1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,400 --> 00:00:04,720 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:09,719 Speaker 2: Welcome in our number three Clay Travis buck Sexton Show. 4 00:00:09,760 --> 00:00:13,119 Speaker 2: Appreciate all of you hanging out with us. Go subscribe 5 00:00:13,240 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 2: to the podcast. Go subscribe to us on on YouTube. 6 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:24,400 Speaker 2: If you use any social media platform, you type in 7 00:00:24,480 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Clay Travis, you type in buck Sexton, and you, my friends, 8 00:00:28,880 --> 00:00:34,000 Speaker 2: can be well on your way to helping hopefully to 9 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,199 Speaker 2: spread the word on this show. Now, a bit of 10 00:00:37,240 --> 00:00:42,080 Speaker 2: news out there. The FED has raised interest rates another 11 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:48,440 Speaker 2: quarter of a point. That just happened, stock market relatively quiet. 12 00:00:48,720 --> 00:00:52,400 Speaker 2: The more significant thing than the quarter point raise, again, 13 00:00:52,440 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 2: this is the most rapid rise in interest rates we 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:01:00,840 Speaker 2: have seen in two generations in forty years. Magnificant than that, 15 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:05,000 Speaker 2: at least, is that the Fed said that they anticipate 16 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: that they will not be raising rates anymore right now. 17 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:14,440 Speaker 2: So what that means we will see how long that 18 00:01:14,520 --> 00:01:17,600 Speaker 2: could last. But again, the stock market, I would imagine 19 00:01:17,640 --> 00:01:22,200 Speaker 2: would react more positively at least to the idea that 20 00:01:22,240 --> 00:01:25,160 Speaker 2: the Fed is not going to be raising rates according 21 00:01:25,240 --> 00:01:28,360 Speaker 2: to this statement, another quarter point raise, but they are 22 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:31,759 Speaker 2: not going to be raising it anymore. Okay, first, couple 23 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: of hours, we have covered a wide variety of topics 24 00:01:34,959 --> 00:01:38,640 Speaker 2: Hunter Biden decisions on charging According to The Washington Post 25 00:01:39,240 --> 00:01:42,360 Speaker 2: looming closer and closer, that was a breaking news story. 26 00:01:42,520 --> 00:01:44,520 Speaker 3: Also a breaking news story. 27 00:01:45,080 --> 00:01:48,400 Speaker 2: The Nashville Police say they will not be releasing the 28 00:01:48,600 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 2: Trans Manifesto because of an issue with litigation. We obviously 29 00:01:56,400 --> 00:01:59,240 Speaker 2: have been talking a lot about that, and frankly, Buck, 30 00:02:00,120 --> 00:02:02,960 Speaker 2: you and I are some of the only media outlets 31 00:02:02,960 --> 00:02:07,120 Speaker 2: that are really hammering on this Trans Manifesto related story 32 00:02:07,160 --> 00:02:10,960 Speaker 2: and the fact that it's not being released. The last 33 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:14,919 Speaker 2: Tucker Carlson show, which is a good segue here, I 34 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,960 Speaker 2: was a guest on Friday before Tucker was fired on Monday, 35 00:02:20,639 --> 00:02:21,720 Speaker 2: or removed from his show. 36 00:02:21,720 --> 00:02:23,280 Speaker 3: He may not technically have been fired. 37 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:27,280 Speaker 2: I was on and Tucker wanted to talk about the 38 00:02:27,320 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 2: fact that this manifesto had not been released, and so 39 00:02:30,160 --> 00:02:34,000 Speaker 2: that was the topic of discussion we had. Over the 40 00:02:34,120 --> 00:02:37,000 Speaker 2: last I would say nine days or so. There have 41 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 2: been abundant leaks coming out of Tucker behind the scenes stories. 42 00:02:42,919 --> 00:02:45,639 Speaker 2: It's one today in the New York Times about text 43 00:02:45,639 --> 00:02:49,399 Speaker 2: messages that Tucker may have sent. There also have been 44 00:02:49,880 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: behind the scenes videos of Tucker that were released through 45 00:02:54,800 --> 00:02:59,400 Speaker 2: media matters. All of these things going on that are 46 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: in many way, I believe it's fair to say designed 47 00:03:02,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 2: to make Tucker look bad. I actually think most of 48 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,120 Speaker 2: the leaks have made Tucker look pretty good. 49 00:03:08,480 --> 00:03:08,679 Speaker 3: Now. 50 00:03:08,760 --> 00:03:12,080 Speaker 2: Look, I am a Fox News employee. I sold my 51 00:03:12,160 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 2: company out Kick, as you guys know, two years ago, 52 00:03:15,040 --> 00:03:18,840 Speaker 2: to Fox. In my experience, Fox has been very good 53 00:03:18,880 --> 00:03:22,080 Speaker 2: to work with. But I also understand that in the 54 00:03:22,080 --> 00:03:25,880 Speaker 2: grand scheme of things, you never when you are not 55 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:29,000 Speaker 2: the boss, you don't ever get to make all the decisions. 56 00:03:29,400 --> 00:03:31,840 Speaker 2: And sometimes bosses make decisions and you look at me 57 00:03:31,880 --> 00:03:34,600 Speaker 2: and say, I don't know. I don't know all the details. 58 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:37,320 Speaker 2: I don't know all the reasons that this occurred. Like 59 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,040 Speaker 2: many of you, I enjoyed being a guest. I also 60 00:03:40,200 --> 00:03:44,000 Speaker 2: enjoyed watching Tucker Show and Buck. I've been fired several 61 00:03:44,040 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 2: times in media. This may shock some of you. Some 62 00:03:46,760 --> 00:03:48,760 Speaker 2: of you may be maybe out there like you need 63 00:03:48,800 --> 00:03:52,560 Speaker 2: to be fired again. Travis, I hate you. But when 64 00:03:52,560 --> 00:03:56,360 Speaker 2: I started out Kick, the reason why I started OutKick 65 00:03:56,560 --> 00:04:00,560 Speaker 2: was because I had just had the rug yanked out 66 00:04:00,560 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: from underneath me. I was working at FanHouse. I loved 67 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:07,400 Speaker 2: my job, and suddenly I didn't have a job anymore. 68 00:04:07,880 --> 00:04:09,120 Speaker 2: And I know there are a lot of you out 69 00:04:09,160 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 2: there that have small businesses as well. And that's what 70 00:04:11,400 --> 00:04:14,000 Speaker 2: OutKick was when I started it. I just made the 71 00:04:14,040 --> 00:04:17,000 Speaker 2: decision at that point in time. Buck, Hey, if I'm 72 00:04:17,000 --> 00:04:20,479 Speaker 2: going to fail, I want to fail because I made 73 00:04:20,600 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 2: every decision and I made wrong choices. 74 00:04:24,000 --> 00:04:24,920 Speaker 3: It ended up being a. 75 00:04:24,800 --> 00:04:28,200 Speaker 2: Great opportunity for me to start my own business. But 76 00:04:28,360 --> 00:04:32,400 Speaker 2: unless you are the boss, you serve at the beck 77 00:04:32,480 --> 00:04:35,880 Speaker 2: and call of your employer, and your employer no matter 78 00:04:35,920 --> 00:04:37,640 Speaker 2: how good you may be. And I guarantee you there's 79 00:04:37,640 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 2: a lot of you out there listening who have found 80 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,839 Speaker 2: yourself in this experience. You or someone else that you 81 00:04:42,920 --> 00:04:46,880 Speaker 2: think is really skilled may suddenly lose their job. 82 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:51,120 Speaker 3: Russia got fired seven times. Yeah, seven times. So the 83 00:04:51,160 --> 00:04:55,240 Speaker 3: greatest in the medium in history had seven different people 84 00:04:55,279 --> 00:04:57,599 Speaker 3: who said, you know, you can't work here anymore? 