WEBVTT - Zachariah Porter Thinks Bigfoot Is Being Annoying

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<v Speaker 1>What's that at bed? It's spooky and joky. I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>sure it's dead. He's coming this way.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait a minute, he.

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<v Speaker 1>Said, Nandaz Please, hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome

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<v Speaker 1>to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk

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<v Speaker 1>to people that I like about the paranormal.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my gord.

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<v Speaker 1>I was joined on this episode by Zachariah Porter, who

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<v Speaker 1>is someone that I became a huge fan of because

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<v Speaker 1>of his hilarious Instagram. I'm sure TikTok to video. I

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<v Speaker 1>follow him on instag I'm more of an Instagram person myself.

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<v Speaker 1>Very funny, very very funny person. Okay, and the Instagram,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, we're talking in the millions, honey followers, so

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<v Speaker 1>I ain't alone in that. We had a great time.

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<v Speaker 1>We even get a Teresa Capudo first hand story from

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<v Speaker 1>Zachariah Porter. Can't wait for you to listen. Hey, I

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<v Speaker 1>have one fun announcement about me and and my career.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, I record these far in advance, so I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know the exact dates of this and that at

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<v Speaker 1>this very very moment that I'm recording this, but I

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<v Speaker 1>am planning a stand up comedy tour and I'm really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to hit a ton of cities because I'm going

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<v Speaker 1>to be doing most of my shows. I mean, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say ninety nine percent of my shows at queer,

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<v Speaker 1>oh o venues. So we're talking gay bars, that sort

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<v Speaker 1>of a thing, which I am so excited about.

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<v Speaker 2>And because.

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<v Speaker 1>There's these kinds of places all over the world. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>sometimes I encounter people where they'll say, wait, but why

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<v Speaker 1>won't you come to this TD tiny town. Okay, maybe

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<v Speaker 1>maybe I'm gonna be a half hour drive away, but

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<v Speaker 1>some of these people, I just want to be, like, what,

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<v Speaker 1>you want me to do a private show for you

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<v Speaker 1>in your backyard? Would that make you happy? I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>I can't do that, but I'm definitely gonna be doing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot. So just check out my Instagram and you

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<v Speaker 1>can find all that there. I don't know, there's a

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<v Speaker 1>few that are booked already. I know I'm doing Boston,

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<v Speaker 1>so finally Boston. It's just going to be stand up,

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<v Speaker 1>nothing spooky, but we might make it a little spooky.

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<v Speaker 1>You never know anyway. So yeah, Instagram, my linktreelinktree dot com,

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<v Speaker 1>slash Rosernandez have all that info. Hey let me read

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<v Speaker 1>you a story. Okay, this one's kind of long, but

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's cute.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay.

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<v Speaker 1>This one comes from Rachel. Rachel says it should have

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<v Speaker 1>been my best birthday ever. My gal Pale had booked

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<v Speaker 1>us a ghost tour to Atchison, Kansas. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>excited to go. I only asked for three things. One,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to be back around six pm to feed

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<v Speaker 1>my dog b I was recovering from an Achilles' injury,

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<v Speaker 1>so no long walks, and lastly, nothing that required being

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<v Speaker 1>outside for too long. It was the hottest day of

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<v Speaker 1>the year, and as a zeftig menopausal woman, I am

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<v Speaker 1>not a fan of heat. The tour was called the

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<v Speaker 1>Ghost Taxi and it included all the usual Atchison haunts.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm picturing Buster Poindexter and scrooged, Oh yeah, the taxi, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but a Halloween version. Instead, we met the Ghost Taxi

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<v Speaker 1>and a home depot parking lot. It turned out to

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<v Speaker 1>be an ancient mini van with a few rubber skeletons

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<v Speaker 1>dangling from the windows. I asked the owner how long

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<v Speaker 1>the tour was. He said four hours at the most. Okay, great,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're on our way. Okay, I do need to

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<v Speaker 1>cut some of this down, so basically in the story,

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<v Speaker 1>they check out a famous haunted place called the Sally House.

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<v Speaker 1>Very cool, and then I guess the main enchilada is

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<v Speaker 1>something that the tour guy called the Demon House. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so back to the story. Finally we got to the

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<v Speaker 1>Demon House after six hours.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a ramshackle ranch with a few gravestones stuck

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<v Speaker 1>in the yard. A lightning storm had rolled in, and

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<v Speaker 1>our guide was excited. He said that activity is higher

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<v Speaker 1>when there are electrical storms. We entered the living room

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<v Speaker 1>that demon our guide gasps, he's right on the couch.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm so tired and irritated. I just want to go home.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we went into the kitchen and I was

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<v Speaker 1>startled by the strangest sensation. It felt like someone had

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<v Speaker 1>goosed me or lifted up my skirt. I was wearing pants.

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<v Speaker 1>I pretended that I had tripped and said nothing. I

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<v Speaker 1>hated that to our guide so much. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>there to be any truth to his Demon House. The

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<v Speaker 1>next stop was the bathroom. The moment I crossed the threshold,

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<v Speaker 1>I was just overwhelmed with sadness. I did not want

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<v Speaker 1>to cry. I did not want to cry. I couldn't

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<v Speaker 1>help it. I burst into tears. The moment I stepped

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<v Speaker 1>back into the hallway, my sadness stopped. The tour guide said, oh, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>the demon always finds someone.

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<v Speaker 2>To pick on. Great.

