1 00:00:10,400 --> 00:00:12,360 Speaker 1: And just like that, we're back another edition of the 2 00:00:12,440 --> 00:00:15,880 Speaker 1: Late Kick Extra podcast Thursday Morning, November eighteenth, Dear Old Lord, 3 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:17,160 Speaker 1: twenty twenty one. 4 00:00:17,280 --> 00:00:18,640 Speaker 2: We've got coaches to hire. 5 00:00:18,720 --> 00:00:21,360 Speaker 1: We've got apparently a lot of money to spend to 6 00:00:21,400 --> 00:00:23,720 Speaker 1: do so, because we're all rich around here now, and 7 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:26,120 Speaker 1: we've got a loaded mail bag to sort it all out. 8 00:00:26,239 --> 00:00:28,920 Speaker 1: At late kick Josh on Twitter, at late kick Josh 9 00:00:28,960 --> 00:00:32,040 Speaker 1: on Instagram. That's how you can submit the question Tuesday 10 00:00:32,040 --> 00:00:34,360 Speaker 1: morning and Thursday morning. That's what we do around here. 11 00:00:34,520 --> 00:00:37,040 Speaker 1: It's only in the podcast feed. You will not find 12 00:00:37,080 --> 00:00:39,280 Speaker 1: this on YouTube. You will not find this anywhere else. 13 00:00:39,320 --> 00:00:41,880 Speaker 1: It's just me here in Nashville, and it's me fielding 14 00:00:41,920 --> 00:00:45,839 Speaker 1: your questions from Evansville, Indiana, to all beneath Georgia and 15 00:00:45,880 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: anywhere in between. 16 00:00:47,040 --> 00:00:49,320 Speaker 2: Day. Actually, now that I think about it, that. 17 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,040 Speaker 1: Really doesn't cast that wide a net. Hold on a second, 18 00:00:52,120 --> 00:00:58,279 Speaker 1: So let's go anywhere from Danville, Virginia, to oh. 19 00:00:57,800 --> 00:00:59,040 Speaker 2: Man somewhere out west. 20 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Let's go bake California, Danville to Bakersfield, never we're in between. 21 00:01:03,160 --> 00:01:03,600 Speaker 2: There we go. 22 00:01:03,680 --> 00:01:06,600 Speaker 1: Now, we've got everybody virtually under the sun, and we 23 00:01:06,640 --> 00:01:09,399 Speaker 1: have got some things to discuss. This morning, a lot 24 00:01:09,400 --> 00:01:11,920 Speaker 1: of you were asking about mel Tucker and all of 25 00:01:11,959 --> 00:01:15,760 Speaker 1: these headlines about seven million dollars, How about eight million? 26 00:01:15,959 --> 00:01:18,520 Speaker 2: Do I hear a nine million? Well, we're hearing it all. 27 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: And the LSU job's open, and we've got the USC 28 00:01:21,920 --> 00:01:24,199 Speaker 1: job open, and we may have the Florida job open, 29 00:01:24,240 --> 00:01:26,360 Speaker 1: we may have the Miami job open. I think you 30 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:29,080 Speaker 1: kids out there, you kiddos, you need to take note 31 00:01:29,120 --> 00:01:32,080 Speaker 1: of this. I know we got a huge, huge college audience. 32 00:01:32,480 --> 00:01:34,160 Speaker 1: So some of you guys are all of you guys, 33 00:01:34,240 --> 00:01:35,920 Speaker 1: Let's be real. If you're in college, you are new 34 00:01:35,920 --> 00:01:39,160 Speaker 1: to the game. You have lived on this planet twenty years. 35 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:41,800 Speaker 1: Some of you may be a little bit longer. You 36 00:01:41,880 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: have not seen many of these coaching cycles because I 37 00:01:44,240 --> 00:01:45,880 Speaker 1: think when you were seven years old, you weren't really 38 00:01:45,920 --> 00:01:48,160 Speaker 1: paying attention to this. So you got about a decade, 39 00:01:48,280 --> 00:01:51,920 Speaker 1: maybe five years under your belt of watching the coaching carousel. 40 00:01:52,360 --> 00:01:54,760 Speaker 1: And once you get a little seasoning on yourself, you 41 00:01:54,800 --> 00:01:56,960 Speaker 1: get to be thirty five or forty five or fifty five, 42 00:01:57,360 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 1: I think you're going to look back on this cycle 43 00:01:59,160 --> 00:02:01,240 Speaker 1: and we all may talk about this twenty twenty one 44 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:04,160 Speaker 1: coaching cycle. Think about this the same way we talk 45 00:02:04,200 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: about college football two thousand and seven, when we talk 46 00:02:06,920 --> 00:02:10,520 Speaker 1: about crazy seasons, we go back to seven, because that's 47 00:02:10,560 --> 00:02:13,359 Speaker 1: the year that everybody that otherwise would never be involved 48 00:02:13,400 --> 00:02:15,880 Speaker 1: in the top five and the college football well at 49 00:02:15,919 --> 00:02:19,399 Speaker 1: that time, the BCS discussion was in the discussion, this 50 00:02:19,480 --> 00:02:21,360 Speaker 1: is going to be that year. I don't care if 51 00:02:21,360 --> 00:02:23,680 Speaker 1: it's twenty twenty five or twenty forty five that you 52 00:02:23,720 --> 00:02:25,920 Speaker 1: look back on and you say, twenty twenty one was 53 00:02:26,000 --> 00:02:30,639 Speaker 1: the benchmark that was the standard for crazy college football searches. 54 00:02:31,000 --> 00:02:32,760 Speaker 1: And we're right smack dab in the middle of it. 55 00:02:33,040 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: And as you can clearly tell by the names I 56 00:02:35,360 --> 00:02:37,560 Speaker 1: just listed, I don't even think we're in the heart 57 00:02:37,600 --> 00:02:40,080 Speaker 1: of it yet. Yeah, LSU and USC are open. Can 58 00:02:40,120 --> 00:02:43,000 Speaker 1: you imagine Miami and or Florida coming open along with it? 59 00:02:43,040 --> 00:02:47,280 Speaker 1: We got Virginia Tech open, TCUs open, TCU. While maybe 60 00:02:47,320 --> 00:02:50,560 Speaker 1: not fishing from the same pool that let's say LSU is, 61 00:02:50,919 --> 00:02:54,280 Speaker 1: TCU is a wildly attractive job, much more attractive so 62 00:02:54,360 --> 00:02:58,000 Speaker 1: in the coaching world than maybe the average fan perceives 63 00:02:58,040 --> 00:03:00,280 Speaker 1: it to be. So there's a lot going on behind 64 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,280 Speaker 1: the scenes. We are going to be talking about it 65 00:03:02,320 --> 00:03:04,320 Speaker 1: a lot and I've got to balance it. This is 66 00:03:04,320 --> 00:03:05,919 Speaker 1: where it gets a little difficult. This is where I'm 67 00:03:05,919 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 1: going to use you guys a whole lot to gauge 68 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:10,600 Speaker 1: traffic patterns because I'm building the shows for you. 69 00:03:10,560 --> 00:03:12,040 Speaker 2: You've got to let me know what you care about. 70 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,600 Speaker 1: Right now, you're telling me you care a lot about 71 00:03:13,639 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: coaching surges, and I get why. But we have to 72 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,799 Speaker 1: also responsibly balance it with talking about football. I mean, 73 00:03:18,840 --> 00:03:21,360 Speaker 1: because that's where we have built this entire season towards 74 00:03:21,400 --> 00:03:23,560 Speaker 1: we're getting towards the end of the year. We're getting 75 00:03:23,560 --> 00:03:26,359 Speaker 1: towards conference championship Saturday, and it's a Friday in the 76 00:03:26,400 --> 00:03:29,560 Speaker 1: PAC twelve, So we got to fit it in. And 77 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:31,239 Speaker 1: this is where we get really lucky that we don't 78 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,160 Speaker 1: have to do a thirty minute show or an hour 79 00:03:33,280 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: show like tonight on Late Cack Live. We can go 80 00:03:36,240 --> 00:03:38,520 Speaker 1: four hours if we need to. Probably won't, but can 81 00:03:38,560 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 1: if we need to. So let's dive in. The mail 82 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: bag is fraught and what am I about to say? 83 00:03:43,920 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 1: You know how rarely I use that word. It is 84 00:03:46,040 --> 00:03:49,800 Speaker 1: fraught with people asking whether Meltucker is being overpaid by 85 00:03:49,840 --> 00:03:53,400 Speaker 1: Michigan State. The reports are it's not finalized yet, but 86 00:03:53,440 --> 00:03:56,960 Speaker 1: the reports are Meltucker is gonna sign some deal in 87 00:03:57,000 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: the neighborhood of making him nine million plus dollars a year. 88 00:04:01,760 --> 00:04:04,040 Speaker 2: That's right, you heard me correctly. 