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Speaker 1: Edo steak? Is that woof? Woof? And then and Tye,

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Speaker 1: welcome back to the solid verbal boys and girls. My

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Speaker 1: name is ty Hildebrandt. I am joined as always by

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Speaker 1: the illustrious Dan Rubinstein in the Chicago Burbs. Sir, thank you,

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm not bad.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you have a strategy for hurry up,

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Speaker 2: no huddle showers when you look at the clock and

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Speaker 2: you're like, I have three minutes, I have ninety seconds.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if you go soap before shampoo, if

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Speaker 2: you're soaping, shampoo and conditioning. I don't know if you've

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Speaker 2: got like I'm going to put shampoo in my hair

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Speaker 2: and then soap my body and then rinse all off

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Speaker 2: at the same time for efficiency's sake. But I just

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Speaker 2: thought about that a lot as I took a two

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Speaker 1: How are you? I'm well. I did not have that

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Speaker 1: hurry up, no huddle experience before hitting the record button today,

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Speaker 1: so perhaps i'm a little bit more composed.

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Speaker 2: But you've certainly taken last minute showers. Oh, your time

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Speaker 1: I usually try to work my way from top to

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Speaker 2: Yeah, sometimes it's not about cleanliness of body, it's about

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Speaker 2: cleanliness of mind. And with that, hello everybody. I don't

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Speaker 2: really have a smooth transition from cleaning one's body, probably

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Speaker 2: more often than I should, but that's what a newborn does.

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Speaker 2: Tie You're like, well, I didn't exercise today for two

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Speaker 2: three straight days. I don't have a smooth transition. But

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Speaker 2: we've been wanting to do this show for a little bit,

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Speaker 2: and I think it's a really good way to touch

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Speaker 2: on teams across college football. Today we're doing power five.

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Speaker 2: I'd like I have an idea percolating for a group

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Speaker 2: I guess we're calling one direction with a caveat called

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Speaker 2: the middle.

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Speaker 1: The middle. Yeah, we've got a little bit of everything

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Speaker 1: going on here, don't we Yeah, yes, we'll get to

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Speaker 1: One direction is the name of the show, Sing it Dan?

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Speaker 1: Do you know the lyrics? Honey? Else? That's what makes you.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me to talk about that and whatever he's been

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Speaker 1: title Dan. As he said at the top, we've been

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Speaker 2: And there is still something about the SEC West that

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Speaker 2: What is Mississippi State going to look like as Mike

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Speaker 2: Leach transforms the place. We know Arkansas improved, we know

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Speaker 2: LSU should be heading in the right direction. Alabama was

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Speaker 2: a monster, but at the same time A and M's

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Speaker 2: I don't know if they're betting comes in an Alabama

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Speaker 1: The interesting thing about I'm looking at A and M's

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Speaker 1: twenty twenty one schedule, and if any college football fan

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Speaker 1: all go to look at schedules, they've got listed out

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Speaker 1: here all of the upcoming games, starting with the spring

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Speaker 1: game on April the seventeenth. The Maroon and White spring

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Speaker 1: game may legit be the toughest non conference game on

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Speaker 1: play any golias. Obviously, they've got to play an SEC

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Speaker 1: enough around them, and Jimbo Fisher has done this before.

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Speaker 1: They were in contention. You could say that with kind

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Speaker 1: I guess they're in cons where we're coming from. But

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Speaker 1: they were a top ten team, Yeah, they were top

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Speaker 1: he was solid. I'm curious to see if the next

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Speaker 2: The Florida win was very impressive in hindsight. Arkansas moved

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Speaker 1: We feel like the one direction, the one direction for

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Speaker 2: Like you got a little bit happy and you had

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Speaker 1: I'm not going to profess to like hearing them on

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Speaker 1: Like it wasn't it. They didn't have that draw for me.

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Speaker 2: If they can generate more big plays downfield, because that's

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Speaker 1: Can you know how many members I'm going all over

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Speaker 1: There was Harry Styles for sure. There was Liam something okay,

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Speaker 1: was there a Liam? There was a Liam? Okay, Liam Payne,

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Speaker 1: NC State? Dan, I love this? Okay, NC State the

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Speaker 1: They were dreadful. They beat East Carolina, West Carolina, Ball State,

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Speaker 1: BECK i don't think that's ever going to. Change but

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Speaker 1: the offense was, better it, improved it was. Better it

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Speaker 1: this past. Season they didn't really beat anyone THAT i

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Speaker 1: would say was that. Terrific they edged Both pit And

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Speaker 2: Point, WELL i, MEAN i think Beating, virginia Beating, liberty

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Speaker 2: beating you, said What, Pit Pitt, bike those are all.

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Speaker 2: Solid that was a weird, game That PIT Nc state.

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Speaker 1: Up on the. Staff you had fewer of these like

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Speaker 1: assistant offensive coordinators or passing game coordinators or. Whatever on

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Speaker 1: he still throws too many, interceptions but all of their

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Speaker 1: completion percentages got. Better SO i think in conjunction with

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Speaker 1: Nineteen they're a year older in twenty. Twenty goofy. Year

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Speaker 1: we've already acknowledged that a million. Times but they got better.

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Speaker 1: Defensively they also got better AND i would say above

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Speaker 1: twenty nineteen was a. Blip if you look At Dave,

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Speaker 1: dorian he had one bad season when he started AT Nc,

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Speaker 2: At Mississippi, state At Boston college At, miami At Florida

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Speaker 2: state At wake not a HORRIBLE i, know they Get

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Speaker 2: clemson In North, carolina but in terms of a road,

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Speaker 2: schedule you, KNOW i THINK Nc state is squarely still

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Speaker 2: like The Turkey club of THE, acc always, solid very

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Speaker 1: Years so, YEAH i THINK i. AGREE i. Agree where

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Speaker 1: do you want to go? Next? NEXT i want to

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Speaker 1: go To, Washington, Dan, yeah the alma mater of your,

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Speaker 1: brother that's, true the hated rival of Your Oregon ducks one.

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Speaker 1: School we used to Call Jake forest for obvious, reasons a.

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Speaker 1: Quarterback But washington's in an interesting spot Because Chris peterson,

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Speaker 1: he's doing, now turns it over To Jimmy lake promotion from,

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Speaker 1: within a lot of folks feel good About Jimmy. Lake

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Speaker 1: for Where washington's at because they only play like four

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Speaker 2: INDICATOR i think we can use it as sort of a.

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Speaker 2: PROLOGUE i think there are elements that makes sense to

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Speaker 2: but not necessarily a. Referendum washington is interesting Because Jimmy

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Speaker 2: lake is a bigger personality and was a great defensive

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Speaker 2: to the playoff With Jimmy. Lake and it still may

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Speaker 2: happen on the. Field on, offense you, know they they

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Speaker 2: Start Dylan morris and he's, fine, efficient but they you,

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Speaker 2: know they're not great at. Receiver they lose a couple

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Speaker 2: Well and the thing that concerns, me and we don't

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Speaker 2: need to go Over John donovan in your deep, Feeling please.

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Speaker 1: Don't it's look it's already a dreary day here In Eastern.

