WEBVTT - A Dramatic Deep Dive into our Darling Donna 0:00:00.240 --> 0:00:10.160 It's with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hi you guys, 0:00:10.200 --> 0:00:13.640 welcome to another episode of nine O two one. Oh mg, 0:00:14.520 --> 0:00:22.079 so oh we're one. I just fell over. Sorry, I 0:00:22.120 --> 0:00:26.960 know I'm so riveting, but so my bestie and co 0:00:27.080 --> 0:00:31.720 host Jen is away this week. So while the cats away, 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:34.880 the Mice show play, Amy and I are here and 0:00:35.240 --> 0:00:38.000 we're going to jump in being a little surprised for you. 0:00:38.200 --> 0:00:44.239 We're actually not going to jump into the episode. Are 0:00:44.280 --> 0:00:47.000 you punking me right now? We're a little bit. Yes. 0:00:47.120 --> 0:00:52.199 So we decided, because Jenny's not here, we wanted to 0:00:52.240 --> 0:01:01.240 take this opportunity to do a Donna deep dive because 0:01:01.280 --> 0:01:03.520 it's like, okay, wait, this is like really the time 0:01:03.560 --> 0:01:05.280 to do it. Oh my god. So I wore the 0:01:05.360 --> 0:01:07.959 right altfit, Oh my god. First of all, you on point. 0:01:08.200 --> 0:01:14.520 Tori is full sunflower sweatshirt literally could match the hat perfectly, 0:01:14.760 --> 0:01:21.000 and a crop. Well okay, so this will bring me. 0:01:21.040 --> 0:01:25.440 What's a Donna deep dive? It's we're digging into Donna 0:01:25.600 --> 0:01:33.760 to dissect her and to dig into everything Donna. So okay, 0:01:34.520 --> 0:01:37.840 some Donna super fans. But but first I have a 0:01:37.880 --> 0:01:41.240 few Donna questions before we bring on everybody, Wait, the 0:01:41.240 --> 0:01:45.000 superfans are coming on. So we did the Brenda versus 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:48.280 Kelly debate. Yes, and so we thought, oh, this is 0:01:48.320 --> 0:01:50.880 like the perfect time. We've never done a deep dive 0:01:50.920 --> 0:01:53.560 into Donna, like we do little things. And I always 0:01:53.640 --> 0:01:58.080 talked about like Donna gets sort of forgotten sometimes or 0:01:58.240 --> 0:02:02.360 she's like the story of my life. Donna and I 0:02:02.400 --> 0:02:06.280 are so similar. Okay, So I have some Donna questions 0:02:06.480 --> 0:02:09.720 and some you've answered, but I want to refresh, you know, 0:02:09.919 --> 0:02:12.080 everyone's memories and we have some new people. So it's like, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:16.440 first of all, how did Yeah, I know how you 0:02:16.520 --> 0:02:19.680 got the part, but tell everybody how you actually became 0:02:19.720 --> 0:02:24.040 Donna and the challenges of convincing your dad to let 0:02:24.120 --> 0:02:30.080 you be Donna. Okay, So I got the part of 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:33.639 Donna because I pretended to be someone else and they 0:02:33.639 --> 0:02:37.040 had no idea who I was, and I magically just 0:02:37.120 --> 0:02:42.520 got the role because I'm such a great actress. I 0:02:42.560 --> 0:02:45.480 am a guide actress. But that aside, I totally got 0:02:45.480 --> 0:02:47.799 the role because of my dad, obviously, but I think 0:02:47.840 --> 0:02:51.400 it's sixteen. I truly believed, I truly believe that I 0:02:51.440 --> 0:02:54.160 got that part on my own. So here's the thing. 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:56.240 I had an agent. I had my own agent. I 0:02:56.240 --> 0:03:00.760 had done Saved by the Bell, Tonic Saved by the 0:03:00.760 --> 0:03:03.720 Bell part Nerdy Tory. I had had my first co 0:03:03.800 --> 0:03:06.040 star role on a show on CBS called The Wizard, 0:03:06.360 --> 0:03:08.600 and I was feeling real good about myself. I'd started 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:11.040 a couple of school plays, and then I was a 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:15.360 school I was. I was at Westlake School for Girls, 0:03:15.360 --> 0:03:20.000 which is now Harvard