89 00:04:03,640 --> 00:04:06,200 Speaker 1: Kiddo's nine million dollars a year for a guy who 90 00:04:06,280 --> 00:04:08,920 Speaker 1: had a sub five hundred record as a head coach 91 00:04:08,960 --> 00:04:11,800 Speaker 1: coming into this year. That is not to disparage the 92 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:14,840 Speaker 1: name of mel Tucker. I love Meltucker. That's to let 93 00:04:14,880 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: you know where we are. It used to be that 94 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:19,240 Speaker 1: you had to put years and years and years of 95 00:04:19,279 --> 00:04:21,560 Speaker 1: proven results on the board. Well those days are passed, 96 00:04:21,839 --> 00:04:23,600 Speaker 1: and now you can make as much money as Nick 97 00:04:23,600 --> 00:04:26,640 Speaker 1: Saban for doing one one hundredth of what Nick Saban 98 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,360 Speaker 1: has done. What contributes to that? Because a lot of 99 00:04:29,400 --> 00:04:31,440 Speaker 1: you were asking, do I think he's overpaid? No, I 100 00:04:31,440 --> 00:04:34,920 Speaker 1: don't think any coach is overpaid. You are making what 101 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:37,440 Speaker 1: people are willing to pay you. It's the same thing 102 00:04:37,480 --> 00:04:40,160 Speaker 1: in my world. There are people in my world who 103 00:04:40,200 --> 00:04:43,360 Speaker 1: would say this news anchor or that talk show host 104 00:04:43,400 --> 00:04:44,120 Speaker 1: is overpaid. 105 00:04:44,160 --> 00:04:44,760 Speaker 2: Well, no they're not. 106 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:49,040 Speaker 1: They are worth exactly what someone's willing to pay them. Conversely, 107 00:04:49,560 --> 00:04:51,760 Speaker 1: you may not be underpaid either. If you are, then 108 00:04:51,800 --> 00:04:53,840 Speaker 1: get a better agent. I don't even use an agent. 109 00:04:53,880 --> 00:04:57,520 Speaker 1: I don't have one. I represent myself. But I also 110 00:04:57,640 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: know what I think my value is. If I take 111 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:01,840 Speaker 1: it out under the open market and no one agrees 112 00:05:01,880 --> 00:05:05,480 Speaker 1: with me, well guess what. I may have overvalued myself. 113 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:07,159 Speaker 1: They may not want to underpay me. I may have 114 00:05:07,200 --> 00:05:10,520 Speaker 1: overvalued myself. Well, conversely, if I take myself out unto 115 00:05:10,560 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 1: the open market, and one company offers me one point 116 00:05:13,760 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 1: seventy five, and then another company offers me two point two, 117 00:05:16,080 --> 00:05:18,840 Speaker 1: and let's just hope our future negotiations go parallel to 118 00:05:18,880 --> 00:05:21,799 Speaker 1: the numbers I'm presenting, by the way, hope everyone's listening. 119 00:05:22,279 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 1: Then I am not overpaid. If that's what they're willing 120 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:28,520 Speaker 1: to pay me, I'm not overvalued. That's the way value works. 121 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 1: What is someone willing to pay you? That's your value. 122 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:34,240 Speaker 1: But it's always important to note your value is not 123 00:05:34,320 --> 00:05:38,720 Speaker 1: strictly determined by your merit or your resume, your wins 124 00:05:38,760 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 1: and losses record, how many top five classes have you recruited? 125 00:05:42,560 --> 00:05:43,600 Speaker 2: Oh, that's all part of it. 126 00:05:44,000 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 1: But if that were the case, Mel Tucker would not 127 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:47,640 Speaker 1: even be in this conversation right now. He just doesn't 128 00:05:47,640 --> 00:05:49,600 Speaker 1: have a long enough resume period. He has not been 129 00:05:49,640 --> 00:05:51,640 Speaker 1: a head coach for long enough. So what does it 130 00:05:51,720 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: have to do with Well, it has to do with 131 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:56,200 Speaker 1: the market and market forces. And right now it is 132 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:59,520 Speaker 1: the best time you could ever have picked to be 133 00:05:59,600 --> 00:06:01,560 Speaker 1: hot as a name. It is the best time you 134 00:06:01,640 --> 00:06:04,480 Speaker 1: ever could have picked to be in play for one 135 00:06:04,600 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: or multiple programs. I would argue it's probably one of 136 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: the worst times to have a job opening. But if 137 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,919 Speaker 1: money is not an issue, then it itself is not 138 00:06:13,000 --> 00:06:15,120 Speaker 1: an issue. However, I want you to listen to that 139 00:06:15,120 --> 00:06:19,440 Speaker 1: phrase very carefully. When I say money's not an issue, 140 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:21,480 Speaker 1: what do you think to yourself. Let's say you're a 141 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:24,960 Speaker 1: fan of a program and I, as a booster of 142 00:06:25,000 --> 00:06:28,000 Speaker 1: your program, or as the ad or a reporter close 143 00:06:28,040 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 1: to your program that talks to those people. I am 144 00:06:30,240 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 1: saying money is not an issue that makes you swell 145 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,480 Speaker 1: with pride, doesn't it. Well, it's also the answer as 146 00:06:35,480 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: to why we're at the point we're at, And I'm 147 00:06:37,320 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 1: going to get to that a little bit more tonight. 148 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:41,600 Speaker 2: But I just want to I'm not mad at it. 149 00:06:41,640 --> 00:06:42,800 Speaker 2: I like it. It's good for us. 150 00:06:43,560 --> 00:06:46,320 Speaker 1: I just think it's so funny how in this world 151 00:06:46,440 --> 00:06:50,440 Speaker 1: you have very, very elite seven eight nine figure net 152 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:54,760 Speaker 1: worth businessmen and women who completely forego every bit of 153 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 1: economic sense and fiscal responsibility that got them to their 154 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:02,480 Speaker 1: status in life when it comes to negotiating a football contract, 155 00:07:02,600 --> 00:07:05,080 Speaker 1: and it's because passion and emotion get involved. 156 00:07:05,240 --> 00:07:08,560 Speaker 2: It's beautiful. Again, it sounds like I'm speaking ill of it. 157 00:07:08,600 --> 00:07:08,920 Speaker 2: I'm not. 158 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,200 Speaker 1: This is great for us. I hope it continues forever. 