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Speaker 1: I listen to the black Dio Tips podcast because Rod

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Speaker 1: and Karen. Hey, welcome to another episode of the Blackouts podcast.

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Speaker 1: I'm your host Rod, joined us always by my co

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Speaker 1: host Kim, and we're live on the Saturday night ready

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Speaker 1: to do some podcasting.

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Speaker 2: It's a feedback episode.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna talk about all the things that you had

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Speaker 2: It's all meta and shit.

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Speaker 1: The official weapon of the show is takes, an unofficial

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Speaker 1: The don't you know, don't forget y'all hook us up,

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Speaker 1: long as they're nice. So make sure y'all do that

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Speaker 1: and find it. But we have links on our social media.

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Speaker 1: But we have a live show coming up celebrating Charlotte

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Speaker 1: Podcast Week.

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Speaker 2: We'll be at the Charlotte Podcast Festival.

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Speaker 1: It's at the Bloomenthal Center for Performing Arts September twenty third,

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Speaker 1: my birthday, September twenty third, seven thirty pm. Right now,

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Speaker 1: it's just in person tickets on sale. The the virtual

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Speaker 1: tickets we'll go on sale soon. We're working out with

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Speaker 1: but that's figured out. We're gonna put you pumping those

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Speaker 2: So if you can't make it in person, that's fine.

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Speaker 1: We know it's a weird time right now, but we

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Speaker 1: If you can make it in person, you just know

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Speaker 1: we're gonna be socially distancing, no meet and greet, no

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Speaker 1: would strongly suggest that you do be vaccinated. Okay, don't play.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so I'll put the link in the show notes.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we thank you for people that have already purchased

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Speaker 3: the tickets, and we thank you for the people that

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Speaker 3: but in case somebody wants to go and can't afford

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Speaker 1: I think you can't send me the PDF files for

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Speaker 1: Now let's get into y'all's feedback because there's a lot

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Speaker 1: up in a sticky situation, which obviously the only way

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00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 1: to avoid it is to not be in the contest,

434
00:22:36,040 --> 00:22:39,119
Speaker 1: which then kind of goes into that murky territory of

435
00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:41,720
Speaker 1: what are we really trying to establish here and who

436
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:45,760
Speaker 1: decides that you know, right, I've been heavy in the cosplay,

437
00:22:45,920 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 1: and I know when I show up to a standard

438
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,840
Speaker 1: con that isn't inclusive, that my efforts would go underappreciated

439
00:22:51,920 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 1: because I know the general public is thinking, yeah, but

440
00:22:53,880 --> 00:22:58,679
Speaker 1: the lord's umbrage isn't black though, or oh, that's an

441
00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,840
Speaker 1: interesting take on the black black tartists. The only time

442
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,680
Speaker 1: the needle has ever moved from me was when I

443
00:23:03,760 --> 00:23:08,680
Speaker 1: went to a con as your well hera O hera.

444
00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:10,560
Speaker 1: I hope I said that, right, y'all know from Star

445
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:15,080
Speaker 1: Trek black well black woman, I did. I don't know

446
00:23:15,280 --> 00:23:19,960
Speaker 1: if it's because people didn't have to think it's hard

447
00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,240
Speaker 1: to figure out who I was. Oh yeah, this is

448
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 1: rather disappointed, but it didn't prevent me from wanting to

449
00:23:26,680 --> 00:23:28,040
Speaker 1: go to next year. Damn.

450
00:23:28,080 --> 00:23:31,320
Speaker 3: What's so funny is it's amazing how black and brown

451
00:23:31,359 --> 00:23:33,639
Speaker 3: people can look at you and automatically know who you are,

452
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:35,200
Speaker 3: but white people got to be like, I don't no,

453
00:23:35,440 --> 00:23:37,520
Speaker 3: bet you got the whole outfit on, I know who

454
00:23:37,600 --> 00:23:37,920
Speaker 3: you are.

455
00:23:38,160 --> 00:23:40,880
Speaker 1: Meanwhile, a lot of this nerve shit is not white people.

456
00:23:41,080 --> 00:23:45,000
Speaker 1: So it's like if they're a white person and they're

457
00:23:45,080 --> 00:23:48,399
Speaker 1: dressing it as a soccer costume. We don't have to

458
00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,400
Speaker 1: have a moment of like, are you you're a white

459
00:23:51,480 --> 00:23:54,120
Speaker 1: soccer up right? But it's only when a black person

460
00:23:54,200 --> 00:23:56,680
Speaker 1: does that it becomes oh, it's black soccer or it's

461
00:23:56,720 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 1: black Naruto.

462
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:00,600
Speaker 3: It's like, wait a minute, what does that means?

463
00:24:01,720 --> 00:24:02,119
Speaker 1: Not white?

464
00:24:02,680 --> 00:24:04,320
Speaker 3: He ain't black either.

465
00:24:04,600 --> 00:24:06,800
Speaker 1: M Dog says, to be honest, I felt bad at

466
00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: how much folks went hard at that white girl. It

467
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,199
Speaker 1: sounds to me like she wanted to show off her costume.

468
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:13,840
Speaker 1: It was a good ass costume. Having been local and

469
00:24:14,080 --> 00:24:16,240
Speaker 1: at the blur com multiple times, it's always a good

470
00:24:16,280 --> 00:24:18,160
Speaker 1: time if people genuinely do not care if you're black

471
00:24:18,280 --> 00:24:18,440
Speaker 1: or not.

472
00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:20,520
Speaker 2: I personally don't didn't care too.

473
00:24:20,520 --> 00:24:22,320
Speaker 1: Much about this, to be honest, until I saw the

474
00:24:22,400 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 1: other cosplayer outfits, and the outfits while there there were

475
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:29,600
Speaker 1: definitely impressive. I don't know much about the rules, so

476
00:24:29,720 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: it may be that the other cosplayers weren't in the

477
00:24:32,119 --> 00:24:34,960
Speaker 1: right criteria, or as you said, weren't there. Yeah, I

478
00:24:35,040 --> 00:24:36,840
Speaker 1: did see people, and this is a kind of a

479
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,680
Speaker 1: trick that a lot of people were doing online cause

480
00:24:39,760 --> 00:24:41,800
Speaker 1: like what it's the controversy stars, there are people that

481
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 1: were like riling it up, so one thing people were

482
00:24:44,320 --> 00:24:48,479
Speaker 1: doing with Sharon costumes, the people who weren't in the contest, right,

483
00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,399
Speaker 1: and being like this bitch costume was better than this.

484
00:24:51,560 --> 00:24:52,520
Speaker 2: It's like, well that.

485
00:24:52,640 --> 00:24:57,120
Speaker 1: Person didn't actually compete, right, so you really like that's

486
00:24:57,240 --> 00:24:59,679
Speaker 1: not that that's technically not what happened.

487
00:25:00,200 --> 00:25:01,560
Speaker 2: And this happens a lot online.

488
00:25:01,640 --> 00:25:06,800
Speaker 1: I saw uh Novak Djokovic talked about his mental health

489
00:25:07,080 --> 00:25:12,119
Speaker 1: and about his mentality and how he doesn't uh you know,

490
00:25:12,280 --> 00:25:14,359
Speaker 1: as a champion, he's this and he doesn't quit. At

491
00:25:14,359 --> 00:25:16,760
Speaker 1: the Olympics, he's gonna do this, and he lost, and

492
00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:19,399
Speaker 1: he also threw a temperature on the way out, and

493
00:25:19,600 --> 00:25:23,119
Speaker 1: instead of people just saying that's what happened, they shared

494
00:25:23,200 --> 00:25:26,440
Speaker 1: and and said he was asked about Simon bows mental

495
00:25:26,520 --> 00:25:29,680
Speaker 1: health and he said this stuff about not being a

496
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:31,560
Speaker 1: quitter and you can't give up.

497
00:25:31,560 --> 00:25:34,800
Speaker 3: And I just know how to win Stefeni out of context, right,

498
00:25:35,080 --> 00:25:35,359
Speaker 3: And so.

499
00:25:35,520 --> 00:25:38,320
Speaker 1: Of course people then started, oh, look at this shit,

500
00:25:38,600 --> 00:25:41,800
Speaker 1: this motherfucker talk about Simons blah blah blah. Turns out

501
00:25:41,840 --> 00:25:46,080
Speaker 1: that's now what happened at all. So but but does

502
00:25:46,119 --> 00:25:49,760
Speaker 1: an element even within black folks, of how can I

503
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:52,640
Speaker 1: make what happened look even worse, Yes.

504
00:25:52,720 --> 00:25:54,399
Speaker 3: Because then I can make it about me and me

505
00:25:54,480 --> 00:25:57,159
Speaker 3: grandstanding because I'm better than them and whatever the reason is.

506
00:25:57,240 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 2: There was another picture of olympian for or another country.

507
00:26:00,840 --> 00:26:03,480
Speaker 1: It was a black person and they like were jumping

508
00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:07,240
Speaker 1: really high to play volleyball or some shit and the part,

509
00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:10,760
Speaker 1: and so someone photoshopped the picture made it look like

510
00:26:10,840 --> 00:26:13,680
Speaker 1: she jumped even higher than she jumped and then wrote

511
00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 1: something about it. I think it's just funny how these

512
00:26:16,560 --> 00:26:19,399
Speaker 1: white countries had they black Olympians in here, and it's

513
00:26:19,440 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: the black people that represent them. But then you go

514
00:26:21,320 --> 00:26:23,440
Speaker 1: back to the Da da da, and I'm like, that's

515
00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:26,520
Speaker 1: a point that is valid without you adding the extra

516
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:28,680
Speaker 1: Like it's like I couldn't just make this point. I

517
00:26:28,760 --> 00:26:31,199
Speaker 1: had to turn this person into Superman so I can

518
00:26:31,280 --> 00:26:34,360
Speaker 1: make the same point that would have been valid either way.

519
00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,920
Speaker 1: It's the Internet is just kind of wild like that.

520
00:26:39,119 --> 00:26:41,240
Speaker 1: I do think that my only hangout with her winning,

521
00:26:41,280 --> 00:26:43,000
Speaker 1: to be honest, was the fact that the winner was

522
00:26:43,040 --> 00:26:45,560
Speaker 1: going to represent blurr Con at Austin con as the

523
00:26:45,640 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: official spokesperson for.

524
00:26:47,160 --> 00:26:49,480
Speaker 2: Blur Con as well as judge and other official role.

525
00:26:49,880 --> 00:26:51,639
Speaker 2: Maybe that's my hang up. But the objects of a

526
00:26:51,680 --> 00:26:52,440
Speaker 2: white person.

527
00:26:52,680 --> 00:26:55,400
Speaker 1: Representing the con named Blur Cohn at another larger white

528
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:58,840
Speaker 1: conference just feels weird. It definitely feels weird, But that's

529
00:26:58,920 --> 00:27:01,120
Speaker 1: more of a race thing. I don't think that that's

530
00:27:01,160 --> 00:27:03,840
Speaker 1: a blur cond thing. I think that's just America thing.

531
00:27:04,320 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 3: Yes, And the thing is, it ain't her fault she's white.

532
00:27:08,680 --> 00:27:10,159
Speaker 3: Like like, I'm not trying to be fun. It's like,

533
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:12,960
Speaker 3: it's not my fault that I'm white. I went in

534
00:27:13,160 --> 00:27:16,639
Speaker 3: for fun not realizing I was gonna win, and then

535
00:27:16,720 --> 00:27:20,240
Speaker 3: I win, and then it's a backlash. And it's the

536
00:27:20,280 --> 00:27:24,119
Speaker 3: same thing white folks do. So what makes us different

537
00:27:24,200 --> 00:27:27,080
Speaker 3: because a lot of people won't separate but equal, But

538
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:29,440
Speaker 3: yet they want to call that equality and it's never

539
00:27:29,600 --> 00:27:31,360
Speaker 3: equality when you look at it like that. But that's

540
00:27:31,359 --> 00:27:33,400
Speaker 3: what people want. Let's have our black shit, know, white

541
00:27:33,400 --> 00:27:35,560
Speaker 3: people allow. That's literally what a lot of people are

542
00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,359
Speaker 3: saying when most black niggas go, I don't actually care.

543
00:27:39,240 --> 00:27:46,440
Speaker 1: Right, So yeah, yeah, I think it's one of those

544
00:27:46,480 --> 00:27:51,600
Speaker 1: things that it would have felt weird, But I guess

545
00:27:51,640 --> 00:27:53,639
Speaker 1: it's just the way I feel. And maybe it's just

546
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:57,119
Speaker 1: at the time now, or maybe I'll change, But I

547
00:27:57,240 --> 00:28:01,240
Speaker 1: think equality or not even equality. The opposite of white

548
00:28:01,320 --> 00:28:07,280
Speaker 1: supremacy is not excluding white people. It's not just setting

549
00:28:07,359 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: up a kind of like black's only situation. And I

550
00:28:13,400 --> 00:28:16,199
Speaker 1: think if that's what blurr con would have established as

551
00:28:16,200 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: their principles are the years that they've been running the con,

552
00:28:19,000 --> 00:28:21,280
Speaker 1: I would be right there with people in this idea,

553
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:24,600
Speaker 1: like dah that you shouldn't allow that. But they literally

554
00:28:24,760 --> 00:28:27,760
Speaker 1: it's called blurred con. But even this is not the

555
00:28:27,840 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: first year I've heard about blur Con or heard from

556
00:28:31,240 --> 00:28:34,119
Speaker 1: the dude behind blur con, and every time he's always

557
00:28:34,200 --> 00:28:38,120
Speaker 1: been he sounds like a pretty inclusive type of dude.

558
00:28:38,200 --> 00:28:41,480
Speaker 1: He wanted a space that was inclusive. It's just call

559
00:28:41,640 --> 00:28:44,640
Speaker 1: it's called blurred con. But the idea of blurred is

560
00:28:44,760 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: not one I think that was built on exclusion. The

561
00:28:48,920 --> 00:28:52,560
Speaker 1: term blurred is literally built on inclusion. It's literally a

562
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,480
Speaker 1: term saying black nerd, not black nerds only, like it's

563
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,920
Speaker 1: saying I'm a nerd, I'm black and and I want

564
00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:03,920
Speaker 1: to be included. That we created this space because we

565
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: felt excluded by whiteness, and so I'm here to stake

566
00:29:08,000 --> 00:29:10,840
Speaker 1: my claim in nerd them as a black person and

567
00:29:10,960 --> 00:29:13,640
Speaker 1: say I'm black and a nerd. This is my space.

568
00:29:14,120 --> 00:29:15,760
Speaker 1: And that's one of the reason I used to have

569
00:29:15,880 --> 00:29:18,760
Speaker 1: trouble with the phrases, because there was a certain type

570
00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:23,800
Speaker 1: of and there's a certain type of assimilation that I

571
00:29:23,920 --> 00:29:26,320
Speaker 1: equated with it. I'm not saying that's fair or right,

572
00:29:26,440 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 1: and I've let that go since right, it'll you know, instinctly,

573
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:32,400
Speaker 1: I think I always bristle a little bit at the term,

574
00:29:32,480 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: but I've met some really cool people that define themselves

575
00:29:34,640 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: as blurreds that I do not feel like any level

576
00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:40,920
Speaker 1: of like coon, sell out, whatever. And it took meeting

577
00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: those people to be like, I can let that go.

578
00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:48,120
Speaker 1: But within it, the term is inherently one of inclusion,

579
00:29:48,200 --> 00:29:52,200
Speaker 1: and I think the opposite of going to cosplay events

580
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:54,960
Speaker 1: where they look at you sideways for being black or

581
00:29:55,040 --> 00:30:00,280
Speaker 1: brown is blurred CON's idea, Right, it's come here what

582
00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 1: you look like. It will matter if you you know,

583
00:30:02,760 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 1: if you want to compete in this contest, if you

584
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:07,960
Speaker 1: just want to show off, if you want to assign something,

585
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 1: you want to be on a panel. This The whole

586
00:30:10,440 --> 00:30:14,040
Speaker 1: idea is that we're doing everything, We're not just sectioning

587
00:30:14,080 --> 00:30:17,200
Speaker 1: it off for a blacks only type of event, right,

588
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:21,160
Speaker 1: And I think that's a valid idea, and I, you know,

589
00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,440
Speaker 1: like it might not be my exact type of like

590
00:30:25,600 --> 00:30:28,360
Speaker 1: how I would do something, but at the same time,

591
00:30:28,480 --> 00:30:29,640
Speaker 1: it's nothing wrong with.

592
00:30:29,760 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 2: The way of doing that. And I think that's the

593
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:34,400
Speaker 2: part that people can't see.

594
00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:37,280
Speaker 1: A lot of people seem like they can't balance out

595
00:30:37,320 --> 00:30:40,720
Speaker 1: this idea that it's nothing wrong with how they're doing

596
00:30:40,800 --> 00:30:43,960
Speaker 1: the thing. It just, you know, it leaves room for

597
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:44,640
Speaker 1: stuff like this.

598
00:30:44,840 --> 00:30:46,200
Speaker 2: But this doesn't have to be bad.

599
00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:47,880
Speaker 1: It's only bad if you feel like it's bad.

600
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 3: Right.

601
00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:51,960
Speaker 1: Also, I think my only grape about the founder statement

602
00:30:52,040 --> 00:30:54,520
Speaker 1: is that he said anybody can be a blur, which yeah,

603
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,400
Speaker 1: nah lol. Maybe he meant to say something else like

604
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,520
Speaker 1: we're open to every type of nerve blurred or not.

605
00:31:00,720 --> 00:31:02,600
Speaker 1: But I will put a hard stop on anybody if

606
00:31:02,600 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: any race can be a blurred. Yeah, I would assume

607
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:07,600
Speaker 1: that's misspeaking. But I don't know that dude.

608
00:31:07,640 --> 00:31:10,840
Speaker 2: So if he yeah, I don't know that dude like that,

609
00:31:11,240 --> 00:31:14,280
Speaker 2: so I would my general.

610
00:31:15,440 --> 00:31:20,120
Speaker 1: Non informed opinion would be he probably misspoke or didn't

611
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:22,080
Speaker 1: mean it in that type of way, like anyone can

612
00:31:22,120 --> 00:31:23,680
Speaker 1: be black. I don't think he meant it that way.

613
00:31:25,000 --> 00:31:27,880
Speaker 1: Maybe you know more like anyone can be included in

614
00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:31,200
Speaker 1: blurri Con. Probably what he meant right overall, I'm curious

615
00:31:31,240 --> 00:31:33,120
Speaker 1: what blur Con would look like. And by the way,

616
00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,960
Speaker 1: I couldn't see the statement because I think he deleted

617
00:31:34,960 --> 00:31:37,240
Speaker 1: it by the time we read it on the show

618
00:31:37,320 --> 00:31:39,360
Speaker 1: or some shit like he took it down or edited

619
00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: it or something. Anyway, I'm curious what it looked like

620
00:31:42,920 --> 00:31:44,680
Speaker 1: next year. Maybe this was the type folks to compete

621
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:47,280
Speaker 1: in the cosplay competition. I hope it doesn't detract other

622
00:31:47,360 --> 00:31:49,480
Speaker 1: black folks from going to the conover this controversy.

623
00:31:50,000 --> 00:31:51,680
Speaker 2: Great point about.

624
00:31:52,920 --> 00:31:56,560
Speaker 1: If it will one increase competition, which I hope it does,

625
00:31:57,160 --> 00:32:00,880
Speaker 1: but to how it would look next year, because like

626
00:32:01,320 --> 00:32:02,640
Speaker 1: I said, I was listening to tea with Queen and

627
00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:06,800
Speaker 1: Jay on that Patreon and Jay Deenisa is she's big

628
00:32:06,920 --> 00:32:10,560
Speaker 1: in the cosplay all that whole con environment stuff, and

629
00:32:10,680 --> 00:32:12,440
Speaker 1: she brought up such a great point, which is like,

630
00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:17,120
Speaker 1: so you get rid of blurri Con, then what because

631
00:32:17,120 --> 00:32:19,560
Speaker 1: you still planning to go to E three New York

632
00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:23,200
Speaker 1: Comic Con all this other shit and you still playing

633
00:32:23,240 --> 00:32:25,680
Speaker 1: to dress up as cosplay, But those are the places

634
00:32:25,720 --> 00:32:28,800
Speaker 1: that you are like, are antagonistic? Two black people, Like

635
00:32:29,360 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: it's not that they're not you know, black supremacists enough

636
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 1: like blurre Con in your opinion, these are places that

637
00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:38,960
Speaker 1: are literally like we do not recognize black people's efforts

638
00:32:39,000 --> 00:32:41,880
Speaker 1: in this area. So then what's left after you get

639
00:32:41,960 --> 00:32:42,840
Speaker 1: rid of blurri Con.

640
00:32:42,960 --> 00:32:45,320
Speaker 3: Right, because that's the thing people say they won't these things,

641
00:32:45,720 --> 00:32:48,880
Speaker 3: then they get them, and then we even don't allow

642
00:32:48,960 --> 00:32:51,200
Speaker 3: for errors to be made, mistakes to be made, We

643
00:32:51,280 --> 00:32:53,280
Speaker 3: don't allow for growth, we don't allow for any of that.

644
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:56,880
Speaker 3: Just shut this shit down, okay, close down? Then we

645
00:32:57,040 --> 00:32:59,640
Speaker 3: you have You have nothing because most people don't have

646
00:32:59,680 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 3: the money, money or the funding or anything like that.

647
00:33:01,920 --> 00:33:04,120
Speaker 3: Like it takes years to get to the point to

648
00:33:04,160 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 3: where blurd Con is and most people, from my understanding,

649
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,200
Speaker 3: went and had a great time, had a good time.

650
00:33:09,280 --> 00:33:11,360
Speaker 3: There wasn't a problem, you know. And it was one

651
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,840
Speaker 3: of those things when they did the contest, from my understanding,

652
00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,000
Speaker 3: they put it out there and a lot of people

653
00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,680
Speaker 3: had already left. Well this is the time they judged

654
00:33:19,720 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: you was either there or you wasn't.

655
00:33:21,200 --> 00:33:25,120
Speaker 1: I also think maybe moved the contest, right, you know

656
00:33:25,160 --> 00:33:28,440
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Like if I'm blur Con next year.

657
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040
Speaker 1: I would move this shit to prime time. Make sure

658
00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,680
Speaker 1: you get it on like Thursday, Friday, Saturday night, something

659
00:33:33,720 --> 00:33:37,280
Speaker 1: when you know that most people will be there. But

660
00:33:37,400 --> 00:33:39,600
Speaker 1: that seemed like a no brainer. I mean, this could

661
00:33:39,640 --> 00:33:42,560
Speaker 1: be great promotion for them. Ms barn says, I voted

662
00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000
Speaker 1: yes because the celebration should have been on the spirit

663
00:33:45,080 --> 00:33:47,160
Speaker 1: a cosplayer, not whether the winner was white or not.

664
00:33:50,600 --> 00:33:51,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, I see what you said.

665
00:33:52,000 --> 00:33:54,600
Speaker 1: Cosplayers are up there with drag queens when there's a

666
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:57,080
Speaker 1: grip spent on makeup and costumes, an hour spent on

667
00:33:57,160 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: getting ready.

668
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 2: I love going to cons and looking at the class.

669
00:34:00,320 --> 00:34:00,960
Speaker 2: It's so dope.

670
00:34:01,040 --> 00:34:03,920
Speaker 1: I would imagine that the winner was someone who got

671
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:06,160
Speaker 1: into the spirit of cosplay versus someone who entered the

672
00:34:06,440 --> 00:34:09,880
Speaker 1: contest hoping she would win because she was white. It's unfortunate.

673
00:34:10,920 --> 00:34:13,360
Speaker 1: Cas says, I voted man. I don't think the award

674
00:34:13,440 --> 00:34:15,279
Speaker 1: to that girl is an issue by itself, but I

675
00:34:15,400 --> 00:34:18,760
Speaker 1: did raise my eyebrows at a couple of things in cosplay.

676
00:34:18,840 --> 00:34:21,600
Speaker 1: Gay one. Apparently, the majority of the winners in the

677
00:34:21,640 --> 00:34:24,680
Speaker 1: four year history have been non black, and I'm sure

678
00:34:24,760 --> 00:34:28,319
Speaker 1: the backlash surprised them because it has happened before. If

679
00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:30,560
Speaker 1: that's the case, it seems more of a macro issue,

680
00:34:30,640 --> 00:34:32,279
Speaker 1: which leads me to number two.

681
00:34:33,520 --> 00:34:37,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, which is weird. It's weird that it's never.

682
00:34:37,200 --> 00:34:40,400
Speaker 1: Been an issue before and that it will only become

683
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:44,360
Speaker 1: an issue this year. And even with us, you know,

684
00:34:44,440 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 1: the limited research we did for the show, or that

685
00:34:46,719 --> 00:34:50,080
Speaker 1: I did for the show, no one mentioned that, like

686
00:34:50,200 --> 00:34:53,560
Speaker 1: in none of the articles or nothing, which you know,

687
00:34:53,800 --> 00:34:56,799
Speaker 1: laxy wonder number two that or was it because those

688
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:00,160
Speaker 1: other people weren't white, They just were non black, right, Like,

689
00:35:00,320 --> 00:35:03,240
Speaker 1: we don't mind if it's like a Latino version or something. Anyway,

690
00:35:03,280 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 1: that's weird too that Judge's Facebook response was objectively trash.

