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Speaker 1: The Charlie Kirk Show starts now.

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Speaker 2: And to borrow a page from Admiral Ernest King in

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Speaker 2: World War Two, We've decided to share the ocean with Iran.

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Speaker 3: We've given them the bottom half.

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Speaker 2: We've damaged or sunk over one hundred and twenty of

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Speaker 2: their navy ships, with battle damage assessments pending for many more.

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Speaker 3: We see oftentimes we have to wait a few days

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Speaker 3: on battle damage assessment to get the real number. Their

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Speaker 3: surface fleet is no longer a factor. Their submarines they

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Speaker 3: once had eleven are gone. Their military ports are crippled.

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Speaker 4: President Trump is about to meet with Japan's Prime minister.

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Speaker 4: This is a critical moment, the President demanding US allies

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Speaker 4: contribute war as we, along with Israel, knock down a

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Speaker 4: nuclear thirsty enemy in Iran and protect key oil shipping

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Speaker 4: lanes in the Middle East.

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Speaker 1: A new joint statement.

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Speaker 4: From Japan and other allies signaling they are ready to

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Speaker 4: help secure the shipping now through the Strait of Hormuz

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Speaker 4: and support efforts to stabilize global energy supplies. Now, that's

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Speaker 4: counter to what some of them have previously said.

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Speaker 5: Joe Kent, the former director of the United States National

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Speaker 5: Counter Terror Center, This is from Semaphore. He just resigned.

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Speaker 5: He's now under FBI investigation for allegedly leaking classified information,

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Speaker 5: and the investigation predates his departure.

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Speaker 6: In the coming days, we may unsanction the Iranian oil

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Speaker 6: that's on the water. It's about one hundred and forty

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Speaker 6: million barrels, so depending on how you count it, that's

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Speaker 6: ten days to two weeks of supply that the Iranians

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Speaker 6: had been pushing out that would have all.

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Speaker 7: Gone to China.

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Speaker 6: In essence, we will be using the Iranian barrels against

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Speaker 6: the Iranians to keep the price down for the next

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Speaker 6: ten or fourteen days as we continue this campaign. So

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Speaker 6: we have we have lots of believers.

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Speaker 7: We've got plenty more that we can do.

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Speaker 2: Of ours two hundred billion dollars, I think that number

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Speaker 2: could move. Obviously, it takes money to kill bad guys.

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Speaker 2: So we're going back to Congress and folks there to

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Speaker 2: ensure that we're properly funded for what's been done for

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Speaker 2: what we may have to do in the future. An

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Speaker 2: investment like this is meant to say, hey, we'll replace

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Speaker 2: anything that was spent. And now that we're reviving our

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Speaker 2: defense industrial base and rebuilding the arsenal freedom and cutting deals.

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Speaker 2: Like our great deputy secretaries here is doing long lead

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Speaker 2: times on exquisite munitions. We're going to be refilled faster

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Speaker 2: than anyone imagined. And I think you know, we're also

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Speaker 2: still dealing with the environment that Joe.

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Speaker 3: Biden created, which was which was depleting.

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Speaker 2: Those stockholds and not sending them to our own military

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Speaker 2: but Ukraine. Ultimately, we think this should be these these

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Speaker 2: munitions are better spent in our own interests at this point,

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Speaker 2: and this kind of funding.

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Speaker 3: Bill is going to ensure that we're properly funded.

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Speaker 8: Filming for there to answer questions. It's the evening. We

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Speaker 8: came at their convenience. We gave them as really as

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Speaker 8: much time as they wanted, and one congresswoman scream c

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Speaker 8: Span wasn't in there, so she didn't want to ask questions.

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Speaker 8: Yet all day long they've been on social media saying

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Speaker 8: they had all these questions. We said, there, say anything

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Speaker 8: you want to ask us, ask us anything you want

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Speaker 8: to ask us, and they screamed, c Span was it?

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Speaker 9: They are one of them?

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Speaker 8: And then they stormed out of the meeting.

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Speaker 10: So they didn't ask any questions. They did not ask

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Speaker 10: any questions. I'm like, my goodness, this is the Attorney General.

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Speaker 7: You've been complaining. And this is why I.

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Speaker 3: Think they did that, because they've.

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Speaker 10: Worked with some of you in the media to try

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Speaker 10: to create a false narrative that there's a cover up.

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Speaker 3: Does it look like a cover up?

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Speaker 10: The Attorney General and Blanche and all the top brass

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Speaker 10: at the ELJ in here to answer questions, and yet

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Speaker 10: they don't ask a single question. The only questions they

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Speaker 10: ast will you commit to coming in for a deposition?

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Speaker 10: Will you commit to come in for They didn't have

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Speaker 10: a single question.

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Speaker 8: Less than one percent error todd Do you want to.

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Speaker 7: Add to that? Yeah, no, that's right.

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Speaker 11: We said from the beginning that that any mistakes that

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Speaker 11: were made and there should be no mistakes. And so

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Speaker 11: when you say lawyers have said something, that's that's not

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Speaker 11: a fair question. And you know, because we took pains

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Speaker 11: to make to protect victims when we were identen when

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Speaker 11: someone identified that there was a victim, we immediately pulled

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Speaker 11: that document down.

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Speaker 7: Fixed it and put it back up immediately immediately.

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Speaker 11: And so of course we don't ever want to do

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Speaker 11: anything to revictimize anybody that was victimized by by the

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Speaker 11: horrible crimes of mister Epstein.

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Speaker 12: But but and we didn't, and we didn't.

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Speaker 11: Except that mistakes were made, and there were mistakes made

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Speaker 11: because of the reasons the Attorney Attorney General just said.

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Speaker 11: But when they were identified to us, we fixed them immediately.

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Speaker 13: Every day there is a battle for your mind, raging

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Speaker 13: information coming from every angle, but the will to deceive.

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Speaker 7: Fear not.

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Speaker 13: You found the place for truth, the voice of a

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Speaker 13: generation that still has the will to believe in the

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Speaker 13: greatest country in the history of the world.

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Speaker 3: This is the Charlie Kirk Show.

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Speaker 7: Fuck a lot.

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Speaker 3: Here we go on.

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Speaker 1: All right, Welcome to Charlie Kirk Show. It's March nineteenth,

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six. I'm traveling at the mobile Bitcoin dot

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Speaker 1: Com studio. Blake nef is holding it down in Phoenix, Arizona.

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Speaker 1: How you doing, Blake, You're doing pretty well.

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Speaker 14: You have you have the Bitcoin dot Com sun shining

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Speaker 14: on you.

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Speaker 7: I do.

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Speaker 1: There's like ten minutes Coin dot com sky you're here

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Speaker 1: in the morning. Thank you for bearing with me in

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Speaker 1: the audience. If you remember from yesterday, same thing, it'll

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Speaker 1: be gone about ten minutes. But it does fight me

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Speaker 1: for about ten. We got to get right into this

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Speaker 1: because the breaking news story over the evening was about

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Speaker 1: a place I'd never heard of called South Pars gas

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Speaker 1: Field in Iran. And here to help make some sense

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Speaker 1: of it. Right at the top is going to be

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Speaker 1: Eric Bowling, who is an expert when it comes to

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Speaker 1: these types of things. Welcome to the show, Eric.

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Speaker 7: Hey, Thanks, Andrew Hey Blake.

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Speaker 1: What's going on, guys, So let me just read part

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Speaker 1: of Trump's truth and we're going to get your analysis

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Speaker 1: on this. So he says, Israel, out of anger for

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Speaker 1: what has taken place in the Middle East, has violently

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Speaker 1: lashed out at a major facility known as South Pars

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Speaker 1: gas Field in Iran. A relatively small section of the

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Speaker 1: hole has been hit. The United States knew nothing about

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Speaker 1: this particular attack, and the country of Cutter Qatar has

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Speaker 1: was in no way, shape or form involved with it,

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Speaker 1: nor did it have any idea that it was going

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Speaker 1: to happen. All right, So this has now been i

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Speaker 1: would say contradicted by Israeli officials that says, actually the

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Speaker 1: call President Trump a liar. So something's going on here, Eric,

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Speaker 1: Do you have any insight as to what the true

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Speaker 7: Well, Andrew, I've been doing this for nearly forty years.

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Speaker 7: The oil. I've been through Gulf Wars, I've been through

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Speaker 7: massive geopolitical stresses in the Middle East, and when it

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Speaker 7: involves them producing country or countries in the relase, oil

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Speaker 7: is always going to be at the center of it.

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Speaker 7: I'm positive. I know Pete Hex said very well on positive.

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Speaker 7: Trump knew that any sort of attack of Iranian oil

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Speaker 7: infrastructure would cause prices here in the United States to

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Speaker 7: spike even further. Any attack in the Middlease is going

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Speaker 7: to do it. But when you hit the oil in infrastructure,

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Speaker 7: it's a big mistake. I doubt Trump would have sanctioned

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Speaker 7: hitting an oil infrastructure in Iran. In fact, Best and

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Speaker 7: today came out and said, look, we may even allow

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Speaker 7: this is you know, a couple of days after the fact. However,

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Speaker 7: the price shock that's happening is because you're talking about

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Speaker 7: Iranian oil. Raneyans produced three million barrels of oil. And

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Speaker 7: that what they did in response to the Iran to

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Speaker 7: to the nervousness, the jitteratus of the energy markets, driving

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Speaker 7: prices up. We're gonna hit four dollars a gallon probably

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Speaker 7: over the weekend. We may go to five. If this continues,

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Speaker 7: we could actually go to five dollars a gallon. Trumps.

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Speaker 7: He's a good businessman, but he also he's a good economist.

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Speaker 7: In his mind, I think he probably saw the effect

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Speaker 7: of hitting those oil infrastructures in Iran was a bad idea.

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Speaker 7: And I tell you what happened just hours ago. Iran

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Speaker 7: turned around and either targeted certainly hit the Israeli refinery

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Speaker 7: a measured Now they're saying it maybe shrapnel, but who

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Speaker 7: But they were finding me shut in right now. So

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Speaker 7: once you start playing around infrastructure, all berts are off

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Speaker 7: on how oil prices could go.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, so let's get Pete hegg Seth. He was

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Speaker 1: asked about it this morning, Sat. Seventeen.

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Speaker 6: So with the strike yesterday on South bar As gas Field,

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Speaker 1: It or didn't approve of it.

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Speaker 6: It kind of seems like a trend of Israel apparently

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Speaker 6: pursuing their own objectives over US objectives.

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Speaker 1: Why are we helping Israel prosecute this war if they're

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Speaker 1: going to pursue their own objectives.

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Speaker 15: We hold the cards. We have objectives, those objectives are clear.

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Speaker 15: We have allies pursuing objectives as well. And the truth

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Speaker 2: I mean, President Trump is very clear about that Iran

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Speaker 2: has weaponized energy for decades. Israel clearly sent a warning,

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Speaker 2: and POTUS has made it clear very clear. Iran knows

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Speaker 2: when you hit carg Island and you hit military cap

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Speaker 2: capabilities on Cargoland, which is the only thing we hit,

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Speaker 2: we can hold anything at issue. Anything the United States

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Speaker 1: So what he's saying is, we clearly have Israeli objectives,

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Speaker 1: our allies have objectives. The US has other objectives. But

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Speaker 1: the bottom line here is eric it's causing this really,

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Speaker 1: I think strange oil market. And this is really where

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Speaker 1: you bring a lot of expertise here, go up, go

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Speaker 1: ahead and throw up that. It looks like we're having

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Speaker 1: the emergence of essentially three different, three distinct oil markets

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Speaker 1: Asia through Amana, Dubai, Europe, Brent in US West Texas, right, WTI, correct,

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Speaker 1: what the heck is happening? And why this huge price

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Speaker 1: gap between the different oil That's.

