1
00:00:03,160 --> 00:00:05,400
Speaker 1: You were tuned to live cover each of the twenty

2
00:00:05,480 --> 00:00:13,600
Speaker 1: twenty three NFL COMBA on Steelers National Radio. Welcome to

3
00:00:13,680 --> 00:00:17,480
Speaker 1: the Drive by him Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson,

4
00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:21,160
Speaker 1: and it is day three here at the NFL Scouting

5
00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:25,200
Speaker 1: Combine here at the Indiana Convention Center in Indianapolis. A

6
00:00:25,239 --> 00:00:29,480
Speaker 1: lot of Indians there, there is, but that's in Indiana. Yeah. Uh, Matt.

7
00:00:29,520 --> 00:00:34,800
Speaker 1: Got a chance this morning to see the defensive backs. Yeah.

8
00:00:34,840 --> 00:00:36,840
Speaker 1: I like to just walk around and put eyes on everything,

9
00:00:37,120 --> 00:00:41,400
Speaker 1: especially with this corner class. The safeties were also impressive

10
00:00:41,440 --> 00:00:43,840
Speaker 1: in terms of their size, a lot of big dudes.

11
00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,680
Speaker 1: Yeah uh yeah. Just an interesting little thing here. Of

12
00:00:46,720 --> 00:00:48,920
Speaker 1: course we heard, you know, I sat up front of

13
00:00:49,479 --> 00:00:52,400
Speaker 1: for Christian Gonzalees and then Joey Porter Jr. Was at

14
00:00:52,400 --> 00:00:54,520
Speaker 1: the same podium, so I didn't have to move and

15
00:00:54,560 --> 00:00:56,400
Speaker 1: I was right there for both of those. Both of

16
00:00:56,400 --> 00:01:00,160
Speaker 1: those looked apart. They both very much left a part. Yeah. Yeah,

17
00:01:00,160 --> 00:01:02,560
Speaker 1: two very impressive guys and two guys that are probably

18
00:01:02,600 --> 00:01:05,960
Speaker 1: going to be strongly considered or hope they're there. You

19
00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:08,080
Speaker 1: would think that there are two guys that are that

20
00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:13,119
Speaker 1: are in that range of in the mix seventeen or higher. Yes,

21
00:01:14,200 --> 00:01:16,880
Speaker 1: I worry or good for him. I can see Gonzalas

22
00:01:16,920 --> 00:01:19,119
Speaker 1: going six. Yeah you know what I mean. I think

23
00:01:19,120 --> 00:01:21,160
Speaker 1: that's into cards. Yeah, we'll see what happened to those

24
00:01:21,200 --> 00:01:24,440
Speaker 1: guys when they test, and uh, you know, that's all

25
00:01:24,480 --> 00:01:27,600
Speaker 1: part of the process here. But they're very impressive looking

26
00:01:27,640 --> 00:01:31,720
Speaker 1: athletes and uh again two young men who handled themselves well.

27
00:01:31,720 --> 00:01:35,800
Speaker 1: They were getting a lot of questions thrown at them.

28
00:01:35,800 --> 00:01:38,400
Speaker 1: Both of them have the bloodlines. Yeah, people don't know

29
00:01:38,440 --> 00:01:41,399
Speaker 1: that about Gonzales I think, but correct me if I'm wrong,

30
00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,840
Speaker 1: But I think his sisters an olympian. His other sisters

31
00:01:44,880 --> 00:01:47,800
Speaker 1: also a track star. Yeah, mom was a track star, right,

32
00:01:47,840 --> 00:01:53,960
Speaker 1: and I think dad plays. Yeah. It's pretty good. Yeah,

33
00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,960
Speaker 1: not bad. Yeah, so you know, different kinds of bloodlines there,

34
00:01:58,000 --> 00:02:00,600
Speaker 1: but certainly, uh, you know, two guys that are going

35
00:02:00,640 --> 00:02:03,880
Speaker 1: to be very intriguing in this draft. Also, I said

36
00:02:03,920 --> 00:02:06,600
Speaker 1: in on some of the safety you know, it happened

37
00:02:06,600 --> 00:02:08,440
Speaker 1: to find your your boy Brian Branch and I didn't

38
00:02:08,440 --> 00:02:10,799
Speaker 1: see him over Okay, okay, I was curious how I'm

39
00:02:10,800 --> 00:02:13,040
Speaker 1: sure he came across well, but I didn't hear anything.

40
00:02:13,320 --> 00:02:15,200
Speaker 1: But yeah, I heard a lot of the different safeties

41
00:02:15,480 --> 00:02:17,200
Speaker 1: you know, the Penn State Ji here Brown. Yeah, Yeah,

42
00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:19,679
Speaker 1: that's a big week for him. It's like seventeen takeaways

43
00:02:19,680 --> 00:02:22,160
Speaker 1: in college. Right now, I'm really productive. I'm warming up

44
00:02:22,160 --> 00:02:23,400
Speaker 1: to him a lot too, the more I find out

45
00:02:23,400 --> 00:02:25,519
Speaker 1: about him. Yeah, so there's there's a lot to like there.

46
00:02:25,800 --> 00:02:28,720
Speaker 1: I mean, the secondary class I think is really intriguing. Yeah.

47
00:02:28,760 --> 00:02:30,280
Speaker 1: I think you get a lot of help here. It

48
00:02:30,280 --> 00:02:32,760
Speaker 1: wouldn't shock me if they took two guys from the secondary,

49
00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,440
Speaker 1: you know, somewhat high. In fact, I've listening to Sidney

50
00:02:35,480 --> 00:02:39,240
Speaker 1: Brown's interview the Illinois Kid and rave about him as

51
00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:41,760
Speaker 1: a human being, him and his brother. Yeah, and uh,

52
00:02:41,800 --> 00:02:44,000
Speaker 1: you know, somebody yelled out some of the comps on

53
00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:49,400
Speaker 1: you or Troy Paulamalo really okay, Yeah, that's nice as

54
00:02:49,440 --> 00:02:52,560
Speaker 1: good as any Speaking of which, I had just heard

55
00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:55,720
Speaker 1: that Branch patterns his game after Troy. Yeah, he's ad

56
00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,160
Speaker 1: Troy and Cam Chancellor were two of his his favorites,

57
00:02:58,240 --> 00:02:59,920
Speaker 1: you know. Yeah, so I think he's a little more verse,

58
00:03:00,120 --> 00:03:02,640
Speaker 1: well choice, pretty versatile, you know it, Cam chance but

59
00:03:02,880 --> 00:03:05,040
Speaker 1: more than just a box guy. Yeah, And I think

60
00:03:05,080 --> 00:03:07,079
Speaker 1: that's what you have to be at that position now

61
00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,560
Speaker 1: in today's NFL playing you better be able to yeah,

62
00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:13,480
Speaker 1: amongst other things. Yeah, yeah, line up in the slot

63
00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:17,320
Speaker 1: and cover receivers, not just a tight end. Oh yeah,

64
00:03:17,320 --> 00:03:19,200
Speaker 1: you're gonna get the Welkers and Ingram's and all those

65
00:03:19,200 --> 00:03:21,799
Speaker 1: guys and stuff like that too. The beauty and in between. Yeah, yeah,

66
00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,720
Speaker 1: it's the beauty of what they're doing in the college game.

67
00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:27,280
Speaker 1: And you see it trickling down to the NFL here

68
00:03:27,320 --> 00:03:29,280
Speaker 1: because again you have to be able to defend the

69
00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:32,640
Speaker 1: spread offenses in college. Oh yeah, and not to mention

70
00:03:32,680 --> 00:03:35,520
Speaker 1: that there's a great running back. Running backs get used

71
00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:37,160
Speaker 1: a lot more in the passing game in the in

72
00:03:37,200 --> 00:03:39,800
Speaker 1: the league than they do up there. Tight ends as well.

73
00:03:40,240 --> 00:03:43,320
Speaker 1: There's receivers galore. I mean you mentioned in the college level,

74
00:03:43,320 --> 00:03:45,840
Speaker 1: you'll see a lot of four wide. The hash marks

75
00:03:45,840 --> 00:03:47,920
Speaker 1: are so strange, and sometimes you have that huge wide

76
00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:49,640
Speaker 1: area the field you to defend, Like, boy, I got

77
00:03:49,680 --> 00:03:51,480
Speaker 1: a lot of area to cover here, you know. Yeah,

78
00:03:51,560 --> 00:03:54,400
Speaker 1: just to correct one thing we talked yesterday about how

79
00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:58,120
Speaker 1: the inner or the on field stuff would start yesterday,

80
00:03:58,160 --> 00:04:00,880
Speaker 1: what actually starts tonight. Yeah, we screwed up, But we

81
00:04:00,960 --> 00:04:02,640
Speaker 1: do make mistakes here every once in a while. There's

82
00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:04,680
Speaker 1: just so much going on coming on in an hour, right,

83
00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:07,440
Speaker 1: Sorry to keep track of everything that's happening out here.

84
00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:11,120
Speaker 1: I do know that the Steelers are scheduled to have

85
00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:15,960
Speaker 1: some guys on the field working some of their coaching staffs.

86
00:04:15,960 --> 00:04:17,520
Speaker 1: So Carl Dumbar is going to be working with the

87
00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:21,840
Speaker 1: defensive lineman. Good, Grady Brown is going to be working

88
00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:25,440
Speaker 1: with the defensive backs, Frisman Jackson will be working with

89
00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:29,280
Speaker 1: the wide receivers, and then they'll have some offensive line

90
00:04:29,279 --> 00:04:32,120
Speaker 1: work there possibly as well. So good, Okay, I don't

91
00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:33,960
Speaker 1: think it's nearly the advantage. It is like at the

92
00:04:34,000 --> 00:04:35,599
Speaker 1: Senior Bowl, where you spend a whole week with them

93
00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:37,920
Speaker 1: and behind the scenes, but still you're gonna hear things

94
00:04:38,000 --> 00:04:40,159
Speaker 1: under your breath or you know, be right there next

95
00:04:40,160 --> 00:04:42,520
Speaker 1: so it's certainly an advantage. Well, you know, here's what

96
00:04:42,640 --> 00:04:45,640
Speaker 1: I want to see if i'm first of all, you

97
00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,480
Speaker 1: want to see how they move on field, and you're

98
00:04:47,480 --> 00:04:50,240
Speaker 1: gonna get that that. Look, how do they interact with

99
00:04:50,279 --> 00:04:52,760
Speaker 1: the other guys. Who's the alpha dog, who's the alpha

100
00:04:52,880 --> 00:04:55,080
Speaker 1: of the alpha's, who wants to stop to run to

101
00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,960
Speaker 1: the front of the line, and yeah, who everyone kind

102
00:04:56,960 --> 00:04:59,080
Speaker 1: of responds to or you know, gets everyone moving it

103
00:04:59,440 --> 00:05:01,880
Speaker 1: because energy is a big thing there. Of course they're

104
00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,240
Speaker 1: they're brebbed up, but they've had a long week before

105
00:05:04,279 --> 00:05:06,440
Speaker 1: they finally get on the field. We think about, you know,

106
00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:08,760
Speaker 1: how long the day is before you get on the

107
00:05:08,760 --> 00:05:10,839
Speaker 1: field to work out. I know, it's almost unfair, like

108
00:05:10,839 --> 00:05:12,680
Speaker 1: you don't get to sleep in here. No, and at

109
00:05:12,720 --> 00:05:15,080
Speaker 1: least they're not starting drills at six or seven at night.

110
00:05:15,080 --> 00:05:17,080
Speaker 1: At least's three. Now it's a little bit better, but

111
00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:18,880
Speaker 1: still that's a long day. It's not like, hey, I'm

112
00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:20,400
Speaker 1: gonna take a nap at noon and they don't let

113
00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:25,120
Speaker 1: you do that. Yeah, so we'll see some of the

114
00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,360
Speaker 1: defensive linemen get out there tonight. I think it's gonna

115
00:05:27,360 --> 00:05:30,840
Speaker 1: be interesting. And then I guess tomorrow we'll get to

116
00:05:30,839 --> 00:05:34,280
Speaker 1: see the defensive backs. Yeah, all the safeties and corners. Yes,

117
00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:36,400
Speaker 1: so it's gonna be you know, things start to heat up.

118
00:05:36,440 --> 00:05:38,960
Speaker 1: I think the quarterbacks are slated to get here and

119
00:05:38,960 --> 00:05:42,000
Speaker 1: talk tomorrow. No, okay, that's obviously a highlight, and then

120
00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:44,600
Speaker 1: they'll work. They'll do their on field stuff on Saturday.

121
00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:46,359
Speaker 1: But we knock about the whole front seven to night.

122
00:05:46,480 --> 00:05:47,960
Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's a big deal. That's a big deal.