691
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,200
Speaker 1: Her Pringles can tell Cosplake scenario was insulting. No one

692
00:35:12,360 --> 00:35:15,520
Speaker 1: was asking for that extreme when the picture clearly showed

693
00:35:15,600 --> 00:35:18,920
Speaker 1: competitors were well made costumes. But also, our culture has

694
00:35:18,960 --> 00:35:21,640
Speaker 1: been largely built for making something out of nothing. Maybe

695
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,800
Speaker 1: show some acknowledgement reverence to that as the black function

696
00:35:25,000 --> 00:35:29,759
Speaker 1: the founder did slightly better has deleted thirty minute Facebook response. Yeah,

697
00:35:29,840 --> 00:35:31,960
Speaker 1: that's what it was deleted. It was the Facebook response.

698
00:35:32,200 --> 00:35:34,240
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it's something that me and you had dressed before.

699
00:35:35,360 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 3: I think it, you know, my opinion, make it prime time,

700
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:42,560
Speaker 3: and also make multiple categories versus a one winner. All

701
00:35:43,160 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 3: do like you said, like they were saying, do like

702
00:35:45,239 --> 00:35:48,440
Speaker 3: a fan favorite and let them, you know, the fans,

703
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:49,160
Speaker 3: you know pick.

704
00:35:49,320 --> 00:35:51,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's I think making fans part of it is

705
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,839
Speaker 1: a big would be huge fan vote or something. Maybe

706
00:35:55,880 --> 00:35:58,200
Speaker 1: they could just do it through a chair up and down,

707
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:00,680
Speaker 1: like raise your head type thing, just kind of a

708
00:36:00,719 --> 00:36:04,680
Speaker 1: general consensus, and it always makes fans feel feel like

709
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:07,040
Speaker 1: a part of it, you know, like you know, raise

710
00:36:07,080 --> 00:36:09,759
Speaker 1: your hands, so and so one. Yeah, okay, what if

711
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:12,319
Speaker 1: so and so, Oh it's too close to call? Too close?

712
00:36:12,360 --> 00:36:14,800
Speaker 1: We gotta do it again. Come oh, I don't know,

713
00:36:14,920 --> 00:36:16,160
Speaker 1: you know. So that could be fun.

714
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 2: But then the other part of it is, uh, I

715
00:36:21,680 --> 00:36:22,439
Speaker 2: don't think.

716
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:26,800
Speaker 1: I think unless you're gonna put in writing like Black's

717
00:36:26,880 --> 00:36:31,000
Speaker 1: only cosplay, you're going to run into this possibility.

718
00:36:31,120 --> 00:36:31,480
Speaker 3: Agreed.

719
00:36:31,800 --> 00:36:34,360
Speaker 1: It's like saying there's a lottery for the who getting

720
00:36:34,360 --> 00:36:37,320
Speaker 1: the vaccine and then being mad that like, you know,

721
00:36:37,520 --> 00:36:40,000
Speaker 1: oh no, a rich white person won. Well it's a lottery,

722
00:36:41,120 --> 00:36:42,239
Speaker 1: Like that's the point. It's not.

723
00:36:43,480 --> 00:36:45,719
Speaker 2: Sometimes a person wins that don't need the money, you

724
00:36:45,800 --> 00:36:46,319
Speaker 2: know what I mean?

725
00:36:47,880 --> 00:36:50,719
Speaker 1: But yeah, I feel number three, the one thing that

726
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:53,640
Speaker 1: a founder said that maybe at the quarter Isue said

727
00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:56,000
Speaker 1: that he's not an expert in cosplay. So in putting

728
00:36:56,040 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: the competition together, you can so the experson gather judges

729
00:36:58,440 --> 00:37:00,839
Speaker 1: who have been judging them for fifteen plus. But if

730
00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:03,200
Speaker 1: black people will mostly overlook by these experts at the

731
00:37:03,280 --> 00:37:05,800
Speaker 1: other competition for all those years, it would follow that

732
00:37:05,880 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: they're using their methodology would yield the same results at

733
00:37:09,760 --> 00:37:12,440
Speaker 1: any open competition, including blood con That leads to my

734
00:37:12,560 --> 00:37:19,000
Speaker 1: last man, except you could imagine if you're getting people

735
00:37:19,080 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: from other contests, you may you're probably gonna pick the

736
00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,279
Speaker 1: voices that you feel like connect the most. Right, So

737
00:37:26,480 --> 00:37:30,520
Speaker 1: like if I picking like they were being a judge

738
00:37:30,560 --> 00:37:32,880
Speaker 1: for fifteen years, and I'm picking this black person and

739
00:37:33,480 --> 00:37:35,839
Speaker 1: they're gay, and they're this and that that, and you're

740
00:37:35,880 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: thinking to yourself like, oh, they'll be more open minded.

741
00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,759
Speaker 1: Now maybe that's not true, right, but that's what you're thinking.

742
00:37:41,840 --> 00:37:44,839
Speaker 1: There's also that weird thing that is always gonna been

743
00:37:44,920 --> 00:37:50,400
Speaker 1: towards white supremacy, which is this thing called legitimacy. Like

744
00:37:50,600 --> 00:37:54,719
Speaker 1: who gets to define what's legitimate? Yeah, typically some white

745
00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:57,880
Speaker 1: people somewhere, you know in almost every industry.

746
00:37:57,920 --> 00:38:00,239
Speaker 2: You know, look at podcasting whenever.

747
00:38:00,000 --> 00:38:02,439
Speaker 1: It's time to do ads and all this shit, White people,

748
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:07,080
Speaker 1: what are your CBMs? And most black people that are

749
00:38:07,200 --> 00:38:11,280
Speaker 1: doing amateur podcasts or even professional podcasts before you start out.

750
00:38:11,400 --> 00:38:13,640
Speaker 2: If you're not in the industry, you're not backed by anybody.

751
00:38:13,719 --> 00:38:15,840
Speaker 1: You're like, what the fuck is the CBM? Y, I

752
00:38:15,920 --> 00:38:19,160
Speaker 1: gotta go look up what a CBM is now, because

753
00:38:19,360 --> 00:38:22,000
Speaker 1: I was just going off of X and now you

754
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,160
Speaker 1: gotta go by it. I mean, what's your rate on

755
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:26,760
Speaker 1: the CBMs? I gotta go figure that shit out. Because

756
00:38:26,800 --> 00:38:28,000
Speaker 1: some white person somewhere was.

757
00:38:28,040 --> 00:38:29,640
Speaker 2: Like, that's what you need to have.

758
00:38:30,080 --> 00:38:32,800
Speaker 1: And I think that's one of the things that happens

759
00:38:32,840 --> 00:38:35,920
Speaker 1: where just by the fact that we're like, these are

760
00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:40,839
Speaker 1: legitimate judges that have worked in these cop what made

761
00:38:40,880 --> 00:38:45,520
Speaker 1: them legitimate? They judged other white people cons and picked

762
00:38:46,040 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 1: this winner who is a white person, So that makes

763
00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: them legitimate.

764
00:38:49,719 --> 00:38:51,480
Speaker 2: So I definitely see your point there.

765
00:38:52,080 --> 00:38:54,880
Speaker 1: Of it could be that I would just guess that

766
00:38:55,680 --> 00:38:58,600
Speaker 1: whatever judges they wouldn't consulted, hopefully they talk to them

767
00:38:58,600 --> 00:39:00,719
Speaker 1: a little bit and then just go go get the

768
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,799
Speaker 1: white judges from the other place. But with like yo,

769
00:39:02,920 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: what do you look for? You know, this is a

770
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:07,680
Speaker 1: con about that, or like you said, maybe they didn't.

771
00:39:07,719 --> 00:39:10,799
Speaker 1: Who knows, And if they didn't, then hopefully this will

772
00:39:10,840 --> 00:39:13,799
Speaker 1: be that wake up call to do that for they.

773
00:39:13,920 --> 00:39:17,439
Speaker 1: Because also, I mean, I'm not gonna pick a judge

774
00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,640
Speaker 1: to be like, so what are you looking for? I'm

775
00:39:19,719 --> 00:39:21,400
Speaker 1: only picking black people? Okay?

776
00:39:21,560 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 2: Well shit, now I don't like, like, I can't make

777
00:39:25,160 --> 00:39:28,280
Speaker 2: that shit okay either, because that's not what the spirit

778
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:28,960
Speaker 2: of our show is.

779
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:31,840
Speaker 1: If it was the blacks only gone, sure, but you

780
00:39:31,920 --> 00:39:35,080
Speaker 1: know whatever for they really didn't respond it with any

781
00:39:35,120 --> 00:39:37,880
Speaker 1: solutions outside the extreme changing the entry rules, which they

782
00:39:37,960 --> 00:39:40,719
Speaker 1: can't do, and more black people need to enter if

783
00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:43,520
Speaker 1: it's necessary to judge on sewing and the problem really

784
00:39:43,640 --> 00:39:45,720
Speaker 1: is lack of skill, why not reach out to Michaels

785
00:39:45,800 --> 00:39:49,120
Speaker 1: or Joe ass Re sponsoring Zoom sewing and craftsmanship classes

786
00:39:49,160 --> 00:39:52,719
Speaker 1: for participants in the off season? Are there because I

787
00:39:52,760 --> 00:39:56,000
Speaker 1: would imagine because they don't care that much, right yeah,

788
00:39:56,040 --> 00:39:58,239
Speaker 1: And that's that's that part is not their job.

789
00:39:58,320 --> 00:40:00,600
Speaker 3: And I don't mean to be me you know, cruel

790
00:40:00,680 --> 00:40:03,400
Speaker 3: or anything like that, but for a lot of COSS players,

791
00:40:03,440 --> 00:40:06,880
Speaker 3: they take pride in making it themselves and like, like

792
00:40:06,960 --> 00:40:09,880
Speaker 3: I said, making something out of nothing and all that

793
00:40:10,120 --> 00:40:12,399
Speaker 3: type of thing. And also when it comes to costs play,

794
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,120
Speaker 3: it's expensive, like if you really get deep into it,

795
00:40:16,280 --> 00:40:19,200
Speaker 3: like it costs a lot of money, which for a

796
00:40:19,239 --> 00:40:21,360
Speaker 3: lot of black and brown people don't know the penal situation,

797
00:40:21,480 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 3: it is a disadvantage all. Just like I'm not knocking

798
00:40:23,880 --> 00:40:29,120
Speaker 3: that at all. But at the same time, it's funny

799
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:31,520
Speaker 3: how we expect, you know, blurr con to cough up

800
00:40:31,560 --> 00:40:33,440
Speaker 3: the costs, but we don't expect these white cons to

801
00:40:33,520 --> 00:40:36,319
Speaker 3: cough up to cough up the costs for anybody else.

802
00:40:36,440 --> 00:40:38,719
Speaker 3: So no, I don't, I don't. I would not put that.

803
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:41,719
Speaker 3: I would not put that burden in that responsibility upon them.

804
00:40:42,000 --> 00:40:43,440
Speaker 3: What you need to do is have it when you

805
00:40:43,520 --> 00:40:45,759
Speaker 3: know the most amount of people will be there.

806
00:40:46,400 --> 00:40:49,799
Speaker 1: Yeah. I think the solutions that that I saw them

807
00:40:49,880 --> 00:40:53,000
Speaker 1: talking about were decent solutions.

808
00:40:53,200 --> 00:40:55,840
Speaker 2: Adding a fan participation part was huge.

809
00:40:55,920 --> 00:40:58,040
Speaker 1: I think that would change. That would be enough to

810
00:40:58,160 --> 00:41:03,360
Speaker 1: change it by itself. And then also if it doesn't change,

811
00:41:03,520 --> 00:41:06,160
Speaker 1: it then implicates the audience is like, well, look, these

812
00:41:06,239 --> 00:41:08,800
Speaker 1: motherfuckers was cool with it while they was here, So

813
00:41:09,080 --> 00:41:11,719
Speaker 1: you on the outside judging from your computer. You don't

814
00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,120
Speaker 1: know what the fuck you talking about. The people that

815
00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:16,719
Speaker 1: spent money to come to the con thought this was cool,

816
00:41:17,080 --> 00:41:19,759
Speaker 1: So now they can't say that right right now, they're like,

817
00:41:19,840 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 1: we did it when those very limited people. Audience isn't

818
00:41:22,680 --> 00:41:25,120
Speaker 1: part of it. No one seemed to be offended. But

819
00:41:25,160 --> 00:41:27,799
Speaker 1: then later the internet was offended. You know I could,

820
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:29,920
Speaker 1: so yeah, they should add that audience part. I think.

821
00:41:30,560 --> 00:41:32,840
Speaker 1: I think also people are looking at this as like

822
00:41:32,920 --> 00:41:36,560
Speaker 1: trying to solve this impossible thing that should have never happened.

823
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:39,680
Speaker 2: And I'm like, why do you believe that blur con

824
00:41:39,800 --> 00:41:40,120
Speaker 2: thinks this.

825
00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:43,640
Speaker 1: Should have never happened? Right, there's nothing about that. The

826
00:41:43,719 --> 00:41:45,759
Speaker 1: people that run that con that sound like they're like,

827
00:41:46,360 --> 00:41:49,040
Speaker 1: this was a disaster. We never meant for this to happen.

828
00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,560
Speaker 1: It sounds like they're like, yeah, we're cool with that

829
00:41:51,719 --> 00:41:55,040
Speaker 1: if we feel this person had the best costume. Are

830
00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,480
Speaker 1: there places that can donate raw materials? Just presenting brainstorm

831
00:41:58,560 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: ideas to show people that you hear them probably would

832
00:42:01,440 --> 00:42:03,239
Speaker 1: have went over better than pure defensiveness.

833
00:42:03,320 --> 00:42:04,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't see the video, so maybe it was

834
00:42:04,880 --> 00:42:05,440
Speaker 2: a tong thing.

835
00:42:05,560 --> 00:42:08,399
Speaker 3: But and I and I do think, and we both

836
00:42:08,440 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 3: agreed that the dude was wrong. And what you're doing,

837
00:42:10,680 --> 00:42:13,560
Speaker 3: you're insulting to the U of the dude that made

838
00:42:13,600 --> 00:42:16,080
Speaker 3: the comment about the cosplay about the black people.

839
00:42:16,200 --> 00:42:18,759
Speaker 1: Cause, oh the judge, the judge, she's not talking about

840
00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:24,239
Speaker 1: the judge. She's now talking about the the person that

841
00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,320
Speaker 1: runs the that's that's the founder, the founders.

842
00:42:27,320 --> 00:42:28,799
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

843
00:42:28,840 --> 00:42:31,720
Speaker 1: The fact everyone knows that judges are yes, And that's where.

844
00:42:31,600 --> 00:42:33,359
Speaker 3: A lot of the pushback and that's where we got

845
00:42:33,400 --> 00:42:35,239
Speaker 3: into the costumes and Ship because of what that that

846
00:42:35,400 --> 00:42:36,040
Speaker 3: person says.

847
00:42:36,080 --> 00:42:38,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, I don't think that person was operating in good

848
00:42:38,680 --> 00:42:41,479
Speaker 1: faith or being honest. I don't think there were people

849
00:42:41,560 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 1: competing with Pringo Cane Tales and Ship all right, that

850
00:42:44,719 --> 00:42:47,279
Speaker 1: they were trying to be they That person should not

851
00:42:47,360 --> 00:42:48,080
Speaker 1: be invited back.

852
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:49,279
Speaker 2: I would never invite them back.

853
00:42:49,400 --> 00:42:51,479
Speaker 3: Nope. And and if they were a judge, you would

854
00:42:51,520 --> 00:42:52,520
Speaker 3: never be a judge again.

855
00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, you made Ship way fucking worse and harder than

856
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:55,320
Speaker 2: it had to be.

857
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:57,320
Speaker 3: Right, you have to be accountable and you have to

858
00:42:57,360 --> 00:42:59,879
Speaker 3: be responsible. And it is things where they might sit

859
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:03,279
Speaker 3: back and reevaluate and reconsider, and like you said, that

860
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:05,320
Speaker 3: might be something that they ought to do, but it

861
00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: should not be like an obligation for them to do

862
00:43:08,400 --> 00:43:11,000
Speaker 3: that type of thing. And when you get the fans

863
00:43:11,200 --> 00:43:13,279
Speaker 3: in it, fans will you know, depending on the fans

864
00:43:13,400 --> 00:43:15,960
Speaker 3: will overlook shit that the judges might be more have

865
00:43:16,040 --> 00:43:18,359
Speaker 3: a more critical eye because I'm a judge. So it's

866
00:43:18,400 --> 00:43:20,520
Speaker 3: one of those things where you actually make the playing

867
00:43:20,600 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 3: field more even and actually give people a chance. All

868
00:43:23,040 --> 00:43:25,400
Speaker 3: that is cool. I think they should win, even though

869
00:43:25,480 --> 00:43:27,720
Speaker 3: technically the judge would people honestly.

870
00:43:27,719 --> 00:43:29,239
Speaker 2: And yeah, it's not like you have to It's like

871
00:43:29,280 --> 00:43:29,960
Speaker 2: the Dunk contest.

872
00:43:30,000 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: You don't have to make the fan vote the whole thing,

873
00:43:32,719 --> 00:43:35,120
Speaker 1: or the NBA All Star contest, like it's not the

874
00:43:35,239 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: whole thing, but it should be a significant portion. It

875
00:43:38,160 --> 00:43:41,719
Speaker 1: makes everybody feel involved. Yes, yes, there was always a

876
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,480
Speaker 1: spectrum of responses between if you didn't put in during

877
00:43:45,520 --> 00:43:49,160
Speaker 1: the pandemic, dunker plane and blacks only complain blacks and

878
00:43:49,280 --> 00:43:53,719
Speaker 1: blacks only competition. Yeah, I think yeah, like I said, man,

879
00:43:53,800 --> 00:43:56,080
Speaker 1: I hopefully it's one of those things. People probably already

880
00:43:56,080 --> 00:43:58,640
Speaker 1: listening to this tide of the shit, so hopefully it'll

881
00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:02,040
Speaker 1: pass over. But you know, they should involve the fans

882
00:44:02,120 --> 00:44:06,080
Speaker 1: next time. And yeah, and I hope, hope they put

883
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 1: it during a time where more people are there and

884
00:44:08,239 --> 00:44:09,880
Speaker 1: they've probably solved the whole fucking problem.

885
00:44:10,000 --> 00:44:12,520
Speaker 3: Yep, and neither. Like you said, let the fan participation

886
00:44:12,680 --> 00:44:15,600
Speaker 3: actually determines who win or either have a fan choice,

887
00:44:15,640 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 3: which is absolutely separate from a judge choice. Let have

888
00:44:19,160 --> 00:44:21,960
Speaker 3: actually two winners, you know, because let's say you instead

889
00:44:22,000 --> 00:44:25,040
Speaker 3: of you know what, her winning byhisel if you had

890
00:44:25,080 --> 00:44:27,960
Speaker 3: two winners, you probably would have eliminated half the complaints.

891
00:44:28,200 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's see, we had episode twenty three eighty three,

892
00:44:32,800 --> 00:44:37,560
Speaker 1: The apology. Brooklyn Shoe says, Oh my fucking god, this

893
00:44:37,680 --> 00:44:42,480
Speaker 1: episode was classic. The Alfonso Rivieriro drops alone. Lol, that's

894
00:44:42,480 --> 00:44:46,160
Speaker 1: all I have to say. Thanks Rider, Karen for the jokes. Well,

895
00:44:46,239 --> 00:44:47,160
Speaker 1: thank you for listening.

896
00:44:48,520 --> 00:44:50,839
Speaker 2: You know, well, man Alfonso is out.

897
00:44:50,760 --> 00:44:55,880
Speaker 1: There getting it for the white women's Yeah, he says,

898
00:44:56,040 --> 00:44:58,800
Speaker 1: I don't think the baby is sorry about what he said.

899
00:44:59,239 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 1: He's only sorry he lost out on the money maker opportunities.

900
00:45:02,080 --> 00:45:04,360
Speaker 1: Give it a month and he'll be back in the

901
00:45:04,440 --> 00:45:09,359
Speaker 1: news for saying something dumb again. Yeah, I think, I mean,

902
00:45:09,360 --> 00:45:10,960
Speaker 1: I tend to agree with you. I don't know him

903
00:45:11,080 --> 00:45:13,120
Speaker 1: like that obviously as a human being, but I tend

904
00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:17,120
Speaker 1: to agree with you because his statement for the apology

905
00:45:17,160 --> 00:45:21,239
Speaker 1: saying extremely not in his voice, as if someone else

906
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:23,320
Speaker 1: just wrote that form, and then all this stuff that

907
00:45:23,400 --> 00:45:26,520
Speaker 1: he said before was just so unrepentant, and even his

908
00:45:26,800 --> 00:45:30,560
Speaker 1: quote unquote apology was very much like y'all tripping and

909
00:45:30,640 --> 00:45:32,600
Speaker 1: making this a much bigger thing than it needs to be.

910
00:45:32,920 --> 00:45:35,880
Speaker 1: So I don't think I don't think he learned anything,

911
00:45:36,000 --> 00:45:39,600
Speaker 1: and I think tell yeah, and at the end of

912
00:45:39,640 --> 00:45:41,720
Speaker 1: the day, he's I don't think he needs to learn anything.

913
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 1: He'll be fine. We don't exist in the world where

914
00:45:44,640 --> 00:45:48,279
Speaker 1: it's like we're gonna actually cancel this dude because he's homophobic.

915
00:45:48,520 --> 00:45:51,279
Speaker 1: Like the next day, people was probably more mad at

916
00:45:51,360 --> 00:45:55,560
Speaker 1: Matt Damon for his edecdote about the F word. You know,

917
00:45:55,800 --> 00:45:59,440
Speaker 1: like this shit is so common and pervasive, especially in

918
00:45:59,520 --> 00:46:02,560
Speaker 1: hip hop. I would even venture out to say, I

919
00:46:02,640 --> 00:46:05,719
Speaker 1: don't think people expect motherfuckers and hip hop to be

920
00:46:05,960 --> 00:46:09,239
Speaker 1: inclusive as much as they think they expect people in

921
00:46:09,360 --> 00:46:11,600
Speaker 1: hip hop to be like quiet about it.

922
00:46:12,120 --> 00:46:13,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're like, we just don't want to hear it,

923
00:46:13,600 --> 00:46:13,799
Speaker 3: Like you.

924
00:46:13,840 --> 00:46:16,800
Speaker 1: Can hate gay people, but just don't just don't say it,

925
00:46:17,680 --> 00:46:21,480
Speaker 1: because that's the that you know, that's the agreement, the

926
00:46:21,880 --> 00:46:25,399
Speaker 1: unspoken gentlemen's agreement, quote unquote, and hip hop is, well,

927
00:46:25,440 --> 00:46:27,839
Speaker 1: we expect everyone to be homophobic, but just can't keep

928
00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 1: it to yourself.

929
00:46:29,480 --> 00:46:32,040
Speaker 2: Who is coon it harder for than white girls? Alfonso

930
00:46:32,560 --> 00:46:33,240
Speaker 2: or Joshua.

931
00:46:34,160 --> 00:46:36,240
Speaker 1: Now you were going, well, who's Joshua?

932
00:46:37,960 --> 00:46:38,760
Speaker 6: You know it's.

933
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 2: I like fat as white girl's a thick time.

934
00:46:50,600 --> 00:46:54,160
Speaker 1: So you know you can either go with you like

935
00:46:54,640 --> 00:46:58,279
Speaker 1: white I like white girls more better, okay, a thick time.

936
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:02,320
Speaker 6: Then the words pog.

937
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:04,880
Speaker 1: Pod That's what I'm like. Yeah, yeah, they say, they

938
00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:06,359
Speaker 1: say one more time and say.

939
00:47:06,280 --> 00:47:11,799
Speaker 6: It slow pug p k w G fat as white girls.

940
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:13,840
Speaker 7: Talk about.

941
00:47:15,160 --> 00:47:18,439
Speaker 6: I like fat ass white girls the thick time time.

942
00:47:19,080 --> 00:47:22,920
Speaker 6: Those are my fat.

943
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:27,200
Speaker 2: Tom And then of course uh Carlton for.

944
00:47:27,280 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 1: Me because there's some hot white thing.

945
00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:38,600
Speaker 4: Now I'm gonna say listen, I haven't known to some

946
00:47:38,840 --> 00:47:40,799
Speaker 4: white girls in my lifetime.

947
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:46,400
Speaker 5: Okay, Now I have spent my life on some.

948
00:47:46,600 --> 00:47:50,640
Speaker 3: T MC and every time you see me in a club,

949
00:47:51,200 --> 00:47:52,640
Speaker 3: just who I'll walk out with.

950
00:47:54,640 --> 00:48:03,319
Speaker 1: Love like one wait ship, So I personally, Karen, who

951
00:48:03,360 --> 00:48:06,000
Speaker 1: would you go? Alfonzo or Joshua? Who is cooting harder

952
00:48:06,040 --> 00:48:08,880
Speaker 1: for the white I do number two, Joshua, no.

953
00:48:08,960 --> 00:48:10,840
Speaker 3: No, no number number two on the video you just played.

