Speaker 1: What's that at bed? It's spooky and joky. I'm really
Speaker 1: sure it's dead. He's coming this way.
Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he.
Speaker 1: Said, Nandaz Please, hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome
Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk
Speaker 1: to people that I like about the paranormal.
Speaker 2: Oh my gord.
Speaker 1: I was joined on this episode by Zachariah Porter, who
Speaker 1: is someone that I became a huge fan of because
Speaker 1: of his hilarious Instagram. I'm sure TikTok to video. I
Speaker 1: follow him on instag I'm more of an Instagram person myself.
Speaker 1: Very funny, very very funny person. Okay, and the Instagram,
Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking in the millions, honey followers, so
Speaker 1: I ain't alone in that. We had a great time.
Speaker 1: We even get a Teresa Capudo first hand story from
Speaker 1: Zachariah Porter. Can't wait for you to listen. Hey, I
Speaker 1: have one fun announcement about me and and my career.
Speaker 1: You know, I record these far in advance, so I
Speaker 1: don't know the exact dates of this and that at
Speaker 1: this very very moment that I'm recording this, but I
Speaker 1: am planning a stand up comedy tour and I'm really
Speaker 1: trying to hit a ton of cities because I'm going
Speaker 1: to be doing most of my shows. I mean, I
Speaker 1: would say ninety nine percent of my shows at queer,
Speaker 1: oh o venues. So we're talking gay bars, that sort
Speaker 1: of a thing, which I am so excited about.
Speaker 2: And because.
Speaker 1: There's these kinds of places all over the world. Now,
Speaker 1: sometimes I encounter people where they'll say, wait, but why
Speaker 1: won't you come to this TD tiny town. Okay, maybe
Speaker 1: maybe I'm gonna be a half hour drive away, but
Speaker 1: some of these people, I just want to be, like, what,
Speaker 1: you want me to do a private show for you
Speaker 1: in your backyard? Would that make you happy? I'm sorry
Speaker 1: I can't do that, but I'm definitely gonna be doing
Speaker 1: a lot. So just check out my Instagram and you
Speaker 1: can find all that there. I don't know, there's a
Speaker 1: few that are booked already. I know I'm doing Boston,
Speaker 1: so finally Boston. It's just going to be stand up,
Speaker 1: nothing spooky, but we might make it a little spooky.
Speaker 1: You never know anyway. So yeah, Instagram, my linktreelinktree dot com,
Speaker 1: slash Rosernandez have all that info. Hey let me read
Speaker 1: you a story. Okay, this one's kind of long, but
Speaker 1: it's it's cute.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: This one comes from Rachel. Rachel says it should have
Speaker 1: been my best birthday ever. My gal Pale had booked
Speaker 1: us a ghost tour to Atchison, Kansas. I was so
Speaker 1: excited to go. I only asked for three things. One,
Speaker 1: I had to be back around six pm to feed
Speaker 1: my dog b I was recovering from an Achilles' injury,
Speaker 1: so no long walks, and lastly, nothing that required being
Speaker 1: outside for too long. It was the hottest day of
Speaker 1: the year, and as a zeftig menopausal woman, I am
Speaker 1: not a fan of heat. The tour was called the
Speaker 1: Ghost Taxi and it included all the usual Atchison haunts.
Speaker 1: I'm picturing Buster Poindexter and scrooged, Oh yeah, the taxi, Yeah,
Speaker 1: but a Halloween version. Instead, we met the Ghost Taxi
Speaker 1: and a home depot parking lot. It turned out to
Speaker 1: be an ancient mini van with a few rubber skeletons
Speaker 1: dangling from the windows. I asked the owner how long
Speaker 1: the tour was. He said four hours at the most. Okay, great,
Speaker 1: so we're on our way. Okay, I do need to
Speaker 1: cut some of this down, so basically in the story,
Speaker 1: they check out a famous haunted place called the Sally House.
Speaker 1: Very cool, and then I guess the main enchilada is
Speaker 1: something that the tour guy called the Demon House. Okay,
Speaker 1: so back to the story. Finally we got to the
Speaker 1: Demon House after six hours.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 1: It was a ramshackle ranch with a few gravestones stuck
Speaker 1: in the yard. A lightning storm had rolled in, and
Speaker 1: our guide was excited. He said that activity is higher
Speaker 1: when there are electrical storms. We entered the living room
Speaker 1: that demon our guide gasps, he's right on the couch.
Speaker 1: I'm so tired and irritated. I just want to go home.
Speaker 1: And then we went into the kitchen and I was
Speaker 1: startled by the strangest sensation. It felt like someone had
Speaker 1: goosed me or lifted up my skirt. I was wearing pants.
Speaker 1: I pretended that I had tripped and said nothing. I
Speaker 1: hated that to our guide so much. I didn't want
Speaker 1: there to be any truth to his Demon House. The
Speaker 1: next stop was the bathroom. The moment I crossed the threshold,
Speaker 1: I was just overwhelmed with sadness. I did not want
Speaker 1: to cry. I did not want to cry. I couldn't
Speaker 1: help it. I burst into tears. The moment I stepped
Speaker 1: back into the hallway, my sadness stopped. The tour guide said, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: the demon always finds someone.
Speaker 2: To pick on. Great.
Speaker 1: The last part of the tour was the basement, which
Speaker 1: was supposedly an old burial ground. We had flashlights, so
Speaker 1: we started looking around. The guide was shining his flashlight
Speaker 1: into a corner of the basement. Mine was off. All
Speaker 1: of a sudden, a black figure came from the corner
Speaker 1: and rushed at me. We're talking arms and legs, running
Speaker 1: straight at me. I dropped my flashlight, screamed, and grabbed
Speaker 1: my friend. I was shaking and crying uncontrollably. I kept
Speaker 1: asking everyone if they had seen it, but no one
Speaker 1: else had. I was so freaked out. On the van
Speaker 1: ride home, I just pretended to sleep. I have actually
Speaker 1: been kind of worried ever since, but too embarrassed to
Speaker 1: tell anyone. This happened at the end of twenty twenty
Speaker 1: three and twenty twenty four was the worst year of
Speaker 1: my life. Did I bring that mojo home with me? Geez,
Speaker 1: like I need more things to stress me out. Oh,
Speaker 1: and the whole tour took nine hours. I assure you.
Speaker 1: I wrote a scathing Yelp review, Rachael. Yeah, I think
Speaker 1: if you get a demon, I mean, it does kind
Speaker 1: of seem like, you know, to some people that's like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is like the best ghost tour ever.
