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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Favorites, the podcast part of the Action Network.

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Speaker 1: We are presented by Bett three six five. We're continuing

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Speaker 1: the final division preview for our division preview series. We

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Speaker 1: are doing the NFC East today. We've had so many

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Speaker 1: fantastic guests on the Favorites podcast during the division preview series.

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Speaker 1: Rounding it out with another winner, a winner of a

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Speaker 1: guest who may or may not have done something to

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Speaker 1: Simon Hunter the last time he was on the show,

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Speaker 1: which some of our live listeners are referring to. I

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Speaker 1: can't remember what it is. He can't remember what it is.

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Speaker 1: Simon might remember what it is. But it's time to

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Speaker 1: bring in my bff, my companion, Mike cam Padre, my

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Speaker 1: co host, Professional Better Simon Hunter.

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Speaker 2: So I am in Hello Chat. It's a bittersweet day.

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Speaker 2: It is truly football season right around the corner. It's

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Speaker 2: my last day and MAUI coming back East for the

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Speaker 2: kickoff of the season. Got a feels like I got

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Speaker 2: like thirty fantasy football drafts and I got a lot

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Speaker 2: of work to do in the next two weeks before

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Speaker 2: we start the season. So I'm ready. I'm ready to

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Speaker 2: get some real football.

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Speaker 1: I feel like the season is is so close and

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Speaker 1: there that we are going through preseason right now with

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Speaker 1: these division previews, I also feel like, here's honest to god,

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Speaker 1: here's what I feel like. I feel like the Favorites

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Speaker 1: have so much stuff going on with the show right now.

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Speaker 1: Number one, remind everybody, we'll give you more details when

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Speaker 1: it comes. But we got a big, big, big money contest.

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Speaker 1: People are gonna be able to do their five best

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Speaker 1: each week against you and me. We are going to

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Speaker 1: be on Sunday nights when the season starts Tuesdays Thursdays

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Speaker 1: right now. By the way, reminder, you can watch us

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Speaker 1: it's making me a little nervous, and I'm feeling a

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Speaker 1: little bit of like anxiety on the part of everybody.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel it too? Uh No.

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Speaker 2: That's what separates me and Chad right there. I live

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Speaker 2: for this well. Chad gets a little a little nervous

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Speaker 2: about it. But now the pressure, Chad, it's real. That's

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Speaker 2: doesn't matter. You're already onto the next week. So I'm

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Speaker 2: looking forward to those days of tunnel work and you know,

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Speaker 2: winning a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: Well, listen our next guest for this division preview series.

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Speaker 1: He understands pressure at every level, at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: time to bring him on. Former NFL offensive lineman Ross

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Speaker 1: Tucker Yay, friend of the pod, host of the Ross

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Speaker 1: Ross Tucker Football Podcast, the Ross Tucker Podcast Network. Find

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Speaker 1: him at Ross Tucker NFL. He is so dedicated to

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Speaker 1: the NFC East. He has done preseason games for the

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Speaker 1: Eagles for the past six years. We're recording this on Thursday.

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Speaker 1: It's live right now for some people Tonight's Eagles preseason

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Speaker 1: game is a prime game, so Ross Tucker will not

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Speaker 1: be broadcasting it. He's still going to the game with

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Speaker 1: his family. Ross Tucker, you aren't dedicated. You've played at

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Speaker 1: the highest level, you have confronted pressure at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: You're now gonna confront it today on the Favorites podcast.

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Speaker 3: I love it.

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Speaker 4: Good to see you guys, Good to talk with you, guys.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 5: I got like five things to say just based off

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Speaker 5: the opening there. First of all, yes, it's true, I'm

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Speaker 5: not calling the game the night. It'll be Al Michaels

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Speaker 5: and Kirk Herbstreet big downgrade unfortunately for Eagles.

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Speaker 3: Phittnam.

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Speaker 5: I'm just kidding, No, disagree, just Al Michaels, no big deal.

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Speaker 2: That's gonna be a touchdown.

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Speaker 3: There's no extra point. But that made me meaningful to

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Speaker 3: some of you, and you know who I mean.

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Speaker 5: But no, it's funny because I'm actually gonna go to

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Speaker 5: the Jersey Shore with my family and we typically leave

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Speaker 5: on Thursdays. We're gonna be driving by the stadium while

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Speaker 5: you know what, I never get the tailgate. I never

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Speaker 5: get to take my wife and two daughters to a

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Speaker 5: being a broadcaster is I drive into the stadium three

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Speaker 5: hours for the game and I see all these people

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Speaker 5: smiling and having fun and drinking and eating, and I'm like,

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Speaker 5: all dressed up and I can't drink and I'm doing

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Speaker 5: the game. That's like the five minutes that I'm jealous

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Speaker 5: every week when I do a game, so very much.

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Speaker 3: Looking forward to.

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Speaker 5: Tailgate a little bit tonight, taking my daughters to the game,

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Speaker 5: Simon Hunter's Neck of the Woods, if you will down there,

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Speaker 5: and so that should be fun. And yes, I appreciate

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Speaker 5: you mentioning the podcast network.

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Speaker 3: We're growing. It's awesome.

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Speaker 5: You guys have both been multiple times, I believe, on

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Speaker 5: the Even Money podcast, the Betting podcast with Steve Isaac,

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Speaker 5: which does very well, and Simon for all those fantasy drafts,

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Speaker 5: make sure you're listening or watching the Fantasy Feast podcast.

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Speaker 5: Although Simon, you gotta tell me what did I do

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Speaker 5: last year that everybody keeps referencing because I don't remember it.

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Speaker 3: What did I do to you? I don't think it

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Speaker 2: I got a couple of people hit me up now

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Speaker 2: that are sending me clips because I honestly didn't really

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Speaker 2: know much either. The biggest thing that happened last year

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Speaker 2: was when I went on Ross's show as my Eagle

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Speaker 2: Phantom got a little little strong Chad.

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Speaker 1: Oh so it wasn't on our show, It was on

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Speaker 2: Yeah, it was the boys over at a Pro Football Focus.

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Speaker 2: They had a good time making fun of me because

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Speaker 2: I said the Eagles would have a top three D

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Speaker 2: but yeah, they got egg on their face line.

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Speaker 2: I definitely nailed that one. Took a lot of heat

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Speaker 2: there's always gonna be naysayers. I think Steve, who he

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Speaker 2: and not that Steve was making fun of me. He was

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Speaker 2: And you know, I'll just say this, Steve's been in

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Speaker 2: So that's part of the business. I mean, it's lucky

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Speaker 2: I give a lot a winner. So me and Ross

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Speaker 2: not got no beef. My My favorite line was my

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Speaker 2: uncle from England was watching the game last week with Ross.