123
00:05:48,480 --> 00:05:52,880
Speaker 1: I think that's in this draft. Um, we're just talking

124
00:05:52,880 --> 00:05:55,080
Speaker 1: about it a little bit there. I think the front

125
00:05:55,120 --> 00:05:58,279
Speaker 1: four guys, you know, your edge rushers in defensive lineman

126
00:05:58,720 --> 00:06:02,680
Speaker 1: and then your secondary might be the two strongest positions

127
00:06:02,680 --> 00:06:05,919
Speaker 1: in this draft. M I'm a big fan of the

128
00:06:05,920 --> 00:06:08,359
Speaker 1: tight ends, but that's just a one position on the

129
00:06:08,360 --> 00:06:12,280
Speaker 1: field as opposed to four. There's not as much tight ends,

130
00:06:12,360 --> 00:06:14,600
Speaker 1: is It's nice having all these tight ends right right,

131
00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:18,680
Speaker 1: Like everybody wants defensive backs, everybody wants defensive or edge rushers.

132
00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:20,800
Speaker 1: That's a good point. I think it is a very

133
00:06:20,880 --> 00:06:24,440
Speaker 1: deep class across the board for the guys front line,

134
00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:26,960
Speaker 1: back line. Yeah, that's a good point, and I wonder

135
00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:29,640
Speaker 1: if that's because of where the game is going as well.

136
00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:31,960
Speaker 1: Maybe maybe I just think it's a little bit of

137
00:06:31,960 --> 00:06:34,640
Speaker 1: an unusual corner class that there's so many six foot

138
00:06:34,680 --> 00:06:38,000
Speaker 1: ish type guys that are all in the top fifty mix. Yeah.

139
00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,120
Speaker 1: I don't know why that is, but it seems like

140
00:06:40,160 --> 00:06:42,000
Speaker 1: a real trend for this one. Well. So I think

141
00:06:42,040 --> 00:06:44,960
Speaker 1: it's a natural progression because in previous years we've seen

142
00:06:45,000 --> 00:06:47,920
Speaker 1: so many wide receivers. You need somebody to cover those

143
00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:52,040
Speaker 1: guys absolutely, absolutely, and I don't know, I'm spitballing here,

144
00:06:52,080 --> 00:06:54,479
Speaker 1: but if I'm a sixteen year old, seventeen year old

145
00:06:54,640 --> 00:06:57,640
Speaker 1: six foot one hundred and ninety pound guy, and I'm

146
00:06:57,640 --> 00:07:00,200
Speaker 1: a good corner, I'm a good wide receiver, maybe there

147
00:07:00,279 --> 00:07:02,559
Speaker 1: was less an easier path to getting on the field

148
00:07:02,560 --> 00:07:05,240
Speaker 1: at my new college at corner. So I stuck with it,

149
00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:07,240
Speaker 1: you know, because so many receivers in the league right now. Well,

150
00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,159
Speaker 1: that's the other thing I've noticed about a lot of

151
00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,560
Speaker 1: these guys. You see more positions switching, and now at

152
00:07:12,560 --> 00:07:14,920
Speaker 1: the college level. I think that maybe the college switching,

153
00:07:14,920 --> 00:07:17,280
Speaker 1: but there's positions switching, yeah, more than ever. Right, This

154
00:07:17,320 --> 00:07:21,000
Speaker 1: guy's you know, I talked to Zarah for the Washington

155
00:07:21,040 --> 00:07:27,400
Speaker 1: States linebacker yesterday, no kind of day on the yeah, Henley, Henley, Yeah.

156
00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:30,080
Speaker 1: And he was a tight end that moved to off

157
00:07:30,120 --> 00:07:32,880
Speaker 1: ball linebacker. Really, you know, that's interesting. I mean, he

158
00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:34,560
Speaker 1: doesn't look like a tight end to me, but maybe

159
00:07:34,560 --> 00:07:36,600
Speaker 1: he was a Connor Hayward type, right, you know, right right.

160
00:07:37,280 --> 00:07:39,200
Speaker 1: I've mentioned this many times, but like a trick and

161
00:07:39,200 --> 00:07:42,000
Speaker 1: recruiting we used to do is bringing five running backs

162
00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:43,720
Speaker 1: in a class, and one of them was like one

163
00:07:43,800 --> 00:07:45,600
Speaker 1: hundred ninety pounds, but he ran a four to three.

164
00:07:45,680 --> 00:07:47,600
Speaker 1: Well he might be a corner or safety, you know,

165
00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:49,920
Speaker 1: one of them's two thirty. Well he might be my

166
00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:52,400
Speaker 1: next linebacker or you know. So they were always the

167
00:07:52,400 --> 00:07:54,080
Speaker 1: best players on the field. Just bringing a bunch of

168
00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:56,240
Speaker 1: athletes that are good football players and maybe you teach

169
00:07:56,320 --> 00:08:00,280
Speaker 1: them later. Yeah. So yeah, West almost stepped in front

170
00:08:00,320 --> 00:08:02,920
Speaker 1: of the camera there, And I should say that. This

171
00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:05,520
Speaker 1: week we're giving Steelers Nation even more ways to consume

172
00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,960
Speaker 1: SNR Drive content at the annual Scouting Combine. You can

173
00:08:09,000 --> 00:08:11,640
Speaker 1: listen to us live here each day from two to

174
00:08:11,680 --> 00:08:14,760
Speaker 1: four pm on SNR. You can also get our programs

175
00:08:14,800 --> 00:08:17,840
Speaker 1: as usual on demand where you get all your favorite podcasts,

176
00:08:18,200 --> 00:08:20,960
Speaker 1: but this week you can also watch us. Yeah how

177
00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,760
Speaker 1: about that? Uh and uh, you know, so where be

178
00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:25,320
Speaker 1: the last day for that? Though? This will be the

179
00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,160
Speaker 1: last day for that our shows. You can listen to

180
00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:29,560
Speaker 1: or watch the show here on radio each day on

181
00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:33,080
Speaker 1: the Steelers YouTube channel that's live on SNR, through our

182
00:08:33,120 --> 00:08:36,200
Speaker 1: podcast and on the Steelers YouTube page. And again, if

183
00:08:36,240 --> 00:08:38,160
Speaker 1: you haven't checked out the Steelers YouTube page, if you

184
00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:40,480
Speaker 1: haven't subscribed to that, jump on that. Now. You got

185
00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,080
Speaker 1: to get on that now and make sure you subscribe

186
00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:45,880
Speaker 1: to the Steelers YouTube channel. Lots of good video stuff there,

187
00:08:45,880 --> 00:08:50,400
Speaker 1: looks back, looks forward, interviews with current players, former players,

188
00:08:50,440 --> 00:08:53,240
Speaker 1: all kinds of good stuff on their West's getting a

189
00:08:53,280 --> 00:08:55,079
Speaker 1: kick out earlier. I guess that there's been a lot

190
00:08:55,120 --> 00:08:58,680
Speaker 1: of photos of current Steelers at their combine. Yeah, you know,

191
00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:00,600
Speaker 1: the kind of a throwback thing and how much younger

192
00:09:00,640 --> 00:09:02,360
Speaker 1: they look and you don't know what team they're going

193
00:09:02,400 --> 00:09:04,760
Speaker 1: to at that point, and interesting stuff. That's always funny.

194
00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:08,880
Speaker 1: You know. We'll be uh watching the workouts tonight heavily, heavily,

195
00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,400
Speaker 1: and then you kind of sit there and you think

196
00:09:10,760 --> 00:09:12,520
Speaker 1: that guy looks like a Steeler. Yeah, if it's the

197
00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,560
Speaker 1: old fits the mold, and uh yeah, that's that's one

198
00:09:15,559 --> 00:09:17,559
Speaker 1: of the things we keep an eye on as we

199
00:09:17,600 --> 00:09:21,920
Speaker 1: sit here. Um, the workouts are more open this year,

200
00:09:22,240 --> 00:09:24,440
Speaker 1: Like if we wanted to go over and watch the

201
00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:28,160
Speaker 1: workouts in the stadium, we could do so. Yeah, Um,

202
00:09:28,200 --> 00:09:30,439
Speaker 1: I don't know that. I'm so no, I'm not either much.

203
00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:32,480
Speaker 1: I think I'd rather do it watch it on TV.

204
00:09:32,600 --> 00:09:35,080
Speaker 1: That's what I'm used to right now. I wouldn't mind

205
00:09:35,120 --> 00:09:38,120
Speaker 1: being there, it's just it's so I'm recording them all

206
00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,200
Speaker 1: at home. I'll pass forward through them all after but

207
00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:42,439
Speaker 1: I'd love to sit somewhere tonight and just watch them

208
00:09:42,440 --> 00:09:44,680
Speaker 1: on TV and react organically and see how it goes,

209
00:09:44,760 --> 00:09:46,960
Speaker 1: you know, right, Yeah, and maybe have a fine meal

210
00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,560
Speaker 1: or two. Yeah, I have something to eat while watch

211
00:09:49,720 --> 00:09:52,480
Speaker 1: and watch it at your leisure. Indeed, yes, come, I'll

212
00:09:52,480 --> 00:09:55,960
Speaker 1: grind it, you know. Yeah. UM should mention as well

213
00:09:55,960 --> 00:09:59,120
Speaker 1: that our triple takes will start next week, right, triple

214
00:09:59,400 --> 00:10:01,600
Speaker 1: think I gonna writ my running backs up tonight. I

215
00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:03,000
Speaker 1: hope you do, so you can send it to me

216
00:10:03,000 --> 00:10:05,319
Speaker 1: and I can merge all the quarterbacks are done. I

217
00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:06,840
Speaker 1: think I gonna do my running backs when we're done here.

218
00:10:06,840 --> 00:10:09,240
Speaker 1: I have Mike pursued his quarterbacks and running backs beat

219
00:10:09,360 --> 00:10:11,320
Speaker 1: on my laptop right now. I have mine on there

220
00:10:11,320 --> 00:10:13,839
Speaker 1: as well. Okay, I'm just waiting on you. Okay, I

221
00:10:13,880 --> 00:10:16,320
Speaker 1: was waiting on combine heights and weights. But I guess

222
00:10:16,320 --> 00:10:18,240
Speaker 1: there's no We can always fill them in afterwards. All right.

223
00:10:18,440 --> 00:10:20,679
Speaker 1: I've had my I mean trying to brag, but I've

224
00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:22,480
Speaker 1: had my quarterbacks done for like a week and a half.

225
00:10:23,720 --> 00:10:28,520
Speaker 1: Aren't at home. I don't love the class, by the way, No,

226
00:10:28,640 --> 00:10:30,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a big I'm not a huge fan of

227
00:10:30,040 --> 00:10:31,760
Speaker 1: the quarterback class. I gotta tell you, I think I'll

228
00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:33,160
Speaker 1: be a lot higher on the running backs. I think

229
00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:36,120
Speaker 1: that's a good group. Yeah, figuring out the top five there,

230
00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:37,800
Speaker 1: there's a lot more to pick from. I think we're

231
00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:39,760
Speaker 1: gonna have a little more variance there too. Yeah, we

232
00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:41,080
Speaker 1: may not have the same order, but I bet we

233
00:10:41,080 --> 00:10:44,160
Speaker 1: have the same five quarterbacks. Yeah. Maybe mckey's in there.

234
00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,640
Speaker 1: He isn't for me, but I think the top five

235
00:10:46,679 --> 00:10:48,960
Speaker 1: are pretty set. Yeah, it's gonna be interesting in some

236
00:10:49,000 --> 00:10:53,440
Speaker 1: of these, Like when we do our top five edge rushers, right,

237
00:10:53,960 --> 00:10:55,240
Speaker 1: all five of those guys are gonna go in the

238
00:10:55,280 --> 00:10:59,000
Speaker 1: first round. Absolutely, trying to think maybe corners as well.

239
00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:02,560
Speaker 1: Corners is probably similar. Yeah, usually that's receivers. I don't

240
00:11:02,559 --> 00:11:04,480
Speaker 1: know if it'll go five deep that are in the

241
00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:07,559
Speaker 1: top forty mix. Yeah, maybe four you know that are

242
00:11:07,559 --> 00:11:10,240
Speaker 1: guaranteed in that neighborhood, all five quarterbacks go at the

243
00:11:10,240 --> 00:11:15,280
Speaker 1: first row. No, Herndon won't. Herndon Hooker's hooker by five.

244
00:11:15,400 --> 00:11:18,000
Speaker 1: I think four guaranteed and more and more. I think

245
00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,199
Speaker 1: there's four guaranteed to be gone by the Steelers pick

246
00:11:20,240 --> 00:11:21,760
Speaker 1: That's what I was just gonna ask for all four

247
00:11:21,880 --> 00:11:24,480
Speaker 1: gone before the steel because that's Steeler fans, that's what

248
00:11:24,520 --> 00:11:27,920
Speaker 1: you want. You want those quarterbacks to all go. You

249
00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:31,440
Speaker 1: want Bijean Robinson to go before the Steelers pick. Yeah,

250
00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:34,240
Speaker 1: things you're not necessarily interested in, you want to you know,

251
00:11:34,440 --> 00:11:37,000
Speaker 1: everybody else could shop in that aisle. Yeah, and even

252
00:11:37,000 --> 00:11:38,960
Speaker 1: some of these edge rushers you mentioned. Yeah, I don't

253
00:11:38,960 --> 00:11:41,559
Speaker 1: know that edges in the mix at seventeen, right, you know,

254
00:11:41,640 --> 00:11:43,200
Speaker 1: so if you could let three or four those off

255
00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,480
Speaker 1: the board, now you start. So that's the way you

256
00:11:46,520 --> 00:11:48,160
Speaker 1: need to look at this when you're when you're putting

257
00:11:48,200 --> 00:11:52,559
Speaker 1: together potential Steeler picks. So if you take four quarterbacks

258
00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,960
Speaker 1: off the board, right, that leaves me thirteen guys. Yeah,

259
00:11:56,040 --> 00:11:58,240
Speaker 1: Let's say one of the tight ends goes up there, right,

260
00:11:59,040 --> 00:12:02,560
Speaker 1: that's five, or Bijan and that's seven. I can count.

