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Speaker 1: Welcome to today's edition of the Clay Travis and Buck

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Speaker 1: Sexton Show podcast. Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: Show President's Day edition of the program. Appreciate all of

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Speaker 1: you hanging out with us. We rolled through. Buck Sexton

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Speaker 1: will be back tomorrow and will be returning from his honeymoon.

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Speaker 1: He is back at stateside and has been texting me

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Speaker 1: so with forward to him being back in sell it

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Speaker 1: after having celebrated the honeymoon. We got a lot of

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Speaker 1: different stories that we're chasing. Want to update you on

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Speaker 1: the poll question, which has now been retweeted by Clay

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Speaker 1: and Buck. You can go vote in it yourself on Twitter,

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Speaker 1: and again I would just re emphasize that Twitter has

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Speaker 1: been far more welcoming since Elon Musk purchased it two

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Speaker 1: people being able to make whatever arguments they would like

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Speaker 1: to make on that site. And over ten thousand of

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Speaker 1: you have voted in the first thirty minutes that this

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Speaker 1: poll question has been up. What would you rather American

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Speaker 1: politicians have spent one hundred billion dollars on securing our

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Speaker 1: southern border or providing one hundred billion for Ukraine to

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Speaker 1: defend their border. Remember, this is your tax dollars. Ninety

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Speaker 1: four percent of you are saying you would rather a

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Speaker 1: hundred billion have been spent to protect the US border

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Speaker 1: as opposed to one hundred billion dollars for Ukraine. And

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Speaker 1: I think that the vast majority of Republicans would be

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Speaker 1: well served, as you heard in the first hour, to

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Speaker 1: be making the argument that at a time when there

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Speaker 1: are many domestic issues that need to be resolved, on

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Speaker 1: President's Day itself, Joe Biden has decided to leave the country,

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Speaker 1: go to Europe and celebrate with Vladimir Zalinski the fact

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Speaker 1: that we have given him one hundred billion dollars and

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Speaker 1: that we're going to continue to commit billions and billions more. Now,

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Speaker 1: we've been following a story that I think is that

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Speaker 1: I think is interesting as it pertains to Don Lemon,

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Speaker 1: our good buddy at CNN. Don Lemon was not at

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Speaker 1: work today because well he remains on vacation. I believe

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Speaker 1: he is still down in Miami. Ever since he said

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Speaker 1: that Nicky Haley was past her prime and that women

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Speaker 1: in their twenties, thirties, and forties were actually more in

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Speaker 1: their prime then from a political perspective, he's been backpedaling

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Speaker 1: he's been apologizing and there's now some discussion that he

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Speaker 1: may lose his job over this. I'll discuss that in

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Speaker 1: a moment, but I wanted to play for you CNN

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Speaker 1: addressing the fact that Don Lemon was not going to

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Speaker 1: be on the air earlier this morning, and this is

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Speaker 1: what it sounded like. This is CNN Breaking News. Good

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Speaker 1: morning everyone, We do begin with breaking news this morning.

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Speaker 1: President Biden makes a surprise visit to Ukraine. I'm Poppy

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Speaker 1: Harlowe in New York here with Sarah Seidner Caitlin Collins

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Speaker 1: is Live and Worst pull In, where the President will

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Speaker 1: be shortly. Don has the Day Off, Don Has the

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Speaker 1: Day Off, boom right off the top. Interesting the way

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Speaker 1: that they managed to handle that. Now. I don't believe

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Speaker 1: in cancel culture, and I understand some of you out

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Speaker 1: there are of the opinion that cancel culture should be

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Speaker 1: evenly applied to Democrats just like it is applied to Republicans.

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Speaker 1: I understand that argument. I think there's a great debate

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Speaker 1: on it. I actually believe Republicans should be the party

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Speaker 1: that is opposed to cancel culture. And if you need

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Speaker 1: a succinct definition of cancel culture, cancel culture is the

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Speaker 1: difference between saying I disagree with you because and just

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Speaker 1: laying out an argument of why you disagree with something

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Speaker 1: that someone else said. And I disagree with you, and

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Speaker 1: you no longer have the right to be employed. You

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Speaker 1: no longer have the right to be able to make

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Speaker 1: a living, You no longer have the right to have

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Speaker 1: this particular job right. Cancel. Culture is about silencing debate,

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Speaker 1: whereas debate itself the marketplace of ideas is about being

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Speaker 1: robust and uninhibited. I bring that up because there is

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Speaker 1: some suggestion that Don Lemon might end up losing his job,

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Speaker 1: and I don't want people to lose their jobs. I

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Speaker 1: defended Whoopi Goldberg when she made all of her continuing

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Speaker 1: ridiculous statements. I certainly don't want my good friend joy Behart,

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Speaker 1: aka the dumbest person who talks in media every single day,

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Speaker 1: to lose her job because of the wealth of materials