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Speaker 2: He goes that Ross Tucker is a funny fuck? Is

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Speaker 2: that guy's a funny fuck. That's how England views Ross

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Speaker 4: Hey listen, I'll take it for you know, preseason game.

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Speaker 5: You're a unique animal, right, I mean it's a lot

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Speaker 5: of second and third string guys. You know, you're kind

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Speaker 5: of telling more stories than you are just breaking down

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Speaker 4: Got to try to keep it a little bit entertaining.

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Speaker 5: I'm surprised he likes me, Simon after what I said

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Speaker 5: have rights in Australia, New Zealand and Africa, so people

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Speaker 3: I was like amazed, and I mean this sincerely.

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Speaker 5: I mean a little bit tongue in cheek, but I

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Speaker 5: love that we're growing the game internationally because think about

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Speaker 5: how many children all around the world think that soccer

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Speaker 5: is the best sport. I mean, Chad, can we please

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Speaker 5: I just know this show me someone that played soccer

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Speaker 3: I really like soccer.

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Speaker 5: Then I put a helmet and shoulder pads on and

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Speaker 5: Like like scoring a goal is cool, running into somebody

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Speaker 4: That that's way, way better than anything you can do

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Speaker 1: I love.

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Speaker 4: Here's what I love Ross.

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Speaker 1: Before we get on the air, It's like, guys, I

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Speaker 1: we get to the REDDA please? Please? Can we get

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Speaker 1: to the betting, because honestly, the NFC East, We've got it.

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Speaker 1: We've got some really cool stats that Evan Abrams are

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Speaker 1: the tightest division race. The division races this year are

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Speaker 1: tighter than they've ever been. No division favorite, including the

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Speaker 1: Nine of the last ten Super Bowl champions began the

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Speaker 1: for teams. We have a team in the Cowboys that

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Speaker 1: five defensive line with Chase Young coming back. So we're

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Speaker 1: I want to start with the Eagles. Eleven and a

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Speaker 1: minus one twenty ross. I want to start with you.

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Speaker 1: You are in Philly, you are covering the Eagles. You

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Speaker 5: Well, they're a really interesting team because they lost seven

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Speaker 4: They've got some guys that are gonna work in there.

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Speaker 5: They don't prioritize those positions, right. Their d line is

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Speaker 5: Surprised that linebackers are as good as Kaysier White and

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Speaker 5: The other thing that people I think are missing out

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Speaker 5: Sayamlo is better than people getting credit for. I do

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Speaker 5: There's not a long track record of success. Check Chad

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Speaker 5: to lose some guys this year. It's a matter of

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Speaker 5: or eleven. But I think that's the right number. I

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Speaker 1: Well, I like the price over is plus one hundred.

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Speaker 1: Brandon Anderson, who I mentioned in previous podcasts as a

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Speaker 1: looking at ranking teams offensively ranking their offensive line. Ross,

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Speaker 1: You'll be glad to know that when Brandon ranks the

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Speaker 1: Ross likes the over eleven and a half.

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Speaker 2: Tell me what you think, Yeah, And it's just we

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Speaker 2: it's always usually because they have a harder scheduled upcoming season. Right,

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Speaker 2: They're not this team that sneaks up on people, and

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Speaker 2: a lot of stuff goes into having such a good

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Speaker 2: of the past season doesn't repeat. It's just the way

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Speaker 2: it is divisions. It's just such a competitive vision that

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Speaker 2: I mean the Eagles, the Cowboys, the Giants, all these

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Speaker 2: I would say Eagles fans have never been more cocky,

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Speaker 2: it's all because how he's just been nailing these drafts.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I don't think I go a day without

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Speaker 2: So it's been interesting where the Eagles have lost starters

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Speaker 2: That's where you can really go cheap and find serviceable talent.

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Speaker 2: So that's what how he's doing, right. He's we talk

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Speaker 2: about year, you really built out the team through the

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Speaker 2: Our whole plan last year was Firtz takes that next step,

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Speaker 2: can't do it with this Eagles team. Like I do

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Speaker 2: this is where you want to bet the Cowboys, Like

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Speaker 2: that's a good number on the Cowboys team, that they're

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Speaker 2: The season ends and people's last images of Dak Prescott

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Speaker 2: I get where they're coming from that they don't believe

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Speaker 2: to me, this Eagles team, I will take a small

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Speaker 2: So that half game bump makes sense because that's the

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Speaker 2: this Eagles team with Hurts. I mean, this guy is

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Speaker 2: still mentally tough. We all know all the quotes, everything

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Speaker 2: I'm gonna fade the Eagles, I mean, that's just what

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Speaker 2: I mean, this kid across the board does it all right.

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Speaker 2: I Mean he got paid that big contract, he went

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Speaker 2: as an ego, I'm really excited and as a better

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Speaker 2: I'm excited to fade this team. I mean week one,

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Speaker 2: So it's just a team that they'll be inflated I

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Speaker 1: So the Cowboys are now at plus one eighty. And

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Speaker 1: it is interesting to me. We preach on this show

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Speaker 1: It's seven Sachs last year on defense, and they added

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Speaker 1: this year, Howie Roseman, because it's the best, most obvious

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Speaker 1: Because he does it every year with his draft picks.

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Speaker 1: And Jalen Carter was another Howie Roseman special. And like you, Simon,

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Speaker 2: I just think it's just the way the public works,

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Speaker 2: How could you have not been disappointed in them? I mean,

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Speaker 2: Like they have one of the best defenses in football.

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Speaker 2: have to pay a lot of guys. So to me,

434
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Speaker 2: this is one of those years we want to bet

435
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Speaker 2: them right, they're gonna be a team that you know,

436
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Speaker 2: they just brought back Zach Martin, which was a really

437
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Speaker 2: smart move by Jerry, Like that was you know, his

438
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Speaker 2: ego is getting the way there him now realizing this

439
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Speaker 2: guy is by far the best at his position. I mean,

440
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Speaker 2: he really is that good and he's a game changer

441
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Speaker 2: for this team. So if he didn't come back, I

442
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Speaker 2: was honestly tempted to fade the Cowboys because I thought

443
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Speaker 2: that had been that big of a deal losing that key,

444
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Speaker 2: that key piece on their offensive line. Now that he's back,

445
00:23:45,200 --> 00:23:47,600
Speaker 2: that's gonna make up for the week. Whatever position they

446
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Speaker 2: are this year on all offense. You know that I

447
00:23:50,280 --> 00:23:52,359
Speaker 2: do have questions about their tackles, but overall, I think

448
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:54,199
Speaker 2: their offensive line is gonna be really good. And then

449
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Speaker 2: we already know how dominant their d lin is gonna be.

