1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:02,960 Speaker 1: This episode is brought to you by square Space. Start 2 00:00:02,960 --> 00:00:06,680 Speaker 1: building your website today at squarespace dot com. Enter offer 3 00:00:06,760 --> 00:00:09,480 Speaker 1: code History at check out to get ten percent off 4 00:00:09,800 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: square Space. Build it beautiful. Welcome to Stuff you missed 5 00:00:14,320 --> 00:00:23,160 Speaker 1: in History Class from works dot com. Hello, and welcome 6 00:00:23,160 --> 00:00:26,119 Speaker 1: to the podcast. I'm Holly from and I'm Tracy. He 7 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:31,120 Speaker 1: will say, remember back when we were talking about the 8 00:00:31,120 --> 00:00:34,480 Speaker 1: Wright brothers and I interviewed David McCullough and he talked 9 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:36,720 Speaker 1: about that boy that colloqued Wilbur in the teeth with 10 00:00:36,760 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 1: a hockey stick when they were in high school. Ye 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,400 Speaker 1: remember how that kid grew up to be a serial killer. 12 00:00:42,560 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 1: Do you remember how people wrote in We're like, I 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:45,559 Speaker 1: want to hear more about that guy that hit him 14 00:00:45,560 --> 00:00:48,240 Speaker 1: in the face. Well, lucky them, so do I. How 15 00:00:48,280 --> 00:00:51,360 Speaker 1: we are. I can't resist a good story of gruesome 16 00:00:51,400 --> 00:00:54,480 Speaker 1: goings on. So today we're going to talk about Oliver 17 00:00:54,600 --> 00:00:56,639 Speaker 1: haw who was that very same person from the will 18 00:00:56,680 --> 00:01:00,160 Speaker 1: Were Wright incident. His life was a mess. I will 19 00:01:00,200 --> 00:01:01,480 Speaker 1: warn you up front that we are not going to 20 00:01:01,520 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: talk about the Right brothers at all. We won't even 21 00:01:03,200 --> 00:01:04,959 Speaker 1: talk about that incident because it's kind of one of 22 00:01:04,959 --> 00:01:07,600 Speaker 1: those weird things that nobody has a lot of documentation on. 23 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:10,080 Speaker 1: It's like they seem to be playing something like ice 24 00:01:10,120 --> 00:01:13,000 Speaker 1: hockey on a pond and he got hit in the 25 00:01:13,000 --> 00:01:15,320 Speaker 1: face and it's unclear whether that was accidental or not, 26 00:01:15,520 --> 00:01:19,240 Speaker 1: and there's just no documentation that the whole story. That's 27 00:01:19,319 --> 00:01:21,319 Speaker 1: that's the whole story. We've already talked about it. And 28 00:01:21,319 --> 00:01:22,760 Speaker 1: I also want to give just a little bit of 29 00:01:22,760 --> 00:01:25,560 Speaker 1: a trigger warning here because the story of Oliver haw 30 00:01:25,800 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: is one that is really just a classic case of 31 00:01:29,880 --> 00:01:33,840 Speaker 1: addiction and the cyclical nature that addicts lives tend to take, 32 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 1: and that I know it can be hard to revisit 33 00:01:36,520 --> 00:01:38,399 Speaker 1: for people who have had to live through it or 34 00:01:38,480 --> 00:01:40,600 Speaker 1: watch someone lives through it. So I just want to 35 00:01:40,640 --> 00:01:42,240 Speaker 1: give you a heads up here that that is pretty 36 00:01:42,280 --> 00:01:44,679 Speaker 1: much what's going on for the next two episodes. Yeah, 37 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,240 Speaker 1: and his first wife similarly has a trying to get 38 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:49,960 Speaker 1: away and then going back and trying to get away 39 00:01:49,960 --> 00:01:54,400 Speaker 1: and going back, and yeah, yeah, it's it's you know, 40 00:01:54,440 --> 00:01:56,640 Speaker 1: if those are things that that you are sensitive to 41 00:01:56,720 --> 00:01:58,760 Speaker 1: that you just don't want to deal with in your 42 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:04,880 Speaker 1: your podcasting or aiment, this set might not be for you. Um, 43 00:02:04,920 --> 00:02:07,320 Speaker 1: but if those are things that do not bother you. 44 00:02:07,720 --> 00:02:10,079 Speaker 1: Buckle up, because this guy's a piece of work. Ah, yep, 45 00:02:10,280 --> 00:02:12,320 Speaker 1: I am with you. I know he's a piece of ware. 46 00:02:13,800 --> 00:02:16,000 Speaker 1: He even has a suitable man on middle name. Oliver 47 00:02:16,120 --> 00:02:19,040 Speaker 1: Crook Haw was born in Dayton, Ohio, in April twelfth, 48 00:02:19,160 --> 00:02:23,040 Speaker 1: eight seventy one. His parents were Samuel Jacob Haw and 49 00:02:23,120 --> 00:02:25,919 Speaker 1: Mary Frances Metz Haw, and he had an older brother, 50 00:02:26,120 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: Jesse Lincoln Hall, who was three years older than he was. 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:32,880 Speaker 1: And the Haws were deeply religious, and they were devoted 52 00:02:32,919 --> 00:02:35,280 Speaker 1: not just to the church, but to really helping others 53 00:02:35,280 --> 00:02:38,800 Speaker 1: in the community. Mr Haw was known to bring impoverished 54 00:02:38,880 --> 00:02:40,680 Speaker 1: children to the house so that he and his wife 55 00:02:40,680 --> 00:02:43,200 Speaker 1: could give them a good meal and clean them up, 56 00:02:44,160 --> 00:02:46,360 Speaker 1: get them closed in some cases if they needed them 57 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,680 Speaker 1: before they sent them home. And Mrs Hawk kind of 58 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:51,440 Speaker 1: made it her business to keep an eye on all 59 00:02:51,480 --> 00:02:54,000 Speaker 1: of the boys of the neighborhood and kind of keep 60 00:02:54,040 --> 00:02:57,320 Speaker 1: after them to ensure that they attended Sunday services regularly. 61 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:00,440 Speaker 1: This couple was so dedicated to helping other people that 62 00:03:00,480 --> 00:03:03,720 Speaker 1: in doing so, they sometimes spread themselves too thin and 63 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 1: jeopardize their own financial stability. This is something that Oliver 64 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:12,320 Speaker 1: really resented. He was also embarrassed by their public displays 65 00:03:12,360 --> 00:03:17,280 Speaker 1: of religious devotion, and Oliver's brother Jesse, also made him uncomfortable. 