Speaker 1: Hello everyone, and welcome to another episode of Inside the
Speaker 1: Studio on iHeart Radio. My name is Jordan Runt Tug,
Speaker 1: but enough about me. You were probably first introduced to
Speaker 1: my guests today when she played Ali Dawson on the
Speaker 1: Disney Channel series Austin and Ali. Since then, her career
Speaker 1: a sword across every medium. She started in the hit
Speaker 1: Netflix movie The Perfect Date and recently co starred alongside
Speaker 1: Robert de Niro in the War with Grandpa. And then,
Speaker 1: of course, she's making a name for herself in the
Speaker 1: musical world since she's released a pair of EPs, the
Speaker 1: first Called Me and the most recent Called You, their
Speaker 1: companion pieces, two sides of the same story, a tumultuous relationship.
Speaker 1: The music came at a crossroads in her life, yielding
Speaker 1: deeply heartfelt, introspective songs like Can't Hold On Forever and
Speaker 1: something to Believe In. These days, she's revisiting tracks from
Speaker 1: You in exciting new ways. In April, she released a
Speaker 1: remix of Honest with You by Alex TBH, and a
Speaker 1: new version of her track Can't Help Myself is out now,
Speaker 1: featuring a Little Help from Polios and a verse from
Speaker 1: Gen Doe Calling from Australia, where she's filming a new movie.
Speaker 1: I'm so thrilled to welcome Laura Morana. Oh, Jordan, I
Speaker 1: absolute flusher. Thank you for having me so, because first off,
Speaker 1: you've had two EPs in the last two years, Me
Speaker 1: and and You last fall. What's the relationship between those
Speaker 1: two EPs? How did they relate to one another? So
Speaker 1: when I was getting ready to release Me, you know,
Speaker 1: that started originally from me writing kind of the title
Speaker 1: song off that EP, which is called Me talking about
Speaker 1: the song at EP, they think you're talking about yourself,
Speaker 1: but you know when I started, I feel like the
Speaker 1: project really got going from writing that song. Though there
Speaker 1: are other songs I wrote before that that definitely had
Speaker 1: a place in this Me and You universe. But that's
Speaker 1: when I was like, oh love that song. I love
Speaker 1: that vibe. And you know, I kind of come from
Speaker 1: two labels in a time in my life where I
Speaker 1: was going through also a lot of kind of personal changes.
Speaker 1: You know, I was going through a breakup, it's kind
Speaker 1: of starting to fall in love again as well, and
Speaker 1: so you know, from that whole experience came the EP ME.
Speaker 1: But as I was writing for Me, it became very
Speaker 1: clear that I had more of the story to tell,
Speaker 1: and then I've wanted to kind of continue that story
Speaker 1: in some way, and I right away sort of thinking
Speaker 1: I'd love to release another EP called You, where it
Speaker 1: feels like it's the other side of the story. It
Speaker 1: feels like there's some songs or kind of sequels to
Speaker 1: the other some songs are kind of another again aspect
Speaker 1: of the story. You know, My favorite kind of comparison
Speaker 1: to show is on the me E P I have
Speaker 1: a song called Lye to Me, and on the UP
Speaker 1: I have a song called Honest with You. So it's
Speaker 1: a little bit from this theme of there's two sides
Speaker 1: to every story. There's two you know, it takes two
Speaker 1: people in a relationship, and so one person's perspective can
Speaker 1: be very different from another person's perspective, can be similar,
Speaker 1: can be related it. You know, I wanted to explore
Speaker 1: those different ideas and kind of keep the story going.
Speaker 1: And I knew that pretty immediately as I was working
Speaker 1: on the P you mentioned Honest with You. That's that's
Speaker 1: one of my favorite tracks on the new EP, honestly
Speaker 1: being the most important thing in a relationship and it's
Speaker 1: probably the scariest thing in a relationship. What is the
Speaker 1: genesis of that song? Yes, totally, well, exactly that, right.
