Speaker 1: Welcome to the solid verbal hull. That for me. I'm
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Speaker 1: name is ty Hildebrandt. I am joined as always by
Speaker 1: the illustrious Dan Rubinstein in the Chicago Burbs. Sir, thank you,
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm not bad.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you have a strategy for hurry up,
Speaker 2: no huddle showers when you look at the clock and
Speaker 2: you're like, I have three minutes, I have ninety seconds.
Speaker 2: I don't know if you go soap before shampoo, if
Speaker 2: you're soaping, shampoo and conditioning. I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: got like I'm going to put shampoo in my hair
Speaker 2: and then soap my body and then rinse all off
Speaker 2: at the same time for efficiency's sake. But I just
Speaker 2: thought about that a lot as I took a two
Speaker 2: and a half minute shower.
Speaker 1: How are you? I'm well. I did not have that
Speaker 1: hurry up, no huddle experience before hitting the record button today,
Speaker 1: so perhaps i'm a little bit more composed.
Speaker 2: But you've certainly taken last minute showers. Oh, your time
Speaker 2: is of the essence.
Speaker 1: I usually try to work my way from top to
Speaker 1: bottom smart. But that being said, I have gotten out
Speaker 1: of the shower many a time wondering was I in
Speaker 1: there long enough to actually achieve the objective.
Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's not about cleanliness of body, it's about
Speaker 2: cleanliness of mind. And with that, hello everybody. I don't
Speaker 2: really have a smooth transition from cleaning one's body, probably
Speaker 2: more often than I should, but that's what a newborn does.
Speaker 2: Tie You're like, well, I didn't exercise today for two
Speaker 2: three straight days. I don't have a smooth transition. But
Speaker 2: we've been wanting to do this show for a little bit,
Speaker 2: and I think it's a really good way to touch
Speaker 2: on teams across college football. Today we're doing power five.
Speaker 2: I'd like I have an idea percolating for a group
Speaker 2: of five ish concept as well. But we were sort
Speaker 2: of inspired by the Grammys, but maybe it was the
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen Grammys. In reality, because we're playing a game,
Speaker 2: I guess we're calling one direction with a caveat called
Speaker 2: the middle.
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Speaker 1: haven't sent out a whole lot of lately, but certainly
Speaker 1: as we get a little bit closer to the season,
Speaker 1: we'll be ramping up that effort as well. Daniel, I
Speaker 1: did want to come back to later on in the show,
Speaker 1: not now. I want to come back to the reason
Speaker 1: that we are recording a little bit earlier than usual,
Speaker 1: and perhaps the rationale behind the hurry up, no huddle
Speaker 1: shower I'm making a bunch of pizzas. Let's save that
Speaker 1: for the end. Yeah, yeah, let's save that for the end.
Speaker 1: One direction is the name of the show, Sing it Dan?
Speaker 1: Do you know the lyrics? Honey? Else? That's what makes you.
Speaker 2: Well, I don't know one direction that well, I actually
Speaker 2: have to study up the reason we're calling it. Is
Speaker 2: there any news you want to get to? I saw
Speaker 2: George Pickens towards a cl which is a huge bum,
Speaker 2: pretty gigantic bomber. Yeah, so hopefully that is something I
Speaker 2: saw Cal played at spring game.
Speaker 1: Who knew? So?
Speaker 2: I mean, I think spring games and spring practice will
Speaker 2: be a little bit different as teams readjust to whatever
Speaker 2: normal is going to be in twenty twenty one, and
Speaker 2: let's hope it's as you know, exceedingly normal as possible.
Speaker 2: But no, it's been pretty quiet. I saw our friend
Speaker 2: Bill Connolly posted the eighty best defenders of the two
Speaker 2: thousands and twenty tens. I guess so since two thousand.
Speaker 1: Oh, I'm sure he's not going to get any hate
Speaker 1: mail for that one. Well that's he did that. He
Speaker 1: did it with what quarterbacks? Or yeah?
Speaker 2: Thank yeah, yeah, I think he did it with quarterbacks.
Speaker 2: Defenders is so tough because essentially you're saying, and we're
Speaker 2: just talking about his content, but you're saying, the number
Speaker 2: sixty four safety is better at playing defense, whatever that
Speaker 2: like large idea is than the number, you know, seventy
Speaker 2: two guy who is a defensive tackle. And so I
Speaker 2: applaud bravery. It takes to list out players that have
Speaker 2: very little to do with each other and very little
Speaker 2: in terms of measurables. But I thought it was mostly
Speaker 2: a good list, and Domic Cansoue was number one, and
Speaker 2: you know Sean Taylor's there's all sorts of incredible players,
Speaker 2: but it's difficult to argue with the impact that Dominican
Speaker 2: Sioux had on the defensive side of the ball these
Speaker 2: last couple decades.
Speaker 1: Bill Connolly put this list out. We can perhaps bring
Speaker 1: him on at some point here in the next few weeks.
Speaker 1: Excuse me to talk about that and whatever he's been
Speaker 1: doing in this year run up to I guess spring
Speaker 1: football season, the early early preseason, whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call this the show today though one direction is the
Speaker 1: title Dan. As he said at the top, we've been
Speaker 1: thinking this one up for quite some time. It's taking
Speaker 1: on a couple different forms. We settled on five teams,
Speaker 1: and what we're going to do is look at how
Speaker 1: they performed in twenty nineteen, how they performed in twenty twenty,
Speaker 1: and then make a judgment call on where they're at,
Speaker 1: where they're headed, and which of those two seasons we
Speaker 1: should believe more. Is that an accurate description? Yeah?
Speaker 2: These were the bigger I don't I mean there are
Speaker 2: cases across the five Power conferences that maybe this team
Speaker 2: had the wider variants in winning percentage between twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: and twenty twenty. Obviously we had to go winning percentage
Speaker 2: since number of games was variable between the two years,
Speaker 2: But yeah, which year is more indicative of what that
Speaker 2: team appears to be now and moving forward? And that
Speaker 2: doesn't necessarily mean twenty twenty one, but just I guess
Speaker 2: it can be a part of it. But when you
Speaker 2: think of that program and the momentum that team either
Speaker 2: does or doesn't have, which of those years and so
Speaker 2: we had, you know, going in both directions, the team
Speaker 2: would have incredible twenty nineteen and take a pretty noticeable
Speaker 2: step back last year, and vice versa. So we have
Speaker 2: five teams, we've split them up. I have three of them,
Speaker 2: You have two of them if my math from a
Speaker 2: state school serves, and I have it least, I don't
Speaker 2: know three and a half extremely esoteric references that I
Speaker 2: don't know why these teams and situations reminded me of,
Speaker 2: but I'm excited to reveal them.
Speaker 1: Well, why don't you go first? So I have well here,
Speaker 1: let's let's not spoil the surprise. Okay, let's let's not
Speaker 1: do that. Looking at the teams that you've got, why
Speaker 1: don't you start with Texas A and M DAN.