159 00:07:11,240 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 1: It's great for us. But I will say, if you 160 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,480 Speaker 1: were to bring an economics professor in the room and 161 00:07:17,520 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: he were to look at this, if you were to 162 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,760 Speaker 1: bring an economist period into the room and he or 163 00:07:21,760 --> 00:07:25,280 Speaker 1: she were to look at this, they would say, well, yes, 164 00:07:25,400 --> 00:07:27,680 Speaker 1: there is a flaw or two in this logic. And 165 00:07:27,720 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: the flaw is there isn't financial sense and fiscal logic 166 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:31,800 Speaker 1: and responsibility behind this. 167 00:07:32,080 --> 00:07:34,520 Speaker 2: But hey, that's okay. You see the national debt lately. 168 00:07:34,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 1: You can make it in this country having no fiscal responsibility. 169 00:07:37,720 --> 00:07:40,080 Speaker 1: Of course, the key difference there is when you are 170 00:07:40,120 --> 00:07:43,680 Speaker 1: a congressman on Capitol Hill, you're spending money you didn't earn, 171 00:07:43,960 --> 00:07:46,040 Speaker 1: that is not coming out of your pocket, Whereas in 172 00:07:46,080 --> 00:07:48,640 Speaker 1: a coaching search, a lot of these folks are spending 173 00:07:48,680 --> 00:07:51,200 Speaker 1: money that they earned that is going to come out 174 00:07:51,240 --> 00:07:53,520 Speaker 1: of their pocket. So how do they justify it? Well, 175 00:07:53,560 --> 00:07:56,200 Speaker 1: it gets really easy once you understand how this works. 176 00:07:56,240 --> 00:07:57,920 Speaker 1: I'm going to talk about that a little bit more tonight. 177 00:07:58,160 --> 00:08:00,480 Speaker 1: But my short answer, Kevin and I number of you 178 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:03,000 Speaker 1: who asked, No, I don't think Meltucker would be overpaid. 179 00:08:03,360 --> 00:08:05,760 Speaker 1: Michigan State's not paying him out of the kindness of 180 00:08:05,760 --> 00:08:08,760 Speaker 1: their heart. They're paying him in theory if this is finalized, 181 00:08:08,800 --> 00:08:11,160 Speaker 1: because that's what they think he's worth, and that's what 182 00:08:11,200 --> 00:08:13,440 Speaker 1: they think it's gonna take to keep him at Michigan 183 00:08:13,520 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 1: State long term. 184 00:08:14,640 --> 00:08:17,400 Speaker 2: Therefore, that's your value. So no, I don't think he's overpaid. 185 00:08:17,600 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: I can get another MILLI and a half to two 186 00:08:19,560 --> 00:08:21,200 Speaker 1: milli per year for him for all I care, he 187 00:08:21,200 --> 00:08:24,040 Speaker 1: still wouldn't be overpaid. That's what the market has decided 188 00:08:24,040 --> 00:08:27,000 Speaker 1: he's worth. That's what he's worth. It's a big number, though, 189 00:08:27,360 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 1: really big number. What I hope happens, or I guess rather, 190 00:08:30,040 --> 00:08:32,960 Speaker 1: what I hope doesn't happen is I hope people don't 191 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:35,360 Speaker 1: pay Meltucker that kind of money and then think that 192 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:38,079 Speaker 1: all of a sudden they're allowed to expect something more 193 00:08:38,120 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: than what he's capable of producing Meltucker's only capable of 194 00:08:41,559 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 1: what he's capable of. That's all any of us are 195 00:08:43,360 --> 00:08:46,040 Speaker 1: ever capable of. No one gets to come to you 196 00:08:46,840 --> 00:08:50,480 Speaker 1: if your vertical jump is thirty six inches and say hey, Josh, 197 00:08:50,520 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: I will pay you five million dollars per year to 198 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:56,560 Speaker 1: come jump for me. I say, okay, I'll take it. 199 00:08:56,600 --> 00:08:58,920 Speaker 1: That's five million more than I was making. And then 200 00:08:58,920 --> 00:09:00,320 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, I come over and I do 201 00:09:00,360 --> 00:09:02,400 Speaker 1: my vertical jump for him, and it's thirty six inches, 202 00:09:02,760 --> 00:09:05,360 Speaker 1: and they say we're gonna need more. And I would 203 00:09:05,360 --> 00:09:08,320 Speaker 1: probably initially say okay, boss, and then I would jump again. 204 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:11,280 Speaker 1: Oh maybe I get thirty six five and that goes 205 00:09:11,280 --> 00:09:13,600 Speaker 1: well beyond my physical limitations thus far in life. 206 00:09:14,000 --> 00:09:16,200 Speaker 2: And they still shake their head, Nope, we need more. 207 00:09:16,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 1: This guy over here from a country you can't even pronounce, 208 00:09:19,000 --> 00:09:21,760 Speaker 1: he's doing forty seven inch verticals and you're only giving 209 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,520 Speaker 1: us thirty six. We're paying you that money for a reason, Josh, 210 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,199 Speaker 1: we need a higher vertical jump. Well, I keep going, 211 00:09:27,280 --> 00:09:30,000 Speaker 1: keep going, and keep going. Guess what I'm doing. I'm 212 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,000 Speaker 1: hitting thirty six inches every time, And the reason is 213 00:09:33,000 --> 00:09:36,120 Speaker 1: because that is my maximum capability. If they walk up 214 00:09:36,120 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: to me, having known what my maximum capability is, and 215 00:09:39,240 --> 00:09:42,480 Speaker 1: say you're fired because you underachieved relative to what we were 216 00:09:42,400 --> 00:09:42,760 Speaker 1: paying you. 217 00:09:42,840 --> 00:09:43,960 Speaker 2: That's not the way that works. 218 00:09:44,120 --> 00:09:46,959 Speaker 1: Doesn't really matter how many zeros you add on someone's salary, Guys, 219 00:09:47,040 --> 00:09:49,280 Speaker 1: it does not afford you the ability to all of 220 00:09:49,280 --> 00:09:52,120 Speaker 1: a sudden draw more than their maximum capability out of 221 00:09:52,160 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 1: a person. It's not the way that works. So Mel 222 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:56,080 Speaker 1: Tucker is who he is. Doesn't matter whether you pay 223 00:09:56,120 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 1: him one million or twenty million. What I hope is 224 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:00,600 Speaker 1: that they don't get short sighted at mes Michigan State 225 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:03,400 Speaker 1: because they're paying him more money, therefore thinking all of 226 00:10:03,400 --> 00:10:05,760 Speaker 1: a sudden, he's going to be capable of delivering more 227 00:10:05,800 --> 00:10:08,040 Speaker 1: than previously he would have been capable of delivering. That's 228 00:10:08,080 --> 00:10:10,000 Speaker 1: where you get yourself in trouble. That's where I think 229 00:10:10,000 --> 00:10:12,720 Speaker 1: the entire sport collectively has got itself in a little 230 00:10:12,720 --> 00:10:15,719 Speaker 1: bit of trouble. It's the microwave mentality. We'll throw more 231 00:10:15,760 --> 00:10:18,920 Speaker 1: money at a guy, therefore that buys us the opportunity 232 00:10:18,920 --> 00:10:21,560 Speaker 1: to speed up the process of success. No, it doesn't, 233 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:22,720 Speaker 1: it doesn't. 234 00:10:22,400 --> 00:10:23,040 Speaker 2: Do that at all. 235 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:27,160 Speaker 1: Everything that is a constant remains a constant. The variable. 