1 00:00:00,360 --> 00:00:06,640 Speaker 1: Content warning. This podcast discusses violence, murder, suicide, civil unrest, 2 00:00:06,640 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: aggressive policing, racism, and lynching. If you or anyone you 3 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:15,320 Speaker 1: know is considering suicide, her self harm, or just need 4 00:00:15,360 --> 00:00:20,160 Speaker 1: to talk about problems, please call the National Suicide Prevention 5 00:00:20,239 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 1: Lifeline at one hundred two seven three eight two five five, 6 00:00:25,480 --> 00:00:28,400 Speaker 1: or text the Crisis text line at seven four one 7 00:00:28,840 --> 00:00:35,160 Speaker 1: seven four one. Previously and after the uprising, on October seventeenth, 8 00:00:35,280 --> 00:00:38,360 Speaker 1: she found Dana hanging from this tree in their backyard. 9 00:00:38,640 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: I call nine one one and all I remember screaming, 10 00:00:42,600 --> 00:00:47,080 Speaker 1: is my baby delivered? Right? So you know easy, let's 11 00:00:47,080 --> 00:00:50,280 Speaker 1: take pictures. And that's why Melissa mckinnis wants St. Louis 12 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: County police to dig deeper. All signs right on the 13 00:00:53,520 --> 00:00:55,680 Speaker 1: bad point that this was a suicide. We know what 14 00:00:55,720 --> 00:00:57,480 Speaker 1: the fact of the case are, so we we never 15 00:00:57,880 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: are ever going to go out there and say, well, 16 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:04,280 Speaker 1: you know, Dania mam is wrong. Mckinne's a prominent Ferguson activists, 17 00:01:04,280 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: told me she thinks her family is being targeted. The 18 00:01:06,959 --> 00:01:10,600 Speaker 1: lead detective in the case, he was laughing. It was 19 00:01:10,640 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 1: more like we were wasting his time. Like he asked 20 00:01:14,800 --> 00:01:19,920 Speaker 1: somewhere to be, almost as if my son was Indeed, 21 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:34,280 Speaker 1: did you get the impression you knew who you were? Yes? 22 00:01:37,600 --> 00:01:41,679 Speaker 1: What you're looking at is the aftermath of the grand 23 00:01:41,720 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: jury deciding not to indict Officer Wilson. A young man 24 00:01:54,480 --> 00:01:57,360 Speaker 1: found hanging from a tree in October. His mom believes 25 00:01:57,400 --> 00:02:03,480 Speaker 1: someone murdered her son, targeting him. Danye became an activist 26 00:02:03,600 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: in the wake of the shooting death of Michael Brown 27 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:10,440 Speaker 1: by a white police officer. That's why Melissa mckinne's wants St. 28 00:02:10,440 --> 00:02:13,680 Speaker 1: Louis County police to dig deeper to her son's death. 29 00:02:14,040 --> 00:02:20,840 Speaker 1: He was not suicidal. This is after the uprising, the 30 00:02:20,880 --> 00:02:30,440 Speaker 1: death of Donye Dion Jones. It's a new era at 31 00:02:30,440 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 1: the St. Louis County Prosecutor's Office. For the first time 32 00:02:33,560 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 1: in almost thirty years, someone other than Bob McCullough is 33 00:02:37,360 --> 00:02:40,240 Speaker 1: calling the shots. Bib in your size. Rachel Mentof is 34 00:02:40,280 --> 00:02:43,080 Speaker 1: live in Clayton, where Wesley Bell took the oath of 35 00:02:43,080 --> 00:02:48,000 Speaker 1: office today on January one, right around the time our 36 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:51,840 Speaker 1: burner phone was arriving with Melissa. Wesley Bell was sworn 37 00:02:51,880 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 1: in as the first black prosecuting attorney for St. Louis County, 38 00:02:56,280 --> 00:03:00,920 Speaker 1: unseating the longtime incumbent Bob McCullough, whoa Missley refused to 39 00:03:01,000 --> 00:03:05,800 Speaker 1: indict officer Darren Wilson for killing Mike Brown Jr. It'd 40 00:03:05,800 --> 00:03:10,840 Speaker 1: after me, Hi, Hi, state your name. Wesley Bell, a 41 00:03:10,840 --> 00:03:15,600 Speaker 1: criminal justice reform advocate, experienced defense attorney, and former Ferguson 42 00:03:15,639 --> 00:03:18,600 Speaker 1: City counselor who got into politics after the Michael Brown 43 00:03:18,639 --> 00:03:22,240 Speaker 1: shooting and protests. Bell says he promises to give everyone 44 00:03:22,360 --> 00:03:26,480 Speaker 1: a fair shake. Right before Bell was sworn in, the 45 00:03:26,560 --> 00:03:30,560 Speaker 1: prosecuting attorneys and investigators and what would be his office 46 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:34,320 Speaker 1: voted to join the police union. It seemed like a 47 00:03:34,360 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 1: massive conflict of interest. Bell, having just been elected on 48 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:41,440 Speaker 1: a promise of criminal justice reform, would now have to 49 00:03:41,480 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: operate with a staff that itself was in league with 50 00:03:44,760 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: the police. If the residents of St. Louis County were 51 00:03:47,920 --> 00:03:51,240 Speaker 1: hopeful that Bell's elections signaled that a new dawn of 52 00:03:51,280 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: police accountability was on the horizon, this wasn't a good sign. 53 00:03:56,880 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 1: Everything that I do is to make sure this count 54 00:04:00,040 --> 00:04:03,000 Speaker 1: he stays safe, to make sure that everyone gets a 55 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:07,080 Speaker 1: fair shape. And as long as I hold this office 56 00:04:07,280 --> 00:04:13,360 Speaker 1: that I promise you that promise I will keep. One 57 00:04:13,400 --> 00:04:15,920 Speaker 1: of the claims that was repeated in the media about 58 00:04:16,000 --> 00:04:19,440 Speaker 1: Danye's death was that Melissa believed it could be related 59 00:04:19,480 --> 00:04:22,400 Speaker 1: to her activism in Ferguson. So we have to go 60 00:04:22,480 --> 00:04:26,479 Speaker 1: back here, back to the end of summer when Mike 61 00:04:26,480 --> 00:04:29,800 Speaker 1: Brown Jr. Was killed on Canfield Avenue in Ferguson, Missouri, 62 00:04:31,000 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: on that hot August afternoon. Residents quickly filled the streets 63 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,560 Speaker 1: in response to the killing and subsequent leaving of the 64 00:04:37,600 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 1: eighteen year old's body in the street for hours. Pockets 65 00:04:41,400 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 1: of neighbors who intended to stay out on the streets 66 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:48,360 Speaker 1: through the night, maybe through many nights, began talking. One 67 00:04:48,400 --> 00:04:51,320 Speaker 1: group of young people, full of passion and a desire 68 00:04:51,320 --> 00:04:55,080 Speaker 1: to see things change, came to calling themselves Lost Voices. 69 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,320 Speaker 1: We are we are. So this is your test, Yeah, 70 00:05:01,320 --> 00:05:04,279 Speaker 1: this is this is where I sleep. Here is Leonard 71 00:05:04,360 --> 00:05:07,839 Speaker 1: Smith showing a news crew the Lost Voices tent encamp. 