Speaker 1: So it's so funny to me because lie to Me
Speaker 1: and Honest with You are about the same person and
Speaker 1: about the same situation. But in lie to Me, right,
Speaker 1: it's an aspect of let's not get serious, let's just
Speaker 1: like have fun in this moment, let's not worry about
Speaker 1: the future, let's just be right here right now. Honest
Speaker 1: with You is more serious. Honest with you is I
Speaker 1: have been hurt before. It's so scary to be vulnerable,
Speaker 1: but damn I want to take that next step and
Speaker 1: be honest with you. My kind of favorite aspect of
Speaker 1: that song is the question and almost the permission that
Speaker 1: you're asking of the person of can I be honest
Speaker 1: with you? Can can I be honest in this moment?
Speaker 1: You know both of are you ready to take that
Speaker 1: next step? And also you know again that vulnerability of
Speaker 1: are you going to hurt me? Like? Is are we
Speaker 1: going to go there? And you know, of course no
Speaker 1: one can ever answer that question truly, but when you're
Speaker 1: going in the relationship. I don't think anyone goes into
Speaker 1: a relationship being like I can't wait to get hurt
Speaker 1: or I can't wait to hurt this person. But you know,
Speaker 1: it's still when you take that step, it's so scary,
Speaker 1: but there comes to be a point where it just
Speaker 1: feels like the right thing to do. And so that
Speaker 1: was my idea and kind of the genesis of that song.
Speaker 1: You know, we Delacey and Edo are my coat writers
Speaker 1: of that song. We were in you know, Edo's studio
Speaker 1: in like Brooklyn, and we had already written kind of
Speaker 1: two other songs, like the two days prior, and so
Speaker 1: that song, Delacey and I had been kind of like
Speaker 1: gushing and talking about our relationships and all of the
Speaker 1: different things, and I was telling her how I was
Speaker 1: just trying to see this person and getting really serious,
Speaker 1: and she was like, let's let's let's do this. Let's
Speaker 1: let's go into that world. And one of my favorite
Speaker 1: parts of Honest with You is that demo vocal that
Speaker 1: we did in that kind of small studio in Brooklyn
Speaker 1: is the vocal in the song. It just was so right,
Speaker 1: it was so raw, and it felt like it needed
Speaker 1: to be in the final version. It was so instant.
Speaker 1: What was the studio in Brooklyn? That's where that's where
Speaker 1: I live? Oh, really, I think it was it just
Speaker 1: literally in a building that like there wasn't necessarily it
Speaker 1: wasn't like a named studio. Was exactly that, which is
Speaker 1: kind of my favorite thing. It was like this, um
Speaker 1: you know, you just go up, go into a room
Speaker 1: and you know, made it and made it a studio
Speaker 1: and it was it would just have the best vibe.
Speaker 1: I know, Brooklyn is kind of pretty incredible. It was.
Speaker 1: It was such a cool time in my life because
Speaker 1: I was really starting to feel I was out of
Speaker 1: l A for a really long time because I was
Speaker 1: filming a movie in Georgia, and then I went to
Speaker 1: New York to write, and then I went to Sweden
Speaker 1: to write, and it was just like all of these
Speaker 1: exciting things happening in my professional life, while also my
Speaker 1: personal life was going through its own kind of like
Speaker 1: ups and downs and roller coaster h of emotions. So
Speaker 1: it was it was such a just a really special
Speaker 1: time of my life. For sure. Sounds like the music
Speaker 1: was a catharsist in a lot of ways. Oh, I
Speaker 1: truly my breakup and my kind of personal journey through
Speaker 1: that and then getting into another relationship. I had never
Speaker 1: written the songs that I was writing in such a
Speaker 1: personal way. It was almost like every kind of song
Speaker 1: I'd worked on before that I would go into a
Speaker 1: room and it's so weird, Jordan, Right, you go into
Speaker 1: a room and you were kind of like, hey, good
Speaker 1: to meet you. Here are all my hopes and dreams. Yeah,
Speaker 1: you know, it's really intimate and weird. And I have
Speaker 1: so many walls up as a person. So it was
Speaker 1: always just it was really hard for me to crack
Speaker 1: those walls. And though I had some songs that I
Speaker 1: was writing before that that started that journey, it wasn't
Speaker 1: really until I was going through that time in my
Speaker 1: life where I was just like, I need to write
Speaker 1: about this and talk about this and just empty all
Speaker 1: of the thoughts that are going on in my head
Speaker 1: and empty all of the emotions that are going on
Speaker 1: in my heart and just lay it on the floor.