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Speaker 7: Simply a fine So look at look at oil, kind

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Speaker 7: of look at the world global oil reserves. We use

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Speaker 7: about one hundred million barrels a day globally all countries included.

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Speaker 7: The difference in the price between those three and by

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Speaker 7: the way, there's probably fifty grades of crude oil. But

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Speaker 7: the main, the three main benchmark they call them benchmarks,

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Speaker 7: is all prices are determined based on those. Well, I

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Speaker 7: would say to Brent and WTI, West Texas Intermediate, that's

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Speaker 7: the oil we produce. We produce thirteen million in the day,

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Speaker 7: we use twenty million. We have a gap. We have

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Speaker 7: to import oil from Canada to China. We're not China, Canada,

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Speaker 7: Mexico and others. The Brent is higher, and Andrew, I've

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Speaker 7: done this a long time, for the past fifteen years.

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Speaker 7: The difference between Brent oil, it's always higher because of

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Speaker 14: I think a lot of people have noted, Okay, the

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Speaker 7: Correct one hundred percent. We are absolutely sensitive to the

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Speaker 7: Baked in the cake. Four to fifty is probably baked

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Speaker 7: Both they may be on their heels. Andrew, I find

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Speaker 1: Eric what are we looking at in terms of inflation.

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Speaker 1: You know they held the rate again steady. What what

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Speaker 7: six percent. Oil is tied to every single product that

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Speaker 7: we use. Andrew, you just sip the cup. There's oil.

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Speaker 1: John Solomon joins us. Now. John, it's great to have

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Speaker 1: you back because there's so much news going on, especially

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Speaker 1: on the intel front. I got to hit this first though,

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Speaker 1: kind of a bombshell. So obviously everybody's aware that Joe

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Speaker 1: Kent resigned the letter. We talked about it on the

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Speaker 1: I'll play a clip here. Well, let's not actually skip it. Basically,

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Speaker 1: he's under investigation for leaking classified documents. The investigation is

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Speaker 1: being led by the FBI, and apparently the investigation started

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Speaker 1: before his resignation. What do you know, John.

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Speaker 17: Solomon, Yeah, that is an accurate description of what we know.

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Speaker 17: Several months ago, the FBI began examining a potential leak

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Speaker 17: of information and technology that they believe is connected to

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Speaker 17: Joe Kent or his office. That is been ongoing. It

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Speaker 17: is nearing a resolution, and it's in that period of

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Speaker 17: being examined. It's usually around the time of resolution that

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Speaker 17: but we are told that the decision on whether chargers

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Speaker 17: are to be brought is going to happen soon. This

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Speaker 17: all of a sudden on Monday, he dropped that bombshell

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Speaker 17: of a letter. And again, when you look at the

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Speaker 17: whole of Joe Kent, no matter what happens in this outcome,

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Speaker 17: he's a man who is deployed eleven times to combat

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Speaker 17: doing that. He lost his wife to a combat attack.

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Speaker 17: She also was an American patriot and lost that. Part

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Speaker 17: of his career stays intact. But if you go into

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Speaker 17: the civilian side and you're trusted with intelligence and you

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Speaker 17: particularly in this administration, which is very serious about prosecuting links.

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Speaker 17: And so we'll have to wait and see what the

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Speaker 17: he ever released his letter expressing his descent for the

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Speaker 17: Iran operation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, Tulsi was asked about this. Dn I Tolci Gabbard

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Speaker 9: Do you agree or disagree with what this letter was

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Speaker 9: put out by former Director Kent?

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Speaker 18: He said a lot of things in that letter. Ultimately,

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Speaker 18: we have provided the president with the intelligence assessments, and

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Speaker 18: the president is elected by the American people and makes

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Speaker 18: his own decisions based on the information that's available to him.

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Speaker 9: But do you agree with Does that statement he made

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Speaker 1: Yes? So that was a pretty significant moment there, John Solomon.

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Speaker 1: That's because a lot of people link DnaK Tulci Gabbard

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Speaker 17: Yeah, that was a very significant moment. Now, I would

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Speaker 17: have preferred that they followed up saying you're concerned because

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Speaker 17: you agree with his assessment on Israel, You're concerned that

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Speaker 17: he made it. There's some ambiguity about what yes meant,

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Speaker 17: but I think we generally have a sense of where

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Speaker 17: of testimony. She has not endorsed the president's decision. She

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Speaker 17: she did a very good job. I think Pete Hegseth

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Speaker 17: much better job describing the threat and what would lead

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Speaker 17: from Iron And these are the things that we wrote

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Speaker 17: about this morning. All of it an open source intelligence,

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Speaker 17: but they're pretty serious things. In January, I States government

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Speaker 17: discovered three Revolutionary Guard members on ARSA, and I will

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Speaker 17: They were forcibly deported very quickly. Then we learned that

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Speaker 17: trying to get and where at the final stages of

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Speaker 17: could be able to reach much further American assets outside

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Speaker 17: and by the way, hypersonics, we don't have a great

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Speaker 17: defense system against us. Those components, along with the fact

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Speaker 17: American assets were increasing risk and to do that. It

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Speaker 17: isn't some magical spell that bb Net me out as

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Speaker 17: over the president. Anyone who knows the President knows he

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Speaker 17: makes his mind up on his own, often to the

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Speaker 1: Well, John, I mean, you know, to be fair to Tulsi,

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Speaker 1: you could you could look at the same intel here

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Speaker 1: within that Yeah, I agree, Yeah, so so her job wasn't.

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Speaker 17: What I would say is, when you serve a president,

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Speaker 17: What data points did the president have to make decisions? Listen,

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Speaker 17: I think it's perfectly great in America to disagree with

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Speaker 17: They tried to suppress us lots of times. But in

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Speaker 17: expressing your opinion. But her job is an intelligence chief,

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Speaker 17: was to give the data points. And there are data points.

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Speaker 17: You can disagree whether that constitutes an imminent threat, but

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Speaker 17: the opportunity yesterday was to give those data points. We

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Speaker 17: have at least told us what the intelligence was. We

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Speaker 1: Yeah, fair enough, let's change our focus here. There is,

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Speaker 1: so one of these storylines is this China interfering in

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Speaker 1: our elections. Tell us what you've uncovered in your reportings

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Speaker 1: on First, we need.

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Speaker 17: To remind people because they probably didn't get a lot

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Speaker 17: Just people, howgh they read to their data because it

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Speaker 17: there were big hearings and Blue ribbon commissions. New election

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Speaker 17: security provisions were done. And by the way, the Biden

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Speaker 17: and they even indicted some of the hackers from China

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Speaker 17: that did this to China, did this to Great Britain.

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Speaker 17: Here's the dirty secret that the Biden administration in the

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Speaker 17: US Intelligence Committee knew when they were expressing outrage of

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Speaker 17: what happened in Great Britain. It happened here all the

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Speaker 17: appears from the statements of an intelligence community ambudsman, a

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Speaker 17: civilian that's supposed to protect our interests in the intelligence community.

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Speaker 17: Because the almasman said that the intelligence community, the CIA,

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Speaker 17: and others decided to keep this information from the President,

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Speaker 17: the public, and the Congress because they didn't like President

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Speaker 17: Trump and his policies. They actually used Georgie Turns to

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Speaker 17: describe the commander in chief in their own private emails,

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Speaker 17: and they made a decision to put their personal politics

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Speaker 17: ahead of their country and their commander in chiefs need

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Speaker 17: to know, and they just didn't let the country know.

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Speaker 17: So America and Great Britain suffered the same crisis. Americans

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Speaker 17: were kept in. The Great Britain reacted with great alarm.

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Speaker 17: I think that's a very get to the bottom of

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Speaker 17: this politicization of these intelligence agencies we talk about in

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Speaker 17: the context of Russia collusion and the fake scandal there.

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Speaker 17: But when you start depriving a president or the intelligence

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Speaker 17: committees of actionable intelligence, you're moving to a point of

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Speaker 17: harming national interests. And that is what the dombinsmen in

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Speaker 17: the Biden era decided to allegend a document that we

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Speaker 17: made public this week.

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Speaker 1: So it then kind of goes to Fulton County, right,

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Speaker 1: so again and I polci Gabbard's testifying before the Senate

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Speaker 1: and then say the House, and she obviously was photographed

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Speaker 1: at that Fulton County rate, What do we know about

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Speaker 1: her presence there specifically?

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Speaker 17: I don't think the criminal case here ties to this

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Speaker 17: China stuff. I think the criminal case here ties to

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Speaker 17: the fact that if you're an election administrator in Georgia

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Speaker 17: or Maricopa County, in Arizona, where we also have some

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Speaker 17: investigation ground, and you don't follow your state laws, you

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Speaker 17: don't create equal protection for your voters, it becomes a

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Speaker 17: federal crime. And so the FBI's interest in Georgia and

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Speaker 17: in Arizona was simply to signal that they may prosecute

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Speaker 17: local election administrators because they didn't follow the law. They

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Speaker 17: created exemptions, or didn't do things away the law in

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Speaker 17: their state required, and that becomes a federal offense if

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Speaker 17: it's intentional.

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Speaker 7: I think that's all. I don't know why she showed up.

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Speaker 17: I know of no reason she needed to be there

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Speaker 17: other than maybe the President asked her to show up,

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Speaker 17: is what I've been told that's fine. What we do

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Speaker 17: know is that Tulca gabertt has known about this Chinese

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Speaker 17: election intelligence for about eight months and only recently began

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Speaker 17: moving in direction of declassifying it under pressure from Justin News.

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Speaker 17: We've been asking daily for about seven weeks now for

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Speaker 17: Telsea Gabbert to make this available. The first documents we

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Speaker 17: got were not declassified by Telca Gabbert. They were to

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Speaker 17: classified by Avril Haynes, her predecessor in the Biden administration.

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Speaker 17: The Biden administration and former Biden administration officials were much

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Speaker 17: more willing to talk about how shocked they were that

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Speaker 17: Trump knew or Trump people knew about this Chinese infiltration

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Speaker 17: and didn't act on it. Back then, they were glad

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Speaker 17: to throw some shade on that. But this is a

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Speaker 17: serious matter because the second you know that China got

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Speaker 17: voter registration data, what we learned a few months ago

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Speaker 17: from our reporting about what the FBI learned becomes more important.

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Speaker 17: All Right, voter data is accessed by Chinese intelligence, then

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Speaker 17: China sends driver's licenses to Chicago pair ohair report and

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Speaker 17: the FBI's Chinese intelligence sources tell them it was an

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Speaker 17: effort to send those licenses here so someone could fail

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Speaker 17: file fake ballot requests and vote and stuff the ballot

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Speaker 17: box for Joe Biden. That's what the FBI documents. So

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Speaker 17: we're starting to see it continuum. That doesn't mean that

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Speaker 17: anything ultimately happened, but it was a more organized effort

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Speaker 17: than we were led to believe. And the reason we

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Speaker 17: were not given this information was a political decision by

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Speaker 17: some biased intelligence analysts.

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Speaker 7: That should concern us.

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Speaker 1: All yeah, that is concerning. I mean, I think Tulsa

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Speaker 1: Gabbert is a star. Yeah, I trust her her motivations

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Speaker 1: here or you know, her political calculations. But I think

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Speaker 1: you're absolutely right. The American people have an interest in

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Speaker 1: knowing as much as we possibly can about election integrity.