85 00:04:57,680 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 2: Right, say about that seven times. I've been fired so 86 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:04,080 Speaker 2: several times myself, and so I wanted to control things. 87 00:05:04,560 --> 00:05:07,080 Speaker 2: And Buck, I know you feel strongly about this too, 88 00:05:07,120 --> 00:05:08,640 Speaker 2: because you've been a guest a bunch of times on 89 00:05:08,680 --> 00:05:10,159 Speaker 2: Tucker and he's a friend of yours and you know 90 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,680 Speaker 2: him well as these leaks are continuing. I mean it 91 00:05:15,120 --> 00:05:17,240 Speaker 2: just here's a couple of things, A couple things. 92 00:05:17,279 --> 00:05:19,000 Speaker 3: First of all, I've never been paid a dollar by 93 00:05:19,000 --> 00:05:21,000 Speaker 3: Fox News, which is I think a shock when some 94 00:05:21,040 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 3: people hear that, because they've seen me going on for years. 95 00:05:23,080 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 3: Fox News is literally never even They never even you know, 96 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,640 Speaker 3: sent me a reimbursement check for like taking a cab 97 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 3: or something. So I've never gotten a single solitary dollar 98 00:05:31,320 --> 00:05:35,440 Speaker 3: from Fox Okay, never been an employee, never been a contributor. 99 00:05:36,000 --> 00:05:39,719 Speaker 3: So here's the first order of business. Where is this 100 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,719 Speaker 3: stuff coming from? Yes, where are the leaks coming from? 101 00:05:43,960 --> 00:05:47,279 Speaker 3: What is going on here? Because one thing in the 102 00:05:47,320 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: media business is you have to trust. You know, we 103 00:05:50,360 --> 00:05:53,839 Speaker 3: have on this show something that we're very fortunate. We 104 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:57,160 Speaker 3: inherited Rush's team. So we inherited the best in the business, 105 00:05:57,200 --> 00:06:01,120 Speaker 3: not only in terms of their being really good at 106 00:06:01,120 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 3: what they do, but also proving a loyalty and a 107 00:06:06,200 --> 00:06:10,320 Speaker 3: trustworthiness to Rush and to his enterprise, you know, personally 108 00:06:10,360 --> 00:06:13,120 Speaker 3: and professionally for you know, over twenty years in the 109 00:06:13,160 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: case of everyone who's kind of senior personnel on our show. Right, 110 00:06:17,320 --> 00:06:20,919 Speaker 3: So that's that's an amazing thing because anyone in the 111 00:06:20,960 --> 00:06:24,120 Speaker 3: media knows if you have people around you in your 112 00:06:24,120 --> 00:06:28,839 Speaker 3: immediate sphere who want to, you know, cut what you 113 00:06:28,839 --> 00:06:31,719 Speaker 3: say off camera out of context, who want to try 114 00:06:31,760 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 3: to get some kind of opo or compromising material on 115 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:40,560 Speaker 3: you based upon off air conversations, you know, it's you. 116 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: You're in a business where we're talking a lot, saying 117 00:06:42,560 --> 00:06:44,680 Speaker 3: a lot of things that puts you in a precarious 118 00:06:44,680 --> 00:06:49,360 Speaker 3: position pretty quickly. So, first off, where is this stuff 119 00:06:49,400 --> 00:06:52,080 Speaker 3: coming from? Megan Kelly has already come out, who was 120 00:06:52,120 --> 00:06:56,000 Speaker 3: obviously a huge, huge personality herself at Fox News for 121 00:06:56,040 --> 00:06:58,400 Speaker 3: many years, and she has straight up said that this 122 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:01,880 Speaker 3: is coming from Fox. There are other people who are 123 00:07:01,920 --> 00:07:04,960 Speaker 3: suggesting that there's some sort of mole or even a 124 00:07:06,000 --> 00:07:09,840 Speaker 3: hack into the line or something else. But we do 125 00:07:09,960 --> 00:07:12,200 Speaker 3: want to figure this one out because you know, you 126 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: shouldn't have a situation where Tucker has not has not 127 00:07:15,200 --> 00:07:18,560 Speaker 3: attacked Fox, he has not attacked any Fox personnel, He 128 00:07:18,640 --> 00:07:23,200 Speaker 3: has not done anything dirty at all in a professional 129 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:25,480 Speaker 3: relation to Fox. He has conducted himself like nothing but 130 00:07:25,600 --> 00:07:27,960 Speaker 3: a gentleman up to this point in time. And I 131 00:07:27,960 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 3: would defy anybody to find any evidence to the contrary. 132 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:32,720 Speaker 3: And I would want to hear what that could possibly be. Okay, 133 00:07:32,720 --> 00:07:34,400 Speaker 3: So the one thing is where are the leaks coming 134 00:07:34,440 --> 00:07:36,840 Speaker 3: from a lot of people have already decided they think 135 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: this is coming from his former employer, but there are 136 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 3: people who say, hold on, we don't know that, so 137 00:07:41,360 --> 00:07:44,080 Speaker 3: we have to see all right, Then there's the what 138 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:47,360 Speaker 3: are we learning about the leaked information about Tucker Carlson? 139 00:07:47,880 --> 00:07:50,480 Speaker 3: And for the people that know him from his work, 140 00:07:50,520 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: and I think even people that know him from you know, 141 00:07:53,240 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 3: day to day life, they're like, Yeah, this is Tucker. 142 00:07:56,200 --> 00:07:59,880 Speaker 3: He's a reverent, he's funny, he's low key, he's talented, 143 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,640 Speaker 3: he's uh, you know, he's he's off the cuff. And 144 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:05,720 Speaker 3: his whole thing is he's willing to say things on 145 00:08:05,840 --> 00:08:08,600 Speaker 3: air and off air that he believes to be true, 146 00:08:08,600 --> 00:08:10,520 Speaker 3: that he believes to be self effacing, and that he 147 00:08:10,600 --> 00:08:14,000 Speaker 3: believes may get people in trouble for saying who aren't 148 00:08:14,040 --> 00:08:15,880 Speaker 3: in a position to say it, and he wants to 149 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:19,600 Speaker 3: change that. So I don't think there's been any for 150 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 3: for people who watch that show. I don't think there's 151 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,640 Speaker 3: been any brand damage to Tucker from any of this. 152 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:30,240 Speaker 3: It's it's interesting. I think there's even more of a 153 00:08:30,400 --> 00:08:34,680 Speaker 3: rally rally around Tucker effect from some of this stuff, 154 00:08:35,080 --> 00:08:37,319 Speaker 3: and it still leaves out there what is going to 155 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:39,960 Speaker 3: happen next? But so that would be that's my top 156 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 3: line on this. You're seeing people who are trying to 157 00:08:44,040 --> 00:08:45,800 Speaker 3: make a big deal of this and trying to suggest that, 158 00:08:45,840 --> 00:08:47,959 Speaker 3: Oh my gosh, and like this is why and whatever. 