66 00:03:17,600 --> 00:03:19,440 Speaker 1: He'd had a brain injury and a fall when he 67 00:03:19,480 --> 00:03:21,680 Speaker 1: was really young, and that seems to have led to 68 00:03:21,800 --> 00:03:26,920 Speaker 1: some developmental delays. Yeah, there's not a lot of like 69 00:03:27,000 --> 00:03:31,360 Speaker 1: medical specificity around that. It seems like he hit his 70 00:03:31,400 --> 00:03:34,400 Speaker 1: head when he was young, and he was what they 71 00:03:34,400 --> 00:03:36,240 Speaker 1: would call at the time slow. I was gonna say, 72 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:39,720 Speaker 1: did they describe him as slow? But there's really no 73 00:03:39,960 --> 00:03:43,000 Speaker 1: specifics on what that injury actually would have been. It 74 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:46,720 Speaker 1: seems like he really didn't get treatment for whatever it was. Um, 75 00:03:46,840 --> 00:03:49,080 Speaker 1: So we just know that he he kind of was 76 00:03:49,120 --> 00:03:51,640 Speaker 1: a little bit like He's also described as simple in 77 00:03:51,680 --> 00:03:56,720 Speaker 1: a lot of texts, so just not quite superspeedy um, 78 00:03:56,760 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: but seemed for all the world to be a very 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 1: kind and good man. So despite his lack of enthusiasm 80 00:04:03,800 --> 00:04:07,320 Speaker 1: for his family, Oliver, who became something of a bully 81 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:09,880 Speaker 1: as he grew up again that maybe tied into that 82 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:12,680 Speaker 1: wilber Right story, started working for his father at the 83 00:04:12,680 --> 00:04:15,960 Speaker 1: age of fifteen. The Hawes had a carriage painting business, 84 00:04:16,120 --> 00:04:18,640 Speaker 1: but that arrangement did not work out, and it wasn't 85 00:04:18,680 --> 00:04:21,280 Speaker 1: long before it was abandoned and Oliver went to work 86 00:04:21,320 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: instead at a drug store owned and run by Charles C. Francisco. 87 00:04:25,880 --> 00:04:28,800 Speaker 1: Working in a drug store gave Oliver ready access to 88 00:04:28,880 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 1: powerful drugs that he started using to self medicate to 89 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:35,720 Speaker 1: cope with pain from tooth decay. Initially, it appears that 90 00:04:35,760 --> 00:04:39,600 Speaker 1: he started using a product called cocaine toothache drops, which 91 00:04:39,640 --> 00:04:43,080 Speaker 1: would kill the pain from his tooth issues. Let's remind 92 00:04:43,080 --> 00:04:44,800 Speaker 1: everyone that once upon a time you could go to 93 00:04:44,800 --> 00:04:48,800 Speaker 1: a drug store and buy cocaine toothache drops. Yeah, but 94 00:04:48,920 --> 00:04:52,640 Speaker 1: in addition to those drops, he started mixing other cures. 95 00:04:52,720 --> 00:04:56,360 Speaker 1: And I'm using the air quotes there based on pamphlet 96 00:04:56,400 --> 00:05:00,839 Speaker 1: recipes for Druggists, Bateman's pictorial draw had been part of 97 00:05:00,880 --> 00:05:04,960 Speaker 1: these kinds of pamphlets for quite some time. That recipe 98 00:05:05,040 --> 00:05:08,040 Speaker 1: first received a Royal patent in Great Britain in seventeen 99 00:05:08,040 --> 00:05:10,839 Speaker 1: twenty six as a patent medicine, and it was alleged 100 00:05:10,880 --> 00:05:16,000 Speaker 1: to be so effective that many counterfeits followed. Numerous recipes 101 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:19,400 Speaker 1: for variations on this formula for Bateman's pictorial drops had 102 00:05:19,400 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 1: been printed in Druggists manuals for almost a decade by 103 00:05:22,480 --> 00:05:25,160 Speaker 1: the time Oliver Haw happened upon it in a book 104 00:05:25,160 --> 00:05:27,880 Speaker 1: called The King's American Dispensatory, and that was a book 105 00:05:27,920 --> 00:05:31,000 Speaker 1: of formulas written to advise druggists on the use of 106 00:05:31,040 --> 00:05:36,120 Speaker 1: botanicals in compounding medicines. The pectoral in Bateman's Drops refers 107 00:05:36,160 --> 00:05:38,520 Speaker 1: to the lungs and chest, not so much just the 108 00:05:38,600 --> 00:05:42,480 Speaker 1: muscles on your body. This is a medicine initially marketed 109 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: to treat things like colds and coughs, and then eventually 110 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:49,360 Speaker 1: that spread to rheumatism, reast pain, and other maladies. Its 111 00:05:49,360 --> 00:05:52,680 Speaker 1: effectiveness in treating these things was from its primary ingredient, 112 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: which was opium and as an aside. You can read 113 00:05:55,800 --> 00:05:59,160 Speaker 1: King's American Dispensatory online. Will have a link to a 114 00:05:59,240 --> 00:06:01,640 Speaker 1: later publication of it in the show notes, but please 115 00:06:01,680 --> 00:06:04,680 Speaker 1: do not make these things. Oliver Hag got so good 116 00:06:04,720 --> 00:06:07,000 Speaker 1: at mixing medications at the drug store that a local 117 00:06:07,040 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: doctor named Otho Evans Francis suggested that maybe Oliver should 118 00:06:11,440 --> 00:06:14,960 Speaker 1: become a doctor himself, and the doctor offered to mentor him. 119 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:19,120 Speaker 1: Dr Francis, who was the city physician, really encouraged Haw 120 00:06:19,200 --> 00:06:22,400 Speaker 1: to go to college and seriously study science to prepare 121 00:06:22,440 --> 00:06:25,640 Speaker 1: for a medical career. Has started his medical studies in 122 00:06:25,760 --> 00:06:29,720 Speaker 1: eight at the Cincinnati Medical College, but though he initially 123 00:06:29,760 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: seemed enthusiastic, his attendance was really spotty. For one thing, 124 00:06:33,680 --> 00:06:36,800 Speaker 1: his family struggled to cover the cost of tuition, and 125 00:06:36,880 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: for another, he was still using a combo of coca 126 00:06:39,440 --> 00:06:42,840 Speaker 1: of cocaine and opium to treat his toothaches. He also 127 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,240 Speaker 1: developed a taste for liquor. Despite the inconsistency of his life. 128 00:06:47,279 --> 00:06:49,839 Speaker 1: At this point, Oliver fell in love with a girl 129 00:06:49,960 --> 00:06:52,880 Speaker 1: named Anna Margaret Eckley, and he managed to convince her 130 00:06:52,960 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: family that he should live with them. So that he 131 00:06:55,240 --> 00:06:57,200 Speaker 1: should he could put away money to go back to 132 00:06:57,240 --> 00:06:59,839 Speaker 1: medical school, so he was still working in the drugs 133 00:07:00,080 --> 00:07:03,119 Speaker 1: or whenever he went back to Dayton. But Anna's father, 134 00:07:03,279 --> 00:07:05,760 Speaker 1: William Eckley, did agree to this, but he really wasn't 135 00:07:05,800 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: Oliver's biggest fan. This is when the first suspicious incident 136 00:07:10,200 --> 00:07:13,920 Speaker 1: in Oliver's life really takes place. William equally died suddenly 137 00:07:14,000 --> 00:07:19,440 Speaker 1: of pulmonary apoplexy on February. This isn't really a diagnosis 138 00:07:19,440 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: that exists today anymore. Uh, He had no previous history 139 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:26,240 Speaker 1: of heart problems, and he was in good health right 140 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:30,840 Speaker 1: up to this unexpected death, and Oliver definitely