72 00:05:09,160 --> 00:05:10,880 Speaker 1: And so the first night you actually didn't have a tent, 73 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:13,880 Speaker 1: would you sleep on the first night, the first night 74 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:16,560 Speaker 1: that I spent the night actually stepping a chair just 75 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:19,040 Speaker 1: kind of nodded away. It was night at the night 76 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,640 Speaker 1: at the night, not near one of us knowing who 77 00:05:22,640 --> 00:05:25,840 Speaker 1: each other was. This is Dante Carter. You heard him 78 00:05:25,880 --> 00:05:28,719 Speaker 1: in episode one talking about the news that somebody left 79 00:05:28,720 --> 00:05:31,520 Speaker 1: in their camp at the night we was coming out 80 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:35,520 Speaker 1: her protests, playing a simple We don't we never been 81 00:05:35,560 --> 00:05:39,720 Speaker 1: to protests before. But it's like everything worked, is like 82 00:05:39,800 --> 00:05:43,040 Speaker 1: some magical way, like I'll drawing us all the fans 83 00:05:43,080 --> 00:05:45,919 Speaker 1: for this one spot. Though most of the members of 84 00:05:46,040 --> 00:05:48,880 Speaker 1: Lost Voices were in their late teens and early twenties, 85 00:05:49,160 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: a few grown adults joined with them. One of them 86 00:05:52,080 --> 00:05:56,360 Speaker 1: was Melissa. I know why I became in those voices 87 00:05:56,520 --> 00:06:01,000 Speaker 1: because we were more out there. I can see they 88 00:06:01,000 --> 00:06:05,919 Speaker 1: will trouble, to be honest, I wouldn't want my children 89 00:06:05,960 --> 00:06:09,400 Speaker 1: hanging around with him, but I love their fight. I 90 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 1: saw that the amount of work that they put in, 91 00:06:14,760 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: of not going in the house, being out there night 92 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:21,599 Speaker 1: and day, having a set march, a set shut down 93 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: of the streets, sleeping, intense stuff like that. We were 94 00:06:25,400 --> 00:06:30,600 Speaker 1: more radical. One of the members of Lost Voices, Joshua Williams, 95 00:06:30,960 --> 00:06:36,560 Speaker 1: remembers the police being immediately hostile towards activists every night 96 00:06:36,560 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: he was out there day, was out there pointing guns 97 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:44,479 Speaker 1: and stuff. And he had office three steps out there, 98 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:49,120 Speaker 1: you know, calling people. Joshua's mother told him that if 99 00:06:49,160 --> 00:06:52,359 Speaker 1: he joined in the protests for Mike Brown not to 100 00:06:52,440 --> 00:06:57,599 Speaker 1: bother coming home, my amount to me going out there, 101 00:06:58,440 --> 00:07:03,960 Speaker 1: Joe it if I go ahead, they don't find to 102 00:07:04,040 --> 00:07:08,400 Speaker 1: come home. So and he stayed with me out there. 103 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:11,800 Speaker 1: So he found people in the movement to stay with, 104 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: including Melissa, who became a surrogate mother to Joshua. We 105 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:19,920 Speaker 1: thought that he was a runaway, but we just couldn't 106 00:07:19,960 --> 00:07:21,960 Speaker 1: find out where he was supposed to be because he 107 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:24,600 Speaker 1: told us so many different stories. We don't have to 108 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 1: pitch in and get them shoes and clothes and coats 109 00:07:28,080 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 1: and stuff like that. But he was he was really 110 00:07:32,480 --> 00:07:34,200 Speaker 1: into it. You can tell that his heart was in 111 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 1: in the fight. My family would tell you I've always 112 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:40,640 Speaker 1: had my door open for kids to come and stay 113 00:07:40,680 --> 00:07:43,520 Speaker 1: with me because they were all in lost voices together. 114 00:07:43,880 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: Joshua also knew Donya, so we asked Joshua to tell 115 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:52,440 Speaker 1: us about I met him, do Melissa, I can't her 116 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,040 Speaker 1: my mom. He's he's cool. Uh. He helped me to 117 00:07:57,080 --> 00:08:01,560 Speaker 1: get tho some some some night. You know. He's outgoing person, 118 00:08:02,320 --> 00:08:05,360 Speaker 1: very smart and intelligence. When you first met him. Was 119 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:08,640 Speaker 1: he out in the streets with everybody too, and he's 120 00:08:08,680 --> 00:08:10,920 Speaker 1: out there with us. He always stayed by his mound 121 00:08:10,960 --> 00:08:16,000 Speaker 1: though one night is night ver hectic night and tick 122 00:08:16,120 --> 00:08:19,760 Speaker 1: as all little places to old lady was stuck in 123 00:08:20,160 --> 00:08:24,360 Speaker 1: the vel charity and uh, he can't out of nowhere. 124 00:08:24,360 --> 00:08:28,080 Speaker 1: He pushed to d after me. After after jack Ass, 125 00:08:29,400 --> 00:08:32,720 Speaker 1: we asked Joshua what his initial reaction was to hearing 126 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:38,600 Speaker 1: that Donia had passed away. I was shocking because he 127 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:44,000 Speaker 1: he got like going for himself, you know, so I 128 00:08:44,120 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: think you've somebody else where. My initial thought was he 129 00:08:47,960 --> 00:08:52,280 Speaker 1: didn't doing you know, That's what Initia thought. And he 130 00:08:52,440 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: deal is lost Voices was the heart and soul of 131 00:09:05,440 --> 00:09:09,439 Speaker 1: the resistance. You can't talk about Ferguson without talking about 132 00:09:09,440 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: the lost voices. And that's just a real that's just real, 133 00:09:11,960 --> 00:09:15,800 Speaker 1: real talk. This is tough po Melissa's activist rapper cousin, 134 00:09:15,920 --> 00:09:18,439 Speaker 1: who we spoke with an episode one. The thing with 135 00:09:18,520 --> 00:09:21,880 Speaker 1: Melissa is she's not a St. Louis transplant. She didn't 136 00:09:21,880 --> 00:09:25,320 Speaker 1: move here from another city and all of a sudden 137 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:29,880 Speaker 1: become a political activist when you're when you're there every day, 138 00:09:30,200 --> 00:09:32,680 Speaker 1: day in and day out. You're sitting in it when 139 00:09:32,679 --> 00:09:35,440 Speaker 1: it's not a hot topic. You're sitting in it when 140 00:09:35,520 --> 00:09:38,120 Speaker 1: somebody goes to jail and it's not an explosive issue 141 00:09:38,120 --> 00:09:40,360 Speaker 1: on the internet. When you get pulled over and the 142 00:09:40,360 --> 00:09:43,000 Speaker 1: cop remembers you from yelling at him five years ago, 143 00:09:43,040 --> 00:09:44,760 Speaker 1: and somebody you were with might have spit on the cop. 144 00:09:45,080 --> 00:09:48,000 Speaker 1: You don't dodge that you don't have You're not at 145 00:09:48,000 --> 00:09:51,200 Speaker 1: the conferences drinking latte's with the people you would just 146 00:09:51,240 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: twitter beefrom with last week. You know, like you're not 147 00:09:53,760 --> 00:09:56,600 Speaker 1: on the cover of Essence but doing t actively ship. 148 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,240 Speaker 1: You're actually in the community dealing with real issue, real problems. 149 00:10:01,240 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 1: What I remember about the Lost Voices early on is 150 00:10:04,360 --> 00:10:08,480 Speaker 1: the nonprofit side of the movement knew that they couldn't 151 00:10:08,480 --> 00:10:11,480 Speaker 1: really control them. You know, like you could will somebody 152 00:10:11,480 --> 00:10:13,240 Speaker 1: else in and be like, hey, these are the talking 153 00:10:13,280 --> 00:10:15,480 Speaker 1: points in case you want to do media, you could 154 00:10:15,480 --> 00:10:18,080 Speaker 1: do this, You could do that. Lost Voices was so 155 00:10:18,200 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 1: authentic that you really couldn't get them to tap into 156 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:23,680 Speaker 1: none of that. It was just real talk, real energy, 157 00:10:24,360 --> 00:10:29,080 Speaker 1: and people who had nothing to loose. We all lost voices. 158 00:10:29,120 --> 00:10:33,959 Speaker 1: There would be no focusing movements weeks after the major 159 00:10:34,040 --> 00:10:37,360 Speaker 1: protests had died down, members of Lost Voices were still 160 00:10:37,360 --> 00:10:41,160 Speaker 1: marching and still camping out in the streets. The Lost 161 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:44,000 Speaker 1: Voices have changed location several times. Right now they're at 162 00:10:44,000 --> 00:10:46,600 Speaker 1: the back of this vacant parking lot. And what's significant 163 00:10:46,600 --> 00:10:48,760 Speaker 1: about their location is there just a few blocks from 164 00:10:48,760 --> 00:10:51,480 Speaker 1: where Mike Brown was killed, and this is the road 165 00:10:51,520 --> 00:10:55,040 Speaker 1: where thousands of protesters were marching just a few weeks ago. 166 00:10:56,480 --> 00:10:59,080 Speaker 1: Most members of Lost Voices were men, but there were 167 00:10:59,080 --> 00:11:03,040 Speaker 1: a few women, including founding member Cheyenne Green. Here she 168 00:11:03,240 --> 00:11:09,520 Speaker 1: is speaking at a rally in October. Hi, my name Cheyenne. 