159 00:08:49,080 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 3: I don't know anybody who watches Tucker who actually because 160 00:08:52,240 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 3: the people hate him, right, it's a clays We see 161 00:08:53,880 --> 00:08:56,200 Speaker 3: this all the time. Oh you know, how many people 162 00:08:56,240 --> 00:08:58,719 Speaker 3: have you heard I hated I hated Rush Bloomball, He's 163 00:08:58,720 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: such a bad guy. And you go, literally, did you 164 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 3: ever one time in your entire life listening to Russell 165 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:07,080 Speaker 3: and Bush? No, but you know, Al Frankin and John 166 00:09:07,200 --> 00:09:09,720 Speaker 3: Stewart and blah blah, they said he's terrible. You know, 167 00:09:10,520 --> 00:09:12,640 Speaker 3: you have so much of that in the media. Not 168 00:09:12,720 --> 00:09:16,480 Speaker 3: a single person, not a single person, I think, who 169 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:19,720 Speaker 3: is a Tucker watcher feels like anything other than what 170 00:09:19,840 --> 00:09:22,199 Speaker 3: happened to our guy? Why isn't he still on the air? 171 00:09:22,400 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 3: And the Tucker that you're seeing is the Tucker that 172 00:09:24,920 --> 00:09:27,680 Speaker 3: we've all expected and known for years on an off camera. 173 00:09:28,160 --> 00:09:30,240 Speaker 3: I think that's the real perception of the people who 174 00:09:30,360 --> 00:09:31,240 Speaker 3: pay attention to it. 175 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:34,880 Speaker 2: I think you get blown up, buck when your public 176 00:09:34,960 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 2: persona is different than your private behavior. 177 00:09:38,360 --> 00:09:39,240 Speaker 3: And I don't think. 178 00:09:39,480 --> 00:09:41,520 Speaker 2: Look, I don't think anybody out there who does what 179 00:09:41,600 --> 00:09:45,960 Speaker 2: we do thinks that it's fair when a off air 180 00:09:46,520 --> 00:09:51,240 Speaker 2: Mike moment or an off something that is not intended 181 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:55,160 Speaker 2: for public consumption, that is clearly not intended for public consumption. 182 00:09:55,280 --> 00:09:59,240 Speaker 2: For instance, I wouldn't I would be upset if one 183 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 2: of our conversation during commercial break suddenly gets leaked, right, 184 00:10:04,520 --> 00:10:08,360 Speaker 2: not because what we're saying during commercial break is really 185 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:10,640 Speaker 2: very much different than what we say on the air, 186 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:14,480 Speaker 2: but just because I would think, who actually grab that 187 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:18,520 Speaker 2: and share it like that is a yes, sorry someone. 188 00:10:18,240 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 3: Here unless you believe the the and I don't think I. Look, 189 00:10:21,600 --> 00:10:23,760 Speaker 3: I think very few people do believe that there's a 190 00:10:23,840 --> 00:10:26,800 Speaker 3: hack or a mole. But there's a betrayal here of 191 00:10:27,320 --> 00:10:30,400 Speaker 3: sharing information about somebody who there was a relationship with, 192 00:10:31,080 --> 00:10:36,840 Speaker 3: who you know, had an expectation of some off air privacy, 193 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,320 Speaker 3: because look, you could do this. Everyone listening to this 194 00:10:39,440 --> 00:10:41,920 Speaker 3: knows this. Oh you say, okay, well, you know you're 195 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:44,280 Speaker 3: an on air person. And Tucker was an on air personality, 196 00:10:44,400 --> 00:10:46,960 Speaker 3: so he has to expect all of us. My friends 197 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:49,959 Speaker 3: can be on air personalities in any job. You can 198 00:10:50,000 --> 00:10:53,320 Speaker 3: be a greeter at kmart, or actually Kmart doesn't exist anywhere, 199 00:10:53,400 --> 00:10:55,800 Speaker 3: does it. You could be a greeter at mark Walmart, 200 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:58,600 Speaker 3: thank you. That would be really tough. A greeter at 201 00:10:58,640 --> 00:11:01,120 Speaker 3: Walmart and one of your colleagues, you know, in the 202 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:03,400 Speaker 3: break room, pulls out a video of you and decides 203 00:11:03,440 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 3: that they're going to share it online. And you're sharing 204 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:07,880 Speaker 3: your political thoughts or something. Now, you know how it feels. 205 00:11:07,960 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 3: Right if you don't know you're being recorded in that moment, 206 00:11:10,040 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 3: it can happen absolutely anybody. And I think that there's 207 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,840 Speaker 3: also a sense here too of how many people really 208 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:18,679 Speaker 3: believe that they don't say things. Who doesn't say things 209 00:11:18,760 --> 00:11:21,400 Speaker 3: in private or think about things in private, whether they're 210 00:11:21,400 --> 00:11:23,679 Speaker 3: talking to family or friends, but you know, not on air. 211 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:25,120 Speaker 3: You know, when we talk about something here, we know 212 00:11:25,120 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 3: it's going to millions of people, Yes, and there's a 213 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:29,800 Speaker 3: responsibility with that. This is why we're careful with language. 214 00:11:29,880 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: You know, alleged this or don't have evidence. 215 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:35,000 Speaker 2: For so far, we haven't said a band word on 216 00:11:35,080 --> 00:11:37,840 Speaker 2: the air, right, You know, there are expectations for what 217 00:11:37,880 --> 00:11:39,880 Speaker 2: we say over the microphone that we live by, and 218 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:40,679 Speaker 2: we understand. 219 00:11:41,200 --> 00:11:44,280 Speaker 3: But you know, you're home with your wife or with 220 00:11:44,320 --> 00:11:46,160 Speaker 3: you know, one of your family members, or I'm home 221 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 3: with my wife and we're having a conversation for someone 222 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:50,880 Speaker 3: to intrude on that. Now, you could say, oh, but 223 00:11:50,920 --> 00:11:52,960 Speaker 3: it's going on in the workplace, all right, Yeah, there's 224 00:11:53,040 --> 00:11:55,240 Speaker 3: levels here. But I mean, how many of you would 225 00:11:55,240 --> 00:11:57,360 Speaker 3: even feel comfortable if you found out that your workplace 226 00:11:57,400 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 3: was micd up twenty four to seven. You know, everything 227 00:11:59,800 --> 00:12:02,079 Speaker 3: you say all the time is going to go over Mike. 228 00:12:02,200 --> 00:12:04,320 Speaker 3: Who doesn't grumble about their job a little bit, who 229 00:12:04,320 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 3: doesn't have moments where they think leadership? I don't know 230 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:09,120 Speaker 3: anybody who doesn't think that at some point the people 231 00:12:09,120 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 3: who are signing their checks are making a mistake or whatever. 232 00:12:12,240 --> 00:12:14,640 Speaker 3: Now it's insubordinate to go say that to their face, 233 00:12:15,240 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 3: but to share it on what you think is a 234 00:12:16,760 --> 00:12:18,719 Speaker 3: private moment with somebody and then get blown up over it. 235 00:12:18,760 --> 00:12:21,679 Speaker 3: Which this is another thing that's happened with Tucker that 236 00:12:21,720 --> 00:12:23,520 Speaker 3: I think feels like a real violation. 