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Speaker 5: We had another episode of the Gangster Chronicles and I'm
Speaker 5: with the homie.
Speaker 4: Big Steal in the house. Man, I don't know how
Speaker 4: much Battle REP you followed? Eight you watch better rep?
Speaker 4: Not too much necessary? You know, God damn it? Out
Speaker 4: of so much doing this kid shit right now. So shit,
Speaker 4: trying to get this kid ready to get to school.
Speaker 5: Man, I ain't pretty much doing a goddamn thing right now,
Speaker 5: but school school, school, for sure.
Speaker 4: Yes, it's time, man, Karan going to this first year
Speaker 4: of college. Man, shut out to nephew up there doing
Speaker 4: this thing. Man, you shoot Chris up in Seattle, Man
Speaker 4: for his second go round up there. Man.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but the battle rap scene is pretty large. Man.
Speaker 3: You can't even you can't doubt it. You get me.
Speaker 5: It's been around for a long time. Man, so we
Speaker 5: I think we need that. Man, We need we need
Speaker 5: those uh those uh those rap expressions.
Speaker 4: You feel me, Yeah, for sure. So today man, we
Speaker 4: got like this dude right here, like the lebron James,
Speaker 4: the just the ultimate, just a battle rap. Every time
Speaker 4: I turn around, he just out there serving the motherfucker geeks.
Speaker 6: She got him yo yo yo was going on. It
Speaker 6: was popping, man, oh Man, same old thing. Man appreciate having.
Speaker 4: Show, Oh for sure, Man, we appreciate you even more, playboy.
Speaker 4: So the thing he was man like, I was telling
Speaker 4: your cousin shout out the spit fire. The thing man
Speaker 4: that initially drew me to you was the fact that
Speaker 4: she was a West Coast cat. Yeah, and he was
Speaker 4: keeping a gangster. You know what I'm saying. You look
Speaker 4: looked at us like, man, that dude like a crip
Speaker 4: or something. You know, he from somebody's neighborhood. You know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. Then you know, Phil was like, that's
Speaker 4: my cousin. I said, for real. You know what I'm saying, Man,
Speaker 4: how did you get into battle rap and stuff? Man?
Speaker 5: Man?
Speaker 6: Uh, to be honest, like I washed battle rap coming up,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like as you know, like
Speaker 6: you say, Spa, he did the battling.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It was the first nigga already seen like battling. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying as far as like on that level.
Speaker 6: You know I'm saying that really get some notoriety from it.
Speaker 6: So I always tuned into it, like my nigga ali
Speaker 6: be battling in the hood, different shit like that. We'll
Speaker 6: watch the reed dollars, the murder mooks and shit like that.
Speaker 6: You know, So I always watched it. I never really
Speaker 6: thought i'd get into it, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Because I rapped you know, I go to the studio
Speaker 6: A Records like the next nigga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I was always into rapping and doing the rap shit.
Speaker 6: But as far as when I finally just like stepped
Speaker 6: into that field, it was just it was like it
Speaker 6: was like damn, like some spur of the moment, some
Speaker 6: random shit.
Speaker 4: Man, My god.
Speaker 6: Kevin Parks, he got a league in the Orange County,
Speaker 6: the Riot, you know what I'm saying, which now I'm
Speaker 6: like co owner with him now, but at the time
Speaker 6: it was all strictly him and he just was doing
Speaker 6: it out of Orange County, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I knew a partner who was battling up there,
Speaker 6: like who would go up there and just do little
Speaker 6: local battles and shit.
Speaker 1: He always tell us about like y'all.
Speaker 6: Be going to Santa Ana going to Fullerton man battling
Speaker 6: niggas and shit, like yeah, like we be in the hood,
Speaker 6: Like yeah. We never really go with him though and
Speaker 6: catch the motherfuckers. We never really had no chance to
Speaker 6: go tune in to him. So one day he like
Speaker 6: hit me, like yo, man, they called me to come
Speaker 6: up here in battle. They said, we I mean bring
Speaker 6: some other motherfuckers with us. Man A got litte hundred
Speaker 6: dollars tourn it out of some quick shit. It weren't
Speaker 6: really nothing, but we just didn't like, fucking man, let's go.
Speaker 6: We aint never really peeped. It, never went out here
Speaker 6: with you went out there. They just had some freestyle
Speaker 6: shit going on. Like I say, we wrapped, so we
Speaker 6: just did the little freestyles fucking around that day, and
Speaker 6: then the people out there was like, man, y'all should
Speaker 6: do this, Like y'all should y'all should start battling. Man,
Speaker 6: So then they end up tapping in on me. And
Speaker 6: like I say, like probably like a month from that day,
Speaker 6: I had my first battle on camera, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, that shit on YouTube when I battled this
Speaker 6: cat named King Rico. And then after that it just
Speaker 6: kept going, you know what I'm saying it like it
Speaker 6: was just like on something like I say, some spur
Speaker 6: of the moment, just went out there with the homy
Speaker 6: fucking around freestyling, and the niggas who was bucking battles
Speaker 6: was like, man, we want to see y'all do this
Speaker 6: shit more.
Speaker 1: And we just kept going on it.
Speaker 4: So you was just on your a sinction after that, man,
Speaker 4: King Rico.
Speaker 6: Do then yeah, man, all y'all did he man, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, served him Saturday?
Speaker 4: You served him? Man? So what was like, when did
Speaker 4: you know, man, that this shit was gonna be something? Though? Like, like,
Speaker 4: when was that moment when you said, you know what, man,
Speaker 4: I made it? And I don't think none of us
Speaker 4: ever really said we made it, you know what mean?
Speaker 4: Because you always still feel like, man, shit, she can
Speaker 4: go bad in any minute, But what was that moment man, like, Man,
Speaker 4: I'm really doing this shit like it kind of trip
Speaker 4: you out.
Speaker 6: So, like I say, so, those was all like early battles.
Speaker 6: It wasn't really no money if all, it wasn't really
Speaker 6: nothing going on. My first time I battled in front
Speaker 6: of this cat named Nords who was at the time
Speaker 6: working for U Areel with your smack and you know
Speaker 6: the U are Reel, you know what I mean. So
Speaker 6: he was at one of the battles. I did a
Speaker 6: battle out, I did a battle. He was there like
Speaker 6: hosting it or whatnot, you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 6: after the battle, I didn't have no Twitter. I already
Speaker 6: had none of that. And after I did the battle,
Speaker 6: I remember of my boy telling me, like, yo, man
Speaker 6: to do nords Man. He on Twitter, Man, he tweeted
Speaker 6: about you man, tweeted about your battle man telling people
Speaker 6: like it's this dude from Compton who like the next
Speaker 6: who next up? Like you know what I'm saying. I'm
Speaker 6: like yeah, like he said, like he came to the battle,
Speaker 6: said all that. So they ended up calling me later
Speaker 6: on like Yo, you want you to come to New
Speaker 6: York do a battles When they had this stuff caught
Speaker 6: the proving grounds in order to get on you all
Speaker 6: real used to have to go through this process, caught
Speaker 6: the proven grounds, the PG process where you they'll just
Speaker 6: get different people from different states and they're just you know,
Speaker 6: see who the you know who the best one, and
Speaker 6: they end up you know, advancing on to getting their
Speaker 6: chance to really be in a part of their platform.
Speaker 1: So I went to New York. I say, that was
Speaker 1: my first time really.
Speaker 6: Saying like damn, like like this real, like you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, like cause I had to really take
Speaker 6: that leap of faith. Like I said, it wasn't no
Speaker 6: money of us, So we have to buy our own
Speaker 6: flights for our own rooms, do all that to really
Speaker 6: do it. So I'm like, at this point, I gotta
Speaker 6: really be really to take it serious because if I'm
Speaker 6: finna spend three four hundred on a flight, five six
Speaker 6: hundred on the room, they gotta go out here and
Speaker 6: be ready to win, because I ain't evenna waste no
Speaker 6: thousand dollars and all that just cook.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying. Is it prize money or something.
Speaker 6: It wasn't even no money involved like this really just
Speaker 6: like nigga, just the proving ground, Like it ain't nothing.
Speaker 6: I go out there and win or lose, win getting shit.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Your dude, you just gotta year.
Speaker 6: You just going like to see if you're gonna make it.
Speaker 6: And they battle the battle that I ended up doing,
Speaker 6: it didn't even drop. So I don't even so not
Speaker 6: only did a nigga go out there and did all that,
Speaker 6: but I ain't never even get to see the battle
Speaker 6: of footage nothing, you know what I'm saying. It Really,
Speaker 6: like I said, it was just like a test to
Speaker 6: like proving yourself. So I was one of the times
Speaker 6: when I'm like, okay, this this is a turning point
Speaker 6: to where it's.
Speaker 1: Like if you serious with this ship. You gotta really
Speaker 1: take it serious.
Speaker 6: Because you know it ain't no guarantee that it's gonna
Speaker 6: blow or ain't. So it's like, if you're gonna go,
Speaker 6: you might as well it's gonna go now. I just
Speaker 6: be like, man, fuck all that. Man just finished doing
Speaker 6: what you're doing. Do some other shit to make some
Speaker 6: money or get your name out there. So I say,
Speaker 6: I went out there, I did my thing. A lot
Speaker 6: of people liked the battle who was there, but nobody
Speaker 6: got to see it. The battle never dropped, never came out,
Speaker 6: so I kind of got discoursed. Ain't gonna from Like,
Speaker 6: I ain't fuck with them niggas no more. Like you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, I'm cool nigga that spent a
Speaker 6: thousand dollars flew to New.
Speaker 1: York, whipped the nigga ass.
Speaker 6: I'm feeling like they mad because I didne went out
Speaker 6: there and whooped the nigga and all this like.
Speaker 4: They might have had something to do. What you think
Speaker 4: they might have been made. That's how I was looking
Speaker 4: at it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, on the rear, I'm looking at it like that,
Speaker 6: like damn, cause the nigga I was balting, he was
Speaker 6: from the East Coast. This happened in New York, So
Speaker 6: I'm like, oh, this was probably they was probably thinking
Speaker 6: I was finna come be the sacrificial lamb.
Speaker 4: I didn't.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you probably figured a lot of that ship is
Speaker 5: set up for u FA favoritism. It was set up
Speaker 5: for the favorite teams, like the hometown he wrote hit
Speaker 5: Me Up, get Me Make Me Crazy?
Speaker 4: Yeah, plus New York and New York almost to a point,
Speaker 4: rightfully slow because they're the birthplace of hip hop. New
Speaker 4: York kind of is like oh, la nigga from Compton,
Speaker 4: come out here and serve saying, yeah, he ain't you
Speaker 4: served up? But you can walk there ruin the plans.
Speaker 6: Now Yeah, so now it's like, yeah, they feel back
Speaker 6: from me. So it goes on now fast forward. They
Speaker 6: had hit me back though, like you know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying to like come back again, like yeah, man, like
Speaker 6: but like on like I say, it ain't dropping nothing,
Speaker 6: but they on my phone like trying to gasp me
Speaker 6: like even need you come back again?
Speaker 4: Do it?
Speaker 6: So I'm like, oh, this is what they trying to do.
Speaker 6: Like I don't already ran through one nigga nosk another
Speaker 6: test Like I'm already off it now though, like now
Speaker 6: I'm straight, you know what I'm saying, Like I'm cool,
Speaker 6: but it's.
Speaker 1: A league that uh shout out my guy organic.
Speaker 6: They had the league King of the Dot is really
Speaker 6: based out of Canada, but they did a lot of
Speaker 6: West Coast events. So at the time, they had this
Speaker 6: spot caught the bunker out in there lay where they
Speaker 6: would do battles.
Speaker 1: They would host of that.
Speaker 6: They don't got it no more, but they would, so
Speaker 6: I heard they they tapped in on me, like, yo, man,
Speaker 6: would you battle on the bunker? I battled this kid
Speaker 6: named Sane out of Inglewood at the time, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. And when I battled him, it just
Speaker 6: so happened, Like all the stars alone, this shit gonna
Speaker 6: be on pay per view. It's a lot of big
Speaker 6: names on the court at the time, like a Verb
Speaker 6: and the Sorest dudes who've been doing it for a
Speaker 6: long time. So it's like I'm at the bottom of
Speaker 6: the car. They're like, Finn, open this joint up. It
Speaker 6: just so happened. Like I say, the night before, I'm
Speaker 6: still you know, I'm still hanging out, so I'm I
Speaker 6: don't I'm knocked outsleep by the time the battle comes,
Speaker 6: cause the day before I've been up all night doing
Speaker 6: all type of other shit. So when they hitting me,
Speaker 6: it's probably like five six o'clock. I'm just now like,
Speaker 6: oh damn, I ain't gonna lie. I forgot all about
Speaker 6: that shit type type vibe, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So when I get there, now it's probably like eight,
Speaker 6: like three foul battles then already went on, So the
Speaker 6: pay per view already rocking, people talking about it. It's
Speaker 6: like probably one more battle before it's my battle now like.
Speaker 1: Before the main event.
Speaker 6: But I get there, so now I'm like, it's like
Speaker 6: light's camera action, like, oh he got a battle, like
Speaker 6: you still like you showed up and now all eyes
Speaker 6: on me. I think I went crazy in that battle versaying.
Speaker 6: But it's on pay per views, live people watching it.