Speaker 1: And I feel like I wrote the best music that
Speaker 1: I ever had before. And it was so exciting. It
Speaker 1: was I was obsessed with the songs. I was so happy,
Speaker 1: and you know, I was at a label at the time,
Speaker 1: and when I ended up not working with that label anymore,
Speaker 1: I I was passionate of I have to take these
Speaker 1: songs with me and I have to put them out
Speaker 1: because they mean the world to me, you know, I
Speaker 1: really enjoy Its kind of devetails into another song that
Speaker 1: I was one of my favorites from the EP, Can't
Speaker 1: Help Myself. I just think the relationship dynamic that you're
Speaker 1: describing on that song is I feel like it's something
Speaker 1: I haven't really heard before. Can you talk a little
Speaker 1: bit more about what's going on in that song for you? Yes, okay.
Speaker 1: I love Can't Help Myself, and surely Can't Help Myself
Speaker 1: came because I was writing all this moody, emotional music
Speaker 1: and I kind of came into the room with this
Speaker 1: awesome producer, Johan, who was based in La at the
Speaker 1: time but he's Swedish, and I was like, yo, Han,
Speaker 1: I just want to write a fun song, Like, let's
Speaker 1: just write a fun, fun song that isn't taking itself
Speaker 1: too seriously. And so what I love about Can't Help
Speaker 1: Myself is that it comes from this place of having fun,
Speaker 1: but it is still a little bit of like a
Speaker 1: revenge um our, revenge break up hook up song. After
Speaker 1: I'm like, it's hard to completely pinpoint what exactly Can't
Speaker 1: Help Myself is on a general standpoint, but it's a
Speaker 1: specific standpoint. You know. It's about that moment of facing
Speaker 1: an X that ended things and realizing that they want
Speaker 1: you back and kind of taking advantage of that aspect
Speaker 1: and feeling this weird sort of pleasure and satisfaction of
Speaker 1: water and yes, and this weird kind of sense of
Speaker 1: empowerment of oh you want me back. Okay, well that's interesting.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna take a little control and leisure in this moment.
Speaker 1: It's it was so so fun to write, and you know,
Speaker 1: we didn't necessarily anticipate writing that concept. I think we
Speaker 1: started with the track, right We started with kind of
Speaker 1: like this, you know, bpm and this a few of
Speaker 1: like the differences that we had that we wrote that
Speaker 1: chorus melody and it was just right away, just another
Speaker 1: second till you're naked. We're like, what is this about?
Speaker 1: Like what is where are we going with this? And
Speaker 1: I kind of was instantly, for whatever reason, from that lyric,
Speaker 1: thinking of I love that it was just another second
Speaker 1: till you're naked, till the other person is And what
Speaker 1: is the genesis of that? Like what is the where
Speaker 1: did that come from? And from that question came this
Speaker 1: revenge break up hook up song. I mean, it's it
Speaker 1: definitely feels like just the moment when you're back in control. Fully,
Speaker 1: that was sort of when I first heard it, that
Speaker 1: was what I got from. It was really like, you
Speaker 1: are you are, You've moved on, and now you're back
Speaker 1: in the driver's seat. I don't know that was my
Speaker 1: take off, right, So it's it's that moment of when
Speaker 1: you end a relationship. And to be honest, it wasn't
Speaker 1: being really really real with you. It wasn't super based
Speaker 1: on anything in my personal life. Maybe in some professional
Speaker 1: aspects I was taking some inspiration, but definitely not personally.
Speaker 1: But it is that moment in any sort of end
Speaker 1: of relationship where you feel like you didn't control the
Speaker 1: end of that relationship. You weren't the reason why things ended,
Speaker 1: and that's really yes, but you've worked on yourself, you've
Speaker 1: moved on, and here you are in a moment where
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, yes, the dynamic switches and it's
Speaker 1: just feeling so good and taking advantage of that feeling.