261
00:12:02,760 --> 00:12:06,800
Speaker 1: That's six. If let's say four of those edge rushers go, well,

262
00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,200
Speaker 1: now you're up to ten. You're up to ten. I

263
00:12:09,240 --> 00:12:11,520
Speaker 1: think there's a real good chance three corners, three tackles,

264
00:12:12,080 --> 00:12:15,200
Speaker 1: So that's sixteen, right, I think there's a strong chance

265
00:12:15,920 --> 00:12:18,920
Speaker 1: a receiver, all right, that's seventeen I mean like John

266
00:12:19,000 --> 00:12:22,079
Speaker 1: Datson was gone at this point last year, right amongst others,

267
00:12:22,320 --> 00:12:25,920
Speaker 1: and some of these guys are comfortable to those guys. Yeah, uh,

268
00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,680
Speaker 1: that might be about it. Though, maybe a Torrance does

269
00:12:29,720 --> 00:12:32,640
Speaker 1: Brian Branch go or Safety I say, maybe Branch or

270
00:12:32,720 --> 00:12:36,160
Speaker 1: Breezy maybe, you know, I don't think a fourth corner

271
00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,719
Speaker 1: could go. No, I don't think so either. I think

272
00:12:38,760 --> 00:12:41,360
Speaker 1: somebody could run themselves into that this week. They might

273
00:12:41,400 --> 00:12:44,319
Speaker 1: be a consideration, or they would feel comfortable at seventeen

274
00:12:44,320 --> 00:12:46,120
Speaker 1: where we thought would rather have him at twenty two.

275
00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,760
Speaker 1: You know, that could happen, But that's the that's what

276
00:12:48,760 --> 00:12:50,640
Speaker 1: you're looking at. I mean, maybe even higher number edge

277
00:12:50,679 --> 00:12:52,000
Speaker 1: rushers and more. I think that it could be more

278
00:12:52,000 --> 00:12:54,040
Speaker 1: than four, or the Murphy's and all those guys too.

279
00:12:54,200 --> 00:12:57,240
Speaker 1: So yes, if it's five, you really like that, Yeah,

280
00:12:57,280 --> 00:12:59,040
Speaker 1: that would be ideal. And I could see that. I

281
00:12:59,080 --> 00:13:01,839
Speaker 1: don't think that's crazy. And tomorrow we might be like, oh,

282
00:13:01,880 --> 00:13:03,440
Speaker 1: there's gonna be five. Do you see these guys testing

283
00:13:03,559 --> 00:13:05,480
Speaker 1: last night? Right? Yeah, that wouldn't blow me away either.

284
00:13:05,559 --> 00:13:07,760
Speaker 1: So yeah, I mean so if you're a Steelers fan,

285
00:13:07,920 --> 00:13:10,400
Speaker 1: that's what you want to happen. You want those guys

286
00:13:10,840 --> 00:13:16,120
Speaker 1: to do well here and solidify themselves as top fifteen picks.

287
00:13:16,320 --> 00:13:18,719
Speaker 1: Back the quarterbacks real quick. I mean we just kind

288
00:13:18,720 --> 00:13:20,920
Speaker 1: of threw out we think four are gone by seventeen.

289
00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:24,720
Speaker 1: I think the Panthers picked nine. Yes, I think four

290
00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:28,640
Speaker 1: gone before ten. Yes, I'm much sure the order are aware.

291
00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:30,959
Speaker 1: But there's so many teams in the mix. I was

292
00:13:31,000 --> 00:13:32,800
Speaker 1: over there doing a hit with the Colts and they're like,

293
00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,320
Speaker 1: we're worried to like be gone by four, right, which

294
00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,200
Speaker 1: is a really good chance. And then if that's the case,

295
00:13:38,480 --> 00:13:41,560
Speaker 1: the Raiders and Panthers, Panthers are sitting there going do

296
00:13:41,600 --> 00:13:43,720
Speaker 1: we have to move up to get one of people? Absolutely?

297
00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:46,200
Speaker 1: I think that might be the case. So it's it's

298
00:13:46,240 --> 00:13:49,920
Speaker 1: such a strange difference from last year when the Steelers

299
00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:53,320
Speaker 1: just held pat and got their quarterback at twenty right.

300
00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:56,520
Speaker 1: It makes it even more unique. You know that there

301
00:13:56,600 --> 00:13:58,800
Speaker 1: was we didn't know as much then as we do now.

302
00:13:58,840 --> 00:14:00,760
Speaker 1: Of course, you know, we would he thought there's a

303
00:14:00,800 --> 00:14:02,400
Speaker 1: chance Willis would be the first one off the board.

304
00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:04,640
Speaker 1: I mean, knowing what we knew then put ourselves in

305
00:14:04,720 --> 00:14:08,280
Speaker 1: no shoes. But it didn't seem confident that you could

306
00:14:08,280 --> 00:14:10,080
Speaker 1: just sit there and we'll wait for nineteen picks to

307
00:14:10,080 --> 00:14:12,960
Speaker 1: go and be like, we'll still get our pick of quarterbacks. Like, oh, well,

308
00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:15,120
Speaker 1: that doesn't happen very often. It doesn't happen ever. No,

309
00:14:15,880 --> 00:14:18,800
Speaker 1: obviously last year it happened, but it rarely happens that.

310
00:14:19,120 --> 00:14:21,560
Speaker 1: You know, no quarterbacks are taken in the top ten. Right,

311
00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:24,480
Speaker 1: last year was just a perfect storm. Yeah, yeah it was.

312
00:14:24,760 --> 00:14:27,760
Speaker 1: And another thing about this draft is if you look

313
00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,720
Speaker 1: at just blue chip players, I don't see a ton

314
00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:32,400
Speaker 1: of them. You have to be honest with you that

315
00:14:32,480 --> 00:14:35,080
Speaker 1: we have to this d diamond or this edge or

316
00:14:35,080 --> 00:14:37,200
Speaker 1: whatever is just so good that I'm gonna pass on

317
00:14:37,200 --> 00:14:40,800
Speaker 1: a quarterback. So that brings me to like the Seahawks,

318
00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,480
Speaker 1: who I think will resign Geno, and the Lions because

319
00:14:44,680 --> 00:14:47,440
Speaker 1: both those teams are trending upwards. They're both really young.

320
00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:49,960
Speaker 1: I think they're ahead of the curve for their rebuild.

321
00:14:50,200 --> 00:14:53,000
Speaker 1: They both have two first round picks. The Lions also

322
00:14:53,080 --> 00:14:55,480
Speaker 1: have the Viking second round er. Yeah, I wouldn't be shot.

323
00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,800
Speaker 1: I think Seattle has another mid round pick or two.

324
00:14:58,760 --> 00:15:01,720
Speaker 1: I think if I'm them, I grabbed one of these quarterbacks,

325
00:15:01,720 --> 00:15:04,520
Speaker 1: possibly because I look at it like if I'm ascending

326
00:15:04,600 --> 00:15:06,400
Speaker 1: I'm not going to be in the top ten likely

327
00:15:06,560 --> 00:15:10,440
Speaker 1: going forward. I can Anthony Richardson could wait behind Geno

328
00:15:10,560 --> 00:15:14,320
Speaker 1: or Golf. And you know, so the obvious candidates that

329
00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:16,120
Speaker 1: don't have a quarterback are going to be in the mix,

330
00:15:16,160 --> 00:15:19,240
Speaker 1: the Carolinas, the Raiders, Colts, et cetera. Of course Houston.

331
00:15:19,760 --> 00:15:22,200
Speaker 1: But maybe if I'm one of those teams, now is

332
00:15:22,240 --> 00:15:25,560
Speaker 1: my last chance? Yeah? I think you like, look, if

333
00:15:25,560 --> 00:15:27,480
Speaker 1: you like one enough, that's gonna be just not to

334
00:15:27,520 --> 00:15:31,040
Speaker 1: take one. Yeah, it's gonna be. And you know the question, Uh,

335
00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:34,800
Speaker 1: that's what makes like an Anthony Richardson who is probably

336
00:15:34,800 --> 00:15:37,800
Speaker 1: gonna take some time to develop, right, You'll but you

337
00:15:37,840 --> 00:15:39,720
Speaker 1: look at the trades and go, okay, we can we

338
00:15:39,800 --> 00:15:42,160
Speaker 1: got time to let this guy develop. Yeah. I think

339
00:15:42,160 --> 00:15:45,680
Speaker 1: that's what Tennessee looked at last year with Willis. Absolutely,

340
00:15:45,760 --> 00:15:47,400
Speaker 1: you know they looked at, Okay, we've got Tanny Hill

341
00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:50,000
Speaker 1: under contract, we liked, we like him, we have a

342
00:15:50,080 --> 00:15:52,240
Speaker 1: running we have that, we have the time to let

343
00:15:52,600 --> 00:15:56,000
Speaker 1: Willis yeah develop, And now they have to make decision though,

344
00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:57,720
Speaker 1: I mean, are we gonna bring Tanny Hill back? Can

345
00:15:57,800 --> 00:15:59,600
Speaker 1: we just throw it all on Willis? After the little

346
00:15:59,600 --> 00:16:02,360
Speaker 1: we've seen of them, and clearly when they needed to

347
00:16:02,360 --> 00:16:04,880
Speaker 1: win games down the stretch, they trusted Dobbs, who wasn't

348
00:16:04,920 --> 00:16:06,960
Speaker 1: even on the team at this point and ahead of them.

349
00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:09,680
Speaker 1: So not that Willis is a failed experiment. But you

350
00:16:09,680 --> 00:16:12,160
Speaker 1: didn't learn a lot, right they probably? I mean they

351
00:16:12,240 --> 00:16:17,880
Speaker 1: learned a lot. They saw him every day in practice yesterday.

352
00:16:17,920 --> 00:16:19,760
Speaker 1: You know, you've you've spent the time with this guy.

353
00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,040
Speaker 1: You know what he can handle, what he can handle,

354
00:16:22,320 --> 00:16:24,240
Speaker 1: or you have a pretty good feel for that, right

355
00:16:24,440 --> 00:16:27,160
Speaker 1: Like Unfortunately for like Carolina, they don't. I mean, other

356
00:16:27,160 --> 00:16:29,320
Speaker 1: than the human being, they know nothing more about mcrow

357
00:16:29,520 --> 00:16:31,160
Speaker 1: you know, right, he was in the mix at this

358
00:16:31,160 --> 00:16:33,760
Speaker 1: point last year too. At least Atlanta has a real

359
00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:36,280
Speaker 1: good book on Ridder, right now. Yeah they played Yeah yeah,

360
00:16:36,320 --> 00:16:40,320
Speaker 1: just Washington really know as much about Sam how well

361
00:16:40,360 --> 00:16:42,480
Speaker 1: he played a game a game? It was fine? Yeah,

362
00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:45,440
Speaker 1: But I mean they can't possibly be confident with what

363
00:16:45,480 --> 00:16:48,120
Speaker 1: they're saying about, Oh, he's our guy, We're fine, you know,

364
00:16:48,200 --> 00:16:51,000
Speaker 1: like he's our guy. He's fine. If we bring in

365
00:16:51,080 --> 00:16:53,720
Speaker 1: Brissette their baker and see how that goes for a year.

366
00:16:53,800 --> 00:16:56,200
Speaker 1: But you can't have super high expectations. Yeah, you know,

367
00:16:56,280 --> 00:16:58,960
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, a little bit more about the person.

368
00:16:59,560 --> 00:17:03,480
Speaker 1: Oh but you don't know necessarily as much about the player, right, Yeah,

369
00:17:03,480 --> 00:17:06,000
Speaker 1: so man, obviously the Steelers are way ahead in the

370
00:17:06,040 --> 00:17:09,080
Speaker 1: curve of all the second your quarterbacks. Yeah, tis thou.

