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Speaker 2: On the enzone pickoff Hizier White with the.

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Speaker 1: Interception, the latest news and notes from the insiders who

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Speaker 2: Touchdown Kyler Murray. That defender is in multiple pieces.

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Speaker 3: Oh that was nasty right there, right slam on the

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Speaker 3: ground by fooda baker Like a torpedo.

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Speaker 2: He came flying into the backfield. I ain't scared of nobody.

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Speaker 1: Here's Paul Calvic.

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Speaker 4: All right.

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Speaker 2: So with the NFL schedule, slaty to come out soon,

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Speaker 2: according to Jim Irsay, Colts owner soon. Not sure how

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Speaker 2: we defy. I'm that that's sort of its own ink

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Speaker 2: quot test. Paul Kelvec, Danny Sirek, Darren Urban. I find

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Speaker 2: myself just giddy with anticipation waiting to see when the

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Speaker 2: Bears super rookie comes to State Farm Stadium and Darren,

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Speaker 2: you're asking yourself over there, because I can tell you're

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Speaker 2: deep in thought or you're ignoring me. It's hard to

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Speaker 2: tell which one, Which super rookie are you talking about?

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Speaker 2: Polly Pencilneck. And obviously we could go with the number

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Speaker 2: one pick overall, Caleb Williams. We could go with the

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Speaker 2: ninth pick overall, rome A Doonzay, and both selections would

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Speaker 2: be wrong because the Bear's rookie that I'm looking forward

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Speaker 2: to seeing the most, especially from field level. Danny Sirek

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Speaker 2: is the fourth round selection, the highest drafted punter since

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Speaker 2: twoenty nineteen Tory Taylor.

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Speaker 3: I don't even think I realized they drafted a punter.

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Speaker 2: I did neither, and so that's why I'm holding myself accountable.

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Speaker 4: Off the top, guys, what were you guys on draft weekend?

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Speaker 4: How did you not know this happened?

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Speaker 2: I saw him up on the screen, but I forgot

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Speaker 2: to get to it here on Cardinals Underground, brought to

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Speaker 2: you by Pacific Office Automation. So it's a bit belated,

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Speaker 2: but you know, once again, when that guy comes through

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Speaker 2: rafters as the Ray Guy Award winner. Forget about the

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Speaker 2: Heisman that Caleb Williams bringing to town. It's the Ray

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Speaker 2: Guy Award, Okay. And he's said to be the best

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Speaker 2: punter to enter the league since. And you know what,

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Speaker 2: if you guys can name the last punter who was

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Speaker 2: drafted higher than Tory Taylor, not to be confused with

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Speaker 2: old Cal quarterback Troy Taylor in the late nineties, you

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Speaker 2: can look that up.

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Speaker 4: He was terrible.

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Speaker 2: He was terrible, and it's the reason why my lifetime

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Speaker 2: will never go to a Rose Bowl. He had another reason.

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Speaker 2: But if you can name the last punter, you should

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Speaker 2: be very familiar with this punter because he's within the division.

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Speaker 2: There's your hint as too.

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Speaker 3: I know you're gonna find this hard to believe, but

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Speaker 3: I have no guess whatsoever. Nowhere to even start the Bears,

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Speaker 3: y'alls trivia is just the.

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Speaker 2: Current Bears coach of special teams used to be the

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Speaker 2: Niners drafted this punter back in twenty nineteen by the

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Speaker 2: name of Mitch Wishnowski. He went number ten one ten overall.

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Speaker 2: So there you go. Once again, it's just something about

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Speaker 2: see the booming punts that you know. I mean, once again,

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Speaker 2: Darren punters not only are players, they can be weapons. Okay,

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Speaker 2: so you know, put some respect on the punters name.

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Speaker 2: For one.

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Speaker 4: As John Fox used to say, Paul punting is not

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Speaker 2: By the way, he has something in common with Ben

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Speaker 2: Graham as he hails from Australia.

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Speaker 4: Yep, and Austin rules football guys.

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Speaker 2: And just to know, the football gods were watching this

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Speaker 2: particular pick. His girlfriend is from Chicago, and he joked,

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Speaker 2: The Bears are going to take me, even though the

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Speaker 2: And the Bears picked them. That's the story he told.

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Speaker 4: That's a good story.

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Speaker 2: So how about that.

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Speaker 4: But he's still a punter.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he's still a punter. So it's moving along, all right,

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Speaker 2: move it along. Let's get to uh. By the way,

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Speaker 4: Rookie mini camp.

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Speaker 2: Rookie mini camp. All right. So we're getting more news

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Speaker 2: here that, apparently, according to the NFL network, that that

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Speaker 2: rookie class, Stan, Wait a minute, where's the arm are

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Speaker 2: they going to bring in Clayton tune from last year? Well,

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Speaker 2: it's Taulia Tongua bell Laya, the younger brother of Tua

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Speaker 2: By the way, Mike McDonald's going to call the defense

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Speaker 2: you know it's relevant because who's throwing to Marvin Harrison Junior.

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Speaker 4: You gotta have somebody throwing it to him. I am impressed,

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Speaker 3: Would you call him at like that? Journalistic integrity? Darren

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Speaker 4: I'm saying, I'm praising him for it. That's that's a

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Speaker 4: good job, because I will not be calling him anything

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Speaker 2: And let him be noted. That's the first and last

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Speaker 2: I said at once. From now on it's just tongue

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Speaker 3: Rolling off the tap one more time, so I can

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Speaker 2: And I think he's a righty, yes, even though two

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Speaker 4: I believe he's already. I think I've seen him play

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Speaker 4: college a couple of times. But you're right, somebody's got

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Speaker 4: to throw to Marvin. I mean, somebody's got to throw

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Speaker 2: And by the way, you probably you wouldn't bring in

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Speaker 3: You probably not? I wonder how many like undrafted players

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Speaker 3: is a generous word for it, because there's no pads,

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Speaker 4: The funny thing is is back in the day and

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Speaker 4: Paul is going to remember this because he was quite

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Speaker 4: a few of them. I mean, they used to have

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Speaker 4: you know, there weren't wearing pads, but they were doing

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Speaker 2: And you're right, I mean there's no pads, there's no

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Speaker 2: you're getting zero from that, nothing relevant whatsoever. But would

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Speaker 2: bad sign. But early in that rookie camp. I mean

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Speaker 2: I remember last year, for example, Key Troll Clark competing

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Speaker 4: I'm torn on that a little bit, like if you

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Speaker 2: So if Max Melton is locking up dudes left and right,

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Speaker 2: you know I shouldn't be out there just tweeting irresponsibly.

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Speaker 2: Is that what you're saying?

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Speaker 4: Different? Yea, I say, not cool, totally not cool.

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Speaker 2: You know, when the two man game doesn't evolve me,

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Speaker 2: I don't like it. Don't like it.

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Speaker 4: Over here quite dribbling into the double team, Paul.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, all right, we'll get to the rookie camp

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Speaker 2: I mean, what what is going on here, Danny?

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Speaker 3: Because it comes from the league in terms of when

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Speaker 3: I I don't I don't think it's wrong for me.

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Speaker 3: Darren will give me eyes if it is for me

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Speaker 3: is going to drop, because teams don't have that information yet.

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Speaker 4: I just thought that you were just gonna be more mad.

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Speaker 4: You just you sound very upset that we don't know

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Speaker 1: Me.

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Speaker 3: Yes, here's the thing. I'm not upset that we don't

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Speaker 4: That's fair. But I'm gonna say as we record this

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Speaker 2: Who needs an actual timetable when we have the strength

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Speaker 2: of schedule that came out? Did you see this? So

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Speaker 2: when you don't have the actual schedule itself, you debate

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Speaker 2: the strength of schedule, which actually begs another question based

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Speaker 2: on last week, what's more meaningless slash worthless, mock drafts,

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Speaker 2: draft grades or strength of schedule because every year the

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Speaker 2: there's a worst of first, there's always four new playoff

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Speaker 2: strength of schedule, even though they put it out there

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Speaker 2: and we read into it and I'm about to tell

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Speaker 2: you where the card will fall within it, I mean,

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Speaker 2: come on, it's darn near closer. Draft grades and mock

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Speaker 2: draft yeah, it's all projections.

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Speaker 4: I would say, no, in this case, is not even projections.

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Speaker 4: It's based on It's funny we always hear coaches talk

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Speaker 2: So Cleveland as the strongest strength to schedule, the toughest schedule.

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Speaker 2: Baltimore's number two, they play ten playoff teams, Pittsburgh number three.

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Speaker 2: So Danny, Dolphins are on the schedule this year. Yes,

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Speaker 2: London and Germany is red hot in terms of desirability

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Speaker 2: And since the Cardinals have had their share of international

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Speaker 4: Well they looked better. Yeah, I mean they looked fresher.

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Speaker 2: No, we're all in it. We're all there, Darren, We're

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Speaker 2: Of course you could see Carson Palmer standing next to me.

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Speaker 2: Are you kidding me? It's like, you know, I look

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Speaker 4: To be maybe, but I haven't heard any noise about

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Speaker 2: I'm anticipating the schedule to such a degree. I started

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Speaker 2: Remembered by yours truly. So once again, before we move

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Speaker 2: If you just make that happen for us, we'd appreciate

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Speaker 4: We will. By the way, have a special Cardinals Underground

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Speaker 3: Well, here's the thing. If it's in December and it's

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Speaker 3: I know I'm gonna regret saying this, so I'm gonna

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Speaker 4: worse green Bay in December or Miami in September.

436
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Speaker 2: Oh, you know, I've survived green Bay in December before,

437
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:01,479
Speaker 2: most recently the Josh Rosen who attics Keister saved by

438
00:21:01,520 --> 00:21:05,680
Speaker 2: the third nineteen catch by Larry Fitzgerald, ridiculous first down

439
00:21:05,720 --> 00:21:07,960
Speaker 2: catch that enabled the Cardinals to win that game. And

440
00:21:08,040 --> 00:21:10,920
Speaker 2: before we left the tarmac, you're right, the Packers head

441
00:21:10,960 --> 00:21:15,240
Speaker 2: coach Mike McCarthy was fired. No, the probably the worst games, well,

442
00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:17,240
Speaker 2: the snow game in New England once upon a time,

443
00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:19,560
Speaker 2: the Super Bowl run that was really bad. But otherwise, Yeah,

444
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:23,359
Speaker 2: Jacksonville in Week two couple of years ago. There was

445
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:26,679
Speaker 2: a Jacksonville Week three about ten years ago. And then

446
00:21:26,720 --> 00:21:29,680
Speaker 2: the last time we went to Miami, it was absolutely

447
00:21:29,680 --> 00:21:32,000
Speaker 2: coming down in sheets. Yeah, I remember that for about

448
00:21:32,040 --> 00:21:32,480
Speaker 2: two hours.

