1 00:00:02,279 --> 00:00:04,760 Speaker 1: The following is a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:06,360 Speaker 1: and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. 3 00:00:08,680 --> 00:00:16,079 Speaker 2: Cowboys Let's go. Are you ready for a break? 4 00:00:16,360 --> 00:00:16,640 Speaker 3: Yes? 5 00:00:16,920 --> 00:00:18,520 Speaker 2: Are you ready for a break? 6 00:00:18,640 --> 00:00:19,320 Speaker 4: Absolutely? 7 00:00:19,480 --> 00:00:21,279 Speaker 2: Ready for a break? 8 00:00:21,520 --> 00:00:23,680 Speaker 5: Yeah, and so much for that. 9 00:00:23,840 --> 00:00:28,080 Speaker 1: It's time for The Break on Dallas Cowboys dot Com 10 00:00:29,800 --> 00:00:35,880 Speaker 1: with Mbar Garcia, Brian brought Us, Votch Lombardi, and Derek Eagleton. 11 00:00:38,320 --> 00:00:41,919 Speaker 2: It is Monday, December fifteenth, twenty twenty five, Season twenty one, 12 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:44,560 Speaker 2: episode number ninety four. Welcome to the latest edition of 13 00:00:44,960 --> 00:00:47,280 Speaker 2: The Break. We are live from the s WBC Mortgage 14 00:00:47,280 --> 00:00:50,000 Speaker 2: Studios at the Start, presented by lglg's the world's number 15 00:00:50,000 --> 00:00:52,200 Speaker 2: one OLED TV brand for eleven years in counting See 16 00:00:52,200 --> 00:00:56,120 Speaker 2: why at LG dot Com. Forward slash O led Evo 17 00:00:56,840 --> 00:01:01,360 Speaker 2: and I woke up this morning in of a real funk. 18 00:01:01,800 --> 00:01:05,360 Speaker 2: I guess that's the right way to put it. What 19 00:01:05,600 --> 00:01:07,360 Speaker 2: I was in that mood too, I was, I was 20 00:01:07,400 --> 00:01:09,360 Speaker 2: just in a mood, and then I remember it. I 21 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:10,959 Speaker 2: get to come and sit in here with you loving 22 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: folks for forty five minutes, and I got worse funk. 23 00:01:14,560 --> 00:01:15,120 Speaker 5: The way you thought. 24 00:01:15,120 --> 00:01:17,800 Speaker 2: Seriously, seriously though, I did think at least I'll get 25 00:01:17,840 --> 00:01:20,160 Speaker 2: some laughs and I will leave here feeling a little 26 00:01:20,200 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: bit lighter. 27 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,920 Speaker 3: I've questioned your career choice there, like I don't know 28 00:01:24,920 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 3: what I'm doing my life wife, wife's a lawyer. 29 00:01:27,080 --> 00:01:27,800 Speaker 6: What am I doing? 30 00:01:29,600 --> 00:01:33,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, well, hey, man, you know I work at football, 31 00:01:33,160 --> 00:01:35,560 Speaker 2: So I talk you to man, I get to everyone. 32 00:01:35,600 --> 00:01:38,319 Speaker 2: I get everyone to talk about football, so I'm not 33 00:01:38,360 --> 00:01:39,360 Speaker 2: I'm I'm living, buddy. 34 00:01:40,000 --> 00:01:40,920 Speaker 6: Yeah, I try. 35 00:01:41,640 --> 00:01:42,119 Speaker 5: It's hard. 36 00:01:42,319 --> 00:01:47,280 Speaker 6: Try to be wife mediator and you're a scout. That's yeah. 37 00:01:47,360 --> 00:01:48,440 Speaker 5: Yeah, they're changing the world. 38 00:01:50,240 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 6: We're just trying to stop something on third down, right, Man. 39 00:01:53,760 --> 00:01:56,040 Speaker 2: It was tough on yesterday. It was tough thirty four 40 00:01:56,160 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 2: twenty six to the Minnesota Vikings at home, a game 41 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 2: that I think I think we all knew. I'll say this, 42 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:05,800 Speaker 2: I'll say for me before I get to everybody else 43 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:08,919 Speaker 2: giving their stories of the game. I did expect what 44 00:02:08,960 --> 00:02:11,680 Speaker 2: I saw from the standpoint of the Cowboys offense versus 45 00:02:11,760 --> 00:02:13,880 Speaker 2: the Vikings defense. I thought you guys did a great 46 00:02:13,960 --> 00:02:16,760 Speaker 2: job breaking that down last week. There was every expectation 47 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,960 Speaker 2: this was gonna be a tough game for them offensively. 48 00:02:20,440 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: I thought they'd be a little bit better at home 49 00:02:21,800 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 2: because they've been really good at home, but I wasn't 50 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 2: surprised by what I saw the surprise one. Not even 51 00:02:27,600 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 2: the surprise. The disappointing part was what you saw from 52 00:02:30,680 --> 00:02:33,240 Speaker 2: the defense because it was more of the same in 53 00:02:33,280 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 2: a situation where you felt I could need to be 54 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,320 Speaker 2: the same. Let's go around the table. Tell me the 55 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:39,800 Speaker 2: storyline of the game for you, viotual start over. 56 00:02:39,800 --> 00:02:40,840 Speaker 5: You know, Derek Eagleson. 57 00:02:40,840 --> 00:02:43,720 Speaker 4: I'm glad you opened up in that way because you're 58 00:02:43,720 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 4: not wrong, You're totally correct. One thing I kind of 59 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:48,320 Speaker 4: want to get in this habit of and the more 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 4: people are listening to me, they'll kind of catch on 61 00:02:50,600 --> 00:02:52,000 Speaker 4: the where I'm going with a lot of this stuff 62 00:02:52,080 --> 00:02:55,320 Speaker 4: is I like to grade on curves based on the 63 00:02:55,360 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 4: opponent's power level. 64 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:57,639 Speaker 5: You understand I'm saying. 65 00:02:57,960 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 4: So, me and Brian came up here all week, man, 66 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 4: we talked about Flores his defense, and minds you it's 67 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:07,080 Speaker 4: like Houston Texans is like Eagles is like Denver. That 68 00:03:07,160 --> 00:03:09,959 Speaker 4: Flora is joint right up in there, and we kind 69 00:03:09,960 --> 00:03:12,440 Speaker 4: of told you guys what to expect if you look 70 00:03:12,480 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 4: at the Vikings defense versus other powerful offenses you respect, Eagles, Lions, Packers, 71 00:03:20,520 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 4: Ravens look weird on defense. They have an offense that 72 00:03:22,760 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 4: you can absolutely respect until yesterday, until yesterda. I don't 73 00:03:25,560 --> 00:03:29,200 Speaker 4: know what's going on yesterday, but all those teams versus 74 00:03:29,240 --> 00:03:32,040 Speaker 4: the Vikings score right up in the twenty six, twenty 75 00:03:32,080 --> 00:03:33,280 Speaker 4: seven to twenty eight range. 76 00:03:33,520 --> 00:03:34,160 Speaker 5: I don't even think. 77 00:03:34,080 --> 00:03:36,440 Speaker 4: Seattle scored when they played them, but it was you 78 00:03:36,560 --> 00:03:38,280 Speaker 4: expected that defense. 79 00:03:38,480 --> 00:03:40,800 Speaker 5: The power levels over nine thousand. 80 00:03:40,920 --> 00:03:43,400 Speaker 4: So when I look at my offense, if they put 81 00:03:43,480 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 4: up twenty five, twenty six, twenty eight points, that's to 82 00:03:46,400 --> 00:03:50,920 Speaker 4: be expected because that's what respectful offenses do versus that defense. 83 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 4: If Brandon Aubrey makes both his field goals, the offense 84 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 4: put up thirty two points on that Vikings defense. If 85 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:01,320 Speaker 4: you walked, if we said, hey, we're gonna put thirty 86 00:04:01,320 --> 00:04:04,360 Speaker 4: two points go on to Viken's defense, we feel lovely. 87 00:04:04,400 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 4: You're great on that curve, the JJ McCarthy curve, go 88 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:11,320 Speaker 4: all the way the other way. I'm not gonna lie, man, 89 00:04:11,360 --> 00:04:13,560 Speaker 4: I I was. I was kind of upset listening to 90 00:04:13,600 --> 00:04:16,600 Speaker 4: some some media people, whether it be local or national 91 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,279 Speaker 4: or whatever. They talked about this Cowboys offense for a 92 00:04:19,360 --> 00:04:22,040 Speaker 4: long time. I think the Cowboys offense did his job. 93 00:04:22,720 --> 00:04:25,280 Speaker 4: You can't let JJ McCarthy do what he did to 94 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,000 Speaker 4: you yesterday. If Jared GoF does that to you, Jordan 95 00:04:29,080 --> 00:04:31,520 Speaker 4: Love does that to you, I'll even take Jayleen Hurston 96 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:33,960 Speaker 4: his company doing that to you. I can live with 97 00:04:34,040 --> 00:04:38,440 Speaker 4: them dudes doing that to you. JJ McCarthy, by the numbers, 98 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,240 Speaker 4: is the worst quarterback on his team. Carson Wentz numbers 99 00:04:42,240 --> 00:04:46,279 Speaker 4: better than you, and that man march right up in there, 100 00:04:47,040 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 4: and he made it look weird for you. McCarthy did. 101 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:53,600 Speaker 4: JJ McCarthy did so. Man, it's it's it's inexcusable. I 102 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,400 Speaker 4: don't want to hear this excuse. Well, Flus doesn't flus 103 00:04:57,480 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 4: right back at your brother. 