1 00:00:00,160 --> 00:00:03,040 Speaker 1: Questlove Supreme is a production of iHeartRadio. 2 00:00:08,240 --> 00:00:09,160 Speaker 2: What's Up Everybody? 3 00:00:09,160 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 3: This is Shuga Steve from questlov Supreme and we are 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 3: back with part two of our conversation with the incredible 5 00:00:14,680 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: James Poyser. We all make fun of each other, but 6 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:19,120 Speaker 3: James is a dear friend who has been a joy 7 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:21,079 Speaker 3: to work with over the last twenty I did not 8 00:00:21,160 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 3: write this. This is clearly written by somebody else. You 9 00:00:24,440 --> 00:00:27,120 Speaker 3: have heard him join QLs for our Fred Hammond interview 10 00:00:27,120 --> 00:00:29,560 Speaker 3: a few years ago, and he popped into let US's 11 00:00:29,640 --> 00:00:33,279 Speaker 3: Chat earlier this year. But this time James is in. 12 00:00:33,280 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 2: The hot scene. 13 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,440 Speaker 3: If you haven't go listen to part one, where he 14 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 3: talks about growing up in West Philly, his years as 15 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,880 Speaker 3: a gospel musician, and ultimately getting down with DJ Jazzy, Jeff, 16 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 3: Grandmaster Vic and Gamble and Huff as we celebrate Black 17 00:00:46,400 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 3: Music Month. James Poyser has been at the Ebby Center 18 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 3: of It for nearly thirty five years, and don't enjoy 19 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:53,800 Speaker 3: and thank you James. 20 00:00:54,880 --> 00:00:59,480 Speaker 4: Your first year of rotation with Professon Ales, I assume 21 00:00:59,560 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 4: ninety one ninety ninety three, Yeah, who are you gigging with? 22 00:01:02,800 --> 00:01:06,000 Speaker 4: Because I know probably the number one thing I'm asked, 23 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 4: like in my d M, it's just like can I. 24 00:01:09,360 --> 00:01:12,319 Speaker 1: Get a gig? Wow? 25 00:01:12,680 --> 00:01:12,920 Speaker 5: Same? 26 00:01:13,520 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 4: And you've never had to go through this. You never 27 00:01:15,160 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 4: had to Never audition that the guy because I don't 28 00:01:18,560 --> 00:01:22,039 Speaker 4: think I would get to work. I definitely wasn't getting chosen. 29 00:01:22,520 --> 00:01:24,200 Speaker 4: So you hear about the gig and you'd have to 30 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,959 Speaker 4: go to audition. And I remember going to this. I'm 31 00:01:26,959 --> 00:01:28,920 Speaker 4: not gonna say that you audition for Boys to Men. 32 00:01:30,080 --> 00:01:31,120 Speaker 6: You were just about to say it. 33 00:01:34,040 --> 00:01:37,600 Speaker 7: That was incredible, Toll brothers and y'all ready each other's mind. 34 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: It was cute. 35 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,119 Speaker 8: Oh, you were about to say that. But this wasn't 36 00:01:40,120 --> 00:01:42,840 Speaker 8: the Philly band. This was a New York band that 37 00:01:43,000 --> 00:01:45,120 Speaker 8: was doing it. I'll never forget. I took the train 38 00:01:45,200 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 8: up here to rehearsal and boys and Men walked in 39 00:01:48,400 --> 00:01:50,120 Speaker 8: and they was like, okay, let's do the song. And 40 00:01:50,160 --> 00:01:53,120 Speaker 8: I was like, I don't know the song and just 41 00:01:53,160 --> 00:01:56,000 Speaker 8: let this go. And I've never heard the song, so 42 00:01:56,120 --> 00:01:59,320 Speaker 8: that everybody's playing and I'm like, and I think boys 43 00:01:59,320 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 8: and Men said something walked down the MD was like, yo, man, 44 00:02:01,480 --> 00:02:02,520 Speaker 8: you need to know the music. 45 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:04,640 Speaker 1: It's like, nobody sent me to music. 46 00:02:04,680 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: How I was supposed to know what. 47 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:09,240 Speaker 8: I don't know because we already established I think because 48 00:02:09,560 --> 00:02:11,280 Speaker 8: the MD at the time was just like. 49 00:02:13,200 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: You messed up. Damn, I got to send you the tape. 50 00:02:23,240 --> 00:02:27,760 Speaker 4: Yes, I thought, now I'll admit that I didn't know 51 00:02:27,840 --> 00:02:32,000 Speaker 4: about like the auditions for that, And after the four 52 00:02:32,120 --> 00:02:33,560 Speaker 4: I was like, Yo, why did y'all call me for it? 53 00:02:34,080 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 4: We thought you knew about it? Everybody knew about it, but. 54 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:40,200 Speaker 1: I didn't know musicians at all, And so like, how 55 00:02:40,200 --> 00:02:40,880 Speaker 1: do you know? 56 00:02:41,880 --> 00:02:46,000 Speaker 8: It's just being in those circles, you know, being around 57 00:02:46,440 --> 00:02:48,440 Speaker 8: you're on the church scene, or around the boys and 58 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:50,519 Speaker 8: guys in the club scene. You hear about things, Hey, 59 00:02:50,560 --> 00:02:52,359 Speaker 8: so and so looking for a band I put a 60 00:02:52,400 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 8: band together or YadA YadA. 61 00:02:53,840 --> 00:02:58,840 Speaker 4: All right, So today, of course, if you're six degrees 62 00:02:58,919 --> 00:03:05,960 Speaker 4: to Blackstone, six degrees to Omar, I don't know who 63 00:03:06,120 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 4: else is man man all of them. Yeah right, So 64 00:03:09,840 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 4: if your six degrees to them, chances are you're going 65 00:03:13,280 --> 00:03:15,800 Speaker 4: to find some work, because I mean, Adam controls at 66 00:03:15,840 --> 00:03:18,360 Speaker 4: least seventeen acts, so. 67 00:03:18,320 --> 00:03:19,840 Speaker 1: He's looking for it, you know what I mean? 68 00:03:20,280 --> 00:03:24,440 Speaker 4: But what was the lay of the land in the 69 00:03:24,520 --> 00:03:27,200 Speaker 4: early nineties, Like who should I have known to make 70 00:03:27,240 --> 00:03:30,840 Speaker 4: my dad. My dad wanted me in that session circle thing. 71 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 4: So who should I have known too? Because even Clayton 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,560 Speaker 4: sears like audition for boys and minute I'm. 73 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:46,080 Speaker 8: Like, yeah, Clay, Clay Clay. So it was just guys. 74 00:03:46,360 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: I can't really put a you have to play with people. 75 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: Who's the black See. I thought knowing Bill jolly Bill, jolly. 76 00:03:54,200 --> 00:03:56,880 Speaker 6: Jolly Bill, jolly Bill, jolly Yeah. 77 00:03:57,400 --> 00:04:00,720 Speaker 1: I thought knowing him would be like, you're in. 78 00:04:01,040 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 8: What's crazy is that it seems to me that the 79 00:04:04,600 --> 00:04:08,520 Speaker 8: guys that have those runs as mts are mostly bass players. 80 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 8: It's kind of funny. Ricky Minor, Yeah, current Kurrent Brantley 81 00:04:12,800 --> 00:04:16,080 Speaker 8: was a guy back in that area that ran pretty 82 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,400 Speaker 8: much put all the bands together and that was that 83 00:04:18,520 --> 00:04:20,400 Speaker 8: was black you know, Black Store. 84 00:04:21,160 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 1: So the bass players are Randy. 85 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:30,600 Speaker 4: Jackson, Randy, Yeah, it makes sense to Rachel, right. 86 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:30,920 Speaker 2: Yeah. 87 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:33,919 Speaker 8: So just being around and I was so I was 88 00:04:33,920 --> 00:04:36,200 Speaker 8: playing with the wedding bands too at the time that 89 00:04:36,279 --> 00:04:38,320 Speaker 8: if I didn't mention that, oh my god, I was 90 00:04:38,320 --> 00:04:41,320 Speaker 8: playing the wedding bands and that was I was making 91 00:04:41,320 --> 00:04:44,360 Speaker 8: money on the wedding. I would play like I would 92 00:04:44,400 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 8: play the opening whatever that is. Then the ceremony and 93 00:04:48,040 --> 00:04:50,880 Speaker 8: the cocktail and then the actual. 94 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:54,400 Speaker 1: Is there a fake book for the wedding circuit? 95 00:04:54,839 --> 00:04:58,080 Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, yeah, but it's just the top all the 96 00:04:58,080 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 8: top forty stuff, right and the whole. Yeah. Yeah, we 97 00:05:02,839 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 8: were played. We were played a hard like shouting music. 98 00:05:10,400 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 1: Everybody dancing the drunk, so they. 99 00:05:11,960 --> 00:05:12,840 Speaker 5: Don't know what's going on. 100 00:05:15,680 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 1: All these city line avenue weddings. Yeah. 101 00:05:19,880 --> 00:05:23,000 Speaker 8: It was now my last wedding that I did. I 102 00:05:23,000 --> 00:05:24,919 Speaker 8: had to drive on a half to this country club. 103 00:05:26,720 --> 00:05:29,600 Speaker 8: I did the opening thing whatever, just a lot of 104 00:05:29,680 --> 00:05:33,120 Speaker 8: stuff is piano only, and then the party is with 105 00:05:33,200 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 8: the full band. So I did that, did the ceremony, 106 00:05:35,279 --> 00:05:40,520 Speaker 8: did the cocktail, did the party after us, I'm exhausted, 107 00:05:41,440 --> 00:05:44,760 Speaker 8: carrying my keyboard, I had my black tucks on both 108 00:05:45,120 --> 00:05:47,599 Speaker 8: camera stuff to my car and this little old lady 109 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:52,400 Speaker 8: dismissively without looking at me, passing me up a valet 110 00:05:52,440 --> 00:05:54,000 Speaker 8: ticket and here get my car from what? 111 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 5: And I quit the next day? 112 00:05:58,800 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, we pass I wish you would have took the 113 00:06:01,320 --> 00:06:06,680 Speaker 1: car and just took high school teams would have done 114 00:06:06,680 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 1: that ship all right. 115 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:14,039 Speaker 4: So I remember the first time we played together, and 116 00:06:14,080 --> 00:06:16,800 Speaker 4: I've told this story before the last day of Hilladolph 117 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,279 Speaker 4: Half Life. 118 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,480 Speaker 1: DiAngelo came to Philly. 119 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:25,279 Speaker 4: To record The Knotic The Hypnotic and then we had 120 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 4: like six hours of spirit. We did a whole lockout, 121 00:06:28,279 --> 00:06:31,279 Speaker 4: but we knocked the Hypnotic out in like ninety minutes. 122 00:06:31,320 --> 00:06:33,760 Speaker 4: Like that's how fast he was with harmonizing. 123 00:06:33,960 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, Dangelo works really fast. 124 00:06:35,720 --> 00:06:43,800 Speaker 4: Yes, And so we took a food break and then 125 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,000 Speaker 4: it was like, well shit, we got you know, time 126 00:06:46,040 --> 00:06:48,839 Speaker 4: on the clock and we did the whole do you 127 00:06:48,839 --> 00:06:50,159 Speaker 4: know the song? Do you know this song? Do you 128 00:06:50,160 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 4: know this song? Do you know this Song's you on 129 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:53,560 Speaker 4: the song? I was like, oh, damn, all right, he 130 00:06:53,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 4: knows what he's doing. And that's when Rich said to me, 131 00:06:58,839 --> 00:07:02,760 Speaker 4: well not for nothing, because in my mind I was like, yeah, man, 132 00:07:02,800 --> 00:07:05,120 Speaker 4: this out these types of chords, this is what I want. 133 00:07:05,560 --> 00:07:08,000 Speaker 1: Come on you no no, no, no, no, no no. And 134 00:07:08,080 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 1: Rich was like, well not for nothing. 135 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:13,280 Speaker 4: I said, you got someone does better chords than him 136 00:07:13,320 --> 00:07:15,680 Speaker 4: in Philadelphia, you know, in the backyard. I was like, oh, 137 00:07:16,240 --> 00:07:19,120 Speaker 4: he's like James Poyser. I was like, who's James Spoyser. 138 00:07:19,800 --> 00:07:21,680 Speaker 4: He's like, you don't know James Poyser. You know the 139 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 4: guy He's like describing it wasn't coming to me, and 140 00:07:24,840 --> 00:07:27,040 Speaker 4: he said Philly International And I was like, then, I 141 00:07:27,040 --> 00:07:30,920 Speaker 4: remember the Apollo in London and that stuff. I was like, oh, 142 00:07:30,960 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 4: that guy he plays keyboards, and so he said, yeah, 143 00:07:34,080 --> 00:07:37,480 Speaker 4: matter of fact, I'm gonna call him. Kadar want sister 144 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 4: work with one of his clients, and she's gonna come 145 00:07:40,520 --> 00:07:42,160 Speaker 4: in from Dallas. 