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Speaker 2: Pa, YEAH i just you Remember ocean's eleven or The oceans. Movies,

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Speaker 2: yes do you remember Who Basher tar? Was of Course

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Speaker 1: Other than the, ACCENT i would, say, yeah Don shields

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Speaker 2: Character and the performance otherwise were fun, munitions expert explosions

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Speaker 2: and there that is when you look at the, staff

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Speaker 2: From it's you, know their best pass catching option Is Kate,

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Speaker 2: Mentioned Dadan, widermeier But jaden Or JALEN i always forget

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Speaker 2: WHAT i say earlier on in the, show but there

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Speaker 1: Jalen excuse.

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Speaker 2: Me there is something intriguing about a defense that had,

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Speaker 2: playmakers especially upfront and in the second. AREA i really Like,

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Speaker 2: Trent trent, McDuffie, wow my names are all over the,

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Speaker 2: place AND ztf, upfront But i'm growing concerned about the

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Speaker 2: about a number of teams in Our Ceiling Best Possible

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Speaker 2: scenario show a few weeks, ago but twenty nineteen was

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Speaker 2: what it was because of inconsistent play from the, offense

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Speaker 2: especially the passing. Game so It's Jacob eeson and his

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Speaker 2: receivers and drops and inconsistencies and the games That washington lost

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Speaker 2: was it was definitely not a situation Of Jacob eeson

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Speaker 2: BUT i think they're in a different place that they're

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Speaker 1: I think they will.

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Speaker 2: Solidly so three in, one what does that extrapolate to

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Speaker 2: nine and three for a twelve game. SEASON i would

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Speaker 2: sell them short of, that BUT i would say it's

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Speaker 2: a five hundred program BECAUSE i still think the Talent

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Speaker 2: in the short, term at, least we'll see what happens

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Speaker 2: with recruiting because it was kind of a disaster last.

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Speaker 2: Year aside From Sam, huart the blue chip quarterback coming,

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Speaker 2: in just no footprint on The West coast in terms

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Speaker 2: of blue Chips, California, Arizona, Utah. Colorado just for whatever,

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Speaker 2: Reason Jimmy lake and that recruiting department did not resonate

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Speaker 2: with The western. Footprint that's concerning Because washington doesn't have

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Speaker 2: to Me oregon, fan so take it with whatever grain

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Speaker 2: of salt you. Want they don't have that cachet right,

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Speaker 2: Now so long, Term i'm skeptical BUT i think they're

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Speaker 2: they're going to be able to pull enough. Talent but

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Speaker 2: in the short, TERM i think they are a Comfortable

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Speaker 2: bowl team with a not particularly dangerous. Ceiling what is

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Speaker 2: your stance On Jimmy?

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Speaker 1: Lake can we, like we can obviously look at the

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Speaker 1: health of the program and the talent that's on the,

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Speaker 1: him and how do we feel that that affects this?

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Speaker 2: DIRECTION i, MEAN i think it's pretty. Incomplete he's been

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Speaker 2: during a pandemic year in which they didn't have visitors on,

429
00:24:41,760 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 2: campus official visitors. Anyway so here's what we. Know we

430
00:24:45,680 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 2: know that the offense in year zero point two wasn't particularly,

431
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:52,679
Speaker 2: dynamic but somewhat. Efficient they held on to BEAT i

432
00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 2: Believe utah And stanford sat on their chests for four

433
00:24:57,560 --> 00:25:01,159
Speaker 2: quarters and beat. Them what does that mean big? PICTURE

434
00:25:01,280 --> 00:25:02,600
Speaker 2: i don't. Know they weren't able to play in The

435
00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:06,040
Speaker 2: pac twelve championship, game but the fact Is Jimmy lake

436
00:25:06,080 --> 00:25:10,080
Speaker 2: Had washington in a position if you remove THE covid

437
00:25:10,119 --> 00:25:12,520
Speaker 2: and health and safety protocol element of it to play

438
00:25:12,720 --> 00:25:16,399
Speaker 2: in season one in The pac twelve. Championship, however, backwards

439
00:25:16,480 --> 00:25:19,480
Speaker 2: THE pac twelve seemed all year long with its cancelations

440
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: and movements and. Whatever SO i mean SOLID bb. Plus

441
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: i'd like to see, more especially in terms of recruiting

442
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: offense overall recruiting, level AND i Think Sam hewart could

443
00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,080
Speaker 2: potentially covered cover for a lot if he works out

444
00:25:39,240 --> 00:25:41,520
Speaker 2: at quarterback in a year or two whenever it is

445
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,639
Speaker 2: that he steps. In but track record isn't great for

446
00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:52,000
Speaker 2: blue chip quarterbacks From Pacific. NORTHWEST i am extremely cautiously

447
00:25:52,280 --> 00:25:55,000
Speaker 2: optimistic because it feels Like Jimmy lake is building a

448
00:25:55,040 --> 00:25:59,159
Speaker 2: really Nice Boisey state, program looking more diamonds in the

449
00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 2: rough and ball. CONTROL i don't, Know i'm not there,

450
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,399
Speaker 2: yet but definitely closer to a comfortable ball team than

451
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:07,160
Speaker 2: where they were in twenty.

452
00:26:07,280 --> 00:26:11,760
Speaker 1: Nineteen that's what makes, You. Washington let me Talk, baylor

453
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:13,760
Speaker 1: let me get let me Get baylor off my. Chest

454
00:26:15,160 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 1: baylor goes eleven and three in twenty, nineteen lost two

455
00:26:20,600 --> 00:26:23,720
Speaker 1: close games To oklahoma and then To georgia in The Sugar.

456
00:26:23,760 --> 00:26:26,399
Speaker 1: BOWL i think it was like twenty twenty six to,

457
00:26:26,440 --> 00:26:29,680
Speaker 1: fourteen something like that in the bowl. Game this Was

458
00:26:29,720 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 1: Matt rules's final year In waco before he jumped over

459
00:26:32,760 --> 00:26:36,040
Speaker 1: to The Carolina, panthers a hot. Commodity, remember everyone Wanted Matt.

460
00:26:36,119 --> 00:26:43,040
Speaker 1: Rule UNLIKE Nc, state who was just dreadful in terms

461
00:26:43,200 --> 00:26:46,560
Speaker 1: of turnover margin in twenty, Nineteen baylor was on the

462
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 1: opposite side of. That this is a, team you'll, recall

463
00:26:49,560 --> 00:26:52,560
Speaker 1: that was led by its. Defense they were plus eleven

464
00:26:52,880 --> 00:26:57,199
Speaker 1: in turnover. Ratio so they weren't outstanding on, offense but

465
00:26:57,240 --> 00:27:01,400
Speaker 1: they were really good at creating, opportunity creating those moments

466
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:05,000
Speaker 1: For Charlie brewer in the offense to capitalize. On and

467
00:27:05,040 --> 00:27:08,280
Speaker 1: they were largely dependent On Charlie brewer in that. Offense

468
00:27:08,320 --> 00:27:11,320
Speaker 1: he was beat, up he wasn't protected, well but the

469
00:27:11,359 --> 00:27:14,400
Speaker 1: offense was good enough with. Him that was a team

470
00:27:14,400 --> 00:27:16,679
Speaker 1: With Jamichael, hasty they had a couple running backs that they.