237 00:12:23,720 --> 00:12:26,679 Speaker 2: Yeah, And what I would say, however, even with understanding 238 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 2: all of that, is I also think if our private 239 00:12:30,480 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: conversations were leaked in between breaks, for instance, most people 240 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,199 Speaker 2: would say, yeah, that's basically what I would think Clay 241 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,240 Speaker 2: and Buck's private conversation would sound like. 242 00:12:40,280 --> 00:12:41,880 Speaker 3: It sounds like what we say on air, just with 243 00:12:41,960 --> 00:12:43,880 Speaker 3: the occasional curse word if you really want to know. 244 00:12:43,960 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 2: Yes, And so if that were to happen, I don't 245 00:12:47,960 --> 00:12:51,000 Speaker 2: think it would actually matter that much. To your point, Yes, 246 00:12:51,120 --> 00:12:54,080 Speaker 2: the fact that it's out there is a betrayal. But 247 00:12:54,400 --> 00:12:57,160 Speaker 2: what I see in so far the public data and 248 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:02,199 Speaker 2: public release from this Tucker situation is it basically solidifies 249 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:04,880 Speaker 2: that there's not that much of a difference between Tucker 250 00:13:04,920 --> 00:13:08,360 Speaker 2: Carlson on air and Tucker Carlson in real life. And 251 00:13:08,440 --> 00:13:11,400 Speaker 2: to the extent that that is true no matter who 252 00:13:11,440 --> 00:13:14,720 Speaker 2: you are as a media figure, that is I think 253 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:18,160 Speaker 2: what people want more than anything. I think you crave 254 00:13:18,400 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 2: everyone out there listening right now desperately authenticity because we 255 00:13:23,520 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 2: live in an inauthentic age, and so you'll forgive Buck 256 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: or me or anybody else in media if we sometimes 257 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:34,160 Speaker 2: get things wrong. What you won't forgive, and I don't 258 00:13:34,160 --> 00:13:37,240 Speaker 2: blame you because I feel the same way is if 259 00:13:37,400 --> 00:13:41,319 Speaker 2: someone is publicly pretending to be one thing and privately 260 00:13:41,440 --> 00:13:45,920 Speaker 2: they are another. That hypocrisy, that dichotomy, that difference between 261 00:13:45,960 --> 00:13:50,600 Speaker 2: reality and public performance is what blows people up. And 262 00:13:50,640 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 2: I have not seen any release or leak so far 263 00:13:54,040 --> 00:13:57,200 Speaker 2: that does anything other than make people who are Tucker 264 00:13:57,280 --> 00:13:59,880 Speaker 2: fans think, oh, that's why I'm a fan of that. 265 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:03,360 Speaker 3: I also just say radio as a medium, it's harder 266 00:14:03,400 --> 00:14:05,319 Speaker 3: to you know, Clay and I have both done all 267 00:14:05,320 --> 00:14:07,600 Speaker 3: the other stuff out there TV and everything is still 268 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 3: doing TV. It's harder to hide for three hours a 269 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:12,520 Speaker 3: day on radio. I can't act. You can't do it. 270 00:14:12,559 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 3: I couldn't do it. And this audience knows that. I mean, 271 00:14:14,920 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 3: you all got to know Rush so well over so 272 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:20,080 Speaker 3: many years. And it's the same thing when people come 273 00:14:20,120 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 3: up to us who listen to the show every day, 274 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 3: you know how we are because in radio it's just 275 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,640 Speaker 3: it's too much of a of a trip through the 276 00:14:27,680 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 3: mind of the person talking to you or in Arcades 277 00:14:29,880 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 3: minds for three hours every day. 278 00:14:32,960 --> 00:14:33,120 Speaker 4: You know. 279 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:36,920 Speaker 3: Inflation has affected everything out there. And look, it's really 280 00:14:36,960 --> 00:14:39,760 Speaker 3: stubborn right now for gun owners. The cost of getting 281 00:14:39,760 --> 00:14:42,600 Speaker 3: the range and buying AMMO and training, it's just gone 282 00:14:42,880 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 3: way up, thankfully. 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Get yours at mantisx dot com. 297 00:15:23,240 --> 00:15:27,960 Speaker 3: That's m A and tisx dot com. 298 00:15:28,280 --> 00:15:32,960 Speaker 1: From the front lines of Freedom and Truth Clave Travis 299 00:15:33,000 --> 00:15:34,359 Speaker 1: and Buck Sexton. 300 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 3: Welcome back to Clay and Bob. We'll be joined by 301 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 3: Raymond Arroyo in just a few minutes here. We're excited 302 00:15:39,320 --> 00:15:41,840 Speaker 3: about that and he's going to be here with us 303 00:15:42,280 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 3: in studio in Nashville, Tennessee. And we've got a whole 304 00:15:47,960 --> 00:15:49,160 Speaker 3: lot more to get to with you. I don't even 305 00:15:49,200 --> 00:15:52,440 Speaker 3: know if we'd mentioned yet that there's a possible false 306 00:15:52,520 --> 00:15:57,480 Speaker 3: flag assassination attempt against Vladimir Putin that the Kremlin is 307 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 3: saying came from with a drone strike. There's actually video 308 00:16:02,760 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 3: of it, and everyone's saying, hold on a second, Ukraine 309 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:08,640 Speaker 3: trying to fly a drone to a suffers of the 310 00:16:08,720 --> 00:16:11,320 Speaker 3: chance of that working and Ukraine having the capability to 311 00:16:11,360 --> 00:16:14,240 Speaker 3: pull that off as effectively zero. But the Russians do 312 00:16:14,320 --> 00:16:17,240 Speaker 3: have a long and established history of false flag operations 313 00:16:17,240 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 3: to justify massive military well crackdown slash acceleration. But we 314 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:27,400 Speaker 3: got a bunch of calls too, and in Kentucky wants 315 00:16:27,440 --> 00:16:31,680 Speaker 3: to weigh in on the Tucker situation and what's going on. 316 00:16:32,840 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 5: Hi there, just glad to call and say, me and 317 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,560 Speaker 5: my friends are sick and tired of Fox cutting out 318 00:16:39,640 --> 00:16:44,240 Speaker 5: Tucker Cross and we've decided to boycott it. And Tucker 319 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:49,200 Speaker 5: was the very best they had. He was always upbeat, laughing, 320 00:16:50,160 --> 00:16:55,040 Speaker 5: silly laugh and he was always telling us things and 321 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,360 Speaker 5: discussing things that we hadn't heard all day long on 322 00:16:58,480 --> 00:17:01,920 Speaker 5: every other show on Fox. That's what made him special. 323 00:17:02,080 --> 00:17:03,120 Speaker 5: He was the very. 324 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:06,399 Speaker 3: Best, and we appreciate you calling and sharing that with us. 325 00:17:06,560 --> 00:17:08,720 Speaker 3: I just say, you know, one way you can always 326 00:17:08,760 --> 00:17:14,600 Speaker 3: gauge Clay the effectiveness of a conservative personality is who 327 00:17:14,600 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 3: does the left hate the most and target the most 328 00:17:17,160 --> 00:17:21,440 Speaker 3: in politics? Donald Trump? In media for the last few 329 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:25,359 Speaker 3: years on the right, you know, Tucker was at the 330 00:17:25,480 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 3: very top of the list of who the left wing 331 00:17:28,600 --> 00:17:30,600 Speaker 3: attack brigades were going after. 332 00:17:30,920 --> 00:17:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't think there's any doubt that Tucker was aggressively attacked, 333 00:17:36,880 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 2: I would say more than anybody else in media period. 