146 00:07:43,120 --> 00:07:47,840 Speaker 1: And this was maybe four or five days later. So 147 00:07:48,720 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 1: what I do remember. 148 00:07:49,840 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 4: Though, is because she was young, fresh and new, he 149 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,640 Speaker 4: going back to uh sugar Steve with doing everything. This 150 00:08:04,720 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 4: is the one time I remember Michael D'Angelo Archers showing up, No, 151 00:08:11,400 --> 00:08:12,320 Speaker 4: three hours early. 152 00:08:13,240 --> 00:08:16,080 Speaker 6: Wow, he's fine, still fine. 153 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 4: He was already back in New York. And I was like, yeah, man, 154 00:08:19,200 --> 00:08:20,440 Speaker 4: I said, we're working with the. 155 00:08:22,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: Girl Eric abad. 156 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:26,720 Speaker 8: As. 157 00:08:30,760 --> 00:08:35,000 Speaker 1: I said, what what? I said? Yeah, we're working with 158 00:08:35,040 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 1: Eric Abadu. When when? 159 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:40,400 Speaker 4: When I said, uh, I don't know, a couple of 160 00:08:40,440 --> 00:08:42,800 Speaker 4: hours when she gets here. She she's taking the bus 161 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:46,240 Speaker 4: down and we're gonna work with her. Said oh, we're okay, 162 00:08:46,960 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 4: So how long? I said, probably like three days or 163 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:54,240 Speaker 4: something like that. Oh we're three days. Huh, she's staying there. 164 00:08:55,080 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 4: I'm not even knowing. I'm falling trap. I said, she's 165 00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:03,920 Speaker 4: staying down there. I said, I think so, I said, actually, 166 00:09:03,960 --> 00:09:07,679 Speaker 4: I think some convention in town. So she can't even 167 00:09:08,240 --> 00:09:10,400 Speaker 4: I don't know if she's like coming from New York 168 00:09:10,480 --> 00:09:13,800 Speaker 4: or whatever the case. I think she's like gonna crashing 169 00:09:13,840 --> 00:09:26,800 Speaker 4: Tarik's house. I'm not exaggerating what I said. Yeah, because 170 00:09:26,960 --> 00:09:30,440 Speaker 4: she the first week of Batleism, Tarik let her stay 171 00:09:30,480 --> 00:09:32,880 Speaker 4: in his apartment because he was doing something else. Yeah, 172 00:09:32,880 --> 00:09:36,960 Speaker 4: she's gonna stay with Trekan the Motherfuckers was at Sigma 173 00:09:37,960 --> 00:09:40,760 Speaker 4: and so then we had a jam that night. 174 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 8: Yeah. 175 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,360 Speaker 1: Yeah, we I mean we even get the story so well. 176 00:09:46,440 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 4: I mean this is that I listened to the work 177 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 4: cassette of day one. We basically I think the other 178 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:58,520 Speaker 4: side of the game came within damn near three minutes 179 00:09:59,520 --> 00:10:00,559 Speaker 4: instant aaneously. 180 00:10:00,679 --> 00:10:03,760 Speaker 6: Can you so tell us about the song's workload situation, 181 00:10:03,800 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 6: because I'm like, so. 182 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:06,360 Speaker 8: Can I go back a little bit? 183 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:06,640 Speaker 4: Yeah? 184 00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,600 Speaker 8: So at Filly National and I started working with this 185 00:10:09,679 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 8: guy's his name is Fatiene Dance. So me and fatimare 186 00:10:15,640 --> 00:10:17,960 Speaker 8: writing songs here and there, doing some gigs. I would 187 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 8: go to overbook and play and he would say, you 188 00:10:20,360 --> 00:10:23,200 Speaker 8: know whatever, And one day he hit me like, Yo, 189 00:10:23,360 --> 00:10:25,360 Speaker 8: just these girls, I'm writing for it because of Jazzy, 190 00:10:25,360 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 8: fat nasty. 191 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,079 Speaker 1: Come on, man, come down. 192 00:10:28,360 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 8: So that's when I first met Rich at the house. 193 00:10:32,559 --> 00:10:34,920 Speaker 8: And so he came to the house. Yeah okay, and 194 00:10:35,080 --> 00:10:36,559 Speaker 8: you guys are on the road I think at the time. 195 00:10:36,640 --> 00:10:39,400 Speaker 4: Yeah, absolutely, So I brought the jazz us to Philadelphia 196 00:10:39,600 --> 00:10:42,240 Speaker 4: to you know, hopefully work with him or whatever. 197 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 8: So so that's when me and Rich developed this relationship. 198 00:10:45,880 --> 00:10:51,319 Speaker 8: Rich Nichols, Rich Nichols, and and that's why Rich already 199 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:52,120 Speaker 8: about me. 200 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:53,040 Speaker 1: What was that? 201 00:10:53,040 --> 00:10:55,600 Speaker 2: So was y'all what's the record? Uncle? Vention? 202 00:10:55,760 --> 00:10:56,040 Speaker 1: Ways? 203 00:10:56,120 --> 00:10:56,400 Speaker 2: Was that? 204 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: Yah? Yeah he did that? 205 00:11:00,200 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: Yeah, Nah, I love that record. Man, That was my one. 206 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:07,840 Speaker 4: But I will still maintain that, you know, of all 207 00:11:07,880 --> 00:11:11,080 Speaker 4: the projects we had our hands in, I felt that 208 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:15,720 Speaker 4: we went by that project totally wrong. Now, granted, the 209 00:11:15,720 --> 00:11:20,840 Speaker 4: fifth beatle Ms situation was Mercedes' brother Jay Swift, producer 210 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:25,840 Speaker 4: of the Far Side, and way before I became known 211 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 4: for being god guy for j Dill's music, the shit 212 00:11:30,200 --> 00:11:34,719 Speaker 4: that he did on their record was and this is 213 00:11:34,760 --> 00:11:37,560 Speaker 4: way before like what's the four to one one? Really 214 00:11:37,760 --> 00:11:41,559 Speaker 4: was the first? Yeah, singers can do what rappers do 215 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:44,560 Speaker 4: to type of thing, because I remember, like when we 216 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:47,040 Speaker 4: first got that thing, we just looked at each other 217 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:49,920 Speaker 4: in the van, like, wait, she an't allowed to sing. 218 00:11:49,760 --> 00:11:52,480 Speaker 1: On No Loops? Like what the fuck? 219 00:11:52,800 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 4: It's like a rap record, like singers allowed to make 220 00:11:56,160 --> 00:11:57,440 Speaker 4: you know, like we were. 221 00:11:57,840 --> 00:11:59,720 Speaker 1: I was against it. I was like, no, it's like 222 00:11:59,720 --> 00:12:00,480 Speaker 1: a rap that record. 223 00:12:00,520 --> 00:12:05,680 Speaker 4: No, And you know, but before that just broke me 224 00:12:05,760 --> 00:12:08,080 Speaker 4: down to like, Okay, this is where R and B 225 00:12:08,160 --> 00:12:11,959 Speaker 4: and hip hop really meet, Like the far Side record 226 00:12:12,280 --> 00:12:16,120 Speaker 4: was the far Side. The Jazzy Fat Nasty album, or 227 00:12:16,160 --> 00:12:19,600 Speaker 4: at least the seven songs that he did was just 228 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,280 Speaker 4: like I never heard that level break beat and beat 229 00:12:22,360 --> 00:12:28,320 Speaker 4: chopping and all that stuff. And then they got the Philadelphia. 230 00:12:27,360 --> 00:12:29,280 Speaker 1: And we just undid all day. 231 00:12:29,600 --> 00:12:34,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, and it was cool, but like at one point 232 00:12:34,960 --> 00:12:39,600 Speaker 4: they could have pulled a fantastic Volume one, Volume two 233 00:12:39,760 --> 00:12:44,040 Speaker 4: level of holy shit that's allowed on the record. And 234 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,440 Speaker 4: that's that's the one thing I regret about, like the 235 00:12:47,480 --> 00:12:50,520 Speaker 4: world and not seeing the Jazzy Fat Nasties that I saw. 236 00:12:50,760 --> 00:12:52,640 Speaker 2: Because those j Siff records would never released. 237 00:12:53,280 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: Yeah no, they weren't. They weren't. 238 00:12:55,240 --> 00:12:58,160 Speaker 4: I think at one point we put like one of 239 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,720 Speaker 4: their songs in that far and give a dog a 240 00:13:00,760 --> 00:13:07,640 Speaker 4: bone was kind of that, like, but yeah, so the 241 00:13:07,760 --> 00:13:10,600 Speaker 4: team brings you to the full, which makes total sense. 242 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,120 Speaker 1: We were on tour, so we really weren't. 243 00:13:12,640 --> 00:13:14,600 Speaker 6: So what's the plan forotball? Doism y'all come? 244 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 7: Like? 245 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:16,840 Speaker 6: How do y'all decide what's what needs to be done? 246 00:13:16,880 --> 00:13:18,920 Speaker 6: How her vision she was just. 247 00:13:18,800 --> 00:13:21,439 Speaker 4: Full of like I never saw someone just full of 248 00:13:21,520 --> 00:13:25,960 Speaker 4: a bunch of ideas. And she mentioned like I'm gonna 249 00:13:25,960 --> 00:13:28,840 Speaker 4: I got something that's gonna flip like bad boys, what 250 00:13:28,880 --> 00:13:31,360 Speaker 4: you're gonna do like that sort of thing. And I 251 00:13:31,400 --> 00:13:33,640 Speaker 4: was like, oh, that's cute. Like she always she had 252 00:13:33,640 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 4: a lot of courses ready. She was the first person 253 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:40,240 Speaker 4: I met that like instantly had a clever course ready 254 00:13:40,520 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 4: just in the stash. And so I remember when we 255 00:13:44,080 --> 00:13:47,640 Speaker 4: sat down three minutes in instantly, like the first course 256 00:13:47,640 --> 00:13:56,280 Speaker 4: he played was just the beginning, matter of fact, what 257 00:13:56,360 --> 00:13:59,200 Speaker 4: you're going right? I'm sorry, yes, other side of the game. 258 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:03,400 Speaker 4: So literally, when you hear the work tape and it's 259 00:14:03,480 --> 00:14:07,320 Speaker 4: not like you had it in the chamber or something, it. 260 00:14:07,480 --> 00:14:10,440 Speaker 1: Just you just all right, bridge here and you just do. 261 00:14:12,880 --> 00:14:17,800 Speaker 4: That's dope, and literally we cut that's the take that's 262 00:14:17,840 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 4: that's the take. Literally, like yeah, so whatnut, What you 263 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,080 Speaker 4: know is the other side of the game was musically 264 00:14:25,000 --> 00:14:28,760 Speaker 4: a first take and then you and Rich did a 265 00:14:28,760 --> 00:14:30,880 Speaker 4: lot of sweetening it up, like the horns, and so 266 00:14:30,960 --> 00:14:33,200 Speaker 4: I just knew it as a rhythm track me Hub 267 00:14:33,240 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 4: and you, and then it came. Yeah, it was like 268 00:14:37,280 --> 00:14:39,160 Speaker 4: a full song by the time I got home off 269 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,440 Speaker 4: the road and oh, this girl is gonna make it, 270 00:14:42,720 --> 00:14:46,240 Speaker 4: you know that sort of thing. And yes, Afro was real, 271 00:14:47,160 --> 00:14:51,080 Speaker 4: it was flat. I was asleep by that point, Like I. 272 00:14:51,040 --> 00:14:59,000 Speaker 9: Don't with Erica, man, I want to talk specifically about 273 00:14:59,000 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 9: Mama's Gun. That was your kind of you know, I 274 00:15:02,600 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 9: don't say your moment, but that was as I understood 275 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:07,760 Speaker 9: that they seeing it top the bottom, that was kind 276 00:15:07,760 --> 00:15:11,280 Speaker 9: of your executive you know, this producer decision. Talk about 277 00:15:11,320 --> 00:15:13,320 Speaker 9: that record, man oh man. 278 00:15:13,440 --> 00:15:18,120 Speaker 8: So just know that I had to leave the Voodoo Tour. 279 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 6: I was I don't even know who did y'all replace? 280 00:15:24,080 --> 00:15:24,680 Speaker 8: Change? 281 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,280 Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, JS. 282 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,000 Speaker 4: We started the Voodoo Tour in March first of two 283 00:15:32,000 --> 00:15:34,760 Speaker 4: thousand and all I remember is that we had the 284 00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:39,160 Speaker 4: eighty six Natalie Cole out of the theater for fight I. 285 00:15:39,120 --> 00:15:40,280 Speaker 6: Don't understand what you're saying. 