benefited from 141 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,239 Speaker 1: at least passing. First, it meant that he could marry Anna, 142 00:07:34,320 --> 00:07:37,280 Speaker 1: which he did later that year on Thanksgiving Day, without 143 00:07:37,320 --> 00:07:40,000 Speaker 1: William putting up any objections, which would have been a 144 00:07:40,000 --> 00:07:43,320 Speaker 1: problem had he been alive. Second, it meant that he 145 00:07:43,320 --> 00:07:47,280 Speaker 1: could use the considerable life insurance payout that Anna received 146 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:49,840 Speaker 1: to go back to medical school, which he also did. 147 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 1: He did not return to the Cincinnati Medical College, though, 148 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:56,040 Speaker 1: he switched schools to the Miami Medical College, which was 149 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:59,000 Speaker 1: also in Cincinnati, and that school would later join the 150 00:07:59,080 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: University of Since Daddy. That school didn't work out either. 151 00:08:02,840 --> 00:08:06,000 Speaker 1: How what, Hall was asked to leave after one semester, 152 00:08:06,440 --> 00:08:09,360 Speaker 1: although the reason is unclear. Yeah, we don't know why 153 00:08:09,400 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: they invited him to exit, but they did and he didn't. Uh. 154 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,520 Speaker 1: He did continue his medical education though, and he graduated 155 00:08:16,560 --> 00:08:20,960 Speaker 1: from Louisville Medical College in spring of and he opened 156 00:08:21,040 --> 00:08:23,240 Speaker 1: up his own practice on March tenth of that year 157 00:08:23,280 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 1: in his hometown of Dayton. From his office lab, he 158 00:08:26,640 --> 00:08:28,880 Speaker 1: was working on a project that he claimed was going 159 00:08:28,920 --> 00:08:32,640 Speaker 1: to change science forever and create a new race of beings. 160 00:08:32,720 --> 00:08:36,680 Speaker 1: He really felt like, um, he was going to evolve 161 00:08:36,760 --> 00:08:40,760 Speaker 1: humanity to the next level, and referencing Robert Louis Stevenson's 162 00:08:40,840 --> 00:08:44,280 Speaker 1: Doctor Jekyll and Mr Hyde story, Haw told friends that 163 00:08:44,360 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 1: he was onto a formula that would prove that two 164 00:08:47,440 --> 00:08:51,160 Speaker 1: beings could share a body, and of course he was 165 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:54,480 Speaker 1: his own guinea pig for testing the drug. Before we 166 00:08:54,520 --> 00:08:58,559 Speaker 1: talk about how that played out, you, Mike can guess 167 00:08:59,240 --> 00:09:01,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have of a brief moment for a word 168 00:09:01,200 --> 00:09:13,880 Speaker 1: from a sponsor. So whether he really believed that he 169 00:09:13,920 --> 00:09:16,720 Speaker 1: was testing a new pharmaceutical or if he was just 170 00:09:16,880 --> 00:09:19,800 Speaker 1: using his lab as a cover for his growing dependency 171 00:09:19,800 --> 00:09:24,160 Speaker 1: on drugs, Things quickly went wrong for Oliver Hall. He 172 00:09:24,240 --> 00:09:28,200 Speaker 1: started ordering large quantities of both cocaine and morphine through 173 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,120 Speaker 1: multiple pharmacies, so he was placing large orders but then 174 00:09:31,160 --> 00:09:34,080 Speaker 1: spreading them around to kind of cover his tracks. And 175 00:09:34,360 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: just a few months after he set up his office 176 00:09:37,320 --> 00:09:40,400 Speaker 1: UH and started all of these experiments, Anna sought out 177 00:09:40,400 --> 00:09:43,320 Speaker 1: help from a neighbor, claiming that her husband, in a 178 00:09:43,360 --> 00:09:46,920 Speaker 1: fit where he was not himself, had attacked her. The 179 00:09:46,960 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: couple separated, each of them moved back in with their 180 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:53,720 Speaker 1: family and Dr Hawk closed his practice. Anna filed for divorce, 181 00:09:53,800 --> 00:09:56,240 Speaker 1: but then she discovered she was pregnant and the two 182 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,720 Speaker 1: attempted to reconcile. Anna moved in with the Haws, and 183 00:09:59,760 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 1: the actor once again started a practice, this time out 184 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,440 Speaker 1: of a room and his family's home. Anna gave birth 185 00:10:05,480 --> 00:10:09,800 Speaker 1: to William Samuel Haw on December six, but there really 186 00:10:09,880 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: wasn't much time to celebrate their new child. Oliver's addiction 187 00:10:13,800 --> 00:10:16,840 Speaker 1: was once again spiraling out of control and he stopped working, 188 00:10:17,280 --> 00:10:20,800 Speaker 1: and Anna once again left her husband in a desperate 189 00:10:20,840 --> 00:10:23,880 Speaker 1: move because things had really just gotten worse and worse 190 00:10:23,880 --> 00:10:28,280 Speaker 1: and worse. Oliver's parents UH started proceedings to have their 191 00:10:28,280 --> 00:10:31,840 Speaker 1: son declared insane because he had become prone to terrifying 192 00:10:31,920 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 1: fits of violence, and they recognize that they really were 193 00:10:34,920 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 1: not equipped to help him through whatever this was. And 194 00:10:38,360 --> 00:10:41,840 Speaker 1: when a deputy sheriff and a police patrolman arrived at 195 00:10:41,840 --> 00:10:44,120 Speaker 1: the Hall home to collect Oliver so that he could 196 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:47,760 Speaker 1: be taken for evaluation, this plays out like a late 197 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: Victorian version of the show Cops. So the doctor resisted 198 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: being taken into custody. He was fending off this sheriff UH, 199 00:10:56,320 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 1: this deputy sheriff and this patrolman, all the while injecting 200 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,880 Speaker 1: himself in the chest repeatedly. I can only imagine we're 201 00:11:04,960 --> 00:11:07,480 Speaker 1: this film today what it would look like. We know 202 00:11:07,600 --> 00:11:10,240 Speaker 1: because we've seen it now. Just picture it a hundred 203 00:11:10,320 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 1: years ago. The doctor, as we said, resisted being taken 204 00:11:14,280 --> 00:11:19,040 Speaker 1: into custody, but eventually he was subdued. Whether from uh, 205 00:11:19,080 --> 00:11:21,440 Speaker 1: just being physically overpowered by the two men, or if 206 00:11:21,480 --> 00:11:23,200 Speaker 1: he just kind of wore himself out with all of 207 00:11:23,200 --> 00:11:24,800 Speaker 1: the drugs that he was taking in front of them, 208 00:11:24,840 --> 00:11:30,000 Speaker 1: we do not know. Ah. And he was declared in 209 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:33,800 Speaker 1: saying the following day, which was March, by a probate 210 00:11:33,880 --> 00:11:38,240 Speaker 1: judge after testimony was given by his family, so there 211 00:11:38,320 --> 00:11:41,000 Speaker 1: was also some family dynamic in the midst and he 212 00:11:41,040 --> 00:11:43,480 Speaker 1: was admitted to the Dating Asylum for the insane at 213 00:11:43,520 --> 00:11:46,960 Speaker 1: that point. At the facility, which had a rash of 214 00:11:47,040 --> 00:11:50,200 Speaker 1: problems at the time, including multiple patients dying from what 215 00:11:50,280 --> 00:11:53,920 Speaker 1: appeared to be repeated kicks to the ribs. Haw was 216 00:11:53,960 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 1: given high seen hydro bromide as part of his treatment. 