Speaker 1: It's such a great track, and there's a brand new
Speaker 1: version of track that is out. I believe the day
Speaker 1: this this episode is out for Dring gen Doe. How
Speaker 1: did you first link up with her? Yes? Okay, So
Speaker 1: I was really excited to do another version of this
Speaker 1: song again, kind of continuing my thought of there's two
Speaker 1: sides to a story, there's multiple perspectives of a situation.
Speaker 1: I wanted to continue this you era EP group of
Speaker 1: music with remixes and with other artists putting their spin
Speaker 1: on the songs and their spins on the lyric and
Speaker 1: the concept and anything they really want to put their
Speaker 1: spin on, right. So, you know, I knew that I
Speaker 1: wanted to do a different version of this. I knew
Speaker 1: that I wanted to have a female on it. All.
Speaker 1: My other kind of duet remixes have all been with
Speaker 1: other kind of these amazing male artists who were incredible
Speaker 1: to work with. But I'm like, I I need some
Speaker 1: like female female power in can't help myself. I really
Speaker 1: need to make it happen. So John Doe was someone
Speaker 1: that I was a fan of her music. I was
Speaker 1: kind of talking to my team about whom be a
Speaker 1: good partner here, and we came up with some names,
Speaker 1: but John Doe, you know, I was like I kept
Speaker 1: kind of coming back to her and feeling like, ah,
Speaker 1: I feel like she's going to make a great partner
Speaker 1: in this, and sure enough we gave her the song.
Speaker 1: She was into the song. She wrote this dope verse
Speaker 1: and was just like, you know, let's do this, let's
Speaker 1: make it happen. And then from the verse that she gave,
Speaker 1: we then got in touch with this other kind of
Speaker 1: amazing female artist who is diving into producing. Her name's Polio's.
Speaker 1: She actually then added some production elements and kind of
Speaker 1: reproduced the track with her producing partner Stanley, and so
Speaker 1: it had all this like kind of dope female energy
Speaker 1: which I feel like made just to me completely kind
Speaker 1: of elevated the song into I love the original version
Speaker 1: so much, but this version I think I kind of prefer.
Speaker 1: It just feels really really good and really just the
Speaker 1: flow is amazing. The verse that John Doe added is fantastic.
Speaker 1: All the kind of production elements that are new are
Speaker 1: really great. So I was so excited by this version.
Speaker 1: I mean, it is such a banger. You're right, I mean,
Speaker 1: it just it feels It's definitely something when we can
Speaker 1: go back out to uh to have you know, dance
Speaker 1: parties and clubs and stuff, is something you could definitely
Speaker 1: just here there yes, a hundred perscent. I feel that
Speaker 1: so hard, and even like when people start coming over
Speaker 1: to people's houses again and you have like a little
Speaker 1: like pick back house party vibe, I feel like it's
Speaker 1: the perfect song to just have on a playlist and
Speaker 1: have that vibe. It's just so I love it. I
Speaker 1: love it so much. I'm the complete flip side of
Speaker 1: that something I love for for completely different reasons. Your
Speaker 1: stripped down version of Something to Believe In is just
Speaker 1: is gorgeous. And I know you've said that that you
Speaker 1: have a special place in your heart for that song.
Speaker 1: What is it about that song that that really resonates
Speaker 1: with you? Oh man? So that song is the oldest
Speaker 1: song on both EPs, both of me and you EP.