Speaker 2: I would love to start with Texas A and M
Speaker 2: So the Aggies are fascinating. So if you look at
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen, obviously a disappointing year in terms of.
Speaker 1: Record, but as we all remember, it's.
Speaker 2: Like kind of an impossible schedule between playing Alabama, Clemson
Speaker 2: once in a long blue moon LSU offense led by
Speaker 2: the Heisman Trophy winner. It was a tough season just
Speaker 2: in terms of situation. So that year they you know,
Speaker 2: they're right around five hundred. It was an average year
Speaker 2: in the in the win column. But also twenty twenty
Speaker 2: was reason for there was reason for optimism going into
Speaker 2: the season, and I felt like they maybe even eclipsed
Speaker 2: my high expectations for a bounce back year given an
Speaker 2: easier schedule, and so when you look at the reason
Speaker 2: I mean beyond the schedule in twenty nineteen, it's not
Speaker 2: a particularly explosive team. The twenty nineteen squad. You know,
Speaker 2: they don't have playmakers all over the field. Kellen Mond
Speaker 2: sort of was who he was, which was definitely solid.
Speaker 2: Is that fair? He was consistently solid with a pretty
Speaker 2: and I think he raised his ceiling when you look
Speaker 2: at what the Aggies did against especially Florida and North
Speaker 2: Carolina in twenty twenty. But in terms of status quo,
Speaker 2: I do think they are closer to twenty twenty and
Speaker 2: moving forward. There is something promising about you know, returning
Speaker 2: the best one of the best three tight ends in
Speaker 2: the country in Jalen Weidermeier, just because he was their
Speaker 2: leading receiver last year. And so the hope is that
Speaker 2: they develop more explosion on offense. Obviously Mike Elco has
Speaker 2: helped to take that defense to a really nice level.
Speaker 2: And there is still something about the SEC West that
Speaker 2: there's a lot up in the air. There's there's still
Speaker 2: like the question of you know, what is ole missus ceiling,
Speaker 2: What is Mississippi State going to look like as Mike
Speaker 2: Leach transforms the place. We know Arkansas improved, we know
Speaker 2: LSU should be heading in the right direction. Alabama was
Speaker 2: a monster, but at the same time A and M's
Speaker 2: recruited super well. It's you know, there's the quarterback question.
Speaker 2: There's me a battle this year. Haines King, who had
Speaker 2: some time last year, a highly regarded recruit, is seems
Speaker 2: to be the leader in the clubhouse. But I just
Speaker 2: I find myself liking a lot about A and M,
Speaker 2: especially if they can develop more explosion on offense, and
Speaker 2: that's you know, Caleb Chapman getting healthier from last year
Speaker 2: and fully weaponizing a Nyas Smith. So I think they're
Speaker 2: winning more. If the twenty twenty one twenty two squads
Speaker 2: are playing the twenty nineteen schedule, I think they're winning more.
Speaker 2: I don't know if they're betting comes in an Alabama
Speaker 2: or LSU, but they're probably beating Auburn. They're probably a
Speaker 2: more complete experience. So my one direction for the Aggies
Speaker 2: is onward and upward and continued twenty twenty success.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing about I'm looking at A and M's
Speaker 1: twenty twenty one schedule, and if any college football fan
Speaker 1: has ever been to FBS schedules dot com, where we
Speaker 1: all go to look at schedules, they've got listed out
Speaker 1: here all of the upcoming games, starting with the spring
Speaker 1: game on April the seventeenth. The Maroon and White spring
Speaker 1: game may legit be the toughest non conference game on
Speaker 1: this sture. Yeah, absolutely so. I mean it's not like
Speaker 1: they're going to be going out of their way to
Speaker 1: play any golias. Obviously, they've got to play an SEC
Speaker 1: WES slate, which should be better this coming Sea. I
Speaker 1: think I agree with you. They've recruited really well. They
Speaker 1: do lose Kelenmond and the quarterback spot I think is
Speaker 1: going to be an area to watch, but there is
Speaker 1: enough around them, and Jimbo Fisher has done this before.
Speaker 1: They were in contention. You could say that with kind
Speaker 1: of a ry grin or with a serious face. You know,
Speaker 1: I guess they're in cons where we're coming from. But
Speaker 1: they were a top ten team, Yeah, they were top
Speaker 1: ten teen to a top five team, and they had
Speaker 1: a really good season. So I felt for a long
Speaker 1: time that bringing Jimbo over to the SEC West was
Speaker 1: gonna perhaps change that dynamic. It just may take a
Speaker 1: little bit to get there. And now without Kellenmond, who
Speaker 1: I agree he was serviceable, he was very very good,
Speaker 1: he was solid. I'm curious to see if the next
Speaker 1: man up can take them to greater heights.
Speaker 2: I do have a slight asterisk asterisk so in the
Speaker 2: way that twenty nineteen was brutal schedule wise, and this
Speaker 2: is just a devil's ad advocate a little more context.
Speaker 2: You have a Mississippi State team that kind of collapsed
Speaker 2: pretty early on after that LSU win in twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: an all time bad Vanderbilt team that they had an
Speaker 2: extremely slow start against. That's a seventeen to twelve win.
Speaker 2: The Florida win was very impressive in hindsight. Arkansas moved
Speaker 2: the ball against Texas, A and M I believe, especially
Speaker 2: on the ground. South Carolina was extremely bad for stretches
Speaker 2: of twenty twenty and fired their coach. LSU was uncharacteristically bad.
Speaker 2: Auburn had its own issues, especially on offense. Tennessee fired
Speaker 2: their coach and had large stretches of playing bad football,
Speaker 2: and North Carolina, while definitely capital g good, wasn't amazing
Speaker 2: all the time on defense. So nothing A and M
Speaker 2: can do except win the games on their schedule. But
Speaker 2: in terms of showing what they could in twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: against a series of high quality teams, I don't know
Speaker 2: if they fully had that opportunity. Okay, so there's your
Speaker 2: devil's advocate.
Speaker 1: We feel like the one direction, the one direction for
Speaker 1: this A and M squad is more of what we
Speaker 1: saw in twenty twenty. Yes, absolutely, yeah, that's were you
Speaker 1: a one direction person? What? No? A one direction person?
Speaker 1: What does that mean?
Speaker 2: Like you got a little bit happy and you had
Speaker 2: you know, you were tapping your fingers on your car's
Speaker 2: middle console when a one direction song would come on
Speaker 2: your satellite r M. I was never I think they're fine.
Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, they're fine. It's not like I'm
Speaker 1: sure there were some toe taps, let's say, but I'm not.
Speaker 1: I'm not going to profess to like hearing them on
Speaker 1: the Sirius XM radio and not wondering I wonder what's
Speaker 1: on channel twelve instead that you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Like it wasn't it. They didn't have that draw for me.