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Speaker 1: John Solomon, just the news. Yeah, well amen, all right,

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Speaker 1: tell you guys, we got some great news. A lot

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Speaker 1: of bad stuff going on in the world. But meanwhile,

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Speaker 1: Turning Point Action is working behind the scenes, and I

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Speaker 1: wanted to make sure we called this out. Today. We

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Speaker 1: are launching and opening a new office, a new field

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Speaker 1: office in Nevada. Right, So, Turning Point Action. You see

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Speaker 1: the beautiful logo there. Our field office is now open

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Speaker 1: in the state of Nevada. Why is this important? Because

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Speaker 1: we are building what we call the Red Wall. All right,

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Speaker 1: everybody knows about the Blue Wall. It's Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin.

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Speaker 1: It's those three pesky states that Democrats have held for

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Speaker 1: election cycle after election cycle until twenty sixteen and twenty

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Speaker 1: twenty four when we took it back. But we can

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Speaker 1: take those states off the electoral map in a sense

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Speaker 1: if we win Arizona, which we are massively active in,

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Speaker 1: if we win New Hampshire, which we're massively active in,

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Speaker 1: which a lot of people don't realize has more registered

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Speaker 1: Republicans than Democrats, got to win the Indies in that state.

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Speaker 1: That's the key. But still there's more Republicans than Democrats

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Speaker 1: in New Hampshire. And then of course Nevada, which we

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Speaker 1: took back, and notably there's more Republicans registered now in Nevada.

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Speaker 1: For the first time in many decades, actually probably about

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Speaker 1: twenty years, Democrats have had the registration advantage in Nevada.

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Speaker 1: That has now flipped. Republicans now have a small, small advantage.

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Speaker 1: So this is key. So we're hiring now hundreds of

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Speaker 1: staffers in these three states, hundreds and hundreds in each state,

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Speaker 1: and we're combining those with a bunch of thousands of volunteers.

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Speaker 1: So in twenty twenty four we had thousands of volunteers

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Speaker 1: that would come in link hands with the paid staff,

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Speaker 1: the ballot chasers on the ground, and we created a machine.

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Speaker 1: We know the machine works. Why because we borrowed a

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Speaker 1: lot of the best practices from the left that had

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Speaker 1: a two decade head start on us in this arena.

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Speaker 1: And so now we're taking ground, we're catching up. We're

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Speaker 1: building the army that will deliver these three states for

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty six and hopefully twenty twenty eight, build that

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Speaker 1: red wall. Blake, you are a master of history. For

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Speaker 1: those who don't understand the significance of the Blue Wall,

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Speaker 1: and maybe they not aware of the population shifts to

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Speaker 1: the Sunbell, explain why this is important.

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Speaker 7: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: I mean, so basically, a lot of blue states have

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Speaker 14: been run badly for a long time, and so that's

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Speaker 14: the first thing you want to start with, is we've

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Speaker 14: got these people have been fleeing from and also just

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Speaker 14: de industrialization, so de industrialization a lot of other factors.

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Speaker 14: They've driven people out of Illinois, they've driven people out

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Speaker 14: of New York, but they've also driven people out of Minnesota, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, Michigan.

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Speaker 14: All of these states have either lost people or they've

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Speaker 14: slowed to a relative crawl.

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Speaker 1: They're not where immigrants move as much. They're not where.

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Speaker 14: Americans moved to seek opportunity. They've moved frankly heavily to

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Speaker 14: mostly Republican controlled states Florida, Arizona, historically Texas. And every

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Speaker 14: ten years we have that census. It redraws the lines,

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Speaker 14: it reallocates electoral votes. And you know, back in nineteen

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Speaker 14: sixty when Kennedy won, the biggest state was New York.

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Speaker 1: It had almost fifty electoral votes.

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Speaker 14: It's now only in the twenties, I believe, for how

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Speaker 14: many electoral votes it has. And so the Democrats used

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Speaker 14: to be able to rely on, Oh, if we can

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Speaker 14: just win Wisconsin, Minnesota, Michigan, Pennsylvania, it's very very hard

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Speaker 14: for us to lose an election. But we're getting to

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Speaker 14: the point where even if they win all those states,

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Speaker 14: and as we've seen with President Trump, they don't always

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Speaker 14: win them. Even if they win all of those states,

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Speaker 14: they're still not going to be able to win unless

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Speaker 14: they can snag these Sun Belt states. Now, as we

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Speaker 14: all know, kind of Californication is a problem. That those

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Speaker 14: states used to be rock solid red. They are a

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Speaker 14: lot of them now more purple. Nevada used to vote

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Speaker 14: very consistently republican. Arizona voted Republican for basically a half

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Speaker 14: century straight, they've gotten more purple. The Democrat plan is

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Speaker 14: flip them, and our job is step in there, stop

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Speaker 14: any of that sliding, make them rock solid red, you know,

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Speaker 14: make them kind of like Florida, where Florida was trending

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Speaker 14: blue and we flipped it back the other way.

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Speaker 1: Just Jack Pisoba sending us a no right now, he says,

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Speaker 1: I'm in New Hampshire. Trump signs all over. So that's

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Speaker 1: telling people don't realize New Hampshire is kind of like

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Speaker 1: this beacon, this red dot in the New England area

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Speaker 1: where they tend to have a lot of conservative state level.

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Speaker 1: For whatever reason, they're sending Democrats at the federal level.

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Speaker 1: So we want to stop that. And the ROI and

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Speaker 1: New Hampshire is just the potential ROI is really really

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Speaker 1: favorable for us. If we spend a relatively small amount,

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Speaker 1: we can get a relatively large impact there. But this

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Speaker 1: is a massive, massive day on the calendar for US

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Speaker 1: having a field office in Nevada. And to Blake's point,

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Speaker 1: how do we do this. We target low propensity conservative

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Speaker 1: leaning voters, right. These are people that maybe don't show

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Speaker 1: up all the time, but we need them to show up,

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Speaker 1: and it's going to be an even greater challenge without

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Speaker 1: President Trump on the ballot. So President Trump is one

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Speaker 1: of those polarizing political figures who just happens to draw

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Speaker 1: out the Democrats they come out to the polls to system,

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Speaker 1: and he draws out a lot of low propensity conservative

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Speaker 1: voters as well. Our challenge in twenty twenty six is

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Speaker 1: how do we get these people to the ballot box

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Speaker 1: to keep these seats read to keep the Republicans in office.

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Speaker 1: And that's going to be our challenge. And that's why

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Speaker 1: putting a field office in a place like Nevada is

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Speaker 1: such a big, big milestone. So while all this noise

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Speaker 1: and all this distractions going on, and you got feuding

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Speaker 1: people and podcast wars, whatever, we are doing the quiet

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Speaker 1: work building to make sure that those low prop conservative,

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Speaker 1: right leaning voters get out to the polls. How do

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Speaker 1: we do that. It's a fusion of relational organizing, data

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Speaker 1: driven live data updates. Every day. When we touch pace

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Speaker 1: with somebody, we put a note, we learn more about them,

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Speaker 1: and then we build a relationship and we follow up

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Speaker 1: with them. We tell them when the deadlines are, we

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Speaker 1: tell them how to get their ballot in and every

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Speaker 1: state has different rules, and we follow the rules of

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Speaker 1: each different state. But this is the this is the

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Speaker 1: way that you actually win elections. This is the hard

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Speaker 1: on the ground work that we're actually doing. So if

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Speaker 1: you want to get involved, go to tpaction dot com.

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Speaker 1: Tpaction dot com. Tyler and the team are doing an

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Speaker 1: amazing job. There's going to be a whole opening ceremony

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Speaker 1: there in Las Vegas, Nevada today, so please get involved.

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Speaker 1: Check it out. If you want to volunteer, if you

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Speaker 1: want to apply for a job, we are hiring like crazy.

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Speaker 1: So big hat tip to the team there. Show the

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Speaker 1: picture one more time, guys.

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Speaker 14: Yeah, I mean it's just I really want to drive

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Speaker 14: that home. It's always what set Charlie apart. There's a

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Speaker 14: lot of people offering takes about politics. There's a lot

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Speaker 14: of that, but he also always stepped up for the

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Speaker 14: hard work, kind of the thankless work, the tough work

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Speaker 14: of gett offices open, build relationships with ordinary people, actually

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Speaker 14: get votes out. And he was always great about that,

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Speaker 14: and our goal is to always remain great about that.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, congratulations to the turning Point Action team. Phenomenal work here,

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Speaker 1: huge milestone. We're gonna keep Nevada red. We'll be back

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Speaker 1: our two in just a few minutes.

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Speaker 16: Welcome to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm Terrence Bates.

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Speaker 16: We appreciate you being here with us. The Pentagon hosted

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Speaker 16: its latest press briefing this morning, discussing the war in Iran.

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Speaker 16: Secretary of War Pete Hegsev used the stage to talk

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Speaker 16: directly to the American people.

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Speaker 2: The world, the least our ungrateful allies in Europe, even

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Speaker 2: segments of our own press should be saying one thing

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Speaker 2: to President Trump.

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Speaker 3: Thank you. Thank you for the courage to stop this

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Speaker 3: terror state.

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Speaker 2: From holding the world hostage with missiles while building or

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Speaker 2: attempting to build a nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the work of the free world.

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Speaker 16: Real America's Voice correspondent David Zerra attended this morning's press briefing.

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Speaker 16: He joins us live from outside the White House. Now, David, good, afternoon.

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Speaker 16: Your takeaways from this morning's breast briefing.

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Speaker 19: Yes, another somewhat fiery briefing. Hegseth taking the message directly

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Speaker 19: to the American people. As the press, you know, they've

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Speaker 19: been pretty hard on him. But there's a lot going

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Speaker 19: on and Iran, you know, eight thousand strikes, eight thousand

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Speaker 19: combat sorties flown already, five thousand pound bunk a busters.

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Speaker 19: And I got a chance to ask Pete. Hegseth about

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Speaker 19: with Europe hedging on support to help us in the

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Speaker 19: Persian Gulf and straight Ohmuz operations, you know, who have

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Speaker 19: been our strongest allies, and he emphasized the commitment to

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Speaker 19: the Gulf States. You know, Iran may have miscalculated attacking

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Speaker 19: these sony states right because it appears they're aligning, But

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Speaker 19: a lot of the traffic is down in the Persian

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Speaker 19: Gulf oil exports. They are re routing a lot of

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Speaker 19: it as well. But I also asked him about the

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Speaker 19: Internet and how the regime is still cracking down and

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Speaker 19: centoring the internet. Three weeks in to combat operations over Iran,

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Speaker 19: and they're going after private VPN networks and satellite systems

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Speaker 19: that the resistance is operating. But we're starting to see

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Speaker 19: a little bit of that break. You know, we have

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Speaker 19: the end of the Zoroastrian event, which is four thousand

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Speaker 19: years old, the Persian New Year, the Fire Festival, which

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Speaker 19: was celebrated. In the last few days across Iran, there's

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Speaker 19: been pockets of resistance showing up. It also marks the

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Speaker 19: end of Ramadan over there, and it's also lent right,

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Speaker 19: a lot of world's religious events taking place at the

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Speaker 19: same time, but all in aill Pete Hegseth taking questions

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Speaker 19: once again, and yeah, it was a busy briefing, busy morning.

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Speaker 16: Absolutely happening there at the White House behind you, President

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Speaker 16: Trump hosting Japan's Prime minister. The issue of Iran and

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Speaker 16: oil also seemed to predominate that particular conversation.

