz a lot of it, but it gave me
Speaker 1: very a lot of volumes. So that was good. Those parachutes.
Speaker 1: You know, we're in the back lot of Universal. A
Speaker 1: little bit of both sorry to disappoint and mostly disappoint
Speaker 1: myself because I saw that script and I'm not gonna lie.
Speaker 1: I'm like, Shannon, We're going to Paris, and I'm like, nope,
Speaker 1: We're going to Universal Studios. Okay? Um? And oh the
Speaker 1: curls Amy's referring to. So those curls Donna would have,
Speaker 1: like the almost spiral like sausage curls and yeah, and
Speaker 1: then you make your hair like super stick straight at
Speaker 1: the top and put like a bobby pin and then
Speaker 1: those curls. So that was inspired because I love Drew
Speaker 1: Barrymore at the time, and I people would always say like, oh,
Speaker 1: you guys kind of look alike. And when she was
Speaker 1: in Um Boys on the Side, Yes, the best movie,
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, and she had those curls in that.
Speaker 1: And so next season I came to work and I
Speaker 1: was going to wear those curls. I know you had
Speaker 1: those curls in the episode where Slade attacked you in
Speaker 1: the apartment and David came and saved the day. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, I forgot about that episode, but you'll get
Speaker 1: to it. I know every episode I've seen this year.
Speaker 1: I've watched the series over and over like dozens of times.
Speaker 1: Is it fair to say I think I love you?
Speaker 1: I love you more periods of my life. You're awesome.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, thank you. This was great. If you
Speaker 1: want to follow me smooth jazz one zero zero seven. Okay,
Speaker 1: I got you, wonderful, I got you. And that's my
Speaker 1: boyfriend too in the photo. Oh really yeah, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: Jess is adorable. Okay, I love you, Daniel, I love
Speaker 1: you too. Thank you so much. Bye bye. Hello. What's
Speaker 1: your name? My name is tairo Hi. Where are you
Speaker 1: calling from. I'm from Japan. Hi. Japan is on my
Speaker 1: bucket list number one place in the world I want
Speaker 1: to go to. I've never been. I want to go
Speaker 1: so badly. You should come. It's a really pla Oh
Speaker 1: my god, I think I would love it. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: I look all the stuff behind you. You have a
Speaker 1: stab T shirt. You're blowing my mind and I have
Speaker 1: your thank you son. Oh my gosh, I love it.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I gotta find that stab T shirt.
Speaker 1: That is amazing. This is so cool. Oh my gosh. Yeah,
Speaker 1: they're making scream stix now and I'm like, oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: please put a cameo of me in it. I want
Speaker 1: to be in it so bad. Do you have a
Speaker 1: question for me? Yes, I do. My Christian is this
Speaker 1: is my favorite look on you. And I was wondering
Speaker 1: if you ever do that style again? M hmm. I
Speaker 1: actually really did like that hairstyle. So so that's when
Speaker 1: I had dark hair, and then I made it a
Speaker 1: little funky with some blonde in it. I don't know.
Speaker 1: Do you think I'm too old to do something like that.
Speaker 1: I don't think so. I know. I just wanted to
Speaker 1: hear you say it. And so that outfit I was
Speaker 1: always like adding things like I would be like, oh
Speaker 1: can we add like little like pearls or and butterflies.
Speaker 1: I loved butterflies back then. I still do, and so
Speaker 1: we would put like butterflies in my hair, and so
Speaker 1: we put butterflies on that dress. So I was always
Speaker 1: d I ying that was your original dress. It was
Speaker 1: wardrobe bought the dress and then I wanted to add
Speaker 1: butterflies to it. That's cool. But like always on the show,
Speaker 1: when I'd wear like little braids or little clips all
Speaker 1: over my hair, that was always me being like, what
Speaker 1: can we add? What can we do? Let's do something
Speaker 1: more different, Let's take a chance, because like fashion, like fashion,
Speaker 1: hair and makeup, that was like one area I could
Speaker 1: really like go for it and take a chance. That's
Speaker 1: what I love about. You know something? Were you born
Speaker 1: and raised in Japan? Yes? I was going and raised.
Speaker 1: How did you discover nine O two one oh? Like?
Speaker 1: When did it come to you? I don't know how
Speaker 1: old you are or did you discover it later on
Speaker 1: DVD streaming? How did you become a fan? Uh? Nine
Speaker 1: oh two on old started to started airing a few
Speaker 1: years and eight it did in the States, And when
Speaker 1: I first watched, I was like eight nine and I
Speaker 1: at the time I didn't know any That's what I
Speaker 1: was gonna say. Was it in English subtitles? What was
Speaker 1: it translated? How did you Japanese stub Japanese doubling Japanese dubbing?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, I wonder, really, yes, have you rewatched
Speaker 1: it again? I wonder if, now that you speak English,
Speaker 1: if there were jokes or things that lost in translation
Speaker 1: that we're very American, you know what I mean? Whoa,
Speaker 1: what a? What a fascinating experience. Um. Sorry, You're the
Speaker 1: reason I started earning English, really, yes, Oh my gosh,
Speaker 1: because I wanted to watch your movies and genres with
Speaker 1: your real, real voice and understand what you're saying. Oh
Speaker 1: my gosh, that means so much. Um, how different? Like
Speaker 1: how different the girl that did the voice of Donna?