104 00:04:58,640 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 5: I want to hear. 105 00:04:59,240 --> 00:05:01,720 Speaker 4: Oh, he doesn't have the talent to do his job. 106 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:05,280 Speaker 4: If you look at what Flores was doing, he squeezes 107 00:05:05,440 --> 00:05:08,800 Speaker 4: every amount of talent out of his guys. Ever, Andrew 108 00:05:08,880 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 4: van ginkl ain't no world beating like that, but he 109 00:05:11,440 --> 00:05:13,760 Speaker 4: was able to do some stuff with you. Brian, you 110 00:05:14,080 --> 00:05:15,800 Speaker 4: might have the number, but what's the number for the 111 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:17,839 Speaker 4: for the blizters that were not accounted for? 112 00:05:18,160 --> 00:05:21,279 Speaker 3: Just the extra blitz I don't keep that. You're right though, 113 00:05:21,360 --> 00:05:21,760 Speaker 3: I mean. 114 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,520 Speaker 4: It was always a fifth or sixth or seventh guy. 115 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,800 Speaker 4: But the part that's most frustrating to me, and I'm 116 00:05:26,800 --> 00:05:27,599 Speaker 4: gonna let y'all talk. 117 00:05:27,640 --> 00:05:28,120 Speaker 5: I promise. 118 00:05:29,080 --> 00:05:30,919 Speaker 4: Second week in a row, third and fourth of you 119 00:05:31,000 --> 00:05:34,520 Speaker 4: really counted your fluse You look real good them first three, 120 00:05:34,600 --> 00:05:38,320 Speaker 4: quarter them, the first three uh drives. Brother, you're stacking 121 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:41,400 Speaker 4: the box. You're creating one on ones. You made a 122 00:05:41,400 --> 00:05:45,400 Speaker 4: big play blitzing Donovan Wilson. Quinn gets an interception. Your 123 00:05:45,400 --> 00:05:48,800 Speaker 4: blitz overshown. Now a couple of weeks ago, it was Marits. 124 00:05:48,839 --> 00:05:51,240 Speaker 4: It was blitzing Marrits. You get pressure with those guys 125 00:05:51,839 --> 00:05:56,520 Speaker 4: and for whatever reason, you go away from it. I 126 00:05:56,560 --> 00:05:58,240 Speaker 4: don't want to say nothing else because the chack gonna 127 00:05:58,240 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 4: be like I's talking all day. But it's it's frustrating 128 00:06:02,000 --> 00:06:04,200 Speaker 4: when you make a little bit of progress in this 129 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:07,120 Speaker 4: defense and you go right back to doing the same 130 00:06:07,160 --> 00:06:09,440 Speaker 4: stuff you was doing the week four, Week five, and 131 00:06:09,440 --> 00:06:12,240 Speaker 4: week six. This's a totally different defense talent wise than 132 00:06:12,279 --> 00:06:15,159 Speaker 4: you had week six. You got better dudes on this 133 00:06:15,279 --> 00:06:18,280 Speaker 4: defense than you had in week six. But somehow, no 134 00:06:18,279 --> 00:06:21,719 Speaker 4: matter who you plan against, it could be Jordan Love, 135 00:06:21,800 --> 00:06:23,839 Speaker 4: it could be Jared GoF, it could be damn JJ 136 00:06:23,960 --> 00:06:29,320 Speaker 4: McCarthy or Russell Wilson Cowboys defense where dreams come true. 137 00:06:29,600 --> 00:06:32,080 Speaker 4: And I think you wasted a really good Dak Prescott year, 138 00:06:32,279 --> 00:06:35,080 Speaker 4: and you wasted a really good rookie campaign for Shotenheimer 139 00:06:35,120 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: because of your defense. 140 00:06:37,279 --> 00:06:39,440 Speaker 7: And you don't even know if you're gonna get pickings back, 141 00:06:39,600 --> 00:06:42,599 Speaker 7: so you kind of losing that duel right there, that 142 00:06:42,640 --> 00:06:47,640 Speaker 7: wide receiver duel. You see what's frustrating to me is 143 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,360 Speaker 7: I don't like having the same conversation or talking about 144 00:06:50,400 --> 00:06:53,160 Speaker 7: the same issue that we were talking about from the 145 00:06:53,160 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 7: beginning of the season towards the end of the season, 146 00:06:56,600 --> 00:06:58,680 Speaker 7: Like there's no reason we should be having the same 147 00:06:58,720 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 7: conversation for three months straight. Yes, there were changes made 148 00:07:03,240 --> 00:07:05,960 Speaker 7: after the bye week. You added some talent, and I 149 00:07:06,040 --> 00:07:08,719 Speaker 7: give the Cowboys credit for that because they brought in 150 00:07:08,760 --> 00:07:13,200 Speaker 7: two players and you were able to see improvement there. 151 00:07:13,240 --> 00:07:16,800 Speaker 7: They played those and won three games in a row. 152 00:07:16,960 --> 00:07:21,200 Speaker 7: You were picking up some momentum, some energy. You saw 153 00:07:21,240 --> 00:07:25,560 Speaker 7: the physicality of the team. And then all of a sudden, 154 00:07:25,840 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 7: now we go back to seeing what we're what we've 155 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,120 Speaker 7: been complaining about throughout the season. I saw it coming 156 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,280 Speaker 7: here on the on the chat in the chat saying, oh, 157 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,720 Speaker 7: bad players. I refuse to believe that completely because I'm 158 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:43,920 Speaker 7: not blind, Like, yeah, you can still, let's say, have 159 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:47,680 Speaker 7: a bad performance overall, still lose a game, but you 160 00:07:47,680 --> 00:07:51,720 Speaker 7: should still see a team that can compete two a 161 00:07:51,800 --> 00:07:55,800 Speaker 7: similar level as the offense and make some stops. So 162 00:07:56,880 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 7: you can't tell me Darn Bland is a terrible player. 163 00:08:01,080 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 7: He's having a terrible season right now, but I've seen 164 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:08,440 Speaker 7: him be so good. So there's no way that you're 165 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 7: gonna tell me like all of a sudden, he just 166 00:08:11,320 --> 00:08:15,800 Speaker 7: a bad player. He's coming back from that injury. Then yeah, 167 00:08:15,800 --> 00:08:17,960 Speaker 7: you can go down the list of other players. 168 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 6: Uh. 169 00:08:19,240 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 7: And and that's the problem. I think it goes back 170 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:29,320 Speaker 7: to that voice that's leading that group. And also it's 171 00:08:29,360 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 7: not just Eberflus. You go back and you have to 172 00:08:33,080 --> 00:08:37,200 Speaker 7: start talking about position coaches as well, and and and 173 00:08:37,360 --> 00:08:40,280 Speaker 7: look at what the issues that are happening there. So 174 00:08:41,360 --> 00:08:46,960 Speaker 7: it's just it's very unfortunate that we're sitting here discussing 175 00:08:47,360 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 7: this and what we're seeing in the secondary. That's a 176 00:08:51,600 --> 00:08:53,880 Speaker 7: whole nother story. I'm sure we'll get to it at 177 00:08:53,920 --> 00:08:56,080 Speaker 7: some point and then take a deep dive on what's 178 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:59,000 Speaker 7: going on there, But you literally don't have a leader 179 00:08:59,280 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 7: in that second and Derry and this is something that 180 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,920 Speaker 7: wasn't new you've seen this to begin with. I don't 181 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 7: know what the heck is happening with Trevon Diggs and 182 00:09:09,240 --> 00:09:11,640 Speaker 7: what kind of mysteriousness is going on. 183 00:09:11,720 --> 00:09:13,640 Speaker 2: We heard some problements show on that. 184 00:09:14,040 --> 00:09:20,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, interesting situation there for sure, and we'll discuss later. 185 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:24,880 Speaker 7: But uh, just very unfortunate that this was kind of 186 00:09:25,760 --> 00:09:26,160 Speaker 7: the end. 187 00:09:26,160 --> 00:09:26,319 Speaker 8: Then. 188 00:09:26,400 --> 00:09:28,679 Speaker 7: Yeah, the Cowboys are still not out, but. 189 00:09:29,080 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: We we think they got chance this. 190 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:35,600 Speaker 7: Yeah, one percent, but we can predict the future, I 191 00:09:35,600 --> 00:09:36,480 Speaker 7: guess at this point. 192 00:09:37,440 --> 00:09:40,320 Speaker 3: Yeah, I think trying to help you here, brother Roch, 193 00:09:41,400 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 3: I think I can't get you the unblocked guys. But 194 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:46,559 Speaker 3: we talked about the unblocked guys. We're going to be 195 00:09:46,559 --> 00:09:49,760 Speaker 3: a problem because the way they free up seven rushers 196 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 3: were three for three and drop backs and pressures that 197 00:09:52,320 --> 00:09:55,319 Speaker 3: was one hundred percent. When they rushed six, they were 198 00:09:55,360 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 3: five for five on pressures. When they rushed five, they 199 00:10:00,200 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 3: actually on ten of those dropbacks they had sixty percent pressure. 200 00:10:04,679 --> 00:10:07,360 Speaker 3: So you kind of went from when the numbers went 201 00:10:07,360 --> 00:10:10,240 Speaker 3: from seven to six to five, they still went one hundred, 202 00:10:10,240 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 3: one hundred and sixty. So they were they were freeing. 203 00:10:13,080 --> 00:10:14,600 Speaker 2: Up and basically and they want to dial it up, 204 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:15,720 Speaker 2: they knew how to dial it up. 205 00:10:15,960 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 3: On the on the flip side of that thing. If 206 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:19,559 Speaker 3: you want to just look at Dallas and again, I'm 207 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:21,520 Speaker 3: just giving the numbers here and I'll give you my opinion. 208 00:10:22,440 --> 00:10:26,240 Speaker 3: When you rushed, when you rushed five, he did six 209 00:10:26,320 --> 00:10:29,240 Speaker 3: times there were two pressures. That's about a thirty three 210 00:10:29,280 --> 00:10:33,880 Speaker 3: percent rate for a pressure rate when you rushed four. 211 00:10:33,960 --> 00:10:37,080 Speaker 3: That was on nineteen of his dropbacks. That was would 212 00:10:37,160 --> 00:10:39,480 Speaker 3: consider seventy percent of his drop backs. You only had 213 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:42,920 Speaker 3: a fifteen percent pressure rate there. 