Speaker 1: But not if it's going to like come home with
Speaker 1: you and mess up your life, that is absolutely worth
Speaker 1: a bad Yelp review. I hope you are okay. And
Speaker 1: of course there are a ton of different ways, I
Speaker 1: would say, based on your own beliefs of how to
Speaker 1: cleanse yourself of something of that sort or remove the
Speaker 1: attachment if you really do believe that. We've had several
Speaker 1: episodes of this show over the years, I would say,
Speaker 1: go listen to when our H Stavis has been on
Speaker 1: the show. She's got great things to say about that
Speaker 1: great book, Sister of Darkness. Shout out to Rachel r
Speaker 1: H Stavis lover. Okay, let's get to the funny funny.
Speaker 1: It's time for Zachariah Porter add with the show. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I am gagged, I am gooped, I am all adjectives
Speaker 1: for gay Joy. Zaaraab Hoorter is here.
Speaker 2: Hello, Oh my god, it is gay Joy. All day.
Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to this all day. I was
Speaker 2: on a flight giggling from and y See two Charlotte,
Speaker 2: North Carolina, wearing recording from this fabulous hotel room today.
Speaker 1: I love it.
Speaker 2: I'm so excited. How are you today?
Speaker 1: I am thrilled. I'm a big fan of your videos
Speaker 1: and I find you hilarious and I want to talk
Speaker 1: to you.
Speaker 2: Oh like, I feel like I know so much about
Speaker 2: you now after binge watching some of these episodes. It's
Speaker 2: just I feel like we're soul sisters, separated at birth.
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, yes, do you believe in ghosts? What's what's
Speaker 1: what's your story with the ghosts?
Speaker 2: So? I grew up really religious, what kind, what kind,
Speaker 2: what flavor a Christian? And it was specifically Nazarene. So
Speaker 2: I don't know about this one. Yeah, it's not we're
Speaker 2: not going full Baptist core. I wouldn't say it is
Speaker 2: as intense as that. But I always have a healthy,
Speaker 2: a healthy fear of what I was. What I grew
Speaker 2: up thinking was like the dark, the darkness of it all.
Speaker 2: So I was really like, I don't I've always been
Speaker 2: like nervous around ghosts, but I've always had people around me,
Speaker 2: very close to me, have a lot of paranormal encounters,
Speaker 2: especially with people contacting from beyond, and I've always been
Speaker 2: jealous because I want that, but also very nervous because
Speaker 2: I'm scared that the veil between this earth and the
Speaker 2: beyond is a lot thinner than we think.
Speaker 1: Ooh, she's thin, honey. So when you were raised, were
Speaker 1: you raised to believe that that's that the idea of
Speaker 1: a ghost is like dark sided.
Speaker 2: I don't think it's I thought ghosts were dark sided.
Speaker 2: I think uh, I think it was like if you're
Speaker 2: contacting it, you're not aware of what could come back,
Speaker 2: like if you open that door. I think a lot
Speaker 2: of things could be negative. And I grew up in Massachusetts,
Speaker 2: so everyone I know that lives in like an old
Speaker 2: home or of some sorts. Like there's a lot of
Speaker 2: spooks going on over there. So it's always been around me,
Speaker 2: you know. I grew up going to Salem every single
Speaker 2: like fall. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm sure you're
Speaker 2: aware of like Lizzie Borden. Like people come from all
Speaker 2: around to like the town where I grew up, and
Speaker 2: right over there to go visit Lizzie Borden. So there's
Speaker 2: a lot of like spooky, not always ghosts, but like
Speaker 2: I don't know the true crime related stuff happening around.
Speaker 1: But have you been to Lizzie Borden's.
Speaker 2: I've driven past it on a hundred times. I've never
Speaker 2: stayed over. Have you stayed there? You can stay there.
Speaker 1: I know. It's like a big ghost hunting situation. People
Speaker 1: go because she's allegedly a ghost and her family are ghosts,
Speaker 1: and she's also a lesbian. Did you know that? That's
Speaker 1: what they say allegedly.
Speaker 2: I would hope. So I'm claiming that for her on
Speaker 2: her behalf because it just the plot thickens. I listen,
Speaker 2: You're gonna come to Harvard, Massachusetts, two towns from when
Speaker 2: I grew up, and I will stay over with you,
Speaker 2: and I will be. You'll have to guard the door
Speaker 2: for me. I will be crying. I'll be. I've never
Speaker 2: even touched a Wiji board. I've been like adverse to
Speaker 2: it my entire life. Like my friend's growing up, they
Speaker 2: would go to the basement and play with it, and
Speaker 2: I would go upstairs. I was like, I'm not fucking
Speaker 2: with this. I'll be. I can't. I'm too scared.
Speaker 1: Because you never know who's gonna come through you never know,
Speaker 1: you know, the veil is thin.
Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because my boyfriend is so obsessed with
Speaker 2: the paranormal, which is like a kind of contention for us.
Speaker 2: He has a doll in our apartment and I know,
Speaker 2: you know, and it is so so scary and it
Speaker 2: was and it's like has like an energy in it,
Speaker 2: and I always respectfully look at it and say like,
Speaker 2: do not look at me crazy, do do? You can
Speaker 2: stay here as long as you're behind a closed door.
Speaker 2: Our cat loves it. Our cat will cuddle it. When
Speaker 2: Jonathan brings it downstairs, he's like, cam here, Buffy, our Katie,
Speaker 2: and Buffy like cuddles with this creepy clown wooden carved doll.
Speaker 2: It's horrifying.
Speaker 1: Where did it come from?
Speaker 2: His ex's mom got it from like a convention or
Speaker 2: like an expo, like some sort of like like oddities expo,
Speaker 2: and she was like, oh, Jonathan would love this. So
Speaker 2: not only is it a memory of ghosts, it's also
Speaker 2: a memory of a past relationship. This thing since I'm
Speaker 2: since I'm literally three hundred miles away from it, fuck
Speaker 2: that doll over it and went out of the house.
Speaker 2: But it's like you know, I'm always scared if you
Speaker 2: get rid of something like that, is it going to
Speaker 2: come back and bite us?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, we covered there was a story that
Speaker 1: was hot I would say twenty nineteen or eighteen where
Speaker 1: this uh, this family purchased a Elsa doll from Frozen
Speaker 1: and they believed it was haunted and they got rid
Speaker 1: of it, and she kept coming back and.
Speaker 2: Like wait, like like back in the porch, where was she?
Speaker 2: She came back from the living room.
Speaker 1: You know what. I think that it's been so long
Speaker 1: since we talked about it. We could we could even
Speaker 1: just cover it right now. Met look right now.
