WEBVTT - The Devil Wears Prada 2: 2 Way 2 Run 0:00:04.800 --> 0:00:09.840 That is a sound effect of a sidekick circa two 0:00:09.840 --> 0:00:15.840 thousand and six, alerting all of you virgins that we 0:00:15.880 --> 0:00:21.200 are here with another episode of like a Virgin. Yes 0:00:21.239 --> 0:00:25.160 we are, We're back, baby. This is our first proper, 0:00:25.400 --> 0:00:30.960 like actual main feed episode that we're putting out, not 0:00:31.080 --> 0:00:32.480 just on Patreon. 0:00:32.080 --> 0:00:35.760 In a while, And honestly, we are so generous. This 0:00:35.920 --> 0:00:40.040 is like the juiciest possible episode we could be giving 0:00:40.040 --> 0:00:42.760 to y'all without a paywall, Like you're welcome for this 0:00:42.800 --> 0:00:46.640 free episode. We're about to pop the fuck off today. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:52.040 We were born talking to you. We're talking met Gala, 0:00:52.120 --> 0:00:57.240 we're talking gay HBO shows, but most importantly, we are 0:00:57.280 --> 0:01:02.280 talking the devil is product too uh, the Devil's product 0:01:02.320 --> 0:01:10.399 to to devil to product to run too way way 0:01:10.440 --> 0:01:11.000 to run. 0:01:12.920 --> 0:01:14.800 Yeah, let me tell you we were born to review 0:01:14.840 --> 0:01:15.280 this movie. 0:01:15.760 --> 0:01:18.480 We were. But we're gonna we're gonna edge you all 0:01:18.520 --> 0:01:21.759 a little bit. We're gonna save the discussion for later 0:01:21.800 --> 0:01:25.880 in the episode. First, we have a couple of you know, 0:01:26.880 --> 0:01:32.560 trending topics. We have a moose boosh of so just 0:01:32.560 --> 0:01:35.399 some stuff that that we wanted to talk about before 0:01:35.440 --> 0:01:38.319 we get into our main discussion of the episode. Because 0:01:38.360 --> 0:01:43.520 we know we're gonna go long. Yes, And I guess 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.480 we should start with the most topical of them, which 0:01:45.520 --> 0:01:48.440 is that the met Gala was last night. Yes, and 0:01:48.520 --> 0:01:50.240 it was shipped from a butt. 0:01:50.480 --> 0:01:51.560 It was shipped from a butt. 0:01:53.360 --> 0:01:55.280 Is okay? This is a question I want to post 0:01:55.280 --> 0:01:57.680 to you. Is the met Gala over? 0:01:58.480 --> 0:02:01.000 I think the met Gala has kind of over. I 0:02:01.040 --> 0:02:06.320 think that it is undeniable that there is no event 0:02:07.760 --> 0:02:12.240 that would better encapsulate like the imagination of the fashion world. 0:02:12.240 --> 0:02:14.880 There's no there's nothing can ever touch it in terms 0:02:14.919 --> 0:02:19.760 of like what it's accomplished on the you know, thrills 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:22.120 and chills in vava voom of it all in the 0:02:22.120 --> 0:02:27.160 fashion world. Like. And I think when the theme is good, 0:02:27.680 --> 0:02:31.680 the met Gala is good to be honest, like even 0:02:31.880 --> 0:02:35.320 when yes, like I think that Metala is good when 0:02:35.360 --> 0:02:37.680 the theme is good, like I'm sorry, Like I loved 0:02:37.720 --> 0:02:39.720 the Camp met Gala. I thought it was fabulous. 0:02:40.040 --> 0:02:43.240 Yes, but I do think that the Camp met Gala 0:02:44.520 --> 0:02:50.160 this killed the met Gala. And since then everyone's showing 0:02:50.280 --> 0:02:53.120 up either in something really boring because they don't want 0:02:53.120 --> 0:02:55.600 to get torn apart online, or they show up looking 0:02:55.880 --> 0:02:58.400 like party City. I wanted to yell at Heidi Clume 0:02:58.480 --> 0:03:03.640 last night, like fucking like fucking Fifi O'Hara to Sharon Needles, 0:03:03.639 --> 0:03:05.480 go back to party city where you belong. 