1 00:00:00,120 --> 00:00:03,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck 2 00:00:03,360 --> 00:00:09,239 Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome in Friday edition, Clay Travis buck 3 00:00:09,320 --> 00:00:14,200 Speaker 1: Sexton Show. It is a fabulous Friday. I know many 4 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:16,520 Speaker 1: of you. Maybe you're cutting out of work a little 5 00:00:16,520 --> 00:00:19,160 Speaker 1: bit early today. Maybe you're out at lunch right now 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:23,400 Speaker 1: on the East Coast and you're throwing up the deuces 7 00:00:23,480 --> 00:00:27,920 Speaker 1: and headed off into what should be an awesome July 8 00:00:28,120 --> 00:00:32,319 Speaker 1: fourth weekend, and there is much to celebrate as we 9 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:35,600 Speaker 1: begin today's show with you. We're going to be joined 10 00:00:35,680 --> 00:00:38,440 Speaker 1: halfway through by Shannon Breem, who is the Fox News 11 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:40,640 Speaker 1: You're a host of Fox News Sunday, but also has 12 00:00:40,640 --> 00:00:42,839 Speaker 1: been covering the Supreme Court for Fox News for a 13 00:00:42,960 --> 00:00:47,879 Speaker 1: long time. Now we'll have her breakdown these rulings in 14 00:00:47,960 --> 00:00:51,120 Speaker 1: more detail, but let's go ahead and dive right in. 15 00:00:51,280 --> 00:00:56,040 Speaker 1: Buck off the top here double Supreme Court six three 16 00:00:56,160 --> 00:00:59,200 Speaker 1: decisions coming on the heels of yesterday's six ' three 17 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: decision to indefirmative action in college and university admissions. Simplifying 18 00:01:05,360 --> 00:01:12,200 Speaker 1: what happened today the Biden attempt to cancel, and by 19 00:01:12,280 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: cancel we mean just take on as more of our 20 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:20,120 Speaker 1: federal debt four hundred billion some odd dollars in student 21 00:01:20,240 --> 00:01:24,600 Speaker 1: loan debt was struck down as unconstitutional by the Supreme 22 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:28,480 Speaker 1: Court six ' three margin. Also, in what feels to 23 00:01:28,520 --> 00:01:34,120 Speaker 1: me like an eminently reasonable yet also very significant ruling, 24 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 1: we've had this question over what can be compelled? What 25 00:01:39,360 --> 00:01:43,160 Speaker 1: can a business person be compelled to do? When it 26 00:01:43,200 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: comes to unique talent. A website designer in Colorado who 27 00:01:49,000 --> 00:01:52,560 Speaker 1: refused to do websites for gay weddings. You can correct 28 00:01:52,560 --> 00:01:54,200 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on this, Buck, in terms of 29 00:01:54,200 --> 00:01:59,160 Speaker 1: the factual details here, cannot be compelled to create those 30 00:01:59,280 --> 00:02:04,760 Speaker 1: websites or gay couples. Six ' three decision, preserving both 31 00:02:04,800 --> 00:02:09,720 Speaker 1: First Amendment rights and also freedom of just basic humanity. 32 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: When you are a talented individual, you cannot be compelled 33 00:02:14,760 --> 00:02:16,640 Speaker 1: to use your talents in a way that you do 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:19,560 Speaker 1: not see fit. Seems eminently reasonable. Just kind of break 35 00:02:19,560 --> 00:02:24,360 Speaker 1: it down. If you you can't discriminate against somebody if 36 00:02:24,360 --> 00:02:27,960 Speaker 1: you're selling everything to the general public, but you cannot 37 00:02:28,000 --> 00:02:31,520 Speaker 1: be compelled to make a specific product for a specific 38 00:02:31,600 --> 00:02:36,320 Speaker 1: person based on what their sexuality might be. So Buck, 39 00:02:37,160 --> 00:02:40,320 Speaker 1: this is a victory lap for Donald Trump. You can 40 00:02:40,360 --> 00:02:43,320 Speaker 1: well imagine what these rulings would have looked like if 41 00:02:43,400 --> 00:02:48,080 Speaker 1: Hillary Clinton had won in twenty sixteen. The most significant 42 00:02:48,280 --> 00:02:52,640 Speaker 1: impact I believe of Donald Trump's presidency the three Supreme 43 00:02:52,680 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 1: Court justices that he got on this court that are 44 00:02:55,320 --> 00:02:58,119 Speaker 1: helping to preserve liberty, insanity in America. 45 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 2: Look, it's a great week for freedom. It's it's a 46 00:03:00,200 --> 00:03:03,519 Speaker 2: great week for America. What can I tell you? The 47 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:11,959 Speaker 2: efforts at totalitarianism, Marxism racial Marxism have failed, at least 48 00:03:12,040 --> 00:03:14,960 Speaker 2: with regard to the major challenges making their way all 49 00:03:15,000 --> 00:03:18,560 Speaker 2: the way up to the Supreme Court. Three pretty substantial wins. 50 00:03:18,600 --> 00:03:19,520 Speaker 2: I mean, I think when you. 51 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 3: When you rack them up, the affirmative. 52 00:03:24,080 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: Action decision is just the beginning, as we said yesterday, 53 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,919 Speaker 2: of further challenges. Everyone's pointing to the fact that Harvard 54 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:35,720 Speaker 2: has looked at what they're calling the loophole of oh, 55 00:03:35,800 --> 00:03:40,600 Speaker 2: you have to write about your experience overcoming racial discrimination. 56 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 2: And other people were writing in yesterday listeners and saying, well, 57 00:03:44,080 --> 00:03:47,640 Speaker 2: what about gender identity stuff? And this is not going 58 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:51,320 Speaker 2: away overnight, But you know what's going to happen if 59 00:03:51,360 --> 00:03:55,920 Speaker 2: Harvard has eleven percent this group and fifteen percent that 60 00:03:56,040 --> 00:03:58,840 Speaker 2: group and so on, years and years in a row 61 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:02,200 Speaker 2: and someone sues again, they're going to be able to 62 00:04:02,240 --> 00:04:07,480 Speaker 2: make a case that this discrimination has effectively continued when 63 00:04:07,480 --> 00:04:09,280 Speaker 2: they get access to the numbers. Now, Harvard and other 64 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 2: schools may try to make that harder by making the 65 00:04:12,480 --> 00:04:16,800 Speaker 2: numbers that you apply with, notably the SAT optional, but 66 00:04:17,080 --> 00:04:20,560 Speaker 2: the point is it's unconstitutional. The left has been wrong 67 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:23,479 Speaker 2: on this, and now we move forward. Okay, on the 68 00:04:23,520 --> 00:04:27,039 Speaker 2: cake situation, you know, the the bake, that cake. 69 00:04:26,920 --> 00:04:28,880 Speaker 3: Is what people always refer to this stuff, as. 70 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:30,680 Speaker 1: You know. 71 00:04:30,920 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 2: I think this one shows you just how extreme actually 72 00:04:34,760 --> 00:04:38,600 Speaker 2: this is three zero three creative is the case, how 73 00:04:38,640 --> 00:04:42,440 Speaker 2: extreme the left has gotten where they in the state 74 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: of Colorado want to make you have to right things 75 00:04:47,279 --> 00:04:50,200 Speaker 2: that you don't want to write on a cake. They 76 00:04:50,240 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: want to make you create things and engage in creative 77 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 2: enterprises for. 78 00:04:55,120 --> 00:04:56,600 Speaker 3: Things that you do not agree with. 79 00:04:56,839 --> 00:04:59,520 Speaker 2: And anyone who doesn't really understand what the game is here, 80 00:04:59,800 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 2: go and see what they've done to Masterpiece Cake Shop 81 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 2: where the guy I think his name is I think 82 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:07,640 Speaker 2: his name is Jack Smith. I could be wrong on 83 00:05:07,680 --> 00:05:11,560 Speaker 2: that one, but the owner of Masterpiece cake Shop team 84 00:05:11,760 --> 00:05:13,560 Speaker 2: check his name for me, so I get that one right. 85 00:05:14,720 --> 00:05:16,720 Speaker 2: And now I think I'm the special Counsel's Jack Smith. 