Westlake. Um. So yeah. So I 0:03:20.000 --> 0:03:23.400 would always go through my dad's briefcase because I wanted 0:03:23.440 --> 0:03:26.240 to be a producer, loved what he did. On the weekends, 0:03:26.520 --> 0:03:28.360 he would have me go in and I'd be like, click, 0:03:28.400 --> 0:03:31.520 click his old school briefcase, take out all his scripts, 0:03:31.840 --> 0:03:33.840 bring them out to him at the pool. He would 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:35.960 sit there and go through every script and dog ear 0:03:36.040 --> 0:03:39.920 the pages and um and with not a sharpie, a 0:03:40.000 --> 0:03:48.800 bic pen, not a ballpoint. Yes, he would make notes 0:03:48.840 --> 0:03:53.960 and rewrite lines by the end fill. Yes, he would 0:03:54.000 --> 0:03:56.200 change everything. And then I would go back and put 0:03:56.240 --> 0:03:58.440 him in his briefcase. So one day I opened it 0:03:58.520 --> 0:04:00.560 up and it's aid Class of bever Hills and I 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.280 was like, oh, interesting, and he said, yes, I'm doing 0:04:03.320 --> 0:04:06.520 this show and it's all about teenagers. Um, and they 0:04:06.600 --> 0:04:08.840 go to school in Beverly Hills. So I went through it, 0:04:09.160 --> 0:04:11.280 which I always did see anything from me anythink for me? 0:04:11.360 --> 0:04:13.960 Do you think inspired? I don't think I inspired it 0:04:13.960 --> 0:04:17.640 because Darren Starr created it and we didn't know each other. 0:04:18.080 --> 0:04:22.920 But definitely there was some experiences put layered throughout the years. 0:04:23.640 --> 0:04:26.880 So Darren went to your dad and then they continue 0:04:26.920 --> 0:04:32.040 to develop it, I believe. So I don't know that exactly. Okay, 0:04:32.320 --> 0:04:36.120 somehow they do each other, yes, or he my dad 0:04:36.160 --> 0:04:38.279 wanted Fox to want to do something with my dad 0:04:38.560 --> 0:04:41.240 and continue that relationship. Maybe they had found Darren. I'm 0:04:41.240 --> 0:04:44.560 not sure who came first. Um, the Darren North the 0:04:44.560 --> 0:04:48.880 Fox so um. So I went through and I didn't 0:04:48.880 --> 0:04:51.560 say anything to my dad. I called my agent, Irish Burton, 0:04:51.600 --> 0:04:54.840 who was like the big like Hollywood kids agents, and 0:04:54.880 --> 0:04:56.840 I said, my dad has the script. I want to 0:04:56.880 --> 0:04:59.599 go in and read. I don't want to tell him. 0:04:59.760 --> 0:05:02.640 So when she was like she had, she was like, oh, honey, 0:05:02.640 --> 0:05:05.440 they're gonna know it's you. And I was like no, 0:05:05.720 --> 0:05:08.839 but I, oh honey, come on um and I was 0:05:08.880 --> 0:05:10.760 like no, no, no, Let's make up a name so 0:05:10.880 --> 0:05:13.880 it won't be Tori. Spelling, and I was like, it'll 0:05:13.920 --> 0:05:15.960 be Oh my god, I blinked down the name I 0:05:15.960 --> 0:05:19.719 always used, was it Tory Richards. Richards is a good name, 0:05:20.120 --> 0:05:22.800 which happened to be the name of Heather Lockler's character 0:05:23.120 --> 0:05:25.640 in Hollywood Wives that my dad had just done and 0:05:25.680 --> 0:05:28.560 I just seen on TV. So again, no one would know. 0:05:29.279 --> 0:05:34.200 UM loved Heather. Heather, she his lucky penny. He would 0:05:34.240 --> 0:05:38.240 call her, and she was very lucky. So I went 0:05:38.279 --> 0:05:41.080 in and read for the part of Kelly Taylor. Um, 0:05:42.440 --> 0:05:45.800 and then my dad came in and said, Um. By 0:05:45.839 --> 0:05:49.159 then he knew I had gone in and auditioned, and 0:05:49.520 --> 0:05:53.359 he said, babe, he said, ironically, sounds like Irish Burton 0:05:53.480 --> 0:05:58.160 right now. But uh, I think you're you're going to 0:05:58.240 --> 0:06:00.360 be on the show. And I think I got the 0:06:00.400 --> 0:06:03.640 part of like friend one or something. Okay, So he said, okay, yes, 0:06:03.680 --> 0:06:06.520 I will let you do this. You'll be on. Yes, 0:06:08.040 --> 0:06:11.359 