0:03:05.919 --> 0:03:08.560 Here's okay, So I'm actually gonna start to disagree with 0:03:08.600 --> 0:03:09.000 you right now? 0:03:09.040 --> 0:03:10.520 Is that okay? 0:03:11.639 --> 0:03:18.680 I actually think that Heidi Klume brought what I believe 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:23.320 is the best you can bring to a met Gala theme. 0:03:23.800 --> 0:03:26.320 I'm girl this this night. 0:03:27.000 --> 0:03:29.600 Charlie is the babes. 0:03:29.639 --> 0:03:32.240 Here's the thing, fashion and subjective. If you don't like 0:03:32.320 --> 0:03:34.760 something that somebody is wearing, nine times out of ten, 0:03:35.160 --> 0:03:37.680 you know it might actually be really fab and you 0:03:37.720 --> 0:03:39.320 actually are just not the person that doesn't like it. 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:40.920 And then other times it's like, oh no, no, we 0:03:40.960 --> 0:03:44.320 can unanimously agree that that is a go, go, go go. Sorry, 0:03:44.400 --> 0:03:47.920 Hudson Williams, you look like Tyler Ashley wearing like the dress, 0:03:47.960 --> 0:03:51.960 like if the dress was cut into a suit, and 0:03:51.720 --> 0:03:55.120 and that is actually giving him too much credit because 0:03:55.160 --> 0:03:59.360 Tyler Ashley looks much better than him. Sorry, but with 0:03:59.480 --> 0:04:03.280 Heidi Klune, that is avant garde. The Megala is about 0:04:03.680 --> 0:04:07.600 avant garde couture, go there fashion. If you are not, 0:04:07.760 --> 0:04:12.320 you cannot wear this anywhere else but the Megala. And yes, 0:04:12.760 --> 0:04:16.080 was Heidi Klum giving Halloween Town, Yes. 0:04:16.800 --> 0:04:19.480 Halloween Town too, calibars revenge. 0:04:19.160 --> 0:04:23.360 Calibars revenge. But was it fashion ten thousand percent? And 0:04:23.680 --> 0:04:26.640 you know, Anakia, I think like that was like a 0:04:26.680 --> 0:04:29.360 much more reserved version of like that I did for. 0:04:29.360 --> 0:04:34.240 Me works not only because our good Judy Laurel Charleston, Yes, 0:04:34.560 --> 0:04:37.160 worked worked on that, but one could argue that they 0:04:37.240 --> 0:04:41.200 had the party city quality because it's like an encased 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:45.200 like wig like it's a lot of make up, a 0:04:45.200 --> 0:04:48.160 lot of prosthetic work. Yes, but that to me, I 0:04:48.279 --> 0:04:52.320 just think I'm here for you on fashion being subjective. 0:04:52.560 --> 0:04:56.039 I just the I guess the place where I'm coming from, 0:04:56.240 --> 0:04:58.679 and I think both of these, both of our opinions 0:04:58.720 --> 0:05:02.440 are valid. Yes, uh, the place I'm coming from. 0:05:02.800 --> 0:05:06.040 Sorry again, but it's fine. 0:05:06.240 --> 0:05:09.320 Okay, Well you guys. You guys will be used to 0:05:09.720 --> 0:05:14.760 hear interruptions on the podcast. The I guess where I'm 0:05:14.760 --> 0:05:18.640 coming from is I think what people like Heidi Klume 0:05:19.440 --> 0:05:21.480 or like Jared Leto when he came in the first 0:05:21.560 --> 0:05:25.120 suit are doing it. It's just going past fashion and 0:05:25.200 --> 0:05:28.640 into costume. Well, but that's the thing Diva, the theme 0:05:28.839 --> 0:05:34.240 is costume art. So if the theme is costume art, 0:05:34.279 --> 0:05:36.240 it actually makes sense that this year, out out of 0:05:36.279 --> 0:05:38.919 any every other year, like yes, bad Bunny should wear 0:05:39.200 --> 0:05:41.960 like an old man face. Like actually that was like 0:05:42.000 --> 0:05:45.599 a bit confusing to me, Like the about how he 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:50.479 looked like sexy Colonel Sanders, he did look sexy. He 0:05:50.480 --> 0:05:52.720 did look sexy. I mean, he's gonna be hot as 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.000 fuck when he's seventy. 