1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:03,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the best of the Odd Couple podcasts. 2 00:00:03,680 --> 00:00:06,200 Speaker 1: Be sure to check us out live every weekday from 3 00:00:06,200 --> 00:00:09,440 Speaker 1: four to seven pm Pacific seven to ten pm Eastern 4 00:00:09,560 --> 00:00:12,440 Speaker 1: on Fox Sports Radio. Find your local station for The 5 00:00:12,480 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: Odd Couple on Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,639 Speaker 1: us every day on the iHeartRadio by searching FSR. 7 00:00:19,680 --> 00:00:21,880 Speaker 2: You're listening to the best of the Odd. 8 00:00:21,760 --> 00:00:26,360 Speaker 3: Coupley Milwaukee Bucks. 9 00:00:26,400 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: Not sitting around step away from your phone for two 10 00:00:29,080 --> 00:00:30,040 Speaker 1: minutes and you come back. 11 00:00:30,320 --> 00:00:32,360 Speaker 3: He went where he sorrd for what? Yeah, it was 12 00:00:32,400 --> 00:00:33,960 Speaker 3: a big shakeup in Milwaukee. 13 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:38,720 Speaker 4: On Tuesday morning, ESPM, Shan Sharanya reported that the Milwaukee 14 00:00:38,720 --> 00:00:44,440 Speaker 4: Bucks would be waving and stretching Damian Lillard, which means 15 00:00:44,440 --> 00:00:46,239 Speaker 4: that the one hundred and thirty million dollars they owe 16 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:48,800 Speaker 4: him will now be paid out over five seasons, which 17 00:00:48,800 --> 00:00:51,800 Speaker 4: means for the next five years, Milwaukee's gonna be bang 18 00:00:51,880 --> 00:00:54,440 Speaker 4: named twenty two and a half million dollars on their 19 00:00:54,440 --> 00:00:55,840 Speaker 4: books to not play for that. 20 00:00:55,960 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 5: But what you don't know, Rob is twenty two million 21 00:00:58,240 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 5: and pistachio nuts. 22 00:00:59,400 --> 00:01:00,920 Speaker 3: It's not cast right. 23 00:01:01,600 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 4: And the reason they did that is because they wanted 24 00:01:05,120 --> 00:01:10,280 Speaker 4: to take his salary and be able to sign Indiana 25 00:01:10,319 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 4: pacersent a former Indiana Pacers center Miles Turner, to a 26 00:01:13,840 --> 00:01:17,679 Speaker 4: four year, one hundred and seven million dollar contract, which means, 27 00:01:18,000 --> 00:01:20,479 Speaker 4: when you factor in the cap hold of Damian Lillard 28 00:01:20,480 --> 00:01:23,240 Speaker 4: plus the new salary for Miles Turner, the Milwaukee Bucks 29 00:01:23,240 --> 00:01:26,440 Speaker 4: are essentially paying about fifty million dollars a season to 30 00:01:26,560 --> 00:01:29,040 Speaker 4: replace Damian Lillard with Miles Turner. 31 00:01:29,280 --> 00:01:30,160 Speaker 3: And here's the kicker. 32 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:34,440 Speaker 4: About an hour after this news went public, longtime NBA 33 00:01:34,480 --> 00:01:38,320 Speaker 4: insider Chris Haynes reporter on NBA TV that Jannis was 34 00:01:38,400 --> 00:01:42,839 Speaker 4: quote not pleased by Milwaukee's decision, and according to Haynes, 35 00:01:42,880 --> 00:01:45,360 Speaker 4: Yannis quote just did not like the way it was 36 00:01:45,360 --> 00:01:45,800 Speaker 4: all handed. 37 00:01:45,880 --> 00:01:48,120 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, See, did you hear what he said? He 38 00:01:48,160 --> 00:01:51,280 Speaker 5: didn't say like Une, I'm not down with this move 39 00:01:51,440 --> 00:01:53,480 Speaker 5: the way it was handled. That's so that when you 40 00:01:53,520 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 5: see Damien out of restaurant, it's like, man, I can't 41 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:58,200 Speaker 5: believe they did that to you or whatever. Like if 42 00:01:58,240 --> 00:02:01,600 Speaker 5: you buying any of this, that the mill Milwaukee Bucks 43 00:02:01,720 --> 00:02:05,320 Speaker 5: organizations doing something without Yannis knowing, I think you're kidd yourself. 44 00:02:05,480 --> 00:02:07,720 Speaker 6: Well, we're on the same page. I told this to Robgs. 45 00:02:07,760 --> 00:02:10,239 Speaker 1: We talked about the show earlier today, I said, this 46 00:02:10,480 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: is Gianni is his way to go. See, man, I tried, 47 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 1: I tried Milwaukee, I tried, fans. 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 6: I wasn't gonna leave. 49 00:02:19,720 --> 00:02:21,840 Speaker 1: You know, I was trying to stick around, and you 50 00:02:21,919 --> 00:02:23,960 Speaker 1: know I do Me and Dame, Me and Demien, Me 51 00:02:23,960 --> 00:02:25,880 Speaker 1: and Damien could come back and that we could play 52 00:02:26,160 --> 00:02:29,880 Speaker 1: and we could do this. This is his way of saying, now, look, 53 00:02:29,960 --> 00:02:32,200 Speaker 1: I don't know what they're doing. They they're letting Dame go. 54 00:02:32,800 --> 00:02:36,280 Speaker 1: I didn't know we're making moves. We signed Miles Turner 55 00:02:36,320 --> 00:02:38,440 Speaker 1: when we already signed Bobby Porter, so we just signed 56 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 1: the same guy twice. And I just think that this 57 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,680 Speaker 1: is his way of exiting. I think he has been 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,320 Speaker 1: interested in exiting. I think he obviously was wanted to 59 00:02:46,360 --> 00:02:47,959 Speaker 1: see some moves that they would make before he makes 60 00:02:47,960 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: that final decision to ask for a trade fully. And 61 00:02:50,440 --> 00:02:53,720 Speaker 1: this makes it where it's more palatable, easier to take 62 00:02:53,960 --> 00:02:56,480 Speaker 1: spoonful of medae sugar with the medicine to go down, 63 00:02:56,520 --> 00:02:58,760 Speaker 1: easier for the fans, so he can say, hey, I tried, 64 00:02:58,760 --> 00:03:00,600 Speaker 1: but look at the moves. Even you be mad if 65 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,760 Speaker 1: you were me to the fans. And I think he's 66 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:04,800 Speaker 1: seeing all sort the stuff that's happened around the NBA. 67 00:03:05,160 --> 00:03:07,680 Speaker 1: He's seen the Rockets getting better. He seeing the Nuggets 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: getting better, He's seeing the Hawks getting better. 69 00:03:09,800 --> 00:03:10,400 Speaker 6: He's seeing some. 70 00:03:10,360 --> 00:03:12,560 Speaker 1: Other teams make moves, and I think he's like, I 71 00:03:12,560 --> 00:03:14,400 Speaker 1: gotta get out of here. This is my chance to 72 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:18,040 Speaker 1: do so because you mentioned it. Listen, I disagree with 73 00:03:18,040 --> 00:03:20,960 Speaker 1: you totally. I think you've totally misread this. Okay, And 74 00:03:21,040 --> 00:03:23,120 Speaker 1: I think totally I think this is his way of 75 00:03:23,120 --> 00:03:25,320 Speaker 1: being like he has his. 76 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,040 Speaker 3: Hands on it. Are you kidding? 77 00:03:27,440 --> 00:03:29,239 Speaker 6: This is miss getting rid of Dame? 78 00:03:29,520 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 3: Yes, Damian Lillard in Milwaukee was a bust. 79 00:03:34,680 --> 00:03:35,240 Speaker 6: It didn't work. 80 00:03:35,360 --> 00:03:36,680 Speaker 3: It didn't work. 81 00:03:36,440 --> 00:03:40,400 Speaker 5: From day one. It never worked. And the whole idea 82 00:03:40,520 --> 00:03:43,560 Speaker 5: that he's not gonna play next year, having him on 83 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:45,960 Speaker 5: a team where he's coming back from an injury and 84 00:03:46,000 --> 00:03:48,720 Speaker 5: not playing, that's not gonna help Giannis. The only way 85 00:03:48,720 --> 00:03:51,120 Speaker 5: that they did this is because and they're willing to 86 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:53,200 Speaker 5: eat all of this money for Yannis. 87 00:03:53,520 --> 00:03:57,280 Speaker 3: He ain't going nowhere. He signed off on this, this 88 00:03:57,360 --> 00:04:00,000 Speaker 3: whole idea. Like the way it was handled. 