Speaker 6: So now at this time, everybody like, yo, who is
Speaker 6: this dude? Like you know what I'm saying, Like niggas
Speaker 6: is tuned in like this nigga he knew like they
Speaker 6: ain't never seen. I say, I only had like one
Speaker 6: or two battles that came out on a half or
Speaker 6: something like that. I would have no big name and
Speaker 6: had no gang of views. But now this is a
Speaker 6: this is a card where the whole like battle rap
Speaker 6: culture tuned into you know what I'm saying right when
Speaker 6: they see me go crazy on Now, I think that
Speaker 6: was like the moment where everybody like took notice, like, Yo,
Speaker 6: this dude, whoever Geechee is like this nigga nice? Like
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, consated for that one compensated
Speaker 6: for that won't make sure?
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, definitely it's cheesing faulls. Yeah. Yeah, at least.
Speaker 5: Some money involved, trying to pay your dues at some port.
Speaker 5: You gotta, you know, some got to turn into some
Speaker 5: financial success.
Speaker 1: Yeah, gotta be straight up.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 6: In the beginning, status I say for battle rap like
Speaker 6: on the come up, it ain't really Now it's different though,
Speaker 6: it's a lot more opportunities.
Speaker 1: You. I think this, like two thousand and seventeen is the.
Speaker 5: Platform to to, you know, want to get somewhere else,
Speaker 5: like to the next level of you know, making records
Speaker 5: or deal or some shit like that.
Speaker 1: I ain't gonna lie it used to be like that.
Speaker 6: I think Now it's people that really aspire to be
Speaker 6: battle rappers though, like it's dudes who really like, they like,
Speaker 6: they not even trying to make records they like in
Speaker 6: the mirror, practicing a battle bars, trying to be battle rappers,
Speaker 6: because it's certain motherfuckers that make a better living than
Speaker 6: dudes who making records that ain't really hot. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like, you gotta think if I'm at
Speaker 6: the level I'm at now, I do a show ten
Speaker 6: minutes of rapping, man, I get fifty thousand.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying that you feel this?
Speaker 6: Dudes up there wrapping ten twenty thirty minutes, You know
Speaker 6: what I mean? They probably getting four thousand or something.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, they might can do three
Speaker 6: shows that whole weekend and make fifteen twenty.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I'm up there ten minutes, I'm already done, got my
Speaker 6: whole fifty I went home.
Speaker 1: Now, you know what I'm saying, I'm done. You feel me,
Speaker 1: I come back two weeks later, do it again.
Speaker 6: Or I can go do a little four thousand dollars,
Speaker 6: a little show in a small city with some small
Speaker 6: name type of thing. So now it's more lucrative. Like
Speaker 6: you see, you got people like Remy ma got a
Speaker 6: whole battle rap league. You know what I'm saying. You
Speaker 6: know what I mean, Like Smack, he's been around for years.
Speaker 6: They done partnered up with caffeine. You know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying that the deal was, Drake is a part the caffeine.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. He doesn't been at my
Speaker 6: battles hosting that rize. Money gets large gets larger.
Speaker 5: Now as far as these uh, these are these A
Speaker 5: list rappers basically having you know how like a motherfucker
Speaker 5: might have a side basketball team or you know how
Speaker 5: niggas have the basketball team or whatever. So niggas is
Speaker 5: doing these battle leagues. Now, okay, it's like that. That's
Speaker 5: that's cracking.
Speaker 6: It's turning into that now, like where you got a
Speaker 6: lot of the A list rappers who probably come to
Speaker 6: these events or athletes, you know what I'm saying. They
Speaker 6: come to these events and they put money up in
Speaker 6: different things of that nature where they might sponsor certain dudes.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like I done been at
Speaker 6: certain events where you got catch like Gerald mccooy.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: NFL story, who been at that joint and he come
Speaker 6: to a battle and be like your twenty more thousand
Speaker 6: on the battle or you know what I'm saying. Such
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, just on the top of it.
Speaker 6: And like I say, now it's contracts, so it's not
Speaker 6: even really no prize money. It's like this guaranteed bridge.
Speaker 6: It's like deposit back in. Like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: but year you getting paid, so you not going to
Speaker 6: go now held up, it's already is locked in. We
Speaker 6: signed a contract, you send a deposit. Then after I'm done,
Speaker 6: you send the other money once the job done.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It might be like I say, judging involved on certain
Speaker 6: on top of it, if somebody want to do that,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. It is certain battles that
Speaker 6: go down like that where I did a battle. I
Speaker 6: think a lot of people know me and my brother
Speaker 6: rum Nitty we had a battle where it was one
Speaker 6: hundred and fifty thousand on the line. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, me versus him? Uh Drake hosted it like
Speaker 6: two years ago on like known not the main events,
Speaker 6: like the biggest. It's out of that a summer man's
Speaker 6: considered like the super Bowl, a battle rap you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So, but we did that and we
Speaker 6: split that. But like, yeah, that's just few and form between.
Speaker 6: Like usually it's it's boot boot boot sign it, you
Speaker 6: know what i mean, Like anything else. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, it's locked in, you know what I mean
Speaker 6: when you at a certain level. But like, but like
Speaker 6: it's not everybody getting that. I'm not gonna sit in
Speaker 6: act like this is the whole battle rap culture now,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. It's some niggas who, like
Speaker 6: you say, you gotta pay they due, They gotta pay
Speaker 6: their way to get there, get their name up, and
Speaker 6: you know, go through the trenches. I've been doing this
Speaker 6: shit for years now, you know what I'm saying. In
Speaker 6: the battle everybody, It's like it's probably about one name
Speaker 6: or two names on the on the list of battle
Speaker 6: rappers you can write down that I ain't battled.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's like probably one city you can name it, I
Speaker 6: ain't been in, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, for real, you know you mentioned those big mainstream
Speaker 4: stars like Drake, and I see different rappers that they
Speaker 4: have taken the interest in the battle rap arena. As
Speaker 4: far as like those I would called mainstream rappers. Do
Speaker 4: you think it's anybody out there capable of stepping into
Speaker 4: the arena doing the battle records? The battle rap shit
Speaker 4: can be brutal, and that's way different. Hell No, we
Speaker 4: saw how that Joe Button shit turned out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think you.
Speaker 6: I think the difference is like somebody that's on that
Speaker 6: mainstream level of them, they don't have like they would
Speaker 6: have to have a time, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 6: cause it takes time to really because you gotta be
Speaker 6: zero dark thirty. Sometimes you gotta lock that door and
Speaker 6: like shut shit off, like he was saying earlier, and
Speaker 6: he got it worrying about the kids.
Speaker 4: You got to think.
Speaker 6: I got three kids, But they gotta be times where
Speaker 6: it's like when I came in, I got a battle
Speaker 6: coming up. I got to block all this shit out
Speaker 6: right now because I got to write this damn Remember
Speaker 6: this shit had this shit locked in it.
Speaker 1: It's only one time. It ain't no studio where I
Speaker 1: could punch it in.
Speaker 6: Once I'm in front of these two three thousand people,
Speaker 6: I gotta say this shit crispy one time, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So I think a lot of times
Speaker 6: those A list people though they got the skill level.
Speaker 1: Because rapping is rapping. You can rap, you can rap.
Speaker 6: So I'm not saying they ain't got the skill to
Speaker 6: do it, but they might not have a time to
Speaker 6: focus in to really just zone in on an opponent,
Speaker 6: and then they got.
Speaker 1: More as stake.
Speaker 6: It's more for the average battle rapper to talk about
Speaker 6: with them, you know what I mean? They life is
Speaker 6: probably more on and that's one of the key things
Speaker 6: in battle rap, being able to pick apart something. So
Speaker 6: if you if your whole life is on YouTube, your
Speaker 6: whole life is on the vlogs, I can talk about.
Speaker 5: All that, like you know what I'm saying, basically, you
Speaker 5: you so, like basically, when you know you're scheduling the battle,
Speaker 5: you know who you're fin the battle, so you get
Speaker 5: to basically dissect the motherfucker feed into they background they passed,
Speaker 5: you know so, because I've noticed that, you know, it's
Speaker 5: a different format dude, they give you.
Speaker 6: Back in the day, it was like freestyling, Like people
Speaker 6: to just meet up, freestyle, come off the top of
Speaker 6: the dome, say some ship has some free boars of.
Speaker 1: Something that they ain't gonna use on the record. Now
Speaker 1: It's like, nah, I.
Speaker 6: Know September fourteenth, I'm battling John John, and all right
Speaker 6: now I need to focus on John John all the
Speaker 6: way from July today up until September.
Speaker 5: I got another I can say with motherfucking composure and
Speaker 5: mind state, gotta really be settled, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: To get it because you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, because you gotta be
Speaker 5: able to have to talk still. They get to talk
Speaker 5: about the leather pads bad and you be you.
Speaker 1: Again, you will go you have pants doing on up.
Speaker 5: The mother I did talk about Brian. They get to
Speaker 5: talk about that WHODDI hacked the motherfucking leather pads?
Speaker 3: You know what telling you know?
Speaker 6: And that's how it get like they dissected that deep though,
Speaker 6: like something you got on or to the point of
Speaker 6: your nigg It could be anything.
Speaker 1: You could have.
Speaker 5: Been real nigga talked about nigga when you was five
Speaker 5: and pissed on yourself and the.
Speaker 3: Raids on that part.
Speaker 4: You know, he'll be.
Speaker 5: Doing some straight fed investigation with his battle rap Tide.
Speaker 4: Just heard man, the crip Ma is having a battle
Speaker 4: right he's having a battle. Yeah, that's real interesting. You
Speaker 4: know what battle. I have to clarify something I did
Speaker 4: not call Cryp crypt Mark on the episode last week.
Speaker 3: A few niggas was hitting me about that.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: They was like, man, you need because you know you
Speaker 5: did that ship on purpose. You slipped that ship out. Yeah,
Speaker 5: called him crypt Mark.
Speaker 4: Why these dudes in this room, they don't know me
Speaker 4: twenty years Mark is not even a part of my vocapulary.
Speaker 4: I don't even talk.
Speaker 1: It's all. It's all good, nigga, it's all good. You slip,
Speaker 1: you slid the crip mark out there.
Speaker 4: It's all.
Speaker 5: It's it's it's it's nothing. He said, many he said.
Speaker 3: Listen what he said. He said.
Speaker 5: It wasn't no purpose. But it did slip out there.
Speaker 5: Did the crip mark slip out there?
Speaker 3: Just yes?
Speaker 4: Or dog didn't crip out there? That was in the
Speaker 4: second slip Check it out. Niggas is real upset about that. Yeah,
Speaker 4: nigga told me dog.
Speaker 5: Tripper right now, No, not crip Mac not tripping.
Speaker 1: He got a little.
Speaker 5: Fan base, so you know based this like, oh, man, nigga,
Speaker 5: you know you did that ship on purpose.
Speaker 4: Steal me on Instagram dog. He said, well, you need
Speaker 4: to tell Steve this. He needs to explain himself on
Speaker 4: the next episode. I be thinking that nigga probably got
Speaker 4: a hold. He got a little fan based niggas. Dog,
Speaker 4: that's really.
Speaker 3: All that you owe that nigga.
Speaker 5: You owe that nigga some cock eys, chicken nigga and
Speaker 5: some others, and a case of.
Speaker 1: A six pack. Don't even give him the faulty royal
Speaker 1: blue tea shirt.
Speaker 5: That niggas get that. Do you owe that nigga fifteen
Speaker 5: piece of cock? Guysnigg you don't.
Speaker 4: Forget the old English nigga.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, we're gonna We're gonna sit there.
Speaker 5: We're gonna he gonna my nigga still gonna sit in
Speaker 5: that right over, Specialty Liver.
Speaker 3: We're gonna get Uber eats to break that right all over.
Speaker 4: You gotta fix that shut out to the homie Crip
Speaker 4: mac Man, you know, going back.
Speaker 1: He said, Crip Mac this time it's same Mark.
Speaker 4: It's Mark Crip Mack. So we have mainstream catch that,
Speaker 4: you know, trying to go in the battling When Joe
Speaker 4: Buttons had his battle dog and he came up there
Speaker 4: and Joe Buttons for the record this.
Speaker 1: Slaughter eminem put it together or something like that.
Speaker 4: And this is not no you know that, why would
Speaker 4: you have I don't even know Joe Button, So this
Speaker 4: is not no think of me. But he's the guy
Speaker 4: could think of the most recent memory that attempted to
Speaker 4: jump into that, you know, into that ring. That's a
Speaker 4: whole different rim.
Speaker 1: Now that's a fun.
Speaker 4: So I saw him at a point he pulled out
Speaker 4: his paper like he had his rip raps roting down quick.
Speaker 4: You think that was one of those points to where
Speaker 4: he just kind of lost focus right in the middle
Speaker 4: of that and start forgetting this stuff in kind of panic.