Speaker 1: I'm a specially one direction on A and M.
Speaker 2: If they can generate more big plays downfield, because that's
Speaker 2: what I mean, that's what beat him against Florida.
Speaker 1: Can you know how many members I'm going all over
Speaker 1: the place. How many members of one direction? Can you name? Uh?
Speaker 1: There was Harry Styles for sure. There was Liam something okay,
Speaker 1: zany last name, Zane Mallick mm hmm. And those are
Speaker 1: the only ones I know. I don't know how were
Speaker 1: there five? They're five Louis and Niall, which I would
Speaker 1: not have known if I didn't look at that. Oh
Speaker 1: was there a Liam? There was a Liam? Okay, Liam Payne,
Speaker 1: Liam Payne. Yeah, Okay, where are we going? Let's do
Speaker 1: NC State? Dan, I love this? Okay, NC State the
Speaker 1: wolf Pack baby. In twenty nineteen, they were four and eight.
Speaker 1: They were dreadful. They beat East Carolina, West Carolina, Ball State,
Speaker 1: and Syracuse. That was it. Offense was dreadful. They were
Speaker 1: worse in the passing game in the than in the
Speaker 1: rushing game, but they were just bad. Their turnover margin
Speaker 1: was just about the worst in the nation at minus thirteen,
Speaker 1: created no big plays. The defense wasn't much better, but
Speaker 1: it was a tick better than the offense, which was
Speaker 1: really nonexistent. More than anything, though, they were very young,
Speaker 1: very young, which maybe tips you off where I'm going
Speaker 1: with my breakdown here. Very young quarterback was a great example.
Speaker 1: Twenty nineteen was the year after Ryan Finley. It was
Speaker 1: pretty good. It was pretty good Frenzy State. Some of
Speaker 1: the names that we had at quarterback were the same
Speaker 1: that we had last year or this past season, I
Speaker 1: should say, but just a year younger. So Bailey Hawkman,
Speaker 1: Devin Leary, they both saw time. Matthew McKay opened up
Speaker 1: the season as the starter. I remember he had there
Speaker 1: were high hopes for I mean, bigger dude. Yeah, big dude,
Speaker 1: like six'. Four he eventually transferred before the start of
Speaker 1: the twenty twenty season over To Montana state because it
Speaker 1: was clear it wasn't he was not going to get the.
Speaker 1: Job BUT i think that played a. Factor they also
Speaker 1: had stagnation on the coaching staff Because Dave dorian's been
Speaker 1: there since twenty. THIRTEEN i think he's done an okay,
Speaker 1: job about a five hundred, coach a little bit better
Speaker 1: than five. Hundred but a lot of the guys in
Speaker 1: that staff had been there a, while and one of
Speaker 1: the things that they tried to do in light of
Speaker 1: that four and eight season going into twenty twenty was
Speaker 1: shake things. Up so they bring In Tim, beck who
Speaker 1: we you, know we love to make fun Of Tim.
Speaker 1: BECK i don't think that's ever going to. Change but
Speaker 1: the offense was, better it, improved it was. Better it
Speaker 1: was decidedly average in most, respects which was a significant
Speaker 1: improvement in and of. Itself they went eight and four
Speaker 1: this past. Season they didn't really beat anyone THAT i
Speaker 1: would say was that. Terrific they edged Both pit And
Speaker 1: liberty by one.
Speaker 2: Point, WELL i, MEAN i think Beating, virginia Beating, liberty
Speaker 2: beating you, said What, Pit Pitt, bike those are all.
Speaker 2: Solid that was a weird, game That PIT Nc state.
Speaker 2: Game but, yeah a win is a win is a.
Speaker 1: Win SO i think Where i'm going with this is
Speaker 1: just that they definitely took a step forward by shaking things.
Speaker 1: Up on the. Staff you had fewer of these like
Speaker 1: assistant offensive coordinators or passing game coordinators or. Whatever on
Speaker 1: the defensive, side it seemed like they simplified it. Down
Speaker 1: they brought in some new names and that may have.
Speaker 1: Helped and to the point at, quarterback Both Devin leary
Speaker 1: And Bailey hawkman saw. Time McKay transferred Out as we,
Speaker 1: Said leary got off to a good start and then got,
Speaker 1: hurt And hawkman got most of the, STAPs and, look
Speaker 1: he still throws too many, interceptions but all of their
Speaker 1: completion percentages got. Better SO i think in conjunction with
Speaker 1: the quarterback position getting a little bit more, mature the
Speaker 1: team did as. Well remember they were very young in twenty.
Speaker 1: Nineteen they're a year older in twenty. Twenty goofy. Year
Speaker 1: we've already acknowledged that a million. Times but they got better.
Speaker 1: Defensively they also got better AND i would say above
Speaker 1: average truly in most. CASES i tend to think that
Speaker 1: twenty twenty is more of the direction, here AND i
Speaker 1: feel pretty good about this team in the short. Term
Speaker 1: twenty nineteen was a. Blip if you look At Dave,
Speaker 1: dorian he had one bad season when he started AT Nc,
Speaker 1: state he had another in twenty. Nineteen everything in between
Speaker 1: was like, seven, five eight and. Four that's what this
Speaker 1: program is under. Him AND i do think they were
Speaker 1: still young enough last season that we can expect perhaps
Speaker 1: more gains moving, forward BUT i don't believe that foreign
Speaker 1: eight at. All so my one, direction, yeah is twenty
Speaker 1: twenty as well FOR Nc state.
Speaker 2: At Mississippi, state At Boston college At, miami At Florida
Speaker 2: state At wake not a HORRIBLE i, know they Get
Speaker 2: clemson In North, carolina but in terms of a road,
Speaker 2: schedule you, KNOW i THINK Nc state is squarely still
Speaker 2: like The Turkey club of THE, acc always, solid very
Speaker 2: high floor in most.
Speaker 1: Years so, YEAH i THINK i. AGREE i. Agree where
Speaker 1: do you want to go? Next? NEXT i want to
Speaker 1: go To, Washington, Dan, yeah the alma mater of your,
Speaker 1: brother that's, true the hated rival of Your Oregon ducks one.
Speaker 1: School we used to Call Jake forest for obvious, reasons a.
Speaker 1: Quarterback But washington's in an interesting spot Because Chris peterson,
Speaker 1: retires moves into more of an administrative role or whatever
Speaker 1: he's doing, now turns it over To Jimmy lake promotion from,
Speaker 1: within a lot of folks feel good About Jimmy. Lake
Speaker 1: but we kind of didn't get a really good sense
Speaker 1: for Where washington's at because they only play like four
Speaker 1: games in twenty. Twenty So i'm curious to get your read, On,
Speaker 1: like can we even use twenty twenty as an?
Speaker 2: INDICATOR i think we can use it as sort of a.
