1 00:00:05,840 --> 00:00:08,879 Speaker 1: After senior insider Ken Rosenthal is here. Ken your thoughts 2 00:00:08,960 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: on the Braves doing this during the season to help 3 00:00:11,760 --> 00:00:14,880 Speaker 1: them get what they want in the offseason, including Hasan Kim. 4 00:00:15,960 --> 00:00:18,280 Speaker 2: I'm not sure how much of an effect that had 5 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:20,720 Speaker 2: certainly couldn't hurt they got to know him. 6 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:23,959 Speaker 3: From that perspective, yes, it helps because you. 7 00:00:23,880 --> 00:00:25,560 Speaker 2: Take a look at a player, you kind of see 8 00:00:25,600 --> 00:00:28,560 Speaker 2: what he's about, and then you decide, Okay, if he 9 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: gets the free agency, which he almost certainly would have, 10 00:00:30,960 --> 00:00:33,640 Speaker 2: he was going to decline that player option, then we 11 00:00:33,760 --> 00:00:37,720 Speaker 2: get back in. So from that perspective, yes, from Kim's perspective, 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:41,040 Speaker 2: he did decline the player option and he got four 13 00:00:41,080 --> 00:00:44,400 Speaker 2: million dollars more out of it, so I'm sure he 14 00:00:44,479 --> 00:00:46,200 Speaker 2: got a little bit of a sense of what it's 15 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,159 Speaker 2: like to be in Atlanta Brave. He is close with 16 00:00:48,240 --> 00:00:51,920 Speaker 2: Profar so that helps too. But if he had gotten 17 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:55,080 Speaker 2: a commanding multi year offer on the market that he 18 00:00:55,480 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 2: liked from a team he liked, he probably would. 19 00:00:57,480 --> 00:00:57,960 Speaker 3: Have taken that. 20 00:00:58,080 --> 00:01:01,040 Speaker 2: Now it was reported that he received multi year offers, 21 00:01:01,040 --> 00:01:04,000 Speaker 2: and I believe that, but maybe he just feels, hey, 22 00:01:04,400 --> 00:01:06,720 Speaker 2: I'll do the one year at twenty, go back out 23 00:01:06,720 --> 00:01:07,280 Speaker 2: in the market. 24 00:01:07,319 --> 00:01:09,560 Speaker 3: Scott Boris has had success with a number of. 25 00:01:09,520 --> 00:01:13,520 Speaker 2: Players doing this lately, Peter A. Lonzo being the most recent, 26 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:18,000 Speaker 2: So maybe Kim can see himself in that same light. 27 00:01:19,640 --> 00:01:23,000 Speaker 4: Is this indicative of the shortstop market and how thin 28 00:01:23,080 --> 00:01:25,720 Speaker 4: it is the fact that he was clearly the best 29 00:01:26,120 --> 00:01:29,479 Speaker 4: defensive shortstop in the market. In my opinion, twenty million 30 00:01:30,120 --> 00:01:34,360 Speaker 4: is a tremendous amount for a defensive not only but 31 00:01:34,520 --> 00:01:36,440 Speaker 4: essentially just a defensive shortstop. 32 00:01:37,640 --> 00:01:39,480 Speaker 2: It is a lot, But at the same time, Eric, 33 00:01:39,520 --> 00:01:42,480 Speaker 2: it's one year, and it is a guy who in 34 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:45,759 Speaker 2: San Diego his last year there, I believe was an 35 00:01:45,800 --> 00:01:48,880 Speaker 2: offensive force as well. So if he has the kind 36 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 2: of year that hash On Kim has shown he can 37 00:01:51,680 --> 00:01:53,560 Speaker 2: have before, that's a. 38 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 3: Pretty valuable player. 39 00:01:54,920 --> 00:01:58,320 Speaker 2: And twenty million for that kind of player is probably 40 00:01:58,360 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 2: not a bad rate at all. Teams look at War 41 00:02:02,040 --> 00:02:03,920 Speaker 2: and this is a little bit outdated now, but it 42 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:06,960 Speaker 2: used to be one War was worth eight million in 43 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 2: free agency. I think it's more like nine or ten now, 44 00:02:09,400 --> 00:02:10,480 Speaker 2: maybe even higher than that. 45 00:02:11,080 --> 00:02:12,600 Speaker 3: So two War. 46 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:15,200 Speaker 2: Player, three War player, twenty million. 47 00:02:15,360 --> 00:02:16,240 Speaker 3: That makes some sense. 48 00:02:17,440 --> 00:02:21,280 Speaker 1: Ken, Let's get to the Padres and the Mets and 49 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:23,919 Speaker 1: anyone else involved here. I'm going to try and take 50 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:27,200 Speaker 1: the San Diego spin first. I loved what you talked 51 00:02:27,240 --> 00:02:29,680 Speaker 1: about with Aj Prewler the other day on fair territory 52 00:02:29,720 --> 00:02:31,760 Speaker 1: and how he's fun to keep up with because he's 53 00:02:31,800 --> 00:02:33,960 Speaker 1: all over the place when you try and get to 54 00:02:34,000 --> 00:02:35,640 Speaker 1: someone like this to be like, focus, what do you 55 00:02:35,680 --> 00:02:38,560 Speaker 1: think we're actually going to do here? What are you 56 00:02:38,680 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 1: seeing hearing in terms of what they'll do. I know 57 00:02:40,960 --> 00:02:44,120 Speaker 1: you were shooting down Tatisan Machado as anything in a 58 00:02:44,200 --> 00:02:46,480 Speaker 1: trade talk, but there are a lot of other impact 59 00:02:46,480 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 1: players on that roster. 