1 00:00:00,040 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 2 00:00:02,640 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 3 00:00:05,440 --> 00:00:08,039 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. 4 00:00:08,560 --> 00:00:11,799 Speaker 2: A Happy Day after Christmas to you, Eric Torus, how's 5 00:00:11,800 --> 00:00:12,119 Speaker 2: it going? 6 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:13,720 Speaker 3: Merk Christmas? 7 00:00:13,800 --> 00:00:14,040 Speaker 4: To you? 8 00:00:15,120 --> 00:00:17,800 Speaker 3: Manzi Blanios and I were on in this spot yesterday, 9 00:00:17,800 --> 00:00:19,079 Speaker 3: but I only bring it up to say that I 10 00:00:19,120 --> 00:00:21,479 Speaker 3: hope you had a great holiday. You were not in 11 00:00:21,560 --> 00:00:23,640 Speaker 3: a very much deserved day off, and I hope you 12 00:00:23,680 --> 00:00:24,439 Speaker 3: had a great Christmas. 13 00:00:24,680 --> 00:00:28,440 Speaker 2: Great Christmas. It was watching some football, watching some basketball, 14 00:00:28,520 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 2: and now the drama sets in in the world of 15 00:00:30,920 --> 00:00:34,280 Speaker 2: college football. Jason Stewart is here IOWA was Sam taking 16 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:36,519 Speaker 2: over in a bid for Chris Purfette, who likes to 17 00:00:36,520 --> 00:00:39,080 Speaker 2: hang out with us as well. Isaac Lohencron is at 18 00:00:39,159 --> 00:00:41,280 Speaker 2: the news desk. So much to get to the Road 19 00:00:41,280 --> 00:00:44,080 Speaker 2: to Milan runs through Saint Louis. See Ilia Mallin and 20 00:00:44,159 --> 00:00:46,839 Speaker 2: Alyssa Lewin Amber Glenn compete at the twenty twenty six 21 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:51,080 Speaker 2: priviagen Us Figure Skating Championships January seventh through the eleventh. 22 00:00:51,120 --> 00:00:53,720 Speaker 2: Be there as the twenty twenty six US Olympic Figure 23 00:00:53,760 --> 00:00:57,840 Speaker 2: Skating team is named. Live tickets at Usfigure Skating dot Org. 24 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:01,120 Speaker 2: It seems that Kyle Whittingham is to be named as 25 00:01:01,160 --> 00:01:04,520 Speaker 2: the new head football coach at the University of Michigan, 26 00:01:05,040 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: sides coming closer to an agreement to make Whittingham the 27 00:01:09,560 --> 00:01:14,759 Speaker 2: successor for Sharon Moore in Ann Arbor. Interesting news, an 28 00:01:14,760 --> 00:01:19,640 Speaker 2: interesting name, and a very very very very interesting situation 29 00:01:20,080 --> 00:01:21,000 Speaker 2: with the Wolverines. 30 00:01:21,280 --> 00:01:24,360 Speaker 3: So I'll be honest in a couple things. One putting 31 00:01:24,400 --> 00:01:27,320 Speaker 3: aside the Michigan part for half a second. You know, 32 00:01:27,440 --> 00:01:30,000 Speaker 3: it was I think exactly two weeks ago. I seem 33 00:01:30,040 --> 00:01:32,200 Speaker 3: to remember it being a Friday that we find out 34 00:01:32,240 --> 00:01:34,560 Speaker 3: that Kyle Whittingham will no longer be the head coach 35 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:38,440 Speaker 3: at Utah. And I mean, in my head, I know 36 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:43,399 Speaker 3: that a coach in waiting had been named previously, but 37 00:01:43,480 --> 00:01:45,520 Speaker 3: I just said, you know, this guy's in his mid sixties. 38 00:01:45,560 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: The world of college football is changing, all those cliches, 39 00:01:48,720 --> 00:01:50,400 Speaker 3: and I said, man, you know, it's a bummer to 40 00:01:50,400 --> 00:01:53,040 Speaker 3: see him go. This guy has I think he's been 41 00:01:53,080 --> 00:01:55,320 Speaker 3: in the face of the When you think the University 42 00:01:55,320 --> 00:01:58,440 Speaker 3: of Utah, you think of Kyle Whittingham. And I think 43 00:01:58,440 --> 00:02:01,200 Speaker 3: if you started to listen to the press conference and 44 00:02:01,280 --> 00:02:07,600 Speaker 3: the statements. You realize pretty quickly that he didn't necessarily 45 00:02:07,640 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 3: want to leave Utah, certainly under the circumstances that he did. 46 00:02:11,000 --> 00:02:11,080 Speaker 4: So. 47 00:02:11,520 --> 00:02:13,120 Speaker 3: I got a lot of takes on how it fits 48 00:02:13,160 --> 00:02:16,519 Speaker 3: in at Michigan, but I don't think it's often that 49 00:02:17,400 --> 00:02:21,239 Speaker 3: the greatest coach in the history of your school pretty 50 00:02:21,320 --> 00:02:23,400 Speaker 3: much at the peak, they won ten games this year 51 00:02:23,440 --> 00:02:25,320 Speaker 3: day they went ten and two. Their only losses were 52 00:02:25,360 --> 00:02:27,640 Speaker 3: to Texas Tech at a BYU. They were clearly still 53 00:02:27,639 --> 00:02:29,919 Speaker 3: operating at a high level. They kind of tried to 54 00:02:30,040 --> 00:02:32,600 Speaker 3: force him into retirement. He's like, no, I'm not really sure, 55 00:02:32,639 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: I'm ready to retire. And now he certainly upgraded his job, 56 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:38,680 Speaker 3: and I know we're gonna discuss this over the next 57 00:02:38,720 --> 00:02:41,880 Speaker 3: few minutes. Michigan I think upgraded at the head coach. 58 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:46,400 Speaker 2: I think it's the best case scenario for Michigan because 59 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:49,720 Speaker 2: there were dream scenarios that just never were going to happen. 60 00:02:50,040 --> 00:02:52,639 Speaker 3: Kaylenk, you can go. 61 00:02:52,600 --> 00:02:54,760 Speaker 2: Down the list. Let let's let's go down the list. 62 00:02:54,760 --> 00:02:58,200 Speaker 2: Like Kaylin de Boorr was not going to take that job. 63 00:02:58,240 --> 00:03:00,880 Speaker 2: It was just not going to happen. Once Alabama made 64 00:03:00,919 --> 00:03:03,400 Speaker 2: the bracket, I think that that was locked in still 65 00:03:03,400 --> 00:03:06,040 Speaker 2: even if they didn't, I don't know if you would 66 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:10,200 Speaker 2: go to Michigan. Kenny Dillingham was another name at Arizona State, 67 00:03:10,480 --> 00:03:13,240 Speaker 2: and Dillingham always pointed to being close to his family 68 00:03:13,760 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 2: and being next door to his sister and that would 69 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: be the reason why he would stay. Well, he got 70 00:03:17,960 --> 00:03:20,919 Speaker 2: a new contract from Arizona State. But honestly, really, if 71 00:03:20,919 --> 00:03:24,560 Speaker 2: you're Kenny Dillingham and you're probably going to be a 72 00:03:24,680 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 2: top tier head coach in college football and be a 73 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,000 Speaker 2: candidate for some of the best jobs out there, is 74 00:03:31,120 --> 00:03:35,200 Speaker 2: Michigan at this moment, not overall, but at this moment 75 00:03:35,480 --> 00:03:37,840 Speaker 2: one of the top five or ten jobs in college football. 76 00:03:38,440 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: The reason is no. The answer is no. And people 77 00:03:40,960 --> 00:03:42,760 Speaker 2: will say it's a top three or top five job 78 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:46,600 Speaker 2: when you're not investigating the entire athletic department it is. 79 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:50,000 Speaker 2: That is the reason why. So, if you're Kenny Dillingham 80 00:03:50,280 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 2: or any other young and up and coming head coach 81 00:03:52,920 --> 00:03:55,520 Speaker 2: that is looking for your big break, why would you 82 00:03:55,600 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: go to a place sign on the dotted line and 83 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:01,480 Speaker 2: have no guarantee that the people that brought you in 84 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,400 Speaker 2: are still going to be at the with the athletic department, 85 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:05,120 Speaker 2: right that. 86 00:04:05,200 --> 00:04:08,280 Speaker 3: Was one of the biggest low key things. So the 87 00:04:08,400 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 3: cherrollmore firing happens, Okay, we all everybody starts talking about 88 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:13,840 Speaker 3: who's going to be next. As soon as I heard 89 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:17,920 Speaker 3: that an outside law firm was coming in to investigate 90 00:04:18,000 --> 00:04:22,280 Speaker 3: the athletic department, my head immediately switched to if you 91 00:04:22,360 --> 00:04:25,200 Speaker 3: are a big time candidate that has a good job, 92 00:04:25,760 --> 00:04:28,160 Speaker 3: why are you going to leave a job where First 93 00:04:28,200 --> 00:04:30,080 Speaker 3: of all, I didn't even know if ward Manual is 94 00:04:30,120 --> 00:04:32,000 Speaker 3: the name of the AD. I didn't even know if 95 00:04:32,040 --> 00:04:33,680 Speaker 3: he's going to be allowed to make this higher. I 96 00:04:33,720 --> 00:04:35,479 Speaker 3: don't even know if he did make this higher. But 97 00:04:35,520 --> 00:04:39,360 Speaker 3: I said, that guy, considering everything that has happened in 98 00:04:39,440 --> 00:04:42,320 Speaker 3: the athletic department, it wouldn't stun me if he is 99 00:04:42,400 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 3: not there in six weeks, in six months and whatever. 