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Speaker 1: At least, he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and Matt

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Speaker 1: Williamson on your twenty four to seven Home of the

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Speaker 1: Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back to the Drive. I am Dale LOLLI

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Speaker 2: he is the Matt Williamson and uh well, it's time

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Speaker 2: for the Fantasy Football Focus here as we kick off

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Speaker 2: our number two and uh well, our DFS lineup once

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Speaker 2: again looking like it's going to be in the money

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Speaker 2: right now. We have one hundred and nineteen point six

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Speaker 2: points that puts us firmly in and right and we

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Speaker 2: still have Jean Robinson going tonight against the Raiders.

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Speaker 3: There are four teams playing the night, but we got

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Speaker 3: the best guy you want to play I think tonight.

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Speaker 2: I think so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah about Jefferson be nice and a couple of biking.

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Speaker 3: That being said, yeah, there was some pitfalls. I'm a

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Speaker 3: little shocked though.

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Speaker 2: We had some really good hits and we had we

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Speaker 2: had two zero's in our lineup. Yeah, that's one of

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Speaker 2: which was your pick. But it was Amari Cooper. Yeah

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Speaker 2: zero in a game in which there were ninety points scored. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: took a zero and.

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Speaker 3: He didn't get hurt. And if it wasn't Waddle getting

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Speaker 3: hurt in the first quarter and getting a zero.

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Speaker 2: He just took a zero.

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Speaker 3: Coleman came back, and Kaid came back, and everybody's flourished

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Speaker 3: but him. I'm Believa was shocked. Yeah, I was shocked.

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Speaker 2: So we paid fifty three hundred dollars for him, and

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Speaker 2: he was owned in twelve point three percent of lineup,

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Speaker 2: so it wasn't like we were the only ones that

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Speaker 2: used him. Yeah, he took a zero. We also took

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Speaker 2: a zero on the Browns defense twenty three point seven

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Speaker 2: percent ownership. Now, they were really cheap, but they took it.

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Speaker 2: At least it was just a zero and they didn't

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Speaker 2: cost us points.

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Speaker 3: Well, you lose the turnover differential by six six, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: I mean, I think we're lucky that that's only a zero. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: I might even show their defense played bad or the

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Speaker 3: Chief's played good.

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Speaker 2: They held on to twenty one points despite losing the

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Speaker 2: turnover battle six nothing, nothing like. That's not bad. And oh,

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Speaker 2: by the way, Miles Garrett basically got his eye gouge

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Speaker 2: real bad.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I mean, that's a different story, but

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Speaker 3: I don't know who defensive Player of the Year is

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Speaker 3: at the moment. I mean, I guess what helped his case.

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Speaker 2: He certainly didn't hurt his case.

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Speaker 3: And when he got hurt, I was when I was

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Speaker 3: thinking that. I'm like, oh no, if he gits a stretch,

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Speaker 3: who's going to win the thing. But if he's back,

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Speaker 3: I mean, maybe he can just run away with it.

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Speaker 3: The end.

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Speaker 2: He's up to eleven and a half sacks now, which

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Speaker 2: is which is third in the league. He's one sack

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Speaker 3: He's now gotten like that twenty sacks no or you

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Speaker 3: know historic numbers.

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Speaker 2: So he's now got more sacks than Garrett. He also

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Speaker 2: got his six force fumble yesterday, which leads the league

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Speaker 2: bile a margin. And he also now has I believe,

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Speaker 2: nineteen tackles for a loss. And remember sacks don't count

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Speaker 2: thirty and a half tackles behind the line of scrimmage.

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Speaker 3: Scrimmage, whether it's a quarterback or running back.

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Speaker 2: A wide receiver, whatever. That's a little impactful.

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Speaker 3: Another guy, though, is certained he got hurt yesterday.

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Speaker 3: He's got a little bit of a case.

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Speaker 3: he's taking the ball away. Their defense is getting better.

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Speaker 3: He has made a lot of impact.

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Speaker 2: He has seven interceptions, A lot of those came early.

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Speaker 3: They did right, But he's their Their defense is done

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Speaker 2: To him, but tougher defensive back to win it.

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Speaker 3: It is safety, don't win it very often else we have.

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Speaker 2: a hit ye thirty points, six points. He was only

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Speaker 3: That was kind of an enjoyable game. And that didn't

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Speaker 3: mean anything. But there was a lot going on there.

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Speaker 2: Well. And I wanted to start Amari Cooper. No you didn't, Yes,

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Speaker 3: why don't we just throw the ball to each other.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, let's play catch I'm the last time we had.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he went nuts. But that's all right because

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Speaker 2: we're in the money. We got Bijon going tonight with

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Speaker 3: Heard you didn't kill you. It didn't help you all

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Garrett Wilson owned in seven point nine percent of

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Speaker 2: Guy Stone smart.

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Speaker 2: six point eight percent of the people in. I mean

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Speaker 2: just steal. If they're gonna give him to you for

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Speaker 3: They can't run the ball at all, no, I mean,

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Speaker 2: All those picks you spent on offensive linemen, and.

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Speaker 2: And Herbert wasn't great yesterday either.

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Speaker 2: Uh, we had Jerry Judy in the lineup at sixty

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Speaker 2: two hundred is the flex play twenty four point eight points.

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Speaker 3: I don't know what to think of that team. You know, again,

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Speaker 2: So you know what's going to happen here. They're gonna

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Speaker 3: And it's just gonna kill everyone's fancy value and they're

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Speaker 2: I actually hope that happens this week because the guy

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Speaker 3: that I don't know what to do with that team

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Speaker 2: What you get? Uh so yeah we need uh well,

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Speaker 2: Robinson one hundred and nineteen points as respectable. Yeah, because

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Speaker 3: Because I'm sure the Allen owners are pretty happy once again.

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Speaker 2: But you really had to pay for that, true true, Yeah,

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Speaker 3: That's I mean, that was Yeah, that's that's the beauty.

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Speaker 2: Seven percent ownership. We went Aaron Rodgers and we got

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Speaker 2: Yea, and even like Judy was ten point five percent ownership,

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Speaker 2: Like that's that's where you really make your bones, like

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Speaker 2: finding those nuggets. Yeah, we took the zero with Amari

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Speaker 2: Cooper twelve twelve point three percent ownership. But if we'd

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I mean a couple of things. I think Judy's

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Speaker 3: next year in the second round of my redraft leagues

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Speaker 2: No, I'll let somebody else do that, I would imagine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but it just seemed like yesterday was a very

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Speaker 3: high scoring fantasy day across leagues.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I was shocked when we were still in it.

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Speaker 2: the Raiders tonight.

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Speaker 3: Some of them.

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Speaker 2: Twenty twenty is probably the floor. So we're gonna have

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Speaker 3: So I think he might be hanging out in the

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Speaker 2: But if that happens, he probably scored a couple of times. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: so we're in good shape there. Let's move on here

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Speaker 2: and take a look at this week's leaderboard. To your point,

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Speaker 2: here's the thing. All those points scored this weekend, there

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Speaker 2: were only two three hundred yard passers. Really, you had

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Speaker 2: Jared Goff at four ninety four with five touchdowns, threw

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Speaker 2: one game. Mac Jones had two ninety four, two touchdowns,

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Speaker 3: Nobody's starting Mac Jones wo. No, that's Brian Thomas numbers.

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Speaker 2: Lamar had two ninety and five touchdowns, but you expect

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Speaker 2: that at Lamar. He threw the ball twenty five times

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Speaker 2: more touchdown passes than he had incompletions.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Hurts had two ninety and two touchdowns, also ran

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Speaker 2: for one and Rogers had two eighty nine and three touchdowns.

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Speaker 2: So again that bang for the buck in terms of DFS.

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Speaker 2: That's that's where we're at. Baker Mayfield had two eighty

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Speaker 3: They just dominate him in the second half. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Burrow two seventy one and three touchdowns with two interceptions.

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Speaker 3: Daniels, the Mclaurin's a real thing though.

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Speaker 2: Like there's a massive gap there.

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Speaker 3: But to your point, there was two guys had a

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Speaker 2: James Connor sixteen for one ten, two touchdowns, having a

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Speaker 2: good year. Yeah, really good year. Kyron Williams twenty nine

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Speaker 3: Just never throw the backs.

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Speaker 2: Jonathan Taylor at twenty two for one oh seven didn't score.

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Speaker 2: And right now apparently so.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a great game. Good game.