60 00:02:48,360 --> 00:02:52,200 Speaker 2: Right and Scott using the word fun to describe what 61 00:02:52,240 --> 00:02:56,160 Speaker 2: it's like to cover AJ Prewler, that's one word. Frustrating 62 00:02:56,240 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 2: is another word. Difficult is another word, because he does 63 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,080 Speaker 2: so many things or is involved in so many conversations 64 00:03:02,120 --> 00:03:04,760 Speaker 2: at once, and all teams are, but it seems to 65 00:03:04,800 --> 00:03:07,640 Speaker 2: me that he takes it almost to another level. Now, 66 00:03:08,120 --> 00:03:11,600 Speaker 2: as I reported with Will Simon and Dennis Lynn, Tatis 67 00:03:11,800 --> 00:03:15,360 Speaker 2: is not available and Lindora is not going to the Padres, 68 00:03:15,520 --> 00:03:17,799 Speaker 2: so people can forget about that. But you ask which 69 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:22,000 Speaker 2: names are in play. Nick Pavetta is certainly a guy 70 00:03:22,040 --> 00:03:24,520 Speaker 2: the Padres are talking about, and you might say well, wait, 71 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:27,799 Speaker 2: they've lost Dylan Cees, They're probably going to lose Michael King. 72 00:03:28,000 --> 00:03:29,960 Speaker 2: You Darvish is out for the season. Why are they 73 00:03:29,960 --> 00:03:34,200 Speaker 2: trading Nick Pavetta? And the answer would be simply that 74 00:03:34,480 --> 00:03:37,280 Speaker 2: if they can turn Nick Pavetta into two younger pitchers 75 00:03:37,440 --> 00:03:40,280 Speaker 2: or something else that can get them young pitching, that's 76 00:03:40,320 --> 00:03:41,680 Speaker 2: what they would want to do. 77 00:03:41,760 --> 00:03:43,040 Speaker 3: They need multiples. 78 00:03:43,240 --> 00:03:46,800 Speaker 2: So Pavetta is one name, Mason Miller is another name, 79 00:03:46,960 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 2: Ramo Loreato a third, and there's two other relievers that 80 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,920 Speaker 2: we've heard as well, and these are. 81 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:53,960 Speaker 3: Just some of the names in the Mets conversations. 82 00:03:54,400 --> 00:03:59,240 Speaker 2: That's Jeremiah Estrada and Adrian Morey Jane. So these teams 83 00:03:59,280 --> 00:04:03,040 Speaker 2: have been talking, there's no question about that, and that 84 00:04:03,080 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 2: doesn't mean a deal is going to come to pass, 85 00:04:05,480 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 2: and it mean that it isn't. 86 00:04:07,960 --> 00:04:09,080 Speaker 3: What I imagine and. 87 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,840 Speaker 2: What the Mets know is that Preller is talking to 88 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:15,160 Speaker 2: twenty eight other teams as well, and he's simply trying 89 00:04:15,200 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: to put together the best possible equation for his club. 90 00:04:19,000 --> 00:04:21,680 Speaker 2: It doesn't seem like he wants to go backwards in payroll, 91 00:04:21,720 --> 00:04:24,520 Speaker 2: but it also seems that he can't go up. So 92 00:04:24,600 --> 00:04:28,000 Speaker 2: if he's going to add players at money, he's going 93 00:04:28,000 --> 00:04:31,320 Speaker 2: to have to subtract somewhere as well, and that seems 94 00:04:31,360 --> 00:04:31,600 Speaker 2: to be. 95 00:04:31,560 --> 00:04:32,120 Speaker 3: Where this is. 96 00:04:32,160 --> 00:04:34,479 Speaker 2: But if you're going to ask me to predict how 97 00:04:34,520 --> 00:04:37,360 Speaker 2: this all might play out, I have no idea. 98 00:04:38,560 --> 00:04:41,400 Speaker 4: It is there a chance that the Padres can take 99 00:04:41,440 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 4: a step back because he said, you don't want to 100 00:04:43,640 --> 00:04:46,240 Speaker 4: take a step back in a sense of payroll, but 101 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:49,799 Speaker 4: how things are working out injuries, the possibility of needing 102 00:04:49,839 --> 00:04:53,400 Speaker 4: to maybe drop a little payroll with all the moves 103 00:04:53,400 --> 00:04:56,279 Speaker 4: they made at the trade deadline, are they okay taking 104 00:04:56,279 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 4: a step back for this season? Because we saw that 105 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:03,200 Speaker 4: earlier with ajp early in his career when he brought 106 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:04,560 Speaker 4: in all these guys and then he had to get 107 00:05:04,640 --> 00:05:07,000 Speaker 4: rid of some of them to then build for the 108 00:05:07,000 --> 00:05:09,120 Speaker 4: next season. Is that a possibility? As he said, no, 109 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 4: I'm keeping pedal to the medal win this year, next 110 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:13,680 Speaker 4: year and the following years. 