217 00:11:57,440 --> 00:11:59,839 Speaker 1: This is a drug commonly used in treatments today from 218 00:12:00,000 --> 00:12:03,640 Speaker 1: ocean sickness, and in low doses it's perfectly safe, but 219 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,000 Speaker 1: in higher doses it can cause irregularity and heart rate 220 00:12:07,040 --> 00:12:10,760 Speaker 1: and respiration and even paralysis. And I want you to 221 00:12:10,800 --> 00:12:12,880 Speaker 1: just make a mental note of that as we go forward, 222 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:17,800 Speaker 1: particularly for the second episode that would become important. After 223 00:12:17,840 --> 00:12:20,599 Speaker 1: a four month stay in the asylum, Oliver was discharged 224 00:12:20,600 --> 00:12:23,280 Speaker 1: with a clean bill of health. He reconciled with his 225 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:26,480 Speaker 1: wife Anna, and once again he opened his medical practice, 226 00:12:26,960 --> 00:12:30,000 Speaker 1: but his time in the asylum was common knowledge throughout Dayton, 227 00:12:30,120 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: and no one was really willing to trust him as 228 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 1: their doctor. He briefly moved to Springfield without his wife 229 00:12:36,240 --> 00:12:38,559 Speaker 1: to try to start a practice there, but it went 230 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 1: bussed within just a few months, and he moved back 231 00:12:40,679 --> 00:12:44,800 Speaker 1: to Dayton once more. This entire cycle played out again 232 00:12:44,920 --> 00:12:47,719 Speaker 1: with another Dayton office which also closed, and then I 233 00:12:47,800 --> 00:12:50,960 Speaker 1: moved to Toledo once again without Anna and his son. 234 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:55,040 Speaker 1: While in Toledo, Haw apparently formed a relationship with a 235 00:12:55,080 --> 00:12:57,760 Speaker 1: woman and the pair even lived together briefly, but then, 236 00:12:57,960 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: according to rumor, she died suddenly, and Hall moved back 237 00:13:00,920 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 1: to Dayton and his wife and he started using morphine again, 238 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: and in an echo of their early marriage, Anna plan 239 00:13:08,360 --> 00:13:11,480 Speaker 1: to leave Oliver, but once again Just as she was 240 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:13,720 Speaker 1: getting up the gumption to do so, she found out 241 00:13:13,720 --> 00:13:16,480 Speaker 1: she was pregnant with their second child, and she once 242 00:13:16,520 --> 00:13:20,000 Speaker 1: again decided to stay. Their second son, Clarence, was born 243 00:13:20,000 --> 00:13:23,960 Speaker 1: on March twenty three, and Hall once again made a 244 00:13:23,960 --> 00:13:26,560 Speaker 1: go at a medical practice. But this time he shifted 245 00:13:26,559 --> 00:13:28,760 Speaker 1: gears a little bit, and he decided that he would 246 00:13:28,800 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: focus on mineral baths as a treatment. This sounds like 247 00:13:33,120 --> 00:13:36,240 Speaker 1: it wouldn't be dangerous, but these bats were incredibly hot, 248 00:13:36,360 --> 00:13:39,120 Speaker 1: and on multiple occasions Hall left patients in them too 249 00:13:39,160 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 1: long and caused serious medical problems. He was still using drugs, 250 00:13:43,480 --> 00:13:46,599 Speaker 1: which is a contributor in his neglect of his patients. 251 00:13:46,640 --> 00:13:49,959 Speaker 1: He was at times found unconscious or naked in hallways 252 00:13:49,960 --> 00:13:52,640 Speaker 1: of the office building where he practiced. At one point, 253 00:13:52,720 --> 00:13:54,800 Speaker 1: when a dentist who also had an office in the 254 00:13:54,840 --> 00:13:57,640 Speaker 1: building asked whether one of his patients had been cured, 255 00:13:58,160 --> 00:14:02,040 Speaker 1: Haw replied, Oh, yeah, I cured him all right. He 256 00:14:02,200 --> 00:14:07,520 Speaker 1: is dead, so already he sounds like a delight. He 257 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,320 Speaker 1: eventually set up a second office, so this wasn't a 258 00:14:10,360 --> 00:14:12,400 Speaker 1: move to a new office. He set up a second 259 00:14:12,440 --> 00:14:16,800 Speaker 1: branch of his existing office in Hamilton, Ohio. But do 260 00:14:17,000 --> 00:14:20,400 Speaker 1: not be uh misled. This was not a sign of 261 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:23,000 Speaker 1: a growing business or success. It was, in fact quite 262 00:14:23,000 --> 00:14:26,320 Speaker 1: the contrary. He had such a bad reputation in Dayton 263 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,720 Speaker 1: that he opened that second office in an effort to 264 00:14:28,840 --> 00:14:31,560 Speaker 1: make ends meet, hoping that he could take on patients 265 00:14:31,560 --> 00:14:34,360 Speaker 1: for his bath cures there that had not heard of 266 00:14:34,440 --> 00:14:37,640 Speaker 1: his poor treatment of others in his care. But the 267 00:14:37,760 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: second venture didn't really flourish, and Hall once again turned 268 00:14:41,640 --> 00:14:45,320 Speaker 1: to drugs as an escape. His violent outbursts once again 269 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:48,400 Speaker 1: became commonplace, and he was admitted to the Dayton State Hospital, 270 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 1: which was a new name for the same asylum he 271 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:54,000 Speaker 1: had been in before, at the request of his wife. Again. 