334 00:17:42,760 --> 00:17:46,680 Speaker 2: But that attack also creates a lot of a lot 335 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:50,240 Speaker 2: of loyalty from his fan base, which is why on Monday, 336 00:17:50,280 --> 00:17:52,800 Speaker 2: when this news broke, I said, I think Tucker's got 337 00:17:52,800 --> 00:17:57,399 Speaker 2: an incredible opportunity here with a lot of different different 338 00:17:57,440 --> 00:17:59,360 Speaker 2: directions he can go with his career, and I think 339 00:17:59,359 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 2: he's going to be pretty successful no matter where he 340 00:18:01,359 --> 00:18:02,280 Speaker 2: ends up going forward. 341 00:18:02,320 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 3: So we'll have to see and. 342 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,600 Speaker 2: And obviously we'll be following him wherever he goes. 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We are here in 363 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: the Nashville studio and we are joined now by Raymond 364 00:19:12,760 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 2: de Royo. Let me just mention this as we bring 365 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 2: in Raymond House Oversight Committee, says an FBI whistleblower has 366 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:26,000 Speaker 2: provided evidence that Joe Biden as Vice president was accepting 367 00:19:26,160 --> 00:19:31,879 Speaker 2: payouts from foreign nationals in exchange for policy decisions that 368 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:35,480 Speaker 2: coming down from the House Oversight Committee. In the last 369 00:19:35,560 --> 00:19:38,800 Speaker 2: fifteen minutes, we'll see where exactly it goes. But I 370 00:19:38,880 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 2: just want to let everybody that know that that's going on. Raymond, 371 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,440 Speaker 2: you are in town here in Nashville where Buck and 372 00:19:44,520 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 2: I are doing the show, and I was just flipping through. 373 00:19:47,000 --> 00:19:50,000 Speaker 2: This is really cool. You have written a kid's book 374 00:19:50,080 --> 00:19:54,280 Speaker 2: and it's called The Unexpected Light of Thomas Alva Edison, 375 00:19:54,840 --> 00:19:59,080 Speaker 2: and it's about struggles and when Edison was a young kid. 376 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:01,359 Speaker 3: It's really a cool story. 377 00:20:01,440 --> 00:20:03,600 Speaker 6: Well, it's a story I didn't know anything about. I 378 00:20:03,760 --> 00:20:06,040 Speaker 6: stumbled across a quote from medicine in one of these 379 00:20:06,040 --> 00:20:09,400 Speaker 6: big doorstop biographies we never read, and in the back 380 00:20:09,480 --> 00:20:12,600 Speaker 6: it says, my mother was the making of me. If 381 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,320 Speaker 6: not for her devotion and faith in me at a 382 00:20:15,359 --> 00:20:18,520 Speaker 6: certain time, I would never have become an inventor. Edison 383 00:20:18,600 --> 00:20:21,200 Speaker 6: said that to multiple interviewers at the end of his life, 384 00:20:21,280 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 6: and I thought, wait a minute, who is this mother 385 00:20:23,359 --> 00:20:25,199 Speaker 6: and why haven't I ever heard of her? Well, when 386 00:20:25,240 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 6: I started digging, I realized Edison, at eight years old 387 00:20:28,560 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 6: was thrown out of school. The schoolmaster said he's an 388 00:20:32,000 --> 00:20:34,960 Speaker 6: idiot and can't be taught. His father said he was 389 00:20:35,000 --> 00:20:38,119 Speaker 6: a dunce because he was a very withdrawn child, probably 390 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:41,480 Speaker 6: had ADHD. We know he was death by twelve, but 391 00:20:42,040 --> 00:20:45,480 Speaker 6: his mother had belief in him, saw the curiosity, took 392 00:20:45,520 --> 00:20:48,240 Speaker 6: him home and homeschooled him. I frankly don't know why 393 00:20:48,359 --> 00:20:52,640 Speaker 6: Edison today isn't the patron saint of homeschooling, because look 394 00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:54,639 Speaker 6: at what this guy created. That was the end of 395 00:20:54,680 --> 00:20:57,840 Speaker 6: his formal schooling with his mother, and she allowed him 396 00:20:57,880 --> 00:20:59,640 Speaker 6: to do something we should remember with our own kids. 397 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:02,600 Speaker 6: And that I I discovered through writing this book. A 398 00:21:02,720 --> 00:21:05,479 Speaker 6: child learns with their eyes and their head, yes, but 399 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:09,200 Speaker 6: most importantly with their hands and their feet. Edison learned 400 00:21:09,240 --> 00:21:12,159 Speaker 6: both ways. He absorbed the theory of electricity and the 401 00:21:12,200 --> 00:21:14,840 Speaker 6: science of the time. Then he tinkered and he played, 402 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,280 Speaker 6: and he pulled and he changed, and he played with 403 00:21:18,000 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 6: the challenges before him. And he often said giving up 404 00:21:22,160 --> 00:21:24,240 Speaker 6: is the worst weakness in American life. 405 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:25,160 Speaker 3: Giving up. 406 00:21:25,320 --> 00:21:28,360 Speaker 6: He never gave up, and that's why he was allowed 407 00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:32,760 Speaker 6: and able to create the phonograph and the microphones, were 408 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:39,199 Speaker 6: talking on the telegraph, receptors in alkaline batteries, things we 409 00:21:39,240 --> 00:21:42,439 Speaker 6: take for granted, the first motion picture camera. All of 410 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 6: this was Thomas Alva Edison. And I call this a 411 00:21:45,520 --> 00:21:48,520 Speaker 6: turnabout tail. It's the first book in this series because 412 00:21:48,560 --> 00:21:52,879 Speaker 6: we all face obstacles. We all face these huge challenges, 413 00:21:53,160 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 6: and in the case of Edison and in our lives, 414 00:21:55,440 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 6: the obstacle is not the end of your journey. It's 415 00:21:57,920 --> 00:22:00,560 Speaker 6: the portal to your future and your destiny if you 416 00:22:00,640 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 6: make the right decision in it. And he and his 417 00:22:03,080 --> 00:22:04,959 Speaker 6: mother made the right decision when he was thrown out 418 00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 6: of school at eight. The book is the Unexpected Light 419 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:10,520 Speaker 6: of Thomas Alva Edison. Raymond Arroyo, the author. He's with 420 00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,400 Speaker 6: us here now in studio. You were just mentioning off, 421 00:22:14,800 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 6: talking off Mike. 422 00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,320 Speaker 3: Off. But you were just you were mentioning before how 423 00:22:20,359 --> 00:22:22,239 Speaker 3: cool it is to go and see some of the 424 00:22:22,280 --> 00:22:26,800 Speaker 3: great Edison historic locations. I always think it's fun for it, 425 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,520 Speaker 3: so I like to nerd out with that stuff. I 426 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:32,000 Speaker 3: now I know I'm gonna have negotiations with my wife 427 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 3: going forward about because I want I'm like, let's go 428 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:35,240 Speaker 3: to Malta. She's like, why do you want to go 429 00:22:35,280 --> 00:22:36,520 Speaker 3: to Malta. I'm like, because I want to see the 430 00:22:36,520 --> 00:22:39,720 Speaker 3: siege fortifications obviously, but you know, also good food and 431 00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,200 Speaker 3: pretty stuff. But it sounds like this is a thing. 432 00:22:42,320 --> 00:22:44,359 Speaker 3: I mean, this is obviously a book you're gearing toward younger. 