471
00:27:16,800 --> 00:27:20,200
Speaker 1: Utilize Denzel mims had a really good year out wide

472
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,960
Speaker 1: on that. Squad oh, yeah this is a good enough

473
00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:25,359
Speaker 1: offense to get the job. DONE i know it frustrated

474
00:27:25,359 --> 00:27:28,760
Speaker 1: a lot Of baylor, fans but the expectation the hope

475
00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:31,200
Speaker 1: was that moving forward they'd get better at Protecting, brewer

476
00:27:31,240 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 1: they wouldn't be as reliant on, him he would be

477
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,399
Speaker 1: less nicked, up and that they could continue to build

478
00:27:36,440 --> 00:27:39,560
Speaker 1: on that. Success but by large they were led by the.

479
00:27:39,600 --> 00:27:42,080
Speaker 1: Defense the offense is one. Thing there are a lot

480
00:27:42,119 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 1: of upperclassmen on that. Defense it was a top twenty

481
00:27:45,080 --> 00:27:48,200
Speaker 1: unit per the sp. Plus that's what enabled them again

482
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,160
Speaker 1: to go eleven to. Three they had a crack At

483
00:27:51,200 --> 00:27:55,200
Speaker 1: oklahoma twice and the first game in particular was very.

484
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:57,800
Speaker 1: Close they probably should have. Won second one in the

485
00:27:57,800 --> 00:28:00,680
Speaker 1: conference championship they lost as. Well but this is a good.

486
00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:03,959
Speaker 2: Team it was an overtime, game, RIGHT i believe they

487
00:28:04,000 --> 00:28:06,399
Speaker 2: didn't give up more than thirty. POINTS i DON'T i

488
00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,120
Speaker 2: think once maybe Against oklahoma that first.

489
00:28:09,119 --> 00:28:11,960
Speaker 1: Time it's a very good, team very good, DEFENSE a

490
00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:17,480
Speaker 1: snow advisory, man very good defense that brings us a twenty.

491
00:28:17,520 --> 00:28:23,479
Speaker 1: Twenty Dan Matt rule. Bolts he goes to THE nfl in,

492
00:28:23,880 --> 00:28:26,719
Speaker 1: Enters Dave, randa please do the voice, now this is your.

493
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:32,040
Speaker 1: Cue oh, yeah you're, right ty lego. Batman Dave randa

494
00:28:33,840 --> 00:28:37,760
Speaker 1: leads The bears to a two and seven. Season they

495
00:28:37,840 --> 00:28:40,240
Speaker 1: only beat The state Of, kansas both K state And

496
00:28:40,320 --> 00:28:44,560
Speaker 1: kansas they lost to everybody. Else they got absolutely throttled

497
00:28:45,240 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 1: By Oklahoma state to close out the. Season this is

498
00:28:48,960 --> 00:28:52,200
Speaker 1: the year the bottom fell out whole new staff For Dave.

499
00:28:52,320 --> 00:28:57,240
Speaker 1: Randa the offense was, brutal just. Terrible they've since parted

500
00:28:57,280 --> 00:28:59,840
Speaker 1: ways With Larry, fedoro who didn't work out at. All,

501
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: Right jeff grime is going to take over from, here Like. Grimey,

502
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:05,880
Speaker 1: Yeah grimey comes over FROM. Byu he's gonna be the

503
00:29:05,880 --> 00:29:08,720
Speaker 1: new guy for twenty twenty. One but it wasn't just,

504
00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: offense you, know the defense slipped as, well not nearly as,

505
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,200
Speaker 1: much but a lot of turnover again twenty, nineteen a

506
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:19,160
Speaker 1: lot of, upperclassmen oh, yeah twenty. Twenty there was just

507
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:21,840
Speaker 1: a lot to. Replace so it wasn't an ideal scenario

508
00:29:23,160 --> 00:29:28,360
Speaker 1: For Dave, randa especially given the pandemic and plus they

509
00:29:28,400 --> 00:29:30,640
Speaker 1: shot themselves in the foot a. LOT i think that

510
00:29:30,720 --> 00:29:33,280
Speaker 1: above all. Else you, recall as we did a lot

511
00:29:33,320 --> 00:29:36,040
Speaker 1: of our game recaps at the end of the season

512
00:29:36,080 --> 00:29:39,160
Speaker 1: in twenty, TWENTY i would go out to These baylor.

513
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:43,520
Speaker 1: BLOGS i would listen to the Our Daily bears podcast

514
00:29:43,560 --> 00:29:46,760
Speaker 1: with a, Friend Peter, pope The, pope the Original. Pope,

515
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:52,360
Speaker 1: yeah the original and they were beside, themselves beside themselves

516
00:29:52,400 --> 00:29:54,240
Speaker 1: because this was a team that felt like it couldn't

517
00:29:54,240 --> 00:29:56,720
Speaker 1: get out of its own way at certain. Times and

518
00:29:58,160 --> 00:30:02,160
Speaker 1: SO i get. THAT i take. THAT i still believe

519
00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:07,240
Speaker 1: That randa's a really good, hire AND i THINK i

520
00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:11,000
Speaker 1: hope one of the takeaways from the twenty twenty season

521
00:30:11,080 --> 00:30:13,000
Speaker 1: is going to be that you just couldn't really take

522
00:30:13,000 --> 00:30:15,920
Speaker 1: it that seriously for some of these schools that saw

523
00:30:15,960 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 1: a huge, blip like it's it's, meaningful it's an indicator of,

524
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:25,080
Speaker 1: something but especially for the schools that had a new,

525
00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:30,600
Speaker 1: coach that that, transition that effect JUST i don't see

526
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:35,000
Speaker 1: how it could not have been. Exaggerated learning a new,

527
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: system learning new personalities through, zoom like THAT'S i don't,

528
00:30:39,120 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 1: know that's no way to.

529
00:30:39,840 --> 00:30:42,920
Speaker 2: Fly, yeah the same thing goes For, jimmy like that's

530
00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:43,800
Speaker 2: sort of the exact game.

531
00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: Exactly that's WHY i asked the, question, Frankly SO i

532
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:52,960
Speaker 1: don't take two and seven all that. SERIOUSLY i get.

533
00:30:53,000 --> 00:30:55,360
Speaker 2: It if you have, to if you can't go in the,

534
00:30:55,400 --> 00:30:57,200
Speaker 2: middle unless you want to say this is your middle,

535
00:30:57,240 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: PICK i GUESS i think we have to settle a

536
00:31:00,160 --> 00:31:05,400
Speaker 2: middle pick for one of the five when we're, done.

537
00:31:05,720 --> 00:31:09,840
Speaker 1: Which Direction i'm inclined to Go baylor as the middle.

538
00:31:09,920 --> 00:31:11,920
Speaker 1: Pick we can talk it.

539
00:31:11,960 --> 00:31:15,320
Speaker 2: Through, Okay, well do you think shout Out? Waco do

540
00:31:15,320 --> 00:31:16,160
Speaker 2: you think they're a fixer?

541
00:31:16,280 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 1: Upper THAT'S i, mean we're really mixing our metaphors, here aren't.

542
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 1: We it's, Okay it's, okay it's our. Show are you

543
00:31:23,000 --> 00:31:30,480
Speaker 1: Loving baylor or listing? It Does baylor have good? Bones

544
00:31:32,880 --> 00:31:35,520
Speaker 1: if it doesn't work? Out Could Dave randa soon be

545
00:31:36,240 --> 00:31:41,760
Speaker 1: a new house? Hunter this is AN hgtv special right. Now,

546
00:31:42,440 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 1: YEAH i apologize with all my. Heart i'm so. Sorry

547
00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:46,520
Speaker 1: do you got a property brothers in? There can we?

