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Speaker 1: Ron An Aian.

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Speaker 2: If I stick my finger in it and try to

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Speaker 2: turn it, it doesn't make it turn. It just it spins,

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Speaker 2: but it never it never actually runs fast. So of course,

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Speaker 2: naturally I had a question of you know, Steve, never

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Speaker 2: because you never know when it's gonna come on and

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Speaker 2: you're gonna get a You're gonna get a horrible manicure.

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Speaker 2: The Car Doctor wondered.

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Speaker 3: What your thoughts were on the aftermarket prices and the part.

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Speaker 2: I think there are places and points where after market

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Speaker 2: makes perfect sense. So here's a car that's ten years

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Speaker 2: old with three hundred thousand miles on it.

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Speaker 1: Welcome to the radio home of ron An Aian, the

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Speaker 1: Car Doctor. Since nineteen ninety one, this is where car

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Speaker 1: owners the world overturned to for their definitive opinion on

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Speaker 1: automotive repair. If your mechanics giving you a busy signal,

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Speaker 1: pick up the phone and call in.

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Speaker 2: The garage doors are opening, but I am here to

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Speaker 2: take your calls at eight five five five six ninety

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Speaker 2: nine hundred and nah pee.

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Speaker 1: Running.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm on a mission this year that I

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Speaker 2: want to I want to talk more about oil changes.

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Speaker 2: We don't talk enough about simple stuff, and I want

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Speaker 2: to talk about you know, God, it's the simple things

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Speaker 2: that seem to have the biggest effect on vehicles today.

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Speaker 2: Oil changes, you know everybody, And I think I don't

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Speaker 2: want to say everybody. I have to get that programming

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Speaker 2: you have gotten away from that Gee I want a

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Speaker 2: cheap oil change. I think a lot of you are

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Speaker 2: asking for an efficient oil change. I think a lot

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Speaker 2: of you are asking for a correctly done oil change,

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Speaker 2: and I think you're seeing the value in it. And

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Speaker 2: I think the reason you're seeing the value in it

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Speaker 2: is because of the price of a replacement vehicle. And

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Speaker 2: you realize that the oil change still is the most

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Speaker 2: critical thing you can do to a vehicle when done

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Speaker 2: properly and efficiently and effectively. And there's still a lot

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Speaker 2: of little mistakes. And I don't realize the mistakes that

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Speaker 2: the first time that's been having their oil change is

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Speaker 2: done somewhere else. I had that experience this week. Someone

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Speaker 2: brought me a twenty twenty one Lexus g X four sixty.

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Speaker 2: You know, nice vehicle, super nice vehicle. And you know,

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Speaker 2: big heavy tank of a vehicle, the three point five

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Speaker 2: it's just it's a bulletproof motor. It's just it runs forever.

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Speaker 2: But it's got to get serviced correctly. And some of

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Speaker 2: the faults that I saw this other shot make was

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Speaker 2: in the way that they they they didn't pick up

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Speaker 2: after themselves. You know, I can't stand a messy room.

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Speaker 2: When you leave the room, make sure the room is clean.

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Speaker 2: When you do the oil change, make sure the vehicle's clean.

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Speaker 2: You know, when you change the filter, can we wipe

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Speaker 2: down the excess oil that's left over from from you know,

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Speaker 2: when you take the case, it's a filter housing. When

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Speaker 2: you take the housing down, can we get rid of

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Speaker 2: the extra oil? I mean it's important because the next

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Speaker 2: you know it's not an oil leak? Because you're starting

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Speaker 2: to question it. And over time, over a couple of

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Speaker 2: is it an oil leak? Or is that leftover? Or

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Speaker 2: what is that? So it's important the other shop needs

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Speaker 2: love these shops that won't replace drain plug gaskets. You

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Speaker 2: look in the majority of owners manuals. You know, when

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Speaker 2: you take the oil drain plug out, when you take

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Speaker 2: the bolt out of the bottom of the oil pan,

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Speaker 2: there's a gasket there. And in a lot of cases

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Speaker 2: they're removable. They're replaceable. Now some are part of the plug.

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Speaker 2: General motors applications come to mind, Ford applications come to mind,

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Speaker 2: Chrysler Jeep. You know where it's it's not replaceable, and

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Speaker 2: that's okay. I'm not saying those have to be replaced.