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Speaker 19: Yes, it's timely, an incredible news day. It's just one

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Speaker 19: thing after the other here in the West wing. Behind me,

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Speaker 19: Trump just had a meeting with the Japanese Prime Minister,

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Speaker 19: Sana Ayatakeichi, and she discussed with Trump about, you know,

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Speaker 19: what's going on in the golf and everything. But you know,

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Speaker 19: Japan imports nine percent even maybe of their oil and

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Speaker 19: gas from the Persian Gulf Area, Saudi Arabia and the UAE,

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Speaker 19: and you know, Trump is not getting the commitments from

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Speaker 19: these countries.

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Speaker 7: Now.

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Speaker 19: We provide defense for Japan, and Japan has had anti

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Speaker 19: piracy operations in the Gulf before, so there's no reason

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Speaker 19: they couldn't help us, maybe with some mind sweeping and

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Speaker 19: other types of activities. It'll be interesting how this unfolds.

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Speaker 19: But I think Japan also has some security concerns because

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Speaker 19: the thirty first mu at Oki Nawa board the USS

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Speaker 19: Tripoli is steaming towards off the coast of Singapore. Now

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Speaker 19: we'll be in theater off the Strait of Hermuz probably

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Speaker 19: within a week. And will the Marines have a role

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Speaker 19: on the ground on these islands, lining the Strait of

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Speaker 19: Hormuz or throughout the Persian Gulf remains to be seen,

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Speaker 19: but definitely in these countries' interest to engage, and maybe

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Speaker 19: Trump will have some success. And tonight there'll be a

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Speaker 19: state dinner, and I we'll bring you the latest a

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Speaker 19: state dinner.

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Speaker 16: I would prefer a steak dinner, but either way, we'll

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Speaker 16: take it. David Zero reporting for us on the ground

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Speaker 16: outside the White House. David, always good to see my friend.

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Speaker 7: Thank you, Thank you, Terrence.

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Speaker 16: All right, and we'll of course have more coverage of

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Speaker 16: President Trump's meeting with the Prime Minister from Japan throughout

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Speaker 16: the day. Will also be covering the very latest as

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Speaker 16: it relates to the Warren Oran. For now, let's get

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Speaker 16: you back to your regularly schedule programming.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back. Our two of the Charlie Kirkshow

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Speaker 1: is underway here at the Bitcoin dot Com Studios on

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Speaker 1: the road. Blake still holding it down in Phoenix. How

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Speaker 1: were doing, Blake? Oh, we're doing great.

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Speaker 14: I'm getting I was watching in the break the unbelievable

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Speaker 14: clip of President Trump with the Japanese Prime Minister.

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Speaker 1: I think that was going to go down as an

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Speaker 1: all time Yeah, we should play that. I want to

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the show. Lydia moynihan. She's a New York

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Speaker 1: Post columnist and you might have seen her in the

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Speaker 1: many viral clips from CNN Abby Phillips Show. I believe

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Speaker 1: it's Newsnight, Newsnight. All right, welcome to the show, Lydia.

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Speaker 1: It's great, great to have you. It's your first time

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Speaker 1: joining us. I'm so supposed to be here. I'm so

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Speaker 1: I'm glad, you're thrilled to be here. What thrilled to

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Speaker 1: have you? So let's just start right there. You are

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Speaker 1: a New York Post columnist, you live in the city,

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Speaker 1: and here you are. You're doing Abby Philip, the Abby

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Speaker 1: phil Newsnight show a clip, a show that gets clipped,

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Speaker 1: I think more than potentially any other show. How did

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Speaker 1: this start? And what's it like being on set there?

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Speaker 20: So I've been doing the show now for about six months,

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Speaker 20: I would say, and it's interesting. I think, in this

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Speaker 20: world where everyone lives in their own echo chamber with

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Speaker 20: their own algorithm, I think it's actually great television and

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Speaker 20: great to see people on both sides engaging and talking

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Speaker 20: to each other.

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Speaker 7: And it's interesting.

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Speaker 20: I mean there's times I feel like we're all sharing

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Speaker 20: something that it's a basic fact to me, and a

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Speaker 20: lot of folks there have never even heard of it.

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Speaker 20: And I think, you know, the five on Fox does

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Speaker 20: really well, and people want to see these completely separate

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Speaker 20: echo chambers interact because we live in a country now

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Speaker 20: where you can go about your daily life and be

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Speaker 20: in a complete bubble on social media with the people

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Speaker 20: you interact with in your city and just never be

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Speaker 20: confronted with anything that might challenge your beliefs or your

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Speaker 20: ideas about something.

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Speaker 1: All right, So I have to you and I actually

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Speaker 1: first exchanged texts right after this we covered here on

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Speaker 1: the show. Blake had some hot takes on it as well,

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Speaker 1: and that was of course, when Abby Philip repeatedly and

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Speaker 1: mistakenly said that the ied bombing or attempted bombing was

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Speaker 1: targeting the mayor's house, we have to play. We have

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Speaker 1: to put some quotes around mistaken and it wasn't an ID.

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Speaker 20: It was a loose grouping of nails.

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Speaker 1: And yeah, they.

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Speaker 7: Didn't call it an ID.

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Speaker 1: I don't know why we're simping for terrorists, but that's

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Speaker 1: where we find ourselves.

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Speaker 21: Cut sixteen two Republicans say Muslims don't belong here after

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Speaker 21: an attempted terror attack against New York's mayor. On Mum

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Speaker 21: Donnie and the House Speaker Mike Johnson says nothing really

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Speaker 21: to condemn those comments.

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Speaker 1: Well, there you have it. She would to be fair.

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Speaker 1: She uh, she corrected the record. So we gotta we

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Speaker 1: gotta be fair to Abby Phillip, your your she's she's

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Speaker 1: a colleague of yours, so I want to be respectful. Sat.

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Speaker 21: Twenty four This morning, I issued a correction first thing

1014
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Speaker 21: in the morning on X for a mistake that I

1015
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Speaker 21: made in last night's show, but I also wanted to

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Speaker 21: do so on air as well. I incorrectly said that

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Speaker 21: the bombs that were thrown by isis inspired.

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Speaker 7: Suspects in New.

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Speaker 21: York over the weekend were directed at Mayor Mum Donnie.

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Speaker 7: They were not.

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Speaker 21: I failed to catch and correct that mistake in real time,

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Speaker 21: and I take full responsibility for that. And while we

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Speaker 21: do make mistakes, it is important to acknowledge and correct

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Speaker 21: those errors when they happen.

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Speaker 1: All right, Classy moved. You were on the set though,

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Speaker 1: when that happened. What I mean, it's not like it

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Speaker 1: wasn't corrected in real time. I think you're the other

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Speaker 1: sort of right of center panelists corrected her and she

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Speaker 1: still missed it, Like, what were you thinking as this

1030
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Speaker 1: moment was playing out on TV?

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Speaker 20: Well, look again, I think everyone's just in their silo

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Speaker 20: where maybe they don't even know that what they're saying

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Speaker 20: is incorrect. And I think it was great that she

1034
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Speaker 20: went out there and did correct it. But I think

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Speaker 20: this is this is just a bigger problem where there

1036
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Speaker 20: isn't really any reality check of what's going on. And

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Speaker 20: I think it's interesting seeing the way that the mainstream

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Speaker 20: media has it has not covered what, in my mind

1039
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Speaker 20: is frankly one of the most important and most significant

1040
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Speaker 20: stories is the fact that there were four terrorist attacks.

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Speaker 20: I believe all of them by naturalize itizens, so people

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Speaker 20: who were not born here or in the case of

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Speaker 20: the terrorist attack here in New York, both of those

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Speaker 20: men their parents were born in Afghanistan. So there's a

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Speaker 20: lot to discuss there, and of course attacks against Jewish

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Speaker 20: people in a synagogue, there are a lot of things

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Speaker 20: to us out and it's interesting in that case. The

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Speaker 20: approach that the mainstream media takes is, let's talk about Islamophobia,

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Speaker 20: and that's of course not the story. The story is

1050
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Speaker 20: that there's actually terrorist attacks and people are shouting Allahu akbar, right,

1051
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Speaker 20: they're doing this in the name of religion. And then

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Speaker 20: the angle that is covernant. And we saw this, of

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Speaker 20: course with Zora Mamdani. I'm sorry to keep harping on him.

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Speaker 20: I know every time we talk I bring him up, Andrew,

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Speaker 20: but this is just the quintessential way of sort of

1056
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Speaker 20: spinning something and making an accusation that somebody's Islamophobic. So

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Speaker 20: he talked about when he was confronted by the fact

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Speaker 20: that he is very close with Hassan Piker, who believes

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Speaker 20: in America deserved nine to eleven, he said, didn't address it,

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Speaker 20: basically just said, oh, well, my aunt who may or

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Speaker 20: may not be a real person. She got mean looks

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Speaker 20: on the subway after nine to eleven. And it's completely

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Speaker 20: failing to address a very important and real and legitimate

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Speaker 20: issue and then just attacking somebody and saying that they're

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Speaker 20: bigoted because they're noticing this pattern. And that's the approach

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Speaker 20: that we saw obviously with Mamdannie, and it's the approach

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Speaker 20: that we're seeing the media. It takes as well. They're

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Speaker 20: not addressing this issue of Wow, there's a terrorist problem.

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Speaker 20: Americans are in danger right now, they're just saying, Oh,

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Speaker 20: anyone who's trying to address that problem is bigoted for

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Speaker 20: noticing it.

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Speaker 1: Blake, what's what the selection bias? What you've been in

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Speaker 1: media and journalism, what the what is the undercurrent? What

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Speaker 1: is the driving motivation for them? I think I think

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Speaker 1: it's pretty straightforward.

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Speaker 14: There used to be a more balance to a lot

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Speaker 14: of institutions in American life, Like the press always leaned liberal,

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Speaker 14: but leaning liberal in even the sixties, where we think

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Speaker 14: of as a left wing time leaning liberal meant, oh

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Speaker 14: maybe seventy percent of them voted for Kennedy and thirty

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Speaker 14: percent voted for Nixon. But in a lot of these

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Speaker 14: newsrooms at major outlets. We're talking ninety five five, ninety

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Speaker 14: nine to one, and it breaks down your ability to

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Speaker 14: think reasonably about things you don't don't get question. You

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Speaker 14: have a lot of assumptions that don't make sense, but

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Speaker 14: no one's calling you out on them, and.

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Speaker 1: There's a lot of there's a lot of group thing

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Speaker 1: that takes over.

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Speaker 14: I've heard accounts, you know, from the New York Times,

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Speaker 14: where here's a classic one from a few years ago.

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Speaker 14: It was pretty obvious right away, for example, when the

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Speaker 14: Writtenhouse shooting happened, that Rittenhouse was engaged in self defense.

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Speaker 14: He didn't do anything wrong. And I've heard stories there

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Speaker 14: were New York Times reporters terrified to even take that

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Speaker 14: assignment because if they had to report that fact, it

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Speaker 14: could destroy their career in the newsroom because people there

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Speaker 14: were that unhinged. And if you repeat that over and

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Speaker 14: over and over again, and then if you're in a

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Speaker 14: kind of lower IQ area like CNN, they're not quite

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Speaker 14: firing on as many cylinders as the New York Times.

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Speaker 14: You just get these absolutely embarrassing stories where they actually

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Speaker 14: have to come out and admit it because it all

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Speaker 14: seems reasonable to them.

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Speaker 1: Until they get called out on X or on some

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Speaker 1: other public platform. Yeah, and Lydia that was my read

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Speaker 1: on that instance, By the way, it was because all

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Speaker 1: the early reporting was that, you know, it was a

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Speaker 1: bombing outside, a tempted bombing outside of the mayor's mansion.