548
00:31:46,560 --> 00:31:48,440
Speaker 1: Do is there a spin that we can do?

549
00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:51,840
Speaker 2: This and there were there not two players with the

550
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,120
Speaker 2: same last name two years ago who weren't?

551
00:31:54,120 --> 00:31:55,360
Speaker 1: BROTHERS i believe.

552
00:31:55,400 --> 00:31:58,040
Speaker 2: So, yeah there was a linebacker and a defensive, lineman

553
00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:01,480
Speaker 2: but the names escape. Me, YEAH i think you're, Right.

554
00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:04,800
Speaker 2: TY i don't think The baylor job is an extreme

555
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:05,520
Speaker 2: makeo Or.

556
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:11,600
Speaker 1: I'm? Terrible why AM? I?

557
00:32:12,280 --> 00:32:17,680
Speaker 2: OKAY i think middle is fair if that's the one

558
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,560
Speaker 2: we're going to use for all of these five teams, OVERALL.

559
00:32:21,880 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: I, mean we go back through, it we.

560
00:32:24,080 --> 00:32:27,800
Speaker 2: CAN i think historically you might be more accurate saying

561
00:32:27,840 --> 00:32:34,160
Speaker 2: they're sort of more borderline to. Underwhelming, yeah BUT i,

562
00:32:34,280 --> 00:32:35,960
Speaker 2: yeah that's the Direction i'm actually going to go. In

563
00:32:36,040 --> 00:32:37,400
Speaker 2: not BECAUSE i don't Like, baylor but if you're going

564
00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:41,360
Speaker 2: to force me to Choose New year's six team or big,

565
00:32:41,400 --> 00:32:44,560
Speaker 2: disappointment ALL i have With Dave randa is a year,

566
00:32:44,600 --> 00:32:47,040
Speaker 2: one year, zero and it's understandable that it was a.

567
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 2: Disappointment so that's the that's the one DIRECTION i will

568
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,080
Speaker 2: go in With. Baylor but if you want to use

569
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:55,320
Speaker 2: your Z mare And morris middle pick, here you know you.

570
00:32:55,360 --> 00:32:59,120
Speaker 1: CAN'T i just think seven and, five eight and four

571
00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:03,160
Speaker 1: is much more likely than another two and seven or

572
00:33:03,200 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 1: even an eleven and. THREE i THINK i think the

573
00:33:06,440 --> 00:33:08,360
Speaker 1: middle feels. Right why don't We why don't we do

574
00:33:08,440 --> 00:33:11,160
Speaker 1: our last? Team you're not fully loving it and you're

575
00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,719
Speaker 1: not fully listing. It is what you're telling. Me that's exactly,

576
00:33:13,800 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 1: right that's exactly. Right i'm decidedly in the. Middle still

577
00:33:17,080 --> 00:33:20,800
Speaker 1: some curb, appeal a little bit of. Girl this is the.

578
00:33:20,800 --> 00:33:23,680
Speaker 1: Worst this is the worst thing we've, read the worst

579
00:33:23,680 --> 00:33:26,480
Speaker 1: thing we've ever. Done in this. Show, YEAH i. Agree,

580
00:33:26,640 --> 00:33:31,320
Speaker 1: well The milanum game was see you didn't like, that

581
00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:36,400
Speaker 1: but people Were people were truly either loving that or

582
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:39,880
Speaker 1: listing that there was no it was Like Notre dame.

583
00:33:39,920 --> 00:33:44,120
Speaker 1: Fis people either loved it or they hated its. Guts

584
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:47,840
Speaker 1: so in the content, business which is what this, is

585
00:33:48,960 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 1: that's an okay place to, BE i. Guess so, yeah

586
00:33:51,720 --> 00:33:55,440
Speaker 1: it was our cilantro, Right, okay last team that will

587
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,840
Speaker 1: decide our middle mm, hm who do we? Got you

588
00:33:58,840 --> 00:34:03,520
Speaker 1: got one? Left? Minnesota, yeah Sky.

589
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:08,560
Speaker 2: Yuma So minnesota had a fascinating couple years just because

590
00:34:08,880 --> 00:34:12,879
Speaker 2: the heights that they saw were in Modern big. Ten

591
00:34:12,920 --> 00:34:17,680
Speaker 2: In minnesota football universes. Unprecedented you, know they, win including

592
00:34:17,719 --> 00:34:20,000
Speaker 2: the bowl game win Over. Auburn they win eleven, games

593
00:34:21,160 --> 00:34:25,759
Speaker 2: they Beat Penn. State they certainly don't Beat iowa And,

594
00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:31,280
Speaker 2: wisconsin but in terms of the spotlight and playing against

595
00:34:31,360 --> 00:34:33,759
Speaker 2: big time teams and, winning So i'm just sort of

596
00:34:33,800 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: looking At auburn And Penn state in this, Instance minnesota

597
00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:40,640
Speaker 2: football was. Fantastic Now Penn state hires away their offensive,

598
00:34:40,680 --> 00:34:43,279
Speaker 2: coordinator SO i can shoehorn in the name THAT i

599
00:34:43,360 --> 00:34:45,399
Speaker 2: still love to work into the, show even though he's

600
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:48,480
Speaker 2: now an analyst At West. Virginia Kirk, SHIRAKA.

601
00:34:48,680 --> 00:34:50,120
Speaker 1: I don't know if you have the sound. AVAILABLE i

602
00:34:50,120 --> 00:34:52,280
Speaker 1: don't have. THIS i actually deleted it off my. Soundboard

603
00:34:52,440 --> 00:34:58,640
Speaker 1: no hold, on, Sorry, Kirk sorry, SORRY i GUESS i

604
00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: have to keep that on now that he is an

605
00:35:00,160 --> 00:35:00,879
Speaker 1: analyst At West.

606
00:35:00,920 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 2: Virginia, yeah Anytime West virginia does something good or bad on,

607
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:06,080
Speaker 2: offense we can, say well maybe.

608
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,400
Speaker 1: Sure, wrong, good glad we can keep that.

609
00:35:09,440 --> 00:35:13,920
Speaker 2: Continue, SO i, mean it's pretty obvious why twenty nineteen

610
00:35:14,239 --> 00:35:16,959
Speaker 2: went so. Well it's everything came together on both sides

611
00:35:17,000 --> 00:35:19,360
Speaker 2: of the. Ball they had all conference caliber players on

612
00:35:19,400 --> 00:35:23,800
Speaker 2: both sides of the. Ball and when you look at especially,

613
00:35:23,960 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 2: receiver they had two dudes And Tyler johnson And Rashad

614
00:35:27,800 --> 00:35:31,719
Speaker 2: bateman who popped onlike probably any Other MINNESOTA i think

615
00:35:31,719 --> 00:35:34,279
Speaker 2: they both went over a thousand Yards minnesota receiving. Duo

616
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:37,720
Speaker 2: and there's just they had a great. Offense Tanner morgan

617
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:39,719
Speaker 2: was hitting and was, efficient and it was sort of

618
00:35:39,760 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 2: a running back by committee because of, HEALTH i, believe

619
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:44,279
Speaker 2: With Moe ibrahim And Rod.