Speaker 2: I also love the idea of like a modern haunted doll,
Speaker 2: like what else came out in twenty thirteen. She's like, listen,
Speaker 2: new age knew me. Absolute spirits are connected.
Speaker 1: So this is from Houston's local NBC affiliate website. It's
Speaker 1: called click to Houston dot com and the article says
Speaker 1: they can't quote let it go haunted else a doll
Speaker 1: returns to Houston family after being thrown out multiple times.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Oh this is scary.
Speaker 2: Kids are creative. They'll get into some haunted stuff. So
Speaker 2: maybe that little kid was doing something on the side
Speaker 2: looking up some spells and maybe that all kind of
Speaker 2: conjugated together, you know, I.
Speaker 1: Don't know, I just could be it, says Christmas of
Speaker 1: twenty thirteen, a Houston area girl was gifted in Elsa doll,
Speaker 1: and all was well until it wasn't. The doll recited
Speaker 1: phrases from the movie Frozen and sang let it go
Speaker 1: okay that was supposed to happen, and then the mother says,
Speaker 1: for two years it did that in English. In twenty fifteen,
Speaker 1: it started alternating between Spanish and English. There wasn't a
Speaker 1: button that changed these. It was just random. The family
Speaker 1: owned the doll for more than six years and never
Speaker 1: changed its batteries. The mother says the doll would randomly
Speaker 1: begin to speak and sing, even with the switch turned off.
Speaker 1: In twenty nineteen, the family decided to get rid of
Speaker 1: the doll. However, Elsa wasn't going to let this family go.
Speaker 1: I love when someone's having fun right in these, you know.
Speaker 1: Despite throwing it out in the trash, the family found
Speaker 1: the doll inside of a bench on their living room.
Speaker 1: Three weeks later. The kids insisted that they didn't put
Speaker 1: it there, and I believe this is the mom speaking
Speaker 1: because they wouldn't have dug through the garbage outside. Elsa
Speaker 1: completely stopped operating in English and began only speaking and
Speaker 1: singing and Spanish. Once again. The family attempted to throw
Speaker 1: out the Elsa Dol. The husband the dad double bagged
Speaker 1: the doll and placed it at the bottom of the
Speaker 1: garbage can to be taken for trash day. The family traveled,
Speaker 1: they forgot about it. When they were turned home, the
Speaker 1: family found their old friend outside of their house.
Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, not the bilingual
Speaker 2: or Elsa Dol coming back for round two. I love her,
Speaker 2: gonna kill him? Oh my god.
Speaker 1: Wow, there's even more to this story, but I can't.
Speaker 1: Good for her, good for her Latina icon. There is
Speaker 1: a little thing on this article. It says editor's note
Speaker 1: kp RC two, which is the Houston NBC. They checked
Speaker 1: in with the family in twenty twenty October and the
Speaker 1: Elsa has not returned, but they're still looking out for her.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, how do you move on from something like that?
Speaker 2: You know, like she's still out there in a landfill,
Speaker 2: singing Spanish and she's plotting her avenge. The third installment.
Speaker 1: I love for her. I love her. She's like, you
Speaker 1: know what, I'm bored. I'm gonna get some DUELINGO. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna be immersive, and I'm only going to speak Spanish.
Speaker 1: And then the family's like, okay, we're done with you.
Speaker 1: Our kids don't like Frozen anymore. And then she's like, no,
Speaker 1: I want to go back to when you said your
Speaker 1: family or people close to you they have these experiences.
Speaker 1: What's that all about?
Speaker 2: Well, you know what's so funny. I think my my
Speaker 2: mom is a chatty Cathy. She's always gavin and I
Speaker 2: think she's met really interesting people. So when she was
Speaker 2: pregnant with my brother, she was like walking through a
Speaker 2: mall and this woman came up to her and she's like,
Speaker 2: I've seen you around, Like my mom used to work
Speaker 2: in malls, she used to have a store. And she
Speaker 2: touched my mom's stomach, who was pregnant my brother, and
Speaker 2: he was like, he's two years old than me. So
Speaker 2: she's like seven months pregnant, and she goes, I know
Speaker 2: you're having a son and he is going to be
Speaker 2: so famous and loved by like millions. And she told
Speaker 2: me this story my entire life, and like I resented
Speaker 2: it because I was like, why is it Jackson, Why
Speaker 2: is it against me a brother and never me? And
Speaker 2: then when we were younger, my brother saved like an
Speaker 2: old lady in the neighborhood and got like massive media
Speaker 2: coverage because she would have died and my brother found
Speaker 2: her on his bike or whatever. And I was like,
Speaker 2: the prophecy continues, this is his like assent to fame.
Speaker 2: And I was like, I can't believe this. And now
Speaker 2: his Instagram's private, so I think he's really off the grid.
Speaker 2: And I wonder, and I'm being really vulnerable here, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'm like,
Speaker 2: was this a little bit of a misreading? And was
Speaker 2: this really supposed to be me? Because I'm out here
Speaker 2: entertaining the masses, or at least I'm attempting to. But
Speaker 2: I didn't get that direct call out from some sort
Speaker 2: of like psychic. Maybe I guess she was.
Speaker 1: That's the thing with like a psychic. Maybe they maybe
Speaker 1: just she interpreted it rong, But she wasn't completely wrong,
Speaker 1: like she just she got confused. But I would say
Speaker 1: that's a pretty good that's a pretty good psychic prediction.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I see it always seems like it's
Speaker 2: happening around me. My boyfriend and I have a podcast
Speaker 2: and we were doing an interview with the Long Island Median.
Speaker 1: I can't tell you how jealous I am with that.
Speaker 2: Well, I believe in it. I actually do believe, and
Speaker 2: a lot of people don't, and I think that's their
Speaker 2: own journey to walk in their own high heels. But
Speaker 2: for me, I like it, and I think it's a
Speaker 2: lot of comfort for people. See like when when the
Speaker 2: spirituality and the connection with the spirits beyond is positive,
Speaker 2: I'm all for it. But the minute it turns into
Speaker 2: a horror movie, I'm clocked out. I can't handle it.
Speaker 1: Tell me everything about Teresa.
Speaker 2: Okay, So she walks in.
Speaker 1: She on zoom. This was in person.
Speaker 2: This was in person. She's probably five foot two and
Speaker 2: she jumps in and these Ferragamo thigh high slouch brown
Speaker 2: leather boots with this like Versace yellow top, and her
Speaker 2: hair from her scalp hairline to the top of where
Speaker 2: it's blown out is probably seven inches.
Speaker 1: She's so unapologetic about that, and I love it. It's
Speaker 1: it's that hair gets bigger and bigger as the years.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's such a peanut, and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I've always been a fan beyond just what she does.