Speaker 6: I think it was just like like when you get
Speaker 6: up there, because I think it was a cannabis who
Speaker 6: did something like that, pulled his but no button that
Speaker 6: said he was gonna walk off. I think he quit though,
Speaker 6: like and walked off like he's just done. Like he
Speaker 6: like you ain't gonna listen, Like I think when it
Speaker 6: comes to them dudes, like like you said earlier, like
Speaker 6: it would come a point where like if you doing
Speaker 6: a show and you come you come from rapping and
Speaker 6: you're doing the show, you know the crowd he's there
Speaker 6: to hear you now they coming in here, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But in battle Wrap, it's like fifty
Speaker 6: fifty they coming to hear you. But at the same
Speaker 6: time they also coming and like like see you fuck
Speaker 6: up too, Like once you fuck up, now that part
Speaker 6: of the show is like boom, get the fuck out
Speaker 6: of here, like you trash or whatever.
Speaker 1: The other dude killing you.
Speaker 6: So that moment when you're seeing something that the crowd
Speaker 6: ain't feeling, they gonna let you know.
Speaker 1: That it ain't dope.
Speaker 6: And that's an ego hit for a rapper, like you
Speaker 6: don't never think the shit you rapping ain't dope.
Speaker 1: So you're getting up. He got there.
Speaker 3: Have you got that armor on?
Speaker 1: Gotta have that armor on.
Speaker 5: You got to be able to take the motherfucking good
Speaker 5: with the bad.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 5: If you if you slipping fall, nigga, you slipping fall,
Speaker 5: you know how we do it.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 5: If it's a crowd, the niggas around you slipping fall,
Speaker 5: we gonna point laugh, you know, like I don't mean
Speaker 5: nothing by it, but nigga, you feel it's funny.
Speaker 1: Is a motherfucker and ship you know you gotta.
Speaker 3: Get over it.
Speaker 5: Motherfucker you're supposed to be ever, like we always say,
Speaker 5: you gotta be able to play ship out you get me.
Speaker 5: Damn fuck it, nigga. He's supposed to throw up his
Speaker 5: hands to go, I got my ass kicks, you got it,
Speaker 5: you get it. But to walk off and be like
Speaker 5: I quit that just you know, it just goes to
Speaker 5: show you're not built for certain shit you feel see.
Speaker 6: And I think that come with us, like like it
Speaker 6: just come with the backgrounds, like you gotta think us
Speaker 6: we coming from a from a street background. So that's
Speaker 6: why it was so easy for me to navigate through it,
Speaker 6: cause it's like, oh man, what's the worst. Then they
Speaker 6: gonna say something like man, we coming from ducking shots
Speaker 6: and all kind of shit, like oh he finla. He
Speaker 6: can say whatever you want to say this dude, I
Speaker 6: don't even believe it, like you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Like he can say he could get up here for
Speaker 6: we finish. You finna pay me to call this nigga
Speaker 6: a bunch of shit that I really can say that,
Speaker 6: I can really feel bad about this dude. And I
Speaker 6: could just listen to him say some shit real quick,
Speaker 6: and I know the people that came with me know
Speaker 6: everything you saying is made up, it's lies, it ain't real.
Speaker 1: You don't got nothing to stand on it, I think.
Speaker 6: But some people, when you get to attacking them, now,
Speaker 6: if it is real and it's hitting you now, you
Speaker 6: can see the reaction like damn, like oh shit, he
Speaker 6: said something that that hurt me. Like that's why in
Speaker 6: battle rap it's tough because certain things that you say
Speaker 6: might not it might not even affect the crowd, but
Speaker 6: it's affecting the person that you're talking to for sure.
Speaker 6: Now that's affecting them when it's time for them to wrap,
Speaker 6: because usually you want to if you ain't got the
Speaker 6: skill of rebuttering or you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: I say something about what you got on right now
Speaker 6: you want to be able to get back on me, like, man,
Speaker 6: this costs more than the.
Speaker 1: Ship you got on.
Speaker 6: And if you ain't that dude, I'm talking about what
Speaker 6: you got on and you deep down really feel like
Speaker 6: this all you could afford, you broke. Now when it's
Speaker 6: your time to wrap, you you choking up like that.
Speaker 6: It's secure, you know what I'm saying, a lot of
Speaker 6: these dudes deal with that.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying fuck a lot of dudes up.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 4: Let me ask you this, though, bro, the Math off
Speaker 4: of dude was known for punching niggas. He was known
Speaker 4: for punching niggas out, yeah, straight up and then the
Speaker 4: homely disaster from out here shout out, you know, I
Speaker 4: know this did stole on him out here. How would
Speaker 4: you react being from Compton, A nigga put his hands
Speaker 4: on you, Because I've seen niggas get brutal shout out
Speaker 4: to the.
Speaker 3: Home why is that?
Speaker 5: Is it because they can't take the heat they started
Speaker 5: throwing punch you.
Speaker 4: I don't know why Math was punching on niggas.
Speaker 3: Though, ain't getting too personal.
Speaker 1: What was it on the times when Math hit dudes?
Speaker 6: I think the first one was like the most notable
Speaker 6: one was what to do with adults or whatever? And
Speaker 6: he had his hat like this and he rapping and
Speaker 6: hat like on his nose, damn near and I think
Speaker 6: he says something like man like, get out my face
Speaker 6: type ship dude on the back up he swinging on
Speaker 6: eim or whatnot.
Speaker 1: So with that I would say this with me, I'm
Speaker 1: not going for it anyway.
Speaker 6: You put your hands on me in a batter counsel Christmas,
Speaker 6: we fucking you going, it's going It's gonna keep going.
Speaker 1: On like it's safe to provoking. It's going up.
Speaker 6: But I think you have to understand in battle wrap,
Speaker 6: you gotta still be able to like and math grew
Speaker 6: from that for years. I don't want to keep that
Speaker 6: on him because he done had a lot of battle
Speaker 6: since then where he ain't put his hands on nobody
Speaker 6: in him and DearS they you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: That that how that situation played. I was unfortunate, But
Speaker 6: for the most part, you gotta understand, like it's it's
Speaker 6: unwritten rules. It's like you can you can rap, you
Speaker 6: can say what you want to say about the motherfucker,
Speaker 6: but you shouldn't be touching nobody and no battle like
Speaker 6: it ain't no reason for me to be battling And
Speaker 6: then I'm.
Speaker 1: Grabbing you and doing all this because you.
Speaker 6: Know what I'm now at this point, Like you know,
Speaker 6: I'm like, if I'm not gonna let you grab me
Speaker 6: in no conversation, I'm not gonna let you grab me
Speaker 6: on stage. You know what I'm saying that certain battles
Speaker 6: have rapports with each other, Like you know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying where they might have that conversation like, look, we're
Speaker 6: gonna get a little physical, like you gonna you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, But they understand it, ain't they about
Speaker 6: But if you don't got that rapport with somebody, of
Speaker 6: course it's gonna go left. But you gotta think. Now,
Speaker 6: a lot of these dudes is peers. They've been knowing
Speaker 6: each other for years. They do in state to state,
Speaker 6: place to place, doing shows together, so they know each
Speaker 6: other at this point where it's like, you know, if
Speaker 6: you battle, Let's say, who Kupmak from the Battle Active.
Speaker 6: Active is known for the pocket check, So I'm not
Speaker 6: saying when he do the pocket check it ain't real.
Speaker 6: But if you've been battling with him, you know that's
Speaker 6: his move. He might go for He might go for
Speaker 6: it though, because if if krip Mak pay attention to battles,
Speaker 6: you know, that's what Active do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, So.
Speaker 4: I don't know Meigg. It's a rapper though, Quip mank
Speaker 4: got an album coming up. Oh shit, word doing this
Speaker 4: is in the process of recording the album right now.
Speaker 4: This battle might be a crazy might putting out this
Speaker 4: ship man, You gotta think about it. Dog, Crip Mac
Speaker 4: has a fan base. When you look at this metrics,
Speaker 4: I get all that, but see see this is where
Speaker 4: if you can get two percent of them, people by
Speaker 4: all want to get a plack up in this motherfucker.
Speaker 5: Now, c when you say ship like that, that fucks
Speaker 5: with a nigga like me, man, like a real artist,
Speaker 5: man who's been putting out records. Now you want to
Speaker 5: tell me like, like, my nigga can get a platinum
Speaker 5: record off of.
Speaker 1: What man being Crip, My nigga off a content off
Speaker 1: of fucking off.
Speaker 4: Nothing more than Krip Mac.
Speaker 1: Game change. So that's what that's like.
Speaker 4: You don't change my nigga going to paint your hair blue,
Speaker 4: pink your beard.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you something.
Speaker 5: First off, I'm not a fucking gimmick, straight up, you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying. I don't advertise being from the hood.
Speaker 5: But niggas know what it was. If you it was
Speaker 5: what it was like I've always learned and was taught
Speaker 5: from an early age. Niggas wasn't flamboyant, and we wasn't
Speaker 5: you know, we wasn't flashy and flossy, and it wasn't
Speaker 5: all like nowadays, Like, man, come on, man, I'm really
Speaker 5: I'm I'm real curious man, because every like he's finna.
Speaker 1: Really battle rapper niggas.
Speaker 5: Yeah, Nigga's finna be digging in like like Nigga back
Speaker 5: in grade school, you was this and you come from
Speaker 5: here and.
Speaker 6: I want to gainst active actor from Grape Street. He
Speaker 6: been doing this for a long time? Is this you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying?
Speaker 3: Is this a publicity stuff?
Speaker 4: You know what? Man? I don't know? You know what I.
Speaker 5: Mean, because who chose Who's who chose that?
Speaker 1: Who chose this? Like who said this.
Speaker 6: League is a lust wanted disaster league gt X, You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So it's a publicity stuff.
Speaker 6: So that's you feel like, I mean, you had to
Speaker 6: be at least disaster because it's his league, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Probably, like you know, initiated it.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: I ain't with I ain't with No don't think he
Speaker 5: could do it though, like he Man, I'm.
Speaker 4: Is a real purist dog doing that at all? Man,
Speaker 4: it's a hip hop.
Speaker 6: Don't get he'll did he get up there and do
Speaker 6: nothing with I ain't gonna lie better rap for me,
Speaker 6: I'm the same way with it, Like I don't know
Speaker 6: if like what it's like.
Speaker 5: To just go the fuck off. Man really just stopped
Speaker 5: ahead stage right now.
Speaker 1: Five because oh.
Speaker 6: What hey, but that But that's what I'm saying, want
Speaker 6: against his real battle this world today.
Speaker 1: Man, But he going against a real better repper, That's.
Speaker 5: What I'm saying, Like, because you already know that's just
Speaker 5: like putting butter Bean up against Mike Tyson and ship.
Speaker 5: You get me, it's a fucking my nigga from Grape
Speaker 5: is gonna you know, he's a fucking veteran.
Speaker 4: Like, do you banking on what the promoter is banking
Speaker 4: on Butterbean possibly catching one and slipping one in?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 5: No, you you and we talking about people are and
Speaker 5: win them all. Man, Now you now you join Now
Speaker 5: you are one. Now you joining the motherfucker. You joining
Speaker 5: the motherfucker. You joining the motherfucking ranks of all these
Speaker 5: other motherfuckers. You cannot be serious to say, oh, he's
Speaker 5: banking on butter Bean and catching What are you fucking kiddy?
Speaker 4: Means to me, this is the philosophy, right, This.
Speaker 5: Is niggas gotta stop with this internet ship man.
Speaker 4: The philosophy. Hey, this is the philosophy right here. We
Speaker 4: are expecting Mike Tyson to beat the fuck up burder Bean.
Speaker 4: That happened, people gonna be entertaining. They gonna go home.
Speaker 4: But Butterbean fucking around and get lucky and throw awkward
Speaker 4: ass punching hit Mike is certain way and not Mike
Speaker 4: on the canvas. Niggas go be like, oh my god,
Speaker 4: you know what niggas gonna You know what nigga's gonna say.
Speaker 4: You know what niggas gonna say. No, know what niggas
Speaker 4: gonna say when that happened, set up, set up, set up?
Speaker 4: Oh ship, really, but do you.
Speaker 1: Think that's like fair?
Speaker 6: I'm saying you think that's unfair to like somebody like
Speaker 6: an active then like if if he going in with
Speaker 6: the landscape. But like, all this dude gotta do is
Speaker 6: say something that's halfway decent and now it is over
Speaker 6: exclstead exploited.
Speaker 4: Let's yeah, let's say Krip walk up that motherfucker spit
Speaker 4: the most eloquent, poetic gangster ship in the world.
Speaker 5: Niggas like, oh my god, when the niggas still be
Speaker 5: killing me?
Speaker 1: Man?
Speaker 5: Why niggas still be killing me, man, you love to
Speaker 5: ride that motherfucker that that motherfucking butchatical bull. You like that,
Speaker 5: but you like to get up there and ride that
Speaker 5: motherfuck You'll ride that mother will this nigga still be
Speaker 5: like krip Back for to get up there. Nigga like nigga.
Speaker 5: He fit to killing nigga.
Speaker 4: Man, he might my nigga. You know, fucking with a
Speaker 4: nigga like me, you gonna pay twenty nine ninety nine
Speaker 4: watching the nigga.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna set up the motherfucking crip mac big steel
Speaker 5: fucking battle.
Speaker 1: Is he gonna serve you? No?
Speaker 3: I want to hear, nigga.
Speaker 5: I'm setting it up, Brian nigga, big steal, motherfucking crip
Speaker 5: back battle rap nigga who goes serve? Who is he goes?
Speaker 5: Now put yourself in the same shoes you just said.
Speaker 5: Butter Bean fit the cume He to catch you.
Speaker 4: Nigga.