620
00:35:44,280 --> 00:35:45,480
Speaker 1: Smith Rod, smith.

621
00:35:47,239 --> 00:35:51,440
Speaker 2: They were a really good. Team now you can also

622
00:35:51,520 --> 00:35:55,600
Speaker 2: look at it as, well they snuck by their first four,

623
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:56,720
Speaker 2: opponents none of whom.

624
00:35:56,520 --> 00:35:57,399
Speaker 1: We're all that, good.

625
00:35:58,200 --> 00:36:03,040
Speaker 2: Right it was a really really low point for An

626
00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,359
Speaker 2: illinois team who eventually fired their, coach And nebraska team

627
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:09,040
Speaker 2: who was disappointing all year, long A rutgers team who

628
00:36:09,120 --> 00:36:12,120
Speaker 2: ended up firing their, coach A maryland team in year

629
00:36:12,160 --> 00:36:15,919
Speaker 2: one of a, coach and A northwestern team who had

630
00:36:15,920 --> 00:36:19,439
Speaker 2: a disastrous offensive. Season and so it was a good

631
00:36:19,520 --> 00:36:23,879
Speaker 2: year to be good In minnesota as a good team

632
00:36:23,960 --> 00:36:27,279
Speaker 2: took advantage nothing they can help with the quality of their,

633
00:36:27,320 --> 00:36:30,919
Speaker 2: opponents but losing To wisconsin the way that they did

634
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,759
Speaker 2: was a little bit. Concerning but even it was a great,

635
00:36:34,840 --> 00:36:36,640
Speaker 2: year and you, know they get edged out By. Iowa

636
00:36:37,200 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 2: SO i THINK i came into twenty twenty with high.

637
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 2: Hopes but the losses on, defense THE covid losses over

638
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:45,120
Speaker 2: the course of the, year and everybody has, this But

639
00:36:45,200 --> 00:36:49,120
Speaker 2: minnesota was hit particularly hard early, on and these the,

640
00:36:49,200 --> 00:36:52,560
Speaker 2: lose the loss that they had Against, Michigan it's, like,

641
00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:58,040
Speaker 2: well Maybe michigan's. Excellent minnesota is also pretty, Good and

642
00:36:58,080 --> 00:37:02,880
Speaker 2: it turns out those things were. Wrong michigan not so,

643
00:37:02,920 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 2: Excellent minnesota not pretty. Good so it largely was because of,

644
00:37:07,520 --> 00:37:09,799
Speaker 2: defense And Tanner morgan took a step back With Mike

645
00:37:09,840 --> 00:37:15,040
Speaker 2: sanford stepping in For Kirk, shrock But Tanner morgan also

646
00:37:15,280 --> 00:37:18,600
Speaker 2: played well at, times and you, know dealing with the

647
00:37:18,800 --> 00:37:20,680
Speaker 2: new guys that they were dealing with the new offensive

648
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:24,560
Speaker 2: line a lot of the, season it's understandable why they

649
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:26,800
Speaker 2: would struggle the way that they. Did That maryland loss

650
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:31,000
Speaker 2: was sort of one in a, million losing in overtime

651
00:37:31,040 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: on an extra point, Miss like there's there are reasons

652
00:37:34,040 --> 00:37:36,960
Speaker 2: that you can, Say, okay their record was, this but in,

653
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:40,880
Speaker 2: reality they were, competitive especially on, offense more than they

654
00:37:40,920 --> 00:37:45,959
Speaker 2: get credit. For so, gosh with a three and four

655
00:37:46,160 --> 00:37:50,960
Speaker 2: versus eleven and, two that's a that's a big. Sway

656
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:57,160
Speaker 2: that's a big swing between those two. Records i'm going

657
00:37:57,200 --> 00:37:59,080
Speaker 2: to say three and four is the one direction For,

658
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,080
Speaker 2: minnesota but that'sctually Where i'm gonna use my. Middle i'm

659
00:38:02,120 --> 00:38:06,600
Speaker 2: going to use my middle BECAUSE i JUST i believe

660
00:38:06,600 --> 00:38:09,160
Speaker 2: IN pj flexibility to get a team consistently to bowl,

661
00:38:09,239 --> 00:38:12,239
Speaker 2: games AND i believe In minnesota as a seven ish

662
00:38:12,280 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: win team in A big Ten west that's still not crazy.

663
00:38:15,560 --> 00:38:19,680
Speaker 2: Dangerous northwestern is good, again And iowa is always. Good

664
00:38:19,680 --> 00:38:24,400
Speaker 2: And wisconsin should improve over a. DISAPPOINTMENT i just you,

665
00:38:24,400 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 2: Know Tanner morgan is somehow back for eleventh, year so that's. Nice,

666
00:38:29,320 --> 00:38:33,919
Speaker 2: YEAH i feel decently. Good they're my fence sitting, team

667
00:38:34,160 --> 00:38:38,239
Speaker 2: just BECAUSE i there's not one singular thing LIKE i

668
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:41,319
Speaker 2: Figured minnesota would recruit a little bit. Better you look

669
00:38:41,360 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 2: at WHAT. Pj fleck was able to do in Getting

670
00:38:43,080 --> 00:38:46,440
Speaker 2: Rashad bateman out Of, georgia finding those. Guys he's still

671
00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:49,279
Speaker 2: in like the eighth best class in The big ten.

672
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: RANGE i would love to see, him you, know if

673
00:38:51,480 --> 00:38:53,520
Speaker 2: there were any way to get him, fifth, sixth, whatever

674
00:38:54,000 --> 00:38:58,879
Speaker 2: that'd be nice in terms of future. Optimism but, YEAH

675
00:38:58,920 --> 00:39:01,759
Speaker 2: i think all in, all there my middle team with

676
00:39:02,840 --> 00:39:05,839
Speaker 2: that one, direction knowing that the bottom was where it

677
00:39:06,000 --> 00:39:09,720
Speaker 2: was this past. Year the direction is more twenty, twenty

678
00:39:10,000 --> 00:39:12,719
Speaker 2: just because giving up forty nine it's week. One it's

679
00:39:12,719 --> 00:39:15,239
Speaker 2: a weird year To michigan giving up what they did

680
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:18,200
Speaker 2: on the. Ground two are just in all facets To,

681
00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 2: Tullia tungo By low And.

682
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:23,200
Speaker 1: Maryland it's. Troubling losing To iowa BY i mean they

683
00:39:23,360 --> 00:39:25,480
Speaker 1: just got. Destroyed it was like four or five. Touchdowns

684
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: that's not.

685
00:39:26,080 --> 00:39:33,360
Speaker 2: Great so that's generally WHERE i, stand AND i Think i'm.

686
00:39:33,160 --> 00:39:35,600
Speaker 1: Not super high on The Mike sandford higher. Now right,

687
00:39:35,600 --> 00:39:40,080
Speaker 1: NOW i don't know what about what About? Fleck what About?

688
00:39:40,080 --> 00:39:44,680
Speaker 1: Fleck because there are there are two camps OF. Pj

689
00:39:44,920 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: fleck observers out. There there are the people who are

690
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:55,120
Speaker 1: all in well of everything ABOUT. Pj, fleck inject him

691
00:39:55,120 --> 00:39:58,680
Speaker 1: directly into my. Veins there are others who think he's

692
00:39:58,719 --> 00:40:04,360
Speaker 1: The wizard Of oz right all, Flash, yeah where do you?