214 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:47,000 Speaker 2: So did they ever get to six or seven men? 215 00:10:47,120 --> 00:10:49,720 Speaker 3: No, they went they was the most they went. They 216 00:10:49,760 --> 00:10:53,480 Speaker 3: went nine one rush and that's probably a goal line situation, 217 00:10:53,640 --> 00:10:54,000 Speaker 3: is what that? 218 00:10:54,240 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 5: Oh? 219 00:10:54,400 --> 00:10:56,160 Speaker 2: That that might have been the one woe Macarthy just 220 00:10:56,440 --> 00:10:58,520 Speaker 2: runs out by himself and nobody accounts for him. 221 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:02,760 Speaker 3: But they went five war and three with the pressure 222 00:11:02,840 --> 00:11:04,520 Speaker 3: with the pass rush and. 223 00:11:04,520 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 2: The three was another inexplicit, inexplicable in my opinion, forth 224 00:11:08,160 --> 00:11:11,000 Speaker 2: and three where you only rush three and that then 225 00:11:11,040 --> 00:11:13,160 Speaker 2: that third guy, Sam Williams look like he even peeled 226 00:11:13,160 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: off to drop it, pressure it. 227 00:11:17,480 --> 00:11:19,960 Speaker 3: This is the observation you have when you watch the 228 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:22,400 Speaker 3: game is that you look at this and it's really 229 00:11:22,400 --> 00:11:27,920 Speaker 3: hard to create pressure when Donovan Ezeraku is dropping, when 230 00:11:27,960 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 3: Fowler's dropping, when Sam Williams is dropping, when Clowny's dropping. 231 00:11:33,280 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 3: You know, it's really really difficult. 232 00:11:34,960 --> 00:11:35,800 Speaker 6: You know, if if. 233 00:11:35,679 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 3: That's if that's what your scheme is, and we saw 234 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,120 Speaker 3: it on the flip side of this, though, what the 235 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:44,040 Speaker 3: Vikings do when they drop players, they have pressure players 236 00:11:44,040 --> 00:11:47,920 Speaker 3: that can get home. That's that's a really really big difference. Dallas. 237 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:52,200 Speaker 3: Dallas struggled with you know, offensively to score as many 238 00:11:52,240 --> 00:11:56,400 Speaker 3: points as they did. It's it's a credit to Dak 239 00:11:56,480 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 3: and some others for having to fight through that because 240 00:11:59,360 --> 00:12:01,600 Speaker 3: they were in a really bad situation. There was a 241 00:12:01,640 --> 00:12:04,240 Speaker 3: lot of free rushers in this game. As Fodge told you, 242 00:12:04,520 --> 00:12:06,400 Speaker 3: there were a lot of times though where you know, 243 00:12:06,440 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 3: they took advantage of some of your guys once you know, 244 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: once I Dentity went in the game, that was that 245 00:12:13,600 --> 00:12:16,400 Speaker 3: was like a turnstyle over there, and you know, unfortunately 246 00:12:16,400 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 3: for him, he got put in a situation. Now you're 247 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:23,240 Speaker 3: on your third basically left tackle against a team that 248 00:12:23,360 --> 00:12:27,839 Speaker 3: gives you multiple looks, multiple blitz packages, very coordinated. You 249 00:12:28,160 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 3: saw last night with your own eyes. 250 00:12:30,240 --> 00:12:30,440 Speaker 6: Watch. 251 00:12:30,800 --> 00:12:33,600 Speaker 3: We're trying to tell you this a very coordinated blitz 252 00:12:33,679 --> 00:12:37,000 Speaker 3: package and guys are not out of place. When it 253 00:12:37,040 --> 00:12:39,280 Speaker 3: looked like it was going to be a screen to 254 00:12:39,400 --> 00:12:42,680 Speaker 3: Hunter Lipkey, what happens? They bring pressure, But what's Hunter 255 00:12:42,720 --> 00:12:45,600 Speaker 3: Smith doing. He's standing right there waiting for Hunter Lipkey 256 00:12:45,640 --> 00:12:47,920 Speaker 3: to get the ball on a screen when you're thinking 257 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 3: they're in man coverage and they're bringing pressure. But what 258 00:12:50,600 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 3: does he do? He takes away your crossers. He takes 259 00:12:53,800 --> 00:12:57,560 Speaker 3: away your your your intermediate routes, the deep crossing routes 260 00:12:57,600 --> 00:13:00,280 Speaker 3: you have there. So they had you they had your 261 00:13:00,320 --> 00:13:02,960 Speaker 3: game plan pretty well. I mean they they had to 262 00:13:03,000 --> 00:13:05,960 Speaker 3: feel like though that that they were going to clearly, 263 00:13:06,320 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 3: you know, Dallas did the best they could to try 264 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 3: and put guys up there, you know, backs near the 265 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:13,960 Speaker 3: line of scrimmage. But also that you had some breakdowns. 266 00:13:14,040 --> 00:13:16,920 Speaker 3: You know, Booker had a breakdown. We talked about the 267 00:13:17,600 --> 00:13:20,280 Speaker 3: Tyler Smith got, you know, he had a breakdown, bab 268 00:13:20,440 --> 00:13:22,800 Speaker 3: had a breakdown. There's that's what this team will do. 269 00:13:22,880 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 3: They create a lot of pressure, but on the flip 270 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,600 Speaker 3: side of that again, your team creates no pressure against 271 00:13:29,600 --> 00:13:33,400 Speaker 3: a quarterback that most teams were playing against. The Vikings 272 00:13:33,440 --> 00:13:36,600 Speaker 3: were able to affect him and make him have to 273 00:13:36,679 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 3: hurry his throws. He looked as comfortable as he's looked 274 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 3: all year. And trust me, watch and I watched all 275 00:13:41,840 --> 00:13:44,520 Speaker 3: that tape. We've seen all its throws. That was That 276 00:13:44,640 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: was a that was a gift last night from the Cowboys. 277 00:13:47,320 --> 00:13:48,719 Speaker 2: All right, we're going to take our first break. We're 278 00:13:48,720 --> 00:13:50,400 Speaker 2: going to come back. 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All right, 345 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:59,040 Speaker 2: let's talk about the offense yesterday as this game began, Yeah, 346 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,520 Speaker 2: keep my one, put half phones, heafones, you're here. You 347 00:17:02,520 --> 00:17:05,080 Speaker 2: so in the At the earlier parts of the game, 348 00:17:05,119 --> 00:17:07,600 Speaker 2: the offense actually scored touchdowns on two of their first 349 00:17:07,600 --> 00:17:10,120 Speaker 2: three possessions. I actually felt like at that point, after 350 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:11,679 Speaker 2: they scored the second touchdown, I was like, Okay, this 351 00:17:11,720 --> 00:17:13,040 Speaker 2: is gonna be one of those games the offense is 352 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:14,480 Speaker 2: going to do some things, like they can do some 353 00:17:14,520 --> 00:17:17,680 Speaker 2: things against this defense. They will be fine. After that, 354 00:17:18,280 --> 00:17:20,800 Speaker 2: they only scored field goals and they missed two field 355 00:17:20,800 --> 00:17:24,160 Speaker 2: goals on top of that? What changed? What was there 356 00:17:24,240 --> 00:17:27,240 Speaker 2: something that that was different about how the defense attacked him. 357 00:17:27,240 --> 00:17:29,920 Speaker 2: Did their offense all of a sudden start not being 358 00:17:29,960 --> 00:17:32,320 Speaker 2: able to pick up those exotic blitzes? What was the 359 00:17:32,359 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 2: difference after that second touchdown to whether the Cowboys didn't 360 00:17:35,720 --> 00:17:36,600 Speaker 2: get an end z on again. 361 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:40,000 Speaker 4: I think you're running back getting hurt probably had a 362 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 4: lot to do with it. 363 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:42,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, By the way, he had a good day yesterday, 364 00:17:42,560 --> 00:17:44,280 Speaker 2: fantastic little day. 365 00:17:44,000 --> 00:17:47,440 Speaker 5: And we and we talked about game flow. Getting hurt sure, 366 00:17:47,560 --> 00:17:48,040 Speaker 5: lik too. 367 00:17:48,320 --> 00:17:50,879 Speaker 4: We talked about game flow all the time. And the 368 00:17:50,880 --> 00:17:52,879 Speaker 4: Cowboys are at their best when they can run the 369 00:17:52,880 --> 00:17:54,720 Speaker 4: ball where they want to throw, when they want to 370 00:17:54,760 --> 00:17:58,800 Speaker 4: play action it up and when Williams goes out shout 371 00:17:58,840 --> 00:18:00,720 Speaker 4: out of mileak Man, he's just not the same kind 372 00:18:00,720 --> 00:18:03,520 Speaker 4: of threat, and he's not the same kind of blocker, 373 00:18:03,640 --> 00:18:06,000 Speaker 4: like you know, he's a he's a different dude. So 374 00:18:06,040 --> 00:18:08,439 Speaker 4: the offense kind of stalled a little bit in that way. Uh, 375 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:12,040 Speaker 4: Javonte getting hurt, I'll say, Nate kind of getting hurt, 376 00:18:12,040 --> 00:18:13,639 Speaker 4: you know, but you know, just just the line in 377 00:18:14,000 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 4: general gave you issues and uh, Lippy getting hurt, you know, 378 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,480 Speaker 4: now Williams came back and you saw some more run game. 379 00:18:19,560 --> 00:18:22,080 Speaker 4: But you know, when you wanted to run the ball, 380 00:18:22,119 --> 00:18:24,479 Speaker 4: you could run the football. So that's just a large 381 00:18:24,520 --> 00:18:26,480 Speaker 4: portion of the game that you just weren't able to 382 00:18:26,560 --> 00:18:29,000 Speaker 4: run the football like you wanted to. I think they 383 00:18:29,040 --> 00:18:30,199 Speaker 4: probably had a lot to do with it, but I 384 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:31,199 Speaker 4: won't talk too long about it. 385 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:33,280 Speaker 3: I think a lot of it had to do with 386 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:35,880 Speaker 3: what they were able to do on third down. 387 00:18:35,960 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 5: For sure. 388 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 3: I think that was they had a really good idea. 389 00:18:39,720 --> 00:18:41,560 Speaker 3: As I was mentioned, they had a good idea about 390 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:45,440 Speaker 3: your crossers. They had a good idea about your slant game. 391 00:18:45,960 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 3: They had a good idea about. 