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<v Speaker 1>The last part of the tour was the basement, which

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<v Speaker 1>was supposedly an old burial ground. We had flashlights, so

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<v Speaker 1>we started looking around. The guide was shining his flashlight

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<v Speaker 1>into a corner of the basement. Mine was off. All

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, a black figure came from the corner

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<v Speaker 1>and rushed at me. We're talking arms and legs, running

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<v Speaker 1>straight at me. I dropped my flashlight, screamed, and grabbed

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. I was shaking and crying uncontrollably. I kept

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<v Speaker 1>asking everyone if they had seen it, but no one

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<v Speaker 1>else had. I was so freaked out. On the van

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<v Speaker 1>ride home, I just pretended to sleep. I have actually

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<v Speaker 1>been kind of worried ever since, but too embarrassed to

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<v Speaker 1>tell anyone. This happened at the end of twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three and twenty twenty four was the worst year of

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<v Speaker 1>my life. Did I bring that mojo home with me? Geez,

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<v Speaker 1>like I need more things to stress me out. Oh,

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<v Speaker 1>and the whole tour took nine hours. I assure you.

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<v Speaker 1>I wrote a scathing Yelp review, Rachael. Yeah, I think

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<v Speaker 1>if you get a demon, I mean, it does kind

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<v Speaker 1>of seem like, you know, to some people that's like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is like the best ghost tour ever.

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<v Speaker 1>But not if it's going to like come home with

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<v Speaker 1>you and mess up your life, that is absolutely worth

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<v Speaker 1>a bad Yelp review. I hope you are okay. And

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<v Speaker 1>of course there are a ton of different ways, I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, based on your own beliefs of how to

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<v Speaker 1>cleanse yourself of something of that sort or remove the

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<v Speaker 1>attachment if you really do believe that. We've had several

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<v Speaker 1>episodes of this show over the years, I would say,

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<v Speaker 1>go listen to when our H Stavis has been on

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<v Speaker 1>the show. She's got great things to say about that

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<v Speaker 1>great book, Sister of Darkness. Shout out to Rachel r

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<v Speaker 1>H Stavis lover. Okay, let's get to the funny funny.

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<v Speaker 1>It's time for Zachariah Porter add with the show. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I am gagged, I am gooped, I am all adjectives

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<v Speaker 1>for gay Joy. Zaaraab Hoorter is here.

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<v Speaker 2>Hello, Oh my god, it is gay Joy. All day.

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<v Speaker 2>I've been looking forward to this all day. I was

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<v Speaker 2>on a flight giggling from and y See two Charlotte,

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<v Speaker 2>North Carolina, wearing recording from this fabulous hotel room today.

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<v Speaker 1>I love it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm so excited. How are you today?

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<v Speaker 1>I am thrilled. I'm a big fan of your videos

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<v Speaker 1>and I find you hilarious and I want to talk

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<v Speaker 1>to you.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh like, I feel like I know so much about

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<v Speaker 2>you now after binge watching some of these episodes. It's

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<v Speaker 2>just I feel like we're soul sisters, separated at birth.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh yeah, yes, do you believe in ghosts? What's what's

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<v Speaker 1>what's your story with the ghosts?

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<v Speaker 2>So? I grew up really religious, what kind, what kind,

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<v Speaker 2>what flavor a Christian? And it was specifically Nazarene. So

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know about this one. Yeah, it's not we're

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<v Speaker 2>not going full Baptist core. I wouldn't say it is

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<v Speaker 2>as intense as that. But I always have a healthy,

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<v Speaker 2>a healthy fear of what I was. What I grew

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<v Speaker 2>up thinking was like the dark, the darkness of it all.

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<v Speaker 2>So I was really like, I don't I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>like nervous around ghosts, but I've always had people around me,

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<v Speaker 2>very close to me, have a lot of paranormal encounters,

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<v Speaker 2>especially with people contacting from beyond, and I've always been

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<v Speaker 2>jealous because I want that, but also very nervous because

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<v Speaker 2>I'm scared that the veil between this earth and the

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<v Speaker 2>beyond is a lot thinner than we think.

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<v Speaker 1>Ooh, she's thin, honey. So when you were raised, were

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<v Speaker 1>you raised to believe that that's that the idea of

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<v Speaker 1>a ghost is like dark sided.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think it's I thought ghosts were dark sided.

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<v Speaker 2>I think uh, I think it was like if you're

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<v Speaker 2>contacting it, you're not aware of what could come back,

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<v Speaker 2>like if you open that door. I think a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of things could be negative. And I grew up in Massachusetts,

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<v Speaker 2>so everyone I know that lives in like an old

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<v Speaker 2>home or of some sorts. Like there's a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>spooks going on over there. So it's always been around me,

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<v Speaker 2>you know. I grew up going to Salem every single

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<v Speaker 2>like fall. So I'm like, I'm like, I'm sure you're

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<v Speaker 2>aware of like Lizzie Borden. Like people come from all

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<v Speaker 2>around to like the town where I grew up, and

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<v Speaker 2>right over there to go visit Lizzie Borden. So there's

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<v Speaker 2>a lot of like spooky, not always ghosts, but like

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know the true crime related stuff happening around.

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<v Speaker 1>But have you been to Lizzie Borden's.

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<v Speaker 2>I've driven past it on a hundred times. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>stayed over. Have you stayed there? You can stay there.

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<v Speaker 1>I know. It's like a big ghost hunting situation. People

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<v Speaker 1>go because she's allegedly a ghost and her family are ghosts,

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<v Speaker 1>and she's also a lesbian. Did you know that? That's

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<v Speaker 1>what they say allegedly.