86 00:05:16,720 --> 00:05:18,000 Speaker 2: I'm trying to remember this guy's name. 87 00:05:18,279 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 1: But anyway, he's had activists show up to make him 88 00:05:22,440 --> 00:05:25,560 Speaker 1: make Satan cakes and Penis cakes. 89 00:05:25,200 --> 00:05:26,200 Speaker 3: And all of this stuff. 90 00:05:26,680 --> 00:05:26,760 Speaker 4: Right. 91 00:05:26,839 --> 00:05:29,280 Speaker 2: Yeah, the point is to make everyone bend the knee. 92 00:05:29,440 --> 00:05:31,839 Speaker 2: The point is that the activists of the LGBTQ I 93 00:05:31,880 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 2: A plus plus plus community show up and say, oh, 94 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,440 Speaker 2: you think you were a believing traditionalist Christian, You're now 95 00:05:39,480 --> 00:05:41,600 Speaker 2: gonna play it Jack Phillips, Sorry, I knew it was 96 00:05:41,680 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 2: Jack something. 97 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:42,880 Speaker 3: Jack Phillips. 98 00:05:43,240 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 2: I knew you're gonna rather, you're gonna play at rway 99 00:05:46,839 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 2: or else. And the Supreme Court has at least carved 100 00:05:49,320 --> 00:05:50,640 Speaker 2: out a little bit. 101 00:05:50,480 --> 00:05:51,320 Speaker 3: Of religious freedom. 102 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:53,200 Speaker 2: This is not a lot, but it has said that 103 00:05:53,200 --> 00:05:55,320 Speaker 2: religious freedom is not entirely dead. The funniest one is 104 00:05:55,360 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 2: that Joe Biden won Clay. 105 00:05:57,080 --> 00:05:58,359 Speaker 3: Everybody knew this was illegal. 106 00:05:59,000 --> 00:06:02,440 Speaker 1: Everybody knew Joe Biden, including Nancy Pelosi. Yeah, I mean 107 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 1: this is one of those Obama did this too. 108 00:06:04,760 --> 00:06:09,920 Speaker 2: If you remember where they would say under the Obama administration, uh, 109 00:06:10,120 --> 00:06:11,560 Speaker 2: you know, I don't have the authority to do that, 110 00:06:11,600 --> 00:06:14,719 Speaker 2: and then they do it. And this has happened again 111 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,080 Speaker 2: with Joe Biden, where it's clear to everyone he can't 112 00:06:18,120 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: just wave his old Joe Biden hand and make these 113 00:06:21,600 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 2: debts go away. He's socializing them to the taxpayer, and 114 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:27,640 Speaker 2: he doesn't have the authority to do it. So it's 115 00:06:27,680 --> 00:06:30,160 Speaker 2: amazing to see the left wing response to all this 116 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:34,880 Speaker 2: too truly delusional stuff. And also the descents. I mean, 117 00:06:34,960 --> 00:06:38,440 Speaker 2: I'm just going to say, the descents from Jackson and 118 00:06:38,480 --> 00:06:39,960 Speaker 2: so of my oor in the affirmative action. 119 00:06:39,880 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 3: Case, we're embarrassing. It's not just I disagree with. 120 00:06:42,480 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 2: Them, I mean they're they're logic, the emotion, all of it, 121 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:48,599 Speaker 2: the lack of logic, it was embarrassing. And the legal 122 00:06:48,640 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 2: commentators who are trying to make the case for the 123 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 2: affirm for a loan forgiveness also embarrassing themselves. 124 00:06:55,640 --> 00:07:00,000 Speaker 1: Yeah, and and I do think this is a cardinal 125 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:05,280 Speaker 1: moment to step back and think about what Donald Trump accomplished. 126 00:07:06,200 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: He did exactly what he said he was going to 127 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 1: do on the Supreme Court. I don't think there's a 128 00:07:12,040 --> 00:07:15,880 Speaker 1: single person listening who could say that Trump was anything 129 00:07:16,000 --> 00:07:21,080 Speaker 1: other than a grand slam in a sports analogy. When 130 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:23,920 Speaker 1: it came to the way that he put three justices 131 00:07:23,960 --> 00:07:26,640 Speaker 1: on the court, and I know that they worked with 132 00:07:26,800 --> 00:07:31,400 Speaker 1: him to ensure that he had a list of reliable justices. 133 00:07:31,800 --> 00:07:35,520 Speaker 1: But when you look at Kavanagh, Gorsuch, and Amy Cony Barrett, 134 00:07:36,120 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: to me, they are preserving liberty in a really significant way. Buck, 135 00:07:41,560 --> 00:07:44,320 Speaker 1: Because just think I was going through thinking about this. 136 00:07:44,720 --> 00:07:48,120 Speaker 1: If Hillary Clinton had won in twenty sixteen, the Supreme 137 00:07:48,160 --> 00:07:51,760 Speaker 1: Court of the United States would have said that every 138 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:55,040 Speaker 1: working American basically could be compelled to get the COVID 139 00:07:55,080 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: shot as a condition of employment. They would have said that, 140 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,240 Speaker 1: They would have said, affirmative action is still the law 141 00:08:00,280 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 1: on the land. They would have compelled this website designer 142 00:08:04,280 --> 00:08:09,400 Speaker 1: to make websites for any person that wanted to take 143 00:08:09,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: her on as a as a website designer. They would 144 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,600 Speaker 1: have fundamental not to mention, Roe v. Wade wouldn't be 145 00:08:17,640 --> 00:08:22,920 Speaker 1: back at the States the amount of fundamental protection and 146 00:08:23,040 --> 00:08:27,720 Speaker 1: sanity that has been restored just based on that those 147 00:08:27,800 --> 00:08:31,360 Speaker 1: three justices. Buck, think about how crazy the world we 148 00:08:31,400 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 1: would be living in would be right now. If Hillary 149 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:36,920 Speaker 1: Clinton had won in twenty sixteen and she had made 150 00:08:36,960 --> 00:08:38,160 Speaker 1: all three of these appointments. 151 00:08:38,280 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: Well, I think it's also worth noting that right now 152 00:08:42,800 --> 00:08:45,160 Speaker 2: and the state of Michigan, I feel badly. We have 153 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:48,280 Speaker 2: a lot of listeners in Michigan and that Gretchen Whitmer 154 00:08:48,320 --> 00:08:51,960 Speaker 2: is their governor. I think that she's this. I think 155 00:08:52,000 --> 00:08:54,040 Speaker 2: you could say she's the second worst governor in America. 156 00:08:54,080 --> 00:08:56,000 Speaker 2: I actually think Kathy Hokeel may be the worst at 157 00:08:56,000 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: this point. Gavin Newsom, you like him too much? So, oh, 158 00:08:59,040 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: we got to talk about RFK. By the way, we 159 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 2: got an RFK junior problem, my friend, we got to 160 00:09:04,240 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 2: talk about this. 161 00:09:04,800 --> 00:09:06,680 Speaker 1: Knew this was gonna happen by I knew it. Don't 162 00:09:06,760 --> 00:09:10,520 Speaker 1: underrate Pritzker on that's true as well. 163 00:09:10,920 --> 00:09:14,640 Speaker 2: But back to Michigan just for a second. The Michigan 164 00:09:14,640 --> 00:09:18,920 Speaker 2: House has passed a bill making wrong pronouns a felony 165 00:09:19,400 --> 00:09:23,360 Speaker 2: findable up to ten thousand dollars if you intimidate somebody 166 00:09:23,400 --> 00:09:26,400 Speaker 2: by using quote wrong pronouns. I just want to ever 167 00:09:26,559 --> 00:09:29,320 Speaker 2: understand what this is. The Michigan House has passed a 168 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:31,840 Speaker 2: bill that if you walk up to a three hundred 169 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:36,320 Speaker 2: pound dude who has long hair and address on and 170 00:09:36,360 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 2: you say hey man or excuse me, sir, and you 171 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:43,840 Speaker 2: refuse to call her call him, he a she You 172 00:09:43,960 --> 00:09:47,520 Speaker 2: can be fined up to ten thousand dollars and can 173 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,240 Speaker 2: even result in prison time. This is the death of 174 00:09:50,280 --> 00:09:52,560 Speaker 2: the First Amendment, which is the death of freedom altogether 175 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:53,200 Speaker 2: in this country. 