449
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Speaker 4: And that's the thing. Like in Miami, you could get

450
00:21:34,960 --> 00:21:37,800
Speaker 4: nailed with horrible rain, or you could be in hot

451
00:21:37,880 --> 00:21:39,040
Speaker 4: humidity and melts.

452
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Speaker 3: It's not as bad, but still Carolina is on the schedule.

453
00:21:42,080 --> 00:21:46,400
Speaker 3: That's true, So Carolina in September could also be not enjoyable.

454
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Speaker 4: It could be it could be pretty cold if it's

455
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Speaker 4: late in the season two when.

456
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Speaker 3: We it was chill. It wasn't late in the season

457
00:21:51,200 --> 00:21:53,520
Speaker 3: when we went two years ago, but I remember it was.

458
00:21:53,600 --> 00:21:54,959
Speaker 3: It was colder than we had all expected.

459
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Speaker 4: So basically, Paul's screwed.

460
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Speaker 2: All right, It's moved this along here. Okay, when the

461
00:22:00,560 --> 00:22:02,879
Speaker 2: Cardinals going, by the way, I do recommend the Lambeau

462
00:22:02,960 --> 00:22:05,120
Speaker 2: trip if you're a Cardinals fan you're looking to make

463
00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,439
Speaker 2: one road trip this year. My buddies have done Lambeau

464
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:11,080
Speaker 2: in the past and they're very accommodating to visiting fans.

465
00:22:11,640 --> 00:22:14,439
Speaker 2: But you know that Midwest charm is in play, as

466
00:22:14,480 --> 00:22:17,120
Speaker 2: opposed to like, don't wearry a Cardinals jersey into an

467
00:22:17,160 --> 00:22:19,680
Speaker 2: Eagles game if you're going to Philadelphia. Okay, you would

468
00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:21,479
Speaker 2: never do that, but Lambo's one place you can get

469
00:22:21,480 --> 00:22:24,080
Speaker 2: away with it and you'll be welcomed by the locals. Buffalo,

470
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Speaker 2: I'm not so sure. Probably depends on how many folding

471
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Speaker 2: tables they've busted a pregame at that point.

472
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Speaker 3: That would be fun.

473
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Speaker 2: Do you think Jay Jones will be on the roster

474
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Speaker 2: going to Green Bay or Buffalo or Miami. There's my

475
00:22:37,840 --> 00:22:42,760
Speaker 2: segue into the Cardinals roster evolution, which continues. Reportedly that

476
00:22:42,880 --> 00:22:44,600
Speaker 2: Jay Jones has been in for a visit.

477
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Speaker 3: I don't know I on the roster. I mean it's

478
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Speaker 3: hard because they also they also signed some undrafted rookie

479
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 3: free agents or one I believe right after the draft.

480
00:23:00,720 --> 00:23:04,199
Speaker 2: Xavier Weaver out of Colorado was the undrafted rookie Phragan who,

481
00:23:04,240 --> 00:23:06,280
Speaker 2: by the way, they gave big money over two hundred

482
00:23:06,320 --> 00:23:09,800
Speaker 2: and fifty thousand dollars guaranteed, more than they gave any

483
00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:11,399
Speaker 2: undrafted guy a year ago.

484
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Speaker 4: Yeah.

485
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,280
Speaker 3: So also addressed in free agency.

486
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Speaker 4: Well, and that's the thing is, like the question is

487
00:23:16,400 --> 00:23:20,000
Speaker 4: to me is whether it's Zay Jones or not, Like,

488
00:23:20,520 --> 00:23:23,320
Speaker 4: is this team does it need a veteran wide receiver?

489
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Speaker 2: I'd say yes. Now, do you want to get a

490
00:23:27,000 --> 00:23:29,280
Speaker 2: look at what you have in rookie camp? And even

491
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:31,199
Speaker 2: if it looks good, how much can you count on that?

492
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:34,840
Speaker 2: I mean, Darren, how many years have guys flashed in

493
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:37,679
Speaker 2: August and then you get through the regular season everything's different?

494
00:23:38,400 --> 00:23:40,440
Speaker 4: True, but how many how many times? Do we could

495
00:23:40,440 --> 00:23:42,320
Speaker 4: also say how many times does this team sign a

496
00:23:42,400 --> 00:23:46,800
Speaker 4: veteran wide receiver and they've done nothing. I got one

497
00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 4: name just pops into my mind as Michael Crabtree. I

498
00:23:49,359 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 4: know that was training camp Kevin White a few years ago.

499
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 4: Kevin White. You know, I mean, it's just because you're

500
00:23:54,800 --> 00:23:56,720
Speaker 4: signing a veteran doesn't mean you're going to get anything

501
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Speaker 4: out of it.

502
00:23:57,600 --> 00:23:59,520
Speaker 2: I get it, I get it. But Kevin White was

503
00:23:59,520 --> 00:24:03,000
Speaker 2: pretty much bust at that point, and Michael Crabtree had

504
00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:06,120
Speaker 2: already fallen out with a few other teams. Zay Jones

505
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:09,600
Speaker 2: was most definitely a cap hit. Jacksonville saved nearly eleven

506
00:24:09,640 --> 00:24:12,800
Speaker 2: million dollars by letting him go. He was a second

507
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,720
Speaker 2: round pick in seventeen, so he's still in his prime.

508
00:24:17,000 --> 00:24:20,800
Speaker 2: But I do think they're looking for another veteran receiver

509
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:23,520
Speaker 2: at the right price, just like I'm wondering if they're

510
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:27,920
Speaker 2: looking for another veteran corner at the right price. In fact,

511
00:24:28,040 --> 00:24:30,639
Speaker 2: I took a quick look at the top one hundred

512
00:24:30,720 --> 00:24:35,200
Speaker 2: NFL free agents. There are thirteen left who have gone unsigned.

513
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Speaker 4: A wide receivers you mean, no, just the NFL dot

514
00:24:38,800 --> 00:24:41,040
Speaker 4: com as the top one hundred and one free agents,

515
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,480
Speaker 4: thirteen or left for those thirteen are corners, our veteran corners.

516
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:51,240
Speaker 2: So whether it's a Kello Witherspoon, the Rams top corner

517
00:24:51,240 --> 00:24:53,920
Speaker 2: a year ago, who they didn't resign aged twenty nine

518
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:57,560
Speaker 2: and he made just over a million dollars a year ago,

519
00:24:58,040 --> 00:25:03,199
Speaker 2: A Dori Jackson who who was with the Giants, and

520
00:25:03,359 --> 00:25:05,480
Speaker 2: apparently win Martin Dale just put him on an island

521
00:25:05,520 --> 00:25:07,920
Speaker 2: all the time and he got torched more often than

522
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:10,680
Speaker 2: he cared to remember. But a Dori Jackson's out there.

523
00:25:10,720 --> 00:25:12,560
Speaker 2: Steven Nelson is out there. We saw him when the

524
00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: Cardinals played Houston. I think he played sixteen or seventeen games.

525
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:19,400
Speaker 2: I looked that up previously. And then you have Stefan

526
00:25:19,480 --> 00:25:21,840
Speaker 2: Gilmour's out there. I'm guessing he's gonna try and command

527
00:25:21,880 --> 00:25:24,640
Speaker 2: more money. But I mean, there are at least three

528
00:25:24,800 --> 00:25:29,000
Speaker 2: legitimate prices, right, veteran cornerbacks who are out there.

529
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Speaker 4: So you think they need a receiver and a corner I.

530
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,080
Speaker 2: Would not be surprised if they went after both. So

531
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Speaker 2: when I saw Za Jones, absolutely make sense. Let him compete.

532
00:25:36,400 --> 00:25:39,360
Speaker 2: Bring him in. You have a proven guy. And then

533
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Speaker 2: I think at corner, I'd be real curious to see

534
00:25:41,560 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 2: if they do that as.

535
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:44,359
Speaker 3: Well, and he's big too. Right over, he's like, what

536
00:25:44,480 --> 00:25:46,880
Speaker 3: six two? Yes, yeah, that's what they want.

537
00:25:48,000 --> 00:25:50,600
Speaker 4: I can I see receiver more than I see cornerback.

538
00:25:50,640 --> 00:25:54,000
Speaker 4: I don't. I don't understand spending the draft capital you

539
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:58,600
Speaker 4: have that you did on cornerbacks and say let's bring

540
00:25:58,640 --> 00:26:01,520
Speaker 4: in another veteran that's the could essentially stunt their goalth.

541
00:26:01,560 --> 00:26:03,160
Speaker 4: I mean, how many cornerbacks are you going to keep

542
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:03,760
Speaker 4: on this roster?

543
00:26:04,720 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 2: True? And last year, I mean they played with Starling

544
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,720
Speaker 2: Thomas and Key Troll Clark, and let's put those Bobby Price,

545
00:26:11,000 --> 00:26:11,679
Speaker 2: I get that.

546
00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:13,800
Speaker 4: Let's put those guys aside for a minute. They got

547
00:26:13,880 --> 00:26:17,440
Speaker 4: they got Murphy Bunting. And they've now spent three third

548
00:26:17,520 --> 00:26:20,160
Speaker 4: round picks the last two years on cornerbacks. That's four

549
00:26:20,200 --> 00:26:21,160
Speaker 4: cornerbacks right there.

550
00:26:21,840 --> 00:26:22,080
Speaker 2: Yep.

551
00:26:23,000 --> 00:26:26,280
Speaker 4: I don't know if I unless you're already you already

552
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 4: don't like Garrett Williams, which I don't see.

553
00:26:29,240 --> 00:26:34,359
Speaker 2: That you're keeping four corners at least maybe five depending

554
00:26:34,760 --> 00:26:35,800
Speaker 2: so well.