89 00:04:00,400 --> 00:04:04,160 Speaker 5: That's being nice for Damian little and giving him some respect. 90 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:08,720 Speaker 3: He didn't say, what are they doing? Are you kidding me. 91 00:04:09,560 --> 00:04:12,320 Speaker 5: I wanted Dame to sit on the bench street closed 92 00:04:12,360 --> 00:04:13,800 Speaker 5: next year next to me. 93 00:04:14,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 3: Are you kidding? He ain't going nowhere. 94 00:04:17,160 --> 00:04:21,279 Speaker 5: He never asked for a trade, and now these moves 95 00:04:21,279 --> 00:04:22,160 Speaker 5: that they've made and. 96 00:04:22,200 --> 00:04:25,760 Speaker 3: Gone out to do. His hands are on this. And 97 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:26,480 Speaker 3: what I mean by. 98 00:04:26,440 --> 00:04:30,040 Speaker 5: This is he knows what Milwaukee is doing, which is 99 00:04:30,080 --> 00:04:33,600 Speaker 5: giving him a chance in an Eastern Conference where the 100 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:37,159 Speaker 5: Celtics are banged up and have changed their team and 101 00:04:37,200 --> 00:04:40,080 Speaker 5: basically have punted for a year with taint them out, 102 00:04:40,560 --> 00:04:42,599 Speaker 5: and the Pacers are punting. 103 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:43,640 Speaker 3: Right with a year out. 104 00:04:43,960 --> 00:04:49,280 Speaker 5: So you got only the Knicks basically Philadelphia and Milwaukee 105 00:04:49,760 --> 00:04:53,919 Speaker 5: and saying, Yannis, we can retool this, and Cleveland, we 106 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:55,000 Speaker 5: can retool this. 107 00:04:55,760 --> 00:04:56,960 Speaker 3: There's a chance here. 108 00:04:57,760 --> 00:05:01,360 Speaker 5: But we can't sit here and wait on Damian Lillard, 109 00:05:01,400 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 5: who didn't even click with you from day one. When 110 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:08,960 Speaker 5: they got Damian Lillard, people are like, oh my god, 111 00:05:09,080 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 5: this is perfect. 112 00:05:10,240 --> 00:05:14,360 Speaker 3: Am I right? No, we're looking for right and it 113 00:05:14,560 --> 00:05:15,480 Speaker 3: never worked. 114 00:05:16,040 --> 00:05:21,960 Speaker 5: Damian Lillard in Milwaukee was a broads that fell on 115 00:05:22,000 --> 00:05:24,359 Speaker 5: the ground, got hair on it and had no mustard 116 00:05:24,400 --> 00:05:24,720 Speaker 5: on it. 117 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 3: It was grown by the way. 118 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:27,720 Speaker 1: I just had a bro we had on the news 119 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:29,560 Speaker 1: show today, we had some grilled dudes come on and 120 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:29,919 Speaker 1: grilled up. 121 00:05:30,240 --> 00:05:32,480 Speaker 3: Do you know what I'm saying that that hair on it. 122 00:05:33,120 --> 00:05:35,400 Speaker 1: By the way, if I'm about say who's here, if 123 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:36,840 Speaker 1: it's somebody in my house, one of my daughters and 124 00:05:36,839 --> 00:05:37,880 Speaker 1: my wife, we gotta keep eating. 125 00:05:38,279 --> 00:05:40,599 Speaker 6: We gotta keep eating now high on the food you 126 00:05:40,640 --> 00:05:42,400 Speaker 6: eat with the family. You know my wife's. 127 00:05:42,400 --> 00:05:45,280 Speaker 1: But come on, I mean, you just I'm gonna leave 128 00:05:45,279 --> 00:05:46,719 Speaker 1: that out there. You know what I'm saying. I guess 129 00:05:46,760 --> 00:05:47,120 Speaker 1: you go. 130 00:05:47,760 --> 00:05:49,120 Speaker 3: I hear, I hear what you're saying. 131 00:05:49,120 --> 00:05:52,000 Speaker 1: The only the only thing I'm thinking is the moves 132 00:05:52,000 --> 00:05:54,279 Speaker 1: that they've made. Who Bobby portis is a good player 133 00:05:54,279 --> 00:05:55,880 Speaker 1: for them, So I'm not mad at them resigning Bobby 134 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:57,839 Speaker 1: Ports but then turning around to me and signing Myles 135 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:00,200 Speaker 1: Turner is kind of signing the same guy straight for 136 00:06:00,600 --> 00:06:01,880 Speaker 1: Bobby Porters does a little bit more. 137 00:06:01,920 --> 00:06:04,760 Speaker 3: They said Moll turn is gonna play center for them, right. 138 00:06:04,440 --> 00:06:06,719 Speaker 1: But I'm saying, you got too big like you okay, 139 00:06:06,720 --> 00:06:09,520 Speaker 1: Brook Lopez lose leaves and you got another big who 140 00:06:09,560 --> 00:06:12,120 Speaker 1: stretches the floor. To me, they haven't made moves that 141 00:06:12,160 --> 00:06:14,600 Speaker 1: make me feel like this is a team we can 142 00:06:14,680 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: win with to me, this is a team. 143 00:06:16,800 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 6: This team is. 144 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,320 Speaker 3: Better than last year. 145 00:06:18,560 --> 00:06:22,040 Speaker 1: This is the fourth fifth seed that and in East again, 146 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:23,919 Speaker 1: the East is open in the sense that Boston was 147 00:06:23,920 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: the BOHEMI that we thought was gonna repeat this past 148 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:27,599 Speaker 1: season or have a great shot to and then that 149 00:06:27,760 --> 00:06:29,800 Speaker 1: just all spiraled out, especially now with injuries. 150 00:06:30,320 --> 00:06:31,159 Speaker 6: But I just think. 151 00:06:31,720 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 3: I'm not wild by the team. 152 00:06:34,000 --> 00:06:36,760 Speaker 1: And I think for me, I thought this would be 153 00:06:36,800 --> 00:06:39,320 Speaker 1: an exit point to say, all right, now I can 154 00:06:39,360 --> 00:06:41,320 Speaker 1: go be where I want to be and have a 155 00:06:41,360 --> 00:06:44,280 Speaker 1: shot to win it with whomever. Because once you add 156 00:06:44,279 --> 00:06:48,680 Speaker 1: Giannis to a good to already really good team, now 157 00:06:48,720 --> 00:06:51,680 Speaker 1: you're over the top. I thought this would be this 158 00:06:51,800 --> 00:06:55,039 Speaker 1: opportunity to go join you know, obviously if we want 159 00:06:55,040 --> 00:06:57,240 Speaker 1: to say it's the Spurs or something like that, you know, 160 00:06:57,320 --> 00:06:59,400 Speaker 1: kind of some teams that could kind of make sense 161 00:06:59,440 --> 00:07:00,280 Speaker 1: on paper. 162 00:07:00,600 --> 00:07:02,880 Speaker 5: But that would have happened during this whole thing, because 163 00:07:02,920 --> 00:07:06,200 Speaker 5: you would need to know, like what you're doing like that, 164 00:07:06,400 --> 00:07:08,919 Speaker 5: Like if Giannis was really gonna be moved somewhere, I 165 00:07:08,960 --> 00:07:10,680 Speaker 5: thought it would have been, it would have happened by 166 00:07:10,720 --> 00:07:12,680 Speaker 5: now for the other team or for the yeah, for 167 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:15,240 Speaker 5: the other team, for the other team, and and the 168 00:07:15,320 --> 00:07:17,440 Speaker 5: bucks too. This if this is gonna happen, you gotta 169 00:07:17,480 --> 00:07:19,760 Speaker 5: you're not gonna wait till free agencies over and you're 170 00:07:20,000 --> 00:07:23,000 Speaker 5: you've allocated money and now somebody's got to give up 171 00:07:23,040 --> 00:07:23,880 Speaker 5: all these players. 172 00:07:23,880 --> 00:07:26,239 Speaker 3: I would I assume that would be in the mix already. 173 00:07:26,280 --> 00:07:28,640 Speaker 1: And that's the thing I think Gianni's has the luxury 174 00:07:28,640 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: of doing is kind of waiting to see how this goes, 175 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,960 Speaker 1: because now if he comes out and starts not asking him, 176 00:07:33,960 --> 00:07:37,080 Speaker 1: demanding for a trade, then you kind of force their hands. 177 00:07:37,120 --> 00:07:40,400 Speaker 5: That's not even his makeup and just that that's not 178 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:43,640 Speaker 5: his makeup. So I hear you on that, and reports 179 00:07:43,680 --> 00:07:46,120 Speaker 5: are that he has not asked. 