Speaker 5: You finn to be sitting on the ground. Nigga, they
Speaker 5: gonna beat you.
Speaker 7: Would not happen a correct crip back your rap hey, Man,
Speaker 7: look at he stuck crip hey and you battle rap
Speaker 7: you leagues whatever I want it set up the gangster
Speaker 7: raps battle Crip Mac and Big Stick.
Speaker 6: Hell, we can make a heaven man, Crip back and
Speaker 6: still live said, he's surface. Yeah, he's like making heaven.
Speaker 4: I'm with it.
Speaker 1: They got that.
Speaker 5: We put these God got a got got a motherfuck
Speaker 5: got got a motherfucking family pack of cock. Gosh, nigga,
Speaker 5: the fucking six pack right down, niggak.
Speaker 4: We're doing there, nigga.
Speaker 5: Yeah, what you want your ship extra spicy a mile
Speaker 5: Niggas see with me.
Speaker 4: I don't want no chicken, my nigga, I don't want
Speaker 4: no beer. Some need some increments. I need some increments.
Speaker 3: Know that this is the fun.
Speaker 5: This is public this is a publicity stuff motion. I'm
Speaker 5: not I'm fifty years old to ranking no better ship.
Speaker 5: I'm not trying to wrap nigga. Sit up here and
Speaker 5: tell me, Hey man, I give you five thousand years,
Speaker 5: you got you, you gonna get it.
Speaker 4: You get back on the ship. Though, this actually raises
Speaker 4: into a good point. Dog, when does it come disrespect
Speaker 4: for motherfucker stepping into your ring? You know you say
Speaker 4: you played all the dudes don't pay money to get
Speaker 4: the shows. You're taking this shit serious. And there's some
Speaker 4: other nigga coming out here and that's not no disrespecting.
Speaker 4: Nobody was trying to do this ship. But you see
Speaker 4: ship like that, you're like, man, that nigga don't give
Speaker 4: my blood swiating tears this ship and these niggas are here
Speaker 4: playing with this ship.
Speaker 6: Nah yeah, Nah, that's definitely you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: it's because it is it's looked at like that, like you.
Speaker 1: Have to at least take the craft serious for show.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I think it's the It's the same way like he said,
Speaker 6: man being the purest and hip hop. If you just
Speaker 6: see somebody that's making an album, making a record and
Speaker 6: you're like, man, this dude ain't really taking the craft serious.
Speaker 6: He ain't really writing his own ship. Like you know
Speaker 6: that that's frowned up on.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean. You ain't writing your own ship.
Speaker 4: You don't.
Speaker 1: You don't really got know the ship you write rapping
Speaker 1: ain't really you. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: All this shit is make believe. So it's the same
Speaker 6: way coming into like the battle arena. If it's something
Speaker 6: like you just coming and playing with the niggas who
Speaker 6: do this twenty four seven, they gonna be like man,
Speaker 6: what is this like, you know what I'm saying, Because
Speaker 6: that's a check that could have went to somebody who
Speaker 6: really do this, you know what I'm saying. So that's
Speaker 6: just any way you're gonna look at it like, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. So I feel like, whenever you
Speaker 6: get into anybody arena, you gotta really take that craft series,
Speaker 6: really prove that you really you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: That that's not just no no fluke thing, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. I think a lot of times that's
Speaker 6: why when the main stream artists who do come and
Speaker 6: get into it, a lot of the times the real
Speaker 6: issue be like they did.
Speaker 1: Some one and done shit. They just showed up one time,
Speaker 1: got on, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: The ones who end up getting loved be the dudes
Speaker 6: who like, now, they tried it one time, but they
Speaker 6: came back again to like really see if they really
Speaker 6: can do it, you know what I'm saying, and stuck
Speaker 6: with it, you know what I mean, because they like,
Speaker 6: fucking I fell on my face on that first one,
Speaker 6: but I'm gonna do it again, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I think that's kind of the difference. If you
Speaker 6: really see somebody that's really serious with it and they
Speaker 6: really taking this shit like like you know, this is
Speaker 6: what they want to do, then you know, nigga.
Speaker 1: Gonna have to respect it. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: For sure, it is like on some game banging shit,
Speaker 6: you see a nigga that just want to bang the
Speaker 6: hood some shit just because it looked cool. But then
Speaker 6: it's like, h nah, he coming to the hood. He
Speaker 6: hanging out here a participant. Now it's like, okay, it's cool,
Speaker 6: we believe you. Now, yeah, he real gaz, He a
Speaker 6: part of this shit, and he ain't just pop up
Speaker 6: because it's a funeral or hood day real quick to
Speaker 6: throw the shirt, don't take the pictures with the homies
Speaker 6: and leave. You know what I'm saying, He can't to
Speaker 6: really fuck around. It's the same way, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying, Like you gotta really show niggas that you're
Speaker 6: really doing this. So yeah, battle rappers just like that. Man,
Speaker 6: they want to see a motherfucker take this shit for real.
Speaker 4: Hell yeah, you gotta take it serious right now. Man,
Speaker 4: as far as your battles, man, have you ever had
Speaker 4: to walk there and destroy somebody you looked up to.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I don't battle some of my favorite battlers, man, Like,
Speaker 6: like one of my favorite battles that I have, I
Speaker 6: won't even say I destroyed even because I felt like
Speaker 6: it was a good battle. I felt like I got it,
Speaker 6: but I definitely felt like it was a good battle.
Speaker 6: Like one of my favorite battlers was like Arsenal, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Arsenal saying Arsenal. Yeah, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, real disrespectful. He's been doing it for
Speaker 6: a long time. So that was like one of the
Speaker 6: battles when I like getting ready for that battle, like oh,
Speaker 6: like damn, Like this is a nigga. Who would I
Speaker 6: used to watch this shit. I used to see this
Speaker 6: nigga talk crazy, say the craziest shit to.
Speaker 1: A nigga, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So when I finally got that battle, that was one
Speaker 6: of them, like one of those moments for me like okay,
Speaker 6: like like I know I'm really in this ship right now,
Speaker 6: like you know what I'm saying. Like though I battled
Speaker 6: a lot of niggas, that battle right there was the
Speaker 6: one where I knew like, yeah, I'm I'm in the
Speaker 6: ring with the niggas who really do this shit.
Speaker 4: You know, all right, I'm a name. I'm gonna say
Speaker 4: a few rappers that you have battle, yeah, and I
Speaker 4: want you to tell me what you feel the bottle
Speaker 4: murder moot.
Speaker 1: Murder, moo murder moo mook a legend.
Speaker 6: I ain't gonna now that battle right there specifically was
Speaker 6: in New York. I felt like I won that battle.
Speaker 6: But I but I say the consensus. I felt like
Speaker 6: he got the battle because he was at home.
Speaker 4: And you know, I was gonna ask you, is like,
Speaker 4: did you feel that element there? Man?
Speaker 3: Like, think of this New York. We're not gonna let
Speaker 3: you walk out of here with that.
Speaker 6: I understood it before I went out there, because I
Speaker 6: just battled the loaded Lux who also from New York,
Speaker 6: and he came to Cally and battle me. So when
Speaker 6: he came out here, I got him, and I felt
Speaker 6: like it's just like one of them things. It's like
Speaker 6: a motherfucker come to your yard and and you whip
Speaker 6: his ass. Now you go over there, They're like, Noah,
Speaker 6: we we can't let him win over here.
Speaker 4: So I say, ain't be doing that. Man. That was
Speaker 4: my second nigga. I was gonna give you.
Speaker 6: Yeah, you know, loaded Lux came to Lord of Luz,
Speaker 6: came to me. Yeah, Loaded Lux came to me, came
Speaker 6: to Kelly. I feel like I got that one. So
Speaker 6: I battled Muk after that. So I and Muk is
Speaker 6: a like I say, not only a legend, but he's smart.
Speaker 6: So like when I the most credit, I give him this.
Speaker 6: He knew how to play the optics of the game too, Like,
Speaker 6: so me battling there, he painted the picture already a
Speaker 6: West versus East on the stage, like he made him
Speaker 6: pick a side. As the raps going on, like, yeah,
Speaker 6: you know why I don't like this nigga. It ain't
Speaker 6: cause no beef. That's something real with me. It's cause
Speaker 6: he from the same city that killed Biggie's on that
Speaker 6: I was like everybody in that motherfucker like, how we
Speaker 6: gonna cheer for this nigga?
Speaker 1: And we love big you know what I'm saying. So
Speaker 1: it's it's already like put him.
Speaker 6: On and put him in between a rock and a
Speaker 6: hard place, like it don't matter how dope he is.
Speaker 1: Nah, man, you heard what Mook said. Man, that's right.
Speaker 6: We can't we can't give it up to a nigga
Speaker 6: that he's from the same city that took one of
Speaker 6: our legends.
Speaker 1: Like it ain't personal.
Speaker 6: I ain't like he trying to kill me physically in
Speaker 6: that motherfucker said It was no tension like that, But
Speaker 6: it's enough to where it's like, damn ah, now fuck that.
Speaker 1: You're right, you know what I'm saying, Like we're rocket
Speaker 1: where he shifts it.
Speaker 6: Shit, that's and that's being a veteran knowing enough to like,
Speaker 6: if I say certain shit, now I got the crowd
Speaker 6: with me and take it from him he got.
Speaker 1: Now I gotta fight even harder. Now I gotta get
Speaker 1: up there and say something with it. Don't matter what
Speaker 1: you say.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: I got dare to be like a biggie my cousin.
Speaker 3: You look at Mama.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, Nigga, mom, where we go exactly?
Speaker 3: You feel me?
Speaker 5: So that was one of those. But what is what
Speaker 5: is is a legend? What is the ultimate goal for
Speaker 5: the battle rapper?
Speaker 6: Okay, I feel like speaking to me, my ultimate goal,
Speaker 6: Like I feel like I've kind of reached it, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying as far as like, you know,
Speaker 6: just getting to the top of this field out of
Speaker 6: won like multiple like awards of being the number one
Speaker 6: battle Rapper of the year multiple years in a row.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Like I say, like my goal was was kind of
Speaker 6: pretty much regions to be solidified to where if I
Speaker 6: stopped today, it's like you can't tell the story of
Speaker 6: battle rap without like bringing up geechee gotta you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. Like, So that was my goal to
Speaker 6: where when you get to talk about legendary figures in
Speaker 6: that sport, in that realm, my name gonna be brought
Speaker 6: up when you talk about a one top battles and
Speaker 6: battles of the year, like views numbers all that. It's like, nah,
Speaker 6: I remember, yeah, he you know what I mean. You
Speaker 6: could us a conversation, you know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 6: I'm a part of that. So I think the goal
Speaker 6: for everybody should be something like that. It's like any
Speaker 6: sports you will, like if you're playing basketball, you want
Speaker 6: to be amongst that top fifty.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. You want to be you
Speaker 1: want to be in that Hall of fame.
Speaker 6: You want to be able to wear motherfucker, can you
Speaker 6: got something to stand up on with You know what
Speaker 6: I mean when they talk about the sports you was in.
Speaker 6: You want of the names that that get remember you
Speaker 6: know what I mean with the lights your jersey hung up,
Speaker 6: you know, So that's really the gold.
Speaker 3: I feel like battle rappers get their recognition.
Speaker 6: I feel like it's getting there now, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I feel like it's getting there now, Like
Speaker 6: you're starting to see more of them, like you see
Speaker 6: on wild'n Out You got three folk five battle rappers
Speaker 6: on there from clips hit Man Hower Conceded and see
Speaker 6: Sharon Like these dudes is on TV. You know what
Speaker 6: I mean weekly like off of their skill in battle rap.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like you're seeing that you are,
Speaker 6: You're starting to see more battle rappers do songs with
Speaker 6: mainstream artists like Freeschool Server.
Speaker 4: We seen him.
Speaker 6: Songs from Misi Jada on down Like dudes doing features
Speaker 6: with these cats, you know what I'm saying, dudes working
Speaker 6: with them. So I think now, like I say, the
Speaker 6: sport is getting a little more light on it to
Speaker 6: the point where people are starting to, like, you know what,
Speaker 6: like no dudes for not just being battle rappers, but
Speaker 6: that's the field they knowing from you got math how
Speaker 6: for like you brung up he got one of the
Speaker 6: top podcasters.
Speaker 1: In the world. Now, you know what, I'm still all
Speaker 1: off a battle.
Speaker 5: Rap seeing that it's like the fiftieth year anniversary of
Speaker 5: hip hop whatever? Do you feel battle rappers should be
Speaker 5: recognized in that field as well?
Speaker 4: Man? I just think it's hip hop expands. It's just
Speaker 4: a part of the culture.
Speaker 5: So you know, you y Lane, and then you see
Speaker 5: what all these lists they do, So why don't you
Speaker 5: compile a list? Since you really know battle rapping and
Speaker 5: you really into it, why don't you compile a list
Speaker 5: of what you feel is the greatest top fifty battle rappers.
Speaker 4: You know what, if I was gonna put a list
Speaker 4: like that together, I think stuff like that, man, is
Speaker 4: all because it's.
Speaker 5: Been around for It's been around for how many how
Speaker 5: many years?
Speaker 4: What you say? Shit? Battle rap been around since the
Speaker 4: beginning of hip hop?