286 00:15:41,240 --> 00:15:43,640 Speaker 1: I don't understand what the women were. 287 00:15:43,760 --> 00:15:45,400 Speaker 6: I know what that means, dude. 288 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:49,920 Speaker 1: The first week of Voodoo at the House of Blues 289 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:55,880 Speaker 1: was like Chippendale, and then it got bad. 290 00:15:55,920 --> 00:15:58,920 Speaker 8: It was then halfway through the tour take it. 291 00:15:59,000 --> 00:16:04,360 Speaker 4: Off the first eighteen minutes and mind you, we're preparing 292 00:16:04,400 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 4: like this three hour extravaganza of every musical reference in 293 00:16:08,600 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 4: the sun. Amazingly, they're looking at they watched it. Okay, 294 00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 4: what song are you gonna take your shirt off on? 295 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,600 Speaker 7: Which is crazy because to me, that at least to 296 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:18,680 Speaker 7: where he is today and not like that just ran 297 00:16:18,800 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 7: him away from wanting to be that person anymore in. 298 00:16:20,600 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: A way, but he's actually back to that day. 299 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:29,080 Speaker 6: Oh is it? Look at you? 300 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:32,200 Speaker 7: No pressure, mister, no pressure, Do what you need to 301 00:16:32,240 --> 00:16:33,640 Speaker 7: do to be comfortable and healthy. 302 00:16:33,360 --> 00:16:37,400 Speaker 6: Sir, good, yeah, mama, yes, yes, yes. 303 00:16:37,240 --> 00:16:41,280 Speaker 8: So yeah. That album almost killed me man, like well 304 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:45,160 Speaker 8: towards the end of it, where we were working in 305 00:16:45,600 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 8: four different studios at the same time, and I like 306 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:52,200 Speaker 8: all three rooms an electric lady, and I was stuck 307 00:16:52,280 --> 00:16:54,000 Speaker 8: in the studio without going to the hotel for a 308 00:16:54,000 --> 00:16:59,760 Speaker 8: few days, and I had a beard I'm a common 309 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:01,440 Speaker 8: come into this and I want to post a note 310 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:07,560 Speaker 8: like help. And then I had a stress attack and 311 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:09,760 Speaker 8: the top half of my body stopped working. I couldn't 312 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:11,479 Speaker 8: move my own Yeah, I had. 313 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:12,639 Speaker 1: It was that extreme. 314 00:17:12,760 --> 00:17:14,240 Speaker 8: I went to the hospital. I thought they thought I 315 00:17:14,280 --> 00:17:16,200 Speaker 8: had a stroke, but it was just a stress attacking. Wow, 316 00:17:17,040 --> 00:17:19,399 Speaker 8: it was I was dealing with I was dealing with Erica, 317 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:23,160 Speaker 8: and I was I was trying to insulate her from 318 00:17:23,240 --> 00:17:26,120 Speaker 8: the label they were, you know, doing it. I was, Yeah, 319 00:17:26,160 --> 00:17:27,600 Speaker 8: I was dealing with all of that, and it was 320 00:17:27,680 --> 00:17:30,119 Speaker 8: it was a lot. What was what were they pushing for? 321 00:17:30,680 --> 00:17:33,320 Speaker 8: Let's get this going now, we need this record now, 322 00:17:33,359 --> 00:17:35,480 Speaker 8: we need to get this record now. And Erica was 323 00:17:35,520 --> 00:17:38,600 Speaker 8: just like, I'm moving to my own speed, you know 324 00:17:38,640 --> 00:17:41,760 Speaker 8: what I mean. And Erica's funny, man, because I don't 325 00:17:41,800 --> 00:17:43,840 Speaker 8: know if y'all knowiced, Well should I say this, yes? 326 00:17:44,040 --> 00:17:44,240 Speaker 2: Yes? 327 00:17:44,760 --> 00:17:46,880 Speaker 1: If you look at the c D, oh the track 328 00:17:46,920 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 1: list is wrong? 329 00:17:47,520 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 8: No no, no, Not only that, yeah, that, but the color 330 00:17:50,960 --> 00:17:52,680 Speaker 8: if you look at the color on the outside and 331 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:55,560 Speaker 8: then look at the actual color of the CD, two 332 00:17:55,560 --> 00:17:58,679 Speaker 8: different reds. If you notice that. And that was just 333 00:17:58,720 --> 00:18:00,719 Speaker 8: her being like, ya, ain't tell me what to do. 334 00:18:02,920 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 1: That's wait, okay, sidetrack. 335 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:08,840 Speaker 4: When you buy the forty five of what's going on, 336 00:18:09,520 --> 00:18:13,040 Speaker 4: towards the last thirty seconds, there's this thing where you 337 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:19,159 Speaker 4: are the fake going on and literally Marvion, that was 338 00:18:19,200 --> 00:18:21,919 Speaker 4: Marvin Gaye's middle finger in the back, like, tell me 339 00:18:21,960 --> 00:18:22,680 Speaker 4: what to do? 340 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:24,960 Speaker 2: I want to do that right and wow. 341 00:18:25,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 7: So it doesn't give you warm and fuzzy feelings to 342 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:28,040 Speaker 7: talk about it? 343 00:18:28,080 --> 00:18:29,520 Speaker 6: Do I really want to ask you about green Eyes? 344 00:18:29,520 --> 00:18:33,119 Speaker 8: It's like, that was one of the greatest experiences I 345 00:18:33,240 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 8: had in this business. 346 00:18:34,280 --> 00:18:36,479 Speaker 6: Erica's no, I know that amazing. 347 00:18:37,800 --> 00:18:40,400 Speaker 8: She's called me. I'm a she's my studio wife. I'm 348 00:18:40,400 --> 00:18:42,320 Speaker 8: a studio husband. 349 00:18:42,359 --> 00:18:44,320 Speaker 6: So can you talk about green Eyes? I'm just my 350 00:18:44,320 --> 00:18:45,760 Speaker 6: mom's gonna come just because. 351 00:18:45,600 --> 00:18:47,440 Speaker 1: So green Eyes we wrote in Dallas. 352 00:18:47,520 --> 00:18:51,800 Speaker 8: She has this old beat up green upright piano that's 353 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:54,240 Speaker 8: out of tune AND's got paint on it and champbell 354 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:58,639 Speaker 8: wax everywhere and have the piano key sts and we 355 00:18:58,760 --> 00:19:02,680 Speaker 8: wrote the song there. You know, it went down there. 356 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:04,880 Speaker 7: And it just when did you decide to like, did 357 00:19:04,880 --> 00:19:06,680 Speaker 7: the song always have so many changes in it? Because 358 00:19:06,720 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 7: that to me great, That's why it stands out because 359 00:19:08,280 --> 00:19:09,800 Speaker 7: it's like it changes with her mind. 360 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:13,560 Speaker 8: That's her, that's she's she's super creative and wants to 361 00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:17,280 Speaker 8: you know, she you know, she'll do wherever. You know 362 00:19:17,600 --> 00:19:19,119 Speaker 8: you got to try and you don't want to. You 363 00:19:19,119 --> 00:19:20,960 Speaker 8: can't ring her in, but you just let her do 364 00:19:21,000 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 8: what she wants to do, and just trying to help 365 00:19:22,560 --> 00:19:23,959 Speaker 8: her get her ideas out. 366 00:19:24,160 --> 00:19:30,159 Speaker 1: And you know, I remember, was y'all forcing me? I was. 367 00:19:30,280 --> 00:19:33,520 Speaker 4: I was definitely the night of the ok Player, New 368 00:19:33,600 --> 00:19:36,040 Speaker 4: York Show. Were y'all on that tour with us? This 369 00:19:36,280 --> 00:19:39,679 Speaker 4: was old The cover of the Roots Come Alive is 370 00:19:39,760 --> 00:19:40,840 Speaker 4: that the night of. 371 00:19:41,000 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 2: I wasn't there that night. I didn't we ain't come 372 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 2: alongst like old. 373 00:19:43,280 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 4: Three ish stell okay, okay later yeah, yeah, Like all 374 00:19:47,119 --> 00:19:53,800 Speaker 4: I remember was that I was throat bleeding level of sickness. 375 00:19:53,480 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 8: And you were asleep on the dones well playing dog anything. 376 00:19:57,280 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 4: Clever, we're not only tracking in vidual songs like from 377 00:20:02,160 --> 00:20:06,720 Speaker 4: what I remember, Clever kissed me on my neck like 378 00:20:06,800 --> 00:20:09,199 Speaker 4: she wanted to do it as a sweet and I 379 00:20:09,240 --> 00:20:12,000 Speaker 4: was like, look, let's just cut one song. And then 380 00:20:12,240 --> 00:20:14,679 Speaker 4: you know when you go to master like a hatchet 381 00:20:14,760 --> 00:20:20,760 Speaker 4: and make it like no, she's right, Booty and the 382 00:20:20,800 --> 00:20:25,800 Speaker 4: three of them, and she came in gave me a 383 00:20:25,840 --> 00:20:29,159 Speaker 4: barth bucket. There's one point in at the very end 384 00:20:29,200 --> 00:20:31,080 Speaker 4: of Clever, I'm so mad you all to me, you know, 385 00:20:31,160 --> 00:20:35,520 Speaker 4: the anger that you feel on on wake Up when 386 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 4: we didn't put the delay or what's the last song. 387 00:20:40,359 --> 00:20:41,320 Speaker 1: Waiting for Superman? 388 00:20:41,560 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 4: That's all yes, and we didn't put the I'm so mad, 389 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 4: Like I was trying to sabotage Clever so that y'all 390 00:20:55,080 --> 00:20:57,040 Speaker 4: can say, look, just go home and come back again. 391 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: So this is a point where I started doing. 392 00:20:59,520 --> 00:21:03,199 Speaker 4: Like I was like, I'm drumming bass right now on 393 00:21:03,240 --> 00:21:06,439 Speaker 4: the rim Shot, and I was just trying to funk. 394 00:21:06,359 --> 00:21:08,000 Speaker 1: Up on purpose, and y'all kept all this. 395 00:21:10,320 --> 00:21:11,000 Speaker 5: That's what you get. 396 00:21:11,840 --> 00:21:12,040 Speaker 1: Man. 397 00:21:13,160 --> 00:21:14,640 Speaker 2: Did your production work as well? 398 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,800 Speaker 9: Man, My probably my favorite projectably both of y'all was 399 00:21:17,800 --> 00:21:20,480 Speaker 9: one of my favorite projects, the Algreen Laid Down album. 400 00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:21,640 Speaker 2: Man, I want to talk. 401 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,200 Speaker 9: I mean, I thought y'all just did just an incredible 402 00:21:24,280 --> 00:21:28,480 Speaker 9: job of, you know, being bringing like his original sound, 403 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:30,880 Speaker 9: like those all those things we loved about the old records. 404 00:21:31,160 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 2: But it didn't feel like just you know, cosplay. 405 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 9: It wasn't like, oh, let's just make it sound old 406 00:21:35,880 --> 00:21:39,080 Speaker 9: like they really sounded like they were great songs, and 407 00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 9: you know, and I. 408 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 2: Just I thought y'all did a great job of that. 409 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:42,720 Speaker 2: What was it like working? 410 00:21:42,840 --> 00:21:43,640 Speaker 1: It was a crazy thing. 411 00:21:43,680 --> 00:21:46,160 Speaker 8: We cut all them songs and what sweet Days? 412 00:21:46,400 --> 00:21:47,080 Speaker 2: Yeah? What? 413 00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:50,560 Speaker 8: Because he would just walk in and start singing whatever 414 00:21:50,600 --> 00:21:52,320 Speaker 8: came that was the song. He was like the kool 415 00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:53,320 Speaker 8: aid man like. 416 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:58,159 Speaker 4: Matter of fact, if I recall correctly, and I have 417 00:21:58,280 --> 00:22:01,960 Speaker 4: this on tape, I think we were just messing around 418 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:04,600 Speaker 4: with the idea of the title track, laid down, and 419 00:22:04,640 --> 00:22:06,679 Speaker 4: then he just walked in and started singing. 420 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:07,960 Speaker 1: Like we didn't meet him yet. 421 00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:12,960 Speaker 7: Yeah, we didn't need him yourror. 422 00:22:15,840 --> 00:22:18,119 Speaker 4: We didn't shake his hand or nothing. He just walked 423 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:22,000 Speaker 4: in and when we and when we heard his voice, 424 00:22:22,560 --> 00:22:24,560 Speaker 4: I think I was trying to text James like on 425 00:22:24,680 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 4: the thing you see me, like like what the fuck 426 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,720 Speaker 4: are right now? But he started singing, So I don't 427 00:22:31,720 --> 00:22:33,680 Speaker 4: want to be like, sir, this is really an honoritive 428 00:22:33,760 --> 00:22:39,400 Speaker 4: the Yeah, he just came in and started freestyling, and then. 429 00:22:39,840 --> 00:22:43,840 Speaker 8: And then walked off the room and saw Sky was 430 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:47,960 Speaker 8: like Spanky Chamers Alfred. 431 00:22:48,040 --> 00:22:53,359 Speaker 1: Yes, he knew Spanky. Everybody if we talk about songs. 