169 00:11:09,600 --> 00:11:12,960 Speaker 1: I'm with um the Lost Voices. We've been on ground 170 00:11:13,040 --> 00:11:17,320 Speaker 1: zero in Ferguson for sixty four days, sleeping in the streets, 171 00:11:17,640 --> 00:11:23,000 Speaker 1: keeping our presents, and I want to get this started 172 00:11:23,040 --> 00:11:28,440 Speaker 1: by channing black lives matter, Black lives matter, Black lives matter, 173 00:11:28,960 --> 00:11:36,600 Speaker 1: Black lives Matter. We spoke with Cheyenne about those days 174 00:11:36,600 --> 00:11:41,240 Speaker 1: and nights working with the Lost Voices. Whenever we uh 175 00:11:41,480 --> 00:11:44,200 Speaker 1: stayed out. On our first night, we just talked all night. 176 00:11:44,559 --> 00:11:46,640 Speaker 1: We didn't have anything to sleep on anything like that. 177 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:49,160 Speaker 1: We just talked all night about all of our ideas, 178 00:11:49,200 --> 00:11:52,160 Speaker 1: what we wanted to do. We didn't know what activism 179 00:11:52,559 --> 00:11:55,400 Speaker 1: was there anything. And as the days went along, um 180 00:11:55,520 --> 00:11:59,280 Speaker 1: people started to bring pen food every day, Um, just 181 00:11:59,640 --> 00:12:02,160 Speaker 1: every then you can think of one. In week we 182 00:12:02,280 --> 00:12:07,200 Speaker 1: occupied occupied on three different locations onwards forment. But after 183 00:12:07,240 --> 00:12:10,800 Speaker 1: the third time of our camp site being invaded by 184 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:14,480 Speaker 1: the police, everybody just had went back because their home 185 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:19,000 Speaker 1: lost voices. Activists were trying to maintain a permanent presence 186 00:12:19,040 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: on West Florison until the announcement about whether or not 187 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,640 Speaker 1: Darren Wilson would be indicted. Ferguson police were not going 188 00:12:25,679 --> 00:12:29,920 Speaker 1: to make it easy. Here's Melissa. They took up the 189 00:12:30,080 --> 00:12:33,440 Speaker 1: tents through them in the street and they said, you 190 00:12:33,520 --> 00:12:37,200 Speaker 1: better be careful. Bet, don't choose your battles win you. 191 00:12:37,200 --> 00:12:43,560 Speaker 1: You're playing a dangerous game, daily game loaded up in 192 00:12:43,640 --> 00:12:48,240 Speaker 1: trucks all of our property. Is that legal? Is that 193 00:12:48,440 --> 00:12:50,679 Speaker 1: legal for them to touch our things and put it up? 194 00:12:51,200 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 1: How can they just grab our stuff and put it 195 00:12:53,120 --> 00:12:55,560 Speaker 1: on trucks to say I'm taking it the funk is that? 196 00:12:56,200 --> 00:12:58,800 Speaker 1: Ain't nobody stupid that trying to scare him? Moufunk will 197 00:12:58,840 --> 00:13:00,880 Speaker 1: be on the street stand it, But I bet we'd 198 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:05,320 Speaker 1: still be out here This is audio from a cell 199 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 1: phone video shot by Cheyenne. In the video, the activists 200 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:12,040 Speaker 1: have about eight to ten tents in a parking lot, 201 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: and they are surrounded by city workers who are preparing 202 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:19,080 Speaker 1: to cart away all of their belongings. Police are protecting 203 00:13:19,080 --> 00:13:21,920 Speaker 1: the city workers, telling them to load them up, load 204 00:13:21,960 --> 00:13:25,080 Speaker 1: them up. Only a few Lost Voices members are present, 205 00:13:25,600 --> 00:13:28,400 Speaker 1: and there's also a small girl there, maybe five or 206 00:13:28,440 --> 00:13:31,880 Speaker 1: six years old. She's carrying a doll. Y'all gotta give 207 00:13:31,920 --> 00:13:34,000 Speaker 1: us a second. Y'all gotta expect us the grab nothing 208 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:42,600 Speaker 1: that quick. He let her go, Let her go. There 209 00:13:42,679 --> 00:13:45,600 Speaker 1: is a young woman in a red sweatshirt. Two police 210 00:13:45,640 --> 00:13:51,880 Speaker 1: officers are grabbing at her arms. Let a second young 211 00:13:51,920 --> 00:13:57,040 Speaker 1: woman abby approached the arresting officers very calmly, seemingly trying 212 00:13:57,080 --> 00:13:59,640 Speaker 1: to talk them out of arresting her friend when she 213 00:13:59,800 --> 00:14:07,680 Speaker 1: too was grabbed and arrested. Why I'm not all recording, 214 00:14:07,760 --> 00:14:10,959 Speaker 1: I have the all life the recording. A large male 215 00:14:11,000 --> 00:14:14,200 Speaker 1: officer has the small woman in a reverse headlock. He 216 00:14:14,240 --> 00:14:17,280 Speaker 1: holds her this way while another large male officer puts 217 00:14:17,280 --> 00:14:21,520 Speaker 1: her in handcuffs. She isn't offering any resistance. Look, I'm 218 00:14:21,640 --> 00:14:25,520 Speaker 1: raving a barnet at a choll post raving a barnet. 219 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,560 Speaker 1: It's okay, don't look at this, Yeah, can I take 220 00:14:29,600 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: her back? Why would yall lock her up? She ain't 221 00:14:31,640 --> 00:14:37,400 Speaker 1: doing nothing? Why? Oh my gosh. Chyenne is asking why 222 00:14:37,440 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: the second young woman, Abby was being arrested for having 223 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:44,440 Speaker 1: done nothing. When her attention shifts to the two officers 224 00:14:44,440 --> 00:14:47,119 Speaker 1: who are carrying away the woman in the red sweatshirt 225 00:14:47,760 --> 00:14:50,479 Speaker 1: by lifting her off of the ground by her handcuffed 226 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:55,440 Speaker 1: hands and her feet. She looks hog tied. Why why, 227 00:14:55,840 --> 00:14:59,160 Speaker 1: why the fund are you grabbing her life? An animals 228 00:14:59,800 --> 00:15:05,720 Speaker 1: not fucking crazy? Crazy or not a loading a tent. 229 00:15:06,040 --> 00:15:08,800 Speaker 1: You need to leave, leave now or you will be 230 00:15:08,920 --> 00:15:13,800 Speaker 1: placed under the role. Their small tent occupations were violently dismantled, 231 00:15:14,120 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: their belongings thrown into city trailers, while police arrested two 232 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:21,600 Speaker 1: young women for daring to question them. Lost voices. Members 233 00:15:21,600 --> 00:15:24,840 Speaker 1: returned to their homes, but stayed in contact and stayed active. 234 00:15:25,320 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: The local police, however, did not let up well for 235 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:34,120 Speaker 1: the Darren Wilson no indictment thing. Um, we were getting 236 00:15:34,160 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: ready for it, so we had a safety meeting was 237 00:15:37,320 --> 00:15:40,440 Speaker 1: at the church. There was this guy named Chris Schaeffer. 238 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,440 Speaker 1: He was supposed to be a live streamer. We told 239 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,960 Speaker 1: everyone there will be no live streaming, no recording of 240 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:51,800 Speaker 1: any kind, no devices, you know, for safety reasons, you know. 241 00:15:52,680 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 1: So I turned around and I see the guy Chris Schaeffer. 