but you were not Donna. I don't believe, but I 0:06:11.400 --> 0:06:14.320 could be wrong. Um, and someone else will know the 0:06:14.320 --> 0:06:15.960 answer to this. I don't even know if Donna had 0:06:15.960 --> 0:06:19.000 a name in the very first How did Donna get 0:06:19.040 --> 0:06:22.640 her name? I don't know how many people call you 0:06:22.680 --> 0:06:27.799 Donna on the street. Um, the three things I turned 0:06:27.839 --> 0:06:33.320 to in life, it's Tori, Donna, and Mom. Yeah constantly. Yeah, 0:06:33.480 --> 0:06:35.760 and even like I'll go to people's houses for a 0:06:35.800 --> 0:06:38.840 dinner party and it's like someone who's having the chic 0:06:38.920 --> 0:06:41.039 dinner party and they totally slip and will open the 0:06:41.040 --> 0:06:44.160 door and say hi Donna, and I don't say anything. 0:06:44.200 --> 0:06:47.279 I'm like hi, and then they're like, oh my god, 0:06:47.320 --> 0:06:50.039 I'm so sorry. I'm like, it's okay. I respond to both. 0:06:50.160 --> 0:06:52.920 It's fine. I get it because I've definitely had my 0:06:53.000 --> 0:06:59.960 moments where I have to like somebody, but it's okay, 0:07:00.560 --> 0:07:03.560 we're interchangeable. But um, yeah, I remember when they did 0:07:03.600 --> 0:07:06.000 assign the name of Donna. I was like, oh man, 0:07:06.120 --> 0:07:10.280 that's the dorkiest name ever. What I did I don't know, 0:07:10.400 --> 0:07:15.240 because it was sort of my fifties ish like yes, yeah, okay, 0:07:15.280 --> 0:07:18.120 so I felt like an old school housewife and I 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:21.000 was like, oh man, like this isn't a cool name. 0:07:21.040 --> 0:07:23.160 But I couldn't say anything. I was just like, you guys, 0:07:23.400 --> 0:07:26.120 just get a script, like the first script, or do 0:07:26.200 --> 0:07:29.880 you get like a page like a biography of like 0:07:30.200 --> 0:07:35.400 who they envisioned Donna to be. No, so you create 0:07:36.160 --> 0:07:41.320 from the script who Donna is. I did, because at 0:07:41.360 --> 0:07:45.600 the time Donna wasn't anybody. She was just you know, friends, 0:07:45.720 --> 0:07:48.280 and there were there were like two others. There was 0:07:48.320 --> 0:07:51.840 me and two others. In the pilot. Oh wow, Okay, 0:07:51.960 --> 0:07:54.880 there's an o G picture of like the cool girl 0:07:54.960 --> 0:07:58.200 gang and it's Jenny like leading it, and then there's 0:07:58.280 --> 0:08:01.080 me and two other girls surrounding her. And we were 0:08:01.120 --> 0:08:03.320 all supposed to go on to be like the cool 0:08:03.360 --> 0:08:06.040 girls at school. And then after the pilot it kind 0:08:06.040 --> 0:08:12.240 of did other two girls whoa So when in the 0:08:12.280 --> 0:08:16.720 trajectory did you sort of realize, Okay, Donna is going 0:08:16.760 --> 0:08:20.360 to be the virgin? Or was that something your dad 0:08:20.400 --> 0:08:24.880 really wanted? Man, I don't know. I it didn't come 0:08:24.920 --> 0:08:27.920 from me. I don't know where it came from, because 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:30.080 I feel like that wouldn't come from my dad. Maybe 0:08:30.120 --> 0:08:33.440 it was I had to do with the religion and 0:08:33.559 --> 0:08:37.600 were Jewish, so it wasn't that. So someone came up 0:08:37.600 --> 0:08:39.679 with him. My dad was probably like, great, you know 0:08:40.000 --> 0:08:43.600 she's gonna be a character that's gonna have a boyfriend. Great, 0:08:43.640 --> 0:08:47.160 let's keep for the virgin. When did you learn that 0:08:47.480 --> 0:08:52.800 David and Donna would be for the long haul essentially, 0:08:53.480 --> 0:08:55.959 or did you could they have broken up at any time? 0:08:56.400 --> 0:09:01.199 You know, throughout and I know there were things there 0:09:01.240 --> 0:09:04.600 were I was never told like this is the ultimate, 0:09:04.720 --> 0:09:07.679 like when the show goes for ten years, would no 0:09:07.720 --> 0:09:10.920 one anticipated like David and Donna will get