954
00:48:11,000 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 1: Okay, so that you going with our fans over Vieriro

955
00:48:14,080 --> 00:48:18,279
Speaker 1: aka Carlton. Ninety two percent of the audience goes with Karen.

956
00:48:18,320 --> 00:48:22,640
Speaker 1: They agree. Ninety two percent audience says Carlton was clowning

957
00:48:22,800 --> 00:48:27,280
Speaker 1: way too hard for the whites, and Joshua only eight percent.

958
00:48:28,320 --> 00:48:29,680
Speaker 1: I thought he'd have a better showing.

959
00:48:29,719 --> 00:48:32,120
Speaker 2: I don't know why, but I mean I agree with

960
00:48:32,239 --> 00:48:34,200
Speaker 2: everyone's general.

961
00:48:33,960 --> 00:48:35,000
Speaker 1: Take that it's gotta be.

962
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:40,440
Speaker 3: He wasn't at a concert. Yeah, I mean that's what

963
00:48:40,640 --> 00:48:41,280
Speaker 3: those stage.

964
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,279
Speaker 1: He got on the stage to do that. Yes, and

965
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,279
Speaker 1: says our Fonzo is an embarrassment to all things Trendidadian.

966
00:48:47,840 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 1: We don't claim him anymore. MS Bond says that was

967
00:48:54,280 --> 00:48:56,879
Speaker 1: the Sunken Place episode of Fucking with Black People, ending

968
00:48:56,960 --> 00:48:59,359
Speaker 1: with Wayne Brady showing us what it looks like when

969
00:48:59,400 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you refuse going to the sunken place. Thank you for

970
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,080
Speaker 1: ending that or a happy ending. It's hard coincidence, but

971
00:49:04,200 --> 00:49:10,200
Speaker 1: you're welcome. Lord Yamina says Lord to and damn, I

972
00:49:10,280 --> 00:49:13,200
Speaker 1: forgot he's trinid daddy in Fonzo was out here so much.

973
00:49:13,560 --> 00:49:16,759
Speaker 1: It'd be like latrell from White Chicks trying to tell

974
00:49:16,840 --> 00:49:22,640
Speaker 1: him to calm his ass down. Yeah, even even the

975
00:49:23,280 --> 00:49:27,400
Speaker 1: latrell from uh from White Chicks, uh would have would

976
00:49:27,400 --> 00:49:33,800
Speaker 1: have been like, please, he loves his Molly cocaine DipEd

977
00:49:33,840 --> 00:49:37,120
Speaker 1: white girls in Peace? Oh, why can't those why can't

978
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:40,200
Speaker 1: these playing in the snow ass bastards be more like

979
00:49:40,280 --> 00:49:43,640
Speaker 1: the weekend? He loves his Molly cocaine dip white girls

980
00:49:43,719 --> 00:49:46,239
Speaker 1: in Peace, donates to black causes, and as far as

981
00:49:46,280 --> 00:49:49,200
Speaker 1: I can recall, doesn't talk shit about black women. It's

982
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:53,839
Speaker 1: really that last sentence, isn't it. I can't tell what's

983
00:49:53,880 --> 00:49:56,040
Speaker 1: in nobody's heart. I really can't. I gave up a

984
00:49:56,120 --> 00:49:59,600
Speaker 1: long time ago, and honestly, I don't for my own

985
00:49:59,640 --> 00:50:01,040
Speaker 1: piece of I don't even do.

986
00:50:01,120 --> 00:50:04,320
Speaker 2: The suspicions shit. Well, like I noticed he got a

987
00:50:04,360 --> 00:50:04,759
Speaker 2: white woman.

988
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 1: I don't care.

989
00:50:06,120 --> 00:50:07,399
Speaker 2: I don't give a fuck.

990
00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:10,160
Speaker 1: It would drive me crazy because this world has already

991
00:50:10,200 --> 00:50:12,720
Speaker 1: made me paranoid as a black person living in America.

992
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:14,799
Speaker 2: I'm already paranoid, y'all.

993
00:50:14,920 --> 00:50:18,839
Speaker 1: I don't need to think every time, some every time

994
00:50:18,880 --> 00:50:20,960
Speaker 1: a black woman shit's on black men and then she's

995
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:22,840
Speaker 1: with a white dude, I don't need to have that

996
00:50:23,040 --> 00:50:26,480
Speaker 1: internal dialogue. Whether she is it just a valid reason

997
00:50:26,640 --> 00:50:29,719
Speaker 1: or is because she hate black men she cooning, I

998
00:50:29,800 --> 00:50:32,560
Speaker 1: don't know. And unless you tell me, I would just.

999
00:50:33,480 --> 00:50:36,520
Speaker 3: Up and up, yes, sir, unto proven otherwise, it just

1000
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:38,760
Speaker 3: it's for me, for you, for everybody.

1001
00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: It's not a favor. It's for my piece of mine

1002
00:50:42,239 --> 00:50:44,880
Speaker 1: because I can easily believe everybody's full of shit. But

1003
00:50:44,960 --> 00:50:47,920
Speaker 1: I'm just like, it's easier for me to navigate. My

1004
00:50:48,040 --> 00:50:50,839
Speaker 1: dad be like, unless she come out and say something,

1005
00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:53,160
Speaker 1: unless he come out and say something, unless they come

1006
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:53,959
Speaker 1: out and say something.

1007
00:50:54,600 --> 00:50:57,279
Speaker 2: I'm just assuming that you just fell in love with

1008
00:50:57,360 --> 00:50:57,880
Speaker 2: the person you.

1009
00:50:57,920 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: Happen to love and it ain't got nothing else to

1010
00:50:59,560 --> 00:51:03,440
Speaker 1: do with it, right, But then every one while somebody

1011
00:51:03,480 --> 00:51:05,680
Speaker 1: can't wait to pop out the box and you catch them,

1012
00:51:05,760 --> 00:51:08,040
Speaker 1: and you're just like, now, why you gotta go and

1013
00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:13,040
Speaker 1: do that? But don't talk shit about black don't talk

1014
00:51:13,080 --> 00:51:16,600
Speaker 1: shit about black people, and you're good, You're gold, and

1015
00:51:16,719 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 1: no one will give a fuck, you know what I mean,

1016
00:51:19,560 --> 00:51:20,160
Speaker 1: Just don't talk.

1017
00:51:20,520 --> 00:51:24,320
Speaker 2: Just leave us alone. Nobody came for you, or the

1018
00:51:24,400 --> 00:51:26,960
Speaker 2: ones that do come for you, that's them. Don't don't.

1019
00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:29,399
Speaker 2: Don't make that are all black people think, because now

1020
00:51:29,440 --> 00:51:30,440
Speaker 2: we're gonna have an issue.

1021
00:51:31,680 --> 00:51:33,759
Speaker 1: Not getting an invite to the BT Awards is something

1022
00:51:33,760 --> 00:51:35,239
Speaker 1: that has nothing to do with the Black community as

1023
00:51:35,239 --> 00:51:37,600
Speaker 1: a whole. Yeah, I bet he just threw that in.

1024
00:51:37,840 --> 00:51:40,400
Speaker 1: I don't think that's a real thing. I think I

1025
00:51:40,480 --> 00:51:42,640
Speaker 1: feel like he definitely just threw that in as like

1026
00:51:43,120 --> 00:51:45,640
Speaker 1: white people understand BT Awards as black.

1027
00:51:47,160 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: I didn't even know his.

1028
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:50,000
Speaker 1: Ass was married, let alone to a white woman. It

1029
00:51:50,120 --> 00:51:53,200
Speaker 1: really right, no one did we assume, but we didn't know.

1030
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:55,960
Speaker 1: It really said something about these men that I think

1031
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,120
Speaker 1: that black women are in the war room plotting to

1032
00:51:58,120 --> 00:52:02,000
Speaker 1: bring down their League of Male sweller right, right, we.

1033
00:52:02,120 --> 00:52:03,480
Speaker 3: Have other shit to do.

1034
00:52:03,920 --> 00:52:07,279
Speaker 1: The League of Male Swirlers is hilarious. But yet no

1035
00:52:07,440 --> 00:52:11,560
Speaker 1: one there's not a secret meaning, there's not a cabal,

1036
00:52:12,960 --> 00:52:14,840
Speaker 1: you know, And I think a lot of it's just

1037
00:52:15,040 --> 00:52:20,120
Speaker 1: racial paranoia. Rightfully, So you do live in America and

1038
00:52:21,160 --> 00:52:26,960
Speaker 1: racism is very prevalent. But it's like, I don't know

1039
00:52:27,000 --> 00:52:28,680
Speaker 1: if I've made this joke on the show. It's a

1040
00:52:28,760 --> 00:52:30,680
Speaker 1: joke I used to have in my head that was, like,

1041
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:34,480
Speaker 1: you know, interracial people always have the story of like

1042
00:52:34,640 --> 00:52:37,319
Speaker 1: we go out and people stare at us, and it's

1043
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 1: always just happened to be the people. You know, it's

1044
00:52:39,560 --> 00:52:41,719
Speaker 1: like black women. They always try to throw it on

1045
00:52:41,840 --> 00:52:45,000
Speaker 1: Black women be staring at us and saying shit. And

1046
00:52:45,120 --> 00:52:47,960
Speaker 1: I was like, what, I think it was just an

1047
00:52:48,000 --> 00:52:50,120
Speaker 1: idea I had, like for like a sketch or something

1048
00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:53,040
Speaker 1: in my head of like you showed a couple sitting

1049
00:52:53,040 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: at the table and they look over at the black women,

1050
00:52:55,640 --> 00:52:56,640
Speaker 1: and the black women are.

1051
00:52:57,080 --> 00:52:59,719
Speaker 2: Staring at them, and then it just like cuts over

1052
00:52:59,800 --> 00:52:59,960
Speaker 2: to the.

1053
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:02,680
Speaker 1: Black women's conversation. But the conversation ain't even about that

1054
00:53:02,760 --> 00:53:05,440
Speaker 1: couple because it's like no one gives a fuck. It's

1055
00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: just like you know, and like the black women at

1056
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:09,880
Speaker 1: that table conversations like why is that interaction? Couple keep

1057
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:12,759
Speaker 1: staring at us? Ha ha ha, Like I wish they

1058
00:53:12,760 --> 00:53:15,160
Speaker 1: would mine a business, should weave to let them know

1059
00:53:15,280 --> 00:53:17,920
Speaker 1: it's okay? Like like I don't, I don't get it anyway,

1060
00:53:18,000 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 1: Like I was trying to tell you my son Jamrio

1061
00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:23,719
Speaker 1: is doing bad in school. This white girl looking over

1062
00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:24,720
Speaker 1: here again, what the fuck?

1063
00:53:25,000 --> 00:53:26,879
Speaker 3: And a lot of times I wave to be like, look,

1064
00:53:26,920 --> 00:53:28,640
Speaker 3: I'm a good one. You ain't gonna worry about me.

1065
00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:29,640
Speaker 3: I don't want your man.

1066
00:53:29,920 --> 00:53:34,200
Speaker 1: I refuse to cave to that pressure. I refuse. I

1067
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,600
Speaker 1: look at I'll give you the same friendliness I would

1068
00:53:36,600 --> 00:53:40,319
Speaker 1: treat anybody with. Yes, Yeah, go out of my way

1069
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:42,239
Speaker 1: to make you feel comfortable with some shit that I

1070
00:53:42,280 --> 00:53:45,840
Speaker 1: didn't do nothing wrong, agreed. Why the fucking mind this predicament?

1071
00:53:45,920 --> 00:53:46,040
Speaker 3: Now?

1072
00:53:46,080 --> 00:53:48,799
Speaker 1: Why I gotta like co sign your love? I don't

1073
00:53:48,880 --> 00:53:52,320
Speaker 1: know y'all, and I don't co sign anybody's love. You

1074
00:53:52,440 --> 00:53:55,360
Speaker 1: get the same amount of friendly for lightless. I give everybody,

1075
00:53:56,000 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: not no special dollar for your ass. This ain't anyway.

1076
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:05,600
Speaker 1: This is kind of ridiculous house, you know, like it's

1077
00:54:05,680 --> 00:54:09,759
Speaker 1: always some fucking and like I said, I'm not even

1078
00:54:09,840 --> 00:54:14,080
Speaker 1: assuming it never happens. I'm sure it happens because there's

1079
00:54:14,400 --> 00:54:16,520
Speaker 1: there are fucked up people that think your life is

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00:54:16,600 --> 00:54:19,200
Speaker 1: their business. But to extrapolate that on.

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00:54:19,320 --> 00:54:22,080
Speaker 2: The all of us when ninety nine percent of us

1082
00:54:22,360 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 2: just we don't have the.

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00:54:24,280 --> 00:54:28,279
Speaker 3: Time, what my life is occupied in north We just

1084
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:28,879
Speaker 3: don't care.

1085
00:54:29,080 --> 00:54:31,200
Speaker 1: Man. So I don't like that shit.

1086
00:54:33,400 --> 00:54:36,120
Speaker 2: But yeah, this is And honestly, I think a lot

1087
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:36,960
Speaker 2: of those relationships.

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00:54:37,680 --> 00:54:39,640
Speaker 1: If you are feeling that way, then it's on a

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00:54:39,719 --> 00:54:44,400
Speaker 1: foundation of we collectively hate blank type of people, and

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00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,000
Speaker 1: then we're inserting that into our relationship. It's like, I

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00:54:48,120 --> 00:54:52,360
Speaker 1: have a problem with white women or black men, or

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00:54:52,440 --> 00:54:55,200
Speaker 1: white men or black women, and now I'm gonna use

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00:54:55,280 --> 00:54:58,719
Speaker 1: this as the foundational building block of getting with someone

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00:54:58,760 --> 00:55:01,600
Speaker 1: who isn't one of these people. I don't want that either,

1095
00:55:02,840 --> 00:55:05,879
Speaker 1: you know, like I would like, Yeah, I just don't

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00:55:05,920 --> 00:55:07,800
Speaker 1: want that. I don't know what's wrong with people that do.

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00:55:08,040 --> 00:55:10,840
Speaker 1: That's crazy to me, Lakita says in the poll, I

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00:55:11,000 --> 00:55:13,440
Speaker 1: voted Carlton because didn't nobody ask this nigga the kate

1099
00:55:13,480 --> 00:55:16,160
Speaker 1: for white girls. At least they ran up on Josh

1100
00:55:16,239 --> 00:55:18,400
Speaker 1: and asked him what he liked. I think we all

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00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:22,120
Speaker 1: gathered info enough info from looking at him to not

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00:55:22,239 --> 00:55:24,960
Speaker 1: be shocked by his answer. Yeah, he did have a

1103
00:55:25,040 --> 00:55:29,439
Speaker 1: certain certain film. Also, to take it all the way back,

1104
00:55:29,560 --> 00:55:32,040
Speaker 1: what Afonso did to Janet Hubert felt like it had

1105
00:55:32,239 --> 00:55:33,239
Speaker 1: racial undertones.

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00:55:33,640 --> 00:55:35,080
Speaker 2: He did they does make you look at the.

1107
00:55:35,080 --> 00:55:38,120
Speaker 1: Different he did call her, try to be like she

1108
00:55:38,280 --> 00:55:40,920
Speaker 1: was a crazy black woman. I don't know if he

1109
00:55:41,000 --> 00:55:43,080
Speaker 1: said black, but don't you feel like he did anyway?

1110
00:55:43,239 --> 00:55:46,480
Speaker 1: Let me move off of that episode twenty three eighty four,

1111
00:55:46,840 --> 00:55:47,920
Speaker 1: you know, bitch.

1112
00:55:49,400 --> 00:55:50,960
Speaker 2: Which my mom has been saying to me.

1113
00:55:52,800 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 1: You know, bit, she she loves it, she loves it.

1114
00:55:58,080 --> 00:56:01,360
Speaker 2: She said, I gotta go watch the whole episode Lincoln.

1115
00:56:01,480 --> 00:56:05,479
Speaker 1: Uh, let's watch it Lincoln Project, which I'm like, okay,

1116
00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,839
Speaker 1: I'll watch it from a mom, but I normally don't

1117
00:56:07,920 --> 00:56:11,040
Speaker 1: fuck with them. By the way, if you are a

1118
00:56:11,520 --> 00:56:15,120
Speaker 1: Democrat and you don't like what Lincoln Project is doing

1119
00:56:15,320 --> 00:56:18,440
Speaker 1: and you don't think we should support them, you should

1120
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:24,120
Speaker 1: apologize to my girl, Michelle Obama. You owere an apology

1121
00:56:25,280 --> 00:56:27,719
Speaker 1: because that's what going low is. Letting them do the

1122
00:56:27,760 --> 00:56:30,600
Speaker 1: dirty work and supporting them, giving them money, time, whatever

1123
00:56:30,640 --> 00:56:33,719
Speaker 1: you need to do, retweets, supporting them instead of bringing

1124
00:56:33,760 --> 00:56:37,399
Speaker 1: it up all the time. You know they not good either, Yeah, nigga,

1125
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:42,160
Speaker 1: we know I want to win though, so if they're

1126
00:56:42,200 --> 00:56:44,200
Speaker 1: the ones willing to do a Trump is a fat

1127
00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:48,560
Speaker 1: eggly ball piece of shit. Added the guess what, thank you?

1128
00:56:49,880 --> 00:56:50,760
Speaker 1: Whatever it takes?

1129
00:56:52,000 --> 00:56:52,960
Speaker 2: What ill captain America?

1130
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:55,960
Speaker 1: Turn around to say whatever it takes. That's what we're

1131
00:56:56,000 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: doing anyway. Ms Martin says Michael Still was raised in

1132
00:57:00,560 --> 00:57:03,839
Speaker 1: DC and the sister was married to Mike Tyson. Yes,

1133
00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:08,520
Speaker 1: that Mike Tyson. Look, it's crazy to me too. At

1134
00:57:08,560 --> 00:57:11,160
Speaker 1: the height of his popularity, he would catch catch the

1135
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,720
Speaker 1: Metro train from DC to his home in his black

1136
00:57:14,840 --> 00:57:16,120
Speaker 1: ass Maryland suburb.

1137
00:57:17,400 --> 00:57:18,920
Speaker 2: That's it, That's what it is.

1138
00:57:19,240 --> 00:57:23,280
Speaker 1: He lived amongst the blacks. Okay, this started to make

1139
00:57:23,360 --> 00:57:26,760
Speaker 1: sense because if you would have told me what kind

1140
00:57:26,840 --> 00:57:31,479
Speaker 1: of like what what kind of shit is Michael still into?

1141
00:57:32,520 --> 00:57:34,280
Speaker 1: Like you has told me this back in like two

1142
00:57:34,360 --> 00:57:35,560
Speaker 1: thousand and one, you know what I.

1143
00:57:35,560 --> 00:57:41,440
Speaker 6: Would have thought, he said, hank aw g, Betters what girls?

1144
00:57:42,040 --> 00:57:46,200
Speaker 1: But apparently, apparently you would have lost that bet My

1145
00:57:46,320 --> 00:57:48,360
Speaker 1: girl once ran to tell him on the subway platform

1146
00:57:48,400 --> 00:57:50,920
Speaker 1: and ease right up to him, had a convo with him,

1147
00:57:50,960 --> 00:57:52,640
Speaker 1: and was taken aback by how cool he was.

1148
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:54,920
Speaker 2: She was ready for him to be on some cuonary.

1149
00:57:55,520 --> 00:57:55,640
Speaker 3: Uh.

1150
00:57:55,880 --> 00:57:57,000
Speaker 2: He is also a kappa.

1151
00:57:57,160 --> 00:57:59,520
Speaker 1: So when you see him, see him with those details

1152
00:57:59,560 --> 00:58:02,000
Speaker 1: tucked in the back in your mind. He's as conservative

1153
00:58:02,000 --> 00:58:04,280
Speaker 1: as an any old black uncle. He just managed to

1154
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: get a good government job that landing him on TV. Basically,

1155
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:10,840
Speaker 1: Michael Steele was Dwayne Brady of the Republican Party. Yeah,

1156
00:58:11,160 --> 00:58:13,000
Speaker 1: like I said, back when I used to watch.

1157
00:58:14,240 --> 00:58:14,760
Speaker 2: Bill Maher.

1158
00:58:15,520 --> 00:58:17,640
Speaker 1: Obviously, has been you know, it's been a long time.

1159
00:58:18,720 --> 00:58:20,680
Speaker 1: He would be on there as the black Conservative every

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00:58:20,720 --> 00:58:21,160
Speaker 1: once in a while.

1161
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:21,320
Speaker 4: Now.

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00:58:21,360 --> 00:58:24,200
Speaker 2: I used to always be just like, well, why are

1163
00:58:24,240 --> 00:58:25,640
Speaker 2: you still why are you conserve?

1164
00:58:25,800 --> 00:58:29,600
Speaker 1: Everything I said up until I'm Republican made a lot

1165
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 1: of sense, and then you start saying that republican shit,

1166
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,120
Speaker 1: and I'm just like, what are you talking about? Uh?

1167
00:58:36,480 --> 00:58:42,000
Speaker 1: Niggas niggas. Nick says, I was halfway through the episode

1168
00:58:42,080 --> 00:58:44,320
Speaker 1: and was behind the day and almost skipped to the

1169
00:58:44,400 --> 00:58:46,960
Speaker 1: next episode, but my spirit told me to finish this

1170
00:58:47,080 --> 00:58:50,360
Speaker 1: and see why the episode is named you know, bitch haha.

1171
00:58:51,000 --> 00:58:53,560
Speaker 1: Completely worth it. I'm glad you enjoyed it.

1172
00:58:55,400 --> 00:58:57,080
Speaker 2: Let's see, we have a poll.

1173
00:58:57,640 --> 00:59:00,040
Speaker 1: Who is responsible for the surgeon COVID cases? Because this

1174
00:59:00,160 --> 00:59:03,160
Speaker 1: is a pole it was going around. Everybody was asking

1175
00:59:03,520 --> 00:59:07,040
Speaker 1: the questions and their different answers. So who's responsible for

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00:59:07,080 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: the surge and COVID cases? Care? U, the unvaccinated, the

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00:59:11,880 --> 00:59:18,160
Speaker 1: CDC and FAUCI, the mainstream media, Donald Trump, Joe Biden,

1178
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:22,760
Speaker 1: Americans traveling internationally or immigrants care?

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00:59:27,080 --> 00:59:29,120
Speaker 3: Can't there be a most? Just one?

1180
00:59:29,520 --> 00:59:30,720
Speaker 1: Do I need to do them all again?

1181
00:59:30,800 --> 00:59:32,800
Speaker 3: No? You don't win. The unvaccinated shit.

1182
00:59:32,800 --> 00:59:34,800
Speaker 2: Eighty four percent said the unvaccinated.

1183
00:59:34,880 --> 00:59:37,160
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's an unvaccinated Trump and some other

1184
00:59:37,200 --> 00:59:38,760
Speaker 3: shit too, But if I got to pick one, it's

1185
00:59:38,760 --> 00:59:40,160
Speaker 3: them motherfuckers that won't get the shot.

1186
00:59:40,560 --> 00:59:44,480
Speaker 1: Eighty four percent said the unvaccinated, ten percent said Donald Trump,

1187
00:59:44,840 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 1: three percent said americans traveling internationally, two percent said the

1188
00:59:49,320 --> 00:59:53,480
Speaker 1: mainstream media, and zero said CDC fauci, which is my

1189
00:59:53,640 --> 00:59:58,840
Speaker 1: fucking point, zero said Joe Biden, and zero said immigrants,

1190
00:59:59,760 --> 01:00:01,840
Speaker 1: Like I think y'all just want to prove a point,

1191
01:00:02,760 --> 01:00:05,200
Speaker 1: which is like, I get that motherfuckers want to make

1192
01:00:05,280 --> 01:00:05,640
Speaker 1: this into it.

1193
01:00:05,720 --> 01:00:06,880
Speaker 2: It's a CDC fault thing.

1194
01:00:07,040 --> 01:00:07,360
Speaker 3: It's not.

1195
01:00:08,760 --> 01:00:11,440
Speaker 1: These niggas know better than they just don't care. The

1196
01:00:11,520 --> 01:00:13,520
Speaker 1: fact that people went, well, they got it. The CDC

1197
01:00:13,600 --> 01:00:16,480
Speaker 1: needs to understand when they said vaccinated people didn't need

1198
01:00:16,520 --> 01:00:18,880
Speaker 1: to wear a mask, that other people will take it

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01:00:18,920 --> 01:00:22,320
Speaker 1: off too, which is exactly what they told them not

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01:00:22,520 --> 01:00:22,800
Speaker 1: to do.

1201
01:00:23,880 --> 01:00:27,080
Speaker 2: So that's not that they didn't understand, they just didn't care, right,

1202
01:00:27,240 --> 01:00:28,280
Speaker 2: and they never will.

1203
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 1: By the way, unless y'all are planning on living with

1204
01:00:30,440 --> 01:00:32,439
Speaker 1: these masks for the rest of our entire lives, which

1205
01:00:32,480 --> 01:00:33,640
Speaker 1: maybe you are, It's fine.

1206
01:00:33,640 --> 01:00:35,840
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna argue with you, But unless that's what

1207
01:00:35,960 --> 01:00:36,880
Speaker 2: you're planning.