100 00:04:46,120 --> 00:04:48,480 Speaker 3: And so that is such an important point. And also 101 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:50,960 Speaker 3: it is an important point out too, how lucky they 102 00:04:51,000 --> 00:04:54,120 Speaker 3: got that Kyle Whitningcamp got forced out at a place 103 00:04:54,120 --> 00:04:56,039 Speaker 3: that he's the greatest coach ever and still clearly wanted 104 00:04:56,040 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 3: to coach. But I think that's an important one, is 105 00:04:57,720 --> 00:05:02,360 Speaker 3: that the athletic department is being investigated, and I think 106 00:05:02,400 --> 00:05:04,479 Speaker 3: it's fair to say there's a reasonable chance that the 107 00:05:04,520 --> 00:05:07,279 Speaker 3: ad will not be there in six months, and so 108 00:05:07,360 --> 00:05:08,360 Speaker 3: it all worked out very well. 109 00:05:08,400 --> 00:05:12,560 Speaker 2: There's also another trap door where if something scandalous or 110 00:05:12,600 --> 00:05:16,119 Speaker 2: something else was going on within the athletic department after 111 00:05:16,160 --> 00:05:22,040 Speaker 2: their recent discretions and penalties that were handed down, this 112 00:05:22,080 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: would go along with that. And considering the penalties that 113 00:05:24,680 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 2: they were already given, if even more was found, there 114 00:05:27,520 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 2: could have been even more. But that's just going down 115 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,920 Speaker 2: the road. It's telling you why no young coach would 116 00:05:33,360 --> 00:05:36,880 Speaker 2: take that opportunity to grab the job. So a name 117 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:40,159 Speaker 2: like Jed Fish at Washington, I thought was legit for 118 00:05:40,240 --> 00:05:42,520 Speaker 2: a couple of reasons, didn't get the floor Ada job. 119 00:05:42,920 --> 00:05:46,039 Speaker 2: I thought that he had spent time at Michigan. He's 120 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:51,119 Speaker 2: around the He's not Kenny Dillingham young, right, he's around 121 00:05:51,200 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 2: my age, I think late forties, around fifty at that time. 122 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:56,839 Speaker 2: This would be a spot where you're like, okay, maybe 123 00:05:56,880 --> 00:05:59,760 Speaker 2: I can maybe I could flatten this this road. I 124 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,360 Speaker 2: thought that he was a possibility. He was actually the 125 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: person that I thought would ultimately get the job. But 126 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:10,000 Speaker 2: now you bring in Whittingham, maybe willingly to your point 127 00:06:10,240 --> 00:06:14,880 Speaker 2: of how the departure from Utah came about. And the 128 00:06:14,920 --> 00:06:18,400 Speaker 2: funny thing about that situation is what did we hear 129 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:21,960 Speaker 2: was the alleged reasons or the reasons that we were 130 00:06:22,000 --> 00:06:24,599 Speaker 2: guessing why Kyle Whittingham didn't want to be a part 131 00:06:24,640 --> 00:06:28,400 Speaker 2: of Utah anymore. Was stepping aside because of the new 132 00:06:28,560 --> 00:06:31,920 Speaker 2: private equity, because of the new money, and that that Aaron, 133 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:35,360 Speaker 2: that's the world Kyle Whittingham doesn't want to deal with. Yep, 134 00:06:35,520 --> 00:06:38,080 Speaker 2: just doesn't want to deal with at all. So that's 135 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:40,800 Speaker 2: got to be the reason why he's stepping away. And 136 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:42,839 Speaker 2: now a couple of weeks later he's at the Michigan 137 00:06:42,960 --> 00:06:46,839 Speaker 2: job with probably access to a lot maybe not money 138 00:06:47,040 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 2: like coming in that form, but a lot more resources. 139 00:06:50,880 --> 00:06:52,839 Speaker 2: It makes a lot of sense for a lot of 140 00:06:52,880 --> 00:06:57,000 Speaker 2: different reasons. But that wasn't the reason why he left Utah. No, 141 00:06:57,120 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 2: I don't think it was. 142 00:06:58,360 --> 00:07:02,560 Speaker 3: I think it was from my understanding is that basically, 143 00:07:02,720 --> 00:07:05,039 Speaker 3: you know, listen when you name a coach in waiting 144 00:07:05,279 --> 00:07:09,560 Speaker 3: and I you know, we've seen this happen twenty thousand 145 00:07:09,600 --> 00:07:12,960 Speaker 3: times in college sports in the last decade, from John 146 00:07:13,000 --> 00:07:15,480 Speaker 3: Shyern coach K to Hubert Davis. I guess Hubert Davis 147 00:07:15,480 --> 00:07:18,400 Speaker 3: was never technically coach in waiting, but it's happened a lot. 148 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 3: But then the issue does become like at some point 149 00:07:21,960 --> 00:07:23,840 Speaker 3: guys got to step away, and sometimes they don't want to. 150 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:28,040 Speaker 3: So my understanding was that he kind of put this succession, 151 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:30,680 Speaker 3: you know what. It almost reminds me of Jim Beheim, 152 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,400 Speaker 3: if you remember, put a coach in waiting in place 153 00:07:33,440 --> 00:07:35,680 Speaker 3: and just refuse to leave. Yes, Mike Hopkins was the 154 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:37,560 Speaker 3: guy's name. He went to wash it. He wasn't any good. 155 00:07:38,000 --> 00:07:40,480 Speaker 3: But my understanding is that's what happened here, was that 156 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,800 Speaker 3: it was more of they named the successor. The successor 157 00:07:44,880 --> 00:07:47,560 Speaker 3: is a younger dude. He's the defensive coordinator. He's really good. 158 00:07:47,600 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: He's had other opportunities, and basically it just got to 159 00:07:50,280 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 3: a point where Kyle whitting him for however many years, two, three, four, 160 00:07:53,200 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 3: whatever it is, has just kind of kept kicking the 161 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,400 Speaker 3: can down the road. And I think the school was 162 00:07:58,440 --> 00:08:00,920 Speaker 3: one worried about losing the young guy, but to you know, 163 00:08:01,000 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: kind of about a year to year basis. So I 164 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,480 Speaker 3: think that's why he left. Now I'll say this, Dan, 165 00:08:05,520 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 3: as far as the hire is concerned, I was thinking 166 00:08:08,320 --> 00:08:12,080 Speaker 3: about this, you know, the higher works out well. Besides, 167 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:14,200 Speaker 3: given all of the things that you said about the 168 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:19,080 Speaker 3: scandal and multiple scandals and the circumstances under which he's hired, 169 00:08:19,360 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 3: I think about this, Is there an argument against Kyle 170 00:08:25,080 --> 00:08:29,240 Speaker 3: Whittingham other than his age? And I'm just asking you 171 00:08:29,240 --> 00:08:30,920 Speaker 3: maybe there is one that I'm not aware of. 172 00:08:31,320 --> 00:08:33,600 Speaker 2: God, God, I think that. I think the one thing 173 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:36,480 Speaker 2: that stands out to me. And I don't know the 174 00:08:36,520 --> 00:08:39,320 Speaker 2: breakdown of how it goes with Utah, but staff wise, 175 00:08:39,679 --> 00:08:41,600 Speaker 2: how many are going to stay in Salt Lake? How 176 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:44,480 Speaker 2: many would leave for ann Arbor, how many would stay 177 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:48,199 Speaker 2: with Morgan Scalley if that's what's his staff going to be, 178 00:08:48,200 --> 00:08:51,199 Speaker 2: because everybody's not leaving Utah now to go to Michigan. 179 00:08:51,280 --> 00:08:53,160 Speaker 3: Well, one quick note on that, Jason Beck did if 180 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:55,480 Speaker 3: the offensive coordinator. There were reports right before we got 181 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:59,280 Speaker 3: on air that he could follow he could follow Kyle Witningham, 182 00:08:59,320 --> 00:09:02,240 Speaker 3: which is very interesting because they went to a system 183 00:09:02,360 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 3: with a very run heavy, run based quarterback this year, 184 00:09:06,440 --> 00:09:09,079 Speaker 3: and we know who Michigan's quarterback we assume is gonna 185 00:09:09,080 --> 00:09:12,560 Speaker 3: be Bryce. Bryce underwould excuse me really quickly. So the 186 00:09:12,600 --> 00:09:15,840 Speaker 3: point I was gonna make, so the staff thing totally fair. 187 00:09:16,960 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 3: But let's assume the staff isn't totally gutted, and he's 188 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:21,840 Speaker 3: got a higher a staff from new and I'm sure 189 00:09:22,120 --> 00:09:23,880 Speaker 3: there's gonna be guys at Michigan that he wants to keep. 190 00:09:25,000 --> 00:09:29,200 Speaker 3: If the only argument is he's sort of old and 191 00:09:29,240 --> 00:09:31,040 Speaker 3: he's a guy that I wish we could have for 192 00:09:31,120 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 3: twenty years instead of like five to seven, that's how 193 00:09:35,080 --> 00:09:39,120 Speaker 3: you know the higher is good. Like the if the 194 00:09:39,280 --> 00:09:41,720 Speaker 3: arguments against the hire were like, well, he's only had 195 00:09:41,760 --> 00:09:44,959 Speaker 3: one good year, or he's never been a head coach, 196 00:09:45,520 --> 00:09:48,240 Speaker 3: or he was successful at the first job but not 197 00:09:48,320 --> 00:09:52,400 Speaker 3: the second one. Those are legitimate things, like Kenny Dilling. 