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<v Speaker 2>I would hope. So I'm claiming that for her on

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<v Speaker 2>her behalf because it just the plot thickens. I listen,

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<v Speaker 2>You're gonna come to Harvard, Massachusetts, two towns from when

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<v Speaker 2>I grew up, and I will stay over with you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I will be. You'll have to guard the door

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<v Speaker 2>for me. I will be crying. I'll be. I've never

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<v Speaker 2>even touched a Wiji board. I've been like adverse to

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<v Speaker 2>it my entire life. Like my friend's growing up, they

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<v Speaker 2>would go to the basement and play with it, and

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<v Speaker 2>I would go upstairs. I was like, I'm not fucking

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<v Speaker 2>with this. I'll be. I can't. I'm too scared.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you never know who's gonna come through you never know,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, the veil is thin.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's funny because my boyfriend is so obsessed with

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<v Speaker 2>the paranormal, which is like a kind of contention for us.

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<v Speaker 2>He has a doll in our apartment and I know,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, and it is so so scary and it

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<v Speaker 2>was and it's like has like an energy in it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I always respectfully look at it and say like,

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<v Speaker 2>do not look at me crazy, do do? You can

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<v Speaker 2>stay here as long as you're behind a closed door.

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<v Speaker 2>Our cat loves it. Our cat will cuddle it. When

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<v Speaker 2>Jonathan brings it downstairs, he's like, cam here, Buffy, our Katie,

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<v Speaker 2>and Buffy like cuddles with this creepy clown wooden carved doll.

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<v Speaker 2>It's horrifying.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did it come from?

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<v Speaker 2>His ex's mom got it from like a convention or

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<v Speaker 2>like an expo, like some sort of like like oddities expo,

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<v Speaker 2>and she was like, oh, Jonathan would love this. So

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<v Speaker 2>not only is it a memory of ghosts, it's also

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<v Speaker 2>a memory of a past relationship. This thing since I'm

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<v Speaker 2>since I'm literally three hundred miles away from it, fuck

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<v Speaker 2>that doll over it and went out of the house.

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<v Speaker 2>But it's like you know, I'm always scared if you

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<v Speaker 2>get rid of something like that, is it going to

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<v Speaker 2>come back and bite us?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, we covered there was a story that

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<v Speaker 1>was hot I would say twenty nineteen or eighteen where

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<v Speaker 1>this uh, this family purchased a Elsa doll from Frozen

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<v Speaker 1>and they believed it was haunted and they got rid

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<v Speaker 1>of it, and she kept coming back and.

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<v Speaker 2>Like wait, like like back in the porch, where was she?

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<v Speaker 2>She came back from the living room.

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<v Speaker 1>You know what. I think that it's been so long

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<v Speaker 1>since we talked about it. We could we could even

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<v Speaker 1>just cover it right now. Met look right now.

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<v Speaker 2>I also love the idea of like a modern haunted doll,

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<v Speaker 2>like what else came out in twenty thirteen. She's like, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>new age knew me. Absolute spirits are connected.

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<v Speaker 1>So this is from Houston's local NBC affiliate website. It's

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<v Speaker 1>called click to Houston dot com and the article says

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<v Speaker 1>they can't quote let it go haunted else a doll

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<v Speaker 1>returns to Houston family after being thrown out multiple times.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, Oh this is scary.

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<v Speaker 2>Kids are creative. They'll get into some haunted stuff. So

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<v Speaker 2>maybe that little kid was doing something on the side

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<v Speaker 2>looking up some spells and maybe that all kind of

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<v Speaker 2>conjugated together, you know, I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't know, I just could be it, says Christmas of

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<v Speaker 1>twenty thirteen, a Houston area girl was gifted in Elsa doll,

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<v Speaker 1>and all was well until it wasn't. The doll recited

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<v Speaker 1>phrases from the movie Frozen and sang let it go

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<v Speaker 1>okay that was supposed to happen, and then the mother says,

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<v Speaker 1>for two years it did that in English. In twenty fifteen,

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<v Speaker 1>it started alternating between Spanish and English. There wasn't a

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<v Speaker 1>button that changed these. It was just random. The family

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<v Speaker 1>owned the doll for more than six years and never

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<v Speaker 1>changed its batteries. The mother says the doll would randomly

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<v Speaker 1>begin to speak and sing, even with the switch turned off.

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<v Speaker 1>In twenty nineteen, the family decided to get rid of

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<v Speaker 1>the doll. However, Elsa wasn't going to let this family go.

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<v Speaker 1>I love when someone's having fun right in these, you know.

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<v Speaker 1>Despite throwing it out in the trash, the family found

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<v Speaker 1>the doll inside of a bench on their living room.

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<v Speaker 1>Three weeks later. The kids insisted that they didn't put

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<v Speaker 1>it there, and I believe this is the mom speaking

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<v Speaker 1>because they wouldn't have dug through the garbage outside. Elsa

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<v Speaker 1>completely stopped operating in English and began only speaking and

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<v Speaker 1>singing and Spanish. Once again. The family attempted to throw

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<v Speaker 1>out the Elsa Dol. The husband the dad double bagged

0:16:20.320 --> 0:16:22.600
<v Speaker 1>the doll and placed it at the bottom of the

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<v Speaker 1>garbage can to be taken for trash day. The family traveled,

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<v Speaker 1>they forgot about it. When they were turned home, the

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<v Speaker 1>family found their old friend outside of their house.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, not the bilingual

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<v Speaker 2>or Elsa Dol coming back for round two. I love her,

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<v Speaker 2>gonna kill him? Oh my god.