111 00:05:14,240 --> 00:05:18,800 Speaker 2: He hasn't said either, But my expectation, Eric is that 112 00:05:19,080 --> 00:05:21,400 Speaker 2: he wants to keep going and keep competing. That is 113 00:05:21,440 --> 00:05:25,920 Speaker 2: his personality. He is in a different situation now than 114 00:05:25,960 --> 00:05:28,559 Speaker 2: he was in those early years. This is a team 115 00:05:28,600 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: that draws three million, It's a huge force in San 116 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:37,360 Speaker 2: Diego incredible success story from that perspective alone, and they 117 00:05:37,400 --> 00:05:40,360 Speaker 2: intend to compete. And Aj Preller is a competitive dude 118 00:05:40,440 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 2: and he wants to compete. So I don't see them 119 00:05:43,400 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 2: taking a step back. And if you'll take a look 120 00:05:45,160 --> 00:05:48,120 Speaker 2: at it, think about it. They've got Machado, Tatis and 121 00:05:48,120 --> 00:05:51,159 Speaker 2: Bogart's to huge contracts. 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Teams are going to 156 00:07:33,880 --> 00:07:37,520 Speaker 2: look at everything and if they trade Tarrek Schooble, it 157 00:07:37,560 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 2: would be with the idea of still competing in twenty 158 00:07:40,760 --> 00:07:44,280 Speaker 2: twenty six, they wouldn't be in their minds going backwards. 159 00:07:44,480 --> 00:07:48,000 Speaker 2: They've signed Finnegan, they've signed Jansen now, and they want 160 00:07:48,040 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: to win now. The best way to win for twenty 161 00:07:51,920 --> 00:07:55,360 Speaker 2: twenty six is with Trek's scouble. But if they can put. 162 00:07:55,200 --> 00:07:57,080 Speaker 3: Together a package, it's the same thing we were talking 163 00:07:57,120 --> 00:07:57,880 Speaker 3: about with Paveta. 164 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:00,960 Speaker 2: If you can turn them into multiple guys who can 165 00:08:01,040 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 2: help you short and long term, then you at least 166 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 2: consider it now. It's got to be a big package. 167 00:08:06,720 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 2: It's Trek Scooble two times cy Young winner back to 168 00:08:09,120 --> 00:08:12,640 Speaker 2: back years, but it is one year of Trek's schoobl 169 00:08:12,680 --> 00:08:15,640 Speaker 2: so that's going to depress it somewhat. And if they 170 00:08:15,640 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 2: can get this monster kind of return, maybe, but I 171 00:08:20,720 --> 00:08:22,000 Speaker 2: still believe that trade is. 172 00:08:22,000 --> 00:08:22,960 Speaker 3: A long shot. 173 00:08:23,800 --> 00:08:26,840 Speaker 5: Okay, speaking of trades, the Phillies go on sign of 174 00:08:26,920 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 5: Dolas Garcia. I'm guessing the days of Nick Castiano's wearing 175 00:08:30,440 --> 00:08:33,000 Speaker 5: a Phillies uniform are coming to an end. What are 176 00:08:33,000 --> 00:08:35,720 Speaker 5: you hearing about him? Where he could end up? Is 177 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:37,640 Speaker 5: this gonna be a situation They're probably gonna have to 178 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:39,720 Speaker 5: eat some money in order to get something done. 179 00:08:40,480 --> 00:08:43,760 Speaker 2: To the last question, the answer is yes and Castellanos 180 00:08:43,880 --> 00:08:46,200 Speaker 2: is a guy who has had some good moments with 181 00:08:46,240 --> 00:08:48,680 Speaker 2: the Phillies, no question about that, but it seemed to 182 00:08:48,720 --> 00:08:52,319 Speaker 2: sour last year, and there's no question, no doubt that 183 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:55,800 Speaker 2: he will not be on their roster in twenty twenty six. 184 00:08:55,920 --> 00:08:59,640 Speaker 2: They have acquired a Dolice Garcia. They've signed him for 185 00:08:59,640 --> 00:09:02,200 Speaker 2: ten years, million dollars, and Dave Dombrowski has basically said 186 00:09:02,200 --> 00:09:06,000 Speaker 2: our outfield is set, told reporters that today in Philadelphia, 187 00:09:06,160 --> 00:09:10,840 Speaker 2: Solis Garcia will be in right, marsh in I'm sorry, 188 00:09:11,000 --> 00:09:13,680 Speaker 2: Justin Crawford, the rookie in center and marsh and a 189 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: platoon partner perhaps in left. That's the way they're going 190 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,120 Speaker 2: to go about this. And Nick Castianos is not part 191 00:09:20,200 --> 00:09:21,040 Speaker 2: of their plans. 