555
00:26:35,840 --> 00:26:38,639
Speaker 4: But see, I also think that Rabbit can play probably

556
00:26:38,680 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 4: play nickel if you need it from too. Yeah, I don't.

557
00:26:41,440 --> 00:26:44,280
Speaker 4: I don't know. Again, I could see a receiver the

558
00:26:44,359 --> 00:26:48,320
Speaker 4: cornerback thing that would definitely scream to me, let's see

559
00:26:48,359 --> 00:26:50,720
Speaker 4: what we got in training camp before we go adding

560
00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 4: another veteran who is on the street for a reason

561
00:26:54,200 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 4: right now, by the way.

562
00:26:56,760 --> 00:26:58,600
Speaker 2: And honestly, when we get to the rookie camp. I

563
00:26:58,640 --> 00:27:01,439
Speaker 2: mean to my point early about watching the corners, I

564
00:27:01,480 --> 00:27:03,760
Speaker 2: just think you can you can get an initial read

565
00:27:03,840 --> 00:27:05,640
Speaker 2: on a corner just how they do in these rookie

566
00:27:05,720 --> 00:27:09,320
Speaker 2: camps that it's not completely worthless in terms of assessing

567
00:27:09,400 --> 00:27:11,399
Speaker 2: and the guy that I'm real curious to see as

568
00:27:11,400 --> 00:27:13,919
Speaker 2: well as Elijah Jones, the final third round pick out

569
00:27:13,960 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 2: of Boston College six to one and a half tons

570
00:27:16,600 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 2: of experience. Dave Sears spoke glowingly of him on The

571
00:27:20,240 --> 00:27:23,840
Speaker 2: Big Red Rage Cardinals Assistant GM. So he's sort of

572
00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,040
Speaker 2: an unknown right in the middle of this draft class.

573
00:27:26,040 --> 00:27:27,399
Speaker 2: I don't think he's gotten a lot of attention.

574
00:27:28,480 --> 00:27:30,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, I feel like it's I feel like even Daries

575
00:27:30,840 --> 00:27:33,199
Speaker 3: Robinson as a first round pick hasn't gotten a lot

576
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:36,040
Speaker 3: of attention just because he was the second first round pick. True,

577
00:27:36,160 --> 00:27:37,520
Speaker 3: I agree, we're not going to see a lot, but

578
00:27:37,560 --> 00:27:41,600
Speaker 3: when it comes to a cornerback and the light drills,

579
00:27:41,720 --> 00:27:43,680
Speaker 3: I expect us to see on Friday, you can still

580
00:27:43,680 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 3: get a feel for their fluidity and moving their hips

581
00:27:46,600 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 3: and their speed right and tracking the ball, and you're

582
00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:52,280
Speaker 3: going to see at least enough right, at least enough

583
00:27:52,320 --> 00:27:54,920
Speaker 3: for kind of hold the fans over a little until

584
00:27:54,920 --> 00:27:56,800
Speaker 3: we start to get to that next push of practices.

585
00:27:56,920 --> 00:27:59,400
Speaker 4: I think one of the things about Elijah Jones why

586
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:01,879
Speaker 4: he's been the background is because that was he was

587
00:28:01,960 --> 00:28:06,040
Speaker 4: the seventh pick of the Cardinals draft. He was the

588
00:28:06,080 --> 00:28:08,480
Speaker 4: fifth pick of that day. It was a long day.

589
00:28:09,160 --> 00:28:10,720
Speaker 4: I mean, it was easy for him to kind of

590
00:28:10,720 --> 00:28:12,159
Speaker 4: fall through the cracks. And then you come back the

591
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,680
Speaker 4: next day and you're already in the fourth round and

592
00:28:13,680 --> 00:28:16,200
Speaker 4: you're already talking about, okay, what might happen?

593
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:18,800
Speaker 2: So are you saying the Cardinals senior writer on that

594
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:20,840
Speaker 2: day was exhausted by the time his name was called,

595
00:28:20,840 --> 00:28:22,120
Speaker 2: and you didn't have as much other chance.

596
00:28:22,520 --> 00:28:25,320
Speaker 3: Pauling myself out about not knowing that the Bears drafted

597
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:25,760
Speaker 3: a punter.

598
00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:28,639
Speaker 4: No, No, I'm well aware they drafted Elijah Jones.

599
00:28:29,080 --> 00:28:32,160
Speaker 2: He didn't get commensur and coverage because you were exhausted

600
00:28:32,200 --> 00:28:34,159
Speaker 2: at that point. On Asycardinals dot com, is that what

601
00:28:34,160 --> 00:28:36,240
Speaker 2: you're saying Darren, I mean, weren't you the one who.

602
00:28:36,080 --> 00:28:37,480
Speaker 4: Said he fell through the crack? How much have you

603
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 4: talked about Elijah Jones there? Paul's run by the way.

604
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,400
Speaker 2: Going back to Darius Robinson, you.

605
00:28:42,360 --> 00:28:44,719
Speaker 4: Want to sign a veteran cornerback and just shove Elijah

606
00:28:44,800 --> 00:28:45,720
Speaker 4: Jones to the background.

607
00:28:46,560 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 2: I look compete, okay. I am curious what they think

608
00:28:50,760 --> 00:28:54,200
Speaker 2: of last year's corner class though, based on the fact

609
00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:58,360
Speaker 2: they went after three corners in this class. Where are

610
00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:01,200
Speaker 2: they with Key Troll, Clark, Arling Thomas and some of

611
00:29:01,240 --> 00:29:04,520
Speaker 2: the other Devod Wilson, Bobby Price, some of these other

612
00:29:05,040 --> 00:29:07,040
Speaker 2: young guys. I mean, that's going to be an ultra

613
00:29:07,360 --> 00:29:10,880
Speaker 2: competitive room that cornerback. I mean, I made you say

614
00:29:10,880 --> 00:29:14,000
Speaker 2: eleven right now are on the roster. So I think

615
00:29:14,040 --> 00:29:19,600
Speaker 2: that's what Craig Grieolow said earlier. So as for Darius Robinson,

616
00:29:20,240 --> 00:29:22,680
Speaker 2: it was interesting to hear Dave Sears in the Big

617
00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 2: Red Rage talk about, you know, the motor definitely stands

618
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:30,040
Speaker 2: out his versatility. These are Dave Sears words there. Now,

619
00:29:30,120 --> 00:29:33,560
Speaker 2: he basically played every spot at Missouri. We see him

620
00:29:33,560 --> 00:29:35,560
Speaker 2: more with his hand in the dirt as a d lineman,

621
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 2: but in certain packages. He could be in a two

622
00:29:38,960 --> 00:29:43,120
Speaker 2: point stance, still has the ability if desired, to add

623
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:46,680
Speaker 2: weight right because he's so long and athletic at six

624
00:29:46,840 --> 00:29:50,800
Speaker 2: five to eighty five guid he didn't start playing football

625
00:29:50,880 --> 00:29:54,440
Speaker 2: until his junior year in high school and so okay,

626
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 2: and then we talked about this a little bit Nick

627
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,640
Speaker 2: Rowis and his ability to be creative and use different

628
00:29:59,680 --> 00:30:04,560
Speaker 2: defense linemen in different ways in different game situations. I mean,

629
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Speaker 2: I am curious to see how they dial up Darius Robinson,

630
00:30:07,440 --> 00:30:09,720
Speaker 2: especially when you have two established veterans and Justin Jones,

631
00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,040
Speaker 2: A Blall Nichols. Maybe he is a sort of X

632
00:30:12,080 --> 00:30:12,840
Speaker 2: factor out there.

633
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,360
Speaker 3: I agree. I think that versatility as much of a

634
00:30:18,400 --> 00:30:20,959
Speaker 3: buzzword as that's been of kind of thinking like, are

635
00:30:21,000 --> 00:30:24,960
Speaker 3: you just saying this? Darius Robinson really does have that versatility.

636
00:30:24,960 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 3: He's proven that and what he's been able to do

637
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:30,720
Speaker 3: in college. Considering the rotation that this staff likes to

638
00:30:30,760 --> 00:30:32,880
Speaker 3: have on the D line and moving players around, I

639
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:36,520
Speaker 3: would absolutely believe that this staff, in this front office

640
00:30:36,560 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 3: could see Robinson being used in multiple different spots. I

641
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:43,560
Speaker 3: think coming in to a room where you have such

642
00:30:43,640 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 3: seasoned veterans like Blon Nichols and Justin Jones who were

643
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:51,800
Speaker 3: added a free agency. You've got LJ. Collier in that room,

644
00:30:52,400 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 3: someone like Adante still is going into year two. It

645
00:30:54,840 --> 00:30:59,200
Speaker 3: feels like there's there's a lot of good press, a

646
00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 3: lot a lot of pres in there to help him

647
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:05,880
Speaker 3: also grow in this year and figure out how to

648
00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,200
Speaker 3: carry over his skill sets.

649
00:31:07,440 --> 00:31:10,720
Speaker 4: I do think, you know, like Danny said, I feel

650
00:31:10,720 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 4: like he's been overlooked a little bit because of the

651
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,880
Speaker 4: timing of when it was picked and everything that happened,

652
00:31:16,880 --> 00:31:21,440
Speaker 4: and the understandable excitement over Marvin Harrison. I get that too,

653
00:31:22,560 --> 00:31:26,120
Speaker 4: But again, this is a position that they really needed,

654
00:31:26,760 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 4: and I'm intrigued by that whole group. And you talk

655
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:34,320
Speaker 4: about competition, I will say it does feel a little

656
00:31:34,320 --> 00:31:37,840
Speaker 4: bit cliche when coaches talk about we want competition in

657
00:31:37,880 --> 00:31:40,680
Speaker 4: that room, we want competition in this other room. But

658
00:31:40,960 --> 00:31:44,280
Speaker 4: it does feel like there is going to be a

659
00:31:44,320 --> 00:31:47,680
Speaker 4: lot of that, and that, in theory, is going to

660
00:31:47,800 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 4: raise the play of these guys. Is they battle for jobs.