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Speaker 3: Now Again, I don't think he'll be Foreman or one

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Speaker 3: It's a hard offensive count. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And then ramondre Stevenson thirteen for sixty nine and did

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Speaker 2: The receivers, well, we had ten eleven of those that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, seventy one yarder, a mon Ross Saint Brown, we

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Speaker 2: talked about him, fourteen for one, ninety three in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: six was it sixty six? Mike Evans nine for one

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Speaker 2: fifty nine and two touchdowns. He's been great Ceede Lamb

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Speaker 3: Pretty obvious. The Cooper rush can keep your guys fantasy relevant.

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Speaker 2: This is the one that was the most surprising. Ty

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Speaker 3: He's break free on one or something.

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Speaker 2: Or he had a thirty three yarder.

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Speaker 2: They're getting them. I kind of isolated on the linebackers

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Speaker 2: and just go run. Uh. Sam Laporta seven for one

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Speaker 3: He's been more and more relevant. Started a season slow,

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Speaker 3: but I would not give it. Hopefully he didn't give

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Speaker 2: Yeah. AJ Brown at eight for one ten in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: Jalen Coker four for one ten in the touchdown. He

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Speaker 3: Along one too. Yeah, but they like him a lot,

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Speaker 2: Davonte Smith at eleven for one oh nine in a touchdown.

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Speaker 2: That's the thing about this game. AJ Brown averaged thirteen

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Speaker 2: point eight yards per catch. His long game was twenty one.

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Speaker 2: DeVante Smith eleven for one oh nine. His long game

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Speaker 2: Like, you didn't you didn't allow the big long.

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Speaker 3: No, that game part of the goal. Yeah, and I

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Speaker 2: You know, it's all funneled through those two guys.

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Speaker 2: Jerry Judy eleven for one oh eight, did not score,

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Speaker 3: A lot of people kept him on their bench. Word

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Speaker 3: about Mac Jones, I think he's a start, no matter

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Speaker 3: what type of guy.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, look that some of the other guys. Chase said

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Speaker 3: I think guy's just a blip last week. Yeah, I

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Speaker 3: thinks so too much.

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride nine for eighty seven, of course, didn't score.

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Speaker 2: Didn't score. Ty J Spears six for eighty seven and

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Speaker 3: Him and Paulods flit, but he got all the receiving

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Speaker 2: It looks like I would you think they start making

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Speaker 3: Yes?

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Speaker 2: I do too.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they do.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jackson Smith and Jigba ten for eighty three every week. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: didn't score. Jamiir Gibbs had five for eighty three in

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Speaker 3: They're still gonna feed him even with bad quarterbacks.

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Speaker 2: Bateman had three for eighty and two scores. That's why

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Speaker 2: you're not starting that guy, just not there's not enough

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Speaker 3: I did it, you know, just starting in the stat

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Speaker 3: pack stuff I do. I mean they use him as

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Speaker 3: You know, I never thought of them that had him,

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Speaker 3: but he game my Yeah, I did more intermediate, but.

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Speaker 2: When you're you know, you're you're run.

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Speaker 3: He gets single coverage. They sent him deep and yeas

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Jaylen McMillan five for seventy five in a touchdown,

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Speaker 2: so to come on a little bit, Yeah, bocks are good.

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Speaker 2: Brenton Strange eleven for seventy three.

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Speaker 3: I probably would like to trade him now if the

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Speaker 2: His long catch was nine yards.

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Speaker 3: Mac Jones's showing us that he can keep people.

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Speaker 2: For he doesn't know how to throw to the tight ends,

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Speaker 2: because that's all we had in New England. H Terry

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Speaker 2: a lot of these guys we talked about it.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, they were good values.

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Speaker 2: We just settled on the wrong guy with Amary Cooper.

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Speaker 2: Calvin Austin five for sixty five.

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Speaker 3: I don't think he's fantasy relevant, but he's been in success.

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Speaker 2: weird team. Keon Coleman had won for sixty four. It

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Speaker 2: would have been nice to get that out of a

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Speaker 2: Justice Hill is a guy the Steelers are gonna have

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Speaker 3: I mean he plays all the time. He's kind of

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Speaker 2: Chig got eight for fifty nine.

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Speaker 3: Wow. I think that was all Rudolph. I mean just

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Speaker 3: my hunch, because Rudolph was pretty efficient. Yeah, Levis was all.

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Speaker 2: Levis was not efficient because that will never be a

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Speaker 2: word it's used with now Will Lewis. He's really been bad,

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Speaker 2: really bad. But that's your top performers this week. Again,

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Speaker 2: not a whole lot of new names on there. Some

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Speaker 3: Yeah, of some interest, but he's not gonna catch an

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Speaker 3: eighty yarder every year.

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Speaker 2: Every week, the question is are you gonna be able

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Speaker 2: to push that button on game day and say, yeah,

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Speaker 2: let's start him. Probably more of a DFS start.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I don't know that. There's I mean, as many

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Speaker 3: know it's tomorrow's project, but it's you know, my Motgomery

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Speaker 2: Again, this was the time of year. If you're your

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Speaker 2: opponent has one of those guys, block block block block. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: because it's all about winning this week and then moving

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Speaker 2: on to the next one. So good luck, hope you

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Speaker 2: hopefully you advanced in your in your playoff format.

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Speaker 3: Matt and I both had buys this week and were

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Speaker 3: the best two teams. That's right, because one of us,

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Speaker 3: our league mates, must not listen to the drive. One

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Speaker 3: of us finished first over all, the other one finished second.

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Speaker 3: I'm not going to tell you who that was but me.

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Speaker 3: Uh but I think I have more points than you though.

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Speaker 3: Who won our head to head match up.

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Speaker 2: Well, until we meet again. If you can get there,

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Speaker 2: you get the red hot team. I'm the red hot

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Speaker 2: you get the red hot team. You get the guy

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Speaker 2: that has Josh, you gotta play. That's the thing you

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Speaker 2: played Josh Allen this week. I get to play Lamar.

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Speaker 2: I like my matchup better against Lamar this.

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Speaker 3: Week, Like anyone better than Josh Allen dangerous.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, neither one of us drafted quarterbacks early.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I got Jaden Daniels and golfs it on the bench.

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Speaker 3: I got Jordan Love Yeah, but I don't worry about

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Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, anyways, good luck if if you make it

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Speaker 2: past that first round, that will do it for the

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Speaker 2: Fantasy football focus today. Let's get to a break. He

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Speaker 2: is Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening to

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Speaker 2: the Drive here on the Steelers Audio Network, Matt, and

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Speaker 2: I'll be back with more right after this.

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Speaker 1: And at least he's the Drive with Dale Lolly and

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Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Gold Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: And welcome back. I am Dale Lollly. He is the

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Speaker 2: Matt Williamson. And I don't want to say like I'm

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Speaker 2: the great Kreshkin here or something you know, or Karnak

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Speaker 2: or whatever, but Lamar Jackson goes out and just choose

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Speaker 2: up the giant.

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Speaker 3: This week.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, five touchdown passes, just does whatever they want

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Speaker 2: to do, and of course he jumps back in. Is

443
00:19:07,480 --> 00:19:11,240
Speaker 2: Lamar the MVP, or is Josh Allen the MVP? It's

444
00:19:11,280 --> 00:19:11,840
Speaker 2: Josh Allen.

445
00:19:11,960 --> 00:19:14,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I think Allen's running away with it. Yeah, last

446
00:19:14,640 --> 00:19:18,240
Speaker 3: two weeks have done Allen wonderful thing. Even in a loss.

447
00:19:19,240 --> 00:19:21,919
Speaker 2: The Steelers have an opportunity not only to win a

448
00:19:21,960 --> 00:19:25,760
Speaker 2: division on Sunday, but kind of end any talk of

449
00:19:25,800 --> 00:19:30,160
Speaker 2: a Lamar Jackson MVP if they go out and do

450
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:34,840
Speaker 2: what they've done consistently against Lamar Jackson. Just to remind

451
00:19:34,840 --> 00:19:39,159
Speaker 2: everybody earlier this season, what Lamar did against the Steelers. Yeah,

452
00:19:39,200 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 2: sixteen of thirty three for two hundred and seven yards,

453
00:19:42,960 --> 00:19:46,800
Speaker 2: one touchdown, one interception. They only sacked him twice, which

454
00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:50,199
Speaker 2: is actually, if you look at it, that's the lowest

455
00:19:50,280 --> 00:19:53,720
Speaker 2: amount of sacks that he's had on him against. In

456
00:19:53,760 --> 00:19:56,840
Speaker 2: this game against the Steelers that he started, it's been

457
00:19:56,960 --> 00:20:01,880
Speaker 2: five for seven and two. They averaged getting to him

458
00:20:01,880 --> 00:20:04,480
Speaker 2: three point one times, and that's including a game where

459
00:20:04,480 --> 00:20:08,879
Speaker 2: he only threw one pass because he was the backup

460
00:20:08,960 --> 00:20:11,119
Speaker 2: quarterback at the time. They just used him as a

461
00:20:12,160 --> 00:20:14,280
Speaker 2: So really it's it's more like four sacks per game

462
00:20:15,040 --> 00:20:18,960
Speaker 2: with him, Yeah, in five starts. It's actually it's twenty

463
00:20:18,960 --> 00:20:21,760
Speaker 2: two sacks and five starts that he is he's one

464
00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:22,160
Speaker 2: and four.