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Speaker 1: she provides us on this program to ridicule and lampoon

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Speaker 1: her with on a daily basis. But I do think

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Speaker 1: it's worth contemplating as Don Lemon remains under siege at CNN,

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Speaker 1: as CNN continues to hit absolute decade low in viewerships,

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Speaker 1: Trump ever got involved in politics. They clearly have no

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Speaker 1: idea what to do when they are floundering. But I

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Speaker 1: wanted to play this clip because Don Lemon ended up

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Speaker 1: being one of the leaders of the anti Trumper gade

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Speaker 1: and he went full on woke and his show turned

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Speaker 1: into left wing advocacy during the Trump administration, and the

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Speaker 1: amount of cheerleading that he did for the Biden administration

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Speaker 1: was embarrassing before he lost his job. But I don't

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Speaker 1: know how many of you have heard Don Lemon from

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Speaker 1: back in twenty thirteen. This is July of twenty thirteen

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Speaker 1: Don Lemon on his CNN program during the Barack Obama administration,

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Speaker 1: the second of the Barack Obama administrations. Just listen how

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Speaker 1: different conversation was. Here is Don Lemon saying what needs

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Speaker 1: to happen in the black community in order for things

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Speaker 1: to get better. Listen, here's number five. Pull up your pants.

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Speaker 1: Walking around with your ass and your underwear showing is

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Speaker 1: not okay. Number four now is the N word by

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Speaker 1: promoting the use of that word when it's not germane

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Speaker 1: to the conversation, have you ever considered that you may

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Speaker 1: just be perpetuating the stereotype the mass intended now. Number three,

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Speaker 1: respect where you live. Start small by not dropping trash

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Speaker 1: littering in your own communities. Number two finished school. You

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Speaker 1: want to break the cycle of poverty. Stop telling kids

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Speaker 1: are acting white because they go to school or they

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Speaker 1: speak proper English. And Number one, and probably the most important,

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Speaker 1: just because you can have a baby, it doesn't mean

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Speaker 1: you should. Okay, that was Don Lemon odd CNN in

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Speaker 1: twenty thirteen. How many of you listening to me right

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Speaker 1: now your jaw has dropped and you're thinking to yourself,

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Speaker 1: you know what, I agree with everything Don Lemon just said.

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Speaker 1: How does that happen? How do we go from what

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Speaker 1: I just played for you? From Don Lemon primetime on

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Speaker 1: CNN making an argument about personal responsibility in the black

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Speaker 1: community in particular there but remember, personal responsibility, I believe

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Speaker 1: is the key to life success period the moment that

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Speaker 1: you recognize that you yourself are responsible for all of

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Speaker 1: your life choices and no one else out there is,

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Speaker 1: and that you are not a victim, certainly not a

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Speaker 1: victim of things that happened long before you were born.

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Speaker 1: That your own individual agency will determine whether you succeed

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Speaker 1: or fail. You are the vessel of your life's voyage.

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Speaker 1: As soon as you accept that and recognize it, the

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Speaker 1: amount of success that you are capable of is extraordinary.

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Speaker 1: Whether you're white, Black, Asian or Hispanic. I've set on

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Speaker 1: this program and I'm gonna keep hammering it. Do three things,

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Speaker 1: to be tremendously successful in your life. Good for you.

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Speaker 1: Maybe you got married when you were sixteen years old

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Speaker 1: All those things are great, but we can guarantee beyond

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Speaker 1: a otto of a doubt in America today, White, Black, Asian,

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Speaker 1: what life circumstances you began with, graduate from high school,

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Speaker 1: five years old. Obviously get a job. Factors in there too.

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Speaker 1: You will have a poverty rate of zero in America.

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Speaker 1: What has happened in America in our media discourse? That

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Speaker 1: what I just played from Don Lemon about nine and

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Speaker 1: shared those exact same opinions today on CNN, he would

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Speaker 1: he could have come on and given five pieces of

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Speaker 1: advice to black Americans that would also apply to white,

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Speaker 1: be able to keep his job. What's happened? How has

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Speaker 1: our culture evolved so quickly and so perniciously as a

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Speaker 1: the middle of that you can't even recognize a clip

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Speaker 1: What's going on here now? I would submit to you,

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Speaker 1: and I'm spending a lot of time thinking about this,

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Speaker 1: that this is a function of social media to a

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Speaker 1: large extent, that we have wildly overreacted to CNN. But

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Speaker 1: Lemon nine and a half years ago that was mainstream CNN.