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Speaker 1: So I actually think Abby Philip just didn't know that

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Speaker 1: she was wrong.

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Speaker 20: Well, Andrew, I just kind of want to go back

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Speaker 20: to something that Blake was saying about the sort of

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Speaker 20: selection bias, And I think when you think about historically

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Speaker 20: how we get these people in media kind of telling

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Speaker 20: us what the story is and breaking things down for us.

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Speaker 3: They're in.

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Speaker 20: They go through the university system, which my colleague Isabelle

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Speaker 20: Vincent here. The Post had a great story yesterday just

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Speaker 20: highlighting people who are literally children of IRCG members are

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Speaker 20: teaching in universities like University of Illinois and Emery. And

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Speaker 20: so you think about your going through this university system

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Speaker 20: where literal terrorists children are professors and teaching, and then

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Speaker 20: you go into this other ecosystem, typically in a big

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Speaker 20: city like New York or LA, where it's quite liberal,

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Speaker 20: and then all of your colleagues are also thinking the

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Speaker 20: same way as you, So it's just literally from the

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Speaker 20: time you leave your house, no matter who you are,

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Speaker 20: if you're going to an elite university and then continuing

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Speaker 20: on to get a top job, especially in media in

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Speaker 20: a liberal place like New York or LA, you're just

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Speaker 20: not challenged with any of your viewpoints. You're inculcated and

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Speaker 20: something that's extremely left wing, and then that just carries

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Speaker 20: on with no one challenging those presuppositions.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna come back with more with Lydia moynihan from

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Speaker 1: the New York Post. Just one second, I want to

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Speaker 7: We'll be right there.

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Speaker 15: All right.

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Speaker 1: If you have private student loan debt, you do not

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Speaker 1: need to live under the burden of it anymore. If

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Speaker 1: you can't meet your payments, Blake. The test is on

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Speaker 1: how much private student loan debt is there in the

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Speaker 1: United States today.

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Speaker 14: Over three hundred billion US dollars forty five how in

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Speaker 14: of which is distressed.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, good, you finally got your quotes down.

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Speaker 1: Forty five billion of that private student loan debt is

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Speaker 1: labeled as distressed. If you find yourself in that predicament,

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Speaker 1: signed on that loan, please give them an opportunity to

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Speaker 1: get off. That's called being an adult. If your mom

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Speaker 1: twelve times without penalty. Nobody else is going to do

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Speaker 1: but hopefully it's available in yours and they can help

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Speaker 1: you all right, More with Lydia moynahan. She's a New

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Speaker 1: York Post columnist. It's her first time on the show.

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Speaker 1: It's great to have her. I couldn't help but find

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Speaker 1: this clip. And you're sitting right next to the person

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Speaker 1: involved in this. Uh, this is Lee McGowan, and this

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Speaker 1: this clip is just it's a it's a peach cut

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Speaker 1: twenty six.

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Speaker 22: So your answer is to continue to let her on

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Speaker 22: back has blobed, No, that is not my answer.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so someone has to take them.

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Speaker 1: No, it's not a false was we did not need

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Speaker 1: to be in this life.

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Speaker 7: They started.

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Speaker 1: Guys here, we are bad guys here. That's a that's

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Speaker 1: a that's strong. You can be against this war in

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Speaker 1: the first place, just to be clear, but that's quite

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Speaker 1: a thing to say.

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Speaker 20: Anyways, that's the issue is again totally valid to challenge

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Speaker 20: what the strategy is and ask questions. But we're seeing

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Speaker 20: on the left, it's like people are rooting for us

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Speaker 20: to fail. It's like people want this to be a disaster.

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Speaker 20: So Donald Trump has egg on his face. That's what

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Speaker 20: it feels like is going on. And I genuinely think,

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Speaker 20: and I know we're going to talk about Madonnie and

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Speaker 20: his wife from a there seem to be people and

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Speaker 20: obviously the fact that there are protests and people honoring,

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Speaker 20: holding services to honor the Iyatola, there are clearly people

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Speaker 20: here who actually do think that America is the bad

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Speaker 20: guy in this war. And of course no universe could

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Speaker 20: that be possible. You're looking at a regime that murders

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Speaker 20: people for sport. They just today executed a young man

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Speaker 20: who walked the streets trying to protest back in January.

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Speaker 20: They hang gay people from cranes, They rape women as punishment.

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Speaker 20: They're the largest exporter of charity. Let's be very clear,

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Speaker 20: in no universe are we the bad They're the bad guys,

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Speaker 20: through and through it again. You can debate the war,

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Speaker 20: but there's there's no way that you could characterize ran

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Speaker 20: as anything less than the most evil regime on the

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Speaker 20: face of the Earth.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, I think a lot of this is

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Speaker 1: we've let a ton of people, millions of people in

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Speaker 1: our country that hate us, and it's the third worlding

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Speaker 1: of the United States, and we're living the consequences right now,

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Speaker 1: but probably nowhere, as I guess poignant. Can you feel

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Speaker 1: that as New York City, you're your home where you live.

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Speaker 1: And there's a bunch of reporting now out from the

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Speaker 1: New York Post of Rama Duagi. I think I got

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Speaker 1: her name right finally, that is the wife of Mayor

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Speaker 1: Mom Donnie. And you could go up and throw this

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Speaker 1: image up and says in a series of unearthed social

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Speaker 1: media posts, Rama Duagi reportedly celebrated Palestinian plane hijacker Leela

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Speaker 1: Khalid Khalid Like this is shocking stuff. Yeah, there you go.

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Speaker 1: The New York Post is reporting it. This is you know,

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Speaker 1: anti Israel activists who called she's associating with some anti

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Speaker 1: Israel activists who called Jews cockroaches, has multiple links to

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Speaker 1: Mom Donnie's family. This is the you know. It was

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Speaker 1: interesting because we had Coach Tupperville on the show and

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Speaker 1: he said the enemy is inside the gates now, and

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Speaker 1: it became this huge back and forth with Chuck Schumer,

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Speaker 1: what is going on in New York City and how

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Speaker 1: bad really is this mayor's office.

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Speaker 20: Well, it's really concerning, and this is on the heels

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Speaker 20: I mean, there's been a few pretty alarming headlines coming

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Speaker 20: out against about Rama. The most recent one, just in

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Speaker 20: the last twelve hours or so, is that, of course,

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Speaker 20: she had liked all of these posts and reposted them

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Speaker 20: on Tumblr, which not a lot of people are on

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Speaker 20: Tumblr anymore, but one, for instance, says, American soldiers fighting

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Speaker 20: in imperialist wars not brave, nor are they fighting for

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Speaker 20: anyone's freedom. They're mercilessly slaughtering third world civilians and fighting

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Speaker 20: to maintain American hegemony. That's just kind of a flavor

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Speaker 20: of the things. And she's also used to the ords

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Speaker 20: a lot of funs and.

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Speaker 1: Things out there.

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Speaker 20: And it comes on the heels of another report that

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Speaker 20: she was illustrating a children's book, or not a children's book, sorry,

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Speaker 20: illustrating a book written by a woman who said things

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Speaker 20: like Jews are cockroaches, they're rabid demons, they're sons of Satan.

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Speaker 20: So this is this is a ongoing issue, and we

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Speaker 20: see obviously goes back to when she was a young

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Speaker 20: woman and her teens, but it's continuing. This isn't like

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Speaker 20: one little thing that she said ten years ago. This

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Speaker 20: is a long seated issue that's extended for decades. And

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Speaker 20: so of course she was lauded and celebrated when Mom

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Speaker 20: Donnie was first elected. She had this fabulous photo shoot

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Speaker 20: in New York Magazine and she was heralded as this

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Speaker 20: artist in greasy mansion, and she was just so wonderful.

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Speaker 20: And it's interesting to see there hadn't been a lot

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Speaker 20: of sort of oppo research or reporting on her specifically,

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Speaker 20: but now that we're seeing all these things, I'm I'm

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Speaker 20: waiting for New York Magazine and some of these other

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Speaker 20: publications that just lionized and celebrated her to come out

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Speaker 20: and say, oh, we apologize for featuring and lauding a

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Speaker 20: woman who likes and reposts things that are extremely not

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Speaker 20: even just offensive, but things that are advocating for terrorism.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, welcome to New York.

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Speaker 15: Yeah.

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Speaker 20: I mean I feel like paying for her to be

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Speaker 20: a greasy mansion.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 14: And I just want to flag like when they say

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Speaker 14: like liked posts, you know, liked this person who is

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Speaker 14: in the PSLF that they're basically the ones who pioneered

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Speaker 14: aircraft hijackings. Like a big reason I think al Qaeda

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Speaker 14: might have thought, let's hijack planes and fly them into

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Speaker 14: buildings is because this Palestinian group kind of popularized aircraft

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Speaker 14: hijackings as this dramatic political terrorist stunt in the sixties

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Speaker 14: and seventies. They were doing one every few weeks basically

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Speaker 14: for a long time.

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Speaker 20: Yeah, yeah, and then I would also know it too,

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Speaker 20: so it's sort of been a one two three punch.

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Speaker 20: There was also a story last week that came out

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Speaker 20: that she had liked a bunch of pro terrorist pro

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Speaker 20: Hamas posts in the wake of October seventh, obviously a

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Speaker 20: horrible day. And to have somebody again, who Mam Donnie

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Speaker 20: cosplays is somebody who cares about everyone in the community.

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Speaker 20: To have someone in Gracie Mansion who's celebrating the murder

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Speaker 20: and the rape of Jews is just it's beyond And

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Speaker 20: I would note, you know you said New York has

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Speaker 20: obviously changed a lot. In the wake of his election,

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Speaker 20: everyone kept saying like, oh, how could a city that was,

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Speaker 20: you know, sustained a terrorist attack just two decades earlier

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Speaker 20: vote for this and it's interesting among the people who

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Speaker 20: actually have lived here for more than five years, more

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Speaker 20: than ten years, Mom, Donnie did not win. It was

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Speaker 20: really new people who've been coming here who elected him.

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Speaker 1: Are those newcomers from the US or are we talking immigrant?

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Speaker 20: Yeah no, no, no, no, no, no, yeah no, people who

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Speaker 20: have moved here from outside the US.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. We got to get a handle on our legal

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Speaker 1: immigration system. It's a big theme on this show. Lydia moynihan,

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Speaker 1: thank you so much. Great to have you your first

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Speaker 1: time on the show. We'll have you on again soon.

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Speaker 1: I'm sure being Andrew such a pleasure.

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Speaker 7: Thank you.

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Speaker 1: Alex Marlow joins us.

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Speaker 20: Next.

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Speaker 16: Welcome back to this Real America's Voice news break. I'm

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Speaker 16: Terrence Bates. Senator Mark Wayne Mullen. President Trump's pick to

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Speaker 16: succeed Christy Nome as Secretary of Homeland Security is headed

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Speaker 16: for confirmation before the full Senate. His nomination advanced out

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Speaker 16: of the Senate Homeland Security Committee this morning along a

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Speaker 16: near party line vote. Republican Senator Ran Paul voted no,

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Speaker 16: while Democrat Pennsylvania Senator John Fetterman broke with his party

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Speaker 16: and voted yes. Wednesday's confirmation hearing started with fireworks between

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Speaker 16: Senators Paul and Mullen after Paul criticized Mullen for remarks

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Speaker 16: the Oklahoma senator made about a twenty seventeen attack on

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Speaker 16: Paul that set off a personal face off between the duo.