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<v Speaker 1>Wow, there's even more to this story, but I can't.

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<v Speaker 1>Good for her, good for her Latina icon. There is

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<v Speaker 1>a little thing on this article. It says editor's note

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<v Speaker 1>kp RC two, which is the Houston NBC. They checked

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<v Speaker 1>in with the family in twenty twenty October and the

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<v Speaker 1>Elsa has not returned, but they're still looking out for her.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Like, how do you move on from something like that?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, like she's still out there in a landfill,

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<v Speaker 2>singing Spanish and she's plotting her avenge. The third installment.

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<v Speaker 1>I love for her. I love her. She's like, you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, I'm bored. I'm gonna get some DUELINGO. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be immersive, and I'm only going to speak Spanish.

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<v Speaker 1>And then the family's like, okay, we're done with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Our kids don't like Frozen anymore. And then she's like, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back to when you said your

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<v Speaker 1>family or people close to you they have these experiences.

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<v Speaker 1>What's that all about?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, you know what's so funny. I think my my

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<v Speaker 2>mom is a chatty Cathy. She's always gavin and I

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<v Speaker 2>think she's met really interesting people. So when she was

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<v Speaker 2>pregnant with my brother, she was like walking through a

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<v Speaker 2>mall and this woman came up to her and she's like,

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<v Speaker 2>I've seen you around, Like my mom used to work

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<v Speaker 2>in malls, she used to have a store. And she

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<v Speaker 2>touched my mom's stomach, who was pregnant my brother, and

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<v Speaker 2>he was like, he's two years old than me. So

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<v Speaker 2>she's like seven months pregnant, and she goes, I know

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<v Speaker 2>you're having a son and he is going to be

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<v Speaker 2>so famous and loved by like millions. And she told

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<v Speaker 2>me this story my entire life, and like I resented

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<v Speaker 2>it because I was like, why is it Jackson, Why

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<v Speaker 2>is it against me a brother and never me? And

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<v Speaker 2>then when we were younger, my brother saved like an

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<v Speaker 2>old lady in the neighborhood and got like massive media

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<v Speaker 2>coverage because she would have died and my brother found

0:18:47.320 --> 0:18:49.720
<v Speaker 2>her on his bike or whatever. And I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>the prophecy continues, this is his like assent to fame.

0:18:53.040 --> 0:18:55.640
<v Speaker 2>And I was like, I can't believe this. And now

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<v Speaker 2>his Instagram's private, so I think he's really off the grid.

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<v Speaker 2>And I wonder, and I'm being really vulnerable here, and

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'm like,

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<v Speaker 2>was this a little bit of a misreading? And was

0:19:06.119 --> 0:19:07.760
<v Speaker 2>this really supposed to be me? Because I'm out here

0:19:08.160 --> 0:19:10.960
<v Speaker 2>entertaining the masses, or at least I'm attempting to. But

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't get that direct call out from some sort

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<v Speaker 2>of like psychic. Maybe I guess she was.

0:19:17.119 --> 0:19:20.200
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing with like a psychic. Maybe they maybe

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<v Speaker 1>just she interpreted it rong, But she wasn't completely wrong,

0:19:23.160 --> 0:19:26.680
<v Speaker 1>like she just she got confused. But I would say

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<v Speaker 1>that's a pretty good that's a pretty good psychic prediction.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I think I see it always seems like it's

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<v Speaker 2>happening around me. My boyfriend and I have a podcast

0:19:39.520 --> 0:19:43.439
<v Speaker 2>and we were doing an interview with the Long Island Median.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't tell you how jealous I am with that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I believe in it. I actually do believe, and

0:19:52.040 --> 0:19:53.800
<v Speaker 2>a lot of people don't, and I think that's their

0:19:53.800 --> 0:19:55.840
<v Speaker 2>own journey to walk in their own high heels. But

0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:58.439
<v Speaker 2>for me, I like it, and I think it's a

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<v Speaker 2>lot of comfort for people. See like when when the

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<v Speaker 2>spirituality and the connection with the spirits beyond is positive,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm all for it. But the minute it turns into

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<v Speaker 2>a horror movie, I'm clocked out. I can't handle it.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me everything about Teresa.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, So she walks in.

0:20:14.200 --> 0:20:15.719
<v Speaker 1>She on zoom. This was in person.

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<v Speaker 2>This was in person. She's probably five foot two and

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<v Speaker 2>she jumps in and these Ferragamo thigh high slouch brown

0:20:25.000 --> 0:20:28.400
<v Speaker 2>leather boots with this like Versace yellow top, and her

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<v Speaker 2>hair from her scalp hairline to the top of where

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<v Speaker 2>it's blown out is probably seven inches.

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<v Speaker 1>She's so unapologetic about that, and I love it. It's

0:20:38.520 --> 0:20:41.680
<v Speaker 1>it's that hair gets bigger and bigger as the years.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, she's such a peanut, and I'm like,

0:20:46.040 --> 0:20:48.560
<v Speaker 2>I've always been a fan beyond just what she does.

0:20:48.600 --> 0:20:51.120
<v Speaker 2>I think like her personality as a whole. She could

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<v Speaker 2>have carried like a nation on her back because she's

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<v Speaker 2>just such a sweetie. I love her. I went into

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<v Speaker 2>it and I was like, well, what if I get

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<v Speaker 2>What if I get like some sort of message from beyond?