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Speaker 2: Those get replaced eventually that the O ring gets crushed

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Speaker 2: It also depends on how much of a gorilla the

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Speaker 2: the Japanese vehicles, toyotas, hondas where they call for drain

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Speaker 2: plug gaskets to be replaced Nissans. This Lexus has a

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Speaker 2: from the factory. They use a fiber board style twelve

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Speaker 2: to be replaced when you have to take a hammer

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Speaker 2: so stuck and embedded to the oil pan. A. You

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Speaker 2: know it's over tightened. B it's time to replace it

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Speaker 2: because it's it's it's critical when you have to overtighten

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Speaker 2: I've seen it happen where you're you're trying to tighten it,

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Speaker 2: wedged itself into this threaded nut that has threads that

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Speaker 2: We tend to check new oil changes for the first

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Speaker 2: no exception. It takes eight point two courts as perspective.

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Speaker 2: You know, is it seven point eight? Is at eight quarts?

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Speaker 2: Is it eight point three? Yeah, this vehicle was half

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Speaker 2: too much oil is bad, too little oil is bad,

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Speaker 2: and you don't see that as the consumer, but you'll

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Speaker 2: long term, and you know, it's all the little things.

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Speaker 2: Oil changes. It's a game of inches. It really is.

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Speaker 2: It's the minutia in the detail that makes a good

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Speaker 2: and consider it's not what your vehicle's worth, it's what's

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Speaker 2: And I have this conversation more and more coming up

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Speaker 2: going to talk about the twenty eleven Honda Odyssey that

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Speaker 2: the result of an oil leak that you know, created

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Speaker 2: What does it cost to replace a car? And you

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Speaker 2: to gee, simple is important. Basic is important. Correctly is

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Speaker 2: before we go into the into the pause. You know,

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Speaker 2: taking care of a car is no different than taking

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Speaker 2: care of ourselves. You get to bed by ten o'clock,

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Speaker 2: You got to take care of the car. It really

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Speaker 2: is that important. Hello and welcome Roninini and the car

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Speaker 2: That phone number again is eight five five zero nine

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Speaker 2: Ron a call eight five five five six zero nine

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Speaker 3: Now back to Ron.

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Speaker 2: Hey, let's take it right up to New Hampshire and

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Speaker 2: talk to Steve. Steve, welcome to the Car Doctor, sir.

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Speaker 2: How can I help you in your own for Tahoe.

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Speaker 3: Hey there, Ron, I've got a two thousand and four

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Speaker 3: there are these body support mounts. They look like big

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Speaker 2: Wait minute, now, is it the body mounts on the

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Speaker 2: So why does he have to cut? Why does he

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Speaker 3: Exactly? That doesn't it does not make sense.

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Speaker 2: That doesn't make any sense to me either. I would

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Speaker 2: Ask me how I know this has has a different

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Speaker 2: I don't think it's unrepaarable as long as it's not

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Speaker 3: All right, Okay, all the hardware those rubber cheeseburgers have

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Speaker 3: been compressed rye rotted right, the pocket, the ear that

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Speaker 2: Yeah, yes, what a couple of thousand bucks?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, actually about thirty five hundred, he quoted me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so let's let's let's play the game this way.

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Speaker 2: Let's make it four thousand. Let's say he's going to

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Speaker 2: there's a lot of unknown here. Okay, Yeah, and let

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Speaker 3: No, new guy came recommended on the internet locally here

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Speaker 2: Okay, what happened to your last guy?

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Speaker 3: The last guy was in Merrimack. He had the truck

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Speaker 3: want to do the work. I just had it flapped

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Speaker 2: It's amazing there's shops like that out there. But I'm

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Speaker 2: sorry to hear that they represent that they represent the industry. Badly.

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Speaker 3: So, you know, have you ever heard of safety cap products?

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Speaker 2: No, that doesn't mean anything. It could be regional, it

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Speaker 2: a regular basis. Why what do they do? They make

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Speaker 3: For this exactly? They custom fab these pockets or ears

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Speaker 2: Is this guy?

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Speaker 3: Is this guy from Hollis?

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Speaker 2: Is this guy one of those shops?

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Speaker 3: He is? He's an authorized dealer, all right. But what's

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Speaker 3: He wants to fabricate it himself, him and his son. Why,

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Speaker 3: I know, the plot thick and.

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Speaker 2: Well, yeah, yeah, why, I mean that's a legit question.