432 00:22:53,359 --> 00:22:55,240 Speaker 7: Can I just throw out one real quick with the y'all, 433 00:22:55,320 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 7: I would like to throw out sometimes blow. I would 434 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,000 Speaker 7: like to talk about that song and how that came 435 00:23:01,040 --> 00:23:03,439 Speaker 7: together in such magnificence because it's one of my favorite 436 00:23:03,560 --> 00:23:05,000 Speaker 7: Mirror James collaborations. 437 00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,679 Speaker 4: You know, teasing, teasing common wait wait wait we we 438 00:23:09,800 --> 00:23:13,680 Speaker 4: kind of I know we wait wait wait, hang on, okay, 439 00:23:16,000 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 4: I literally just found a bunch of the Algreen kind 440 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:21,600 Speaker 4: of words. 441 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:26,639 Speaker 1: No, just on just the the demos and stuff. 442 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,119 Speaker 5: Wills Mirror is always like I just found that like 443 00:23:30,400 --> 00:23:32,239 Speaker 5: poof right, like. 444 00:23:32,800 --> 00:23:34,000 Speaker 1: So we tried this once. 445 00:23:34,200 --> 00:23:39,640 Speaker 4: Uh remember we tried to convince him to cover crazy 446 00:23:40,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 4: uh with Sharon Jones and we played him see Little 447 00:23:45,720 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 4: Green's version. He just felt like that sounds like there's 448 00:23:50,640 --> 00:23:54,760 Speaker 4: something about the cords that he's I don't like that. 449 00:23:54,760 --> 00:24:02,399 Speaker 1: That's that's the mind. But typically we would just play. 450 00:24:03,400 --> 00:24:03,960 Speaker 1: We were playing. 451 00:24:04,000 --> 00:24:06,680 Speaker 8: It was the one plan that I think we both 452 00:24:06,760 --> 00:24:11,080 Speaker 8: had was we gotta have and each song have a 453 00:24:11,119 --> 00:24:12,840 Speaker 8: break that somebody would want to sample. 454 00:24:13,000 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 5: Right exactly, good plan, Oh my god. 455 00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,520 Speaker 1: But literally we were just this is out. Every session 456 00:24:29,560 --> 00:24:30,800 Speaker 1: is with us. We'll just play. 457 00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: I didn't know that you're supposed to like pre write Elsewhere, demo. 458 00:24:36,720 --> 00:24:40,080 Speaker 5: Elsewhere, No wonder things go so quickly and then go 459 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 5: in the studio and do it like we just go 460 00:24:42,119 --> 00:24:42,920 Speaker 5: in the studio and write this. 461 00:24:48,600 --> 00:24:52,040 Speaker 4: I've told this story a few times, but common thought 462 00:24:52,160 --> 00:24:56,080 Speaker 4: that he was going well. He sprung on us that 463 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,119 Speaker 4: he was going to be an actor, and literally we 464 00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:01,120 Speaker 4: were like like behind the. 465 00:25:01,080 --> 00:25:01,520 Speaker 2: Back, like. 466 00:25:03,480 --> 00:25:06,200 Speaker 1: I've heard this, and so uh. 467 00:25:05,960 --> 00:25:09,640 Speaker 4: Yeah, he comes in all excited and it's like yeah, man, uh, 468 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:14,479 Speaker 4: I'm gonna do Carmen, Carmen Robert Townsend and Mike uh 469 00:25:14,640 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 4: what's his name that used to run the Source doing 470 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 4: a hip hopera thing, and he's like, yeah, old girl 471 00:25:19,320 --> 00:25:23,280 Speaker 4: from Destiny Shout, it's gonna be like old Girl gonna 472 00:25:23,280 --> 00:25:26,199 Speaker 4: be you know, leading lady and all that stuff. And 473 00:25:26,440 --> 00:25:28,439 Speaker 4: instantly I was like, yo, we're gonna duct her in 474 00:25:28,440 --> 00:25:29,280 Speaker 4: the soul queries. 475 00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:32,639 Speaker 2: Wow. 476 00:25:32,359 --> 00:25:38,040 Speaker 4: Wow, all of At this point, while his relationship flourished 477 00:25:38,119 --> 00:25:40,159 Speaker 4: with his work wife. 478 00:25:40,080 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Yes, mine was souring a little bit. I'm not on 479 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:44,080 Speaker 1: Worldwide Underground. 480 00:25:44,520 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 6: I didn't want to say yeah yeah, and so. 481 00:25:48,080 --> 00:25:51,160 Speaker 4: My thing was like okay, so I'm gonna bring more 482 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:52,400 Speaker 4: energy into the full. 483 00:25:52,840 --> 00:25:55,160 Speaker 1: This is the one time where I was actively. 484 00:25:54,760 --> 00:25:57,600 Speaker 4: Campaigning, like yo, we're gonna bring her into the and 485 00:25:57,640 --> 00:26:01,760 Speaker 4: we were this close, like we were we were close anyway, 486 00:26:01,960 --> 00:26:05,920 Speaker 4: so you know, he came in the audition all excieity. 487 00:26:05,920 --> 00:26:09,199 Speaker 4: He wore like a vest in his Jeff hat, like 488 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:11,959 Speaker 4: like he's going to the club, like his audition closed 489 00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:13,720 Speaker 4: and everything, and he. 490 00:26:13,680 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: Goes there and we're like, yo, you gotta do it, 491 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: you gotta do it. 492 00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 4: And he came back and I didn't get it, and 493 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:23,679 Speaker 4: we just got right and then he said it, and 494 00:26:23,720 --> 00:26:27,480 Speaker 4: then he said most got the role, and instantly a 495 00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:33,119 Speaker 4: four hour session ensues with us any given chance playing, 496 00:26:33,280 --> 00:26:36,800 Speaker 4: Umi says. And then James really brought up the temperature 497 00:26:36,800 --> 00:26:43,960 Speaker 4: where he started singing, and then after two hours of 498 00:26:44,000 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 4: doing that ship then Bloud just started singing to it. 499 00:26:46,960 --> 00:26:50,000 Speaker 8: I was like, okay, well it was like a joke, like. 500 00:26:50,000 --> 00:26:54,439 Speaker 4: Sometimes I wish I would have passed that audition, and 501 00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,199 Speaker 4: and then suddenly it was like whoa, this is something like. 502 00:27:01,000 --> 00:27:03,040 Speaker 1: Right, So that's how that got made. 503 00:27:03,640 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 4: And well Chicken Grease also, Chicken Grease was definitely a 504 00:27:08,640 --> 00:27:09,359 Speaker 4: common song. 505 00:27:09,520 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 8: It was a common song. It was studio see Electric Lady. 506 00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:14,679 Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, up. 507 00:27:16,280 --> 00:27:20,560 Speaker 4: All I remember was that D'Angelo was working on the 508 00:27:20,600 --> 00:27:26,239 Speaker 4: City okay, because CDs can only hold yeah, seventy two 509 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,080 Speaker 4: seventy well, seventy nine minutes for some plants, but d'angelo's 510 00:27:30,080 --> 00:27:34,719 Speaker 4: plant was seventy two, so he had to drop. The 511 00:27:34,760 --> 00:27:37,240 Speaker 4: second song off of Voodoo was a song called the City, 512 00:27:37,280 --> 00:27:41,520 Speaker 4: which was really like a Roy Hargrove tutorial of just 513 00:27:41,560 --> 00:27:47,040 Speaker 4: like amazingness. And I remember de was working on the 514 00:27:47,040 --> 00:27:52,920 Speaker 4: City downstairs, and we were working on chicken grease upstairs, 515 00:27:52,920 --> 00:27:56,520 Speaker 4: thinking it was common shit, And I remember D'Angelo walked 516 00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:59,040 Speaker 4: in and he kind of looked at. 517 00:27:58,880 --> 00:28:02,639 Speaker 1: Me and James like, now, y'all know, like but it 518 00:28:02,720 --> 00:28:05,200 Speaker 1: was the thing, you know. Com was all geeked like, yeah, man, 519 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:05,680 Speaker 1: I got it. 520 00:28:06,160 --> 00:28:08,639 Speaker 4: And then when I went to the bathroom, you know, 521 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:12,359 Speaker 4: like Tupac was waiting for Omar Epps around the locker 522 00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:13,439 Speaker 4: and Juice. 523 00:28:16,359 --> 00:28:21,880 Speaker 1: I got out of the bathroom and he says, yo, man, bro, 524 00:28:22,880 --> 00:28:26,399 Speaker 1: you know good and well, that boy don't know what 525 00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:32,040 Speaker 1: to do with that funk. He's gonna waste that song. 526 00:28:32,800 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: I was like, what did you say? He said, I 527 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,840 Speaker 1: gotta have that song. That's my song. 528 00:28:37,600 --> 00:28:40,760 Speaker 4: Y'all, y'all, y'all doing me without me in there, and 529 00:28:40,800 --> 00:28:43,040 Speaker 4: I was like, come on, man, like, just let him 530 00:28:43,040 --> 00:28:46,040 Speaker 4: have it. O man, that's my funk, Like, don't give 531 00:28:46,120 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 4: him my funk. And then I was like trade off. 532 00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:54,280 Speaker 4: So it just so happens that two days ago before then, 533 00:28:54,560 --> 00:28:58,880 Speaker 4: we were trying to find a song for Miss Hill to. 534 00:28:58,840 --> 00:29:02,040 Speaker 1: Come and do with it. Like it was. It was 535 00:29:02,080 --> 00:29:06,680 Speaker 1: like any day now she'll come off the road. No, 536 00:29:06,920 --> 00:29:14,400 Speaker 1: they had they had they had a quick pro crow arrangement. 537 00:29:14,880 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: He was gonna do nothing either. 538 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,720 Speaker 6: I remember the story in the time she was gonna do. 539 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,360 Speaker 1: Well. I mean eventually that there was a Diller song, 540 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:27,320 Speaker 1: didn't do it, she didn't show up it, and then 541 00:29:27,560 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: what we know is Ghetto Heaven. 542 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:31,040 Speaker 6: I remember that. 543 00:29:31,320 --> 00:29:33,600 Speaker 4: We just did that that day and I said, look, 544 00:29:33,920 --> 00:29:36,800 Speaker 4: you don't want the Ghetto Heaven's at the times the 545 00:29:36,800 --> 00:29:40,880 Speaker 4: Gang Star song, and so I had the broker the trade. 546 00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: Between Common and D'Angelo to take each other's song. 547 00:29:43,040 --> 00:29:47,440 Speaker 9: So yeah, you talk about Common, man, uh, Electric Circus, 548 00:29:47,680 --> 00:29:50,400 Speaker 9: I want you to talk about new wave because I 549 00:29:50,920 --> 00:29:54,720 Speaker 9: swore that was a stereo lab like I thought they 550 00:29:55,200 --> 00:29:55,360 Speaker 9: you know. 551 00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:55,800 Speaker 2: What I'm saying. 552 00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,560 Speaker 9: I got the credits, so I thought it was just 553 00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 9: so dope. How you captured their sound? I mean you 554 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,880 Speaker 9: like it sounded like a stereo lab joint, but you 555 00:30:03,920 --> 00:30:04,760 Speaker 9: captured it perfectly. 556 00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:07,640 Speaker 4: Man, Well that's a mirror. Oh okay, that was no 557 00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,120 Speaker 4: I played it, but we had the part that Common 558 00:30:11,200 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 4: was rapping over. That was the whole song, and we're like, yeah, 559 00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 4: we're gonna send this the stereo lab and then you 560 00:30:18,040 --> 00:30:20,680 Speaker 4: came in the studio was like, no, man, it needs 561 00:30:20,720 --> 00:30:24,160 Speaker 4: a different hook. Yeah, they got it, like knowing I 562 00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:27,320 Speaker 4: was always listening to dots and loops, and then I 563 00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,520 Speaker 4: put Dyla onto it, and so basically I just went 564 00:30:30,600 --> 00:30:32,320 Speaker 4: and brought all their CDs and like, this is the 565 00:30:32,400 --> 00:30:34,800 Speaker 4: kind of happy ship they sing to. So you guys 566 00:30:34,840 --> 00:30:39,240 Speaker 4: gotta find a way to amalgamate that into the song socause. 567 00:30:39,560 --> 00:30:42,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, because Dylan and him did that track together. 568 00:30:43,280 --> 00:30:44,680 Speaker 8: And he walked in, so let me think to change 569 00:30:44,680 --> 00:30:46,800 Speaker 8: your hook and then and then we just created that. 570 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:52,080 Speaker 8: But if you can go back to Chicken grease. So 571 00:30:52,760 --> 00:30:57,760 Speaker 8: I think we left the studio around five am. I 572 00:30:57,840 --> 00:31:00,520 Speaker 8: left because I was when them two get together, Man, 573 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:03,080 Speaker 8: they start talking about and they start geeking out about music. 574 00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:06,480 Speaker 5: It's like I love music, but it's like lost Supreme 575 00:31:06,520 --> 00:31:08,800 Speaker 5: episode without I feel like I know this feeling. 