236 00:10:27,360 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 1: In this case, a salary can change if you want 237 00:10:30,440 --> 00:10:33,280 Speaker 1: it to change, but it doesn't change what the constants are, 238 00:10:33,320 --> 00:10:36,000 Speaker 1: the rules, the status quote, none of that changes. So 239 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:37,760 Speaker 1: with that out of the way, I'm going to talk 240 00:10:37,760 --> 00:10:39,079 Speaker 1: more about that tonight. I'm going to go in a 241 00:10:39,120 --> 00:10:41,680 Speaker 1: little bit greater detail. But with that out of the way, 242 00:10:41,920 --> 00:10:43,040 Speaker 1: we move on to the mail pack. 243 00:10:43,160 --> 00:10:44,080 Speaker 2: Now this is first. 244 00:10:44,200 --> 00:10:46,760 Speaker 1: I don't think I've ever seen this happen before. Kathy, 245 00:10:47,360 --> 00:10:50,839 Speaker 1: who is going to be our resident watchdog, apparently asked me, 246 00:10:51,080 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 1: did you see the negative comment about you being a 247 00:10:53,800 --> 00:10:57,720 Speaker 1: Georgia hater in the podcast review section? I had to 248 00:10:57,720 --> 00:10:59,840 Speaker 1: be honest, No, Kathy, I had not seen it. 249 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:02,640 Speaker 2: So I go over to the podcast few section. Two 250 00:11:02,679 --> 00:11:03,720 Speaker 2: things caught my eye. 251 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,160 Speaker 1: One, you guys flooded us with five star reviews and 252 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: great written reviews Tuesday when we asked for him, So 253 00:11:10,600 --> 00:11:11,200 Speaker 1: thank you for that. 254 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:12,600 Speaker 2: We're almost at two thousand. 255 00:11:12,600 --> 00:11:15,560 Speaker 1: Now, we're at nineteen fifty nine as I speak this morning, 256 00:11:15,880 --> 00:11:17,880 Speaker 1: So I need tell what is that stats info? 257 00:11:18,000 --> 00:11:20,560 Speaker 2: Quickly crunch it forty one. I need forty one of you. 258 00:11:21,040 --> 00:11:24,200 Speaker 1: I'm alone, FYI, I need forty one of you at 259 00:11:24,280 --> 00:11:26,360 Speaker 1: least to hit us with a five star review. But 260 00:11:26,400 --> 00:11:28,439 Speaker 1: that's not what caught my eye. Only the second thing 261 00:11:28,480 --> 00:11:31,120 Speaker 1: that caught my eye. As I scrolled down, I found 262 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:32,920 Speaker 1: the post Kathy's talking about. I'm gonna read it in 263 00:11:32,960 --> 00:11:35,400 Speaker 1: a second, but I want any of you out there 264 00:11:35,440 --> 00:11:38,000 Speaker 1: to make sense of this for me. So somebody, I 265 00:11:38,040 --> 00:11:39,400 Speaker 1: don't know if this is a guy or a girl, 266 00:11:39,400 --> 00:11:42,720 Speaker 1: they come in here, listen to this whack job. The 267 00:11:42,800 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: analysis and entertainment factors have taken a major, major hit 268 00:11:46,800 --> 00:11:51,000 Speaker 1: since Trevor and Ben moved on to other ventures. Just 269 00:11:51,240 --> 00:11:55,320 Speaker 1: shallow anecdotal stuff now from the new hosts without much else. 270 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,640 Speaker 1: Topical and timely pumping out the right content. 271 00:11:58,480 --> 00:11:59,920 Speaker 2: But just not what the show used to be. 272 00:12:00,240 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 1: Sadly, speaking of mel Tucker's exorbit salary, I'll give any 273 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:07,280 Speaker 1: of you ten million dollars a year for life if 274 00:12:07,320 --> 00:12:09,880 Speaker 1: you can tell me who Trevor is or who Ben is. 275 00:12:10,480 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 2: Never heard of him. 276 00:12:11,360 --> 00:12:14,319 Speaker 1: I read that and I said, hoopst That's what I said, 277 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:15,839 Speaker 1: Trevor Ben sounds like an. 278 00:12:15,800 --> 00:12:18,199 Speaker 2: Ice cream shop. I have no clue. It could be 279 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:20,960 Speaker 2: a law firm, It could be a shoe manufacturer. For 280 00:12:21,040 --> 00:12:21,400 Speaker 2: all I know. 281 00:12:21,440 --> 00:12:23,839 Speaker 1: These guys are wanted for missing child support payments in 282 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 1: Santa Fe. I don't know who they are. I just 283 00:12:25,800 --> 00:12:27,679 Speaker 1: know we've never had a Trevor, nor have we had 284 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:29,960 Speaker 1: a beIN on the show. As best I can tell, 285 00:12:30,400 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: this show has been me and you. Now I may 286 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,079 Speaker 1: have a Trevor out there. I may have a beIN 287 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,520 Speaker 1: out there. Well, I mean, I know you didn't wake 288 00:12:37,600 --> 00:12:40,280 Speaker 1: up expecting to hear this, but someone wants you back. 289 00:12:40,800 --> 00:12:42,320 Speaker 1: I just want to meet you for the first time. 290 00:12:42,440 --> 00:12:44,840 Speaker 1: Someone wants you back. So anyway, we scroll past that. 291 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:47,720 Speaker 1: Unfortunately we can't delete that. That just lives as a 292 00:12:47,720 --> 00:12:50,199 Speaker 1: two star review. So thank you whoever that was. I'm 293 00:12:50,240 --> 00:12:52,959 Speaker 1: one hundred and ten percent sure that probably happened between 294 00:12:52,960 --> 00:12:53,599 Speaker 1: the hours. 295 00:12:53,360 --> 00:12:55,760 Speaker 2: Of two and four AM. I move on. 296 00:12:56,080 --> 00:12:58,440 Speaker 1: Here's what Kathy was talking about. Here's another two star 297 00:12:58,520 --> 00:13:01,040 Speaker 1: review amid a sea of five star reviews. Here's our 298 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 1: other two star review. I have been listening to the 299 00:13:03,800 --> 00:13:06,800 Speaker 1: show for over a year. Recently I noticed some pro 300 00:13:06,920 --> 00:13:11,520 Speaker 1: BAMMA coverage and some anti Georgia sentiment, more specifically Kirby's 301 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 1: smart anger. This is one of the rest of college 302 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:17,760 Speaker 1: football fans and media should keep playoff. In perspective, there 303 00:13:17,840 --> 00:13:20,079 Speaker 1: is more to college football, but you say, now, if 304 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:23,160 Speaker 1: Georgia does not win a national championship, this season is 305 00:13:23,200 --> 00:13:25,520 Speaker 1: lost and Kirby is on the hot seat. You have 306 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:29,080 Speaker 1: issues with Georgia that make you biased. Let's work in reverse. 307 00:13:29,160 --> 00:13:31,280 Speaker 1: I can't tell you how many different ways this post 308 00:13:31,320 --> 00:13:33,440 Speaker 1: is wrong, So let's just work in reverse, shall we. 309 00:13:34,000 --> 00:13:37,120 Speaker 1: I will pay you, sir, ten million dollars per year 310 00:13:37,280 --> 00:13:39,920 Speaker 1: if you find a single clip you only need one. 311 00:13:40,360 --> 00:13:42,120 Speaker 1: You claim I do it all the time. You're only 312 00:13:42,120 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: going to need one example of me saying Kirby smart 313 00:13:45,200 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: will be on a hot seat of any kind. 314 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:48,520 Speaker 2: If you can find. 315 00:13:48,280 --> 00:13:50,760 Speaker 1: Those words together in a sentence coming out of my mouth, 316 00:13:51,200 --> 00:13:53,480 Speaker 1: I'll give you my next paychecks. Not quite ten million 317 00:13:53,520 --> 00:13:55,400 Speaker 1: per year, but I'll give you my next paycheck. 