392 00:18:48,480 --> 00:18:50,440 Speaker 5: You know, tight ends. 393 00:18:50,480 --> 00:18:53,800 Speaker 3: Yeah, they were they They really did a good job 394 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:57,920 Speaker 3: of scouting you to the point of taking away some things. Uh, 395 00:18:57,960 --> 00:19:00,520 Speaker 3: you know, Vouch will tell I'm sure and we talked 396 00:19:00,520 --> 00:19:02,520 Speaker 3: about this too, that the cover two. Look how it 397 00:19:02,600 --> 00:19:05,040 Speaker 3: kind of it took them out of some Even though 398 00:19:05,040 --> 00:19:08,440 Speaker 3: they're blitzing and giving you pressure and all that, they're 399 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 3: able to play coverage behind it. You know, they're able 400 00:19:11,000 --> 00:19:13,600 Speaker 3: to kind of protect their guys. They try and funnel things, 401 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:15,879 Speaker 3: you know, to the inside. They don't let you have 402 00:19:15,920 --> 00:19:18,159 Speaker 3: anything down the field. I mean, I can't remember the 403 00:19:18,200 --> 00:19:20,159 Speaker 3: last time we've had a down the field ball to 404 00:19:20,200 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: George Pickens. And that's a little unshoddy right there. I 405 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:25,560 Speaker 3: think last night in the post game even talked about 406 00:19:25,560 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 3: that of you know, how many times have we seen 407 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,120 Speaker 3: a you need a big play, run that vertical thing 408 00:19:32,160 --> 00:19:34,200 Speaker 3: to George Pickens and see if somebody can get over. 409 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:37,000 Speaker 3: You had a whole shot that Ceedee Lamb made, you know, 410 00:19:37,000 --> 00:19:39,040 Speaker 3: I think it was a thirty forty yard game that 411 00:19:39,320 --> 00:19:40,440 Speaker 3: was between Cover two. 412 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 6: Didn't have enough of that. And I just the way 413 00:19:44,000 --> 00:19:44,480 Speaker 6: that they. 414 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:46,960 Speaker 3: Play their Cover two, they play their Cover three the 415 00:19:47,080 --> 00:19:49,439 Speaker 3: cover zero with no safety help in the middle. 416 00:19:49,640 --> 00:19:50,800 Speaker 2: I mean they did that a lot. 417 00:19:51,320 --> 00:19:53,720 Speaker 3: They do that a lot. Yeah, and so they give 418 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:55,840 Speaker 3: you a lot of different looks. This was a real 419 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 3: challenge for Dak in this game. It was a real 420 00:19:58,119 --> 00:20:01,000 Speaker 3: challenge for the offensive line. It was a real challenge 421 00:20:01,000 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 3: for the backs to have to kind of do all that. 422 00:20:03,720 --> 00:20:08,000 Speaker 3: I think that's what their their looks, stuff that you 423 00:20:08,080 --> 00:20:12,919 Speaker 3: probably I'm not saying, haven't seen, but seeing it over 424 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,679 Speaker 3: and over and then another look over and over. And 425 00:20:15,720 --> 00:20:18,200 Speaker 3: they were they were hunting things and once they found 426 00:20:18,240 --> 00:20:19,440 Speaker 3: something that you couldn't do. 427 00:20:20,080 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 5: You know. 428 00:20:20,400 --> 00:20:22,479 Speaker 3: Once they found that, you know, you were gonna let 429 00:20:22,520 --> 00:20:25,240 Speaker 3: the furthest guy go from the ball free and run 430 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,119 Speaker 3: on Dak they played their coverage a little tighter and 431 00:20:28,119 --> 00:20:30,240 Speaker 3: then the ball wasn't as accurate and he got hit 432 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:33,080 Speaker 3: a couple of times from a free rusher just because 433 00:20:33,160 --> 00:20:36,760 Speaker 3: Dallas slid the line away. But Minnesota knew like, Okay, 434 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:38,600 Speaker 3: if you're gonna slide the line away, we're gonna bring 435 00:20:38,640 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: Harrison Smith down there and he's going to cause some 436 00:20:40,680 --> 00:20:43,600 Speaker 3: problems and and and that's what they did. And it 437 00:20:43,680 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 3: was a it was a really really good game plan 438 00:20:45,720 --> 00:20:46,640 Speaker 3: for them. 439 00:20:47,040 --> 00:20:50,159 Speaker 7: I was laughing in my head earlier when Derek you 440 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:52,080 Speaker 7: post a question or you were painting the picture of 441 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,000 Speaker 7: thinking this is how it was going to turn out 442 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 7: with this offense. But take it a step for like 443 00:20:57,240 --> 00:21:01,000 Speaker 7: back when the defense got that intercept, I'm like, oh, 444 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:03,240 Speaker 7: it's gonna be that game. It's gonna be that kind 445 00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,000 Speaker 7: again the game for the defense and for the team, 446 00:21:06,080 --> 00:21:11,359 Speaker 7: and then it didn't happen with the offense. I wanted 447 00:21:11,359 --> 00:21:13,840 Speaker 7: to ask you, guys, what is your level of concern 448 00:21:14,680 --> 00:21:17,399 Speaker 7: with the offensive line at this point, because throughout the 449 00:21:17,440 --> 00:21:21,600 Speaker 7: season we've seen it here and there, but then I 450 00:21:21,640 --> 00:21:27,879 Speaker 7: think it's been slightly masked by dax ability at times. Yeah, 451 00:21:28,080 --> 00:21:31,080 Speaker 7: but then when you really peel everything back and look 452 00:21:31,119 --> 00:21:33,600 Speaker 7: at it, you're like, okay, wait a minute. Like, personally, 453 00:21:33,640 --> 00:21:36,600 Speaker 7: I've always thought it's gonna be okay. The defense, the 454 00:21:36,760 --> 00:21:40,040 Speaker 7: offensive line once they played together longer, they're gonna figure 455 00:21:40,040 --> 00:21:42,560 Speaker 7: it out and be okay. But how are you feeling 456 00:21:42,560 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 7: at this point with that line. 457 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,159 Speaker 2: Here's an interesting thing. As you asked that question, I 458 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,199 Speaker 2: started thinking about and I was like, you know, I 459 00:21:50,240 --> 00:21:53,159 Speaker 2: don't know if I don't remember the last time I 460 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 2: felt such the poler opposites about the interior part of 461 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:03,639 Speaker 2: the offensive line than the exterior part of the offensive line. 462 00:22:03,960 --> 00:22:05,639 Speaker 2: Right now, I look at the interior part of the 463 00:22:05,640 --> 00:22:07,280 Speaker 2: offense line, and yes day when they were running the ball, 464 00:22:07,320 --> 00:22:09,479 Speaker 2: I was like, you could just line up and basically 465 00:22:09,560 --> 00:22:11,800 Speaker 2: run behind those three middle guys as much as you like, 466 00:22:11,880 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 2: as much as you want to, and it's going to 467 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:16,680 Speaker 2: be there. You could do this all day, right Yeah. Yeah, 468 00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:20,440 Speaker 2: But but the flip side to that is that outside 469 00:22:20,520 --> 00:22:24,000 Speaker 2: those two tackles that that has been a problem, it 470 00:22:24,080 --> 00:22:26,880 Speaker 2: seems to continue to be a problem, and so when 471 00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,840 Speaker 2: you look at it, you're like, man, love what's happening. 472 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:31,040 Speaker 5: By the way, the interior, those are young guys. 473 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,879 Speaker 2: So I'm looking at them saying, man, cowboys are set 474 00:22:33,960 --> 00:22:36,720 Speaker 2: like in the middle, they're set on the outside. I 475 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,639 Speaker 2: feel like, do you have to I'm asking the question, like, 476 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,800 Speaker 2: do you have to go back to the well on 477 00:22:41,920 --> 00:22:44,439 Speaker 2: trying to get tackles? Is guyton going to first of all, 478 00:22:44,640 --> 00:22:47,200 Speaker 2: is going to be available? And then second of all, 479 00:22:47,359 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 2: is he going to develop to the point where he's 480 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,479 Speaker 2: reliable at left tackle at right tackle? 481 00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:52,600 Speaker 6: Are you do you really. 482 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:55,159 Speaker 2: Just need to do something different because it's not like 483 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,160 Speaker 2: he's a young guy that's still developing and getting better, 484 00:22:58,320 --> 00:22:59,960 Speaker 2: Like he is kind of what he is at this point. 