433 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,239 Speaker 3: Younger readers and parents can get family read family family read, right, 434 00:22:48,520 --> 00:22:52,119 Speaker 3: but but also family visits. What are some of the 435 00:22:52,640 --> 00:22:55,600 Speaker 3: great locations, because I feel like you mentioned the being 436 00:22:55,640 --> 00:22:58,280 Speaker 3: able to feel the stuff, to see and touch and 437 00:22:58,320 --> 00:23:01,119 Speaker 3: feel some of what Edison's like life was would be 438 00:23:01,160 --> 00:23:01,720 Speaker 3: really interesting. 439 00:23:01,720 --> 00:23:04,479 Speaker 6: Well, Buck, as a writer, nothing fills you more and 440 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,480 Speaker 6: puts you in the moment than going to those places. 441 00:23:06,480 --> 00:23:08,560 Speaker 6: So I went to all of them. And by the way, 442 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:11,879 Speaker 6: there's the retirement home or the summer home of Edison 443 00:23:11,920 --> 00:23:14,720 Speaker 6: that Henry Ford and he shared in Fort Myers, which 444 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:16,879 Speaker 6: is really cool, and they have a chemistry lab the 445 00:23:16,920 --> 00:23:17,760 Speaker 6: private which. 446 00:23:17,560 --> 00:23:19,919 Speaker 2: You saw kids there. Yeah, I took my kids. We 447 00:23:19,920 --> 00:23:22,879 Speaker 2: were just in Fort Myers last week. It is the 448 00:23:22,920 --> 00:23:27,639 Speaker 2: winter home of Edison. The vegetation, you know, incredible, you know, 449 00:23:27,680 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 2: these trees from all over the world and the labs 450 00:23:30,880 --> 00:23:33,320 Speaker 2: are there. It's a really cool thing. If you're down 451 00:23:33,320 --> 00:23:35,920 Speaker 2: in the South Florida area and you're looking for something 452 00:23:35,960 --> 00:23:38,960 Speaker 2: a little bit educational that your kids would also enjoy. 453 00:23:39,040 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 6: It's pretty fantastic. And the West Orange Facility, the Edison 454 00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:45,760 Speaker 6: Labs there, this is the lab he built and that's 455 00:23:45,800 --> 00:23:48,840 Speaker 6: where light bulbs were produced to refine the phonograph. There 456 00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:52,800 Speaker 6: he recorded hundreds of artists on the second floor for 457 00:23:52,880 --> 00:23:55,000 Speaker 6: his own record label. By the way, we're here in 458 00:23:55,080 --> 00:23:59,320 Speaker 6: Music City. The guy who created music, recorded music is Edison. 459 00:23:59,600 --> 00:24:02,480 Speaker 6: He had his first record label. Hundreds of artists and 460 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,840 Speaker 6: orchestras went up there. Here's the cool thing. You can't 461 00:24:05,880 --> 00:24:08,280 Speaker 6: see it. It's not on display, but I've seen it 462 00:24:08,480 --> 00:24:11,359 Speaker 6: at other places. He attached a piece of wood to 463 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,960 Speaker 6: the bottom of the phonograph and he would bite down 464 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,320 Speaker 6: on that piece of wood because he was deaf. That's 465 00:24:16,320 --> 00:24:18,960 Speaker 6: how he heard the music that was recorded. You can 466 00:24:19,000 --> 00:24:21,280 Speaker 6: see though that music room with the big horn that 467 00:24:21,320 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 6: he listened to music on there. It is untouched since 468 00:24:25,040 --> 00:24:27,480 Speaker 6: nineteen thirty one when he died. So to walk through 469 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:32,120 Speaker 6: that is really to touch American innovation. American know how 470 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,280 Speaker 6: American stick toitiveness. And that's what the story of the 471 00:24:36,359 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 6: unexpected light of Thomas Alva Edison touches for me. But 472 00:24:39,800 --> 00:24:42,200 Speaker 6: when I talk to kids, so many kids with ADHD 473 00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,000 Speaker 6: or learning difficulties, they said, well, I can't do this, 474 00:24:45,119 --> 00:24:48,000 Speaker 6: or I don't learn the way my friends do. Neither 475 00:24:48,000 --> 00:24:51,320 Speaker 6: did Edison, and he was the greatest innovator of the time. 476 00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:54,000 Speaker 6: And that's all I want kids to take away. If 477 00:24:54,000 --> 00:24:57,119 Speaker 6: they just take that, and if parents realize you have 478 00:24:57,200 --> 00:25:01,040 Speaker 6: a huge responsibility to nurture the life within that child. 479 00:25:01,400 --> 00:25:04,879 Speaker 6: That's what Nancy Edison did. And we're still basking in 480 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,120 Speaker 6: the globe what Edison gave us, in fact right now 481 00:25:07,600 --> 00:25:12,399 Speaker 6: literally basking and communicating via the microphone he created. 482 00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:14,280 Speaker 3: Now I have to ask, I know this isn't I 483 00:25:14,320 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 3: would I would assume in the scope of the book, 484 00:25:16,800 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 3: But how do you break down because you've done all 485 00:25:18,480 --> 00:25:20,720 Speaker 3: this research into Edison. And by the way, I'm not 486 00:25:20,760 --> 00:25:23,040 Speaker 3: going to bring up Tesla, are you buck? You know 487 00:25:23,119 --> 00:25:26,720 Speaker 3: I'm going to Tesla and everybody else bring up Tesla 488 00:25:26,840 --> 00:25:30,879 Speaker 3: versus Team Edison, A C, D C. You know the 489 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:33,960 Speaker 3: experiments and all this stuff. You seem very I don't know, man, 490 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:36,920 Speaker 3: this is like Alabama Auburn box point. 491 00:25:36,960 --> 00:25:39,520 Speaker 2: When I tweeted that I was at the Fort Fort 492 00:25:39,560 --> 00:25:41,480 Speaker 2: Myers Edison place, and I think I put up a 493 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:42,000 Speaker 2: picture of. 494 00:25:41,960 --> 00:25:47,720 Speaker 6: All the test I'm going to set. Let me set 495 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,879 Speaker 6: the records. Yes, first of all, I'm dealing with young 496 00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:55,479 Speaker 6: Thomas book. Tesla wasn't even born when this happened. Okay, 497 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 6: but this is an important lesson here that young people 498 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 6: and families can gather. How whoever, let me settle. Now, 499 00:26:01,840 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 6: some of you Tesla people are going to get upset 500 00:26:03,760 --> 00:26:06,280 Speaker 6: with me. But look, Musco already gave Tesla his due. 501 00:26:06,320 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 3: Okay. 502 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:11,320 Speaker 6: Yes, Tesla was hired by Thomas Alva Edison, who we 503 00:26:11,359 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 6: should say, long before Tesla. 504 00:26:13,640 --> 00:26:15,120 Speaker 3: Came around or anybody even knew who. 505 00:26:15,040 --> 00:26:19,400 Speaker 6: The hell Tesla was. Thomas Alva Edison was an international name. 506 00:26:19,800 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 6: He had an office. He was so big. He had 507 00:26:22,040 --> 00:26:25,359 Speaker 6: an office in Paris that was developing an electrical grid 508 00:26:25,480 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 6: and he hired an engineer by the name of Tesla 509 00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:32,600 Speaker 6: to come work for him. He paid Tesla to refine 510 00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 6: the dynamo, which he did, and Tesla said, he didn't 511 00:26:36,760 --> 00:26:38,520 Speaker 6: pay me as much as I was entitled to it. Well, 512 00:26:38,560 --> 00:26:40,760 Speaker 6: I might think my employer's not paying me enough either. 