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Speaker 2: And listen, I don't think this is a conversation you

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Speaker 2: I think, Hey, listen, you know whatever his name is,

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Speaker 2: is I'm curious. Look, I'm trying to develop a relationship

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Speaker 2: you know, to forge this relationship and steal, so to speak,

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Speaker 2: as you do. My frame mounts. But I've got it.

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Speaker 2: I'm just trying to process it in my mind. And

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Speaker 2: You just want the job done right and you don't

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Speaker 2: And tell him the last guy I was at And

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Speaker 2: I'm reading your mind here, Steve, so you know if

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Speaker 2: I'm off base, just tell me. But I think your

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Speaker 2: am I am? I going from bad to worse? Am

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Speaker 2: seven months of not having my truck back?

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Speaker 3: You know.

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Speaker 2: What I'd be concerned about is my question would be,

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Speaker 2: would pull the gas tank out. I'd make sure all

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Speaker 3: Then I've kept up on the maintenance with it. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: And then I say, yes, it's sad. Yeah, well, let's

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Speaker 2: Then there's the Then there's the other side of this.

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Speaker 2: Let's say you don't fix it and you want another one.

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Speaker 2: A base Tahoe is sixty five thousand dollars. Brother, it's

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Speaker 2: And I think you have to approach it from that perspective.

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Speaker 2: It's not what it's going to cost you to fix.

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Speaker 2: It's what's it going to cost you to replace at

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Speaker 2: let's say three months from now, whether you've done it

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Speaker 2: five grand. And let's say six months from now, the engine.

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Speaker 2: Let's go, and that's ten grand. You're still under twenty

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Speaker 2: that's now mechanically fit, and you don't have six years

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Speaker 2: Good luck to you, Stevie. It's time to go down

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Speaker 2: new guy. Let us know what you do. I'm Ronning

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Speaker 2: Andy and the car doctor. I'm back right after this.

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Speaker 2: See welcome back by the way. Eight five five five

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Speaker 2: it's problem eight five five five six zero nine nine

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Speaker 2: Steve in New Hampshire and just talk about that for

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Speaker 2: And it's a it's a hard first date for Steve

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Speaker 2: And that's what a good shop we'll try to do

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Speaker 2: And that's why I suggested for Steve to go and

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Speaker 2: I think that part of a shop's overhead. You know,

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Speaker 2: ouh and the ah and the tour and you know,

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Speaker 2: here's what we're about. Because the shop is looking at

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Speaker 2: you know, people are just people are Some people are

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Speaker 2: being honest, it's it's an estimate. You don't know what

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Speaker 2: like a doctor. Some people walk into a doctor's office

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Speaker 2: and they're physically fit, and they're not smokers, they're not drinkers.

433
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Speaker 2: They go to the gym, they work out, they do

434
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Speaker 2: what they're supposed to do. The doctor usually kind of

435
00:21:20,240 --> 00:21:22,520
Speaker 2: knows what to expect. It's that person that abuses their

436
00:21:22,560 --> 00:21:24,959
Speaker 2: body and doesn't take care of themselves and you know,

437
00:21:25,720 --> 00:21:27,720
Speaker 2: get their you know, eight hours of sleep a night,

438
00:21:27,800 --> 00:21:30,640
Speaker 2: and there's always a bump in the road, there's always

439
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Speaker 2: a surprise. I want to talk about the danger of

440
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Speaker 2: teaching your kids how to use a piggy bank. I

441
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Speaker 2: read this story on All Data News, and if you

442
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Speaker 2: go out to aldata dot com and slide over the resources,

443
00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:45,000
Speaker 2: you'll get down to their newsletter they put out every month.

444
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:48,639
Speaker 2: This story made me think about I've run into this before.

445
00:21:49,400 --> 00:21:51,800
Speaker 2: The title of this article from All Data is spare

446
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Speaker 2: Change shuts down Chevy Express Van and it goes on

447
00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,919
Speaker 2: to talk about a two thousand and eight Chevy Express

448
00:21:58,000 --> 00:22:00,840
Speaker 2: Van fifteen hundred with two thus thousand miles on it.

449
00:22:00,920 --> 00:22:03,800
Speaker 2: So your mind, get out of your mind. Your mind

450
00:22:04,440 --> 00:22:07,200
Speaker 2: automatically goes too well, it's old. The problem was the

451
00:22:07,280 --> 00:22:09,119
Speaker 2: Chevy van would not crank or start, and it was

452
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Speaker 2: towed to the shop. Now, about a month ago, this

453
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Speaker 2: repair shop replaced the underhead fuse box because of corrosion.