450
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Speaker 2: So to me, you know, I know that difference between

451
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Speaker 2: them the Eagles is only like two or three games, right,

452
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Speaker 2: because Eagles got first place. They both had pretty tough

453
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Speaker 2: schedules somehow statistically if you look on paper, the schedule

454
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Speaker 2: breaks a little easier for the Eagles. But this Cowboys team,

455
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Speaker 2: I think that they will be the team at the

456
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Speaker 2: end of the year that will win this division. So

457
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Speaker 2: the nine and a half is really juiced up. I

458
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Speaker 2: think it's at like minus two seventy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, minus nine and a half if you can, I.

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Speaker 2: Just try to find a ten or at ten and

461
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Speaker 2: a half, like, I'd rather take that with less juice

462
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Speaker 2: because I could easily see this team getting eleven, eleven

463
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Speaker 2: or twelve wins. I mean, Dak got hurt and they

464
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Speaker 2: won four out of five with Cooper Rush like it's

465
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Speaker 2: it's all built there for them. So I don't think

466
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Speaker 2: he'll be hurt like he was last year. Deck, I

467
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Speaker 2: don't think he'll have that many turnovers he had last year.

468
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Speaker 2: He actually led the league interceptions even though he missed

469
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Speaker 2: all those games.

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Speaker 3: Jets.

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Speaker 2: So to me, this team, you know, they were a

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Speaker 2: game or two back of the Eagles to win this

473
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Speaker 2: division last year, and I just don't see the Eagles

474
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Speaker 2: getting in the many breaks they had last year's so

475
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Speaker 2: I think their price is really nice now in the Cowboys,

476
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Speaker 2: and I think that's where the value is for this division.

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Speaker 2: It's just the difference in them and the Eagles is very,

478
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Speaker 2: very small, but it's not what the public perceives or

479
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Speaker 2: public is making this plus one hundred difference when it's

480
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Speaker 2: really not that big of a delta. So if you

481
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Speaker 2: want to take the value in this division's definitely to

482
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Speaker 2: this Cowboys team.

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Speaker 1: What's interesting about the Cowboys and Ross I want you

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Speaker 1: to speak to this is according to Sean Kerner, the

485
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Speaker 1: Eagles have the easiest schedule in the NFL. The Cowboys

486
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Speaker 1: have the third easiest. The NFC East overall has their

487
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Speaker 1: four teams collection of the easiest schedule in the NFL. Again,

488
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Speaker 1: Kerner is updating this constantly, so this is dynamic based

489
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Speaker 1: on rosters, based on when you were playing a team

490
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Speaker 1: and who their quarterback is going to be. It's not

491
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Speaker 1: sort of a set it and forget it from either

492
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Speaker 1: last year's performance for a team and their opponents, or

493
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Speaker 1: even projected win totals. He is building this in real

494
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Speaker 1: time here's what Brandon Anderson said about the offensive line,

495
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Speaker 1: and Simon, he agrees with you about Zach Martin. Dallas

496
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Speaker 1: is easily top five, and Ross, I want you to

497
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Speaker 1: speak to this because it's personally based on your analysis.

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Speaker 1: Dallas has Super Bowl upside if their five top offensive

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Speaker 1: linemen are healthy in December and January. Your take, Ross Tucker.

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Speaker 5: Well, so that probably goes for the whole Cowboys roster,

501
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Speaker 5: but certainly the offensive line. I mean, Tyron Smith, Tyler Smith,

502
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Speaker 5: be Oddish, Zach Martin, Terrence Steele, that's pretty impressive. The

503
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Speaker 5: problem is Zach's getting up there in years, Tyron Smith

504
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Speaker 5: gets hurt every year, and Terren Steele's coming off a major,

505
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Speaker 5: major injury. And you look at their backups and these

506
00:26:54,400 --> 00:26:58,960
Speaker 5: guys have like never played. I mean, it's very interesting

507
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Speaker 5: to me how different the Cowboys and Eagles go about

508
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Speaker 5: certain things. Like the Eagles would never let it be

509
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Speaker 5: the case that they would have no backups with really

510
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Speaker 5: experience that, because they know that that can sink your

511
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Speaker 5: whole season. That's why they'll always have Jack Driscoll and

512
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Speaker 5: they'll always bring in these other guys, Dennis Kelly, Josh

513
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Speaker 5: Andrews just to make sure that the backups they do

514
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Speaker 5: have are good enough. But for sure the Cowboys should

515
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Speaker 5: have a top five offensive line when those guys are healthy.

516
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Speaker 5: I think they have a top five roster. I'm very

517
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Speaker 5: high on the Cowboys roster this year. Their biggest holes

518
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Speaker 5: last year were probably number two wide receiver and number

519
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Speaker 5: two corner to go out and get Brandon Cooks, who

520
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Speaker 5: was a number one the year before in Houston, and

521
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Speaker 5: Stefan Gilmour, a number one the year before in Indy.

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Speaker 4: Now, those guys might not be what they used to be.

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Speaker 5: They might not be high end ones anymore, but they're

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Speaker 5: definitely high end twos, you know, as being the second

525
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Speaker 5: guy with Gilmore and Coach. I thought those were great

526
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Speaker 5: trades by the Cowboys. They're not even paying them that much.

527
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Speaker 5: Their prior team took on a bunch of their salary.

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Speaker 5: Fantastic trades and as a results, one of the reasons

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Speaker 5: I like the Cowboys over. You know, my biggest concern

530
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Speaker 5: with the Cowboys they ran killen More out of town,

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Speaker 5: and I just don't understand it. Over the last four years, okay,

532
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Speaker 5: Cowboys are second in the NFL in yards and points,

533
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Speaker 5: second behind only the Chiefs, and Simon mentioned this, think

534
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Speaker 5: about many games.

535
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Speaker 4: Andy Dalton, Cooper Rush Ben Denucci.

536
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Speaker 5: Started right, and they're still fourth in yards and points.

537
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Speaker 4: Yet they get Kellen Moore out of town, so.

538
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Speaker 5: That Mike McCarthy says, I want to run the ball

539
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Speaker 5: so I can rest my defense.

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Speaker 3: You sure about that? Sure about good luck? Cowboys?

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Speaker 5: I really do think the two things that can prevent

542
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Speaker 5: the Cowboys from making a run in the postseason.

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Speaker 3: I think it's Mike McCarthy and I think it's.