272 00:14:54,080 --> 00:14:57,080 Speaker 1: He was released in December of nine and he restarted 273 00:14:57,120 --> 00:15:00,240 Speaker 1: his practice, started using and let his work fall up art. 274 00:15:00,640 --> 00:15:03,920 Speaker 1: And while he had been practicing in Hamilton's he mentioned 275 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,200 Speaker 1: to a businessman who was one of his patients that 276 00:15:06,320 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: he thought killing the infirm and sick medically was actually 277 00:15:10,000 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: a kindness, and that he knew how to do so, 278 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,960 Speaker 1: and that he had already ended the lives of some 279 00:15:15,080 --> 00:15:19,280 Speaker 1: of his elderly relatives. Then in nineteen o one, Dr 280 00:15:19,360 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 1: Oliver Haw vanished. Of course, he didn't really vanish off 281 00:15:22,760 --> 00:15:25,200 Speaker 1: the face of the earth. We're going to talk about 282 00:15:25,240 --> 00:15:27,080 Speaker 1: what he was doing during that time in just a 283 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,960 Speaker 1: moment while he was away from all of the people 284 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:32,080 Speaker 1: that knew him up to that point. But first we're 285 00:15:32,080 --> 00:15:44,160 Speaker 1: going to pause for a sponsor break. So it turned 286 00:15:44,200 --> 00:15:46,920 Speaker 1: out that when Oliver Hall ran away from Dayton, he 287 00:15:47,240 --> 00:15:50,320 Speaker 1: went to Milwaukee, Wisconsin, and he applied for a license 288 00:15:50,360 --> 00:15:53,520 Speaker 1: to practice medicine there, and after practicing for a few 289 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:56,920 Speaker 1: months in Milwaukee, he moved to Spooner, Wisconsin and advertised 290 00:15:57,000 --> 00:16:01,120 Speaker 1: himself as a doctor who could cure any disease. He 291 00:16:01,200 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: also got married in Chicago, Illinois, in August of nineteen 292 00:16:04,160 --> 00:16:08,120 Speaker 1: o one, to a woman named Delia Betters. Delia, for 293 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:11,640 Speaker 1: whom Oliver was a third husband, was not privy to 294 00:16:11,680 --> 00:16:14,640 Speaker 1: the information that her new groom already had a wife. 295 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,040 Speaker 1: I'm surprised people could not hear how hard my eyes 296 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,080 Speaker 1: rolled when he said a part in the part about 297 00:16:20,080 --> 00:16:22,640 Speaker 1: how he advertised himself as a doctor who could care 298 00:16:22,680 --> 00:16:28,440 Speaker 1: any disease. Yeah, we've we've been through those before. One 299 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 1: of Haw's patients and Spooner died from morphine poisoning. So 300 00:16:31,840 --> 00:16:34,400 Speaker 1: for the first time, and a string of suspicious events 301 00:16:34,520 --> 00:16:37,240 Speaker 1: doctor Hall was actually arrested and charged in the death. 302 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,760 Speaker 1: His defense was at the overdose was accidental. He was 303 00:16:40,800 --> 00:16:43,320 Speaker 1: acquitted due to lack of evidence, but he closed his 304 00:16:43,400 --> 00:16:47,960 Speaker 1: Spooner practiced and moved on to Stirring, Wisconsin and haws 305 00:16:48,000 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 1: surring office uh did uncharacteristically well for him. He had 306 00:16:52,200 --> 00:16:55,080 Speaker 1: struggled in every other office, but this one really was 307 00:16:55,080 --> 00:16:58,840 Speaker 1: was zipping right along. He still lost some patience, but 308 00:16:59,040 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: not in a way that red flagged anybody, and his 309 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:04,800 Speaker 1: clientele didn't seem to drop off because of it. He 310 00:17:04,960 --> 00:17:07,919 Speaker 1: was most assuredly still battling the demons of addiction, however, 311 00:17:08,480 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 1: and his new wife, Delia, was not tolerant of the problem. 312 00:17:12,560 --> 00:17:15,600 Speaker 1: Oliver promised you'd take a popular addiction treatment at the 313 00:17:15,640 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 1: time called the Keiley Cure, which centered on diet and 314 00:17:18,520 --> 00:17:23,439 Speaker 1: administering by chloride of gold, and Oliver vanished from Stirring 315 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,800 Speaker 1: for a month allegedly to go take this cure, though 316 00:17:25,800 --> 00:17:28,399 Speaker 1: whether he actually ever went to a clinic and received 317 00:17:28,440 --> 00:17:32,920 Speaker 1: the Keiley Cure is completely unclear. After haw and Delia reunited, 318 00:17:32,960 --> 00:17:36,320 Speaker 1: they moved to Michigan to be closer to Delia's elderly mother, 319 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:39,000 Speaker 1: but their time as a couple ended abruptly. After that, 320 00:17:39,520 --> 00:17:43,680 Speaker 1: Delia found out about Mrs Anna Haw, left Oliver and 321 00:17:43,800 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: went to Dayton to have him arrested for bigamy. She 322 00:17:46,720 --> 00:17:49,080 Speaker 1: assumed that when they split, he had gone back to 323 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,440 Speaker 1: his Ohio home, but in fact he stayed with her 324 00:17:51,520 --> 00:17:54,239 Speaker 1: mother and cared for the older woman right up un 325 00:17:54,359 --> 00:18:00,600 Speaker 1: until her sudden death in June. While in Dayton, ready 326 00:18:00,880 --> 00:18:04,600 Speaker 1: to confront all of her Haw, Delia instead found the 327 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:08,120 Speaker 1: first Mrs Haw, Anna, and when Anna found out what 328 00:18:08,160 --> 00:18:11,440 Speaker 1: was going on, she begged Delia to not go public 329 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 1: with the story of all of HER's second life out 330 00:18:13,960 --> 00:18:17,080 Speaker 1: of concern for their two children, and Delia was quite 331 00:18:17,080 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 1: moved by Anna's please, and so she decided to drop 332 00:18:19,840 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: the matter and just go home. Oliver returned to Ohio 333 00:18:23,240 --> 00:18:26,439 Speaker 1: after the death of Delia's mother and checked into another asylum, 334 00:18:26,520 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: this time in Lebanon, Ohio. While there, he became friends 335 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:33,080 Speaker 1: with the woman named Jenny Tooey and her brother, Dr 336 00:18:33,160 --> 00:18:37,159 Speaker 1: Samuel s Herman. Haw and Jenny left the sanitarium together 337 00:18:37,280 --> 00:18:39,679 Speaker 1: so that Hawk could take over as her doctor and 338 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:41,879 Speaker 1: help her with some trouble she seemed to be having 339 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,600 Speaker 1: related to her reproductive system. Yeah the wording on any 340 00:18:45,680 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 1: of the records is you know, in that sort of 341 00:18:47,960 --> 00:18:51,600 Speaker 1: clouded female trouble dealist. Yeah, so we don't really know 342 00:18:51,800 --> 00:18:56,080 Speaker 1: what the issue was. Uh. She certainly did not need 343 00:18:56,119 --> 00:18:59,119 Speaker 1: Oliver Hall for a doctor though, but he did become 344 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,720 Speaker 1: good friends with her brother, so comfortable in that