661
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:53,080
Speaker 4: There's not a lot of guys where you're sitting there

662
00:31:53,120 --> 00:31:55,160
Speaker 4: saying he's absolutely on the team. I mean, I'm guessing

663
00:31:55,360 --> 00:31:58,080
Speaker 4: Ball Nichols and Justin Jones are automatically on this team,

664
00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 4: but beyond that why and Robinson will be on this team?

665
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:05,080
Speaker 2: But well, think about it. He was the second interior

666
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:08,880
Speaker 2: defensive lineman selected in this draft Byron Murphy. The second

667
00:32:09,120 --> 00:32:12,560
Speaker 2: went sixteenth overall to the Stink and Seahawks. Right, So now,

668
00:32:12,600 --> 00:32:15,880
Speaker 2: all of a sudden, Darius Robinson. And then what's interesting too,

669
00:32:16,040 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 2: is high in round two, what do the Rams do?

670
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,360
Speaker 2: They got Braiden Fisk. So got Jared Verse in round one,

671
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:24,640
Speaker 2: Braiden Fisk in round two. So that's going to be

672
00:32:24,680 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 2: curious to track all of these guys along the defensive

673
00:32:28,000 --> 00:32:29,920
Speaker 2: front among all three teams.

674
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:31,959
Speaker 3: In the NFC West, trying to replace Aaron Donald.

675
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:34,680
Speaker 2: Yep, there you go. And you know what after they

676
00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 2: got Byron Young and Kobe Turner last year on that

677
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,239
Speaker 2: defensive front. I mean, the Rams low key have had

678
00:32:40,280 --> 00:32:43,120
Speaker 2: a real good defensive line draft trying to account for

679
00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,240
Speaker 2: Aaron Donald, which, by the way, we don't need hearing

680
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 2: those reports that he might come back if we needed

681
00:32:47,800 --> 00:32:48,720
Speaker 2: towards the end of the year.

682
00:32:48,920 --> 00:32:49,720
Speaker 3: I did not see that.

683
00:32:49,800 --> 00:32:51,960
Speaker 2: Yes, and then JJ Watt jumped in, well, if the

684
00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:54,320
Speaker 2: Texans need me, I might be available.

685
00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,640
Speaker 4: He certainly did He certainly didn't say no, did he.

686
00:32:56,800 --> 00:32:59,360
Speaker 2: No, he didn't know, so he made it known that

687
00:32:59,360 --> 00:33:02,400
Speaker 2: he's keeping in and so just in case. And Demiko

688
00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,040
Speaker 2: Ryan's actually commented out it like their charity golf tournament,

689
00:33:05,280 --> 00:33:08,200
Speaker 2: that he has jj Watt's number. So there you go.

690
00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,440
Speaker 2: But see, I don't know if the Cardinals ever thought

691
00:33:10,440 --> 00:33:12,640
Speaker 2: about calling jj Watt last year, but you know, when

692
00:33:12,640 --> 00:33:14,320
Speaker 2: you were down at the very end of the season

693
00:33:14,480 --> 00:33:16,320
Speaker 2: and you had a cast of guys off the practice

694
00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:18,600
Speaker 2: squad that no one had ever heard of. So it

695
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:23,120
Speaker 2: is nice starting this year with a reinforced defensive line

696
00:33:23,200 --> 00:33:24,680
Speaker 2: room put it that way, right, I.

697
00:33:24,640 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 4: Mean, they needed overhaul. Although to your point there, I'm

698
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,239
Speaker 4: guessing jj Watt wouldn't be returning the Texans calls at

699
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:34,280
Speaker 4: this point if they weren't playoff for material.

700
00:33:34,400 --> 00:33:37,840
Speaker 2: It's true, you're right on that one. By the way.

701
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: The player also that hasn't got a lot of run.

702
00:33:42,160 --> 00:33:45,360
Speaker 2: Isaiah Adams, the offensive lineman out of Illinois, and I

703
00:33:45,480 --> 00:33:47,640
Speaker 2: like what Dave Sears, the assistant GM, had to say

704
00:33:47,680 --> 00:33:51,280
Speaker 2: about this guy quote, he's a maler. We're looking for

705
00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:54,800
Speaker 2: grimy offensive lineman who will put your face in the dirt.

706
00:33:55,200 --> 00:33:58,920
Speaker 2: He's that kind of guy who's a finisher. So, Danny,

707
00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:01,760
Speaker 2: I think you pointed out up early last year how

708
00:34:01,760 --> 00:34:04,760
Speaker 2: there's a pattern in the sort of receiver the Cardinals

709
00:34:04,800 --> 00:34:08,320
Speaker 2: have been targeting right six foot and above. There definitely

710
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:10,800
Speaker 2: seems to be a pattern and the sort of offensive

711
00:34:10,800 --> 00:34:13,200
Speaker 2: and defensive lineman the Cardinals are going after.

712
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the game is won and lost in the trenches.

713
00:34:15,880 --> 00:34:17,879
Speaker 3: You want some, you want some?

714
00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: I don't know, say it. It's not the Tom Brady roast.

715
00:34:22,120 --> 00:34:23,000
Speaker 2: You know you can let it fly?

716
00:34:23,239 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 3: Was it? Was it justin Jones, right or Balon Nichols?

717
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,120
Speaker 3: Which one said that they want to be some bad

718
00:34:27,200 --> 00:34:29,520
Speaker 3: mofos on that line. That's what you need on both

719
00:34:29,520 --> 00:34:30,280
Speaker 3: sides of the line.

720
00:34:30,320 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 2: We can get Craig grigolou in here to pinch it

721
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:36,040
Speaker 2: with that phrase. If you want that'd be good, that'd

722
00:34:36,040 --> 00:34:38,440
Speaker 2: be good, by the way, can I this is a

723
00:34:38,440 --> 00:34:41,719
Speaker 2: hard right turn. But the whole Tom Brady roast was

724
00:34:41,760 --> 00:34:43,360
Speaker 2: his mom really in attendance?

725
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,080
Speaker 4: I mean, I have not seen it.

726
00:34:45,239 --> 00:34:47,799
Speaker 3: I win I put it on the back half.

727
00:34:47,640 --> 00:34:51,160
Speaker 2: At the prospect of Tom Brady's mom being attendance for

728
00:34:51,280 --> 00:34:55,560
Speaker 2: most three hours. No, apparently his parents were there and

729
00:34:55,600 --> 00:35:00,479
Speaker 2: whoever advised Kim Kardashian to show up? Yikes out, Yeah

730
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:01,560
Speaker 2: that was rough.

731
00:35:01,640 --> 00:35:05,439
Speaker 4: So yeah when the lost trays out there at the roast,

732
00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:06,200
Speaker 4: oh boy.

733
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:09,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, Gronk took a beat down, Kim Kardashian took a

734
00:35:09,200 --> 00:35:13,879
Speaker 2: beat down. Bill Belichick, Yeah, Robert Kraft before time told

735
00:35:13,920 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 2: the comedian uh to change his game plans. So yeah,

736
00:35:18,080 --> 00:35:21,560
Speaker 2: that was for anyone who ever wonders. That's pretty much

737
00:35:21,560 --> 00:35:25,400
Speaker 2: the locker room personified on steroids, except tele advised to

738
00:35:25,440 --> 00:35:26,400
Speaker 2: a global audience.

739
00:35:26,440 --> 00:35:28,359
Speaker 3: Why would you, I know, they're obviously paying a lot

740
00:35:28,400 --> 00:35:31,400
Speaker 3: of money, why would you ever want to be roasted? Ever?

741
00:35:32,160 --> 00:35:34,239
Speaker 4: Okay, I can barely handle it when Danny gets on my.

742
00:35:34,320 --> 00:35:37,480
Speaker 3: Case exactly and I'm not paying you.

743
00:35:36,960 --> 00:35:41,279
Speaker 2: No, I mean did it go to charity or did

744
00:35:41,280 --> 00:35:45,120
Speaker 2: it go to the Tom Brady Foundation? I eat like

745
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: his own pocket? Like, what was the motivation for that?

746
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:50,920
Speaker 2: Why would you subject yourself to that for three hours?

747
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:54,200
Speaker 4: You? Uh, you're mistaken me for somebody who would actually know.

748
00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 2: The Darren Oh my gosh.

749
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,600
Speaker 3: Okay, did you see see the joke though about deflate Gate?

750
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,480
Speaker 3: I did Tom Brady pretty much that if you guys

751
00:36:02,480 --> 00:36:04,160
Speaker 3: were going to spend twenty million dollars on that. You

752
00:36:04,160 --> 00:36:05,399
Speaker 3: could have just given it to me and I would

753
00:36:05,400 --> 00:36:06,880
Speaker 3: have said whatever you wanted me to say.

754
00:36:07,000 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 2: That's right. So maybe that's my segue into the thirteen

755
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:12,759
Speaker 2: million plus that the Cardinals declined on Xaving Collins. Is

756
00:36:12,760 --> 00:36:13,759
Speaker 2: that a segue right there?

757
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,320
Speaker 4: As we get it is when you're that professional poem.

758
00:36:17,160 --> 00:36:20,279
Speaker 2: Not a surprise, right, not a surprise, nope. I mean,

759
00:36:20,520 --> 00:36:24,240
Speaker 2: look every player and almost every year it's the NFL.

760
00:36:24,400 --> 00:36:27,759
Speaker 2: Everybody now it's prove it every single week of every

761
00:36:27,800 --> 00:36:32,160
Speaker 2: single year. But for Xaving Collins, they want to see

762
00:36:32,480 --> 00:36:35,719
Speaker 2: how this transition is going to turn out. In year

763
00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,320
Speaker 2: number two of going from inside outside linebacker.

764
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:42,200
Speaker 3: I think that's fair give him another full off season,

765
00:36:42,280 --> 00:36:45,240
Speaker 3: a full year of making that transition. We saw sparks.