371
00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,040
Speaker 1: That's the beauty of it, right, that is the beauty

372
00:17:11,080 --> 00:17:13,760
Speaker 1: of it, Steeler fans. The Steelers media platforms are loaded

373
00:17:14,000 --> 00:17:17,800
Speaker 1: with great combine content all week long. Visit Steelers dot

374
00:17:17,840 --> 00:17:20,000
Speaker 1: com and the Steelers official mobile app to here, live

375
00:17:20,040 --> 00:17:23,280
Speaker 1: and on demand s and our audio content, exclusive one

376
00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,480
Speaker 1: on one video interviews with key decision makers, and daily

377
00:17:26,600 --> 00:17:31,480
Speaker 1: editorial coverage from yours Truly. The team also has a

378
00:17:31,520 --> 00:17:35,080
Speaker 1: great throwback Combine workout highlights on current Steelers for you

379
00:17:35,080 --> 00:17:37,880
Speaker 1: to check out. That's all this week on the Steelers

380
00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:40,399
Speaker 1: media platforms. Matt, We're gonna take a break. Here is

381
00:17:40,400 --> 00:17:43,240
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lally. You're listening to the

382
00:17:43,320 --> 00:17:46,320
Speaker 1: drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with

383
00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:52,639
Speaker 1: more right after this. You are tuned to live cover

384
00:17:52,680 --> 00:17:56,480
Speaker 1: each of the twenty twenty TWEE NFL Combine on Steelers

385
00:17:56,640 --> 00:18:01,560
Speaker 1: Nation Radio. Welcome back. I am Dale Lalley. He is

386
00:18:01,640 --> 00:18:03,840
Speaker 1: Matt Williams, and you're listening to the drive here on

387
00:18:03,920 --> 00:18:06,200
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radium. We're pleased to be joined out by

388
00:18:06,200 --> 00:18:13,440
Speaker 1: Tony Pauline of the Pro Football Network, And Tony, this

389
00:18:13,560 --> 00:18:17,439
Speaker 1: is like Christmas time for you, is it not? You know,

390
00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,040
Speaker 1: it's it's probably like the days before Christmas where you

391
00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,680
Speaker 1: got to wrap all your presence or you haven't done

392
00:18:21,680 --> 00:18:23,960
Speaker 1: any shopping and you're going crazy because what am I

393
00:18:23,960 --> 00:18:27,399
Speaker 1: gonna get my wife? Because literally, and it's funny you

394
00:18:27,440 --> 00:18:29,920
Speaker 1: say Christmas time because once the Christmas holidays are over

395
00:18:30,680 --> 00:18:33,760
Speaker 1: through the beginning of April, it's absolutely nuts. Yeah, you know,

396
00:18:33,960 --> 00:18:37,600
Speaker 1: Shrine Game, Senior Bowl combine, doing eight hundred reports. It's

397
00:18:37,640 --> 00:18:40,040
Speaker 1: actually like two weeks before the draft is kind of

398
00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:44,080
Speaker 1: the calm before the second storm, right, you know Christmas.

399
00:18:44,520 --> 00:18:46,480
Speaker 1: I guess it's the Christmas right, we're doing all the

400
00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:49,920
Speaker 1: sings between November and Christmas itself. Yeah, when you're doing

401
00:18:49,960 --> 00:18:53,320
Speaker 1: all the shop exactly exactly, because it just gets nuttier

402
00:18:53,359 --> 00:18:56,880
Speaker 1: each year. Noah, that makes sense. So Steelers pick a seventeen.

403
00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,560
Speaker 1: I'm gonna talk offensive tackles with you a little bit.

404
00:18:59,680 --> 00:19:04,359
Speaker 1: So on most boards, I don't know, haven't seen yours recently. Scronsky,

405
00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:08,520
Speaker 1: Johnson and Jones from Georgia the top three. Do you

406
00:19:08,600 --> 00:19:10,639
Speaker 1: agree with that? Do you have an order? Do you

407
00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 1: think there's any chance they're available at seventeen only? Jones, possible,

408
00:19:14,880 --> 00:19:19,359
Speaker 1: Io Johnson, Roderick Jones, Scronsky right now is on my

409
00:19:19,480 --> 00:19:21,879
Speaker 1: guard guard only because I want to see what his

410
00:19:21,920 --> 00:19:24,439
Speaker 1: measurements are reporting for a couple of months now. He

411
00:19:24,560 --> 00:19:26,960
Speaker 1: may not be six foot tall. There is questions about

412
00:19:27,000 --> 00:19:29,359
Speaker 1: his armlength. If his arm length's under thirty three inches,

413
00:19:29,480 --> 00:19:32,000
Speaker 1: you can forget about him being a left tackle. Maybe

414
00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:34,320
Speaker 1: some teams will view him as a right tackle. Right

415
00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:36,280
Speaker 1: now is my number one guard. I don't think Paris

416
00:19:36,359 --> 00:19:39,879
Speaker 1: Johnson is there, okay, Roderick Jones. I think the Washington

417
00:19:40,320 --> 00:19:42,600
Speaker 1: Commanders may actually scoop him up before. There's a couple

418
00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,879
Speaker 1: of spots that could gasually have the Steelers position. The

419
00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:49,439
Speaker 1: Jets needed an offensive lineman as well. Is gonna be

420
00:19:49,880 --> 00:19:53,040
Speaker 1: if he falls, it's because some sort of red flag

421
00:19:53,160 --> 00:19:56,520
Speaker 1: popped up him. Usually. Yeah, he's six four ish though,

422
00:19:56,720 --> 00:19:59,879
Speaker 1: and he's a small ye. He's a shorter tackle, but

423
00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:02,960
Speaker 1: he's very athletic. You watch the film. He's good for

424
00:20:03,200 --> 00:20:05,639
Speaker 1: his own blocking system. He can get out on the

425
00:20:05,680 --> 00:20:08,040
Speaker 1: second level and take out linebackers. There were times you

426
00:20:08,040 --> 00:20:09,800
Speaker 1: watched the film this year he was at twenty twenty

427
00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:13,479
Speaker 1: five yards downfield taking defensive backs and he's a good

428
00:20:13,480 --> 00:20:15,920
Speaker 1: pass blocker. It's gotta get a little bit stronger, younger guys.

429
00:20:15,920 --> 00:20:17,800
Speaker 1: Got to improve his round blocking, but that should come

430
00:20:17,840 --> 00:20:20,400
Speaker 1: as he physically matures and gets into an NFL weight

431
00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,960
Speaker 1: training programs. Scornsky out of your tackle mix. Do you

432
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:25,600
Speaker 1: have a clear number three or is there a bunch

433
00:20:25,600 --> 00:20:27,520
Speaker 1: of guys fighting for it? Well, I mean you got

434
00:20:27,600 --> 00:20:32,760
Speaker 1: Dwan Jones of Ohio State, you got Anton Harrison of Oklahoma,

435
00:20:33,320 --> 00:20:37,000
Speaker 1: Warren McClendon. But but it's a real drop off. Yeah,

436
00:20:37,000 --> 00:20:38,879
Speaker 1: there's a gap there between them. There's a gap between

437
00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:41,560
Speaker 1: Paris Johnson and Broderick Jones. And then there's another gap

438
00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:44,480
Speaker 1: between a bigger gap between Broderick Jones and that next

439
00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:46,439
Speaker 1: year of offensive tackle. Like I can't be in at

440
00:20:46,480 --> 00:20:49,840
Speaker 1: seventeen with those other ones. Yeah, yeah, I Dwan Jones,

441
00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,400
Speaker 1: that would be a major reek. But I mean those

442
00:20:51,440 --> 00:20:54,080
Speaker 1: are still quality guys. I mean everyone talks about the

443
00:20:54,119 --> 00:20:56,520
Speaker 1: first round. You can still get you know, good good

444
00:20:56,560 --> 00:20:58,399
Speaker 1: offensive line. What's the duty of this year for the

445
00:20:58,440 --> 00:21:00,920
Speaker 1: Steelers as they have seventeen and then they have thirty two.

446
00:21:01,359 --> 00:21:03,159
Speaker 1: So they get that first pick on day two. And

447
00:21:03,200 --> 00:21:05,600
Speaker 1: when we talked to Omar Khan the other day, says,

448
00:21:05,640 --> 00:21:08,399
Speaker 1: I expect in that twenty four hour period between the

449
00:21:08,520 --> 00:21:10,560
Speaker 1: end or eighteen hour period between the end of round

450
00:21:10,560 --> 00:21:13,359
Speaker 1: one and the start round two, that's gonna be a

451
00:21:13,480 --> 00:21:16,560
Speaker 1: very valuable pick. People are gonna call absolutely, I mean,

452
00:21:16,560 --> 00:21:20,560
Speaker 1: because somebody inevitably falls or you So, last year, although

453
00:21:20,600 --> 00:21:22,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't the third, it wasn't that early. You know,

454
00:21:22,840 --> 00:21:25,520
Speaker 1: the Jets made a move up to get Priests Hall. Yeah,

455
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: because you know they there there usually as a player

456
00:21:28,480 --> 00:21:30,080
Speaker 1: there that the team wants and they get a little

457
00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:32,720
Speaker 1: bit anty and moving up in the second round is

458
00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:34,680
Speaker 1: not as qustly as moving up in the first round.

459
00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:37,640
Speaker 1: So yeah, you can probably you know, maneuver that pick

460
00:21:38,359 --> 00:21:40,520
Speaker 1: or action off that pick and get more draft capital.

461
00:21:40,680 --> 00:21:43,560
Speaker 1: Is the fifty year option since they've made the rule

462
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:46,080
Speaker 1: changes with that, with the way that the money is

463
00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:48,480
Speaker 1: and that fifty year option, is it as valuable as

464
00:21:48,480 --> 00:21:50,760
Speaker 1: it used to be at certain positions you are I

465
00:21:50,800 --> 00:21:55,200
Speaker 1: mean at quarterback absolutely, I mean running back not so much, yea.

466
00:21:55,440 --> 00:22:00,440
Speaker 1: So it depends on the position. Left tackle absolutely, cornerback absolutely,

467
00:22:00,480 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 1: safety not so much. Imagine if the Giants would use

468
00:22:02,880 --> 00:22:04,879
Speaker 1: the fifth year option on Daniel Jones, there'd be a

469
00:22:04,880 --> 00:22:07,760
Speaker 1: lot less of a pickle as we stand right now, right,

470
00:22:08,240 --> 00:22:14,480
Speaker 1: So same question with corners. Yeah, whatever order, Porter, Gonzales, Witherspoon.

471
00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,879
Speaker 1: Are they your top three you think? And you're there

472
00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:22,520
Speaker 1: at seventeen, you said, Porter, Witherspoon, Gonzalez, that's my throughout

473
00:22:22,600 --> 00:22:26,120
Speaker 1: my order. I think there's a little gap after them too. Um. Yes,

474
00:22:26,160 --> 00:22:28,840
Speaker 1: but not as much as as people think. You know,

475
00:22:28,960 --> 00:22:31,719
Speaker 1: I'm still I like Christian Gonzalez. I'm not sold on

476
00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,800
Speaker 1: him as much. Joey Porter has got a much better

477
00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:38,439
Speaker 1: body of work. He's physical, he's athletic, he's fast. He

478
00:22:38,520 --> 00:22:41,400
Speaker 1: just needs to polish his game. Devin Witherspoon is probably

479
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,240
Speaker 1: the most polished corner in this draft. Have to see

480
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,560
Speaker 1: how he runs if he runs the forty, because there's

481
00:22:46,560 --> 00:22:49,520
Speaker 1: some question about his long speed. Devin Witherspoon is probably

482
00:22:49,560 --> 00:22:51,800
Speaker 1: the most NFL ready. You're gonna have the least amount

483
00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:53,520
Speaker 1: of bumps in the road with him. But if you're

484
00:22:53,520 --> 00:22:55,920
Speaker 1: not running fast and receivers are running down the field

485
00:22:55,960 --> 00:22:58,800
Speaker 1: past them, that's a problem. Christian Gonzalez. I like, doesnt

486
00:22:58,800 --> 00:23:01,040
Speaker 1: have the body work. You got some good players after

487
00:23:01,080 --> 00:23:05,560
Speaker 1: that though. I love the corner class. Yeah. Dete Banks

488
00:23:05,760 --> 00:23:08,400
Speaker 1: of Maryland, who is going to run really well here.

489
00:23:08,440 --> 00:23:10,719
Speaker 1: And you watched the film last year. The film matches

490
00:23:10,720 --> 00:23:15,120
Speaker 1: the athleticis yeah, exactly well. And it's not just he's

491
00:23:15,119 --> 00:23:17,920
Speaker 1: a fast athlete on the football field. He's a good cornerback.

492
00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:21,320
Speaker 1: He's it. He's a tough, confident to the point of

493
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:25,199
Speaker 1: being arrogant type of corner which which and he's got

494
00:23:25,200 --> 00:23:29,119
Speaker 1: a great amount of upside. Cam Smith of South Carolina.

495
00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,879
Speaker 1: Not as polished as say Deonte Banks. He's got to

496
00:23:31,960 --> 00:23:33,720
Speaker 1: learn to make plays with his with his back to

497
00:23:33,760 --> 00:23:36,280
Speaker 1: the ball, but he's got a great amount of side.