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Speaker 5: Injuries because they just lack depth, especially on the offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Well, look, isn't that amazing about Mike McCarthy. You go

546
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Speaker 1: back to Green Bay and it was the same questions,

547
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:31,680
Speaker 1: like people would bet against Mike McCarthy being able to

548
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Speaker 1: do the right thing. And then we've seen it in

549
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Speaker 1: the past few years in Dallas, consistently making the wrong

550
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Speaker 1: coaching decisions at the end of games. And so I

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Speaker 1: would fully anticipate and everything you guys are saying about

552
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys is true. This roster, if they are healthy,

553
00:29:47,960 --> 00:29:51,960
Speaker 1: is amazing. And Simon completely agree. Tony Pollard getting the

554
00:29:53,160 --> 00:29:57,400
Speaker 1: majority of carries and not having Zeke Elliott is a benefit.

555
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Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks is fantastic. It's like everywhere he goes, he produces.

556
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Speaker 1: He takes pressure off the number one because he's still

557
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Speaker 1: so freaking fast. They have an incredible defense. They have

558
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Speaker 1: so many playmakers on defense. This will be a dynamic

559
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Speaker 1: kind of you know, old school Cowboys, get up the

560
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Speaker 1: field fast defense. Love this tip, love everything about it.

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Speaker 1: Totally gonna look for an over ten and a half

562
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Speaker 1: autline to get a much smaller price. And then in

563
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Speaker 1: the playoffs, in the first round, they're going to lose

564
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Speaker 1: because Mike McCarthy is going to make bad decisions. That's

565
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Speaker 1: just what's gonna happen.

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Speaker 2: It's just the way it is.

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Speaker 1: But you know what I'm looking forward to. I'm looking

568
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Speaker 1: forward to in the first six weeks of the season

569
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Speaker 1: the Cowboys and the Eagles both play the Jets. I'm

570
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Speaker 1: looking forward to the Cowboys and the Eagles both beating

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Speaker 1: the Jets so we can continue to preach fading the

572
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Speaker 1: j e Ts Jets, Jets, Jets. But you know what,

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Speaker 1: I'm in the New York area and at some point

574
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Speaker 1: this year I might want to get tickets to a

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Speaker 1: Jets game, And when I do, I'm going to open

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Speaker 1: the game Time app. You guys have heard me talk

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Speaker 1: move on from the Eagles and the Cowboys, the Eagles,

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Speaker 1: according to Pro Football Focus, number one defensive line in

596
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Speaker 1: the NFL. Look, they've added Jalen Carter. We've been talking

597
00:32:06,600 --> 00:32:10,640
Speaker 1: about that. This is a great line from the PFF

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Speaker 1: write up. There is a case to be made that

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Speaker 1: Philadelphia's second string defensive line would also rank in the

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Speaker 1: top twenty on this list. The Cowboys defensive line also fantastic.

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Speaker 1: The Giants defensive line, it's the next team that I

602
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Speaker 1: want to talk about. No player. They've got the ninth

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Speaker 1: ranked defensive line according to Pro Football Focalist Focus, no

604
00:32:36,920 --> 00:32:42,680
Speaker 1: player improved as much as interior defender Dexter Lawrence did

605
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Speaker 1: in twenty twenty two, ending the campaign as the second

606
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Speaker 1: highest graded player at his position. Dexter Lawrence Leonard Williams

607
00:32:53,480 --> 00:32:58,080
Speaker 1: both had great, great years last year. The Giants their

608
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Speaker 1: plus seven hundred you win the division. Their season win

609
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Speaker 1: total is seven and a half. The over is plus

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Speaker 1: one hundred ross. You know this division very well. What

611
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Speaker 1: do you feel like we're saying about the New York

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Speaker 1: Football Giants?

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Speaker 5: Now, I hate this because, as we talk about all

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Speaker 5: the time on the even Money podcast, usually the value

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Speaker 5: is in the unders, and you know, you should look

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Speaker 5: to unders because if you add them all up, it's

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Speaker 5: actually you know, the values in the unders.

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Speaker 3: Totally get that.

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Speaker 5: But seven and a half, seven and a half for

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Speaker 5: the Giants, that's stunning to me, It really is. I mean,

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Speaker 5: I just think that they are much more likely. I

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Speaker 5: always look at it right. I think they're much more

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Speaker 5: likely to win eight or nine games than they are

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Speaker 5: six or seven.

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Speaker 3: I just do.

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Speaker 5: I don't think they're going to be a great team,

627
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Speaker 5: but I have a tough time picturing Daniel Jones being

628
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Speaker 5: worse in year two under Brian, and he actually started

629
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Speaker 5: to play really well in the second half of the

630
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Speaker 5: year last year. I had their right guard Mark Lewinsky

631
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Speaker 5: on the Ross Tucker Football podcast recently and he said

632
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Speaker 5: that he felt like Daniel Jones earlier in the year

633
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Speaker 5: was like trying to be perfect, and you know, he

634
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Speaker 5: had the contract thing and the new coach, and second

635
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Speaker 5: half of the year, Daniel he just kept telling it,

636
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Speaker 5: just have fun, man, just have fun. And Daniel Jones

637
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Speaker 5: played like a guy that was having fun in the

638
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Speaker 5: second half.

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Speaker 3: Of the year.

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Speaker 5: I think Darren Waller will be significant. It's not a

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Speaker 5: great team. They might not make the playoffs. I know

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Speaker 5: they won their fair share of close games last year,

643
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Speaker 5: but they also won a road playoff game in Minnesota.

644
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Speaker 5: They deserve some credit for that. I once again liked

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Speaker 5: the over for the Giants. I have them winning eight

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Speaker 5: or nine games to get over.

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Speaker 1: I feel like this really comes down to You could

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Speaker 1: talk about Daniel Jones, you can talk about Saquon Barkley,

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Speaker 1: you can talk about Darrel Waller, you can talk about

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Speaker 1: an improving defensive line. Their offensive line is pretty dreadful.

651
00:35:04,560 --> 00:35:08,000
Speaker 1: At the end of the day, this comes down to

652
00:35:08,080 --> 00:35:10,120
Speaker 1: Brian Dabo, Right, he was the Coach of the Year

653
00:35:10,239 --> 00:35:13,240
Speaker 1: last year, and the Giants won so many close games.

654
00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:17,440
Speaker 1: You could argue not necessarily because of luck, which obviously

655
00:35:17,480 --> 00:35:20,120
Speaker 1: has a big big part in it, but because Brian

656
00:35:20,160 --> 00:35:23,160
Speaker 1: Dabel put them in a position to win close games

657
00:35:23,160 --> 00:35:28,160
Speaker 1: that he was a difference maker on the sideline. Simon,

658
00:35:28,200 --> 00:35:31,560
Speaker 1: do we feel like that is something that is a

659
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:37,719
Speaker 1: tangible factor that comes into play when we're determining the

660
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:42,839
Speaker 1: Giants value? Or is there automatic regression No matter how

661
00:35:42,880 --> 00:35:44,000
Speaker 1: good of a coach you are.