1208
01:00:37,080 --> 01:00:40,400
Speaker 1: Understand, there will be a day when these maskless motherfuckers

1209
01:00:41,040 --> 01:00:45,880
Speaker 1: will also these anti vaccine, anti COVID you know, those motherfuckers,

1210
01:00:46,160 --> 01:00:48,680
Speaker 1: they will take a mask off and not care if

1211
01:00:48,680 --> 01:00:49,440
Speaker 1: it's gonna kill them.

1212
01:00:51,200 --> 01:00:52,680
Speaker 2: So I don't know what we're gonna do about.

1213
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:55,840
Speaker 1: These people, Evie East, I say, listen, we gotta give

1214
01:00:55,920 --> 01:01:02,040
Speaker 1: people vaccine cards, right, everybody gets vaccine cards. And if

1215
01:01:02,120 --> 01:01:05,040
Speaker 1: you get one, if you're not vaccinated, then we make

1216
01:01:05,120 --> 01:01:07,880
Speaker 1: you carry around, you know, a symbol that says not vaccinated.

1217
01:01:08,280 --> 01:01:12,680
Speaker 1: Then we put them in ghettos. Okay, gather them up

1218
01:01:13,800 --> 01:01:16,680
Speaker 1: and we start, like, you know, may putting them in camps,

1219
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:19,480
Speaker 1: you know. And oh ship Markie Taylor Green was right,

1220
01:01:22,000 --> 01:01:24,640
Speaker 1: all right, he says, I placed the blame firmly on

1221
01:01:24,720 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 1: Donald Trump's fee. They really think that the Jesus at

1222
01:01:27,320 --> 01:01:32,560
Speaker 1: the hot cost and it's like you're just you're the Holocauugh, Okay,

1223
01:01:32,800 --> 01:01:36,520
Speaker 1: that's what you're doing. You're killing yourself. The fucking hospitals

1224
01:01:36,560 --> 01:01:39,240
Speaker 1: are full. You're killing yourself. No one else is doing

1225
01:01:39,280 --> 01:01:43,360
Speaker 1: this to you, you idiot. Evie says, I placed the

1226
01:01:43,440 --> 01:01:46,680
Speaker 1: blame fairly firmly at Donald Trump's feed. He had he

1227
01:01:46,760 --> 01:01:48,880
Speaker 1: acted like a decent human being for once in his

1228
01:01:49,000 --> 01:01:51,640
Speaker 1: life and handled this pandemic like someone who actually gives

1229
01:01:51,680 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: a fuck, there wouldn't be so many of his followers

1230
01:01:53,720 --> 01:01:56,480
Speaker 1: refusing to get vaccinated. I believe the vast majority of

1231
01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:59,560
Speaker 1: the people who are unvaccinated are Trump supporters. DeSantis and

1232
01:01:59,560 --> 01:02:01,760
Speaker 1: Abbot are following in his footsteps in hopes of getting

1233
01:02:01,760 --> 01:02:03,720
Speaker 1: the next Trump. So, yes, they deserve to die. I

1234
01:02:03,800 --> 01:02:05,560
Speaker 1: hope they burn a hell. It's a good point, ev

1235
01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:08,800
Speaker 1: And uh yeah, not to play semantics with you, because

1236
01:02:08,840 --> 01:02:11,600
Speaker 1: I think Donald Trump was partially responsible as well. But

1237
01:02:11,960 --> 01:02:13,600
Speaker 1: at this point, Donald Trump's been out of.

1238
01:02:13,640 --> 01:02:16,560
Speaker 3: Office since January.

1239
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:19,200
Speaker 1: Yes, yes, Donald Trump's been out office. What the fuck

1240
01:02:19,320 --> 01:02:23,240
Speaker 1: is this? At this point, you now own your unvaccinated status,

1241
01:02:23,280 --> 01:02:24,880
Speaker 1: regardless of your political affiliation.

1242
01:02:25,240 --> 01:02:28,320
Speaker 2: That's you, dog, Lakita said.

1243
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:30,480
Speaker 1: So, I voted the unvaccinated, but I blamed them on

1244
01:02:30,600 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 1: the disinformation campaign and Trump administration and that several motherfucker

1245
01:02:33,840 --> 01:02:36,360
Speaker 1: that people pretending it was credible for four fucking years.

1246
01:02:36,400 --> 01:02:38,840
Speaker 1: I'm still saucy. I don't know if you can tell, lol.

1247
01:02:40,040 --> 01:02:42,400
Speaker 1: Bridget says, I wish there was a combo option. This

1248
01:02:42,520 --> 01:02:45,400
Speaker 1: answer could be like what happens first chicken or the egg.

1249
01:02:45,600 --> 01:02:49,320
Speaker 1: If Tupe Fiasco shout out to BOSSI had handled the

1250
01:02:49,400 --> 01:02:52,920
Speaker 1: pandemic from Jump, then things wouldn't be all fucked up now.

1251
01:02:53,000 --> 01:02:56,600
Speaker 1: But scientifically, viruses naturally mutating if the host is unvaccinated,

1252
01:02:56,640 --> 01:02:59,600
Speaker 1: then you got the surge in Delta cases. It's truly yeah,

1253
01:03:00,000 --> 01:03:02,520
Speaker 1: you think about the Delta case. Thing is, people are like,

1254
01:03:02,640 --> 01:03:06,480
Speaker 1: it's the variants. But from my understanding that Delta started

1255
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,200
Speaker 1: in India, which didn't have vaccines, So Delta probably would

1256
01:03:11,200 --> 01:03:13,880
Speaker 1: have existed whether these people here were vaccinateed or not.

1257
01:03:15,280 --> 01:03:18,480
Speaker 1: That was gonna happen because there's inequity of vaccines around

1258
01:03:18,520 --> 01:03:22,000
Speaker 1: the world. But still, it's not like these people are

1259
01:03:22,120 --> 01:03:25,680
Speaker 1: helping and we're probably gonna have some American so American

1260
01:03:25,800 --> 01:03:30,280
Speaker 1: first variants that's gonna be coming out. It's truly scary

1261
01:03:30,320 --> 01:03:32,560
Speaker 1: what's happening, especially with kids going back to school soon.

1262
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,080
Speaker 1: I live in Memphis and I see you beds and

1263
01:03:36,120 --> 01:03:39,280
Speaker 1: the children's hospitals are full. It's good our Health Department

1264
01:03:39,360 --> 01:03:42,240
Speaker 1: is mandating masks for all school systems, But howard kids

1265
01:03:42,280 --> 01:03:45,160
Speaker 1: going to social distance, Plus you know most kids haven't

1266
01:03:45,160 --> 01:03:48,000
Speaker 1: seen their friends in a year, so you know, hugs

1267
01:03:48,040 --> 01:03:50,720
Speaker 1: will happen. Kids probably won't keep their mask on. It's

1268
01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:53,800
Speaker 1: a lot to think about. I've been yeah, and are

1269
01:03:53,840 --> 01:03:58,800
Speaker 1: they gonna do recess? It's gym still thing like, how's

1270
01:03:58,840 --> 01:04:01,800
Speaker 1: this gonna work? Kids?

1271
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,240
Speaker 2: It's a lot to think about.

1272
01:04:04,280 --> 01:04:06,400
Speaker 1: I've seen people blaming the CDC for dropping a mask

1273
01:04:06,440 --> 01:04:08,400
Speaker 1: man a day, But the key phrase that people are

1274
01:04:08,480 --> 01:04:10,920
Speaker 1: missing is the unvaccinated was supposed to keep wearing a

1275
01:04:11,000 --> 01:04:12,120
Speaker 1: mask in social distance.

1276
01:04:12,600 --> 01:04:15,400
Speaker 2: That that's their ass is not falling directions.

1277
01:04:15,040 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 3: Yes, and nobody wants to blame them, and it wasn't incentive.

1278
01:04:19,560 --> 01:04:21,360
Speaker 1: Hey, your whole thing is I don't want to wear

1279
01:04:21,400 --> 01:04:24,400
Speaker 1: a mask six weeks from now, you cannot be wearing

1280
01:04:24,440 --> 01:04:26,600
Speaker 1: a mask if you just do the right thing. And

1281
01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:29,360
Speaker 1: instead they were like, I'm just taking my mask off anyway,

1282
01:04:29,880 --> 01:04:33,240
Speaker 1: which I don't know why people feel like that wasn't

1283
01:04:33,320 --> 01:04:36,600
Speaker 1: going to happen eventually. It was already happening around the

1284
01:04:36,680 --> 01:04:39,040
Speaker 1: country with people being like, I just don't feel like

1285
01:04:39,080 --> 01:04:39,680
Speaker 1: wearing a mask.

1286
01:04:39,760 --> 01:04:44,480
Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. Uh So now we got the

1287
01:04:44,560 --> 01:04:45,760
Speaker 2: divine nine Varians.

1288
01:04:47,000 --> 01:04:51,200
Speaker 1: No, no, no.

1289
01:04:51,840 --> 01:04:53,880
Speaker 3: I thought they're gonna go through the whole alphabet.

1290
01:04:54,320 --> 01:04:56,600
Speaker 1: We got a light skinned AKA variant.

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Speaker 3: We got we got out of depth of Becauzata's coming up.

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Speaker 3: We got a variant that's.

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Speaker 2: Stomping through the yard like the Ovellions.

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Speaker 3: Come on, Q and Sigmas.

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Speaker 1: Right, we got Sigma barrions that ain't got no friends

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Speaker 1: they talking about.

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Speaker 2: They got another campus they need to get to. I'm

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Speaker 2: just joking, Sigmas.

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Speaker 3: I love y'all.

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Speaker 1: Aaron is a Sigma. It's one of my best friends.

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Speaker 1: Calm down, everybody. Uh So, now they get mad or

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Speaker 1: is it the iotas they get mad? It's one of

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Speaker 1: them niggas that get mad because they don't be on

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Speaker 1: no campuses. I can't remember his name.

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Speaker 3: The name now, I don't remember. I knew what.

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Speaker 2: We had one of them on Fairvielle State.

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Speaker 1: That's one, and I won't say it was old and

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Speaker 1: he had to go to another campus to do all

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Speaker 1: his ship.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, that's just one.

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Speaker 1: And he was kind of a nerd. So I associate

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Speaker 1: Ioda with all that ship. But maybe they cool on

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Speaker 1: other campuses. I don't know. So now we got nine

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Speaker 1: variants on vaccinate children and teens, including which are about

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Speaker 1: the congreg for eight hours a day, five days a week.

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Speaker 1: Woo said, God bless, thank you so much for keeping

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Speaker 1: us tippers of breast of the coronavirus news is now.

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Speaker 1: It's how it stayed saying and hitting people with facts.

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Speaker 1: Bridget thank you, glad it's helping somebody, you know. And

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Speaker 1: the last episode was twenty three eighty five Billionaireana Folk

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Speaker 1: comments and said it's warning long. Guess say comment it's

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Speaker 1: not even that long, y'all. Just my opinion about how

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Speaker 1: billionaires are viewed in today's society. I disagree with that.

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Speaker 5: I did it.

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Speaker 1: There's a difference between Jeff Bezos and Jay Z. Both

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Speaker 1: men earned their money in the beginning of their careers.

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01:06:27,760 --> 01:06:30,160
Speaker 1: Bezo started his company's garage and no one believed in

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01:06:30,160 --> 01:06:33,040
Speaker 1: the concept of e commerce. His success wasn't overnight, and

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Speaker 1: his wealth wasn't solely from treated workers poorly. Yeah, except

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Speaker 1: his parents gave him some money. Hold on, glad you

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01:06:40,880 --> 01:06:48,720
Speaker 1: brought this up, because he even downplays it as not

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Speaker 1: that much money. But his parents gave.

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Speaker 2: Him a loan of three hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot of money.

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Speaker 1: So I completely reject everything that you're about to go

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Speaker 1: on to say and because uh, that's different than me.

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01:07:00,920 --> 01:07:04,160
Speaker 1: Even if jay Z sold drugs, that's money he earned.

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01:07:04,320 --> 01:07:06,320
Speaker 1: He put his life on the line to go sell them.

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01:07:06,320 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: Drugs and risk prison and all this shit.

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Speaker 1: To me, that's a much more treacherous path than a

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01:07:13,160 --> 01:07:16,720
Speaker 1: small three hundred thousand dollars loan from your mom, you

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01:07:16,800 --> 01:07:20,480
Speaker 1: know what I mean. So that's important. Success wasn't overnight,

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01:07:20,520 --> 01:07:22,560
Speaker 1: and a wealth wasn't sold from tree workers poorly. Likewise,

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01:07:22,640 --> 01:07:24,000
Speaker 1: jay Z had to be smart enough to make an

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01:07:24,080 --> 01:07:26,960
Speaker 1: unknown record company successful when people still thought hip hop

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01:07:27,080 --> 01:07:29,440
Speaker 1: was a fat His success was an instant either. But

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01:07:29,640 --> 01:07:32,560
Speaker 1: they're both ambitious people who follow their intuition. Bezos only

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01:07:32,600 --> 01:07:34,280
Speaker 1: has more money in jay Z because he created a

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01:07:34,320 --> 01:07:36,720
Speaker 1: new way to buy different things that was a more

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01:07:36,800 --> 01:07:38,440
Speaker 1: profitable business than selling music.

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Speaker 2: Maybe with square by a title, that may change.

1352
01:07:41,000 --> 01:07:43,040
Speaker 1: But the bottom line is I think they're both the

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Speaker 1: same as far as billionaires are concerned. Yeah, I would disagree.

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Speaker 3: In I would disagree too. And it's one of those

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01:07:48,080 --> 01:07:53,320
Speaker 3: things where has anybody from you know, underneath jay Z

1356
01:07:53,520 --> 01:07:55,360
Speaker 3: came out and said he treats the workers poorly?

1357
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Speaker 2: Have they said they were, I'm sure they I would imagine.

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01:07:59,400 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: I mean he's dealing with volatile niggas like Beanie Siegull

1359
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,600
Speaker 1: that was shooting up people and forever gonna be mad

1360
01:08:06,640 --> 01:08:08,800
Speaker 1: at jay z No, I mean like right now, like

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Speaker 1: like because with Jeff Bezon title and all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't I never feel I never

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01:08:15,000 --> 01:08:18,439
Speaker 1: feel secure saying something is not happening because it might

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01:08:18,520 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: be just like Bezos, it might be years from now

1365
01:08:20,560 --> 01:08:23,280
Speaker 1: we're like, well, jay z used to beat everybody title, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what put this.

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Speaker 3: We don't know what jay z No journalists has broke

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Speaker 3: the store, but we actually know with Jeff Bezos, what

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01:08:31,920 --> 01:08:33,519
Speaker 3: the fuck is some of the things that are happened

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Speaker 3: in at Amazon.

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Speaker 1: That being said, and I kind of agree with your

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Speaker 1: general premise, which is I don't necessarily know that Jeff

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01:08:41,840 --> 01:08:44,800
Speaker 1: Bezos is evil in the way that the that people

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Speaker 1: try to put them like, some of this shit is just.

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Speaker 3: Is.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm glad we're having we're on the podcast and

1377
01:08:52,960 --> 01:08:56,640
Speaker 1: not Twitter, but some of this stuff is just group dynamics,

1378
01:08:57,320 --> 01:09:02,040
Speaker 1: and billionaires are such a small group of people. It's

1379
01:09:02,200 --> 01:09:05,719
Speaker 1: easy to just blump them all together, say that terrible,

1380
01:09:06,240 --> 01:09:09,120
Speaker 1: say they're horrible, and it's mostly kind of coming from

1381
01:09:09,160 --> 01:09:12,320
Speaker 1: a weird envy and jealousy place, not an actual like

1382
01:09:12,840 --> 01:09:15,880
Speaker 1: this is what they did place, and we really love

1383
01:09:16,000 --> 01:09:19,400
Speaker 1: to individualize it when a lot of times the quote

1384
01:09:19,479 --> 01:09:23,720
Speaker 1: unquote evil shit that really has like fucked up a

1385
01:09:23,800 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: bunch of environmental stuff is more of a corporate situation.

1386
01:09:27,920 --> 01:09:30,600
Speaker 1: It's less not but the billionaires as of late, and

1387
01:09:30,680 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: maybe they've always been this way, but as of late,

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01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: a lot of these billionaires, in an age of social

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01:09:35,120 --> 01:09:37,439
Speaker 1: media and all this shit, have really decided to be

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Speaker 1: their own brand. Like there was never a reason for

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Speaker 1: us to really know anything about Jeff Bezos. He put

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Speaker 1: himself out there. Bill Gates, who gives a lot of

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Speaker 1: money away and it's extremely charitable, and seems to be

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01:09:52,040 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: using his money try to solve these huge world problems

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01:09:55,200 --> 01:09:58,880
Speaker 1: that feel impossible to solve. I think he's stopped even

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01:09:59,000 --> 01:10:02,120
Speaker 1: working at micros is just Bill and mclenda Gates Foundation

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Speaker 1: all the time. That dude seem like a good dude.

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Speaker 1: I don't know, I don't think you know, like I

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01:10:08,040 --> 01:10:10,120
Speaker 1: guess now just the Bill Gates Foundation, right, didn't they

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01:10:10,160 --> 01:10:13,639
Speaker 1: break up? But yeah, he seemed like of the scale

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01:10:13,680 --> 01:10:16,360
Speaker 1: of trying to do what you can with those resources.

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01:10:17,280 --> 01:10:19,759
Speaker 1: He seemed like a pretty good person. People just seem

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01:10:19,880 --> 01:10:23,120
Speaker 1: mostly jealous whenever redistribute that we're Like I saw when

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01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:26,559
Speaker 1: they announced Rihanna make is worth a billion, a bunch

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01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:29,600
Speaker 1: of people start going redistribute the wealth. Now, Sis, what

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01:10:29,680 --> 01:10:32,120
Speaker 1: does that even fucking mean? Yeah, like you and get

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01:10:32,160 --> 01:10:33,880
Speaker 1: a Rihanna check in the mail. Shut the fuck up.

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Speaker 2: You don't know what you're talking about.

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Speaker 3: Right, And a lot of times I think that a

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Speaker 3: lot of people look at individual billionaires to actually do

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01:10:41,120 --> 01:10:43,680
Speaker 3: the job of the fucking government. That's the government's job

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01:10:43,760 --> 01:10:46,000
Speaker 3: to actually do certain things and tax and all that

1413
01:10:46,080 --> 01:10:48,679
Speaker 3: stuff if you want to quote unquote redistribute the wealth

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01:10:48,760 --> 01:10:51,920
Speaker 3: and actually get it where people are getting helped in

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01:10:51,960 --> 01:10:54,280
Speaker 3: the places that they need help. But I do agree

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01:10:54,320 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 3: with you. I think a lot of it does come

1417
01:10:55,840 --> 01:10:57,880
Speaker 3: from jealousy and paining this and not that stuff, And

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01:10:58,320 --> 01:10:58,680
Speaker 3: a lot of it.

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01:10:58,720 --> 01:11:00,800
Speaker 1: Because a lot of times they be doing it right,

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01:11:01,120 --> 01:11:02,760
Speaker 1: Like the ship that people are like they should do

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01:11:02,880 --> 01:11:05,560
Speaker 1: this with the money, they be doing it. So it's like,

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01:11:05,640 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: what are you even mad about? Like I can see

1423
01:11:08,160 --> 01:11:11,479
Speaker 1: if you were mad at like Exxon or I know

1424
01:11:11,680 --> 01:11:18,840
Speaker 1: the family that fucking that started. Uh selling the opioids

1425
01:11:19,000 --> 01:11:22,200
Speaker 1: to people in lit about how that's some evil rich

1426
01:11:22,240 --> 01:11:24,599
Speaker 1: people shit, but it never beat them because them people

1427
01:11:24,680 --> 01:11:27,320
Speaker 1: not all up in the videos right that. You know,

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01:11:27,520 --> 01:11:29,840
Speaker 1: it's always like, you know, and like I said, I

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01:11:29,840 --> 01:11:31,439
Speaker 1: don't I'm not saying that peop are good people, but

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01:11:31,520 --> 01:11:34,720
Speaker 1: it's always like the fame part of it. It's the

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01:11:35,600 --> 01:11:39,519
Speaker 1: you know, it's Elon Musk wants to be famous, so

1432
01:11:39,720 --> 01:11:42,840
Speaker 1: we're gonna shit on him for that, and he must

1433
01:11:42,880 --> 01:11:45,439
Speaker 1: be a bad person. But you know, and then they

1434
01:11:45,520 --> 01:11:48,439
Speaker 1: started moving trickling down to it must be Rihanna, it

1435
01:11:48,520 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: must be jay Z, it must be Beyonce. I don't

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01:11:51,400 --> 01:11:54,000
Speaker 1: know that all these motherfuckers are the same, you know,

1437
01:11:54,200 --> 01:11:56,000
Speaker 1: you know what I mean. Lebron's gonna be a billionaire

1438
01:11:56,000 --> 01:11:57,720
Speaker 1: at some point. I don't think I would not put

1439
01:11:57,800 --> 01:12:01,240
Speaker 1: him in the same category as the Bessels. I wouldn't.

1440
01:12:01,560 --> 01:12:03,360
Speaker 1: And for the real I'm not even a person that

1441
01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,360
Speaker 1: hates Jeff Bezels. My point being like, it's just a

1442
01:12:06,479 --> 01:12:10,040
Speaker 1: totally different type of thing because the work ethic and

1443
01:12:10,120 --> 01:12:12,519
Speaker 1: the risk that someone has to take to be like

1444
01:12:12,920 --> 01:12:15,960
Speaker 1: to turn being really good at basketball to a billionaire

1445
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:19,600
Speaker 1: is a different journey. Then the guy that gets a

1446
01:12:19,640 --> 01:12:22,439
Speaker 1: three hundred thousand dollars loan from his parents and becomes

1447
01:12:22,479 --> 01:12:25,559
Speaker 1: a billionaire. That is a different journey, and people treat

1448
01:12:25,600 --> 01:12:28,840
Speaker 1: them with the same level of like cynicism, And I

1449
01:12:28,880 --> 01:12:31,280
Speaker 1: don't think it's deserved, you know.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's the thing. And I think a lot

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01:12:33,520 --> 01:12:35,960
Speaker 3: of people getting too good and evil and the world

1452
01:12:36,080 --> 01:12:38,960
Speaker 3: is great. A lot of people get in billionaires bad,

1453
01:12:39,120 --> 01:12:41,559
Speaker 3: everybody else good. No, that's a lot of broke niggas.

1454
01:12:41,560 --> 01:12:43,439
Speaker 3: It's evil and bad to do it. Fucked up shit

1455
01:12:43,479 --> 01:12:45,080
Speaker 3: out of time too, but they just don't have the

1456
01:12:45,120 --> 01:12:47,559
Speaker 3: same money and resources. But you wouldn't call them bad though.

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01:12:47,800 --> 01:12:52,320
Speaker 1: Yeah, they'll find they'll find a way to they'll find

1458
01:12:52,360 --> 01:12:56,519
Speaker 1: a way without truly finding anything out negative about the person, like,

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01:12:56,600 --> 01:12:59,160
Speaker 1: they'll find a way to do it. And it's partially

1460
01:12:59,240 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: because of our society where and because they're feeding into it.

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01:13:04,120 --> 01:13:07,920
Speaker 1: This billionaire is representative of this company and when what

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01:13:08,000 --> 01:13:10,439
Speaker 1: people will say is, well, this company did something fucked up,

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01:13:10,520 --> 01:13:13,519
Speaker 1: so it's really on them where it's like I doubt

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01:13:13,640 --> 01:13:16,800
Speaker 1: Mark Cuban is in the office going, you know what

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01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:18,280
Speaker 1: I really want to happen today.

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Speaker 2: I really love for y'all to do a whole lot

1467
01:13:20,320 --> 01:13:21,120
Speaker 2: of sexual harassment.

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01:13:21,280 --> 01:13:23,320
Speaker 1: Like, I doubt it that's what happened, but that's what

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01:13:23,400 --> 01:13:25,840
Speaker 1: we equate it to. You know, someone just brought up

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Speaker 1: Bill Gates and like, well I heard some of his company.

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01:13:28,040 --> 01:13:31,519
Speaker 1: Dude's blank right, he was walking in the office saying, hey,

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01:13:32,160 --> 01:13:33,960
Speaker 1: fuck it, let's do it this way, Let's do it

1473
01:13:34,000 --> 01:13:34,800
Speaker 1: the fucked up way.

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01:13:35,360 --> 01:13:37,880
Speaker 2: That same guy's like, but I also want to kill

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01:13:37,920 --> 01:13:39,000
Speaker 2: the world with this vaccine.

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Speaker 1: I doubt it, you know what I mean. I doubt

1477
01:13:41,600 --> 01:13:44,720
Speaker 1: it's that simple. Maybe they don't have enough oversight. Maybe

1478
01:13:44,760 --> 01:13:46,599
Speaker 1: they fucked up and made it some type of mistake.

1479
01:13:46,640 --> 01:13:49,840
Speaker 1: Because none of these motherfuckers really can manage our big

1480
01:13:49,960 --> 01:13:51,880
Speaker 1: look at the dude from Facebook, you can't manage that.

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01:13:52,680 --> 01:13:53,080
Speaker 8: They like.