married in 0:09:11.000 --> 0:09:13.560 the finale? Like so it was never like a planned 0:09:13.679 --> 0:09:18.480 endgame from the beginning. I don't think so maybe I 0:09:18.520 --> 0:09:20.600 don't know. I mean, that wasn't something. And we were 0:09:20.679 --> 0:09:23.000 so young, we didn't have the mindset to be like, 0:09:23.240 --> 0:09:26.120 where's my character going? Like how do we were just 0:09:26.160 --> 0:09:30.160 like in it going so okay? And then I mean, 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.480 I know I have mine, but what do you feel 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:37.560 are the most iconic moments for Donna? Like what stands 0:09:37.559 --> 0:09:40.880 out when you think about the ten years who what 0:09:41.080 --> 0:09:44.760 stands out the most about Donna? For me, it was 0:09:44.800 --> 0:09:48.240 all about the comedy, just because, like I said, I 0:09:48.240 --> 0:09:51.480 didn't I didn't have a character, and in my mind, um, 0:09:51.520 --> 0:09:54.040 I felt like I couldn't keep up with Jenny and 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:58.000 Shannon and you know, Gab kind of had her own storyline. 0:09:58.080 --> 0:10:00.480 So I never put myself in that category. But it 0:10:00.559 --> 0:10:03.640 was always Brenda, Kelly and Donna. So I was like 0:10:03.960 --> 0:10:06.040 in my mind, I was like, I'm not as pretty 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.640 as them, I'm not as cool as them. Um, they 0:10:08.679 --> 0:10:12.439 can do drama. Oh my god, that's Tori thinking that. 0:10:14.040 --> 0:10:17.640 But Tori creates Donna. So in my mind, I'm like, uh, 0:10:17.720 --> 0:10:20.560 you know, it's hard when you're sixteen and you don't 0:10:20.600 --> 0:10:23.600 feel good about yourself. Um. I felt good enough about 0:10:23.640 --> 0:10:25.600 myself to be like, I got to do something to 0:10:25.600 --> 0:10:28.560 set myself apart and take charge here. So obviously somewhere 0:10:28.600 --> 0:10:31.560 deep down I pulled it together. But um yeah, and 0:10:31.600 --> 0:10:34.760 I was like, drama wise, well, they can cry and 0:10:34.800 --> 0:10:36.800 do these emotional scenes. I didn't know if I could 0:10:36.840 --> 0:10:39.000 do that, but I knew I could do comedy. That's 0:10:39.000 --> 0:10:41.280 what always I used to entertain people at school and 0:10:41.320 --> 0:10:44.360 I and my friends and family. So I was like, Okay, 0:10:44.400 --> 0:10:48.760 I'm just gonna start doing like funny stuff. The writers 0:10:48.840 --> 0:10:52.199 were like, oh, okay, she can do that, and then 0:10:52.240 --> 0:10:54.080 that's what led them to be like, okay, let's start 0:10:54.080 --> 0:10:56.680 writing that direction. So if you were to describe Donna 0:10:56.920 --> 0:11:08.079 in five words, yes, who what are those words? Um? Sweet, funny, fashionable, um, loyal, 0:11:09.480 --> 0:11:18.800 Oh man, I need a fifth um mm hmm help me. No, 0:11:19.120 --> 0:11:27.040 I want you to do it, uh, indecisive. Indecisive because 0:11:27.080 --> 0:11:29.640 the thing that I that you didn't say, but that 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:33.840 I always notice, is that Donna is the peacemaker. Donna 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:38.240 is the moral compass. Donna is sort of that helping 0:11:38.320 --> 0:11:40.560 guide these guys. And I think, I don't know if 0:11:40.559 --> 0:11:44.320 that was intentional or now I'm seeing it so much 0:11:44.400 --> 0:11:46.880 more now. But it's like I think about all the 0:11:46.880 --> 0:11:51.320 episodes we've watched, the you know, the Christmas episode on 0:11:51.360 --> 0:11:55.240 the bus when everyone's fighting, Dylan's dad passes away, and 0:11:55.280 --> 0:11:58.040 you're like, this is the right thing and you need 0:11:58.080 --> 0:12:01.000 to all get your leap together. So I think she 0:12:01.240 --> 0:12:06.560 is much stronger and a leader than you Tori ever 0:12:06.640 --> 0:12:12.280 give her credit