318 00:13:55,679 --> 00:13:58,400 Speaker 2: That's point one. So you lied there. That's false. Let's 319 00:13:58,400 --> 00:13:59,040 Speaker 2: continue here. 320 00:13:59,080 --> 00:14:03,280 Speaker 1: Okay, I have issues with Georgia, sir. I am from Georgia. 321 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,880 Speaker 1: This show was based in Georgia when it originated. If 322 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:09,480 Speaker 1: there's one single program out there I would hand pick 323 00:14:09,600 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: to win a national championship for the sake of our show, 324 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,000 Speaker 1: it would be Georgia. Because it has long been my 325 00:14:15,080 --> 00:14:18,679 Speaker 1: belief and recently backed up by tangible data. That Georgia 326 00:14:18,800 --> 00:14:21,840 Speaker 1: is the single biggest listenership that we have. The Georgia 327 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:24,520 Speaker 1: fan base is bigger than any other single fan base 328 00:14:24,560 --> 00:14:26,880 Speaker 1: that we have. So you're over two, don't worry, the 329 00:14:26,880 --> 00:14:29,040 Speaker 1: strikes will keep coming. Here was the one that really 330 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:31,320 Speaker 1: tickled me. This is why the rest of college football 331 00:14:31,320 --> 00:14:35,240 Speaker 1: fans and media should keep playoff in perspective. There's more 332 00:14:35,240 --> 00:14:38,920 Speaker 1: to college football than playoff. Uh, the phone has been dropped, 333 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:42,720 Speaker 1: So any of you who actually have listened over a 334 00:14:42,800 --> 00:14:46,720 Speaker 1: year like this guy claims he has understand that it 335 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:50,080 Speaker 1: got so old me saying what he just actually said 336 00:14:50,360 --> 00:14:52,840 Speaker 1: that you probably got tired of me telling you there's 337 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,720 Speaker 1: more to college football than just the playoff. I'm the 338 00:14:55,720 --> 00:14:58,880 Speaker 1: guy who's beaten that drum harder than anyone. I have 339 00:14:59,040 --> 00:15:01,920 Speaker 1: beaten that thing like a tom tom. While everyone else 340 00:15:02,040 --> 00:15:06,240 Speaker 1: was releasing playoff predictions at our company over the summer, I. 341 00:15:06,280 --> 00:15:07,800 Speaker 2: Was the one who was laid to the party. 342 00:15:07,960 --> 00:15:10,040 Speaker 1: I was the one they had to come to and say, hey, 343 00:15:10,120 --> 00:15:13,680 Speaker 1: we need your submission. Excuse me, are you there, Hey Josh, 344 00:15:13,800 --> 00:15:17,240 Speaker 1: we really need your submission for the playoff prediction. I 345 00:15:17,480 --> 00:15:19,400 Speaker 1: was the one that waited to the end. That's how 346 00:15:19,440 --> 00:15:21,760 Speaker 1: little I care about the playoff up until this time 347 00:15:21,800 --> 00:15:24,280 Speaker 1: of year. This is when I start talking about playoff. 348 00:15:24,680 --> 00:15:27,760 Speaker 1: I'm all about the regular season, mattering. I am mister, 349 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:30,800 Speaker 1: there's more to college football than the playoff, and anyone 350 00:15:31,200 --> 00:15:33,600 Speaker 1: who actually had listened to the show for any length 351 00:15:33,600 --> 00:15:34,480 Speaker 1: of time would know. 352 00:15:34,440 --> 00:15:37,120 Speaker 2: That, uh do do do do. Okay, here's the other part. 353 00:15:37,480 --> 00:15:39,200 Speaker 1: This is fun for me. This is kind of cathartic 354 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:40,640 Speaker 1: for me. I'm glad that you all are here while 355 00:15:40,680 --> 00:15:42,840 Speaker 1: I'm over here on the couch. He said, I've been 356 00:15:42,840 --> 00:15:44,600 Speaker 1: listening to the show for over a year. I highly 357 00:15:44,680 --> 00:15:47,600 Speaker 1: doubt that recently noticed some pro Bama coverage. You will 358 00:15:47,600 --> 00:15:50,000 Speaker 1: always get pro Bama coverage on this podcast. I'm gonna 359 00:15:50,000 --> 00:15:52,080 Speaker 1: tell you why You're right, smack dab in the middle 360 00:15:52,080 --> 00:15:54,160 Speaker 1: of the greatest dynasty in the history of the sport, 361 00:15:54,480 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: led by the greatest coach in the history of the sport. 362 00:15:56,920 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 1: How ignorant would I be if I existed in nineteen 363 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:03,440 Speaker 1: seventy and I didn't continually praise Paul Bear Bryant and 364 00:16:03,480 --> 00:16:06,320 Speaker 1: the University of Alabama. How ignorant would I be if 365 00:16:06,320 --> 00:16:09,040 Speaker 1: this podcast existed in the late eighties and I was 366 00:16:09,040 --> 00:16:12,040 Speaker 1: not praising the Miami Hurricanes. How ignorant would it be 367 00:16:12,200 --> 00:16:14,280 Speaker 1: if I were around in the mid nineties, and I said, 368 00:16:14,280 --> 00:16:16,520 Speaker 1: Steve Spurrier in Florida, not that big a deal to me. 369 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:19,480 Speaker 1: There's always going to be Probama coverage here because they 370 00:16:19,520 --> 00:16:22,000 Speaker 1: are what everyone else wants their program to be. But 371 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,440 Speaker 1: the crux of all this really was at the end 372 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:27,960 Speaker 1: where I allegedly claimed that if Georgia does not win 373 00:16:27,960 --> 00:16:30,920 Speaker 1: a national championship, the season is lost and Kirby's on 374 00:16:30,960 --> 00:16:33,200 Speaker 1: the hot seat. The second part I already beat down 375 00:16:33,200 --> 00:16:36,000 Speaker 1: like a pinata. The first part is accurate. I got 376 00:16:36,080 --> 00:16:38,480 Speaker 1: a dozen Georgia folks I could text right now who 377 00:16:38,560 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 1: would back it up. 378 00:16:39,560 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 2: That didn't come out of my mind. 379 00:16:41,320 --> 00:16:44,440 Speaker 1: It's just me echoing the sentiment I get constantly from 380 00:16:44,520 --> 00:16:48,040 Speaker 1: folks back home and folks around that program. You notice, 381 00:16:48,080 --> 00:16:50,760 Speaker 1: by the way, that leaked portion of audio from Kirby 382 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:53,440 Speaker 1: Smart the other day out of that locker room. Everyone 383 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 1: got all excited because for some reason, adults get excited 384 00:16:55,920 --> 00:16:56,960 Speaker 1: when other adults cuss. 385 00:16:56,960 --> 00:16:57,960 Speaker 2: I've never really gotten it. 386 00:16:58,160 --> 00:17:00,880 Speaker 1: That's standard locker room stuff, guys, But you don't get 387 00:17:00,880 --> 00:17:02,240 Speaker 1: to hear it all the time. So I know why 388 00:17:02,280 --> 00:17:04,840 Speaker 1: it got you a little fired up. That's okay, It's 389 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:06,760 Speaker 1: not what I took from it. What I took from 390 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,199 Speaker 1: it is Kirby Smart yelling this is our year. You 391 00:17:09,280 --> 00:17:11,240 Speaker 1: know why I yelled that, because he knows it is 392 00:17:11,280 --> 00:17:13,880 Speaker 1: their year. And you know why I'm saying what I'm 393 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:16,040 Speaker 1: saying about this being the year they better win a 394 00:17:16,119 --> 00:17:19,879 Speaker 1: national championship because everyone in Georgia knows it. Everyone in 395 00:17:19,920 --> 00:17:22,720 Speaker 1: Georgia knows they got the best team they've had. Everyone 396 00:17:22,760 --> 00:17:25,080 Speaker 1: in Georgia can see across the rest of the landscape. 