friendship, 345 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:06,120 Speaker 1: in fact, with Dr Herman, that he admitted to him 346 00:19:06,160 --> 00:19:11,000 Speaker 1: that he had killed several women, performing illegal abortions on them, 347 00:19:11,040 --> 00:19:13,080 Speaker 1: and that he planned to kill his brother Jesse at 348 00:19:13,080 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 1: some point. And he also made it clear to Herman 349 00:19:15,560 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: after he told him this, that he would kill him 350 00:19:18,040 --> 00:19:22,120 Speaker 1: as well should he share this information with anyone. Unfortunately, 351 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:25,720 Speaker 1: Dr Herman's sister Jenny had developed a romantic attachment to 352 00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 1: Oliver Hall. I proposed to Jenny, and in yet another 353 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 1: case of haus life repeating itself, he set up a 354 00:19:31,359 --> 00:19:35,160 Speaker 1: new practice in Lima, Ohio, using money Jenny had inherited 355 00:19:35,160 --> 00:19:38,280 Speaker 1: when her mother died. This death actually had happened before 356 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:40,560 Speaker 1: the two of them had met. Yes, so he is 357 00:19:40,640 --> 00:19:44,600 Speaker 1: not potentially implicated in that death, but he was certainly 358 00:19:44,640 --> 00:19:47,639 Speaker 1: happy to use the inheritance from it. He was not 359 00:19:47,760 --> 00:19:52,439 Speaker 1: implicated in that death. That one Dr Herman realized that 360 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:56,000 Speaker 1: not only was Oliver has squandering his sister's fortune, he 361 00:19:56,040 --> 00:19:59,679 Speaker 1: had also gotten her addicted to cocaine and morphine. Herman 362 00:19:59,720 --> 00:20:03,480 Speaker 1: began proceedings to have himself legally appointed as Jenny's guardian 363 00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:05,760 Speaker 1: in in the hopes of getting her away from all 364 00:20:05,800 --> 00:20:08,640 Speaker 1: over Hall. But the lovebirds got wind of this plan 365 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:11,680 Speaker 1: and they ran away. They kind of did the vanishing 366 00:20:11,680 --> 00:20:14,560 Speaker 1: act that Oliver had practiced before, and this time they 367 00:20:14,600 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 1: eventually opened a saloon together in Cleveland, Ohio. By this point, 368 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:21,720 Speaker 1: things are in a weird ceedy whirlwind for Haw. He 369 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: continued to inject his paramour with drugs, which she told 370 00:20:25,320 --> 00:20:27,720 Speaker 1: their business partner in the saloon she didn't want, and 371 00:20:27,760 --> 00:20:30,800 Speaker 1: a young woman disappeared while she was living with Jenny 372 00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: and Oliver. The pair were arrested for keeping a house 373 00:20:34,320 --> 00:20:38,200 Speaker 1: of prostitution, but after being issued a fine, business continued 374 00:20:38,280 --> 00:20:41,280 Speaker 1: as usual. Haw, who was living under the name Twee 375 00:20:41,359 --> 00:20:44,200 Speaker 1: at this time and claiming that Jenny was his aunt, 376 00:20:44,520 --> 00:20:47,840 Speaker 1: was rarely sober and often found passed out in random 377 00:20:47,880 --> 00:20:50,800 Speaker 1: spots about the town. Yeah, this is such a hotbed 378 00:20:50,840 --> 00:20:54,679 Speaker 1: of weird at this point, Like he's with this woman romantically, 379 00:20:54,760 --> 00:20:58,439 Speaker 1: but tells everyone she's his aunt, and she's also working 380 00:20:58,480 --> 00:21:01,919 Speaker 1: as a prostitute with him, as seems, and it's a 381 00:21:01,960 --> 00:21:06,679 Speaker 1: big ugly miss um. However, to make matters even creepier, 382 00:21:06,880 --> 00:21:10,639 Speaker 1: hob began to practice medicine from the saloon, although the 383 00:21:10,720 --> 00:21:13,320 Speaker 1: suspicion was actually that he was purposely trying to kill 384 00:21:13,359 --> 00:21:17,480 Speaker 1: patients with drug injections in order to rob them and 385 00:21:17,560 --> 00:21:21,120 Speaker 1: to make matters even grosser. By all accounts, this establishment 386 00:21:21,160 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 1: was unbelievably filthy, and it's sordid reputation had become such 387 00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:29,479 Speaker 1: common knowledge that the place was finally rated. Jenny two 388 00:21:29,800 --> 00:21:32,880 Speaker 1: was in terrible shape when the authorities arrived. She was 389 00:21:32,880 --> 00:21:36,760 Speaker 1: wasting away, nearly unconscious and covered in needle. Marks Hall 390 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:40,119 Speaker 1: was charged with disorderly conduct. He pled guilty and was 391 00:21:40,160 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 1: imprisoned for thirty days. His wailing from withdrawal while in 392 00:21:44,640 --> 00:21:47,639 Speaker 1: custody was so unbearable to everyone in the jail that 393 00:21:47,680 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: a doctor was called to give him injections of morphinite 394 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: regular intervals. Eventually, he was sent to Cleveland on the 395 00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: city's dime and with a small amount of money, per 396 00:21:57,040 --> 00:21:59,600 Speaker 1: an agreement that he would check himself into a treatment 397 00:21:59,640 --> 00:22:03,440 Speaker 1: facility for his addiction. Do you think he did that thing, 398 00:22:04,280 --> 00:22:08,399 Speaker 1: he did not. Instead, he opened another medical practice. I 399 00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: don't even I didn't even count them because there's so many. 400 00:22:12,560 --> 00:22:15,399 Speaker 1: When he got to Cleveland and he sent for Jenny 401 00:22:15,440 --> 00:22:17,359 Speaker 1: to join him, but he did not know that she 402 00:22:17,400 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: had actually died at that point. And after that, he 403 00:22:21,119 --> 00:22:23,480 Speaker 1: himself was in and out of hospitals for treatment. He 404 00:22:23,560 --> 00:22:26,440 Speaker 1: kind of started drifting from city to city. He would 405 00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:29,119 Speaker 1: open medical offices, but they would close almost as soon 406 00:22:29,160 --> 00:22:32,040 Speaker 1: as he set them up. Probably he was opening them 407 00:22:32,040 --> 00:22:35,640 Speaker 1: just so he could place orders for drugs. I really 408 00:22:35,640 --> 00:22:42,320 Speaker 1: wish there had been any effective treatment for morphine addiction. Yeah. Yeah, 409 00:22:42,600 --> 00:22:44,880 Speaker 1: they tried lots of things, but none of them were 410 00:22:44,920 --> 00:22:48,480 Speaker 1: really cures so much as I have an idea that 411 00:22:49,080 --> 00:22:53,560 Speaker 1: that was not really working. Eventually, after straying of troubles 412 00:22:53,600 --> 00:22:56,199 Speaker 1: just like those we've already talked about, he ended up 413 