for, or myself for how much? So 0:12:12.320 --> 0:12:14.640 how much of Donna is tor and how much of 0:12:14.679 --> 0:12:23.040 Tori is Donna? Um? I feel like Donna is all 0:12:23.080 --> 0:12:26.440 Tori except then, like Tori came into her own, but 0:12:26.520 --> 0:12:32.000 Donna stopped because we stopped when I was twenty six 0:12:32.160 --> 0:12:34.960 and I was just starting to come into my own 0:12:35.120 --> 0:12:37.040 and I really didn't hit my stride until my thirties, 0:12:37.040 --> 0:12:40.160 where I was like, look out, I got something to say. 0:12:40.240 --> 0:12:44.079 You know, I can have a voice to you guys. Um, 0:12:44.120 --> 0:12:46.400 and that's when that happened. And I didn't say what 0:12:46.480 --> 0:12:48.760 you think of Donna as the peacemaker because those were 0:12:48.760 --> 0:12:51.280 the scenes that were hardest for me to do because 0:12:51.320 --> 0:12:53.439 it put the spotlight on me and I just wanted 0:12:53.440 --> 0:12:56.079 to like be funny, entertained, fin in. I didn't want 0:12:56.080 --> 0:12:58.640 to be in a little bit more. Yeah, So when 0:12:58.679 --> 0:13:02.680 I had those lines, I would literally like sweat before 0:13:02.679 --> 0:13:04.720 we had to do a take. I was like terrified 0:13:05.000 --> 0:13:06.880 because it was it was so un me. I would 0:13:06.920 --> 0:13:08.800 have like a little voice and just be like do 0:13:08.840 --> 0:13:11.080 what everyone else wanted to do. So for me to 0:13:11.240 --> 0:13:14.200 stand up and take charge of everybody was not in 0:13:14.240 --> 0:13:17.360 my wheelhouse and it was really hard. Do you think 0:13:17.480 --> 0:13:22.680 that of all the characters and the actors, Donna and 0:13:22.720 --> 0:13:26.959 Tory are the most similar, the most like whatever. I 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:29.840 don't know a fancy word to say, they are the 0:13:29.880 --> 0:13:36.719 most the same. Mm hmm, I don't know. I mean, 0:13:36.840 --> 0:13:47.439 Jason is kind of Brandon like he is. Jason is 0:13:47.480 --> 0:13:51.360 like the opposite of Brandon. He is nice and cool, 0:13:51.520 --> 0:13:56.640 but it's just so Kelly. It's just like Mr Good 0:13:56.800 --> 0:14:00.800 like two shoes, Goody two shoes, and like Jason's very different. 0:14:00.800 --> 0:14:03.480 But I guess in the same likeness that Donna's so sweet, 0:14:03.559 --> 0:14:05.320 but like I have a body side to me like 0:14:05.440 --> 0:14:10.559 Jason would be that version are not the same they 0:14:10.600 --> 0:14:14.440 have like the character, they're not the same. No, I 0:14:14.440 --> 0:14:16.839 don't think so Steve and I and are like not 0:14:16.920 --> 0:14:23.440 the same. Um, I mean like the goofy side is 0:14:23.480 --> 0:14:26.920 iron scoofy side. So yes, and that wasn't originally instinct 0:14:28.000 --> 0:14:31.840 put that in. He's not like assy, like like he 0:14:31.880 --> 0:14:35.840 doesn't have that d wordy jerky thing at all. No, 0:14:36.080 --> 0:14:40.400 he's like the sweetest words. Um okay, I know that everybody, 0:14:40.440 --> 0:14:42.600 all the you know, Donna fans want to come in, 0:14:42.840 --> 0:14:46.280 but I can't do a Donna deep dive without at 0:14:46.360 --> 0:14:51.720 least mentioning Donna Martin graduates. Because we're getting there, we're 0:14:51.800 --> 0:14:56.040 getting closer to that when you were, and we'll dig 0:14:56.040 --> 0:14:57.920 more into it when we do the episode. But like, 0:14:58.080 --> 0:15:00.280 did you ever think that that line would live really 0:15:00.280 --> 0:15:06.320 beyond t shirts thirty years later? No way, No, No, 0:15:07.160 --> 0:15:10.600 I had no idea, and it was probably a lot 0:15:10.600 --> 0:15:12.360 of focus when we got to that script on me 0:15:12.520 --> 0:15:15.200 that I was just like, oh, it makes you uncomfortable again, 0:15:15.240 --> 0:15:18.960 so you kind of whole. So I cringe because like I, 0:15:19.040 --> 0:15:20.760 at least I didn't have to be there and hear 0:15:20.800 --> 0:15:23.200 my name out