465
00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:27,560
Speaker 3: Yeah, there's obviously something to that. I mean, I think

466
00:20:27,560 --> 00:20:30,680
Speaker 3: that the familiarity the pass rush plan that I can't

467
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,320
Speaker 3: harp on enough, I think is really really important. And

468
00:20:34,359 --> 00:20:39,000
Speaker 3: I know that this pass game was recent, but he's

469
00:20:39,080 --> 00:20:41,919
Speaker 3: way better from the pocket than he's ever been, and.

470
00:20:41,840 --> 00:20:44,080
Speaker 2: You would think that would translate, and it just hasn't.

471
00:20:44,160 --> 00:20:47,040
Speaker 3: It didn't this. I mean just even I know he

472
00:20:47,080 --> 00:20:49,320
Speaker 3: won the MVP last year, but he's a much better

473
00:20:49,359 --> 00:20:53,720
Speaker 3: passer this year than he was last year. And I

474
00:20:53,760 --> 00:20:56,479
Speaker 3: still think you take the same approach on him. I mean,

475
00:20:56,520 --> 00:20:58,320
Speaker 3: why he shows you he can beat it, why would

476
00:20:58,359 --> 00:21:02,120
Speaker 3: you differ? Of course, But I think he's more equipped

477
00:21:02,119 --> 00:21:04,840
Speaker 3: to beat it than ever because he throws really well

478
00:21:04,840 --> 00:21:07,520
Speaker 3: and he's got good weapons. But I don't know if

479
00:21:07,520 --> 00:21:09,680
Speaker 3: it's in his head, Is it a fluke, is it's

480
00:21:09,840 --> 00:21:12,560
Speaker 3: you know what the deal is, because he's a tremendous

481
00:21:12,560 --> 00:21:15,520
Speaker 3: football player that should be right in the MVP race.

482
00:21:15,560 --> 00:21:18,159
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no doubt about it. Allen's better this

483
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,680
Speaker 3: year in terms of MVP potential to me, but he'd

484
00:21:22,680 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 3: be number two.

485
00:21:23,960 --> 00:21:29,320
Speaker 2: Yeah. Mike Tomlin was asked about you know about well,

486
00:21:29,520 --> 00:21:31,720
Speaker 2: you know Lamar has struggled against you, guys, what have

487
00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,360
Speaker 2: you done to make Lamar struggle? Like, first of all,

488
00:21:34,359 --> 00:21:36,280
Speaker 2: like he's going to say, well, here's what we've done.

489
00:21:36,200 --> 00:21:38,440
Speaker 3: But he's got descryptinite. I'm gonna tell the whole world

490
00:21:38,440 --> 00:21:38,720
Speaker 3: about it.

491
00:21:38,760 --> 00:21:41,639
Speaker 2: Right, The Ravens know what he's done. Yeah, he said

492
00:21:41,359 --> 00:21:44,400
Speaker 2: they would be better equipped to answer that question than

493
00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,840
Speaker 2: I am. But there are obviously some things that they

494
00:21:47,840 --> 00:21:52,200
Speaker 2: have done schematically, yes, that have bothered Lamar Jackson, Yes,

495
00:21:52,600 --> 00:21:58,000
Speaker 2: and two of those things might be TJ. Watt, Cam Hayward.

496
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,040
Speaker 3: I would say, I think has a lot to do

497
00:22:00,080 --> 00:22:04,840
Speaker 3: with yeah, in terms of just finding lanes, making him,

498
00:22:04,960 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 3: you know, pat the football a second longer than he

499
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,640
Speaker 3: wants to, things like that. I mean, I think it's

500
00:22:09,720 --> 00:22:13,800
Speaker 3: more the D line and coverages than coverages, not that

501
00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,200
Speaker 3: they don't have an idea of what he's looking at

502
00:22:16,200 --> 00:22:18,600
Speaker 3: and all those things too, But I do think it's

503
00:22:18,640 --> 00:22:22,680
Speaker 3: definitely a Tomlin strength that doesn't get talked about enough.

504
00:22:22,800 --> 00:22:26,480
Speaker 3: Is the more he plays against you, the less advantage

505
00:22:26,480 --> 00:22:28,960
Speaker 3: you have, you know, what I mean, Like, I know

506
00:22:29,000 --> 00:22:31,600
Speaker 3: they lost the Eagles, but if they played them ten times,

507
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:35,080
Speaker 3: I think it can they get better? Better? Better? You

508
00:22:35,119 --> 00:22:37,000
Speaker 3: know what I mean. I think there's something to be

509
00:22:37,000 --> 00:22:40,360
Speaker 3: said for that. And you know, knowing the division has

510
00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:43,320
Speaker 3: always been a strength of this organization for decades.

511
00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,800
Speaker 2: The most yards that Lamar Jackson has thrown for against

512
00:22:46,800 --> 00:22:50,560
Speaker 2: the Steelers is two hundred and fifty three yards. His

513
00:22:50,680 --> 00:22:53,320
Speaker 2: best rating in a game in which he has started

514
00:22:53,320 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: and finished is that is that game eighty point one.

515
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:59,800
Speaker 2: If you look at these passer ratings in the other starts,

516
00:23:00,119 --> 00:23:04,040
Speaker 2: fifty four point nine, sixty five point eight, eighty point one,

517
00:23:04,119 --> 00:23:07,320
Speaker 2: sixty five point two, and sixty six point one. So

518
00:23:07,440 --> 00:23:10,040
Speaker 2: his career passer rating against the Steelers is sixty six

519
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:10,720
Speaker 2: point seven.

520
00:23:11,160 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's amazing.

521
00:23:12,040 --> 00:23:14,320
Speaker 2: I mean, this is a guy who is leading the

522
00:23:14,359 --> 00:23:17,000
Speaker 2: league and pass he's almost almost twice that this year.

523
00:23:17,160 --> 00:23:19,440
Speaker 3: Right, I don't say that would be a terrible game

524
00:23:19,440 --> 00:23:21,760
Speaker 3: for him nowadays, you know there's the average of all well,

525
00:23:21,760 --> 00:23:23,199
Speaker 3: and it was a terrible game, and it was a

526
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,080
Speaker 3: terrible game for him, Right, I don't know. I mean,

527
00:23:26,600 --> 00:23:30,160
Speaker 3: I'm not saying it's not not sustainable, because clearly it is,

528
00:23:30,280 --> 00:23:33,280
Speaker 3: and they are really well equipped to play against him,

529
00:23:33,520 --> 00:23:37,720
Speaker 3: and frankly go in and getting Patrick Queen and Elliott

530
00:23:37,760 --> 00:23:40,439
Speaker 3: not because they're former Ravens, but because they handle the

531
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,239
Speaker 3: middle of the field and they run well and they

532
00:23:42,320 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 3: understand how to get him on the ground has a

533
00:23:44,840 --> 00:23:47,520
Speaker 3: lot of value as well. I mean, teams in the

534
00:23:47,560 --> 00:23:50,080
Speaker 3: division do things to deal with the Steelers, and the

535
00:23:50,080 --> 00:23:52,320
Speaker 3: Steelers are doing things to deal with Lamar. He's scary.

536
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:56,280
Speaker 3: I mean, you know the hard knocks thing, Well, Orlando

537
00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:00,560
Speaker 3: Brown's there because Heismith's destroying the left tackle. Yeah, I

538
00:24:00,600 --> 00:24:02,320
Speaker 3: don't want to do that. That happened twice a year.

539
00:24:04,080 --> 00:24:06,240
Speaker 3: I hope it keeps up. But part of me thinks,

540
00:24:06,240 --> 00:24:09,280
Speaker 3: at some point, at some point, he's gonna he's gonna

541
00:24:09,359 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 3: have a good game against Right, So he's not gonna

542
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: go a decade without ever having a good game against Steelers.

543
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:16,480
Speaker 3: I mean, there's no chance that's gonna happen.

544
00:24:16,560 --> 00:24:19,760
Speaker 2: But he's not a good game for him against the Steelers.

545
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:22,160
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not like the Giants game.

546
00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:25,080
Speaker 2: It's not gonna be five touchdowns and no interceptions or anything.