0:05:54.279 --> 0:05:58.000 What I can agree with you, So so what I 0:05:58.000 --> 0:06:02.480 I think every single year celebrities struggle to interpret the 0:06:02.480 --> 0:06:07.920 theme because if you're not aware, the theme of the 0:06:07.960 --> 0:06:12.839 Met Gala exhibit is always different than the theme of 0:06:12.880 --> 0:06:15.880 the actual Met Gala. And if the theme of the 0:06:15.920 --> 0:06:20.159 metal exhibit is the dressed body, the theme of the actual 0:06:20.160 --> 0:06:23.040 metal is costume art, and those and then and then 0:06:23.040 --> 0:06:26.560 celebrities are kind of like, you know, getting their pannies 0:06:26.600 --> 0:06:28.320 all up in a bundle, trying to figure out how 0:06:28.320 --> 0:06:30.960 the fuck to interpret the theme. And they think that 0:06:30.960 --> 0:06:34.599 they should also reference the Met Gala like exhibit theme, 0:06:34.600 --> 0:06:36.680 and then they try to combine them and like it's 0:06:36.720 --> 0:06:40.640 like it's always a bit of a mess. Like and 0:06:40.720 --> 0:06:43.359 so to me, like when I look at when I 0:06:43.400 --> 0:06:46.160 try to evaluate, like the looks at the Mechala, I'm 0:06:46.440 --> 0:06:52.440 usually wanting to like reward somebody that's really fucking going there, 0:06:52.760 --> 0:06:54.880 And like I do think Heidi Klum, even though it 0:06:54.920 --> 0:06:56.840 wasn't my favorite look of the night, like embodies that 0:06:56.960 --> 0:07:00.640 I also think Madonna like was given like. 0:07:00.880 --> 0:07:03.520 They're they're does they're deuce there does seem And I 0:07:03.560 --> 0:07:07.159 actually think that this was nowhere better exemplified than with 0:07:08.120 --> 0:07:11.280 hud Con Hudson Williams and Connor Story. Right, what we 0:07:11.480 --> 0:07:15.720 have now is people either doing way too little because 0:07:15.720 --> 0:07:18.800 they don't want to look a fool, or because they're 0:07:18.840 --> 0:07:22.520 contractually obligated towards something boring, or they do too much 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:26.400 and they do look a fool. And I think Connor 0:07:26.480 --> 0:07:31.400 Story showing up in his best Macy's mal drag looking 0:07:31.440 --> 0:07:34.600 like miss ma'am she in a YSL look that has 0:07:34.640 --> 0:07:38.600 been worn by at least five other celebrities on various 0:07:38.640 --> 0:07:42.200 red carpets, that is just doing too little and is boring. 0:07:42.320 --> 0:07:46.400 And then Hudson Williams shows up looking like Moira Rose 0:07:46.960 --> 0:07:52.120 from The Crow movie on his street and it's like 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:57.760 and it's like, I guess I get where you're coming. 0:07:57.760 --> 0:08:00.480 From friend because with him, I'm like, you know what, 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.400 at least he tried something. Yeah, yeah, like it was 0:08:03.520 --> 0:08:06.560 it was gogogo, but like, you know what, he went 0:08:06.640 --> 0:08:08.040 for it and he looks. 0:08:07.760 --> 0:08:10.840 Like the dress cut up into a suit. You know, 0:08:10.880 --> 0:08:11.680 the dress from the. 0:08:11.880 --> 0:08:15.040 Dress, the color changing dress. Yes, is it black? Is 0:08:15.080 --> 0:08:16.800 it black and blue? Or brown and yellow? 0:08:16.840 --> 0:08:17.680 That's what it looks like. 0:08:17.720 --> 0:08:19.640 You know what it was Neither it was none of 0:08:19.680 --> 0:08:23.840 those colors. No, it's black. It was black and blue. Baby, 0:08:24.040 --> 0:08:26.559 No it's black and white. No, it was his suit. 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:27.679 His suit was white. 0:08:28.000 --> 0:08:29.920 No, it's absolutely blue. 0:08:29.960 --> 0:08:33.199 Am I cry? You're color blind? Baby? That's blue and 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:35.000 no it's white. See. 0:08:35.000 --> 0:08:36.480 This is the thing about the dress. This is why 0:08:36.520 --> 0:08:37.120 it's the dress. 