176 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:55,079 Speaker 3: If this becomes thanks. 177 00:09:54,840 --> 00:09:57,040 Speaker 1: To the court that we have, it'll take a while 178 00:09:57,120 --> 00:09:59,880 Speaker 1: to get their bucket. It has to be used again 179 00:10:00,120 --> 00:10:02,640 Speaker 1: somebody first before it becomes actionable. 180 00:10:03,080 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: I bring it up not because I think they have 181 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:08,880 Speaker 2: some brilliant legal strategy here that's going to manage to win. 182 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: But I will tell you, do you think that Soda, 183 00:10:11,280 --> 00:10:15,520 Speaker 1: my Ore and Jackson? Do you think that they would 184 00:10:15,520 --> 00:10:16,079 Speaker 1: overturn this? 185 00:10:16,200 --> 00:10:18,160 Speaker 3: I do not. I think they would come up with 186 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 3: some Oh. 187 00:10:18,640 --> 00:10:21,000 Speaker 1: But if you use the wrong pronouns for somebody, you're 188 00:10:21,240 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: erasing them as a person, and so it's basically, you know, genocide. 189 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:28,680 Speaker 2: They would come up with some version of the First 190 00:10:28,679 --> 00:10:32,079 Speaker 2: Amendment doesn't count if it defends the transgender community. And 191 00:10:32,480 --> 00:10:35,600 Speaker 2: people need to know about this because this is now 192 00:10:35,760 --> 00:10:38,040 Speaker 2: pretty common in this country. It's common enough that you 193 00:10:38,120 --> 00:10:41,000 Speaker 2: have to be on guard for it. The most fundamental freedoms, 194 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:45,880 Speaker 2: the most basic constitutional freedoms aren't incidentally under assault. The 195 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:50,559 Speaker 2: left is waging and all out storm the trenches destroy 196 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: campaign for the most important liberties that we have, and 197 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:55,320 Speaker 2: they're doing it every day. 198 00:10:55,840 --> 00:10:57,560 Speaker 1: And I also want to mention, by the way, buck 199 00:10:57,640 --> 00:11:00,679 Speaker 1: we said that this would get struck down as unconn institutional, 200 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 1: but Joe Biden and his advisors mostly knew this. This 201 00:11:04,400 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 1: was a calculated attempt to try to drive up young 202 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 1: voter turnout in the midterms. And now that it's been 203 00:11:11,520 --> 00:11:15,080 Speaker 1: struck down, Biden or whomever the nominee is going to 204 00:11:15,120 --> 00:11:20,280 Speaker 1: be will run against the illegitimacy of the court and argue, hey, 205 00:11:20,320 --> 00:11:24,240 Speaker 1: if you want student loan debt relief, then you need 206 00:11:24,240 --> 00:11:26,640 Speaker 1: to vote for me so we can replace these justices 207 00:11:26,720 --> 00:11:29,120 Speaker 1: and or potentially pack the court, which is where I 208 00:11:29,120 --> 00:11:29,880 Speaker 1: think this is headed. 209 00:11:32,000 --> 00:11:35,600 Speaker 2: I do believe that court packing is on the dockets, 210 00:11:35,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 2: so to speak, for the next Biden term, if there 211 00:11:37,679 --> 00:11:41,640 Speaker 2: is one, I think that it would probably be Kamala 212 00:11:41,679 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 2: Harris appointing those justices. But nonetheless, I think that that 213 00:11:46,200 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 2: is absolutely why they create this. 214 00:11:50,120 --> 00:11:53,040 Speaker 3: The narrative really now is the court is illegitimate. That's 215 00:11:53,080 --> 00:11:56,120 Speaker 3: what they say. You know, when the right was losing and. 216 00:11:56,280 --> 00:11:59,120 Speaker 2: The Democrats got used to having the Supreme Court as 217 00:11:59,320 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 2: on key cases for a long time. They're super legislature. 218 00:12:03,679 --> 00:12:05,839 Speaker 2: They can't get it through Congress, they'll get it through 219 00:12:05,840 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 2: the court. They can't get the people to vote for it, 220 00:12:08,880 --> 00:12:11,920 Speaker 2: they will get the justices to mandate it. That's been 221 00:12:12,360 --> 00:12:15,800 Speaker 2: really clay for our you know, most of our adult lives, 222 00:12:16,280 --> 00:12:18,640 Speaker 2: that's been and even before we're paying attention to politics, 223 00:12:18,679 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 2: that's been the reality. Well that has finally changed, and 224 00:12:22,880 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 2: they're not acclimating to it. I remember what it was 225 00:12:26,640 --> 00:12:30,120 Speaker 2: like when conservatives felt like every time something important went 226 00:12:30,160 --> 00:12:32,200 Speaker 2: to the court, we were getting five to four decisions 227 00:12:32,240 --> 00:12:35,360 Speaker 2: against us. Our attitude. You never heard the right talk 228 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:38,400 Speaker 2: about court packing. You never heard the right talk about. 229 00:12:38,120 --> 00:12:40,960 Speaker 3: How, oh, but the Supreme Court doesn't count anymore, we're. 230 00:12:40,840 --> 00:12:43,360 Speaker 2: Gonna it was all right, we've got to get better 231 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,000 Speaker 2: constitutionalist justices the next time around. 232 00:12:46,240 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 3: We've got to work to educate the public. 233 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:51,040 Speaker 2: But you know, our response to this is how do 234 00:12:51,080 --> 00:12:53,079 Speaker 2: we win within the system the next time around. The 235 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,960 Speaker 2: left's responses tear it all down, you know, break into 236 00:12:56,000 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 2: the Apple store and loot it like they're doing it 237 00:12:57,760 --> 00:12:59,680 Speaker 2: in France right now, or. 238 00:12:59,760 --> 00:13:06,040 Speaker 1: Kill Brett Kavanaugh. It's amazing how that just vanished, right Buck, 239 00:13:06,080 --> 00:13:10,360 Speaker 1: I mean, you literally had a guy show up armed 240 00:13:10,600 --> 00:13:12,920 Speaker 1: outside of Brett Kavanaugh's house to try to murder him 241 00:13:13,320 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 1: so that he couldn't have the law that his vote 242 00:13:17,679 --> 00:13:20,200 Speaker 1: didn't count right after the Leak Supreme Court opinion. It's 243 00:13:20,240 --> 00:13:23,959 Speaker 1: amazing how that story just vanishes. Never happened before Leake 244 00:13:24,080 --> 00:13:27,840 Speaker 1: Supreme Court opinion and an attempted assassination to keep that 245 00:13:27,920 --> 00:13:30,400 Speaker 1: opinion from becoming the law on the land. If a 246 00:13:30,520 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: right winger had done that, it would be one of 247 00:13:34,040 --> 00:13:36,560 Speaker 1: the top two or three stories that gets run all 248 00:13:36,640 --> 00:13:41,280 Speaker 1: the time on the left news cycle. Instead, they just 249 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:44,840 Speaker 1: pretend that that didn't happens. 250 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,079 Speaker 3: It's true. We'll come back. We'll take a lot of 251 00:13:47,120 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 3: your calls. 252 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:50,880 Speaker 2: It's Friday, after all, it's going into an Independence Day weekend. 253 00:13:51,080 --> 00:13:54,080 Speaker 2: So much to discuss here. Eight hundred two A two 254 00:13:54,160 --> 00:13:57,280 Speaker 2: two eight A two Clay, we are going to have 255 00:13:57,320 --> 00:13:59,120 Speaker 2: to you. We'll have a little we'll talk about mister 256 00:13:59,240 --> 00:13:59,960 Speaker 2: RFK Junior. 