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<v Speaker 2>And I was like praying it would be my Nana.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm like, yeah, it's my favorite grandparent. Like I lost

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<v Speaker 2>her when I was like eighteen, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 2>I wish she could have seen how everything changed in

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<v Speaker 2>my life. So I was like, okay, Nana, if you're

0:21:12.560 --> 0:21:15.040
<v Speaker 2>out there like this is there's never been a better time.

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<v Speaker 2>So we're like halfway through this interview that we're doing

0:21:18.000 --> 0:21:21.040
<v Speaker 2>with like serious ExM with her, and I'm talking to

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<v Speaker 2>her like just kind of shoot the shit about like

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<v Speaker 2>normal stuff, and she's looking at me, but then she's

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<v Speaker 2>looking past me at my boyfriend. Meanwhile, we were in

0:21:28.080 --> 0:21:30.440
<v Speaker 2>custom like drag queen wigs. I ordered from a drag

0:21:30.520 --> 0:21:33.560
<v Speaker 2>queen in La like that Mattra hairstyle. I'm gonn brunette.

0:21:33.560 --> 0:21:35.000
<v Speaker 2>My boyfriend's in a redhead. So the three of us

0:21:35.000 --> 0:21:38.080
<v Speaker 2>look like sisters, and I'm like looking, I'm looking at her,

0:21:38.119 --> 0:21:40.400
<v Speaker 2>but she's like looking past me. And then she stops

0:21:40.480 --> 0:21:43.600
<v Speaker 2>the interview and she goes, Jonathan, I have to speak

0:21:43.640 --> 0:21:48.160
<v Speaker 2>with you. Someone's coming through, and on air, gives him

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<v Speaker 2>a full reading from his grandmother who passed away when

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<v Speaker 2>he was a little boy, and it was so spot on,

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<v Speaker 2>like bone chilling, and it was funny because like Jonathan

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<v Speaker 2>was not giving a reaction in a way because he

0:22:03.320 --> 0:22:06.000
<v Speaker 2>was so overwhelmed that he like didn't know what to

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<v Speaker 2>say and he couldn't process in the moment, she was

0:22:08.720 --> 0:22:11.240
<v Speaker 2>like spitting like such serious facts, and he's like just

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<v Speaker 2>like nodding in his eyes are welling and they're in

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<v Speaker 2>between like like it's Teresa here, Jonathan here. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>like watching it back and forth, and all I can

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<v Speaker 2>think of is like, Nana, how dare you embarrass me

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<v Speaker 2>and not come forward? Are you judy? Seriously, bitch? I'm

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<v Speaker 2>so pissed to her. I'm so pissed to her because

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<v Speaker 2>they had this moment, which I'm so happy for Jonathan,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's like once again, I'm side swept by spirit

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<v Speaker 2>and I want that moment, so yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>That would make me mad too. Yeah, I always talk

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<v Speaker 1>about this, how my people are not interested in talking

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<v Speaker 1>to me. They say goodbye and they are good. But

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<v Speaker 1>it seems like done. This seems like there's some people

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<v Speaker 1>where the loved ones just want to come back for

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<v Speaker 1>a little bit more and mine are done. They fat enough.

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<v Speaker 2>They spy, they're watching from the great beyond and they're

0:23:00.840 --> 0:23:04.800
<v Speaker 2>like doing a lot. Ear you got it handled well.

0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:07.520
<v Speaker 2>When Teresa did Jonathan's there was just a crazy part

0:23:07.680 --> 0:23:09.600
<v Speaker 2>because you like think about it after like all these

0:23:09.600 --> 0:23:11.440
<v Speaker 2>like little small things. But when the small ones was

0:23:11.520 --> 0:23:15.280
<v Speaker 2>like kept referring to Jonathan as her like her like

0:23:15.520 --> 0:23:19.280
<v Speaker 2>little flower, her little flower. And then after we left,

0:23:19.359 --> 0:23:21.920
<v Speaker 2>we were thinking about all these things. And he has

0:23:21.960 --> 0:23:24.760
<v Speaker 2>this memorial tattoo on his arm of a rose because

0:23:24.760 --> 0:23:27.000
<v Speaker 2>her name was Rose and she had this picture of

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<v Speaker 2>a rose upside down in our house that confused him

0:23:29.240 --> 0:23:31.760
<v Speaker 2>as a little boy, and he got the tattoo of

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<v Speaker 2>the flower, and he's like never talked about that ever

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<v Speaker 2>on anything. So it was like rearly like specific in

0:23:39.400 --> 0:23:41.879
<v Speaker 2>certain ways when we made the connections, but and it

0:23:41.960 --> 0:23:43.679
<v Speaker 2>left him soak, And then he got to call his

0:23:43.720 --> 0:23:46.560
<v Speaker 2>mom after his mom who that was her mom oh

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<v Speaker 2>my god. And then they're crying in the phone together

0:23:48.920 --> 0:23:52.480
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm it was just like very very healing.

0:23:53.040 --> 0:23:55.159
<v Speaker 2>And then I had to check myself because I'm like,

0:23:55.160 --> 0:23:58.040
<v Speaker 2>this isn't about you. But I was like, come on,

0:24:00.080 --> 0:24:03.560
<v Speaker 2>it was cool. It was cool. She's cool. She's a babitch.

0:24:03.560 --> 0:24:04.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm obsessed with her.

0:24:04.600 --> 0:24:07.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm obsessed with her too, And this is just one

0:24:07.400 --> 0:24:13.840
<v Speaker 1>of the many legit testimonials I have heard from her.