Speaker 2: I think like her personality as a whole. She could
Speaker 2: have carried like a nation on her back because she's
Speaker 2: just such a sweetie. I love her. I went into
Speaker 2: it and I was like, well, what if I get
Speaker 2: What if I get like some sort of message from beyond?
Speaker 2: And I was like praying it would be my Nana.
Speaker 2: I'm like, yeah, it's my favorite grandparent. Like I lost
Speaker 2: her when I was like eighteen, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I wish she could have seen how everything changed in
Speaker 2: my life. So I was like, okay, Nana, if you're
Speaker 2: out there like this is there's never been a better time.
Speaker 2: So we're like halfway through this interview that we're doing
Speaker 2: with like serious ExM with her, and I'm talking to
Speaker 2: her like just kind of shoot the shit about like
Speaker 2: normal stuff, and she's looking at me, but then she's
Speaker 2: looking past me at my boyfriend. Meanwhile, we were in
Speaker 2: custom like drag queen wigs. I ordered from a drag
Speaker 2: queen in La like that Mattra hairstyle. I'm gonn brunette.
Speaker 2: My boyfriend's in a redhead. So the three of us
Speaker 2: look like sisters, and I'm like looking, I'm looking at her,
Speaker 2: but she's like looking past me. And then she stops
Speaker 2: the interview and she goes, Jonathan, I have to speak
Speaker 2: with you. Someone's coming through, and on air, gives him
Speaker 2: a full reading from his grandmother who passed away when
Speaker 2: he was a little boy, and it was so spot on,
Speaker 2: like bone chilling, and it was funny because like Jonathan
Speaker 2: was not giving a reaction in a way because he
Speaker 2: was so overwhelmed that he like didn't know what to
Speaker 2: say and he couldn't process in the moment, she was
Speaker 2: like spitting like such serious facts, and he's like just
Speaker 2: like nodding in his eyes are welling and they're in
Speaker 2: between like like it's Teresa here, Jonathan here. And I'm
Speaker 2: like watching it back and forth, and all I can
Speaker 2: think of is like, Nana, how dare you embarrass me
Speaker 2: and not come forward? Are you judy? Seriously, bitch? I'm
Speaker 2: so pissed to her. I'm so pissed to her because
Speaker 2: they had this moment, which I'm so happy for Jonathan,
Speaker 2: but it's like once again, I'm side swept by spirit
Speaker 2: and I want that moment, so yeah.
Speaker 1: That would make me mad too. Yeah, I always talk
Speaker 1: about this, how my people are not interested in talking
Speaker 1: to me. They say goodbye and they are good. But
Speaker 1: it seems like done. This seems like there's some people
Speaker 1: where the loved ones just want to come back for
Speaker 1: a little bit more and mine are done. They fat enough.
Speaker 2: They spy, they're watching from the great beyond and they're
Speaker 2: like doing a lot. Ear you got it handled well.
Speaker 2: When Teresa did Jonathan's there was just a crazy part
Speaker 2: because you like think about it after like all these
Speaker 2: like little small things. But when the small ones was
Speaker 2: like kept referring to Jonathan as her like her like
Speaker 2: little flower, her little flower. And then after we left,
Speaker 2: we were thinking about all these things. And he has
Speaker 2: this memorial tattoo on his arm of a rose because
Speaker 2: her name was Rose and she had this picture of
Speaker 2: a rose upside down in our house that confused him
Speaker 2: as a little boy, and he got the tattoo of
Speaker 2: the flower, and he's like never talked about that ever
Speaker 2: on anything. So it was like rearly like specific in
Speaker 2: certain ways when we made the connections, but and it
Speaker 2: left him soak, And then he got to call his
Speaker 2: mom after his mom who that was her mom oh
Speaker 2: my god. And then they're crying in the phone together
Speaker 2: and then I'm it was just like very very healing.
Speaker 2: And then I had to check myself because I'm like,
Speaker 2: this isn't about you. But I was like, come on,
Speaker 2: it was cool. It was cool. She's cool. She's a babitch.
Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with her.
Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with her too, And this is just one
Speaker 1: of the many legit testimonials I have heard from her.
Speaker 1: Like I've had multiple people on the show that have
Speaker 1: been to her, and they're always like, she is the
Speaker 1: real deal, She's got the gift.
Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to make a video with her and
Speaker 2: I do this like Mom character, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I'd love to be like Mom running into Terista Caputo
Speaker 2: and you could say something about this like Gigi, and
Speaker 2: she wouldn't do it because she said she was like,
Speaker 2: I take what I do very seriously. And obviously she's
Speaker 2: like she's like, I love your videos, but she's like,
Speaker 2: I don't ever want to do a pretend scenario where
Speaker 2: I'm contacting someone from beyond, because I like really want
Speaker 2: this to always and I respect that so much. I
Speaker 2: was like, of course.
Speaker 1: I get that, because I've actually had people ask me
Speaker 1: to do comedy ghost hunting things, and I feel the
Speaker 1: exact same way, where I'm like, I don't want to
Speaker 1: do that because I don't want people to think that
Speaker 1: it's always a comedy sketch. I want them so that
Speaker 1: when I am doing it, when I am going go something,
Speaker 1: it's real. I don't want that to get confused. So
Speaker 1: I get that from her. She's cool. Well, now I'm thinking,
Speaker 1: so you said she's five foot two, she's six foot
Speaker 1: with the hair, though I'm to my shoulder with the hair,
Speaker 1: I swear to I think she's at baseline, maybe four
Speaker 1: to eight.
Speaker 2: Like because she was wearing top like I was obsessed
Speaker 2: with the outfit because like this louch brown leather like
Speaker 2: like printed fer Obama like boots. I was like, you
Speaker 2: better work like she's she's a looker. She's kind of
Speaker 2: like a drag queen herself.
Speaker 1: She's got such a look to her and the nails,
Speaker 1: all of that. I really appreciate. I appreciate anyone where
Speaker 1: you can very easily be them for Halloween, like there's
Speaker 1: no question who you are. She gives you enough distinct
Speaker 1: traits about her, and I think that's that's how you
Speaker 1: make an icon. I think she's iconic.
Speaker 2: You gotta have a look. You have a real strong look.
Speaker 2: The bangs are so you.
Speaker 1: I'm about ninety five percent bangs. That's about what I
Speaker 1: have to offer the world. As these bangs.
Speaker 2: I'm buying it. I'm buying it every single day.
Speaker 1: They've changed my life.
Speaker 2: I'll put it on debit if I have to.
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do about these things
Speaker 1: on my head. I love them. You know what. This
Speaker 1: has definitely become a doll kind of episode, a fashion episode.