576 00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 8: You love music, but I love music, but I don't 577 00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:14,320 Speaker 8: love it like y'all love it. 578 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:17,600 Speaker 4: So I was like, I'm taking a cab to the hotel. 579 00:31:17,880 --> 00:31:20,680 Speaker 4: So I get in the cab, I have to walk 580 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:23,560 Speaker 4: out the eighth Street at five in the morning. Finally 581 00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:25,160 Speaker 4: got a cab and I get out in the hotel 582 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,640 Speaker 4: and these range over pulls up with him in the 583 00:31:28,640 --> 00:31:29,720 Speaker 4: mirror and and they're like yo. 584 00:31:30,640 --> 00:31:33,600 Speaker 8: I was like, what cause I'm dead tired. They getting 585 00:31:33,680 --> 00:31:37,520 Speaker 8: back seat and I was held hostage in that back 586 00:31:37,520 --> 00:31:40,520 Speaker 8: seat for like another two hours while they listened to 587 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:41,320 Speaker 8: that song. 588 00:31:41,240 --> 00:31:48,000 Speaker 1: Over over over which one chicken grease. Yes, yes, this 589 00:31:48,040 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: is vocals on it, This is no, this is just 590 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 1: the just the track. 591 00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:55,200 Speaker 8: You know. 592 00:31:55,240 --> 00:31:57,440 Speaker 1: Them two get together and I'm on the. 593 00:31:57,360 --> 00:31:59,960 Speaker 8: Tour bus and voodoo. Them two will be at the front, 594 00:32:00,120 --> 00:32:03,200 Speaker 8: like watching James Brownie. Look he moved his left knuckle 595 00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:08,480 Speaker 8: and the band and the band went to gh and 596 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,680 Speaker 8: I'll be like, I'm going to the I'm going to the. 597 00:32:13,960 --> 00:32:16,200 Speaker 4: Here's the thing though, I don't know if you remember this, man, 598 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:19,800 Speaker 4: but speaking of new wave, you know that was the 599 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:25,280 Speaker 4: last thing that Mary sang one. Really she the bike accident, 600 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,000 Speaker 4: she did her vocals, She went to the studio to 601 00:32:29,080 --> 00:32:32,200 Speaker 4: do her vocals on that bike ride home. 602 00:32:32,760 --> 00:32:34,120 Speaker 8: Oh, I didn't know what. 603 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:35,480 Speaker 6: Is talking about. 604 00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:39,880 Speaker 9: This is Mary Mary Han, Mary Hanson of stere to 605 00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:44,080 Speaker 9: Vote Mary Hanson. Yeah and yeah, Mary, she died in 606 00:32:44,080 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 9: the biking accident. I didn't know that was her last record. 607 00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:49,840 Speaker 9: That was one of her last records. 608 00:32:50,040 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 4: It wasn't after she did it was it was something 609 00:32:53,080 --> 00:32:57,120 Speaker 4: related either like Dubley had to communicate with like either 610 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:59,760 Speaker 4: her check or something like that. But all I remember 611 00:32:59,880 --> 00:33:03,520 Speaker 4: was that like Doubly had dealt with her hours before 612 00:33:03,760 --> 00:33:05,880 Speaker 4: and then as soon as we got to the studio. 613 00:33:06,680 --> 00:33:10,440 Speaker 1: It was like she passed away. I have a question, 614 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:11,560 Speaker 1: shut up stage. 615 00:33:11,720 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 5: I know, I feel like we haven't done that much. 616 00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:16,360 Speaker 3: Yeah, it was time for one. We've heard a lot 617 00:33:16,360 --> 00:33:19,600 Speaker 3: of about Amir's relationship with Dyla. What was your like 618 00:33:19,640 --> 00:33:23,400 Speaker 3: when did you meet him? And this was, uh like 619 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:25,000 Speaker 3: water for chocolate, you know. 620 00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 8: Com was like, yo, man, we gonna go to Detroit 621 00:33:27,480 --> 00:33:30,920 Speaker 8: and uh, I'm working with Dylan and I've never met Dyla, 622 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:35,360 Speaker 8: never seen him. And of course I love the music, 623 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,200 Speaker 8: but in my mind, I'm like Dyla was six eight 624 00:33:39,960 --> 00:33:41,920 Speaker 8: three hundred pounds. 625 00:33:42,800 --> 00:33:46,200 Speaker 1: I remember. I remember going to the private and they 626 00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:47,960 Speaker 1: opened the door and I'm looking up like. 627 00:33:49,600 --> 00:33:53,080 Speaker 5: Oh that's true. 628 00:33:53,120 --> 00:33:53,720 Speaker 8: What's up man? 629 00:33:55,040 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: Yep yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. 630 00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:03,040 Speaker 8: So that same that day we wonte Literally the same 631 00:34:03,040 --> 00:34:07,520 Speaker 8: thing happened, just instantly. Questions and I forget what else but. 632 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:12,759 Speaker 9: Questions, Yeah, cold blood. 633 00:34:12,640 --> 00:34:19,600 Speaker 1: Question uh no doing it yeah not We're doing it funky. 634 00:34:19,320 --> 00:34:25,239 Speaker 8: For you, all right? So I mean I was just 635 00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:30,279 Speaker 8: a fan again, the not only his approach to drums, 636 00:34:30,840 --> 00:34:33,440 Speaker 8: but what I loved about him being a piano player, 637 00:34:33,600 --> 00:34:39,080 Speaker 8: his approach, the way he would put samples together. Changes, Yeah, 638 00:34:39,120 --> 00:34:43,360 Speaker 8: the changes. It was almost like he instead of twelve 639 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,240 Speaker 8: notes and it was like there was like eighteen notes 640 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,439 Speaker 8: in it. Because just the way that things would mesh 641 00:34:48,520 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 8: that you wouldn't imagine. And you can try and play 642 00:34:51,640 --> 00:34:58,719 Speaker 8: the stuff, but your fingers can't really do its, you know. 643 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:01,239 Speaker 8: So I love that about him, and you know that 644 00:35:01,320 --> 00:35:02,120 Speaker 8: was that was my guy. 645 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,879 Speaker 1: When the Anthenyum was a five star hotel, oh. 646 00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:08,680 Speaker 8: I stayed the Infinium Hotel all the time. 647 00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,360 Speaker 1: Infinium now is like a one and a half star hotel. 648 00:35:13,680 --> 00:35:17,719 Speaker 7: Can I ask y'all to a question sol aquarians how 649 00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:20,120 Speaker 7: I don't even know where to start, but I kind 650 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,359 Speaker 7: of want to say, in twenty twenty twenty four, how 651 00:35:22,360 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 7: do y'all see the sol aquarians? 652 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:25,759 Speaker 6: And what do you in retrospect? 653 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:28,200 Speaker 1: Like, Man, it's weird, all right. 654 00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:33,400 Speaker 4: So Roch called me yesterday, Roch Common and he's been 655 00:35:33,400 --> 00:35:37,440 Speaker 4: getting poached by you know, Hollywood connection on that stuff. 656 00:35:37,480 --> 00:35:44,560 Speaker 4: And you know, the idea of it is nice. But 657 00:35:45,360 --> 00:35:50,239 Speaker 4: I'm really at a place now where I want a 658 00:35:50,360 --> 00:35:52,800 Speaker 4: stress free existence. 659 00:35:53,760 --> 00:35:54,360 Speaker 5: In some friends. 660 00:35:54,360 --> 00:35:56,759 Speaker 6: But y'all are older people. Okay, I got you. 661 00:35:57,200 --> 00:36:00,239 Speaker 3: Yeah, But it's just like, you know, maybe just do 662 00:36:00,280 --> 00:36:02,520 Speaker 3: an updated photo shoot and be dumba there we go. 663 00:36:03,800 --> 00:36:06,960 Speaker 1: But even that would take twelve years. That would take 664 00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:07,880 Speaker 1: twelve years. 665 00:36:08,200 --> 00:36:10,440 Speaker 4: I mean, I'm not trying to be like overly dramatical, 666 00:36:10,480 --> 00:36:12,400 Speaker 4: like talk a bunch of shit and then cut to 667 00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:15,200 Speaker 4: all right, guys, let's organize and do it together. 668 00:36:16,480 --> 00:36:20,680 Speaker 1: But it's just like I, for one, similar to you. 669 00:36:21,360 --> 00:36:28,719 Speaker 4: I'll say that I've had four secret hospital trips in 670 00:36:28,800 --> 00:36:32,080 Speaker 4: the last twenty years. Four of them were always sold 671 00:36:32,160 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 4: queer and related just the stress the stress of you know, 672 00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:41,680 Speaker 4: and I can't. 673 00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:43,320 Speaker 6: Do that anymore. 674 00:36:44,120 --> 00:36:48,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, but no, no, no, not to this level. So I mean, yeah, 675 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:50,960 Speaker 4: I love the history of it. And plus it's also 676 00:36:51,080 --> 00:36:55,200 Speaker 4: like I went through so much drama after that photo 677 00:36:55,320 --> 00:36:58,839 Speaker 4: was taken, where really the story was like. 678 00:36:58,920 --> 00:37:00,000 Speaker 6: Look left out. 679 00:37:00,000 --> 00:37:02,520 Speaker 4: I remember that yet not left out, but it was 680 00:37:02,640 --> 00:37:06,319 Speaker 4: just like the territorial pissing part of it. You know, 681 00:37:06,560 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 4: that story should have been in a mere story. But 682 00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:11,839 Speaker 4: because I was in a place where I didn't want 683 00:37:11,840 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 4: to own or whatever, the whole anti Flower ship, I 684 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:18,600 Speaker 4: was like, put everybody in it because it's all it's 685 00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,200 Speaker 4: like all of ours and yeah, it's just. 686 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 6: What's the James translation? 687 00:37:25,880 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 4: What was your James had a nice coat? I was like, wait, 688 00:37:33,239 --> 00:37:37,439 Speaker 4: why am I the dn't asked Marie Malone's T shirt Erica, 689 00:37:37,560 --> 00:37:39,040 Speaker 4: Like I got you this shirt, but. 690 00:37:39,040 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: James got a hair coat, Like. 691 00:37:43,440 --> 00:37:46,560 Speaker 8: Hey. That whole experience to me was was funny because 692 00:37:46,640 --> 00:37:49,480 Speaker 8: I always I was looking at like I am I 693 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:52,239 Speaker 8: am very happy to be here, you know what I mean. 694 00:37:53,160 --> 00:37:58,960 Speaker 8: It's just me, Like it was like just everybody around, 695 00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:04,359 Speaker 8: even the musical side of it. Before this, I was like, 696 00:38:04,960 --> 00:38:08,120 Speaker 8: you gotta understand what what I've said a lot of 697 00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,560 Speaker 8: the stuff was created instantly, So to me it was like, 698 00:38:11,640 --> 00:38:14,719 Speaker 8: oh man, I'm just playing and it's people like it. 699 00:38:15,520 --> 00:38:17,239 Speaker 8: So it was. It was everything was a bit of 700 00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:20,000 Speaker 8: a surprise to me at that time, like I'm just here, 701 00:38:20,200 --> 00:38:22,920 Speaker 8: you know, everything was. I was right out and bushytailed 702 00:38:22,920 --> 00:38:23,480 Speaker 8: and everything. 703 00:38:24,200 --> 00:38:29,399 Speaker 4: So mind beautiful when it works, it's beautiful, but it's 704 00:38:29,440 --> 00:38:29,839 Speaker 4: just lead. 705 00:38:31,160 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 6: But it's still working a little bit. For James and 706 00:38:32,680 --> 00:38:36,120 Speaker 6: way like you, y'all, love of my life was postal. 707 00:38:36,239 --> 00:38:38,840 Speaker 8: I'm just talking about all that, like the drama and stuff. 708 00:38:38,880 --> 00:38:41,400 Speaker 8: I wasn't really that's what I'm I saw it was 709 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:43,799 Speaker 8: affecting him, but I was like, I am just here. 710 00:38:43,840 --> 00:38:44,799 Speaker 2: I'm just a piano man. 711 00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:46,879 Speaker 1: You look like, oh, I'm just the money you meant 712 00:38:46,880 --> 00:38:51,000 Speaker 1: in the bus. And to be honest with you, like 713 00:38:51,120 --> 00:38:53,080 Speaker 1: we've never broken up. 714 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:55,600 Speaker 4: I mean at the moment that the wants to go 715 00:38:55,640 --> 00:38:58,520 Speaker 4: in the studio, chances are he's gonna hit me up 716 00:38:58,640 --> 00:39:02,360 Speaker 4: or something like that. And ship we just started working 717 00:39:02,400 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 4: on even though the small steps. 