242 00:15:56,760 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: He asked, you know this guy before that never not 243 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: nobody's ever seen his game. So um, I turned around 244 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: and say, listen, did you not even what we just said? 245 00:16:08,920 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: He said no, I didn't hear you. I said, no livestreaming, 246 00:16:12,640 --> 00:16:17,760 Speaker 1: no recording, no recording devices at all. He said, oh, well, 247 00:16:17,800 --> 00:16:21,760 Speaker 1: all right, and so he put it down. So then 248 00:16:22,840 --> 00:16:26,000 Speaker 1: he took he took it back out, but I couldn't 249 00:16:26,000 --> 00:16:29,680 Speaker 1: see what he was doing with his phone. So I 250 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:33,080 Speaker 1: told his friend, this is your friend, tell him that 251 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:35,680 Speaker 1: he came be doing this. So she told him, So 252 00:16:35,760 --> 00:16:39,040 Speaker 1: this time I moved. I moved like five pews up. 253 00:16:40,160 --> 00:16:43,240 Speaker 1: So then like all of a sudden, I turned around 254 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:49,760 Speaker 1: and he's recording again, sitting right behind me, something like dude, 255 00:16:50,240 --> 00:16:53,240 Speaker 1: you know. And but the meeting started already, So I 256 00:16:53,280 --> 00:16:55,400 Speaker 1: stood up and I said, the phone is off the hook. 257 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: That's like cold for stopped the meeting. Someone's listening. So 258 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:04,400 Speaker 1: this other man just ran and grabbed Chris. Sha friend 259 00:17:04,600 --> 00:17:07,359 Speaker 1: picked them up and threw him in the middle of 260 00:17:07,400 --> 00:17:11,360 Speaker 1: the out. I was like, damn, I'm like, oh wait, wait, 261 00:17:11,359 --> 00:17:14,680 Speaker 1: wait wait. By the time, like the guy ran over 262 00:17:14,720 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: and they started dragging Chris out of the church. So 263 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: then finally probably like five teen minutes later, I went out. 264 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,080 Speaker 1: They was like, yeah, we got this phone. I'm taking 265 00:17:24,080 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: it to the pawn shop and all that. And I 266 00:17:26,680 --> 00:17:30,000 Speaker 1: see Chris running up the street. I said, y'all serious. 267 00:17:30,600 --> 00:17:34,119 Speaker 1: I said, so y'all think that we are here to 268 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 1: do this. He said, man, look, I'm gonna take his 269 00:17:37,680 --> 00:17:40,520 Speaker 1: phone take to the pawn shop. I said, now, you're not. 270 00:17:41,160 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: And so with my organization, they knew not to mess 271 00:17:43,720 --> 00:17:46,320 Speaker 1: with us, you know, So it's what we said. I 272 00:17:46,400 --> 00:17:48,880 Speaker 1: said now, and the guy gave the phone. We got 273 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:50,439 Speaker 1: in the car and we drove up the street to 274 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:54,600 Speaker 1: find Chris. Well, we were looking and we saw to 275 00:17:54,680 --> 00:17:58,480 Speaker 1: the right there's a waterings and we saw Heather's fan. 276 00:17:58,800 --> 00:18:02,920 Speaker 1: So we pulled up and saying, this is um your 277 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:06,720 Speaker 1: friend's phone. She said, okay, they're taking him to the hospital. 278 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:08,240 Speaker 1: I said, can you make sure you get his phone. 279 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 1: All of a sudden, I see a video with his 280 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:16,960 Speaker 1: phone the huge did I get you a mack tell 281 00:18:17,040 --> 00:18:21,639 Speaker 1: his story? Hi, this is student. I didn't go to 282 00:18:21,720 --> 00:18:25,399 Speaker 1: the father protests tonight in Ferguson, but I went to 283 00:18:25,440 --> 00:18:29,280 Speaker 1: a meeting and I did get beat up. I was 284 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:33,600 Speaker 1: not live streaming at this meeting at all. I got 285 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: hurt tonight. Somebody thought I was you know, maybe they 286 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: thought I was a cop where they thought that I 287 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,159 Speaker 1: was live streaming something that shouldn't have been live stream. 288 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:45,879 Speaker 1: I'm in the hospital right now. I'm in the emergency room. 289 00:18:46,119 --> 00:18:47,560 Speaker 1: Had to get an X ray, I had to get 290 00:18:47,720 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: um head scan. Well, it's probably live. A few days later, 291 00:18:54,520 --> 00:18:58,840 Speaker 1: two week later, I found out they had one out 292 00:18:59,040 --> 00:19:05,159 Speaker 1: for my ram and like some other people. Now the 293 00:19:05,240 --> 00:19:09,560 Speaker 1: other people actually they did with his ass, but they 294 00:19:09,600 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: just throw me in there for extra you know what 295 00:19:12,280 --> 00:19:14,640 Speaker 1: I'm saying, Like, Yeah, we can get the whole organization 296 00:19:15,040 --> 00:19:18,200 Speaker 1: and shut them down. Were the people who actually did 297 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:22,080 Speaker 1: toss him out? Are they part of your organization or 298 00:19:22,160 --> 00:19:24,000 Speaker 1: they just a few of them. But the one who 299 00:19:24,000 --> 00:19:26,440 Speaker 1: actually tossed them out, we don't know who. We didn't 300 00:19:26,480 --> 00:19:29,639 Speaker 1: know who this guy was to actually initially did it, 301 00:19:29,800 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 1: you know, And since they didn't, some of them didn't 302 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:37,879 Speaker 1: have money to fight. They were eithern facing jail time 303 00:19:38,000 --> 00:19:42,520 Speaker 1: or probation, so they picked probation. So with when that 304 00:19:42,600 --> 00:19:45,159 Speaker 1: got caught, Um, did you know you had to warn out? 305 00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:47,000 Speaker 1: I thought you knew it was out. Yeah, they told me. 306 00:19:47,040 --> 00:19:49,360 Speaker 1: It was like everybody was like, Melissa, just wait, you'll 307 00:19:49,440 --> 00:19:51,440 Speaker 1: need to be out there like that, and I was like, nah, 308 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 1: I said, if they catch me, they catch me, I'm 309 00:19:53,320 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 1: know how to do it. To pull this all back in. 310 00:19:56,440 --> 00:20:00,440 Speaker 1: Melissa was at an activist meeting when a young man, 311 00:20:00,600 --> 00:20:03,760 Speaker 1: Chris Shaefer, who was not known to most people in attendance, 312 00:20:04,119 --> 00:20:07,719 Speaker 1: was seemingly live streaming or using his phone. When everyone 313 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:11,200 Speaker 1: had been asked to keep their devices put away. Melissa 314 00:20:11,240 --> 00:20:14,120 Speaker 1: alerted the room, and a larger man who no one 315 00:20:14,119 --> 00:20:17,400 Speaker 1: in her organization knew, ran over and ripped Chris from 316 00:20:17,400 --> 00:20:21,280 Speaker 1: his seat and yanked him outside. Others followed, and Chris 317 00:20:21,320 --> 00:20:24,000 Speaker 1: was beaten up. When Melissa went outside to see what 318 00:20:24,040 --> 00:20:27,120 Speaker 1: was happening, someone had stolen Chris's phone with the intention 319 00:20:27,119 --> 00:20:31,240 Speaker 1: of selling it. Melissa told this person absolutely not, and 320 00:20:31,280 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: she was able to collect Chris's phone and find his friend, 321 00:20:34,040 --> 00:20:36,399 Speaker 1: Heather up the block, to whom she returned the phone. 322 00:20:37,200 --> 00:20:39,399 Speaker 1: Chris had his phone back that night and used it 323 00:20:39,440 --> 00:20:43,119 Speaker 1: to live stream himself from his hospital bed. Melissa was 324 00:20:43,200 --> 00:20:46,359 Speaker 1: charged with robbery for her efforts and was arrested later 325 00:20:46,640 --> 00:20:51,080 Speaker 1: at the St. Louis Donald Trump rally for her outstanding 326 00:20:51,080 --> 00:20:55,040 Speaker 1: warrant in this case. They ended up putting me on 327 00:20:55,200 --> 00:21:01,200 Speaker 1: the suicide watch. Yeah, they wouldn't give me my medication. 328 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,879 Speaker 1: No one that I have an illness. They talked to 329 00:21:05,119 --> 00:21:08,360 Speaker 1: my doctors, they said they was giving my medication and 330 00:21:08,600 --> 00:21:11,760 Speaker 1: they getting Yeah, and what were the actual charges? Like? 331 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 1: It was fell strong oarm robbery and a strong owned 332 00:21:18,240 --> 00:21:24,040 Speaker 1: robbery and assault. Several of her activist friends were also charged, 333 00:21:24,320 --> 00:21:26,720 Speaker 1: and she believes this was a way to stifle the movement. 