693
00:40:04,400 --> 00:40:06,120
Speaker 1: STAND i LIKE. Pj.

694
00:40:06,200 --> 00:40:09,200
Speaker 2: FLECK i do BECAUSE i think so much of college

695
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:13,399
Speaker 2: football is just making eighteen to twenty two year old's

696
00:40:13,480 --> 00:40:17,040
Speaker 2: care and give. Everything and in a year in which

697
00:40:17,080 --> 00:40:19,600
Speaker 2: they could take advantage of a down schedule and a

698
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: bunch of upperclassmen on both sides of the, ball they did.

699
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:25,200
Speaker 2: So and you don't need to look that far back

700
00:40:25,480 --> 00:40:29,720
Speaker 2: To Tim brewster or some of the depths of The

701
00:40:29,840 --> 00:40:32,840
Speaker 2: Jerry Kill Tracy clay's, era And Glen mason was. Fine

702
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:34,320
Speaker 2: it was a lot of five hundred.

703
00:40:34,360 --> 00:40:34,719
Speaker 1: ISH i THINK.

704
00:40:34,760 --> 00:40:37,240
Speaker 2: Pj fleck will be better Than Glen mason in the long.

705
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,800
Speaker 2: Term his name continues to come up for big, jobs

706
00:40:40,840 --> 00:40:44,719
Speaker 2: AND i don't know if that's fully warrant. WARRANTED i

707
00:40:44,760 --> 00:40:46,840
Speaker 2: think it's more of the cult of personality and, like,

708
00:40:46,840 --> 00:40:49,680
Speaker 2: oh what could he do with more resources and you,

709
00:40:49,760 --> 00:40:52,080
Speaker 2: know having the personality that he does and the ability

710
00:40:52,120 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 2: to generate. Enthusiasm i'm not there in the way THAT

711
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 2: i was With Matt, ruhle where people were so high

712
00:40:59,719 --> 00:41:01,480
Speaker 2: on my rule because of what he was able to

713
00:41:01,520 --> 00:41:03,600
Speaker 2: do At temple and the way that you, know WHAT.

714
00:41:03,640 --> 00:41:06,840
Speaker 2: Pj fleck was able to do At Western. MICHIGAN i

715
00:41:06,880 --> 00:41:10,640
Speaker 2: thought the results were clearer and longer term With Matt

716
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:14,520
Speaker 2: rule in terms of turning around programs and reaching new.

717
00:41:14,560 --> 00:41:14,920
Speaker 1: HEIGHTS.

718
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:18,719
Speaker 2: Pj, Fleck i'm not fully there. Yet i'd like to

719
00:41:18,760 --> 00:41:22,040
Speaker 2: see what he does with whoever takes over After Tanner.

720
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,960
Speaker 2: Morgan i'd like to see how the defense is rebuilt.

721
00:41:25,120 --> 00:41:27,760
Speaker 2: Now he made a really good move when he changed defensive,

722
00:41:27,760 --> 00:41:31,080
Speaker 2: COORDINATORS i believe at the end of twenty, eighteen so

723
00:41:31,120 --> 00:41:33,399
Speaker 2: THAT i did like. That that seemed to have worked

724
00:41:33,400 --> 00:41:36,759
Speaker 2: out for them at least in twenty. Nineteen but, no

725
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,400
Speaker 2: they're my middle. Team they are my if things break,

726
00:41:40,480 --> 00:41:43,080
Speaker 2: right eight and, four if things, don't six and six

727
00:41:43,680 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 2: type program right.

728
00:41:44,840 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 1: Now so they are your middle, team is what you're

729
00:41:48,000 --> 00:41:51,320
Speaker 1: saying they're my Middle. TEAM i think it's still a fantastic.

730
00:41:51,400 --> 00:41:53,359
Speaker 1: SONG i THINK i found all of an eight bit.

731
00:41:53,480 --> 00:42:03,160
Speaker 2: VERSION i didn't know if you were GOING i don't

732
00:42:03,160 --> 00:42:04,640
Speaker 2: know if you were GOING zed Or Jimmy.

733
00:42:04,680 --> 00:42:07,520
Speaker 1: World now we WENT. Z it was the first thing

734
00:42:07,560 --> 00:42:12,600
Speaker 1: that came. Up, yeah that's. Fair both songs absolute studs of.

735
00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:15,400
Speaker 1: Song you sent me the what was that The New

736
00:42:15,480 --> 00:42:20,040
Speaker 1: York times like creator video for The? Middle, YES i

737
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 1: could watch every one of those, videos not just for The,

738
00:42:22,000 --> 00:42:23,680
Speaker 1: middle every single one of. THEM i love.

739
00:42:23,719 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 2: Them how producers and, artists, singers songwriters put together. Songs you,

740
00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,160
Speaker 2: Know New York times as, It Rolling stone, GENIUS i,

741
00:42:32,200 --> 00:42:36,480
Speaker 2: know does. It they're all. Fascinating they're all. Phenomenal and,

742
00:42:36,760 --> 00:42:39,200
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm with. YOU i can't get. Enough and that song,

743
00:42:39,239 --> 00:42:43,359
Speaker 2: specifically it's a great. Song And Maren morris country, singer

744
00:42:43,440 --> 00:42:44,040
Speaker 2: right country.

745
00:42:44,040 --> 00:42:45,280
Speaker 1: Singer, yeah, yeah.

746
00:42:45,160 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: And that was more of a dance electro Pop i'm so.

747
00:42:50,160 --> 00:42:54,480
Speaker 2: Old and The Jimmy world version is also. Fantastic do

748
00:42:54,520 --> 00:42:56,640
Speaker 2: you remember the music video for The Jimmy world version

749
00:42:56,680 --> 00:43:00,560
Speaker 2: of The. Middle it was very strange in.

750
00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:04,600
Speaker 1: Retrospect it's A i don't THINK i do actually it's

751
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:06,520
Speaker 1: a bunch of kids in their underwear at like a

752
00:43:06,600 --> 00:43:09,520
Speaker 1: high school. Party oh, yeah, yeah yeah.

753
00:43:09,600 --> 00:43:12,440
Speaker 2: Yeah and there's like an outcast kid who's wearing clothes

754
00:43:13,360 --> 00:43:16,799
Speaker 2: and he goes To it's JUST i rewatched it this

755
00:43:16,840 --> 00:43:18,120
Speaker 2: morning and it was very.

756
00:43:18,160 --> 00:43:19,759
Speaker 1: Strange Jimmy world is at the, party, though so that's.

757
00:43:19,800 --> 00:43:22,200
Speaker 1: Cool CAN i give you a hot take? Here i'm.

758
00:43:22,239 --> 00:43:25,480
Speaker 1: Ready i'm not SURE i really get why music videos

759
00:43:25,560 --> 00:43:25,920
Speaker 1: or even a.

760
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:30,319
Speaker 2: THING i think it WAS mtv and that was, like

761
00:43:30,360 --> 00:43:33,120
Speaker 2: it was such an incredible way to build a visual

762
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,960
Speaker 2: brand to go along with what especially kids would hear

763
00:43:36,960 --> 00:43:37,759
Speaker 2: on the, radio.

764
00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:38,680
Speaker 1: So you're more.