198 00:09:53,200 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: We don't have to go candidate by candidate, right, the 199 00:09:55,679 --> 00:09:58,560 Speaker 3: only real argument against Kyle Whittingham is he's sixty six 200 00:09:58,640 --> 00:10:01,720 Speaker 3: years old, and like, oh, we might only have them 201 00:10:01,720 --> 00:10:02,400 Speaker 3: for four years. 202 00:10:02,400 --> 00:10:03,280 Speaker 2: And it's like if. 203 00:10:03,160 --> 00:10:05,920 Speaker 3: That's the only argument, that means you made a pretty 204 00:10:05,960 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: darn good high. 205 00:10:06,480 --> 00:10:09,679 Speaker 2: In my opinion, you needed somebody to navigate this and 206 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:14,160 Speaker 2: navigate it and maybe also win football games. And I 207 00:10:14,200 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 2: don't think any coach was willing to put their neck 208 00:10:16,080 --> 00:10:19,120 Speaker 2: out on the line again of this younger generation to 209 00:10:19,160 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 2: do so. So you got the best of the best 210 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:23,320 Speaker 2: of the older one and someone that I don't think, 211 00:10:23,520 --> 00:10:25,040 Speaker 2: to your point, is gonna want to sit there and 212 00:10:25,080 --> 00:10:27,800 Speaker 2: be there for fifteen years. I think they still wanted 213 00:10:27,800 --> 00:10:29,920 Speaker 2: to coach. They feel that they've got left a lot 214 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:32,280 Speaker 2: left in the tank. And I'm sure Kyle Whittingham is 215 00:10:32,320 --> 00:10:36,720 Speaker 2: now motivated considering what happened at Utah. But if you're 216 00:10:36,880 --> 00:10:39,240 Speaker 2: Michigan and you're just trying to hold down the fort 217 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 2: and make sure that the thing doesn't doesn't crumble, which 218 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,280 Speaker 2: I don't think is on the horizon, but you just 219 00:10:46,280 --> 00:10:49,199 Speaker 2: never know. You have no idea, You have no idea 220 00:10:49,600 --> 00:10:51,680 Speaker 2: what could possibly be coming, just like we had no 221 00:10:51,760 --> 00:10:55,079 Speaker 2: idea that this situation could happen with Sharon Moore. Maybe 222 00:10:55,080 --> 00:10:57,079 Speaker 2: some did it ann Arbor for a while, but we 223 00:10:57,120 --> 00:10:59,280 Speaker 2: didn't think it would end up getting to this point. 224 00:10:59,600 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 2: You've got somebody to at least keep it steady, and 225 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:04,240 Speaker 2: if you can keep it steady in the rough waters, 226 00:11:04,240 --> 00:11:08,080 Speaker 2: if that's the analogy here to get you through to 227 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,480 Speaker 2: the other end, there's probably no better person to do 228 00:11:11,559 --> 00:11:14,280 Speaker 2: it than Kyle Whittingham. In the bonus is winning football 229 00:11:14,360 --> 00:11:17,120 Speaker 2: games and having chances to beat Ohio State and getting 230 00:11:17,120 --> 00:11:18,319 Speaker 2: into the college football playoffs. 231 00:11:18,360 --> 00:11:21,920 Speaker 3: Well, and here's a counterpoint to that is that Michigan, 232 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:25,720 Speaker 3: well it wasn't pretty. They did go nine and three 233 00:11:25,800 --> 00:11:29,760 Speaker 3: this year with a coach that was very clearly distracted 234 00:11:29,800 --> 00:11:32,959 Speaker 3: on things other than football. Okay, so if you can 235 00:11:33,000 --> 00:11:36,839 Speaker 3: go go ahead, right, No, I think you're right. That's 236 00:11:36,840 --> 00:11:40,640 Speaker 3: what I'm saying is like he clearly had very he 237 00:11:40,720 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: had very clear interests, and I'm not sure the Michigan 238 00:11:43,040 --> 00:11:45,320 Speaker 3: football program was one of them. And they still went 239 00:11:45,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 3: nine and three. So it's like, now you have an 240 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,040 Speaker 3: adult in the room that has won. Now I will 241 00:11:51,080 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 3: say I you know, this was a credit to our 242 00:11:53,240 --> 00:11:55,559 Speaker 3: buddy Bernie Fratto. He's pointed this out. The schedule does 243 00:11:55,559 --> 00:11:59,240 Speaker 3: get much tougher next year. I think it's Penn State obviously, 244 00:11:59,240 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 3: Ohio State, UH, Indiana is kind of on. So like, 245 00:12:03,480 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: the schedule does get tougher. But I'm just saying, if 246 00:12:06,960 --> 00:12:09,280 Speaker 3: you won nine games this year with a by the 247 00:12:09,280 --> 00:12:13,200 Speaker 3: way freshman quarterback but a coach that very clearly was 248 00:12:13,240 --> 00:12:17,240 Speaker 3: not fully committed to the job, imagine the possibilities. Even 249 00:12:17,280 --> 00:12:19,240 Speaker 3: if it's an older guy with somebody who is very 250 00:12:19,320 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 3: much committed to me. 251 00:12:20,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 2: I think you need We do this a lot in 252 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:24,800 Speaker 2: the NFL when we're talking about fourth down plays. What 253 00:12:24,800 --> 00:12:27,120 Speaker 2: would the other team want you to do? Sure, and 254 00:12:27,160 --> 00:12:29,600 Speaker 2: you do the opposite of that. I think if you 255 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,800 Speaker 2: were today to ask any reasonable Ohio State fan how 256 00:12:32,840 --> 00:12:36,559 Speaker 2: they feel about the higher A reasonable one, not the 257 00:12:36,760 --> 00:12:39,559 Speaker 2: delusional one who thinks that they're gonna win every game 258 00:12:39,960 --> 00:12:44,600 Speaker 2: or thinks that that that everybody in ann Arbor should 259 00:12:44,600 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 2: be put in jail. That those that's the delusional fan. 260 00:12:47,240 --> 00:12:48,679 Speaker 3: Although in some cases they probably should be. 261 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 5: As in the last couple of. 262 00:12:49,679 --> 00:12:55,400 Speaker 2: Weeks, maybe as someone who kind of fits that category, 263 00:12:55,520 --> 00:12:59,400 Speaker 2: I think, yeah, I don't like it, sure from that 264 00:12:59,400 --> 00:13:01,440 Speaker 2: that point of view, because it brings stability, and it 265 00:13:01,440 --> 00:13:05,040 Speaker 2: brings it a culture of good football. And I've always 266 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:07,480 Speaker 2: liked Kyle Whittingham, and it's gonna stink to see him 267 00:13:07,480 --> 00:13:08,199 Speaker 2: in the amazing Blue. 268 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:14,160 Speaker 3: No, it's it's surreal. But yeah, I think again, And 269 00:13:14,200 --> 00:13:15,599 Speaker 3: I know this is the theme. We don't have to 270 00:13:15,679 --> 00:13:19,200 Speaker 3: keep beating up on it. But given the circumstances, we 271 00:13:19,280 --> 00:13:21,400 Speaker 3: understand the block m the history that this, even the 272 00:13:21,400 --> 00:13:25,720 Speaker 3: recent history, the three straight Big Ten championships, it was 273 00:13:25,760 --> 00:13:29,240 Speaker 3: at a disadvantageous time to hire a head coach under 274 00:13:29,280 --> 00:13:34,080 Speaker 3: disadvantageous circumstances. And I think also there was clearly increasing 275 00:13:34,200 --> 00:13:37,199 Speaker 3: pressure to get it done soon because we saw I 276 00:13:37,200 --> 00:13:39,720 Speaker 3: think Biff Pogey said it in a press conference, is 277 00:13:39,760 --> 00:13:41,640 Speaker 3: like we got guys that are gonna be ready to 278 00:13:41,679 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: opt out, Like like there's a lot of dudes that 279 00:13:44,720 --> 00:13:47,040 Speaker 3: are going to be ready to enter the portal or 280 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 3: are just gonna opt out of the bowl game if 281 00:13:48,640 --> 00:13:51,559 Speaker 3: they don't get answers because they're not whatever. So all 282 00:13:51,640 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 3: things considered, it worked out about as well as it could. 283 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 2: So Jeff Brohm's name was thrown about, sure right, like 284 00:13:56,880 --> 00:14:02,319 Speaker 2: that's and and no disrespect to him, But now you're 285 00:14:02,360 --> 00:14:06,400 Speaker 2: going down the line of all these coaches and to 286 00:14:06,480 --> 00:14:09,280 Speaker 2: come out the end and have Kyle Whittingham. 