498
00:23:36,280 --> 00:23:38,480
Speaker 1: He's big, he's gonna run fast as well. I happened

499
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: to like DJ Turner of Michigan. I've heard great things

500
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:43,720
Speaker 1: about a test outstanding the wall skills. The only problem

501
00:23:43,760 --> 00:23:46,280
Speaker 1: is how talls. It's five ten and a half, he's

502
00:23:46,320 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 1: five to eleven. But there's twelve good ones in this class. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

503
00:23:50,119 --> 00:23:53,840
Speaker 1: Eli Ricks of Alabama, who's got tremendous upside and he's

504
00:23:53,880 --> 00:23:56,120
Speaker 1: got tremendous tape The only thing is he's played twenty

505
00:23:56,119 --> 00:23:58,399
Speaker 1: four games in three years. He started five games for

506
00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 1: Alabama last year, So it's all of the dice with

507
00:24:01,200 --> 00:24:04,160
Speaker 1: a lot of people like Keiley Ringo. I like Keaty

508
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 1: Ringo as an athlete. When he's on his game, he's

509
00:24:06,840 --> 00:24:08,879
Speaker 1: very good. But when you really break down the film,

510
00:24:08,960 --> 00:24:10,640
Speaker 1: there's a lot of issues with his game. He gives

511
00:24:10,680 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 1: up a lot of receptions. People remember he played great

512
00:24:12,640 --> 00:24:15,960
Speaker 1: against Ohio State down the stretch when they need him to,

513
00:24:16,200 --> 00:24:17,800
Speaker 1: but there are a lot of issues. You know, there've

514
00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 1: been issues with his game. Garrett Williams of Syracuse is

515
00:24:20,760 --> 00:24:23,600
Speaker 1: another guy. Day two guy, Emmanuel Forbes of Mississippi State.

516
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,000
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a nickelback toller thinner guy,

517
00:24:26,040 --> 00:24:29,080
Speaker 1: Clark Phillips of Utah, Chyreek Stevens in Miami. So yeah, yeah,

518
00:24:29,600 --> 00:24:32,440
Speaker 1: you're gonna even even started Day three. I mean you're

519
00:24:32,440 --> 00:24:35,639
Speaker 1: gonna have guys like Terrell Smith of Minnesota, Miles Brooks

520
00:24:35,640 --> 00:24:38,359
Speaker 1: of Louisiana Tech. You're gonna be able to get and

521
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 1: not necessarily starting corners, but I mean guys like that

522
00:24:44,240 --> 00:24:47,760
Speaker 1: as as nickelbacks as rookies. Yeah yeah, Rush from South Carolina,

523
00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:49,840
Speaker 1: Darre rush. I want to see how I heard he's

524
00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:53,400
Speaker 1: gonna run pretty fast, little little rough around the edges

525
00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:56,400
Speaker 1: with his game. But he's got size as well. Yeah,

526
00:24:56,440 --> 00:24:58,359
Speaker 1: So I mean teams are gonna look at this. NFL

527
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,159
Speaker 1: coaches are gonna look at this and say, but we

528
00:25:00,160 --> 00:25:02,320
Speaker 1: can coach at guile. But he's got he's got he's

529
00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: big enough to ride to ride. There's a lot of

530
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:06,480
Speaker 1: these guys that are over six foot, right that you know,

531
00:25:06,640 --> 00:25:09,000
Speaker 1: they do that at every position, and I think sometimes

532
00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,280
Speaker 1: to their detriment, right, because what happens is is in

533
00:25:12,320 --> 00:25:15,320
Speaker 1: the state of trades, right, and they say, what did

534
00:25:15,320 --> 00:25:18,320
Speaker 1: this guy do well? Okay, and sometimes they dismiss what

535
00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:21,879
Speaker 1: the guy consistently does wrong. Right, And it's sometimes especially

536
00:25:21,920 --> 00:25:25,040
Speaker 1: the quarterback position, you can't coach that out of a player,

537
00:25:25,280 --> 00:25:27,840
Speaker 1: which is why there's so many bus Yeah, do you

538
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 1: have a good feel for be Jean Robinson where he

539
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: lands and how would you compare him to since you've

540
00:25:33,320 --> 00:25:35,360
Speaker 1: been doing this the best running back in their class,

541
00:25:37,280 --> 00:25:43,000
Speaker 1: you know, I think Barkley was was more well rounded.

542
00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:46,360
Speaker 1: Barkley was a terrific short yardage ball carrier. Third and two.

543
00:25:46,400 --> 00:25:48,879
Speaker 1: You can give him the ball. C Jean Robinson is

544
00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,000
Speaker 1: a guy who can be brought down at the point

545
00:25:51,040 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: by a single defender. He's not going to carry the pilelight.

546
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:57,200
Speaker 1: Barkley did that said he's a phenomenal talent. I think

547
00:25:57,200 --> 00:25:59,720
Speaker 1: if it was twenty five years ago, we're potentially talking

548
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,240
Speaker 1: about Jean Robinson has potentially the first pick of the

549
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 1: Jet right, if not a top three pick, where does

550
00:26:04,800 --> 00:26:07,000
Speaker 1: he fall. I have him going to the Buffalo Bills

551
00:26:07,000 --> 00:26:10,520
Speaker 1: in the twenties, simply because they need not only that

552
00:26:10,600 --> 00:26:12,480
Speaker 1: it's not a value position, and they was talked at

553
00:26:12,480 --> 00:26:14,800
Speaker 1: the Buffalo Bills, we're gonna take Greese Hall last year,

554
00:26:15,119 --> 00:26:17,119
Speaker 1: past on Hole to take care elon the Jets to

555
00:26:17,119 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: call him the second round. See what Holl did before

556
00:26:19,119 --> 00:26:22,399
Speaker 1: his injury. So I think that it's a situation where

557
00:26:22,600 --> 00:26:24,240
Speaker 1: I said, a Breefe Hall last year, he's a first

558
00:26:24,320 --> 00:26:27,440
Speaker 1: round prospect who plays a second round position. Be Jean Robinson.

559
00:26:27,480 --> 00:26:29,920
Speaker 1: I think he's a top ten prospect who plays a

560
00:26:29,960 --> 00:26:32,639
Speaker 1: position that's going to go into second round position right right.

561
00:26:33,400 --> 00:26:36,400
Speaker 1: In terms of the defensive lineman in this in this

562
00:26:36,440 --> 00:26:39,159
Speaker 1: class and the defensive front, we saw what happen with

563
00:26:39,240 --> 00:26:41,960
Speaker 1: Jalen Carter. Everybody knows that news by now, how does

564
00:26:41,960 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: that affect him? How does that affect then the rest

565
00:26:45,119 --> 00:26:49,360
Speaker 1: of the draft board guy saw this, but right before

566
00:26:49,359 --> 00:26:52,760
Speaker 1: we're on the air, Carter's here, He's back right to

567
00:26:52,800 --> 00:26:56,200
Speaker 1: answer your question. How does it affect him? Nobody knows? Okay, Uh,

568
00:26:56,960 --> 00:26:59,720
Speaker 1: he best case scenario for him. This has got to

569
00:26:59,760 --> 00:27:02,000
Speaker 1: be finished in the court of law sooner rather than later,

570
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: because if we go to draft weekend, remember Layelle Collins

571
00:27:05,400 --> 00:27:08,680
Speaker 1: Lale Collins. Just days before the twenty fifteen draft. He

572
00:27:08,800 --> 00:27:12,000
Speaker 1: wasn't even a suspect in the case. Police just wanted

573
00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:15,040
Speaker 1: to talk to him about the situation because there were

574
00:27:15,080 --> 00:27:18,280
Speaker 1: some text messages and it struck fearing everybody, and Layolle

575
00:27:18,320 --> 00:27:22,160
Speaker 1: Collins went from a potential top forty pick to undraft undrafting. Okay,

576
00:27:22,240 --> 00:27:26,520
Speaker 1: if there are lingering legal questions about this come draft

577
00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:29,920
Speaker 1: the day draft weekend, it will kill Jillen Carter stock

578
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:33,080
Speaker 1: because they're not going to know. You know, there's all

579
00:27:33,119 --> 00:27:36,640
Speaker 1: this speculation out and it's just speculation. I think even

580
00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:40,040
Speaker 1: if it's answered before the draft, there's gonna be questions

581
00:27:40,040 --> 00:27:42,960
Speaker 1: about his trustworthiness because they said that he was shifting

582
00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,679
Speaker 1: his story and people have told me all right, he

583
00:27:44,720 --> 00:27:47,080
Speaker 1: lied to police, yea, And teams are gonna want to

584
00:27:47,080 --> 00:27:49,080
Speaker 1: know what you know. If you're gonna lie to police,

585
00:27:49,280 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: what are you gonna tell? How can we trust you exactly?

586
00:27:51,760 --> 00:27:55,960
Speaker 1: I've heard there's a level of immaturity there. There's in general. Yeah, yeah,

587
00:27:56,560 --> 00:27:59,200
Speaker 1: he's not You see that a lot of times. Quinnon Williams,

588
00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:01,160
Speaker 1: I mean when he came mount in the draft, was very,

589
00:28:01,280 --> 00:28:03,760
Speaker 1: very naive. But he's blossomed into one of the best

590
00:28:03,760 --> 00:28:07,720
Speaker 1: defensive tackles in the league. He's playing phenomenal overall. It's

591
00:28:07,760 --> 00:28:11,640
Speaker 1: good pass rushing class. Uh, you've got some good defensive tackles.

592
00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,280
Speaker 1: I think you've got who's your number two numb a

593
00:28:14,320 --> 00:28:19,720
Speaker 1: two defensive tackle of Clemson who I think actually in

594
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:22,760
Speaker 1: my mock draft I had him falling to the Steelers

595
00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:28,479
Speaker 1: in seventeen because I had so many cornerbacks going girly. Okay, Uh,

596
00:28:28,600 --> 00:28:30,719
Speaker 1: And Breeze is a guy who when you looked at

597
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,359
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty one film, he was a game wrecker.

598
00:28:33,560 --> 00:28:35,600
Speaker 1: He was he was a guy who controlled the minor

599
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:39,959
Speaker 1: scrimmage and just dominated play. Comes back this year story

600
00:28:39,960 --> 00:28:42,560
Speaker 1: with a sister, younger sister dying a brain cancer. He

601
00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 1: had a kidney affection himself. I think he had a

602
00:28:45,280 --> 00:28:48,760
Speaker 1: shoulder this year. Yeah, and I think he had enough

603
00:28:48,800 --> 00:28:50,280
Speaker 1: college football. I said, time to take it to the

604
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:53,160
Speaker 1: next level. So I'm very hopeful of him. I have

605
00:28:53,280 --> 00:28:55,480
Speaker 1: him as ranked as a top eight prospect in the

606
00:28:55,560 --> 00:28:58,520
Speaker 1: draft because of what I saw in twenty twenty one

607
00:28:58,640 --> 00:29:00,560
Speaker 1: and willing to give him a pass last year. Do

608
00:29:00,600 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 1: you agree this week is critical for him though? I

609
00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:07,239
Speaker 1: mean medicals and interviews, Uh, interviews, Yeah, but I think

610
00:29:07,240 --> 00:29:09,480
Speaker 1: he's going to interview. Well, I here's a high high character.

611
00:29:09,760 --> 00:29:12,440
Speaker 1: I don't know if any problems in his past. The medicals,

612
00:29:12,680 --> 00:29:15,320
Speaker 1: I was more talking about his the unfortunate situation the sister,

613
00:29:15,520 --> 00:29:17,920
Speaker 1: How did that affect you to the season all? But

614
00:29:18,000 --> 00:29:20,640
Speaker 1: the thing is this is anyone not only that is

615
00:29:20,840 --> 00:29:23,040
Speaker 1: he came back to play. You know, most guys could

616
00:29:23,080 --> 00:29:25,280
Speaker 1: have red shirted up and said listen, I'm done. He

617
00:29:25,360 --> 00:29:27,440
Speaker 1: came back and play, and I think that, you know,

618
00:29:27,720 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 1: that's a positive for him, or at least came back

619
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 1: and tried to play. The medicals are critical for everybody, everybody,

620
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: you know, just like you know Jaalen Carter with the

621
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,120
Speaker 1: legal questions. A bad medical will kill a guy's draft stock.

622
00:29:39,560 --> 00:29:42,920
Speaker 1: So you mentioned you had him mocked to the Steelers. Um,

623
00:29:43,960 --> 00:29:46,200
Speaker 1: I've told Matt before we even got here that he's

624
00:29:46,200 --> 00:29:48,560
Speaker 1: one of the guys that I would like to see

625
00:29:49,000 --> 00:29:53,200
Speaker 1: them potentially get here. Uh. Brian Branch is another guy

626
00:29:53,240 --> 00:29:55,880
Speaker 1: that that I really like that would fit well with

627
00:29:55,920 --> 00:29:59,240
Speaker 1: what they do. In terms of the Steelers in the draft.