513 00:26:40,880 --> 00:26:43,600 Speaker 6: Joined the club. Yeah, but you're an employee. You're putting 514 00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 6: your work in and so Tesla went off in a huff. 515 00:26:46,760 --> 00:26:51,160 Speaker 6: He banded together with Westinghouse, George Westinghouse, and together they 516 00:26:51,280 --> 00:26:55,520 Speaker 6: challenged Thomas Edison's direct current as opposed to alternating current. 517 00:26:55,720 --> 00:26:58,120 Speaker 3: Well, he won, Tesla won the war. 518 00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,920 Speaker 6: The current war was won by tes But George Westinghouse 519 00:27:02,560 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 6: put the screws to Tesla, So go throw nasty comments 520 00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:10,240 Speaker 6: at Westinghouse. Edison was a guy who hired Tesla, and yes, 521 00:27:11,160 --> 00:27:14,080 Speaker 6: Edison at times could pirate technology and refine it and 522 00:27:14,119 --> 00:27:18,320 Speaker 6: then patented himself. There's no talking that away, But I'm 523 00:27:18,359 --> 00:27:22,480 Speaker 6: sorry Tesla did not give Edison every invention that he 524 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:22,880 Speaker 6: has known. 525 00:27:23,400 --> 00:27:24,919 Speaker 3: This kind of mirrors for me a little bit, some 526 00:27:24,960 --> 00:27:26,720 Speaker 3: of our callers with the trump to say this thing 527 00:27:26,840 --> 00:27:32,160 Speaker 3: of like Edison, Tesla feels like that a little bit. 528 00:27:32,200 --> 00:27:35,000 Speaker 6: Well, people like these teams, you know, whether it's twilight 529 00:27:35,240 --> 00:27:38,399 Speaker 6: or a football game. They somehow everybody's got to choose 530 00:27:38,400 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 6: the team. Take the good from both of the men. 531 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:45,280 Speaker 6: They were both incredible inventors, but Edison. The lasting nature 532 00:27:45,320 --> 00:27:48,359 Speaker 6: of what Edison created is really unmatched. 533 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:49,120 Speaker 3: So incredible. 534 00:27:49,200 --> 00:27:51,960 Speaker 2: Sounds like a fantastic book. I think you're doing signings right, 535 00:27:52,080 --> 00:27:53,159 Speaker 2: I am I'm doing signings. 536 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:56,040 Speaker 6: In fact, I'm at the Barnes and Noble Cool Springs 537 00:27:56,080 --> 00:28:01,080 Speaker 6: on Saturday morning in Nashville and Brentwood, or you at 538 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:02,360 Speaker 6: eleven am on Saturday. 539 00:28:02,359 --> 00:28:03,520 Speaker 3: I hope people will come out. 540 00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:06,480 Speaker 6: I'll be signing and talking and please, We're only going 541 00:28:06,520 --> 00:28:09,960 Speaker 6: to have a very limited Tesla mud wrestling match. 542 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 3: Tesla stands are very small with their Tesla T shirts 543 00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:15,679 Speaker 3: and their electric vehicles. 544 00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 2: And you know eleven am Central here in Brentwood, if 545 00:28:19,560 --> 00:28:22,240 Speaker 2: you on Saturday, if you're in this area. 546 00:28:22,080 --> 00:28:23,200 Speaker 3: Cool Springs BNN. 547 00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 6: And by the way, you know who created the first 548 00:28:24,880 --> 00:28:26,240 Speaker 6: electric car ever devised? 549 00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 3: I would assume it would our be our buddy. 550 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,359 Speaker 6: Edison, Thomas Edison. He was friends with with Henry Ford. 551 00:28:31,520 --> 00:28:33,320 Speaker 6: He said, I can do an electric version of this. 552 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:36,280 Speaker 6: He did it. Henry Ford said it's too much to 553 00:28:36,359 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 6: replicate these batteries. No, we're not going to do it, 554 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,959 Speaker 6: and canned kill the electric car. That's how far reaching 555 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,320 Speaker 6: this guy was. And he was a tinkerer. He wasn't 556 00:28:45,400 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 6: even a learned guy. He was a workman, a craftsman, 557 00:28:49,000 --> 00:28:51,560 Speaker 6: and and and deliberate about creation. 558 00:28:51,680 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 3: It's like the Leonardo da Vinci of West Orange New Jersey. 559 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:56,400 Speaker 6: You got it the Wizard of Menlo. 560 00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 3: Park, alright, you know. 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We we had 604 00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:05,520 Speaker 3: a few things that we touched on today that I'm 605 00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:10,280 Speaker 3: sure we're going to return to tomorrow, and I think 606 00:31:10,280 --> 00:31:17,320 Speaker 3: it's interesting. You know, the the bank and economic situation 607 00:31:17,520 --> 00:31:19,720 Speaker 3: right now is something we're going to focus in on 608 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:23,320 Speaker 3: a little bit more because it is getting rough out there. 609 00:31:23,440 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 3: Clay mentioned that the FED has raised interest rates again today. 610 00:31:28,800 --> 00:31:35,120 Speaker 3: Here is the former FDIC chair Sheila Bayer, who was saying, look, 611 00:31:35,160 --> 00:31:39,360 Speaker 3: they can't keep doing this, and so given that reality, 612 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,440 Speaker 3: it feels like they better hope inflation starts coming down 613 00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:45,120 Speaker 3: a whole lot more or else what do we do next? 614 00:31:45,160 --> 00:31:46,400 Speaker 3: Play fifteen here. 615 00:31:46,400 --> 00:31:48,360 Speaker 7: I do think they're going too fast. I'm a hawk 616 00:31:48,440 --> 00:31:51,120 Speaker 7: on inflation. They can only go so fast. You know, 617 00:31:51,200 --> 00:31:55,959 Speaker 7: it's fourteen years mostly near zero interest rates, significant inflation. 618 00:31:56,080 --> 00:31:59,040 Speaker 7: You can't reverse it overnight, and it's better to hold 619 00:31:59,040 --> 00:32:02,600 Speaker 7: a steady course pause assessed and keeping ratcheting up and 620 00:32:02,640 --> 00:32:04,880 Speaker 7: these interstrating increases. Yeah, you're right. I think I have 621 00:32:04,960 --> 00:32:07,360 Speaker 7: no doubt but that I'm raised by twenty five Bays's points. 622 00:32:07,640 --> 00:32:09,800 Speaker 7: But at least maybe they can signal that now they 623 00:32:09,840 --> 00:32:12,600 Speaker 7: will be hitting pause. I hope they do, because the 624 00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,400 Speaker 7: pace that they're doing this is unsustainable, and I fear 625 00:32:15,560 --> 00:32:17,280 Speaker 7: later on they're going to have to start lowering rates, 626 00:32:17,320 --> 00:32:19,400 Speaker 7: which is not going to be a good thing either. 627 00:32:20,040 --> 00:32:23,040 Speaker 3: So you know, raising them is a problem lowering. You know, 628 00:32:23,280 --> 00:32:26,120 Speaker 3: the real problem Clays we've discussed is spending too much money. 629 00:32:26,600 --> 00:32:29,320 Speaker 3: That's really the root of all of this, of the 630 00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,720 Speaker 3: bad decision making is the federal government deciding to spend 631 00:32:33,040 --> 00:32:35,440 Speaker 3: more money than it should on things. In some cases 632 00:32:35,480 --> 00:32:38,520 Speaker 3: it shouldn't be spending any money on. But also overall 633 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 3: this has effects on the banking system. We played south 634 00:32:41,680 --> 00:32:45,560 Speaker 3: Park earlier the week with the macho man Randy Savage 635 00:32:45,600 --> 00:32:46,800 Speaker 3: and the whole issue of women. 636 00:32:46,960 --> 00:32:50,960 Speaker 2: One of the great south Park and uh, I'm not 637 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,080 Speaker 2: here to talk about my transition anyway. 