192 00:09:21,600 --> 00:09:23,200 Speaker 3: Where he ends up, I don't know. 193 00:09:23,920 --> 00:09:27,240 Speaker 2: He is someone that if they pay enough money down, 194 00:09:27,360 --> 00:09:29,400 Speaker 2: you can probably send them pretty much anywhere. 195 00:09:29,520 --> 00:09:32,440 Speaker 3: But we'll see how this all plays out. 196 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 4: All right, let's go to the Japanese market in Munitaka. 197 00:09:37,080 --> 00:09:40,160 Speaker 4: Morikami has kind of been silent. We're not sure what's 198 00:09:40,200 --> 00:09:43,400 Speaker 4: going on ever since, especially ever since we saw the 199 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:46,680 Speaker 4: stat that he's hit oh ninety five on fastballs, which 200 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 4: I heard from somebody that that was maybe a little overblown. 201 00:09:50,800 --> 00:09:53,559 Speaker 4: That he does hit over he does hit fastballs over 202 00:09:53,640 --> 00:09:56,120 Speaker 4: ninety three miles an hour, But what is his market 203 00:09:56,200 --> 00:10:00,160 Speaker 4: looking like, because if they think his power will we'll 204 00:10:00,360 --> 00:10:05,200 Speaker 4: duplicate into the big leagues. It's eighty power by some scouts. 205 00:10:05,600 --> 00:10:09,000 Speaker 2: Right, And this is the question with Murakami, and I 206 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: wrote about this yesterday basically saying he's the biggest mystery 207 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 2: in the market. 208 00:10:13,440 --> 00:10:16,160 Speaker 3: Because we don't hear or haven't heard. 209 00:10:15,840 --> 00:10:19,760 Speaker 2: Many teams involved doesn't mean that there are teams that 210 00:10:19,840 --> 00:10:20,600 Speaker 2: are not involved. 211 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,000 Speaker 3: We just don't know where this is right now. 212 00:10:23,000 --> 00:10:27,439 Speaker 2: And sometimes these negotiations with Japanese players and other players too, 213 00:10:27,520 --> 00:10:29,840 Speaker 2: you just don't hear much about the teams involved. We 214 00:10:29,880 --> 00:10:32,920 Speaker 2: haven't frankly heard much about Okamoto or am I either 215 00:10:33,280 --> 00:10:38,120 Speaker 2: in terms of teams. So that said, Murakami is a 216 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:40,800 Speaker 2: guy who, yes, as you said, Eric, eighty power, but 217 00:10:41,800 --> 00:10:44,800 Speaker 2: serious concerns about the swing and mis tendencies. 218 00:10:44,840 --> 00:10:45,120 Speaker 4: Now. 219 00:10:45,280 --> 00:10:46,959 Speaker 3: I wrote in my notes column. 220 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,560 Speaker 2: Otani ages eighteen to twenty two seasons had an even 221 00:10:50,640 --> 00:10:54,120 Speaker 2: higher strikeout rate in Japan than Murakami has in his career. 222 00:10:54,520 --> 00:10:57,199 Speaker 2: But if you look at Saya Suzuki, his strikeout rate 223 00:10:57,240 --> 00:10:59,920 Speaker 2: in Japan was much lower than Murakami's, and he is 224 00:11:00,080 --> 00:11:04,400 Speaker 2: been a successful major league hitter, so more Kami is 225 00:11:04,440 --> 00:11:07,080 Speaker 2: something of a boom or bust guy, at least in 226 00:11:07,120 --> 00:11:09,920 Speaker 2: the eyes of clubs. Do I expect he's going to 227 00:11:09,920 --> 00:11:13,480 Speaker 2: get a deal by Monday at five pm ET, that's 228 00:11:13,520 --> 00:11:17,080 Speaker 2: the deadline for his forty five day negotiating window to expire. 229 00:11:17,160 --> 00:11:19,720 Speaker 3: I do expect he's going to be a major league player. 230 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:23,240 Speaker 3: I couldn't predict where, and I know I'm saying a 231 00:11:23,240 --> 00:11:24,439 Speaker 3: lot of I can't predict. 232 00:11:24,440 --> 00:11:26,840 Speaker 2: I don't know, But guess what, guys, I don't know 233 00:11:26,880 --> 00:11:28,720 Speaker 2: and I can't predict, and I'm not gonna lie and 234 00:11:28,760 --> 00:11:29,480 Speaker 2: make up stuff. 235 00:11:30,559 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 4: Is there is there a certain player that each of 236 00:11:32,800 --> 00:11:38,080 Speaker 4: those you talked about, uh Okamato anyway, I say I'm 237 00:11:38,080 --> 00:11:41,720 Speaker 4: wrong every time a Kamoto a Kamoto, thank you, Ken 238 00:11:41,760 --> 00:11:44,439 Speaker 4: never gets it wrong, So I'm always jealous of that. 239 00:11:44,840 --> 00:11:47,680 Speaker 4: Is there a person in the market. Is there a 240 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:50,920 Speaker 4: current big league free agent in the market that they're 241 00:11:50,960 --> 00:11:54,680 Speaker 4: waiting to see, Okay, because of this left handed power 242 00:11:54,760 --> 00:11:58,400 Speaker 4: hitter where he lands that will affect more Kami? Is 243 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:02,040 Speaker 4: this you know? Is there somebody for a Kamoto also. 244 00:12:03,760 --> 00:12:07,800 Speaker 2: Yes, and certainly when you look at the entirety of 245 00:12:07,840 --> 00:12:11,760 Speaker 2: the market. Bregman is a third baseman, and Morikami and 246 00:12:11,960 --> 00:12:15,880 Speaker 2: Akamoto both play third, seemingly first and not great defenders 247 00:12:15,960 --> 00:12:17,840 Speaker 2: from what we've heard in either. 