257 00:14:00,080 --> 00:14:02,440 Speaker 1: I little think he may be the nominee for John 258 00:14:03,920 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 1: All right, we're going to have to have a little 259 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:08,880 Speaker 1: dis little back and forth over RFK Junior. 260 00:14:08,920 --> 00:14:10,280 Speaker 2: I don't know if you saw what he said about 261 00:14:10,280 --> 00:14:11,679 Speaker 2: some of the stuff going on right now. 262 00:14:11,720 --> 00:14:12,959 Speaker 3: But you got to stay with us and we'll get 263 00:14:12,960 --> 00:14:13,319 Speaker 3: into it. 264 00:14:13,840 --> 00:14:16,240 Speaker 2: There's an economist out there with an opinion that you 265 00:14:16,320 --> 00:14:18,240 Speaker 2: need to hear, issuing a strong warning. 266 00:14:18,240 --> 00:14:19,600 Speaker 3: Her name is Nomi Prince. 267 00:14:20,000 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 2: She says a small group of financial elites are plotting 268 00:14:22,560 --> 00:14:25,640 Speaker 2: drastic action unlike anything we've seen in fifty plus years 269 00:14:25,680 --> 00:14:28,560 Speaker 2: since nineteen seventy one. Nomi says, the White House, the 270 00:14:28,640 --> 00:14:31,440 Speaker 2: World Economic Forum, even Bill Gates are all involved. 271 00:14:32,120 --> 00:14:32,960 Speaker 3: According to her. 272 00:14:32,800 --> 00:14:36,000 Speaker 2: Research, your ability to spend, borrow, save, and invest could 273 00:14:36,080 --> 00:14:38,840 Speaker 2: soon be restricted with the push of a button. Our 274 00:14:38,880 --> 00:14:41,440 Speaker 2: financial system is about to be transformed in a way 275 00:14:41,480 --> 00:14:43,360 Speaker 2: that would have been unthinkable just a few years ago. 276 00:14:43,400 --> 00:14:46,600 Speaker 2: And it all starts next month in July. Bank of 277 00:14:46,640 --> 00:14:49,840 Speaker 2: America is calling it inevitable. If you've got any money 278 00:14:49,840 --> 00:14:52,320 Speaker 2: in a US bank account of retirement plan, pay attention 279 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:56,800 Speaker 2: to this. Get all the facts at Disappearing dollar dot Com. 280 00:14:57,000 --> 00:14:58,680 Speaker 2: You may not like what doctor Prince has to say, 281 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 2: but at the very least you'll be prepared when events 282 00:15:01,360 --> 00:15:04,240 Speaker 2: take a turn for the worst. That website again is 283 00:15:04,280 --> 00:15:08,360 Speaker 2: Disappearing dollar dot com again. That's Disappearing dollar dot com 284 00:15:08,400 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 2: paid for by rogue economics. All right, Welcome Back Team 285 00:15:19,640 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: eight hundred two eight two two eight eight two. There 286 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:28,000 Speaker 2: are some moments where something goes so viral online that 287 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,640 Speaker 2: I think, Clay, everybody, at least everyone who's living this 288 00:15:31,720 --> 00:15:33,920 Speaker 2: online existence that we do, has to take note of it. 289 00:15:34,920 --> 00:15:39,040 Speaker 2: I am slightly familiar with this account, having seen before 290 00:15:39,520 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 2: this is on Twitter for everybody, having seen before a 291 00:15:43,440 --> 00:15:47,800 Speaker 2: lot of attacks on Republicans conservatives from it. 292 00:15:47,800 --> 00:15:48,640 Speaker 3: It's it's a. 293 00:15:48,960 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 2: Young woman who goes by the handle Erica Report and 294 00:15:53,560 --> 00:15:55,680 Speaker 2: this this tweet I got. I should check what it 295 00:15:55,720 --> 00:15:57,160 Speaker 2: is now. As of last night, I think it have 296 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 2: been seen six million times, so it's it's getting a 297 00:16:01,240 --> 00:16:06,000 Speaker 2: lot of play. She's a Democrat activist who has she 298 00:16:06,280 --> 00:16:08,520 Speaker 2: her in her profile bio. 299 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 3: Now. 300 00:16:09,120 --> 00:16:10,840 Speaker 2: I know there are some who are saying this is 301 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:15,000 Speaker 2: a parody account. I can neither confirm nor deny. I 302 00:16:15,080 --> 00:16:17,280 Speaker 2: do not believe it as a parody, but I don't 303 00:16:17,280 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 2: know for sure. 304 00:16:18,600 --> 00:16:22,600 Speaker 1: But this individual tweeted out today's Supreme Court decision this 305 00:16:22,640 --> 00:16:26,360 Speaker 1: is from yesterday is a direct attack on black people. 306 00:16:27,080 --> 00:16:29,520 Speaker 1: No black person will be able to succeed in a 307 00:16:29,600 --> 00:16:32,720 Speaker 1: merit based system, which is exactly why affirmative action based 308 00:16:32,720 --> 00:16:36,520 Speaker 1: programs were needed. Today's decision is a travesty. 309 00:16:38,160 --> 00:16:39,120 Speaker 3: Now this is just one. 310 00:16:39,000 --> 00:16:41,840 Speaker 1: Person, I understand, but a lot of people saw this 311 00:16:42,560 --> 00:16:47,480 Speaker 1: and were reminded of the quiet bigotry that often exists 312 00:16:47,480 --> 00:16:49,520 Speaker 1: on the left with regard to a lot of these 313 00:16:49,560 --> 00:16:52,680 Speaker 1: programs and stuff, which is that they say things either 314 00:16:52,720 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 1: in public or in private like this Clay to which 315 00:16:54,960 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 1: everybody else goes No. A lot of black people will 316 00:16:57,600 --> 00:17:01,040 Speaker 1: do fantastically, don't say crazy racist, weird things. 317 00:17:01,080 --> 00:17:02,840 Speaker 3: What is wrong with the libs? 318 00:17:03,600 --> 00:17:07,040 Speaker 1: Twenty two point three million people have seen that tweet. 319 00:17:06,720 --> 00:17:09,840 Speaker 2: Buck, That's one of the most viral tweets I've seen 320 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:10,800 Speaker 2: in months. 321 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:15,240 Speaker 1: Yeah, and it is sadly, as you said, emblematic of 322 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:20,880 Speaker 1: what many white liberals believe, which is that minorities are 323 00:17:20,920 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: not capable of success in this country, and so that's 324 00:17:24,720 --> 00:17:26,879 Speaker 1: why the rules have to be bent and changed in 325 00:17:26,920 --> 00:17:29,560 Speaker 1: their favor, which is super racist. 326 00:17:30,000 --> 00:17:30,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it just is. 327 00:17:30,840 --> 00:17:37,040 Speaker 1: It's it assumes inferiority. You remember that great viral video 328 00:17:37,119 --> 00:17:39,480 Speaker 1: the comedian I think it was Ryan Long did where 329 00:17:39,480 --> 00:17:43,280 Speaker 1: it was like what super woke people believe and what 330 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 1: super racist people believe, and it points out that they 331 00:17:47,320 --> 00:17:52,560 Speaker 1: actually have essentially many of the same beliefs because I 332 00:17:52,720 --> 00:17:54,120 Speaker 1: go in full full. 333 00:17:54,359 --> 00:17:58,359 Speaker 2: There's an extreme a lot of white liberals, an extreme 334 00:17:58,520 --> 00:18:02,600 Speaker 2: condescension towards certain my minorities came out unintentionally when they 335 00:18:02,600 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 2: were responding to that affirmative action case. 336 00:18:04,880 --> 00:18:07,760 Speaker 1: No doubt, do something good for yourself right now, buy 337 00:18:07,840 --> 00:18:10,920 Speaker 1: yourself a pair of my slippers from my Pillow while 338 00:18:10,960 --> 00:18:14,280 Speaker 1: they're on sell at twenty five bucks a pair, eighty 339 00:18:14,320 --> 00:18:18,200 Speaker 1: per plus percent discount off the regular price. 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Enter 350 00:18:53,040 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: the promo code Clay and Buck eight hundred seven nine 351 00:18:56,320 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 1: to two thirty two sixty nine. Welcome back in Clay 352 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:11,600 Speaker 1: Travis Buck Sexton Show. I want to play some of 353 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:17,760 Speaker 1: the reactions on CNN and MSNBC so that those of 354 00:19:17,800 --> 00:19:20,560 Speaker 1: you out there who probably are not spending very much 355 00:19:20,600 --> 00:19:25,480 Speaker 1: time watching CNN, R or MSNBC are aware of what's 356 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: being said. But before I do that, I want to 357 00:19:29,000 --> 00:19:33,720 Speaker 1: make sure that we don't forget the lovely ladies on 358 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:39,199 Speaker 1: the view who consistently have the stupidest opinions anywhere in media. 