718 00:39:05,320 --> 00:39:08,320 Speaker 1: Actually none of those Pete. 719 00:39:08,360 --> 00:39:09,720 Speaker 8: Uh, I'm sorry. 720 00:39:10,200 --> 00:39:13,040 Speaker 6: Oh, I mean he's edited himsel because he said something shouldn't. 721 00:39:12,680 --> 00:39:13,239 Speaker 1: Go ahead it right? 722 00:39:13,280 --> 00:39:15,239 Speaker 4: No, no, no, no, I was gonna say Oh, by the way, 723 00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,120 Speaker 4: none of our interludes made it because. 724 00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:20,439 Speaker 1: It is my record. Yeah. 725 00:39:20,760 --> 00:39:27,640 Speaker 5: So, James, you look like the soul Quarian's pimp. It's 726 00:39:27,680 --> 00:39:29,920 Speaker 5: like it's like they're all dressed for something cool. He's like, 727 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:31,440 Speaker 5: better pay me, bitch. 728 00:39:33,560 --> 00:39:37,200 Speaker 6: He looks expensive. 729 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 7: I'm just ask the question as safe and as possible, James, 730 00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:46,439 Speaker 7: what was the biggest lesson you learned, especially coming from 731 00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:52,280 Speaker 7: a finance background and your experience working on the album 732 00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:56,360 Speaker 7: that should not be named Ah because you touched it? 733 00:39:57,280 --> 00:39:59,120 Speaker 2: What is the album that should not be named. 734 00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,239 Speaker 1: Oh, got you Miss Lady? 735 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:07,680 Speaker 7: The mis education of Lauren Hill Jack education. 736 00:40:08,239 --> 00:40:11,479 Speaker 1: I mean, the finance thing is if you're gonna look. 737 00:40:11,360 --> 00:40:13,640 Speaker 6: At it from that, keeping it safe, so but you 738 00:40:13,640 --> 00:40:13,920 Speaker 6: can go. 739 00:40:14,320 --> 00:40:15,920 Speaker 8: I'm just saying, if you're looking from that point of view, 740 00:40:15,920 --> 00:40:17,920 Speaker 8: it's like, be careful what you're invest in. 741 00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,000 Speaker 6: Okay, Okay, you know what I mean. 742 00:40:21,360 --> 00:40:24,640 Speaker 8: Some things that you think you're investing in, the returns 743 00:40:25,160 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 8: don't come back the way they're supposed to come back. 744 00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:33,120 Speaker 5: If you want to talk, Yeah, that ambiguous and fantastic going. 745 00:40:33,920 --> 00:40:38,960 Speaker 8: I'll say the really so it started with uh one 746 00:40:39,040 --> 00:40:40,799 Speaker 8: day will all make sense for common. 747 00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,520 Speaker 1: You know what I asked doing those those Common sessions. 748 00:40:47,040 --> 00:40:50,759 Speaker 4: I was like, dog, do you not realize like back 749 00:40:50,800 --> 00:40:52,759 Speaker 4: then we heard that ship and I was like, oh man, 750 00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,680 Speaker 4: it was like a Calvin got a job moment. I said, 751 00:40:55,719 --> 00:40:58,479 Speaker 4: but you do realize that that's one of the most 752 00:40:58,520 --> 00:41:02,919 Speaker 4: tune death Like, yeah, it really doesn't have Every time 753 00:41:02,920 --> 00:41:06,000 Speaker 4: it started playing, we thought we thought it was like. 754 00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:07,520 Speaker 6: Two hundred and fifty dollars work. 755 00:41:10,880 --> 00:41:13,200 Speaker 1: Yeah, but yeah, we laughed and he's like, yeah, I 756 00:41:13,280 --> 00:41:16,360 Speaker 1: realized I was going it started. 757 00:41:16,560 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 8: So with that song, you know, Common was in the 758 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:21,480 Speaker 8: in the session in New York with No ID and 759 00:41:21,480 --> 00:41:22,959 Speaker 8: they were like, yo, when I'm working on a song 760 00:41:23,000 --> 00:41:26,040 Speaker 8: with Lauren Hill, but the vibe ain't right, can you 761 00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:29,719 Speaker 8: come up? So I took the train up sort of 762 00:41:29,719 --> 00:41:32,360 Speaker 8: reworked the song with him, and it came out great, 763 00:41:32,360 --> 00:41:34,879 Speaker 8: and Long was excited. Yeah. So I get a call 764 00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:36,880 Speaker 8: a couple months later and Long was like, can you 765 00:41:36,920 --> 00:41:40,000 Speaker 8: come up to Jersey? So I go up to Jersey 766 00:41:40,000 --> 00:41:42,920 Speaker 8: to our house and I met We'll never forget this conversation. 767 00:41:42,960 --> 00:41:45,279 Speaker 8: Sitting there, she's eating breakfast. Yeah, I want you to 768 00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,520 Speaker 8: come in and help me work on this album. Play 769 00:41:47,560 --> 00:41:52,000 Speaker 8: some stuff, write some stuff, produce, some stuff on the album. 770 00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,800 Speaker 6: Those three things play right produce so. 771 00:41:53,719 --> 00:41:58,960 Speaker 8: Cool chicks, so you know, and we developed a relationship. 772 00:41:59,160 --> 00:41:59,400 Speaker 1: You know. 773 00:41:59,520 --> 00:42:02,160 Speaker 8: It was like yo, ell el boogie, you know, learn 774 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:04,840 Speaker 8: what up. I'll go up there. I would Spade stay 775 00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:09,360 Speaker 8: days at the house I was. This was when I 776 00:42:09,400 --> 00:42:11,600 Speaker 8: was staying in Sion's bedroom the baby at the time, 777 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:15,080 Speaker 8: you know, working in the studio. She she already had 778 00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:17,760 Speaker 8: a crew of guys that she's working with, the Newark guys, 779 00:42:17,840 --> 00:42:21,200 Speaker 8: Vader and them, and also my brother Chay Pope was 780 00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:24,319 Speaker 8: working on some stuff also, So me and Chay, who's 781 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:29,000 Speaker 8: still like he just text me, you know, we're still together. 782 00:42:29,040 --> 00:42:32,840 Speaker 8: But we were working on things for I was playing 783 00:42:32,880 --> 00:42:35,640 Speaker 8: on some things. It was just a lot of moving 784 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:38,400 Speaker 8: parts and a lot of stuff happening, even though some 785 00:42:38,440 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 8: of the other projects she was working on, like Aretha 786 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,960 Speaker 8: Franklin Rose, you know, I remember her calling me. I 787 00:42:44,000 --> 00:42:45,359 Speaker 8: think it was like because it's you too. 788 00:42:45,760 --> 00:42:46,000 Speaker 1: Yeah. 789 00:42:46,320 --> 00:42:48,440 Speaker 8: I was in my studio in Philly and I think 790 00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:49,880 Speaker 8: it was eight o'clock at night, Can you come to 791 00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:51,560 Speaker 8: New York? So I jumped to my car, drove out there, 792 00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 8: played on the Rose and still the Rose, you know, 793 00:42:54,040 --> 00:42:57,160 Speaker 8: crashed at the crib crib whatnot. So those kind of 794 00:42:57,160 --> 00:43:00,600 Speaker 8: things was happening at all times. So was the end 795 00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,120 Speaker 8: of when the albums being wrapped up. That's when things changed. 796 00:43:05,920 --> 00:43:07,919 Speaker 8: That's when I couldn't get along on the phone without 797 00:43:07,920 --> 00:43:10,399 Speaker 8: the manager being on the phone. And it was like, oh, yeah, 798 00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 8: you you did agree to that work for hire thing. 799 00:43:13,680 --> 00:43:16,680 Speaker 8: I was like, what what youre talking about? Willis? 800 00:43:16,680 --> 00:43:16,840 Speaker 2: You know? 801 00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:19,600 Speaker 1: Long story shirt? 802 00:43:19,719 --> 00:43:24,040 Speaker 8: I uh, you know, I did follow a lawsuit, but 803 00:43:24,080 --> 00:43:26,440 Speaker 8: then I dropped the lawsuit because I just I was 804 00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,120 Speaker 8: at the time, I wasn't strong enough to deal with 805 00:43:28,160 --> 00:43:30,080 Speaker 8: it because it was a lot of stress. You know, 806 00:43:30,200 --> 00:43:34,600 Speaker 8: it was a lot of and you know, I chalked 807 00:43:34,600 --> 00:43:36,280 Speaker 8: it up to a loss and a learned experience. 808 00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:38,920 Speaker 7: And while the urban legend goes that James Foult, he 809 00:43:38,960 --> 00:43:40,239 Speaker 7: did and he won. He got a lot of money. 810 00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:41,279 Speaker 7: I just need you to know that that was the 811 00:43:41,360 --> 00:43:41,839 Speaker 7: urban legend. 812 00:43:41,880 --> 00:43:44,400 Speaker 1: No, no, he was. He was part of the He 813 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: was the. 814 00:43:44,680 --> 00:43:47,760 Speaker 7: One that start, the first one that started the legitious situation, 815 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:49,879 Speaker 7: and so nobody did anybody ever. 816 00:43:52,080 --> 00:43:55,000 Speaker 8: Yeah, it took him a while a few years, right, yeah, 817 00:43:55,120 --> 00:43:56,880 Speaker 8: But I was like, I'm just washing my hands of 818 00:43:56,960 --> 00:43:59,279 Speaker 8: it and move on. I've been cool ever since you know, 819 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:03,800 Speaker 8: I'm good. So, yeah, it happened, you know, learning experience. 820 00:44:06,160 --> 00:44:09,040 Speaker 4: Do you feel in general, because I hear a lot 821 00:44:09,160 --> 00:44:13,400 Speaker 4: that like everyone's writes a passage or trial by fire 822 00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:17,759 Speaker 4: thing is like the getting gang story. Yeah that it 823 00:44:17,840 --> 00:44:21,680 Speaker 4: is absolutely, absolutely it is. Well someone's gonna get jerked. 824 00:44:22,320 --> 00:44:24,680 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, So what is the thing that you now 825 00:44:24,719 --> 00:44:26,680 Speaker 7: do different you had started doing different from that moment, 826 00:44:26,719 --> 00:44:28,440 Speaker 7: Like even is it a paperwork thing, is it a 827 00:44:28,480 --> 00:44:30,399 Speaker 7: conversation that you now have before or. 828 00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,040 Speaker 5: A lawyer or if it's a lawyer. 829 00:44:33,520 --> 00:44:36,480 Speaker 8: Here's the thing, though, everything that I did in that 830 00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:40,680 Speaker 8: situation is what I've done with other artists and have 831 00:44:40,760 --> 00:44:42,399 Speaker 8: continued to do, and it's all been cool. 832 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,480 Speaker 1: It was just that it was just that kind. 833 00:44:45,360 --> 00:44:48,239 Speaker 4: Of thing, not not that my two senses needed in 834 00:44:48,280 --> 00:44:51,000 Speaker 4: this matter. But I think a lot of the unspoken 835 00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:55,840 Speaker 4: elephant in Room of it All is that perhaps maybe 836 00:44:55,880 --> 00:44:59,160 Speaker 4: she was under the impression of you know, this whole 837 00:44:59,200 --> 00:45:02,280 Speaker 4: like the Stevie the Prince written and produced the arrange 838 00:45:02,280 --> 00:45:03,680 Speaker 4: and da da da da dad like that. 839 00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:05,840 Speaker 1: But I don't know any. 840 00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,319 Speaker 4: Situation that doesn't require a village, Like even all the 841 00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,920 Speaker 4: Prince's stuff was you know, here revolution members now saying 842 00:45:14,320 --> 00:45:19,160 Speaker 4: I wrote that baseline and that sort of thing, you know. 843 00:45:19,520 --> 00:45:23,480 Speaker 4: I wish that she knew that, because I often wonder 844 00:45:23,520 --> 00:45:28,880 Speaker 4: if she's punishing herself by stalling. 845 00:45:30,440 --> 00:45:31,480 Speaker 1: As a means to. 846 00:45:33,160 --> 00:45:35,799 Speaker 4: If it was humiliating to get caught out there with 847 00:45:35,800 --> 00:45:39,160 Speaker 4: the hand and her cookie jar, Like does she think, like, see, 848 00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:41,640 Speaker 4: we told you she wasn't no real producer, da da da. 849 00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 4: She had people to do it for, but it's like 850 00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:48,160 Speaker 4: dude like productions literally giving your two cents to what 851 00:45:48,239 --> 00:45:52,600 Speaker 4: you think the musicians should do, and the you know, 852 00:45:52,680 --> 00:45:55,319 Speaker 4: that sort of thing. But I don't know, I feel 853 00:45:55,400 --> 00:45:58,640 Speaker 4: like if she has a better relationship that like, I'm 854 00:45:58,640 --> 00:46:00,480 Speaker 4: not judging her because of that. 855 00:46:00,520 --> 00:46:04,440 Speaker 1: It's like surprise, everyone works on everyone's records, and. 856 00:46:04,400 --> 00:46:06,840 Speaker 9: That doesn't take away from my enjoyment of those records 857 00:46:07,000 --> 00:46:08,919 Speaker 9: by knowing, you know what I'm saying. 