248 00:12:17,679 --> 00:12:21,920 Speaker 3: Spot, So that affects it. But also Dellinger affects it. 249 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,199 Speaker 3: Are not obeying out there affects it as a trade possibility. 250 00:12:25,280 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 2: All of these things come into play, and it puts 251 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:31,920 Speaker 2: pressure on the agents for these players to get something 252 00:12:32,000 --> 00:12:35,120 Speaker 2: done because there is a deadline in effect, and when 253 00:12:35,160 --> 00:12:37,840 Speaker 2: these other players are out there unsigned or not traded, 254 00:12:38,360 --> 00:12:39,640 Speaker 2: it does complicate things. 255 00:12:39,640 --> 00:12:43,800 Speaker 3: I forgot Boba Schett, He's another one. So all of this. 256 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:46,640 Speaker 2: Comes into play. And yes, Eric, I think you're reading 257 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,840 Speaker 2: it correctly here that I don't know if the word 258 00:12:49,960 --> 00:12:53,120 Speaker 2: blocked is the correct word to use. But there is 259 00:12:53,200 --> 00:12:56,120 Speaker 2: obstruction I guess for these guys to some extent because 260 00:12:56,160 --> 00:12:58,760 Speaker 2: other Major league phragans are still available. 261 00:13:00,120 --> 00:13:01,640 Speaker 5: You had wrote about it, and it had just come 262 00:13:01,679 --> 00:13:05,199 Speaker 5: out about Kutel Marte's no trade list teams. He came 263 00:13:05,280 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 5: up with his limited no trade team. Any surprises there 264 00:13:08,920 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 5: is it going to affect his trade market at all? 265 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:14,640 Speaker 2: I don't expect it to affect it, and the whole 266 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:16,640 Speaker 2: thing was a surprise, honestly, and I know a lot 267 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:19,560 Speaker 2: of fans responded to the story saying, how did he 268 00:13:19,600 --> 00:13:21,240 Speaker 2: come up with this list? I have no idea how 269 00:13:21,240 --> 00:13:24,200 Speaker 2: he came up with the list. I just published the 270 00:13:24,240 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 2: list after I got it. It's kind of a random 271 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,880 Speaker 2: collection of teams. It's the A's and the Giants, It's 272 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,120 Speaker 2: the Yankees, the Cardinals, and the Pirates. 273 00:13:32,840 --> 00:13:33,920 Speaker 3: Of those teams, the. 274 00:13:33,920 --> 00:13:36,120 Speaker 2: Giants were the one that might have been in the 275 00:13:36,160 --> 00:13:39,800 Speaker 2: market because he is someone that plays a position where 276 00:13:39,800 --> 00:13:42,559 Speaker 2: they have a severe need second base. But whether the 277 00:13:42,600 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 2: Giants were going to accomplish a trade in division with 278 00:13:45,240 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 2: the Diamondbacks was always a question anyway. I guess the 279 00:13:49,000 --> 00:13:53,760 Speaker 2: Pirates could be a possibility, but that's not necessarily likely either, 280 00:13:53,920 --> 00:13:57,320 Speaker 2: So no real surprises there. I don't expect it to 281 00:13:57,320 --> 00:14:00,440 Speaker 2: have much of an effect Kevin. The real question is 282 00:14:00,679 --> 00:14:04,760 Speaker 2: will he be traded? Will some team meet the Diamondbacks price? 283 00:14:04,840 --> 00:14:07,400 Speaker 2: And it's going to be a high price, because, as 284 00:14:07,440 --> 00:14:10,360 Speaker 2: I wrote, by some estimates, the surplus value on this 285 00:14:10,440 --> 00:14:13,560 Speaker 2: contract could be one hundred million. That contract is so 286 00:14:13,760 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 2: attractive to teams it makes him that much more valuable. 287 00:14:17,520 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 2: On top of he is a really productive player, one 288 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:22,520 Speaker 2: of the best at his position in the sport. 289 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 4: One of the things you wrote about was the Nats 290 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:30,600 Speaker 4: reluctance to possibly trade cj Abrams. Is that still the 291 00:14:30,680 --> 00:14:34,680 Speaker 4: case today with Hashun Kim now going off the market 292 00:14:34,760 --> 00:14:37,480 Speaker 4: and another you know, him being a shortstop. What other 293 00:14:37,520 --> 00:14:39,240 Speaker 4: shortstops are available for teams? 