547
00:24:24,800 --> 00:24:27,000
Speaker 3: Like more incompletions or something like that, right, I mean,

548
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:30,040
Speaker 3: it's not gonna be a walk in the park. I

549
00:24:30,080 --> 00:24:31,880
Speaker 3: don't know what to make of it. Yeah, I really

550
00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:32,320
Speaker 3: don't know.

551
00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:36,720
Speaker 2: It's one of the more interesting it is situations that

552
00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:39,360
Speaker 2: I can think of in pro sports today. Yeah, yeah,

553
00:24:39,400 --> 00:24:42,399
Speaker 2: regardless of you know, this team for whatever reason just

554
00:24:42,480 --> 00:24:44,040
Speaker 2: has this guy's number. Mm hmm.

555
00:24:44,480 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 3: It's funny and I should know the conversation better and

556
00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,560
Speaker 3: maybe you can remember it. But I just did a

557
00:24:49,640 --> 00:24:52,560
Speaker 3: hit with Mark Madden and I was walking out of

558
00:24:51,960 --> 00:24:54,520
Speaker 3: the office with him when we were just talking about

559
00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:58,320
Speaker 3: the coming thing off the air, and he said his

560
00:24:58,400 --> 00:25:00,480
Speaker 3: mom was a huge tennis fan when grow up. They'd

561
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 3: always watched McEnroe and Borg and all those guys. And

562
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:05,800
Speaker 3: I forget who the other great player was that was

563
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,399
Speaker 3: really good friends with McEnroe. But McEnroe beat him like

564
00:25:08,480 --> 00:25:12,240
Speaker 3: sixteen times in a row, and he was comparing to

565
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:17,440
Speaker 3: the Steelers and Lamar and I guess in match number seventeen,

566
00:25:18,200 --> 00:25:21,600
Speaker 3: this guy finally beats McEnroe and they interview him and

567
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:24,240
Speaker 3: he's like, you know, no one beats me seventeen times

568
00:25:24,240 --> 00:25:26,720
Speaker 3: in a row. This totally makes a joke out of it,

569
00:25:26,800 --> 00:25:28,359
Speaker 3: you know, it could crack me up, you know, but

570
00:25:28,800 --> 00:25:30,440
Speaker 3: I don't think it's going to get to that degree.

571
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:34,200
Speaker 3: But there's certainly a styles make fight thing in sports

572
00:25:34,280 --> 00:25:37,280
Speaker 3: where I got your number, but this guy's got my

573
00:25:37,359 --> 00:25:39,640
Speaker 3: number or whatever it is, you know, and I right

574
00:25:39,680 --> 00:25:41,720
Speaker 3: now they have him figured out. Yeah.

575
00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:47,000
Speaker 2: He has five touchdown passes and eight interceptions against the Steelers,

576
00:25:48,440 --> 00:25:48,840
Speaker 2: he has.

577
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 3: I mean, if he minus those off his career totals,

578
00:25:51,840 --> 00:25:53,600
Speaker 3: it's insanely different. Yeah. Right.

579
00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,520
Speaker 2: He also has eight interceptions against the Browns, who have

580
00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,000
Speaker 2: He's seven and five in his career against the Browns

581
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:02,440
Speaker 2: as a starter, know that, but he started twelve games

582
00:26:02,440 --> 00:26:05,480
Speaker 2: against him. He's only started six against the Steelers.

583
00:26:06,040 --> 00:26:08,359
Speaker 3: There is a small sample sized thing here, but you know,

584
00:26:08,520 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 3: against them.

585
00:26:09,440 --> 00:26:12,080
Speaker 2: Against the Bengals, he's throwing twenty two touchdown passes and

586
00:26:12,119 --> 00:26:13,080
Speaker 2: four interceptions.

587
00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 3: And I always think of those games being first rate,

588
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 3: first one to thirty two. You know. I definitely think Harbaugh,

589
00:26:19,520 --> 00:26:24,040
Speaker 3: I said this couple weeks ago, prepares for the Steelers

590
00:26:25,520 --> 00:26:27,600
Speaker 3: way different than he does the Bengals. Yeah, you know,

591
00:26:27,760 --> 00:26:30,080
Speaker 3: and I think some of it's uh, I know that,

592
00:26:30,119 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 3: you know that, I know that, you know, you know

593
00:26:31,840 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 3: the type of thing where if we get the twenty

594
00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,840
Speaker 3: against Steelers we're gonna win. We get the forty against

595
00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 3: the Bengals to win, you know, just a totally different

596
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:42,960
Speaker 3: mindset of maybe we should fake a punt here or

597
00:26:42,960 --> 00:26:45,400
Speaker 3: something like that that we don't usually do and since

598
00:26:45,400 --> 00:26:47,360
Speaker 3: the game or we got to play it really close

599
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:48,760
Speaker 3: to the vest against the Steelers.

600
00:26:48,760 --> 00:26:52,360
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know. The thing is, it's intriguing though.

601
00:26:52,400 --> 00:26:55,320
Speaker 2: It really is interesting to me. Now the Browns have

602
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:59,520
Speaker 2: sacked him more. He's been sacked twenty seven times on

603
00:26:59,560 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 2: two hundred sixty four pass attempts. The Steelers have gotten

604
00:27:03,720 --> 00:27:06,400
Speaker 2: to him twenty two times one hundred and sixty five.

605
00:27:06,400 --> 00:27:08,760
Speaker 2: Thrown a lot more against Yeah, right, you know so,

606
00:27:08,920 --> 00:27:11,960
Speaker 2: and by far those are Yeah, those are by far

607
00:27:12,160 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: the most that any team has gotten to him. The Chiefs.

608
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,040
Speaker 2: The Chiefs have gotten to him on one hundred and

609
00:27:17,080 --> 00:27:19,400
Speaker 2: sixty two pass stems. So it's very similar to the Steelers.

610
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:20,720
Speaker 2: Steelers one sixty five.

611
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:26,879
Speaker 3: Yeah, eleven times, it's half as much as the Steelers have,

612
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 3: so they get to him. Yeah, And I just maybe

613
00:27:31,000 --> 00:27:33,280
Speaker 3: he just sees the rush more against the Steelers because

614
00:27:33,320 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 3: they do get to him. Maybe maybe there's a tendency

615
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:38,720
Speaker 3: that Tomlin will never tell us until he's on his

616
00:27:38,760 --> 00:27:41,960
Speaker 3: deathbed type of thing that he always looks left and

617
00:27:42,000 --> 00:27:44,280
Speaker 3: then he goes right to Hayward or whatever it is.

618
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,040
Speaker 3: I mean, there must be we just take Andrew, we

619
00:27:46,040 --> 00:27:48,479
Speaker 3: take there will be Away, We take Andrews away and

620
00:27:48,920 --> 00:27:52,200
Speaker 3: you know, so that's not there and then yeah. Yeah,

621
00:27:52,359 --> 00:27:54,400
Speaker 3: But there's been a couple of different coordinators for them.

622
00:27:54,400 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 3: I mean, it's not just Tomlin against same OC. But

623
00:27:58,800 --> 00:28:02,880
Speaker 3: maybe there's just obvious things like we have a really

624
00:28:02,920 --> 00:28:05,720
Speaker 3: good feel for who their first read player is, you know,

625
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:06,880
Speaker 3: and down and distance.

626
00:28:07,600 --> 00:28:09,000
Speaker 2: But it's been different coordinators.

627
00:28:09,000 --> 00:28:11,800
Speaker 3: It's different coordinators, right, I mean it is. If we

628
00:28:11,840 --> 00:28:14,760
Speaker 3: could take Andrews away as a first read all the time,

629
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:18,080
Speaker 3: there's a pretty high percentage that he's gonna have to

630
00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:20,520
Speaker 3: pack the ball and then go outside. I'm I'm making

631
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:23,080
Speaker 3: stuff up. I'm just trying to you'd have to study

632
00:28:23,080 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: the tape and play against them like the Steelers have

633
00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:26,440
Speaker 3: year after year after year.

634
00:28:27,040 --> 00:28:28,000
Speaker 2: It's really strange.

635
00:28:28,080 --> 00:28:30,640
Speaker 3: It is now, I will say so, but it's wonderful.

636
00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:31,600
Speaker 3: I mean, it's impressive.

637
00:28:31,680 --> 00:28:36,560
Speaker 2: Right if you look at what Baltimore has done basically

638
00:28:36,600 --> 00:28:39,680
Speaker 2: since that game against the Bengals, the Steelers game being

639
00:28:39,760 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 2: part of that. They gave up four hundred and seventy

640
00:28:42,920 --> 00:28:46,160
Speaker 2: yards in that game against the Bengals. They brought in

641
00:28:46,240 --> 00:28:51,120
Speaker 2: Dean ps as a defensive senior assistant or whatever.