454
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Speaker 2: Because it's a two thousand and eight, it's fifteen sixteen

455
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Speaker 2: years old, it's got two hundred thousand miles on it,

456
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Speaker 2: so that's our reasonable expectation. So they found that the

457
00:22:26,080 --> 00:22:29,720
Speaker 2: underhead fuse box had corrosion in it, so they vehicle

458
00:22:29,800 --> 00:22:31,960
Speaker 2: ran fine, and then about after about two months, it

459
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,600
Speaker 2: came back with the exact same problem, but this time

460
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Speaker 2: around there were no trouble codes. The technician went through

461
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Speaker 2: his due diligence. He went through fuses. All the fuses

462
00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:44,960
Speaker 2: were good. He checked power power and power out. He

463
00:22:44,960 --> 00:22:48,240
Speaker 2: looked at the power mode module circuits all good. He

464
00:22:48,320 --> 00:22:51,040
Speaker 2: then went through the ignition switch and found everything there

465
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Speaker 2: to be correct. Everything looked right, all right. Even looked

466
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Speaker 2: at the engine controller the powertrain control module and it

467
00:22:56,760 --> 00:22:58,840
Speaker 2: showed a crank request in the proper position. You can

468
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Speaker 2: do all this with a scan tool and see what

469
00:23:00,520 --> 00:23:02,919
Speaker 2: is the computer looking for. Sometimes you can see what

470
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Speaker 2: it's missing. When he used the scan tool, to crank

471
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Speaker 2: the engine over. He commanded the crank relay and he

472
00:23:11,480 --> 00:23:14,480
Speaker 2: got a message on his He got a message on

473
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Speaker 2: his scan tool saying that they were unable to carry out.

474
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,520
Speaker 2: Hey energize the crank relay, which would then energize the

475
00:23:22,520 --> 00:23:24,760
Speaker 2: circuits to allow the vehicle to run because there was

476
00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,520
Speaker 2: an immobilizer fault. There was a problem in the anti

477
00:23:28,560 --> 00:23:33,000
Speaker 2: theft system. So they went through some wiring and they

478
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Speaker 2: talked to All Data Tech Support and Old Data Tech line.

479
00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,000
Speaker 2: Old Data has a very good hotline. By the way,

480
00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,160
Speaker 2: if you're using All Data, you should try their hotline.

481
00:23:39,200 --> 00:23:42,680
Speaker 2: It works really well. And they went through. They walked

482
00:23:42,680 --> 00:23:46,879
Speaker 2: them through checking various network communication points, and basically a

483
00:23:46,960 --> 00:23:51,040
Speaker 2: computer network of which all modern day vehicles have is

484
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Speaker 2: nothing more than that connection of phones in your house

485
00:23:53,720 --> 00:23:55,639
Speaker 2: or used to be right when phones were hardwired, or

486
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Speaker 2: a computer network at work. Everything you know is hardwired

487
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Speaker 2: on a land bus. You know it's going in through

488
00:24:01,960 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 2: a router and a switch and so on and so forth.

489
00:24:06,560 --> 00:24:09,080
Speaker 2: So the technician when he checked the computer network of

490
00:24:09,119 --> 00:24:11,160
Speaker 2: the vehicle at various points, he took out the comb.

491
00:24:11,240 --> 00:24:14,480
Speaker 2: The comb is the junction point or the splice box

492
00:24:14,520 --> 00:24:17,879
Speaker 2: where a lot of the computer network comes together, and basically,

493
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,760
Speaker 2: through various test procedures, they were able to narrow it

494
00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 2: down that there was a problem in the radio. The

495
00:24:23,640 --> 00:24:28,040
Speaker 2: radio was actually pulling down the theft side of the network,

496
00:24:28,840 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 2: preventing the theft module from speaking to the rest of

497
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:34,720
Speaker 2: the system. So the computer never saw it, so it

498
00:24:34,760 --> 00:24:38,240
Speaker 2: never allowed the vehicle to start. So he took the

499
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Speaker 2: radio out for some further testing. And this is what

500
00:24:41,160 --> 00:24:44,439
Speaker 2: made me think of the repair I ran into. It

501
00:24:44,520 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 2: seemed that my customer had just taught his small child

502
00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: how to save Nichols. Right. They were teaching them about,

503
00:24:53,080 --> 00:24:57,040
Speaker 2: you know, saving money every week, so daddy, and it

504
00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:58,800
Speaker 2: just happened. This happened to be a Chevy vehicle too.