287 00:14:09,480 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 3: So what I mean, Yeah, Like I was somebody that 288 00:14:11,840 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 3: from the beginning I did feel like Jeff brom would 289 00:14:15,800 --> 00:14:18,560 Speaker 3: take the job. Just some stuff that I think I know, 290 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:22,160 Speaker 3: but like he's more in that Jedfish. He's in his fifties, 291 00:14:22,280 --> 00:14:24,360 Speaker 3: like it's kind of go time on his career, and 292 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 3: it's like if I'm gonna leave my alma mater, I'm 293 00:14:25,960 --> 00:14:27,760 Speaker 3: gonna do it soon. But I think if you had 294 00:14:27,800 --> 00:14:30,280 Speaker 3: asked me the day, you know, I don't. I don't 295 00:14:30,280 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 3: remember if Charol Moore was fired before Kyle Whittingham left 296 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:34,840 Speaker 3: or vice versa. But like if you had basically asked 297 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:36,880 Speaker 3: me to day Sharil Moore, hey you can get Kyle 298 00:14:36,920 --> 00:14:39,720 Speaker 3: Whittingham or Jeff Brom, I would take Kyle Whittingham. 299 00:14:39,720 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 2: So don't There were comments, and I mentioned this on 300 00:14:41,680 --> 00:14:43,200 Speaker 2: the show a couple of weeks ago, but when they 301 00:14:43,200 --> 00:14:46,320 Speaker 2: played their last game at rice Ecles, it sounded like 302 00:14:46,360 --> 00:14:49,240 Speaker 2: Whittingham knew that that was his last game at rice Ecles. 303 00:14:49,240 --> 00:14:51,400 Speaker 2: So people were starting to connect some of the dots. 304 00:14:51,760 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 2: It's just not gonna be his Uh, who knows. Maybe 305 00:14:55,640 --> 00:14:58,240 Speaker 2: maybe they'll have a non conference game with Utah some 306 00:14:58,320 --> 00:15:01,040 Speaker 2: other point. 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He's inventorre as. 317 00:15:29,520 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 2: I'm Dan Beyer in for Doug Gottlieb. Today the Lions 318 00:15:33,200 --> 00:15:38,000 Speaker 2: eliminated from the NFC playoff picture with that loss to 319 00:15:38,040 --> 00:15:42,360 Speaker 2: the Minnesota Vikings. It's it's always tough to lose, it's 320 00:15:42,400 --> 00:15:45,800 Speaker 2: even tougher to lose. To Max Brozmer like that was. 321 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:49,600 Speaker 2: That was tough one for the Lions yesterday in the 322 00:15:49,640 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 2: Sandwich game of the tripleheader. And then at night you 323 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:55,960 Speaker 2: the Chiefs giving all that they could against the Denver Broncos. 324 00:15:56,280 --> 00:16:00,960 Speaker 2: But the Broncos continue their winning ways despite having their 325 00:16:01,000 --> 00:16:03,400 Speaker 2: losing streak snapped last week. That bounced back in a 326 00:16:03,440 --> 00:16:06,920 Speaker 2: short week and beat the these shorthanded Kansas City Chiefs, 327 00:16:06,920 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 2: which sure seemed like the farewell to Travis Kelcey. So 328 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:12,760 Speaker 2: a lot happening on the Christmas Day in the National 329 00:16:12,760 --> 00:16:13,440 Speaker 2: Football League? 330 00:16:14,840 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 3: Can I say something really quick on I know we 331 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,560 Speaker 3: have a bigger Lions conversation to do, as I think 332 00:16:20,640 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 3: we're waiting for Mark or he's coming up, okay, So 333 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:28,200 Speaker 3: as we get Mark Dominic ready, the Lions topic is 334 00:16:28,240 --> 00:16:31,720 Speaker 3: both fascinating, but it's also sort of not fascinating to 335 00:16:31,760 --> 00:16:34,320 Speaker 3: me because everyone's like the Lions, what happened? It's like 336 00:16:35,120 --> 00:16:38,680 Speaker 3: they whifted on their OC, Like is it? It's not like, 337 00:16:39,920 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 3: you know, like the Chiefs, right, I think there's like 338 00:16:43,640 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 3: seven holes to plug on that roster before you're back 339 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,360 Speaker 3: to where you were the Lions. 340 00:16:49,400 --> 00:16:50,680 Speaker 2: It's like, I don't know. 341 00:16:50,760 --> 00:16:54,400 Speaker 3: I mean, you may have had a genius savant calling plays. 342 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:58,120 Speaker 3: You may not get a Ben Johnson again, but like 343 00:16:58,400 --> 00:17:00,280 Speaker 3: you know, with due respect to everybody who does, I 344 00:17:00,280 --> 00:17:02,880 Speaker 3: saw so many like how do the Lions fix it? 345 00:17:03,120 --> 00:17:05,679 Speaker 3: I don't know, nail the OC and you'll probably be 346 00:17:05,720 --> 00:17:06,720 Speaker 3: really good again next year. 347 00:17:06,840 --> 00:17:09,920 Speaker 2: We'll have to get some insights, maybe from a former 348 00:17:10,000 --> 00:17:12,600 Speaker 2: NFL GM who joins US now. Mark Dominic is on 349 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:16,000 Speaker 2: the line, as he always does here on Fox Sports Radio, 350 00:17:16,040 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 2: Mary Christmas, Mark, how. 351 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:20,400 Speaker 6: Are you merry Christmas? Fellas? I'm good. It's a fun 352 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:21,880 Speaker 6: week of football for sure. Yeah. 353 00:17:21,920 --> 00:17:24,879 Speaker 2: Absolutely, we were just talking about the Lions. Aaron says. 354 00:17:24,960 --> 00:17:28,000 Speaker 2: You know, step one is to figure out your offense 355 00:17:28,040 --> 00:17:32,240 Speaker 2: and offensive coordinator and find your eventual real replacement to 356 00:17:32,280 --> 00:17:36,040 Speaker 2: Ben Johnson. Are there further issues with Detroit outside of 357 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,200 Speaker 2: what happened at the OC position this year. 358 00:17:39,000 --> 00:17:41,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, you know, we can be hard. This 359 00:17:41,920 --> 00:17:43,919 Speaker 6: is also a Detroit team to put fifty points up 360 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:46,879 Speaker 6: on the board. I think during the season they've dropped 361 00:17:46,880 --> 00:17:49,040 Speaker 6: thirty to forty points almost half the year. So this 362 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:51,600 Speaker 6: team has scored points. It's just been frustrated the last 363 00:17:51,600 --> 00:17:53,960 Speaker 6: couple of weeks when you put twenty four and then 364 00:17:54,000 --> 00:17:55,960 Speaker 6: ten on the board of the last two weeks and 365 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 6: you're just not quite scoring enough. I think it's more 366 00:17:58,760 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 6: as much as it is on offensive. I think it's 367 00:18:00,320 --> 00:18:02,000 Speaker 6: also on defense. I think it's a little bit of 368 00:18:02,440 --> 00:18:06,480 Speaker 6: a combination because if you're scoring on average, if you're 369 00:18:06,520 --> 00:18:08,920 Speaker 6: scoring about twenty eight points to thirty points a game, 370 00:18:08,960 --> 00:18:10,800 Speaker 6: you'd think you'd have a lot more victories than eight. 371 00:18:10,840 --> 00:18:13,360 Speaker 6: At this point we did the Detroit Lions, and I think, 372 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,000 Speaker 6: you know, some things are just falling apart from them. 373 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:18,720 Speaker 6: I look at it as a complete like hold tight, 374 00:18:19,320 --> 00:18:21,800 Speaker 6: let's not panic here. It's not the season that anybody 375 00:18:21,800 --> 00:18:25,000 Speaker 6: expected to Detroit, and that's frustrated across the board. But 376 00:18:25,040 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 6: it doesn't mean you just need to go throw everything 377 00:18:26,800 --> 00:18:28,679 Speaker 6: in the boat and off the boat and say Hey, 378 00:18:28,760 --> 00:18:30,440 Speaker 6: how are we going to do everything again next year? 379 00:18:30,720 --> 00:18:33,520 Speaker 6: Continuity is something that's nice and I think for the 380 00:18:33,560 --> 00:18:36,159 Speaker 6: Detroit Lions, in my personal opinion, I don't think you 381 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 6: quickly go out and do anything else. You know, obviously, 382 00:18:39,400 --> 00:18:41,600 Speaker 6: with John Morton and what they're going to do, we'll 383 00:18:41,600 --> 00:18:43,119 Speaker 6: see who they choose or what they're going to have. 384 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,720 Speaker 6: They're going to play that out. But Kelvin Sheppard, like 385 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:46,760 Speaker 6: I said, on the defensive side, I want as much 386 00:18:46,800 --> 00:18:49,160 Speaker 6: continuity as I can, so even if it comes from internal, 387 00:18:49,520 --> 00:18:51,960 Speaker 6: I think that's important because I think in a year 388 00:18:51,960 --> 00:18:53,879 Speaker 6: from now, we can look at the Detroit team and 389 00:18:53,920 --> 00:18:55,600 Speaker 6: go but they didn't do a lot yet, They've gotten 390 00:18:55,600 --> 00:18:57,320 Speaker 6: so much better and I think that's what we can see. 391 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:00,679 Speaker 6: The offensive line, to me is still a spot special interior. 