loud, my name, her name. But it's 0:15:23.200 --> 0:15:25.720 the same thing. It's as if they were all did 0:15:25.720 --> 0:15:27.960 a walk out and chance at Tory spelling graduates and 0:15:28.040 --> 0:15:30.080 I was in a corner like, oh, my name is 0:15:30.120 --> 0:15:33.120 being said. It's the same thing. Is that what people 0:15:33.160 --> 0:15:35.360 say to you the most? Like? Is that the most 0:15:35.520 --> 0:15:39.400 iconic line? Yes, and every single fan always asked me 0:15:39.520 --> 0:15:42.800 to say it to them, yet Donna never said it. Wow, 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:50.479 I love it. Okay, So the deep dive into Donna continues. 0:15:51.560 --> 0:15:54.880 Misunderstood like sweating, No, it's so good. Is there anything 0:15:54.920 --> 0:15:57.800 that's misunderstood about Donna before we go? Like something that 0:15:57.920 --> 0:16:01.960 fans or the audience thinks, but you were like, I 0:16:02.000 --> 0:16:06.400 never intended Donna to be that. I mean, she was 0:16:07.080 --> 0:16:11.760 originally written I think to be dizzy, but I don't 0:16:11.760 --> 0:16:16.120 think she is ditzy. Like she's very sheet at all 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:22.120 and had learning challenges, but she was not. She was smart, smart, 0:16:22.160 --> 0:16:25.080 but I think she always believed she wasn't smart. That 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:28.920 was her thing. But she's exactly like me. Oh my god, 0:16:29.040 --> 0:16:32.120 I'm realizing even that more today. How close Donna and 0:16:32.200 --> 0:16:36.720 I are. And do you think that that was over time, 0:16:36.800 --> 0:16:39.360 like the writers just sort of put more of you 0:16:39.480 --> 0:16:42.480 into it, or do you think you put so much 0:16:42.520 --> 0:16:47.200 of your own like insecurities into her. I think it 0:16:47.320 --> 0:16:52.080 was a full on combination. And I don't know. Maybe 0:16:52.120 --> 0:16:54.480 my dad, I don't know, maybe when they said described 0:16:54.520 --> 0:16:57.600 tor to us, so we have like maybe he said 0:16:58.440 --> 0:17:00.600 the stuff that I never even thought he notice, but 0:17:00.720 --> 0:17:04.200 maybe he did. I don't know. I don't know that 0:17:04.440 --> 0:17:07.879 they wrote everything that was exactly me, And unless they 0:17:07.880 --> 0:17:11.240 were like literally like watching us on video camera behind 0:17:11.240 --> 0:17:13.120 the scenes, I don't know how they can know all that. 0:17:13.320 --> 0:17:19.639 When you watch it back now, do you like Donna? Yes? Yes, 0:17:19.720 --> 0:17:22.920 When I watched it back now, I think she's adorable. 0:17:23.119 --> 0:17:31.080 I think I would be friends with her. Um yeah, sorry, no, No, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.800 I just like I feel like I was such an 0:17:33.800 --> 0:17:36.159 insecure girl, and I look back now and I'm like, 0:17:36.200 --> 0:17:39.359 oh my god, Like she was pretty and strong and 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.680 like a leader and like took chances and when I 0:17:42.720 --> 0:17:44.679 thought like I was too insecure and didn't fit in, 0:17:44.760 --> 0:17:47.080 like even the outfit she wore, like I chose to 0:17:47.119 --> 0:17:50.200 wear that, Like I made choices that made me a leader. 0:17:50.240 --> 0:17:51.960 And yet I didn't even know it. And it took 0:17:52.000 --> 0:17:54.320 like thirty years of looking at myself back on camera 0:17:54.359 --> 0:17:57.879 to realize I wish I knew that then. Yeah, oh 0:17:57.920 --> 0:18:03.000 my god, Tori, So is Donna just like does she 0:18:03.119 --> 0:18:06.600 just hold such a special place in your heart? I 0:18:06.600 --> 0:18:09.160 mean I can see because you're emotional and crying. It's 0:18:09.200 --> 0:18:12.480 like she means so much to you. And I think 0:18:12.560 --> 0:18:17.320 now you see it so differently. Wow, definitely, I mean 0:18:18.040 --> 0:18:23.680 do you miss her? Um? I don't miss her because 