766
00:36:45,680 --> 00:36:50,360
Speaker 3: We have heard from multiple coaches, multiple coaching staffs, just

767
00:36:50,440 --> 00:36:56,080
Speaker 3: how intelligent Xavin Collins is and his physical abilities naturally

768
00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:58,319
Speaker 3: and how much work he puts in that says not

769
00:36:59,560 --> 00:37:02,760
Speaker 3: his fifth Your option wasn't declined because this staff doesn't

770
00:37:02,800 --> 00:37:05,040
Speaker 3: think that he has the heart or the desire right,

771
00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,239
Speaker 3: or the motivation or the focus by any means. You

772
00:37:08,400 --> 00:37:11,040
Speaker 3: just need to see is it worth how much they

773
00:37:11,040 --> 00:37:13,080
Speaker 3: would have had to spend, which I believe Darren in

774
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:16,239
Speaker 3: your mailbag or article would have been what a thirteen million.

775
00:37:16,120 --> 00:37:18,360
Speaker 4: I think it was thirteen point two if they would.

776
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:21,200
Speaker 3: Have guarantee to pay that next year. So this makes

777
00:37:21,239 --> 00:37:25,399
Speaker 3: a lot of sense. I do like also on top

778
00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:27,920
Speaker 3: of it, believe when general manager Moni austin Ford has

779
00:37:27,920 --> 00:37:30,000
Speaker 3: said that they like what they have seen in Xavion

780
00:37:30,160 --> 00:37:31,800
Speaker 3: and that they want him here in the future, I

781
00:37:31,880 --> 00:37:34,480
Speaker 3: think both of those things can be true. Of still

782
00:37:34,520 --> 00:37:37,319
Speaker 3: needing to see that jump and still needing what we

783
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:41,040
Speaker 3: have heard of the smarts and the IQ that Xavin

784
00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:44,600
Speaker 3: has and how meticulous and attentive to the details he

785
00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:46,880
Speaker 3: is as kind of meshing does to the point where

786
00:37:47,280 --> 00:37:50,040
Speaker 3: he's just reacting. He's not thinking throughout a play. He's

787
00:37:50,080 --> 00:37:52,480
Speaker 3: just able to react and go do what he does best.

788
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,200
Speaker 3: There's a lot of players around the league it really

789
00:37:55,400 --> 00:37:57,560
Speaker 3: feels more common than not to not have had a

790
00:37:57,560 --> 00:37:59,319
Speaker 3: fifth year option picked up this year.

791
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,880
Speaker 2: It's true, it does seem to be more the norm

792
00:38:03,040 --> 00:38:06,279
Speaker 2: than the exception. And your point about him being a

793
00:38:06,360 --> 00:38:10,120
Speaker 2: high IQ guy football and otherwise maybe working against him,

794
00:38:10,280 --> 00:38:13,120
Speaker 2: wasn't it. Jonathan Gannon in Florida made that comment.

795
00:38:13,040 --> 00:38:15,600
Speaker 4: Jonathan Gannon's I think they made that common a few

796
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 4: times about how xavi In tends to think too much,

797
00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:21,600
Speaker 4: but yeah, he specifically said it in Florida at the

798
00:38:21,600 --> 00:38:24,800
Speaker 4: owners meetings that you know, sometimes Zavin just needs to

799
00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 4: kind of get out of his own way.

800
00:38:26,600 --> 00:38:28,880
Speaker 2: And you know what, after two years as an inside

801
00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,840
Speaker 2: linebacker and having to call the defense and then react

802
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:33,920
Speaker 2: to what the offense is doing and make all the checks,

803
00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:37,400
Speaker 2: I mean, he was playing the quarterback of the defense.

804
00:38:37,440 --> 00:38:40,239
Speaker 2: He was in a thinking man's position. So now you

805
00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:43,600
Speaker 2: move positions, you move places on the defensive front, but

806
00:38:43,640 --> 00:38:46,720
Speaker 2: you're still thinking the game at a high degree. So okay,

807
00:38:46,960 --> 00:38:50,560
Speaker 2: let's see in a contract year approved year, with his

808
00:38:50,680 --> 00:38:53,040
Speaker 2: size and speed and his athletic ability, if he just

809
00:38:53,080 --> 00:38:56,759
Speaker 2: decides at a desperation and urgency just a letter rip.

810
00:38:57,440 --> 00:38:59,799
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm here for that. I'm curious to see

811
00:38:59,800 --> 00:39:02,719
Speaker 2: what that looks like for Xaving Collins. It it kind

812
00:39:02,719 --> 00:39:04,600
Speaker 2: of reminds me going back to the Tom Brady roast.

813
00:39:04,600 --> 00:39:06,680
Speaker 2: The comedian who was giving Gronk a hard time about

814
00:39:07,280 --> 00:39:09,200
Speaker 2: she started out and said, well, you know, Tom Brady

815
00:39:09,200 --> 00:39:12,680
Speaker 2: lost some thirty million in crypto. There's your bitcoin Bengo

816
00:39:12,760 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 2: card for you, Danny right there, the crypto mentioned and

817
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:17,200
Speaker 2: she said, I mean, Tom, what are you doing? Even

818
00:39:17,280 --> 00:39:20,120
Speaker 2: Gronk me Gronk No, not real money, right. She made

819
00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,400
Speaker 2: him sound like a Neanderthal with her impersonation of Gronkaan's

820
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:27,520
Speaker 2: like the exact opposite, right, I mean, this high IQ guy.

821
00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,319
Speaker 2: But sometimes you gotta be Gronk. Just just let her

822
00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,880
Speaker 2: rip like a Neanderthal and just go right and spike

823
00:39:32,960 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: the football. That's you know, sometimes that might work to

824
00:39:35,200 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 2: your benefit. So I don't know. Here's what you do.

825
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,680
Speaker 2: You take XAV and you bring him to the d

826
00:39:39,760 --> 00:39:41,239
Speaker 2: line room and you just start, you know, put some

827
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,759
Speaker 2: hieroglyphics up there, you know, some caveman stuff. Just go

828
00:39:43,840 --> 00:39:46,120
Speaker 2: you know, that's what you need to do. He probably

829
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:47,080
Speaker 2: wouldn't think that's too fun.

830
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:48,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, probably not.

831
00:39:48,080 --> 00:39:49,799
Speaker 2: I don't tell him. I said that. I don't tell him.

832
00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,880
Speaker 2: I said that, all right, he's got a cool classic

833
00:39:52,920 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 2: car though, I'll compliment that, right.

834
00:39:58,400 --> 00:40:01,359
Speaker 3: I hosted I hosted the Big Red Rage when it

835
00:40:01,400 --> 00:40:02,919
Speaker 3: was Zaven last year.

836
00:40:03,040 --> 00:40:05,040
Speaker 2: Oh that's right, okay, and like talking.

837
00:40:05,840 --> 00:40:08,759
Speaker 3: No, but talking on airon then in between commercials they

838
00:40:08,760 --> 00:40:09,560
Speaker 3: were bonding.

839
00:40:09,239 --> 00:40:12,920
Speaker 2: Over that that's duely noted Danny that you remember it

840
00:40:12,960 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 2: that well, So that tells you how Mazda. That's good.

841
00:40:19,600 --> 00:40:22,239
Speaker 2: So okay, we got that, Zavon. What else has been

842
00:40:22,280 --> 00:40:26,480
Speaker 2: a news here as a well? Okay, Kyler's been in

843
00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,719
Speaker 2: the news because you see Kyler above and beyond just

844
00:40:30,880 --> 00:40:34,600
Speaker 2: the off season activities at Cardinal's headquarters right the Dignity

845
00:40:34,640 --> 00:40:37,280
Speaker 2: Health Airs on a Cardinals training center. I mean, Darren,

846
00:40:37,719 --> 00:40:40,040
Speaker 2: you run this down. Where has Kyler been spotted and

847
00:40:40,040 --> 00:40:42,200
Speaker 2: what has he been up to, because you know you're

848
00:40:42,239 --> 00:40:44,040
Speaker 2: the one who's been tracking this on social media.

849
00:40:44,719 --> 00:40:47,719
Speaker 4: Well, I mean you've We've seen a few clips out him.

850
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:50,960
Speaker 4: He's apparently been working out at scottsdill Soor High School,

851
00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:53,560
Speaker 4: and we saw one a couple of weeks ago where

852
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,839
Speaker 4: he's actually throwing to some of his guys. I think

853
00:40:55,880 --> 00:40:59,600
Speaker 4: that was before Phase two got underway, if I recall correctly.

854
00:41:00,600 --> 00:41:02,640
Speaker 4: Because again, these guys are only allowed to do so

855
00:41:02,719 --> 00:41:05,759
Speaker 4: much on the field in terms of throwing the ball

856
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:09,560
Speaker 4: at certain points, and even now they only get to

857
00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:12,960
Speaker 4: be in the building for X amount of hours per

858
00:41:13,040 --> 00:41:16,359
Speaker 4: day slash per week. So it's not like even if

859
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,319
Speaker 4: a guy wanted to be here all day working out.

860
00:41:18,360 --> 00:41:20,040
Speaker 4: He can can't do that.

861
00:41:20,160 --> 00:41:22,160
Speaker 2: You know, I forgot about that. There's a ceiling, there's

862
00:41:22,160 --> 00:41:26,480
Speaker 2: a books. Oh yeah, oh absolutely, wow, Okay, interesting.

863
00:41:26,200 --> 00:41:29,000
Speaker 4: I mean that's this is Otherwise they'd be afraid that

864
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:33,799
Speaker 4: coaches would ask them to voluntarily be here forty hours

865
00:41:33,800 --> 00:41:34,080
Speaker 4: a week.

866
00:41:34,120 --> 00:41:35,600
Speaker 2: So that's why, like a couple of years ago he

867
00:41:35,640 --> 00:41:38,640
Speaker 2: saw Kyler bring guys to Texas. We've seen Patrick Mahoons

868
00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 2: bring guys to Texas.