858 00:46:09,200 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 2: If it's dope, it's dope. 859 00:46:10,280 --> 00:46:11,759 Speaker 1: But almost feel as though, like. 860 00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:17,880 Speaker 4: The the insular side of her story starts with you know, 861 00:46:18,000 --> 00:46:20,960 Speaker 4: the revolution, you know, because the way that she initially 862 00:46:21,000 --> 00:46:24,680 Speaker 4: I guess she initially won the case, and then and 863 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:30,080 Speaker 4: then the last minute, eleventh hour videotape revelation of the. 864 00:46:30,000 --> 00:46:32,440 Speaker 6: Proof that they were doing other people were right. 865 00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:35,279 Speaker 4: That came into play and then it's you know, and 866 00:46:35,320 --> 00:46:38,120 Speaker 4: I almost felt like, wow, she probably feels like we're 867 00:46:38,200 --> 00:46:39,320 Speaker 4: judging it and all that stuff. 868 00:46:39,320 --> 00:46:43,759 Speaker 3: But no, didn't Michael Jackson scrubs someone's name off off 869 00:46:43,760 --> 00:46:44,959 Speaker 3: the credits or something like that. 870 00:46:44,960 --> 00:46:45,040 Speaker 4: Or. 871 00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,960 Speaker 9: Great feeling games writing the bridge on everybody. 872 00:46:54,120 --> 00:46:54,919 Speaker 1: It's listen. 873 00:46:55,000 --> 00:46:57,879 Speaker 8: It's like, you know, I didn't write one hundred percent 874 00:46:57,920 --> 00:46:59,719 Speaker 8: of the song. I will be the first submitted. She 875 00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:04,800 Speaker 8: absolutely it is supremely talented. But you know, my little 876 00:47:05,440 --> 00:47:07,680 Speaker 8: played a small part. Just give me that credit. The 877 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:08,279 Speaker 8: small part. 878 00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:12,080 Speaker 1: I get it. 879 00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:18,760 Speaker 4: Damn this is I feel like this is a special 880 00:47:18,760 --> 00:47:23,440 Speaker 4: episode of good Times when nig Mamas just passed and whatnot. 881 00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,440 Speaker 6: Just happy. James felt comfortable having that conversation. 882 00:47:25,480 --> 00:47:27,440 Speaker 4: So this is what I always want to know, because 883 00:47:27,680 --> 00:47:31,240 Speaker 4: you know, you could tell the fiber of America based 884 00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:36,840 Speaker 4: on interactions and airports and yeah, to this day, that's. 885 00:47:36,719 --> 00:47:39,880 Speaker 5: Not what I thought you were gonna say. 886 00:47:39,320 --> 00:47:42,120 Speaker 1: I don't know, but not that I agreed, like I 887 00:47:42,200 --> 00:47:46,080 Speaker 1: know what you're talking about. No, I'm just saying. 888 00:47:46,120 --> 00:47:49,439 Speaker 4: Man Yay once famously said that you know, he'll sit 889 00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:53,400 Speaker 4: in airports like when he designs an easy sneaker. He 890 00:47:53,920 --> 00:47:57,560 Speaker 4: hints the not like the whatever the medicine shoes or 891 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:01,080 Speaker 4: the geriatric shoes or whatever they call it. But you know, 892 00:48:01,800 --> 00:48:04,279 Speaker 4: everyone always comes up to me and says, hey, I 893 00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:07,560 Speaker 4: love your CNN special on racism and all that stuff. 894 00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: But I know post thank you notes. 895 00:48:15,160 --> 00:48:17,399 Speaker 4: I know that post thank you notes, your life might 896 00:48:17,480 --> 00:48:20,200 Speaker 4: have to be somewhat hellish of people. 897 00:48:20,760 --> 00:48:28,600 Speaker 2: Nelson George, shut up. I never seen Nelson George and 898 00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:29,440 Speaker 2: James poising. 899 00:48:29,200 --> 00:48:29,719 Speaker 1: The same room. 900 00:48:31,800 --> 00:48:32,719 Speaker 6: That is hilarious. 901 00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,040 Speaker 1: That's going to live rent for you my head. No, 902 00:48:44,120 --> 00:48:44,880 Speaker 1: that is crazy. 903 00:48:44,920 --> 00:48:47,560 Speaker 8: That's funny. 904 00:48:48,080 --> 00:48:54,040 Speaker 5: I never thought about it between pimp Aquarius and. 905 00:48:55,560 --> 00:48:55,680 Speaker 6: No. 906 00:48:55,760 --> 00:48:57,520 Speaker 4: But I'm just saying that. You know, and I know 907 00:48:57,600 --> 00:49:00,719 Speaker 4: this is very weird to say, but you being. 908 00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:05,480 Speaker 1: That is you? Yes, you forgot what he looked like. 909 00:49:07,120 --> 00:49:08,600 Speaker 1: I'm pretty sure that's you. 910 00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,520 Speaker 5: Okay, sorry you, but you. 911 00:49:11,080 --> 00:49:15,640 Speaker 4: Being uh highly utilized and recognizable Jiff. 912 00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:20,640 Speaker 1: It's actually not none of the scot fat either. 913 00:49:20,560 --> 00:49:22,279 Speaker 2: Because that's new celebrity now. 914 00:49:22,320 --> 00:49:25,560 Speaker 1: That's yeah. I'm not a Jiff, you know what I mean. 915 00:49:25,800 --> 00:49:26,120 Speaker 5: You are. 916 00:49:26,800 --> 00:49:28,400 Speaker 1: I'm a gift, but I'm not a go. 917 00:49:28,560 --> 00:49:29,719 Speaker 6: To like James. 918 00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:39,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, if it's shade or citizens this space comes up first. 919 00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:41,719 Speaker 4: Is that a weird feeling for you? 920 00:49:41,840 --> 00:49:44,600 Speaker 2: It is to be because you. 921 00:49:46,840 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: I get recognized. 922 00:49:47,800 --> 00:49:50,800 Speaker 8: It's crazy that I get recognized. And it's the funny 923 00:49:50,840 --> 00:49:53,840 Speaker 8: thing is always older grandmother. 924 00:49:53,960 --> 00:49:56,759 Speaker 5: Yeah, they love Nelson, Joe. 925 00:49:56,840 --> 00:49:59,759 Speaker 1: They watched the Tonight Show. They watched the Tonight Show. 926 00:50:00,920 --> 00:50:02,160 Speaker 8: And I can hear I'm walking up here and I 927 00:50:02,200 --> 00:50:05,080 Speaker 8: hear James shut. So when I hear that, I'm instantly 928 00:50:05,200 --> 00:50:16,920 Speaker 8: I noticed it, Like, Hey, I don't like, I don't know, that's. 929 00:50:13,000 --> 00:50:15,520 Speaker 9: Like the new sampling. Like it really like means that's 930 00:50:15,560 --> 00:50:18,480 Speaker 9: like the new sampling. Like it totally just exposes you 931 00:50:18,840 --> 00:50:21,160 Speaker 9: to a new audience that never would have got to 932 00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:21,880 Speaker 9: you otherwise. 933 00:50:22,080 --> 00:50:25,759 Speaker 7: So yeah, on a follon note a mirror, I just 934 00:50:25,800 --> 00:50:28,600 Speaker 7: like to ask you, like, why did you feel like 935 00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:29,040 Speaker 7: you had to. 936 00:50:29,040 --> 00:50:30,680 Speaker 6: Have James on this this ride? 937 00:50:31,480 --> 00:50:37,920 Speaker 4: Mostly we wanted to double down on every instrument because 938 00:50:38,000 --> 00:50:41,920 Speaker 4: one person as a keyboard player, then if James is sick, 939 00:50:42,520 --> 00:50:46,200 Speaker 4: you know, our parents are up there in age anything, 940 00:50:46,400 --> 00:50:49,120 Speaker 4: you know what I mean, we need to double down. 941 00:50:49,160 --> 00:50:54,000 Speaker 4: So there's always like two keyboard players, two drummers. 942 00:50:53,560 --> 00:50:54,280 Speaker 6: Two drummers. 943 00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,399 Speaker 1: Wait, Elliott, Okay, I'm in a band called The Root. 944 00:50:58,400 --> 00:51:01,239 Speaker 7: But okay, don't do that because this people don't think 945 00:51:01,280 --> 00:51:01,919 Speaker 7: drummer Strow. 946 00:51:01,960 --> 00:51:04,120 Speaker 6: Okay, because they see Strow, I don't do that. They 947 00:51:04,160 --> 00:51:05,040 Speaker 6: see him on a little thing. 948 00:51:05,360 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 3: I think a lot of what happens on the Tonight 949 00:51:08,200 --> 00:51:11,919 Speaker 3: show is kind of like live scoring of like what's 950 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,399 Speaker 3: whatever's happening on the stage. And so James is good 951 00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:15,799 Speaker 3: at that. 952 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:18,000 Speaker 6: I thought that's what he was going. What's that where 953 00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,680 Speaker 6: I thought he was going to go with more with I. 954 00:51:19,640 --> 00:51:21,840 Speaker 3: Mean, there's other reasons, but that's one of the reasons 955 00:51:21,920 --> 00:51:22,920 Speaker 3: I see. 956 00:51:23,360 --> 00:51:25,279 Speaker 1: I'm sorry. 957 00:51:25,320 --> 00:51:28,440 Speaker 4: Well, besides, he could play his ass off obvious things. 958 00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:33,520 Speaker 1: I thought we knew that already. You're reading, right my 959 00:51:33,680 --> 00:51:39,600 Speaker 1: reading think necessary? No, Well, so I can. 960 00:51:40,000 --> 00:51:42,719 Speaker 5: I can write piano music, but I can't play it 961 00:51:42,760 --> 00:51:45,040 Speaker 5: for the ship like two staffs at the same time. Nope, 962 00:51:45,360 --> 00:51:45,840 Speaker 5: not happening. 963 00:51:45,920 --> 00:51:47,920 Speaker 8: The guys that can read, is it worth it? 964 00:51:47,920 --> 00:51:50,160 Speaker 5: It depends on your profession in my opinion. 965 00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:52,319 Speaker 4: I don't know, man, I feel like, I mean, once 966 00:51:52,520 --> 00:51:56,520 Speaker 4: I found the Philadelphia school curriculum is dropping cursive writing 967 00:51:56,560 --> 00:51:58,440 Speaker 4: and penmanship, Well that's different. 968 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:01,040 Speaker 6: They can't get rid of it. Come on, imagine Kaplain 969 00:52:01,040 --> 00:52:01,520 Speaker 6: and I haven't it. 970 00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:04,560 Speaker 1: They don't have it. They're not reading music. 971 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:09,400 Speaker 7: No, no, oh yeah, no, I know the chur curses 972 00:52:09,440 --> 00:52:10,160 Speaker 7: a rape. 973 00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:11,719 Speaker 1: Is there anything we didn't cover? 974 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:14,000 Speaker 6: It was just too much. 975 00:52:14,520 --> 00:52:17,719 Speaker 4: You're doing it now, like talk about talk about the 976 00:52:18,360 --> 00:52:21,320 Speaker 4: TV shows. Yeah, like your your life as a score 977 00:52:21,960 --> 00:52:23,640 Speaker 4: and thank you for totally awesome by the way, I 978 00:52:23,640 --> 00:52:24,120 Speaker 4: think you could. 979 00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:26,480 Speaker 1: That movie was hilarious. 980 00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:28,600 Speaker 2: That movie that was like a. 981 00:52:28,520 --> 00:52:33,440 Speaker 9: Spoof movie with Chris Chris I think it was Chris 982 00:52:34,280 --> 00:52:35,200 Speaker 9: the Brand directed. 983 00:52:35,280 --> 00:52:36,560 Speaker 8: Yeah, Neil, Neil. 984 00:52:38,239 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 2: This is. 985 00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,400 Speaker 5: James's current job is the Jason Siegel character on whatever 986 00:52:43,440 --> 00:52:46,279 Speaker 5: that show is. He just plays low tones and like actually. 987 00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,240 Speaker 1: He said in front of TV. 988 00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,160 Speaker 4: Say it was frustrating for me because they never know 989 00:52:54,200 --> 00:52:55,360 Speaker 4: what they want. 990 00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:56,680 Speaker 1: They know what they don't want. 991 00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,600 Speaker 8: That's it. That's the thing. You got to learn to 992 00:52:59,760 --> 00:53:03,359 Speaker 8: break the notes writing whatever they tell you. You know, I've 993 00:53:03,360 --> 00:53:03,920 Speaker 8: had to learn that. 994 00:53:04,040 --> 00:53:06,080 Speaker 1: Take a huge broke you. 995 00:53:06,440 --> 00:53:08,520 Speaker 9: I learned that you were a big part of teaching 996 00:53:08,560 --> 00:53:11,080 Speaker 9: me that when we did that Fame record, because you know, 997 00:53:11,080 --> 00:53:12,520 Speaker 9: you talk about me telling you the truth, like I 998 00:53:12,520 --> 00:53:15,560 Speaker 9: would send the joint and you came back. It was like, okay, man, Yeah, 999 00:53:15,560 --> 00:53:16,919 Speaker 9: this is dope. But I think, you know this part 1000 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:19,120 Speaker 9: you should change and do a little bit whatever. And 1001 00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:21,839 Speaker 9: that was the thing that taught me of like listen, man, 1002 00:53:21,960 --> 00:53:23,640 Speaker 9: like this is not yours. 