180 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:48,560 Speaker 1: Right, But what I'm saying right and could could have before, 181 00:07:48,920 --> 00:07:51,520 Speaker 1: it's not his makeup to cause a funk. I agree 182 00:07:51,520 --> 00:07:54,400 Speaker 1: with that, but it's also his ma. It's also a point. 183 00:07:54,400 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 1: It's no one's make up until you finally have had enough, 184 00:07:56,680 --> 00:07:57,840 Speaker 1: you know what I mean, Like if. 185 00:07:57,680 --> 00:08:00,360 Speaker 5: You're whether you do I think eating that much money 186 00:08:00,400 --> 00:08:04,000 Speaker 5: when they're when they're basically said, like seriously, like they 187 00:08:04,000 --> 00:08:06,640 Speaker 5: could have said, we're Milwaukee was we can't do this, 188 00:08:07,000 --> 00:08:09,600 Speaker 5: we can't eat one twelve. We gotta wait from the 189 00:08:09,760 --> 00:08:11,520 Speaker 5: can you can you hang on another year and wait 190 00:08:11,520 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 5: from the Okay, this is my point. And they're showing action, 191 00:08:16,720 --> 00:08:20,040 Speaker 5: not just saying like the Celtics just dismantled their team. 192 00:08:20,440 --> 00:08:23,600 Speaker 5: The Pacers are like, we're not paying a luxury tax. 193 00:08:23,640 --> 00:08:26,040 Speaker 5: We're not going anywhere how stars out. Okay, we're not 194 00:08:26,120 --> 00:08:29,480 Speaker 5: doing that. I get that. And the and the Bucks 195 00:08:29,520 --> 00:08:33,480 Speaker 5: are like the East okay, the Knicks are there, we 196 00:08:33,520 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 5: don't know what the Sixers are right, and you got Cleveland, okay, 197 00:08:39,480 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 5: like it's there to be taken and let us go 198 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:47,400 Speaker 5: retool this. I think I give Milwaukee credit not being 199 00:08:47,520 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 5: playing the we're the small market, we can't afford Okay, 200 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:51,600 Speaker 5: we can't pay. 201 00:08:51,440 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 3: You all out at once. We spread it out, but 202 00:08:53,360 --> 00:08:54,720 Speaker 3: they're gonna give them money. 203 00:08:54,679 --> 00:08:57,280 Speaker 1: And only the only pushback out half of that though, 204 00:08:57,320 --> 00:08:59,400 Speaker 1: and we'll get later in the show on the more 205 00:08:59,480 --> 00:09:02,080 Speaker 1: the Dames side of it. But my point would be is, 206 00:09:03,080 --> 00:09:06,600 Speaker 1: in trying to do this, you threw a major allue 207 00:09:06,640 --> 00:09:08,480 Speaker 1: to Dame, you know, and again we'll talk a little 208 00:09:08,480 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: further about that, but in trying to if it's trying 209 00:09:11,760 --> 00:09:14,319 Speaker 1: to facilitate the happiness of Giannis, you threw a. 210 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:19,000 Speaker 3: Huge to me the bigger win it would be for Dame. 211 00:09:19,360 --> 00:09:22,680 Speaker 5: And again he can't play, but I mean, but he's 212 00:09:23,280 --> 00:09:26,240 Speaker 5: nulling void in Milwaukee. He can't. I'm you know what 213 00:09:26,280 --> 00:09:30,479 Speaker 5: I mean something So for Giannis like having Dame around, 214 00:09:30,679 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 5: Like seriously, they did the right thing. He can't play 215 00:09:33,760 --> 00:09:36,000 Speaker 5: next year? What is the point, right? But I'm in 216 00:09:36,040 --> 00:09:39,320 Speaker 5: this again. We'll talk about then. Dame to me is 217 00:09:39,360 --> 00:09:42,559 Speaker 5: a massive winner in this. We'll talk about that portion. Well, 218 00:09:42,600 --> 00:09:45,360 Speaker 5: you'll see if anybody wants him. I mean, if he's 219 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:48,040 Speaker 5: getting money. So if he takes a minimum or something, 220 00:09:48,080 --> 00:09:50,160 Speaker 5: that's what I'm saying, nobody's going to go sign him 221 00:09:50,200 --> 00:09:52,520 Speaker 5: to and that's the that's the big end. 222 00:09:52,600 --> 00:09:54,080 Speaker 3: But he got his feelings hurt. You can't. 223 00:09:54,160 --> 00:09:54,319 Speaker 2: Don't. 224 00:09:54,400 --> 00:09:56,800 Speaker 3: Don't kid yourself. I ain't no way. He probably thought 225 00:09:57,160 --> 00:09:58,640 Speaker 3: that they would do they'd eat that much. 226 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:01,600 Speaker 6: But that's the thing that we'll talk a little bit 227 00:10:01,640 --> 00:10:02,160 Speaker 6: more about it. 228 00:10:02,240 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 229 00:10:05,160 --> 00:10:08,520 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 230 00:10:08,640 --> 00:10:12,719 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app search FSR to 231 00:10:12,840 --> 00:10:13,520 Speaker 2: listen live. 232 00:10:13,920 --> 00:10:16,520 Speaker 7: Hey, it's Ben, host of the Fifth Hour with Ben 233 00:10:16,520 --> 00:10:19,640 Speaker 7: Maller along with my trustee sidekick David Gascon would mean 234 00:10:19,640 --> 00:10:21,400 Speaker 7: a lot to have you join us on our weekly 235 00:10:21,559 --> 00:10:24,520 Speaker 7: auditory journey. 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Now that story was not picked up really 253 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:19,120 Speaker 4: anywhere because honestly, who's Knicks Fan TV. We have no 254 00:11:19,160 --> 00:11:21,160 Speaker 4: idea who they are, how riputable they are. 255 00:11:21,240 --> 00:11:21,680 Speaker 6: What have you? 256 00:11:22,559 --> 00:11:22,719 Speaker 7: Well? 257 00:11:22,800 --> 00:11:27,679 Speaker 4: On Tuesday morning, the Athletic confirmed that yes, Don Staley 258 00:11:27,720 --> 00:11:30,319 Speaker 4: did meet with the Knicks front office, and while they 259 00:11:30,320 --> 00:11:34,760 Speaker 4: were very impressed with her presentation and their conversation, they 260 00:11:34,800 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: decided not to move forward with her in the head 261 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:40,360 Speaker 4: coaching church. And right now, all signs point to the 262 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:44,679 Speaker 4: team bringing in Mike Brown, former Calves, former Lakers, former 263 00:11:45,120 --> 00:11:47,959 Speaker 4: King's head coach to be the next head man in Gotham. 264 00:11:47,960 --> 00:11:50,679 Speaker 5: Can I say this, I'd rather have Charlie Brown at 265 00:11:50,679 --> 00:11:55,560 Speaker 5: this point. I mean Mike Brown. Really, I'm sorry. Uh, 266 00:11:55,679 --> 00:11:58,600 Speaker 5: he's been everywhere, and you know, the teams are all pretty. 267 00:11:58,320 --> 00:12:02,760 Speaker 3: Good, but really, Mike Brown, Mike Brown, Mike Woodson. I 268 00:12:03,400 --> 00:12:05,400 Speaker 3: just told me he's the anti Tips. That's basically where 269 00:12:05,400 --> 00:12:06,679 Speaker 3: you're at. But I don't get that. 270 00:12:06,800 --> 00:12:09,679 Speaker 5: I'm serious if Mike Brown came with something or championship, 271 00:12:09,720 --> 00:12:13,800 Speaker 5: but then I'm all in. Really, the guy got fired 272 00:12:13,880 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 5: five game from the Lakers. That guy, Mike Brown, that's 273 00:12:16,640 --> 00:12:18,000 Speaker 5: the guy that bring it to New York. Come on, 274 00:12:18,640 --> 00:12:20,880 Speaker 5: if you're gonna make that move, it's gotta be somebody 275 00:12:20,960 --> 00:12:22,920 Speaker 5: who's got a chip in the back pocket. 276 00:12:22,960 --> 00:12:25,079 Speaker 1: You said Mike Malone, and I didn't think he was 277 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,400 Speaker 1: a guy, but I got your premise. 278 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:27,360 Speaker 6: He's got a ring. 279 00:12:27,240 --> 00:12:30,680 Speaker 5: He's got You can't say he's tips out here, Well 280 00:12:30,760 --> 00:12:31,440 Speaker 5: he's tips. 281 00:12:31,640 --> 00:12:32,160 Speaker 3: No, he's not. 282 00:12:32,360 --> 00:12:35,280 Speaker 5: Guess why Tim don't have a ring. That's why, you know, 283 00:12:35,400 --> 00:12:36,240 Speaker 5: I have a job. 284 00:12:36,200 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: And this, this is this is why again I go 285 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:42,280 Speaker 1: back to Donald, Donald Sterling, Jim Dolan. You know, oh man, 286 00:12:42,280 --> 00:12:44,480 Speaker 1: we gotta quit going for shiny things and quit when 287 00:12:44,480 --> 00:12:45,000 Speaker 1: we got something. 