294 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:43,560 Speaker 2: It seems to me the Nats want to see what 295 00:14:43,720 --> 00:14:46,440 Speaker 2: cj Abrams can do over the next year or so 296 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:49,560 Speaker 2: and see if he can improve under their new system, 297 00:14:49,560 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 2: their new president base operations, new manager, new coaching staff entirely, 298 00:14:54,920 --> 00:14:58,920 Speaker 2: and their new president of baseball Operations, Paul Taboni, has 299 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:03,320 Speaker 2: spoken repeatedly how he feels that these players, some of 300 00:15:03,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 2: their young players, including Gore, Mackenzie Gore, and cj Abrams, 301 00:15:07,160 --> 00:15:10,480 Speaker 2: have another gear. And if you believe they have another gear, 302 00:15:10,520 --> 00:15:14,800 Speaker 2: if you believe cj Abrams in particular can improve defensively, well, 303 00:15:15,160 --> 00:15:18,200 Speaker 2: then maybe the value is that much higher at the 304 00:15:18,240 --> 00:15:21,000 Speaker 2: deadline or next off season when you'd still have the 305 00:15:21,040 --> 00:15:23,960 Speaker 2: ability to trade them. So it's going to be really 306 00:15:24,040 --> 00:15:26,680 Speaker 2: interesting to see what they do here with Gore. My 307 00:15:26,800 --> 00:15:29,240 Speaker 2: opinion is that they should trade him. To me, it's 308 00:15:29,280 --> 00:15:32,400 Speaker 2: a risk to take any picture into the season knowing 309 00:15:32,760 --> 00:15:35,480 Speaker 2: he might get hurt, or he might not perform as 310 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,280 Speaker 2: well as you would want and his value would suffer. 311 00:15:38,920 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 2: Right now, Mackenzie Gore is healthy. He is a guy 312 00:15:41,760 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 2: with two years of control left. It seems to me 313 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:47,880 Speaker 2: now's the time to capitalize with Abrams. There's an extra year, 314 00:15:48,680 --> 00:15:51,000 Speaker 2: and maybe you wait a little bit and just see 315 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:54,360 Speaker 2: if his value will increase, and maybe, hey, if his 316 00:15:54,440 --> 00:15:57,640 Speaker 2: value increases that much, you resign him. I don't expect this, 317 00:15:57,720 --> 00:16:01,400 Speaker 2: but you extend him and go about it that way. 318 00:16:02,640 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: Ken, good stuff. We'll talk to you later in the week. 319 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,000 Speaker 1: We'll also hear from you on fair territory later in 320 00:16:07,000 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 1: the week. 321 00:16:08,160 --> 00:16:14,080 Speaker 3: Sounds good. Thanks. 322 00:16:14,640 --> 00:16:17,600 Speaker 1: I love that there are quite a few rumors flowing 323 00:16:17,760 --> 00:16:20,160 Speaker 1: and we're waiting for more trade activity. That is the 324 00:16:20,160 --> 00:16:22,880 Speaker 1: one thing that I'll point out. I expected more. I 325 00:16:22,880 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: felt like some insiders were teasing that that was going 326 00:16:25,640 --> 00:16:27,760 Speaker 1: to be a major route early in the off season, 327 00:16:27,840 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 1: and we haven't seen a ton. Let's start with Brendan Donovan. 328 00:16:33,800 --> 00:16:37,080 Speaker 1: The Mariners and Giants have emerged as front runners in 329 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:41,000 Speaker 1: a potential trade for him. According to Katie Wu, we've 330 00:16:41,000 --> 00:16:44,120 Speaker 1: got two teams that are looking like finalists. You never 331 00:16:44,200 --> 00:16:47,360 Speaker 1: know another team could jump in. The Royals were mentioned 332 00:16:47,400 --> 00:16:49,600 Speaker 1: in the year, or maybe it was in Ken's column 333 00:16:49,600 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: as a team that's very interested in someone like Donovan 334 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:54,360 Speaker 1: as well. I would imagine almost any team would be 335 00:16:54,400 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: interested in him, although it helps if you have a 336 00:16:56,960 --> 00:17:02,360 Speaker 1: really nice opening over at second base. Man, if I'm 337 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,720 Speaker 1: one of these teams, I'm going for it. I'm going hard. 338 00:17:04,720 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 1: I'm a big fan. We were sitting with Olie Marmal 339 00:17:07,200 --> 00:17:09,520 Speaker 1: and I'll say it for him. It sounds like Donovan 340 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:13,200 Speaker 1: is his favorite player. You know, he lit up when 341 00:17:13,200 --> 00:17:16,600 Speaker 1: we asked about him versus anyone else. Plus, you're getting 342 00:17:17,080 --> 00:17:21,000 Speaker 1: versatility on base percentage and someone who seems like the 343 00:17:21,080 