Speaker 5: Okay, so it should be it should be significant battle
Speaker 5: rappers who you know gets the recognition, you know, just
Speaker 5: like we're doing with And I don't even say that
Speaker 5: shit for myself because you know, you see motherfucker's contemplate
Speaker 5: all they made this list how come you ain't here
Speaker 5: and they ain't got your shit here? And I never
Speaker 5: trip off a shit like that. But you don't never
Speaker 5: see that field considered in the gal of regular and
Speaker 5: not just saying regular hip hop. You don't see like
Speaker 5: when motherfucker's mention motherfuckers are mentioned. You know this nigga
Speaker 5: was a lyricist, or Cube was, or Biggie or Wooter.
Speaker 5: You wo motherfucker, don't never go, what's my nigga battle rapping?
Speaker 5: He was killing motherfuckers? You feel what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You know, any list I would ever be involved with
Speaker 4: would definitely have to be some would have to be subjective.
Speaker 4: It wouldn't be just based on what I think. So
Speaker 4: what I would do if I did put a list together,
Speaker 4: we ever start putting together list, we would have a
Speaker 4: panel to pass back the cats for us to make
Speaker 4: sure that it's one hundred face. Scar to me is
Speaker 4: one of the greatest scarfaces. This dude right here you
Speaker 4: should have You want to coolgie relation mothers a long time.
Speaker 4: When I when if I have my list of top
Speaker 4: gangster rapper rappers ever and I'm putting together top five,
Speaker 4: it's gonna be ice Cube. It's going to be m
Speaker 4: C eight. It's going to be cool g rap It's
Speaker 4: gonna be I say, Scarface already, I played Scarface. I
Speaker 4: will want to put all the ghetto boys up in there.
Speaker 4: But if I have the final, the final two, Spice
Speaker 4: one and probably Big Mic like that, you on that
Speaker 4: Big Mike. Big Mike was a hard motherfucker. Big Mike
Speaker 4: was one of the motherfucker most legendary gangster. I'm talk
Speaker 4: about niggas, then cound really spit, Yeah, I ain't talking
Speaker 4: about niggas. Is just out there talking about gunning niggas
Speaker 4: down and how much dope they code. And I always
Speaker 4: have to give an honorable mention. And I know a
Speaker 4: lot of people might hate this. I wouldn't put him
Speaker 4: in the top five, but he would be right in
Speaker 4: my top teen outside of it. Rick Ross, Rick Ross
Speaker 4: a bad motherfucker with the top you know what you
Speaker 4: gotta Ross in that top five to Ross is in
Speaker 4: the pantheon, a rap dog, a rap. I wouldn't say
Speaker 4: that would be disrespectful to people like him, the Cube
Speaker 4: and all that, just to say, okay, right there, but
Speaker 4: Ross is definitely in that thing. Ross has incredible wordplay
Speaker 4: and he survived in the tech from fifty cent. At
Speaker 4: that time when fifty cent was that nigga, fifty cent
Speaker 4: was just maul and niggas. Niggas was avoiding problems with him.
Speaker 1: Fifty one of the top gangster rappers too, though fifty
Speaker 1: is a whole.
Speaker 4: I think it's at that stuff. And you know what,
Speaker 4: I'm being real disrespectful right now, see that it's hard
Speaker 4: to compile a lists because I'm thinking about the nigga
Speaker 4: the game. Yeah, yeah, the game was a game. Was
Speaker 4: a rapping ass nigga Dog he could rap, dog. I
Speaker 4: listened rap though, like me.
Speaker 6: I feel like gangster rappers like am of course, like
Speaker 6: it's it's different gangsters in different regions and ship. But
Speaker 6: I feel like West Coast is gainst the rap, like
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like how trap music is
Speaker 6: South and you know what I'm saying, Like you know
Speaker 6: what I mean, Like every region got they they think.
Speaker 6: So it's like I feel like like a list of
Speaker 6: Gainst the rap for show like it gotta have West
Speaker 6: Coast heavy in that ship, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because they're the god for the the birthplace of it,
Speaker 6: like n w A all that that's you know what
Speaker 6: I mean rap, You know what I'm saying, that's what started.
Speaker 6: And then like you say, man, you go from the
Speaker 6: m c A so on down on up and just
Speaker 6: continued with that with that lane of like nigga, this
Speaker 6: is what we you know, I mean, like you can't
Speaker 6: you can't even be a gainster before you know, I
Speaker 6: mean the West, Like, you know what I mean, it's
Speaker 6: a game banging started that.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 4: That's the thing about rap period though, man, especially when
Speaker 4: it comes to certain genres like gangster rep like battle
Speaker 4: rappers and stuff like that. A lot of people that
Speaker 4: put these lists together, some of these dudes is twenty five,
Speaker 4: twenty six years old. To me, if you go put
Speaker 4: together list, your a has got to be at least
Speaker 4: thirty thirty five years Or if you would do this
Speaker 4: within the industry and on stage of shit, we might
Speaker 4: take you. But if you some motherfucker that don't went
Speaker 4: to Harvard and shit, and you your first hip hop
Speaker 4: experience was you listening to eminem and some shit like that.
Speaker 5: Basically, when they compile them lists, I think they should,
Speaker 5: like you said, with a panel, they got to have
Speaker 5: somebody who was at the forefront of the yester years
Speaker 5: of hip hop, somebody who knew hip hop from the beginning,
Speaker 5: so they could be included in those discussions. When you
Speaker 5: want to speak on the new stuff, you gotta have
Speaker 5: somebody to be like, well, wait a minute, so and
Speaker 5: so was doing this. Cool g Rapp was doing this.
Speaker 5: Fucking you know, Gang Star was doing this, Ghetto Boys
Speaker 5: was doing this, King T was doing this. You have
Speaker 5: to be able to have somebody to vouch for that, because,
Speaker 5: like you said, if you got motherfuckers who graduated fucking
Speaker 5: college four years ago, they not thinking about Grand Master Flash,
Speaker 5: They not thinking about UTFO and shit like that.
Speaker 3: They like shit, nigga.
Speaker 5: Old school to me is fucking like you said, Eminem,
Speaker 5: old school to me is fucking anything that happened in
Speaker 5: the two thousands and up.
Speaker 4: Feel me.
Speaker 5: You asks a lot of motherfuckers today what they consider
Speaker 5: old school hip hop, and they don't know shit past
Speaker 5: two thousand.
Speaker 4: I had to get reminded one day because you know,
Speaker 4: we got a radio show that we're doing too. So
Speaker 4: I was talking to the guy that's about to start
Speaker 4: putting our stuff in the syndication, and we pretty much
Speaker 4: thought of a new format. Dog it's pretty much a
Speaker 4: dope contemporary hip hop. No, okay, that's like a lane
Speaker 4: like you figure like the most recent song you may
Speaker 4: play from that is maybe a Hustling by Rick Mark Ross.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying. You might put a hustling
Speaker 4: in there something like that, but you would hear the
Speaker 4: hood took Me Under in that mix. And we go
Speaker 4: play these cats new records too, because they have new records.
Speaker 4: It's like the problem, that's the part of hip hop. Man,
Speaker 4: A big part of the problem with hip hop is
Speaker 4: this is that they give everybody an age limit. Everybody
Speaker 4: get a shelf life. Okay, this nigga's passed thirty five,
Speaker 4: so we not gonna play him no more, even though
Speaker 4: he's put out ten more records after that last one,
Speaker 4: we keep playing over over again. How come he don't
Speaker 4: deserve to get Honor Mintion, Honorable Mintion. This man got
Speaker 4: a banging ass new album. Why is West Coast Radio
Speaker 4: not playing it? You feel what I'm saying. And one
Speaker 4: of the things I did want to know with battle Rap,
Speaker 4: and you could tell it's progressing, is they've become better
Speaker 4: at actually making songs because it's some of them dudes
Speaker 4: that can write their ass off, but when it come
Speaker 4: to making a song, he's just like one long ass verse.
Speaker 4: Now the music you hear music from battle rappers that
Speaker 4: may sound a little West Coast, may sound trapped, and
Speaker 4: you like, damn that ship. You know that's him because
Speaker 4: meat meals. Didn't he come from the better rap world
Speaker 4: at rapping world?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 4: Like him better transferred over. He don't sound nothing like
Speaker 4: a nigga that would be a better rapper for real,
Speaker 4: for real.
Speaker 6: I think like now, like now everybody kind of is
Speaker 6: like in that in that realm, like you know, that
Speaker 6: was the that was the early stages, like that battle
Speaker 6: rappers can't make music, you know what I'm saying. Now,
Speaker 6: it's like, nah, that's that. That's stigma pretty much gone.
Speaker 6: Like dudes is really out here like putting together dope
Speaker 6: music really. But the issue I think is when you
Speaker 6: get set in a certain box that's kind of where
Speaker 6: people just want to see you at, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So it's like, so that's why a lot
Speaker 6: of times the goal was always to try to hurry
Speaker 6: up and get to making the music, because you get
Speaker 6: to doing battle rapping, that's all they want to see
Speaker 6: you do. Like you could be dropping, like you said,
Speaker 6: one of the best albums that's out, but it's like, oh,
Speaker 6: I mean with your next battle Like Nigga, Nigga just
Speaker 6: dropped this. You ain't heard this record, this video going,
Speaker 6: nah man, when you battling negs, I want because that's
Speaker 6: what they want to see you do.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: It's like motherfucking uh, Michael Jordan, this is usual him.
Speaker 1: For for instance, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I wanted he went to try to play baseball because
Speaker 6: what he wanted to do, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: But it's like, nah, I men, we gotta see you
Speaker 6: back on that court. It don't matter if he was
Speaker 6: knocking home runs out the park, if you would have
Speaker 6: been crazy and baseball wouldn't matter, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: Because it's like, nah, Nigga, like we we know you
Speaker 6: from balling, you know what I'm saying. So it's kind
Speaker 6: of like that in Battle Rap where ITA's like, now,
Speaker 6: dudes are really trying to like break through that thresholder
Speaker 6: like let me show y'all we can do music. You
Speaker 6: got a lot of artists that's out there in Battle
Speaker 6: rep that's making sure they putting albums out consistently, trying
Speaker 6: to you know, break that threshold so they not just
Speaker 6: stuck and just always having to do battlerap.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm sure, because you've worked on the album.
Speaker 1: Working on one right now.
Speaker 6: Man, I got an album coming out called Lumagatti, been
Speaker 6: working on it for a minute. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I just dropped some car out of Nowhere too a
Speaker 6: couple of months back.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I try to stay consistent with the music as much
Speaker 6: as I can too, just so I can, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, make sure I'm stay consistent in my
Speaker 6: fan base, you know what I'm saying, face with the music,
Speaker 6: so they ain't just stuck on it when your next battle,
Speaker 6: when your next battle is well, like you know, to
Speaker 6: where they like looking for the music, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying.
Speaker 1: So that's something I'll say.
Speaker 6: I was blessed with like being able to like have
Speaker 6: my podcast where I can talk about my music. I can,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I could keep my fans
Speaker 6: kind of engaged with what I do outside of just
Speaker 6: the battle rap. So like, yeah, man, I'm working on
Speaker 6: the album right now, Man, I called a Lumagatti I got.
Speaker 1: I got Beano on the on there. You know what
Speaker 1: I'm saying.
Speaker 6: I got records with r j Uh, Sue Surf, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, free him. Man, got got a
Speaker 6: production from j Nouri. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Uh, you know my.
Speaker 6: Guy Larry making all the heads, Larry j Jane, Larry Jane,
Speaker 6: bad boy, they got to dudes some of the coldest,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. Like, So like, yeah, man,
Speaker 6: I've been working, man, definitely standing staying in tune with that.
Speaker 6: So that's that's kind of like my goal like right
Speaker 6: now is to really make sure I put out the
Speaker 6: best music I could put out. Like like you said earlier, Man,
Speaker 6: it's especially trying to get get on the radio on
Speaker 6: the West and do all this shit is different, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, Like it's not as easy as
Speaker 6: as other reasons, like you know what I mean, like
Speaker 6: where they just got access. You know, we gotta we
Speaker 6: gotta fight a little harder to kind of get on.
Speaker 3: This is the number two market in the world.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we gotta play. You know, LA is the number
Speaker 4: two market in the world. It's kind of you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying, Yeah, as hard as you start on
Speaker 4: at the top.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying exact, Yeah.
Speaker 4: You're starting off at the top, you know. And I
Speaker 4: want to go back to something eight and said earlier.
Speaker 4: You are really a purist. I know you hang out
Speaker 4: with the likes of DJ Premiere and you know people
Speaker 4: like that in that category. Do you think it's fair
Speaker 4: of us? Sometimes it's so called elder statesmen, the gatekeepers
Speaker 4: to probably tell some of these dudes to qualify them, like,
Speaker 4: you're not qualified to be doing this.
Speaker 5: It's too much access now. Like when I started rapping,
Speaker 5: it was it was like it was a hard club
Speaker 5: to get in, you feel me. It wasn't accessible as
Speaker 5: it is just you know, just like with how they
Speaker 5: say the statistic the statistics are with kids who come
Speaker 5: out of high school looking to get a college scholarship.
Speaker 1: To play, it's a fucking gang of kids, you feel me.