00:22:56,240 --> 00:23:00,280 Speaker 1: back in Dayton, Ohio, living with his parents. Anna, however, 414 00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:03,840 Speaker 1: back to the first wife, refused to listen to live 415 00:23:03,880 --> 00:23:05,800 Speaker 1: with him. He seemed to be in a new phase 416 00:23:05,840 --> 00:23:08,679 Speaker 1: of life and often told people as much. He spoke 417 00:23:08,760 --> 00:23:11,520 Speaker 1: openly about his addictions and how he had put all 418 00:23:11,560 --> 00:23:15,679 Speaker 1: of that behind him. When Anna filed for divorce, again 419 00:23:15,880 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: on September five. It took Oliver by surprise. Uh. He 420 00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 1: confronted her and he told her he would kill her 421 00:23:24,840 --> 00:23:28,199 Speaker 1: if she didn't withdraw the filing, but she refused. He 422 00:23:28,280 --> 00:23:31,680 Speaker 1: himself attempted suicide by taking a hundred and fifty grains 423 00:23:31,720 --> 00:23:36,280 Speaker 1: of the hypnotic drug trigonal, but that did not kill him. 424 00:23:36,440 --> 00:23:39,359 Speaker 1: There's actually some debate over whether or not he knew 425 00:23:39,359 --> 00:23:42,480 Speaker 1: that it would not kill him. Not long after this, 426 00:23:42,720 --> 00:23:44,879 Speaker 1: Oliver found out that he had been cut out if 427 00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,560 Speaker 1: his parents will and that everything would go to his 428 00:23:47,640 --> 00:23:50,919 Speaker 1: brother Jesse. After a heated argument with his father, he 429 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,480 Speaker 1: told a family friend that he would kill them all 430 00:23:53,520 --> 00:23:55,960 Speaker 1: if they didn't change the will to include him again. 431 00:23:57,400 --> 00:24:00,200 Speaker 1: I like how that's just his casual reaction and like 432 00:24:00,240 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: what you did, I'll kill you. That's just how he 433 00:24:02,800 --> 00:24:05,640 Speaker 1: goes about his life at this point. Uh. He soon 434 00:24:05,720 --> 00:24:09,879 Speaker 1: placed a large rush order for hiocene hydrobromine with a 435 00:24:09,880 --> 00:24:13,439 Speaker 1: medical supplier in Cleveland. So remember that from earlier in 436 00:24:13,440 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 1: the episode, he was still on file as a physician 437 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,240 Speaker 1: with that medical supplier, and so the order was shipped 438 00:24:19,240 --> 00:24:22,119 Speaker 1: to Dayton, and he also purchased a larger than normal 439 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,879 Speaker 1: supply of oil for the family house when the vendor 440 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,600 Speaker 1: came to visit on his normal rounds. Not long after 441 00:24:28,680 --> 00:24:32,760 Speaker 1: midnight on November all A Raja banged on a neighbor's 442 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:35,760 Speaker 1: door to tell them that his parents home was on fire. 443 00:24:36,320 --> 00:24:39,080 Speaker 1: On the house initially didn't appear to be in flames, 444 00:24:39,480 --> 00:24:43,520 Speaker 1: a trail of oil roughly eight inches wide ran through 445 00:24:43,560 --> 00:24:47,320 Speaker 1: the house and was indeed burning. When Oliver was asked 446 00:24:47,359 --> 00:24:50,399 Speaker 1: if everyone got out, he said that they had, and 447 00:24:50,440 --> 00:24:53,520 Speaker 1: then neighbors began running into the house to try to 448 00:24:53,640 --> 00:24:57,439 Speaker 1: save what they could of the possessions. So there's a 449 00:24:57,480 --> 00:25:00,280 Speaker 1: weird thing that happens here. And yes, that is weird. 450 00:25:01,000 --> 00:25:03,000 Speaker 1: I do mean that it's weird, even in the context 451 00:25:03,040 --> 00:25:06,080 Speaker 1: of all of this madness that is his life. Where 452 00:25:06,600 --> 00:25:09,760 Speaker 1: when additional neighbors arrived, as other men were running in 453 00:25:09,800 --> 00:25:13,359 Speaker 1: and out of the house, Hall told those new arrivals 454 00:25:13,359 --> 00:25:16,399 Speaker 1: that his family was trapped inside. And when the blaze 455 00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 1: became too dangerous and the men who had been working 456 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:21,800 Speaker 1: to save any of those valuables all came out, they 457 00:25:21,800 --> 00:25:23,880 Speaker 1: were questioned as to why they didn't try to save 458 00:25:23,920 --> 00:25:26,879 Speaker 1: the family, And when one of the men, Thomas Farrell, 459 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,680 Speaker 1: who had been running in and out of this burning house. 460 00:25:29,880 --> 00:25:34,000 Speaker 1: Confronted Hall about having said everyone was out, the doctor replied, 461 00:25:34,760 --> 00:25:37,200 Speaker 1: I know that I did, but they are all in there, 462 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:40,320 Speaker 1: and in there in this case meant the house in 463 00:25:40,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: a back bedroom that he was gesturing to. There was 464 00:25:44,080 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: so much confusion going on with the house on fire 465 00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,680 Speaker 1: that it seems like nobody really stopped to think about 466 00:25:50,840 --> 00:25:54,520 Speaker 1: the weirdness of his ever shifting story. The flames were 467 00:25:54,560 --> 00:25:57,119 Speaker 1: so great at this point that really no one dared 468 00:25:57,160 --> 00:26:00,639 Speaker 1: go into the burning house again. Hall was taken to 469 00:26:00,680 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: a neighbor's house and treated for a burn on his leg, 470 00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:06,639 Speaker 1: and later a doctor was sent for who treated the 471 00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: blistering burns on his leg again and gave him a 472 00:26:09,359 --> 00:26:12,600 Speaker 1: pain killer that was not morphine or cocaine, specifically at 473 00:26:12,640 --> 00:26:16,240 Speaker 1: Haw's request. And meanwhile, this fire was still burning at 474 00:26:16,240 --> 00:26:18,399 Speaker 1: this point, it was not going to be put out. 475 00:26:18,440 --> 00:26:23,280 Speaker 1: They were waiting for it to burn through. Eventually, spectators 476 00:26:23,280 --> 00:26:26,160 Speaker 1: could see the bodies of the Haw family falling one 477 00:26:26,200 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: by one through a burned floor under the bedroom down 478 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:33,160 Speaker 1: into the cellar below. Hall was admitted to the hospital 479 00:26:33,240 --> 00:26:35,919 Speaker 1: under the care of Dr Fred C. Weaver, who had 480 00:26:35,920 --> 00:26:39,919 Speaker 1: actually been a classmate of his at Miami Medical College. Again, 481 00:26:40,080 --> 00:26:42,520 Speaker 1: Hall was adamant that while he needed something for the 482 00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:46,359 Speaker 1: pain from his burns, he would not take morphine. This 483 