642
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,360
Speaker 3: He used to be on staff way back.

643
00:28:52,360 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, he was their defensive coordinator. He's kind of

644
00:28:54,640 --> 00:28:57,239
Speaker 2: retired down they bring him back. So they give up

645
00:28:57,240 --> 00:28:59,959
Speaker 2: three hundred and three yards to the Steelers to eighty five.

646
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,719
Speaker 2: The Chargers two fifty two to the Eagles in that game. Now,

647
00:29:03,720 --> 00:29:07,280
Speaker 2: the Eagles were winning handily and they're they're more than

648
00:29:07,280 --> 00:29:09,800
Speaker 2: happy at that point. Yeah, nd around, that one ended

649
00:29:09,880 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 2: up twenty four to nineteen. It wasn't really that close,

650
00:29:13,800 --> 00:29:17,240
Speaker 2: and they gave up two thirty six to the Giants

651
00:29:17,240 --> 00:29:20,560
Speaker 2: on Sunday. So the numbers have kind of switched a

652
00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 2: little bit for them since they brought Pea's back, and

653
00:29:22,520 --> 00:29:24,880
Speaker 2: they're they're they're playing as they did that at that point,

654
00:29:25,040 --> 00:29:26,760
Speaker 2: better defensively than they had been.

655
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think they're blowing fewer coverages too. Like, I mean,

656
00:29:29,880 --> 00:29:32,520
Speaker 3: that was a big problem was just the communication on

657
00:29:32,560 --> 00:29:33,160
Speaker 3: the back end.

658
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,959
Speaker 2: They've also put Hamilton basically, you're not the free safety, Like,

659
00:29:37,000 --> 00:29:40,000
Speaker 2: we can't we can't keep giving up wrong pass after

660
00:29:40,080 --> 00:29:40,560
Speaker 2: long pass.

661
00:29:40,600 --> 00:29:42,560
Speaker 3: I mean in a way, he's their Menca. Like I

662
00:29:42,800 --> 00:29:44,960
Speaker 3: last year I wrote an article about how Menca is

663
00:29:45,080 --> 00:29:47,800
Speaker 3: just putting out fires left and right. You know, something's

664
00:29:47,800 --> 00:29:49,600
Speaker 3: going wrong. We can't stop tight ends. Make of, that's

665
00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,400
Speaker 3: your job. We need to cover two safeties. Make of

666
00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:55,120
Speaker 3: that's your job. You got to play someone near the box,

667
00:29:55,120 --> 00:29:57,160
Speaker 3: that's your job. So I mean, now that's Hamilton. I

668
00:29:57,160 --> 00:29:59,480
Speaker 3: mean that's a beauty of having a versatile star safety

669
00:29:59,560 --> 00:30:03,120
Speaker 3: like that. I also think like the O waves of

670
00:30:03,120 --> 00:30:05,080
Speaker 3: the world are getting better too, They're getting a little

671
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 3: bit better pass rush. I'm interested to study him. I

672
00:30:08,120 --> 00:30:10,400
Speaker 3: mean it's only day one. I'm still kind of recovering.

673
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:13,800
Speaker 3: But what's changed over the last couple of weeks. But boy,

674
00:30:13,880 --> 00:30:16,040
Speaker 3: going into the last game was a lot of blown

675
00:30:16,080 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: cover a lot of blown coverages. To your point, Marcus

676
00:30:18,360 --> 00:30:20,200
Speaker 3: Williams the free safety, he's.

677
00:30:21,280 --> 00:30:23,600
Speaker 2: Eddie Jackson bench. Yeah, like they've they've got some of

678
00:30:23,600 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 2: those guys out of there.

679
00:30:24,520 --> 00:30:26,360
Speaker 3: Who's might not be in the league next year that

680
00:30:26,400 --> 00:30:28,640
Speaker 3: have had good careers, you know that probably hit the

681
00:30:28,640 --> 00:30:30,080
Speaker 3: wall before they expected them to.

682
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,560
Speaker 2: And that's always been something that the Ravens have done

683
00:30:33,040 --> 00:30:36,000
Speaker 2: over the years. They always they always had these ten

684
00:30:36,080 --> 00:30:38,000
Speaker 2: year veteran guys in the on the back end of

685
00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,920
Speaker 2: the Weddeles the Woods guy that too, right, and just

686
00:30:42,080 --> 00:30:43,320
Speaker 2: it just didn't work out this year.

687
00:30:43,440 --> 00:30:46,240
Speaker 3: No, it didn't. And I don't know that Simpson was

688
00:30:46,280 --> 00:30:48,600
Speaker 3: a one for one for Queen either. You know, I

689
00:30:48,640 --> 00:30:50,720
Speaker 3: definitely was not. Yeah, to be honest, I mean he's

690
00:30:50,720 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: still learning. You know, he bites on play action and

691
00:30:53,080 --> 00:30:55,080
Speaker 3: you know, runs the wrong way sometimes and stuff.

692
00:30:55,360 --> 00:30:57,640
Speaker 2: But you look at their offense and it hasn't been

693
00:30:58,000 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: as explosive over that same period, So I think they've

694
00:31:01,040 --> 00:31:04,840
Speaker 2: kind of Yesterday it was, but you played a really

695
00:31:04,880 --> 00:31:06,080
Speaker 2: bad Giants team.

696
00:31:06,080 --> 00:31:07,440
Speaker 3: And Henry slowed down a little bit.

697
00:31:07,480 --> 00:31:10,640
Speaker 2: Lately, it really slowed down. But if you look at

698
00:31:10,640 --> 00:31:14,200
Speaker 2: their point out put sixteen against the Steelers, they scored

699
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,600
Speaker 2: thirty against the Chargers, nineteen against the Eagles, and thirty

700
00:31:17,600 --> 00:31:21,680
Speaker 2: five yesterday, So it's not the thirty five, forty one

701
00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:23,840
Speaker 2: thirty forty one that they were. You know, they scored

702
00:31:23,880 --> 00:31:25,320
Speaker 2: forty one three times this year.

703
00:31:25,480 --> 00:31:29,920
Speaker 3: Like leading into Steelers Ravens Part one, I was pretty

704
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:31,640
Speaker 3: confident that was the best offense in the league. It

705
00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:33,360
Speaker 3: was like them an alliance. You know, like you can

706
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:34,680
Speaker 3: fight back and forth.

707
00:31:35,080 --> 00:31:36,200
Speaker 2: Now, I don't think it's close.

708
00:31:36,480 --> 00:31:38,840
Speaker 3: I don't either. I mean it's still really good and

709
00:31:38,880 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 3: they're dangerous, and lighting up the Giants doesn't change my

710
00:31:42,040 --> 00:31:43,800
Speaker 3: opinion at all. I mean everyone could see that coming.

711
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:47,160
Speaker 3: They are good, but I don't think they run the

712
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:48,960
Speaker 3: ball as much or.

713
00:31:48,920 --> 00:31:49,960
Speaker 2: As well as well.

714
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:52,880
Speaker 3: I think they can get Henry slowed down a little

715
00:31:52,880 --> 00:31:57,000
Speaker 3: bit more behind the line of scrimmage. They're they're intriguing.

716
00:31:57,120 --> 00:31:59,240
Speaker 3: I I'm real excited to dig into them throughout.

717
00:31:59,320 --> 00:32:01,040
Speaker 2: I still think the offensive line is a bit of

718
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:01,400
Speaker 2: an issue.

719
00:32:01,440 --> 00:32:03,920
Speaker 3: I think it's okay, not great. That's any line that

720
00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:07,640
Speaker 3: includes yeah, yeah, I think Gary of guard problems. Yeah,

721
00:32:08,000 --> 00:32:11,360
Speaker 3: McCarry at the other like the two guards, Pile and McCarry,

722
00:32:12,800 --> 00:32:13,520
Speaker 3: they're not great.

723
00:32:13,520 --> 00:32:14,080
Speaker 2: They're not great.

724
00:32:14,160 --> 00:32:15,160
Speaker 3: Vorhees wasn't great.

725
00:32:15,320 --> 00:32:17,880
Speaker 2: Like Hayward against McCarry is, oh no, that's.

726
00:32:17,800 --> 00:32:20,920
Speaker 3: Gonna be a big brain. Anyone against should be all right. Yeah.

727
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:24,400
Speaker 3: I also think the right tackle is gonna be a problem, yeah, without.

728
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,120
Speaker 2: Question, And maybe that's maybe that's the issue because when

729
00:32:29,120 --> 00:32:32,600
Speaker 2: you play the Steelers, you know, you gotta you got

730
00:32:32,720 --> 00:32:34,440
Speaker 2: you have to chip T. J. Watt, you have to

731
00:32:34,480 --> 00:32:35,440
Speaker 2: constantly do it.