Speaker 5: I looked at that number and they say, well, it's
Speaker 5: about maybe sixty thousand kids who get offered scholarships to
Speaker 5: go to college, but it's probably over a million fucking
Speaker 5: kids more than that. Bro who playing sports, who trying
Speaker 5: to get like you get me. It's an exclusive club
Speaker 5: where it used to be for me. When I first
Speaker 5: started rapping, it was hard as fuck to get a
Speaker 5: record deal.
Speaker 4: You get me.
Speaker 5: The gate keepers of the labels, they weren't letting you in.
Speaker 5: I don't give a fuck about that hip hop shit.
Speaker 5: No no, So it took niggas to break the gate open, right,
Speaker 5: So niggas like open the door a little bit, and
Speaker 5: then it still was like, Okay, y'all want to come
Speaker 5: in here. Oh, motherfucker, you got to be on point.
Speaker 5: You got you gotta be on point to be here.
Speaker 5: I mean, there was niggas like like I'm saying, you
Speaker 5: had niggas like Cube, You had niggas like rock Him.
Speaker 5: You had niggas like LLL, like niggas who specialized in lyricism.
Speaker 4: And it wouldn't nobody else liked them. It wasn't none
Speaker 4: to compare them. Niggas was the beginning.
Speaker 5: But nowadays, you know, and to each his own, hip
Speaker 5: hop is all over the place. Man, you know what
Speaker 5: I'm saying, there's you know, you could say like there
Speaker 5: should be you know, niggas the gatekeepers should go. Oh no, man,
Speaker 5: you gotta go back to the drawing board. Oh no, man,
Speaker 5: you gotta But how you gonna tell me that, nigga?
Speaker 5: When I can go in my kitchen and turn on
Speaker 5: my little computer with my microphone and put out whatever
Speaker 5: the fuck I want to And tomorrow it's tomorrow. It's
Speaker 5: on YouTube for the world to have, you know. And basically,
Speaker 5: now it's your opinion, because even though you might go
Speaker 5: this shit is garbage, there's somebody going this shit hard
Speaker 5: as a motherfucker.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you get me. We didn't have that back then.
Speaker 5: Everybody who went that's garbage went that's garbage. You didn't
Speaker 5: have motherfuckers going, well, hey man, I kind of like
Speaker 5: that garbage.
Speaker 3: You get me.
Speaker 5: Now it's open nigga, Your fucking ten year old kid'll
Speaker 5: be telling you, oh man, this shit is the fire
Speaker 5: right here me the most RinkyDink shit you ever heard
Speaker 5: in your life, and it's making your head hurting, you like,
Speaker 5: what the fuck is this? But then it's twenty fix
Speaker 5: fucking ten year olds loving that stupid shit. This music,
Speaker 5: this gear towards And that's what I'm saying. It's like
Speaker 5: an adult contemporary hip hop now because I listen to
Speaker 5: all hip hop and oldies. Yeah, so on my car,
Speaker 5: my playlist, you gonna hear ghetto bull Is. You go
Speaker 5: hear Akoolgie rap, You go hear m C eight, you
Speaker 5: go hear you know, just this plathorugh of different niggas
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 4: You not go hear the a lot of the newer shit.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna hear none of that new stuff. Like,
Speaker 4: I'm not gonna see it, even though I respect to
Speaker 4: young thug, it was very familiar this music. I'm not
Speaker 4: gonna sit with the listen of that. That's not my lane.
Speaker 4: You fee what I mean, It's not my lane. That's
Speaker 4: not my thing. So I think hip hop is splin
Speaker 4: it off in the different stuff now dog to wear
Speaker 4: that ten year old. I can't be mad at them
Speaker 4: because really that stuff we may think sound like garbage
Speaker 4: is actually keeping the hip hop tree alive. You know,
Speaker 4: it's a part of that.
Speaker 1: It's like it's just like I learned that too.
Speaker 6: It's just it's really what they generation dealing with, and
Speaker 6: that's and it is really the music that's speaking today time.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like, of course you Bobby
Speaker 6: not gonna get it, like you said, man being fifty
Speaker 6: somebody that's twenty right now doing they doing a whole
Speaker 6: different type of drug than a nigga was doing.
Speaker 5: Yeah, a motherfucker do a motherfucker add twenty. Want to
Speaker 5: hear some intelligent speech you getting Hell no, nigga, I'm
Speaker 5: perker setting out right now, Nigga. I want to hear
Speaker 5: niggas say some stupid ship like, motherfucking my asshole is
Speaker 5: this color? And I want to hear mother fucking say, Nigga,
Speaker 5: I want to hear what fuckers say.
Speaker 1: Jump off the roof and do some stupid ship.
Speaker 5: Nigga, take your gag, your motherfucker halucidative of drugs and
Speaker 5: we fucking bitches off of drugs and you don't.
Speaker 4: It's in our day. You was frowned to punt if
Speaker 4: you had about doing the drugs, if you was on
Speaker 4: cracking cocaine or something. Niggas like, nigga, you a smoker,
Speaker 4: Nigga head like you're straight up, you fucking dope.
Speaker 5: You're doing anything but weed. Nigga, You motherfucking dope here.
Speaker 5: And this was a gang of homies who was dipping
Speaker 5: them cigarette like.
Speaker 1: That in the hood. But you know, you're sure to
Speaker 1: hear nigga, Hey, we frowned, say something like that.
Speaker 5: I tell niggas all the savage and everybody say, what you.
Speaker 1: We just had a thirty two a savage.
Speaker 3: We just want to.
Speaker 5: I came from a different cold man. It's just different.
Speaker 5: It was just different. Man is like and the niggas
Speaker 5: is like, like they are they everything. They give me
Speaker 5: all that shit, nigga everything, nign just fuck me up,
Speaker 5: give it to me and then I'm a gonna make it,
Speaker 5: and then I'm gonna make a record off this shit,
Speaker 5: and you get me and people are influenced, and you
Speaker 5: just feel me. Younger generation look at us. Old elder says, man,
Speaker 5: you niggas don't know shit. I used to do the
Speaker 5: same thing when I was eighteen nineteen. You was thirty
Speaker 5: or forty. Niggas, you can't tell me shit, you old motherfucker.
Speaker 5: You don't know nothing. But then, like I said, you
Speaker 5: transition and you grow up one day and then motherfuckers
Speaker 5: that's doing that shit, hopefully they make it. They gonna
Speaker 5: be what we are one day and the motherfucker gonna
Speaker 5: be like Man, God damn, I used to say something.
Speaker 5: The stupidest shit I used to be telling niggas to
Speaker 5: get perked out and fucking lean doubt. And I used
Speaker 5: to do it. I destroyed the danger youth man without
Speaker 5: what's coming. Yeah, but you know it's like I said,
Speaker 5: it's the generation, the generational gap.
Speaker 3: You know. I I want to be a smart motherfucker.
Speaker 5: I want to be a dumb nigga, you feel me,
Speaker 5: even though I was hood, I want to be a
Speaker 5: smart nigga. I ain't want to be like a because
Speaker 5: they all looked at us as dumb niggas. Man, you
Speaker 5: feel me. We were all dumb niggas and and just
Speaker 5: to be able to now niggas look at you and
Speaker 5: you hold a conversation. Niggas look at you like damn
Speaker 5: motherfucker can speak, and the motherfuckers because they looked at
Speaker 5: us as dumb niggas to hear. But I didn't want
Speaker 5: to conform to the stereotype of what people thought niggas
Speaker 5: should have been coming from where we came from.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: A lot of niggas push that issue right now, like
Speaker 5: just dumb illiteracy type of motherfuckers like I don't get
Speaker 5: the decisions and whatever. And it's like niggas is living
Speaker 5: up to the stereo type of what people say hip
Speaker 5: hop rappers are supposed to be just dumb and lit.
Speaker 5: You see niggas is going to jail left and right,
Speaker 5: and you see niggas is doing shit just like God damn.
Speaker 5: I would have never done that shit like I would
Speaker 5: have never because we was taught different.
Speaker 3: We was taught at different code.
Speaker 5: I looked at old g's and the shit that they said, Nigga,
Speaker 5: you took the heat like nigga, you don't do this shit.
Speaker 3: You don't do this shit.
Speaker 5: You don't act this way, you don't do this shit,
Speaker 5: even though you hood.
Speaker 3: We just followed different cold.
Speaker 5: These the kids is lost today because a lot of
Speaker 5: their heroes are the are the rappers, and a lot
Speaker 5: of them are in different places than we was as youngsters.
Speaker 5: You give me a lot of youngsters wouldn't let us
Speaker 5: do dumb shit, man, you feel me. A lot of
Speaker 5: niggas cared about, you know, the way the hood looked
Speaker 5: and how it was represented.
Speaker 3: Nigga.
Speaker 5: We wasn't gonna be looked at as the dope head hood.
Speaker 5: Everybody over here smoked out and on sherm and everybody
Speaker 5: taking percosets and lead and all you get your ass
Speaker 5: taken advantage of dead back. Yeh, yeah, you know, it's
Speaker 5: it's a different time, man.
Speaker 4: One thing that surprised me about the day though, man,
Speaker 4: as a concern you know battle rap, is that it
Speaker 4: seemed like it's a lot of niggas into that shit.
Speaker 1: Doog.
Speaker 4: It's way more niggas not dogs. When I saw you,
Speaker 4: I said, Man, the Crypston'm infiltrated the battle rap.
Speaker 6: World because like, like he said, like it's still it's
Speaker 6: that pure r form you dig know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: It ain't got it like it got its weirdos in
Speaker 6: this in this goofballs like.
Speaker 1: Moments and shit.
Speaker 6: But for the most part, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: it's still it's still got that gutta.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, It still got that to it.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: Where motherfuckers is still keeping that that that integrity. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying, line like where nigga ain't crossing it.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Where it's still some structure
Speaker 6: involved in it. You know what I'm saying, Like the
Speaker 6: the the hierarchy or the Jesus who've been doing that
Speaker 6: shit for a minute and battle rap is still able
Speaker 6: to They still have some type of you know, they
Speaker 6: still got culture. It's still culture there, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So, like you say, now in hip hop,
Speaker 6: you cold, you can see the disconnecting the culture.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: You can see the disconnect from somebody that's just coming
Speaker 6: in the game to having respect for somebody that been
Speaker 6: in the game for a long time.
Speaker 1: That you know what I'm saying. Because you gotta think
Speaker 1: the tar's chain.
Speaker 6: They looking at it like, yeah, all right, when you
Speaker 6: started rapping, yr y'all probably was getting this. But now
Speaker 6: we coming in, we getting this much money. All I
Speaker 6: gotta do is do this thing right here. I only
Speaker 6: like you said, I don't even gotta go to the
Speaker 6: record label. Man, I can grab my phone, drop this
Speaker 6: on TikTok and the label come holler at me, ain' said,
Speaker 6: Because I done got a million views off of a
Speaker 6: thirty second clip of my song and everybody singing it
Speaker 6: and doing my dance. Now you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: I ain't. I ain't listening to no nigga, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So now it's as to disconnect and
Speaker 6: battle rap. It's like it's still like, nah, man, it ain't.
Speaker 6: It's only certain platforms that you're gonna be able to
Speaker 6: get that on. You know what I'm saying. It ain't. No,
Speaker 6: you're not gonna be able to just oh man, just today,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna just do my battle, me and you and
Speaker 6: we just make some money.
Speaker 1: Like nah, Like, it don't work like that. You know
Speaker 1: what I'm saying. You ain't gonna be.
Speaker 6: To just go on TikTok battle yourself and just get
Speaker 6: put on and get put on the battle of me.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Like, you know, it don't
Speaker 6: work like that. You know what I'm saying, Like, you
Speaker 6: got to really put something in, put some pain in it.
Speaker 4: You get a lot of the niggas come up to
Speaker 4: you when you're in traffic because you're a regular dude. Yeah,
Speaker 4: good dudes. When you walking through the Lakewood Mall somewhere,
Speaker 4: niggas come up in your face and start rapping.
Speaker 6: Now, I don't get no niggas rapping, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. Thank God, you know what I'm saying, because
Speaker 6: I ain't trying to even deal.
Speaker 4: With that of your face.
Speaker 6: I usually get a motherfucker that show a nigga I
Speaker 6: love though you love.
Speaker 3: That Lakewood Lake talking about that Lakewood.
Speaker 6: Mall love that.
Speaker 4: That's what niggas hang out at. I was personally frequent
Speaker 4: other established. But I know about that. I knew about that.
Speaker 5: My niggas still saying, I personally I frequent others.
Speaker 1: Back in the day. The Lakewood was the one. So't
Speaker 1: mad at you. It was backing that was the one.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but you don't get a lot of niggas.
Speaker 6: I'm probably not trying to rap, but I do get
Speaker 6: a lot. Like I say from my DMS, just in person,
Speaker 6: I'm always getting mother fuckers. Like I get a lot
Speaker 6: of love people that recognize me and you know what's
Speaker 6: up god d dah. But I probably get a lot
Speaker 6: of motherfuckers. That's like trying to like get booked on
Speaker 6: the league or something like, Yo, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: like he give me a shot, man, I mean let me.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying, like, yo, let me hear
Speaker 1: my battle footage.
Speaker 5: Something it hard to get into? Is it hard to
Speaker 5: get into and get established?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Hell yeah, I mean, like I think.