628
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 1: I mean, what you see there needs be I think

629
00:30:02,560 --> 00:30:05,280
Speaker 1: anything on the lines of scrimmage number one, I think

630
00:30:05,600 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: either side of the line of scrimmage. That's why I

631
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,959
Speaker 1: had Breeze going to them. I mean, you know after that,

632
00:30:12,040 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 1: and it could be multiple guys on the lines of

633
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:17,760
Speaker 1: scrimmage after that, and maybe they need a receiver at

634
00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: some point. Uh yeah, corner as well. So I think

635
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,520
Speaker 1: that one of the like I said, the reason I

636
00:30:24,560 --> 00:30:27,400
Speaker 1: had Briez going seventeen is because all the corners are

637
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 1: off the board. Now Briez goes seventeen and one of

638
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,720
Speaker 1: those corners fall down to him, I think that's something

639
00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:35,240
Speaker 1: that appeals him. I do like Brian Branch, though. I

640
00:30:35,240 --> 00:30:38,320
Speaker 1: had Brian Branch going to the Jets at thirteen and

641
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: my mock draft because Bryan Branch is a say, who

642
00:30:41,120 --> 00:30:43,000
Speaker 1: is a guy who a defensive back who plays a

643
00:30:43,080 --> 00:30:45,920
Speaker 1: safety position like a cornerback. Yeah, he is a guy

644
00:30:45,920 --> 00:30:48,840
Speaker 1: that you can line up over a slot receiver in

645
00:30:48,920 --> 00:30:51,400
Speaker 1: man coverage and you're gonna lose nothing. He's also held.

646
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,560
Speaker 1: He's very physical, he's very and he's fast, and he's

647
00:30:55,920 --> 00:30:58,480
Speaker 1: I have Branch rated much higher than most people I have.

648
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:01,320
Speaker 1: Branch is a top ten prospect on my overall draft board.

649
00:31:01,520 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: He was good in two thousand and twenty one, he

650
00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: was better in two thousand and twenty two, and he

651
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: can do a lot of things in center to make

652
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:11,000
Speaker 1: a Fitzpatrick aren't aren't a reach? No, not at all.

653
00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: I mean they're They're definitely two of those. It wouldn't

654
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:18,320
Speaker 1: be so bad so other d tackles. How about Eca?

655
00:31:18,440 --> 00:31:25,400
Speaker 1: How about Mazzie Smith? Okay, I'm a guy who thinks

656
00:31:25,440 --> 00:31:27,320
Speaker 1: moles He Smith should go first round. Whether he goes

657
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:30,040
Speaker 1: first round or not, I don't know. Uh, he's supposedly

658
00:31:30,040 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: going to test off the charts. He's like a legend.

659
00:31:32,800 --> 00:31:36,160
Speaker 1: I was told that during spring practice he ran the

660
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:40,480
Speaker 1: three cone at over three hundred pounds under seven seconds. Now,

661
00:31:40,520 --> 00:31:42,200
Speaker 1: even if he comes close to that, that's amazing. But

662
00:31:42,240 --> 00:31:43,960
Speaker 1: think of how many defensive backs want to come here

663
00:31:43,960 --> 00:31:46,720
Speaker 1: and run under under seven seconds. When I watched Molesy

664
00:31:46,720 --> 00:31:49,560
Speaker 1: Smith the past two years, I see what he does.

665
00:31:49,640 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 1: The dirty work in the middle of the the line enabled

666
00:31:51,880 --> 00:31:55,040
Speaker 1: Mike Morris and Aiden Hutchinson and David a job to

667
00:31:55,120 --> 00:31:56,959
Speaker 1: do those things on the edges because they were on man.

668
00:31:57,240 --> 00:32:00,440
Speaker 1: They were in man situations because Smith kept getting a

669
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: double team in the middle line. I don't think he's

670
00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:07,720
Speaker 1: worth the seventeen pick of the dress. Absolutely if he's there, absolutely. Uh.

671
00:32:07,840 --> 00:32:10,160
Speaker 1: He got from Baylor. He's more a Day two guy.

672
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 1: He's more of your plugger. He is your zero technique,

673
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:16,840
Speaker 1: traditional nose tackle type that's gonna basically command double team

674
00:32:16,880 --> 00:32:20,880
Speaker 1: blocks and he is immovable off the line. He's not

675
00:32:20,880 --> 00:32:23,720
Speaker 1: a playmakers an athletic guy. He's not a pass rusher.

676
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:26,440
Speaker 1: He can make plays against the run, but you're looking

677
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:29,800
Speaker 1: at him to basically occupy the gaps. Who comes out

678
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,080
Speaker 1: of this is the best off ball linebacker. I think

679
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 1: Trenton Smith of U of Trenton Smith of Clemson is

680
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: a guy you got to look at. He's very athletic.

681
00:32:42,840 --> 00:32:48,160
Speaker 1: Simpson Simpson, Uh, He's very athletic. He covers a lot

682
00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: of area on the field, he goes sidelines to sideline.

683
00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,600
Speaker 1: I've seen film where he's thirty yards down the field

684
00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: with tight ends and coverage. The instincts have got to

685
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: be a little bit questioned, a little more athletes than

686
00:32:58,080 --> 00:33:00,480
Speaker 1: football player right now. Yeah, he basically runs to the

687
00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:03,000
Speaker 1: ball and makes a lot of places. I like Nolan

688
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,960
Speaker 1: Smith of Georgie a lot. Now. Nolan Smith had the

689
00:33:05,960 --> 00:33:08,960
Speaker 1: pictorial injury this year, played sparingly in eight games, and

690
00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:10,320
Speaker 1: then they shut him down the end of the season.

691
00:33:10,360 --> 00:33:12,520
Speaker 1: You go back and you watch Nolan Smith in twenty

692
00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,200
Speaker 1: twenty one with Georgia had all that great talent, and

693
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,960
Speaker 1: Nolan Smith was a three down linebacker. He could play

694
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:20,400
Speaker 1: in space, he could play in coverage, he could defend

695
00:33:20,440 --> 00:33:23,280
Speaker 1: against the run and it would blitz him up the field.

696
00:33:23,760 --> 00:33:27,440
Speaker 1: He was outstanding all aspects of the position. I had

697
00:33:27,520 --> 00:33:30,040
Speaker 1: him as a first rounder coming into the season. Had

698
00:33:30,040 --> 00:33:32,680
Speaker 1: that injury, He's gonna fall a little bit, uh, a

699
00:33:32,760 --> 00:33:35,280
Speaker 1: little bit later on than what people think. I think

700
00:33:35,760 --> 00:33:39,640
Speaker 1: you're listened him with the linebackers, not the edges. Yes, okay, yeah, okay,

701
00:33:39,680 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 1: I know he's yeah right, but it's not forget about

702
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 1: the weight. I just look at the film and the

703
00:33:46,080 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 1: things that he could do off the three down game

704
00:33:48,520 --> 00:33:50,920
Speaker 1: that he has, which is why you know, I think

705
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 1: you can do. You can line u up in the three,

706
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:54,160
Speaker 1: if you can line up in three to four. You know,

707
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:56,640
Speaker 1: if it's third and five, you can send him up

708
00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:58,200
Speaker 1: the field on the lids, or you can drop him

709
00:33:58,200 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: off the mind with it with a tight end. Speaking

710
00:34:00,480 --> 00:34:02,440
Speaker 1: to tight ends, I'm kind of infatuated with this tight

711
00:34:02,520 --> 00:34:04,720
Speaker 1: end class, and I know the Steelers don't really need one,

712
00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:07,080
Speaker 1: but I want one. Do you love the class as

713
00:34:07,080 --> 00:34:09,239
Speaker 1: a whole? I mean I could see eight starters in

714
00:34:09,239 --> 00:34:11,040
Speaker 1: this group when it's all said and done. I'm two

715
00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:12,719
Speaker 1: years from now. There were three guys at the top

716
00:34:12,719 --> 00:34:15,640
Speaker 1: of my list. Michael Mayer have a Notre Dame was

717
00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:19,640
Speaker 1: traditional in line exactly. Michael Maare fifteen twenty years ago

718
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:21,919
Speaker 1: is a top fifteen pick. I don't know that Michael

719
00:34:21,920 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: Mayer is gonna break four eight in the four to hear. Yeah,

720
00:34:24,719 --> 00:34:27,239
Speaker 1: So he's not a tight end for everyone, but he's

721
00:34:27,239 --> 00:34:28,960
Speaker 1: a tight end that can play every down. You know.

722
00:34:29,320 --> 00:34:32,360
Speaker 1: Luke Musgrave of Oregon State, I think my favorite. Yeah,

723
00:34:32,440 --> 00:34:34,960
Speaker 1: he's very underrated. He was at the Senior Bowl. He

724
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:37,240
Speaker 1: was less than one hundred percent and he's out there competing.

725
00:34:37,600 --> 00:34:39,200
Speaker 1: And when we asked him, you know, why are you

726
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:40,680
Speaker 1: here one hundred percent, He's like, I just want to

727
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,480
Speaker 1: play football and that's gonna go over watch it on TV.

728
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:45,239
Speaker 1: Still looked like he was running like a deer through

729
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,279
Speaker 1: the second day. You know, right, Tucker Craft is a

730
00:34:47,320 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: guy that people should get really familiar with. I think

731
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,200
Speaker 1: he's going to test off the charge from South Dakota State.

732
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:54,759
Speaker 1: He plays the tight end position like a receiver. I

733
00:34:54,840 --> 00:34:58,440
Speaker 1: like Sam Laporta, Dalton Kin of Iowa. I think he's

734
00:34:58,440 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: on the rated Dalton kink kid, I like. I know

735
00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:01,879
Speaker 1: a lot of people think him as the first round.

736
00:35:02,160 --> 00:35:03,920
Speaker 1: What I was told is he may not be able

737
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:06,359
Speaker 1: to work out before the draft because he's injured. He's

738
00:35:06,360 --> 00:35:09,319
Speaker 1: banged up, and I think with Dalton Kincaide, I didn't

739
00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:10,560
Speaker 1: even want to say he was a late bloomer. I

740
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:13,439
Speaker 1: don't think Utah really used him correctly because he wasn't

741
00:35:13,440 --> 00:35:16,520
Speaker 1: the starting tight end going into the season. Brian Quith was,

742
00:35:16,920 --> 00:35:20,080
Speaker 1: and when Quick got injured, they put Dalton Kincaide basically

743
00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: where he should have been from day one as it started.

744
00:35:21,640 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: I mean he was a zero star recruit, didn't know

745
00:35:23,600 --> 00:35:26,480
Speaker 1: who he was, didn't catch any passes. Any iron irony

746
00:35:26,560 --> 00:35:29,840
Speaker 1: is he's gonna if you know, he's got excellent size,

747
00:35:30,160 --> 00:35:32,360
Speaker 1: he's got excellent play speed. He was a guy who's

748
00:35:32,400 --> 00:35:35,240
Speaker 1: projected to be like a four six five guy before

749
00:35:35,280 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: the injury. Don't know if we're gonna get to see

750
00:35:36,840 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 1: him run before the draft. Well, our guest has been

751
00:35:39,280 --> 00:35:41,920
Speaker 1: Tony Pauline and the Profooball Network. Tony, we appreciate your

752
00:35:41,920 --> 00:35:45,040
Speaker 1: time and always your expertise on the draft. I know

753
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:47,120
Speaker 1: you do. This is what you do, yes, and so

754
00:35:47,360 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: we appreciate you stopping by. He is Matt Williamson. I

755
00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 1: am Dale Alli. You're listening to the drive here on

756
00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back with more right after this.

757
00:36:00,440 --> 00:36:04,759
Speaker 1: From Indianapolis. They sees a twenty twenty three NFL combine

758
00:36:05,080 --> 00:36:10,200
Speaker 1: on Steelers Nation Radio. Welcome back to the drive by

759
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:12,880
Speaker 1: him Dale Lally. He is Matt Williamson. And then we

760
00:36:12,920 --> 00:36:15,279
Speaker 1: went thanked Tony Pauline for stopping in there with this

761
00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:20,200
Speaker 1: God and Tony even digging Zeppe. We didn't although we

762
00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:22,680
Speaker 1: talked a little bit about a pre sure because we

763
00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 1: were at the Slippery Noodle the other night, and there

764
00:36:25,760 --> 00:36:30,279
Speaker 1: was an acoustic band playing. But two man acoustic band?

765
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:32,480
Speaker 1: Is that a band? Or is that a duo? Not

766
00:36:32,560 --> 00:36:35,440
Speaker 1: a band? What could be a friend? The White Stripes

767
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,800
Speaker 1: were a band. There were two people a cello and

768
00:36:38,480 --> 00:36:42,279
Speaker 1: a cello and an acoustic guitar. Yeah, and rambling on.

769
00:36:42,560 --> 00:36:44,919
Speaker 1: You don't often see that duo, but they did play,

770
00:36:44,960 --> 00:36:46,799
Speaker 1: played a heck of a version of ramble on. In fact,

771
00:36:47,040 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 1: the good old stuff they played was really good. But yeah. Um.

772
00:36:51,280 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: So this week, Steeler fans, we're giving Steelers Nation even

773
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: more ways to consume s and our drive content at

774
00:36:57,200 --> 00:37:00,120
Speaker 1: the annual Scouting Combine. You can listen to us live

775
00:37:00,120 --> 00:37:02,040
Speaker 1: here each day from two to four on SNR. You

776
00:37:02,040 --> 00:37:04,560
Speaker 1: can also get our programs as usual on demand where

777
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:06,840
Speaker 1: you get all your favorite podcasts, but this week it

778
00:37:06,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: could also watch and listen to our shows here on

779
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:12,520
Speaker 1: Radio Row each night during the combine, on the Steelers

780
00:37:12,520 --> 00:37:16,360
Speaker 1: YouTube channel that is live on SNR, through our podcasts,

781
00:37:16,400 --> 00:37:19,279
Speaker 1: and on the Steelers YouTube page. So check that out.