732
00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: I wonder if it's a right tackle left guard problem,

733
00:32:39,760 --> 00:32:40,800
Speaker 3: maybe it might be as simple.

734
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:41,720
Speaker 2: Might be as simple as that.

735
00:32:41,760 --> 00:32:43,480
Speaker 3: It might be as simple as that that you're not

736
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: strong enough at right tackle and left guard.

737
00:32:46,120 --> 00:32:48,080
Speaker 2: Deal with those consistently. Deal with those guys.

738
00:32:48,200 --> 00:32:50,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, it might be that simple, because they haven't been great.

739
00:32:50,840 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 3: Morgan Moses was more of a run block or two

740
00:32:52,800 --> 00:32:55,040
Speaker 3: and yeah, and they shipped them out for nothing. You know,

741
00:32:55,080 --> 00:32:58,280
Speaker 3: I just trying to think other guys in the past. Yeah,

742
00:32:58,280 --> 00:33:01,120
Speaker 3: maybe that's part of it. Part of it, Oh, there's.

743
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:03,040
Speaker 2: No doubt is part I mean, that's part of you know,

744
00:33:03,080 --> 00:33:05,320
Speaker 2: what gives the Steelers an opportunity to win every week.

745
00:33:06,120 --> 00:33:08,280
Speaker 2: And the interesting thing about the other interesting thing about

746
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:11,800
Speaker 2: this one is that the Steelers didn't have Alex high

747
00:33:11,800 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 2: Smith the last time, and.

748
00:33:14,840 --> 00:33:18,000
Speaker 3: That's definitely a boost. Yeah, I mean, now, as impressive

749
00:33:18,000 --> 00:33:22,040
Speaker 3: as her Big is, high Smith's a different breed. I mean,

750
00:33:22,040 --> 00:33:25,160
Speaker 3: he's more of a pounds heavier or whatever it is

751
00:33:25,200 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 3: he plays.

752
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:27,840
Speaker 2: He really sets the edge well.

753
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and I really like her Big, But the last

754
00:33:30,280 --> 00:33:32,640
Speaker 3: two weeks he's been kind of quiet by his standards too.

755
00:33:32,640 --> 00:33:35,240
Speaker 3: He's he's not going to have the highest wind not

756
00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 3: fresh wind rate in the league. You know, the kind

757
00:33:37,480 --> 00:33:41,600
Speaker 3: of stuff he was doing. So having him as a

758
00:33:41,600 --> 00:33:44,640
Speaker 3: part time player, I think goes a long way. I

759
00:33:44,680 --> 00:33:46,600
Speaker 3: don't know. I mean, it's going to be a heck

760
00:33:46,600 --> 00:33:47,560
Speaker 3: of a matchup.

761
00:33:47,360 --> 00:33:50,960
Speaker 2: It really is. And I wonder for this one. We've

762
00:33:50,960 --> 00:33:53,160
Speaker 2: seen it when they when when high Smith was a rookie,

763
00:33:53,160 --> 00:33:56,479
Speaker 2: for example, and it was it was Watt and Dupree. Yeah,

764
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: when they played the Ravens, they used the three of

765
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,000
Speaker 2: them at the same time a lot.

766
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, Yeah, that's what the experiment with that. Yeah,

767
00:34:04,880 --> 00:34:06,719
Speaker 3: I would have no problem with it. I mean they

768
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:09,319
Speaker 3: have flirted with it here and there a little bit.

769
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:10,839
Speaker 3: One of the issues though, is you got to pull

770
00:34:10,880 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 3: another good player off that has a defined position. Does

771
00:34:13,960 --> 00:34:18,560
Speaker 3: that mean Benton's on the sideline or Queen or you know,

772
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:20,960
Speaker 3: one of your other off the ball linebackers that are

773
00:34:20,960 --> 00:34:22,879
Speaker 3: doing well on their own.

774
00:34:22,920 --> 00:34:25,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't have a problem taking a defensive lineman

775
00:34:25,800 --> 00:34:28,920
Speaker 2: off the field necessarily, as long as Henry's not in

776
00:34:28,920 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 2: the game.

777
00:34:30,160 --> 00:34:33,520
Speaker 3: And it's Henry following Ricard, that's a problem, you know, right.

778
00:34:33,560 --> 00:34:36,560
Speaker 2: That's the problem that the Ravens offense has with Henry

779
00:34:36,560 --> 00:34:38,560
Speaker 2: and this it's no knock on Henry.

780
00:34:39,239 --> 00:34:42,240
Speaker 3: He's a certain type of back to me, that's why he's.

781
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,279
Speaker 2: Never out there on third down right right, And so

782
00:34:44,600 --> 00:34:46,960
Speaker 2: you know if you get ahead where they get into

783
00:34:46,960 --> 00:34:49,120
Speaker 2: a hurry up or a two minute situation, you know,

784
00:34:49,200 --> 00:34:50,720
Speaker 2: you know he's just not out there.

785
00:34:51,000 --> 00:34:54,120
Speaker 3: He's phenomenal. He's got a bunch of milestones that he's

786
00:34:54,160 --> 00:34:56,239
Speaker 3: going to set against the Steelers. Like he's about to

787
00:34:56,400 --> 00:34:59,040
Speaker 3: hit his fifteen hundred for the third time in his career,

788
00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 3: or fourth time in his career. He's about to he's

789
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,880
Speaker 3: like one carry away from passing John Riggins on for

790
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:07,960
Speaker 3: seventh all time, or he's about the eleven thousand yards.

791
00:35:08,239 --> 00:35:10,640
Speaker 3: So he's gonna set a bunch of milestones this weekend.

792
00:35:11,200 --> 00:35:14,400
Speaker 3: And I think he's phenomenal. But it also didn't shock

793
00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:17,520
Speaker 3: me as much as people in hindsight. How could you

794
00:35:17,600 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 3: let him go to the Ravens when he was a

795
00:35:18,880 --> 00:35:22,120
Speaker 3: free agent because you have to restructure everything for him,

796
00:35:22,400 --> 00:35:24,279
Speaker 3: and he's not young and you may only get him

797
00:35:24,320 --> 00:35:27,319
Speaker 3: for a year. Now. Of course Dallas probably looks at

798
00:35:27,360 --> 00:35:30,440
Speaker 3: it like, yeah, we was just signed. But he's a

799
00:35:30,440 --> 00:35:33,200
Speaker 3: certain type of player you can take Barkley and throw

800
00:35:33,280 --> 00:35:35,960
Speaker 3: him in any It doesn't matter, McCaffrey, throw him in

801
00:35:35,960 --> 00:35:39,920
Speaker 3: any offense. You got to dedicate yourself to being a

802
00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:43,560
Speaker 3: Henry offense and it's nine to ten times is great,

803
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:49,600
Speaker 3: But throwing downs are an issue and he needs Greg

804
00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:51,680
Speaker 3: Cosel calls him a track runner, you know, like he's

805
00:35:51,680 --> 00:35:54,120
Speaker 3: on a train track, you know, like you get him

806
00:35:54,160 --> 00:35:56,400
Speaker 3: on that track and look out. But it's not easy

807
00:35:56,400 --> 00:35:58,400
Speaker 3: to open the lane for the track, you know.

808
00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,799
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so interesting. Let's get to another break. He

809
00:36:03,040 --> 00:36:05,920
Speaker 2: is the Matt Williamson. I am Dale Lolly. You're listening

810
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:08,719
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811
00:36:08,760 --> 00:36:11,279
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812
00:36:11,280 --> 00:36:13,399
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813
00:36:13,520 --> 00:36:16,560
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814
00:36:16,600 --> 00:36:19,040
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815
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:22,480
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816
00:36:22,520 --> 00:36:24,920
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817
00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:27,879
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818
00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:30,879
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819
00:36:30,920 --> 00:36:32,600
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820
00:36:37,160 --> 00:36:39,759
Speaker 1: At least he is the Drive with Dale Lolly and

821
00:36:39,840 --> 00:36:42,880
Speaker 1: Matt Williamson on your twenty four to seven, Home of

822
00:36:42,920 --> 00:36:49,040
Speaker 1: the Black and Gold cast in Steelers Nation Radio, and

823
00:36:49,320 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 1: we are back.

824
00:36:50,120 --> 00:36:53,520
Speaker 2: I am Dale, Lolly. He is the Matt Williamson and

825
00:36:53,560 --> 00:36:56,719
Speaker 2: the Matt you brought up, Barbara on the subject of

826
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:02,480
Speaker 2: the Ravens, the Derrick Henry situation. Here last two weeks,

827
00:37:02,480 --> 00:37:04,840
Speaker 2: eighteen for eighty four, thirteen for forty six.