359 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 1: Here's Whoope Goldberg yesterday reacting to the Supreme Court decision 360 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,640 Speaker 1: ending affirmative action in colleges and universities. 361 00:19:47,880 --> 00:19:50,119 Speaker 5: And there's a Washington Post poll that says more than 362 00:19:50,200 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 5: six and ten Americans oppose the use of race and 363 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:55,679 Speaker 5: college admissions, however, and equally strong majority favorite efforts to 364 00:19:55,680 --> 00:19:59,120 Speaker 5: boost racial diversity on campus A race, there's it does matter. Ever, 365 00:19:59,200 --> 00:20:00,919 Speaker 5: I think most of my because agree there has to 366 00:20:00,920 --> 00:20:01,480 Speaker 5: be reported. 367 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,040 Speaker 6: But when you have a justice who says something as 368 00:20:04,160 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 6: ridiculous as I don't get it, it just makes a kid, 369 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:10,720 Speaker 6: an Asian kid, and a Native American kid, a black kid, 370 00:20:10,920 --> 00:20:13,359 Speaker 6: feel like you don't matter, Like you didn't you don't 371 00:20:13,440 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 6: understand why my struggle is hard, or your struggle or 372 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 6: your struggle. You know, is this leading to no women 373 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,320 Speaker 6: in colleges soon? 374 00:20:22,400 --> 00:20:25,119 Speaker 2: I mean that that's amazing, because there are more women 375 00:20:25,119 --> 00:20:28,160 Speaker 2: than men in college in America right now. Women outperform 376 00:20:28,240 --> 00:20:31,199 Speaker 2: men on average on the SAT and and you know, 377 00:20:32,040 --> 00:20:35,399 Speaker 2: women are taking over colleges. No women in colleges, this 378 00:20:35,560 --> 00:20:38,679 Speaker 2: is insane. But I also think Clay, a lot of 379 00:20:38,680 --> 00:20:42,520 Speaker 2: the affirmative action commentary that you hear from the from 380 00:20:42,560 --> 00:20:45,840 Speaker 2: the you know, the punditocracy out there, they just have 381 00:20:45,920 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 2: no idea what they're talking about when it comes to 382 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,440 Speaker 2: how the system actually functions. They don't understand this whole part. 383 00:20:52,800 --> 00:20:54,880 Speaker 2: They think of this as you know, and you even 384 00:20:54,920 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 2: saw this in some of the sort of my ore 385 00:20:57,680 --> 00:21:01,399 Speaker 2: and and Jackson descents it, well, this is about you know, 386 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:05,399 Speaker 2: the legacy of slavery and all the suppression and okay, 387 00:21:05,440 --> 00:21:09,280 Speaker 2: what about Hispanics? Yeah, and okay, what about Asians? And 388 00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:12,359 Speaker 2: what about Middle Easterners and what about you know, go 389 00:21:12,480 --> 00:21:14,879 Speaker 2: down the list, what about people who are you know, 390 00:21:14,960 --> 00:21:18,040 Speaker 2: come from the Pacific islands like we have there's a 391 00:21:18,080 --> 00:21:20,399 Speaker 2: point system they have for all these people, whether they 392 00:21:20,440 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 2: say it or not, and that's gross and it's unconstitutional. 393 00:21:24,840 --> 00:21:26,000 Speaker 3: But they keep falling into this. 394 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:28,159 Speaker 1: Oh, but what about what about all the racism in 395 00:21:28,200 --> 00:21:30,760 Speaker 1: America that exists and has existed in the past. And 396 00:21:30,800 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 1: you say, so an Asian you know, first generation or 397 00:21:34,840 --> 00:21:37,160 Speaker 1: any Asian American in this country. But an Asian first 398 00:21:37,200 --> 00:21:41,640 Speaker 1: generation immigrant whose parents arrive here penniless, he or she 399 00:21:41,880 --> 00:21:47,280 Speaker 1: has to pay the price for the history of American racism. 400 00:21:47,400 --> 00:21:49,359 Speaker 1: And and you know the history of slavery one hundred 401 00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:52,720 Speaker 1: and fifty years ago. That makes sense to somebody explain 402 00:21:52,800 --> 00:21:56,679 Speaker 1: that one like, it's just it's delusional. Yeah. And by 403 00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,119 Speaker 1: the way, on what pe Goldberg saying, is this going 404 00:21:59,200 --> 00:22:02,199 Speaker 1: to lead to no women in colleges? Buck? To your point, 405 00:22:02,520 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 1: sixty percent of all college graduates are women now sixty percent. 406 00:22:06,440 --> 00:22:09,119 Speaker 1: It's I mean, that is a staggering stock. Most people 407 00:22:09,160 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 1: listening to us right now we're not aware sixty percent 408 00:22:12,480 --> 00:22:16,240 Speaker 1: of college graduates are now women. So, yes, this is 409 00:22:16,280 --> 00:22:19,200 Speaker 1: not going to have. If anything, there should be affirmative 410 00:22:19,240 --> 00:22:21,399 Speaker 1: action for men so that we get back closer to 411 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:26,400 Speaker 1: fifty to fifty. Okay, Buck, This was CNN a anchor there, 412 00:22:26,960 --> 00:22:31,520 Speaker 1: Sarah Sidner, I don't know her. She says that the 413 00:22:31,560 --> 00:22:35,000 Speaker 1: Supreme Court decision on free speech today may well lead 414 00:22:35,040 --> 00:22:36,320 Speaker 1: to the return of Jim Crow. 415 00:22:36,400 --> 00:22:41,480 Speaker 7: Listen, what is your reaction to this and what the fallout? 416 00:22:41,760 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 7: May well be a lot of people worrying about things 417 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:49,480 Speaker 7: like Jim Crow. Could somebody decide that they want black 418 00:22:49,480 --> 00:22:51,920 Speaker 7: folks to come in the back door because they don't 419 00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,960 Speaker 7: want them in their store. I mean, how far might 420 00:22:53,960 --> 00:22:54,400 Speaker 7: this go? 421 00:22:54,960 --> 00:22:58,240 Speaker 1: This is dumb on a level that is beyond dumb 422 00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:01,520 Speaker 1: even for CNN. Buck Look for people out there is 423 00:23:01,560 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: simply put, if you sell a product, anybody can walk 424 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:09,719 Speaker 1: in and buy that product, no matter what their background 425 00:23:09,880 --> 00:23:12,919 Speaker 1: is in the United States of America. But you cannot 426 00:23:12,960 --> 00:23:18,280 Speaker 1: mandate that someone use their unique and special talent that 427 00:23:18,359 --> 00:23:21,320 Speaker 1: you have to do something for them. This is like, 428 00:23:21,640 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: this is so simple, and yet they're trying to turn 429 00:23:25,520 --> 00:23:28,320 Speaker 1: it into something that is not remotely similar to I. 430 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 2: Think it's very clear that if the ACLU and the 431 00:23:31,320 --> 00:23:36,400 Speaker 2: activist left really got their way, it would be that, 432 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 2: you know, Catholic or Protestant priests have to do Satanic weddings. 433 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:45,680 Speaker 2: I mean if they, I mean eventually down the line, 434 00:23:46,040 --> 00:23:49,159 Speaker 2: it would be you know, you perform this for other people, 435 00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:52,320 Speaker 2: you do this for us you and I know people say, oh, 436 00:23:52,359 --> 00:23:54,879 Speaker 2: but what about the first Amendment right to religious liberty. 