Speaker 2: PROLOGUE i think there are elements that makes sense to
Speaker 2: look at as indicative of where the program is, heading
Speaker 2: but not necessarily a. Referendum washington is interesting Because Jimmy
Speaker 2: lake is a bigger personality and was a great defensive
Speaker 2: coordinator when he was in that role With Pete kwikowski
Speaker 2: as his co defensive. Coordinator AND i thought there was
Speaker 2: going to be sort of a jump starting of A
Speaker 2: washington program that got kind of stagnant after they went
Speaker 2: to the playoff With Jimmy. Lake and it still may
Speaker 2: happen on the. Field on, offense you, know they they
Speaker 2: Start Dylan morris and he's, fine, efficient but they you,
Speaker 2: know they're not great at. Receiver they lose a couple
Speaker 2: of their best receivers to. Transfer they're not recruiting all that.
Speaker 2: Well and the thing that concerns, me and we don't
Speaker 2: need to go Over John donovan in your deep, Feeling please.
Speaker 1: Don't it's look it's already a dreary day here In Eastern.
Speaker 2: Pa, YEAH i just you Remember ocean's eleven or The oceans. Movies,
Speaker 2: yes do you remember Who Basher tar? Was of Course
Speaker 2: Basher tar good character.
Speaker 1: Other than the, ACCENT i would, say, yeah Don shields
Speaker 1: that was No, bino not my, thing but the.
Speaker 2: Character and the performance otherwise were fun, munitions expert explosions
Speaker 2: and there that is when you look at the, staff
Speaker 2: when you look at the, roster it's very difficult to
Speaker 2: see where the munitions and explosivity is going to come.
Speaker 2: From it's you, know their best pass catching option Is Kate,
Speaker 2: otten who's good one of the OTHER i MEAN i
Speaker 2: Mentioned Dadan, widermeier But jaden Or JALEN i always forget
Speaker 2: WHAT i say earlier on in the, show but there
Speaker 2: is It's.
Speaker 1: Jalen excuse.
Speaker 2: Me there is something intriguing about a defense that had,
Speaker 2: playmakers especially upfront and in the second. AREA i really Like,
Speaker 2: Trent trent, McDuffie, wow my names are all over the,
Speaker 2: place AND ztf, upfront But i'm growing concerned about the
Speaker 2: recruiting and this IS i, mean we had this conversation
Speaker 2: about a number of teams in Our Ceiling Best Possible
Speaker 2: scenario show a few weeks, ago but twenty nineteen was
Speaker 2: what it was because of inconsistent play from the, offense
Speaker 2: especially the passing. Game so It's Jacob eeson and his
Speaker 2: receivers and drops and inconsistencies and the games That washington lost
Speaker 2: was it was definitely not a situation Of Jacob eeson
Speaker 2: in a losing, Effort so that's a little bit. Troubling
Speaker 2: BUT i think they're in a different place that they're
Speaker 2: going to try to win with ball, control AND.
Speaker 1: I think they will.
Speaker 2: Solidly so three in, one what does that extrapolate to
Speaker 2: nine and three for a twelve game. SEASON i would
Speaker 2: sell them short of, that BUT i would say it's
Speaker 2: in that direction once. Again SO i don't think they're
Speaker 2: a five hundred program BECAUSE i still think the Talent
Speaker 2: in the short, term at, least we'll see what happens
Speaker 2: with recruiting because it was kind of a disaster last.
Speaker 2: Year aside From Sam, huart the blue chip quarterback coming,
Speaker 2: in just no footprint on The West coast in terms
Speaker 2: of blue Chips, California, Arizona, Utah. Colorado just for whatever,
Speaker 2: Reason Jimmy lake and that recruiting department did not resonate
Speaker 2: with The western. Footprint that's concerning Because washington doesn't have
Speaker 2: to Me oregon, fan so take it with whatever grain
Speaker 2: of salt you. Want they don't have that cachet right,
Speaker 2: Now so long, Term i'm skeptical BUT i think they're
Speaker 2: still going to be above five. HUNDRED i still think
Speaker 2: they're going to be able to pull enough. Talent but
Speaker 2: in the short, TERM i think they are a Comfortable
Speaker 2: bowl team with a not particularly dangerous. Ceiling what is
Speaker 2: your stance On Jimmy?
Speaker 1: Lake can we, like we can obviously look at the
Speaker 1: health of the program and the talent that's on the,
Speaker 1: Roster but as a, coach what do we know about
Speaker 1: him and how do we feel that that affects this?
Speaker 2: DIRECTION i, MEAN i think it's pretty. Incomplete he's been
Speaker 2: a head coach four. GAMES i think you can learn
Speaker 2: about his recruiting a little. Bit but that's also recruiting
Speaker 2: during a pandemic year in which they didn't have visitors on,
Speaker 2: campus official visitors. Anyway so here's what we. Know we
Speaker 2: know that the offense in year zero point two wasn't particularly,
Speaker 2: dynamic but somewhat. Efficient they held on to BEAT i
Speaker 2: Believe utah And stanford sat on their chests for four
Speaker 2: quarters and beat. Them what does that mean big? PICTURE
Speaker 2: i don't. Know they weren't able to play in The
Speaker 2: pac twelve championship, game but the fact Is Jimmy lake
Speaker 2: Had washington in a position if you remove THE covid
Speaker 2: and health and safety protocol element of it to play
Speaker 2: in season one in The pac twelve. Championship, however, backwards
Speaker 2: THE pac twelve seemed all year long with its cancelations
Speaker 2: and movements and. Whatever SO i mean SOLID bb. Plus
Speaker 2: i'd like to see, more especially in terms of recruiting
Speaker 2: offense overall recruiting, level AND i Think Sam hewart could
Speaker 2: potentially covered cover for a lot if he works out
Speaker 2: at quarterback in a year or two whenever it is
Speaker 2: that he steps. In but track record isn't great for
Speaker 2: blue chip quarterbacks From Pacific. NORTHWEST i am extremely cautiously
Speaker 2: optimistic because it feels Like Jimmy lake is building a
Speaker 2: really Nice Boisey state, program looking more diamonds in the
Speaker 2: rough and ball. CONTROL i don't, Know i'm not there,
Speaker 2: yet but definitely closer to a comfortable ball team than
Speaker 2: where they were in twenty.
Speaker 1: Nineteen that's what makes, You. Washington let me Talk, baylor
Speaker 1: let me get let me Get baylor off my. Chest
Speaker 1: baylor goes eleven and three in twenty, nineteen lost two
Speaker 1: close games To oklahoma and then To georgia in The Sugar.
Speaker 1: BOWL i think it was like twenty twenty six to,
Speaker 1: fourteen something like that in the bowl. Game this Was
Speaker 1: Matt rules's final year In waco before he jumped over
Speaker 1: to The Carolina, panthers a hot. Commodity, remember everyone Wanted Matt.