662
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:46,840
Speaker 2: I would say, ze On Mack regression when you just

663
00:35:46,880 --> 00:35:49,279
Speaker 2: don't have the talent there where in your first year

664
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:50,799
Speaker 2: as a coach, you can sneak up on people because

665
00:35:50,840 --> 00:35:52,800
Speaker 2: not a lot of people know what your your team's

666
00:35:52,800 --> 00:35:54,239
Speaker 2: gonna be running, right, They didn't know what kind of

667
00:35:54,280 --> 00:35:56,319
Speaker 2: offensive team is going to run. I mean, no one

668
00:35:56,480 --> 00:35:58,560
Speaker 2: saw how much running Daniel Jones is going to do

669
00:35:58,680 --> 00:36:01,840
Speaker 2: last year, right, that was a big thing Brian took

670
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,880
Speaker 2: advantage of. Was was Daniel Jones's legs and getting him

671
00:36:04,880 --> 00:36:06,960
Speaker 2: out of trouble. And if you go back and watch

672
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 2: even on a lot of his passes, it was him

673
00:36:09,160 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 2: getting outside the pocket, right, it was just one of

674
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,640
Speaker 2: those where he'd have two reads and if those reads

675
00:36:13,640 --> 00:36:16,240
Speaker 2: weren't there, take off. I mean, he was a great athlete.

676
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:20,480
Speaker 2: He showed that last year. So you know, looking at

677
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,320
Speaker 2: this team, the professionals have already taken that position. I

678
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 2: mean when I gave out the Giants win total was

679
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,520
Speaker 2: eight and a half and it was minus one ten.

680
00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:29,520
Speaker 2: Now it's only down to seven and a half and

681
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:33,000
Speaker 2: it's at plus one hundred. So clearly the purers have

682
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,480
Speaker 2: taken a position on this team where we just expect

683
00:36:35,480 --> 00:36:38,040
Speaker 2: regression because they just don't have the talent, like they

684
00:36:38,040 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 2: do have something building there. I mean, if you're a

685
00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,160
Speaker 2: Giants fan, how are you not excited about last year?

686
00:36:43,239 --> 00:36:43,399
Speaker 3: Right?

687
00:36:43,800 --> 00:36:46,960
Speaker 2: Daniel Jones? You guys didn't give him his fifth year option, Like,

688
00:36:47,000 --> 00:36:49,279
Speaker 2: not only did the fans give up on him, the

689
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:51,680
Speaker 2: organization gave up on him, and then he proved to

690
00:36:51,719 --> 00:36:54,000
Speaker 2: them that he can be that guy. Right, he got

691
00:36:54,000 --> 00:36:56,239
Speaker 2: them to the playoffs last year. They gave him a

692
00:36:56,320 --> 00:36:59,640
Speaker 2: nice contract. Now they got to really build this thing

693
00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:02,640
Speaker 2: out out. What's what's Daniel Jones's strength and how do

694
00:37:02,680 --> 00:37:05,080
Speaker 2: we build a team around those strengths. So to me,

695
00:37:05,239 --> 00:37:07,960
Speaker 2: we just we expect regression just because last year was

696
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,120
Speaker 2: such a such a shocking season. I mean the greatest

697
00:37:11,160 --> 00:37:13,279
Speaker 2: example of this team was that Ravens game. They were

698
00:37:13,320 --> 00:37:16,960
Speaker 2: down ten in the fourth quarter and they never lost faith.

699
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:19,080
Speaker 2: I mean, I know they got lucky there. Lamar turned

700
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:20,719
Speaker 2: it over twice and that's how they were able to

701
00:37:20,719 --> 00:37:23,520
Speaker 2: win that game. But still Daniel Jones led those drives

702
00:37:23,560 --> 00:37:25,880
Speaker 2: down the field for those both those touchdowns for them

703
00:37:25,920 --> 00:37:28,279
Speaker 2: to win that game in those final minutes. So it's

704
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,279
Speaker 2: one of those where, yeah, Chad, we we ran our

705
00:37:31,320 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 2: luck rankings all season them in the Vikis were one

706
00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:36,560
Speaker 2: and two the luckiest teams. So just right there, we

707
00:37:36,600 --> 00:37:39,400
Speaker 2: expect them to be regressing in the fact that they

708
00:37:39,400 --> 00:37:41,799
Speaker 2: got so lucky in so many one possession games last year.

709
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,920
Speaker 2: So you know, I won't give out the under seven

710
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 2: and a half just because I have an eight. I

711
00:37:46,520 --> 00:37:47,560
Speaker 2: have a bunch of eight and a half. So I

712
00:37:47,560 --> 00:37:49,279
Speaker 2: just don't think there's any value there taking the seven

713
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:51,359
Speaker 2: and a half because they gross set it like they're

714
00:37:51,400 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 2: a team that seven, eight, nine wins. That's exactly where

715
00:37:55,160 --> 00:37:56,799
Speaker 2: most of us have them right. They're right in that

716
00:37:56,880 --> 00:37:59,680
Speaker 2: area of they're gonna steal some games. They're just a

717
00:37:59,719 --> 00:38:01,879
Speaker 2: team that's gonna be gritty, They're gonna they're gonna never

718
00:38:02,000 --> 00:38:03,560
Speaker 2: really give up, and they.

719
00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:04,160
Speaker 3: Have great coaching.

720
00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:06,120
Speaker 2: So it's always tough to fade those teams. You always

721
00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:07,440
Speaker 2: want the best of them are when you do, so

722
00:38:08,640 --> 00:38:11,480
Speaker 2: I hate not taking aside, but I wouldn't take an

723
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:13,000
Speaker 2: over under on this one. If you already missed eight

724
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:14,879
Speaker 2: and a half, there's just no value on this line

725
00:38:14,920 --> 00:38:15,480
Speaker 2: for you to take.

726
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:19,720
Speaker 1: Isn't it an interesting though, that we're having a hard

727
00:38:19,800 --> 00:38:24,680
Speaker 1: time giving up on the Giants just because of Brian Dabo.

728
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,520
Speaker 1: Like for some reason, he what he did last year,

729
00:38:28,120 --> 00:38:32,920
Speaker 1: everybody believed that he was he was really really good

730
00:38:32,960 --> 00:38:35,319
Speaker 1: at this job, do you know what I mean? And

731
00:38:35,320 --> 00:38:37,759
Speaker 1: I think also we saw some of it, like the

732
00:38:37,800 --> 00:38:39,920
Speaker 1: way the Bills regressed a little bit. Part of it

733
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,080
Speaker 1: was because Josh Allen's injury, but also Brian dabol was

734
00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:47,040
Speaker 1: so good at managing that Bill's offense with Josh Allen.