334 00:21:27,400 --> 00:21:30,399 Speaker 1: With people taking plea deals of probation, they would be 335 00:21:30,480 --> 00:21:34,800 Speaker 1: much more hesitant to engage in street demonstrations. How did 336 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:38,320 Speaker 1: it resolve? Did you were just acquitted because it went 337 00:21:38,320 --> 00:21:40,760 Speaker 1: out for so long and they had no root, you know, 338 00:21:40,840 --> 00:21:42,520 Speaker 1: but they did have proof that I was the one 339 00:21:42,520 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 1: that gave him his phone. We wanted to know how. 340 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:49,679 Speaker 1: The St. Louis County Police came up with the five names, 341 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:53,679 Speaker 1: including Melissa's, of people whom they determined to charge with 342 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:59,120 Speaker 1: assaulting and robbing Chris Shaeffer. Did he give them those names? Unfortunately, 343 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: we haven't been able to speak with Chris himself for comment, 344 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:05,280 Speaker 1: but we did connect with one of his ex girlfriends. 345 00:22:06,800 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: He was dating a young woman at the time of 346 00:22:08,960 --> 00:22:11,439 Speaker 1: the incident at the church. She didn't want to be 347 00:22:11,520 --> 00:22:13,920 Speaker 1: named or to have her voice in our podcast, so 348 00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 1: we have to just give a brief summary of what 349 00:22:16,160 --> 00:22:20,000 Speaker 1: she told us. Chris was a student who had a 350 00:22:20,000 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: new interest in journalism. It wasn't so much an activist, 351 00:22:23,040 --> 00:22:25,520 Speaker 1: but he wanted to try his hand at reporting live 352 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:28,600 Speaker 1: from the large protests that had been rising in St. 353 00:22:28,640 --> 00:22:32,520 Speaker 1: Louis the night he got beaten up. She says he 354 00:22:32,600 --> 00:22:35,879 Speaker 1: wasn't live streaming because she was checking his feed, but 355 00:22:35,960 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 1: he was texting with her, which may have been what 356 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:42,600 Speaker 1: caused the confusion. Interestingly, she told us that when Chris 357 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:45,320 Speaker 1: got out of the hospital, the police asked him to 358 00:22:45,359 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 1: come in and to look at photographs from which to 359 00:22:48,160 --> 00:22:52,320 Speaker 1: identify his attackers. His ex girlfriend says that she went 360 00:22:52,359 --> 00:22:54,639 Speaker 1: down to the police station with him, but that he 361 00:22:54,680 --> 00:22:59,000 Speaker 1: refused to identify anybody as they passed pictures before him. 362 00:22:59,000 --> 00:23:01,639 Speaker 1: She says Chris would just say I don't remember. I 363 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:05,159 Speaker 1: don't remember. I don't remember, She says. Chris felt the 364 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:09,200 Speaker 1: incident wasn't worth ruining anyone's life over. We can't help 365 00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:12,200 Speaker 1: but wonder what photographs the police were showing to Chris, 366 00:23:12,840 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: where they come from, and why they've been selected. If 367 00:23:16,320 --> 00:23:19,040 Speaker 1: what his ex girlfriend says it is true, Chris never 368 00:23:19,080 --> 00:23:22,439 Speaker 1: pointed anyone out and didn't seem interested in cooperating with 369 00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:26,040 Speaker 1: the case, Why then did St. Louis County pursue charges 370 00:23:26,080 --> 00:23:29,760 Speaker 1: against five people, including Melissa, who spent time in jail 371 00:23:30,359 --> 00:23:34,399 Speaker 1: mysteriously on suicide Watch. No less, Melissa spent time and 372 00:23:34,480 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: money preparing to fight the charges in court and had 373 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:41,440 Speaker 1: to avoid violating the terms of her bail by further protesting. 374 00:23:43,040 --> 00:23:46,320 Speaker 1: I went to court on my trial day. It was 375 00:23:46,359 --> 00:23:55,400 Speaker 1: actually Dianee oh, and my turn came on. Oh, you see, 376 00:23:55,600 --> 00:24:00,080 Speaker 1: you're free to go. He was like drop and you 377 00:24:00,119 --> 00:24:02,159 Speaker 1: know in a video you can see my reaction and 378 00:24:03,280 --> 00:24:06,119 Speaker 1: that's when I hugg Danyane, and Danyane was like, you know, mom, 379 00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,800 Speaker 1: that's now you can fully go on with you know everything, 380 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:16,200 Speaker 1: you know. I was like this apparent attempt by St. 381 00:24:16,240 --> 00:24:20,399 Speaker 1: Louis County police to squash Melissa's activities by ensnaring her 382 00:24:20,400 --> 00:24:23,240 Speaker 1: in a court case. Threatening her with felony charges in 383 00:24:23,320 --> 00:24:26,199 Speaker 1: over a decade in jail would of course diminish what 384 00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:29,280 Speaker 1: little faith she may still have had in local law enforcement. 385 00:24:29,640 --> 00:24:33,639 Speaker 1: But at the very end of that faithful year, something 386 00:24:33,680 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: would happen to destroy that faith entirely. I popped my 387 00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 1: car some ways from where Antonio Martin was killed. So 388 00:24:44,920 --> 00:24:48,480 Speaker 1: I walked and made my way through the crowd, and 389 00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:52,200 Speaker 1: then there was a line of police. Late in the 390 00:24:52,320 --> 00:24:56,440 Speaker 1: night on December, a young black man named Antonio Martin 391 00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:59,240 Speaker 1: was shot and killed at a mobile gas station in 392 00:24:59,280 --> 00:25:02,320 Speaker 1: the St. Louis suburb of Berkeley. It didn't take long 393 00:25:02,400 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 1: for word to spread among the activist community, and Melissa 394 00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:08,240 Speaker 1: quickly joined the growing crowd at the mobile gas station 395 00:25:08,680 --> 00:25:13,280 Speaker 1: with Danja by her side. If anybody ever came close 396 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,040 Speaker 1: to and like pushing me, Danya would make sure to 397 00:25:16,080 --> 00:25:18,520 Speaker 1: pull me out the way. So acted sort of like 398 00:25:18,560 --> 00:25:22,120 Speaker 1: your personal bodyguard were out there. Yeah, he didn't talk 399 00:25:22,160 --> 00:25:24,720 Speaker 1: too much. He wanted to show to He kind of 400 00:25:24,720 --> 00:25:27,560 Speaker 1: make people think that he was like tough. You know, 401 00:25:27,960 --> 00:25:32,119 Speaker 1: something went off, it caused an explosion, and then I 402 00:25:32,200 --> 00:25:38,240 Speaker 1: remember them jumping on Cat. Paul and Bruce Cap Kennedy, 403 00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:41,520 Speaker 1: Paul Mohammed, and Bruce Franks Jr. Were all members of 404 00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:44,520 Speaker 1: a group called the Peacekeepers that formed after the police 405 00:25:44,600 --> 00:25:48,639 Speaker 1: raided the Lost Voices tent encampments. The Peacekeepers were trained 406 00:25:48,640 --> 00:25:51,720 Speaker 1: in de escalation tactics and would go to protest to 407 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:54,399 Speaker 1: stand as a buffer between the police and members of 408 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:57,639 Speaker 1: the community. They wore shirts that in large white letters 409 00:25:57,680 --> 00:26:02,240 Speaker 1: spelled out Peacekeeper. This is how Cap Kennedy remembers that night. 410 00:26:03,359 --> 00:26:06,480 Speaker 1: But on that particularly we were attacked by the police. 