Speaker 1: Rule UNLIKE Nc, state who was just dreadful in terms
Speaker 1: of turnover margin in twenty, Nineteen baylor was on the
Speaker 1: opposite side of. That this is a, team you'll, recall
Speaker 1: that was led by its. Defense they were plus eleven
Speaker 1: in turnover. Ratio so they weren't outstanding on, offense but
Speaker 1: they were really good at creating, opportunity creating those moments
Speaker 1: For Charlie brewer in the offense to capitalize. On and
Speaker 1: they were largely dependent On Charlie brewer in that. Offense
Speaker 1: he was beat, up he wasn't protected, well but the
Speaker 1: offense was good enough with. Him that was a team
Speaker 1: With Jamichael, hasty they had a couple running backs that they.
Speaker 1: Utilize Denzel mims had a really good year out wide
Speaker 1: on that. Squad oh, yeah this is a good enough
Speaker 1: offense to get the job. DONE i know it frustrated
Speaker 1: a lot Of baylor, fans but the expectation the hope
Speaker 1: was that moving forward they'd get better at Protecting, brewer
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be as reliant on, him he would be
Speaker 1: less nicked, up and that they could continue to build
Speaker 1: on that. Success but by large they were led by the.
Speaker 1: Defense the offense is one. Thing there are a lot
Speaker 1: of upperclassmen on that. Defense it was a top twenty
Speaker 1: unit per the sp. Plus that's what enabled them again
Speaker 1: to go eleven to. Three they had a crack At
Speaker 1: oklahoma twice and the first game in particular was very.
Speaker 1: Close they probably should have. Won second one in the
Speaker 1: conference championship they lost as. Well but this is a good.
Speaker 2: Team it was an overtime, game, RIGHT i believe they
Speaker 2: didn't give up more than thirty. POINTS i DON'T i
Speaker 2: think once maybe Against oklahoma that first.
Speaker 1: Time it's a very good, team very good, DEFENSE a
Speaker 1: snow advisory, man very good defense that brings us a twenty.
Speaker 1: Twenty Dan Matt rule. Bolts he goes to THE nfl in,
Speaker 1: Enters Dave, randa please do the voice, now this is your.
Speaker 1: Cue oh, yeah you're, right ty lego. Batman Dave randa
Speaker 1: leads The bears to a two and seven. Season they
Speaker 1: only beat The state Of, kansas both K state And
Speaker 1: kansas they lost to everybody. Else they got absolutely throttled
Speaker 1: By Oklahoma state to close out the. Season this is
Speaker 1: the year the bottom fell out whole new staff For Dave.
Speaker 1: Randa the offense was, brutal just. Terrible they've since parted
Speaker 1: ways With Larry, fedoro who didn't work out at. All,
Speaker 1: Right jeff grime is going to take over from, here Like. Grimey,
Speaker 1: Yeah grimey comes over FROM. Byu he's gonna be the
Speaker 1: new guy for twenty twenty. One but it wasn't just,
Speaker 1: offense you, know the defense slipped as, well not nearly as,
Speaker 1: much but a lot of turnover again twenty, nineteen a
Speaker 1: lot of, upperclassmen oh, yeah twenty. Twenty there was just
Speaker 1: a lot to. Replace so it wasn't an ideal scenario
Speaker 1: For Dave, randa especially given the pandemic and plus they
Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot a. LOT i think that
Speaker 1: above all. Else you, recall as we did a lot
Speaker 1: of our game recaps at the end of the season
Speaker 1: in twenty, TWENTY i would go out to These baylor.
Speaker 1: BLOGS i would listen to the Our Daily bears podcast
Speaker 1: with a, Friend Peter, pope The, pope the Original. Pope,
Speaker 1: yeah the original and they were beside, themselves beside themselves
Speaker 1: because this was a team that felt like it couldn't
Speaker 1: get out of its own way at certain. Times and
Speaker 1: SO i get. THAT i take. THAT i still believe
Speaker 1: That randa's a really good, hire AND i THINK i
Speaker 1: hope one of the takeaways from the twenty twenty season
Speaker 1: is going to be that you just couldn't really take
Speaker 1: it that seriously for some of these schools that saw
Speaker 1: a huge, blip like it's it's, meaningful it's an indicator of,
Speaker 1: something but especially for the schools that had a new,
Speaker 1: coach that that, transition that effect JUST i don't see
Speaker 1: how it could not have been. Exaggerated learning a new,
Speaker 1: system learning new personalities through, zoom like THAT'S i don't,
Speaker 1: know that's no way to.
Speaker 2: Fly, yeah the same thing goes For, jimmy like that's
Speaker 2: sort of the exact game.
Speaker 1: Exactly that's WHY i asked the, question, Frankly SO i
Speaker 1: don't take two and seven all that. SERIOUSLY i get.
Speaker 2: It if you have, to if you can't go in the,
Speaker 2: middle unless you want to say this is your middle,
Speaker 2: PICK i GUESS i think we have to settle a
Speaker 2: middle pick for one of the five when we're, done.
Speaker 1: Which Direction i'm inclined to Go baylor as the middle.
Speaker 1: Pick we can talk it.
Speaker 2: Through, Okay, well do you think shout Out? Waco do
Speaker 2: you think they're a fixer?
Speaker 1: Upper THAT'S i, mean we're really mixing our metaphors, here aren't.
Speaker 1: We it's, Okay it's, okay it's our. Show are you
Speaker 1: Loving baylor or listing? It Does baylor have good? Bones
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work? Out Could Dave randa soon be
Speaker 1: a new house? Hunter this is AN hgtv special right. Now,
Speaker 1: YEAH i apologize with all my. Heart i'm so. Sorry
Speaker 1: do you got a property brothers in? There can we?
Speaker 1: Do is there a spin that we can do?
Speaker 2: This and there were there not two players with the
Speaker 2: same last name two years ago who weren't?
Speaker 1: BROTHERS i believe.
Speaker 2: So, yeah there was a linebacker and a defensive, lineman
Speaker 2: but the names escape. Me, YEAH i think you're, Right.
Speaker 2: TY i don't think The baylor job is an extreme
Speaker 2: makeo Or.
Speaker 1: I'm? Terrible why AM? I?
Speaker 2: OKAY i think middle is fair if that's the one
Speaker 2: we're going to use for all of these five teams, OVERALL.
Speaker 1: I, mean we go back through, it we.
Speaker 2: CAN i think historically you might be more accurate saying
Speaker 2: they're sort of more borderline to. Underwhelming, yeah BUT i,
Speaker 2: yeah that's the Direction i'm actually going to go. In
Speaker 2: not BECAUSE i don't Like, baylor but if you're going
Speaker 2: to force me to Choose New year's six team or big,
Speaker 2: disappointment ALL i have With Dave randa is a year,
Speaker 2: one year, zero and it's understandable that it was a.
Speaker 2: Disappointment so that's the that's the one DIRECTION i will
Speaker 2: go in With. Baylor but if you want to use
Speaker 2: your Z mare And morris middle pick, here you know you.