735
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:50,760
Speaker 1: And it's interesting because the Vikings were just as lucky

736
00:38:50,840 --> 00:38:53,840
Speaker 1: last year with so many one score wins. Nobody is

737
00:38:53,880 --> 00:38:56,320
Speaker 1: looking at the Vikings and saying, oh yeah, Kevin O'Connell

738
00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:00,120
Speaker 1: coached them to those one score wins. Everyone's looking to

739
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:02,600
Speaker 1: the Giants and saying, oh yeah, Brian Dabill coach them

740
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 1: to those one score wins. And that's why we're having

741
00:39:04,640 --> 00:39:07,320
Speaker 1: a harder time pulling the trigger on thinking this is

742
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:10,279
Speaker 1: a team that could create based on their talent, which

743
00:39:10,320 --> 00:39:12,279
Speaker 1: is fascinating to me. Why don't we Why don't we

744
00:39:12,280 --> 00:39:16,600
Speaker 1: say that about Kevin O'Connell.

745
00:39:16,080 --> 00:39:18,000
Speaker 2: A few different reasons. If you go back and watch

746
00:39:18,000 --> 00:39:20,759
Speaker 2: how they won, it's just a big difference. Like a

747
00:39:20,840 --> 00:39:23,360
Speaker 2: lot of stuff that happened last year, the Vikings honestly

748
00:39:23,440 --> 00:39:25,640
Speaker 2: was on Kirk. Kirk was the only making those big

749
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:29,520
Speaker 2: plays where I don't think it was all Daniel Jones

750
00:39:29,520 --> 00:39:31,359
Speaker 2: for this Giants team. It was really it was really

751
00:39:31,440 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 2: based on the offense where Kirk was. I could think

752
00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:36,520
Speaker 2: of three wins off the top of my head where

753
00:39:36,520 --> 00:39:39,400
Speaker 2: it was just like where's Jefferson. Let me close my

754
00:39:39,440 --> 00:39:41,520
Speaker 2: eyes and throw it downfield to him, and it worked

755
00:39:41,560 --> 00:39:43,920
Speaker 2: out for almost every time. So that's definitely one of

756
00:39:43,920 --> 00:39:45,760
Speaker 2: those main differences.

757
00:39:45,920 --> 00:39:46,359
Speaker 4: All Right.

758
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:49,680
Speaker 1: The last team we want to talk about the Washington

759
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:53,320
Speaker 1: Commanders new ownership. Sam Howell is going to be starting

760
00:39:53,360 --> 00:39:56,480
Speaker 1: QB Riverboat Ron, deciding to go with the second year

761
00:39:56,480 --> 00:39:59,640
Speaker 1: player from North Carolina. The over is at six and

762
00:39:59,719 --> 00:40:01,960
Speaker 1: a half plus one hundred. The under is minus one

763
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:06,160
Speaker 1: twenty five. They are plus twelve hundred to win the division.

764
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:09,440
Speaker 1: Is this the team Ross Tucker with one of the

765
00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:13,440
Speaker 1: best defensive lines in the NFL? Is this the team

766
00:40:14,040 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: that will continue the trend that eighteen of the past

767
00:40:17,280 --> 00:40:19,880
Speaker 1: twenty years the team has gone from worse to first

768
00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: in their division.

769
00:40:22,200 --> 00:40:23,160
Speaker 3: Absolutely not.

770
00:40:24,280 --> 00:40:28,040
Speaker 5: There is no way in hell the Commanders are winning.

771
00:40:27,840 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 3: The NFC East.

772
00:40:29,760 --> 00:40:33,600
Speaker 5: Cut the audio, cut the video. If the Commanders win

773
00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,800
Speaker 5: the NFC East, I don't even.

774
00:40:35,719 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: Know what I'll do.

775
00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:38,279
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna say something on the show. I'll think

776
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:40,640
Speaker 5: about it, but I'll do something crazy.

777
00:40:41,239 --> 00:40:43,439
Speaker 3: Listen, they gave me a.

778
00:40:43,440 --> 00:40:47,520
Speaker 5: Little bit of pause with how they looked against Baltimore

779
00:40:47,560 --> 00:40:50,080
Speaker 5: the other night, and Sam Howe has looked good in

780
00:40:50,120 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 5: the preseason, and that's great. I like when there's more

781
00:40:53,040 --> 00:40:54,719
Speaker 5: good young quarterbacks, I really do.

782
00:40:54,800 --> 00:40:56,160
Speaker 3: And I'm glad they have a new owner.

783
00:40:56,640 --> 00:41:01,000
Speaker 5: Daniel Snyder was just an absolute train wreck and a travesty.

784
00:41:01,640 --> 00:41:05,400
Speaker 5: But they have a bottom five offensive line in the

785
00:41:05,520 --> 00:41:11,040
Speaker 5: NFL and they have a quarterback that started one game.

786
00:41:12,000 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 5: Let me just tell you, guys, you know those NFL

787
00:41:14,160 --> 00:41:17,080
Speaker 5: films videos at the end of the year, when you

788
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:20,600
Speaker 5: watched like the Year in Review, the super Bowl video.

789
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:22,720
Speaker 4: That's not how the video starts.

790
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:26,000
Speaker 5: The video doesn't start with a quarterback with the one

791
00:41:26,040 --> 00:41:28,040
Speaker 5: start and a bottom five offensive line.

792
00:41:28,520 --> 00:41:33,120
Speaker 3: It's not happening. I think it's amazing that Riverboat ron.

793
00:41:33,200 --> 00:41:36,040
Speaker 3: I mean you're talking about Riverboat. You know, new owner.

794
00:41:36,120 --> 00:41:38,160
Speaker 5: He knows this is make or break year for him

795
00:41:38,160 --> 00:41:40,520
Speaker 5: and he's going with Sam Howe. How about Eric the

796
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 5: Enemy He left a cushy job in Kansas City to come,

797
00:41:45,320 --> 00:41:47,920
Speaker 5: you know, with the Commanders, with the lame duck coach,

798
00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:52,040
Speaker 5: a quarterback with one start and a bottom five o line.

799
00:41:53,120 --> 00:41:55,680
Speaker 5: I mean, they're big free agent additions. Where Nick Gates

800
00:41:55,680 --> 00:42:00,879
Speaker 5: and Andrew Wiley. I like both those guys because they're

801
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:01,920
Speaker 5: not overly talented.

802
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:02,839
Speaker 3: They kind of remind me.

803
00:42:02,800 --> 00:42:05,280
Speaker 5: Of myself, and I'm proud of them forgetting the money

804
00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:07,840
Speaker 5: that they're getting even though they're not that talented.