437 00:23:55,359 --> 00:23:58,800 Speaker 2: They're trying to destroy it, folks. They're actively trying to 438 00:23:58,920 --> 00:24:04,000 Speaker 2: make your religious belief something that you effectively have to hide, 439 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:07,240 Speaker 2: like Christians do in Saudi Arabia, Like you can't do 440 00:24:07,280 --> 00:24:09,120 Speaker 2: it out in public, you can't wear a cruic bixs, 441 00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:12,360 Speaker 2: you can't do all this stuff. They're also lined everybody 442 00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:14,200 Speaker 2: about what's really an issue here. I mean, that's the 443 00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 2: biggest part of it. Refusing service to a gay couple 444 00:24:17,359 --> 00:24:18,240 Speaker 2: is what they always say. 445 00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:20,080 Speaker 1: They leave out of this what I brought up, which 446 00:24:20,119 --> 00:24:21,920 Speaker 1: is that you have these activists. 447 00:24:21,400 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 3: Who go searching for I'm just gonna throw this out there. 448 00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:30,920 Speaker 2: There aren't that many evangelical cake makers in Colorado, right, 449 00:24:30,960 --> 00:24:32,840 Speaker 2: I mean, you know, I'm not saying there aren't a handful, 450 00:24:32,920 --> 00:24:34,720 Speaker 2: but this like you have to go and find one. 451 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:39,720 Speaker 2: And they went and they found Jack Phillips Masterpiece cake Shop. 452 00:24:40,160 --> 00:24:41,840 Speaker 2: And what they don't report on is that they didn't 453 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 2: just wanted to make a cake for a gay wedding. 454 00:24:43,320 --> 00:24:45,040 Speaker 2: They want them to make satanic cakes, they want her 455 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:46,399 Speaker 2: to make graphic sexual cakes. 456 00:24:46,440 --> 00:24:48,240 Speaker 3: It was all just bend the knee. 457 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:52,640 Speaker 2: The left gets to call the shots, and with this case, 458 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:55,600 Speaker 2: of the graphic designer. She has off the shelf products 459 00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:58,520 Speaker 2: for weddings. You can have the you know, the a 460 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 2: here's the template, you go, there's the website for your wedding. 461 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:05,320 Speaker 3: But they can't make her go and use. 462 00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:08,560 Speaker 2: Her creative skills and her knowledge to do something that 463 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:11,600 Speaker 2: is specific for a ceremony she doesn't agree with. So 464 00:25:11,640 --> 00:25:15,400 Speaker 2: it's a very narrow protection of religious freedom. And they 465 00:25:15,400 --> 00:25:17,280 Speaker 2: act like, you know, people are saying, what about the 466 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:21,000 Speaker 2: return of Jim Crow, because if we don't have totalitarians 467 00:25:21,040 --> 00:25:23,000 Speaker 2: in the left, cries. I just want to understand, if 468 00:25:23,000 --> 00:25:26,240 Speaker 2: we don't live in a totalitarian society where the left 469 00:25:26,480 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 2: can be as anti God and can be as obsessed 470 00:25:29,440 --> 00:25:31,879 Speaker 2: with race as they possibly want, they're going to cry 471 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:34,480 Speaker 2: and say that, you know, Hitler has come to America. 472 00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:40,560 Speaker 1: Here's another CNN discussion buck They said, because this website, 473 00:25:40,680 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 1: free speech case exists. Up next, interracial weddings aren't going 474 00:25:47,400 --> 00:25:49,480 Speaker 1: to be allowed. Listen to cut three. 475 00:25:49,680 --> 00:25:49,880 Speaker 8: Here. 476 00:25:49,960 --> 00:25:51,800 Speaker 3: The court has found this is speech. 477 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:56,120 Speaker 1: There is expressive content here, and therefore it is entitled 478 00:25:56,200 --> 00:25:58,359 Speaker 1: to First Amendment protection. But that leads to all sorts 479 00:25:58,359 --> 00:25:59,000 Speaker 1: of questions. 480 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:03,760 Speaker 3: How about catering? Is there an artistic expresses more laws. 481 00:26:03,800 --> 00:26:06,119 Speaker 1: This is what we're gonna see, right, Absolutely. 482 00:26:05,640 --> 00:26:08,280 Speaker 4: I suppose this wedding website designer, when she actually does 483 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,040 Speaker 4: go into business, can't say you. 484 00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:11,639 Speaker 3: Can't come in the store, right, Right? 485 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,199 Speaker 4: And there are some things that maybe I could be 486 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,520 Speaker 4: forced to do, but designing a website for a gay 487 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,959 Speaker 4: wedding is not one of them, right. 488 00:26:20,000 --> 00:26:22,280 Speaker 3: I mean that was one of the hotly contested questions here. 489 00:26:22,520 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 3: Can she turn away? 490 00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,920 Speaker 1: Let's say if a biracial couple comes in or an 491 00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,600 Speaker 1: interracial couple comes in, right, And that's the concerned voice 492 00:26:29,640 --> 00:26:30,119 Speaker 1: in the dissent. 493 00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,320 Speaker 3: Where is the line here? 494 00:26:31,920 --> 00:26:34,719 Speaker 1: I don't see this as remotely difficult, Buck, If you 495 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:39,640 Speaker 1: are skilled in some way, you aren't compelled to have 496 00:26:39,680 --> 00:26:42,560 Speaker 1: to service everyone and take it outside of this particular 497 00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:45,960 Speaker 1: kind of website. I owned a website that I sold OutKick. 498 00:26:46,520 --> 00:26:49,760 Speaker 1: Someone could look at my website, Buck and say, you 499 00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:53,520 Speaker 1: know what, I don't want to use my specific set 500 00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:57,800 Speaker 1: of skills to work on Clay Travis's website because I 501 00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,840 Speaker 1: disagree with the political opinions that are shared there. Good 502 00:27:01,840 --> 00:27:05,280 Speaker 1: for you. You should be able to make that choice. You 503 00:27:05,359 --> 00:27:10,480 Speaker 1: should be able to choose how you use your labor. 504 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 1: And again, this is not complicated to me because let's 505 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:18,200 Speaker 1: just say that you sell cakes that are already made. 506 00:27:18,280 --> 00:27:19,600 Speaker 1: It just says happy Birthday on it. 507 00:27:19,680 --> 00:27:19,800 Speaker 8: Right. 508 00:27:19,840 --> 00:27:22,800 Speaker 1: If you go into a lot of places, they have 509 00:27:22,920 --> 00:27:25,040 Speaker 1: these pre made cakes. Right, you can just go buy 510 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:27,520 Speaker 1: a happy birthday cake. Anybody should be able to buy that. 511 00:27:27,960 --> 00:27:29,040 Speaker 3: But when you have. 512 00:27:29,119 --> 00:27:32,600 Speaker 1: A unique talent and you are asked to use that 513 00:27:32,840 --> 00:27:35,920 Speaker 1: unique talent for something that you disagree with, this doesn't 514 00:27:35,960 --> 00:27:38,119 Speaker 1: seem challenging to me at all. You shouldn't have to 515 00:27:38,119 --> 00:27:41,280 Speaker 1: do it. You shouldn't be able to be compelled to 516 00:27:41,480 --> 00:27:44,400 Speaker 1: have to do something that you disagree with. We all 517 00:27:44,520 --> 00:27:47,800 Speaker 1: choose whether to sell our labor and use our voice 518 00:27:47,840 --> 00:27:48,640 Speaker 1: as we see fit. 519 00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,000 Speaker 2: I also think it's worth noting the same the exact 520 00:27:52,040 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 2: same people you see on TV, the same activists, the 521 00:27:56,520 --> 00:28:00,800 Speaker 2: same left wing legal organizations that are in a frenzy 522 00:28:01,080 --> 00:28:04,440 Speaker 2: about oh my gosh. You know, if you can't make 523 00:28:04,520 --> 00:28:08,840 Speaker 2: this person use her creative talent for the expression of 524 00:28:08,920 --> 00:28:10,520 Speaker 2: a new website, and you can't just buy one of 525 00:28:10,520 --> 00:28:12,720 Speaker 2: the websites she already has it and can buy, we're 526 00:28:12,720 --> 00:28:14,879 Speaker 2: heading back to, you know, Jim Crow, whatever it was 527 00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:19,600 Speaker 2: that CNN analyst or anchor said, all these same individuals 528 00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:22,800 Speaker 2: we're making that those kinds of claims would agree with 529 00:28:22,840 --> 00:28:25,240 Speaker 2: the Michigan If you use the wrong pronoun, you should 530 00:28:25,280 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 2: probably be find ten thousand dollars. Just so you know, 531 00:28:27,400 --> 00:28:30,320 Speaker 2: just so everyone's clear on who they are, they think 532 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 2: that you should be fined ten thousand dollars because you 533 00:28:33,400 --> 00:28:35,879 Speaker 2: say that a man is a man. This is what 534 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,479 Speaker 2: we're heading toward in society. This is the reality that 535 00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 2: we face. So you know, we've got these are the 536 00:28:42,240 --> 00:28:44,719 Speaker 2: right Supreme Court decisions. But I also, Clay, I have 537 00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,280 Speaker 2: to stop and say the fact that these are even 538 00:28:48,360 --> 00:28:52,760 Speaker 2: things that have to be adjudicated, and that it's just 539 00:28:52,800 --> 00:28:56,160 Speaker 2: the beginning, shows you how far things have gone in 540 00:28:56,200 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 2: the other direction. 541 00:28:57,400 --> 00:28:59,160 Speaker 3: I mean, what really happened. 542 00:28:59,160 --> 00:29:02,680 Speaker 2: I mean, underlying the wh whole affirmative action situation is 543 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,720 Speaker 2: about whatever twenty thirty years ago it. 544 00:29:06,600 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 3: Was you can't have quotas, because we understand that's just wrong. 545 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:10,960 Speaker 3: You can't have quotas. So all the universities just set 546 00:29:11,000 --> 00:29:11,920 Speaker 3: up stealth quotas. 547 00:29:12,160 --> 00:29:15,680 Speaker 1: They created all this flowery language about diversity and inclusion 548 00:29:15,800 --> 00:29:18,520 Speaker 1: and the benefits of a quotas. 549 00:29:18,720 --> 00:29:21,440 Speaker 2: Yes, that's what they were doing. Just whoever understands the 550 00:29:21,480 --> 00:29:24,080 Speaker 2: whole thing was alive. They set up quotas, which is 551 00:29:24,080 --> 00:29:27,160 Speaker 2: why Harvard lost because you could see the same number 552 00:29:27,160 --> 00:29:29,080 Speaker 2: of black students, same number of eight and students same 553 00:29:29,200 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 2: you know, within a percentage point or two. Mathematically, Does 554 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 2: anyone think that's the way it's really going to go? 555 00:29:34,440 --> 00:29:37,040 Speaker 1: The problem is, Buck, you're well right here when we 556 00:29:37,040 --> 00:29:39,240 Speaker 1: talked about it yesterday, they're just going to keep doing 557 00:29:39,280 --> 00:29:42,200 Speaker 1: it and demand that they be sued. And you know, well, 558 00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:43,480 Speaker 1: this is what this is what I mean, a way 559 00:29:43,480 --> 00:29:43,960 Speaker 1: to hide. 560 00:29:44,040 --> 00:29:46,280 Speaker 2: So while these are the right Supreme Court decisions, Okay, 561 00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,280 Speaker 2: so Biden can't just wave a magic wand and give 562 00:29:48,320 --> 00:29:50,320 Speaker 2: four hundred billion dollars to people that he thinks are 563 00:29:50,360 --> 00:29:53,440 Speaker 2: likely to vote for him, because he says so. The 564 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,640 Speaker 2: fact that the President of the United States right now 565 00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,240 Speaker 2: took that action just goes to show you how lawless 566 00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,520 Speaker 2: he acts, truly is. 567 00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:02,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, he doesn't care, It's true. 568 00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:04,080 Speaker 1: So you know what I mean, It's like Iran to 569 00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,000 Speaker 1: hand with the eviction moratorium. Buck, that was even crazier. 570 00:30:07,200 --> 00:30:11,080 Speaker 1: He said he didn't have the authority to do it himself, 571 00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:13,840 Speaker 1: and he did it anyway. That is one of the 572 00:30:13,840 --> 00:30:16,760 Speaker 1: most egregious acts imaginable. All his advisers told him he 573 00:30:16,760 --> 00:30:19,120 Speaker 1: couldn't do this. This was all political on student loan. 574 00:30:19,320 --> 00:30:20,920 Speaker 2: One thing that and you know, we'll get into some 575 00:30:20,960 --> 00:30:22,360 Speaker 2: of your calls here in a second, but I just 576 00:30:22,360 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 2: want to put this out there forever. 577 00:30:23,560 --> 00:30:25,440 Speaker 3: One thing that the Left has become really. 578 00:30:27,040 --> 00:30:29,800 Speaker 2: Really confident in doing on a regular basis as part 579 00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 2: of the strategy is doing things that they no violate 580 00:30:32,800 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 2: core principles, that they no violate the Constitution, that they 581 00:30:35,480 --> 00:30:38,560 Speaker 2: know aren't going to survive judicial scrutiny. But they just figured, 582 00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,040 Speaker 2: let's get away with it as long as we can. 583 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:40,720 Speaker 3: Yep. 584 00:30:41,400 --> 00:30:43,520 Speaker 2: Let's just see how long it takes to grind through 585 00:30:43,560 --> 00:30:46,280 Speaker 2: the system, how many people we can actually get to 586 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:50,160 Speaker 2: just go along with our totalitarian instincts. That's what you say. 587 00:30:50,280 --> 00:30:52,440 Speaker 2: It's huge with the two A with Second Amendment issues too. 588 00:30:52,440 --> 00:30:54,560 Speaker 2: They do the same thing and all these Blue states. 589 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,120 Speaker 1: And then buck even nastier than that. They then say 590 00:30:57,160 --> 00:31:00,000 Speaker 1: the Supreme Court's illegitimate, when the Supreme Court actually stayed, 591 00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,240 Speaker 1: ends up and enforces the Constitution, which allows them to 592 00:31:03,280 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 1: then continue their argument, which is where we're headed. Let's 593 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: be clear that they're going to court pack and it's 594 00:31:07,840 --> 00:31:09,760 Speaker 1: necessary to add additional justices. 595 00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,720 Speaker 2: Yes, Democrats, the Party of irrational Tantrums. Look, we're big 596 00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:17,160 Speaker 2: fans of Chalk, the all natural supplement company in Texas 597 00:31:17,160 --> 00:31:20,040 Speaker 2: and a sponsor of this program. They're patriots, they appreciate 598 00:31:20,120 --> 00:31:23,360 Speaker 2: independence and self reliance, and they make phenomenal products. 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All right, 615 00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,480 Speaker 2: welcome back to Clay and Buck. Uh just want to 616 00:32:24,480 --> 00:32:26,960 Speaker 2: remind you all please subscribe, become a VIP go to 617 00:32:26,960 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 2: Clayndbuck dot com and uh, if you're not already subscribe 618 00:32:30,920 --> 00:32:33,960 Speaker 2: to our podcast, you should do so. The iHeartRadio app 619 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 2: a great place to listen to the podcast, and you 620 00:32:37,400 --> 00:32:39,400 Speaker 2: can subscribe to Clay and Buck there. There's content that's 621 00:32:39,440 --> 00:32:42,880 Speaker 2: not available any any other way because while we do 622 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:45,800 Speaker 2: this radio show, we're adding other things into that feed, 623 00:32:45,880 --> 00:32:48,360 Speaker 2: that stream. We want to take some of your calls 624 00:32:48,360 --> 00:32:51,240 Speaker 2: before we get to them though. R f K Junior, 625 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,120 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna say, we gotta we gotta have a 626 00:32:55,120 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: little little talk here, everybody, little talk about the latest 627 00:32:58,960 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 2: RFK Junior statements. 