Speaker 1: I've had that song for ages. I think I read
Speaker 1: that song in twenty thirteen or twenty four teen, really
Speaker 1: long time ago, right, and just always want to go
Speaker 1: back to the song and the original version that we
Speaker 1: had and just feel like, I love this song. Doesn't
Speaker 1: feel right for me right now, you know, I knew
Speaker 1: I always want to kind of to update some aspects
Speaker 1: of it, but it didn't feel right for so many
Speaker 1: years to kind of put out and then you know,
Speaker 1: when I was making the U E P and I
Speaker 1: was writing some new music, I was going back to
Speaker 1: some older music. I happened to kind of come across
Speaker 1: it again. And with everything that happened to not just me,
Speaker 1: but to kind of everyone in something to believe in,
Speaker 1: weirdly felt so right in the time to put out
Speaker 1: for me, and so much of it I resonated with
Speaker 1: so deeply, And so I thought that was such a
Speaker 1: really special aspect of the song that here I am
Speaker 1: listening to a song I wrote literally years ago, and
Speaker 1: I've never resonated with more than what seven six years
Speaker 1: later when I listened back to it, and so I
Speaker 1: was like, Okay, the song needs to be on the EP.
Speaker 1: I completely reproduced it, you know, we added some kind
Speaker 1: of different aspects, but to be honest, the lyrical content
Speaker 1: really stayed the same. I felt so connected to it,
Speaker 1: and it just felt very true for the moment that
Speaker 1: I was in, and I hope that it was going
Speaker 1: to kind of resonate with other people. I'm sure enough.
Speaker 1: It feels like I feel like it's actually the song
Speaker 1: off my EU EP that has resonated the most of
Speaker 1: my fans, which is really special and pretty amazing. Lyrics
Speaker 1: of that song are so mature. I mean, it's it
Speaker 1: blows my mind to think he was very young when
Speaker 1: you wrote that. It almost seems like your life had
Speaker 1: to catch up to all the experience in those words,
Speaker 1: unlike a hundred percent, like maybe I had. I don't
Speaker 1: even know if I was. I think I had maybe
Speaker 1: just started dating someone, But I don't think, to be honest,
Speaker 1: when we wrote it, that happens so much, Jordan, right.
Speaker 1: Sometimes again, this is actually a time before I felt
Speaker 1: like I really unlocked my own vulnerability in my writing.
Speaker 1: So you kind of go into a room sometimes and
Speaker 1: I think I brought another concept in that was like
Speaker 1: somewhat similar but not really necessarily true to my life.
Speaker 1: I just thought it was kind of a cool lyric
Speaker 1: and we kind of built on that and change things
Speaker 1: and alter things, turn things upside down and you know,
Speaker 1: something to believe and was kind of born. But it
Speaker 1: was not something that I necessarily resonated deeply with in
Speaker 1: that moment at all, and that that was kind of
Speaker 1: very similar to my writing at that point where I
Speaker 1: would love the song. I love writing just in general.
Speaker 1: I think it's a creative outlet no matter what but
Speaker 1: I wasn't really looking deep into myself to unlock anything.
Speaker 1: But sure enough, weirdly, weirdly enough, this song is something
Speaker 1: that I felt very vulnerably connected to. I know that's
Speaker 1: not a phrase, but we'll make it a phrase in
Speaker 1: it just was so right you imagined connecting to your
Speaker 1: vulnerability as a songwriter. How does one, as specifically in songwriting,
Speaker 1: but also just as an artist in general, break through
Speaker 1: those walls and reach that place of vulnerability in your art?
Speaker 1: Is it just? Is it practice? Is it? You know,
Speaker 1: self reflection? Is I guess there's probably no easy answer
Speaker 1: to that, But but how did you get to that place?
Speaker 1: I think that's a great question, and I think kind
Speaker 1: of what you were saying as well, I think it's
Speaker 1: it's not that there's not an easy answer. I think
Speaker 1: it truly is different for everyone. And so what unlock
Speaker 1: that for me was going through a really hard time
Speaker 1: in my life, was going through a personal crossroads and
Speaker 1: a time where I really had to face a lot
Speaker 1: of pain. And I felt like for so many years
Speaker 1: I always was writing and always kind of turned to
Speaker 1: writing because I just loved it. But in that time,
Speaker 1: writing wasn't just something I love to do writing with
Speaker 1: something I had to do to get what was going
Speaker 1: on inside of me out, you know, And so it
Speaker 1: was so therapeutic, it was so necessary for me to do,
Speaker 1: and that was it's hard to describe. It was almost
Speaker 1: like I had to get vulnerable and and put everything
Speaker 1: I was thinking into songs. And by the way, there
Speaker 1: were still some songs I wrote from a vulnerability that
Speaker 1: were terrible, that were lying not good, but it was
Speaker 1: it didn't matter. It was just like the purpose for you,
Speaker 1: they got you, Yes, exactly exactly. It was just something
Speaker 1: I had to do. It was almost it wasn't something
Speaker 1: I was necessarily even super aware of until retrospectively thinking
Speaker 1: about it. It was just I need to talk about
Speaker 1: what I've been going through and what happened to me
Speaker 1: and and all those things. What is your process like?