Speaker 6: Because it's so many battle rappers now though, like it's
Speaker 6: that ship, like it's like it probably when it first started, probably,
Speaker 6: like I said, you could point them out, you knew, like, okay.
Speaker 3: Mon, it first started, it was authentic.
Speaker 6: It was all you know, murder battle, Battle read dollars battle.
Speaker 6: You probably can name the thirty dudes. Who's getting oversaturated
Speaker 6: Now it's oversaturated. Man, it's battle.
Speaker 1: It's oversaturated. It's a thousand league.
Speaker 4: They posted somebody is making money doing something that appears easy.
Speaker 4: Niggas that niggas that have hustles and scamsit at home
Speaker 4: and say, man, I could do that ship. You see
Speaker 4: they just gave this nigga a million dollars. Next thing
Speaker 4: they do that's like.
Speaker 1: It's rappers, it's a million.
Speaker 4: Leads rappers, it's a million podcasts. Now. We were first
Speaker 4: established this stuff. We was kind of the first people
Speaker 4: doing what we were doing. The show has changed tremendously
Speaker 4: since that time. But I've seen a whole bunch of
Speaker 4: people come and go.
Speaker 6: Because everybody think that like take this for people think like, okay,
Speaker 6: let me get some camera to gets somebody's sit right here.
Speaker 1: We're finna get money.
Speaker 4: They just think we.
Speaker 6: Do two three episodes. I know some kind of it's
Speaker 6: sixty thousand in the text somewhere. Then they realize, like, nah, Nigga,
Speaker 6: you gots the really bigga. This this I don't know
Speaker 6: what you think Nigga's making on YouTube, but you got
Speaker 6: to work and work and work and work and work
Speaker 6: to even see a return on something, to even make something.
Speaker 1: The way you can keep the keep this shit going.
Speaker 1: A lot of this shit is the money you're putting in.
Speaker 6: Is when people realize that you gotta put your own
Speaker 6: money in to do that.
Speaker 1: That's when it's going back. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: We want to clarify some things when it comes to podcast,
Speaker 4: just for the people, like cause I get people ask
Speaker 4: me all the time, how do you do this and
Speaker 4: do that? And when you ask them, what they plan
Speaker 4: is like what's your plan? Well, I want to get
Speaker 4: a deal somewhere. It's like the music shitting. So this
Speaker 4: is what I tell them. I get people all the
Speaker 4: time to try to tell me what my numbers, Oh,
Speaker 4: that's why your show ain't doing this and that, and
Speaker 4: it's like I say, okay, reach a million motherfuckers a month,
Speaker 4: and so I listen to them and I talk to
Speaker 4: them and I say, what is it that you're trying
Speaker 4: to accomplish? I want to get a DLA. Okay, what
Speaker 4: I have to do? I got this camera, that camera,
Speaker 4: and I tell them, well, first of all, the podcast
Speaker 4: is really in its purest form, just audio. This is
Speaker 4: really a reaching that vent of us putting stuff on
Speaker 4: YouTube and all that stuff, You're reaching a whole different
Speaker 4: base of people, right, And so I get somebody excited.
Speaker 4: Hey man, I got a YouTube video that did three
Speaker 4: hundred thousand views. That's cool. So do a million other
Speaker 4: people if you can get your audio to a certain
Speaker 4: place to where you're getting a certain amount of listeners.
Speaker 4: Because people listening to metrics, there are a lot of
Speaker 4: things involved. How long somebody is listening to your show,
Speaker 4: the subscribe as you've got, the frequency of downs, the
Speaker 4: quality of that subscriber. See YouTube. I'm gonna tell you
Speaker 4: something about YouTube. The reason a lot of people don't
Speaker 4: get chests from YouTube is because the people that typically
Speaker 4: watch YouTube don't spend a lot of money that's not
Speaker 4: attracted through advertise. They would rather reach a million people
Speaker 4: dog that's going out to purchase something than two million
Speaker 4: people who ain't gonna buy shit, right, you know, five
Speaker 4: hundred million people that ain't go buy shit, So that
Speaker 4: audience is worth a lot more money, even though it
Speaker 4: may be in less amounts. I think we maybe got
Speaker 4: like maybe three hundred thousand subscribers or something like that.
Speaker 4: I didn't never have to go out and pich the
Speaker 4: Jameson chronicles nobody. I never sent nobody enoughing. People were
Speaker 4: calling me. They was calling us from Spotify, this company,
Speaker 4: from Ben's time, and this company. So I tell people,
Speaker 4: if you do what you do when you're good at it,
Speaker 4: somebody go reach out to reach out to you. Same
Speaker 4: thing that happened with you on your battle ret you
Speaker 4: was consistent in what she was doing. Did it happened.
Speaker 4: I never went into anything I made money off of.
Speaker 4: When I was in music, got made money as an executive.
Speaker 4: When I wanted to podcast, I made money. But I
Speaker 4: didn't jump in neither one of those ventures with the
Speaker 4: plans to make money. I did it because I just
Speaker 4: want to excel at it and be the best at it.
Speaker 4: So if you really strive towards perfecting your craft and
Speaker 4: being dope and some shit, the money is gonna come.
Speaker 4: I don't think you had to go out and look
Speaker 4: for a record deal, did you no?
Speaker 5: I basically you know, we started rapping, making demo tapes.
Speaker 5: Motherfucker heard it and there you go. That's what I'm saying. Man,
Speaker 5: All you gotta do is like sugar Free say, if
Speaker 5: you stay ready, you ain't got it wasning overnight, you get.
Speaker 1: It looked like sometimes you know, and sometimes.
Speaker 5: Motherfuckers do you know, you can see a motherfucker in
Speaker 5: the same position as you, and you'll look up and
Speaker 5: be like, damn, I've been doing this shit three years.
Speaker 5: This motherfucker came out three days ago and he where
Speaker 5: I've been trying to get in three days?
Speaker 3: You getting.
Speaker 5: But sometimes I just tell motherfuckers and I perfect example,
Speaker 5: I tell my son that ship all the time.
Speaker 3: Some of us.
Speaker 5: Get the ship overnight, but it's some of us who
Speaker 5: got the grind and work to get that overnight success too.
Speaker 5: You know me, I said, So, don't take it as
Speaker 5: any different. If you know, like you going to this school,
Speaker 5: but then the homie going to this school, you get me.
Speaker 5: It's grind might be a little smoother, but you still
Speaker 5: on the same road. You get me. You just got
Speaker 5: to start from a different place. And sometimes that make
Speaker 5: you a little more humbler when you got to grind
Speaker 5: a little harder.
Speaker 6: So that's that's all you feel me, But they don't
Speaker 6: think it. Sometimes the grind it looked like it be
Speaker 6: overnight because it's new to them, Like they ain't seeing you.
Speaker 1: But if you've been knowing, you've been working this whole.
Speaker 5: Time, man, please and nigga see you tomorrow. See you
Speaker 5: went from blue shoes to gray shoes, and be like, oh, nigga,
Speaker 5: you balling. Yeah, you know what I'm saying. You got
Speaker 5: the great jors today. Yesterday you had the blue ones on,
Speaker 5: and now you got the great ones on.
Speaker 3: Nigga, you balled.
Speaker 5: Niggas see perception of that because a lot of niggas
Speaker 5: don't understand the complications of trying to get to the grind,
Speaker 5: especially the niggas come from your normal settings or home.
Speaker 3: These up thereas like.
Speaker 4: Spend a lot of your own money, Like when y'all
Speaker 4: made these demos that y'all have, you gotta spend your money.
Speaker 5: You have to buy tape. We had to buy TDK tapes,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. We had to go out
Speaker 5: and buy records and ship the Nicks and do all
Speaker 5: of that. Look here, and we had seen years old
Speaker 5: and we had to pay for studio times.
Speaker 4: Shit.
Speaker 5: That shit wasn't free like it was, but it was
Speaker 5: just it was like and then niggas start like, you
Speaker 5: niggas as crazy as fuck. Y'all could be buying dope
Speaker 5: sacks and re upping and ship and you niggas going
Speaker 5: to the studio.
Speaker 4: Like when I first went the podcasting, the nigga told me, man,
Speaker 4: you're wasting your time. Don't nobody want to hear no
Speaker 4: niggas talking and doing all this and that? And I said, man,
Speaker 4: we go see. We can damn sure find out. And
Speaker 4: I spent a lot of money. Man. It's like, in
Speaker 4: order to get the show where it was at, dog,
Speaker 4: I was already like sixty thousand, Yeah, I was already
Speaker 4: sixty thousand then, man, because you gotta remember, I put
Speaker 4: the show together based on three different personalities, and sometimes
Speaker 4: I had to kick gas money in and there. All
Speaker 4: kind of shit is studio on top of studio time,
Speaker 4: you're trying to convince somebody to do some shit. Now
Speaker 4: you gotta start trying to put some money in their pocket.
Speaker 4: Yeah you know what I'm saying. So It's like it's
Speaker 4: a lot.
Speaker 6: That come with this shit. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: It's a lot munch of stress, man. You know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. I've seen some shit like this on Instagram
Speaker 6: where a nigga be like people be confused like having
Speaker 6: right because everybody like they got motion, but motherfucker be
Speaker 6: like having motion and having progress, Like I'm a fucker
Speaker 6: got emotion, but like motion is just I could be
Speaker 6: going like this, I ain't going nowhere, but I'm in motion.
Speaker 6: Nigga gonna be having no progress though, you know what
Speaker 6: im saying. Niggas ain't going forward, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So like he said, to be perception, moen fucker's be's
Speaker 6: looking at it one way, just thinking of this, but
Speaker 6: they don't know how much it takes to have progress
Speaker 6: with this shit, like you say, to have a strong team,
Speaker 6: like I done went through different co on my podcast.
Speaker 6: We had people meeting with all that shit, different location.
Speaker 6: You know, went through all that because motherfuckers don't like
Speaker 6: I ain't got that. You gotta have people that got
Speaker 6: that same vision that see it all the way through.
Speaker 6: Like nigga ain't gonna beat tomorrow, man, it ain't gonna.
Speaker 1: Be the next week.
Speaker 6: But by the time we get there, we're gonna be
Speaker 6: straight when we get to where we're going, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 1: But you got.
Speaker 6: It's just like today, you got to the days I
Speaker 6: got we talk about boy my boy. They got a
Speaker 6: podcast on my on my network. Man, we be dazed.
Speaker 6: I'll be like, I only feel like coming up here.
Speaker 6: So you got a network show, studio in network, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. We got the no studio on
Speaker 6: podcasts My boy, A D and T Money. They do
Speaker 6: the standing on business podcasts. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: They got their own channel as well. But they started off,
Speaker 6: you know, working on our network just to get their
Speaker 6: fan base up and get their viewership up. But they
Speaker 6: got the standing on business podcasts. And then of course
Speaker 6: I dropped like battles on my network and different stuff
Speaker 6: like that, you know what I'm saying. So yeah, but
Speaker 6: that's how we That's the goal of what I'm trying
Speaker 6: to do with the YouTube channels, to kind of just
Speaker 6: have different you know, like not just my podcast with
Speaker 6: somebody else podcast, somebody show, whatever they.
Speaker 1: Want to do, you know what I'm saying. Where it's
Speaker 1: kind of like, you know, like a network.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 4: That's where I took Digital Soapbox, like three four years ago.
Speaker 4: I saw where it was going, and I started hosting,
Speaker 4: you know, putting clips of other people's shows on the
Speaker 4: action YouTube chounds. And that went from me because I
Speaker 4: understood the audio, so I was putting audio out in.
Speaker 4: At one time, man Digital Soapbox had a roster of
Speaker 4: like twenty five shows. But what I saw was it
Speaker 4: became a roster of twenty five people with headaches. I
Speaker 4: didn't hear it twenty five more headedche because the first
Speaker 4: thing people would ask, they would hear one show, get
Speaker 4: an add How come we didn't get no reads. You
Speaker 4: need to start doing your job and get us some money.
Speaker 4: And it's like it just became a headache box, like
Speaker 4: you start letting motherfuckers going. I realized having three good shows, yeah,
Speaker 4: I would rather have one good show and you just say, okay,
Speaker 4: we're taking people as they go along and have twenty
Speaker 4: five headaches.
Speaker 5: Trying to trying to have thirty shows might look good,
Speaker 5: but then, like I said, you're gonna have the headaches
Speaker 5: of thirty when you really should just deal with two
Speaker 5: or three.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying now. So what I did is
Speaker 4: I condensed all of them shows down to the five
Speaker 4: shows that were just great. Sure was that really? Like? Yeah?
Speaker 6: And the ones who understood what y'all was doing, understand
Speaker 6: how to work with Big Court.
Speaker 4: He was down with us. Big Court came to me
Speaker 4: one day and say, hey, man, Revolte hollered at me, Man,
Speaker 4: go take that revolt deal. That's what that's what we're
Speaker 4: here for. That's the purpose of us doing this. All
Speaker 4: this deal is an incubator. This meant for you to
Speaker 4: go fly, brother, straight up. If I'm not ever man
Speaker 4: as man for establishing this independence, man, go do your thing.
Speaker 4: Anything helped, he asked me. He said, Man, need you
Speaker 4: to help me with this? And that no problem. Bro,
Speaker 4: still my boy to this day. That's my dog right then.