765
00:43:38,719 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: Invested you See Jimmy world and you're, like, OH i

766
00:43:41,480 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 2: want to see them, live, Right you see them, playing

767
00:43:43,560 --> 00:43:45,520
Speaker 2: you see them in the, studio you see them On letterman.

768
00:43:45,600 --> 00:43:49,520
Speaker 2: Whatever then you get this creative. ELEMENT i also think

769
00:43:49,960 --> 00:43:55,080
Speaker 2: record labels had so much money because CDs cost eighteen

770
00:43:55,239 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: dollars a, piece and they thought to, themselves why don't

771
00:43:59,000 --> 00:44:04,480
Speaker 2: we just make three minute mini movies and pay future

772
00:44:04,560 --> 00:44:07,759
Speaker 2: movie directors who were twenty seven to direct a three

773
00:44:07,760 --> 00:44:11,040
Speaker 2: minute music video and get it ON mtv and be you,

774
00:44:11,040 --> 00:44:14,319
Speaker 2: know if a music, video especially, pops it'll get ON.

775
00:44:14,480 --> 00:44:17,480
Speaker 2: Mtv if the song is especially, hooky it'll get ON

776
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 2: mtv and every you know human under nineteen In america

777
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: was WATCHING trl way back.

778
00:44:24,400 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 1: When, yeah so it was like this incredible promotional. TOOL i.

779
00:44:27,440 --> 00:44:30,879
Speaker 1: THINK i, mean you WATCHED mtv and music, videos didn't

780
00:44:30,840 --> 00:44:32,520
Speaker 1: you GOG? Trl? Yeah? Yeah, yeah oh.

781
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 2: YEAH i worked for one of like the absolute like

782
00:44:38,200 --> 00:44:42,360
Speaker 2: blue chip directors of music videos in that. Era he

783
00:44:42,440 --> 00:44:45,680
Speaker 2: directed like Popa roach And blaquinity two And Weezer Marco.

784
00:44:45,800 --> 00:44:47,879
Speaker 2: SIEGA i was an. Intern that was my first job

785
00:44:47,920 --> 00:44:49,560
Speaker 2: out of. COLLEGE i was an intern for his production.

786
00:44:49,680 --> 00:44:50,840
Speaker 2: Company it was pretty.

787
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,160
Speaker 1: Fun all. Right, well my middle team, is, Uh. Baylor

788
00:44:56,200 --> 00:44:59,000
Speaker 1: i'm gonna Go. Baylor i'll stick With. BAYLOR i think

789
00:44:59,040 --> 00:45:01,600
Speaker 1: they're probably closer to seven to, five eight and four

790
00:45:02,239 --> 00:45:04,600
Speaker 1: over the long, haul maybe squeeze in a nine or

791
00:45:04,600 --> 00:45:08,000
Speaker 1: ten win season here or, there but definitely not a

792
00:45:08,440 --> 00:45:10,680
Speaker 1: two and seven. TEAM i don't buy. That not With Dave.

793
00:45:10,760 --> 00:45:12,760
Speaker 1: RANDA i still have a lot of faith In Lego.

794
00:45:12,800 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 1: Batman good, movie by the, Way yeah not. Bad, okay real,

795
00:45:18,320 --> 00:45:20,200
Speaker 1: QUICK i JUST i have to do. This i'm not

796
00:45:20,239 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 1: even gonna grit a, chance And i'm not gonna let

797
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:28,640
Speaker 1: it play because a circumstance here in The Pat league

798
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:31,680
Speaker 1: has degraded to the point THAT i the schedule is

799
00:45:31,719 --> 00:45:34,320
Speaker 1: so fed up right now that they've Got lafayette playing

800
00:45:34,360 --> 00:45:38,000
Speaker 1: two games this weekend And bucknell playing two games this.

801
00:45:38,080 --> 00:45:41,480
Speaker 1: WEEKEND i think EVERY i think everything was postponed last. Week,

802
00:45:42,040 --> 00:45:46,280
Speaker 1: ah and so NOW i See lafayette Against, Bucknell bucknell Against,

803
00:45:46,360 --> 00:45:47,720
Speaker 1: lehigh And lafayette Against.

804
00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:52,479
Speaker 2: Fordham it's an old fashioned. Doubleheader Bob ucker on the. Call,

805
00:45:52,920 --> 00:45:54,120
Speaker 2: YEAH i have no idea what's.

806
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:58,200
Speaker 1: HAPPENING i hope everyone is healthy and not, sick and

807
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:00,680
Speaker 1: somebody from one of those schools is going to have

808
00:46:00,719 --> 00:46:02,719
Speaker 1: to write In soliverble at gmail dot com let me

809
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:05,480
Speaker 1: know what the heck's going. ON i really want to

810
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:09,719
Speaker 1: steer into the spring football version of The Pat, league but,

811
00:46:10,520 --> 00:46:13,200
Speaker 1: HONESTLY i feel like at this, point the SECOND i say,

812
00:46:13,239 --> 00:46:15,600
Speaker 1: it it's going to be. Obsolete So i'm not doing.

813
00:46:15,640 --> 00:46:18,640
Speaker 1: It not Doing i'm not putting who's actually. PLAYING i don't.

814
00:46:18,640 --> 00:46:19,799
Speaker 1: KNOW i have no, idea is my.

815
00:46:19,880 --> 00:46:23,600
Speaker 2: Point i'm on The Pat league's site right, now so

816
00:46:23,840 --> 00:46:26,520
Speaker 2: tomorrow or this weekend is the twenty, seventh.

817
00:46:26,480 --> 00:46:29,040
Speaker 1: Twenty, yeah twenty, Seventh So i'm.

818
00:46:28,920 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 2: Seeing Buck, Now lehigh Postponed Holy, Cross colgate Postponed Lafayette

819
00:46:34,000 --> 00:46:36,040
Speaker 2: fordham In New, York New, york which is a very

820
00:46:36,080 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 2: conflicting emotional matchup for me And lafayette Buck now four Pm. Lewisburg,

821
00:46:41,080 --> 00:46:46,680
Speaker 2: now how you remember how the criticism of twenty four

822
00:46:47,200 --> 00:46:51,640
Speaker 2: to people in Southern california was? Trick my, Dude jack

823
00:46:51,920 --> 00:46:58,120
Speaker 2: is driving From chatsworth To eskundido in thirty, minutes which

824
00:46:58,239 --> 00:47:00,600
Speaker 2: averages out to two hundred and ninety three miles an.

825
00:47:00,600 --> 00:47:06,320
Speaker 2: Hour so If lafayette And fordham at one Pm eastern

826
00:47:07,440 --> 00:47:12,320
Speaker 2: play an absolute nothing but runs and they finished the

827
00:47:12,880 --> 00:47:15,360
Speaker 2: five minute, halftime you, know wolf down some orange slices

828
00:47:15,360 --> 00:47:17,839
Speaker 2: and granola bars and they finished the game in two?

829
00:47:17,880 --> 00:47:22,640
Speaker 2: Hours is it possible with light? TRAFFIC i want to

830
00:47:23,120 --> 00:47:24,440
Speaker 2: have you up With Google.

831
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 1: Maps, yeah is it?

832
00:47:26,160 --> 00:47:28,600
Speaker 2: Possible OR i guess one of your your chosen app

833
00:47:28,640 --> 00:47:33,440
Speaker 2: on your phone to get from The bronx to Beautiful, LOUISBOURG.