397 00:17:25,119 --> 00:17:27,480 Speaker 1: There is no other elite team out there. There is 398 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:30,720 Speaker 1: no other quarterback that is single handedly capable of beating them. 399 00:17:30,880 --> 00:17:33,720 Speaker 1: They've already got the East locked up. They've got plenty 400 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:36,439 Speaker 1: of advanced time to prepare for Bama. They don't have 401 00:17:36,480 --> 00:17:38,960 Speaker 1: to beat him twice. If they beat him in Atlanta once, 402 00:17:39,160 --> 00:17:41,920 Speaker 1: especially if it's soundly, Bama will be out of there. 403 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:45,040 Speaker 1: And they know this too. They know that BAMA team's 404 00:17:45,080 --> 00:17:47,800 Speaker 1: not a Bama team. Nick Saban's not even happy with 405 00:17:47,880 --> 00:17:51,399 Speaker 1: this Alabama team. There has never been a set of 406 00:17:51,480 --> 00:17:55,480 Speaker 1: circumstances lined up for Georgia better than they are this year. 407 00:17:55,840 --> 00:17:57,359 Speaker 1: So you think I'm telling you there's a lot of 408 00:17:57,359 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: pressure on Georgia. It's cause I am. Let me be 409 00:17:59,560 --> 00:18:03,439 Speaker 1: perfectly clear, there is immense pressure on the University of Georgia. 410 00:18:03,480 --> 00:18:06,120 Speaker 1: There is more pressure on Georgia this year to win 411 00:18:06,119 --> 00:18:09,760 Speaker 1: a championship than there is any other program. And I'm 412 00:18:09,840 --> 00:18:13,200 Speaker 1: unequivocally telling you if they don't win a national championship 413 00:18:13,280 --> 00:18:16,080 Speaker 1: this year, this year will have been a failure. That's 414 00:18:16,119 --> 00:18:18,600 Speaker 1: the only program I'm saying that about in the country. 415 00:18:19,040 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: So am I putting more pressure on Georgia. 416 00:18:20,640 --> 00:18:21,960 Speaker 2: Than anyone else? Yeah? I am. 417 00:18:22,440 --> 00:18:24,600 Speaker 1: I'm not putting any more pressure on them than they're 418 00:18:24,600 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: putting on themselves. Talk to some folks around the program. 419 00:18:27,800 --> 00:18:29,720 Speaker 1: You'll get the sense I'm dead on the money. I 420 00:18:29,800 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: might as well be repeating them verbatim. They know what 421 00:18:32,320 --> 00:18:35,520 Speaker 1: the deal is around there. Reality is not negativity. Negativity 422 00:18:35,520 --> 00:18:37,040 Speaker 1: would be me saying Georgia ain't got a shot to 423 00:18:37,040 --> 00:18:38,880 Speaker 1: win a title. I'm not saying that at all. They're 424 00:18:38,920 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 1: the favorite to win it. I'm being realistic with you. 425 00:18:41,840 --> 00:18:44,040 Speaker 1: If they don't win it, you watch and see if 426 00:18:44,040 --> 00:18:46,960 Speaker 1: they somehow are able to fumble this where they do 427 00:18:47,080 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: not win this national championship. You come back to your 428 00:18:50,359 --> 00:18:53,960 Speaker 1: local Georgia message board or talk radio, not the next day, 429 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,439 Speaker 1: not the next week. Come back a month later and 430 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:01,520 Speaker 1: gauge the tone around the Georgia program. You will sense failure. 431 00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:04,800 Speaker 1: You will sense people who know it has been a failure. 432 00:19:05,080 --> 00:19:06,960 Speaker 1: I don't care if they make it to the title 433 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:09,919 Speaker 1: game in route to winning the SEC and winning a 434 00:19:09,960 --> 00:19:11,359 Speaker 1: semi final in the process. 435 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:13,040 Speaker 2: This season will be a. 436 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:15,800 Speaker 1: Failure if Georgia does not win a national championship. If 437 00:19:15,800 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 1: that rubs you the wrong way. It rubs you the 438 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,760 Speaker 1: wrong way. But that's the reality around that program. If 439 00:19:19,800 --> 00:19:22,280 Speaker 1: you don't like those expectations, you've hitched your wagon to 440 00:19:22,280 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: the wrong program. Because that's the way it's going to 441 00:19:24,119 --> 00:19:25,800 Speaker 1: be around there, and it's especially going to be that 442 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:27,520 Speaker 1: way the rest of this season. 443 00:19:27,720 --> 00:19:27,800 Speaker 2: Now. 444 00:19:27,840 --> 00:19:30,320 Speaker 1: If they win the title this season, I'll never say 445 00:19:30,359 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: that again, nor will they ever say it again. I 446 00:19:32,480 --> 00:19:34,920 Speaker 1: mean they'll say it, but it won't be true. There 447 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:37,240 Speaker 1: will never be another time after you've gotten one out 448 00:19:37,240 --> 00:19:40,879 Speaker 1: of the way that it's win a national championship or 449 00:19:40,920 --> 00:19:43,159 Speaker 1: all is lost. It's a failure. It'll never be that 450 00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:46,240 Speaker 1: way again. It could never be that way for Alabama again. 451 00:19:46,640 --> 00:19:49,560 Speaker 1: It will never be that way for any program that's 452 00:19:49,680 --> 00:19:52,280 Speaker 1: won a title, but when you haven't won one in 453 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,600 Speaker 1: four decades and the stars aligned for you to the 454 00:19:55,640 --> 00:19:57,720 Speaker 1: degree they have this year, and you have so many 455 00:19:57,880 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 1: influential players come back for one more shot at winning 456 00:20:01,560 --> 00:20:04,439 Speaker 1: a title and ending that four plus decade drought, and 457 00:20:04,520 --> 00:20:06,639 Speaker 1: there are no other elite teams out there, And the 458 00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:09,960 Speaker 1: goliath in your conference over there in Tuscaloosa is coming 459 00:20:10,000 --> 00:20:13,840 Speaker 1: off their most legendary team ever, and they've got huge 460 00:20:13,920 --> 00:20:16,520 Speaker 1: holes that they haven't fully replaced yet and filled yet, 461 00:20:16,520 --> 00:20:19,120 Speaker 1: and voids they haven't filled. And Nick Saban sitting here 462 00:20:19,119 --> 00:20:22,639 Speaker 1: in mid November at press conferences complaining about the team's 463 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,280 Speaker 1: demeanor and attitude. They have not played with a level 464 00:20:25,280 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: of physicality all year you expect from Alabama. They have 465 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:30,640 Speaker 1: not played with a level of consistency that you would 466 00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,000 Speaker 1: expect all year from Alabama. They are ripe to be beaten. 467 00:20:34,440 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: It's there. It's all there, is my point. So, yeah, 468 00:20:36,840 --> 00:20:39,520 Speaker 1: there is huge pressure on Georgia. I would not lie 469 00:20:39,560 --> 00:20:41,680 Speaker 1: to you and tell you otherwise. And while I'm at it, 470 00:20:41,720 --> 00:20:43,880 Speaker 1: here's some more truth. We got to take an ad 471 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:48,760 Speaker 1: break be right back. So now that we're back, and 472 00:20:48,800 --> 00:20:51,119 Speaker 1: now that we've undone the top button of the shirt. 