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: tools I mean, KP. It's not like he's, you know, 344 00:17:24,760 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: eighty grade on every tool, but every tool is at 345 00:17:28,119 --> 00:17:31,000 Speaker 1: least average. And then he's just an on base machine 346 00:17:31,040 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 1: and seems like he's an unphased and would be someone 347 00:17:34,240 --> 00:17:37,159 Speaker 1: that I'd want into trenches for a playoff series. He 348 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:39,399 Speaker 1: seemed like he'd be that pest who's getting on for 349 00:17:39,800 --> 00:17:42,200 Speaker 1: someone like let's say it's the Mariners, Julio or cal 350 00:17:42,800 --> 00:17:44,720 Speaker 1: to turn a solo into a two rug shot. 351 00:17:45,560 --> 00:17:47,320 Speaker 5: Yeah, I like to refer to those guys as an 352 00:17:47,359 --> 00:17:48,680 Speaker 5: eighty great sixth tool. 353 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:49,399 Speaker 4: It's the heart. 354 00:17:50,119 --> 00:17:52,160 Speaker 5: He just plays the game the right way. You know, 355 00:17:52,760 --> 00:17:55,359 Speaker 5: there's certain guys that the some of their parts is 356 00:17:55,400 --> 00:17:58,120 Speaker 5: greater than the hole. Like he he he doesn't have 357 00:17:58,400 --> 00:18:00,760 Speaker 5: the plus skills any where. He is not going to 358 00:18:00,800 --> 00:18:04,400 Speaker 5: grade off the table. But his collection of skills plus 359 00:18:04,400 --> 00:18:08,199 Speaker 5: his heart makes him a very, very valuable player. And 360 00:18:09,080 --> 00:18:12,000 Speaker 5: you know, we need to get more former gms on this. 361 00:18:12,119 --> 00:18:13,879 Speaker 5: The last time we were on that was on and 362 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,240 Speaker 5: I'd love to just hear more about these conversations, like 363 00:18:17,480 --> 00:18:20,000 Speaker 5: what is the hold up? The Cardinals are obviously in 364 00:18:20,040 --> 00:18:23,840 Speaker 5: a point in time where you know, they're kind of retooling. 365 00:18:23,880 --> 00:18:25,840 Speaker 5: They're getting rid of some guys that have value. They're 366 00:18:25,840 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 5: trying to bring in, you know, the max returns for 367 00:18:28,840 --> 00:18:30,720 Speaker 5: kind of building for a couple of years from now, 368 00:18:30,880 --> 00:18:32,000 Speaker 5: new front office. 369 00:18:32,400 --> 00:18:33,240 Speaker 4: You know, what's the hold up? 370 00:18:33,320 --> 00:18:35,159 Speaker 5: If you're one of these two teams that has a 371 00:18:35,240 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 5: vacancy at second base is trying to win, you love, 372 00:18:39,520 --> 00:18:41,919 Speaker 5: you know, you hear all these teams and gms talk 373 00:18:41,960 --> 00:18:45,480 Speaker 5: about versatility. Brandon Donovan is a Swiss army knife. You 374 00:18:45,480 --> 00:18:47,600 Speaker 5: could play him pretty much anywhere on the diamond. 375 00:18:47,920 --> 00:18:48,760 Speaker 3: He's gonna give you. 376 00:18:48,720 --> 00:18:50,640 Speaker 5: A grade at bat. I don't know what the hold 377 00:18:50,720 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 5: up is, Like, what do these conversations look like? Like, yeah, 378 00:18:54,040 --> 00:18:55,439 Speaker 5: we want them? What are you willing to give up? 379 00:18:55,440 --> 00:18:56,800 Speaker 4: Here is no? Yes? 380 00:18:57,000 --> 00:18:57,080 Speaker 2: No? 381 00:18:57,280 --> 00:18:58,600 Speaker 5: Like, how does it take so long? 382 00:18:58,720 --> 00:18:58,879 Speaker 2: You know? 383 00:18:58,920 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 5: It's like negotiating with my five year olds? 384 00:19:01,720 --> 00:19:08,240 Speaker 1: Sometimes it's worse. Yeah, these guys just nickel and dime 385 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:10,560 Speaker 1: all day long and then they come around to what 386 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:13,439 Speaker 1: they both always would have done. But it's just the 387 00:19:13,480 --> 00:19:15,600 Speaker 1: way that business goes down these days. I'm with you, Like, 388 00:19:15,600 --> 00:19:17,520 Speaker 1: if I'm Seattle, I'm like, yo, I want to get 389 00:19:17,520 --> 00:19:21,520 Speaker 1: this done today. I'm replacing Jorge Polanco. He's beloved there, 390 00:19:21,520 --> 00:19:23,679 Speaker 1: we went after him. I actually think Donovan might end 391 00:19:23,760 --> 00:19:25,520 Speaker 1: up a better player for them over the course of 392 00:19:25,520 --> 00:19:28,160 Speaker 1: the next couple of years. Definitely a much younger player too. 393 00:19:28,240 --> 00:19:32,040 Speaker 1: So anyway, we'll circle back to that bet MGM Futures 394 00:19:32,040 --> 00:19:36,000 Speaker 1: World Series winner. The Mariners are getting thirteen to one odds. 395 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:37,280 Speaker 3: KP. 396 00:19:37,520 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: Kratz as a sucker for anything that's double digit odds. 397 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:43,480 Speaker 1: Double digit to one, right, so this is essentially thirteen 398 00:19:43,520 --> 00:19:46,080 Speaker 1: to one. You can thirteen x your money. If the 399 00:19:46,119 --> 00:19:49,000 Speaker 1: Mariners win. The World Series is coming up this upcoming season. 