411 00:26:06,960 --> 00:26:09,439 Speaker 1: The cop came and attacked me. First. I was standing 412 00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:12,159 Speaker 1: in place like I didn't even do anything for the 413 00:26:12,200 --> 00:26:15,720 Speaker 1: cop to agitate. He just walked up and before you know, 414 00:26:15,840 --> 00:26:18,760 Speaker 1: he had his hands around my neck. Somebody had threw 415 00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: something as a little like a cracker ound flags banging something. 416 00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:31,679 Speaker 1: As Cap was being grabbed by an officer, a second 417 00:26:31,680 --> 00:26:34,680 Speaker 1: piece Keeper Bruce Franks reached out to hold onto Cap 418 00:26:34,960 --> 00:26:38,240 Speaker 1: and they fell over. Somehow. I was tied up with 419 00:26:38,440 --> 00:26:41,480 Speaker 1: Bruce and I could feel the community people trying to 420 00:26:41,520 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: pull me away, and the policy just fought a spraying 421 00:26:44,680 --> 00:26:54,640 Speaker 1: based everywhere. It was stomping and hitting and spraying everybody. 422 00:26:57,560 --> 00:27:00,879 Speaker 1: Once on the ground, police officers pile don Bruce and 423 00:27:00,960 --> 00:27:04,520 Speaker 1: began kicking him, striking him with batons, macing him, and 424 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: bending his fingers, all the while Bruce screamed, I'm not fighting, 425 00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:19,280 Speaker 1: I'm not fighting. Joshua Williams is close friends with Bruce 426 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:21,760 Speaker 1: Frank's and he was there that night at the mobile 427 00:27:21,840 --> 00:27:26,520 Speaker 1: station watching his police violently assaulted Bruce. He's had a 428 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:31,240 Speaker 1: buddy to me, so I was, you know, the banqueen, 429 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,359 Speaker 1: and they got crazy and don't win in over that 430 00:27:34,520 --> 00:27:37,600 Speaker 1: mat a quick chip, don't have a long with him 431 00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:44,280 Speaker 1: and um at that time they booked Glad and I've 432 00:27:44,280 --> 00:27:48,880 Speaker 1: been in there take home iron. They put it out 433 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:53,600 Speaker 1: with some type of milk. Angry at watching his friend 434 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:57,000 Speaker 1: Bruce get piled on and beaten by police, Joshua had 435 00:27:57,000 --> 00:27:59,719 Speaker 1: gone across the street to a quick Trip gas station 436 00:28:00,000 --> 00:28:02,600 Speaker 1: and started a small fire that was quickly doused and 437 00:28:02,680 --> 00:28:06,760 Speaker 1: never actually caught. Meanwhile, back at the mobile gas station, 438 00:28:13,040 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 1: This audio comes from a police body camera from that night. 439 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:20,960 Speaker 1: It was made public years later when Bruce sued the St. 440 00:28:20,960 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: Louis County Police Department, as well as a handful of 441 00:28:23,520 --> 00:28:27,960 Speaker 1: specific officers for assaulting him. At that protest. Contained within 442 00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,120 Speaker 1: the video is not just the assault, but some friendly 443 00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:35,159 Speaker 1: banter between police officers after the fact. The audio can 444 00:28:35,200 --> 00:28:38,720 Speaker 1: be hard to make out, so you have to listen closely. First, 445 00:28:39,160 --> 00:28:42,160 Speaker 1: we hear the officer whose body cam this audio came from, 446 00:28:42,200 --> 00:28:44,640 Speaker 1: telling another cop that he went through a whole can 447 00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,800 Speaker 1: of mace, and just as he says this, a woman 448 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:50,720 Speaker 1: in the crowd is complaining to another officer about him, 449 00:28:50,720 --> 00:28:53,680 Speaker 1: pointing him out, saying him right there holding the mace. 450 00:28:58,600 --> 00:29:01,280 Speaker 1: She is yelling that she caught him on filmmacing people 451 00:29:01,320 --> 00:29:05,240 Speaker 1: who were already subdued, and the bodycam wearing officer then 452 00:29:05,280 --> 00:29:08,240 Speaker 1: moves far behind the police line and tells another cop 453 00:29:08,320 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: that a white bitch caught me spraying everyone, So he's 454 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:21,040 Speaker 1: going to hide back here for a little bit, one 455 00:29:21,040 --> 00:29:23,120 Speaker 1: of the white food. It's just got me to slade 456 00:29:23,120 --> 00:29:28,640 Speaker 1: everybody here for a little bit. The bodycam wearing officer 457 00:29:28,720 --> 00:29:31,440 Speaker 1: actually goes on to complain that the gas station is 458 00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,240 Speaker 1: a bad place to be fighting people because it's too 459 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:44,480 Speaker 1: well lit. Yeah, this was a terrible place for fighting out. 460 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:48,840 Speaker 1: Then the footage cuts to the bodycam wearing officer speaking 461 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,960 Speaker 1: with another cop who asks him, did you get any 462 00:29:52,000 --> 00:29:58,120 Speaker 1: stick time, get any But who about all made? Yeah, 463 00:29:58,120 --> 00:30:04,920 Speaker 1: I went the whole cam made. The officer wearing the 464 00:30:04,960 --> 00:30:08,440 Speaker 1: body camera is Timothy Anderer. At the time of this 465 00:30:08,480 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: incident in late December, he seems to have been a 466 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,160 Speaker 1: regular patrol officer. He would be promoted to detective though 467 00:30:16,320 --> 00:30:20,120 Speaker 1: within a month, so either the department higher ups had 468 00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,400 Speaker 1: already decided to promote andrew Or to detective by December 469 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:28,480 Speaker 1: when he's on film bragging about using excessive force against protesters, 470 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:32,840 Speaker 1: and this misconduct didn't change their minds, or it was 471 00:30:32,880 --> 00:30:35,440 Speaker 1: a decision that they made after the night in question. 472 00:30:36,440 --> 00:30:39,520 Speaker 1: Either way, his promotion would seem to signal the St. 473 00:30:39,520 --> 00:30:43,000 Speaker 1: Louis County Police Department's attitude towards the public at large, 474 00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:47,040 Speaker 1: but especially the black population that had the temerity to 475 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:50,400 Speaker 1: take to the streets to call for police accountability. The 476 00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,960 Speaker 1: release of Officer Andrew's body camera footage from the Christmas 477 00:30:54,000 --> 00:30:59,600 Speaker 1: Eve protests didn't happen until November, so when Detective and 478 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:02,280 Speaker 1: Or showed up at Melissa's house with a fresh black 479 00:31:02,280 --> 00:31:05,160 Speaker 1: eye on the morning of Donna's death, she had no 480 00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:07,960 Speaker 1: idea who he was or what he'd been caught doing, 481 00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:14,360 Speaker 1: and bragging about Yeah, not to know that that officers 482 00:31:14,400 --> 00:31:17,560 Speaker 1: will be sending in my living room on ox over 483 00:31:17,680 --> 00:31:20,200 Speaker 1: set a team because if I would have known that 484 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:23,720 Speaker 1: that was him, he wouldn't be sitting in my living 485 00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:26,440 Speaker 1: I would have told them I need somebody else here. 486 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:33,560 Speaker 1: Timothy Andrewer was promoted to detective after brutalizing Bruce Frank's actions, 487 00:31:33,560 --> 00:31:36,760 Speaker 1: which Bruce sued both Andrewer and the St. Louis County 488 00:31:36,760 --> 00:31:40,960 Speaker 1: Police over On the flip side, Joshua Williams is still 489 00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:43,719 Speaker 1: in prison for his actions that night at the gas station. 