0:08:38.280 --> 0:08:43.120 We have another the dress. We have another. We just 0:08:43.160 --> 0:08:46.760 discovered live on air that we have another in the dress. 0:08:46.960 --> 0:08:51.120 You do the Balenciaga Shmata, the Hudson Williams war to 0:08:51.160 --> 0:08:51.800 the met Gala. 0:08:52.240 --> 0:08:54.240 I also can't believe that's Balenciaga. 0:08:54.280 --> 0:08:55.720 I need the version. 0:08:55.800 --> 0:08:58.160 I can back me up on this otherwise, I really 0:08:58.240 --> 0:09:01.360 I mean, yes, okay, I am color blind. But anyways, okay, 0:09:01.800 --> 0:09:07.240 so here's the other thing about the theme. It as 0:09:07.280 --> 0:09:10.559 because it's costume art, right, It's like the challenge of 0:09:10.600 --> 0:09:12.840 it is, like how do you connect this idea of 0:09:12.520 --> 0:09:16.000 the of the dress body using the human form as 0:09:16.000 --> 0:09:21.720 a canvas for artistic expression. A lot of celebrities were 0:09:21.760 --> 0:09:25.280 explicitly referencing works of art, which I thought was cool, Like. 0:09:25.880 --> 0:09:28.559 Some cases that really worked, Like my favorite look of 0:09:28.600 --> 0:09:32.120 the night was Hunter Schaeffer in Prada, which was like 0:09:32.200 --> 0:09:36.720 a specific reference of this climmed painting and so mean, 0:09:37.000 --> 0:09:40.320 like no one has ever looked more beautiful or like 0:09:40.440 --> 0:09:43.720 ethereal or statuesque as her, And I love that that 0:09:43.840 --> 0:09:48.680 It's like an overt, explicit reference but through the lens 0:09:48.679 --> 0:09:52.360 of fashion and through the lens of Prada specifically, Like 0:09:52.440 --> 0:09:56.520 that's a very Prada dress, right it is. But I 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:58.480 don't think that everyone who. 0:09:58.320 --> 0:10:03.319 Tried to do that exceeded, like I thought Madonna that 0:10:03.720 --> 0:10:05.920 I don't know if you were able to, like look 0:10:06.280 --> 0:10:10.080 at the painting that Madonna is referencing. 0:10:10.240 --> 0:10:11.400 It's did I did see it? 0:10:11.400 --> 0:10:14.840 It's the Leonora Carrington piece. Like what she did was 0:10:14.840 --> 0:10:17.439 fucking cool, even though I actually think that the fabric 0:10:17.480 --> 0:10:20.440 that was draped around her was like not super expensive 0:10:20.480 --> 0:10:21.880 looking and it could have looked could have been a 0:10:21.880 --> 0:10:23.400 little cleaner, but everything was amazing. 0:10:24.760 --> 0:10:26.840 It was very cool what she wore. 0:10:27.240 --> 0:10:29.480 Yeah, she always kind of eats the megala up too. 0:10:29.520 --> 0:10:32.600 I think she always kind of slays. Yeah, if I 0:10:32.640 --> 0:10:34.000 remember correctly. 0:10:33.600 --> 0:10:37.400 I mean CARTI I always liked Prty was amazing. Someone 0:10:37.640 --> 0:10:40.200 I like posted on my Instagram story and someone replied like, 0:10:40.280 --> 0:10:42.080 she looks like a tumor. I was like, yes, that's 0:10:42.120 --> 0:10:44.839 why I like it, right, That's that's the point. 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:50.800 But obviously, like Heidi Klum's like piece, also her her 0:10:50.880 --> 0:10:53.280 outfit was also referencing like a work of art. 0:10:54.120 --> 0:10:56.840 I did see Rachel Settler. I did see one meme 0:10:57.000 --> 0:11:01.480 of Heidi's outfit where it had been like edited to 0:11:01.559 --> 0:11:04.760 be all bright colors, and it was like, this is 0:11:04.800 --> 0:11:07.280 what the statue would have originally looked like in Greek 0:11:07.280 --> 0:11:09.880 and Roman times. Like you know how how we're always 0:11:09.880 --> 0:11:14.840 debunking that, like those kinds of statues are just like white, right. 