869
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,000
Speaker 4: I mean some of that, some of that has to

870
00:41:41,040 --> 00:41:43,960
Speaker 4: do with doing it and off time, like for instance,

871
00:41:44,040 --> 00:41:46,640
Speaker 4: after mini camp is over, before training camp, there's some

872
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,239
Speaker 4: dead time that you might want to do it. But

873
00:41:49,320 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 4: in this case, I think they just get in some

874
00:41:51,600 --> 00:41:55,879
Speaker 4: extra work. And there was there's a clip that's out

875
00:41:55,920 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 4: there now not only of him throwing to Trey McBride

876
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:01,120
Speaker 4: and some of the receivers, but also him working out there,

877
00:42:01,120 --> 00:42:03,040
Speaker 4: and there was some construction workers out there at the

878
00:42:03,080 --> 00:42:07,000
Speaker 4: high school, and obviously Kyler said hello to them and

879
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:09,680
Speaker 4: threw a pass to one of them, took a picture

880
00:42:09,719 --> 00:42:12,279
Speaker 4: with one of them. So, I mean, it's nice to

881
00:42:12,320 --> 00:42:16,440
Speaker 4: see him kind of engaging with people outside in the

882
00:42:16,480 --> 00:42:19,400
Speaker 4: fan realm, but it also kind of underscores to me

883
00:42:19,560 --> 00:42:23,440
Speaker 4: again how much he's doing stuff. And yeah, at one

884
00:42:23,480 --> 00:42:25,960
Speaker 4: point somebody saw the video and said, oh, why wouldn't

885
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 4: he just work out with his own guys ten miles

886
00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:30,920
Speaker 4: down the road. He's doing both, and he's doing both

887
00:42:31,000 --> 00:42:33,319
Speaker 4: quite a bit. I mean, he's here all the time,

888
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:35,600
Speaker 4: he really is. And I've seen him a few times myself,

889
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:39,319
Speaker 4: and so, I mean, you just he's putting in the

890
00:42:39,320 --> 00:42:41,480
Speaker 4: work and I'm sure he's thrilled to be actually doing

891
00:42:41,520 --> 00:42:44,720
Speaker 4: football stuff and not rehab stuff.

892
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,360
Speaker 2: All right, So here's the question everybody's asking everyone in

893
00:42:48,400 --> 00:42:52,080
Speaker 2: Red Sea. All right, Bird Gang is wondering, when's the

894
00:42:52,120 --> 00:42:53,799
Speaker 2: first time we're going to see Kyler throw a past

895
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:56,799
Speaker 2: to Marvin Harrison Junior? When can somebody give me a date?

896
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:59,400
Speaker 2: When is that going to happen? Exactly? We don't know

897
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:02,200
Speaker 2: the NFL's schedule, but do we know the practice schedule?

898
00:43:02,800 --> 00:43:05,239
Speaker 2: When will Kyler throw a past to Marvin Harrison Junior?

899
00:43:05,320 --> 00:43:08,239
Speaker 4: I mean it will probably be one near Tuesday of

900
00:43:08,360 --> 00:43:09,920
Speaker 4: next week.

901
00:43:09,760 --> 00:43:13,000
Speaker 2: Because rookie camp then morse into phase three.

902
00:43:13,120 --> 00:43:15,799
Speaker 4: No, we're still in phase two, but they get it wrong.

903
00:43:15,880 --> 00:43:18,719
Speaker 2: They can throw passes, okay, all right, So then the

904
00:43:18,800 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 2: rookies can join the veterans effective Monday.

905
00:43:21,200 --> 00:43:23,720
Speaker 3: Well, here's the follow up question. What number is Marvin

906
00:43:23,760 --> 00:43:24,720
Speaker 3: Harrison Junior wearing?

907
00:43:25,120 --> 00:43:27,640
Speaker 2: Oh, Danny, now, okay, Well she went for the third

908
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:28,160
Speaker 2: rail there.

909
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:31,279
Speaker 4: I have no idea. You'll have to ask Mark Darren.

910
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,319
Speaker 2: How many forms of that question have you received in

911
00:43:34,360 --> 00:43:36,959
Speaker 2: the mail bag? Another prop bet what's the over under

912
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:40,240
Speaker 2: on in some form of that Marvin Harrison Junior number

913
00:43:40,320 --> 00:43:42,319
Speaker 2: question that you've received in the mail bag?

914
00:43:42,520 --> 00:43:44,919
Speaker 4: In the mail bag? Yeah, it's only been It's only

915
00:43:44,920 --> 00:43:47,600
Speaker 4: been a handful. Really, Yeah, but I've gotten a bunch

916
00:43:47,640 --> 00:43:50,560
Speaker 4: on Twitter. And but there's not I mean, there's nothing

917
00:43:50,560 --> 00:43:55,040
Speaker 4: to report. Like I people will know when there's something

918
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:57,359
Speaker 4: to report. And the thing is is he could pick

919
00:43:57,480 --> 00:43:59,399
Speaker 4: he's going to have a number for rookie mini camp,

920
00:43:59,440 --> 00:44:01,480
Speaker 4: but it very well might not be the number that

921
00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:02,239
Speaker 4: he ends up with.

922
00:44:02,320 --> 00:44:04,640
Speaker 3: Right because Bijo Julari does not seem like he's given

923
00:44:04,680 --> 00:44:05,240
Speaker 3: up eighteen.

924
00:44:06,960 --> 00:44:09,399
Speaker 2: I wonder if there are fierce negotiations going on behind

925
00:44:09,440 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: the scenes, somebody needs to look into that.

926
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:12,680
Speaker 3: I wonder I vote you, Paul.

927
00:44:13,800 --> 00:44:17,360
Speaker 2: I'll do that right after I pose the following question.

928
00:44:17,600 --> 00:44:21,120
Speaker 2: Darren accused me earlier of stirring up at times. Okay,

929
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:23,319
Speaker 2: so what I might do, what I need to do.

930
00:44:23,440 --> 00:44:24,640
Speaker 2: I used to do this back in the day. I'm

931
00:44:24,640 --> 00:44:26,759
Speaker 2: going to bring a big old soup spoon out here, right,

932
00:44:26,760 --> 00:44:29,120
Speaker 2: and when I have this question that might be apt

933
00:44:29,200 --> 00:44:31,800
Speaker 2: to stir things up, I'll break out the soup spoon

934
00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:35,920
Speaker 2: because the question goes something like this, is a realistic

935
00:44:36,040 --> 00:44:40,560
Speaker 2: to think that Marvin Harrison Junior will have a sudden impact,

936
00:44:40,600 --> 00:44:43,359
Speaker 2: an instant impact along the lines of what we saw

937
00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:46,880
Speaker 2: by Justin Jefferson in twenty twenty as a rookie and

938
00:44:46,960 --> 00:44:50,400
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase in twenty twenty one as a rookie. And

939
00:44:50,480 --> 00:44:52,960
Speaker 2: I did the legwork, so you don't have to Justin

940
00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:56,399
Speaker 2: Jefferson in twenty twenty Danny as a rookie eighty eight

941
00:44:56,480 --> 00:45:01,439
Speaker 2: catches for an even fourteen hundred yards, receiving seven touchdowns

942
00:45:01,560 --> 00:45:05,000
Speaker 2: and a Pro Bowl. Jamar Chase the following year is

943
00:45:05,000 --> 00:45:08,200
Speaker 2: a rookie eighty one grabs for one four hundred and

944
00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:14,000
Speaker 2: fifty five yards, thirteen touchdowns, a Pro Bowl in offensive

945
00:45:14,080 --> 00:45:18,239
Speaker 2: Rookie of the Year. Are we out of line to

946
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:23,600
Speaker 2: throw Marvin Harrison Junior somewhere in that neighborhood when it

947
00:45:23,640 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 2: comes to expectations.

948
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:27,680
Speaker 3: I don't think so. Based on what he did on

949
00:45:27,760 --> 00:45:31,280
Speaker 3: such a consistent level in college and just the skill

950
00:45:31,320 --> 00:45:34,680
Speaker 3: set and the size and the ability that we've seen

951
00:45:35,520 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 3: so far in his career, I don't think so. And

952
00:45:38,360 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: you pair that with a quarterback that has the strength

953
00:45:42,840 --> 00:45:47,200
Speaker 3: and the accuracy and the abilities that Kyler does, I

954
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,319
Speaker 3: think that's a really great pairing as well. And then

955
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:53,640
Speaker 3: you've added some really great blockers, and you've still got

956
00:45:53,680 --> 00:45:56,960
Speaker 3: other receivers that are going to allow Marvin Harrison Junior

957
00:45:57,000 --> 00:45:59,239
Speaker 3: to be open. I mean, let's not forget that Trey

958
00:45:59,320 --> 00:46:01,879
Speaker 3: McBride is going to demand a lot of attention right

959
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 3: off the bat, like that's going to be a big

960
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:10,080
Speaker 3: target as well. So it's not like Marvin Harrison Junior

961
00:46:10,120 --> 00:46:12,880
Speaker 3: is going to be the only player worth blocking for

962
00:46:12,920 --> 00:46:15,319
Speaker 3: these defenses. I mean, Michael Wilson, There's there's gonna be

963
00:46:15,480 --> 00:46:19,520
Speaker 3: enough other threats to where I feel like Marvin is

964
00:46:19,560 --> 00:46:20,400
Speaker 3: going to be open.

965
00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,920
Speaker 4: I don't think it's I don't think it's terrible to

966
00:46:24,960 --> 00:46:27,160
Speaker 4: have expectations. I don't I don't know if he's going

967
00:46:27,200 --> 00:46:30,160
Speaker 4: to be that impactful with how they're going to play

968
00:46:30,160 --> 00:46:33,319
Speaker 4: offense and who else they have around them. I could

969
00:46:33,360 --> 00:46:34,120
Speaker 4: be wrong.

970
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:37,520
Speaker 2: Because they did have a top five run game last year. Yeah,

971
00:46:37,800 --> 00:46:39,920
Speaker 2: and most of last year it was run first.

972
00:46:40,120 --> 00:46:43,239
Speaker 4: Yes, So I I mean, I'm not saying he won't

973
00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:45,680
Speaker 4: have a thousand yards. I don't know if I'd be

974
00:46:45,719 --> 00:46:48,799
Speaker 4: looking for him to have fourteen hundred yards and thirteen touchdowns,

975
00:46:48,840 --> 00:46:53,200
Speaker 4: that's that that might be a little much. And we're

976
00:46:53,320 --> 00:46:56,600
Speaker 4: we're talking just I mean as a rookie. I mean again,

977
00:46:57,440 --> 00:47:00,799
Speaker 4: we're not playing video games, and we're not you know,

978
00:47:00,840 --> 00:47:02,719
Speaker 4: we we don't know exactly how this is going to

979
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:04,680
Speaker 4: play out and what it's going to look like. But

980
00:47:05,120 --> 00:47:07,600
Speaker 4: we also don't know, like I know Danny was talking about,

981
00:47:07,680 --> 00:47:11,360
Speaker 4: you know, Trey McBride getting attention always assuming Trey McBride's

982
00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:13,400
Speaker 4: going to get the attention to that. Marvin Harrison Junior,

983
00:47:13,640 --> 00:47:15,960
Speaker 4: I mean, there might be teams that just decide out

984
00:47:15,960 --> 00:47:18,320
Speaker 4: of the box, we're not gonna let this guy beat us,

985
00:47:19,120 --> 00:47:19,480
Speaker 4: don't know.