288 00:12:45,000 --> 00:12:45,760 Speaker 6: We gotta ride it out. 289 00:12:45,760 --> 00:12:47,360 Speaker 1: We can't just keep making these moves and then they 290 00:12:47,360 --> 00:12:50,440 Speaker 1: make the move like okay, now, okay, re treading all right? 291 00:12:50,480 --> 00:12:56,439 Speaker 5: But anyway, anyway, uh down Staley, I'm a tremendous basketball 292 00:12:56,480 --> 00:12:58,920 Speaker 5: college basketball coach and all that. I don't even you know, 293 00:12:59,000 --> 00:13:03,280 Speaker 5: coaching is coaching, you know, men of coached women forever 294 00:13:03,480 --> 00:13:07,040 Speaker 5: and this whole idea, and so I don't I'm not 295 00:13:07,200 --> 00:13:10,040 Speaker 5: any questions about whether or not she could coach. I 296 00:13:10,240 --> 00:13:13,200 Speaker 5: just the game is the game, So I think she 297 00:13:13,280 --> 00:13:16,240 Speaker 5: can coach. I just don't think it's going to happen. 298 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:18,400 Speaker 5: And I don't think the NBA is ready for it 299 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:22,640 Speaker 5: because it was all set up. Becky Hammond was supposed 300 00:13:22,679 --> 00:13:29,360 Speaker 5: to be the first female coach. She got anointed by Pop. 301 00:13:29,400 --> 00:13:32,600 Speaker 5: Everybody pop all I love pop, right, and is all 302 00:13:32,640 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 5: the success that he had. 303 00:13:34,240 --> 00:13:35,520 Speaker 6: She was the assistant. 304 00:13:35,559 --> 00:13:38,920 Speaker 5: She was an assistant coach sitting there right, and she 305 00:13:39,080 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 5: got a few interviews. It never panned out. Where is 306 00:13:42,640 --> 00:13:43,040 Speaker 5: she now? 307 00:13:43,200 --> 00:13:45,520 Speaker 6: Is she in the she's WNBA coach. 308 00:13:45,400 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 5: So she's a w NBA and that's what she wound 309 00:13:47,600 --> 00:13:55,000 Speaker 5: up and in Vegas. And I just think that they 310 00:13:55,080 --> 00:13:57,600 Speaker 5: just people aren't ready for that, just like people aren't 311 00:13:57,600 --> 00:13:59,719 Speaker 5: ready for a female president of the United States. I 312 00:13:59,760 --> 00:14:02,560 Speaker 5: really believe that because we saw it happen twice. But 313 00:14:02,600 --> 00:14:06,360 Speaker 5: I just don't believe that. You know, it was nice 314 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:10,000 Speaker 5: and out of respect to her and to have a conversation, 315 00:14:10,160 --> 00:14:13,200 Speaker 5: get her feel for the game and what is she seeing? 316 00:14:13,280 --> 00:14:15,720 Speaker 5: You know, like a lot of these interviews are fact 317 00:14:15,760 --> 00:14:16,320 Speaker 5: finding too. 318 00:14:16,960 --> 00:14:19,240 Speaker 3: What would you do? What are we doing wrong? 319 00:14:21,800 --> 00:14:25,760 Speaker 1: And you're taking all these notes too. 320 00:14:24,480 --> 00:14:29,680 Speaker 3: Yeah, that's a good point exactly, you know what. 321 00:14:29,800 --> 00:14:33,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, we should do that, didn't the fourth cat at 322 00:14:33,080 --> 00:14:35,760 Speaker 5: the end of the quarters? Yeah he should He shouldn't 323 00:14:35,760 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 5: be in there. 324 00:14:36,240 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 6: Jalen Brunson. Don't have to pound the ball out the 325 00:14:38,120 --> 00:14:39,400 Speaker 6: air of you. 326 00:14:39,320 --> 00:14:39,840 Speaker 3: Know what I mean. 327 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:42,360 Speaker 5: So, so I get why they bring in people because 328 00:14:42,360 --> 00:14:45,480 Speaker 5: they want to hear these these basketball minds and see 329 00:14:45,480 --> 00:14:46,400 Speaker 5: what they're seeing. 330 00:14:46,840 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 3: So it's a and it's a it's a it's it's good. 331 00:14:49,600 --> 00:14:51,840 Speaker 5: For her too, like, oh wow, the Knicks interviewed you 332 00:14:51,920 --> 00:14:55,080 Speaker 5: when you go back to college and they're like, wow, okay, 333 00:14:55,200 --> 00:14:58,400 Speaker 5: well you get NBA feelers that could only help you 334 00:14:58,600 --> 00:15:00,600 Speaker 5: if you're if you're Dawn Stale. 335 00:15:00,760 --> 00:15:02,560 Speaker 1: You just led me to a point I was gonna make. 336 00:15:02,640 --> 00:15:04,800 Speaker 1: I think it will happen eventually. I was talking to 337 00:15:04,880 --> 00:15:06,560 Speaker 1: rob Gie earlier and I said, I think we'll see 338 00:15:06,600 --> 00:15:09,120 Speaker 1: it in the next three to four years. Yeah, I 339 00:15:09,160 --> 00:15:10,880 Speaker 1: think we'll see it then. I just think that's just 340 00:15:10,920 --> 00:15:13,640 Speaker 1: the way society is going. I think that's the way 341 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:18,520 Speaker 1: the NBA is getting really unique, very progressive ownerships. And 342 00:15:18,560 --> 00:15:20,160 Speaker 1: I think some of them will say I want to 343 00:15:20,200 --> 00:15:23,040 Speaker 1: be the one to have done this first, but a 344 00:15:23,040 --> 00:15:27,160 Speaker 1: perfect spot that listen, I have no argument with that. 345 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,880 Speaker 3: Becky had. We it was almost more of a shock. 346 00:15:30,000 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: She didn't get it. 347 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:33,280 Speaker 1: We were like, wait, that kind of sat there. Pop 348 00:15:33,360 --> 00:15:35,560 Speaker 1: is always progressive, and in him. 349 00:15:35,440 --> 00:15:38,640 Speaker 5: Being it said I'm gonna be honest, it said something 350 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 5: about her because she had interviews and and it didn't happen. 351 00:15:43,880 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 5: I'm just saying because it was she laid the groundwork. 352 00:15:46,960 --> 00:15:50,280 Speaker 5: She had everything set up for this to happen. Do 353 00:15:50,280 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 5: you understand what I'm saying? Like the the ultimate endorsement 354 00:15:53,480 --> 00:15:57,440 Speaker 5: by Pop on the bench, people respected her, she did 355 00:15:57,600 --> 00:15:59,640 Speaker 5: put on her dudes one like, they rushed her to 356 00:15:59,680 --> 00:16:00,160 Speaker 5: the front of. 357 00:16:00,160 --> 00:16:04,160 Speaker 1: The line, all that she's the person that if it happens, 358 00:16:04,200 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 1: no one's mad. 359 00:16:05,520 --> 00:16:07,200 Speaker 6: Oh yeah, that makes sense. Yeah, it's kind of simar. 360 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,320 Speaker 5: But that it didn't happen for her is what makes 361 00:16:09,360 --> 00:16:13,120 Speaker 5: me question who else has done all those steps, you 362 00:16:13,160 --> 00:16:15,080 Speaker 5: know what I mean and gotten the endorsement. 363 00:16:15,200 --> 00:16:17,200 Speaker 3: That's what I'm chockbos. 