490 00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: A news team had filmed the scene and turned over 491 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,160 Speaker 1: their footage to police, who were able to identify Joshua 492 00:31:50,320 --> 00:31:53,720 Speaker 1: despite having no previous police record and despite the fire 493 00:31:53,760 --> 00:31:57,680 Speaker 1: having quickly been doused before causing any damage. Joshua is 494 00:31:57,720 --> 00:32:00,800 Speaker 1: currently serving an eight year prison sent for the arson, 495 00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:05,920 Speaker 1: along with charges of burglary and stealing. How much time 496 00:32:05,960 --> 00:32:15,720 Speaker 1: did the prosecutor first ask for? You know, after josh 497 00:32:15,760 --> 00:32:18,320 Speaker 1: had came from the quick trip, he had jumped in 498 00:32:18,360 --> 00:32:22,920 Speaker 1: my back seat. He smelled like gasoline or something, you know, 499 00:32:23,400 --> 00:32:25,760 Speaker 1: and the rest of them they were trying to get 500 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,480 Speaker 1: in my car, and it was like Melissa popped the 501 00:32:28,520 --> 00:32:30,320 Speaker 1: trunk and I was like, pop the trunk for what? 502 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:35,160 Speaker 1: And he's like, we have some liquor. I said, where 503 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,320 Speaker 1: you get that from? And these were the youngs where 504 00:32:38,360 --> 00:32:41,560 Speaker 1: you get that from? And Josse I got something too. 505 00:32:42,080 --> 00:32:43,920 Speaker 1: I said, get the hell out of my car. I said, 506 00:32:43,920 --> 00:32:46,440 Speaker 1: you know better, I said, get that ship out of 507 00:32:46,440 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 1: my car. And I was yelling at them and they 508 00:32:50,200 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: had to go find another ride. But I kind of 509 00:32:52,920 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 1: wish that I got a hold to Josh that night 510 00:32:57,200 --> 00:33:00,440 Speaker 1: and talked to him. So I kind of felt that 511 00:33:03,040 --> 00:33:06,080 Speaker 1: I didn't hold on a little bit tight at him. 512 00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:12,560 Speaker 1: After that good year or two, there was no more 513 00:33:12,680 --> 00:33:16,160 Speaker 1: lassbl to do. I think together, this is Cheyenne again. 514 00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:19,719 Speaker 1: She explained that after all of the arrests and harassment 515 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:24,240 Speaker 1: from the police, members have lost voices went their separate ways, 516 00:33:24,240 --> 00:33:27,920 Speaker 1: so many did stay active. Both Cheyenne and Melissa were 517 00:33:27,920 --> 00:33:31,480 Speaker 1: among those who organized the large and impactful Jason Stockley 518 00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:37,280 Speaker 1: protests in Cheyenne. Also got involved in conventional politics, so 519 00:33:37,520 --> 00:33:41,080 Speaker 1: my accidents of my back Morris of Polity, working directing 520 00:33:41,160 --> 00:33:45,360 Speaker 1: with um Wesley Bell, who was defan convinced Bob mccaulla. 521 00:33:45,360 --> 00:33:49,080 Speaker 1: After twenty eight year starting to compcuted, and now we 522 00:33:49,200 --> 00:33:51,840 Speaker 1: have for the first time the black thing was coxecuted. 523 00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400 Speaker 1: Wesley Bell's path to County prosecutor began in the first 524 00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,640 Speaker 1: major election after the uprising, when Bell was elected to 525 00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:02,480 Speaker 1: the Ferguson City Council. The next election also saw the 526 00:34:02,600 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: beaten and maced peacekeeper Bruce Franks Jr. Win election to 527 00:34:06,280 --> 00:34:10,480 Speaker 1: the Missouri General Assembly. These political achievements, which received a 528 00:34:10,520 --> 00:34:14,399 Speaker 1: great deal of media attention, took place against a less 529 00:34:14,440 --> 00:34:18,560 Speaker 1: noticed reality, the disintegration of Lost Voices and other Ferguson 530 00:34:18,600 --> 00:34:22,960 Speaker 1: frontline groups and many activists carrying not only legal charges 531 00:34:22,960 --> 00:34:29,040 Speaker 1: and fines, but significant trauma as well. And you know, 532 00:34:29,120 --> 00:34:31,160 Speaker 1: I used to try to help a lout of those guys, 533 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 1: you know, because they were basically street dudes that beforehand 534 00:34:35,320 --> 00:34:39,160 Speaker 1: wasn't doing anything notable or worthy of news, you know, 535 00:34:39,480 --> 00:34:42,960 Speaker 1: And when this happened, they became heroes overnight because of 536 00:34:43,000 --> 00:34:47,360 Speaker 1: the embrazing. This is Jamie Dennis. He is the director 537 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,040 Speaker 1: of the Save Our Sons program at the Urban League 538 00:34:50,040 --> 00:34:53,560 Speaker 1: in St. Louis. His office is in a career center 539 00:34:53,600 --> 00:34:55,959 Speaker 1: that was constructed on the site of the Quick Trip 540 00:34:56,000 --> 00:35:00,160 Speaker 1: that was burned down in Ferguson during the uprising. We 541 00:35:00,239 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 1: asked Jamie for ten minutes of his time and he 542 00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,480 Speaker 1: gave us two hours. As he showed us around the 543 00:35:05,480 --> 00:35:08,520 Speaker 1: career center, people kept coming up to him, thanking him, 544 00:35:08,600 --> 00:35:12,239 Speaker 1: hugging him, or just saying what's up. Every person from 545 00:35:12,280 --> 00:35:15,239 Speaker 1: Lost Voices or the wider Ferguson movement that we would 546 00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:19,720 Speaker 1: ask him about he knew also he has Melissa's cousin 547 00:35:19,800 --> 00:35:24,520 Speaker 1: through marriage. We asked him about Melissa, about done, about 548 00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 1: the police, about the uprising, about everything. This was the 549 00:35:30,600 --> 00:35:35,239 Speaker 1: place that launched this national movement, right, but then a 550 00:35:35,400 --> 00:35:40,400 Speaker 1: very few set of people became prominent, national recognizable voices. 551 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: And meanwhile folks like let's say Lost Voices that were 552 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:48,799 Speaker 1: down camping the street, I feel maybe a little left behind, 553 00:35:49,040 --> 00:35:52,120 Speaker 1: feel slighter. And that's a whole different group of the 554 00:35:52,160 --> 00:35:55,239 Speaker 1: Front of Life protests that feel slighted, and they know 555 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,759 Speaker 1: you feel like Lost Boys was a significant for it 556 00:35:57,840 --> 00:36:00,560 Speaker 1: as they were. So you find all these friend groups. 557 00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:03,080 Speaker 1: Is gonna tell you these different stories from what you're hearing, 558 00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,880 Speaker 1: from what you've seen. Have the police in this county 559 00:36:07,640 --> 00:36:10,680 Speaker 1: internalized the lessons that they should have internalized hafter they 560 00:36:10,800 --> 00:36:13,840 Speaker 1: reformed yeah, I think it's think in a better direction. 