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01:13:53,479 --> 01:13:56,080
Speaker 1: This shit is just like it's a lot to these people,

1483
01:13:56,439 --> 01:13:59,360
Speaker 1: ego wise and all this shit. My point being, they

1484
01:13:59,520 --> 01:14:01,679
Speaker 1: just not all all the same. And I don't necessarily

1485
01:14:01,760 --> 01:14:05,280
Speaker 1: know that they're all evil, megalo maniac people.

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01:14:05,320 --> 01:14:09,040
Speaker 3: I don't know they're rubbing their hands. Can I fuck

1487
01:14:09,080 --> 01:14:11,599
Speaker 3: over these broke niggas every day? They don't care about us?

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01:14:11,920 --> 01:14:15,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's it. I think what what people really are

1489
01:14:15,240 --> 01:14:20,280
Speaker 1: saying is if them having a lot of money makes

1490
01:14:20,360 --> 01:14:24,560
Speaker 1: them evil. My lack of money makes me virtuous.

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01:14:24,439 --> 01:14:25,200
Speaker 3: Right said.

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01:14:25,720 --> 01:14:28,519
Speaker 1: They don't even understand the slight of hand they're playing

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01:14:29,080 --> 01:14:31,439
Speaker 1: because it essentially us going, we're a lot closer to

1494
01:14:31,600 --> 01:14:34,439
Speaker 1: broke than rich, Right, so I must be a good person.

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01:14:35,320 --> 01:14:37,599
Speaker 1: That's that's really all they're saying. It's like these people

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01:14:37,720 --> 01:14:39,479
Speaker 1: must all be evil. That's why we don't need to

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01:14:39,520 --> 01:14:41,840
Speaker 1: talk about them individually. We don't need to look at

1498
01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:43,920
Speaker 1: how they made their money, we don't need to look

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01:14:43,960 --> 01:14:45,920
Speaker 1: at what they do with their money. They're all evil.

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01:14:46,439 --> 01:14:50,599
Speaker 1: All billionaires are bad, Okay, cool, Therefore all broke people good,

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01:14:50,920 --> 01:14:53,920
Speaker 1: and I'm broke, so I'm better than them. Yep.

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01:14:55,560 --> 01:14:57,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, the world is gray. But you know, you let

1503
01:14:57,960 --> 01:14:59,960
Speaker 3: online the internet to you everything out to being black.

1504
01:15:00,600 --> 01:15:03,160
Speaker 2: The fact that Rihanna was cool at nine hundred and

1505
01:15:03,240 --> 01:15:07,600
Speaker 2: ninety nine million but not cool at a billion is insane.

1506
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:09,679
Speaker 1: You're not a thinking person.

1507
01:15:10,640 --> 01:15:13,320
Speaker 2: She was exploiting people, then, she was exploiting.

1508
01:15:12,880 --> 01:15:16,320
Speaker 1: People all the way through there. It didn't like start

1509
01:15:16,360 --> 01:15:19,439
Speaker 1: at a billion dollars. So when you were buying her makeup,

1510
01:15:19,520 --> 01:15:22,000
Speaker 1: when you were standing for her, when you were proud

1511
01:15:22,080 --> 01:15:24,600
Speaker 1: that she was dating a billionaire, that you didn't she

1512
01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:28,640
Speaker 1: only days Richmond, you were still praising that worship of

1513
01:15:29,320 --> 01:15:32,760
Speaker 1: white supremacy and money and hoarding and collecting. Well, you

1514
01:15:33,280 --> 01:15:36,040
Speaker 1: praise that shit when you're happy she secure as a bag,

1515
01:15:36,320 --> 01:15:38,759
Speaker 1: when you're happy she sells a business, when you're happy

1516
01:15:38,800 --> 01:15:42,160
Speaker 1: that her brand is making a lot of money. Cool,

1517
01:15:42,360 --> 01:15:46,400
Speaker 1: you're celebrating that even when you are saying I want

1518
01:15:46,439 --> 01:15:50,760
Speaker 1: her to have more inclusiveness and sell her lingerde of

1519
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:54,639
Speaker 1: bigger sized bodies, you're still putting money in her fucking pocket.

1520
01:15:55,240 --> 01:15:57,560
Speaker 1: And it's weird to then turn around and be like,

1521
01:15:57,800 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: this evil bitch you asked for every step of the way.

1522
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:03,519
Speaker 1: How is it just now getting the evil for you?

1523
01:16:04,240 --> 01:16:04,400
Speaker 4: Yep?

1524
01:16:04,560 --> 01:16:05,360
Speaker 1: It's crazy to me.

1525
01:16:05,520 --> 01:16:07,479
Speaker 3: That shit don't make sense, no, because they just have

1526
01:16:07,600 --> 01:16:09,679
Speaker 3: that line and they feel like once you cross that line,

1527
01:16:09,680 --> 01:16:11,120
Speaker 3: all of a sudden you're not one of us.

1528
01:16:11,840 --> 01:16:14,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, this is wild man anyway, good luck?

1529
01:16:16,560 --> 01:16:20,519
Speaker 1: Uh and miss Barnes says graduation of rereachieving the mousetone

1530
01:16:20,520 --> 01:16:22,160
Speaker 1: a wealth shout out to the return to Adam and

1531
01:16:22,160 --> 01:16:24,599
Speaker 1: Eve as I missed those ass Well, listen, we get

1532
01:16:24,720 --> 01:16:27,000
Speaker 1: enough of them, maybe we'd be billionaires and everybody can

1533
01:16:27,080 --> 01:16:27,400
Speaker 1: hate us.

1534
01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:29,280
Speaker 3: I can't wait.

1535
01:16:29,520 --> 01:16:31,720
Speaker 1: You know, Adam and Eve beats people, and Rod and

1536
01:16:31,800 --> 01:16:36,240
Speaker 1: them didn't even call. Uh Stland said, hey, Rod and

1537
01:16:36,360 --> 01:16:38,439
Speaker 1: Karen at one thousand percent agree with your thoughts. I

1538
01:16:38,520 --> 01:16:40,960
Speaker 1: need to Turner, especially though, how leftist types operate to

1539
01:16:40,960 --> 01:16:44,439
Speaker 1: a peace whiteness like Grit's without flavor. I didn't get

1540
01:16:44,439 --> 01:16:47,439
Speaker 1: a chance to follow her on Chantelle Brown's campaigns closely,

1541
01:16:47,560 --> 01:16:49,960
Speaker 1: since I'm pretty busy with work these days, but I

1542
01:16:50,080 --> 01:16:51,800
Speaker 1: was able to pick up a few details here and there.

1543
01:16:51,880 --> 01:16:53,680
Speaker 1: Turner just seems to be here for the grift and

1544
01:16:53,760 --> 01:16:57,200
Speaker 1: nothing else, always pontificating how she's gonna shake the system

1545
01:16:57,320 --> 01:17:00,360
Speaker 1: up while not doing her due diligence to prevent Trump

1546
01:17:00,400 --> 01:17:01,840
Speaker 1: from taking off. It's sort of like a lot of

1547
01:17:01,920 --> 01:17:04,439
Speaker 1: white leftists who take their ball and go home because

1548
01:17:04,479 --> 01:17:08,400
Speaker 1: their ponies weren't blessed with purity. Furthermore, like you said, Rod,

1549
01:17:08,560 --> 01:17:10,640
Speaker 1: and I've always thought this since last year. I just

1550
01:17:10,640 --> 01:17:13,160
Speaker 1: couldn't put it together until then. They are white in

1551
01:17:13,240 --> 01:17:15,960
Speaker 1: the white They are a white people's club. I've said

1552
01:17:16,040 --> 01:17:19,200
Speaker 1: my piece on the matter of many times, so I'm

1553
01:17:19,240 --> 01:17:21,280
Speaker 1: not gonna rehatch it here. Thought it was a cathartic

1554
01:17:21,360 --> 01:17:25,360
Speaker 1: moment enjoy your tweet weekends. Thanks, thank you. Yeah, man,

1555
01:17:25,400 --> 01:17:31,200
Speaker 1: I don't. I mean anecdotally, So this is not to

1556
01:17:31,280 --> 01:17:36,040
Speaker 1: say that that this is a one, but anecdotally, That's

1557
01:17:36,080 --> 01:17:38,920
Speaker 1: the thing I've definitely noticed is like black people that

1558
01:17:39,040 --> 01:17:43,280
Speaker 1: start hard for Bernie typically tend to be the black

1559
01:17:43,400 --> 01:17:47,160
Speaker 1: friend of a lot of black white people. And that's

1560
01:17:47,320 --> 01:17:51,120
Speaker 1: that's just a just a general thing I've noticed. You know,

1561
01:17:51,320 --> 01:17:53,160
Speaker 1: motherfuckers can be mad about that or not, but I

1562
01:17:53,280 --> 01:17:57,240
Speaker 1: really think that shit is cultural. Man, Like four white

1563
01:17:57,280 --> 01:18:00,080
Speaker 1: people burning for the Conor Coote good white people, the

1564
01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,679
Speaker 1: progressive white people. Bernie's like, they're kind of Trump dude,

1565
01:18:03,560 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 1: And there's a lot of money to be made by

1566
01:18:05,200 --> 01:18:08,519
Speaker 1: the way being the black person for Bernie. Yes, I

1567
01:18:08,640 --> 01:18:11,080
Speaker 1: know several people who have chosen that grift and done

1568
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:15,920
Speaker 1: well with it, you serve, And and they're still on

1569
01:18:16,080 --> 01:18:18,640
Speaker 1: that shit now even with Bernie not being around. They

1570
01:18:18,760 --> 01:18:21,720
Speaker 1: just moved the gold post to other shit. But and

1571
01:18:21,840 --> 01:18:24,479
Speaker 1: they love to be cited as the black person that

1572
01:18:24,560 --> 01:18:27,120
Speaker 1: believes all this shit. So that when black people who

1573
01:18:27,360 --> 01:18:30,839
Speaker 1: ninety eight percent vote Democrat but don't vote for Bernie

1574
01:18:31,360 --> 01:18:33,600
Speaker 1: or whatever the fuck you know, don't decide not to

1575
01:18:33,840 --> 01:18:37,240
Speaker 1: withhold their voting in the general election. They won't. They

1576
01:18:37,320 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: will let people use them against those black people, Like

1577
01:18:41,200 --> 01:18:44,120
Speaker 1: look at you, So, if what we're saying is fucked up,

1578
01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,920
Speaker 1: then how come so and so voted for it? And

1579
01:18:47,040 --> 01:18:49,479
Speaker 1: it's like, you know, how come so and so has

1580
01:18:49,520 --> 01:18:53,040
Speaker 1: a podcast? Like that's one black person. How about the

1581
01:18:53,400 --> 01:18:56,560
Speaker 1: litany of black people that vote Democrat and have podcasts

1582
01:18:56,640 --> 01:18:59,160
Speaker 1: and write things and do shit for them? What about that?

1583
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:02,240
Speaker 1: So they don't count because you got one, you got

1584
01:19:02,360 --> 01:19:05,439
Speaker 1: Killer Mike. So because you got Killer Mike, every other

1585
01:19:05,520 --> 01:19:09,200
Speaker 1: black person don't matter. Suck my dick. Like, it's just

1586
01:19:09,320 --> 01:19:11,639
Speaker 1: not that this is not that that's not true, right,

1587
01:19:12,560 --> 01:19:15,960
Speaker 1: but yeah, like and like I said, I if that's

1588
01:19:15,960 --> 01:19:17,360
Speaker 1: what you want to do, that's what you want to do.

1589
01:19:17,560 --> 01:19:21,680
Speaker 1: But it's tired, tired of it, you know what I'm saying,

1590
01:19:21,760 --> 01:19:24,960
Speaker 1: Nina Turner. This shit is tired, you know. And they

1591
01:19:25,080 --> 01:19:26,920
Speaker 1: gonna get tired of your ass too, and they're gonna

1592
01:19:27,240 --> 01:19:29,840
Speaker 1: use you up and disrespect you you too, the same

1593
01:19:29,880 --> 01:19:33,240
Speaker 1: way they do every fucking body else. It's not you've

1594
01:19:33,320 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: never really met a black person who was a I

1595
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:40,160
Speaker 1: don't want to say proud, because that's not the right word,

1596
01:19:40,240 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: but like, of what I would consider to be a

1597
01:19:43,200 --> 01:19:47,280
Speaker 1: full fledged Democrat, you're never gonna meet that black person.

1598
01:19:47,720 --> 01:19:50,120
Speaker 2: We don't really exist in that way.

1599
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:53,439
Speaker 1: We vote Democrat, we feel like that's the smartest thing

1600
01:19:53,520 --> 01:19:56,639
Speaker 1: to do it I vote, We're not necessarily on board,

1601
01:19:56,800 --> 01:20:00,360
Speaker 1: just like I just love being a Democrat. That's what

1602
01:20:00,439 --> 01:20:03,040
Speaker 1: it's all about. Not that we shouldn't feel that way.

1603
01:20:03,080 --> 01:20:04,960
Speaker 1: I would love to see black people that did feel

1604
01:20:05,000 --> 01:20:08,679
Speaker 1: that way, but I ain't at him, probably never will.

1605
01:20:08,880 --> 01:20:11,240
Speaker 1: Almost all black people kind of like, yeah, the right

1606
01:20:11,280 --> 01:20:19,320
Speaker 1: thing to do, bo Democrat. These only motherfuckers trying, trying, trying, yes, right,

1607
01:20:19,680 --> 01:20:23,880
Speaker 1: So it's just weird to see people like her talk

1608
01:20:23,920 --> 01:20:26,720
Speaker 1: all this shit about you know, Democrats talk all this

1609
01:20:26,800 --> 01:20:33,120
Speaker 1: shit about you know, the the the Biden, Hillary Clinton,

1610
01:20:33,280 --> 01:20:36,000
Speaker 1: all this shit, and they ain't gonna run a centrist campaign.

1611
01:20:36,120 --> 01:20:39,120
Speaker 1: That's weird. And if I can't point that out and

1612
01:20:39,439 --> 01:20:41,880
Speaker 1: people not understanding, that's something wrong with you, because that's

1613
01:20:42,000 --> 01:20:46,439
Speaker 1: pretty fucking obvious what she did. EV says need to

1614
01:20:46,439 --> 01:20:48,479
Speaker 1: turn that progressive like her or mad because they realize

1615
01:20:48,479 --> 01:20:51,840
Speaker 1: the Democratic Party doesn't need them. Mm hmm. They definitely

1616
01:20:51,920 --> 01:20:56,720
Speaker 1: wanted to trump this party. Yes, they definitely wanted to

1617
01:20:56,720 --> 01:20:59,800
Speaker 1: trump the Democratic Party. They thought Bernie could be that Trump.

1618
01:21:00,439 --> 01:21:03,160
Speaker 1: They could do what the Tea Party did to Republicans,

1619
01:21:03,280 --> 01:21:04,080
Speaker 1: and they would take it over.

1620
01:21:04,120 --> 01:21:06,240
Speaker 3: But we don't function like that. We're like, the fuck

1621
01:21:06,360 --> 01:21:06,880
Speaker 3: is this No?

1622
01:21:07,680 --> 01:21:09,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, the reason you can't do it is because we're

1623
01:21:09,880 --> 01:21:13,080
Speaker 1: not homogenous. The white people in the party would absolutely

1624
01:21:13,160 --> 01:21:16,400
Speaker 1: do that. They wouldn't have a problem at all. They

1625
01:21:16,520 --> 01:21:20,160
Speaker 1: love a fucking angry white man who blames all the

1626
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 1: problems on the economy and none of them on race

1627
01:21:23,160 --> 01:21:26,679
Speaker 1: or racism, and nothing's white people's fault. Bertie Sanders still

1628
01:21:26,720 --> 01:21:30,439
Speaker 1: thinks Trump voters are good people. He still thinks Middle

1629
01:21:30,479 --> 01:21:34,160
Speaker 1: America is good people as far as like the middle

1630
01:21:34,360 --> 01:21:37,160
Speaker 1: like that. It's just the economic anxiety that has them

1631
01:21:37,280 --> 01:21:39,840
Speaker 1: voting for racists and agreeing with racist and running up

1632
01:21:39,840 --> 01:21:43,080
Speaker 1: on the capitol. He thinks that. He thinks he, a

1633
01:21:43,240 --> 01:21:47,160
Speaker 1: Jewish man, is gonna apheal to these fucking all right

1634
01:21:47,280 --> 01:21:49,799
Speaker 1: type white people that hate Jews.

1635
01:21:50,360 --> 01:21:52,240
Speaker 2: He thinks that I don't.

1636
01:21:53,320 --> 01:21:53,759
Speaker 4: I don't.

1637
01:21:54,120 --> 01:21:57,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, So he thinks that shit, And so I think

1638
01:21:57,240 --> 01:22:01,280
Speaker 1: that's why you know a lot of white aggressives love him,

1639
01:22:01,439 --> 01:22:04,120
Speaker 1: is because they they he makes them feel good because

1640
01:22:04,120 --> 01:22:07,479
Speaker 1: they don't have to think about anything serious. They just go,

1641
01:22:07,640 --> 01:22:09,479
Speaker 1: if we change the kind and everything will be fine.

1642
01:22:09,600 --> 01:22:12,000
Speaker 1: Everybody will be good, and the rest of the shit

1643
01:22:12,000 --> 01:22:14,960
Speaker 1: will work itself out. And people like Biden and Hillary Clinton,

1644
01:22:15,280 --> 01:22:18,040
Speaker 1: because of how much they owe the black community, could

1645
01:22:18,200 --> 01:22:20,639
Speaker 1: not talk about it without bringing up like and we're

1646
01:22:20,680 --> 01:22:22,280
Speaker 1: gonna have to tackle this racism shit.

1647
01:22:23,160 --> 01:22:25,840
Speaker 2: They can't not talk about racist would have lost.

1648
01:22:26,160 --> 01:22:28,599
Speaker 1: And then when people do that, they start going white

1649
01:22:28,600 --> 01:22:30,520
Speaker 1: people always go, that's how identity politics.

1650
01:22:31,320 --> 01:22:33,720
Speaker 3: And it's funny how it's always identity when it's not

1651
01:22:33,760 --> 01:22:34,439
Speaker 3: about white shit.

1652
01:22:34,760 --> 01:22:38,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, And as soon as that phrase comes up, I'm like, okay,

1653
01:22:38,240 --> 01:22:39,840
Speaker 1: I know exactly what kind of white person you are.

1654
01:22:39,920 --> 01:22:40,559
Speaker 2: You just racist?

1655
01:22:40,600 --> 01:22:42,880
Speaker 1: But you don't you don't know you racist yet, but

1656
01:22:42,960 --> 01:22:45,880
Speaker 1: you just racist. And black people that hang out with

1657
01:22:45,960 --> 01:22:48,479
Speaker 1: them gotta tolerate that shit, Yes they do. You know

1658
01:22:48,479 --> 01:22:51,599
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, You gotta you gotta Yeah, identity politics.

1659
01:22:51,720 --> 01:22:55,280
Speaker 1: I'm with you on that, know, you not dummy, because

1660
01:22:55,280 --> 01:22:57,640
Speaker 1: if I sat you down and said what are identity politics?

1661
01:22:58,880 --> 01:23:00,720
Speaker 1: You know, and I said, now, how exactly are you

1662
01:23:00,800 --> 01:23:03,600
Speaker 1: not with identity politics as a black person, because you

1663
01:23:03,640 --> 01:23:05,920
Speaker 1: know what identity politics is for you as a black person,

1664
01:23:06,720 --> 01:23:09,120
Speaker 1: why you make less than a white dude for the

1665
01:23:09,200 --> 01:23:09,760
Speaker 1: same job.

1666
01:23:10,200 --> 01:23:14,439
Speaker 2: Is that identity for you? Is black lives matter and

1667
01:23:14,720 --> 01:23:15,680
Speaker 2: people getting killed by.

1668
01:23:15,640 --> 01:23:17,479
Speaker 1: The police in the streets? Is that identity for you?

1669
01:23:17,640 --> 01:23:20,960
Speaker 1: You feel either that you could take that or leave that?

1670
01:23:21,720 --> 01:23:25,920
Speaker 1: Or do you feel a way right? Abortion for women?

1671
01:23:26,080 --> 01:23:28,960
Speaker 1: Is that a pro choice for women? Choice for you

1672
01:23:29,040 --> 01:23:31,439
Speaker 1: over your body? Is that identity for you? Or is

1673
01:23:31,479 --> 01:23:37,160
Speaker 1: that something integral to how your economic situation will shake out? Right?

1674
01:23:37,560 --> 01:23:42,080
Speaker 1: Jelling me is not a identity problem. That's an economic

1675
01:23:42,200 --> 01:23:46,760
Speaker 1: problem as well. These aren't social causes. These causes are

1676
01:23:46,880 --> 01:23:51,960
Speaker 1: my economy. You know, the way that loan discrimination goes

1677
01:23:52,720 --> 01:23:57,880
Speaker 1: ways discrimination, like all of this stuff, housing discrimination, all

1678
01:23:57,960 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: of this stuff that people see as quote unquote identity

1679
01:24:01,320 --> 01:24:05,479
Speaker 1: is Black life is one women's life, it's gay people's lives.

1680
01:24:06,640 --> 01:24:10,120
Speaker 1: So no, I'm not gonna make you feel better because

1681
01:24:10,120 --> 01:24:13,040
Speaker 1: you're a quote unquote progressive white person who's willing to

1682
01:24:13,120 --> 01:24:16,080
Speaker 1: vote for Bernie, but will fucking let me fry if

1683
01:24:16,479 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: they If your man don't get in, then fuck me

1684
01:24:18,600 --> 01:24:19,519
Speaker 1: and fuck everybody else.

1685
01:24:19,640 --> 01:24:21,920
Speaker 2: Nah, dog, I'm not that kind of black person.

1686
01:24:22,360 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 3: But then I don't care what you got to say then, Uh,

1687
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:25,200
Speaker 3: that's why.

1688
01:24:25,200 --> 01:24:27,200
Speaker 1: Nina didn't run on the things she talked about on Twitter.

1689
01:24:27,280 --> 01:24:29,240
Speaker 1: Deep down she knows those white leftists have no real

1690
01:24:29,320 --> 01:24:33,280
Speaker 1: stakes in the game. Glass she lost. H yep, I

1691
01:24:33,439 --> 01:24:35,599
Speaker 1: just think she should have kept that same energy. If

1692
01:24:35,640 --> 01:24:37,479
Speaker 1: you was gonna lose anyway, at least you could have

1693
01:24:37,880 --> 01:24:38,960
Speaker 1: had everybody's respect.

1694
01:24:39,560 --> 01:24:41,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, kept that same integrity.

1695
01:24:41,320 --> 01:24:42,920
Speaker 1: She ran out there and said, fuck it. You know

1696
01:24:42,960 --> 01:24:46,800
Speaker 1: what I'm saying, Medicare for all, and I know, and

1697
01:24:46,920 --> 01:24:49,040
Speaker 1: fuck Joe Biden. He's a piece of shit. He's like

1698
01:24:49,160 --> 01:24:52,240
Speaker 1: eating a shit Salwach and fuck him in the Democrats.

1699
01:24:52,280 --> 01:24:55,360
Speaker 1: She should have ran on that and seen if you won. Uh,

1700
01:24:55,479 --> 01:24:58,320
Speaker 1: which way do you like your black Wait? Which way

1701
01:24:58,320 --> 01:25:03,080
Speaker 1: do you like the black capitalism segment, the new positive

1702
01:25:03,160 --> 01:25:05,400
Speaker 1: nice way or the old negative hating way.

1703
01:25:05,560 --> 01:25:08,640
Speaker 3: Karen, I like the positive nice way, but that's just me.

1704
01:25:08,840 --> 01:25:13,840
Speaker 1: Once again, Karen, you're the majority. Fifty six percent of

1705
01:25:13,880 --> 01:25:16,439
Speaker 1: y'all like the new positive nice way and forty four

1706
01:25:16,520 --> 01:25:18,920
Speaker 1: percent like the old negative hating way. It was a

1707
01:25:18,960 --> 01:25:21,760
Speaker 1: close pole, but it looks like the nice ways here

1708
01:25:21,800 --> 01:25:23,200
Speaker 1: to stay y'all just barely one.

1709
01:25:24,000 --> 01:25:26,360
Speaker 3: Because Ton says, I voted up for your votes matter.

1710
01:25:26,520 --> 01:25:28,040
Speaker 3: You should have been voting the pole people.

1711
01:25:29,080 --> 01:25:30,599
Speaker 2: I voted for the new positive way.

1712
01:25:30,760 --> 01:25:33,679
Speaker 1: However, if you could find hate Nasterrell Jones to deliver

1713
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Speaker 1: the news to my vote with changing the heartbeat. He says,

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Speaker 1: both ways are great, but I do chuckle when you

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:40,760
Speaker 1: do it the hate and Nash way because of the

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01:25:40,800 --> 01:25:43,040
Speaker 1: way you and Karen play off each other. You hate

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01:25:43,080 --> 01:25:45,240
Speaker 1: while she loves, and that's pretty hilarious. But it would

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01:25:45,240 --> 01:25:47,880
Speaker 1: be fun no matter which direction you take it. Lakita says,

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01:25:47,960 --> 01:25:49,600
Speaker 1: per the Pole, I like the way that makes you

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01:25:49,760 --> 01:25:53,479
Speaker 1: feel better. That makes a difference. I think the nice

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01:25:53,520 --> 01:25:56,200
Speaker 1: way makes me feel better. If we're being honest, you know,

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01:25:56,280 --> 01:25:58,400
Speaker 1: I don't like to hate on black people for no reason,

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01:25:59,680 --> 01:26:00,479
Speaker 1: even for fun.