638 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:56,960 Speaker 3: One of the one of the great Southwark romans. Here's 639 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 3: another south Park throwback. This is from two thousand and 640 00:33:00,520 --> 00:33:04,440 Speaker 3: nine when Stan goes into a bank and deposits money 641 00:33:05,120 --> 00:33:08,000 Speaker 3: and realizes, wait a second, you mean the money is 642 00:33:08,080 --> 00:33:10,960 Speaker 3: not actually there? After I deposit at play eleven. How 643 00:33:11,000 --> 00:33:13,280 Speaker 3: can I help you, young man? I got one hundred 644 00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,280 Speaker 3: dollars check from my grandma, and my dad said, I 645 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:16,520 Speaker 3: need to put in the bank so it can grow 646 00:33:16,600 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 3: over the years. 647 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:20,800 Speaker 6: Well that's fantastic, a really smart decision, young man. 648 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 3: We can put that check in a money market mutual fund. 649 00:33:24,080 --> 00:33:27,080 Speaker 2: Then we'll reinvest the earnings into foreign currency accounts with 650 00:33:27,200 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 2: compounding interest. 651 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:32,480 Speaker 3: And it's gone. Oh what it's gone. It's all gone. 652 00:33:32,840 --> 00:33:35,080 Speaker 3: What's all gone? The money in your account? It didn't 653 00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 3: do too well? It's god, what do you mean, I 654 00:33:37,280 --> 00:33:41,280 Speaker 3: have one hundred dollars not anymore? You don't poof? I 655 00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,480 Speaker 3: mean that's you know, when you're looking at people that 656 00:33:43,560 --> 00:33:46,800 Speaker 3: are concerned about what happens if you have bank failures, 657 00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:50,240 Speaker 3: play well, it's either poof, it's gone, or the federal 658 00:33:50,280 --> 00:33:52,520 Speaker 3: government says, well, we're just going to put money back 659 00:33:52,600 --> 00:33:55,360 Speaker 3: into those accounts. You start to realize money is a 660 00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:59,800 Speaker 3: perception in many ways. Money is computers and numbers on screen. 661 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:05,400 Speaker 2: Ninety percent of money United States dollars doesn't physically exist. 662 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 2: That blows some people's minds, But to your point on 663 00:34:09,640 --> 00:34:13,800 Speaker 2: it's moving across computer screens. Only ten percent of the 664 00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,680 Speaker 2: dollars that exist in the world are physically incarnate. In 665 00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,080 Speaker 2: the dollars which is which is wild to think about it, 666 00:34:21,120 --> 00:34:23,479 Speaker 2: and I just I'm going to keep hammering this because 667 00:34:23,480 --> 00:34:25,600 Speaker 2: I'm not hearing a lot of people talk about it. 668 00:34:26,520 --> 00:34:31,360 Speaker 2: The commercial real estate market is in trouble, and so 669 00:34:31,480 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 2: many people out there right now. I hope that this 670 00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,400 Speaker 2: is the end of the FEDS raise. I'm not certain 671 00:34:37,480 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: that it is, because really this is all determined on 672 00:34:40,800 --> 00:34:43,640 Speaker 2: whether inflation is going to come back down. But it's 673 00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:46,200 Speaker 2: not only that we've gotten now up to roughly five 674 00:34:46,280 --> 00:34:49,640 Speaker 2: and a quarter point raise, the forty year high. 675 00:34:49,640 --> 00:34:52,000 Speaker 3: For the rapidity with which we have raised. 676 00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,319 Speaker 2: So many of you out there listening to us right 677 00:34:55,400 --> 00:35:00,480 Speaker 2: now have mortgages which are way below what the mortgage 678 00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:04,000 Speaker 2: rate would be now. And you're saying, hey, maybe you 679 00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,040 Speaker 2: got a new kid, maybe you'd like to move into 680 00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:10,680 Speaker 2: a different school district, maybe you want to move closer 681 00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:13,839 Speaker 2: to where you're working. But a lot of you right 682 00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:17,000 Speaker 2: now are saying, hey, I'm at three and a half percent, 683 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,040 Speaker 2: why would I move and take on a six and 684 00:35:20,080 --> 00:35:21,400 Speaker 2: a half percent mortgage. 685 00:35:22,239 --> 00:35:24,719 Speaker 3: I think the degree to which so many people are 686 00:35:24,840 --> 00:35:26,200 Speaker 3: locked in is an issue. 687 00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 2: And then on the financing level, I can just tell 688 00:35:29,320 --> 00:35:31,160 Speaker 2: you a lot of this commercial real estate when they 689 00:35:31,239 --> 00:35:33,839 Speaker 2: papered it two years ago, it was based on there 690 00:35:33,920 --> 00:35:37,040 Speaker 2: being access to two and three percent interest rates, and 691 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:39,920 Speaker 2: now you're talking about six and seven percent, and a 692 00:35:40,000 --> 00:35:43,359 Speaker 2: lot of those deals don't work on the paper when 693 00:35:43,400 --> 00:35:45,719 Speaker 2: you get to six or seven. So I think there's 694 00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 2: still a lot of pain coming Buck, and I'll be 695 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,360 Speaker 2: very surprised. Frankly, we were talking earlier about Joe Biden 696 00:35:51,440 --> 00:35:54,040 Speaker 2: and the dangers of his reelection and the challenges there. 697 00:35:54,760 --> 00:35:57,200 Speaker 2: I'll be very surprised if we're not officially in a 698 00:35:57,280 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 2: recession at some point in the next year, even them 699 00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,800 Speaker 2: having to acknowledge that we're in a recession. 700 00:36:03,640 --> 00:36:06,760 Speaker 3: And we all know what they'll do. They'll blame Donald 701 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:11,760 Speaker 3: Trump for somehow, of course, and so Trump can't solve 702 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,120 Speaker 3: it by being president, because Trump caused the recession in 703 00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:18,960 Speaker 3: the third year of the Biden presidency somehow. I know, 704 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,600 Speaker 3: the shamelessness when you hear it in advance sounds impossible. 705 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,680 Speaker 3: But we are dealing with Democrats, after all, So is 706 00:36:25,680 --> 00:36:27,920 Speaker 3: there really such a thing as shame? Team Thanks for 707 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:30,839 Speaker 3: rolling with us today. Really appreciates you giving us your time. 708 00:36:30,960 --> 00:36:33,759 Speaker 3: As always, Clay and I. If you see a couple 709 00:36:33,800 --> 00:36:37,920 Speaker 3: of guys with guitars out on Broadway here in Nashville, 710 00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 3: passing the hat, singing some tunes. Well it's not us, 711 00:36:41,800 --> 00:36:44,680 Speaker 3: but we may be there. We may be there saying 712 00:36:44,719 --> 00:36:46,960 Speaker 3: hi to everybody, So come over and say what's up 713 00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:50,320 Speaker 3: and thanks for hanging with us as always. And tomorrow 714 00:36:50,360 --> 00:36:53,040 Speaker 3: we got Kaylee mcaninny on Friend of Ours. That's gonna 715 00:36:53,040 --> 00:36:55,759 Speaker 3: be great. Just got a new book out and it'll 716 00:36:55,800 --> 00:36:58,160 Speaker 3: be a very strong show. Clay that much I can predict, 717 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,320 Speaker 3: no doubt. Release the Manifests Stove put the pressure on