364 00:16:16,720 --> 00:16:17,920 Speaker 6: So I'm looking at this too. 365 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:20,320 Speaker 1: So going back to Don Staley, I think the reason 366 00:16:20,360 --> 00:16:23,800 Speaker 1: why this is significant is because I think Dawn Staley, 367 00:16:23,880 --> 00:16:25,480 Speaker 1: if you, if you kind of kept track of what 368 00:16:25,520 --> 00:16:26,960 Speaker 1: she said, because you know, she gets asked this question, 369 00:16:27,000 --> 00:16:27,640 Speaker 1: would you go to NBA? 370 00:16:27,640 --> 00:16:28,320 Speaker 6: What'd you go do with this? 371 00:16:28,480 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: And she's always said her, she's maintained her she believes 372 00:16:32,080 --> 00:16:34,280 Speaker 1: her kind of a plight in or not plight. But 373 00:16:34,320 --> 00:16:38,720 Speaker 1: her journey in life is to continue to promote the 374 00:16:38,800 --> 00:16:42,480 Speaker 1: game for the WNBA, continue to promote South Carolina, continue 375 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: to promote for the women. She said, I know it'd 376 00:16:44,640 --> 00:16:46,360 Speaker 1: be cool, and I get it, but I just feel 377 00:16:46,360 --> 00:16:48,600 Speaker 1: like I'm led to just do that. And the reason 378 00:16:48,640 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: why I think an interview like this matters because even 379 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 1: if the Nicks say, I know, you're not really interested, 380 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,200 Speaker 1: because that was the other port, right rob Gi, They're not, 381 00:16:55,520 --> 00:16:57,280 Speaker 1: they weren't serious, it would just kind of have this 382 00:16:57,360 --> 00:16:59,480 Speaker 1: meaning with her. I think they knew there that she's 383 00:16:59,520 --> 00:17:02,600 Speaker 1: not full interested. She knew that they're not fully interested 384 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:04,399 Speaker 1: per se. And I think this is big so that 385 00:17:04,880 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: it becomes more normalized, so that it's, oh, yeah. 386 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:08,640 Speaker 3: We're interviewing back game. 387 00:17:08,680 --> 00:17:10,679 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, we've been to stay Lough and it's not 388 00:17:10,880 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 1: like what really And I think she takes it as 389 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,200 Speaker 1: a step for it to become that so that when 390 00:17:17,359 --> 00:17:21,040 Speaker 1: the next team thinks of people, they can think of somebody. 391 00:17:21,520 --> 00:17:23,520 Speaker 1: New York is a great play, some good steakhouses, some 392 00:17:23,520 --> 00:17:25,200 Speaker 1: good food in it. When they go and they you 393 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,360 Speaker 1: know what I mean, that take you out to. 394 00:17:27,160 --> 00:17:29,240 Speaker 3: Oh you take the meeting. You know this in the 395 00:17:29,280 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 3: business listen. 396 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,920 Speaker 5: Except for Chris and I used to have big arguments 397 00:17:33,920 --> 00:17:37,440 Speaker 5: about this, and I like, if there's no job, I'm 398 00:17:37,480 --> 00:17:39,880 Speaker 5: not going to an interview. I'm talking about an interview 399 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 5: that where there's no job, like they're just kind of 400 00:17:42,119 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 5: doing a dog and pony show. Like I don't believe 401 00:17:44,680 --> 00:17:47,399 Speaker 5: in that said you still yeah, and I just don't. 402 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,760 Speaker 5: If there's a job, I'm interested in going, but like 403 00:17:52,359 --> 00:17:55,760 Speaker 5: to just be like like the NFL does like like 404 00:17:56,000 --> 00:17:56,639 Speaker 5: you know that. 405 00:17:58,440 --> 00:18:00,239 Speaker 3: Because we have to we need we need to just 406 00:18:00,240 --> 00:18:00,800 Speaker 3: bring you with this. 407 00:18:00,920 --> 00:18:03,359 Speaker 5: But I remember when Matt Millan was going to hire 408 00:18:03,440 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 5: the Steve Marriucci has a Super Bowl. 409 00:18:05,280 --> 00:18:06,280 Speaker 3: Everybody knew it. 410 00:18:06,920 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 5: And they couldn't get one brother to come to Detroit 411 00:18:09,240 --> 00:18:12,280 Speaker 5: to do the Rooney Rules. They know it was because 412 00:18:12,280 --> 00:18:14,560 Speaker 5: they knew what it was. It was a sham. And 413 00:18:14,640 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: so people don't do me like that. If the job's open, 414 00:18:18,560 --> 00:18:20,439 Speaker 5: you know I'm interested in going, you don't have to 415 00:18:20,520 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 5: hire me. Forced to hire me, but don't have me 416 00:18:23,160 --> 00:18:25,719 Speaker 5: come in act like the jobs open and you already 417 00:18:25,800 --> 00:18:26,320 Speaker 5: picture guy. 418 00:18:26,400 --> 00:18:30,000 Speaker 1: But what if it's past October sixth and it's the 419 00:18:30,040 --> 00:18:35,719 Speaker 1: world's best cheesecake place and they got I'm not going, Okay, 420 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:39,440 Speaker 1: I'm not, and she's there, I'm not going. 421 00:18:41,200 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 6: Montreal is there. 422 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:44,880 Speaker 3: Well that's different. I might have to at least get 423 00:18:44,920 --> 00:18:47,879 Speaker 3: some cream for dinner again. 424 00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:49,320 Speaker 6: But to get back to the conversation. 425 00:18:50,440 --> 00:18:53,000 Speaker 1: I just think this was big for Don Staley, big 426 00:18:53,000 --> 00:18:56,280 Speaker 1: for other women, big for the Nixon that these conversations 427 00:18:56,280 --> 00:19:00,000 Speaker 1: are having happening, and it's semi normalizing it to where's, oh, 428 00:19:00,040 --> 00:19:03,399 Speaker 1: he's having an interview, and it's kind of just becomes normally. 429 00:19:03,400 --> 00:19:07,199 Speaker 1: All Right, they're considering, you know, another female candidate. Okay, 430 00:19:07,560 --> 00:19:09,640 Speaker 1: it's up there, because I don't you mentioned it earlier. 431 00:19:10,640 --> 00:19:12,960 Speaker 1: I remember when these conversations started happening, especially when we 432 00:19:13,000 --> 00:19:13,720 Speaker 1: start to see a lot. 433 00:19:13,600 --> 00:19:15,040 Speaker 6: Of female assistants in the NFL. 434 00:19:15,480 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: And I believe the NFL will do this way before 435 00:19:18,080 --> 00:19:20,400 Speaker 1: the NFL because I think there's an inherent you. 436 00:19:20,320 --> 00:19:22,440 Speaker 3: Didn't play You think who will do it the. 437 00:19:22,480 --> 00:19:25,840 Speaker 1: NBA before the NFL have a female coach because I 438 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 1: think the NBA the game is the game in the CDA, 439 00:19:28,520 --> 00:19:31,480 Speaker 1: I can't see the NFL. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. 440 00:19:31,760 --> 00:19:34,359 Speaker 1: Because you spent time and we love her. She's a 441 00:19:34,359 --> 00:19:37,320 Speaker 1: friend of the show, you personal friend for you, Nancy Leberman. 442 00:19:37,880 --> 00:19:40,280 Speaker 1: So if she ended up being a coach, he's coaching 443 00:19:40,280 --> 00:19:42,440 Speaker 1: a Big Three and it's like whatever, who you don't 444 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:44,399 Speaker 1: even think if I told you Sheryl Miller. If I 445 00:19:44,440 --> 00:19:47,080 Speaker 1: was coming into some college or and she was my coach, 446 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:50,480 Speaker 1: if Pat Summit was Mike, you didn't think all right, cool, 447 00:19:50,880 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: And it's you know, there's a handful of people that 448 00:19:52,760 --> 00:19:54,960 Speaker 1: just it boom and automatically makes sense. And the game 449 00:19:55,000 --> 00:19:56,639 Speaker 1: is different. You game is the game you play. The 450 00:19:56,680 --> 00:20:00,200 Speaker 1: game is the same with the NFL. I just don't 451 00:20:00,200 --> 00:20:02,239 Speaker 1: see that happen because I think there's an inherent you 452 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:03,919 Speaker 1: didn't play. You don't know what if it was, like, 453 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:06,879 Speaker 1: there's a physicality, and I just think it will. I 454 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: don't think it's gonna happen for at least one hundred 455 00:20:08,840 --> 00:20:11,240 Speaker 1: years in the NFL, Whereas the NBA, I think in 456 00:20:11,280 --> 00:20:13,080 Speaker 1: a handful of years, we're gonna see this happen. 457 00:20:13,119 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 6: With these seas, there's. 458 00:20:13,960 --> 00:20:17,080 Speaker 3: A better chance. Yeah, definitely. I just think it wouldn't. 459 00:20:17,240 --> 00:20:17,879 Speaker 3: You wouldn't go. 460 00:20:18,080 --> 00:20:21,920 Speaker 1: You'd be sitting at Friday's Chili's wherever, like Becky Hammond is, 461 00:20:21,960 --> 00:20:22,800 Speaker 1: oh okay, wow. 462 00:20:22,680 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 3: Okay, and you it looked like it was gonna happen, right, 463 00:20:25,720 --> 00:20:26,040 Speaker 3: you would. 