Speaker 1: Is it something that is music, something that you do
Speaker 1: every day like people do meditation every day or work
Speaker 1: out every day, or is it something that you go
Speaker 1: to when you feel inspired? Do you feel that you
Speaker 1: have something to say? Yeah, you know, I think it
Speaker 1: changes for me. I think, um, whenever I spend weeks
Speaker 1: or months doing it every day, I feel so happy
Speaker 1: and I enjoy it so thoroughly. Sometimes, however, it's just
Speaker 1: like if I full on and kind of filming a
Speaker 1: movie or in my acting career, I don't necessarily put
Speaker 1: that kind of meditation esque aspect to it because it
Speaker 1: just feels like I don't have time. But to that point,
Speaker 1: there are times like I was just away filming a
Speaker 1: movie and there were just times where I had an
Speaker 1: idea and I like quickly left, you know, to my
Speaker 1: dressing room or about room or anything, and like grabbed
Speaker 1: my I've had or any kind of voice memo situation,
Speaker 1: just like quickly saying an idea. But I prefer when
Speaker 1: I actually put the time in and have that in
Speaker 1: every day because I feel like, not only does that
Speaker 1: help me just as an artist, and you are so
Speaker 1: much better when you do that and you spend the time,
Speaker 1: but I just I actually feel the like personal effects
Speaker 1: of that and feel a little bit more at peace.
Speaker 1: But it is it's a time consuming aspect, So when
Speaker 1: I'm working on something else, I don't spend as much
Speaker 1: time as I wish I could, and yet inspiration will
Speaker 1: strike and I will follow that. This is probably a
Speaker 1: naive question from somebody who has never written a song
Speaker 1: in their in their life, and will is never likely
Speaker 1: to I use superstitious in any way about writing. Is
Speaker 1: there an instrument that you always feel like you need
Speaker 1: to use, or a place or a time of day
Speaker 1: or anything like that. Oh I love that. No, because
Speaker 1: I just you're a well adjusted person. No, not because
Speaker 1: of that. I just truly feel like inspiration can kind
Speaker 1: of strike anywhere, right, And I'm I've been in so
Speaker 1: many different studios at different times, and I do feel
Speaker 1: like there are sometimes when I feel like I go
Speaker 1: into a session and I'll know a little bit immediately
Speaker 1: if it's going to be a good session or not,
Speaker 1: or if the song will turn out. Um, and sometimes
Speaker 1: I totally down. But I will say I do have
Speaker 1: this weird feeling that I don't know, it's hard to
Speaker 1: describe that, Like when you write a song by yourself
Speaker 1: or with somebody. Okay, I'm gonna describe this so terribly,
Speaker 1: But it's not that you're writing the song. It's almost
Speaker 1: like you're finding the song. The songs has kind of
Speaker 1: been already written. You and your creative partners or you
Speaker 1: by yourself are on this journey in this session to
Speaker 1: unlock this song. And I feel like looking at it
Speaker 1: like that is kind of weird, but it feels very appropriate.
Speaker 1: I mean, there have been songs where they could have
Speaker 1: been you could have gone in so many other directions
Speaker 1: for a song, but every version pointed to and needed
Speaker 1: to be you know, this melody, this lyric, this structure,
Speaker 1: this production, this track, and it just it's you're working
Speaker 1: constantly to find that song. Does that make sense? Absolutely?