828
00:37:05,680 --> 00:37:06,399
Speaker 3: He's a gut in front.

829
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,000
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. That was the beginning of the year. Actually,

830
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:11,160
Speaker 2: it's been fourteen for sixty seven, nineteen for eighty two.

831
00:37:11,800 --> 00:37:14,680
Speaker 2: Remember the Steelers held him to sixty five on thirty

832
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,080
Speaker 2: on thirteen carries. So his last four of his last

833
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:21,760
Speaker 2: five games sixty eight sixty five, he had won forty

834
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:24,800
Speaker 2: against the Chargers. Yeah, eighty two and sixty seven.

835
00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:27,360
Speaker 3: He hasn't been on Sports Center, ripping off long runs,

836
00:37:27,400 --> 00:37:32,040
Speaker 3: stiff armon guys thirty yards down field, running away from everybody.

837
00:37:32,239 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 3: I don't know. I'm just throwing this out there. But

838
00:37:34,200 --> 00:37:36,440
Speaker 3: he's not young, and he's taken a beating, and I

839
00:37:36,480 --> 00:37:39,600
Speaker 3: wonder if he's as spry. They have a bye two

840
00:37:39,680 --> 00:37:43,040
Speaker 3: weeks ago. Yeah, they're doing other things on offense too.

841
00:37:43,120 --> 00:37:46,440
Speaker 3: I mean they haven't sounds crazy, but they haven't fully

842
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 3: bought into the Dereck Henry experience. Either. They're kind of

843
00:37:49,200 --> 00:37:51,840
Speaker 3: teeter in that line, and that's worked well and they

844
00:37:51,880 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 3: haven't needed him every time. But I think he's easier

845
00:37:56,719 --> 00:37:58,160
Speaker 3: to stop than a guy like Barkley.

846
00:37:58,280 --> 00:38:00,840
Speaker 2: He's got five games this year and where he's gotten

847
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:05,400
Speaker 2: twenty carries. The Ravens are five and zero in those games,

848
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:07,919
Speaker 2: are they? So they're three and five when they don't

849
00:38:07,920 --> 00:38:12,480
Speaker 2: get Derrick Henry twenty carries. That includes yesterday's blowout of

850
00:38:12,520 --> 00:38:14,920
Speaker 2: the Gant of the Giants.

851
00:38:15,280 --> 00:38:17,920
Speaker 3: They rested a lot of guys though, Like I get it.

852
00:38:17,840 --> 00:38:22,120
Speaker 2: You know, but in the game, you're two and five

853
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,640
Speaker 2: in games that matter, in games in which you weren't

854
00:38:25,760 --> 00:38:29,920
Speaker 2: you destroying the opponent when you don't get him that

855
00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:30,640
Speaker 2: many carries?

856
00:38:30,680 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 3: And I bet that's true when he was a Titan two.

857
00:38:33,280 --> 00:38:36,000
Speaker 3: You know, Like again, he's a certain type of back.

858
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 3: You got to dedicate yourself to being a Derrick Henry

859
00:38:38,600 --> 00:38:41,759
Speaker 3: type offense. And Teezer said and done. And I kind

860
00:38:41,760 --> 00:38:44,239
Speaker 3: of made fun of Harbaugh early in the season. It

861
00:38:44,360 --> 00:38:46,800
Speaker 3: was like week three or four, and they asked him,

862
00:38:47,080 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: you know, why aren't you a feature in Henry Moore?

863
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:51,440
Speaker 3: And he said something like, well, we're gonna spread things around,

864
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:53,200
Speaker 3: we're not featuring anyone. I like, well, then you got

865
00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:53,719
Speaker 3: the wrong guy.

866
00:38:53,800 --> 00:38:54,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, why did you do that?

867
00:38:54,719 --> 00:38:57,399
Speaker 3: Then? Not that it hasn't worked out for him, He's

868
00:38:57,400 --> 00:38:59,920
Speaker 3: a trement. He's one of the best additions in the offseason,

869
00:39:00,239 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 3: right behind Barkley in the running back world. But it's

870
00:39:02,880 --> 00:39:04,919
Speaker 3: just a I'm not explaining as well as I wish

871
00:39:05,000 --> 00:39:07,719
Speaker 3: I was, but it's you got to jump in the

872
00:39:07,760 --> 00:39:11,279
Speaker 3: deep end on the Dereck Henry experience, and that takes

873
00:39:11,280 --> 00:39:16,399
Speaker 3: away from other things. Yeah, you know, so, I think

874
00:39:16,440 --> 00:39:20,000
Speaker 3: he's a phenomenal football player, but I don't think he's

875
00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:21,319
Speaker 3: a perfect football player, you know.

876
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:24,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, he hasn't scored a touchdown now, it's

877
00:39:25,000 --> 00:39:28,400
Speaker 2: been a while in three games. Yeah, he since he

878
00:39:28,480 --> 00:39:29,560
Speaker 2: scored against the Steelers.

879
00:39:29,680 --> 00:39:32,400
Speaker 3: And these are all standards of great backs. He's on comparison,

880
00:39:32,719 --> 00:39:34,160
Speaker 3: you know, Joe Blow.

881
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:36,960
Speaker 2: He had that sixty sixty five yards against the Steelers.

882
00:39:37,000 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 2: Remember he had a thirty one yard carry and.

883
00:39:39,560 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 3: I thought he had won big, decent chunk.

884
00:39:41,360 --> 00:39:43,880
Speaker 2: So, I mean, again, much like they did with Barkley yesterday.

885
00:39:44,239 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: You take that twenty two yard run away from Barkley.

886
00:39:47,360 --> 00:39:49,479
Speaker 2: On his other carries, he averaged two point four yards

887
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:51,680
Speaker 2: of carry. Yeah, yeah, like you did a really good

888
00:39:51,760 --> 00:39:53,600
Speaker 2: job there. He did a good job against Henry. He

889
00:39:53,640 --> 00:39:56,279
Speaker 2: didn't allow Henry to take the game over. And I

890
00:39:56,320 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 2: think the Ravens, unlike some other teams out there, can

891
00:40:00,719 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: be dissuaded from using that.

892
00:40:02,560 --> 00:40:04,319
Speaker 3: That's kind of what I was thinking, too, is like

893
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:08,239
Speaker 3: where there are definitely are teams out there going to

894
00:40:08,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 3: pound the rock, pound the rock, three and out hunt. Okay,

895
00:40:11,160 --> 00:40:13,160
Speaker 3: but we know the damn's gonna break and the Steelers

896
00:40:13,160 --> 00:40:15,040
Speaker 3: have some of those qualities on offense, and that's.

897
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:17,440
Speaker 2: Been Henry's thing over the course of his career, like

898
00:40:17,480 --> 00:40:18,200
Speaker 2: he's a closer.

899
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,760
Speaker 3: He's a closer. Yeah, and lands a bunch of body

900
00:40:20,760 --> 00:40:23,799
Speaker 3: blows in the first half and then one mistackle and

901
00:40:23,920 --> 00:40:25,959
Speaker 3: oh because he's got that rare speed too.

902
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:30,680
Speaker 2: It's interesting, like I just think that they've been you know,

903
00:40:30,719 --> 00:40:33,680
Speaker 2: if we were doing Raven's Nation radio, like why aren't

904
00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:35,799
Speaker 2: we giving the ball to Derrick Henry? More like this

905
00:40:35,880 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 2: science game aside, this is this is crazy. I know,

906
00:40:38,320 --> 00:40:38,640
Speaker 2: I get it.

907
00:40:38,719 --> 00:40:40,479
Speaker 3: Last there was no wrong answer in that game.

908
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:42,239
Speaker 2: But he's on He's got two hundred and fifty four

909
00:40:42,360 --> 00:40:44,440
Speaker 2: rushing attempt. He's at five point eight yards of carry.

910
00:40:44,600 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 3: Like, I mean, it's still an unbelievable weapon that you

911
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:51,120
Speaker 3: just have to keep feeding the weapon like a Lamar's

912
00:40:51,120 --> 00:40:52,799
Speaker 3: been running a little bit more lately too. I guess

913
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 3: his mom told him too or whatever, you know, But

914
00:40:55,800 --> 00:40:58,920
Speaker 3: he's pretty good at that too. You know, they almost

915
00:40:59,160 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 3: that's a dumb thing to say. I say, they almost

916
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,319
Speaker 3: have too many good options. You know, why we get

917
00:41:03,360 --> 00:41:06,440
Speaker 3: Andrews the ball more even yesterday? I mean they're tearing

918
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:08,840
Speaker 3: up the Giants, But why didn't say Flowers get more action?