834
00:47:33,520 --> 00:47:36,600
Speaker 1: Pa there is no. Chance there is no. Chance oh,

835
00:47:36,680 --> 00:47:44,600
Speaker 1: Here i'll put it In, LOUISBOURG pa to The. Bronx

836
00:47:45,560 --> 00:47:46,160
Speaker 1: do it at.

837
00:47:46,040 --> 00:47:47,800
Speaker 2: Like three in the. Morning like if you know you

838
00:47:47,840 --> 00:47:49,520
Speaker 2: can change the time of, journey.

839
00:47:49,600 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 1: There's there's just no. Way so empty, Streets, Bronx New. York,

840
00:47:55,000 --> 00:48:04,200
Speaker 1: Okay bronx depart at the part at here we go

841
00:48:04,320 --> 00:48:09,319
Speaker 1: to part at three. Am, yep three and a half,

842
00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:14,080
Speaker 1: hours three and a. Half there's no way you would

843
00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,239
Speaker 1: need The Jack bauer. Car how.

844
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,239
Speaker 2: LONG i guess you could get there if there were

845
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,000
Speaker 2: a plane, somewhere you, Know westchester somewhere up.

846
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:28,319
Speaker 1: There does Does lewis have an? Airport i'm sure you,

847
00:48:28,360 --> 00:48:33,080
Speaker 1: know flying To, mifflinburg flying To, williamsport flying To.

848
00:48:33,080 --> 00:48:38,320
Speaker 2: Williamsport williamsport's pretty. Close land on the Baseball. Diamond, okay

849
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Speaker 1: Do but, otherwise, no there's no chance you could drive.

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Speaker 2: IT i guess you could split the. Difference we talked

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Speaker 2: season and just go To East Stroudsburg high, Right James Franklin,

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Speaker 2: territory you could you could.

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Speaker 1: Go In James Franklin territory and with the, difference So

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Speaker 1: East stroudsburg about a buck forty five in The. Bronx,

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Speaker 1: yeah you could go up. There, yes maybe that's what

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Speaker 1: it's going to.

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Speaker 2: Do it's Basically lafayette taking on all comers In East.

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Speaker 1: Stroudsburg, Okay i'd. Watch so we have to depart here

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Speaker 1: at about five minutes because you're doing a pizza. Contest

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Speaker 1: can you please detail. THAT i need to know more

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Speaker 1: about this and what your strategy is my pizza. CONTEST

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Speaker 1: i got to run downstairs in a. Minute Here.

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Speaker 2: Jody's aunt said called me up and, said, hey can

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Speaker 2: you bring over like three or four? Pizzas we want

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Speaker 2: to have a contest Because jody's cousins From atlanta are

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Speaker 2: up in The Chicago land area and one of her

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Speaker 2: cousins loves a local place and wants to compare the

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Speaker 2: local place in local style to my. Pizzas and there

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Speaker 2: are going to BE i don't know ten people or

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Speaker 2: so eating pizza and. Judging and so Now i'm under.

873
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Speaker 2: PRESSURE i can only make one pizza at a, time

874
00:49:59,360 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 2: SO i have to figure out how to rewarm things

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Speaker 2: up before stuffing a two year old and a month

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Speaker 2: old into a, car keep the pizzas warm in the,

877
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Speaker 2: car and get it served to people at a reasonable.

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Speaker 1: Temperature. There, so what is the format of said? Contests

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Speaker 1: is there a blind taste test or anything like? THAT

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Speaker 1: i don't think.

881
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Speaker 2: SO i think it's going to be very obvious because

882
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Speaker 2: my slices are more traditional triangles and these are more

883
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Speaker 2: bar cut in the, squares the thin, squares so it'll

884
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Speaker 2: be very clear which pie is. Which AND i think

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Speaker 2: there's maybe a corn meal element to the dough of

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Speaker 2: the local, place so very different. STYLES i don't know

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Speaker 2: what the actual format, is But i'm making two plain,

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Speaker 2: pizzas so just, tomato, sauce cheese and some seasoning and,

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Speaker 2: basil And i'm going to do a straight pep and

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Speaker 2: Then i'm going to go with a wild card pep

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Speaker 2: shaved garlic, ooh and a spicy honey. Drizzle very, light

892
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Speaker 2: but it'll give it that sweet and spice ending.

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Speaker 1: Note will you be at all crestfallen if you do not?

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Speaker 1: WIN i will be actually, yeah, yeah, SEE i know,

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Speaker 1: you AND i know there's a competitive flare there that

896
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Speaker 1: you don't always let, on but you want to win. This.

897
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Speaker 2: Yeah if somebody says that this, place Which i'm sure is,

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Speaker 2: delicious is better than my, Pizza i'm a non. PROFESSIONAL

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Speaker 2: i don't want a pizza. Place this place has been

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Speaker 2: operating for. Decades if somebody in the grouping says we

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Speaker 2: prefer this Place i'm going to say.

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Speaker 1: They they they have an.

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Speaker 2: Advantage they have the, boxes they have the insulated carrying

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Speaker 2: the situation, CHILD i don't have any of.

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Speaker 1: That pay them a reasonable, wage blah blah.

906
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,720
Speaker 2: Blah they can pay four they can make multiple pizzas

907
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:43,120
Speaker 2: at a, time one at a, time And i'm, reheating

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Speaker 2: so this is not indicative of my true. Quality, yeah,

909
00:51:46,680 --> 00:51:47,360
Speaker 2: Yeah i'm gonna throw a.

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Speaker 1: Fit, okay, yeah all, Right, LOOK i don't want you

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Speaker 1: to miss the bus. HERE i WANT i, WANT i

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Speaker 1: want to make sure that you've got enough time to

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Speaker 1: do your, thing relax and win the. Contest but you

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Speaker 1: have to report back, now both On patreon everbowlers dot

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Speaker 1: com as well as On tuesday. Episode we need to.

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Speaker 2: KNOW i will Absolutely WHAT i want to do IS

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Speaker 2: i want to make pizza FOR i, Mean i'll make

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Speaker 2: pizza for.

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Speaker 1: You that's, fine if you make it here or. WHATEVER

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Speaker 1: i want to make pizza For MAMA. H, yeah, yeah

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Speaker 1: because she seems pretty. Invested, yeah Momy h would be

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Speaker 1: Very she's she's definitely dan pizza. CURIOUS i love. It all,

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Speaker 1: right all, right well you got to, go and the

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Speaker 1: find people out there got to go as. Well they've

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Speaker 1: listened to Our One direction, show play that on the way.

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Speaker 1: Out thank you so much for, downloading for, listening for

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Speaker 1: playing along with this. Madness.

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Speaker 2: YEAH i was just gonna, say sometimes we look, back

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Speaker 2: like what show should we do this? Week during the off,

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Speaker 2: Season we'll look back to a previous years, like oh

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Speaker 2: we did A Mari condo, Show oh we did One.

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Speaker 1: Direction oh ty created AN Rpg And i'm, like well

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Speaker 1: that was sort of a one. Off and that's that's

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Speaker 1: your behind the scene block for that guy over, THERE

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Speaker 1: a by good Friend Dan rubinstein for Myself Tye. Hildebrand

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Speaker 1: enjoy your, Weekend stay, safe stay. Happy by all, means

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Speaker 1: fay sivent peace m hm hm