0:24:14.080 --> 0:24:17.080
<v Speaker 1>Like I've had multiple people on the show that have

0:24:17.160 --> 0:24:19.920
<v Speaker 1>been to her, and they're always like, she is the

0:24:19.960 --> 0:24:22.679
<v Speaker 1>real deal, She's got the gift.

0:24:22.920 --> 0:24:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Well, I wanted to make a video with her and

0:24:25.400 --> 0:24:27.320
<v Speaker 2>I do this like Mom character, and I was like, oh,

0:24:27.359 --> 0:24:29.680
<v Speaker 2>I'd love to be like Mom running into Terista Caputo

0:24:29.680 --> 0:24:32.160
<v Speaker 2>and you could say something about this like Gigi, and

0:24:32.200 --> 0:24:34.760
<v Speaker 2>she wouldn't do it because she said she was like,

0:24:34.800 --> 0:24:36.880
<v Speaker 2>I take what I do very seriously. And obviously she's

0:24:36.920 --> 0:24:38.720
<v Speaker 2>like she's like, I love your videos, but she's like,

0:24:38.760 --> 0:24:41.640
<v Speaker 2>I don't ever want to do a pretend scenario where

0:24:41.640 --> 0:24:44.359
<v Speaker 2>I'm contacting someone from beyond, because I like really want

0:24:44.359 --> 0:24:46.880
<v Speaker 2>this to always and I respect that so much. I

0:24:46.920 --> 0:24:48.639
<v Speaker 2>was like, of course.

0:24:48.880 --> 0:24:51.840
<v Speaker 1>I get that, because I've actually had people ask me

0:24:51.960 --> 0:24:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to do comedy ghost hunting things, and I feel the

0:24:55.440 --> 0:24:57.760
<v Speaker 1>exact same way, where I'm like, I don't want to

0:24:57.800 --> 0:24:59.280
<v Speaker 1>do that because I don't want people to think that

0:24:59.320 --> 0:25:01.840
<v Speaker 1>it's always a comedy sketch. I want them so that

0:25:01.920 --> 0:25:04.720
<v Speaker 1>when I am doing it, when I am going go something,

0:25:04.760 --> 0:25:07.280
<v Speaker 1>it's real. I don't want that to get confused. So

0:25:07.320 --> 0:25:11.520
<v Speaker 1>I get that from her. She's cool. Well, now I'm thinking,

0:25:11.560 --> 0:25:14.840
<v Speaker 1>so you said she's five foot two, she's six foot

0:25:14.880 --> 0:25:17.880
<v Speaker 1>with the hair, though I'm to my shoulder with the hair,

0:25:18.080 --> 0:25:20.640
<v Speaker 1>I swear to I think she's at baseline, maybe four

0:25:20.640 --> 0:25:20.960
<v Speaker 1>to eight.

0:25:21.359 --> 0:25:24.680
<v Speaker 2>Like because she was wearing top like I was obsessed

0:25:24.760 --> 0:25:27.280
<v Speaker 2>with the outfit because like this louch brown leather like

0:25:27.280 --> 0:25:30.320
<v Speaker 2>like printed fer Obama like boots. I was like, you

0:25:30.560 --> 0:25:34.199
<v Speaker 2>better work like she's she's a looker. She's kind of

0:25:34.240 --> 0:25:35.640
<v Speaker 2>like a drag queen herself.

0:25:35.880 --> 0:25:39.200
<v Speaker 1>She's got such a look to her and the nails,

0:25:39.520 --> 0:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>all of that. I really appreciate. I appreciate anyone where

0:25:43.440 --> 0:25:47.720
<v Speaker 1>you can very easily be them for Halloween, like there's

0:25:47.760 --> 0:25:51.800
<v Speaker 1>no question who you are. She gives you enough distinct

0:25:51.960 --> 0:25:54.359
<v Speaker 1>traits about her, and I think that's that's how you

0:25:54.359 --> 0:25:56.760
<v Speaker 1>make an icon. I think she's iconic.

0:25:57.240 --> 0:25:59.440
<v Speaker 2>You gotta have a look. You have a real strong look.

0:26:00.119 --> 0:26:01.080
<v Speaker 2>The bangs are so you.

0:26:02.320 --> 0:26:06.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm about ninety five percent bangs. That's about what I

0:26:06.400 --> 0:26:08.360
<v Speaker 1>have to offer the world. As these bangs.

0:26:09.480 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 2>I'm buying it. I'm buying it every single day.

0:26:11.880 --> 0:26:13.280
<v Speaker 1>They've changed my life.

0:26:13.400 --> 0:26:14.919
<v Speaker 2>I'll put it on debit if I have to.

0:26:16.000 --> 0:26:17.800
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what I would do about these things

0:26:17.840 --> 0:26:22.159
<v Speaker 1>on my head. I love them. You know what. This

0:26:22.200 --> 0:26:26.879
<v Speaker 1>has definitely become a doll kind of episode, a fashion episode.

0:26:27.560 --> 0:26:29.639
<v Speaker 1>Maybe we should just look at a haunted doll.

0:26:30.200 --> 0:26:31.640
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I love a look at a haunted doll.

0:26:32.119 --> 0:26:38.800
<v Speaker 1>It's time for the dolls are living. I apologize this

0:26:38.840 --> 0:26:41.440
<v Speaker 1>one is not one of the more glamorous that we've

0:26:41.480 --> 0:26:47.040
<v Speaker 1>ever had, but it is definitely creepy. So Jiha, could

0:26:47.040 --> 0:26:49.600
<v Speaker 1>you please show us this doll? You got it? Ros?