0:11:16.600 --> 0:11:21.520 Oh yeah, it's so funny to explain memes on I know. 0:11:22.000 --> 0:11:25.000 But I you know, is to go back to your 0:11:25.280 --> 0:11:28.040 initial question, is the met Gala dead? I think it's 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:33.160 been dead. I think that this year in particular, and 0:11:33.240 --> 0:11:35.760 we'll get into this in the doublewarest product to review, 0:11:35.840 --> 0:11:39.480 but this year in particular where you know, I believe 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.320 Willie Norris referred to them as Missus Goblin and mister 0:11:42.400 --> 0:11:46.800 Goblin as co chairs of the the met Gala twenty 0:11:46.840 --> 0:11:47.480 twenty six. 0:11:48.240 --> 0:11:48.600 It is. 0:11:48.640 --> 0:11:52.400 It is such a dark, dark moment actually for the 0:11:52.440 --> 0:11:56.880 future of fashion, the future of this brand as it were, 0:11:57.000 --> 0:12:01.440 within the met Gala, and a kind of reinforcement of 0:12:01.840 --> 0:12:06.440 everything we didn't like about the Metcala before, right like before. 0:12:06.280 --> 0:12:09.959 Only it's only crystallized into becoming. 0:12:09.559 --> 0:12:14.440 Worse, exactly like every before AOC war that a Gooba 0:12:14.520 --> 0:12:17.839 go go tax the rich dress. Okay, we were, we were, 0:12:18.120 --> 0:12:20.400 we were watching the Megala and being like tax the rich, 0:12:20.480 --> 0:12:21.120 tax the rich. 0:12:21.240 --> 0:12:23.320 Like as far as I, as far as I, as 0:12:23.320 --> 0:12:25.800 far as I saw last night, I didn't see any 0:12:26.240 --> 0:12:28.479 gowns with things written on them. 0:12:28.679 --> 0:12:32.560 So that progress. That's that's a win for me, real progress. 0:12:32.600 --> 0:12:36.680 I totally agree. Yeah, I I feel. 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:39.440 Very it was. 0:12:39.520 --> 0:12:44.160 It is very chilling actually for Jeff Basis and Lauren 0:12:44.200 --> 0:12:48.840 Sanchez to be there and not just there but so present, 0:12:49.360 --> 0:12:53.120 Like can I say something, yes, you think Lauren Sanchez 0:12:53.120 --> 0:12:56.240 looked good? I didn't mind her dress, girl, I mean 0:12:56.240 --> 0:12:58.760 the piece of art that she's referencing, like whatever, it's 0:12:58.800 --> 0:13:02.360 a more iconic paint, but it's boring. It's boring. She 0:13:02.400 --> 0:13:06.160 looks good, Yeah, she looks good, undeniable. You know Milania 0:13:06.200 --> 0:13:09.240 Trump also looks good a lot of the time. Yeah, 0:13:09.559 --> 0:13:13.640 you know, people that are horrible can also be clint. 0:13:13.640 --> 0:13:16.000 I may look at Emily Charlton and the Devil is 0:13:16.000 --> 0:13:16.440 Product too. 0:13:16.559 --> 0:13:21.000 Will get there, baby, the missus Sanchez of the fictional world. 0:13:22.520 --> 0:13:24.640 Okay, who was your favorite look of the night. 0:13:25.080 --> 0:13:27.760 I really did love an ox look. 0:13:28.040 --> 0:13:30.960 I really looked amazing. What did you think of What 0:13:31.000 --> 0:13:36.000 did you think of Beyonce? It's a little a little matronly. 0:13:36.200 --> 0:13:41.240 No, Beyonce and Rihanna, like, uh, they can really do 0:13:41.400 --> 0:13:43.960 no wrong to me. I'm sorry to lump them together, 0:13:44.000 --> 0:13:46.240 but they are actually like Beyonce hasn't gone to the 0:13:46.240 --> 0:13:48.600 Mecallen a while, but which she does, she always wins, 0:13:48.640 --> 0:13:51.000 And every time Rihanna goes to the Mecalic she wins. 0:13:51.720 --> 0:13:54.080 And the two of them felt like I felt like 0:13:54.200 --> 0:13:57.800 Rihanna was pretty. She looked pretty immaculate, But was it 0:13:57.840 --> 0:14:00.000 the kind of like, oh my god, I will never 0:14:00.200 --> 0:14:03.959 ever forget what you wore to this met Gala. No, 0:14:04.040 --> 0:14:10.000 and that the same went for Beyonce. Like I I 0:14:10.040 --> 0:14:12.760 think that there there are just two of the I 0:14:12.760 --> 0:14:15.400 would say that two of the most central figures of 0:14:16.000 --> 0:14:18.680 the met Gala and people that we expect to really 0:14:18.760 --> 0:14:23.160 turn the fuck out. It's exciting to always see Beyonce there. 