485 00:23:00,040 --> 00:23:02,320 Speaker 2: Can you sustain that? Is that good enough? I don't know. 486 00:23:02,760 --> 00:23:05,680 Speaker 2: I just feel very different about the interior versus the xterior. 487 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:10,439 Speaker 4: Let me answer Ambar's question first, it's easy to be 488 00:23:11,280 --> 00:23:14,840 Speaker 4: ungrateful when we hyper focus on one unit, but offensive 489 00:23:14,880 --> 00:23:16,960 Speaker 4: line around the whole league. Like, just think about some 490 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,600 Speaker 4: of the offensive lines that we've been breaking down. They 491 00:23:19,640 --> 00:23:21,560 Speaker 4: got like three or four dudes that ain't good, but 492 00:23:21,720 --> 00:23:22,399 Speaker 4: they just kind. 493 00:23:22,240 --> 00:23:24,640 Speaker 3: Of figured out had wanted tackle you didn't take advantage. 494 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 5: You didn't take advantage that the left tackle. 495 00:23:27,080 --> 00:23:28,720 Speaker 6: Yeah, school school started it. 496 00:23:28,880 --> 00:23:31,720 Speaker 2: You know, I saw one plan where as a ROCKU 497 00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:33,720 Speaker 2: just like cool and he's just right by him. 498 00:23:33,800 --> 00:23:36,959 Speaker 4: Yeah, I feel I feel. I feel good about your 499 00:23:36,960 --> 00:23:39,560 Speaker 4: offensive line. You have a young offensive line and they're 500 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:42,639 Speaker 4: still growing and you know, doing young offensive line stuff. 501 00:23:42,800 --> 00:23:44,280 Speaker 4: I think you're gonna have to find a new right 502 00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:47,000 Speaker 4: tackle at some point. Terror still, you know, hey, man, 503 00:23:47,040 --> 00:23:48,920 Speaker 4: you had a good run player. You made your money, 504 00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:51,359 Speaker 4: but it's it's probably time to find a new guy there. 505 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:52,159 Speaker 5: Uh. 506 00:23:52,240 --> 00:23:55,720 Speaker 4: To Derek's point, I actually think you're missing guiding like 507 00:23:55,840 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 4: real bad right now. I think he's much better in 508 00:23:59,080 --> 00:24:01,399 Speaker 4: the run game somehow. He's much more physical in the 509 00:24:01,480 --> 00:24:04,639 Speaker 4: run game some somehow, but he's not a great pass blocker. 510 00:24:04,760 --> 00:24:07,200 Speaker 4: I think your whole line is not a great past 511 00:24:07,200 --> 00:24:10,320 Speaker 4: blocking unit right now. But you can fix that by 512 00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:13,040 Speaker 4: just playing together, getting rips and just figuring out. It's 513 00:24:13,040 --> 00:24:16,840 Speaker 4: not like they're physically limited as past blockers. It's just, hey, 514 00:24:16,880 --> 00:24:18,720 Speaker 4: we got to pass guys along. We got to check 515 00:24:18,720 --> 00:24:21,000 Speaker 4: our aggressions sometimes, you know, slants and things like that. 516 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:23,080 Speaker 4: But they'll eventually figure out and you know, lunging, but 517 00:24:23,119 --> 00:24:28,040 Speaker 4: they'll eventually figure that out. To your guiding point, if 518 00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:31,520 Speaker 4: you think about the dude he was last year versus 519 00:24:31,560 --> 00:24:33,840 Speaker 4: who he is now and this is And just to 520 00:24:34,040 --> 00:24:36,119 Speaker 4: just to be clear, I wasn't that high on Guiden 521 00:24:36,200 --> 00:24:38,800 Speaker 4: coming out. I just I just fear dudes that hadn't 522 00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:42,600 Speaker 4: played a whole bunch. So as me, you would think 523 00:24:42,640 --> 00:24:44,119 Speaker 4: I would be the guy that want got him to 524 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:46,679 Speaker 4: be bast so I could be right about that evaluation. No, 525 00:24:46,880 --> 00:24:49,240 Speaker 4: he totally proved me wrong this year. He was terrible 526 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:52,880 Speaker 4: last year, but he's playing with confidence now, with power now. 527 00:24:52,880 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 4: I think he's a really really good run blocker, past blocker. 528 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 4: He got to bring all his athleticism and kind of 529 00:24:57,720 --> 00:24:59,600 Speaker 4: figure all that out. But he played tight end two 530 00:24:59,680 --> 00:25:01,160 Speaker 4: years ago, you know what I mean. So I think 531 00:25:01,200 --> 00:25:05,679 Speaker 4: the future of Guidance good to go, Nate. We'll see, uh. 532 00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:07,520 Speaker 4: But right tackle, I think that's something you're gonna have 533 00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,280 Speaker 4: to address moving forward. But as a whole I think 534 00:25:09,320 --> 00:25:12,040 Speaker 4: your offensive line next year is probably gonna be one 535 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:13,480 Speaker 4: of the better ones in the whole league. 536 00:25:13,480 --> 00:25:14,640 Speaker 5: They just got to fix the pass of them. 537 00:25:14,720 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 3: Yeah, Booker had the same amount of pressures as Steel 538 00:25:17,960 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: in this game both had four and so you know 539 00:25:20,560 --> 00:25:23,879 Speaker 3: that's something concerned. But the bigger concern for this and 540 00:25:23,960 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 3: I think this affected the game. And I wouldn't be 541 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:29,520 Speaker 3: surprised if Brian Schottenheimer says this UH today in the 542 00:25:29,640 --> 00:25:32,320 Speaker 3: in the in the UH when he has media availability, 543 00:25:33,119 --> 00:25:37,800 Speaker 3: Hunter Lifke and Williams were in ten drop back passing 544 00:25:37,880 --> 00:25:43,080 Speaker 3: situations with no pressures. Malik Davis was in for thirteen 545 00:25:43,200 --> 00:25:45,879 Speaker 3: dropbacks for pressures. Yep, that was some problem. 546 00:25:45,960 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 5: And we know Williams is really good at it and saying, yeah, you. 547 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:52,360 Speaker 3: Got you got compromised. So you're struggling a little bit 548 00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:55,760 Speaker 3: with Booker over there, you're struggling with Uh, you're struggling 549 00:25:55,800 --> 00:25:59,760 Speaker 3: with the tackle with Steel, you're struggling with Thomas over there. 550 00:25:59,800 --> 00:26:02,600 Speaker 3: But then all of a sudden, put on top of that, 551 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,400 Speaker 3: the guy who's always really good at cleaning up all 552 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:08,320 Speaker 3: the mess. To your point, am bar about how Dak 553 00:26:08,359 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 3: can kind of like Williams can buy you enough time 554 00:26:12,240 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 3: to escape and go somewhere else in the pocket if 555 00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 3: you have to. They didn't have that luxury yesterday when 556 00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:21,920 Speaker 3: Lipkey and Williams both were out for some extended periods 557 00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:24,679 Speaker 3: of time in that football game, and I think the 558 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:27,640 Speaker 3: guy who's usually there cleaning up the mess was over 559 00:26:27,680 --> 00:26:30,159 Speaker 3: there standing on the sideline, you know, waiting to go 560 00:26:30,240 --> 00:26:31,960 Speaker 3: back in the game on the second half because of 561 00:26:31,960 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 3: his shoulder injury. 562 00:26:32,880 --> 00:26:35,240 Speaker 2: And as you noticed, at the point when Williams was out, 563 00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:37,440 Speaker 2: they they put ma leak out there, but then when 564 00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:39,679 Speaker 2: they get to obvious passing downs, he was off the field. 565 00:26:39,800 --> 00:26:42,040 Speaker 2: They had Lipkey out there because I think they knew 566 00:26:42,040 --> 00:26:43,639 Speaker 2: that Lipkey's a better option to be able to do it. 567 00:26:43,640 --> 00:26:45,840 Speaker 2: So when you lose both of them, now you're you're 568 00:26:45,840 --> 00:26:46,800 Speaker 2: really maybe. 569 00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,320 Speaker 3: You know the one answer that Minnesota had yesterday because 570 00:26:49,400 --> 00:26:54,160 Speaker 3: of School playing the left tackle for them and Derrissal's 571 00:26:54,840 --> 00:26:57,159 Speaker 3: normally their left tackle, and that was that was a 572 00:26:57,200 --> 00:27:00,080 Speaker 3: scratch in the game, and all of a sudden you're thinking, well, 573 00:27:00,080 --> 00:27:02,679 Speaker 3: wait a minute, here we go, here's sixty seven target 574 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 3: on his back. 575 00:27:03,440 --> 00:27:04,200 Speaker 6: Go get him. 576 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,600 Speaker 3: Guy gave up no pressures and gave up no pressures 577 00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,560 Speaker 3: in that game, and that's unfortunate right there. That's a 578 00:27:09,560 --> 00:27:12,800 Speaker 3: missed opportunity. But you know what Minnesota did. It put 579 00:27:12,840 --> 00:27:16,720 Speaker 3: guys to his side. They knew that Dallas is kind 580 00:27:16,760 --> 00:27:19,639 Speaker 3: of as minimal as their pass rush has been. 