0:18:23.720 --> 0:18:26.520 I feel like I am her. So I feel like 0:18:26.560 --> 0:18:29.320 I'm like I live with Donna every single day and 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.920 I'm proud of that. And um, you know, it's it's 0:18:32.960 --> 0:18:35.760 like when people do series and movies that are so 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:37.720 near and dear to fans hearts, and then they don't 0:18:37.720 --> 0:18:40.520 want to be known as that afterwards. That never crossed 0:18:40.520 --> 0:18:43.639 my mind. Like Donna is everything to me. It's like 0:18:45.119 --> 0:18:48.520 Tory and Donna and together we're just one. And I'm 0:18:48.560 --> 0:18:52.560 so proud of that character, everything she stood for. Um 0:18:52.640 --> 0:18:54.879 And yeah, I wish I do, wish we could go 0:18:54.960 --> 0:18:57.120 back and like see where they are now. And like 0:18:57.320 --> 0:18:59.359 it's a bummer that b H and I too didn't 0:18:59.400 --> 0:19:02.200 go on because people, like a lot of the fans 0:19:02.200 --> 0:19:03.439 loved it. A lot of the fans were like, we 0:19:03.480 --> 0:19:05.639 wanted a straightforward reboot, and we're like, well, we were 0:19:05.640 --> 0:19:07.199 going to give you the best of both worlds. If 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:12.320 he got the season two, if the opportunity came, would 0:19:12.359 --> 0:19:16.520 you do it where it's not kind of how you 0:19:16.560 --> 0:19:21.119 guys did b H, but where it's like a real 0:19:21.400 --> 0:19:26.160 like here or where these characters are now? And what 0:19:26.240 --> 0:19:29.320 would you like to see in Donna? Like is she 0:19:29.480 --> 0:19:33.560 career woman? Does she have kids? Like? Is she happy? 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:37.679 What is she? Well, we left off with her, although 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:41.240 sometimes we say like it doesn't count. But the nine 0:19:41.240 --> 0:19:43.159 o two and OL that was on c W, like 0:19:43.280 --> 0:19:44.920 we did get to see a peek at where Donna 0:19:45.000 --> 0:19:48.720 was now. But I got some input, like they said 0:19:48.760 --> 0:19:50.200 what do you want her to be? And I said, 0:19:50.240 --> 0:19:53.439 she's still a fashion designer. Um, they live, you know, 0:19:53.520 --> 0:19:56.080 they live in Japan, Like David is a music producer 0:19:56.760 --> 0:20:00.320 and they have they had a kid. We should do 0:20:00.359 --> 0:20:02.800 those episodes like we did Melrose play. Oh my god, 0:20:02.840 --> 0:20:06.680 we really should. But I wasn't happy that we left 0:20:06.720 --> 0:20:09.959 off with Donna, that she and David were separated and 0:20:09.960 --> 0:20:12.080 they were thinking about getting into fource. So then the 0:20:12.160 --> 0:20:16.800 last time we saw Donna, and I'm like, I just 0:20:16.840 --> 0:20:20.480 had the craziest idea. Literally, I just had the craziest 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:22.359 idea that I need to text. I don't want to 0:20:22.359 --> 0:20:24.399 say it right now because I also think it's like 0:20:26.119 --> 0:20:31.000 so good. I'm gonna text and a way that we 0:20:31.040 --> 0:20:33.680 could find out where they are and what they're doing. 0:20:34.920 --> 0:20:39.280 I'm like, okay, I'm in. I didn't stay tuned. We 0:20:39.400 --> 0:20:41.720 have like Donna super fans, and I can't wait to 0:20:41.760 --> 0:20:44.280 hear what they want to ask and know and what 0:20:44.320 --> 0:20:47.639 they think. Oh my gosh, wait, who's supposed to do 0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:50.919 the Jenny part. We're gonna go to a break and 0:20:50.920 --> 0:20:55.800 then we'll come back. You're just just kidding? Hey, Am 0:20:55.840 --> 0:21:00.680 I supposed to ever do that? No? Okay, I normally 0:21:00.720 --> 0:21:04.840 ever do the break Never? Are you kidding? It's me 0:21:05.040 --> 0:21:07.040 If it was just see if it were just you 0:21:07.119 --> 0:21:09.119 