0:26:50.600 --> 0:26:53.560
<v Speaker 2>Oh? Oh my god?

0:26:53.800 --> 0:26:55.399
<v Speaker 1>There she is?

0:26:56.320 --> 0:27:02.320
<v Speaker 2>Was it microwaved? It's like features like elongated and also bloated.

0:27:04.840 --> 0:27:07.879
<v Speaker 1>So what we're looking at is a baby doll in

0:27:07.960 --> 0:27:11.359
<v Speaker 1>a moomoo. And it's one of the classic things I

0:27:11.440 --> 0:27:13.800
<v Speaker 1>love that we sometimes see from these dolls, which is

0:27:14.560 --> 0:27:17.160
<v Speaker 1>bronze are on the face, but you forgot the arms,

0:27:18.200 --> 0:27:21.960
<v Speaker 1>so we can tell that it's there's a separation there.

0:27:22.119 --> 0:27:25.199
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if somebody put a head on this

0:27:25.560 --> 0:27:28.960
<v Speaker 1>doll's body that didn't originally belong to it. I am

0:27:29.000 --> 0:27:32.840
<v Speaker 1>not sure. It's got some very scary dead eyes.

0:27:33.280 --> 0:27:36.200
<v Speaker 2>I love when a baby has a torso that's eighty

0:27:36.240 --> 0:27:38.600
<v Speaker 2>percent of its body. Like, that's just like a really

0:27:38.600 --> 0:27:40.240
<v Speaker 2>good vibe for anyone.

0:27:39.880 --> 0:27:45.719
<v Speaker 1>Honestly, especially because the way that the moomoo is it

0:27:45.880 --> 0:27:48.560
<v Speaker 1>kind of makes it look like she's got little boobs

0:27:48.760 --> 0:27:54.280
<v Speaker 1>and like long body. She also has like that cloth

0:27:55.000 --> 0:27:58.080
<v Speaker 1>base of a body. Oh I hate that, and it

0:27:58.200 --> 0:28:00.960
<v Speaker 1>ends up looking like a T shirt. It looks like

0:28:01.040 --> 0:28:04.240
<v Speaker 1>she's like wearing a T shirt under a swimsuit at

0:28:04.240 --> 0:28:05.480
<v Speaker 1>the pool. Kind of a thing.

0:28:05.800 --> 0:28:06.120
<v Speaker 2>Uh huh.

0:28:06.640 --> 0:28:11.439
<v Speaker 1>She's she's not cute. I'm sorry. She's definitely scary looking

0:28:12.280 --> 0:28:16.040
<v Speaker 1>and kind of looks like a grown adult as well.

0:28:16.720 --> 0:28:19.639
<v Speaker 2>She looks like if like she's had a couple drinks

0:28:19.640 --> 0:28:21.800
<v Speaker 2>at the bar and someone walked in that she's excited

0:28:21.840 --> 0:28:23.760
<v Speaker 2>to catch eyes with, So she's kind of just looking

0:28:23.800 --> 0:28:27.679
<v Speaker 2>and waiting for that reaction like I see you, eh, bloodshot.

0:28:27.920 --> 0:28:32.879
<v Speaker 1>Now I'm guessing that the bloodshot was added in as

0:28:32.960 --> 0:28:35.640
<v Speaker 1>someone that's trying to make a couple extra bucks here.

0:28:35.800 --> 0:28:38.240
<v Speaker 1>Because here's the thing with this doll. Now, if I

0:28:38.280 --> 0:28:40.320
<v Speaker 1>told you that this doll is incredibly haunted and it

0:28:40.360 --> 0:28:43.239
<v Speaker 1>looks like this, and you're somebody that is looking for

0:28:43.320 --> 0:28:47.160
<v Speaker 1>that sort of a companion in your life, how much

0:28:47.200 --> 0:28:48.840
<v Speaker 1>money would you spend on this doll?

0:28:49.240 --> 0:28:52.080
<v Speaker 2>Oh? If I was a collector, uh huh.

0:28:52.200 --> 0:28:54.760
<v Speaker 1>And then it's real hated, super haunted.

0:28:55.120 --> 0:28:57.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess well, the haunting has to be the

0:28:58.080 --> 0:29:01.440
<v Speaker 2>number one sell on here because on a physical level,

0:29:01.480 --> 0:29:03.480
<v Speaker 2>this doll is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in

0:29:03.520 --> 0:29:06.040
<v Speaker 2>my entire life. I don't know what the market is.

0:29:06.120 --> 0:29:08.560
<v Speaker 2>The market's got to be hot. I would go. I

0:29:08.560 --> 0:29:13.360
<v Speaker 2>would start the bidding at maybe seventy dollars.

0:29:12.600 --> 0:29:16.960
<v Speaker 1>That seems legit. This one is no bidding. It's a

0:29:17.040 --> 0:29:21.960
<v Speaker 1>by it now situation. And it's three hundred and fifty dollars.

0:29:22.840 --> 0:29:25.680
<v Speaker 2>Wow. So when they do this, do they give you

0:29:25.720 --> 0:29:27.800
<v Speaker 2>a little detail about what kind of haunting are you

0:29:27.800 --> 0:29:28.480
<v Speaker 2>gonna expect?

0:29:28.680 --> 0:29:29.560
<v Speaker 1>Of course?

0:29:29.920 --> 0:29:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Okay, good, All.