Speaker 1: There was I don't know if it was a joke
Speaker 1: or something that some famous sculptor said when they got
Speaker 1: a block of you know, square block of stone in
Speaker 1: front of them and and made you know, beautiful horse
Speaker 1: sculpture something out of it, and somebody say, how did
Speaker 1: you do that? And they said, oh, I chipped away
Speaker 1: all the rocks that didn't look like a horse. And
Speaker 1: you know it's like, yeah, was there, you know. But
Speaker 1: the people like me, it's like what are you talking about?
Speaker 1: But to you, the artist, you just you knew what
Speaker 1: to get, like move away from, and there it was. Well.
Speaker 1: I think there's something really special about that mentality because
Speaker 1: it feels it almost in a weird way, takes the
Speaker 1: pressure off in one way, right, but it also just
Speaker 1: feels I don't know, it sounds like super weird, but
Speaker 1: it feels like when you're creating some sort of art.
Speaker 1: I guess when you're creating anything, but when you're creating
Speaker 1: some sort of art, you you feel it's gonna sound
Speaker 1: so intense but weirdly connected with the universe in this
Speaker 1: weird way of Okay, how are we creating something that's
Speaker 1: going to resonate with people that already, in a weird way,
Speaker 1: exists in its own form, and we just have to
Speaker 1: kind of find it. I didn't always necessarily look at
Speaker 1: that the way, but that, to be honest, it kind
Speaker 1: of made sense in my past writing experiences of I
Speaker 1: would just sing what was happening in my head, and
Speaker 1: everything felt very natural, and I think it was really
Speaker 1: coming from a place of just the song exists, and
Speaker 1: I'm singing what this song is in its existing form,
Speaker 1: even though it's never been app before. Was music your
Speaker 1: first love? Was that? What you knew that you know
Speaker 1: early on that you wanted to devote your life too.
Speaker 1: But I was in such a weird situation of I
Speaker 1: was always doing music, but in the entertaining industry understandably so.
Speaker 1: And there are rare cases, but most of the time
Speaker 1: you can't professionally do music at like five, right the
Speaker 1: acting industry, the acting industry is super weird because you
Speaker 1: can't professionally act at five. So acting professionally happened for
Speaker 1: me first. But music was always what I was kind
Speaker 1: of doing before, and to be honest, I just didn't
Speaker 1: know how to do it pally. And you know, I
Speaker 1: had of my space at like a love it or
Speaker 1: twelve and a SoundCloud that I released music, But it
Speaker 1: wasn't until I was doing Austinality that I got the
Speaker 1: opportunity to do music and acting at the same time
Speaker 1: and then pursue music professionally, which was I will always
Speaker 1: forever be grateful for. Is it every challenge to balance
Speaker 1: the acting in the music or does one inform the
Speaker 1: other when you kind of need to let the well
Speaker 1: fill for for the performance side, you go to music
Speaker 1: and vice versa. You know, I think it is a challenge. Um,
Speaker 1: I think there are definitely times when they inform each other,
Speaker 1: but there is a level of like there are two
Speaker 1: full time jobs, right, so making sure that I am
Speaker 1: being consistent and spending the time for each of those
Speaker 1: aspects is challenging, right, But I think I look at
Speaker 1: it two different ways. I look at it from the
Speaker 1: business aspect, and I looked at it from the artist aspect,
Speaker 1: and just as an artist in general. I love creating,
Speaker 1: and I love creating any sort of aspect, whether that
Speaker 1: is something that involves my life and my world, which
Speaker 1: is how I view my music, or something that is
Speaker 1: involving another world, another person, another story to tell, which
Speaker 1: is how I kind of view my acting. So I
Speaker 1: feel so fulfilled by both of those aspects of my
Speaker 1: life so much and I can't imagine my life without it.
Speaker 1: But from a business aspect, right, it is like any
Speaker 1: sort of job. You wouldn't take ten months off one
Speaker 1: job and only do it two months, So it's it
Speaker 1: is a challenge to really dedicate and commit the appropriate
Speaker 1: time for each I think what I've started doing in
Speaker 1: my life, as much as I can help it is
Speaker 1: be in charge of being my own boss a little bit, right.