473 00:20:51,200 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 1: Because of the previous question, I ended up scrolling through 474 00:20:54,080 --> 00:20:56,480 Speaker 1: the rest of the podcast review section. 475 00:20:56,600 --> 00:20:59,280 Speaker 2: And this has been very, very enlightening for me. There 476 00:20:59,280 --> 00:21:00,960 Speaker 2: were some of you who said, love the show. 477 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,840 Speaker 1: I wish you'd bump the audio up a little bit 478 00:21:02,840 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: because I have trouble hearing it when I'm on the 479 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:07,720 Speaker 1: lawn mower well in the winter time. I think immediately 480 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 1: we'll be able to take care of that problem. However, 481 00:21:10,040 --> 00:21:12,240 Speaker 1: I have heard you loud and clear. I'm not totally 482 00:21:12,240 --> 00:21:15,040 Speaker 1: happy with our audio quality either. It's not producer Jordan's fault. 483 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:16,720 Speaker 1: I got to get a new microphone. I got to 484 00:21:16,720 --> 00:21:19,119 Speaker 1: get a better microphone. I'm working with something here to 485 00:21:19,160 --> 00:21:21,240 Speaker 1: give you a little behind the scenes that we ordered 486 00:21:21,800 --> 00:21:23,959 Speaker 1: I don't know, with like a day or two's advance 487 00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:26,800 Speaker 1: notice before we started recording this when I first got here, 488 00:21:27,200 --> 00:21:31,000 Speaker 1: and in the spirit of consistency, I've just never upgraded it. 489 00:21:31,400 --> 00:21:33,720 Speaker 1: So we're working with like a two hundred dollars microphone 490 00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:36,560 Speaker 1: here and really, and I got a leaning clothes so 491 00:21:36,640 --> 00:21:37,520 Speaker 1: management doesn't here. 492 00:21:37,800 --> 00:21:40,120 Speaker 2: We can charge them for whatever we want now. 493 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,400 Speaker 1: And so we're going to charge them for a much 494 00:21:42,440 --> 00:21:44,919 Speaker 1: better microphone, one of those really fancy deals that makes 495 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:46,119 Speaker 1: you sound like you work for NASA. 496 00:21:46,520 --> 00:21:48,720 Speaker 2: Let's get one of those in here. Merry Christmas to 497 00:21:48,840 --> 00:21:49,680 Speaker 2: us for a change. 498 00:21:49,920 --> 00:21:52,040 Speaker 1: Also, there's a healthy mixture of people saying we should 499 00:21:52,040 --> 00:21:54,440 Speaker 1: get new intro music and other people saying they love 500 00:21:54,480 --> 00:21:57,640 Speaker 1: the intro music. This war is still raging. I asked 501 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,160 Speaker 1: you this like three weeks ago, and we have I've 502 00:22:00,200 --> 00:22:01,640 Speaker 1: not come to a consensus. 503 00:22:01,720 --> 00:22:02,840 Speaker 2: It's the craziest thing. 504 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:05,040 Speaker 1: I could put a poll out today on a coin 505 00:22:05,040 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: flip and it would not be split more evenly fifty 506 00:22:07,800 --> 00:22:10,840 Speaker 1: to fifty heads and tails than this has been. I asked, 507 00:22:10,840 --> 00:22:13,280 Speaker 1: do you want new intro music? Full disclosure, I'm not 508 00:22:13,400 --> 00:22:15,879 Speaker 1: crazy about our intro music on this show. I'm not 509 00:22:15,920 --> 00:22:18,240 Speaker 1: particularly crazy about the intro music we have on the 510 00:22:18,240 --> 00:22:20,720 Speaker 1: YouTube show, which we will air tonight on the twenty 511 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,280 Speaker 1: four seven Sports YouTube channel eight eastern seventh Central Late 512 00:22:23,359 --> 00:22:25,679 Speaker 1: Kick Live. I'm not crazy about that either, But it's 513 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:27,560 Speaker 1: not my show, and so if you like it, we're 514 00:22:27,560 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: going to keep it. 515 00:22:28,400 --> 00:22:29,919 Speaker 2: But half of you say you love it, half of 516 00:22:29,960 --> 00:22:30,679 Speaker 2: you say you hate it. 517 00:22:30,800 --> 00:22:33,280 Speaker 1: No one said they're indifferent, not as as usual. Not 518 00:22:33,320 --> 00:22:35,680 Speaker 1: a single person said eh, really don't carr either way. 519 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:36,719 Speaker 1: Just give me good content. 520 00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:38,920 Speaker 2: Let's move on. Michael's got a question here. 521 00:22:38,960 --> 00:22:41,760 Speaker 1: He said, I know which game you're going to Saturday, which, 522 00:22:41,840 --> 00:22:45,200 Speaker 1: for those unfamiliar, the Renaissance Tour is taking us to Columbus, 523 00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:48,639 Speaker 1: Ohio for Michigan State versus Ohio State. And I'll be 524 00:22:48,680 --> 00:22:51,160 Speaker 1: all around the state of Ohio before that Tall Midge. 525 00:22:51,160 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 2: I want to say. 526 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:54,000 Speaker 1: The town's name is Tallmidge, Ohio. It's a little bit 527 00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:55,879 Speaker 1: south of Cleveland. I'm going to head up there for 528 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:59,400 Speaker 1: a little get together on Friday. I am foregoing an 529 00:22:59,400 --> 00:23:01,800 Speaker 1: interview with Ryan Day and Melt Tucker to do that. 530 00:23:02,160 --> 00:23:05,040 Speaker 1: Probably not the smartest career move, but hey, friends and family, 531 00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:07,320 Speaker 1: you know, especially around this time of year, you got 532 00:23:07,359 --> 00:23:10,160 Speaker 1: to prioritize. So I'm going up to Tall Midge, first 533 00:23:10,200 --> 00:23:12,880 Speaker 1: time ever in Tallmadge, big Meal planned big ping pong 534 00:23:12,920 --> 00:23:16,240 Speaker 1: tournament plan a rivalry that dates back to my local 535 00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:19,359 Speaker 1: news days. But I will be obviously at the Michigan 536 00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:22,800 Speaker 1: State Ohio State game Saturday. But Michael asked which game? 537 00:23:23,119 --> 00:23:25,560 Speaker 1: Considering everything we know, do you think is the most 538 00:23:25,600 --> 00:23:29,359 Speaker 1: important in college football this week? Michael, I could go 539 00:23:29,400 --> 00:23:32,640 Speaker 1: the SMU Cincinnati route the line on that's under two touchdowns. 540 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,720 Speaker 1: I think it's around twelve or thirteen last time I checked, 541 00:23:34,720 --> 00:23:37,720 Speaker 1: have not looked this morning. Cincinnati a favorite, obviously, but 542 00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,480 Speaker 1: it is a losable game, most losable game they've played in. 543 00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:40,880 Speaker 2: A little while. 