Speaker 1: CAN'T i just think seven and, five eight and four
Speaker 1: is much more likely than another two and seven or
Speaker 1: even an eleven and. THREE i THINK i think the
Speaker 1: middle feels. Right why don't We why don't we do
Speaker 1: our last? Team you're not fully loving it and you're
Speaker 1: not fully listing. It is what you're telling. Me that's exactly,
Speaker 1: right that's exactly. Right i'm decidedly in the. Middle still
Speaker 1: some curb, appeal a little bit of. Girl this is the.
Speaker 1: Worst this is the worst thing we've, read the worst
Speaker 1: thing we've ever. Done in this. Show, YEAH i. Agree,
Speaker 1: well The milanum game was see you didn't like, that
Speaker 1: but people Were people were truly either loving that or
Speaker 1: listing that there was no it was Like Notre dame.
Speaker 1: Fis people either loved it or they hated its. Guts
Speaker 1: so in the content, business which is what this, is
Speaker 1: that's an okay place to, BE i. Guess so, yeah
Speaker 1: it was our cilantro, Right, okay last team that will
Speaker 1: decide our middle mm, hm who do we? Got you
Speaker 1: got one? Left? Minnesota, yeah Sky.
Speaker 2: Yuma So minnesota had a fascinating couple years just because
Speaker 2: the heights that they saw were in Modern big. Ten
Speaker 2: In minnesota football universes. Unprecedented you, know they, win including
Speaker 2: the bowl game win Over. Auburn they win eleven, games
Speaker 2: they Beat Penn. State they certainly don't Beat iowa And,
Speaker 2: wisconsin but in terms of the spotlight and playing against
Speaker 2: big time teams and, winning So i'm just sort of
Speaker 2: looking At auburn And Penn state in this, Instance minnesota
Speaker 2: football was. Fantastic Now Penn state hires away their offensive,
Speaker 2: coordinator SO i can shoehorn in the name THAT i
Speaker 2: still love to work into the, show even though he's
Speaker 2: now an analyst At West. Virginia Kirk, SHIRAKA.
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the sound. AVAILABLE i
Speaker 1: don't have. THIS i actually deleted it off my. Soundboard
Speaker 1: no hold, on, Sorry, Kirk sorry, SORRY i GUESS i
Speaker 1: have to keep that on now that he is an
Speaker 1: analyst At West.
Speaker 2: Virginia, yeah Anytime West virginia does something good or bad on,
Speaker 2: offense we can, say well maybe.
Speaker 1: Sure, wrong, good glad we can keep that.
Speaker 2: Continue, SO i, mean it's pretty obvious why twenty nineteen
Speaker 2: went so. Well it's everything came together on both sides
Speaker 2: of the. Ball they had all conference caliber players on
Speaker 2: both sides of the. Ball and when you look at especially,
Speaker 2: receiver they had two dudes And Tyler johnson And Rashad
Speaker 2: bateman who popped onlike probably any Other MINNESOTA i think
Speaker 2: they both went over a thousand Yards minnesota receiving. Duo
Speaker 2: and there's just they had a great. Offense Tanner morgan
Speaker 2: was hitting and was, efficient and it was sort of
Speaker 2: a running back by committee because of, HEALTH i, believe
Speaker 2: With Moe ibrahim And Rod.
Speaker 1: Smith Rod, smith.
Speaker 2: They were a really good. Team now you can also
Speaker 2: look at it as, well they snuck by their first four,
Speaker 2: opponents none of whom.
Speaker 1: We're all that, good.
Speaker 2: Right it was a really really low point for An
Speaker 2: illinois team who eventually fired their, coach And nebraska team
Speaker 2: who was disappointing all year, long A rutgers team who
Speaker 2: ended up firing their, coach A maryland team in year
Speaker 2: one of a, coach and A northwestern team who had
Speaker 2: a disastrous offensive. Season and so it was a good
Speaker 2: year to be good In minnesota as a good team
Speaker 2: took advantage nothing they can help with the quality of their,
Speaker 2: opponents but losing To wisconsin the way that they did
Speaker 2: was a little bit. Concerning but even it was a great,
Speaker 2: year and you, know they get edged out By. Iowa
Speaker 2: SO i THINK i came into twenty twenty with high.
Speaker 2: Hopes but the losses on, defense THE covid losses over
Speaker 2: the course of the, year and everybody has, this But
Speaker 2: minnesota was hit particularly hard early, on and these the,
Speaker 2: lose the loss that they had Against, Michigan it's, like,
Speaker 2: well Maybe michigan's. Excellent minnesota is also pretty, Good and
Speaker 2: it turns out those things were. Wrong michigan not so,
Speaker 2: Excellent minnesota not pretty. Good so it largely was because of,
Speaker 2: defense And Tanner morgan took a step back With Mike
Speaker 2: sanford stepping in For Kirk, shrock But Tanner morgan also
Speaker 2: played well at, times and you, know dealing with the
Speaker 2: new guys that they were dealing with the new offensive
Speaker 2: line a lot of the, season it's understandable why they
Speaker 2: would struggle the way that they. Did That maryland loss
Speaker 2: was sort of one in a, million losing in overtime
Speaker 2: on an extra point, Miss like there's there are reasons
Speaker 2: that you can, Say, okay their record was, this but in,
Speaker 2: reality they were, competitive especially on, offense more than they
Speaker 2: get credit. For so, gosh with a three and four
Speaker 2: versus eleven and, two that's a that's a big. Sway
Speaker 2: that's a big swing between those two. Records i'm going
Speaker 2: to say three and four is the one direction For,
Speaker 2: minnesota but that'sctually Where i'm gonna use my. Middle i'm
Speaker 2: going to use my middle BECAUSE i JUST i believe
Speaker 2: IN pj flexibility to get a team consistently to bowl,
Speaker 2: games AND i believe In minnesota as a seven ish
Speaker 2: win team in A big Ten west that's still not crazy.
Speaker 2: Dangerous northwestern is good, again And iowa is always. Good
Speaker 2: And wisconsin should improve over a. DISAPPOINTMENT i just you,
Speaker 2: Know Tanner morgan is somehow back for eleventh, year so that's. Nice,
Speaker 2: YEAH i feel decently. Good they're my fence sitting, team
Speaker 2: just BECAUSE i there's not one singular thing LIKE i
Speaker 2: Figured minnesota would recruit a little bit. Better you look
Speaker 2: at WHAT. Pj fleck was able to do in Getting
Speaker 2: Rashad bateman out Of, georgia finding those. Guys he's still
Speaker 2: in like the eighth best class in The big ten.