986
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:23,960
Speaker 2: I just like when we had him in this radio

987
00:47:24,000 --> 00:47:27,359
Speaker 2: studio and Marvin Harrison Junior, when Craig Griolu asked him,

988
00:47:27,400 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: you know how much of your father's game is in yours?

989
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 2: And he immediately said a lot. And then it reminded

990
00:47:32,640 --> 00:47:35,040
Speaker 2: me of what Mani asin Ford said on Draft night

991
00:47:35,160 --> 00:47:37,520
Speaker 2: that he's a bigger receiver who runs routes like a

992
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 2: smaller receiver, Because yeah, he runs routes like his dad,

993
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 2: except he's much taller and he has a much bigger

994
00:47:44,080 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 2: frame and a bigger, bigger target area for his quarterbacks.

995
00:47:47,320 --> 00:47:50,319
Speaker 2: So and then I followed up by asking him, look,

996
00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:52,880
Speaker 2: we all know there's pressure with having that Harrison Junior

997
00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:54,919
Speaker 2: on the back of your jersey, as you see right there,

998
00:47:55,400 --> 00:47:57,640
Speaker 2: and he admitted as much. But I then asked him

999
00:47:57,640 --> 00:47:59,440
Speaker 2: how much does that drive you? How much has it

1000
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,040
Speaker 2: driven you over your career, and he said absolutely, It's

1001
00:48:03,120 --> 00:48:06,239
Speaker 2: completely driven me to try and match or exceed my

1002
00:48:06,360 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 2: dad's exploits. So when we inevitably brought up Larry Fitzgerald,

1003
00:48:10,200 --> 00:48:12,759
Speaker 2: guess what Marvin Irrison Junior is used to that. He's

1004
00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:14,480
Speaker 2: been there and done that, so you can make all

1005
00:48:14,480 --> 00:48:16,920
Speaker 2: the fits comparisons you want. His dad's a Hall of

1006
00:48:16,920 --> 00:48:20,799
Speaker 2: Famer just like Larry will be real soon. So I

1007
00:48:20,960 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 2: just that combined with the fact that he had to

1008
00:48:24,120 --> 00:48:26,680
Speaker 2: walk into Ohio State And I know I might have

1009
00:48:26,760 --> 00:48:28,360
Speaker 2: mentioned this, but I'm going to say it again because

1010
00:48:28,400 --> 00:48:30,399
Speaker 2: he added a name when I said, you went in

1011
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:33,440
Speaker 2: as a true freshman. You competed against Garrett Wilson and

1012
00:48:33,719 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: Chris Olave and Jackson Smith and Jigba, all first round picks,

1013
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:39,040
Speaker 2: and he threw out there, Yeah, don't forget Jamison Williams,

1014
00:48:39,520 --> 00:48:44,280
Speaker 2: who was at Ohio State. Good transferred Alabama four first rounders,

1015
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,880
Speaker 2: five if you include Marvin Errison junior as a true freshman.

1016
00:48:46,920 --> 00:48:48,279
Speaker 2: And he said, there was a board up in the

1017
00:48:48,320 --> 00:48:52,239
Speaker 2: receiver room they tracked catches, targets, drops. Said, you didn't

1018
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: want to be last on that board. So you talk

1019
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,839
Speaker 2: about five guys pushing each other, all of whom ended

1020
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:01,200
Speaker 2: up being first round picks in the NFL. And all

1021
00:49:01,239 --> 00:49:03,719
Speaker 2: those guys had. Now Jamison Williams was hurt to begin

1022
00:49:03,800 --> 00:49:06,680
Speaker 2: his rookie year, missed his entire rookie year, But I

1023
00:49:06,680 --> 00:49:08,719
Speaker 2: mean those are guys who had instant impact as well.

1024
00:49:08,840 --> 00:49:12,239
Speaker 2: So I'm curious if he is indeed wide receiver one

1025
00:49:12,760 --> 00:49:16,279
Speaker 2: like Justin Jefferson was. Justin Jefferson was in Minnesota, like

1026
00:49:16,360 --> 00:49:20,000
Speaker 2: Jamar Chase was with Cincinnati, And I most definitely see

1027
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:23,840
Speaker 2: the possibility even putting up big numbers like that, especially

1028
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,880
Speaker 2: if last year's Kramitt vertical was by necessity? To what

1029
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: degree Didrew Petsing say last year, you know what, we

1030
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:34,120
Speaker 2: don't have our franchise quarterback. In fact, we didn't even

1031
00:49:34,160 --> 00:49:37,080
Speaker 2: have our quarterback during training camp, right, we didn't have

1032
00:49:37,160 --> 00:49:40,360
Speaker 2: him during practice in August. We just brought in Josh

1033
00:49:40,400 --> 00:49:43,480
Speaker 2: Dobbs after moving away from Cole McCoy. At the end

1034
00:49:43,520 --> 00:49:46,200
Speaker 2: of August. We had eight practices to get him ready

1035
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,520
Speaker 2: for the regular season. How much of the Cardinals offense

1036
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:53,719
Speaker 2: was by necessity instead of by design? Are you going

1037
00:49:53,800 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 2: to see a much more balanced offense this year?

1038
00:49:56,800 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: We might? And maybe that is it. Maybe it was

1039
00:49:59,200 --> 00:50:01,480
Speaker 4: just maybe all the right was about playing keep away

1040
00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:03,520
Speaker 4: because you knew your defense wasn't that good. I don't know.

1041
00:50:03,800 --> 00:50:06,480
Speaker 2: Or your franchise quarterback got his first reps with his

1042
00:50:06,560 --> 00:50:09,560
Speaker 2: receivers in the middle of the regular season. How was

1043
00:50:09,600 --> 00:50:12,000
Speaker 2: he supposed to develop chemistry? So now, if you have

1044
00:50:12,000 --> 00:50:15,759
Speaker 2: an entire offseason, okay, I mean, coaches aren't gonna call

1045
00:50:15,840 --> 00:50:18,320
Speaker 2: something they don't trust, so they're gonna have to see it.

1046
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:20,560
Speaker 2: And if they do see it materialized in the offseason

1047
00:50:20,560 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: and through training camp in the preseason, then hey, maybe

1048
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:25,360
Speaker 2: this is gonna be much more of an aerial attack

1049
00:50:25,400 --> 00:50:26,080
Speaker 2: than we ever thought.

1050
00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:28,040
Speaker 3: I also feel like I don't have the numbers in

1051
00:50:28,040 --> 00:50:30,000
Speaker 3: front of me. It just felt like the Cardinals struggled

1052
00:50:30,080 --> 00:50:31,960
Speaker 3: in the red zone and so you'd have to just

1053
00:50:32,040 --> 00:50:34,040
Speaker 3: kind of rely on the run game a lot there.

1054
00:50:34,560 --> 00:50:36,319
Speaker 3: I would expect that to be different when you have

1055
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:38,279
Speaker 3: Harrison out there, and I would expect him to be

1056
00:50:38,400 --> 00:50:39,240
Speaker 3: your main target.

1057
00:50:39,560 --> 00:50:43,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, and especially here's one area where Kyler was really

1058
00:50:43,600 --> 00:50:45,719
Speaker 2: good his first couple of years. And I don't have

1059
00:50:45,760 --> 00:50:47,640
Speaker 2: the numbers to back this up as a gut feelings.

1060
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:49,160
Speaker 2: You guys tell me if I'm off base or not,

1061
00:50:49,200 --> 00:50:51,960
Speaker 2: and I know you will. Kyler is a weapon in

1062
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,719
Speaker 2: the red zone with his legs, like we saw it

1063
00:50:54,760 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 2: famously two years ago Week two in Vegas. Obviously, but

1064
00:51:00,080 --> 00:51:03,359
Speaker 2: I think there's still more potential there. There's more under

1065
00:51:03,360 --> 00:51:06,480
Speaker 2: the hood Kyler in the red zone just tuck it

1066
00:51:06,520 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 2: and run it.

1067
00:51:07,400 --> 00:51:09,440
Speaker 4: And you think why they didn't do as much of

1068
00:51:09,440 --> 00:51:11,320
Speaker 4: it last year because of the knee.

1069
00:51:11,640 --> 00:51:14,839
Speaker 2: Yes, and I think to Danny's point, maybe there weren't

1070
00:51:14,920 --> 00:51:19,440
Speaker 2: enough weapons taking enough of the defense's attention away. You know,

1071
00:51:19,680 --> 00:51:22,960
Speaker 2: once once you have to put a linebacker. You're forced

1072
00:51:23,000 --> 00:51:26,279
Speaker 2: to put a linebacker on Kyler as some sort of spy. Well,

1073
00:51:26,400 --> 00:51:28,839
Speaker 2: game over, he's being that linebacker to the pylon. Right.

1074
00:51:29,080 --> 00:51:31,600
Speaker 2: What Drew Petsing told the media the other day, The

1075
00:51:31,640 --> 00:51:34,359
Speaker 2: one thing that I found out about Kyler field level

1076
00:51:34,440 --> 00:51:37,000
Speaker 2: during the game was, Wow, he's faster than I thought

1077
00:51:37,000 --> 00:51:39,399
Speaker 2: he was. And it is true when you watch him

1078
00:51:39,440 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 2: field level during a game, like, oh man, he can scoot.