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:51,000 Speaker 1: is where her Holly's favorite thing to do. We are 484 00:26:51,040 --> 00:26:56,800 Speaker 1: going to Cliff hang you uh awaiting what happens next. 485 00:26:57,400 --> 00:27:01,040 Speaker 1: We're going to talk about the investigation of this incredibly 486 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:05,880 Speaker 1: suspicious fire and the trial that followed, and things relating 487 00:27:05,920 --> 00:27:10,560 Speaker 1: to the deaths of the family in our next episode. Yeah, 488 00:27:10,760 --> 00:27:12,760 Speaker 1: you have some listener mail before we call it a day, 489 00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,639 Speaker 1: and it's not grizzly at all. I have a couple 490 00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:22,000 Speaker 1: of pieces, as I wanted to do lately. One is, 491 00:27:22,200 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 1: these are actually two comments that were made on our 492 00:27:24,400 --> 00:27:27,920 Speaker 1: Facebook page about our knitting episode, and I just wanted 493 00:27:27,920 --> 00:27:29,639 Speaker 1: to point them out because they brought new information the 494 00:27:29,720 --> 00:27:31,640 Speaker 1: light that I had not thought about or that wasn't 495 00:27:31,680 --> 00:27:34,399 Speaker 1: in the episode. One was from our listener Margaret, and 496 00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:36,920 Speaker 1: she said a newer material the knitting needles are made 497 00:27:36,920 --> 00:27:40,160 Speaker 1: out of is carbon fiber composits, just like jet fighters. 498 00:27:41,040 --> 00:27:43,000 Speaker 1: I didn't know that. I didn't either, and then I 499 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,879 Speaker 1: wondered why I didn't super strong. Another listener commented that 500 00:27:48,000 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: sometimes depending on the fiber that you select and you're 501 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,720 Speaker 1: knitting style. It can kind of create and nails on 502 00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,159 Speaker 1: a chalkboard situation, but that they are very smooth and 503 00:27:57,520 --> 00:28:00,560 Speaker 1: a lot of people love them. So another one is 504 00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:05,320 Speaker 1: from our listener. I'm hoping I pronounced its correctly arian uh, 505 00:28:05,320 --> 00:28:08,360 Speaker 1: and she commented on the same thing as someone who spins. 506 00:28:08,440 --> 00:28:11,640 Speaker 1: I'd also like to add that elasticity is impacted by 507 00:28:11,640 --> 00:28:14,199 Speaker 1: the texture of the fiber and how the fiber is spun. 508 00:28:14,680 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: It's not really important to the overall story, but I 509 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:20,040 Speaker 1: thought that you might want to know. Find smooth fibers 510 00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: like a marino tend to make for fabrics with more 511 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:27,240 Speaker 1: drape and less stretch crinkly fibers. She herself fell in 512 00:28:27,240 --> 00:28:29,920 Speaker 1: love with a clute forest bfl cross breed. Sheep's wool 513 00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:32,520 Speaker 1: will give more bounce to a yarn spun at the 514 00:28:32,560 --> 00:28:35,439 Speaker 1: same ratio. It's a very cool aspect to knitting, weaving, 515 00:28:35,480 --> 00:28:39,040 Speaker 1: and crocheting, and it has driven nifty innovations in breeding 516 00:28:39,080 --> 00:28:41,600 Speaker 1: over the millennia. I presume in breeding of sheep to 517 00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,200 Speaker 1: create different types of wool. So that's kind of cool 518 00:28:44,200 --> 00:28:47,760 Speaker 1: information that I didn't stumble across in my research, and 519 00:28:47,800 --> 00:28:51,680 Speaker 1: I like it. The other thing I wanted to uh mention, 520 00:28:51,800 --> 00:28:53,520 Speaker 1: it's not so much listener mail, but we got an 521 00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:56,880 Speaker 1: awesome gift while we were in Chicago recently. Our listener 522 00:28:56,880 --> 00:28:59,560 Speaker 1: Brian DuPont, and I normally we don't do last names 523 00:28:59,600 --> 00:29:02,720 Speaker 1: just for safety, but as he is publishing under that name, YEP, 524 00:29:02,840 --> 00:29:05,520 Speaker 1: I figured it's safe. That's different. Brian DuPont, who is 525 00:29:05,560 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: an artist, gave us a bunch of comics that he's drawn, 526 00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 1: including one that features Edward Binny as a character. Yeah, 527 00:29:14,560 --> 00:29:16,800 Speaker 1: there are lots of historical figures in them. This one 528 00:29:16,920 --> 00:29:19,640 Speaker 1: is a series called pacos Bill and it has Tesla 529 00:29:19,800 --> 00:29:22,840 Speaker 1: in it and other people that you have heard of 530 00:29:22,880 --> 00:29:26,600 Speaker 1: on this podcast, including Posters of Orble and Wilbur WRIGHTE. 531 00:29:27,320 --> 00:29:29,880 Speaker 1: So it's very cool. Thank you so much. Brian. I 532 00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: felt bad because he had emailed us about it and 533 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:34,200 Speaker 1: I it was one of those emails that I was like, 534 00:29:34,240 --> 00:29:35,920 Speaker 1: I will reply to that and then when I have 535 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:38,160 Speaker 1: a minute to think about it, and then that minute 536 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:41,400 Speaker 1: never materialized. Yeah. The thing I feel guilty about is that, 537 00:29:41,880 --> 00:29:44,880 Speaker 1: as we have discussed, I don't work from the Atlanta 538 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,080 Speaker 1: office anymore, so sometimes when I come to visit, which 539 00:29:48,120 --> 00:29:51,160 Speaker 1: I do pretty regularly, I will get here, and my 540 00:29:51,280 --> 00:29:54,880 Speaker 1: desk is covered in listener presence, and often I'm like, 541 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: who do I think? And I'm like, I don't know. 542 00:29:57,600 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 1: I didn't remember to put their name on it, So 543 00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,600 Speaker 1: that's really mine. Didn't make you feel bad in front 544 00:30:02,600 --> 00:30:05,720 Speaker 1: of everyone. That's not nice. It's okay. I'm not so 545 00:30:05,880 --> 00:30:08,000 Speaker 1: organized with those things. If you were the person who 546 00:30:08,040 --> 00:30:11,240 Speaker 1: sent us beautiful metal bookmarks, drop us a note. Please? 547 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:13,720 Speaker 1: Oh yes, you really do want to drop us a note. 548 00:30:13,800 --> 00:30:17,560 Speaker 1: Tracy has plans uh. So thank you so much to 549 00:30:17,640 --> 00:30:20,440 Speaker 1: Brian and to our listeners that wrote in about their 550 00:30:20,480 --> 00:30:23,560 Speaker 1: knitting knowledge. We appreciate it. 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