Speaker 4: You know, I'm proud of that. You know, but that's
Speaker 4: what it should be. And if you don't, because your
Speaker 4: team is only as good as its weakest link. If
Speaker 4: everybody around you, man is hanging on your shoulders. What
Speaker 4: happens when you hit a rough pack? Sw something happened? Dog?
Speaker 4: Shit do happen? Oh? Yeah, yeah, shit do happen? Dog?
Speaker 3: Everything and the motherfucking ir rest.
Speaker 4: To everyone everything starts. Yeah, yeah, it just happens. Sometimes
Speaker 4: you need to have you a nigga man that you
Speaker 4: can hear a man, yeah boy doing bad little reg in.
Speaker 1: The twenty Yeah, yeah, so I can get back to
Speaker 1: the next If you don't.
Speaker 4: Got cats around you trying to they should be trying
Speaker 4: to surpass you, but not in the negative when real talk.
Speaker 4: They should be trying to use you to say, okay, man,
Speaker 4: you know.
Speaker 1: What be able to get to where I'm at.
Speaker 6: So then if you, like you say, if you fall,
Speaker 6: I can you know what I mean, give you that
Speaker 6: olive branch this time to pull you back like that's
Speaker 6: and that's what this shit really supposed to be a
Speaker 6: But that's why even this conversation though though you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, because it went from so many different ways,
Speaker 6: but the ending where it's supposed to end, like you said,
Speaker 6: man on some like that's what's gangster like man.
Speaker 1: Dudes who come from a certain.
Speaker 6: Background, but now they able to tell these stories and
Speaker 6: give games. Somebody gonna watch this and don't start a podcast,
Speaker 6: but don't have the right mindset now because they're gonna
Speaker 6: be like Damn. Let me not go in that shit
Speaker 6: thinking straight money. Let me go in that motherfucking thinking
Speaker 6: about doing something.
Speaker 1: I actually wanted.
Speaker 6: Tom, I gotta stack bricks bricks first. Let me lay
Speaker 6: that foundation and all that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: before I get up and just be thinking I'm gonna
Speaker 6: be getting millions off of this.
Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying on the real.
Speaker 4: Before we go, Man, I'm gonna leave everybody out there
Speaker 4: just listening to us or watching us with some motivation. Yeah,
Speaker 4: you got three people up here now, man, who all had,
Speaker 4: you know, exceeded expectations for where they were supposed to
Speaker 4: be in life. Cause we all had people told us
Speaker 4: when we was kids we wouldn't go be shipped at
Speaker 4: one point. You started off where you started the city
Speaker 4: of Compton. You know, being born into a place like Compton,
Speaker 4: it's almost like being born with a monkey on your
Speaker 4: back immediately, because you know, odds are the odds increased
Speaker 4: if you live in Compton. Chances are you may get shot,
Speaker 4: Chances are you going to start some cripping, Chances are
Speaker 4: you gonna start some blood. This man come from the
Speaker 4: same place you from. I come from a place, man,
Speaker 4: where we dirt poor. When I came to California. I
Speaker 4: came out to this motherfucker seventeen years old with fifty
Speaker 4: dollars in my pocket. My nigga, I just turned seventeen
Speaker 4: three weeks before, with fifty dollars in my pocket and
Speaker 4: two pair of pants because they had stole my luggage.
Speaker 4: When I was I want to go, they stole my luggage.
Speaker 4: I look closed my mama, just my little teen shirts
Speaker 4: and shit she.
Speaker 5: Gave because skilled and got off the bus, my nigga,
Speaker 5: saying I had two pair of pants. Ticket. You called
Speaker 5: my mom, teell you, Mom said, baby, come on home.
Speaker 4: You know what.
Speaker 1: Your ass on the bus and get back off.
Speaker 4: A nigga was so poor we had to piece up
Speaker 4: the ticket. They used to sell plane tickets in the
Speaker 4: back of the newspaper back in the day, voltures three
Speaker 4: hundred dollars. I worked at this little Denny's dog for
Speaker 4: like all summer to save with them three hundred dollars, right,
Speaker 4: I bought that ticket, dog, and then I said the
Speaker 4: ticket with the foxer was the Vegas. We didn't have
Speaker 4: no internet to go Google, no ship back then, so
Speaker 4: I actually had to go to the library to figure
Speaker 4: out how far last Vegas was, so I had to
Speaker 4: coordinated to where I got. The motherfucking flew into Vegas
Speaker 4: with my volxuer, caught the fucking bus, had to walk
Speaker 4: out the long I'm so country. I don't realize the
Speaker 4: airport bigger than motherfucker. I'm thinking I'm just gonna get
Speaker 4: off of there and get to walk to a bus somewhere. Now,
Speaker 4: walked about two miles to go to a fucking bus.
Speaker 4: Us asking niggas like a weirdo would look at Jamiyah
Speaker 4: and a like where this nigga from the greyn. I
Speaker 4: turned my back for a minute to call my mama right,
Speaker 4: tell her, hey, I'm in Vegas right now, because she said,
Speaker 4: as soon as you get to where you all call me.
Speaker 4: So Mom's answered the phone, she crying, oh my baby
Speaker 4: is out there. I turned my back for a second.
Speaker 4: My main bag is my shoes, and that motherfucker all
Speaker 4: get a little bag. I got on my shoulders door
Speaker 4: that shit gone. This one nigga tell me man, because
Speaker 4: he just look. I'm just man, I'm a young nigga.
Speaker 4: I got tears from I'm like, what am I gonna do?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 4: So luckily I didn't have my motherfucking looked big change
Speaker 4: I had in there. Dog, I went ahead and got
Speaker 4: my bus ticket man a Long Beach, California, and ain't
Speaker 4: looked back, my nigga. I got down the Long Beach
Speaker 4: bus turned them down there, six miles from Long Beach
Speaker 4: City College where I'm supposed to be. Dog, I'm so
Speaker 4: dumb and ain't playing shit right right, So a nigga
Speaker 4: walked three miles to Long Beach City, right. But when
Speaker 4: I got there, my nigga, by the time I got there,
Speaker 4: the sun has start coming out. So I just sat
Speaker 4: on the stairs of the athletic of the athletic department,
Speaker 4: and I look, my nigga, I'm a nigga from Ohio,
Speaker 4: man from the motherfuckering east side of Cleveland. And I
Speaker 4: look up in the stars. See the palm tree. I say, nigga,
Speaker 4: I made it. It's some bigga said, I'm here no
Speaker 4: matter what the fuck.
Speaker 1: Happen, somewhere we wanted to be though.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I think about man where I'm at right now,
Speaker 4: my nigga. Sometimes I want to fucking cry and be like,
Speaker 4: God is fucking good man? Now, straight up, God is
Speaker 4: good man. I don't made a whole bunch of money.
Speaker 4: My nigga been placeds I never thought I was seeing.
Speaker 4: Don't met people, man, And sometimes you got to get
Speaker 4: smacked around to remember. Shout out to my nigga. Take it.
Speaker 4: He came out here a couple of months ago and
Speaker 4: he was just so like, man, my nigga. He just
Speaker 4: got the fit. He said, my nigga, you do a
Speaker 4: show with MC eight. My nigga, this nigga your friend,
Speaker 4: that nigga your friend. You doing this. You're looking at
Speaker 4: my little crib and shit, shit there you don't. And
Speaker 4: he's like, nigga, you did it, my nigga, I'm proud
Speaker 4: of you. This nigga got tears and this.
Speaker 3: I'm like, every everybody's success is what you make it.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: You ain't gotta be a billionaire and fly private jets
Speaker 5: to feel like you've accomplished something. You know, just the
Speaker 5: fact that you was nigga, I'm finna get up out
Speaker 5: of East Cleveland, That's what I'm saying me. And just
Speaker 5: the fact that I'm gonna get up out of here
Speaker 5: and go somewhere else and just establish a foundation.
Speaker 3: Is that's enough for some niggas. So that's why I say.
Speaker 5: You, you can't look at every other motherfucker's success.
Speaker 3: You gotta make your success your own.
Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 5: You gotta be comfortable with where you sit now. If
Speaker 5: you want more, you gonna go hard and go grind
Speaker 5: for more. But everybody you know who has come from
Speaker 5: a difficult motherfucking walk of life or poverty or niggas
Speaker 5: know what it's like for your parents to be on
Speaker 5: food stamps or you know, just low income or living
Speaker 5: in one of them areas. Just to be able to
Speaker 5: look up and say, damn, you know, I'm able to
Speaker 5: pay some bills. You know what I'm saying. My kids
Speaker 5: is cool, you know, and and it ain't got to
Speaker 5: go through the situations that I had to go through.
Speaker 5: You know, you can just count that up as being
Speaker 5: successful right there. You know what I'm saying. I tell them,
Speaker 5: motherfucker all day. Just for the fact that I got
Speaker 5: a kid and he ain't got no jail record, ain't
Speaker 5: got nobody pregnant or no or.
Speaker 3: He don't claim a gang.
Speaker 5: That's a lot that's successful a lot of us as niggas.
Speaker 5: You feel me, So that's it right there. Everything else
Speaker 5: is extra. My nigga, being able to motherfucking eat when
Speaker 5: you want to eat or smoke some good weed or
Speaker 5: or you know, that's that's all.
Speaker 4: Extra hey, man, So salute to you man for doing
Speaker 4: the most gangster shit ever. Man, establishing your own change,
Speaker 4: you know what I'm saying, Man, that's what this whole
Speaker 4: show is all about. Man, you know you made it
Speaker 4: my niggas. So any aspiring rappers looking to get on
Speaker 4: man with your league, what's your suggestion to them for
Speaker 4: their course action? Yeah?
Speaker 6: Man like yeah, So if you're an upcoming battle rapper
Speaker 6: and you're looking to try to get your chance to
Speaker 6: battle on the right, it's a few ways.
Speaker 1: We got an.
Speaker 6: Instagram, uh, the Ryan Rap battles on Instagram. You can
Speaker 6: d M the Instagram. I don't also run the page
Speaker 6: a few of us, so somebody gonna ask for at
Speaker 6: all times you DM. You know, it's a way to
Speaker 6: go about if it's your first battle ever. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, it's it's a it's a feed to
Speaker 6: start up to get your first battle on there, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. On the platform. But if you
Speaker 6: got footage and you already been in there, then yeah,
Speaker 6: you can send the footage in and we we we booked,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, Like, we got we got
Speaker 6: small events that we do kind of locally that we
Speaker 6: do out here in California, and then you know, you
Speaker 6: good enough, you make your name, you make it to
Speaker 6: the some of the bigger ones. We got a big
Speaker 6: event going on in Atlanta at King of Diamond's on
Speaker 6: a September the third. I'm gonna be battling this chain
Speaker 6: Coffee Brown. She got a Sam Bernardino. We got rum
Speaker 6: Nitty going against.
Speaker 4: Jazz the Rapper.
Speaker 6: Got a lot about about four, five, six other battles
Speaker 6: that's going down, you know, September the third, And a
Speaker 6: few of the cats who you know who started off
Speaker 6: with us locally will be on that car too. So
Speaker 6: this is a big cart that a lot of people
Speaker 6: are gonna be on. So some of these up and
Speaker 6: coming dudes will get the chance to be showcased. The
Speaker 6: same way that I told y'all earlier, I got the
Speaker 6: battle on pay per view. It's gonna be the same way.
Speaker 6: It's gonna be long, it's gonna be a pay per
Speaker 6: view event, be a pay per view event, it's gonna
Speaker 6: be live tickets on sale already that you can be there.
Speaker 6: If you in Atlanta September the third King of Diamonds,
Speaker 6: it's gonna be gonna be lit.
Speaker 1: Man, it's gonna be It's gonna be a var man.
Speaker 4: That's it. Man. We appreciate you man come to sit
Speaker 4: down with us, because what I said when I gave
Speaker 4: the opening statements, man you are you are definitely man
Speaker 4: gonna go down because you're still so young. Man. You
Speaker 4: got a whole bunch of other shiits you go do.
Speaker 4: So I don't want to make it sound like you
Speaker 4: finished yeah, because you still descending right. You definitely man,
Speaker 4: are looked at as one of the greatest battle rappers
Speaker 4: of all time. And it's the range of time of
Speaker 4: what you accomplished that was amazing in itself. It's almost
Speaker 4: like you just came in and boot boot boop boop
Speaker 4: and just said, Nigga, I'm I'm gone now, you know
Speaker 4: what I'm saying. So salute to you and all y'all
Speaker 4: out there. Man, make sure make sure while you're doing
Speaker 4: it right now, going to your Spotify or iTunes and
Speaker 4: download that Lessons Lessons too, Right one and two, Lessons
Speaker 4: one and two Right Now legendary album Man Got e
Speaker 4: forty on there and got Premo on it. Man, ship banging, Man.
Speaker 4: You know what my favorite song is what you go
Speaker 4: through when they come through. It was like your shir
Speaker 4: you hell yeah, that shit hard. That shit made me
Speaker 4: want to fight. That ship is hard for sure. It's official.
Speaker 4: Y'all know what they do.
Speaker 5: Tune in, man, we got it cracking, you know, Nick
Speaker 5: episode man, so y'all toned. Now we're about to get
Speaker 5: up out of here and Gainst the Chronicles official cheer.
Speaker 2: If my notes will girl like Pinocchio, We're gonna tell
Speaker 2: you the truth and nothing but.
Speaker 1: That is not your.
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