Speaker 2: RANGE i would love to see, him you, know if
Speaker 2: there were any way to get him, fifth, sixth, whatever
Speaker 2: that'd be nice in terms of future. Optimism but, YEAH
Speaker 2: i think all in, all there my middle team with
Speaker 2: that one, direction knowing that the bottom was where it
Speaker 2: was this past. Year the direction is more twenty, twenty
Speaker 2: just because giving up forty nine it's week. One it's
Speaker 2: a weird year To michigan giving up what they did
Speaker 2: on the. Ground two are just in all facets To,
Speaker 2: Tullia tungo By low And.
Speaker 1: Maryland it's. Troubling losing To iowa BY i mean they
Speaker 1: just got. Destroyed it was like four or five. Touchdowns
Speaker 1: that's not.
Speaker 2: Great so that's generally WHERE i, stand AND i Think i'm.
Speaker 1: Not super high on The Mike sandford higher. Now right,
Speaker 1: NOW i don't know what about what About? Fleck what About?
Speaker 1: Fleck because there are there are two camps OF. Pj
Speaker 1: fleck observers out. There there are the people who are
Speaker 1: all in well of everything ABOUT. Pj, fleck inject him
Speaker 1: directly into my. Veins there are others who think he's
Speaker 1: The wizard Of oz right all, Flash, yeah where do you?
Speaker 1: STAND i LIKE. Pj.
Speaker 2: FLECK i do BECAUSE i think so much of college
Speaker 2: football is just making eighteen to twenty two year old's
Speaker 2: care and give. Everything and in a year in which
Speaker 2: they could take advantage of a down schedule and a
Speaker 2: bunch of upperclassmen on both sides of the, ball they did.
Speaker 2: So and you don't need to look that far back
Speaker 2: To Tim brewster or some of the depths of The
Speaker 2: Jerry Kill Tracy clay's, era And Glen mason was. Fine
Speaker 2: it was a lot of five hundred.
Speaker 1: ISH i THINK.
Speaker 2: Pj fleck will be better Than Glen mason in the long.
Speaker 2: Term his name continues to come up for big, jobs
Speaker 2: AND i don't know if that's fully warrant. WARRANTED i
Speaker 2: think it's more of the cult of personality and, like,
Speaker 2: oh what could he do with more resources and you,
Speaker 2: know having the personality that he does and the ability
Speaker 2: to generate. Enthusiasm i'm not there in the way THAT
Speaker 2: i was With Matt, ruhle where people were so high
Speaker 2: on my rule because of what he was able to
Speaker 2: do At temple and the way that you, know WHAT.
Speaker 2: Pj fleck was able to do At Western. MICHIGAN i
Speaker 2: thought the results were clearer and longer term With Matt
Speaker 2: rule in terms of turning around programs and reaching new.
Speaker 1: HEIGHTS.
Speaker 2: Pj, Fleck i'm not fully there. Yet i'd like to
Speaker 2: see what he does with whoever takes over After Tanner.
Speaker 2: Morgan i'd like to see how the defense is rebuilt.
Speaker 2: Now he made a really good move when he changed defensive,
Speaker 2: COORDINATORS i believe at the end of twenty, eighteen so
Speaker 2: THAT i did like. That that seemed to have worked
Speaker 2: out for them at least in twenty. Nineteen but, no
Speaker 2: they're my middle. Team they are my if things break,
Speaker 2: right eight and, four if things, don't six and six
Speaker 2: type program right.
Speaker 1: Now so they are your middle, team is what you're
Speaker 1: saying they're my Middle. TEAM i think it's still a fantastic.
Speaker 1: SONG i THINK i found all of an eight bit.
Speaker 2: VERSION i didn't know if you were GOING i don't
Speaker 2: know if you were GOING zed Or Jimmy.
Speaker 1: World now we WENT. Z it was the first thing
Speaker 1: that came. Up, yeah that's. Fair both songs absolute studs of.
Speaker 1: Song you sent me the what was that The New
Speaker 1: York times like creator video for The? Middle, YES i
Speaker 1: could watch every one of those, videos not just for The,
Speaker 1: middle every single one of. THEM i love.
Speaker 2: Them how producers and, artists, singers songwriters put together. Songs you,
Speaker 2: Know New York times as, It Rolling stone, GENIUS i,
Speaker 2: know does. It they're all. Fascinating they're all. Phenomenal and,
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm with. YOU i can't get. Enough and that song,
Speaker 2: specifically it's a great. Song And Maren morris country, singer
Speaker 2: right country.
Speaker 1: Singer, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: And that was more of a dance electro Pop i'm so.
Speaker 2: Old and The Jimmy world version is also. Fantastic do
Speaker 2: you remember the music video for The Jimmy world version
Speaker 2: of The. Middle it was very strange in.
Speaker 1: Retrospect it's A i don't THINK i do actually it's
Speaker 1: a bunch of kids in their underwear at like a
Speaker 1: high school. Party oh, yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah and there's like an outcast kid who's wearing clothes
Speaker 2: and he goes To it's JUST i rewatched it this
Speaker 2: morning and it was very.
Speaker 1: Strange Jimmy world is at the, party, though so that's.
Speaker 1: Cool CAN i give you a hot take? Here i'm.
Speaker 1: Ready i'm not SURE i really get why music videos
Speaker 1: or even a.
Speaker 2: THING i think it WAS mtv and that was, like
Speaker 2: it was such an incredible way to build a visual
Speaker 2: brand to go along with what especially kids would hear
Speaker 2: on the, radio.
Speaker 1: So you're more.
Speaker 2: Invested you See Jimmy world and you're, like, OH i
Speaker 2: want to see them, live, Right you see them, playing
Speaker 2: you see them in the, studio you see them On letterman.
Speaker 2: Whatever then you get this creative. ELEMENT i also think
Speaker 2: record labels had so much money because CDs cost eighteen
Speaker 2: dollars a, piece and they thought to, themselves why don't
Speaker 2: we just make three minute mini movies and pay future
Speaker 2: movie directors who were twenty seven to direct a three
Speaker 2: minute music video and get it ON mtv and be you,
Speaker 2: know if a music, video especially, pops it'll get ON.
Speaker 2: Mtv if the song is especially, hooky it'll get ON
Speaker 2: mtv and every you know human under nineteen In america
Speaker 2: was WATCHING trl way back.
Speaker 1: When, yeah so it was like this incredible promotional. TOOL i.
Speaker 1: THINK i, mean you WATCHED mtv and music, videos didn't
Speaker 1: you GOG? Trl? Yeah? Yeah, yeah oh.
Speaker 2: YEAH i worked for one of like the absolute like
Speaker 2: blue chip directors of music videos in that. Era he
Speaker 2: directed like Popa roach And blaquinity two And Weezer Marco.
Speaker 2: SIEGA i was an. Intern that was my first job
Speaker 2: out of. COLLEGE i was an intern for his production.
Speaker 2: Company it was pretty.