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Speaker 22: So for you to say I'm a liar, sir, that's

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Speaker 22: not accurate, and I got proof to say that because

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Speaker 22: you've spent millions of dollars in my campaigns against me,

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Speaker 22: because we just don't get along. However, Sir, that doesn't

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Speaker 22: keep me at all from.

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Speaker 7: Doing my job.

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Speaker 22: I can have different opinions with everybody in this room,

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Speaker 22: but as Secretary of Homeland, I'll be protecting everybody, including Kentucky,

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Speaker 22: as much as I will my own back guard in Oklahoma.

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Speaker 16: Senate Majority leader John Thune says he believes Mullen will

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Speaker 16: win confirmation before the full Senate despite Paul's holdout. A

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Speaker 16: vote is expected sometime next week. The Pentagon hosted its

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Speaker 16: latest press this morning, discussing the war in Iran, and

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Speaker 16: Secretary of War Pete Hegseth used the stage to talk

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Speaker 16: directly to the American.

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Speaker 2: People the world, to the least our ungrateful allies in Europe,

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Speaker 2: even segments of our own press should be saying one

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Speaker 2: thing to President Trump.

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Speaker 1: Thank you.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for the courage to stop this terror state.

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Speaker 2: From holding the world hostage with missiles while building or

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Speaker 2: attempting to build a nuclear bomb.

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Speaker 3: Thank you for doing the work of the free world.

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Speaker 16: Meantime, President Trump continues to honor America's fallen soldiers. On Wednesday,

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Speaker 16: he was at Dover Air Force Base in Delaware for

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Speaker 16: a dignified transfer ceremony bringing home the bodies of six

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Speaker 16: crew members of a refueling plane that went down over

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Speaker 16: a rock. That plane, by the way, was part of

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Speaker 16: Operation Epic Fury.

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Speaker 7: That's a quick check of your headlines.

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Speaker 1: further ado honor to have our next guest, Alex Marlowe,

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Speaker 1: editor in chief of brightbart News as well as host

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Speaker 1: of The Alex marlow Show. Welcome, my friends, good to

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Speaker 1: see you.

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Speaker 12: Well, good see you, Andrew. Thank you for having me

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Speaker 12: on The Kirk Show.

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Speaker 1: Listen, man, there's a there's a lot of stuff we've

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Speaker 1: been going through, story after story, but I want to

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Speaker 1: I want to zoom out on the state of the movement.

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Speaker 12: Right Yeah, there was this poll.

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Speaker 1: Yesterday that was circulating. CNN had it up. I believe

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Speaker 1: they conducted the poll that set one hundred percent of

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Speaker 1: MAGA supports the president. I just don't believe that that's

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Speaker 1: statistically possible or true. I don't know where they got

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Speaker 1: that from or how they pose the question, but there's

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Speaker 1: no doubt that this Iranian conflict, war excursion, whatever you

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Speaker 1: want to call it is is you know, it's a

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Speaker 1: challenge to the movement. You see Megan Kelly sounding off,

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Speaker 1: you see Tucker Carlson, you have the Joe Kent resignation.

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Speaker 1: There is a lot of noise out there right now. Alex,

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Speaker 1: what how do you process this? How are you thinking

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Speaker 1: about it?

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Speaker 7: Yeah?

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Speaker 23: Thank you, Yeah, it's It's a great question to ask,

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Speaker 23: because this is the question for the year, because we

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Speaker 23: all want MAGA to endure. We all want to make

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Speaker 23: sure that Americans are safe and prospress and thriving. And

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Speaker 23: then the question is, is this war that's going on

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Speaker 23: right right now is getting us closer to that? And

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Speaker 23: I think there's going to be a lot of people

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Speaker 23: who think that the president has earned a lot of credibility.

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Speaker 23: And I'm in that group where he gets a little

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Speaker 23: leeway here. If he feels like he'd the imperative and

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Speaker 23: the intelligence to weigh just successful war, that he should

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Speaker 23: have a little time to do it. If he's doing

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Speaker 23: his strategic bombings, he's trying to take out high profile targets.

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Speaker 23: And if you look at sort of a reasonable standard,

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Speaker 23: is are we devastating Iran's ballistic missile capabilities? Are we

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Speaker 23: are we devastating their ability to create nuclear weaponry? Are

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Speaker 23: we perhaps making so that it's less likely they support

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Speaker 23: terror proxies that kill ourselves and our allies in the region.

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Speaker 23: And then it's been pretty successful so far. But if

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Speaker 23: you look at it the way Joe can't frame it

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Speaker 23: up on Tucker's show yesterday, which is that Iran was

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Speaker 23: never really going to develop a nuclear weapon and that

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Speaker 23: they were only enriching as a bargaining tactic, and we

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Speaker 23: should have stuck around longer to bargain with Iran. And

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Speaker 23: you take that side, then obviously you're going to be

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Speaker 23: very discouraged about what's happening right now. And you see

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Speaker 23: one hundred nineteen barrels of oil and no real incentive

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Speaker 23: for a Ron to open up the straight of war moves,

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Speaker 23: and you could see this thing spiraling really quick. So

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Speaker 23: I feel like, whichever side you're on right now, I

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Speaker 23: do recommend operating with a cautious lens, because if you're

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Speaker 23: someone who's already thrown President Trump under the bus, then

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Speaker 23: it's probably because you are you're taking cues from a

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Speaker 23: really extreme but often credible and very persuasive faction.

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Speaker 12: Of the online right.

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Speaker 23: And if you are think that Trump is infallible here,

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Speaker 23: then unfortunately Middle East wars are in a place where

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Speaker 23: a lot of presidents falter.

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Speaker 12: So I see a lot of wisdom on.

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Speaker 23: Both sides, and that makes it a very tough one

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Speaker 23: because it's very hard to come in Andrew and declaratively

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Speaker 23: say this is going one way or the other.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so there's two you know, I watched clips.

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Speaker 1: I did not watch the whole thing, but there's two

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Speaker 1: clips floating around from Joe Kent's interview with Tucker Carlson.

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Speaker 12: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: One is basically kind of outlining the divergence. Let's say that,

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Speaker 1: and Pete Hegseth alluded to this that Israel and the

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Speaker 1: United States have oftentimes overlapping ambitions with the Iranian strikes,

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Speaker 1: sometimes their objectives diverge. So let's start there. What do

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Speaker 1: we make of this divergence? I personally, you understand that

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Speaker 1: Israel has its own objectives. Sure, that does not surprise me. However,

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Speaker 1: to suggest that President Trump is lacking any agency to

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Speaker 1: make his own decisions, especially on something where he's been

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Speaker 1: so consistent when it comes to Iran for at least

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Speaker 1: a decade about nuclear capabilities, I find it is a

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Speaker 1: bridge that's a little far from me to wrap the.

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Speaker 12: Heaterone totally with you on this.

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Speaker 23: So there's a couple of things that can't throughout there

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Speaker 23: that I think are very serious, and I think it'd

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Speaker 23: be wise for the White House to address them over time.

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Speaker 23: The first one is a suggestion that Trumpet sort of

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Speaker 23: moved the goalpost, and Iran is not on the brink

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Speaker 23: of getting a nuclear weapon. The end that their Enrichmond

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Speaker 23: was only designed as a negotiating tactic, It was not

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Speaker 23: designed to get nukes. This is something I have heard,

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Speaker 23: but is directly contradicted by the administration's line by a

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Speaker 23: CIA director John Ratleff, who said flat out that Iron

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Speaker 23: was enriching to create a new to destroy America in

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Speaker 23: our allies. And of course I'm lightly inclined to side

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Speaker 23: with the administration because they've built up a lot of

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Speaker 23: credibility with me. But can's on a joker, So that's

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Speaker 23: worth taking seriously. It's worth taking that on on a

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Speaker 23: serious level. I think that's real to understand that that

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Speaker 23: is a I think that's a legitimate concern that people

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Speaker 23: have got I start losing him is the suggestion that

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Speaker 23: Trump is only doing the bidding of Israel. Because throughout

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Speaker 23: the course of the two hours and I watched the

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Speaker 23: whole thing, both men really praised President Trump a lot.

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Speaker 23: But the whole implication of the whole text here is

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Speaker 23: that Trump is also getting played enrolled by Israel and

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Speaker 23: doing Israel's bidding, whether or not because he feels like

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Speaker 23: he's under threat, whether or not he's doing this because

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Speaker 23: he's easily manipulated of incoherent to me that Trump is

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Speaker 23: the greatest leader imaginable and the perfect guy for the moment,

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Speaker 23: but also is getting suckered by Israel, a country of

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Speaker 23: nine million people. That strikes me as a little in congruous,

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Speaker 23: And I think that's one that does make me question

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Speaker 23: some of what's going on and make me feel like

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Speaker 23: there's more than meets the eye to some of this conversation.

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Speaker 23: But it's clear that Israel definitely once regime change, they

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Speaker 23: think that some of our allies in the region, Saudi

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Speaker 23: Arabia and Guitar, who are sort of newer to the

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Speaker 23: America First Tent, largely since the Abraham Accords, which have

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Speaker 23: largely been a triumph, I think they would like to

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Speaker 23: see more widespread devastation to Iran than perhaps is in

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Speaker 23: our immediate interest in America.

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Speaker 12: So I don't think it's just Israel in the region.

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Speaker 23: But I think it would be nice to get something

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Speaker 23: clarity on some of those legitimate issues cant and Tucker

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01:20:46,720 --> 01:20:47,840
Speaker 23: rays in the conversation.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, so then it goes into obviously this point that

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01:20:53,479 --> 01:20:55,080
Speaker 1: and I played this in our one. I think it's

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01:20:55,080 --> 01:20:59,439
Speaker 1: worth playing again because you know, Joe Kent is now officially,

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01:21:00,000 --> 01:21:04,120
Speaker 1: we're told, under investigation by the FBI for leaking classified documents.

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01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,719
Speaker 1: And I want to be very clear, Joe Kent deployed

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Speaker 1: eleven times for the US military. He's that's unassailable.

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Speaker 12: All right, gold star husband.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, GoldStar husband lost his wife, you know, absolutely unassailable.

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Speaker 1: And a lot of my friends really love Joe Kent

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01:21:20,360 --> 01:21:23,600
Speaker 1: a lot. I don't know him that well personally. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this was an interesting moment when Tulca Gabbard was asked

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01:21:26,280 --> 01:21:27,920
Speaker 1: about it, and I want to get your take on it,

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Speaker 1: SOT twenty seven.

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Speaker 9: Do you agree or disagree with what this letter was

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01:21:32,520 --> 01:21:34,200
Speaker 9: put out by former Director Kent?

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Speaker 1: He said a lot of things in that letter.

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Speaker 18: Ultimately, we have provided the president with the intelligence assessments,

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01:21:43,280 --> 01:21:47,519
Speaker 18: and the president is elected by the American people and

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01:21:47,560 --> 01:21:50,360
Speaker 18: makes his own decisions based on the information that's available

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01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:50,800
Speaker 18: to him.

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Speaker 9: But do you agree with Does that statement he made

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01:21:53,720 --> 01:21:55,080
Speaker 9: blaming Israel concern you?

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01:21:55,600 --> 01:22:03,320
Speaker 1: Yes, that was a moment right there. Having she said yes,

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01:22:03,360 --> 01:22:06,120
Speaker 1: it was a little ambiguous of what she was actually saying.

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01:22:06,160 --> 01:22:09,840
Speaker 1: She was troubled by what did you think was communicated

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01:22:09,840 --> 01:22:10,640
Speaker 1: in that moment.