392 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:03,000 Speaker 6: The offensive line that's to me where they really kind 393 00:19:03,000 --> 00:19:04,600 Speaker 6: of struggled this year, and I think that's gonna be 394 00:19:04,640 --> 00:19:05,679 Speaker 6: something they have to address. 395 00:19:05,960 --> 00:19:08,360 Speaker 3: Let's stay in that same game. I know JJ McCarthy 396 00:19:08,440 --> 00:19:10,240 Speaker 3: did not play in this game, and I know he 397 00:19:10,280 --> 00:19:13,320 Speaker 3: got hurt in the Giants game, but previous two games 398 00:19:13,359 --> 00:19:16,000 Speaker 3: before that, five touchdowns, one interception. You have the big 399 00:19:16,040 --> 00:19:20,320 Speaker 3: Sunday Night win against Dallas. I under with JJ McCarthy. 400 00:19:20,359 --> 00:19:22,680 Speaker 3: I understood both sides. Have you won a million games 401 00:19:22,720 --> 00:19:24,400 Speaker 3: last year with Sam Donald? Do you let him walk? 402 00:19:24,440 --> 00:19:28,400 Speaker 3: Sam Donald's having success? I also felt like everybody skewed 403 00:19:28,440 --> 00:19:31,119 Speaker 3: too far the other way because, in my opinion, he 404 00:19:31,240 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 3: was essentially a rookie quarterback after essentially taking no snaps 405 00:19:34,920 --> 00:19:38,119 Speaker 3: last year. Just again, I know it's hard because he 406 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:42,000 Speaker 3: didn't play last night to evaluate him, the vikings, whatever. 407 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 3: I just feel like I still feel like there's a 408 00:19:45,960 --> 00:19:48,359 Speaker 3: lot of chapters to be written in the JJ McCarthy, 409 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:50,919 Speaker 3: you know story before we just write him off as 410 00:19:50,960 --> 00:19:51,960 Speaker 3: this total bus Do you agree? 411 00:19:51,960 --> 00:19:52,440 Speaker 2: Disagree? 412 00:19:53,000 --> 00:19:54,720 Speaker 6: I do agree, And you know I want to give 413 00:19:54,760 --> 00:19:57,040 Speaker 6: him another full season, just like you know, I'd like 414 00:19:57,080 --> 00:19:59,000 Speaker 6: to see, you know, a couple more seasons out of 415 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 6: Caleb Waves before I just write the check book, right. 416 00:20:01,760 --> 00:20:04,399 Speaker 6: And it's with JJ, certainly not the season that I 417 00:20:04,560 --> 00:20:06,080 Speaker 6: thought he'd have. I thought he'd have a little bit 418 00:20:06,080 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 6: better season. But his big thing is, you know, availability 419 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 6: is a big part of this game, is we all know. 420 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:12,960 Speaker 6: And I think one of the things that's really frustrated 421 00:20:12,960 --> 00:20:14,719 Speaker 6: from Minnesota and their fans is to watch how many 422 00:20:14,720 --> 00:20:17,639 Speaker 6: times their quarterbacks got hit this year. I mean, I 423 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,800 Speaker 6: think they gave up over almost sixty sacks on the season, 424 00:20:20,840 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 6: So I don't know who you're going to put back there. 425 00:20:22,760 --> 00:20:24,840 Speaker 6: That's a big problem they have to address in this 426 00:20:24,920 --> 00:20:27,040 Speaker 6: offseason as well. And I know it's never exciting or 427 00:20:27,040 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 6: sexy to draft an offensive line in the first or 428 00:20:29,520 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 6: second round. You never get the good you know, post 429 00:20:31,480 --> 00:20:33,679 Speaker 6: draft grades. You didn't draft the receiver that every likes, 430 00:20:33,800 --> 00:20:36,119 Speaker 6: or the tight end or the you know, big pass rusher. 431 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,320 Speaker 6: But you know, the offensive line is so critical. And 432 00:20:38,400 --> 00:20:40,679 Speaker 6: if you take a step back and look at Caleb 433 00:20:40,720 --> 00:20:43,560 Speaker 6: Williams and what he's done in the Bears, a lot 434 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:45,040 Speaker 6: of it has to do with what the Bears did 435 00:20:45,040 --> 00:20:47,280 Speaker 6: this offseason on that offensive line. This has really been 436 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:48,480 Speaker 6: a catalyst for that team. 437 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:51,520 Speaker 2: Mark Dominic joining us here on Fox Sports Radio. He's here, 438 00:20:51,560 --> 00:20:54,040 Speaker 2: and Torres, I'm Dan Byer, Mark, former GM of the 439 00:20:54,040 --> 00:20:57,720 Speaker 2: Tampa Bay Buccaneers. I'm curious with your twenty plus years 440 00:20:57,760 --> 00:21:01,639 Speaker 2: experience in front office. Is it's not a chicken in 441 00:21:01,680 --> 00:21:03,920 Speaker 2: the egg sort of deal. But we had Chris Ola 442 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:06,600 Speaker 2: Dokin starting last night for the Chiefs. We had Max 443 00:21:06,640 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 2: Brosmore starting for the Minnesota Vikings. We got Brady Cook 444 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 2: starting for the New York Jets. Dolphins have turned to 445 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:16,880 Speaker 2: Quinn Yours. I understand why the Dolphins made the decision 446 00:21:16,920 --> 00:21:19,400 Speaker 2: that they made, but there seems to be a real 447 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,000 Speaker 2: question on the quality of quarterback play when we're getting 448 00:21:23,040 --> 00:21:26,199 Speaker 2: down to second and third string quarterbacks. Has this always 449 00:21:26,200 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 2: been an issue? Does the NFL have to figure out 450 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:31,919 Speaker 2: a way to develop these quarterbacks so we're not watching 451 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,120 Speaker 2: guys who really can't throw the football. What has been 452 00:21:35,200 --> 00:21:39,600 Speaker 2: your experience with the I guess limitations in trying to 453 00:21:40,359 --> 00:21:42,640 Speaker 2: develop guys to play that important position. 454 00:21:43,480 --> 00:21:46,040 Speaker 6: Yeah, I look at this. That's tougher, Dan, because I 455 00:21:46,080 --> 00:21:49,240 Speaker 6: look at it and see, since you know, the the 456 00:21:49,240 --> 00:21:52,440 Speaker 6: pricice squads have been expanded in the amount you're easily 457 00:21:52,480 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 6: able to keep one or two extra quarterbacks maybe on 458 00:21:55,040 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 6: your private squad as you work with them and develop them. 459 00:21:57,840 --> 00:22:01,360 Speaker 6: But there's such a difference, as you guys know, between hey, 460 00:22:01,359 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 6: great rep and practice where you can't lose the game, 461 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:05,440 Speaker 6: and there's a rep in the regular season where you can. 462 00:22:05,800 --> 00:22:09,200 Speaker 6: And it's just you know, the processing and the development. 463 00:22:09,240 --> 00:22:11,119 Speaker 6: I think we're going to be okay. I think the 464 00:22:11,119 --> 00:22:14,520 Speaker 6: more important part of this league is yes, you have 465 00:22:14,600 --> 00:22:16,800 Speaker 6: your quarterback. But I think clubs have kind of taken 466 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:18,920 Speaker 6: it for granted, like, Okay, you know we're going to 467 00:22:19,000 --> 00:22:21,200 Speaker 6: spend fifty five million dollars in our quarterback. Then we're 468 00:22:21,200 --> 00:22:22,400 Speaker 6: going to go buy the left end and the wide 469 00:22:22,400 --> 00:22:25,480 Speaker 6: receiver and instead not thinking maybe you should have another 470 00:22:25,560 --> 00:22:27,879 Speaker 6: twelve million to fifteen million dollars back based on that 471 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 6: second string quarterback, because in case of I don't want 472 00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:32,920 Speaker 6: to look to my owner and say the season's over. 473 00:22:32,960 --> 00:22:34,040 Speaker 6: I want to be able to say, hey, look we 474 00:22:34,080 --> 00:22:36,760 Speaker 6: can battle through this and maybe could the other side, 475 00:22:36,760 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 6: maybe an injury for our quarterback isn't that bad, Or 476 00:22:39,600 --> 00:22:41,600 Speaker 6: we can still win with this guy and we're gonna 477 00:22:41,600 --> 00:22:43,160 Speaker 6: have to have everybody else step up. And he might 478 00:22:43,160 --> 00:22:45,280 Speaker 6: not be the quarterback, might not be the reason we're winning, 479 00:22:45,480 --> 00:22:47,480 Speaker 6: but we win with him. And so that's what I 480 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:49,760 Speaker 6: think clubs have to look at, is what do I 481 00:22:49,800 --> 00:22:52,880 Speaker 6: want to invest in the number two? And it's not 482 00:22:53,119 --> 00:22:54,679 Speaker 6: Maybe it's not a young guy. It depending on who 483 00:22:54,720 --> 00:22:56,840 Speaker 6: your starter is, but maybe it's that veteran, it's that 484 00:22:56,880 --> 00:22:58,920 Speaker 6: guy that's played around a little bit that you said, hey, 485 00:22:58,920 --> 00:23:01,919 Speaker 6: look a Davis Mills, right, something like that. Even a 486 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:05,160 Speaker 6: guy that's battled injuries in is young still Aidan O'Connell, 487 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:06,960 Speaker 6: who's like, I'm not sure what he is or who 488 00:23:06,960 --> 00:23:08,879 Speaker 6: he is, but boy when he plays, he's still got 489 00:23:08,880 --> 00:23:11,120 Speaker 6: a better touchdown to the interception ratio, and Davis Mills 490 00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:12,239 Speaker 6: the same way. So I think you got a look 491 00:23:12,280 --> 00:23:14,760 Speaker 6: at those type of players and say maybe the investments 492 00:23:14,760 --> 00:23:17,160 Speaker 6: should be a little bit stronger. They're based off where 493 00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,480 Speaker 6: the CAP's going to make sure that if my star 494 00:23:19,600 --> 00:23:22,560 Speaker 6: quarterback isn't able to be there for four weeks or 495 00:23:22,560 --> 00:23:24,800 Speaker 6: eight weeks, I still can take this team and get 496 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,080 Speaker 6: to the postseason and show something. So I think investing 497 00:23:28,119 --> 00:23:30,239 Speaker 6: in trying to allocate those funds towards that number two 498 00:23:30,320 --> 00:23:32,360 Speaker 6: quarterbacks still is really critical, and I think clubs are 499 00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:33,560 Speaker 6: starting to see that again. 500 00:23:33,680 --> 00:23:37,040 Speaker 2: So then basically we're just kind of we're kind of 501 00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:39,200 Speaker 2: at the mercy of what a third string quarterback is 502 00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:42,120 Speaker 2: because that's kind of how it looks like there's nothing 503 00:23:42,160 --> 00:23:44,720 Speaker 2: that the Vikings could do. Really, I just don't want 504 00:23:44,760 --> 00:23:47,440 Speaker 2: to watch Max Brosmer run for his life every time, 505 00:23:47,480 --> 00:23:49,560 Speaker 2: but it kind of seems like that's kind of what 506 00:23:49,600 --> 00:23:51,040 Speaker 2: we have to deal with in the NFL. 507 00:23:51,440 --> 00:23:53,639 Speaker 6: Dan, I think you're right, you know, and I think 508 00:23:54,040 --> 00:23:58,160 Speaker 6: part of that is, you know, one less preseason game, 509 00:23:58,200 --> 00:24:00,159 Speaker 6: and one day we're gonna have one less preseason game, 510 00:24:00,200 --> 00:24:02,520 Speaker 6: will have the two preseasons at some point, and part 511 00:24:02,560 --> 00:24:05,520 Speaker 6: of that's going to be that you can't beat experienced 512 00:24:05,560 --> 00:24:07,880 Speaker 6: and for these young quarterbacks in the league that are 513 00:24:07,880 --> 00:24:10,280 Speaker 6: like I probably won't play, he's taking the third step 514 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,639 Speaker 6: the reps. You know, he's just doing scout team. You know, 515 00:24:12,720 --> 00:24:14,639 Speaker 6: he's pretending to be the starter for the other club. 516 00:24:14,720 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 6: So he's not even really working in his own offense. 517 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,480 Speaker 6: He's working with the other offense does and so they're 518 00:24:19,480 --> 00:24:22,040 Speaker 6: not getting the reps to be able to say, hey, look, 519 00:24:22,119 --> 00:24:24,240 Speaker 6: if it's my turner, I get my number called and 520 00:24:24,359 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 6: I'll be ready to go. And so for like Max 521 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:27,920 Speaker 6: and things like that, he's been running the scout team 522 00:24:27,920 --> 00:24:30,399 Speaker 6: all year. He's pretending to be the Bears and the 523 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:32,679 Speaker 6: Lions and the Packers and instead now he's got to 524 00:24:32,720 --> 00:24:35,399 Speaker 6: be the Vikings and that's hard. And we saw that 525 00:24:35,480 --> 00:24:37,320 Speaker 6: last night with you know, like you said, you're running 526 00:24:37,359 --> 00:24:39,399 Speaker 6: around and hopefully to make enough plays that they can 527 00:24:39,440 --> 00:24:41,480 Speaker 6: stay in it. And defensively they did. 528 00:24:42,160 --> 00:24:45,639 Speaker 3: Mark let me ask you this, there's a excuse me, 529 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 3: a little bit of a hot internet rumor right now, 530 00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,360 Speaker 3: or an Internet conversation happening. Obviously, the Giants right now 531 00:24:51,440 --> 00:24:54,240 Speaker 3: are trending to potentially get the number one overall pick. 532 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,640 Speaker 3: Jackson Dart a little bit of a concussion issue or 533 00:24:57,720 --> 00:25:01,200 Speaker 3: at least, you know whatever, he's susceptible, whatever, And it 534 00:25:01,320 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 3: feels like there is this conversation of one year in 535 00:25:05,400 --> 00:25:08,080 Speaker 3: do you trade Jackson Dart and use that number one 536 00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,359 Speaker 3: pick hypothetically on Fernando Mendoza. Now I understand probably to 537 00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:12,960 Speaker 3: this point you haven't done a ton of homework on 538 00:25:13,000 --> 00:25:15,919 Speaker 3: Fernando Mendoza. You're focused on the season going on. But 539 00:25:16,000 --> 00:25:18,320 Speaker 3: as a former GM, it feels, let me put it 540 00:25:18,359 --> 00:25:20,480 Speaker 3: this way, it feels like this is one of those 541 00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:24,719 Speaker 3: great Internet conversations that outside of Kyler Murray and Josh Rosen, 542 00:25:24,920 --> 00:25:27,760 Speaker 3: I don't really ever remember happening when you draft a 543 00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,919 Speaker 3: guy you don't really know much about him and you 544 00:25:29,960 --> 00:25:33,480 Speaker 3: immediately draft over him. I don't even know really what 545 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:35,359 Speaker 3: the question is, but I just think it's one of 546 00:25:35,359 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 3: those that sounds like a fun topic and a fun 547 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,640 Speaker 3: discussion in December that doesn't really come to Fruition in April. 548 00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:43,480 Speaker 3: Do you have any thoughts on what the Giants code 549 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:45,080 Speaker 3: or should potentially do with that first. 550 00:25:44,840 --> 00:25:48,359 Speaker 6: Pick if they can get Yeah, and I appreciate it. 551 00:25:48,359 --> 00:25:51,640 Speaker 6: I do think there's some fun there. But I also 552 00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:54,560 Speaker 6: look at Jackson Dart and and you know, when we 553 00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:57,760 Speaker 6: talked about you know, the you know, uh, you know 554 00:25:57,920 --> 00:26:00,280 Speaker 6: JJ McCarthy and his touchdown intercepts you right, show And 555 00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,879 Speaker 6: I know that's an easy number to look at for 556 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 6: any fan, but at least Jackson's was thirteen to five, right, 557 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:07,880 Speaker 6: And so you're you're sitting there going, well, you know, yes, 558 00:26:07,960 --> 00:26:09,960 Speaker 6: he's got to find a way to learn how to slide, 559 00:26:10,160 --> 00:26:12,760 Speaker 6: like we've heard that before as well, and I think 560 00:26:12,840 --> 00:26:14,560 Speaker 6: Jackson can be taught that to make sure that he 561 00:26:14,680 --> 00:26:17,160 Speaker 6: stayed in the game. I would have a hard time 562 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,400 Speaker 6: walking away from Jackson Dark right now and taking Mendoza. 563 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,920 Speaker 6: I have not done enough work on Mendoza as a person. 564 00:26:24,280 --> 00:26:26,359 Speaker 6: You know, there's still questions on you know, what's he 565 00:26:26,520 --> 00:26:28,040 Speaker 6: like as a leader, what's he like as a guy 566 00:26:28,040 --> 00:26:30,000 Speaker 6: in the locker room. I think those are really big 567 00:26:30,080 --> 00:26:32,800 Speaker 6: questions that as fans we haven't dug into that. And 568 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 6: I'm not saying there's something bad there. I'm just saying 569 00:26:35,359 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: the capability of the leadership of a player and how 570 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:41,120 Speaker 6: he leads the team and what the team around him 571 00:26:41,119 --> 00:26:43,360 Speaker 6: thinks of him is critical. I fell into that trap 572 00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:44,960 Speaker 6: a little bit. I had a young quarterback who was 573 00:26:45,000 --> 00:26:48,560 Speaker 6: outstanding in terms of athletic gifts and arm talent and 574 00:26:48,920 --> 00:26:52,960 Speaker 6: quarterback skills in Josh Freeman, but he wasn't a great leader. 