400 00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:52,480 Speaker 1: This is not a bad place to play. They have 401 00:19:52,600 --> 00:19:55,359 Speaker 1: the pitching talent. They actually have a top five farm 402 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: system right now. It doesn't always play out that way 403 00:19:57,440 --> 00:19:59,360 Speaker 1: in the major leagues, but that's certainly a good thing. 404 00:19:59,520 --> 00:20:01,800 Speaker 1: They brought Anler back, they tried to bring Polanco back. 405 00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:03,560 Speaker 1: I think they're going to trade for someone I hope 406 00:20:03,560 --> 00:20:06,959 Speaker 1: they get for their purposes, either Donovan or can Tell Marte. 407 00:20:06,960 --> 00:20:09,040 Speaker 1: I think that'd be a huge boost for their offense. 408 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:10,280 Speaker 1: So this isn't crazy. 409 00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:13,119 Speaker 5: He yeah, blessing in disguise. When I moved to the 410 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:15,040 Speaker 5: state of Texas, I could no longer bet on my 411 00:20:15,080 --> 00:20:18,920 Speaker 5: app anymore. And it's a good thing because, much like Kratz, 412 00:20:19,200 --> 00:20:22,640 Speaker 5: I love big returns on my small bets, so I'm 413 00:20:22,640 --> 00:20:26,000 Speaker 5: all in on this number. I would hammer it, especially 414 00:20:26,040 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 5: before they go and get Brandon Donovan, because I think 415 00:20:27,840 --> 00:20:29,640 Speaker 5: it brings the number down a little bit. But I 416 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,000 Speaker 5: love thirteen xing my money. 417 00:20:32,520 --> 00:20:35,440 Speaker 1: Mm hmm. I don't win much. 418 00:20:35,720 --> 00:20:38,160 Speaker 5: I don't win much, but I take the bet because 419 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:40,720 Speaker 5: when it does hit that one time, God, it feels 420 00:20:40,760 --> 00:20:41,080 Speaker 5: so good. 421 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: It makes up for a lot of other bets that 422 00:20:43,880 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: don't do as well. I'll tell you that you throw 423 00:20:45,680 --> 00:20:49,200 Speaker 1: a hondo down on the Mariners. Krats. We did Phillies yesterday. 424 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 1: I like this one better. 425 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,439 Speaker 4: I mean I like the number a lot better. I'm 426 00:20:53,480 --> 00:20:56,960 Speaker 4: getting three hundred extra dollars. The Phillies were at plus 427 00:20:57,040 --> 00:21:00,760 Speaker 4: one thousand, and I like that, and the Mariners are 428 00:21:00,960 --> 00:21:03,879 Speaker 4: thirteen to one. And I disagree with you, Scott. You 429 00:21:03,920 --> 00:21:05,639 Speaker 4: said they have a top five minor league system and 430 00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:09,080 Speaker 4: that doesn't necessarily equate to wins in the big leagues. 431 00:21:09,920 --> 00:21:14,399 Speaker 4: Completely disagree. Because Brennan Donovan equates to wins in the 432 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:17,439 Speaker 4: big leagues, Katel Marte equates the wins in the big leagues. 433 00:21:17,880 --> 00:21:20,639 Speaker 4: That's your top five minor league system. You don't have 434 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:24,640 Speaker 4: to give Bryce Miller up for Brennan Donovan. I don't 435 00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,080 Speaker 4: think the Cardinals are at that situation now. If you're 436 00:21:28,119 --> 00:21:30,359 Speaker 4: going with the Diamondbacks, I think the Diamondbacks still believe 437 00:21:30,400 --> 00:21:34,000 Speaker 4: their window to win is now because of you know, 438 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,320 Speaker 4: where they're at with Corbyn Carroll, where they're at with 439 00:21:36,840 --> 00:21:39,240 Speaker 4: young guys coming up through the system, and they have 440 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 4: Corbyn Burns. So I think there's a difference in who 441 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:46,680 Speaker 4: you trade for, but the minor league system, if it 442 00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 4: nets Katel Marte or Brennan Donovan, that is immediate impact 443 00:21:53,000 --> 00:21:57,080 Speaker 4: and that number will only go down because you know, 444 00:21:57,240 --> 00:21:59,320 Speaker 4: you add a piece like that to a lineup that 445 00:21:59,520 --> 00:22:05,400 Speaker 4: was darving for offense and got Nailor and Aohennio Suarez 446 00:22:05,680 --> 00:22:09,920 Speaker 4: resigned Nailor for a whole season. 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