505
00:24:58,840 --> 00:25:00,440
Speaker 2: This was quite a few years ago. Was in a van,

506
00:25:00,480 --> 00:25:02,119
Speaker 2: though I think it was a car. I think it

507
00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:07,760
Speaker 2: was a Chevy, and pala and the kids saw the

508
00:25:07,800 --> 00:25:10,320
Speaker 2: father got out to put gas in the car. My

509
00:25:10,480 --> 00:25:12,919
Speaker 2: customer got out to put gas in the car, and

510
00:25:13,040 --> 00:25:15,840
Speaker 2: the child looked down and they saw some quarters in

511
00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:18,879
Speaker 2: the cup holder, and they saw the slot of the

512
00:25:18,920 --> 00:25:23,800
Speaker 2: CD player, and the father got in the car. The

513
00:25:23,800 --> 00:25:27,439
Speaker 2: car won't start. Well, sure enough, let me tell you

514
00:25:27,480 --> 00:25:30,920
Speaker 2: that was quite the repair, right, Sure enough, the technician

515
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:34,520
Speaker 2: and all data. You know, as he's taking the radio out,

516
00:25:34,560 --> 00:25:38,679
Speaker 2: he hears clunk, rattle, rattle. Right, here's like something rattling

517
00:25:38,720 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: around inside the radio. Okay, takes the radio apart, finds

518
00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,480
Speaker 2: the change, takes the change out of the radio, plugs

519
00:25:45,480 --> 00:25:47,399
Speaker 2: the radio back in, while all of a sudden the

520
00:25:47,440 --> 00:25:50,439
Speaker 2: computer networks back up the short circuits. Garne, the veagel starts.

521
00:25:51,640 --> 00:25:55,040
Speaker 2: So maybe the point is teach your kids how to

522
00:25:55,080 --> 00:25:58,240
Speaker 2: save money, but don't teach him that not every slot

523
00:25:58,280 --> 00:26:01,600
Speaker 2: is where a nickel should go, right, because I think

524
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,239
Speaker 2: there was about eight cents. Well in my case there was.

525
00:26:04,320 --> 00:26:06,480
Speaker 2: There was two quarters a nickel and a dime, so

526
00:26:06,520 --> 00:26:08,640
Speaker 2: for about sixty five cents across this guy a couple

527
00:26:08,680 --> 00:26:11,200
Speaker 2: of three hundred dollars in diagnostics back then. I don't

528
00:26:11,200 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: know how much change was in this van for that

529
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,560
Speaker 2: all data was working on. You haven't heard of the

530
00:26:15,600 --> 00:26:20,320
Speaker 2: small CDs. Well, you know, it's tom. It's just you know,

531
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 2: it's funny the things you see as a mechanic. And

532
00:26:24,600 --> 00:26:28,880
Speaker 2: you know the point becomes that there's one hundred points here, right,

533
00:26:28,920 --> 00:26:31,119
Speaker 2: You got to teach your kids about, you know, saving

534
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:32,760
Speaker 2: nickels and the piggy bank. But you got to teach

535
00:26:32,800 --> 00:26:34,600
Speaker 2: them that, you know, it's the piggy bank, not every

536
00:26:34,640 --> 00:26:37,800
Speaker 2: slot's where the change goes. Okay, And then you got

537
00:26:37,840 --> 00:26:40,000
Speaker 2: to stop and think about the poor technician, all the

538
00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,040
Speaker 2: weird things mechanics see that prevent the vehicle from starting

539
00:26:44,080 --> 00:26:46,800
Speaker 2: and create the issues. You have to wear so many

540
00:26:46,800 --> 00:26:49,159
Speaker 2: hats as a mechanic. But I just thought it was

541
00:26:49,200 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 2: a great tipp it's in there. It's in All Data's

542
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,879
Speaker 2: letter this month All Data dot com, and you slide

543
00:26:53,920 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 2: over the resources you can get out to it. But

544
00:26:55,560 --> 00:26:59,119
Speaker 2: it just it. It stirred up memories inside of me

545
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,440
Speaker 2: of things gone by, days gone by, needless to say,

546
00:27:03,520 --> 00:27:05,800
Speaker 2: unfortunately for the customer. He explained to me that he

547
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:09,119
Speaker 2: then taught his kid about saving dollar bills, which wouldn't

548
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:11,880
Speaker 2: short out the radio. But then he started finding that,