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Speaker 5: That sucks.

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01:26:02,800 --> 01:26:04,760
Speaker 1: But uh, you know I would have been willing to

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01:26:04,880 --> 01:26:08,600
Speaker 1: go back though, because I like, I did kind of think, like,

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01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:11,679
Speaker 1: wait a minute, this is fun for everybody still. But yeah,

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01:26:11,800 --> 01:26:14,240
Speaker 1: it seems that's still fun, So let's keep it positive.

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Speaker 1: We got a couple of voicemails. Let's get into those.

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Speaker 2: Uh seventh, y'all.

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Speaker 8: Know, helloly two, it's Ali Gray. I am currently listening

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01:26:25,240 --> 01:26:29,240
Speaker 8: to your episode number twenty three eighty two. The Home

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01:26:29,320 --> 01:26:32,759
Speaker 8: of the Chappa and I just have a quick response

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01:26:32,800 --> 01:26:38,000
Speaker 8: because you guys are going into sorry, I live on

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01:26:38,080 --> 01:26:45,519
Speaker 8: a very busy street. You guys were going into, you know,

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01:26:46,200 --> 01:26:50,960
Speaker 8: Roger talking about how you know, people aren't really like

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01:26:51,160 --> 01:26:55,160
Speaker 8: inherently aren't willing to come together even though people, you

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01:26:55,240 --> 01:26:57,479
Speaker 8: know a lot of people are like, this isn't us,

1739
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:01,960
Speaker 8: you know, but it is. And one of the things

1740
01:27:02,040 --> 01:27:05,479
Speaker 8: that I continue to talk about just in my personal

1741
01:27:05,680 --> 01:27:11,000
Speaker 8: amongst my friends is if we were the type to

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01:27:11,560 --> 01:27:15,160
Speaker 8: come together and be a community, we never would have

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01:27:15,640 --> 01:27:18,960
Speaker 8: gotten to capitalism in the first place, right, Like we

1744
01:27:19,080 --> 01:27:23,280
Speaker 8: still would have been hunter gatherers. Our nature is someone

1745
01:27:23,400 --> 01:27:26,680
Speaker 8: is always going to want more, and that's how we

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01:27:26,880 --> 01:27:30,479
Speaker 8: progressed into where we are now from hunter gatherers. That's

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01:27:31,120 --> 01:27:33,880
Speaker 8: there's no facts that It's totally me just sitting and

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01:27:34,280 --> 01:27:36,760
Speaker 8: shooting the shit with friends and thinking about shit way

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01:27:36,800 --> 01:27:42,479
Speaker 8: too much. So that's my thought on it. I'd love

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01:27:42,560 --> 01:27:44,320
Speaker 8: to hear what you guys have to say about that.

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01:27:47,200 --> 01:27:50,479
Speaker 8: I always enjoyed listening to you guys and yeah, talk

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01:27:50,560 --> 01:27:50,920
Speaker 8: to Sin.

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01:27:54,880 --> 01:27:59,600
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, I don't know if capitalism would have come up,

1754
01:28:00,439 --> 01:28:04,600
Speaker 1: because I think capitalisms come this catch all for like

1755
01:28:05,000 --> 01:28:07,560
Speaker 1: what this out of control shit we have now? Is

1756
01:28:07,880 --> 01:28:12,680
Speaker 1: this late state shit? But so yeah, I don't know.

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01:28:12,800 --> 01:28:15,600
Speaker 1: I just feel like something will because there's countries that

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01:28:15,680 --> 01:28:18,800
Speaker 1: don't aren't capitalists, that still have like dictators that hoard

1759
01:28:18,880 --> 01:28:24,280
Speaker 1: wealth and resources that sell off like state owned assets

1760
01:28:24,439 --> 01:28:28,400
Speaker 1: to other countries and keep the money and what people

1761
01:28:28,439 --> 01:28:30,280
Speaker 1: would then turn around and be like, well that's a

1762
01:28:30,320 --> 01:28:33,200
Speaker 1: capitalist thing. It's like that just became a capital a

1763
01:28:33,320 --> 01:28:37,240
Speaker 1: catch off, or just someone did something bad for some greed.

1764
01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:40,120
Speaker 1: And I'm like, people are greedy on a level that

1765
01:28:40,320 --> 01:28:44,720
Speaker 1: is just fucked up before you get to something big, yes,

1766
01:28:45,560 --> 01:28:48,120
Speaker 1: And I just don't know what you do with that.

1767
01:28:49,040 --> 01:28:55,000
Speaker 1: Because greed is the thing that so many people worship as, oh,

1768
01:28:55,120 --> 01:28:57,200
Speaker 1: this is how we get ingenuity, this is how we

1769
01:28:57,280 --> 01:29:01,040
Speaker 1: get this. But I don't necessarily know that that is

1770
01:29:01,600 --> 01:29:04,920
Speaker 1: the I think because people worship it, it has to

1771
01:29:05,000 --> 01:29:07,960
Speaker 1: be the answer for them, like it has to be.

1772
01:29:08,200 --> 01:29:10,160
Speaker 1: We would have never got this if it wasn't for greed.

1773
01:29:10,200 --> 01:29:11,760
Speaker 1: And I'm like, I don't know. We've had a lot

1774
01:29:11,800 --> 01:29:15,120
Speaker 1: of shit that wasn't about greed necessarily that still was innovator.

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01:29:15,200 --> 01:29:16,799
Speaker 3: Yeah, because they think it fixes everything.

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01:29:17,160 --> 01:29:19,760
Speaker 1: Yeah, And then the other thing people say is desperation

1777
01:29:19,960 --> 01:29:22,360
Speaker 1: is a mother of invention, which is the opposite.

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01:29:22,840 --> 01:29:26,519
Speaker 2: So two things that we worship, at least in America

1779
01:29:26,560 --> 01:29:27,160
Speaker 2: and I guess.

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01:29:27,000 --> 01:29:31,480
Speaker 1: Probably a lot of places is peak greed in capitalism

1781
01:29:31,600 --> 01:29:33,880
Speaker 1: as this is what's gonna get an innovate for us us,

1782
01:29:34,600 --> 01:29:37,720
Speaker 1: and then peak poverty, which is desperation, which is this

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01:29:37,880 --> 01:29:39,880
Speaker 1: is what will innovate us. And I think that's why

1784
01:29:39,920 --> 01:29:42,040
Speaker 1: our society is so fucked up. I'm reading this book

1785
01:29:42,080 --> 01:29:46,880
Speaker 1: poorly misunderst poorly understood. It's about poverty in America, and

1786
01:29:46,960 --> 01:29:49,600
Speaker 1: it's just so good because it's just debunking myths with

1787
01:29:49,760 --> 01:29:53,360
Speaker 1: numbers and stats and figures, and it's stuff that most

1788
01:29:53,400 --> 01:29:56,080
Speaker 1: of us already know at this point or should know,

1789
01:29:56,920 --> 01:29:58,960
Speaker 1: but when you're reading it, it's just putting this coaching

1790
01:29:59,040 --> 01:30:03,879
Speaker 1: argument together here, life right, because we say shit.

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01:30:04,040 --> 01:30:06,680
Speaker 2: In this country and it's like it's a religious thing,

1792
01:30:06,960 --> 01:30:08,040
Speaker 2: not a truth thing.

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01:30:08,400 --> 01:30:12,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, So the numbers don't back up that rich people

1794
01:30:12,080 --> 01:30:14,800
Speaker 1: are out here inventing all the things that make the

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01:30:14,840 --> 01:30:18,280
Speaker 1: world better. And the numbers also don't back up that

1796
01:30:18,560 --> 01:30:20,720
Speaker 1: if you give someone welfare, they won't want to.

1797
01:30:20,720 --> 01:30:21,240
Speaker 3: Get a job.

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01:30:21,439 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 2: But that's our religion. Capitalism is our religion in that way.

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01:30:26,680 --> 01:30:29,280
Speaker 1: But like I said, capitalism to me is more of

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01:30:29,360 --> 01:30:34,360
Speaker 1: a catch all now for bad, greedy shit. It's not

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01:30:34,600 --> 01:30:39,639
Speaker 1: truly there's no place where people, I put it this way,

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01:30:39,840 --> 01:30:42,599
Speaker 1: in this country anyway. I can't imagine even the people

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01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:46,519
Speaker 1: that hate capitalism want a life where they create and

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01:30:46,600 --> 01:30:50,920
Speaker 1: put in work and labor and don't feel compensated in

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01:30:51,040 --> 01:30:53,840
Speaker 1: a way that is proportional to the work they put in.

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01:30:54,840 --> 01:30:57,760
Speaker 1: By which I mean, no one wants to just get

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01:30:57,920 --> 01:31:03,759
Speaker 1: the standard living check every month of here's two thousand

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01:31:03,800 --> 01:31:07,840
Speaker 1: dollars every month. Nobody has to do anything. Nobody there's

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01:31:07,880 --> 01:31:12,080
Speaker 1: no incentive for anything. There's no incentive for overtime, working better, harder,

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01:31:12,120 --> 01:31:15,280
Speaker 1: there's no incentive for artists to be better than other artists.

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01:31:15,400 --> 01:31:18,439
Speaker 2: Or everyone's getting the same check no matter what.

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01:31:19,640 --> 01:31:23,040
Speaker 1: It's kind of like a like a child's version of

1813
01:31:24,560 --> 01:31:27,000
Speaker 1: it's like a child's dream. It's like some smurf shit,

1814
01:31:27,680 --> 01:31:31,080
Speaker 1: and like that's not gonna happen, so you know, it's

1815
01:31:31,120 --> 01:31:33,519
Speaker 1: gonna always be people that's like I did more and

1816
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:36,639
Speaker 1: I want more, And it's like how do we balance

1817
01:31:36,720 --> 01:31:39,439
Speaker 1: that with I didn't do more, but I want it all?

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01:31:40,280 --> 01:31:42,639
Speaker 1: Because that's the part that makes people evil, and that's

1819
01:31:42,680 --> 01:31:45,400
Speaker 1: the part that drives a lot of the decision making

1820
01:31:45,520 --> 01:31:46,960
Speaker 1: is there's a lot of people that want it all.

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01:31:47,439 --> 01:31:49,479
Speaker 1: They want theirs and then they want yours and they

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01:31:49,520 --> 01:31:52,760
Speaker 1: want somebody else's. And it's not that they don't want

1823
01:31:52,800 --> 01:31:54,760
Speaker 1: you to have, but if it causes you not to have,

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01:31:54,920 --> 01:31:58,200
Speaker 1: they don't give a fuck. Right, And that impost starts

1825
01:31:58,280 --> 01:32:01,559
Speaker 1: an I hop you know what I'm saying that that imposte. Yeah,

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01:32:01,680 --> 01:32:04,760
Speaker 1: that impost doesn't start at the at the board at

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01:32:04,800 --> 01:32:07,720
Speaker 1: the boardroom of the CEOs, Like that's not always where

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01:32:07,720 --> 01:32:11,439
Speaker 1: it starts. Sometimes it starts at a very low place

1829
01:32:11,479 --> 01:32:15,080
Speaker 1: where people just get the point of the boogeyman of capitalism,

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01:32:15,240 --> 01:32:17,599
Speaker 1: like that's what made it happen. It's like, or that's

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01:32:17,640 --> 01:32:19,000
Speaker 1: a fucked up thing you did.

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01:32:19,360 --> 01:32:21,360
Speaker 3: Right, and you know, like you said when it started,

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01:32:21,400 --> 01:32:23,200
Speaker 3: I hop it does because some of the things I

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01:32:23,320 --> 01:32:26,040
Speaker 3: did when I worked that I hopped my coworkers. They

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01:32:26,320 --> 01:32:29,240
Speaker 3: was baffled and they couldn't understand. Like if I was

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01:32:29,400 --> 01:32:32,240
Speaker 3: busy and I had a table that I couldn't get to,

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01:32:32,760 --> 01:32:35,080
Speaker 3: I'd be like, uh, could you get that table? They

1838
01:32:35,160 --> 01:32:37,920
Speaker 3: say yeah, and they will get the table and some

1839
01:32:38,040 --> 01:32:39,760
Speaker 3: people would come back and they was like, well, did

1840
01:32:39,800 --> 01:32:41,400
Speaker 3: you want to swap I say no, I told you

1841
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:42,960
Speaker 3: to get that table. That's your table. I don't want

1842
01:32:43,000 --> 01:32:45,400
Speaker 3: the money, Like I couldn't get to them and me

1843
01:32:45,560 --> 01:32:48,480
Speaker 3: giving them bad service? Was it going to benefit anybody?

1844
01:32:48,920 --> 01:32:54,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think it's just hard for people to understand. Like, yeah,

1845
01:32:54,080 --> 01:32:55,320
Speaker 1: it's just hard for people to understand.

1846
01:32:55,400 --> 01:32:57,080
Speaker 2: Like one of the things that happens with just me

1847
01:32:57,120 --> 01:32:58,120
Speaker 2: and you around the house.

1848
01:32:58,760 --> 01:33:01,240
Speaker 1: If there's like we're eating food or something that we

1849
01:33:01,320 --> 01:33:03,640
Speaker 1: go out to eat, I'll say to you, hey, you

1850
01:33:03,680 --> 01:33:06,960
Speaker 1: want to buy my food. Try this, it's good. You

1851
01:33:07,160 --> 01:33:11,000
Speaker 1: immediately will stop you're eating your food, hand me your food.

1852
01:33:11,040 --> 01:33:13,280
Speaker 1: You won't even take the bite of mind yet you'll

1853
01:33:13,320 --> 01:33:16,840
Speaker 1: start handing me your food. I mean, and it's because

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01:33:16,840 --> 01:33:18,599
Speaker 1: you're a good person and you want me to experience

1855
01:33:18,640 --> 01:33:21,679
Speaker 1: what you're eating too. But I'm like, this isn't a contest,

1856
01:33:21,760 --> 01:33:24,160
Speaker 1: it's not a rush. There's not equivalent to's changed. I

1857
01:33:24,240 --> 01:33:27,320
Speaker 1: want you to have this experience right now because I'm

1858
01:33:27,439 --> 01:33:29,400
Speaker 1: enjoying and I would like you to enjoy it as well.

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01:33:29,880 --> 01:33:31,800
Speaker 1: If you want me to have some food, it's not

1860
01:33:32,000 --> 01:33:34,880
Speaker 1: about us, Like and now you owe me a bite.

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01:33:34,960 --> 01:33:40,040
Speaker 1: It's like, hey, experience this, but you're That type of

1862
01:33:40,560 --> 01:33:43,880
Speaker 1: mentality is existing good people. Good people are like and

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01:33:43,960 --> 01:33:46,040
Speaker 1: I think there's a lot of good people. But then

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01:33:46,080 --> 01:33:48,320
Speaker 1: there's some people that are like, I want your food.

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01:33:48,400 --> 01:33:51,519
Speaker 1: I want my food too. Yeah, don't don't ask me

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01:33:51,600 --> 01:33:53,519
Speaker 1: for a bite, of mind, I'm eating everything on my

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01:33:53,640 --> 01:33:55,840
Speaker 1: plate and I want some of your fries. Yes, And

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01:33:55,960 --> 01:33:59,960
Speaker 1: we call those people women exactly, I'll I'll just joke.

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01:34:00,080 --> 01:34:05,200
Speaker 1: Get everybody calm down, shut sign. We call those people

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01:34:05,360 --> 01:34:13,080
Speaker 1: girlfriends and they want to sleep on the whole bed regardless.

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01:34:13,760 --> 01:34:16,040
Speaker 3: Yeah, I'm not gonna lie. I do sleep on the

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01:34:16,040 --> 01:34:16,400
Speaker 3: whole bed.

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01:34:16,520 --> 01:34:19,960
Speaker 1: But my point being like I think, I think that

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01:34:20,120 --> 01:34:22,800
Speaker 1: greed ship is in people deeper than than whatever we

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01:34:22,920 --> 01:34:23,479
Speaker 1: want to call it.

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01:34:23,960 --> 01:34:26,320
Speaker 3: That's that's true. That's true that you people try to

1877
01:34:26,320 --> 01:34:27,759
Speaker 3: make excuses, but yeah.

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01:34:27,720 --> 01:34:29,320
Speaker 1: They're gonna put their cold feet on you in the

1879
01:34:29,360 --> 01:34:31,439
Speaker 1: middle of the night. That's what these people are about.

1880
01:34:32,000 --> 01:34:35,040
Speaker 2: And you need to understand that, yes, you do live

1881
01:34:35,080 --> 01:34:35,679
Speaker 2: in this world.

1882
01:34:36,360 --> 01:34:38,559
Speaker 3: I try to put the socks on every now and then.

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01:34:40,080 --> 01:34:43,720
Speaker 1: Why are you taking this some person? I didn't say

1884
01:34:43,760 --> 01:34:46,120
Speaker 1: your name, I didn't say you I don't know where why.

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01:34:46,040 --> 01:34:48,040
Speaker 3: You got that look? I know when the guns being

1886
01:34:48,080 --> 01:34:49,080
Speaker 3: poorted in my direction?

1887
01:34:49,600 --> 01:34:55,200
Speaker 1: Wow? All right, next werseman interesting y'all, welcome.

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Speaker 7: I have issues with even stuff on the website. It

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01:35:04,000 --> 01:35:07,120
Speaker 7: could just be me. But anyway to start this first

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Speaker 7: Monday in August, Fright wanted to issue in Karen all

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Speaker 1: answer it.

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Speaker 3: this week last week was like, hey, rod, I can't

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Speaker 3: you know the episode not coming up? Where is it?

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Speaker 3: And they hit Roger up. He was like, oh, I

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Speaker 3: know why I was not there and he posted it

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Speaker 1: which is a pretty big thing.

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Speaker 2: We have podcasts.

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Speaker 1: You should hit the published podcast button in order for

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Speaker 1: people to listen to the podcast.

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Speaker 3: But it took some people going hey with the podcast.

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Speaker 1: I wouldn't have known.

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Speaker 2: I wouldn't known time to do the next episode.

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Speaker 9: be killing these niggas out here, and uh, contrary the

1925
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Speaker 9: top of popular belief, it's your cors your hey man,

1926
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Speaker 9: I'm still rolling out this nigga talking about being his

1927
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Speaker 9: head to Ye.

1928
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Speaker 2: Thanks, mister Hilton.

1929
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Speaker 3: I do.

1930
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Speaker 2: I don't know why I think I'll think.

1931
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Speaker 1: I honestly think I might have to make a jack

1932
01:36:55,840 --> 01:36:58,320
Speaker 1: hard shirt because I mean, you just got to embrace

1933
01:36:59,520 --> 01:37:01,040
Speaker 1: a song. You just gotta embrace it.

1934
01:37:02,680 --> 01:37:03,080
Speaker 3: You know what?

1935
01:37:03,200 --> 01:37:05,240
Speaker 1: Am I fighting? She's never gonna get it right? No

1936
01:37:05,920 --> 01:37:09,880
Speaker 1: might as a college Jakars sound like a black linebacker

1937
01:37:09,960 --> 01:37:11,000
Speaker 1: from fucking.

1938
01:37:10,760 --> 01:37:17,080
Speaker 3: Look yes, Jacaris Jenkins, I think you.

1939
01:37:17,160 --> 01:37:19,439
Speaker 2: Cars just got drafted by the Hornets the other day.

1940
01:37:19,560 --> 01:37:24,360
Speaker 1: Yes, we had some emails John Wright saying good morning,

1941
01:37:24,600 --> 01:37:26,479
Speaker 1: Rod and Karen just wanted to write in to say

1942
01:37:26,560 --> 01:37:29,200
Speaker 1: I'm so so so happy that y'all are back on

1943
01:37:29,280 --> 01:37:32,360
Speaker 1: Apple podcasts and I can listen when driving again. Driving

1944
01:37:32,400 --> 01:37:35,720
Speaker 1: the mess of Los Angeles just isn't the same without you.

1945
01:37:36,120 --> 01:37:36,439
Speaker 1: Thank you.

1946
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Speaker 2: Be safe ab out that.

1947
01:37:38,439 --> 01:37:40,879
Speaker 1: On the topic of calling your elected official, my experience

1948
01:37:40,920 --> 01:37:44,240
Speaker 1: has been that they do work with the right officials.

1949
01:37:43,800 --> 01:37:46,599
Speaker 2: Sometimes them call them.

1950
01:37:46,720 --> 01:37:50,439
Speaker 1: Calls to the Democrat, calls to Republican officials are pretty

1951
01:37:50,479 --> 01:37:53,320
Speaker 1: much a waste of time. Oh I know, I figured

1952
01:37:54,080 --> 01:37:57,360
Speaker 1: like it's like I said, it's not that it's impossible,

1953
01:37:57,400 --> 01:38:00,120
Speaker 1: it's just the mister Smith goes to wash it and

1954
01:38:00,240 --> 01:38:02,360
Speaker 1: shit that these motherfuckers be saying on Twitter. It's no

1955
01:38:02,520 --> 01:38:05,800
Speaker 1: way that works. We need to call jot Managine. I'm

1956
01:38:05,840 --> 01:38:09,120
Speaker 1: like that nigga is never coming around. We gotta find

1957
01:38:09,160 --> 01:38:13,839
Speaker 1: another way, Like, especially when it's from people that typically

1958
01:38:13,920 --> 01:38:17,080
Speaker 1: don't believe in voting and shit, because now you're passing

1959
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:21,439
Speaker 1: around a potential potential the petition telling me to fucking

1960
01:38:21,520 --> 01:38:24,240
Speaker 1: call somebody, but you wouldn't take your ass out the

1961
01:38:24,240 --> 01:38:27,720
Speaker 1: House to vote nigga, What are we even speaking the

1962
01:38:27,720 --> 01:38:29,720
Speaker 1: same language? What are you talking about? One of these

1963
01:38:30,280 --> 01:38:32,720
Speaker 1: is way more effective. You ain't got worried about a

1964
01:38:32,760 --> 01:38:34,400
Speaker 1: phone call. You elect the right motherfucker.

1965
01:38:34,439 --> 01:38:35,519
Speaker 2: You like, I don't not call him.

1966
01:38:35,520 --> 01:38:38,360
Speaker 1: I know how you voting? You know what I mean?

1967
01:38:38,479 --> 01:38:40,519
Speaker 1: We got one in North Carolina, our governor. I'm like,

1968
01:38:40,640 --> 01:38:43,880
Speaker 1: I don't be worried about him at all. You know

1969
01:38:43,880 --> 01:38:44,240
Speaker 1: what I mean?

1970
01:38:44,280 --> 01:38:47,240
Speaker 3: We could get some shit done if people had to

1971
01:38:47,360 --> 01:38:49,840
Speaker 3: put them Republicans in the House, in the Senate, we

1972
01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,519
Speaker 3: can actually do some shit in North Carolina.

1973
01:38:51,760 --> 01:38:54,400
Speaker 1: Yeah, Like, it's some motherfuckers. You ain't gotta worry about

1974
01:38:54,680 --> 01:38:58,519
Speaker 1: some Put it this way, if you call them, I

1975
01:38:58,560 --> 01:39:00,880
Speaker 1: hope you also are getting your ass us out to vote.

1976
01:39:01,760 --> 01:39:03,439
Speaker 2: I hope you not just doing one of the other.

1977
01:39:03,600 --> 01:39:05,479
Speaker 2: I really hope you you either.

1978
01:39:05,920 --> 01:39:08,240
Speaker 1: If you can do only one vote, if you're gonna

1979
01:39:08,280 --> 01:39:10,400
Speaker 1: call them, and if you're gonna call them, you better

1980
01:39:10,439 --> 01:39:13,000
Speaker 1: be calling and voting. Don't be shitting on voting and

1981
01:39:13,120 --> 01:39:15,160
Speaker 1: then talking about I'm gonna call this nigga fuck out

1982
01:39:15,200 --> 01:39:15,679
Speaker 1: of my face.

1983
01:39:16,840 --> 01:39:18,080
Speaker 2: Uh, No amount of calls are.

1984
01:39:17,960 --> 01:39:20,040
Speaker 1: Gonna make Lindsey Graham Mitch mc connot be anything less

1985
01:39:20,080 --> 01:39:21,280
Speaker 1: than complete pieces of shit that they are.

1986
01:39:21,400 --> 01:39:23,840
Speaker 2: But calls to your on dems do work a lot

1987
01:39:23,920 --> 01:39:24,240
Speaker 2: of the time.