805
00:42:07,880 --> 00:42:10,680
Speaker 3: But it's kind of a problem that they're not that talented.

806
00:42:11,120 --> 00:42:15,520
Speaker 5: I think, to me, you know, I think they'd probably

807
00:42:15,560 --> 00:42:17,680
Speaker 5: be lucky to get to seven or eight wins, although

808
00:42:17,719 --> 00:42:21,880
Speaker 5: it feels like that's what Rivera coaches to Rivera is

809
00:42:21,920 --> 00:42:25,040
Speaker 5: like that guy. Now to me that it's like if

810
00:42:25,080 --> 00:42:28,440
Speaker 5: you want, like, if you want seven, eight or nine wins,

811
00:42:28,920 --> 00:42:33,440
Speaker 5: get Ron Rivera. If you want twelve, thirteen, fourteen wins,

812
00:42:34,120 --> 00:42:39,000
Speaker 5: don't get Ron Rivera. I think he's a coach that can.

813
00:42:39,360 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 5: It's almost like he's more comfortable exceeding expectations. Still don't

814
00:42:43,640 --> 00:42:45,920
Speaker 5: understand why he didn't play Sam Hallimore last year. That

815
00:42:46,000 --> 00:42:48,719
Speaker 5: made no sense, and it really didn't make sense when

816
00:42:48,719 --> 00:42:51,600
Speaker 5: he put Wentz back in against Cleveland. That was horrendous

817
00:42:52,239 --> 00:42:54,640
Speaker 5: And I don't like that. Terry McLaurin already has turf toe.

818
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,440
Speaker 5: It's a bad injury for a wide receiver. I had

819
00:42:57,480 --> 00:43:01,160
Speaker 5: turf dow. That's an annoying injury, worse for a receiver

820
00:43:01,200 --> 00:43:04,759
Speaker 5: than it is for o lineman like me. I think

821
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 5: the six and a half number is right. You know,

822
00:43:09,160 --> 00:43:12,600
Speaker 5: how played well enough that it gives me pause to

823
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:14,240
Speaker 5: tell people to take the under.

824
00:43:14,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 3: But I'm not taking the over either.

825
00:43:16,920 --> 00:43:19,560
Speaker 5: I mean, I think they'll probably get the seven wins,

826
00:43:20,239 --> 00:43:23,799
Speaker 5: maybe even eight, and probably more likely that they do

827
00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:25,160
Speaker 5: that than five or six.

828
00:43:25,320 --> 00:43:28,520
Speaker 3: But that number feels like the right number to me

829
00:43:28,640 --> 00:43:29,800
Speaker 3: right now. For Washington.

830
00:43:30,320 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 5: You don't want to go into a season with question

831
00:43:32,080 --> 00:43:34,080
Speaker 5: marks along the offensive line and a quarterback.

832
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:37,520
Speaker 1: All right, ross listen, well, Simon is giving his answer.

833
00:43:38,200 --> 00:43:40,759
Speaker 1: I'm going to vamp for a second. You have the

834
00:43:40,840 --> 00:43:45,120
Speaker 1: opportunity right now to think what is my favorite bet

835
00:43:45,840 --> 00:43:48,839
Speaker 1: in the division? You can choose an over, you can

836
00:43:48,920 --> 00:43:53,880
Speaker 1: choose an under, you can choose a division future. But

837
00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,319
Speaker 1: I feel like you haven't committed yet to a best bet.

838
00:43:57,360 --> 00:44:00,319
Speaker 1: Simon has kind of committed to a best bet. I

839
00:44:00,320 --> 00:44:03,560
Speaker 1: would put him into a Cowboys camp at plus one

840
00:44:03,680 --> 00:44:05,960
Speaker 1: eighty unless he's going to come up with something bigger.

841
00:44:06,600 --> 00:44:11,600
Speaker 1: But to your point about the Commander's offensive line, both

842
00:44:11,640 --> 00:44:16,000
Speaker 1: of their veteran guards are gone, both tackles are leftover.

843
00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:16,480
Speaker 5: Is that the.

844
00:44:16,400 --> 00:44:20,520
Speaker 1: Bears and the Chiefs did not want. They've got four

845
00:44:20,600 --> 00:44:24,120
Speaker 1: new starters. This offensive line is in trouble to protect

846
00:44:24,160 --> 00:44:28,080
Speaker 1: a quarterback who has started one game? Simon, where are

847
00:44:28,080 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 1: we on the Commanders?

848
00:44:29,960 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 2: Unbelievable child. The only team I hate in the NFL

849
00:44:32,239 --> 00:44:34,640
Speaker 2: are the Cowboys. I spoke nicely about them for about

850
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 2: ten minutes, and you said, I kind of and then

851
00:44:37,000 --> 00:44:40,680
Speaker 2: on the Cowboys. Now I'm coming on the Cowboys.

852
00:44:41,080 --> 00:44:46,080
Speaker 1: Let me say something. You're nicely about the Cowboys to me,

853
00:44:46,520 --> 00:44:50,879
Speaker 1: I know I sent an underlying animosity. So the fact

854
00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:52,920
Speaker 1: that you went to Cowboys plus waey and eighty to

855
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: me is a miracle. I just wanted to give you

856
00:44:56,000 --> 00:44:58,919
Speaker 1: the out to come do something better. If like there's

857
00:44:58,960 --> 00:45:01,319
Speaker 1: something about the Commanders you're like, oh no, my best

858
00:45:01,320 --> 00:45:04,200
Speaker 1: bet is definitely going to be under six and a half.

859
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:06,400
Speaker 2: No, that's as big as I can get. If I

860
00:45:06,640 --> 00:45:09,320
Speaker 2: say something that nice as that's as much as I

861
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:13,400
Speaker 2: can do about the Cowboys. Washington. It kind of feels

862
00:45:13,400 --> 00:45:15,239
Speaker 2: like the same beat with the Giants, where it's like

863
00:45:17,120 --> 00:45:19,839
Speaker 2: this ain't it, but it's way better than it's been

864
00:45:19,880 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 2: the last ten to fifteen years.

865
00:45:21,320 --> 00:45:21,520
Speaker 3: Right.