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I don't know, man, 650 00:30:34,680 --> 00:30:36,120 Speaker 2: I'll tell you. I woke up in a funk man. 651 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: I don't know what it is. 652 00:30:36,880 --> 00:30:39,080 Speaker 5: A boss man taking an episode? Break you up? 653 00:30:39,680 --> 00:30:43,040 Speaker 2: Okay? Anyway, uh, he had an interesting tweet. Let me 654 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,760 Speaker 2: check this out. He said, JJ McCarthy had sixty point 655 00:30:45,880 --> 00:30:49,800 Speaker 2: seven passer rating yesterday. Again, I'm sorry. In general against 656 00:30:49,840 --> 00:30:53,000 Speaker 2: the blitz that was coming into this game, Dallas blitzed 657 00:30:53,040 --> 00:30:56,600 Speaker 2: him seven times and only one time in the second half. 658 00:30:57,000 --> 00:30:59,000 Speaker 2: Versus the blitz he was three or six or forty 659 00:30:59,040 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 2: one yards and intersect and a seventy two rating. With 660 00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:05,880 Speaker 2: no blitz he was twelve eighteen for two hundred and 661 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:08,520 Speaker 2: nine yards, one touchdown, one hundred and twenty four point 662 00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:12,440 Speaker 2: five rating. As you mentioned earlier, watch, that's a second 663 00:31:12,440 --> 00:31:16,080 Speaker 2: game in a row where they've blitzed early they found 664 00:31:16,080 --> 00:31:19,880 Speaker 2: some success. It's amazing they the blitz rate in the 665 00:31:19,920 --> 00:31:23,200 Speaker 2: first quarter sixty percent. This is another tweet that Bobby 666 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,920 Speaker 2: had first quarter sixty percent blitz rate and in second 667 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:29,479 Speaker 2: through the fourth quarter thirteen point six percent blitz rate. 668 00:31:29,520 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 2: And that's over the last two games. It's not just 669 00:31:31,160 --> 00:31:34,200 Speaker 2: one game. That's the last two games, and they've abandoned 670 00:31:34,280 --> 00:31:36,800 Speaker 2: basically what they were doing that was working so well 671 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:37,960 Speaker 2: in the first quarter. 672 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:40,280 Speaker 3: I'm going to make a promise here, I'm putting you on. 673 00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 3: I'm putting you on the spot. Okay, you and I 674 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:45,000 Speaker 3: talked about this morning. You're going to the press conference. 675 00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:48,320 Speaker 3: You're gonna ask him on Thursday? Right, yeah, media availability 676 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:49,120 Speaker 3: you should. 677 00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:52,920 Speaker 4: I'm gonna I'm gonna use my privileges. I'm walking that Thursday. 678 00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:56,200 Speaker 4: And you know Ted don't he'll no no know me 679 00:31:56,280 --> 00:31:58,360 Speaker 4: like I'm probably to go last. I'm pro last, Tad 680 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:00,680 Speaker 4: knows you tan on me, went he on me. I 681 00:32:00,800 --> 00:32:03,120 Speaker 4: be saying O wa back. 682 00:32:03,840 --> 00:32:05,240 Speaker 7: And then wait for your name. 683 00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:05,560 Speaker 6: To be called. 684 00:32:05,600 --> 00:32:06,800 Speaker 4: I know the rules, and I gotta be like this 685 00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,040 Speaker 4: vachelon Bardy from vacheln Bardy on YouTube. But then I'm 686 00:32:09,040 --> 00:32:11,480 Speaker 4: gonna be like and then I'm gonna be like, hey man, 687 00:32:11,520 --> 00:32:17,720 Speaker 4: flues bro man, just like man, please, don't how come 688 00:32:19,040 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 4: I don't go nowhere? 689 00:32:19,800 --> 00:32:20,480 Speaker 5: No, please at. 690 00:32:20,440 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 2: Least don't at least at least ask it better than that. 691 00:32:22,760 --> 00:32:25,720 Speaker 4: But yes, like, hey bro, how come when you see 692 00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,520 Speaker 4: success in the first two drives of a game, you 693 00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,320 Speaker 4: may be stacking bodies at the line of scrimmage to create. 694 00:32:33,080 --> 00:32:34,920 Speaker 5: One on ones. You may blitz guys. 695 00:32:35,080 --> 00:32:38,080 Speaker 4: You have guys that blitz better than other guys. Flues Bro, 696 00:32:38,640 --> 00:32:41,160 Speaker 4: Why you going away from that in quarter two through four? 697 00:32:41,320 --> 00:32:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm scarce. 698 00:32:42,360 --> 00:32:45,120 Speaker 2: I want to ask him that, you know, and something 699 00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,880 Speaker 2: scar because on that first touchdown, on that first touchdown, 700 00:32:50,120 --> 00:32:52,920 Speaker 2: they did blitz, and I wonder if that spooped him. 701 00:32:52,960 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: I wonder if he was like, oh, our corners can't 702 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: cover this. If we do this and if they get loose, 703 00:32:58,520 --> 00:32:59,400 Speaker 2: then we're done. 704 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,560 Speaker 3: I think it was Bland blade was Bland's eyes were. 705 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:05,200 Speaker 3: I mean, Bland got caught thinking it was maybe gonna 706 00:33:05,200 --> 00:33:08,840 Speaker 3: be run and he stepped up and then he realized that, 707 00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 3: oh my gosh, I just made a mistake yep, and 708 00:33:11,480 --> 00:33:13,600 Speaker 3: he turned to try and run to cover it up. 709 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 3: And but yeah, that was that was that was you know, 710 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:20,880 Speaker 3: you got to be better than that, Bland. And he struggled. 711 00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:23,040 Speaker 3: He really has. He just doesn't look the same. And 712 00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:24,920 Speaker 3: when's the last time you sell Bland. 713 00:33:24,760 --> 00:33:25,720 Speaker 6: Not look for a ball? 714 00:33:26,120 --> 00:33:29,000 Speaker 3: I mean, he he had a chance where McCarthy McCarthy 715 00:33:29,040 --> 00:33:30,600 Speaker 3: saws a ball short, it's going to hit Hi between 716 00:33:30,600 --> 00:33:32,680 Speaker 3: the two and the six. If he just turns around, Yeah, 717 00:33:32,720 --> 00:33:35,280 Speaker 3: it's probably gonna be an interception. Dallas that it's gonna 718 00:33:35,280 --> 00:33:37,200 Speaker 3: be in your end and they're not gonna score and 719 00:33:37,240 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 3: you get the ball you need. 720 00:33:38,080 --> 00:33:38,560 Speaker 6: To turn over. 721 00:33:39,160 --> 00:33:42,680 Speaker 3: But no, I mean, it's it's been a really really 722 00:33:42,720 --> 00:33:44,600 Speaker 3: off year for him when it comes to playing with 723 00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:47,840 Speaker 3: his technique, his eyes, just the way he's kind of 724 00:33:47,840 --> 00:33:49,239 Speaker 3: been able to finish or lack of. 725 00:33:49,440 --> 00:33:51,680 Speaker 2: Do you think that that the position that they've been 726 00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:54,400 Speaker 2: placed in has affected all these corners, because when you 727 00:33:54,440 --> 00:33:55,680 Speaker 2: look across the board. 728 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,960 Speaker 3: It's a real I'm just saying no, no, no, I'm 729 00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:01,200 Speaker 3: just saying it's real. It's kind of the what we 730 00:34:01,240 --> 00:34:03,959 Speaker 3: always call the low hanging fruit. And I'm not going 731 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,480 Speaker 3: to act like I sit there. I mean you, if 732 00:34:06,480 --> 00:34:10,040 Speaker 3: you got these coaches one on one by themselves, they 733 00:34:10,040 --> 00:34:11,840 Speaker 3: would probably explain it to you. 734 00:34:11,960 --> 00:34:12,560 Speaker 2: Why. 735 00:34:13,080 --> 00:34:15,520 Speaker 3: But when you go and Voch is gonna ask a 736 00:34:15,600 --> 00:34:19,200 Speaker 3: question that probably, and I mean this in respect, he's 737 00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:21,200 Speaker 3: not going to give a good answer. 738 00:34:21,360 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: I just don't. 739 00:34:22,239 --> 00:34:25,000 Speaker 3: I mean, hell, I asked him about playing spy coverage 740 00:34:25,040 --> 00:34:26,720 Speaker 3: and he didn't want to give me an answer. 741 00:34:26,760 --> 00:34:29,000 Speaker 4: He came, not takes me back if I'm up that though, right, 742 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,200 Speaker 4: I need the answer. I just want to know what 743 00:34:31,239 --> 00:34:31,560 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 744 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:34,319 Speaker 2: They won't let me just from the standpoint of a 745 00:34:34,360 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: press conference, which I've seen and been too many. Just 746 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:39,240 Speaker 2: because you ask a question doesn't mean get an answer, 747 00:34:39,320 --> 00:34:41,279 Speaker 2: but you will get an answer. It's not going to 748 00:34:41,320 --> 00:34:42,759 Speaker 2: be the answer necessarily that you look. 749 00:34:42,800 --> 00:34:44,759 Speaker 4: But what if I were to perfectly and follow up, 750 00:34:45,680 --> 00:34:47,080 Speaker 4: they won't They won't matter. 751 00:34:47,200 --> 00:34:49,239 Speaker 7: This is gonna be a tough question for me. But 752 00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,919 Speaker 7: let's let's play a little game here. 753 00:34:53,160 --> 00:34:53,920 Speaker 5: Answer what's up? 754 00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,280 Speaker 2: Any time? 755 00:34:58,320 --> 00:35:03,640 Speaker 7: Let's say you're even lose defense attorney and you're sitting. 756 00:35:03,400 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: There, did you say defense attorney? 757 00:35:05,840 --> 00:35:08,400 Speaker 6: Yeah? Yeah, you won't put that. 758 00:35:08,320 --> 00:35:10,080 Speaker 2: That's really funny. 