549
00:27:12,280 --> 00:27:14,800
Speaker 2: you know, well, it was costing him a couple of

550
00:27:14,800 --> 00:27:16,879
Speaker 2: bucks a week until he solved that problem because he

551
00:27:16,880 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 2: also had a CD player at home. That's a whole

552
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,880
Speaker 2: nother story. So eight five five five six zero nine

553
00:27:21,920 --> 00:27:24,800
Speaker 2: nine zero zero eight five five five six zero nine

554
00:27:24,840 --> 00:27:26,680
Speaker 2: nine zero zero. I'm running any of the card. Doctor

555
00:27:26,720 --> 00:27:46,520
Speaker 2: I'll be back right after this. Welcome back Ron the

556
00:27:46,520 --> 00:27:49,280
Speaker 2: car Doctor phone number eight five five five six zero

557
00:27:49,480 --> 00:27:52,440
Speaker 2: nine nine zero zero again eight five five five six

558
00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:54,640
Speaker 2: zero nine nine zero zero. Tom and I are alive

559
00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,640
Speaker 2: and in color this weekend and Labor days, this Labor Day.

560
00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:01,199
Speaker 2: No New Year's it's got to be something. I know

561
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,200
Speaker 2: it was different New Year's weekend. I'm sorry, so you're

562
00:28:04,200 --> 00:28:07,399
Speaker 2: not listening to a tape. We are live this weekend.

563
00:28:07,440 --> 00:28:09,760
Speaker 2: A five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

564
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:11,919
Speaker 2: I should point out again, as I always do, that

565
00:28:11,920 --> 00:28:15,160
Speaker 2: that phone number is active after the show is off era.

566
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:17,399
Speaker 2: We're on the air live on the network Saturdays two

567
00:28:17,480 --> 00:28:20,200
Speaker 2: to four pm Eastern Time, but we keep that phone

568
00:28:20,280 --> 00:28:22,280
Speaker 2: number active with a messaging service so you can leave

569
00:28:22,320 --> 00:28:23,840
Speaker 2: a message and we will call you back. I should

570
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:27,560
Speaker 2: also point out this week and part of the following week,

571
00:28:27,720 --> 00:28:30,760
Speaker 2: we're trying to finish up a live or a fresh

572
00:28:30,760 --> 00:28:33,520
Speaker 2: show for the weekend of the eighteenth. I think it is,

573
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:37,240
Speaker 2: so if you want to give us a call, we

574
00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:41,239
Speaker 2: will be doing some recordings on Wednesday, and it might

575
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,000
Speaker 2: even be some other nights too, but we're looking to

576
00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,360
Speaker 2: do some evening recording. So if you've got a message,

577
00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 2: and you can't get to us during normal show hours

578
00:28:47,160 --> 00:28:49,440
Speaker 2: two to four pm Eastern time. Please leave a message

579
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:51,080
Speaker 2: and double do our best to get back to you

580
00:28:51,160 --> 00:28:52,520
Speaker 2: and get you in qu for that as well, so

581
00:28:52,520 --> 00:28:54,400
Speaker 2: we can get your question answered. Because that's what this

582
00:28:54,480 --> 00:28:57,000
Speaker 2: radio show is about, right. It's not just to hear

583
00:28:57,080 --> 00:28:59,200
Speaker 2: me flap my gums. It's to answer your car questions

584
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,520
Speaker 2: and solve your problem. And that's what we've been doing

585
00:29:01,560 --> 00:29:05,000
Speaker 2: for thirty three I think it's thirty four years now.

586
00:29:05,000 --> 00:29:07,640
Speaker 2: I have to do the math, but it's been a while,

587
00:29:08,120 --> 00:29:11,080
Speaker 2: so we like answering questions like this one. Hey, Ron,

588
00:29:11,080 --> 00:29:13,000
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. This comes to us from Billy. I

589
00:29:13,040 --> 00:29:15,400
Speaker 2: think Billy's in Colorado. If I remember who this is,

590
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,640
Speaker 2: Happy New Year. I hope you and yours had a

591
00:29:17,680 --> 00:29:19,920
Speaker 2: great holiday. I had a scary experience yesterday. It turned

592
00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:21,360
Speaker 2: out okay. I was wondering if you'd ever seen or

593
00:29:21,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: heard of it happening. I have a twenty fifteen GMC

594
00:29:24,040 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 2: Akadie with a three point six liter GDI engine. It

595
00:29:27,040 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 2: has one hundred thousand miles on it. Developed light misfires

596
00:29:29,400 --> 00:29:31,360
Speaker 2: at idols, not enough to throw a coat. I have

597
00:29:31,400 --> 00:29:33,640
Speaker 2: a wolln up lasting rig that I use on my BMW's,

598
00:29:33,680 --> 00:29:35,840
Speaker 2: but I decided to try the easy route and use

599
00:29:35,960 --> 00:29:39,080
Speaker 2: an intake valve cleaning kit. I followed the directions carefully.