0:14:23.400 --> 0:14:25.520 But I kind of wish she had gone with something 0:14:26.080 --> 0:14:31.800 that was just a little more campy or more of 0:14:31.840 --> 0:14:36.320 a reference or like I didn't quite I think the 0:14:36.440 --> 0:14:41.120 concept was like it just didn't have a concept, if 0:14:41.160 --> 0:14:41.600 that makes sense. 0:14:42.240 --> 0:14:44.240 It was like, look at my sparkly bones. 0:14:44.880 --> 0:14:48.360 Yeah, like and she's the queen of body, and so 0:14:48.440 --> 0:14:51.240 I like see how it could be like body, Like, yes, 0:14:51.320 --> 0:14:52.720 I'm dressed. Is the kind of place I. 0:14:52.680 --> 0:14:54.800 Should have just reworn her Herpes dress. 0:14:55.160 --> 0:14:57.600 She should have just rewarn Herpees dress, which actually looks amazing. 0:14:57.640 --> 0:15:00.400 But instead she was like, let me let me be, 0:15:00.560 --> 0:15:03.280 let me like be this statue of Liberty. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.360 If I was like Jack Skellington, realness. 0:15:05.920 --> 0:15:10.520 Yeah, the Statue of Liberty designed by Scarrowsky. I mean 0:15:10.520 --> 0:15:12.080 it doesn't look bad. I'm looking at it right now. 0:15:12.120 --> 0:15:14.520 No, it doesn't look bad. It's just and I think 0:15:14.560 --> 0:15:17.320 a lot of things last night, and this is also 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.600 a preview about how I feel about the movie we'll 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:21.200 be talking about later. A lot of the things didn't 0:15:21.240 --> 0:15:23.000 look bad. I just wasn't really gagged. 0:15:23.160 --> 0:15:27.360 I wasn't really gagged. But I think my favorite, I 0:15:27.400 --> 0:15:32.600 mean my favorite favorite favorite, I think it was a knock. 0:15:33.320 --> 0:15:36.160 I really did love the same looks that you loved. 0:15:36.280 --> 0:15:41.880 I love the dipa with the hands, this woman in 0:15:41.920 --> 0:15:44.680 this Robert One dress that had hands on it, that moved. 0:15:44.800 --> 0:15:49.080 That was so wait not Jordan Roth No, okay. 0:15:48.760 --> 0:15:54.560 No, thank no different different person. Okay, I are we 0:15:54.880 --> 0:15:55.560 can we I. 0:15:55.480 --> 0:15:57.320 Think we can move on. I think we can move on. 0:15:57.480 --> 0:16:04.480 Let's talk about something homo erotic. Hell yeah, Melsey's new album. 0:16:04.640 --> 0:16:06.760 Oh I bet you were talking about half Man Okay, half. 0:16:06.640 --> 0:16:10.800 Mels either either of those things. Well, like a brief 0:16:11.000 --> 0:16:13.680 brief thoughts about Melcie's new album. Really, it's just I 0:16:13.720 --> 0:16:17.160 also Melcy Melsey has a new album, and you should 0:16:17.200 --> 0:16:21.120 listen to it because Melsie of is the most slept 0:16:21.120 --> 0:16:25.480 on spice girl okay, and has been making really good, 0:16:26.120 --> 0:16:33.000 super super gay dance music the entire time she's been 0:16:33.280 --> 0:16:37.080 in like since the Spice Girls wor Thing. So listen 0:16:37.160 --> 0:16:40.640 to her album. It's really sexy and fun and like 0:16:41.080 --> 0:16:43.840 everything on it sounds like being at a gay bar 0:16:44.440 --> 0:16:47.800 in like two thousand and three. 