759 00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:11,399 Speaker 7: You're sitting here. 760 00:35:11,560 --> 00:35:14,120 Speaker 6: You won't put that glove on. You won't put that 761 00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:17,360 Speaker 6: glove on it. I dare you to put that glove on. 762 00:35:17,960 --> 00:35:18,719 Speaker 6: You won't do it. 763 00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:20,080 Speaker 5: That's hilarious. 764 00:35:20,120 --> 00:35:22,080 Speaker 6: You're scared crazy. 765 00:35:22,160 --> 00:35:23,520 Speaker 2: Yeah, that's really well done. 766 00:35:23,560 --> 00:35:27,000 Speaker 6: I've channeling my my in, is what I was doing. 767 00:35:27,080 --> 00:35:30,680 Speaker 7: Because because we're sitting here trying to understand, okay, why why? 768 00:35:30,840 --> 00:35:33,680 Speaker 7: So just for the fun of it, I think really hard. 769 00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:37,200 Speaker 7: You're defending him, you're his defense attorney. You're up there, 770 00:35:37,760 --> 00:35:38,520 Speaker 7: what do you say? 771 00:35:39,440 --> 00:35:41,879 Speaker 5: The The correct answer is I can't defend him. 772 00:35:41,880 --> 00:35:44,600 Speaker 7: But I'd be like, well, vouch, you're getting paid to 773 00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:45,239 Speaker 7: defend him. 774 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,840 Speaker 4: Well, Vouch, if you look at Flores and his guys, 775 00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:51,040 Speaker 4: they've been running those exotic bliss. 776 00:35:50,800 --> 00:35:52,240 Speaker 5: Packages with him for two years. 777 00:35:52,840 --> 00:35:57,760 Speaker 4: Uh and vouch, maybe our players don't have the mental 778 00:35:57,880 --> 00:36:01,879 Speaker 4: processing to be able to on the fly perform their 779 00:36:02,160 --> 00:36:06,160 Speaker 4: job duties and disguise a bliss from Dak Prescott. 780 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:07,680 Speaker 3: At the same time, veteran defense. 781 00:36:09,560 --> 00:36:10,960 Speaker 5: They got a bunch of older dudes over there. We 782 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:12,080 Speaker 5: got a bunch of young cats over here. 783 00:36:12,120 --> 00:36:14,280 Speaker 3: I think he got some young cats playing in that secondary. 784 00:36:14,320 --> 00:36:17,320 Speaker 3: We got veteran safeties. You got a veteran corner, but 785 00:36:17,480 --> 00:36:20,160 Speaker 3: you got a young corner. But you put Carson out there. 786 00:36:20,200 --> 00:36:21,840 Speaker 3: What happens. He's out there for a little bit. He 787 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:24,759 Speaker 3: gives up a fifty yard pass that's on third down. 788 00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:27,560 Speaker 3: That's on third down. Sometimes it's about what you do. 789 00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:30,279 Speaker 3: It's hard to defend the guy. I'll say this, can 790 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:35,480 Speaker 3: I real quick. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, dominion reupted. I'm 791 00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:37,600 Speaker 3: sorry about that. I love you, brother. You know that 792 00:36:38,080 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 3: the thing that I think that I could defend flues 793 00:36:41,080 --> 00:36:43,759 Speaker 3: on the thing that I can. He didn't have any 794 00:36:43,760 --> 00:36:46,400 Speaker 3: pass rushers, He didn't have any pass rushers, you know, 795 00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:50,120 Speaker 3: and you know, his whole idea if he's got inside players, 796 00:36:50,160 --> 00:36:52,680 Speaker 3: but he has no edges. Now, when when Vatch and 797 00:36:52,719 --> 00:36:54,640 Speaker 3: I and we start to focus on the draft a 798 00:36:54,640 --> 00:36:56,640 Speaker 3: little bit more, and we've already kind of watching guys, 799 00:36:57,360 --> 00:36:59,439 Speaker 3: just go ahead and throw defensive end now in the mix. 800 00:36:59,520 --> 00:37:01,520 Speaker 3: I mean, you can say what you want about donovanez 801 00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:04,880 Speaker 3: Roku and the times, the pressures and stuff, but he hasn't. 802 00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 3: He hasn't delivered like I thought he would. He's a 803 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,120 Speaker 3: really he's been a good run defender. He has not 804 00:37:10,160 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 3: been a good pastrusher. But then again, Flues drops his 805 00:37:13,920 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 3: guys back. But he maybe if his guys were good 806 00:37:18,040 --> 00:37:20,160 Speaker 3: pass rushers, he wouldn't drop him out of there. 807 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:21,520 Speaker 6: You know, I don't know. 808 00:37:21,719 --> 00:37:24,439 Speaker 3: That's the one defense I think I have for him 809 00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,840 Speaker 3: is I think that that that he would like to 810 00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:31,200 Speaker 3: rush four that would be really, really good. But he 811 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:34,960 Speaker 3: has he doesn't have guys that can get home on 812 00:37:35,000 --> 00:37:35,440 Speaker 3: the edges. 813 00:37:35,520 --> 00:37:37,160 Speaker 6: He just doesn't. And and and. 814 00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 3: Especially when they get back there, they don't finish. That's 815 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:42,359 Speaker 3: another problem that he has. 816 00:37:42,440 --> 00:37:45,719 Speaker 4: So if we if we're in in court right now, Briann, Yeah, 817 00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,000 Speaker 4: football court, and I'm the. 818 00:37:47,680 --> 00:37:48,800 Speaker 5: Prosecutor or whatever. 819 00:37:49,320 --> 00:37:53,080 Speaker 4: If if your size says or if flu's his defense says, well, 820 00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,759 Speaker 4: we don't have guys to get pressure with four. My 821 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,439 Speaker 4: next response is why you keep bringing futh Why don't 822 00:37:58,480 --> 00:37:59,759 Speaker 4: you bring five or six. 823 00:38:00,080 --> 00:38:05,879 Speaker 2: That's a good debater, that's a good debate. Well, if 824 00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,920 Speaker 2: you can't get there with four, why are you bringing four. 825 00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 5: Especially when the numbers saying, yeah, that's you cool when 826 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:12,120 Speaker 5: you bring faster. 827 00:38:12,440 --> 00:38:15,440 Speaker 6: Yeah, But I think to mean my defense would be that, like. 828 00:38:15,480 --> 00:38:16,719 Speaker 5: You're proud I am. 829 00:38:17,480 --> 00:38:21,200 Speaker 3: My defense for flues would be I put corners out 830 00:38:21,200 --> 00:38:22,359 Speaker 3: there that I don't think can cover. 831 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:25,240 Speaker 6: I put a bit I'm playing. 832 00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:28,360 Speaker 3: You know, I unfortunately I put Carson out there for 833 00:38:28,560 --> 00:38:29,360 Speaker 3: a couple of plays. 834 00:38:29,400 --> 00:38:31,480 Speaker 6: What happens, I give up a big play. I got 835 00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:32,640 Speaker 6: safeties that really. 836 00:38:32,400 --> 00:38:35,000 Speaker 3: Don't cover, that don't drive on the ball. Well, you know, 837 00:38:35,200 --> 00:38:36,719 Speaker 3: I've got a corner on the other side. It's a 838 00:38:36,840 --> 00:38:39,839 Speaker 3: rookie who hadn't played since September of twenty twenty four. 839 00:38:40,400 --> 00:38:40,640 Speaker 6: You know. 840 00:38:40,760 --> 00:38:43,759 Speaker 3: That's the issues that I'm dealing with right now. That 841 00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,160 Speaker 3: is that would be my argument to you. I got linebackers, 842 00:38:47,320 --> 00:38:49,320 Speaker 3: I try and play a cover two look to maybe 843 00:38:49,360 --> 00:38:51,440 Speaker 3: help my defense a little bit, and I try and 844 00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,680 Speaker 3: drop the Mic linebacker into the middle to kind of 845 00:38:53,719 --> 00:38:56,480 Speaker 3: take my like my Mike linebacker. Can we get back 846 00:38:56,520 --> 00:38:58,959 Speaker 3: far enough balcos or his head? All of a sudden, 847 00:38:59,000 --> 00:39:01,760 Speaker 3: the Viking tied end mixed a big play. I'm trying 848 00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,560 Speaker 3: my best with what I got. You know, should I 849 00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:05,279 Speaker 3: blitz more? 850 00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,520 Speaker 6: Yes? Should I rush five? Yes? 851 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:10,439 Speaker 3: I should do all those things, But right now I'm 852 00:39:10,440 --> 00:39:12,560 Speaker 3: having to play this defense the way I am, and 853 00:39:12,560 --> 00:39:14,759 Speaker 3: when I just try and play just to try and 854 00:39:14,760 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 3: protect this I can't get guys to even execute that. 855 00:39:18,440 --> 00:39:18,720 Speaker 5: Well. 856 00:39:18,920 --> 00:39:21,600 Speaker 2: Yeah, my thought would be, if that's the case, then 857 00:39:21,880 --> 00:39:27,799 Speaker 2: let's go uber aggressive with regard to blitzing, because if 858 00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:29,680 Speaker 2: my corners, if I don't trust my corners to cover well, 859 00:39:29,760 --> 00:39:32,960 Speaker 2: especially downfield, give the quarterback less time to make a decision. 860 00:39:33,000 --> 00:39:35,440 Speaker 6: That's what the Vikings do, exactly exact. That's it. 861 00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:38,399 Speaker 2: They basically say, you got a couple seconds and after 862 00:39:38,440 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 2: that we'll be at your quarterback. So it also helps 863 00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,480 Speaker 2: your cornerbacks. To the cornerbacks, Now, I only got to 864 00:39:42,520 --> 00:39:44,759 Speaker 2: cover this guy for a couple seconds, right, and then 865 00:39:44,800 --> 00:39:46,480 Speaker 2: I can go after the ball. I think that's when 866 00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680 Speaker 2: Bland's at his best like, we know he is a 867 00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,000 Speaker 2: ball hawk. If he knows the ball's coming out quick, 868 00:39:51,200 --> 00:39:52,560 Speaker 2: he will make plays on the ball. 869 00:39:52,600 --> 00:39:56,080 Speaker 3: I think that's probably what me big with his situation. 