600
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:40,880
Speaker 2: I ran the whole can through the throttle bodies the

601
00:29:40,880 --> 00:29:42,440
Speaker 2: car idle, didn't turned the car off and let it

602
00:29:42,480 --> 00:29:44,480
Speaker 2: sit for thirty minutes. When I went back out to

603
00:29:44,480 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: start it up, the engine was hydro locked and would

604
00:29:46,360 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 2: not crank. Apparently, some cleaning fluid pulled in the intake

605
00:29:49,160 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 2: and then dan then ran down into the open cylinder

606
00:29:51,560 --> 00:29:53,120
Speaker 2: while the engine was sitting. I went back a half

607
00:29:53,120 --> 00:29:55,240
Speaker 2: fire later, and the effected cylinders had dried up enough

608
00:29:55,520 --> 00:29:57,440
Speaker 2: that it started and soon ran normally. From now on,

609
00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,400
Speaker 2: I'll stick to WALMN up lasting lots more work, but

610
00:29:59,440 --> 00:30:02,520
Speaker 2: more effective. This I weren't safer. Have you ever seen this, Billy.

611
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 2: I've seen something close to it, Billy, And I think

612
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,840
Speaker 2: here's the missing part to that. All right, it's hard

613
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,800
Speaker 2: today on a modern engine, and some of its trial

614
00:30:11,800 --> 00:30:13,680
Speaker 2: and error. But where do you hook the spray? How

615
00:30:13,720 --> 00:30:16,080
Speaker 2: do you go in? You would think the throttle body

616
00:30:16,120 --> 00:30:19,520
Speaker 2: is a safe point, which on most applications it is.

617
00:30:20,200 --> 00:30:23,640
Speaker 2: I don't run a fuel system cleaning at idle. I

618
00:30:23,720 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 2: generally run it at a minimum twelve hundred doar pm,

619
00:30:26,760 --> 00:30:30,280
Speaker 2: typically fifteen to eighteen hundred rpm, and I will only

620
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:33,400
Speaker 2: do it on a warmed up engine. I actually will

621
00:30:33,400 --> 00:30:35,520
Speaker 2: hook up a scan tool on a lot of vehicles

622
00:30:35,560 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: and I will look at OBD two level readings, just

623
00:30:39,280 --> 00:30:42,800
Speaker 2: nothing fancier than that. And on a newer vehicle it

624
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:45,400
Speaker 2: will give me CAT temperature. And I will only do

625
00:30:45,440 --> 00:30:48,160
Speaker 2: a fuel system cleaning a on a closed loop engine

626
00:30:48,200 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 2: when CAT temperature is over a thousand degrees. All right,

627
00:30:52,160 --> 00:30:54,960
Speaker 2: and off idle so I know I'm getting enough airflow

628
00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:58,440
Speaker 2: through to carry it through and then before I shut

629
00:30:58,520 --> 00:31:00,960
Speaker 2: the vehicle off. Although some these kids they want you

630
00:31:01,000 --> 00:31:03,520
Speaker 2: to do that soak all right, I will take it

631
00:31:03,520 --> 00:31:07,000
Speaker 2: around the block. It depends on the vehicle, but I

632
00:31:07,040 --> 00:31:10,480
Speaker 2: don't want to let it sit specifically for the problem

633
00:31:10,480 --> 00:31:13,440
Speaker 2: you're having, I are had. I think the other thing

634
00:31:13,480 --> 00:31:16,440
Speaker 2: I look at is, depending upon who's cleaning solvent, I

635
00:31:16,560 --> 00:31:19,720
Speaker 2: use not all of them ask for that that let

636
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:22,800
Speaker 2: it sit in soak period, And if they do, I'm

637
00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:25,240
Speaker 2: much more careful about where I put that in. And

638
00:31:25,320 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 2: unfortunately for you, yes, it's trial and error. There have

639
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:32,000
Speaker 2: been some issues but you know, it's not uncommon. I

640
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,760
Speaker 2: would say this. I agree walnut lasting is safer, but

641
00:31:35,840 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 2: it is a ton more work. And I think I've

642
00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,760
Speaker 2: gotten more response out of regular on a you know,

643
00:31:42,760 --> 00:31:44,600
Speaker 2: if I'm doing this once every hundred thousand miles, that's

644
00:31:44,640 --> 00:31:47,560
Speaker 2: too much. You know, every thirty to every thirty to

645
00:31:47,600 --> 00:31:50,320
Speaker 2: thirty five thousand miles thirty, let's make the number thirty.