464 00:20:26,440 --> 00:20:28,000 Speaker 1: Whereas if all of a sudden I told you then 465 00:20:28,080 --> 00:20:31,919 Speaker 1: and then such and such as the coach of the 466 00:20:31,960 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers you'd be like, whoa, what it'd be. 467 00:20:35,320 --> 00:20:37,840 Speaker 3: It'd be a big deal. Get n B A. 468 00:20:37,960 --> 00:20:39,920 Speaker 1: I think you'd almost go, oh, yeah that makes sense, 469 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,320 Speaker 1: don state, Oh that's kind of dope, you know what 470 00:20:42,359 --> 00:20:42,920 Speaker 1: that makes okay? 471 00:20:42,920 --> 00:20:45,119 Speaker 5: I think the minor baseball is a few in the 472 00:20:45,160 --> 00:20:50,119 Speaker 5: minor leagues. I think it's one rank them. Is it 473 00:20:50,280 --> 00:20:54,160 Speaker 5: NBA first? We both agree that. I just think because 474 00:20:54,320 --> 00:20:56,919 Speaker 5: the game is so much similar, right, and you have 475 00:20:57,080 --> 00:21:01,720 Speaker 5: people on that level coaching major college basketball yep. 476 00:21:02,160 --> 00:21:04,760 Speaker 1: And the Browns interview kind of Leana Rice that was 477 00:21:04,800 --> 00:21:08,440 Speaker 1: for the team president, right, Yeah, so there's some there's 478 00:21:08,440 --> 00:21:11,320 Speaker 1: some moves happening obviously, she's what the college football playoffs 479 00:21:11,320 --> 00:21:12,720 Speaker 1: and the whole you. 480 00:21:12,680 --> 00:21:13,520 Speaker 6: Know, seeding there. 481 00:21:14,560 --> 00:21:17,520 Speaker 1: I think it would go NBA, MLB, NFL, and I 482 00:21:17,520 --> 00:21:20,080 Speaker 1: think the other the other two take a while. I 483 00:21:20,080 --> 00:21:23,080 Speaker 1: think MLB and football like hold up, yeah, I agree 484 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:23,880 Speaker 1: a long time. 485 00:21:24,000 --> 00:21:26,440 Speaker 3: I agree, But I think basketball is the same game. 486 00:21:26,480 --> 00:21:27,080 Speaker 3: I definitely can. 487 00:21:27,040 --> 00:21:29,280 Speaker 1: See I think three to four years, rob's both of y'all. 488 00:21:29,280 --> 00:21:30,640 Speaker 1: I think we're gonna see it happened in the NBA. 489 00:21:30,880 --> 00:21:32,480 Speaker 1: A progressive ownership is going to be. 490 00:21:32,440 --> 00:21:34,159 Speaker 5: Like I'm gonna say, it's a little longer than that. 491 00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,240 Speaker 5: But I do because Becky Hammon woods right on the 492 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:38,760 Speaker 5: But to me it went backwards. 493 00:21:39,040 --> 00:21:40,840 Speaker 6: Don Staley's players are going to be like, go do 494 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 6: it to prove that you can do it. Go prouvee. 495 00:21:42,320 --> 00:21:43,520 Speaker 6: They're gonna do it Like now, She's gonna do it 496 00:21:43,560 --> 00:21:45,320 Speaker 6: at some point. Watch. That's what I believe. 497 00:21:45,680 --> 00:21:48,600 Speaker 2: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 498 00:21:48,600 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 2: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio 499 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:56,200 Speaker 2: dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search FSR to 500 00:21:56,320 --> 00:21:57,000 Speaker 2: listen live. 501 00:21:58,080 --> 00:21:59,480 Speaker 3: So guys, you already know this. 502 00:21:59,560 --> 00:22:02,600 Speaker 4: Kailin is a captain for the twenty twenty five WNBA 503 00:22:02,600 --> 00:22:06,040 Speaker 4: All Star Game, which will take place in Indianapolis next month, 504 00:22:06,680 --> 00:22:09,720 Speaker 4: largely because she was far and away the leading vote 505 00:22:09,760 --> 00:22:12,160 Speaker 4: getter by the fans. In fact, she got so many 506 00:22:12,280 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 4: votes it was the most by any player in WNBA 507 00:22:15,680 --> 00:22:16,679 Speaker 4: All Star Game history. 508 00:22:16,760 --> 00:22:18,840 Speaker 3: Right, here's the problem. 509 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 4: On Monday night, it was revealed the entire ballot, not 510 00:22:25,960 --> 00:22:29,840 Speaker 4: just the fan vote, not just the media vote, but 511 00:22:29,920 --> 00:22:33,800 Speaker 4: also the player vote. And while Kaylyn Clark was far 512 00:22:33,840 --> 00:22:37,359 Speaker 4: and away first amongst fans, and while Kaylen Clark was 513 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:42,800 Speaker 4: third amongst media, she finished a distant ninth when voted 514 00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:46,520 Speaker 4: by her peers. In fact, it was such a jarring 515 00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:50,880 Speaker 4: discovery that of the eight players listed in front of her, 516 00:22:51,560 --> 00:22:55,320 Speaker 4: the number five and number eight players voted on by 517 00:22:55,400 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 4: her peers didn't even crack the top ten in cumulatives score. So, guys, 518 00:23:02,680 --> 00:23:06,080 Speaker 4: I guess, as they say, the jealousy still runs deep 519 00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:07,920 Speaker 4: for Caitlyn Clark in the de w NBA. 520 00:23:08,840 --> 00:23:12,440 Speaker 5: And I'm gonna say this. I know people are gonna 521 00:23:12,440 --> 00:23:16,360 Speaker 5: paint it as women caddy all that other stuff. I'm 522 00:23:16,440 --> 00:23:20,560 Speaker 5: here to push back on that, and I'm here to 523 00:23:20,680 --> 00:23:27,879 Speaker 5: deliver a public announcement for sports fans out there and 524 00:23:28,400 --> 00:23:35,480 Speaker 5: uh in America. This is not shocking to me whatsoever. 525 00:23:37,320 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 5: This is not a Caitlin Clark issue. 526 00:23:42,560 --> 00:23:42,960 Speaker 3: It's not. 527 00:23:45,680 --> 00:23:54,080 Speaker 5: This is a athlete issue. And when I talk about this, 528 00:23:55,880 --> 00:24:03,640 Speaker 5: I'm dead serious. Stop listening to play podcast. Stop it 529 00:24:04,840 --> 00:24:11,399 Speaker 5: because they won't and they can't be honest about players 530 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:15,280 Speaker 5: who are playing currently because they have skin in the game. 531 00:24:15,760 --> 00:24:18,440 Speaker 5: They can't give you an honest take. I'm not surprised 532 00:24:18,440 --> 00:24:24,560 Speaker 5: by this at all. Zero Are you still listening to 533 00:24:24,600 --> 00:24:29,200 Speaker 5: Gilbert Arenas's podcast? Does he have a proverbial gun to 534 00:24:29,280 --> 00:24:38,760 Speaker 5: your head? Just turn the station to unsubscribe. Stop it already. 535 00:24:39,320 --> 00:24:40,600 Speaker 5: What's wrong with you? 536 00:24:40,840 --> 00:24:41,880 Speaker 3: I'm being out with you. 537 00:24:42,000 --> 00:24:45,960 Speaker 5: It's a public service announcement and the reason I say 538 00:24:46,000 --> 00:24:48,080 Speaker 5: this and Kevin, I'm that serious. 539 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:53,600 Speaker 3: When the NBA in twenty. 540 00:24:53,359 --> 00:24:57,080 Speaker 5: Seventeen gave players a chance to vote for the NBA 541 00:24:57,240 --> 00:25:03,119 Speaker 5: All Star Team, one hundred and twenty eight of the 542 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 5: three hundred and twenty four players did not vote for 543 00:25:06,880 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 5: Lebron James. One hundred and fifty four players out of 544 00:25:12,600 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 5: three twenty four did not vote for Kevin Durant. They 545 00:25:20,040 --> 00:25:24,000 Speaker 5: have skin in the game. They're never gonna be honest. 546 00:25:24,600 --> 00:25:25,840 Speaker 5: They're never going. 