Speaker 1: Maybe we should just look at a haunted doll.
Speaker 2: Oh, I love a look at a haunted doll.
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living. I apologize this
Speaker 1: one is not one of the more glamorous that we've
Speaker 1: ever had, but it is definitely creepy. So Jiha, could
Speaker 1: you please show us this doll? You got it? Ros?
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh my god?
Speaker 1: There she is?
Speaker 2: Was it microwaved? It's like features like elongated and also bloated.
Speaker 1: So what we're looking at is a baby doll in
Speaker 1: a moomoo. And it's one of the classic things I
Speaker 1: love that we sometimes see from these dolls, which is
Speaker 1: bronze are on the face, but you forgot the arms,
Speaker 1: so we can tell that it's there's a separation there.
Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody put a head on this
Speaker 1: doll's body that didn't originally belong to it. I am
Speaker 1: not sure. It's got some very scary dead eyes.
Speaker 2: I love when a baby has a torso that's eighty
Speaker 2: percent of its body. Like, that's just like a really
Speaker 2: good vibe for anyone.
Speaker 1: Honestly, especially because the way that the moomoo is it
Speaker 1: kind of makes it look like she's got little boobs
Speaker 1: and like long body. She also has like that cloth
Speaker 1: base of a body. Oh I hate that, and it
Speaker 1: ends up looking like a T shirt. It looks like
Speaker 1: she's like wearing a T shirt under a swimsuit at
Speaker 1: the pool. Kind of a thing.
Speaker 2: Uh huh.
Speaker 1: She's she's not cute. I'm sorry. She's definitely scary looking
Speaker 1: and kind of looks like a grown adult as well.
Speaker 2: She looks like if like she's had a couple drinks
Speaker 2: at the bar and someone walked in that she's excited
Speaker 2: to catch eyes with, So she's kind of just looking
Speaker 2: and waiting for that reaction like I see you, eh, bloodshot.
Speaker 1: Now I'm guessing that the bloodshot was added in as
Speaker 1: someone that's trying to make a couple extra bucks here.
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing with this doll. Now, if I
Speaker 1: told you that this doll is incredibly haunted and it
Speaker 1: looks like this, and you're somebody that is looking for
Speaker 1: that sort of a companion in your life, how much
Speaker 1: money would you spend on this doll?
Speaker 2: Oh? If I was a collector, uh huh.
Speaker 1: And then it's real hated, super haunted.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess well, the haunting has to be the
Speaker 2: number one sell on here because on a physical level,
Speaker 2: this doll is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in
Speaker 2: my entire life. I don't know what the market is.
Speaker 2: The market's got to be hot. I would go. I
Speaker 2: would start the bidding at maybe seventy dollars.
Speaker 1: That seems legit. This one is no bidding. It's a
Speaker 1: by it now situation. And it's three hundred and fifty dollars.
Speaker 2: Wow. So when they do this, do they give you
Speaker 2: a little detail about what kind of haunting are you
Speaker 2: gonna expect?
Speaker 1: Of course?
Speaker 2: Okay, good, All.
Speaker 1: Right, here's what it says. This doll is a negative energy,
Speaker 1: but we do not believe it to be demonic. We
Speaker 1: have worked with this energy on multiple occasions and have
Speaker 1: not had the same results that we do with demonic presences.
Speaker 1: We believe this doll to have an attachment that is
Speaker 1: a human female spirit that is angry and very depressed.
Speaker 1: We have had some poultergeist activity with this doll, but
Speaker 1: nothing that has caused arm or that has been damaged.
Speaker 1: The most recent memorable thing was a bag of potato
Speaker 1: chips that was slid across the counter and put into
Speaker 1: the sink. We heard the bag rustling from another room,
Speaker 1: so we know it wasn't done by accident or Unknowingly,
Speaker 1: our medium has confirmed our suspicions as well as she
Speaker 1: has said that she feels as if the spirit puts
Speaker 1: up a shield to keep her from connecting. Our medium
Speaker 1: also feels that it is a human spirit. This doll
Speaker 1: was found in the rubble of the house. That is
Speaker 1: in the pictures. You can see the ghost of the
Speaker 1: little girl circled in red. Okay, so as we can
Speaker 1: see here, there's also a photo of a pile of
Speaker 1: junk and there is a little doll circled I guess
Speaker 1: in the pile junk that's where they found it. So
Speaker 1: they found that ugly little girl, and they said, you're
Speaker 1: coming with us and we're gonna sell you on eBay.
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm so, I'm so hooked up on this
Speaker 2: house for a minute. Was this a hurricane? No, the
Speaker 2: trees are still stand in What happened to this goddamn house?
Speaker 2: It was her?
Speaker 1: It was her. She's a palter, guys. She didn't get
Speaker 1: her potato chips in time.
Speaker 2: What's the difference between a demonic spirit and then like
Speaker 2: an angry spirit? Like, what's the line there?
Speaker 1: Well, you know, many people will have different things to say,
Speaker 1: but my understanding is basically, a demonic spirit is like
Speaker 1: something that never was human. It's just like a negative
Speaker 1: dark energy that usually feeds on people's fear, and depending
Speaker 1: on how Christian you want to get with it, it's sort
Speaker 1: of that thing. But then there's just other spirits that
Speaker 1: are just bitches, And that's what they're saying about this one, like, oh,
Speaker 1: she's not a demon. This was a living woman that
Speaker 1: died found herself inside of here, and she is not
Speaker 1: happy about it, and she wants potato chips. You better
Speaker 1: give them to her or she will start throwing things.
Speaker 2: I've never been mad at a brady doll. You know,
Speaker 2: she's just kind of throwing it around.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect that.
Speaker 2: I do too.
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, put me back in my pile of rubble.
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask to be here.
Speaker 2: This increases her value. This is like what we want
Speaker 2: to see out of a doll. I don't want something
Speaker 2: that's too far gone. You know, if it's to dark
Speaker 2: and in a religious that's scaring me. But this is
Speaker 2: if you just want some sort of annoying bitch in
Speaker 2: your house. She just kind of causes a little stir
Speaker 2: once in a while. This might be worth the three point.
Speaker 1: Fifty, you get it.
Speaker 2: She could have been five if she didn't have that face.
Speaker 2: Poor girl.
Speaker 1: I know the face, because that's the thing you could
Speaker 1: have this, you know, the spirit. Oh, that'd be fun
Speaker 1: to have around. Why not? I get lonely sometimes I
Speaker 1: don't want to have to look at this doll, not
Speaker 1: in that dress. Not in that dress, And I am
Speaker 1: too afraid to take it off and first of all
Speaker 1: find out what's underneath there.