Speaker 1: How different was it than my voice? It's very different?
Speaker 1: But her voice was good too. Well I like yours better,
Speaker 1: Thank you. That's like one of my dreams is to
Speaker 1: meet whoever did the voice of Donna in every language,
Speaker 1: because obviously we were all over the world. So I
Speaker 1: would love to meet the actresses that did it for
Speaker 1: you know, ten seasons. They all had to do it.
Speaker 1: So well. Do you have any the questions? Oh? Yes, Uh,
Speaker 1: during you changed a lot. Uh you changed your hairstyle
Speaker 1: and colored a lot. Was that your choice? That was
Speaker 1: totally my choice? Um, but we definitely had to get
Speaker 1: clearance from the producers to change our hairstyles, color cuts,
Speaker 1: um more So they just wanted to know because they
Speaker 1: always wanted to write it into the script. So if
Speaker 1: you notice, like anytime there's a major hair change on anybody,
Speaker 1: like one of the other characters will say like, oh
Speaker 1: nice haircut, or oh you got your hair color done,
Speaker 1: like oh yeah, I just did my hair. They wanted
Speaker 1: to make sure it was like very consistent. But yeah,
Speaker 1: it was totally any hairstyles on the show. We're all
Speaker 1: our choices. You have good choice, thank you. I like
Speaker 1: to mix it up. Well, I'm so glad we could
Speaker 1: do this. This is amazing. Thank you so much, thank
Speaker 1: you so much to thank you. I love you. I
Speaker 1: love you too. Hi Adra, Hi, how are you? I'm great?
Speaker 1: How are you? It's nice to meet you. Nice to
Speaker 1: meet you. Where are you calling from West Virginia? Hi?
Speaker 1: How is it in West Virginia? Well, unfortunately, right after
Speaker 1: someone contacted me to do this, my power went out.
Speaker 1: So it's the lighting is not so good in here,
Speaker 1: and it's going to get hot this afternoon. But other
Speaker 1: than that, good I'm sorry. Well you look you look great,
Speaker 1: so well. Thank you. And good news is it's a podcast,
Speaker 1: so don't worry so it's all good. I'm the only
Speaker 1: one seeing you and I think you look fantastic. Thank you.
Speaker 1: Do you have any questions for me? I do have
Speaker 1: a few questions. Um. So the first one I have,
Speaker 1: which I feel like I already know the answer to this,
Speaker 1: but is will we ever get to see Donna and
Speaker 1: then Gang again on TV? The answer from me is
Speaker 1: I really really hope. So, um, yeah, I really hope.
Speaker 1: So you know, we did our best with b H
Speaker 1: nine two one to bring everyone back together and to
Speaker 1: do something new and refreshing and and while giving the
Speaker 1: fans what they wanted. Um, because you know season two,
Speaker 1: we were going to do a hybrid of back with
Speaker 1: the Gang in nine two and is their characters and
Speaker 1: behind the scenes as the real life alter egos obviously,
Speaker 1: but um, that didn't go on. So I hope somehow
Speaker 1: someday we get to do something altogether again and kind
Speaker 1: of see where the real Gang kind of left off.
Speaker 1: That would be great. AT would definitely I would definitely
Speaker 1: change in Thank you. Okay. Um, so my next question is, um,
Speaker 1: other than David, who would if you would like to
Speaker 1: see Donna end up with on the show? Um? I
Speaker 1: mean I always say like it depends, because I feel
Speaker 1: like same is in real life. Like we have different
Speaker 1: relationships in our life that are meant to be at
Speaker 1: different points in our life, and when you evolved, maybe
Speaker 1: it's not, you know, the right thing for you. I
Speaker 1: always say I really loved Donna's relationship with Joe, just
Speaker 1: because he was so good to her and so kind
Speaker 1: and just such a great guy. And I think she
Speaker 1: needed that, you know, even though David was her soul mate,
Speaker 1: like he had cheated on her, you know, like she
Speaker 1: needed kind of that self confidence booster. Um. But other
Speaker 1: than ending up with David, I don't know. Maybe. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't know. I think I was always meant to
Speaker 1: be David, So I can't picture her with anyone else. Um.
Speaker 1: I mean right before David, she was with Noah, I
Speaker 1: like as well Joe. I think Joe, I don't know.
Speaker 1: I guess their timing was just off. They were young,
Speaker 1: Like maybe maybe I don't know, maybe if it hadn't
Speaker 1: worked out with David, maybe like in her thirties, she
Speaker 1: would have met up with Joe again and been like,
Speaker 1: oh what was I thinking? Now I'm ready for him? Yeah. Um,
Speaker 1: any story lines that you really disliked for Donna disliked, Yes,
Speaker 1: Um well, I literally was best friends with Jamie Walters
Speaker 1: in real life, so when they turned that storyline around.