547 00:25:25,680 --> 00:25:29,400 Speaker 3: To tell you the real Oh you know what I mean? 548 00:25:30,200 --> 00:25:33,040 Speaker 5: You would to tell me in an exhibition game, people 549 00:25:33,040 --> 00:25:34,439 Speaker 5: couldn't look at Lebron Jays. 550 00:25:34,440 --> 00:25:36,199 Speaker 3: How in the world did you not vote for him? 551 00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:40,920 Speaker 5: It's an exhibition it's an all star game, Caitlin Clark, Right, 552 00:25:42,240 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 5: it's an all star game. Really, they're not honest with you. 553 00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:52,320 Speaker 5: They're in bed with too many people. Oh so and 554 00:25:52,359 --> 00:25:54,440 Speaker 5: so's my girl, or that's my boy. I don't want 555 00:25:54,440 --> 00:25:56,680 Speaker 5: to do that. Or are we in the same fraternity, 556 00:25:57,160 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: or we had the same age, you know, we went 557 00:25:59,359 --> 00:26:02,480 Speaker 5: the same colleg They can't give you a straight answer. 558 00:26:02,480 --> 00:26:05,040 Speaker 5: That's why they hate Charles Barkley. He can give you 559 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,320 Speaker 5: a straight answer. Most can listen to the podcast. They're 560 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:14,639 Speaker 5: telling you these crazy things. Shaq's telling you that Steph's uh, 561 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:17,560 Speaker 5: you know that. On one end it should be in 562 00:26:17,600 --> 00:26:21,280 Speaker 5: a go conversation. And then on another hand, Shaq's telling 563 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,480 Speaker 5: you that Kareem abdul Jaba is not in his top 564 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:24,720 Speaker 5: five or top ten. 565 00:26:24,760 --> 00:26:26,760 Speaker 3: I don't think he's in his top ten. He not 566 00:26:26,800 --> 00:26:27,960 Speaker 3: even your top ten. 567 00:26:29,560 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 5: Except who he told people that that he got to 568 00:26:32,280 --> 00:26:35,159 Speaker 5: be in that conversation. Now, of course, there was a 569 00:26:35,200 --> 00:26:39,200 Speaker 5: pole recently in baseball most exciting players in baseball. 570 00:26:39,359 --> 00:26:42,600 Speaker 3: Aaron Judgment is a distant six or distant third. 571 00:26:43,080 --> 00:26:47,200 Speaker 5: Like, really, I thought chicks loved the prolonged ball him? 572 00:26:48,080 --> 00:26:48,760 Speaker 3: Am I wrong? 573 00:26:49,119 --> 00:26:50,800 Speaker 5: He is one of the most Exactly when he comes 574 00:26:50,840 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 5: up to the bat, you going to go to the 575 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 5: bathroom or go get a drink. 576 00:26:54,359 --> 00:26:57,040 Speaker 3: No, you're not. We sit here every night the game 577 00:26:57,160 --> 00:26:59,159 Speaker 3: is on. Tell me we don't look. 578 00:26:59,040 --> 00:27:02,960 Speaker 5: Over one of us for sure. Absolutely. My point on 579 00:27:03,080 --> 00:27:06,520 Speaker 5: this is this is not just about Caitlin. 580 00:27:06,760 --> 00:27:07,359 Speaker 3: It's not. 581 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:10,120 Speaker 6: This is where you. 582 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:14,000 Speaker 3: Have when you have other players. 583 00:27:15,720 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 5: Trying to give you analysis on other players. They always 584 00:27:20,560 --> 00:27:24,520 Speaker 5: rip the media that we all you guys are haters. No, 585 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 5: we're haters. Kelvin, you can't tell me when you heard 586 00:27:29,520 --> 00:27:32,120 Speaker 5: that poll that you didn't think about this, because we've 587 00:27:32,160 --> 00:27:35,280 Speaker 5: seen this over and over. They can't be honest with 588 00:27:35,320 --> 00:27:38,960 Speaker 5: each other and they can't give a true evaluation. There's 589 00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:43,080 Speaker 5: too many issues and too much other stuff that's involved. 590 00:27:43,320 --> 00:27:47,119 Speaker 5: So it's not a female caddy jealous thing. This is 591 00:27:47,440 --> 00:27:51,280 Speaker 5: about players having skin in the game, and they can't 592 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:54,920 Speaker 5: give you an honest take. That's why this keeps happening. 593 00:27:55,320 --> 00:27:57,199 Speaker 1: So you just brought up something. I think it was 594 00:27:57,359 --> 00:27:59,280 Speaker 1: human nature for people to want to go to. I 595 00:27:59,280 --> 00:28:02,240 Speaker 1: think the minute comes out, people are gonna go, oh man, 596 00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:04,480 Speaker 1: here they go again. This is why they can't have nothing. 597 00:28:04,480 --> 00:28:06,400 Speaker 1: This is why women can't come together. This is why 598 00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,760 Speaker 1: cam and women can't stand united and stuff like this. 599 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,920 Speaker 1: The women and women in my right and you're absolutely right. 600 00:28:11,960 --> 00:28:15,560 Speaker 1: This happens all the time in sports where when you 601 00:28:15,640 --> 00:28:19,000 Speaker 1: ask him a question about a certain player, multiple things happen. 602 00:28:19,119 --> 00:28:21,520 Speaker 1: Number One, if I'm sitting next to you and we 603 00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:23,160 Speaker 1: both got this hurt, I got to you, my dog, 604 00:28:23,200 --> 00:28:25,359 Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I gotta put write my 605 00:28:25,400 --> 00:28:27,920 Speaker 1: boy's name in. I gotta support from the team player, 606 00:28:27,960 --> 00:28:30,280 Speaker 1: our star player on this team. I gotta do that. 607 00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:32,320 Speaker 1: That's my guy. He's part of the Banana Boat Crew, 608 00:28:32,520 --> 00:28:34,560 Speaker 1: So I gotta put the Banana Boat Crew on. And 609 00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:37,120 Speaker 1: it happens all the time. It also happens when guys 610 00:28:37,119 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: are beef. Remember when Paul Pierce didn't talk about he 611 00:28:40,160 --> 00:28:42,600 Speaker 1: couldn't even and and Lebron's not even in the top ten, and. 612 00:28:42,640 --> 00:28:44,280 Speaker 5: I mean, like, like, god, can you look at Paul 613 00:28:44,320 --> 00:28:47,680 Speaker 5: Pierce seriously? And Paul Pierce is like, dude, come on. 614 00:28:47,920 --> 00:28:50,560 Speaker 1: You used to literally say how excited you were to 615 00:28:50,560 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: go battle this guy because I'm gona show him everybody. 616 00:28:52,600 --> 00:28:54,040 Speaker 1: You know, he was the guy and I want to 617 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:56,320 Speaker 1: go at him in these big playoffs. Why because he 618 00:28:56,440 --> 00:28:58,760 Speaker 1: was the guy and you wanted to say, Hey, I'm 619 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,360 Speaker 1: the guy too. 620 00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:01,760 Speaker 3: So this happens all the time. 621 00:29:01,840 --> 00:29:03,800 Speaker 1: And I'm so glad we're talking about this because I 622 00:29:03,800 --> 00:29:07,000 Speaker 1: think it has been bred in our minds, has been 623 00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:09,240 Speaker 1: fed to us that you're supposed to be to go, oh, 624 00:29:09,320 --> 00:29:11,520 Speaker 1: that's just how women are, right. This is the first 625 00:29:11,560 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: thing that everybody everybody's gonna say it's women on women, 626 00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,080 Speaker 1: this is the issue. And no, maybe in some other instances, 627 00:29:17,080 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 1: maybe some other athlet I said that they don't have 628 00:29:18,800 --> 00:29:19,360 Speaker 1: their own thing. 629 00:29:19,440 --> 00:29:23,680 Speaker 5: But the numbers we gave one hundred and twenty eight 630 00:29:23,720 --> 00:29:26,080 Speaker 5: did not vote for Lebron, one fifty four for k 631 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:29,680 Speaker 5: This is twenty seventeen, This is the last year, this 632 00:29:29,720 --> 00:29:31,840 Speaker 5: is when they were in their prime, would be asinine. 