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Speaker 1: if Don Lemon said all of those things, which are

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Speaker 1: to discuss with us Tucker Carlson, having obtained all of

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Speaker 1: an evolution we have seen in media. How do we

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Speaker 1: We're talking about Don Lemon and what has evolved, What

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Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay, Travis Buck Sexton Show. News out

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Speaker 1: doing it. Julie Kelly, senior writer American Greatness, author of

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Speaker 1: January sixth, How Democrats use the Capitol protest to launch

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Speaker 1: people out there who may not have heard this news,

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Speaker 1: decision as it pertains to all of this so far

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Speaker 1: unreleased camera footage of January sixth. I'm very excited to

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Speaker 1: see the news, Clay, As you know, I've been covering

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Speaker 1: they took thirteen thousand pieces of evidence, only about one

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Speaker 1: take DOJ's word for which I don't. So I never

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Speaker 1: thought any indictment would be unclassified documents. I still believe

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Speaker 1: believe wholeheartedly that now special counsel Jack Smith, will indict

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Speaker 1: him on crimes related to January sixth. And if the

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Speaker 1: Proud Boys. Members of the Proud Boys, five of them

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Speaker 1: government is making Donald Trump a central peace of their case.

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Speaker 1: If any of them are convicted of seditious conspiracy, this

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Speaker 1: will build legal momentum to bring the same sort of

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Speaker 1: think the time for him on that would be, Julie.

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Speaker 1: I mean, if this Proud Boys trial will probably continue

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Speaker 1: through March, so let's say end of March there's convictions,

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Speaker 1: to do anything to Trump, they would have to do

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Speaker 1: something by August, probably right, because then it gets so

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Speaker 1: even if they're not. I think you and I both

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Speaker 1: get to August or so. I agree with you, and

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Speaker 1: which I think was also, you know, a pivot and

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Speaker 1: for other evidence. I still think some of what they

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Speaker 1: to be before late summer at the earliest, at the latest. Julie,

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Speaker 1: I've donated money because I think all these January six

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Speaker 1: what would you tell them, I would say, you know,

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Speaker 1: Patriot Freedom Project, where you donate it or not. It's

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Speaker 1: I know a lot of these families independently have give

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Speaker 1: sixth defendants, you'll be able to find them. That's a

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Speaker 1: great way to help these families whose lives are being destroyed.

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Speaker 1: They're being bankrupted, losing their businesses, their source of income,

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Speaker 1: even for low level trust passing charges. It's really tragic.

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Speaker 1: So I appreciate your support, not just on the show,

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Speaker 1: work here. We're gonna keep having you on as frequently

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Speaker 1: as we can. How can people follow you individually to

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Speaker 1: keep tabs on all this well, thank you so much

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Speaker 1: for covering my work. It's so important to help get

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Speaker 1: very frequently on Twitter. Julie underscore Kelly too. Fantastic work.

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Speaker 1: She's Julie Kelly. She is helping to make sure that

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Speaker 1: we do not forget about all these January six political prosecutions.

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Speaker 1: to make sure I talked earlier about we live in

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Speaker 1: I believe the most artificial media era of any of

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Speaker 1: danger of air raids at all in Kiev, and I

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Speaker 1: Listen to this, Okay, the air raid siren again. The

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Speaker 1: And it's not a surprise that while we have focused

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Speaker 1: of the United States are suffering, in particular the southern border,

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Speaker 1: certainly the people in East Palestine, Ohio that could use

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Speaker 1: the president's attention. Instead, Joe Biden went to Ukraine to

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Speaker 1: focus attention more on Ukrainian borders, and he is being

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Speaker 1: praised and said, this is like JFK, This is like Reagan.

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Speaker 1: This is what they're saying. This is MSNBC these Rick

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Speaker 1: Stengel comparing Biden to JFK and Reagan. I think it's historic.

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Speaker 1: It's like when JFK went to Britain in nineteen sixty three,

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Speaker 1: when Ronald Reagan went to West Berlin in nineteen eighty

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Speaker 1: seven and said, mister Guert carried down this wall. It

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Speaker 1: sent a powerful message, a powerful message to Moscow that

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Speaker 1: we are there to stay, a powerful message to our

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Speaker 1: European native allies that were there. That an American president

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Speaker 1: went into a war zone without American troops on the ground,

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Speaker 1: I think it's powerful. I think it's not powerful at all.

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Speaker 1: And the most interesting thing that he said there inadvertently

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Speaker 1: War three. We got the American President committing a hun

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Speaker 1: you're in billion dollars to Ukraine, tanks, maybe fighter jets

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Speaker 1: soon walking around in Ukraine and sending the message that

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Speaker 1: the program. If American troops were dying and there are

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Speaker 1: reports that sixty thousand Russians have died, and they were

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Speaker 1: dying because of the materials being provided by a United

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Speaker 1: States adversary, Theirs, their missiles, their bombs, would you sit

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Speaker 1: back and be like, oh, they're just providing all the missiles, bombs, tanks,

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Speaker 1: fighter jets to kill Americans with, They're not really doing it.

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Speaker 1: Or would you sit around and say, wait a minute,

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Speaker 1: they are killing Americans. We've got to do something about it.

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Speaker 1: And why would you expect Russia to do less