782
00:37:19,640 --> 00:37:22,960
Speaker 1: And we're starting to get some results here from the

783
00:37:23,000 --> 00:37:26,920
Speaker 1: measurements of the defensive linemen and intrepid reporter over here,

784
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,799
Speaker 1: Wesley Uhler said that Colijah Cancy out of a pit,

785
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,680
Speaker 1: came in at six foot one, two hundred and eighty

786
00:37:32,680 --> 00:37:35,920
Speaker 1: one pounds plus for him big. That's a plus for him.

787
00:37:35,960 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: I thought he would be. He was listed at six

788
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:40,080
Speaker 1: foot a pit, so you always say, well, is he

789
00:37:40,200 --> 00:37:42,600
Speaker 1: six foot? Is five to eleven and change? Is he

790
00:37:42,680 --> 00:37:45,319
Speaker 1: six foot? So coming into six one is big? Yeah,

791
00:37:45,320 --> 00:37:47,880
Speaker 1: it is. And I still don't think he's for the Steelers,

792
00:37:48,000 --> 00:37:50,200
Speaker 1: but I think he's in the mix for possibly the

793
00:37:50,280 --> 00:37:53,480
Speaker 1: second d tackle off the board. In the mix. I

794
00:37:53,480 --> 00:37:57,040
Speaker 1: expect him to test extremely well. His get off is rare.

795
00:37:57,640 --> 00:38:01,839
Speaker 1: His interior pass rush has immense value to any team.

796
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,040
Speaker 1: It's just how does your scheme fit him? But I

797
00:38:05,080 --> 00:38:07,719
Speaker 1: thought he'd be lucky to be six foot, So the

798
00:38:07,719 --> 00:38:10,560
Speaker 1: fact that he's six one I think helps him in

799
00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 1: the real world. He's a good football players away, you know, right, yeah, yeah, yeah,

800
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: uh looking here, says Lucas van Ness came in at

801
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:20,080
Speaker 1: six five two seventy two, a little heavier than expected. Yeah,

802
00:38:20,160 --> 00:38:22,480
Speaker 1: he's a thumper man. I was watching him the other day.

803
00:38:22,880 --> 00:38:25,799
Speaker 1: I think there's some bud dupre there in that. He's

804
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:28,160
Speaker 1: just a bully. It tries to go through people time

805
00:38:28,160 --> 00:38:31,160
Speaker 1: and time again, which works. And he has those kind

806
00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:36,800
Speaker 1: of you know, power heavy hands size eleven inch hands. Okay,

807
00:38:37,000 --> 00:38:39,600
Speaker 1: that all adds up with big hands right right, thirty

808
00:38:39,600 --> 00:38:42,279
Speaker 1: four inch arms. Yeah, I mean he looks apart. Yeah.

809
00:38:42,280 --> 00:38:43,920
Speaker 1: I think he needs to refine his pass rush a

810
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:46,600
Speaker 1: little bit more and it's hard to just brute tackles.

811
00:38:46,600 --> 00:38:49,160
Speaker 1: And again, if you're a Steeler fan, you want Lucas

812
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: van Ness going before seventeen. I think so. Yeah. I

813
00:38:51,920 --> 00:38:53,839
Speaker 1: don't think they'd be super interested in him, but if

814
00:38:53,840 --> 00:38:56,240
Speaker 1: he can develop as an interior pass rusher and develop

815
00:38:56,239 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 1: his pass rusher moves, he has a high ceiling. Yeah,

816
00:38:58,719 --> 00:39:04,000
Speaker 1: Felix and Duke a uh and in the dca Uzoma

817
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,520
Speaker 1: from kse state to sixty three two fifty five thirty

818
00:39:07,520 --> 00:39:09,160
Speaker 1: three and a half inch arms, Yeah, I mean he's

819
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:11,919
Speaker 1: the stealer mold. He's he's a Day two players. He's

820
00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:16,200
Speaker 1: a true you know, outside lineback type. I don't know

821
00:39:16,200 --> 00:39:19,399
Speaker 1: if van Ness at that size is not as much

822
00:39:19,760 --> 00:39:21,839
Speaker 1: more of a four three more of a four three,

823
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,880
Speaker 1: can he be an interior pass rusher maybe maybe maybe?

824
00:39:25,920 --> 00:39:28,640
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, I'm looking here, I'm just not seeing

825
00:39:28,680 --> 00:39:31,960
Speaker 1: a lot of measurements here yet Uh yeah, I'm actually

826
00:39:32,000 --> 00:39:34,680
Speaker 1: looking better for three days when Pro Football Network, Tony

827
00:39:34,719 --> 00:39:37,040
Speaker 1: Pauline's network here, We'll see what they Tony has always

828
00:39:37,040 --> 00:39:39,520
Speaker 1: dialed in with that stuff he is. I'm looking here hights,

829
00:39:39,520 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 1: some weights, ights and weight, tights and weights. It's loading.

830
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 1: It's loading as the internet has been a little bit

831
00:39:43,800 --> 00:39:46,040
Speaker 1: an issue here this week. But but if a problem. Yeah,

832
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:48,760
Speaker 1: and plus this is all brand new information. Yeah, Okay,

833
00:39:48,800 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 1: there we go. They don't seem to Oh they got

834
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 1: a few here, Brian Breecy, he said six five and

835
00:39:56,280 --> 00:39:58,520
Speaker 1: a half two ninety eight to ten and a quarter

836
00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:02,239
Speaker 1: inch hands all what you want? Six five, six five

837
00:40:02,280 --> 00:40:04,040
Speaker 1: and a half two ninety eight is nice? Do you happen?

838
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,719
Speaker 1: I guess. And he came in a little bit lighter

839
00:40:05,719 --> 00:40:07,560
Speaker 1: because he was listened at three oh five because he

840
00:40:07,640 --> 00:40:10,240
Speaker 1: wants to run better. Cam was under three hundred pounds.

841
00:40:10,320 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 1: Is a draft basically right around that three two ninety

842
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: eight basically three hundred Yeah, Oh yeah, I don't care

843
00:40:15,120 --> 00:40:17,799
Speaker 1: iry three hundred and nine. He's not a nose. I mean,

844
00:40:17,840 --> 00:40:19,719
Speaker 1: I'm not asking, but he's got that length, he's got

845
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:22,280
Speaker 1: that six five and a half. He's gonna look like, Yeah,

846
00:40:22,320 --> 00:40:25,280
Speaker 1: you know, that's what he looks like the dinosaur you expected.

847
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:27,319
Speaker 1: He's actually a little taller than I expected looking at

848
00:40:27,440 --> 00:40:29,480
Speaker 1: watch him on six five and a half. Yeah, yeah, yeah,

849
00:40:29,520 --> 00:40:33,160
Speaker 1: that's great. Uh Byron young out of Texas is there's

850
00:40:33,160 --> 00:40:35,600
Speaker 1: two Byron youngs. There a Bama one and a Tennessee one.

851
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:38,120
Speaker 1: This is the Bama one. Yeah, six three two ninety four,

852
00:40:38,440 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 1: six three two ninety four. Okay, yeah, yeah. He might

853
00:40:41,120 --> 00:40:43,160
Speaker 1: be a little short for the Steelers d ends, but

854
00:40:43,200 --> 00:40:45,919
Speaker 1: they've he's kept eleven inch hands too. Really, Okay, Max,

855
00:40:45,920 --> 00:40:52,040
Speaker 1: what your hands come in at the Max starts at

856
00:40:52,040 --> 00:40:54,239
Speaker 1: eleven and a half inchance. If you've ever seen I'm

857
00:40:54,239 --> 00:40:56,799
Speaker 1: looking here at Max's hands now, Max, they're large. Max.

858
00:40:57,360 --> 00:40:59,440
Speaker 1: When Max grabs a basketball, looks like he has a

859
00:40:59,480 --> 00:41:05,640
Speaker 1: nerf ball. I mean, eleven's huge. I just remember when

860
00:41:05,640 --> 00:41:08,040
Speaker 1: they when the first time t J. Watt they brought

861
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,160
Speaker 1: when the Steelers draft to t J. Watt and we

862
00:41:10,160 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 1: were on the air at the facility doing the draft

863
00:41:13,239 --> 00:41:16,120
Speaker 1: coverage and they brought TJ over to talk to us,

864
00:41:16,320 --> 00:41:18,239
Speaker 1: and he shook his hand and it was like and

865
00:41:18,280 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: it just enveloped her twice, enveloped your whole hand, Like, Wow,

866
00:41:21,120 --> 00:41:23,680
Speaker 1: this dude's got big hands. The one that I remember

867
00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,200
Speaker 1: was when DeForrest Buckner was coming out of Oregon and

868
00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:29,839
Speaker 1: it was dude, who's doing combine stuff. He could pick

869
00:41:30,000 --> 00:41:37,120
Speaker 1: up a ruler twelve inch. That's that's a big hand. Yeah,

870
00:41:37,120 --> 00:41:42,120
Speaker 1: that's that's a big hand. So yeah, I'm starting to

871
00:41:42,200 --> 00:41:44,359
Speaker 1: let let's see here if there's anybody else and got

872
00:41:44,360 --> 00:41:47,040
Speaker 1: those three thus far. Oh there's one uh dj Dale

873
00:41:47,120 --> 00:41:51,040
Speaker 1: Interior offensive lineman. Uh he is from interior defensive lineman

874
00:41:51,080 --> 00:41:54,919
Speaker 1: or offensive interior defense. Uh six one three h two Okay,

875
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 1: I'm not real familiar with him either. Yeah. Uh, we'll

876
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:00,160
Speaker 1: keep checking these. I mean it's Dante Stills, the West

877
00:42:00,200 --> 00:42:04,240
Speaker 1: Virginia guy six three and a half two eighty six. Okay,

878
00:42:04,320 --> 00:42:05,960
Speaker 1: I mean there's a Day three guy. I think there's

879
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:08,919
Speaker 1: some interest there. Yeah, it looks like a Cameron Young.

880
00:42:10,120 --> 00:42:13,040
Speaker 1: Uh he's the gather camera. Yeah okay yeah six three

881
00:42:13,160 --> 00:42:16,160
Speaker 1: three oh four six three three oh four okay, okay, Yeah,

882
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,799
Speaker 1: they don't designate with the schools series. Yeah, yeah, get

883
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,640
Speaker 1: some guys who was simple with the same name. It

884
00:42:20,680 --> 00:42:23,160
Speaker 1: doesn't happen all the time, right, Yeah. Uh, it looks

885
00:42:23,200 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 1: like Jalen Carter. It's interesting he's in the building, it's

886
00:42:28,120 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 1: fourteen him and who knows how that affects him, But

887
00:42:30,960 --> 00:42:34,040
Speaker 1: it sounds like just his whole situation, the fact that

888
00:42:34,080 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 1: he weighs three fourteen. No, he doesn't. That's one of

889
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:37,879
Speaker 1: the beauties. Yeah, he looks like I mean, he looks

890
00:42:38,000 --> 00:42:40,160
Speaker 1: much more athletic than that. Like I've all heard all

891
00:42:40,160 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: these Quinnin Williams uh comparisons, and Tony even kind of

892
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,359
Speaker 1: brought it up, and I'm like, Williams is heavier, isn't he? Yeah?

893
00:42:47,400 --> 00:42:51,960
Speaker 1: But no? Right, wow, you know right, Gervin Dexter came

894
00:42:51,960 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 1: in at six six, but he didn't. He did not.

895
00:42:55,920 --> 00:43:00,600
Speaker 1: There's no weight here listed for him Dexter. That's possible. Yeah,

896
00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:04,520
Speaker 1: Max mentioned that, do you know who the Florida strength coaches?

897
00:43:04,680 --> 00:43:08,759
Speaker 1: I do not. It is Carl Dunbar's son, so there

898
00:43:08,800 --> 00:43:12,239
Speaker 1: might be a little inside information there on that. Uh.

899
00:43:12,320 --> 00:43:16,000
Speaker 1: KeAndre Coburn six two three thirty two. I don't know him.

900
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:22,520
Speaker 1: Uh he is from US it Auburn could be. Yeah,

901
00:43:22,640 --> 00:43:24,440
Speaker 1: it sounds like they're doing all the d tackles right now. Though.

902
00:43:24,480 --> 00:43:28,120
Speaker 1: Keanu Benton from uh Mortia six four three oh nine.

903
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 1: I bet he has long arms nine and three quarter

904
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:34,840
Speaker 1: inch hands. But that's a good way for him. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um,

905
00:43:35,960 --> 00:43:39,000
Speaker 1: let's see here, hope there's a Jacqueline Roy. Uh the

906
00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:42,480
Speaker 1: LSU guy of six three three oh five. I thought

907
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,400
Speaker 1: he'd be heavier. Maybe he's trying to trim a little bit.

908
00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,120
Speaker 1: I'm sure you know, if you're gonna run, you don't

909
00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:48,719
Speaker 1: want to come in at three thirty if you gotta

910
00:43:48,760 --> 00:43:50,520
Speaker 1: take your shirt off and stand in your underwearth too?