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Speaker 23: Alex Yeah, I think that's really I think he goes

1532
01:22:13,080 --> 01:22:15,000
Speaker 23: way too far in this regard, especially noting that there

1533
01:22:15,000 --> 01:22:17,160
Speaker 23: are other allies we have in the region who would

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01:22:17,280 --> 01:22:20,559
Speaker 23: like to see the regime change in Iran as well,

1535
01:22:20,640 --> 01:22:22,439
Speaker 23: and just the thought that Trump is just some sort

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01:22:22,479 --> 01:22:26,040
Speaker 23: of a patsy for Israel. It just doesn't make sense

1537
01:22:26,080 --> 01:22:29,760
Speaker 23: for anything else in Trump's character. And they cite one

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01:22:29,880 --> 01:22:32,280
Speaker 23: piece of evidence, which is the clip from Marco Rubio

1539
01:22:32,320 --> 01:22:34,479
Speaker 23: saying they got intell that Israel is going to go

1540
01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,080
Speaker 23: in and it was sort of a do or die moment,

1541
01:22:36,080 --> 01:22:38,320
Speaker 23: I guess for us to go in or not. I

1542
01:22:38,360 --> 01:22:40,040
Speaker 23: had a feeling that just one data point out of

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Speaker 23: millions that were probably part of the president's calculation. The

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01:22:42,680 --> 01:22:45,720
Speaker 23: president loves being a peacetime president. He loves starting no

1545
01:22:45,800 --> 01:22:47,880
Speaker 23: new wars, So you know, he's only doing this he

1546
01:22:48,000 --> 01:22:49,400
Speaker 23: knows a lot of his base is not going to

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Speaker 23: support it.

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Speaker 12: He's not a dumb person.

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Speaker 23: He's a very bright person who is very conscientious of

1550
01:22:53,600 --> 01:22:56,960
Speaker 23: his own people, his own supporters, and they knew not

1551
01:22:57,040 --> 01:22:58,720
Speaker 23: all of them were going to get on board, and

1552
01:22:58,760 --> 01:23:00,960
Speaker 23: that's why some of this it just goes way too

1553
01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:04,040
Speaker 23: far with the just blanket this is Israel's fault and

1554
01:23:04,080 --> 01:23:06,880
Speaker 23: Trump is a sucker for Israel. That does not compute

1555
01:23:06,920 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 23: to me. And I did find I got to say this.

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01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,320
Speaker 23: We're on the Charlie Kirk Show. I thought him speaking

1557
01:23:11,400 --> 01:23:14,519
Speaker 23: for Charlie was very crass to me. And it's the

1558
01:23:14,640 --> 01:23:16,920
Speaker 23: where all those of us who knew Charlie well, Andrew

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01:23:16,960 --> 01:23:17,960
Speaker 23: you knew him the best of all of us.

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01:23:18,000 --> 01:23:20,519
Speaker 12: I knew Charlie very well. It's a really delicate thing.

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01:23:20,560 --> 01:23:22,320
Speaker 23: And he was out there the biggest podcast in the world,

1562
01:23:22,320 --> 01:23:25,640
Speaker 23: speak in behalf of Charlie and speaking on behalf of

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01:23:26,600 --> 01:23:30,840
Speaker 23: in the context of implying perhaps Israel murdered Charlie and

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01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:33,360
Speaker 23: then using that in the exact contest to suggest that

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01:23:33,439 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 23: Israel is compelling America to bomb girls schools on iranium base.

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01:23:37,640 --> 01:23:39,800
Speaker 23: I mean, it's starting to get a little bit I'm

1567
01:23:39,840 --> 01:23:45,479
Speaker 23: seeing the orange jarn I always Thoughty in Philadelphia meme

1568
01:23:45,640 --> 01:23:47,760
Speaker 23: starts popping into my head here that now we're just

1569
01:23:47,800 --> 01:23:50,160
Speaker 23: connecting all sorts of different dots without the art evidence.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I want to get into that a little

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01:23:52,680 --> 01:23:56,280
Speaker 1: bit more in the next segment, Alex, because you know,

1572
01:23:56,360 --> 01:23:58,960
Speaker 1: obviously I logged that I clocked that, Blake clocked it.

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01:23:59,040 --> 01:24:02,400
Speaker 1: We instantly shared that clip and discussed it, and I

1574
01:24:02,479 --> 01:24:05,880
Speaker 1: think it deserves a whole segment. Let's just wrap this

1575
01:24:05,960 --> 01:24:11,960
Speaker 1: segment up really quickly with you know, Megan Kelly tweeted

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Speaker 1: out something like, if you really want to destroy MAGA,

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Speaker 1: you know, have the CIA surveill Tucker and the FBI

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Speaker 1: in dict or the DOJ indict Joe Kent? Do you

1579
01:24:25,000 --> 01:24:27,519
Speaker 1: read it that way or do you think we're more

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Speaker 1: stable than that twenty seven?

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Speaker 23: I think were more stable than that, But I do

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Speaker 23: I take that into deep consideration. I'm a person who's

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Speaker 23: a very online conservative person. I'm aware of where the

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Speaker 23: pulse of a lot of the highest energy people online are,

1585
01:24:41,120 --> 01:24:43,520
Speaker 23: and they really like Joe Kent, and they're very skeptical

1586
01:24:43,720 --> 01:24:46,519
Speaker 23: of us doing Israel's bidding at all. And that's a

1587
01:24:46,560 --> 01:24:50,720
Speaker 23: real factor here. But the FBI investigation started earlier, and

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01:24:50,760 --> 01:24:53,639
Speaker 23: we know they are these strange leaks that are certainly

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01:24:53,680 --> 01:24:56,719
Speaker 23: designed to put some sort of a wadge between America

1590
01:24:56,760 --> 01:24:59,519
Speaker 23: and Israel. And some people in this audience probably think

1591
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Speaker 23: that's deserved, but it's certainly a thing that's happening, but

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Speaker 23: it's worth considering.

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Speaker 1: All right, real quick, here more with Alex Marlin on

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Speaker 1: all right, Welcome back more with Alex Marlow here on

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Speaker 1: the Charlie Kirk Show. And let's just let's just hear

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Speaker 1: this clip. This was obviously with Tucker Carlson, Joe Kent

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Speaker 1: tot thirty one.

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Speaker 24: And then you know, Charlie Kirk is killed publicly in

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01:26:25,120 --> 01:26:27,800
Speaker 24: a very horrific way, and we're not really even allowed

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Speaker 24: to look into that at all. And Charlie Kirk was

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Speaker 24: one of President Trump's closest advisors, and he also advocated

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Speaker 24: heavily against a war with Iran. He was in the

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Speaker 24: Oval Office in the lead up to the Twelve Day War.

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Speaker 24: I wasn't particularly close with Charlie. He was very gracious

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Speaker 24: to me when I was running for Congress, very very supportive,

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Speaker 24: So we knew each other. And the last time I

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Speaker 24: saw Charlie Kirk on this earth was in June in

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Speaker 24: the West Wing and he said, Joe, stop us from

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Speaker 24: getting into a war with Iran. So when one of

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Speaker 24: President Trump's close advisors who is vocally advocating for us

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Speaker 24: to not go to war with Iran and for us

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Speaker 24: to rethink at least our relationship with the Israelis, and

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01:27:11,360 --> 01:27:15,120
Speaker 24: then he suddenly publicly assassinated and we're not allowed to

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01:27:15,160 --> 01:27:16,760
Speaker 24: ask any questions about that.

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01:27:18,960 --> 01:27:21,160
Speaker 1: So he says, we're not allowed to ask any questions

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01:27:21,200 --> 01:27:24,880
Speaker 1: about that. I can personally attest that I don't believe

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Speaker 1: that that is the truth. I believe there's been a

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01:27:28,680 --> 01:27:33,439
Speaker 1: billion questions asked, both you know, publicly and privately behind

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01:27:33,479 --> 01:27:36,519
Speaker 1: the scenes. So many leads have been pursued. Alex, what

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01:27:37,439 --> 01:27:39,120
Speaker 1: get your reaction? And then I'm gonna throw to Blake.

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01:27:39,760 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 7: Yeah.

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01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:42,600
Speaker 23: I first of all, I think that Charlie did not

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01:27:42,720 --> 01:27:45,880
Speaker 23: want Regene change war in Iran, but he did support

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01:27:45,880 --> 01:27:47,719
Speaker 23: the president. I think he would have given them president

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01:27:48,320 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 23: a wide berth and a certain level of trust. I

1642
01:27:50,479 --> 01:27:52,640
Speaker 23: don't think it would have gone on indefinitely, but I

1643
01:27:52,680 --> 01:27:54,400
Speaker 23: think that, you know, two and a half weeks in

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:57,240
Speaker 23: that Joe Kennedy speaking on behalf of Charlie, I find

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01:27:57,240 --> 01:27:58,080
Speaker 23: that to be grotesque.

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01:27:58,080 --> 01:27:58,400
Speaker 12: I just do.

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01:27:58,520 --> 01:28:00,840
Speaker 23: And I'm a Joe Kent fan, So this is disappointing

1648
01:28:00,880 --> 01:28:03,599
Speaker 23: to me that he's going out there at this level

1649
01:28:03,640 --> 01:28:05,559
Speaker 23: because I think I respect so much of what he's

1650
01:28:05,560 --> 01:28:08,920
Speaker 23: done both in political life and of course his service

1651
01:28:09,040 --> 01:28:12,600
Speaker 23: is just just fantastic. And the fact that he's speculating

1652
01:28:13,040 --> 01:28:16,479
Speaker 23: at this level, I think that is connecting Charlie, who

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01:28:16,560 --> 01:28:19,760
Speaker 23: appears to have been murdered by a transferry freak, to

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01:28:20,280 --> 01:28:23,280
Speaker 23: what's going on in sort of Trump's Iran policy right now,

1655
01:28:24,000 --> 01:28:25,760
Speaker 23: it doesn't add up to me. And the thought that

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01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 23: Joe is saying this right after he left the government,

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01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:31,680
Speaker 23: we know, while he's under investigation by the FBI. The

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01:28:31,720 --> 01:28:35,120
Speaker 23: timing of it, so he leaves the government, and because

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01:28:35,160 --> 01:28:37,679
Speaker 23: he couldn't ask questions when he was in a position

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01:28:37,720 --> 01:28:40,200
Speaker 23: of immense power, now he's going in the private sector

1661
01:28:40,200 --> 01:28:42,479
Speaker 23: and getting a lot of attention. It just reeks to

1662
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,479
Speaker 23: me that there's something off. There's a variable we're not

1663
01:28:44,520 --> 01:28:46,840
Speaker 23: seeing here. But it doesn't make any sense that I

1664
01:28:46,840 --> 01:28:49,679
Speaker 23: couldn't ask questions. So now I'm quitting that doesn't add

1665
01:28:49,760 --> 01:28:51,799
Speaker 23: up as well. So there's something way off about this.

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01:28:54,320 --> 01:28:54,599
Speaker 1: Blake.

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Speaker 14: I mean, I'll be honest, I'm quite angry about what

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01:28:58,040 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 14: he did. I think his agenda was very clear. He's saying, oh,

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01:29:01,080 --> 01:29:02,200
Speaker 14: we're not allowed to ask questions.

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01:29:02,240 --> 01:29:02,280
Speaker 7: No.

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01:29:02,360 --> 01:29:03,920
Speaker 1: I believe we were allowed to ask questions.

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01:29:03,960 --> 01:29:06,360
Speaker 14: That's why the FBI investigated the crime, that's why they

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01:29:06,360 --> 01:29:10,240
Speaker 14: collaborated with Utah authorities to find and charge the suspect,

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01:29:10,320 --> 01:29:12,720
Speaker 14: which they did, and we have ample.