561 00:36:14,040 --> 00:36:18,520 Speaker 1: They are in small, small moments. But no, you got 562 00:36:18,600 --> 00:36:22,680 Speaker 1: Kim Garland, you got Wesley Bell, who are more pro citizen, 563 00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 1: and you have the cops feeling like apprehensive because they 564 00:36:27,600 --> 00:36:31,520 Speaker 1: feel like we don't appreciate law enforcement here. Therefore, it 565 00:36:31,520 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: has an adverse effect of certain cops not being this 566 00:36:34,680 --> 00:36:37,719 Speaker 1: division when it comes to straight up and down police work. 567 00:36:38,760 --> 00:36:42,320 Speaker 1: So that's the backlash, you know, after what happened. Okay, 568 00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:46,359 Speaker 1: we can't flag you, we can't um arrest you and 569 00:36:46,480 --> 00:36:48,960 Speaker 1: beat you up, or can't hold you up in court, 570 00:36:49,000 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 1: and you know, take your license and stuff like that. 571 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: So hell, we'll let somebody shoot you. We'll wait till 572 00:36:54,719 --> 00:36:57,200 Speaker 1: the body is actually on the ground before we show up, 573 00:36:57,920 --> 00:37:00,880 Speaker 1: or you know, we'll let your house burn. So that's 574 00:37:01,040 --> 00:37:03,320 Speaker 1: interesting that you said that because one of the things 575 00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:07,319 Speaker 1: we're looking at with the death of Done, like the 576 00:37:07,400 --> 00:37:10,880 Speaker 1: morning when Saintman's County police showed up. According to Melissa 577 00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,800 Speaker 1: and her whole family, honestly, they didn't get the feeling 578 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:16,719 Speaker 1: that any of the cops were taking it terribly seriously, 579 00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:19,799 Speaker 1: and there was sort of a just a general tone 580 00:37:19,800 --> 00:37:24,080 Speaker 1: of disrespect at several levels and do you think that 581 00:37:24,120 --> 00:37:27,440 Speaker 1: has a relation to this, this whole attitude of like, 582 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,279 Speaker 1: well you didn't like the police, well now you need us, 583 00:37:30,320 --> 00:37:34,000 Speaker 1: Well too, too bad. It's backlash. Absolutely, I agree a 584 00:37:34,080 --> 00:37:36,840 Speaker 1: thousand percent that that's what's going on. But at the 585 00:37:36,880 --> 00:37:40,399 Speaker 1: same respect, with my cousin Melissa, you gotta understand that 586 00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:43,080 Speaker 1: this is such a touchy case that this put a 587 00:37:43,160 --> 00:37:46,680 Speaker 1: riff in our own family to where certain family members 588 00:37:46,680 --> 00:37:50,680 Speaker 1: don't talk to Melissa. Uh, certain family members feel like 589 00:37:50,760 --> 00:37:54,400 Speaker 1: it's more to it that she's not saying. So, you know, 590 00:37:54,719 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: I love Melissa, got big love for Melissa. I've always 591 00:37:56,960 --> 00:38:00,160 Speaker 1: been supportive. But she went into a dark sin us 592 00:38:00,200 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 1: and rightfully so, losing her child, and it became to 593 00:38:03,719 --> 00:38:07,120 Speaker 1: a point where people were abandoning her. I think the 594 00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:09,880 Speaker 1: Ferguson movement that she was a part of didn't support her, 595 00:38:11,120 --> 00:38:13,600 Speaker 1: you know, the way they could have. I see Melissa 596 00:38:13,960 --> 00:38:17,040 Speaker 1: a lot doing to Jason Stockley verdict because she was 597 00:38:17,080 --> 00:38:20,400 Speaker 1: a red form that was before dj but after that happened, 598 00:38:20,440 --> 00:38:22,080 Speaker 1: you know, and then she what do you mean she 599 00:38:22,120 --> 00:38:23,759 Speaker 1: was in red form? Can you tell me more about her? 600 00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,040 Speaker 1: Red form man volcanic dynamic, you know, fearless, lying, that 601 00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:32,080 Speaker 1: out there on the front line better than some of 602 00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:35,160 Speaker 1: these guys out here. Man, these girls to give me chills. 603 00:38:35,280 --> 00:38:37,480 Speaker 1: I'm telling you, the fergus in front line protesters was 604 00:38:37,520 --> 00:38:40,399 Speaker 1: really the girls. It was really the girls. I ain't 605 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:42,799 Speaker 1: worried about lost voice and all that stuff they were 606 00:38:42,800 --> 00:38:44,960 Speaker 1: doing that show off for the girls. You said your 607 00:38:45,000 --> 00:38:48,239 Speaker 1: family had division in it only this issue. Do you 608 00:38:48,280 --> 00:38:50,400 Speaker 1: think that's gonna remain or do you think you're with 609 00:38:50,520 --> 00:38:53,399 Speaker 1: time that will sort of settle down and you guys 610 00:38:53,400 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 1: will be able to kind of come back together. I 611 00:38:57,000 --> 00:39:00,839 Speaker 1: can't see it. I can't see Melissa getting over it, 612 00:39:01,000 --> 00:39:04,080 Speaker 1: you know, because it's so heavy. It's like, you know, 613 00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:07,799 Speaker 1: I've seen family members whole grudges for lesser things than this, 614 00:39:08,760 --> 00:39:12,640 Speaker 1: so death that usually puts permanent wages and families. Man, 615 00:39:13,040 --> 00:39:15,840 Speaker 1: especially when it's like this, where people are like, oh, 616 00:39:15,880 --> 00:39:19,000 Speaker 1: I think he might have committed suicide, or I think 617 00:39:19,120 --> 00:39:21,400 Speaker 1: that is this and you's just looking for attention because 618 00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:24,400 Speaker 1: of this, so many unsensible things have been said to 619 00:39:24,480 --> 00:39:30,560 Speaker 1: this girl. Perhaps it's easy from the outside to think 620 00:39:30,600 --> 00:39:33,879 Speaker 1: that it's paranoid not to trust the police. It leads 621 00:39:33,920 --> 00:39:36,760 Speaker 1: for people who have had the privilege of not having 622 00:39:36,760 --> 00:39:40,520 Speaker 1: to deal with the police on a regular basis. Whatever 623 00:39:40,560 --> 00:39:44,200 Speaker 1: your stance on the police as though it's undeniable, that's 624 00:39:44,200 --> 00:39:46,680 Speaker 1: standing up to them as an institution, telling them that 625 00:39:46,719 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 1: they aren't doing their jobs, writer that they need to 626 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,319 Speaker 1: face heavier consequences, and that maybe they shouldn't exist at all. 627 00:39:54,160 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: He isn't gonna make you any friends on the force. 628 00:39:57,000 --> 00:39:59,640 Speaker 1: If you had been hassled and harassed every time you 629 00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:03,799 Speaker 1: tried you engage in a constitutionally protected activity, If you 630 00:40:03,840 --> 00:40:07,320 Speaker 1: watched your friends get arrested for nothing, I'll just standing 631 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:11,160 Speaker 1: on the street. If your fellow activists were pulled over 632 00:40:11,200 --> 00:40:14,160 Speaker 1: by streams of cops who threatened them and who added 633 00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:17,439 Speaker 1: guns at them. Someone you cared for like a son 634 00:40:18,080 --> 00:40:20,279 Speaker 1: was given an eight year sentence for a crime that 635 00:40:20,400 --> 00:40:23,160 Speaker 1: hurt no one, and you yourself were charged with a 636 00:40:23,200 --> 00:40:27,320 Speaker 1: felony and faced fifteen years in prison for briefly holding 637 00:40:27,320 --> 00:40:29,880 Speaker 1: a white man's cell phone as you attempted to return 638 00:40:29,920 --> 00:40:33,000 Speaker 1: it to him, when even that man refused to name 639 00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:36,040 Speaker 1: you as a suspect. How much faith would you have 640 00:40:36,480 --> 00:40:40,040 Speaker 1: in the police. And then all of this, all of 641 00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:42,240 Speaker 1: it has to be stacked on top of a life 642 00:40:42,280 --> 00:40:46,359 Speaker 1: lived in Ferguson in North St. Louis County. How much 643 00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,920 Speaker 1: faith would you have if, after all that the detective 644 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:52,600 Speaker 1: who showed up to your house to help you figure 645 00:40:52,640 --> 00:40:55,840 Speaker 1: out what happened to your dead son was being sued 646 00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:59,800 Speaker 1: for beating and macing someone that you knew right and 647 00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:03,239 Speaker 1: for one of you. If all of this could completely 648 00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:06,400 Speaker 1: diminish a person's faith in the police, what would it 649 00:41:06,440 --> 00:41:10,239 Speaker 1: take to lose faith and another government entity, the one 650 00:41:10,320 --> 00:41:15,000 Speaker 1: tasked with determining a person's cause of death. 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