Speaker 2: But mi'll doom.
Speaker 1: I'm not putting her in anything else. She could use
Speaker 1: a wig, though, I'll give her. I will say that.
Speaker 2: Wait, that might be kind of fun, just to give
Speaker 2: her a different Hey, maybe that might lighten her up
Speaker 2: a bit.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what she needs.
Speaker 2: Give the girl some hair.
Speaker 1: Maybe she's like, bitch, you left my wig and that
Speaker 1: pile of trash and then you took me bald headed.
Speaker 2: Give her a bottle and a bob and she'll be
Speaker 2: just fine.
Speaker 1: Everybody has some Lais crispy potato chips. Oh okay, can
Speaker 1: I play you some ghost voices?
Speaker 2: Oh my, I've been watching this part on the show
Speaker 2: and I always pause and try to do it myself,
Speaker 2: and it's pretty tricky you and then you say it,
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, oh, that's what it was. Of
Speaker 2: course it was that. How did I miss it?
Speaker 1: Well? That's the thing. These people are out there looking
Speaker 1: for problems and excitements from the other side, and all
Speaker 1: of a sudden they discover in their recordings that there's
Speaker 1: some kind of thing. That's why I'm always like, I
Speaker 1: absolutely believe, Yes, that is some kind of thing. That's
Speaker 1: I can't say it's a ghost. I can't say it's
Speaker 1: a dead person going up to your camera talking, but
Speaker 1: it's something I find a little bit of humor in
Speaker 1: the thought of people being like, here's what it said.
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, with such with such like definition, we don't
Speaker 2: know what we even heard. Relax a little bit, awad it.
Speaker 1: We don't know. I'm not even ken you. I've watched
Speaker 1: hundreds and I've listened to so many of these over
Speaker 1: the years, and there's a lot of times where I'm like, babe,
Speaker 1: like that was that was like your leather jacket squeaking.
Speaker 1: That was not a ghost.
Speaker 2: That's a new balance squeaking.
Speaker 1: Okay, that is a new balance that that is a
Speaker 1: very specifically a fart that is not a ghost speaking.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my best. I'm gonna really try. I'm
Speaker 2: gonna lock in for sure, Okay, lock right in.
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay, So I've
Speaker 1: gone to YouTube. I have found these on a channel
Speaker 1: called Spooky Shivers.
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Grab a sweater, everybody.
Speaker 1: It's gonna get cold and shooker. And these are people
Speaker 1: that find these voices all on the East Coast. They're
Speaker 1: they're kind of gatekeeping where this one, this first one
Speaker 1: is from, because it just says it's a private location.
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. So I don't know
Speaker 1: if they broke in someplace west and they didn't want
Speaker 1: to out them.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just protecting someone's privacy. But private location somewhere
Speaker 1: in Rhode Island.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm from there. I'm from there. That's crazy. Oh
Speaker 2: my god, this is local to me. This is local lore.
Speaker 2: Everybody I'm taking you might know this ghost.
Speaker 1: It's near that she finally came through.
Speaker 2: Stop, I'm dying. That's exactly what's happening right now. Okay,
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's do it. I'm freaking out.
Speaker 1: Okay, let me play it again one more time.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of words, it is.
Speaker 1: It's a long one.
Speaker 2: I heard show me him at the end.
Speaker 1: Yes, something, show me him. Wait wait wait, what's first
Speaker 1: part though? Totally wait?
Speaker 2: Oh and that's like that's first of all, a full
Speaker 2: grown a full grown man. So I'm already scared of that. Yeah. Secondly,
Speaker 2: why does he have so much to say? Relax? You
Speaker 2: already did it all.
Speaker 1: He's like, it's my time to speak his testimony. Well,
Speaker 1: it was one of these options. Do they think it
Speaker 1: was a He's kind of a dick, isn't he. B
Speaker 1: I want to have a lick, come over here, f
Speaker 1: he's gonna shit a brick any minute? Or d you
Speaker 1: give me the dick, you nasty bitch.
Speaker 2: I'm hoping for four. Can we hear it again?
Speaker 1: Yeah?
Speaker 2: What do you think it is?
Speaker 1: Well, they believe it is c he's going to shit
Speaker 1: a brick any minute. Well yeah, okay, now that we
Speaker 1: know that, let's listen to it.
Speaker 2: I kind of hear it the any minute for sure.
Speaker 2: I'm definitely hearing the any minute he's gonna show. And
Speaker 2: that's like condextually, it makes complete sense. And did they
Speaker 2: shoud a brick when they heard that? Because get out
Speaker 2: of there, it's scaring you.
Speaker 1: Here's another one. This is from some residential location from
Speaker 1: also spooky Shivers. I don't know where exactly, what town
Speaker 1: or anyw place, but it's somewhere over there on the
Speaker 1: East coast. I'm guessing what is it saying? Okay, this
Speaker 1: one is definitely worse. I'm playing again.
Speaker 2: I heard a growl, I heard some sort.
Speaker 1: Of did they think it was a Thank God? I'm
Speaker 1: so over this, b Frank, Carol, no more people see
Speaker 1: thank you for being so nice to me? Or d
Speaker 1: drink up. It's time to get crazy. Okay, let me
Speaker 1: play it. Again.
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I'm not hearing it. I'm hearing
Speaker 2: but I want Frank Carroll. I want more about Frank
Speaker 2: and Carroll. That's what I felt.
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they think it is. They think it's
Speaker 1: b Frank Carol, no more people. Wait a second, Okay,
Speaker 1: Frank Carol, no more people. That's like kind of the
Speaker 1: Frank Carol no more people. I kind of hear it.
Speaker 2: I heard it there. I heard it there. I heard
Speaker 2: it there, and I was I just wanted it because
Speaker 2: I thought that was drama and tea. Who is Franking Carol?
Speaker 2: And honestly no more. In both of these scenarios, it
Speaker 2: looks like the ghosts are not into the hunters now.
Speaker 1: They're like, we've had enough of this, please leave us alone.
Speaker 1: It's just like that haunt a doll, leave her and
Speaker 1: the pile of rubble. Leave Frank and Carol alone, or
Speaker 1: whoever these ghosts are.
Speaker 2: You know what, Elsa didn't want to be left alone.
Speaker 2: That was a doll.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's yes, you're right, that's a good point.
Speaker 1: That is confusing because I guess some of these do
Speaker 1: want to be around living people. But that's what I
Speaker 1: think it is. I think it's when you're like looking
Speaker 1: for it. You know, if you're looking, if you're going
Speaker 1: a place recording a ghost, the ghost might be like, get.