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01:29:12,439 --> 01:29:14,519
Speaker 1: Evidence that there is a ton of evidence in this case.

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Speaker 14: Maybe the reason he wasn't involved is it's actually not

1677
01:29:17,920 --> 01:29:21,200
Speaker 14: his department's job to investigate crimes once they're committed. Maybe

1678
01:29:21,240 --> 01:29:23,160
Speaker 14: the reason he wasn't looped in as much is because

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01:29:23,160 --> 01:29:26,560
Speaker 14: they already suspected him of leaking, and he appears to

1680
01:29:26,640 --> 01:29:30,160
Speaker 14: have continued to be leaking things. And I'm just I'm

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01:29:30,200 --> 01:29:33,320
Speaker 14: so angry about Charlie, a person we care about, being

1682
01:29:33,439 --> 01:29:38,080
Speaker 14: used in just as a political football, in this blatant

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01:29:38,120 --> 01:29:43,560
Speaker 14: way where he's using bits of like conversations.

1684
01:29:43,560 --> 01:29:46,320
Speaker 1: He supposedly had bits of evidence to really.

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01:29:47,720 --> 01:29:51,080
Speaker 14: Paint a picture that he can't actually demonstrate evidence for it.

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01:29:51,200 --> 01:29:54,200
Speaker 14: Just it made me very upset, and it demonstrated, frankly,

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01:29:54,240 --> 01:29:55,839
Speaker 14: why I suspect it's a good reason.

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01:29:55,640 --> 01:29:57,360
Speaker 1: He's not in government anymore.

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Speaker 14: I know a lot of people have fondness for him,

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01:30:00,200 --> 01:30:02,760
Speaker 14: but I think I think this was incredibly I think

1691
01:30:02,760 --> 01:30:04,519
Speaker 14: this was odious behavior by him.

1692
01:30:05,720 --> 01:30:09,160
Speaker 23: And you know, he dismisses some clear evidence on Trump's behalf.

1693
01:30:09,240 --> 01:30:11,240
Speaker 23: It doesn't come up in the conversation at all. I

1694
01:30:11,280 --> 01:30:14,080
Speaker 23: mentioned those other allies that were definitely would like to

1695
01:30:14,120 --> 01:30:17,200
Speaker 23: see even more done to Iran, But also think about

1696
01:30:17,200 --> 01:30:19,840
Speaker 23: how Trump basically laid out a red line a year

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01:30:19,880 --> 01:30:22,519
Speaker 23: ago in a letter saying no more ballistic missile development,

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Speaker 23: no more nuclear development to the point of beyond civilian means,

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01:30:26,840 --> 01:30:29,439
Speaker 23: and no more funning tear proxies. Iran literally did all

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01:30:29,439 --> 01:30:31,080
Speaker 23: three of those things. Joe Ken's aware of this, He's

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01:30:31,080 --> 01:30:33,200
Speaker 23: spoken about it, he's tweeted about it. He's even gone

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01:30:33,200 --> 01:30:35,479
Speaker 23: pretty far to say that he's called on Trump to

1703
01:30:36,160 --> 01:30:39,519
Speaker 23: basically knock out Iron's ballistic missile capabilities, which is.

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01:30:39,439 --> 01:30:40,559
Speaker 12: Pretty far out there.

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01:30:40,880 --> 01:30:43,280
Speaker 23: And then now he's here, and he just got there

1706
01:30:43,800 --> 01:30:45,920
Speaker 23: seemed like within a matter of two weeks.

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Speaker 12: It just is incongruous to me.

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01:30:47,840 --> 01:30:49,920
Speaker 14: I don't I want to fix it on that, because

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01:30:49,960 --> 01:30:52,240
Speaker 14: we know there are people who will say things publicly

1710
01:30:52,360 --> 01:30:55,200
Speaker 14: because they're on side or they're part of the movement.

1711
01:30:55,200 --> 01:30:58,760
Speaker 1: They might have private misgivings, but it's.

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01:30:59,720 --> 01:31:03,080
Speaker 14: It's just it's incredibly aggravating what he's done where he

1713
01:31:03,240 --> 01:31:06,000
Speaker 14: himself he has no evidence of the thing he's implying.

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01:31:06,080 --> 01:31:08,040
Speaker 14: All he can say is I was cut out of

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01:31:08,080 --> 01:31:10,800
Speaker 14: the investigation when it seems there's ample reason to cut

1716
01:31:10,880 --> 01:31:12,920
Speaker 14: him out of the investigation because he's a guy who

1717
01:31:13,040 --> 01:31:17,840
Speaker 14: runs off and does stuff like this, and I like

1718
01:31:18,160 --> 01:31:20,160
Speaker 14: will be that. We've been the first to say Charlie

1719
01:31:20,200 --> 01:31:23,000
Speaker 14: didn't want war with Iran. He argued against it. He

1720
01:31:23,120 --> 01:31:26,720
Speaker 14: argued against it to the president. We've tried very carefully

1721
01:31:26,880 --> 01:31:30,120
Speaker 14: to present what we knew Charlie believe how we think

1722
01:31:30,160 --> 01:31:33,799
Speaker 14: he might react to this, while acknowledging we aren't sure

1723
01:31:33,960 --> 01:31:35,400
Speaker 14: because he's no longer with us.

1724
01:31:35,439 --> 01:31:35,680
Speaker 1: We're not.

1725
01:31:35,720 --> 01:31:38,800
Speaker 14: We're trying to not use him as this blatant you know,

1726
01:31:39,040 --> 01:31:43,080
Speaker 14: veto power over everything. And I'm just so upset that

1727
01:31:43,760 --> 01:31:45,559
Speaker 14: Joe Kent runs off and this is like the first

1728
01:31:45,600 --> 01:31:47,559
Speaker 14: thing he does because he knows it'll go viral, he

1729
01:31:47,600 --> 01:31:49,960
Speaker 14: knows it'll get a ton of attention, when as he emits,

1730
01:31:50,040 --> 01:31:52,479
Speaker 14: he actually doesn't have anything, He has no evidence. He

1731
01:31:52,600 --> 01:31:55,559
Speaker 14: just does that classic we're not allowed to ask questions.

1732
01:31:55,640 --> 01:31:58,120
Speaker 14: A ton of people have asked questions they've never If

1733
01:31:58,160 --> 01:32:00,400
Speaker 14: they're given answers, they don't like the answer and they

1734
01:32:00,400 --> 01:32:01,599
Speaker 14: pretend they were never given them.

1735
01:32:02,360 --> 01:32:05,160
Speaker 23: Well, and the lack of hard evidence definitely strikes me.

1736
01:32:05,360 --> 01:32:08,960
Speaker 23: It's so speculative the argument that's being advanced, and just

1737
01:32:09,000 --> 01:32:12,320
Speaker 23: to repeat, just the invoking Charlie is just when he

1738
01:32:12,360 --> 01:32:14,559
Speaker 23: admits multiple times that he didn't know him very well,

1739
01:32:15,280 --> 01:32:16,360
Speaker 23: is really off putting to me.

1740
01:32:16,920 --> 01:32:20,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I just want to underscore a fact here

1741
01:32:20,320 --> 01:32:23,519
Speaker 1: because I'm privy to certain details that I'm not allowed

1742
01:32:23,560 --> 01:32:26,360
Speaker 1: to speak about publicly, and I want the audience to

1743
01:32:26,400 --> 01:32:31,960
Speaker 1: know every single question that has been floated in any way,

1744
01:32:31,960 --> 01:32:34,519
Speaker 1: shape or form, we have chased down and we have

1745
01:32:34,840 --> 01:32:37,439
Speaker 1: done our best to So my point is he's saying

1746
01:32:37,439 --> 01:32:39,719
Speaker 1: we're not allowed to ask questions. Well, just because you're

1747
01:32:39,720 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 1: not presented with the evidence doesn't mean or given access

1748
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:44,960
Speaker 1: to that part of the investigation. Doesn't mean that the

1749
01:32:45,040 --> 01:32:49,160
Speaker 1: questions haven't been asked and that the lines of inquiry

1750
01:32:49,200 --> 01:32:51,599
Speaker 1: haven't been followed. You know, that does not mean things

1751
01:32:51,640 --> 01:32:54,759
Speaker 1: have not been investigated, because I know a tremendous amount

1752
01:32:54,760 --> 01:32:59,040
Speaker 1: of things have been investigated, and by people that love Charlie,

1753
01:32:59,080 --> 01:33:02,880
Speaker 1: people that care about Charlie Charley. So I and here's

1754
01:33:02,920 --> 01:33:05,200
Speaker 1: the last thing, you know, And I constantly go back

1755
01:33:05,240 --> 01:33:07,479
Speaker 1: to this Turly quote in my head where he says,

1756
01:33:07,520 --> 01:33:10,040
Speaker 1: if ninety percent of the evidence against Tyler Robinson was

1757
01:33:10,080 --> 01:33:12,679
Speaker 1: thrown out, this guy would still get the death penalty.

1758
01:33:12,760 --> 01:33:16,040
Speaker 1: If the defense somehow succeeded in throwing ninety percent of

1759
01:33:16,080 --> 01:33:19,040
Speaker 1: this evidence out, he'd still be found guilty in a

1760
01:33:19,080 --> 01:33:22,600
Speaker 1: court of law. The mountain of evidence that is accumulated

1761
01:33:22,600 --> 01:33:28,000
Speaker 1: against this guy is incredible, and like, just believe me

1762
01:33:28,040 --> 01:33:31,840
Speaker 1: on that they have this guy completely. Did people seem

1763
01:33:31,840 --> 01:33:33,000
Speaker 1: to know about it beforehand?

1764
01:33:33,200 --> 01:33:33,439
Speaker 3: Yes?

1765
01:33:34,040 --> 01:33:37,280
Speaker 1: Was he radicalized by other people? Yes? I am desperate

1766
01:33:37,280 --> 01:33:40,400
Speaker 1: to get to the bottom of those questions. I'm even

1767
01:33:40,680 --> 01:33:42,920
Speaker 1: I'm open to all kinds of different things. But to

1768
01:33:42,920 --> 01:33:45,800
Speaker 1: suggest that somehow Tyler Robinson was not the guy that

1769
01:33:45,840 --> 01:33:49,920
Speaker 1: pulled the trigger, I think is a line where I

1770
01:33:50,040 --> 01:33:51,720
Speaker 1: just have to put my foot down and say no,

1771
01:33:51,920 --> 01:33:54,000
Speaker 1: this guy did. This guy did the deed, and he

1772
01:33:54,080 --> 01:33:58,960
Speaker 1: deserves to be punished by the court of law. Final

1773
01:33:59,000 --> 01:34:01,160
Speaker 1: thoughts to you, Alex ten seconds.

1774
01:34:01,560 --> 01:34:04,519
Speaker 12: Yeah, it's a it's a great it's a great summary.

1775
01:34:04,760 --> 01:34:09,080
Speaker 23: And all this is designed timed to do maximum damage

1776
01:34:09,120 --> 01:34:11,600
Speaker 23: to Trump at his war effort, which like or not,

1777
01:34:11,640 --> 01:34:13,240
Speaker 23: we're in it for at least a little bit longer,

1778
01:34:13,520 --> 01:34:15,559
Speaker 23: and divide the MAGA movement. And that's very sad to

1779
01:34:15,600 --> 01:34:18,000
Speaker 23: me as a OG member of the MAGA movement.

1780
01:34:18,680 --> 01:34:21,160
Speaker 1: Alex Marlow, thank you so much. We'll see guys tomorrow.