866
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,560
Speaker 2: It feels like you're kind of coming out of a

867
00:45:24,600 --> 00:45:29,200
Speaker 2: dark age if you're a Washington Commanders fan. And I

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00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: do not think Sam is the answer at quarterback. Yeah,

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00:45:32,840 --> 00:45:35,040
Speaker 2: he can play well against backups when teams are running

870
00:45:35,120 --> 00:45:39,080
Speaker 2: zero defensive scheme against him in the preseason, but he's

871
00:45:39,120 --> 00:45:41,080
Speaker 2: got major issues. I think teams are going to attack

872
00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,640
Speaker 2: this upcoming regular season, So I am not shocked to

873
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:46,240
Speaker 2: see that they have him at six and a half wins,

874
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,960
Speaker 2: just because this division is so tough. I mean, the

875
00:45:49,000 --> 00:45:52,560
Speaker 2: Eagles are really good, Cowboys are really good. Arguably both

876
00:45:52,560 --> 00:45:55,319
Speaker 2: are top three teams NFC, and then you have a

877
00:45:55,320 --> 00:45:58,120
Speaker 2: Giants team that's an overachieving team that's just really tough,

878
00:45:58,280 --> 00:46:04,200
Speaker 2: well coached, and you know, Washington, I still think they

879
00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:07,640
Speaker 2: are a couple pieces away from being above five hundred team.

880
00:46:07,840 --> 00:46:10,920
Speaker 2: And last year they almost got there, right, they were

881
00:46:10,960 --> 00:46:13,000
Speaker 2: almost in the playoffs. If they had just beaten the Giants,

882
00:46:13,000 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 2: they probably would have be able to get in at

883
00:46:14,280 --> 00:46:16,759
Speaker 2: towards the end of the season. But you know, they're

884
00:46:16,800 --> 00:46:19,240
Speaker 2: just a team that they don't have a winning culture

885
00:46:19,400 --> 00:46:21,040
Speaker 2: and they haven't really brought in players that have ever

886
00:46:21,080 --> 00:46:23,640
Speaker 2: won either across the league. It's kind of a team of,

887
00:46:25,200 --> 00:46:27,960
Speaker 2: you know, of guys that are just trying to find

888
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:30,239
Speaker 2: their way at this point. So when I'm looking at

889
00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:33,560
Speaker 2: this Washington team. I was shocked it was six and

890
00:46:33,640 --> 00:46:36,400
Speaker 2: a half because I thought, wow, that seems low, and

891
00:46:36,440 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: then I was the months have gone on, it's like, no,

892
00:46:38,320 --> 00:46:41,279
Speaker 2: that's a good number, like they could steal a game,

893
00:46:41,360 --> 00:46:43,200
Speaker 2: get lucky here or there, and maybe get the seven

894
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 2: or eight wins. But as a better we don't bet

895
00:46:45,760 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 2: on that. We bet on the numbers and what we

896
00:46:47,440 --> 00:46:48,960
Speaker 2: think is going to happen. And I'm gonna take the

897
00:46:49,000 --> 00:46:52,080
Speaker 2: under here on a team that it'll be great for them,

898
00:46:52,160 --> 00:46:54,520
Speaker 2: right if you can show out and have huge moments,

899
00:46:55,880 --> 00:46:57,360
Speaker 2: that'd be great for them because they just haven't had

900
00:46:57,360 --> 00:46:59,120
Speaker 2: a quarterback and that's been such a huge issue for

901
00:46:59,160 --> 00:47:02,319
Speaker 2: this team. I mean, Kirk left what is six seven

902
00:47:02,360 --> 00:47:04,200
Speaker 2: years ago and they just really haven't found anyone to

903
00:47:04,200 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: replace him since he's left. So yeah, for me, Washington,

904
00:47:09,680 --> 00:47:11,480
Speaker 2: I don't care if they made these guys fifteen or

905
00:47:11,520 --> 00:47:13,680
Speaker 2: twenty to one. I just wouldn't take them to this division.

906
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:15,759
Speaker 2: I just there's not scenario where I see them being

907
00:47:16,239 --> 00:47:18,040
Speaker 2: better than the Cowboys are better than the Eagles, So

908
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,000
Speaker 2: for divisionalides, I wouldn't touch it. And if I'm gonna

909
00:47:22,000 --> 00:47:25,040
Speaker 2: take an under, it's gonna be on the Eagles, and

910
00:47:25,080 --> 00:47:26,879
Speaker 2: it's gonna be on Washington. I think both these teams

911
00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:29,080
Speaker 2: have good value towards the under this upcoming season.

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00:47:29,920 --> 00:47:33,400
Speaker 1: All right, Ross, I'm giving you a chance. Well, Simon

913
00:47:33,560 --> 00:47:36,240
Speaker 1: was talking, give me one best bet.

914
00:47:37,239 --> 00:47:39,239
Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, I think if I had to make

915
00:47:39,280 --> 00:47:42,920
Speaker 5: one right now, I think I might be the Cowboys over.

916
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:48,520
Speaker 5: I mean, they've been a pretty consistent twelve win team here.

917
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:52,359
Speaker 5: I think they're better than they were last year. The

918
00:47:52,400 --> 00:47:55,600
Speaker 5: only thing I think that can screw it up. I

919
00:47:55,600 --> 00:47:58,480
Speaker 5: don't think Dak's gonna lead the NFL in interceptions again.

920
00:48:00,160 --> 00:48:02,760
Speaker 5: That can screw it up is injuries to the O line,

921
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 5: which is a possibility. But even if they have interested

922
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:07,920
Speaker 5: to O line, they can put somebody a guard, bump

923
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:12,480
Speaker 5: Tyler Smith out to tackle, and Mike McCarthy and we'll see,

924
00:48:12,560 --> 00:48:14,920
Speaker 5: because it's gonna be real bad if Mike McCarthy is

925
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:17,880
Speaker 5: the thing that holds this team back, real bad. But

926
00:48:18,560 --> 00:48:20,919
Speaker 5: you know what, maybe he learned from Kellen Moore, maybe

927
00:48:20,920 --> 00:48:22,200
Speaker 5: he learned from his time off.

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Speaker 3: So I think the Cowboys is gonna be very good.

929
00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:26,920
Speaker 5: I think the Cowboys are right there with the Eagles

930
00:48:26,960 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 5: and the Niners at the top of the NFC. I'll

931
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 5: go over ten and a half with the Cowboys as

932
00:48:32,440 --> 00:48:33,880
Speaker 5: my best bet for the NFC.

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00:48:34,160 --> 00:48:36,279
Speaker 1: All right, we're taking a flyer. We're going over ten

934
00:48:36,320 --> 00:48:39,839
Speaker 1: and a half. Find an outline for over ten and

935
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:43,680
Speaker 1: a half. Listen, we also like the Cowboys plus one eighty.

936
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:47,280
Speaker 1: The Eagles are the class of this division and probably

937
00:48:47,320 --> 00:48:52,319
Speaker 1: the class of the conference. But the chances that they're

938
00:48:52,360 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 1: going to repeat in this division, given the history, given

939
00:48:55,560 --> 00:49:01,759
Speaker 1: how perfect they've given their injury luck, the Cowboys of

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