Speaker 1: As an actress, it was very compelling for me to
Speaker 1: be able to act those moments and um, and go
Speaker 1: through that relationship, that abusive relationship on TV. But UM,
Speaker 1: I was really sad because I knew once that was happening,
Speaker 1: that there was no going back and that you know,
Speaker 1: was true. The audience couldn't accept him even if he
Speaker 1: became good. So, UM, I didn't like that storyline. Um
Speaker 1: any others I didn't like, I don't know. It was
Speaker 1: such a fun ride. I kind of went into it
Speaker 1: like every time I got a new storyline, Like I mean,
Speaker 1: I guess technically, like I didn't like when Donna was
Speaker 1: like on pills and stuff like if I had to
Speaker 1: think about it now, but like at the time, it
Speaker 1: was a challenge for me as an actress to do
Speaker 1: those different storylines. Um, like the storyline where she was
Speaker 1: being stalked and then she was held up in the
Speaker 1: in the radio station. Um. I did like being the
Speaker 1: weather girl though, um. But but things like that, I
Speaker 1: always thought of Donna as like the fun like comedy relief.
Speaker 1: So when she got like dramatic storylines early on, I
Speaker 1: was nervous about doing. But once I got into the
Speaker 1: series and it found my confidence, you know, halfway through,
Speaker 1: then I was like, oh, bring them on. They were
Speaker 1: really exciting for me. Yeah. I love the um Paris
Speaker 1: scene when you're eating the brains and spit it out
Speaker 1: real quickly. Thank you, I added that, thank you, um.
Speaker 1: And then the last question I have is, um, you
Speaker 1: as Tori, did you ever feel slighted in the early years,
Speaker 1: um that like the bigger stories kind of went to
Speaker 1: Shannon and Jenny or were you okay with that? You know,
Speaker 1: how'd you feel about that? I never felt slighted because
Speaker 1: I never went into nine two thinking that I would
Speaker 1: be a lead Kara her or expecting it. Um. I
Speaker 1: think being the producer's daughter, I always undersell sold myself
Speaker 1: because I wanted to fit in and I didn't want
Speaker 1: anyone to think like I expected, you know, to be
Speaker 1: the lead. I expected to have scenes. So that was
Speaker 1: so like innately a part of me that it was
Speaker 1: always this pleasant surprise when I got any lines, you know, Um,
Speaker 1: But it did make me work harder because I've always
Speaker 1: had this thing. I'm like the and this continues my story,
Speaker 1: my journey in my lifetime. Like I'm definitely the little
Speaker 1: engine that could. Um. I think no is the first
Speaker 1: word towards yes. So um. Whenever I didn't get something,
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, I'm just gonna show them that
Speaker 1: I could do it, that you know, I could do
Speaker 1: this and make the most of what I did have,
Speaker 1: and that inevitably lead to bigger and bigger things. And
Speaker 1: that's still my belief in life. I'm a huge fan
Speaker 1: of the show. I started watching like I think I
Speaker 1: was like ten or eleven when the show came on,
Speaker 1: and I've watched it probably six or seven times over
Speaker 1: since then. And I listened to the podcast all ten
Speaker 1: seasons six or seven times, so probably probably so yeah,
Speaker 1: you're amazing. I started watching them again, like I was
Speaker 1: listening to the first few seasons without rewatching them, and
Speaker 1: then one season three head I started I'm following along again.
Speaker 1: So I love that we drew it back in time. Well,
Speaker 1: thank you so much. Oh my gosh, Addre, thank you
Speaker 1: so much. Wait, can I ask you what is the
Speaker 1: print that's behind you? Sorry? It's um, Yeah, my stepdaughter
Speaker 1: is an artist. She's only fifteen and she probably made
Speaker 1: that like a few years ago. I love it. Sorry,
Speaker 1: I was just drawn to it the whole time we
Speaker 1: were talking, so I wanted to ask you before you went.
Speaker 1: A lot of people are when they come in. This
Speaker 1: was a most lit place I could find in the house.
Speaker 1: So you get you get that as well. It's a beauty,
Speaker 1: a full Tell her I love it. Well, I'm trying
Speaker 1: to get her started on it. Like I said, she's
Speaker 1: fifteen and she's all the time asking for new shows
Speaker 1: to watch, and so it's on my list No. Two
Speaker 1: when I was on my list for her to start.
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, Well tell her I loved her artwork
Speaker 1: and maybe she'll join you in the rewatch next week.
Speaker 1: Thank you as by Adra. Bye. Okay you guys. Um.
Speaker 1: That was pretty unexpected and totally amazing. Those were some
Speaker 1: unbelievable callers and I loved it. Ie currently loved it.
Speaker 1: This was all about Donna on my age. My heart
Speaker 1: is beaming, so thank you guys, and my better half
Speaker 1: will be back next week, so join us. Do your
Speaker 1: homework though, and we are gonna be going through episode
Speaker 1: twenty four from season three, perfectly perfect. I can't wait.
Speaker 1: Um and I'll see you guys and talk to you
Speaker 1: next week. Love you,