575 00:26:53,119 --> 00:26:55,679 Speaker 6: And you know that costs over time. That cost me, 576 00:26:55,840 --> 00:26:58,840 Speaker 6: and so I'm very sensitive to that, and I would 577 00:26:58,880 --> 00:27:00,800 Speaker 6: like to know that about Mendoza. I just don't know 578 00:27:00,840 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 6: what that is yet. And I've got a little caution 579 00:27:03,359 --> 00:27:06,680 Speaker 6: there just because and so I think jack Jackson dark. 580 00:27:06,720 --> 00:27:08,560 Speaker 6: The bigger thing is like, can you get him some 581 00:27:08,600 --> 00:27:11,240 Speaker 6: more another weapon? You know? Is it the wide receiver? 582 00:27:11,280 --> 00:27:13,119 Speaker 6: Because it's a really good receiver class, is it? 583 00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:13,639 Speaker 2: You know? 584 00:27:13,680 --> 00:27:14,960 Speaker 6: I don't know if there's no offen to line, but 585 00:27:15,000 --> 00:27:17,919 Speaker 6: I think it's better for the Giants to have. The 586 00:27:18,040 --> 00:27:20,040 Speaker 6: chatter is how far can they trade back in the 587 00:27:20,040 --> 00:27:22,760 Speaker 6: first and hopefully find a taker for the number one 588 00:27:22,760 --> 00:27:24,800 Speaker 6: pick and still get the player they want, Because that's 589 00:27:24,800 --> 00:27:26,440 Speaker 6: where you've got to really balance it, right. You can't 590 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,480 Speaker 6: just I'm going to trade back to thirteen because that's 591 00:27:28,520 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 6: the best offer. It's like, you still want to walk 592 00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:31,720 Speaker 6: out with a guy that's going to make a huge 593 00:27:31,720 --> 00:27:33,160 Speaker 6: impact because you're going to have to win in two 594 00:27:33,160 --> 00:27:37,520 Speaker 6: thousand and twenty six, especially for the GM. So I 595 00:27:37,520 --> 00:27:40,359 Speaker 6: think that you've got to find out where your line 596 00:27:40,359 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 6: of you know, demarcation is in terms of where the 597 00:27:42,960 --> 00:27:45,479 Speaker 6: skill set's still elite. And I still feel like I'm 598 00:27:45,480 --> 00:27:48,280 Speaker 6: getting a top player versus, you know, just trade to trade, 599 00:27:48,560 --> 00:27:50,120 Speaker 6: and I think that's what the Giants, that's what we'll 600 00:27:50,160 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 6: be talking about if the Giants hold on to this pick. 601 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:54,480 Speaker 2: I got one last one for you, Mark Dominic joining 602 00:27:54,520 --> 00:27:57,240 Speaker 2: us here on Fox Sports Radio. There are some rumblings 603 00:27:57,240 --> 00:27:59,119 Speaker 2: in Baltimore this week. There have been rumblings over the 604 00:27:59,160 --> 00:28:01,959 Speaker 2: last couple of weeks. Has a player ever set a 605 00:28:02,000 --> 00:28:04,600 Speaker 2: practice schedule for a team in your history in the 606 00:28:04,680 --> 00:28:07,879 Speaker 2: National Football League? Because I was alleged in a column 607 00:28:07,920 --> 00:28:10,359 Speaker 2: in the Baltimore Sun that the Ravens practice in the 608 00:28:10,400 --> 00:28:13,239 Speaker 2: afternoon because that's when Lamar Jackson wants to practice. There 609 00:28:13,240 --> 00:28:17,240 Speaker 2: were other claims made about Jackson's preparation and maybe falling 610 00:28:17,280 --> 00:28:20,959 Speaker 2: asleep in movies, but the practice time was something that 611 00:28:21,040 --> 00:28:23,520 Speaker 2: alerted me. Has that ever happened in your experience in 612 00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,040 Speaker 2: the NFL? 613 00:28:24,960 --> 00:28:29,159 Speaker 6: No, nothing like that. The coach coach handles that and 614 00:28:29,240 --> 00:28:31,600 Speaker 6: make sure that's happening. And I know there's a rumors 615 00:28:31,600 --> 00:28:34,720 Speaker 6: and stuff about Harbaugh. Possibly if he got let go, 616 00:28:34,800 --> 00:28:37,080 Speaker 6: he'd be picked up in two seconds as a head 617 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,120 Speaker 6: coach somewhere else. I don't worry about that. That is 618 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,520 Speaker 6: surprising to me. I don't know if I completely agree 619 00:28:42,560 --> 00:28:45,800 Speaker 6: with that. I'm sure you're trying to find the right 620 00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:48,520 Speaker 6: balance of right rhythm, but I've never ever heard of 621 00:28:48,520 --> 00:28:52,120 Speaker 6: a story like that before. And I will say, you know, obviously, 622 00:28:52,160 --> 00:28:55,400 Speaker 6: the Giants play the Raiders, and I just feel like 623 00:28:55,600 --> 00:28:57,400 Speaker 6: in the end it's not gonna be a just sexy, 624 00:28:57,440 --> 00:28:58,840 Speaker 6: but I think the Raiders end up with the number 625 00:28:58,880 --> 00:28:59,480 Speaker 6: picking the draft. 626 00:29:00,160 --> 00:29:04,680 Speaker 2: Interesting. All right. He's Mark Dominic, our NFL Insider. We 627 00:29:04,760 --> 00:29:07,400 Speaker 2: appreciate the time. Happy New Year, Mark. We'll talk to 628 00:29:07,400 --> 00:29:08,480 Speaker 2: again in twenty twenty six. 629 00:29:08,920 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 6: Thanks for having me on, guys. Happy to your fellows. 630 00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:14,560 Speaker 7: Ryan Kennedy. He is the Detroit Lions fan who was 631 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,960 Speaker 7: involved in that physical confrontation with Steelers receiver DK Metcalf, 632 00:29:19,040 --> 00:29:22,280 Speaker 7: leading to Metcalf being suspended for two games, held a 633 00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:26,920 Speaker 7: news conference where he denied Metcalf's accusation that he used 634 00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,440 Speaker 7: a racial slur during the confrontation. 635 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:33,120 Speaker 8: Listen, it is really hard to get me upset. 636 00:29:33,280 --> 00:29:35,000 Speaker 6: But there's two things. 637 00:29:35,400 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 8: Animal abuse racism. Like I get hot right away, Like 638 00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,040 Speaker 8: I could feel it my face, it gets all warm. 639 00:29:42,360 --> 00:29:47,040 Speaker 8: I didn't use any racial slurs, no hate speech. I mean, 640 00:29:47,160 --> 00:29:49,720 Speaker 8: none of that stopped at the game. To Kaitlin, if 641 00:29:49,760 --> 00:29:53,280 Speaker 8: you're watching this, man, if you could just say that, please, Like, 642 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,120 Speaker 8: my family's getting threats and stuff and it's not cool. 643 00:29:57,360 --> 00:29:59,600 Speaker 8: So I'm sure you didn't want that to happen to 644 00:29:59,600 --> 00:30:02,400 Speaker 8: the family. That's all I got. 645 00:30:02,800 --> 00:30:07,400 Speaker 7: Oh final footnote on that mister Kennedy conducted the news 646 00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:11,520 Speaker 7: conference while wearing a Lions cap backwards back to you guys. 647 00:30:12,160 --> 00:30:14,120 Speaker 3: I actually saw that clip. I was like, I am 648 00:30:14,160 --> 00:30:16,120 Speaker 3: sure the Lions are over the moon that he is 649 00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,520 Speaker 3: wearing team paraphernalia while he is press conference. 650 00:30:19,520 --> 00:30:22,640 Speaker 2: Sticking to the sticking to the bit. Do we want 651 00:30:22,680 --> 00:30:24,640 Speaker 2: to dive into this? You guys have thoughts on that 652 00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:25,000 Speaker 2: at all? 653 00:30:25,640 --> 00:30:27,960 Speaker 9: I had a lot of thoughts. We should get to 654 00:30:28,000 --> 00:30:30,560 Speaker 9: it in the next three hours. But I just like 655 00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 9: the fact that he's somebody is demanding that at the 656 00:30:34,240 --> 00:30:36,400 Speaker 9: very least DK say he never said. 657 00:30:36,160 --> 00:30:40,800 Speaker 2: That, Yes, but but saying it in the reason and 658 00:30:40,840 --> 00:30:43,160 Speaker 2: calling him to Kaalin, which is the reason why DK 659 00:30:43,400 --> 00:30:46,480 Speaker 2: was mad in the first place, is him also sticking 660 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,560 Speaker 2: to his guns in saying that what he said was 661 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:54,040 Speaker 2: not wrong. I think that there's that way of weaving 662 00:30:54,640 --> 00:30:55,160 Speaker 2: in and out. 663 00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:58,080 Speaker 5: Iowa, Sam, you mean his gun that's made out made 664 00:30:58,120 --> 00:31:01,320 Speaker 5: into like a balloon animal because this guy's a oh wow, 665 00:31:03,240 --> 00:31:05,840 Speaker 5: Like I'm sorry. What happened with DK did was clownish, 666 00:31:05,920 --> 00:31:09,400 Speaker 5: But this guy is a clown. Okay, because he may 667 00:31:09,440 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 5: be innocent of this, but this guy is still going 668 00:31:11,360 --> 00:31:15,080 Speaker 5: around and antagonizing players. If you are that kind of person, 669 00:31:15,120 --> 00:31:16,200 Speaker 5: that's clownish behavior. 