919
00:41:08,960 --> 00:41:11,399
Speaker 3: You know, like, well, yeah, a lot of good things

920
00:41:11,440 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 3: going on here. You know, if you're gonna connect a

921
00:41:13,160 --> 00:41:15,600
Speaker 3: couple of deep balls to Bateman and you're not gonna

922
00:41:15,640 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 3: use Henry Aton, you know. I mean Andrews didn't light

923
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,200
Speaker 3: it up it because they got a lot of options.

924
00:41:21,800 --> 00:41:23,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, they were gonna win that game yesterday.

925
00:41:23,600 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 3: I mean that game's almost a throwaway for where the

926
00:41:25,640 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 3: Giants are at right now.

927
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:29,759
Speaker 2: I mean, my goodness, you're you know you're you're playing against.

928
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:32,000
Speaker 3: I firmly believe the Giants don't want to win, right

929
00:41:32,040 --> 00:41:34,320
Speaker 3: I mean, I think that's on purpose yea at this stage.

930
00:41:34,400 --> 00:41:35,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, just at this point.

931
00:41:35,560 --> 00:41:37,360
Speaker 3: I mean they want to pick first or second the draft.

932
00:41:37,560 --> 00:41:39,919
Speaker 2: You're they were playing with Tom Tommy DeVito and Tim

933
00:41:39,920 --> 00:41:40,880
Speaker 2: Boyle at quarterback.

934
00:41:40,960 --> 00:41:43,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, DeVito got hurt and Lock's not even the two.

935
00:41:43,520 --> 00:41:45,799
Speaker 3: He was an emergency guy, right boils the guy off

936
00:41:45,800 --> 00:41:46,160
Speaker 3: the bench.

937
00:41:46,800 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 2: So, I mean, I don't even know. Defensively, what you

938
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 2: take out of that game from the Ravens defense.

939
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:53,239
Speaker 3: Not much. It was like it was easy a team

940
00:41:53,280 --> 00:41:54,160
Speaker 3: to play against the zera in.

941
00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:57,440
Speaker 2: The league right now, and you know, I don't know,

942
00:41:57,480 --> 00:42:01,600
Speaker 2: I mean, for at halftime, they just seem like a

943
00:42:01,600 --> 00:42:05,040
Speaker 2: team that like, Okay, you're gonna take I just I

944
00:42:05,080 --> 00:42:07,279
Speaker 2: can't get past you. You're gonna put Justice Hill out

945
00:42:07,280 --> 00:42:09,719
Speaker 2: there instead of Derrick Henry in certain situations.

946
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,959
Speaker 3: Well okay, yeah, It's kind of like Gainwell and Barkley though,

947
00:42:13,480 --> 00:42:15,759
Speaker 3: I mean, like Hills and Gainwell to me are the

948
00:42:15,840 --> 00:42:19,000
Speaker 3: same level third down back, but Barkley is a much.

949
00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:21,640
Speaker 2: Better receiver better. I think game was better.

950
00:42:21,840 --> 00:42:24,080
Speaker 3: Yeah, I kind of think they're about the same. They're

951
00:42:24,120 --> 00:42:26,680
Speaker 3: both spot duty guys that are effective on a per

952
00:42:26,760 --> 00:42:29,759
Speaker 3: touch basis, but I think Barkley is a much better

953
00:42:29,800 --> 00:42:33,080
Speaker 3: receiver than Henry. He hasn't catch more balls. To be

954
00:42:33,120 --> 00:42:37,120
Speaker 3: honest with you, I'm not sure Henry doesn't catch You

955
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:40,040
Speaker 3: catch the ball like it's a it's a beach ball.

956
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,600
Speaker 2: Yeah, So just interesting. We'll continue to break down this, uh,

957
00:42:44,360 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: this roster is.

958
00:42:45,200 --> 00:42:47,760
Speaker 3: I mean, he's still a massive challenge and no domination

959
00:42:47,840 --> 00:42:50,640
Speaker 3: of him and Lamar is a massive challenge. Yeah, but

960
00:42:50,920 --> 00:42:53,000
Speaker 3: I like Cam Hayward's chances of dealing with it.

961
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,680
Speaker 2: Yeah, I do too. And again that offensive line they

962
00:42:56,680 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 2: got to tackle better, though they do it to tackle better.

963
00:42:59,320 --> 00:43:01,800
Speaker 2: Tackle and space was a problem yes yesterday. Yeah, and

964
00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:04,160
Speaker 2: I thought some of it was a little bit over

965
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:05,360
Speaker 2: aggressiveness at times.

966
00:43:05,480 --> 00:43:08,480
Speaker 3: I thought so too overrunning things, not breaking down. Yeah,

967
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,200
Speaker 3: I thought some of the angles were a little too aggressive. Yeah,

968
00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:13,560
Speaker 3: but that needs corrected. I mean, to me, that's one

969
00:43:13,560 --> 00:43:16,640
Speaker 3: of your big on tape coaching points of the week.

970
00:43:16,880 --> 00:43:20,840
Speaker 3: You know, it's in space in particular, breaking down, making

971
00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:22,759
Speaker 3: them play. You don't have to blow him up and

972
00:43:22,840 --> 00:43:24,160
Speaker 3: run through them, get him on the ground.

973
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,919
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's something that especially on the third down.

974
00:43:27,280 --> 00:43:30,279
Speaker 2: You know, I expect them to be better at They've

975
00:43:30,280 --> 00:43:31,640
Speaker 2: been good at it all so I think they've been

976
00:43:31,640 --> 00:43:33,279
Speaker 2: the best tackling team in the league. Yeah, that was

977
00:43:33,800 --> 00:43:35,000
Speaker 2: the anomaly yesterday.

978
00:43:35,040 --> 00:43:37,800
Speaker 3: And it wasn't like Barkley was making some of his

979
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:40,200
Speaker 3: crazy ones jumping over people backwards and stuff.

980
00:43:40,239 --> 00:43:42,279
Speaker 2: I mean, they did a good job tackling him, That's.

981
00:43:42,200 --> 00:43:44,000
Speaker 3: What I mean. Yeah, it wasn't like the hardest guy

982
00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:46,000
Speaker 3: to tackle out there was just better than all of you.

983
00:43:46,280 --> 00:43:47,399
Speaker 3: It was a bad tackling day.

984
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,760
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's just a bad day at the office all around.

985
00:43:49,800 --> 00:43:52,800
Speaker 2: But Matt, that's going to do it for the show today.

986
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:54,960
Speaker 3: All right, in the middle of a crazy stretch of

987
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:56,040
Speaker 3: the season. It's kind of fun.

988
00:43:55,880 --> 00:43:58,160
Speaker 2: Though, Yeah, well kind of fun for you. I haven't

989
00:43:58,160 --> 00:44:01,120
Speaker 2: even been home yet since a because I got back

990
00:44:01,120 --> 00:44:06,280
Speaker 2: from Philadelhic. I left my house Saturday morning and haven't

991
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:12,239
Speaker 2: been home since. So no, nope, So there you have it. Yeah,

992
00:44:12,320 --> 00:44:14,879
Speaker 2: I'll be I'll get I'll have so I already called

993
00:44:14,880 --> 00:44:16,759
Speaker 2: my wife, Hey, what's for dinner? Because I have one

994
00:44:16,760 --> 00:44:20,439
Speaker 2: of nice home cooked meal your Yeah, and just sit

995
00:44:20,520 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 2: back and relax them. What's the two Monday night games tonight?

996
00:44:23,320 --> 00:44:26,680
Speaker 3: Yeah? How about that? So they're okay, they're entertaining.

997
00:44:26,640 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 2: One should be anyways.

998
00:44:27,680 --> 00:44:30,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, that's all right, that's all right. I like

999
00:44:30,360 --> 00:44:30,800
Speaker 3: the bikes.

1000
00:44:31,040 --> 00:44:33,919
Speaker 2: Yeah uh. Anyways, that's going to do it for today's show.

1001
00:44:33,920 --> 00:44:37,359
Speaker 2: So for my partner Matt Williamson, for Justin Miller here

1002
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: on site running the Justin Miller hotline and the soundboard here,

1003
00:44:41,520 --> 00:44:44,600
Speaker 2: and for Tyler Viittmeyer making sure our video makes it

1004
00:44:44,640 --> 00:44:47,480
Speaker 2: out there onto YouTube. I am Dale, Lolly. We thank

1005
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:49,640
Speaker 2: you for listening to this edition of the Drive on

1006
00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:51,400
Speaker 2: the Steelers Audio Network.