0:16:48.640 --> 0:16:51.560 Yeah, it is giving kind of two thousand and three, 0:16:51.600 --> 0:16:55.440 Like it reminded me a bit of like it's kind 0:16:55.440 --> 0:16:57.760 of okay. So I don't love the album. I only 0:16:57.800 --> 0:16:59.440 listened to it once. I really did not. I'm not 0:16:59.480 --> 0:17:02.080 going to return to it. I'm sorry because in part 0:17:02.120 --> 0:17:05.359 because it's but two thousand and three rings true because 0:17:05.359 --> 0:17:09.960 it's kind of giving, like kids Bop Calise, Like it's 0:17:10.119 --> 0:17:12.640 like a little bit, it's a little bit like. 0:17:12.600 --> 0:17:16.040 It's one long Hex's Hector remix. Yeah. 0:17:16.359 --> 0:17:22.159 Yeah, And I love like Ogo Boga gay guy music, 0:17:22.200 --> 0:17:24.439 Like I love like like I'm just gonna bop to 0:17:24.480 --> 0:17:26.679 this and it's like it's pretty fab and. 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:29.280 The kind of music you're gonna hear while you're buying 0:17:29.640 --> 0:17:31.520 a pie at the Eagle. 0:17:34.000 --> 0:17:38.000 Their annual Christmas Paea. Yeah, when they have their annual 0:17:38.040 --> 0:17:40.320 Christmas pie. Like if you if you're not aware, The 0:17:40.359 --> 0:17:45.600 Eagle in New York City has an annual Paea events 0:17:45.960 --> 0:17:46.240 of a. 0:17:46.200 --> 0:17:49.640 Place you'd more want to eat shellfish than the Eagle. 0:17:49.440 --> 0:17:51.639 Than the eagle on the rooftop of the eagle, and 0:17:51.680 --> 0:17:56.320 the whole eagle smells like fish, like hot fish, fish 0:17:56.320 --> 0:17:57.320 and saffron. 0:17:58.119 --> 0:17:58.320 Yeah. 0:17:59.320 --> 0:18:02.960 Yeah, I can't even begin to tell you how much 0:18:03.000 --> 0:18:06.520 the Melcy album reminds me exactly of Pay at the Eagle. Yea, 0:18:06.920 --> 0:18:11.000 it is I love like I. Okay, here's something else 0:18:11.000 --> 0:18:14.440 that I'll say. I was at the New York City 0:18:14.480 --> 0:18:19.880 Center gala sitting at a table with Teffi and Miss 0:18:19.960 --> 0:18:24.600 Benny a few weeks ago, and when Melsey got up 0:18:24.600 --> 0:18:28.560 there to perform, she was wearing literally jeans and a 0:18:28.560 --> 0:18:33.600 T shirt. She looked so effortless, she was so controlled, 0:18:33.640 --> 0:18:36.080 she was so like she immediately fell all of this 0:18:36.200 --> 0:18:39.520 love from the room and they just hit the track. 0:18:40.000 --> 0:18:45.560 They put her in some nasty, nasty stage lighting, the 0:18:45.760 --> 0:18:50.159 cook the sound quality in a gala space Chippiani specifically 0:18:50.320 --> 0:18:56.240 so nasty, and she has nary a backup dancer, prop 0:18:56.320 --> 0:19:00.959 nor piece of Chorean baby, and she got that whole 0:19:01.080 --> 0:19:07.080 room on their mother fucking me standing up screaming because 0:19:08.000 --> 0:19:11.119 she's pretty bad. I mean, she did do Spice Girls songs, 0:19:11.280 --> 0:19:16.000 which was revelation, revelatory, but do you know how hard 0:19:16.040 --> 0:19:24.800 it is too to do a gala performance in nasty, 0:19:25.359 --> 0:19:29.560 nasty overhead lighting with bad sound in a fucking well, 0:19:29.600 --> 0:19:34.840 everybody sits and eats their fucking cold short ribbon mashed potatoes, 0:19:34.920 --> 0:19:35.720 like please. 0:19:37.000 --> 0:19:39.560 I was good. It was actually pretty good. 0:19:39.480 --> 0:19:43.359 But I I had to me, I like, she gained 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:43.640 so much. 0:19:43.880 --> 0:19:44.200 I didn't. 0:19:44.240 --> 0:19:46.000 I'm not I didn't grow up on the Spice Girls. 0:19:46.000 --> 0:19:47.960 I used to think that the Spice Girls were a 0:19:48.000 --> 0:19:53.439 fictional band, like like, yeah, I didn't know where they 0:19:53.480 --> 0:19:58.920 were real and I I I have no attachment to 0:19:58.960 --> 0:20:01.720 Melsey or to the Spicy And so for she gained 0:20:01.720 --> 0:20:03.359 so much respect from me in that moment because I 0:20:03.400 --> 0:20:05.840 was like, you're such a great performer, you're feeling all 0:20:05.880 --> 0:20:06.320 of the love. 0:20:06.520 --> 0:20:10.080 She always so much with little she did. I didn't 0:20:10.080 --> 0:20:13.080 know that she always did those runs in the songs, 0:20:13.119 --> 0:20:16.359 like she was always the one belting on the bridge. 