and me, and it is you and me, We'll just 0:21:09.200 --> 0:21:12.920 keep talking. That's so good. Breaks, we'll be back with 0:21:12.960 --> 0:21:29.399 all the Donna details. Oh hi, Hi, how are you? 0:21:29.840 --> 0:21:35.720 I'm good? How are you good? Thank you? I'm Stephanie, Stephanie, Hi, Stephanie, 0:21:35.840 --> 0:21:40.000 I'm Tori. You what you want to say, yeah, I 0:21:40.240 --> 0:21:46.040 not watching you for years. Oh my gosh, thank you. Well. Um, well, 0:21:46.119 --> 0:21:48.800 my producer co host Amy Sugarman surprised me today and 0:21:48.800 --> 0:21:52.320 we're doing a Donna deep dive, which I'm not good 0:21:52.359 --> 0:21:55.520 with all the focus on me. But since you're here, Um, 0:21:56.960 --> 0:21:58.720 do you have any questions or anything you want to 0:21:58.760 --> 0:22:02.720 say about Donna? Um? I had a question. I was 0:22:02.800 --> 0:22:07.760 curious about if you or Jenny or anyone else had 0:22:07.840 --> 0:22:10.879 seen that unauthorized and I know to a no story 0:22:10.920 --> 0:22:13.600 that came out a number of years ago, and what 0:22:13.640 --> 0:22:18.280 you thought of the actor portrayals and how accurate the 0:22:18.359 --> 0:22:22.679 storyline was or not accurate. So that was on Lifetime, 0:22:22.920 --> 0:22:28.560 and UM, it was interesting because I was at it 0:22:28.600 --> 0:22:31.640 before I came out. I was at a party and 0:22:31.800 --> 0:22:34.840 a girl came up to me and this is sorry, 0:22:34.880 --> 0:22:36.919 this is before I knew it was being made. A 0:22:36.960 --> 0:22:38.840 girl came up to me at a party and she said, 0:22:38.840 --> 0:22:41.879 I just auditioned to play you in a nine O 0:22:42.000 --> 0:22:44.400 two and oh movie. And I was like, m hmm, 0:22:45.119 --> 0:22:47.159 what But I had to play it cool and I 0:22:47.200 --> 0:22:50.480 was like, oh, great, great, and I didn't know there 0:22:50.520 --> 0:22:53.600 was one being made. But she was super cute. And bubbly, 0:22:53.640 --> 0:22:55.240 and I was like, oh, she would be a good Donna. 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:57.919 Um when I saw it. She didn't go on to 0:22:58.040 --> 0:23:00.680 be the part, but um, yeah, that's how I found 0:23:00.680 --> 0:23:04.160 out about it. And I thought it was well done. 0:23:04.200 --> 0:23:07.320 I thought all the actors were adorable. I think it's 0:23:07.320 --> 0:23:11.120 super hard to play somebody else, especially when I guess 0:23:11.160 --> 0:23:13.800 when I'm not close to all those people, to ever 0:23:13.880 --> 0:23:16.880 be like, oh, they nailed it. It's just a tough thing. 0:23:17.040 --> 0:23:20.399 But um, I really really liked the actress that played 0:23:20.680 --> 0:23:24.359 Donna or Tori, Tori and Donna. Um. There were some 0:23:24.800 --> 0:23:29.199 inaccurate stories and I remember thinking, oh, I wish they 0:23:29.200 --> 0:23:32.639 had reached out to me at the time, because I 0:23:32.680 --> 0:23:35.879 would have I remember details like no other and I'm like, oh, 0:23:35.920 --> 0:23:38.840 I would have told them how that story actually went. Um. 0:23:39.119 --> 0:23:42.800 So there were some like hints at truths of some stories, 0:23:42.840 --> 0:23:45.879 but then they like, we're wrong. So whoever told the 0:23:45.920 --> 0:23:50.040 stories didn't know them correctly. Okay, interesting, but I thought 0:23:50.040 --> 0:23:54.240 it was well made. Yeah. What was your favorite storyline 0:23:54.640 --> 0:24:00.720 for Donna through all ten seasons? Oh, that's a tough one. Um. 0:24:00.760 --> 0:24:02.639 It was any time I got to do comedy, like 0:24:02.680 --> 0:24:06.400 physical comedy. Um, I'm a big is love Lucy fan 0:24:06.680 --> 0:24:09.760 so UM reminding some of the episodes reminded me of that, 0:24:09.880 --> 0:24:12.760 like Spring Dance with the Big Red Dress, UM, Halloween 0:24:12.800 --> 0:24:16.560 when I was the Mermaid and I couldn't move. UM. 0:24:16.720 --> 0:24:19.360 I also loved like I got to do, like dramatic 0:24:19.400 --> 0:24:23.520