628 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:01,560 Speaker 3: Weighing in on. 629 00:33:03,000 --> 00:33:05,960 Speaker 2: I Love Them, on COVID, on some other stuff. We 630 00:33:06,080 --> 00:33:08,680 Speaker 2: got to have a discussion. I'm not saying it's it's 631 00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 2: all over. I'm just saying it's, uh, my my initial 632 00:33:12,240 --> 00:33:15,040 Speaker 2: instincts about some things were correct. We'll get to that, 633 00:33:15,480 --> 00:33:17,239 Speaker 2: you know, coming up in the next hour. So that's 634 00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,600 Speaker 2: a few minutes out here. Plus Clay we did he 635 00:33:20,960 --> 00:33:23,160 Speaker 2: is he is very buff, though he has that going 636 00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:23,560 Speaker 2: for him. 637 00:33:23,800 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: Super ripped. I'm gonna get super ripped one day, Buck 638 00:33:26,320 --> 00:33:28,200 Speaker 1: And like I've said for a long time, just claim 639 00:33:28,360 --> 00:33:29,840 Speaker 1: push up set ups. That's what I did. 640 00:33:30,360 --> 00:33:32,520 Speaker 3: I will tell you this, and I know about this. 641 00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:34,640 Speaker 1: I have some I have some friends who are and 642 00:33:34,720 --> 00:33:38,120 Speaker 1: I'm obviously not one of them. In the fitness industry, 643 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: you know, and the number of people who make, especially 644 00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,320 Speaker 1: later in life, radical transformations. I'm talking about forty or 645 00:33:46,360 --> 00:33:48,560 Speaker 1: fifty plus when they get in the best shape of 646 00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:51,600 Speaker 1: their life ever and they claim it's just from you know, 647 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:56,320 Speaker 1: intermittent fasting, eating chicken breast and like doing enough deadlifts. No, 648 00:33:57,200 --> 00:33:58,560 Speaker 1: that's not That's not the only. 649 00:33:58,400 --> 00:34:00,560 Speaker 3: Thing that's happening. I'm just I'm just putting out there. 650 00:34:01,000 --> 00:34:03,760 Speaker 1: You're more in the gym circuit than I am. Like 651 00:34:03,800 --> 00:34:06,360 Speaker 1: you're down in Miami and like these fancy gyms and stuff. 652 00:34:06,880 --> 00:34:09,720 Speaker 1: I can't get over the number of videos that people 653 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 1: take of themselves working out solo. 654 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,719 Speaker 2: Now there is something called tripod squad. And at the 655 00:34:15,760 --> 00:34:18,279 Speaker 2: gym where I go, where I wear a baggy T 656 00:34:18,400 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 2: shirt and try to mind my own business instead of 657 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:24,279 Speaker 2: everyone's way. Just so I'm as like unobtrusive and and 658 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:26,960 Speaker 2: you know, out of the way as possible. There are 659 00:34:27,040 --> 00:34:30,640 Speaker 2: women who put tripods down to film themselves working out 660 00:34:31,440 --> 00:34:35,440 Speaker 2: because they have millions of followers on social media. 661 00:34:35,560 --> 00:34:36,600 Speaker 1: This is crazy to me. 662 00:34:37,120 --> 00:34:40,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, I mean, you know it's a thing, 663 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:41,719 Speaker 3: so yeah, I. 664 00:34:41,680 --> 00:34:44,560 Speaker 1: Mean, I I don't know when this all started. It 665 00:34:44,640 --> 00:34:47,759 Speaker 1: seems crazy to me that I understand if you you know, 666 00:34:47,880 --> 00:34:49,960 Speaker 1: are involved in a sport, or you're working out in 667 00:34:50,000 --> 00:34:52,960 Speaker 1: a group, or even if you're doing like hey, I 668 00:34:53,000 --> 00:34:54,600 Speaker 1: want to see if I can jump up, you know 669 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:57,440 Speaker 1: on this new you know, new height or something like that, 670 00:34:57,480 --> 00:34:59,799 Speaker 1: and you've got a friend like holding it. But the 671 00:35:00,000 --> 00:35:03,719 Speaker 1: idea that you would like film your workouts and like 672 00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:06,640 Speaker 1: your squats and your bench presses, it's crazy to me. 673 00:35:07,120 --> 00:35:09,600 Speaker 2: It's a constant down here. I can say in Miami 674 00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:11,040 Speaker 2: for a lot of other players. I've never seen it 675 00:35:11,080 --> 00:35:13,080 Speaker 2: in New York before, to be fair, but I see 676 00:35:13,120 --> 00:35:15,120 Speaker 2: it on Instagram all the time when I scroll through. 677 00:35:15,160 --> 00:35:18,799 Speaker 2: It's just like mostly women, less than I mean, what 678 00:35:18,840 --> 00:35:20,480 Speaker 2: do you think ninety percent women doing. 679 00:35:20,280 --> 00:35:23,759 Speaker 3: This and they have millions of followers. Truly, how weird? 680 00:35:23,840 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: Is that to be a dude watching a chick work 681 00:35:25,840 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 1: out like that seems super weird to me. 682 00:35:28,600 --> 00:35:30,920 Speaker 3: I don't know, man. Yeah, let's get to some calls. 683 00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:33,719 Speaker 3: Bill in Maine, Bill, what have you got for us? 684 00:35:34,840 --> 00:35:41,680 Speaker 8: Hello? There. Dennos's rush would say, this is very simply 685 00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 8: a true free speechchase. Has nothing to do with public 686 00:35:46,960 --> 00:35:51,439 Speaker 8: accommodation or denial of service. If a gay person comes 687 00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:57,480 Speaker 8: in and ask for something just non controversial, or is 688 00:35:57,560 --> 00:36:01,880 Speaker 8: the person providing the service in this case content agrees with, 689 00:36:02,280 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 8: there's no problem. Similarly, if a straight person came in 690 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:13,360 Speaker 8: and demanded a message that is counter to the beliefs 691 00:36:13,560 --> 00:36:18,480 Speaker 8: of the provider, under free speech, the person can deny 692 00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:21,160 Speaker 8: the production of that message. 693 00:36:21,200 --> 00:36:24,120 Speaker 2: It's a good point, Yep, that's correct. Your read on 694 00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:26,040 Speaker 2: this is correct, sir, Thanks for calling and Bill, we'll 695 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:27,759 Speaker 2: get to some more calls in the next hour. So 696 00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:31,360 Speaker 2: are rent out of time there talking about tripod squad. 697 00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: I can't believe it. I can't believe this is real, 698 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:34,720 Speaker 1: that this is happening everywhere. 699 00:36:35,600 --> 00:36:38,680 Speaker 3: Well, some people find ways to monetize it too. Yeah, 700 00:36:39,239 --> 00:36:40,040 Speaker 3: we are going to talk. 701 00:36:40,560 --> 00:36:42,279 Speaker 2: I mean, hey, look at all the look at all 702 00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,040 Speaker 2: the media play RFK got for doing like nine pushups. Clay, 703 00:36:45,040 --> 00:36:47,680 Speaker 2: I'm just gonna throw this out there. We're not seventy, 704 00:36:47,719 --> 00:36:49,239 Speaker 2: but you and I could both do nine push ups. 705 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:50,680 Speaker 2: I don't think it would get millions of views. 706 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:54,120 Speaker 1: I did it live on television. Buck tried to do uh. 707 00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: I think it was fifty unbroken. How'd that goct not 708 00:36:58,800 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: that well