544 00:23:40,920 --> 00:23:43,159 Speaker 1: They got the conference title game still coming up. I 545 00:23:43,200 --> 00:23:46,080 Speaker 1: actually think the Utah Oregon game may end up being 546 00:23:46,080 --> 00:23:49,600 Speaker 1: the most important, but you could obviously make the argument 547 00:23:49,640 --> 00:23:51,639 Speaker 1: that Michigan State and Ohio State is because you have 548 00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,400 Speaker 1: two of those highly ranked teams. I think the perception 549 00:23:54,640 --> 00:23:56,480 Speaker 1: that I would agree with at the moment, because I 550 00:23:56,480 --> 00:23:58,400 Speaker 1: did pick Ohio State to win the game, is there 551 00:23:58,440 --> 00:24:02,280 Speaker 1: is a greater likelihood that a top four team loses 552 00:24:02,320 --> 00:24:04,439 Speaker 1: a game in Salt Lake City, then there is a 553 00:24:04,440 --> 00:24:07,399 Speaker 1: top four team losing a game at Ohio State. Ohio 554 00:24:07,400 --> 00:24:09,720 Speaker 1: State's favored by nineteen. They are a top four team. 555 00:24:09,800 --> 00:24:11,439 Speaker 1: I'm not sure how many of you are aware of 556 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,840 Speaker 1: this yet. Oregon's an underdog this Saturday. They may be 557 00:24:14,880 --> 00:24:16,800 Speaker 1: a top four team, but they're going into Utah. They 558 00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,119 Speaker 1: are a three point dog, and so there is a 559 00:24:19,160 --> 00:24:23,760 Speaker 1: greater likelihood that Oregon loses. If Oregon wins, then obviously 560 00:24:23,800 --> 00:24:26,359 Speaker 1: the headlines right themselves. But also if they've gone on 561 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,159 Speaker 1: the road, gone in there and wather that storm and 562 00:24:28,200 --> 00:24:30,400 Speaker 1: came out with a win, obviously it stands to reason 563 00:24:30,400 --> 00:24:32,280 Speaker 1: they're playing their best football of the year in order 564 00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: to do it, and this is the right time of 565 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,920 Speaker 1: year to play your best football. So if Oregon wins 566 00:24:35,960 --> 00:24:39,160 Speaker 1: the game, not only do you maintain top four status, 567 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:42,080 Speaker 1: but you also solidify top four status, and in the process, 568 00:24:42,359 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 1: you may have to look at Oregon a little more 569 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:46,800 Speaker 1: seriously as a candidate to not only win the Pac twelve, 570 00:24:46,840 --> 00:24:49,520 Speaker 1: get in the playoff, but maybe even make some noise 571 00:24:49,520 --> 00:24:51,760 Speaker 1: in the playoff, be an actual threat to win a 572 00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 1: semi final game depending on matchup. So that's the direction 573 00:24:54,600 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: I go there. Of course, the bigger potential outcome out 574 00:24:57,040 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 1: of all of this would be Michigan State over Ohio State. 575 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:02,000 Speaker 1: I mean, if that were to happen, think about how 576 00:25:02,080 --> 00:25:04,720 Speaker 1: much that rocks the college football landscape. So it rocks 577 00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,280 Speaker 1: the Big ten landscape, because all of a sudden, then 578 00:25:07,680 --> 00:25:10,919 Speaker 1: Michigan State is in position where if they were to 579 00:25:10,960 --> 00:25:13,919 Speaker 1: pull off that upset, not only do they vault themselves 580 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:16,800 Speaker 1: right back up into Top four conversation, but they're in 581 00:25:16,840 --> 00:25:18,480 Speaker 1: Big ten championship conversation. 582 00:25:19,119 --> 00:25:20,440 Speaker 2: It puts Ohio State and. 583 00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:24,760 Speaker 1: Michigan on an entirely different plane simultaneously. It makes you 584 00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:26,680 Speaker 1: look at the last week for Michigan State and say, 585 00:25:26,680 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 1: who are they playing? Oh They're playing Penn State. Well, 586 00:25:29,359 --> 00:25:31,840 Speaker 1: that ends up being Penn State super Bowl. Penn State 587 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,240 Speaker 1: cannot achieve what they wanted to achieve, but they could 588 00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:36,960 Speaker 1: derail someone else's season in the process. They could end 589 00:25:37,000 --> 00:25:39,960 Speaker 1: the season on a good note for themselves. Michigan meanwhile, 590 00:25:39,960 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: would need no motivation outside of the obvious to play 591 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:46,360 Speaker 1: against Ohio State. But what happens, guys, if we get 592 00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: into that kind of predicament, If Michigan State wins this Saturday, 593 00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 1: we get into a predicament where the Big Ten bumper 594 00:25:51,400 --> 00:25:55,800 Speaker 1: car scenario is a possibility. Because if all those teams 595 00:25:55,840 --> 00:25:58,720 Speaker 1: already have losses or multiple losses, that would be Ohio 596 00:25:58,800 --> 00:26:01,680 Speaker 1: State's second loss, they may be out of the playoff 597 00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,960 Speaker 1: and still have a shot at the Big Ten title game. Meanwhile, 598 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,280 Speaker 1: Michigan State's got a loss, Michigan's got a loss, Either 599 00:26:07,320 --> 00:26:09,720 Speaker 1: of them could go to the Big Ten Title Game 600 00:26:10,000 --> 00:26:12,720 Speaker 1: and stand a chance of losing to Wisconsin. 601 00:26:12,280 --> 00:26:14,080 Speaker 2: Which would mean you're a Big Ten champion. 602 00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:18,160 Speaker 1: Wisconsin has three losses minimum, your runner up has minimum 603 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,040 Speaker 1: two losses. Ohio State has two losses, Michigan has two losses. 604 00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:25,399 Speaker 1: Michigan State has two losses. Wisconsin's got three losses. Where's 605 00:26:25,440 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 1: the Big Ten playoff team coming from. That's how the 606 00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:30,440 Speaker 1: Bumper Carsceonnario would work out. So, yeah, there's a lot 607 00:26:30,440 --> 00:26:32,640 Speaker 1: on the line. Obviously in Columbus. I think there's more 608 00:26:32,680 --> 00:26:35,680 Speaker 1: on the line in Columbus. I think the more important game, though, 609 00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:39,960 Speaker 1: for the reasons I articulated, would be Utah versus Oregon 610 00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:42,280 Speaker 1: in reverse order, because you say the visiting team first, 611 00:26:42,280 --> 00:26:43,240 Speaker 1: Oregan versus Utah. 612 00:26:43,520 --> 00:26:44,359 Speaker 2: We got to get out of here. 613 00:26:44,400 --> 00:26:46,560 Speaker 1: I've got a very very important meeting to go to 614 00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:48,440 Speaker 1: and then we've got a very important show to put 615 00:26:48,440 --> 00:26:50,960 Speaker 1: together for tonight. Thank you for all the support, guys. 616 00:26:51,160 --> 00:26:53,560 Speaker 1: All the support means the world above and beyond. 617 00:26:53,840 --> 00:26:54,000 Speaker 2: Now. 618 00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: One day I'll be able to tell you everything that 619 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,720 Speaker 1: goes on around here because of you. Now is not 620 00:26:58,760 --> 00:27:01,160 Speaker 1: the time, but one day it will be the time. 621 00:27:01,520 --> 00:27:04,480 Speaker 1: Until then, For producer Jordan, I'm Josh pet Let's get 622 00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,239 Speaker 1: out of here and let's get on with our day. 623 00:27:06,280 --> 00:27:07,040 Speaker 2: Hope, you have a great one. 624 00:27:07,080 --> 00:27:08,600 Speaker 1: I'll see you later tonight on the twenty four to 625 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:12,959 Speaker 1: seven Sports YouTube channel eight Eastern, seventh Central. Until then, thanks, 626 00:27:13,080 --> 00:27:14,240 Speaker 1: take care and God bless