Speaker 2: I ought to hear yeah, exactly exactly, or there's over it,
Speaker 2: or they're going to like haunt you even more or
Speaker 2: scare you because you're like you're testing them. I don't
Speaker 2: test fate like that with this kind of stuff. I
Speaker 2: respected I want to walk into a house so I
Speaker 2: feel like there's a little bit of a spook energy.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm here, you're here, we're here together. I'm you,
Speaker 2: We're you sleeping. I'll sleep in a different room. Just
Speaker 2: let me know. You can have your pick of bedrooms.
Speaker 1: Totally. We should all have our own Spacey, Well, let's
Speaker 1: do one last thing. I will, uh just kind of
Speaker 1: throw out a couple of paranormal things and see your
Speaker 1: thoughts on that.
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do a temp truck.
Speaker 1: Bigfoot my favorite to talk about Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: I don't love it. I don't love him. I feel
Speaker 2: like at this point you're being annoying, like just step
Speaker 2: out on business already, Like the fact that we can't
Speaker 2: get a good picture of him or her or them.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just am over bigfoot. I don't
Speaker 2: believe in it. And every time we see a footprint,
Speaker 2: it's just a little like, how is it that the
Speaker 2: photo is so grainy but the footprint is so perfect?
Speaker 2: Just you know what I mean? I don't love it.
Speaker 1: Toe to that's true. And also how can somebody have
Speaker 1: so many TV shows about them yet they've never been
Speaker 1: on the TV shows? I mean that's impressive.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And with deforestation going on, like there's only so
Speaker 2: many places you can hide at this point, you know
Speaker 2: where are you? We would have found you already.
Speaker 1: So you don't believe in it?
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't believe in it, but I love an
Speaker 2: urban legend. Like if you're gonna pour me a cocktail
Speaker 2: and sit around a campfire, I'll listen do it all day.
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shut it down.
Speaker 1: Did you grow up around any urban legends.
Speaker 2: There was this forest near me called the Freetown State
Speaker 2: Forest that had a lot of cult action and a
Speaker 2: lot of people would go there and go missing. So
Speaker 2: everyone said there was like a very dark energy in
Speaker 2: there and a lot of witchcraft. There was a lot
Speaker 2: of witchcraft I guess around me for sure, But I
Speaker 2: don't know if there was more so like ghosts or
Speaker 2: urban legends.
Speaker 1: What about Ed and Lorraine Warren? Are you familiar with them?
Speaker 2: Yeah? I've seen the Conjuring aren't they Rhode Island there?
Speaker 2: I think they were no Connecticut, but they had they
Speaker 2: went to a house in Rhode Island.
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Yes, that's what it is. Rhode Island is
Speaker 1: the Conjuring House.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, exactly. So I think it's just with
Speaker 2: its statistics, right, Like I'm sure that's why I feel
Speaker 2: like Europe has so many, so much lore going on
Speaker 2: over there, because it's just older, you know what I mean. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I don't know how much haunting is going on in
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Nevada. Is it just too new in those
Speaker 2: new developments? Like can we get fresh ghosts?
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that because, like to me,
Speaker 1: it's yes, the older you are, the more opportunities for
Speaker 1: people to die over the years. But Las Vegas, those casinos,
Speaker 1: from what I've heard, oh, they are haunted. You just
Speaker 1: wouldn't think because it's not like super spooky. But I've
Speaker 1: stumbled upon different I don't know, tiktoks or something of
Speaker 1: different people that work like as maintenance workers in Vegas hotels,
Speaker 1: and they're like, it's so scary to have that job
Speaker 1: because the ghosts.
Speaker 2: Oh and you know people probably die a lot in Vegas,
Speaker 2: especially in the hotels. Yeah, do you think we have
Speaker 2: any control if we have if we become a ghost?
Speaker 2: Do you think everyone's a ghost? Do you think everyone
Speaker 2: gets that opportunity or is it the select and chosen?
Speaker 1: I don't I think that people. This is my personal
Speaker 1: opinion based on what I hear. I think if you
Speaker 1: die peacefully accepting that you're gonna die, then you can
Speaker 1: kind of pick and choose if you want to, like
Speaker 1: come back on a podcast when you're when like your
Speaker 1: relatives are talking to you or whatever. Like, I think
Speaker 1: that you can come and go like that. Oh, but
Speaker 1: I think that if you aren't like at peace with dying,
Speaker 1: then you're, like you could you can end up stuck
Speaker 1: someplace as it goes. That's what I think.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that makes sense. I think if you're dying
Speaker 2: in Vegas in a hotel, maybe you're not at peace.
Speaker 2: Maybe that was not the way you chose to end
Speaker 2: at all. So hey, so Vegas is haunted. Where is
Speaker 2: the place that's not haunted. Let's think about that.
Speaker 1: Anywhere I go. I swear to God, you don't know
Speaker 1: how frustrating it is to like book a hotel room
Speaker 1: that's haunted and you're like, Okay, I'm ready, let's do it.
Speaker 1: I got the cameras out, and the ghosts are like, no,
Speaker 1: we actually just decided we're not in our ghost place anymore.
Speaker 1: We've left that era.
Speaker 2: No, they're too private all of a sudden. That's so ridiculous,
Speaker 2: And honestly, it's disrespectful to you because and they said
Speaker 2: they're gonna fuck with you like that. That's crazy. Listen,
Speaker 2: if you come to Massachusetts all Julazy boarding with you,
Speaker 2: we'll shoot it to Salem. We'll just tire our best,
Speaker 2: we'll put your ghost machines out the window everywhere we drive,
Speaker 2: and we'll just see what we catch left and right.
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm dying to go to Salem. Wait, let me
Speaker 1: ask you a couple more questions, though. What do you
Speaker 1: think about Hero?
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it, and to me, it's kind of
Speaker 2: like comforting. I like to watch it a lot on lives. Oh,
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I kind of think it's almost like
Speaker 2: ASMR in a way where it's like scratching a part
Speaker 2: of my brain. I had my cards read during after
Speaker 2: prom by a woman with a terrible haircut, and nothing
Speaker 2: was making sense. But I don't I think Taro can
Speaker 2: lean if it's like if it's probably the spectrum. Is
Speaker 2: it A good reader? Is it? I don't think I
Speaker 2: got the best reading, but I don't think it was.
Speaker 2: I don't blame Taro. I brain Tara. That was probably
Speaker 2: her name or something. But I like it. Though. I
Speaker 2: think it's pretty.
Speaker 1: It's like she it is, it really is, And I
Speaker 1: think some people are really they have a beautiful way
Speaker 1: of describing and interpreting what they mean. For sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like poetry almost it is kind of like, oh god, yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm it. I'm into Taro. I want to do that now.