0:20:17.240 --> 0:20:19.480 I don't know if you listened to it, but did 0:20:19.480 --> 0:20:23.399 you buy any chance to listen to Nina Geracci's I 0:20:23.440 --> 0:20:24.160 Love My Computer? 0:20:24.640 --> 0:20:24.840 No? 0:20:25.200 --> 0:20:27.960 Okay, sorry, just like while we're on the side to me, 0:20:28.200 --> 0:20:31.080 yeah I did. Actually I'll send it to you again, 0:20:31.119 --> 0:20:34.440 but no, I'll just look, are are you okay, Lou Pilled. 0:20:34.440 --> 0:20:35.000 Do you like Okay? 0:20:35.200 --> 0:20:38.439 I like ok okay, so I'm recently okay Lou Pilled. 0:20:38.720 --> 0:20:42.240 She performed at Here in New York, and opening for 0:20:42.400 --> 0:20:44.720 I wasn't there, but opening for her was Nina Giacci, 0:20:45.080 --> 0:20:47.440 and I had heard about Nina Geracci, but I had 0:20:47.480 --> 0:20:49.680 never really engaged, and I was like, you know what, actually, 0:20:49.920 --> 0:20:52.000 let me give it a listen. And her twenty twenty 0:20:52.040 --> 0:20:56.440 five album I Love My Computer is actually and I'm 0:20:56.440 --> 0:20:58.560 so late to this, but like one of my favorite 0:20:58.560 --> 0:21:01.120 things I've listened to is such a long fucking time, 0:21:01.320 --> 0:21:03.280 Like I don't know if you would love it, Rose, 0:21:03.320 --> 0:21:07.080 because it is like quintessential pots and pants, like Pete, 0:21:07.160 --> 0:21:12.720 like insane, like Sophie Sophie time, PCP like noise music, 0:21:13.000 --> 0:21:17.399 not PCP PC PC noise PC noise. 0:21:17.480 --> 0:21:21.920 Yeah, girl, I mean I I was there at the beginning. 0:21:21.480 --> 0:21:26.080 And I was there when the scrolls were I was there. 0:21:28.000 --> 0:21:30.360 Please listen to the album and then we'll discuss. 0:21:30.080 --> 0:21:33.840 The other time. Let's talk about something slightly less homoerotic 0:21:33.880 --> 0:21:37.080 than Melcy half Man. 0:21:38.800 --> 0:21:39.760 I told you to watch this. 0:21:40.520 --> 0:21:44.000 Watch it was it was like I knew that it 0:21:44.080 --> 0:21:46.639 was happening, and I planned to watch it when it 0:21:46.680 --> 0:21:48.760 came out, but I didn't know that it had started. 0:21:48.840 --> 0:21:51.200 So like you reminded me of that because I did 0:21:51.200 --> 0:21:54.040 watch Baby Reindeer. I think we maybe talked about it. 0:21:54.160 --> 0:21:58.879 Did you watch it? Yeah as well? Yeah, and it's 0:21:58.920 --> 0:22:03.040 you're right, It's was so extremely my shit. It is 0:22:03.160 --> 0:22:10.679 so like a virgin core toxic, toxic, homo erotic, you know, 0:22:11.359 --> 0:22:18.679 flashback storytelling young gay guys in love, old gay guys 0:22:18.680 --> 0:22:21.760 in love beating each other up. One of them, one 0:22:21.760 --> 0:22:25.359 of them looks like every man who's ever messaged me 0:22:25.400 --> 0:22:28.959 on grinder. I'm talking about Richard gadd. He's just like, 0:22:29.600 --> 0:22:32.399 it's so right that he was a chaser and Baby 0:22:32.440 --> 0:22:35.480 Reindeer because he just looks like he's such a chaser, 0:22:35.600 --> 0:22:38.600 Like he looks like a chaser, exactly like a chaser, 0:22:39.080 --> 0:22:44.280 especially especially a European chaser. Let me tell you, half Man, 0:22:44.560 --> 0:22:48.840 Richard Goad's half man on HBO Max is literally prestige 0:22:49.400 --> 0:22:54.639 stepbrother porn like his family dick, but elevated. Yes it is. 0:22:54.720 --> 0:22:57.960 I mean it is like slightly soapy like the Sometimes 0:22:57.960 --> 0:23:01.320 this script is like very like river Dale melodrama, but 0:23:01.480 --> 0:23:04.040 like I half man. 0:23:03.920 --> 0:23:07.080