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Speaker 2: And so I'm thinking about it in my head. Every

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Speaker 2: thirty thousand miles for a fuel system cleaning is not

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Speaker 2: out of the realm. And and I should mention by time,

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Speaker 2: at least once a year is a good time to

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Speaker 2: get a fuel system clean because those cars that don't

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Speaker 2: go anywhere, that have low mileage on them, they're more

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Speaker 2: prone to carbon deposits than the ones that run twenty

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Speaker 2: thousand miles or more every year. So yeah, that's not

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Speaker 2: all fuel system cleanings. It's not a can job. It's

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Speaker 2: not every car comes out the same. It's there are

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Speaker 2: some specifics to it. Appreciate the call, Billy, but I

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Speaker 2: wouldn't be afraid of fuel system cleaning. Maybe just try

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Speaker 2: a slightly different method. Call me or text me or

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Speaker 2: I mean email me. If you got any more questions,

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Speaker 2: runnin Eating the Car Doctor here eight five five five

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Speaker 2: six zero nine nine zero zero. We're coming back right

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Speaker 2: after this. Why this car is automatic, it's systematic, it's dromatic.

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Speaker 1: What's greased?

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Speaker 2: Lightning? Some four met and we are here once again

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Speaker 2: at eight five five five six zero nine nine zero zero.

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Speaker 2: Run An Eating the Car Doctor coming up next hour,

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Speaker 2: by the way, in case you me talking about it,

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Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the twenty eleven Honda Odyssey,

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Speaker 2: and you may want to go and catch that episode

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Speaker 2: if you're listening to this on podcasts, or if you're

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Speaker 2: catching us on a live show out in your affiliate

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Speaker 2: you may want to stick around because we're going to

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Speaker 2: talk about how an oil leak stopped this Honda dead

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Speaker 2: in its tracks. And no it's not because oil. The

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Speaker 2: oil ran out of the engine and caused it to seas.

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Speaker 2: It was a very repairable problem, but it was just

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Speaker 2: kind of weird how it happened. So oil leaks. And

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Speaker 2: I'm going to close out this hour the way I

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Speaker 2: started it and talking about oil engine oil and how

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Speaker 2: to be confused unfortunately, that you can call that number

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Speaker 2: and regardless of when you hear this show, we are

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Speaker 2: on the network. We are live in studio Saturday afternoons

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Speaker 2: that aforementioned eight five five five six zero nine nine

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Speaker 2: next live broadcast. I also want to point out that

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Speaker 2: coming up in the next two weeks, if you do

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Speaker 2: fresh show for the weekend of the eighteenth. We want

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Speaker 2: to us during the week. I'll be calling people at

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Speaker 2: little car doctor at night midweek, that kind of thing.

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Speaker 2: So we want to talk to you about that. And

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Speaker 2: solve your problems there as well, because again, that's what

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Speaker 2: this radio show is all about. I want to say

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Speaker 2: thank you everybody. By the way, the launch of the

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Speaker 2: Car Doctor store, hats, t shirts, mouse plays, all that

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Speaker 2: Everybody seems to be loving them. We're very happy. We

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Speaker 2: hope you're happy too. If not, let us know, shoot

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Speaker 2: me an email Ron at cardoctorshow dot com, let us

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Speaker 2: know your thoughts and just to let you know, we

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Speaker 2: had a production meeting yesterday with the group. We've got

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Speaker 2: some ideas for you for this year, so you want

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Speaker 2: to stick around for us this year. We got a

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Speaker 2: bunch of exciting things the way again, help you keep

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Speaker 2: fixing your vehicles. That's what we're about. I'm Roninani and

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Speaker 2: the Car Doctor. It's been a pleasure till the next time.

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Speaker 2: Good mechanics aren't expensive, they're priceless. Seal