911
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:53,799
Speaker 1: What is that too? There's there's always the embarrassment, right,

912
00:43:54,160 --> 00:43:57,759
Speaker 1: I don't wanna be that sloppy. I'm going to the

913
00:43:57,800 --> 00:44:03,640
Speaker 1: beach man. Uh, let's see he uh, Mazie Smith. He's

914
00:44:03,640 --> 00:44:07,359
Speaker 1: three twenty six three three twenty three sixty three. That's

915
00:44:07,480 --> 00:44:09,560
Speaker 1: a little taller than I expected from him too, So

916
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:12,160
Speaker 1: his drills are going to be impressive. Yeah. If I

917
00:44:12,160 --> 00:44:14,880
Speaker 1: could break this down by position here, that might make

918
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 1: it a little bit easier. Probably I can about that.

919
00:44:17,719 --> 00:44:20,000
Speaker 1: I'm sure they're bringing him in. Look at me, I'm

920
00:44:20,040 --> 00:44:23,640
Speaker 1: like a like I just learned how to use the things. Yeah,

921
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:26,719
Speaker 1: he is the defensive interior defensive line. That's what we

922
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:28,879
Speaker 1: want to see. That's all. It's gonna that's all. It's

923
00:44:28,880 --> 00:44:30,680
Speaker 1: gonna be available for the one I would think. Yeah,

924
00:44:30,680 --> 00:44:32,399
Speaker 1: those are the guys that are getting measured today. Then

925
00:44:32,440 --> 00:44:34,680
Speaker 1: maybe some of the edges. Ah, there we go. Here

926
00:44:34,719 --> 00:44:37,719
Speaker 1: we go get a little less work, all right. Anybody

927
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:41,880
Speaker 1: that we didn't do here yet? Mazie Smith Eka Noia

928
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,120
Speaker 1: six three three thirty five. I thought he might be

929
00:44:45,160 --> 00:44:47,000
Speaker 1: a little tall though. I thought he might be heavier

930
00:44:47,000 --> 00:44:49,719
Speaker 1: than that. How bigger his hands? Uh ten in that quarter? Ok,

931
00:44:49,880 --> 00:44:51,680
Speaker 1: they don't do arm length on. I don't see arm

932
00:44:51,760 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: length on here yet. Yeah, that'll be coming out later.

933
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:59,400
Speaker 1: Zack Pickens, Uh, he's intriguing. Yeah, South Carolina R Yeah

934
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:02,000
Speaker 1: six four two ninety one. Yeah, I think he fits

935
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:05,600
Speaker 1: the cam to its. Aaron Smith mold a little bit.

936
00:45:05,719 --> 00:45:08,839
Speaker 1: He's pretty active too. I like that athletic guy. Let's

937
00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: see what they go here for the edges. I didn't

938
00:45:11,280 --> 00:45:13,520
Speaker 1: think they were out yet, but maybe they are. Some

939
00:45:13,560 --> 00:45:16,839
Speaker 1: of them were so yeah. Um yeah, so he got

940
00:45:16,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: the ZOOMA. We talked about him, right. Will McDonald the

941
00:45:21,640 --> 00:45:24,640
Speaker 1: fourth sixty three and five eights two thirty nine. I

942
00:45:24,680 --> 00:45:27,959
Speaker 1: was worried about his like, he's real narrow, wasted unbelievably

943
00:45:28,040 --> 00:45:30,960
Speaker 1: long arms. He's a really good player, and he has

944
00:45:30,960 --> 00:45:33,480
Speaker 1: a lot of sacks. He's gonna test well. I just

945
00:45:33,480 --> 00:45:35,719
Speaker 1: wonder if he's a little too slim. Is he a

946
00:45:35,760 --> 00:45:38,440
Speaker 1: designated pass rusher only? I mean, obviously, if he's a

947
00:45:38,520 --> 00:45:40,640
Speaker 1: two thirty nine now at sixty three and five eights,

948
00:45:40,680 --> 00:45:42,759
Speaker 1: he should be able to get to two forty five

949
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:45,240
Speaker 1: to fifty. I would think it's just his his build

950
00:45:45,360 --> 00:45:47,440
Speaker 1: is so I don't say dig key, but it's he's

951
00:45:47,440 --> 00:45:49,560
Speaker 1: got a little waste and he's long limbed. I mean

952
00:45:49,600 --> 00:45:51,640
Speaker 1: he's it looks like a basketball player. That's okay. I

953
00:45:51,640 --> 00:45:53,440
Speaker 1: could put him, Yeah, you could put weight on him.

954
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:57,439
Speaker 1: I'm sure. Zach Harrison six five and a half two

955
00:45:57,600 --> 00:46:00,759
Speaker 1: seventy four. I hear his arms are all starks, like

956
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: really yes, and he's a crazy test starks like, I mean,

957
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 1: rare for his position. I think that's somebody to watch. Yeah,

958
00:46:14,600 --> 00:46:17,279
Speaker 1: so that's what we have thus far on the heights waves.

959
00:46:17,320 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: We'll see how that. Hell, we'll check get him in there.

960
00:46:19,800 --> 00:46:24,160
Speaker 1: But yeah, the defensive tackles, Uh, this class is interesting

961
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:27,200
Speaker 1: and you know, I think the Steelers could definitely add

962
00:46:27,239 --> 00:46:32,799
Speaker 1: at that position. Um, yeah, I mean they'll either sign

963
00:46:32,800 --> 00:46:37,239
Speaker 1: Ogan Jobi or they won't or I'm still interested. I

964
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:39,879
Speaker 1: still think they draft a two hundred and eighty five

965
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:42,000
Speaker 1: or bigger defensive player. Yeah, you know, no matter what,

966
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: because here's so you know, if you look at it.

967
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:47,879
Speaker 1: I mean, Chris Warmley played a lot of snaps last year. Uh,

968
00:46:47,920 --> 00:46:50,200
Speaker 1: and it has been a valuable guy. But he's coming

969
00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:52,520
Speaker 1: off an ACL Yeah, and he's not getting any younger

970
00:46:52,600 --> 00:46:54,439
Speaker 1: and he's gonna be thirty. And I want to get

971
00:46:54,440 --> 00:46:57,799
Speaker 1: younger at that position and continue and and more importantly,

972
00:46:58,160 --> 00:47:01,360
Speaker 1: have those guys learn under Cam, oh, without question. And

973
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:05,600
Speaker 1: I wouldn't I wouldn't have a problem with having Cam

974
00:47:05,600 --> 00:47:08,239
Speaker 1: and a bunch of guys under twenty five. Hey, I

975
00:47:08,239 --> 00:47:11,359
Speaker 1: hear what you're saying, and Warmly to me is kind

976
00:47:11,400 --> 00:47:13,960
Speaker 1: of your fallback plan. Yeah, you can always bring him

977
00:47:13,960 --> 00:47:16,080
Speaker 1: back in camp. And with his injury, no one's gonna

978
00:47:16,080 --> 00:47:18,160
Speaker 1: probably sign him for a while. I mean, you probably

979
00:47:18,239 --> 00:47:21,200
Speaker 1: is floating out there post draft or in that neighborhood.

980
00:47:21,239 --> 00:47:23,400
Speaker 1: And if he could even have a side even you

981
00:47:23,400 --> 00:47:25,160
Speaker 1: could even say, Hey, we're gonna draft one, but we're

982
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,239
Speaker 1: still gonna bring you in one year. D O at

983
00:47:27,360 --> 00:47:30,480
Speaker 1: x X amount um I know noses aren't as important

984
00:47:30,480 --> 00:47:32,080
Speaker 1: as they used to be in terms of snapcounts and

985
00:47:32,120 --> 00:47:34,560
Speaker 1: all those things. But I don't think Alua Lou's back

986
00:47:34,840 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 1: and true noses. I think Adams is a two. Yeah,

987
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 1: it doesn't mean you have to find a one, But

988
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,759
Speaker 1: do you better have another one? Do you need necessarily

989
00:47:43,800 --> 00:47:48,319
Speaker 1: if Adams is your nose? No? Um, how much base

990
00:47:48,360 --> 00:47:51,120
Speaker 1: are you playing? Not a ton? But you play the Raven.

991
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:54,279
Speaker 1: But if I draft, if I drafted Brassee and ask

992
00:47:54,360 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 1: him to do that, he could, He's I've watched tape

993
00:47:56,560 --> 00:47:59,200
Speaker 1: on him. I see him on the nose. Now, I

994
00:47:59,200 --> 00:48:01,400
Speaker 1: don't have to put Cam one of those that I

995
00:48:01,440 --> 00:48:03,239
Speaker 1: don't want to do that. But he can too, But

996
00:48:03,320 --> 00:48:05,239
Speaker 1: he can, right, But I don't want to have to

997
00:48:05,280 --> 00:48:06,880
Speaker 1: do that. So if I can take a guy like

998
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,520
Speaker 1: Bersee and put him on the nose and keep Cam

999
00:48:09,520 --> 00:48:13,320
Speaker 1: at defensive end, yeah, I mean depending on the opponent

1000
00:48:13,400 --> 00:48:14,719
Speaker 1: that week. I mean, I don't want a ton of

1001
00:48:14,719 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: snaps or Bersee or Cam or any of those guys

1002
00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,439
Speaker 1: handling double teams time and time again. You're not gonna

1003
00:48:19,440 --> 00:48:21,960
Speaker 1: play with the nose on the field. No, you know,

1004
00:48:22,040 --> 00:48:24,600
Speaker 1: sixty snaps. But I also don't want to. I mean,

1005
00:48:24,600 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 1: what if Adams gets hurt? Well, you know what I mean,

1006
00:48:27,320 --> 00:48:30,640
Speaker 1: you know, but if you found Adams on the you know,

1007
00:48:30,760 --> 00:48:33,640
Speaker 1: basically on the street two years ago, I just think

1008
00:48:33,640 --> 00:48:36,000
Speaker 1: he's a high quality two. Yeah, you know, in the

1009
00:48:36,040 --> 00:48:38,279
Speaker 1: perfect world. But a high quality one doesn't play that

1010
00:48:38,320 --> 00:48:40,480
Speaker 1: make snaps. So what that's the problem. That's the that's

1011
00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,960
Speaker 1: the conundrum that you come into. You if you draft

1012
00:48:43,040 --> 00:48:46,000
Speaker 1: one of those guys early, he's gonna be standing on

1013
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,960
Speaker 1: the sideline most of the time. Yeah, it's much And

1014
00:48:48,960 --> 00:48:51,799
Speaker 1: there would be games with Casey Hampton play fifteen snaps, yeah,

1015
00:48:51,840 --> 00:48:53,680
Speaker 1: because the other team knows you got that guy too,

1016
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,279
Speaker 1: and they're not gonna it's a it's a catch twenty two.

1017
00:48:56,320 --> 00:48:57,799
Speaker 1: But if you don't have that guy, then they're gonna

1018
00:48:57,800 --> 00:49:00,200
Speaker 1: load up and run up. You're gonna yeah and do

1019
00:49:00,320 --> 00:49:03,000
Speaker 1: that all day. So it's an interesting how much do

1020
00:49:03,040 --> 00:49:06,040
Speaker 1: you value? That is always a balancing act, It definitely is.

1021
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:10,000
Speaker 1: And so but yeah, I think those lines are getting

1022
00:49:10,000 --> 00:49:12,560
Speaker 1: a little more blurred now too, because you you know

1023
00:49:12,600 --> 00:49:14,120
Speaker 1: that if you take a guy that can rush the

1024
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:17,600
Speaker 1: passer right, and you can also overset that by putting

1025
00:49:17,640 --> 00:49:20,759
Speaker 1: Ogenjobi and Cam both in the a gap there and

1026
00:49:21,040 --> 00:49:24,239
Speaker 1: you know, head up over the guards or whatever. You

1027
00:49:24,239 --> 00:49:26,799
Speaker 1: don't have to have lineup someone knows over the center

1028
00:49:26,880 --> 00:49:31,000
Speaker 1: snap after, Absolutely so, Steeler fans. The Steelers media platforms

1029
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,040
Speaker 1: are loaded with great Steelers Combine content all week long.

1030
00:49:34,400 --> 00:49:37,520
Speaker 1: Visit Steelers dot com and the Steelers official mobile app

1031
00:49:37,560 --> 00:49:40,719
Speaker 1: to hear live and on demand SNR audio content, exclusive

1032
00:49:40,719 --> 00:49:44,279
Speaker 1: one on one video interviews with key decision makers, and

1033
00:49:44,520 --> 00:49:48,320
Speaker 1: daily editorial coverage. The team also has great throwback Combine

1034
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,759
Speaker 1: workout highlights on current Steelers for you to check out.

1035
00:49:50,960 --> 00:49:54,640
Speaker 1: That's all this week on the Steelers media platforms. He

1036
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,400
Speaker 1: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale, Lolly. You're listening to

1037
00:49:57,440 --> 00:49:59,719
Speaker 1: the Drive here on Steelers Nation Radio. We'll be back

1038
00:49:59,760 --> 00:50:01,759
Speaker 1: with Hour two right after this