1003 00:53:23,960 --> 00:53:26,920 Speaker 2: You're working in service of something bigger. So if they 1004 00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:29,640 Speaker 2: want more cowvill, just give them more for exactly. That's 1005 00:53:29,680 --> 00:53:30,080 Speaker 2: the end of it. 1006 00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:31,839 Speaker 8: I had to you know, I didn't realize I had 1007 00:53:31,840 --> 00:53:35,520 Speaker 8: an ego, but that part the first time you hear 1008 00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:40,359 Speaker 8: when somebody says that's cool, but no, wow, when. 1009 00:53:40,280 --> 00:53:43,040 Speaker 4: You get the equalizer, how is it fed to you 1010 00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:46,839 Speaker 4: when you're giving scenes like we need something here? 1011 00:53:47,400 --> 00:53:49,879 Speaker 8: Yeah. So I'm co scoring that with a guy named 1012 00:53:49,960 --> 00:53:53,000 Speaker 8: Robert Duncan, who's done who did it from the beginning 1013 00:53:53,520 --> 00:53:55,840 Speaker 8: for the first free seasons. I came on on the 1014 00:53:55,840 --> 00:53:59,000 Speaker 8: third season. I'm in season four now. So he was 1015 00:53:59,040 --> 00:54:02,719 Speaker 8: a true vet at the stuff. So I'm he's been 1016 00:54:02,719 --> 00:54:03,319 Speaker 8: teaching me a lot. 1017 00:54:04,960 --> 00:54:08,840 Speaker 4: Uh. Dana and Sha called me when I was like, 1018 00:54:08,880 --> 00:54:10,520 Speaker 4: I really want to do the scoring thing. I reached 1019 00:54:10,520 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 4: out to a lot of people like, hey. 1020 00:54:13,160 --> 00:54:14,960 Speaker 8: If you need music for anything, I'm trying to do it. 1021 00:54:15,000 --> 00:54:16,279 Speaker 8: And hit me back. 1022 00:54:16,360 --> 00:54:17,960 Speaker 1: You know, it's a whole the brain side. 1023 00:54:18,080 --> 00:54:22,200 Speaker 8: It's not It's not like a whole d M. I 1024 00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:26,320 Speaker 8: was like, yo, if so, she hired me for Cherished 1025 00:54:26,360 --> 00:54:30,400 Speaker 8: Today and I did. I did the first three episodes. 1026 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:31,200 Speaker 1: We got fired. 1027 00:54:33,080 --> 00:54:35,719 Speaker 8: You got listen when I got fired, my agent said, 1028 00:54:36,080 --> 00:54:38,080 Speaker 8: you're officially in a composer. 1029 00:54:39,640 --> 00:54:43,120 Speaker 1: Wow, oh what's that like? It sucks? 1030 00:54:43,280 --> 00:54:45,120 Speaker 8: It sucks, but it is, it is what it is. 1031 00:54:45,160 --> 00:54:47,279 Speaker 6: You learn from You are so blessed. That's beautiful. That 1032 00:54:47,320 --> 00:54:48,040 Speaker 6: was a beautiful question. 1033 00:54:48,200 --> 00:54:51,720 Speaker 5: I got fired before I got fired by Terry Gilliam, 1034 00:54:51,880 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 5: you know. 1035 00:54:52,200 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: Wow. 1036 00:54:52,760 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 5: Yeah, I did some like weird it was like some 1037 00:54:55,440 --> 00:54:59,200 Speaker 5: NASCAR thing and it just wasn't happening. I got the uh, 1038 00:54:59,360 --> 00:55:03,520 Speaker 5: it's going on away different, like a whole different direction. 1039 00:55:05,160 --> 00:55:05,719 Speaker 1: I know it was. 1040 00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:06,560 Speaker 2: It was for me. 1041 00:55:06,719 --> 00:55:07,360 Speaker 5: I just didn't have it. 1042 00:55:08,080 --> 00:55:15,040 Speaker 3: I got fired from Schizzler for stealing Fried Trimp. 1043 00:55:18,440 --> 00:55:21,000 Speaker 2: So the scoring you do that pretty much from the crib. 1044 00:55:21,200 --> 00:55:25,360 Speaker 8: Yeah, from from the house. Yeah, you're working on Equalizer. 1045 00:55:25,520 --> 00:55:28,640 Speaker 8: Started a new show which I can't really talk about 1046 00:55:28,920 --> 00:55:34,960 Speaker 8: right now, comedy. It's actually a crime drammer, a bunch 1047 00:55:35,040 --> 00:55:39,640 Speaker 8: of actually it's not that's more Equalized. This is more 1048 00:55:39,719 --> 00:55:43,840 Speaker 8: string quartet, right yeah. 1049 00:55:43,960 --> 00:55:44,640 Speaker 2: And a lot of stuff. 1050 00:55:45,560 --> 00:55:47,719 Speaker 6: When can we talk about it? 1051 00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,040 Speaker 8: When it comes out because you don't know when you're 1052 00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:50,720 Speaker 8: gonna get fired. 1053 00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:57,000 Speaker 5: Preach you like writing for strings that it's it's something new, 1054 00:55:57,440 --> 00:55:57,680 Speaker 5: you know. 1055 00:55:57,800 --> 00:56:01,400 Speaker 8: Again, I'm pretty much educated and a lot of that stuff, 1056 00:56:01,640 --> 00:56:04,879 Speaker 8: but I had to YouTube. University is a beautiful place. 1057 00:56:07,280 --> 00:56:10,799 Speaker 1: What's the crunch education version of scoring? Like what did 1058 00:56:10,840 --> 00:56:11,160 Speaker 1: you have. 1059 00:56:11,160 --> 00:56:14,919 Speaker 8: To learn the it's not and it wasn't anything musical Again, 1060 00:56:14,960 --> 00:56:18,720 Speaker 8: It's what we talked about, losing the ego and learning 1061 00:56:18,840 --> 00:56:23,600 Speaker 8: really really truly learning that you got to do what 1062 00:56:23,719 --> 00:56:26,799 Speaker 8: they want period right period, So you can be as 1063 00:56:26,840 --> 00:56:28,719 Speaker 8: musical as you want to be. If that ain't it, 1064 00:56:28,920 --> 00:56:29,720 Speaker 8: that ain't the picture. 1065 00:56:30,719 --> 00:56:31,440 Speaker 1: Stick to the picture. 1066 00:56:31,440 --> 00:56:32,919 Speaker 8: You have to stick to what they what they want. 1067 00:56:33,719 --> 00:56:36,200 Speaker 4: Well, I always you know, the first thing they always 1068 00:56:36,239 --> 00:56:38,400 Speaker 4: lose when I got called was no drums. 1069 00:56:38,760 --> 00:56:40,879 Speaker 5: So you're like. 1070 00:56:41,120 --> 00:56:42,800 Speaker 1: Because it gets in the way of the dialogue, and 1071 00:56:42,880 --> 00:56:45,000 Speaker 1: I'm like, well, I'm not this is not for me. 1072 00:56:45,040 --> 00:56:47,759 Speaker 8: It's funny though that I've read and seen that there's 1073 00:56:47,800 --> 00:56:50,840 Speaker 8: a lot of like really heavyweight producers that try to 1074 00:56:50,880 --> 00:56:52,880 Speaker 8: do this and they can. 1075 00:56:53,400 --> 00:56:56,040 Speaker 9: They don't like being told no, yeah, and to like 1076 00:56:56,200 --> 00:56:58,560 Speaker 9: doing working on TV that's a different timeline, Like you 1077 00:56:58,600 --> 00:57:01,160 Speaker 9: don't have time to sit and talk for two hours 1078 00:57:01,160 --> 00:57:04,360 Speaker 9: about It's like we need this ship now, Yeah. 1079 00:57:04,239 --> 00:57:06,320 Speaker 4: That's what it is, all right, So we got to 1080 00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:10,040 Speaker 4: get you past Ludwig. Like for me, Ludwig is the 1081 00:57:11,000 --> 00:57:12,680 Speaker 4: try that has to Yeah. 1082 00:57:12,760 --> 00:57:15,040 Speaker 1: I mean he started a community and then he did 1083 00:57:15,080 --> 00:57:16,320 Speaker 1: all He's Cold lover stuff. 1084 00:57:16,480 --> 00:57:20,800 Speaker 4: He's amazing, and then he did Black Panther and behind 1085 00:57:20,360 --> 00:57:24,000 Speaker 4: it just one Gordons and the composer. 1086 00:57:24,840 --> 00:57:28,160 Speaker 6: I got context clues I figured out about. 1087 00:57:29,440 --> 00:57:31,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know him. 1088 00:57:31,920 --> 00:57:33,840 Speaker 8: Chris Bowles is another one that's. 1089 00:57:33,640 --> 00:57:37,360 Speaker 4: Just like, ah, yeah, Chris, So those are the mountains 1090 00:57:37,400 --> 00:57:39,440 Speaker 4: you have to climb to get to the prime stuff. 1091 00:57:39,760 --> 00:57:42,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, what is it that you want to score? 1092 00:57:42,640 --> 00:57:48,040 Speaker 8: I would love to do some big budget Hollywood John 1093 00:57:48,080 --> 00:57:48,840 Speaker 8: Williams ship. 1094 00:57:49,280 --> 00:57:51,720 Speaker 6: Action, action, don't matter. 1095 00:57:51,880 --> 00:57:54,520 Speaker 8: Yeah, you know I love all kinds of film, you 1096 00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:55,000 Speaker 8: know I love. 1097 00:57:55,240 --> 00:57:59,600 Speaker 3: Maybe you want to circle back to common or maybe 1098 00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,680 Speaker 3: maybe a question the guy who you made fun of 1099 00:58:03,680 --> 00:58:07,400 Speaker 3: not getting the gig, maybe you should call him. 1100 00:58:06,960 --> 00:58:11,280 Speaker 1: Movies these days? 1101 00:58:11,320 --> 00:58:16,880 Speaker 4: Like for you is besides the never released Randy Watson record? 1102 00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:21,280 Speaker 1: Is there? You've done everything? Now? 1103 00:58:21,400 --> 00:58:25,120 Speaker 4: Like, what is your preferred method of creativity? Do you 1104 00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:29,840 Speaker 4: prefer live ship? Do you prefer creating a record from 1105 00:58:29,920 --> 00:58:30,680 Speaker 4: Souper Nuts. 1106 00:58:31,800 --> 00:58:33,520 Speaker 8: It's a combination of all of it. 1107 00:58:33,640 --> 00:58:36,600 Speaker 1: You know what I mean doing it? You wish you 1108 00:58:36,600 --> 00:58:38,240 Speaker 1: were doing what's over there. 1109 00:58:38,560 --> 00:58:41,400 Speaker 8: For me, if I do too much of one thing, 1110 00:58:41,440 --> 00:58:43,240 Speaker 8: I get kind of cranking. It's like I gotta go. 1111 00:58:43,600 --> 00:58:45,920 Speaker 8: I need to go to a jam session or go play. 1112 00:58:46,640 --> 00:58:48,760 Speaker 8: You know, it's crazy. We only play. We play less 1113 00:58:48,760 --> 00:58:52,160 Speaker 8: than ten minutes of music on the show. Really, so 1114 00:58:52,640 --> 00:58:54,200 Speaker 8: you want to play. 1115 00:58:53,920 --> 00:58:54,160 Speaker 1: You know. 1116 00:58:54,280 --> 00:58:56,680 Speaker 8: That's why we started doing those jazz gigs around town 1117 00:58:56,760 --> 00:58:57,520 Speaker 8: just so we could. 1118 00:58:58,840 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 7: Did you could just pop up at all. 1119 00:59:01,520 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 4: He was at Djengo at the Django, which was like 1120 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 4: a really hip New York jazz jazz in the ground spot. 1121 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:10,920 Speaker 1: But now Chief has Uncle Chiefs have you guys. 1122 00:59:10,640 --> 00:59:12,560 Speaker 8: Don't get played. I played that before. It's great. 1123 00:59:12,840 --> 00:59:17,920 Speaker 4: Yeah, so yeah, Dave Guy and Ian Hendrickson and James. 1124 00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:20,600 Speaker 1: James is really uh. 1125 00:59:20,880 --> 00:59:26,440 Speaker 4: He downplays his actual piano ability. Let me find out 1126 00:59:26,440 --> 00:59:29,600 Speaker 4: that James doesn't think that he's a good piano player. 1127 00:59:29,600 --> 00:59:32,640 Speaker 6: I'm still learning, as you should. There's nothing wrong with that, 1128 00:59:33,000 --> 00:59:34,080 Speaker 6: but not. 1129 00:59:33,960 --> 00:59:37,840 Speaker 4: Even like he's a very capable piano player, because we 1130 00:59:37,880 --> 00:59:40,280 Speaker 4: wouldn't utilized them all these decades. 1131 00:59:41,040 --> 00:59:46,960 Speaker 8: Shut up but the best thing is the balance of 1132 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:50,400 Speaker 8: sitting in front of a computer screen doing whatever, playing 1133 00:59:50,440 --> 00:59:53,920 Speaker 8: with the band, playing live, you know, just the combination 1134 00:59:54,000 --> 00:59:56,160 Speaker 8: of all of those things, doing session work. You know, 1135 00:59:56,640 --> 00:59:58,520 Speaker 8: that's just I love it all. I love it. 1136 00:59:58,560 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 6: What's the next record that you are working? 1137 01:00:00,560 --> 01:00:00,600 Speaker 7: Like? 1138 01:00:00,720 --> 01:00:04,400 Speaker 6: Artists wise, I'm working with Tank, Tanking, the Bankers. 1139 01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:07,520 Speaker 8: Poetry album, Tanking, the Bangers. 1140 01:00:08,240 --> 01:00:11,800 Speaker 6: But first of all, either way, I'm good, okay, but Tank, I. 1141 01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:14,440 Speaker 1: Feel like you're given I feel like you were given 1142 01:00:14,640 --> 01:00:15,560 Speaker 1: other tank energy. 1143 01:00:15,680 --> 01:00:18,240 Speaker 6: I was given other Tankery because I was just jameson. 1144 01:00:23,640 --> 01:00:28,520 Speaker 8: If she's listening, what up be that's my that's my 1145 01:00:28,560 --> 01:00:30,800 Speaker 8: New Orleans as she hates. 1146 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:32,439 Speaker 6: She's been on this show. 1147 01:00:32,520 --> 01:00:34,880 Speaker 5: Sounds Jamaican does That's what she said. 1148 01:00:36,040 --> 01:00:38,520 Speaker 4: Okay, So before we wrap up, Stevens, there anything else 1149 01:00:38,520 --> 01:00:39,040 Speaker 4: you want to add? 1150 01:00:39,160 --> 01:00:41,760 Speaker 3: James Poison is a legend, totally. 1151 01:00:41,880 --> 01:00:42,680 Speaker 1: No real bro. 1152 01:00:42,960 --> 01:00:44,480 Speaker 8: Thank you, thank you man. 1153 01:00:44,920 --> 01:00:49,240 Speaker 4: You know I will say that you know, of all 1154 01:00:49,280 --> 01:00:59,920 Speaker 4: the keyboard players in the world from West Philly, Kate Bourne, 1155 01:01:03,880 --> 01:01:05,360 Speaker 4: extremely specific. 1156 01:01:06,800 --> 01:01:10,160 Speaker 5: Like Nelson George, Yes exactly, I wouldn't. 1157 01:01:09,760 --> 01:01:12,040 Speaker 6: You in a room. No, that's that's a bit though, 1158 01:01:12,080 --> 01:01:13,360 Speaker 6: that Nelson George saying. 1159 01:01:15,200 --> 01:01:17,320 Speaker 4: I gotta find that on my damn so now, thank 1160 01:01:17,360 --> 01:01:22,120 Speaker 4: you for doing this and you know taking flowers and serious. 1161 01:01:22,120 --> 01:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Thank you man, thank you for always being a big 1162 01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:25,320 Speaker 1: brother man. 1163 01:01:25,720 --> 01:01:26,240 Speaker 8: Appreciate it. 1164 01:01:28,640 --> 01:01:30,520 Speaker 7: In the film the TV world like that's dope, like 1165 01:01:30,560 --> 01:01:33,280 Speaker 7: that theis of that is like, oh no, that was. 1166 01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:37,600 Speaker 1: My first you guys except for. 1167 01:01:41,000 --> 01:01:46,280 Speaker 4: James and Phil and like in Fanto and Sugar uh 1168 01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:48,200 Speaker 4: this of course Love Supreme will see you all next week. 1169 01:01:49,760 --> 01:01:50,640 Speaker 1: This is Sugar Steve. 1170 01:01:50,840 --> 01:01:54,040 Speaker 3: Thank you for listening to Quest Love Supreme. 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