Speaker 1: So for film and television, I have very early stages
Speaker 1: but gone into kind of the producing aspect, right So,
Speaker 1: I've just finished working on this movie that I was
Speaker 1: producing as well, which is amazing, and you kind of
Speaker 1: have a little bit more control when you're in the
Speaker 1: driver's scene in that way for music, I'm doing things independent.
Speaker 1: Not to say that I wouldn't ever do a label
Speaker 1: situation again or anything in that matter, but I will
Speaker 1: say doing it independently, your your own boss. You're in
Speaker 1: charge of your release schedule, which I think for me
Speaker 1: is really helpful of I don't have to wait on
Speaker 1: releasing music four months and months and months and plan
Speaker 1: everything around labels other kind of repertoire or list of
Speaker 1: artists that they're putting out or you know, YadA, YadA, YadA.
Speaker 1: I can be in charge of my own schedule and
Speaker 1: be in charge my own kind of creative plan that
Speaker 1: I want to do. So those aspects of being in
Speaker 1: charge and being your own boss, I think does make
Speaker 1: things a little bit easier, but it is challenging for sure.
Speaker 1: I'm sure insane with self motivated for either one of those,
Speaker 1: but the two together, yeah, I know, I am. I
Speaker 1: think it's also time management, which I am constantly getting
Speaker 1: better and is a struggle. But I do feel like
Speaker 1: I have always had a weird aspect of time management,
Speaker 1: even from a young age, of doing you know, school
Speaker 1: at the same time as filming a show. I think
Speaker 1: you just had to kind of be like, Okay, this
Speaker 1: is the time I can do this project, have to
Speaker 1: do it, this is the time. Blah blah blah blah
Speaker 1: blah blah. But yeah, I think in some ways right
Speaker 1: as a musician, as an artist, you also you do
Speaker 1: make your own schedule more than you do as an
Speaker 1: actor and actress. So I do feel like it is
Speaker 1: a little bit turning off one mentality and turning on
Speaker 1: another mentality of Okay, I'm in charge my schedule as
Speaker 1: an actor again, going into the producing world, you become
Speaker 1: a little bit more in charge of your schedule, but
Speaker 1: you're still so dependent on so many other people and
Speaker 1: things that you are a little bit like you tell
Speaker 1: me where to be and I'll be there, And you
Speaker 1: don't do that as an artist. And I kind of
Speaker 1: love that you don't do as an artist, but I
Speaker 1: know some people who do do both can struggle with
Speaker 1: that because it is there is a level of self
Speaker 1: motivation that has to be there that is hard to
Speaker 1: do in this industry. Oh my god, well you you
Speaker 1: excel at both. It has been such a joy and
Speaker 1: a delight talking. My last question before I let you go,
Speaker 1: what is next for you? What what can fans look
Speaker 1: forward to coming down the pike. I know, obviously going
Speaker 1: out on the road is probably a little ways off.
Speaker 1: You had your digital tour for you, but what else
Speaker 1: is coming now? Yes, you know, so I definitely am
Speaker 1: starting to look way way outwards, so note, but looking
Speaker 1: at going out on the road. So that is definitely
Speaker 1: in the cards at one point in the next two years,
Speaker 1: but on a sooner kind of path. I'm definitely very
Speaker 1: excited to release some more music in this you era world,
Speaker 1: and then I'm going to be kind of just taking
Speaker 1: a little bit of a hate hiatus to write some
Speaker 1: more new music and get ready for another release. You know,
Speaker 1: who knows when when I kind of finished the story
Speaker 1: I want to tell. So I'm really excited this summer
Speaker 1: to just really focus on writing and creating because I
Speaker 1: have been in so released format and very much like
Speaker 1: remix duet world, which has been amazing. But excited to
Speaker 1: work on some new music and tell some more stories.
Speaker 1: Let's see, You've got the E P, the u EPs.
Speaker 1: There is there a m EP or something on the
Speaker 1: horizon or I don't know. I think we'll have to see. Oh,
Speaker 1: we can't wait. Look, thank you so much for your
Speaker 1: time and your music. It's it's been so great talking you.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much, Jordan, You're so lovely. Thank you
Speaker 1: so much. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Inside
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