Speaker 1: Fun all. Right, well my middle team, is, Uh. Baylor
Speaker 1: i'm gonna Go. Baylor i'll stick With. BAYLOR i think
Speaker 1: they're probably closer to seven to, five eight and four
Speaker 1: over the long, haul maybe squeeze in a nine or
Speaker 1: ten win season here or, there but definitely not a
Speaker 1: two and seven. TEAM i don't buy. That not With Dave.
Speaker 1: RANDA i still have a lot of faith In Lego.
Speaker 1: Batman good, movie by the, Way yeah not. Bad, okay real,
Speaker 1: QUICK i JUST i have to do. This i'm not
Speaker 1: even gonna grit a, chance And i'm not gonna let
Speaker 1: it play because a circumstance here in The Pat league
Speaker 1: has degraded to the point THAT i the schedule is
Speaker 1: so fed up right now that they've Got lafayette playing
Speaker 1: two games this weekend And bucknell playing two games this.
Speaker 1: WEEKEND i think EVERY i think everything was postponed last. Week,
Speaker 1: ah and so NOW i See lafayette Against, Bucknell bucknell Against,
Speaker 1: lehigh And lafayette Against.
Speaker 2: Fordham it's an old fashioned. Doubleheader Bob ucker on the. Call,
Speaker 2: YEAH i have no idea what's.
Speaker 1: HAPPENING i hope everyone is healthy and not, sick and
Speaker 1: somebody from one of those schools is going to have
Speaker 1: to write In soliverble at gmail dot com let me
Speaker 1: know what the heck's going. ON i really want to
Speaker 1: steer into the spring football version of The Pat, league but,
Speaker 1: HONESTLY i feel like at this, point the SECOND i say,
Speaker 1: it it's going to be. Obsolete So i'm not doing.
Speaker 1: It not Doing i'm not putting who's actually. PLAYING i don't.
Speaker 1: KNOW i have no, idea is my.
Speaker 2: Point i'm on The Pat league's site right, now so
Speaker 2: tomorrow or this weekend is the twenty, seventh.
Speaker 1: Twenty, yeah twenty, Seventh So i'm.
Speaker 2: Seeing Buck, Now lehigh Postponed Holy, Cross colgate Postponed Lafayette
Speaker 2: fordham In New, York New, york which is a very
Speaker 2: conflicting emotional matchup for me And lafayette Buck now four Pm. Lewisburg,
Speaker 2: now how you remember how the criticism of twenty four
Speaker 2: to people in Southern california was? Trick my, Dude jack
Speaker 2: is driving From chatsworth To eskundido in thirty, minutes which
Speaker 2: averages out to two hundred and ninety three miles an.
Speaker 2: Hour so If lafayette And fordham at one Pm eastern
Speaker 2: play an absolute nothing but runs and they finished the
Speaker 2: five minute, halftime you, know wolf down some orange slices
Speaker 2: and granola bars and they finished the game in two?
Speaker 2: Hours is it possible with light? TRAFFIC i want to
Speaker 2: have you up With Google.
Speaker 1: Maps, yeah is it?
Speaker 2: Possible OR i guess one of your your chosen app
Speaker 2: on your phone to get from The bronx to Beautiful, LOUISBOURG.
Speaker 1: Pa there is no. Chance there is no. Chance oh,
Speaker 1: Here i'll put it In, LOUISBOURG pa to The. Bronx
Speaker 1: do it at.
Speaker 2: Like three in the. Morning like if you know you
Speaker 2: can change the time of, journey.
Speaker 1: There's there's just no. Way so empty, Streets, Bronx New. York,
Speaker 1: Okay bronx depart at the part at here we go
Speaker 1: to part at three. Am, yep three and a half,
Speaker 1: hours three and a. Half there's no way you would
Speaker 1: need The Jack bauer. Car how.
Speaker 2: LONG i guess you could get there if there were
Speaker 2: a plane, somewhere you, Know westchester somewhere up.
Speaker 1: There does Does lewis have an? Airport i'm sure you,
Speaker 1: know flying To, mifflinburg flying To, williamsport flying To.
Speaker 2: Williamsport williamsport's pretty. Close land on the Baseball. Diamond, okay
Speaker 2: so that you could.
Speaker 1: Do but, otherwise, no there's no chance you could drive.
Speaker 2: IT i guess you could split the. Difference we talked
Speaker 2: about this when we were trying to figure out the
Speaker 2: season and just go To East Stroudsburg high, Right James Franklin,
Speaker 2: territory you could you could.
Speaker 1: Go In James Franklin territory and with the, difference So
Speaker 1: East stroudsburg about a buck forty five in The. Bronx,
Speaker 1: yeah you could go up. There, yes maybe that's what
Speaker 1: it's going to.
Speaker 2: Do it's Basically lafayette taking on all comers In East.
Speaker 1: Stroudsburg, Okay i'd. Watch so we have to depart here
Speaker 1: at about five minutes because you're doing a pizza. Contest
Speaker 1: can you please detail. THAT i need to know more
Speaker 1: about this and what your strategy is my pizza. CONTEST
Speaker 1: i got to run downstairs in a. Minute Here.
Speaker 2: Jody's aunt said called me up and, said, hey can
Speaker 2: you bring over like three or four? Pizzas we want
Speaker 2: to have a contest Because jody's cousins From atlanta are
Speaker 2: up in The Chicago land area and one of her
Speaker 2: cousins loves a local place and wants to compare the
Speaker 2: local place in local style to my. Pizzas and there
Speaker 2: are going to BE i don't know ten people or
Speaker 2: so eating pizza and. Judging and so Now i'm under.
Speaker 2: PRESSURE i can only make one pizza at a, time
Speaker 2: SO i have to figure out how to rewarm things
Speaker 2: up before stuffing a two year old and a month
Speaker 2: old into a, car keep the pizzas warm in the,
Speaker 2: car and get it served to people at a reasonable.
Speaker 1: Temperature. There, so what is the format of said? Contests
Speaker 1: is there a blind taste test or anything like? THAT
Speaker 1: i don't think.
Speaker 2: SO i think it's going to be very obvious because
Speaker 2: my slices are more traditional triangles and these are more
Speaker 2: bar cut in the, squares the thin, squares so it'll
Speaker 2: be very clear which pie is. Which AND i think
Speaker 2: there's maybe a corn meal element to the dough of
Speaker 2: the local, place so very different. STYLES i don't know
Speaker 2: what the actual format, is But i'm making two plain,
Speaker 2: pizzas so just, tomato, sauce cheese and some seasoning and,
Speaker 2: basil And i'm going to do a straight pep and
Speaker 2: Then i'm going to go with a wild card pep
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Speaker 1: WIN i will be actually, yeah, yeah, SEE i know,
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Speaker 2: Blah they can pay four they can make multiple pizzas
Speaker 2: at a, time one at a, time And i'm, reheating
Speaker 2: so this is not indicative of my true. Quality, yeah,
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm gonna throw a.
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Speaker 2: i want to make pizza FOR i, Mean i'll make
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