670 00:31:16,600 --> 00:31:19,440 Speaker 2: I'll say like I've been. I've been on jumping back 671 00:31:19,480 --> 00:31:21,400 Speaker 2: and forth like rope on this story because I thought 672 00:31:21,440 --> 00:31:23,880 Speaker 2: the guy was a clown for saying anything that would 673 00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 2: make a player respond. And then I heard what was said, 674 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:28,400 Speaker 2: and then heard what was alleged and didn't believe for 675 00:31:28,400 --> 00:31:30,920 Speaker 2: a second that he said the slur, the derogatory term. 676 00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:32,920 Speaker 2: And then when he goes back to the press conference 677 00:31:32,960 --> 00:31:34,600 Speaker 2: and is sticking to his guns by calling him to 678 00:31:34,640 --> 00:31:37,160 Speaker 2: Galen Ook that that's like, all right, what are we 679 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:37,640 Speaker 2: doing here? 680 00:31:37,720 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, we're going back and forth, Like you really want 681 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:40,680 Speaker 5: him to come out and say the truth, and you're 682 00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 5: gonna call him by his government name. You really think 683 00:31:42,640 --> 00:31:44,120 Speaker 5: that's gonna help your help the matter. 684 00:31:44,400 --> 00:31:46,920 Speaker 2: No, it's not. No, it's that's clownish behavior. 685 00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:48,120 Speaker 5: It's continuing on and on. 686 00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 687 00:31:51,040 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox sports 688 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,880 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio. 689 00:31:56,160 --> 00:32:03,600 Speaker 2: App Fox Sports Radio. He's Aaron Torres, I'm Dan Byer, 690 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,800 Speaker 2: Iowa Samus here, as is Jason Stewart. 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ESPN reports Green Bay Packers quarterback Jordan 701 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:47,960 Speaker 7: Love won't play tomorrow night against Baltimore due to a concussion. 702 00:32:48,160 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 7: Malik Willis is expected to get the start there, guys. 703 00:32:51,080 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 2: Thank you for that information, Isaac Lohenkron. Time now for 704 00:32:54,320 --> 00:32:56,440 Speaker 2: our ti Iraq Player of the Day. For over forty years, 705 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:58,880 Speaker 2: ty Iraq has been helping customers find the right tires 706 00:32:58,880 --> 00:33:00,760 Speaker 2: for how, what and where they drive. 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This has 716 00:33:35,720 --> 00:33:38,040 Speaker 2: kind of gotten under your skin a little bit as well. 717 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:41,000 Speaker 3: Well. I'll be very quick because we have some good 718 00:33:41,040 --> 00:33:44,080 Speaker 3: sound from a USC Alum. I don't even care that 719 00:33:44,120 --> 00:33:47,600 Speaker 3: it got canceled. But USC is just making stuff up 720 00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:49,400 Speaker 3: as to why, Like first of all, the whole week 721 00:33:49,520 --> 00:33:54,200 Speaker 3: zero thing. You can't play week zero games unless you're 722 00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:57,920 Speaker 3: playing overseas or playing Hawaii, so it's just made up. 723 00:33:58,000 --> 00:33:59,440 Speaker 3: If you just don't want to play them because you 724 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,200 Speaker 3: don't want to take lost, that's fine, but acknowledge it. 725 00:34:02,640 --> 00:34:05,880 Speaker 3: And Ross Ellinger's report actually basically confirmed that as much. 726 00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:06,240 Speaker 6: This week. 727 00:34:06,320 --> 00:34:10,600 Speaker 2: Petros Papadekas, of course, Fox College football analyst and USC alum, 728 00:34:11,120 --> 00:34:13,440 Speaker 2: was on the Dan Patrick Show earlier today with Jonas 729 00:34:13,480 --> 00:34:16,000 Speaker 2: Knox and Brady Quinnen had this to say, if this. 730 00:34:16,120 --> 00:34:19,680 Speaker 4: Is your job as a leadership position at the universities, 731 00:34:20,400 --> 00:34:24,479 Speaker 4: it was your job to preserve this and your job 732 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:27,799 Speaker 4: to understand it and how important it is. And the 733 00:34:27,880 --> 00:34:31,320 Speaker 4: truth is, ever since Lincoln Riley got the USC job, 734 00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:34,719 Speaker 4: he has tried to wriggle out of games that were 735 00:34:35,680 --> 00:34:41,200 Speaker 4: non conference that were difficult. This guy is preoccupied with 736 00:34:42,360 --> 00:34:45,960 Speaker 4: making sure they have winnable games all the time. That's 737 00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:49,040 Speaker 4: not what the USC coach is supposed to be. Maybe 738 00:34:49,160 --> 00:34:51,640 Speaker 4: leadership at US is corroda to the point where it 739 00:34:51,760 --> 00:34:55,760 Speaker 4: is but to me, the bar is very high at USC. 740 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:59,480 Speaker 4: If you can't handle that before you even coach one game. 741 00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:02,680 Speaker 4: There was talking about the Notre Dame rivalry before he 742 00:35:02,760 --> 00:35:06,120 Speaker 4: even coached a game. Then he should not be there either. 743 00:35:06,200 --> 00:35:07,440 Speaker 4: It is a travesty. 744 00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:12,880 Speaker 2: It will be different even for fans not of USC 745 00:35:13,000 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: and Notre Dame. Sure, but this rivalry, to me, there's 746 00:35:16,600 --> 00:35:19,399 Speaker 2: a bigger thing at stake. You want to know why, 747 00:35:19,480 --> 00:35:22,200 Speaker 2: I think that's taken people a while to warm up 748 00:35:22,200 --> 00:35:26,560 Speaker 2: to the college football playoff. It's because of rivalry games 749 00:35:26,600 --> 00:35:27,840 Speaker 2: like there was already. 750 00:35:27,480 --> 00:35:29,960 Speaker 3: Because all that matters is making the playoffs well. 751 00:35:30,080 --> 00:35:34,480 Speaker 2: And I think, honestly, to some of these schools, what 752 00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:39,160 Speaker 2: matters most above anything else is beating your rival. And 753 00:35:39,840 --> 00:35:43,640 Speaker 2: so when Ohio State plays Michigan, trust me, he wasn't 754 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:47,040 Speaker 2: the conversation last year. Yeah, Ohio State won the national championship, 755 00:35:47,040 --> 00:35:50,440 Speaker 2: but he didn't beat Michigan that year. This year, it 756 00:35:50,600 --> 00:35:53,400 Speaker 2: was the only game for Ohio State. It was the 757 00:35:53,440 --> 00:35:56,080 Speaker 2: Michigan game. And I would think that USC Notre Dame 758 00:35:56,719 --> 00:35:59,160 Speaker 2: rises to that level. No, I'm not stupid enough to 759 00:35:59,200 --> 00:36:01,600 Speaker 2: say that USC could go one in ten, one and 760 00:36:01,640 --> 00:36:03,960 Speaker 2: eleven every year and if they beat Notre Dame every season, 761 00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:06,839 Speaker 2: that that is a good enough season, but I think 762 00:36:06,920 --> 00:36:10,919 Speaker 2: that's these rivalry games and now we're essueing them for 763 00:36:11,000 --> 00:36:14,360 Speaker 2: the college football playoff, like that's why we're getting diminishing 764 00:36:14,400 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 2: returns as well. 765 00:36:15,600 --> 00:36:18,200 Speaker 3: Yeah, I just I think there's a broader metaphor what 766 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:21,839 Speaker 3: you're getting to, which is just literally everything is now 767 00:36:21,920 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 3: just totally built towards making the playoff and nothing else matters. 768 00:36:26,080 --> 00:36:28,680 Speaker 3: And that's not what college football is or ever has been. 769 00:36:29,239 --> 00:36:32,719 Speaker 2: It's tough. Even the quarterfinal games is the casuals? You 770 00:36:32,760 --> 00:36:35,440 Speaker 2: and I'll be locked into them. Jason Stewart and I 771 00:36:35,440 --> 00:36:38,200 Speaker 2: had a conversation a couple of days ago. First round 772 00:36:38,200 --> 00:36:42,480 Speaker 2: didn't do anything for him. Second round. We have great names, 773 00:36:42,520 --> 00:36:45,200 Speaker 2: great teams, but is it drawing you to the TV 774 00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 2: like you do? You have to see the Cotton Bowl, 775 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,359 Speaker 2: the see Ohio State and Miami on New Year's Eve night. 776 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:51,880 Speaker 2: I think it's an easy question for you and me, 777 00:36:51,960 --> 00:36:54,239 Speaker 2: but I don't think it's an easy answer for a 778 00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:55,319 Speaker 2: lot of other people out there. 779 00:36:56,600 --> 00:36:59,319 Speaker 3: A lot to discuss Petro's Did you know Petro's did 780 00:36:59,360 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 3: a great job. I know he's done a great job 781 00:37:00,800 --> 00:37:02,440 Speaker 3: at AM five point seventy on his show as well. 782 00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,320 Speaker 2: Do people want to see Indiana win the Rose Bowl 783 00:37:05,560 --> 00:37:08,880 Speaker 2: and go on to win a national championship. We'll discuss 784 00:37:08,960 --> 00:37:11,480 Speaker 2: that he's erin Torres. I'm Dan Byer. 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