1988
01:39:24,280 --> 01:39:27,240
Speaker 1: If your official is in a somewhat purple district, doesn't

1989
01:39:27,240 --> 01:39:29,280
Speaker 1: already have a strong position on the issue, and doesn't

1990
01:39:29,280 --> 01:39:32,519
Speaker 1: have a douchey ego driven personality cough cough mantioned the Cinema,

1991
01:39:32,920 --> 01:39:35,360
Speaker 1: then calls absolutely help push our elected officials to the

1992
01:39:35,439 --> 01:39:38,280
Speaker 1: left and help keep them from getting cold feed on

1993
01:39:38,360 --> 01:39:41,000
Speaker 1: big votes when we need every DEM. The votes to

1994
01:39:41,040 --> 01:39:43,439
Speaker 1: protect the ACA and the first impeachment vote are some

1995
01:39:43,479 --> 01:39:47,200
Speaker 1: perfect examples. Yes, but let me pushed back slightly on this,

1996
01:39:47,360 --> 01:39:49,400
Speaker 1: and this is what I'm trying to say. By that

1997
01:39:49,560 --> 01:39:53,479
Speaker 1: time people are circulating the stuff online like call this person,

1998
01:39:53,600 --> 01:39:57,000
Speaker 1: call this senator. Those are typically the people that are

1999
01:39:57,200 --> 01:40:00,960
Speaker 1: not coming around. They've stated there they either Joe mentioned

2000
01:40:01,080 --> 01:40:03,720
Speaker 1: or their Princess Cinema or some other such person that

2001
01:40:03,840 --> 01:40:06,840
Speaker 1: stated their intentions. They know all the opposition to it,

2002
01:40:07,000 --> 01:40:08,960
Speaker 1: they know it's not popular, and they're just like, I'm

2003
01:40:09,040 --> 01:40:11,599
Speaker 1: not doing it. And then people go, well, we'll pressure

2004
01:40:11,600 --> 01:40:13,840
Speaker 1: them via social media and we'll tell people to call

2005
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:17,360
Speaker 1: and them like, we're gonna need something stronger for these people.

2006
01:40:18,800 --> 01:40:20,719
Speaker 1: Every time we pass something to crucial on the party

2007
01:40:20,800 --> 01:40:23,160
Speaker 1: line vote, you can pretty much guarantee that we handful

2008
01:40:23,280 --> 01:40:25,639
Speaker 1: or even a dozen Dems who got tons of calls

2009
01:40:25,680 --> 01:40:27,519
Speaker 1: to give them enough courage to go along and calling

2010
01:40:27,560 --> 01:40:29,679
Speaker 1: you them elected official also can make a huge difference

2011
01:40:29,680 --> 01:40:32,960
Speaker 1: at the city, county, state levels, where much of the time,

2012
01:40:33,720 --> 01:40:35,920
Speaker 1: much of the time, your electives don't have really strong

2013
01:40:35,960 --> 01:40:38,519
Speaker 1: feelings either way about the countless bills of proposal to

2014
01:40:38,600 --> 01:40:40,840
Speaker 1: sy what's that I agree with that that's just never

2015
01:40:40,920 --> 01:40:43,200
Speaker 1: what you see on Twitter. So I think that's what

2016
01:40:43,280 --> 01:40:45,840
Speaker 1: we're having to disconnect. I'm specifically talking about a certain

2017
01:40:45,880 --> 01:40:51,320
Speaker 1: type of like last ditch, desperate, last effort thing, as

2018
01:40:51,360 --> 01:40:56,880
Speaker 1: opposed to like, if I want my local council person

2019
01:40:57,520 --> 01:41:03,760
Speaker 1: to vote no for for if I want them to

2020
01:41:03,840 --> 01:41:07,519
Speaker 1: vote no one having school in person, that's different than

2021
01:41:07,560 --> 01:41:09,799
Speaker 1: me because I think that does make a ton of difference,

2022
01:41:10,240 --> 01:41:13,880
Speaker 1: because they that's literally you, hey, I live on Seventh Street.

2023
01:41:13,960 --> 01:41:17,200
Speaker 1: That's like you know what I'm saying. That's different as

2024
01:41:17,240 --> 01:41:21,880
Speaker 1: opposed to like, let me call you know whoever and.

2025
01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,599
Speaker 2: They'll just be like, you know, I expect Mick Romney

2026
01:41:24,640 --> 01:41:25,000
Speaker 2: to listen it.

2027
01:41:25,080 --> 01:41:27,160
Speaker 1: He's not gonna listen, it's not gonna be because of

2028
01:41:27,160 --> 01:41:30,439
Speaker 1: those fucking phone calls anyway. At that level, many elect

2029
01:41:30,479 --> 01:41:32,720
Speaker 1: officials use call talies to tell them which way the

2030
01:41:32,760 --> 01:41:34,880
Speaker 1: political win is blowing, whether or not that voters will

2031
01:41:34,880 --> 01:41:36,800
Speaker 1: have their backs in the next election. All that said,

2032
01:41:37,120 --> 01:41:39,360
Speaker 1: calls the elected officials are no silver bullet solution, and

2033
01:41:39,439 --> 01:41:42,160
Speaker 1: sometimes you get officials who are oblivious, stubborn, a contrarian.

2034
01:41:42,479 --> 01:41:44,000
Speaker 1: You're right that at the end of the day, it's

2035
01:41:44,000 --> 01:41:46,040
Speaker 1: all about voting in the right people. But calling our

2036
01:41:46,080 --> 01:41:48,680
Speaker 1: elected officials, how we pushed them to continue being the

2037
01:41:48,760 --> 01:41:51,479
Speaker 1: right people once they're in office. Yeah, totally can agree

2038
01:41:51,520 --> 01:41:53,960
Speaker 1: with that. Totally. I mean, it's like the thing I

2039
01:41:54,040 --> 01:41:56,240
Speaker 1: said about Biden, and it's coming to true, and you're

2040
01:41:56,280 --> 01:41:59,280
Speaker 1: not seeing a lot of people admit it because no

2041
01:41:59,320 --> 01:42:01,439
Speaker 1: one wants to look like they support this white man.

2042
01:42:01,520 --> 01:42:01,960
Speaker 3: I get it.

2043
01:42:02,080 --> 01:42:05,760
Speaker 1: But Joe Biden's been pushed left left, left, left left

2044
01:42:05,880 --> 01:42:08,160
Speaker 1: since he's been in office. He has it's exactly what

2045
01:42:08,280 --> 01:42:11,880
Speaker 1: the fuck everybody said, what happened that was? You know, uh,

2046
01:42:12,520 --> 01:42:13,120
Speaker 1: right minded?

2047
01:42:13,680 --> 01:42:15,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, yes, he has to have the wheel power to

2048
01:42:15,720 --> 01:42:17,679
Speaker 3: push him. If you push him, he'll.

2049
01:42:17,560 --> 01:42:20,720
Speaker 1: Go Yeah, I mean, just does just exempt at the

2050
01:42:20,760 --> 01:42:23,840
Speaker 1: example like, uh, he started here and now he's doing this,

2051
01:42:24,160 --> 01:42:26,880
Speaker 1: and it's like, no, he's not all the way, but

2052
01:42:26,960 --> 01:42:31,240
Speaker 1: the fact you can push him is huge. A lot

2053
01:42:31,280 --> 01:42:33,920
Speaker 1: of organizers and activists called push the calls working at

2054
01:42:33,960 --> 01:42:36,280
Speaker 1: it for that reason, and because of twenty sixteen, we

2055
01:42:36,400 --> 01:42:38,559
Speaker 1: discovered this was an area where our side had really

2056
01:42:38,600 --> 01:42:41,200
Speaker 1: been lacking compared to Republicans. So we really lean into

2057
01:42:41,200 --> 01:42:43,639
Speaker 1: the aspect of civil engagement in twenty seventeen. Ever since

2058
01:42:43,680 --> 01:42:46,360
Speaker 1: it's our great results, it's a muscle that outside has

2059
01:42:46,439 --> 01:42:48,320
Speaker 1: to use in a bigger fight in addition to voting.

2060
01:42:48,400 --> 01:42:50,280
Speaker 1: That said, I'll never be mad at any dem who

2061
01:42:50,320 --> 01:42:53,400
Speaker 1: doesn't waste their time calling the net job Republican officials.

2062
01:42:53,400 --> 01:42:56,920
Speaker 1: I don't do that either anyways in the serving. Yeah,

2063
01:42:57,000 --> 01:42:59,400
Speaker 1: I feel you on that, man, And I think people

2064
01:42:59,720 --> 01:43:02,960
Speaker 1: that our believers are the ones who work in that industry.

2065
01:43:03,000 --> 01:43:06,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sure a lot of that mister Smith goes

2066
01:43:06,320 --> 01:43:09,200
Speaker 1: to Washington, shit really resonates with them. It's never gonna

2067
01:43:09,240 --> 01:43:11,240
Speaker 1: resonate with me in that type of way. I don't

2068
01:43:11,240 --> 01:43:11,960
Speaker 1: think I am man.

2069
01:43:12,080 --> 01:43:12,360
Speaker 4: I just.

2070
01:43:13,920 --> 01:43:16,360
Speaker 1: Uh, you know, just being in this country, looking at

2071
01:43:16,360 --> 01:43:18,080
Speaker 1: the history of this country, it's hard for me to

2072
01:43:18,160 --> 01:43:21,160
Speaker 1: believe that these motherfuckers just like I mean, I would

2073
01:43:21,200 --> 01:43:25,080
Speaker 1: have been against slavery. I didn't get enough calls like, Okay, nigga,

2074
01:43:25,439 --> 01:43:28,840
Speaker 1: I don't believe you le all farns o ribero videos wild,

2075
01:43:28,920 --> 01:43:30,960
Speaker 1: especially because you can probably count on one hand the

2076
01:43:31,080 --> 01:43:33,280
Speaker 1: number of attractive women that go to pan Terra shows.

2077
01:43:33,680 --> 01:43:34,080
Speaker 1: Trust me.

2078
01:43:34,360 --> 01:43:36,439
Speaker 2: Okay, So I was wrong. It turns out it was

2079
01:43:36,800 --> 01:43:38,160
Speaker 2: still Panther or some shit.

2080
01:43:39,960 --> 01:43:41,920
Speaker 1: I thought it looked like pat Terror than me. But

2081
01:43:42,040 --> 01:43:45,719
Speaker 1: it's something Panther, which is still another play band I've never.

2082
01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:48,920
Speaker 3: I've never heard of, no offense to them. They might

2083
01:43:48,960 --> 01:43:49,840
Speaker 3: be good, but I've never heard.

2084
01:43:49,920 --> 01:43:51,719
Speaker 1: Also, pet Terror is a band that has a history

2085
01:43:51,720 --> 01:43:53,560
Speaker 1: of racism, and the lead singer is even given a

2086
01:43:53,640 --> 01:43:55,840
Speaker 1: not just saluting twenty sixteen. Oh no, they claiming that

2087
01:43:55,920 --> 01:43:58,120
Speaker 1: rappers were pissing all over white culture back in the day.

2088
01:43:58,160 --> 01:44:00,800
Speaker 1: That said Calton video audio is hilariy. I love to

2089
01:44:00,800 --> 01:44:02,799
Speaker 1: see them do that on the show with Michael Steele.

2090
01:44:04,320 --> 01:44:09,320
Speaker 1: Yeah this some of a bit, but yeah, yeah, my bad.

2091
01:44:09,520 --> 01:44:13,400
Speaker 1: It's still Panther or something, which I don't know they

2092
01:44:13,439 --> 01:44:16,280
Speaker 1: could be racist to. I don't follow any of these people.

2093
01:44:16,840 --> 01:44:20,040
Speaker 3: I don't know her come on, I don't don't, I

2094
01:44:20,080 --> 01:44:20,519
Speaker 3: don't know her.

2095
01:44:20,840 --> 01:44:24,560
Speaker 1: Tiffany says, Hey, Karen and Rod working at listening to

2096
01:44:24,680 --> 01:44:26,720
Speaker 1: episode twenty three seventy nine, and I've been wanting to

2097
01:44:26,760 --> 01:44:28,800
Speaker 1: write in for weeks, but work kept getting in the way.

2098
01:44:29,120 --> 01:44:30,880
Speaker 1: I've been blessed throughout the pandemic to be able to

2099
01:44:30,920 --> 01:44:32,800
Speaker 1: work from home. My company as a believer in science,

2100
01:44:32,840 --> 01:44:36,200
Speaker 1: so they haven't been worrying us about returning to the offices.

2101
01:44:36,240 --> 01:44:38,600
Speaker 1: Once the vaccine was available, they occourage us to get it,

2102
01:44:39,000 --> 01:44:41,559
Speaker 1: even had to drive through vaccine pop up at our downtown.

2103
01:44:41,640 --> 01:44:44,880
Speaker 1: Officers try to get folks to come and get vaccinated. Yearly,

2104
01:44:45,360 --> 01:44:48,680
Speaker 1: they send out surveys asking us how they're doing and

2105
01:44:48,800 --> 01:44:50,360
Speaker 1: what they can do to make things better, et cetera,

2106
01:44:50,360 --> 01:44:52,240
Speaker 1: et cetera. The start of this year was no different,

2107
01:44:52,320 --> 01:44:55,320
Speaker 1: only this time they used our results to adapt to

2108
01:44:55,360 --> 01:44:58,280
Speaker 1: a hybrid schedule that will implement once they deem it

2109
01:44:58,400 --> 01:44:59,960
Speaker 1: safe for us to return to the office.

2110
01:45:00,120 --> 01:45:02,479
Speaker 3: Yeah, they actually pay attention, and it's like, Okay, this

2111
01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,800
Speaker 3: is what most people want. Most people don't wanting to

2112
01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:06,720
Speaker 3: do hybrid. You have some people that's like fuck it,

2113
01:45:06,800 --> 01:45:10,320
Speaker 3: I'll stay at home forever, But most people working from home,

2114
01:45:11,240 --> 01:45:14,120
Speaker 3: are like, if we could do hybrid, I'm down with that,

2115
01:45:14,400 --> 01:45:16,800
Speaker 3: but just for a lot of people coming in every day,

2116
01:45:17,240 --> 01:45:20,320
Speaker 3: it's too much. Be it the commute, be it the coworkers,

2117
01:45:20,479 --> 01:45:23,679
Speaker 3: be it these various different things. The people that push

2118
01:45:23,840 --> 01:45:26,919
Speaker 3: back a lot of times be upper management, the managers

2119
01:45:26,960 --> 01:45:28,840
Speaker 3: and shit like that, because for them, they have to

2120
01:45:29,760 --> 01:45:32,680
Speaker 3: work around these flex schedules with people being here on

2121
01:45:32,800 --> 01:45:34,880
Speaker 3: some days and being not being here in other days.

2122
01:45:35,160 --> 01:45:37,280
Speaker 3: So a lot of times what they implement is everybody's

2123
01:45:37,320 --> 01:45:39,600
Speaker 3: heroes certain days, everybody's going on certain days, like we

2124
01:45:39,680 --> 01:45:42,240
Speaker 3: all have the same days here and gone, So that

2125
01:45:42,400 --> 01:45:45,759
Speaker 3: simplifies it for a lot of managers and supervisors. And honestly,

2126
01:45:46,160 --> 01:45:49,839
Speaker 3: this right here is actually challenging managers of supervisors skills,

2127
01:45:50,320 --> 01:45:52,000
Speaker 3: you know, because if you are good at your job,

2128
01:45:52,120 --> 01:45:54,679
Speaker 3: and you trust your team and you've done your things,

2129
01:45:54,960 --> 01:45:56,439
Speaker 3: you're not going to really have a problem. But you

2130
01:45:56,560 --> 01:45:59,200
Speaker 3: have a lot of managers who like to not go

2131
01:45:59,240 --> 01:46:01,639
Speaker 3: on manage. A lot of managers they feel like kind

2132
01:46:01,680 --> 01:46:04,280
Speaker 3: of old school. Particularly a lot of upper management feel

2133
01:46:04,320 --> 01:46:06,960
Speaker 3: like if I don't see you, you're not working, which

2134
01:46:07,040 --> 01:46:09,559
Speaker 3: is not always true because most jobs have some form

2135
01:46:09,640 --> 01:46:12,439
Speaker 3: of monitoring that they could do. They have some form

2136
01:46:12,479 --> 01:46:15,479
Speaker 3: of metrics or production or some shit like that to

2137
01:46:15,560 --> 01:46:18,240
Speaker 3: see what you're doing. I take and longer you're computing anytime,

2138
01:46:18,280 --> 01:46:20,439
Speaker 3: and see if you're fucking working. If push comes to serve,

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01:46:20,800 --> 01:46:22,960
Speaker 3: they just prefer to have people in the office, and

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01:46:23,000 --> 01:46:24,559
Speaker 3: a lot of them wonder why they get pushed back

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01:46:24,600 --> 01:46:26,640
Speaker 3: from certain people because a lot of people that look,

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01:46:26,720 --> 01:46:29,000
Speaker 3: I'm saving money and gas, I'm saving money and food.

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01:46:29,080 --> 01:46:30,720
Speaker 3: I come in there every now and then, but I

2144
01:46:30,800 --> 01:46:32,880
Speaker 3: can't take no three hour commute to work every day.

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01:46:32,920 --> 01:46:34,920
Speaker 3: I can't sit in traffic three hours every day. Y'all

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01:46:34,960 --> 01:46:36,800
Speaker 3: are killing me with this. A lot of people have

2147
01:46:36,960 --> 01:46:39,720
Speaker 3: realized how much money they have saved, a lot of

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01:46:39,720 --> 01:46:42,320
Speaker 3: people have gotten their time back, and that's very crucial.

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Speaker 3: That's why when you read the article about people taking

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01:46:44,360 --> 01:46:46,360
Speaker 3: pay of people. I got my mother fucking time back.

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01:46:46,600 --> 01:46:48,760
Speaker 3: I spend time with my kids, I can clean up

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01:46:48,800 --> 01:46:51,400
Speaker 3: the house, I can work out, exercise, be whatever. These

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01:46:51,479 --> 01:46:53,639
Speaker 3: things is all of a sudden, you have this time.

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01:46:54,120 --> 01:46:57,080
Speaker 3: You do have some people that are actually they're dedicating

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01:46:57,160 --> 01:46:59,200
Speaker 3: more time to work. Don't get me wrong, but you

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01:46:59,320 --> 01:47:02,360
Speaker 3: do have a more people going. I have this time

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01:47:02,479 --> 01:47:06,240
Speaker 3: that I didn't realize that I spent you know, twenty

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01:47:06,320 --> 01:47:08,120
Speaker 3: hours a week back and forth to work, or ten

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01:47:08,200 --> 01:47:10,240
Speaker 3: hours a week, which is actually a lot of time,

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01:47:10,640 --> 01:47:13,439
Speaker 3: and so jobs they just can't understand. They were like, oh,

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01:47:13,479 --> 01:47:15,400
Speaker 3: everybody want to come back and get in this hustle

2162
01:47:15,400 --> 01:47:17,439
Speaker 3: and bust of routine. People like, no, bitch, I can

2163
01:47:17,479 --> 01:47:19,840
Speaker 3: actually walk two feet and go on refrigerator. I don't

2164
01:47:19,880 --> 01:47:21,639
Speaker 3: have to worry about if I forget my lunch. Shit

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01:47:21,760 --> 01:47:23,160
Speaker 3: now I got to go buy lunch and all this

2166
01:47:23,280 --> 01:47:25,040
Speaker 3: other bullshit like I don't have to worry about that,

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01:47:25,320 --> 01:47:28,479
Speaker 3: And particularly if you have smaller children that are home,

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01:47:28,680 --> 01:47:31,560
Speaker 3: that are are homeschooling, and people going I don't know

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01:47:31,640 --> 01:47:33,120
Speaker 3: what the school's going to do. And for a lot

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01:47:33,160 --> 01:47:36,160
Speaker 3: of parents, if your child gets sick, I'm already at home,

2171
01:47:36,640 --> 01:47:39,519
Speaker 3: so there's no inconvenience for me to have to, you know,

2172
01:47:39,880 --> 01:47:42,439
Speaker 3: take them to the day care, find somebody to watch them. Like,

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01:47:42,560 --> 01:47:46,320
Speaker 3: it's a lot of conveniences for the employees, and companies

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01:47:46,360 --> 01:47:49,240
Speaker 3: that care will actually do a hybrid type of thing.

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01:47:49,720 --> 01:47:53,240
Speaker 3: Companies that actually don't you know, you do have a

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01:47:53,360 --> 01:47:55,280
Speaker 3: percentage of people that I'm like, I will leave this

2177
01:47:55,400 --> 01:47:58,360
Speaker 3: bitch and quit because now you're inconveniencing a lifestyle that

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01:47:58,439 --> 01:47:59,760
Speaker 3: I actually like and enjoy. Now.

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Speaker 1: During all of this, I changed rolls for the company

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01:48:03,680 --> 01:48:05,560
Speaker 1: and I'm intally different group and haven't been able to

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01:48:05,600 --> 01:48:08,120
Speaker 1: meet any of my new colleagues in person. I've been

2182
01:48:08,160 --> 01:48:11,120
Speaker 1: able to talk with them all the time on teams

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01:48:11,160 --> 01:48:13,360
Speaker 1: and even had a virtual happy hour with them. I

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01:48:13,479 --> 01:48:16,160
Speaker 1: love my company, but it all, but it, like all others,

2185
01:48:16,240 --> 01:48:18,200
Speaker 1: needs more diversity. So of course I was excited to

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01:48:18,240 --> 01:48:20,679
Speaker 1: see another black face in my group, and we would

2187
01:48:20,720 --> 01:48:23,160
Speaker 1: speak daily about working some personal stuff. I have been

2188
01:48:23,240 --> 01:48:25,799
Speaker 1: looking forward to returning to work to make these connections

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01:48:25,840 --> 01:48:29,120
Speaker 1: with these colleagues, and especially with the black lady who I.

2190
01:48:29,120 --> 01:48:30,000
Speaker 2: Talked to all the time.

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01:48:30,479 --> 01:48:32,599
Speaker 1: She wasn't too thrilled about going back into the office,

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01:48:32,600 --> 01:48:34,280
Speaker 1: and I thought it was because of the comfort of

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01:48:34,400 --> 01:48:37,280
Speaker 1: being home or something of that nature. All of that

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01:48:37,360 --> 01:48:39,120
Speaker 1: shit changed when we were having a conbo and she

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01:48:39,240 --> 01:48:41,920
Speaker 1: mentioned attending the webinar at the VP and she was

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01:48:42,040 --> 01:48:44,400
Speaker 1: upset that he was encouraging people to get vaccinated.

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01:48:44,680 --> 01:48:49,400
Speaker 3: Oh, oh, you thought you had a friend. I'm sorry

2198
01:48:49,439 --> 01:48:55,040
Speaker 3: for your loss, irip to that friendship. I am so

2199
01:48:55,280 --> 01:49:01,600
Speaker 3: sorry for your loss. Oh no, nothing guess how they

2200
01:49:01,720 --> 01:49:03,960
Speaker 3: get you. You'd be like, oh damn, I thought you

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01:49:04,160 --> 01:49:04,680
Speaker 3: was a good one.

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01:49:04,800 --> 01:49:06,360
Speaker 1: That's what she was saying when he said we need

2203
01:49:06,400 --> 01:49:09,080
Speaker 1: everybody to get the vaccine, not today.

2204
01:49:11,520 --> 01:49:13,320
Speaker 3: I was like something I said that twist had a plot.

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01:49:13,400 --> 01:49:13,719
Speaker 1: Twist.

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01:49:14,920 --> 01:49:17,559
Speaker 2: Oh man, you thought you had a friend.

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01:49:19,080 --> 01:49:21,559
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, girl, can't wait. You know I'm vaccinating. You're

2208
01:49:21,560 --> 01:49:22,439
Speaker 1: gonna get vaccinated?

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Speaker 7: Please?

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01:49:24,240 --> 01:49:26,400
Speaker 3: Yes, stay hit with that m m.

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01:49:27,880 --> 01:49:28,519
Speaker 4: Oh man.

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01:49:28,600 --> 01:49:34,880
Speaker 1: That's so sad. It's like I heard Karen's oh no

2213
01:49:35,439 --> 01:49:37,040
Speaker 1: go off of my head right.

2214
01:49:37,200 --> 01:49:38,000
Speaker 3: That's how I felt.

2215
01:49:38,040 --> 01:49:41,360
Speaker 1: Oh no. I was completely caught off guard and never

2216
01:49:41,439 --> 01:49:44,240
Speaker 1: would have guessed that they were that she was stupid.

2217
01:49:44,600 --> 01:49:46,080
Speaker 2: She started talking about.

2218
01:49:45,840 --> 01:49:48,360
Speaker 1: How they her family had done their own research and

2219
01:49:48,400 --> 01:49:50,880
Speaker 1: they weren't getting the shot. The nail in the conference

2220
01:49:50,960 --> 01:49:52,760
Speaker 1: was when she parted her list and said the shot

2221
01:49:52,920 --> 01:49:57,400
Speaker 1: was the market beast. I told that Wench, not Winch.

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01:49:58,080 --> 01:50:00,840
Speaker 1: I'm going I'm getting another call. I got let you go.

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01:50:01,080 --> 01:50:03,320
Speaker 2: She doesn't want to go back into the office because

2224
01:50:03,320 --> 01:50:04,040
Speaker 2: she doesn't.