633 00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,760 Speaker 1: And even do it last year, but you know what 634 00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,960 Speaker 1: I'm saying, it even worse twenty but you know what 635 00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:39,880 Speaker 1: I'm saying, like twenty seventeen. And I think that also 636 00:29:39,960 --> 00:29:42,920 Speaker 1: the challenge too. I was talking about this earlier. I 637 00:29:43,000 --> 00:29:50,240 Speaker 1: do believe the WUWNBA is starved for attention, right, meaning 638 00:29:50,280 --> 00:29:53,400 Speaker 1: there's some great players who have never got there just 639 00:29:53,520 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: due just because we just weren't covering the league like 640 00:29:56,200 --> 00:29:58,440 Speaker 1: this up until the last couple of years. So I 641 00:29:58,480 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: do think there is an inherent like, well, if we're 642 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: getting this eyeballs, now, why she get you know, why 643 00:30:04,560 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 1: does she get the moment or why not? Or I 644 00:30:06,760 --> 00:30:10,760 Speaker 1: would even argue this some ain't hate some of it is. 645 00:30:11,480 --> 00:30:13,959 Speaker 1: I want to give her the praise because she's Skyler 646 00:30:14,040 --> 00:30:16,200 Speaker 1: Diggins for a minute, for example, right in one of 647 00:30:16,240 --> 00:30:18,520 Speaker 1: the faces of the leagues for you know, ten years 648 00:30:18,520 --> 00:30:20,719 Speaker 1: now whatever, it is like she she's still really good. 649 00:30:20,800 --> 00:30:23,240 Speaker 1: But like if I'm voting, I want to give her 650 00:30:23,320 --> 00:30:26,360 Speaker 1: her props because it's like, hey, the eyeballs are runners. Now, 651 00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:30,240 Speaker 1: let me highlight her almost in a supportive way. Let 652 00:30:30,280 --> 00:30:34,160 Speaker 1: me highlight, but Sobrina and Younescu, let me highlight. But 653 00:30:34,280 --> 00:30:36,240 Speaker 1: there's all so Si Mitchell, you know, and I think 654 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:38,800 Speaker 1: there's a bit of that, like, oh, everybody's watching now. 655 00:30:38,720 --> 00:30:40,600 Speaker 6: I'm a big up this person. 656 00:30:40,720 --> 00:30:43,840 Speaker 5: For her to be ninth, it's just just it goes 657 00:30:43,920 --> 00:30:45,680 Speaker 5: with what I'm bringing up. 658 00:30:46,000 --> 00:30:47,640 Speaker 3: And I'm that serious when I talk about this. 659 00:30:47,760 --> 00:30:49,680 Speaker 5: You know, this is this is one of my things 660 00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:53,400 Speaker 5: because we're always as I as, I always give you 661 00:30:53,240 --> 00:30:59,080 Speaker 5: the evidence and the stuff that I'm proud of. Writers 662 00:30:59,080 --> 00:31:02,560 Speaker 5: are haters and they hate this. And Barry Bond, no, no, no, 663 00:31:02,800 --> 00:31:05,440 Speaker 5: Barry Bonds wasn't a good guy to the writers. You 664 00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:08,720 Speaker 5: even know, Barry Bond's treatment of the media wasn't good. 665 00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:12,080 Speaker 5: Guess what he won seven m vps. You can't tell 666 00:31:12,120 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 5: me that we aren't right. Easily we could have been 667 00:31:16,720 --> 00:31:19,120 Speaker 5: like what oh, here on time for us. Okay, MVP, 668 00:31:19,240 --> 00:31:21,320 Speaker 5: let's vote for somebody. No, he was the best player 669 00:31:21,320 --> 00:31:24,640 Speaker 5: in baseball. He has to win the MVP. Where's your credibility? 670 00:31:24,880 --> 00:31:29,680 Speaker 5: And as former players, this is the issue. This is 671 00:31:29,720 --> 00:31:32,240 Speaker 5: the issue. You even hear like old time guys like 672 00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,680 Speaker 5: Terry Bradshaw talk about people and players and and who 673 00:31:36,720 --> 00:31:42,480 Speaker 5: is a shady McCoy called Dak Prescott as on television? 674 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 5: What I'm supposed to go back to you to get 675 00:31:45,560 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 5: a fair assessment? You might not lie, dude, I'm not 676 00:31:48,480 --> 00:31:50,480 Speaker 5: a big Dak Prescott. I could go and win you 677 00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:54,520 Speaker 5: a super Bowl, But the call the guy as really and. 678 00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,400 Speaker 1: You brought up Charles. There are a handful of people 679 00:31:57,480 --> 00:31:59,640 Speaker 1: who are good at separating that. And you know what 680 00:31:59,680 --> 00:32:01,480 Speaker 1: I'll give for the most part, he's had his couple 681 00:32:01,520 --> 00:32:03,440 Speaker 1: of moments for here and there. But your boy, you know, 682 00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: your good friend Steven A. Were I might not personally 683 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:09,960 Speaker 1: rock with Kevin Durant, but he'll acknowledge Kevin Duranz. I 684 00:32:10,040 --> 00:32:11,960 Speaker 1: might not personally him and Lebron got into it. But 685 00:32:12,000 --> 00:32:13,400 Speaker 1: if you ask him who's the best player, and he's 686 00:32:13,400 --> 00:32:15,160 Speaker 1: gonna say Jordan and Lebron, Like he's not gonna say 687 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:18,400 Speaker 1: Lebron is fifteen, and I'll give I'll give him credit, 688 00:32:18,480 --> 00:32:19,240 Speaker 1: but that's what I'm. 689 00:32:19,080 --> 00:32:22,640 Speaker 5: Saying, like your own credibility is there for the writers 690 00:32:22,720 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 5: or for the broadcasters seriously, and for Paul Pierce and 691 00:32:26,320 --> 00:32:29,200 Speaker 5: these guys with a straight face to say Lebron's not 692 00:32:29,240 --> 00:32:32,000 Speaker 5: in their top ten. Dude, I don't know. Like you 693 00:32:32,120 --> 00:32:35,040 Speaker 5: played out there. You know what it takes. Come on, 694 00:32:35,200 --> 00:32:36,560 Speaker 5: dude and go bout that. 695 00:32:36,760 --> 00:32:38,920 Speaker 1: To go back to this, rob g my biggest issue, 696 00:32:38,920 --> 00:32:41,600 Speaker 1: because I will grant you this as we get ready 697 00:32:41,640 --> 00:32:44,760 Speaker 1: to break here, I'll grant you this. She's having a bad, 698 00:32:44,840 --> 00:32:46,640 Speaker 1: a down year for her because you thought you would 699 00:32:46,680 --> 00:32:49,240 Speaker 1: get a year where she went better than last year. 700 00:32:49,280 --> 00:32:51,360 Speaker 1: She's down compared to rookie years. She's been injured just 701 00:32:51,400 --> 00:32:53,840 Speaker 1: about half the season. So I'll give you that. But 702 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,000 Speaker 1: for her to be ninth, that's what I just said 703 00:32:56,160 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: you if it were four or fifth, I actually could 704 00:32:58,040 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: be okay with I get it, because other people are 705 00:32:59,600 --> 00:33:01,200 Speaker 1: having better year. She's not having a great year. She's 706 00:33:01,200 --> 00:33:03,560 Speaker 1: shooting the ball terribly from three, like twenty nine percent. 707 00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,720 Speaker 1: She had missed like what was it twenty eight and 708 00:33:06,880 --> 00:33:08,160 Speaker 1: yeah again on the road. 709 00:33:08,280 --> 00:33:10,000 Speaker 5: God knows I didn't see any of those misses, but 710 00:33:10,040 --> 00:33:12,240 Speaker 5: I heard about it. I'm just saying one for twenty eight. 711 00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:14,120 Speaker 1: So my point is, I'm not mad if she in 712 00:33:14,240 --> 00:33:16,680 Speaker 1: the best guard, I'm I'm it's a fact she's not. 713 00:33:17,560 --> 00:33:18,760 Speaker 1: And it's the fact that if you want to say 714 00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,200 Speaker 1: she second, third, fourth, ninth, but ninth was kind of crazy. 715 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,520 Speaker 1: And that's where like, all right, this that that went far. 716 00:33:24,680 --> 00:33:26,960 Speaker 1: If she's having a down year, hands, she would admit 717 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,120 Speaker 1: that she knows it, but ninth is wild.