Speaker 2: We're Can I find a tarot reader at the time
Speaker 2: a night in Charlotte, North Carolina?
Speaker 1: Oh, you can find one. You'll find one. I believe
Speaker 1: in you. What okay? Last one aliens you at both
Speaker 1: all of it.
Speaker 2: I believe in it. I think we're seeing it. I
Speaker 2: think we're seeing it really like, I think we're seeing
Speaker 2: it now. But also there's this whole conversation with like
Speaker 2: when they find they make contact. They're going to like
Speaker 2: ruin us or whatever, and at that point, I think
Speaker 2: we have enough going on. It's like I'm not Someone
Speaker 2: made this comment about it online. They were like, you've
Speaker 2: been raw dogging us too long, like you either here
Speaker 2: or not, Like we've lost interest, Like I'm not scared anymore. Seriously,
Speaker 2: there's no way we're the only people here so or
Speaker 2: the only beings here, however you want to phrase it.
Speaker 2: But I think aliens are real and we're just like
Speaker 2: waiting for the unveiled. But it's taking a little too long.
Speaker 2: Like the teaser, I'm teased out, like I need a cigarette.
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm bored.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very much like one of a pop stars,
Speaker 1: like I'm going to release a new album. I'm gonna
Speaker 1: release the new album and it's like six years later
Speaker 1: and it's like we don't we don't even want to
Speaker 1: hear it anymore.
Speaker 2: Just say Normani at this point, Normani was using an
Speaker 2: album for six years and we're like, come on, girl,
Speaker 2: just give it. And that's what the aliens have been
Speaker 2: doing to us. But I love alien shows because the
Speaker 2: people that comes, oh my.
Speaker 1: God, like real ones you're talking about like ones about aliens.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a documentary like to show like when people
Speaker 2: get interviewed, because when it always seems like the kind
Speaker 2: of person that was abducted is a little out to
Speaker 2: lunch a little bit, but that all kind of coincides
Speaker 2: with being abducted and having something happen on that shit,
Speaker 2: Like that's what they that's what happens. You don't come
Speaker 2: back normal.
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If that happened to you, try sounding normal,
Speaker 1: try sounding you know, coherent or whatever.
Speaker 2: Well, and then there's sometimes there's like multiple times like
Speaker 2: the same people saw the same thing. I'm like, not
Speaker 2: everyone can be crazy right now, like there's probably some
Speaker 2: truth to it when people can answer any of these
Speaker 2: kind of topics, right besides big vote for me, like
Speaker 2: with such absolute I think that's ridiculous, Like none of
Speaker 2: us know. Either the government's hiding it or these spiritual
Speaker 2: beings are just smarter than us to hide themselves. Like
Speaker 2: anything is possible. That's why I'm walking in every space
Speaker 2: with positivity because I don't want anything latching onto me.
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I can't.
Speaker 2: I can't be playing with Ouiji boards, Wiji boards. It's
Speaker 2: like it's just it's it's too much. I can't open
Speaker 2: the door.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, I'm so happy I opened the door. And
Speaker 1: how do you come in?
Speaker 2: You're you're kind of like my mediator in between the
Speaker 2: in the world. If I need advice, I'm gonna come
Speaker 2: to this show. I'm gonna come to you say help me,
Speaker 2: help me connect because I'm too scared to do it myself.
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't even know if
Speaker 1: I connect with ghosts. But my whole thing is, you
Speaker 1: just treat ghosts like they're humans.
Speaker 2: M hm, because they are. They were You're just.
Speaker 1: Like, bitch, where are you? Why aren't you talking to me?
Speaker 2: Oh? We should got like a text hotline with ghosts
Speaker 2: so we can do shorthand girl, where are you at? Oh?
Speaker 1: Exactly? Well that's what a Weedi born is.
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.
Speaker 1: They just do it different. They're more analogue. Okay, Well
Speaker 1: that's it. We've made it to the to the end.
Speaker 1: That was so quick and fun.
Speaker 2: That was a sweet little bite into the worlds of
Speaker 2: the paranormal. And maybe that was my journey and maybe
Speaker 2: that was why we were here all along. My little
Speaker 2: my little I was getting my little feet wet right now.
Speaker 1: That's what I like. Yeah, just a little wet foot.
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get all the way in there
Speaker 1: when it comes to the paranormal. You know, we just
Speaker 1: we'd like to talk about it, have a little kiki,
Speaker 1: a little laugh, and then we move on with our day.
Speaker 2: This was such a treat and I hope that one
Speaker 2: day I get to meet you in real life. I
Speaker 2: hope I see you in a couple of weeks and
Speaker 2: I'm in Los Angeles because I just think you are
Speaker 2: a national treasure and you're doing and you're doing the
Speaker 2: work for the paranormal and the community. You're just a success,
Speaker 2: and so it's such a talent. I just love you.
Speaker 2: I think you're amazing.
Speaker 1: Thank you you too. I'm such a fan. Tell people
Speaker 1: where they can see you because you're on tour. Where
Speaker 1: do they get the tickets? Where do they find out
Speaker 1: the dates?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be on tour all month long, and I'm
Speaker 2: gonna continue out throughout the year. So when this episode
Speaker 2: comes out, I'll be in Boston the next week, and
Speaker 2: I'll be in New Jersey fingers crossed for June, and
Speaker 2: then in the fall and I'll hop on tour again
Speaker 2: and do some more Midwest cities, so those will be announced,
Speaker 2: but you can follow me at Zachary Porter pretty much
Speaker 2: everywhere and see where I'm gonna be next. Unlike the show,
Speaker 2: I'm more of a character person. I'm gonna wig. But
Speaker 2: maybe I'll create a character that's a ghost hunter in
Speaker 2: some sort of fabulous long, silver, dreamy wig. That's kind
Speaker 2: of how I would want myself to be as a
Speaker 2: ghost hunter.
Speaker 1: Okay, easy, easy.
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta, I gotta, I gotta come in.
Speaker 2: I gotta come in small, my foot, my foot, just
Speaker 2: tap it into the water.
Speaker 1: Well, my lawyers will talk to you. Thank you so much.
Speaker 1: What's up behind you?
Speaker 2: Get out of here. I'm almost set with this.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Zachariah Porter. And he's touring.
Speaker 1: Go go see him live. He's touring. I'm touring. Hopefully
Speaker 1: we're not doing the same time the same night ever,
Speaker 1: because that would be what choices you'd have to make.
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case, but yeah, check out
Speaker 1: both of our dates. I love you all, both living
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,
Speaker 1: don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly
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Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.