2225
01:50:03,760 --> 01:50:05,800
Speaker 1: Want to get vaccinated, but being to Florida for a

2226
01:50:05,920 --> 01:50:08,880
Speaker 1: dance competition for her daughter recently, she was sick and

2227
01:50:09,000 --> 01:50:10,680
Speaker 1: had no idea what was wrong with her and when

2228
01:50:10,720 --> 01:50:12,719
Speaker 1: she told me her sip because I said, louder clear,

2229
01:50:13,120 --> 01:50:15,800
Speaker 1: it sounds like COVID. She was adamant that it wasn't,

2230
01:50:16,080 --> 01:50:18,599
Speaker 1: but she being sick going on two weeks and everyone

2231
01:50:18,640 --> 01:50:21,799
Speaker 1: at her home had this mysterious illness that mirrors COVID

2232
01:50:21,920 --> 01:50:26,720
Speaker 1: but isn't COVID. Y'all podcast recommendation, you know, I like,

2233
01:50:26,840 --> 01:50:29,840
Speaker 1: I know, say these for the pregame, but the Daily

2234
01:50:30,000 --> 01:50:31,959
Speaker 1: had an episode with the COVID denials.

2235
01:50:32,040 --> 01:50:33,720
Speaker 2: I know some of y'all not gonna be listening. It

2236
01:50:33,800 --> 01:50:34,960
Speaker 2: makes you too mad or whatever.

2237
01:50:35,040 --> 01:50:38,519
Speaker 1: That's fine, But for those of us with strong Negro

2238
01:50:38,680 --> 01:50:42,760
Speaker 1: minds that can handle it, that episode was off the

2239
01:50:43,439 --> 01:50:48,879
Speaker 1: fucking chain. Them people are wow, and it's just normal

2240
01:50:48,960 --> 01:50:52,560
Speaker 1: logic just getting to them. Man like, man, I was

2241
01:50:52,600 --> 01:50:55,360
Speaker 1: just listening. She was shaking my head. One woman gave

2242
01:50:55,560 --> 01:51:00,240
Speaker 1: her grandma COVID and her grandma died and she was like,

2243
01:51:00,360 --> 01:51:02,640
Speaker 1: but she didn't die of COVID. I said what?

2244
01:51:03,720 --> 01:51:05,960
Speaker 2: And that woman had had COVID twice, by the way,

2245
01:51:06,520 --> 01:51:08,200
Speaker 2: and then said she was safe.

2246
01:51:09,200 --> 01:51:13,000
Speaker 1: Even said she smokes, but she's lives a healthy lifestyle

2247
01:51:13,200 --> 01:51:15,840
Speaker 1: and her immune system is great and she knows what

2248
01:51:15,960 --> 01:51:18,120
Speaker 1: her body can handle. I said, I don't know what

2249
01:51:19,160 --> 01:51:19,880
Speaker 1: what are we doing?

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Speaker 3: This? This ship make no cision? You know, But like

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01:51:24,160 --> 01:51:26,559
Speaker 3: you said, she lost a friend, and you know, next

2252
01:51:26,600 --> 01:51:28,720
Speaker 3: time she chip on teams, you just hit it back

2253
01:51:28,760 --> 01:51:30,320
Speaker 3: in the chat. I'm busy back now, I'm on the

2254
01:51:30,320 --> 01:51:32,599
Speaker 3: phone call right now. You know, just now, we ain't

2255
01:51:32,600 --> 01:51:33,320
Speaker 3: never talking again.

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01:51:33,560 --> 01:51:34,000
Speaker 1: What you're doing?

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01:51:34,080 --> 01:51:38,920
Speaker 3: Getting vaccinated again, getting my booster shots, getting the market

2258
01:51:39,000 --> 01:51:41,040
Speaker 3: of d vst on me. You know how we do,

2259
01:51:41,800 --> 01:51:46,080
Speaker 3: getting my chip in planet, getting marked up, getting that

2260
01:51:46,240 --> 01:51:49,160
Speaker 3: mark Mark Mark Mark.

2261
01:51:49,280 --> 01:51:50,880
Speaker 1: I act like I'm on the West coast. Call me

2262
01:51:50,960 --> 01:51:53,040
Speaker 1: a mark ass bitch because I got the market.

2263
01:51:53,840 --> 01:51:54,920
Speaker 3: A mack ass buster.

2264
01:51:55,320 --> 01:51:58,600
Speaker 1: Call me a mark ass buster because I'm getting it.

2265
01:51:59,320 --> 01:52:04,800
Speaker 3: Yes, call me a cool. Look at the cool.

2266
01:52:05,000 --> 01:52:06,840
Speaker 2: I started talking like the satan voice.

2267
01:52:07,800 --> 01:52:08,679
Speaker 4: What do you want?

2268
01:52:09,040 --> 01:52:16,080
Speaker 1: Oh, no, to see all your day was going? Her

2269
01:52:16,200 --> 01:52:18,559
Speaker 1: ass called me today with a lingering cough and had

2270
01:52:18,600 --> 01:52:20,760
Speaker 1: the damn audacity to bring up the vaccine and say,

2271
01:52:20,800 --> 01:52:23,800
Speaker 1: folks getting sick, and then said, you won't get sick

2272
01:52:23,840 --> 01:52:26,439
Speaker 1: if you get the vaccine. Oh, they say you won't

2273
01:52:26,479 --> 01:52:28,640
Speaker 1: get sick you get the vaccine. My response to her was,

2274
01:52:29,000 --> 01:52:32,040
Speaker 1: I'd rather get sick than died. From not being vaccinated.

2275
01:52:32,520 --> 01:52:34,160
Speaker 1: You know, she didn't have anything to say to that,

2276
01:52:34,640 --> 01:52:37,000
Speaker 1: but says, you know, we just have to understand that

2277
01:52:37,080 --> 01:52:38,719
Speaker 1: folks had their opinion to make choices.

2278
01:52:39,160 --> 01:52:41,519
Speaker 3: I went yes because she didn't want to argue with you.

2279
01:52:41,760 --> 01:52:46,160
Speaker 1: Well that's why everyone says, even all the anti vaccinized

2280
01:52:46,160 --> 01:52:48,880
Speaker 1: that in common. Even once they get vaccinated, they be like,

2281
01:52:49,320 --> 01:52:52,240
Speaker 1: I'm not telling people what to do, Like I am

2282
01:52:52,439 --> 01:52:56,360
Speaker 1: get vaccinated, you bitch. I went I went high like

2283
01:52:56,439 --> 01:52:58,960
Speaker 1: the one and only miss O suggests said, we really do,

2284
01:52:59,479 --> 01:53:01,560
Speaker 1: no matter how I foolish or uninformed it is.

2285
01:53:02,160 --> 01:53:03,760
Speaker 2: But wanted to get all that out.

2286
01:53:03,840 --> 01:53:05,760
Speaker 1: Thank you both personally for keeping me saying and rid

2287
01:53:05,760 --> 01:53:07,759
Speaker 1: As showing me that it ain't me in mind that's tripping.

2288
01:53:08,160 --> 01:53:12,320
Speaker 1: Love y'all continue to stay safe. Regards to you smoke yep, right,

2289
01:53:12,520 --> 01:53:13,000
Speaker 1: yeah that's why.

2290
01:53:13,160 --> 01:53:15,439
Speaker 3: So you know, I think you read an article that

2291
01:53:15,479 --> 01:53:17,320
Speaker 3: said a lot of black and brown people are like

2292
01:53:17,640 --> 01:53:19,400
Speaker 3: when they be like that's coming to work, They're like, no,

2293
01:53:19,640 --> 01:53:21,479
Speaker 3: I like being at home. Now I deal with the

2294
01:53:21,800 --> 01:53:25,439
Speaker 3: racist white folks. Everybody all means are recorded. I don't

2295
01:53:25,479 --> 01:53:28,479
Speaker 3: have to worry about no passive aggressive comments. So if

2296
01:53:28,520 --> 01:53:30,640
Speaker 3: I do, the shit's recorded like, no, like, I'm not

2297
01:53:30,720 --> 01:53:33,000
Speaker 3: in the rested, get back in there and deal with

2298
01:53:33,120 --> 01:53:35,080
Speaker 3: the Jim Bob thought and coming to my desk and

2299
01:53:35,160 --> 01:53:37,360
Speaker 3: wanted to remin watching me and talking about some shit

2300
01:53:37,439 --> 01:53:39,320
Speaker 3: and how was your weekend? All the other bullshit that

2301
01:53:39,400 --> 01:53:40,280
Speaker 3: I don't care about.

2302
01:53:41,120 --> 01:53:43,519
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm just not arguing with you, that's all.

2303
01:53:44,320 --> 01:53:44,559
Speaker 1: I mean.

2304
01:53:44,600 --> 01:53:45,880
Speaker 2: I've never been that kind of person.

2305
01:53:46,000 --> 01:53:49,400
Speaker 1: Everybody got their own shit about them and either they're

2306
01:53:49,439 --> 01:53:51,680
Speaker 1: working on it, or they're conscious of it, or they

2307
01:53:51,760 --> 01:53:53,720
Speaker 1: care or they don't care. But the end of the day,

2308
01:53:54,479 --> 01:53:58,519
Speaker 1: everybody got their own shit. Yeah they didn't if your

2309
01:53:58,600 --> 01:54:01,080
Speaker 1: shit is I'm willing to die from COVID because there's

2310
01:54:01,120 --> 01:54:05,760
Speaker 1: something some vaccines cool. I'm not feeling responsible for you,

2311
01:54:05,760 --> 01:54:09,479
Speaker 1: you know, I'm not feeling necessarily vindictive at the moment,

2312
01:54:09,640 --> 01:54:12,680
Speaker 1: but I'm definitely not giving you all this empathy and

2313
01:54:12,800 --> 01:54:15,559
Speaker 1: sadness when I hear you basically being like, I'm gonna

2314
01:54:15,720 --> 01:54:17,240
Speaker 1: go off to this death code.

2315
01:54:17,680 --> 01:54:21,000
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know, fuck around. They don't get better.

2316
01:54:21,080 --> 01:54:25,200
Speaker 3: Soon you'll be getting a team thing talking about Yes,

2317
01:54:25,720 --> 01:54:28,160
Speaker 3: pray for your coworker day on the ventilator, because two

2318
01:54:28,200 --> 01:54:29,920
Speaker 3: weeks is a long period of time to be sick.

2319
01:54:30,720 --> 01:54:35,120
Speaker 2: Yep, So it may I mean, but it's she may recover,

2320
01:54:35,280 --> 01:54:36,240
Speaker 2: she may not die nothing.

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01:54:36,280 --> 01:54:38,960
Speaker 1: But it's just stupid to risk that, to risk that,

2322
01:54:39,240 --> 01:54:42,480
Speaker 1: especially knowing that we don't understand the long term effects

2323
01:54:42,600 --> 01:54:46,040
Speaker 1: of COVID, but we do have the short term effects

2324
01:54:46,120 --> 01:54:49,560
Speaker 1: of it's giving people brain damage and shit, you know.

2325
01:54:49,760 --> 01:54:51,720
Speaker 1: And I'm not saying that to scare nobody. I don't

2326
01:54:51,720 --> 01:54:53,560
Speaker 1: wish that on nobody. I know there's people that listening

2327
01:54:53,560 --> 01:54:55,880
Speaker 1: to show that have had it, and I hope they're okay.

2328
01:54:56,080 --> 01:54:58,480
Speaker 1: I hope they got the good COVID and they not too.

2329
01:54:58,800 --> 01:55:01,120
Speaker 1: But why would But I'm sure even those people I

2330
01:55:01,360 --> 01:55:03,720
Speaker 1: went to them and said, would you risk it if

2331
01:55:03,760 --> 01:55:06,640
Speaker 1: you knew you might get COVID doing whatever you were

2332
01:55:06,680 --> 01:55:08,760
Speaker 1: doing before, would you have done it? They probably be like,

2333
01:55:08,800 --> 01:55:11,320
Speaker 1: I'd rather have not had it, right, And I think

2334
01:55:11,400 --> 01:55:13,680
Speaker 1: most people would agree with that, except there's a group

2335
01:55:13,720 --> 01:55:16,720
Speaker 1: of people out here that are like, in addition to not,

2336
01:55:16,960 --> 01:55:19,840
Speaker 1: I just don't give a fuck. I can handle it,

2337
01:55:19,920 --> 01:55:20,560
Speaker 1: And shit, I'm.

2338
01:55:20,440 --> 01:55:22,960
Speaker 3: Like, aren't aren't my immune sisters strong? Yo?

2339
01:55:23,320 --> 01:55:26,160
Speaker 1: What you don't know what that vaccine gonna do to

2340
01:55:26,200 --> 01:55:28,360
Speaker 1: you in ten years. You don't know what COVID is

2341
01:55:28,400 --> 01:55:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna do to you in ten days. What are you

2342
01:55:30,200 --> 01:55:35,360
Speaker 1: talking about? We got this one from Psycho Music. What

2343
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:39,440
Speaker 1: are fams just sending you to add to Guess the Race?

2344
01:55:39,560 --> 01:55:43,520
Speaker 1: This way you can have the regular intro and also

2345
01:55:43,600 --> 01:55:46,280
Speaker 1: the bonus outro for the show. Hope you enjoy it

2346
01:55:46,560 --> 01:55:49,040
Speaker 1: as always loved the show, and thank you for this.

2347
01:55:49,680 --> 01:55:51,600
Speaker 1: So you know, the new thing with us Guess the

2348
01:55:51,720 --> 01:55:54,200
Speaker 1: Race is I've changed it to not double the points,

2349
01:55:54,480 --> 01:55:55,280
Speaker 1: triple the points.

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01:55:55,480 --> 01:55:56,240
Speaker 3: Yes, triple.

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Speaker 1: But I didn't have an official song for triple points.

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Speaker 4: But now we do triple the points, triple the points,

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01:56:06,480 --> 01:56:12,160
Speaker 4: triple the points, triple points trip, triple the race, triple

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01:56:12,240 --> 01:56:19,160
Speaker 4: the points trip, triple points, triple the points, triple the race.

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01:56:21,000 --> 01:56:22,360
Speaker 2: Thank you, this is dope.

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01:56:22,480 --> 01:56:25,720
Speaker 1: Yes, triple, we got a triple the points, got triple

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01:56:25,760 --> 01:56:30,000
Speaker 1: the race. We gotta make the higher stakes for the record.

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01:56:30,080 --> 01:56:32,520
Speaker 1: We are always open to more.

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01:56:32,400 --> 01:56:35,520
Speaker 2: And more theme songs and segments and stuff for the show.

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01:56:36,280 --> 01:56:39,440
Speaker 1: If you're a creative person, you make music, whatever you

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01:56:39,560 --> 01:56:41,680
Speaker 1: want to send something in and have us use it

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01:56:41,760 --> 01:56:44,960
Speaker 1: during the show, we will. We appreciate that. You know,

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01:56:45,120 --> 01:56:49,160
Speaker 1: the other day I use an infrared crypto beat to

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01:56:50,040 --> 01:56:54,680
Speaker 1: we were making a commercial for Anchor UH, which is

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01:56:54,760 --> 01:56:57,400
Speaker 1: like a new sponsor to the show, and I was like,

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01:56:58,200 --> 01:57:00,520
Speaker 1: we can add a beat underneath this, and it was, oh,

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01:57:01,520 --> 01:57:04,840
Speaker 1: we know we can add a be because Infrared Crypto

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01:57:04,920 --> 01:57:06,280
Speaker 1: gave us a bunch of bes and toes. We can

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01:57:06,320 --> 01:57:07,840
Speaker 1: do whatever you want with them and then boom you

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01:57:07,880 --> 01:57:10,400
Speaker 1: throw it under there and we love that stuff. Or

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01:57:10,640 --> 01:57:12,440
Speaker 1: it could be like I said, people coming up with

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01:57:12,560 --> 01:57:14,400
Speaker 1: songs and we can make clips out of them. We

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01:57:14,520 --> 01:57:17,800
Speaker 1: love those short like you know, try to keep them

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01:57:17,880 --> 01:57:20,720
Speaker 1: like less than a minute, but you know, perferably even

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01:57:20,800 --> 01:57:23,280
Speaker 1: under thirty seconds if you can. But like a short.

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01:57:24,120 --> 01:57:26,360
Speaker 1: We love that shit and we love when it's specifically

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01:57:26,480 --> 01:57:29,480
Speaker 1: something for our show because to me, it's even better

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01:57:29,560 --> 01:57:32,040
Speaker 1: than playing like you know, I know some people preferred us,

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01:57:32,080 --> 01:57:34,080
Speaker 1: but it's even better than playing like some of the

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01:57:34,200 --> 01:57:36,840
Speaker 1: jingles and then making it our own. I like this better.

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01:57:36,960 --> 01:57:38,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, because y'all are so talented.

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01:57:38,600 --> 01:57:40,440
Speaker 3: Yes, cause you're not gonna get it anywhere else.

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01:57:40,920 --> 01:57:43,560
Speaker 2: And lastly, Cedric Wright said, hello, I love the show.

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01:57:43,760 --> 01:57:44,640
Speaker 2: I don't write in much.

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01:57:45,200 --> 01:57:47,040
Speaker 1: I actually had a question and your show was the

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01:57:47,080 --> 01:57:48,760
Speaker 1: first place I thought of that would more than likely

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01:57:48,840 --> 01:57:51,120
Speaker 1: have the resources to get an answer. Okay, my nine

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01:57:51,200 --> 01:57:53,760
Speaker 1: year old daughter is really in the history. We recently

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01:57:53,800 --> 01:57:56,080
Speaker 1: went to Oklahoma and she was highly excited about learning

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01:57:56,120 --> 01:57:58,160
Speaker 1: more about the history of the state. I'm trying to

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01:57:58,240 --> 01:58:01,680
Speaker 1: find something that's not whitewash, but it also don't want

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01:58:01,720 --> 01:58:06,920
Speaker 1: to get overly graphic into the real history of Okay, Oklahoma.

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01:58:07,600 --> 01:58:10,440
Speaker 1: But if I could find something that's honest and age appropriate,

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01:58:10,760 --> 01:58:13,120
Speaker 1: that would be perfect. Would you all have any connections

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01:58:13,160 --> 01:58:15,840
Speaker 1: that might be able to provide me some suggestions. I'm

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01:58:15,880 --> 01:58:18,120
Speaker 1: sure there are other listeners who might find the information

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01:58:18,240 --> 01:58:21,640
Speaker 1: used FORUL as well. I appreciate the suggestion and feedback.

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01:58:21,680 --> 01:58:25,800
Speaker 1: I'll be listening as always, and you are are always appreciated.

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01:58:25,920 --> 01:58:27,320
Speaker 1: Thanks seg Oh, thank you.

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Speaker 3: The number one source would be your local library and

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01:58:32,280 --> 01:58:36,840
Speaker 3: contact the librarian because I'm guarantee you they would nobody

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01:58:36,920 --> 01:58:39,680
Speaker 3: better than anybody else that could actually point you in

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01:58:39,720 --> 01:58:42,080
Speaker 3: the right direction. And you don't have to spend money.

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01:58:42,120 --> 01:58:44,320
Speaker 3: Your local library is absolutely possifticy free, so you're not

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01:58:44,360 --> 01:58:47,320
Speaker 3: putting no money out of pocket. And now with most

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01:58:47,400 --> 01:58:51,480
Speaker 3: local libraries that have some forms of digital so you

2407
01:58:51,600 --> 01:58:54,240
Speaker 3: know you can digitally do it or you can go

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01:58:54,480 --> 01:58:57,680
Speaker 3: pick it up. So the number one thing would be

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01:58:58,000 --> 01:59:00,880
Speaker 3: use your the resources of the local library.

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01:59:01,840 --> 01:59:05,880
Speaker 1: Well, I'll tell you this much. I'm glad you wrote

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01:59:05,880 --> 01:59:07,920
Speaker 1: it in to ask about this, because I'm writing a

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01:59:08,000 --> 01:59:13,800
Speaker 1: book called the Whole Tep History. Oh no, it's self published.

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01:59:13,960 --> 01:59:15,680
Speaker 1: You're gonna be able to get it everywhere that you

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01:59:15,720 --> 01:59:20,480
Speaker 1: can get the forty eight Laws of Power, so thrift stores,

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01:59:21,560 --> 01:59:28,080
Speaker 1: flea markets, your cousin's trunk. And so it's gonna tell

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01:59:28,120 --> 01:59:31,760
Speaker 1: you about Oklahoma because a lot of people don't understand

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01:59:31,840 --> 01:59:35,760
Speaker 1: the history of Oklahoma. That's his whole chapter in the book,

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01:59:36,120 --> 01:59:38,560
Speaker 1: you know, the white supremacy of Oklahoma, or is I

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01:59:38,680 --> 01:59:42,000
Speaker 1: like to call it o kkkk Homer don't know.

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01:59:42,760 --> 01:59:47,960
Speaker 3: Roger is given terrible advice, terrible terrible advice. And for those.

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01:59:49,240 --> 01:59:51,640
Speaker 1: Yeah, a black woman underman and a black man on

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01:59:51,960 --> 01:59:54,200
Speaker 1: I am terrible happened to me.

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01:59:54,600 --> 01:59:58,360
Speaker 3: Terrible terrible advice. Don't you listen to him? And we

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01:59:58,560 --> 02:00:01,600
Speaker 3: have librarians of that actually listen to the show, so

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02:00:01,720 --> 02:00:04,400
Speaker 3: they might have, you know, suggestions and things like that.

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02:00:04,680 --> 02:00:07,080
Speaker 3: You know, so let us know librarians out there.

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02:00:08,080 --> 02:00:11,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, and I don't know specifically for Oklahoma, but I

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Speaker 1: would also throw it in they do have child versions

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02:00:15,560 --> 02:00:20,480
Speaker 1: of a lot of these books, like I know, like

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02:00:20,640 --> 02:00:24,560
Speaker 1: even Kennedy did like a version for kids. I know

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02:00:24,960 --> 02:00:28,120
Speaker 1: Coach did a version for kids of his books. So

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02:00:28,280 --> 02:00:32,600
Speaker 1: like there's ways to like kind of educate a nine

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02:00:32,680 --> 02:00:36,240
Speaker 1: year old about some of this stuff without without being

2434
02:00:36,360 --> 02:00:42,520
Speaker 1: too like triggering and it's more ascriptive and all that stuff.

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02:00:42,680 --> 02:00:45,280
Speaker 1: So I look into some of those, but I don't

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02:00:45,320 --> 02:00:48,760
Speaker 1: have any suggestions specifically for Oklahoma. So I hoped. I

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02:00:48,800 --> 02:00:52,360
Speaker 1: hope what we said here helped. We appreciate you trusting

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02:00:52,440 --> 02:00:56,040
Speaker 1: us with d question. All right, that's it. We'll be

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02:00:56,120 --> 02:00:59,040
Speaker 1: back tomorrow. I don't think we have any guests lined

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02:00:59,120 --> 02:01:01,800
Speaker 1: up for this week, but I know we have guests

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02:01:01,880 --> 02:01:05,160
Speaker 1: lined up the week after. But we'll be back tomorrow.

2442
02:01:05,240 --> 02:01:09,400
Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to everybody. We appreciate y'all. Until next time.

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02:01:10,200 --> 02:01:14,080
Speaker 1: I love you, And I forgot to mention before I

2444
02:01:14,120 --> 02:01:16,200
Speaker 1: said I love you, you can still get don't get

2445
02:01:16,240 --> 02:01:19,000
Speaker 1: you get tickets. You can get tickets. Look at the

2446
02:01:19,080 --> 02:01:22,640
Speaker 1: link in the show and virtual tickets will be coming soon.

2447
02:01:23,080 --> 02:01:26,720
Speaker 1: We will get you that option I accidentally created. I

2448
02:01:26,840 --> 02:01:28,920
Speaker 1: created a test run to see if we could charge

2449
02:01:29,520 --> 02:01:30,640
Speaker 1: two people paid to day.

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02:01:30,680 --> 02:01:32,600
Speaker 2: I had to refund the money, like this was a test.

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02:01:32,880 --> 02:01:35,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, it says it in the title. Yeah, it got

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02:01:35,520 --> 02:01:36,560
Speaker 3: pumped out by accident.

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02:01:36,640 --> 02:01:38,520
Speaker 1: I don't understand we could do it. I gave the

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02:01:38,600 --> 02:01:41,320
Speaker 1: money back, so I deleted the episode. I don't want

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02:01:42,000 --> 02:01:44,760
Speaker 1: We will let you guys know what you people know

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02:01:45,000 --> 02:01:48,720
Speaker 1: when it's time. Yes, it's funny you guys people feel

2457
02:01:48,760 --> 02:01:52,080
Speaker 1: like it's not gender inclusive, which I understand, you know,

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02:01:52,440 --> 02:01:54,240
Speaker 1: But then I was like, you people, but then that

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02:01:54,320 --> 02:01:56,880
Speaker 1: feels racist. I just go y'all, y'all. Yeah, I mean

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Speaker 1: I went with y'all. Should have went with y'all. I'm

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02:01:58,760 --> 02:02:01,320
Speaker 1: from the South, but it was just funny. It was like,

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02:02:01,360 --> 02:02:04,400
Speaker 1: I'll let you people, you people. I'll let you people know,

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02:02:05,240 --> 02:02:08,400
Speaker 1: and you people know how y'all are. Anyway, we'll be

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Speaker 1: back tomorrow. Till then, I love you