1079
00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:44,840
Speaker 2: This isn't just a fast quarterback. This is a fast

1080
00:51:44,840 --> 00:51:49,040
Speaker 2: player for a corner or a receiver. Like it's legit

1081
00:51:49,160 --> 00:51:52,840
Speaker 2: four to three speed. So that's one thing that I

1082
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,040
Speaker 2: remember when Kyler was drafted number one overall in twenty nineteen,

1083
00:51:56,040 --> 00:51:59,000
Speaker 2: we just envisioned him as being unstoppable in the red zone,

1084
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: the ability to run or pass. And I still think

1085
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,279
Speaker 2: there's more to be developed there and featured there in

1086
00:52:04,400 --> 00:52:05,200
Speaker 2: terms of his scheme.

1087
00:52:05,760 --> 00:52:08,400
Speaker 4: Yeah, although they look he looked pretty much that in

1088
00:52:08,480 --> 00:52:10,400
Speaker 4: early twenty twenty one when things were clearing.

1089
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:12,279
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, you're right, you're right, seven and zero, ten

1090
00:52:12,360 --> 00:52:15,319
Speaker 2: and two. You're right. There have been flashes, no doubt

1091
00:52:15,320 --> 00:52:19,839
Speaker 2: about that. So but yeah, it was great to see

1092
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:21,880
Speaker 2: the whole you know, going up to the construction workers

1093
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:25,479
Speaker 2: and you know, greeting them and just just the look

1094
00:52:25,960 --> 00:52:29,320
Speaker 2: on the construction worker's face like Okay, this is really happening.

1095
00:52:29,360 --> 00:52:32,160
Speaker 2: Here's Kyler Murray and just you know, chopping it up

1096
00:52:32,200 --> 00:52:34,520
Speaker 2: with him a little bit. So all right, So there's

1097
00:52:34,520 --> 00:52:38,680
Speaker 2: my answer, Kyler to Marvin Harrison Junior, effective early next week,

1098
00:52:38,760 --> 00:52:40,400
Speaker 2: which might be about the same time we get the

1099
00:52:41,239 --> 00:52:45,720
Speaker 2: NFL schedule. So there's that one can help Paul, we see.

1100
00:52:45,560 --> 00:52:47,160
Speaker 4: Why'd you have to pull that scam? There?

1101
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:48,680
Speaker 3: Paul can help.

1102
00:52:48,760 --> 00:52:51,760
Speaker 2: Yeah. So all right, anything else you guys are looking

1103
00:52:51,760 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 2: for during this rookie camp that's front burner. Anyone else,

1104
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,319
Speaker 2: anything else that you want to see that's intriguing. I mean,

1105
00:52:59,400 --> 00:53:01,880
Speaker 2: come on, now, is there a name out here? You

1106
00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:03,800
Speaker 2: know the You're like, okay, you know, I want to

1107
00:53:03,840 --> 00:53:06,640
Speaker 2: see this guy in person. For example, I'll go with

1108
00:53:06,680 --> 00:53:10,920
Speaker 2: the Xavier Weaver out of Colorado, the undrafted rookie, you know, receiver.

1109
00:53:10,920 --> 00:53:13,200
Speaker 2: I want to see him. I want to see Tejon Palmer,

1110
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:15,560
Speaker 2: the sixth rounder out of UA B.

1111
00:53:15,719 --> 00:53:17,480
Speaker 4: You're already trying to push them out of jobs by

1112
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:18,320
Speaker 4: signing a veteran.

1113
00:53:18,680 --> 00:53:22,320
Speaker 2: I'm just nothing wrong with competition, you know, and practice

1114
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,120
Speaker 2: squad could be a possibility for either guy. You know. Look,

1115
00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:27,879
Speaker 2: it's the reality of the NFL. You know, look, young man,

1116
00:53:29,040 --> 00:53:31,279
Speaker 2: every year, your GM is going to try and replace you.

1117
00:53:31,400 --> 00:53:33,319
Speaker 2: That's just the way it works. It's his job to

1118
00:53:33,560 --> 00:53:36,000
Speaker 2: evolve and improve the entire roster.

1119
00:53:36,360 --> 00:53:38,680
Speaker 3: I'd like to see Trey Benson. I know he's not

1120
00:53:38,719 --> 00:53:40,960
Speaker 3: going to be running through defenses, but how's he look

1121
00:53:41,000 --> 00:53:44,239
Speaker 3: caring the rock? And also a first look at tip

1122
00:53:44,320 --> 00:53:47,560
Speaker 3: Riman the tight end of not only blocking drills, but like,

1123
00:53:47,640 --> 00:53:50,960
Speaker 3: let let's see where where where is the starting point

1124
00:53:51,000 --> 00:53:52,240
Speaker 3: of him as a receiver.

1125
00:53:52,480 --> 00:53:57,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's I want to see. I mean it's six five,

1126
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:01,040
Speaker 2: two seventy one and he runs a force for Yeah,

1127
00:54:01,040 --> 00:54:03,800
Speaker 2: I just want to see that, even in shorts and

1128
00:54:03,840 --> 00:54:05,680
Speaker 2: a T shirt. Let's just see that guy, you know,

1129
00:54:05,920 --> 00:54:07,879
Speaker 2: just uh, you know, what's it look like out there?

1130
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,920
Speaker 2: Because Darren, I'm just warning you right now. With tip Ryman,

1131
00:54:10,960 --> 00:54:14,360
Speaker 2: if he's everything that Wolf expects him to be, embrace yourself,

1132
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,960
Speaker 2: Red Sea for you know, Wolf going uh, you know

1133
00:54:17,480 --> 00:54:20,359
Speaker 2: crazy over tip Ryman. We might have to dust off

1134
00:54:20,360 --> 00:54:22,960
Speaker 2: our old word jack stomp. It just seems fitting with

1135
00:54:23,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 2: tip Ryman jack stomp, you know, we'll see if he

1136
00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:26,640
Speaker 2: delivers it.

1137
00:54:26,680 --> 00:54:33,080
Speaker 4: I hope somebody warns Tip about Wolf. Will Tip be

1138
00:54:33,160 --> 00:54:34,080
Speaker 4: wearing a neck roll?

1139
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,080
Speaker 2: So I was. I was filling in a Wolf's radio

1140
00:54:37,080 --> 00:54:39,879
Speaker 2: show about a month ago, and uh, they brought Trey

1141
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:42,160
Speaker 2: McBride on because he was fresh off the USO trip

1142
00:54:42,200 --> 00:54:46,839
Speaker 2: to Poland. It's March, and Wolf asks him, what's your

1143
00:54:46,840 --> 00:54:47,560
Speaker 2: weight at.

1144
00:54:49,160 --> 00:54:49,200
Speaker 1: It?

1145
00:54:49,400 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: Just uh yeah, sort of.

1146
00:54:51,120 --> 00:54:53,279
Speaker 4: He doesn't He doesn't ask like a radio guy. He's

1147
00:54:53,320 --> 00:54:55,879
Speaker 4: asking like an irritated coach, right like.

1148
00:54:55,880 --> 00:54:58,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I don't. I don't know. I don't. I really

1149
00:54:58,560 --> 00:55:00,319
Speaker 2: at this point, I don't know what the motivation it is.

1150
00:55:00,360 --> 00:55:01,000
Speaker 2: I just don't get it.

1151
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:03,720
Speaker 4: Are you ready to block down on that defensive lineman

1152
00:55:03,800 --> 00:55:04,200
Speaker 4: right now?

1153
00:55:04,239 --> 00:55:09,359
Speaker 2: I just yeah, So, oh my goodness, So okay, I'm

1154
00:55:09,360 --> 00:55:12,200
Speaker 2: looking here at anything else? Uh. In terms of by

1155
00:55:12,200 --> 00:55:14,600
Speaker 2: the way, did I tell you what Kyle Vanenbosch said

1156
00:55:14,640 --> 00:55:17,359
Speaker 2: about Tip Ryman and just the style with which Tip

1157
00:55:17,440 --> 00:55:20,759
Speaker 2: Ryman plays and the position that Kyle Vanibosch used to

1158
00:55:20,760 --> 00:55:23,560
Speaker 2: play and he was known as playing with an edge

1159
00:55:23,560 --> 00:55:26,839
Speaker 2: a little bit surly, And he said, uh, he said,

1160
00:55:26,880 --> 00:55:29,040
Speaker 2: oh yeah, there would be a lot of camp fights

1161
00:55:29,360 --> 00:55:31,040
Speaker 2: me and Tip Ryman. I can tell you right now.

1162
00:55:31,239 --> 00:55:33,319
Speaker 2: I said, what, how many three? He's like three in

1163
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:37,080
Speaker 2: a day, forget three in camp. So we'll see. We'll

1164
00:55:37,080 --> 00:55:40,839
Speaker 2: see if anybody, uh you know, gets irked and all

1165
00:55:40,840 --> 00:55:42,920
Speaker 2: of a sudden rooting in a too and womping in

1166
00:55:42,960 --> 00:55:46,040
Speaker 2: a stomping tip ryman against player to be named later.

1167
00:55:46,280 --> 00:55:49,280
Speaker 2: That's uh, that's that's the early prop be on who's

1168
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,000
Speaker 2: most likely to get into a camp fight.

1169
00:55:51,040 --> 00:55:54,600
Speaker 3: At this point, I feel Will Hernandez again, that's one

1170
00:55:54,600 --> 00:55:56,080
Speaker 3: of these new d linemen.

1171
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:57,279
Speaker 4: Taking the low hanging fruit.

1172
00:55:57,680 --> 00:56:00,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, I am, well that's true. I mean will engage

1173
00:56:00,560 --> 00:56:02,840
Speaker 2: JJ Watt once upon a time two years ago.

1174
00:56:03,000 --> 00:56:06,759
Speaker 3: Like Bolonicals or Justin Jones and a Will Hernandez.

1175
00:56:07,760 --> 00:56:10,000
Speaker 2: All right, Well, final word goes to Eli Manning. I

1176
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,399
Speaker 2: guess who sent out a tweet quote. I thought about

1177
00:56:13,400 --> 00:56:15,640
Speaker 2: attending the roast to Tom Brady last night, but I

1178
00:56:15,680 --> 00:56:17,959
Speaker 2: did not want to roast him for a third time.

1179
00:56:18,920 --> 00:56:23,040
Speaker 2: Eli Manning, Well done and well said, as we are

1180
00:56:23,160 --> 00:56:26,120
Speaker 2: just merely pawns waiting for the release of the NFL schedule.

1181
00:56:26,200 --> 00:56:28,640
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