870 00:39:55,760 --> 00:39:57,640 Speaker 2: Right, and I think Diggs would be better in that 871 00:39:57,719 --> 00:39:59,360 Speaker 2: kind of defense. 872 00:40:00,040 --> 00:40:01,200 Speaker 5: Can we come what do you say? 873 00:40:01,360 --> 00:40:02,200 Speaker 3: I said? 874 00:40:02,840 --> 00:40:07,399 Speaker 5: He said, benching Digs. He said, Okay, that's what I thought. 875 00:40:08,440 --> 00:40:11,240 Speaker 5: That's why I said, that's why Digs is benching himself. 876 00:40:11,320 --> 00:40:13,360 Speaker 2: Yes, yes, yeah, it happens. It happened. 877 00:40:13,360 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 6: Not really, I didn't say that. Hey, man, I know 878 00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:18,720 Speaker 6: gloryhole situation. 879 00:40:18,760 --> 00:40:21,239 Speaker 5: She was saying it. Can I add another? 880 00:40:22,239 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 7: I don't know, go ahead what you're about to say that, man, 881 00:40:26,400 --> 00:40:28,439 Speaker 7: I was just about glory Hold. 882 00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:31,360 Speaker 6: I was just doing the rich stout say that. 883 00:40:31,640 --> 00:40:34,160 Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, real quick. Listen. One other topic one date 884 00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:37,719 Speaker 2: before we ended the show, looking at the linebackers specifically, 885 00:40:37,800 --> 00:40:40,000 Speaker 2: we've been asking for more Logan Wilson. 886 00:40:40,880 --> 00:40:43,399 Speaker 5: Yest on time. 887 00:40:43,640 --> 00:40:45,759 Speaker 2: But I was like, yesterday, yesterday, for the first time, 888 00:40:46,120 --> 00:40:47,960 Speaker 2: for the first time, we did see a flip in 889 00:40:48,040 --> 00:40:50,760 Speaker 2: those percentages. Logan Wilson had fifty three percent of snaps, 890 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 2: Kenneth Murray played forty percent of snaps. My question is, 891 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:56,480 Speaker 2: was there a difference. How do you assess Williams Wilson's 892 00:40:56,520 --> 00:40:58,640 Speaker 2: play and was it any better than maybe what you've 893 00:40:58,640 --> 00:41:00,000 Speaker 2: seen so far from from Murray. 894 00:41:00,080 --> 00:41:03,399 Speaker 4: I'll say this first couple drives, when Logan was out there, 895 00:41:03,440 --> 00:41:04,600 Speaker 4: the defense looked a little better. 896 00:41:04,640 --> 00:41:06,479 Speaker 5: But that might be what's happening, y'all. 897 00:41:06,719 --> 00:41:08,759 Speaker 4: But the defense may have looked a little better because 898 00:41:08,760 --> 00:41:11,960 Speaker 4: Flus was just doing good, good defensive things early. Now, 899 00:41:12,360 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 4: I can't say that as soon as Murray went on 900 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,920 Speaker 4: the field, Flus went right back to not blisten like. 901 00:41:17,000 --> 00:41:19,040 Speaker 4: We don't know if that's the cause of them looking 902 00:41:19,280 --> 00:41:20,720 Speaker 4: terrible or just whatever whatever. 903 00:41:20,800 --> 00:41:22,960 Speaker 5: But as soon as Murray. 904 00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,400 Speaker 4: Got in the game, boy, you just can't unsee fifty 905 00:41:25,480 --> 00:41:28,040 Speaker 4: nine in a bad spot. So I don't know, man, 906 00:41:28,040 --> 00:41:29,960 Speaker 4: we just gonna have to wait the rest of the season. 907 00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:32,160 Speaker 4: I Murray ain't going to where. Murray works real hard. 908 00:41:32,200 --> 00:41:34,640 Speaker 4: He's a great teammate. He brings up the youth, he's 909 00:41:34,680 --> 00:41:36,680 Speaker 4: early tall to meet, and he brings cookies and all that. 910 00:41:36,760 --> 00:41:38,440 Speaker 4: He gonna be here, So I don't eve want to 911 00:41:38,480 --> 00:41:40,520 Speaker 4: complain by it, no more, ken't Murry. 912 00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:41,200 Speaker 5: He gonna be here. 913 00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:43,640 Speaker 3: How about this one though? When you look at though 914 00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,600 Speaker 3: the metrics will tell you when Logan Wilson was on 915 00:41:46,640 --> 00:41:49,600 Speaker 3: the field rushing, they give up two point seven. When 916 00:41:49,600 --> 00:41:51,399 Speaker 3: he was off the field it was two point eight. 917 00:41:52,480 --> 00:41:56,000 Speaker 3: Murray on the field was two point eight, off the 918 00:41:56,000 --> 00:41:59,280 Speaker 3: field two point seven. So they both against the run 919 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,520 Speaker 3: were very equal. It's the where you start to see 920 00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:04,480 Speaker 3: the problems is what I mentioned is when you play 921 00:42:04,520 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 3: cover two and all of a sudden you need to 922 00:42:07,080 --> 00:42:10,920 Speaker 3: have a drop and depth and positioning. That's where the 923 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:14,120 Speaker 3: biggest biggest difference right now is with between Murray and 924 00:42:14,160 --> 00:42:16,719 Speaker 3: Logan Wilson. Logan Wilson, I mean you could you could 925 00:42:16,760 --> 00:42:19,600 Speaker 3: watch film with Logan Wilson taking angles and cutting off 926 00:42:19,680 --> 00:42:22,960 Speaker 3: routes and stuff like that. With Murray it's not as clean. 927 00:42:23,080 --> 00:42:26,520 Speaker 3: And so that's but yesterday in that football game, I mean, 928 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,560 Speaker 3: there was nobody on that field yesterday for the Cowboys 929 00:42:29,560 --> 00:42:31,000 Speaker 3: that was a liability in the run game. 930 00:42:31,680 --> 00:42:32,160 Speaker 6: Nobody. 931 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 3: I mean, every every one of them is two point eight, 932 00:42:34,760 --> 00:42:39,120 Speaker 3: two point seven, two point five, one point nine, every 933 00:42:39,160 --> 00:42:39,640 Speaker 3: one of them. 934 00:42:39,760 --> 00:42:41,480 Speaker 2: I thought Kenny Clark had a pretty good game all 935 00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:42,200 Speaker 2: there considered. 936 00:42:42,680 --> 00:42:43,959 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. 937 00:42:44,239 --> 00:42:46,400 Speaker 3: When you look at when you look at run stuffs 938 00:42:46,440 --> 00:42:49,800 Speaker 3: and snaps and run tackles and stuff like that. That's 939 00:42:49,960 --> 00:42:53,680 Speaker 3: that's no longer an issue. The issue is like linebackers 940 00:42:53,719 --> 00:42:56,640 Speaker 3: and coverage, safety and coverage, corners and coverage. I'd say 941 00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:58,680 Speaker 3: that's a that's a big, big issue, and lack of 942 00:42:58,760 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 3: pass rush is a big issue. 943 00:43:00,680 --> 00:43:03,480 Speaker 2: All right, that's a wrap. We'll be back tomorrow. We'll 944 00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:04,880 Speaker 2: do in a little bit more. We're going side to 945 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:06,440 Speaker 2: the brain of Brian brought us some sure lots of 946 00:43:06,520 --> 00:43:07,840 Speaker 2: questions that will make us. 947 00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:09,360 Speaker 7: We're not back tomorrow. 948 00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:11,600 Speaker 2: Oh yeah, you're right. We're not gonna be back tomorrow. 949 00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,920 Speaker 2: We'll be back on Wednesday. I can come tomorrow. Huh, 950 00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:16,160 Speaker 2: I can come in. You'll be by yourself, yourself. 951 00:43:16,160 --> 00:43:18,120 Speaker 5: I need that money. I'll show you. 952 00:43:18,080 --> 00:43:19,200 Speaker 2: Can't produce the show. 953 00:43:19,280 --> 00:43:21,000 Speaker 5: And I'm a YouTube I can produce a show. 954 00:43:21,320 --> 00:43:23,719 Speaker 2: Not the way we're set up. We're more high tech 955 00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:24,360 Speaker 2: than the way. 956 00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,960 Speaker 5: That y'all need thirty people for a lastreak. 957 00:43:27,320 --> 00:43:29,320 Speaker 2: We need more people in order to do it well. 958 00:43:29,160 --> 00:43:35,000 Speaker 4: Forty people in order to do it well. 959 00:43:30,880 --> 00:43:38,040 Speaker 2: I will google me like the Indiana coach Google. 960 00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:38,560 Speaker 6: I win. 961 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:41,200 Speaker 2: All right, We're gonna be back on Wednesday, and we'll 962 00:43:41,200 --> 00:43:44,960 Speaker 2: get you ready for the next Cowboys versus Chargers. Chargers 963 00:43:45,160 --> 00:43:47,120 Speaker 2: off Washington teams. 964 00:43:47,120 --> 00:43:49,280 Speaker 5: We have to play all the preview don't. 965 00:43:49,160 --> 00:43:52,279 Speaker 2: Matter, it absolutely does. That's the one thing that we 966 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,279 Speaker 2: do around here. We finished the season. That's what we're 967 00:43:55,280 --> 00:43:57,680 Speaker 2: doing this show. We finished the season. Brother, So we 968 00:43:57,680 --> 00:44:00,640 Speaker 2: will be getting you guys signed out with charges. Yes, sir, 969 00:44:00,680 --> 00:44:03,240 Speaker 2: we share eighteen weeks. Uh so we're gonna do Cowboys 970 00:44:03,320 --> 00:44:05,759 Speaker 2: versus Chargers. We'll get to the Chargers offense versus the 971 00:44:05,760 --> 00:44:07,960 Speaker 2: Cowboys defense. Still in for Vox Lombardy. Brian brought us. 972 00:44:07,960 --> 00:44:09,480 Speaker 2: Now we're gona see. I'm Derek Hilton has been The 973 00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,920 Speaker 2: Break live on Dallas Cowboys dot Com Radio. 974 00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: This has been a production of Dallascowboys dot Com and 975 00:44:16,239 --> 00:44:18,080 Speaker 1: the Dallas Cowboys Football Club.