0:29:30.920 --> 0:29:35.080
<v Speaker 1>Right, here's what it says. This doll is a negative energy,

0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:38.600
<v Speaker 1>but we do not believe it to be demonic. We

0:29:38.680 --> 0:29:42.040
<v Speaker 1>have worked with this energy on multiple occasions and have

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.880
<v Speaker 1>not had the same results that we do with demonic presences.

0:29:47.280 --> 0:29:50.000
<v Speaker 1>We believe this doll to have an attachment that is

0:29:50.040 --> 0:29:54.560
<v Speaker 1>a human female spirit that is angry and very depressed.

0:29:55.160 --> 0:29:58.440
<v Speaker 1>We have had some poultergeist activity with this doll, but

0:29:58.720 --> 0:30:02.040
<v Speaker 1>nothing that has caused arm or that has been damaged.

0:30:02.320 --> 0:30:07.720
<v Speaker 1>The most recent memorable thing was a bag of potato

0:30:07.880 --> 0:30:11.880
<v Speaker 1>chips that was slid across the counter and put into

0:30:11.920 --> 0:30:16.760
<v Speaker 1>the sink. We heard the bag rustling from another room,

0:30:17.240 --> 0:30:21.000
<v Speaker 1>so we know it wasn't done by accident or Unknowingly,

0:30:21.640 --> 0:30:26.840
<v Speaker 1>our medium has confirmed our suspicions as well as she

0:30:26.920 --> 0:30:29.760
<v Speaker 1>has said that she feels as if the spirit puts

0:30:29.840 --> 0:30:34.520
<v Speaker 1>up a shield to keep her from connecting. Our medium

0:30:34.640 --> 0:30:38.520
<v Speaker 1>also feels that it is a human spirit. This doll

0:30:38.680 --> 0:30:42.400
<v Speaker 1>was found in the rubble of the house. That is

0:30:42.480 --> 0:30:46.080
<v Speaker 1>in the pictures. You can see the ghost of the

0:30:46.120 --> 0:30:49.920
<v Speaker 1>little girl circled in red. Okay, so as we can

0:30:50.000 --> 0:30:53.920
<v Speaker 1>see here, there's also a photo of a pile of

0:30:54.040 --> 0:30:59.000
<v Speaker 1>junk and there is a little doll circled I guess

0:30:59.400 --> 0:31:01.920
<v Speaker 1>in the pile junk that's where they found it. So

0:31:02.000 --> 0:31:05.440
<v Speaker 1>they found that ugly little girl, and they said, you're

0:31:05.440 --> 0:31:08.400
<v Speaker 1>coming with us and we're gonna sell you on eBay.

0:31:08.800 --> 0:31:11.160
<v Speaker 2>I can't. I'm so, I'm so hooked up on this

0:31:11.280 --> 0:31:13.960
<v Speaker 2>house for a minute. Was this a hurricane? No, the

0:31:14.040 --> 0:31:17.520
<v Speaker 2>trees are still stand in What happened to this goddamn house?

0:31:17.840 --> 0:31:18.360
<v Speaker 2>It was her?

0:31:19.360 --> 0:31:23.120
<v Speaker 1>It was her. She's a palter, guys. She didn't get

0:31:23.120 --> 0:31:24.800
<v Speaker 1>her potato chips in time.

0:31:25.280 --> 0:31:29.080
<v Speaker 2>What's the difference between a demonic spirit and then like

0:31:29.120 --> 0:31:31.760
<v Speaker 2>an angry spirit? Like, what's the line there?

0:31:33.000 --> 0:31:37.920
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, many people will have different things to say,

0:31:37.960 --> 0:31:42.000
<v Speaker 1>but my understanding is basically, a demonic spirit is like

0:31:43.240 --> 0:31:46.960
<v Speaker 1>something that never was human. It's just like a negative

0:31:47.160 --> 0:31:53.600
<v Speaker 1>dark energy that usually feeds on people's fear, and depending

0:31:53.640 --> 0:31:56.360
<v Speaker 1>on how Christian you want to get with it, it's sort

0:31:56.400 --> 0:31:59.720
<v Speaker 1>of that thing. But then there's just other spirits that

0:31:59.760 --> 0:32:04.320
<v Speaker 1>are just bitches, And that's what they're saying about this one, like, oh,

0:32:04.320 --> 0:32:06.680
<v Speaker 1>she's not a demon. This was a living woman that

0:32:06.880 --> 0:32:09.680
<v Speaker 1>died found herself inside of here, and she is not

0:32:09.880 --> 0:32:13.600
<v Speaker 1>happy about it, and she wants potato chips. You better

0:32:13.680 --> 0:32:16.600
<v Speaker 1>give them to her or she will start throwing things.

0:32:17.400 --> 0:32:19.920
<v Speaker 2>I've never been mad at a brady doll. You know,

0:32:20.560 --> 0:32:22.240
<v Speaker 2>she's just kind of throwing it around.

0:32:22.440 --> 0:32:24.040
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I respect that.

0:32:24.280 --> 0:32:24.840
<v Speaker 2>I do too.

0:32:25.280 --> 0:32:28.440
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, she's like, put me back in my pile of rubble.

0:32:28.880 --> 0:32:30.360
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even ask to be here.

0:32:30.600 --> 0:32:33.320
<v Speaker 2>This increases her value. This is like what we want

0:32:33.360 --> 0:32:35.360
<v Speaker 2>to see out of a doll. I don't want something

0:32:35.400 --> 0:32:37.840
<v Speaker 2>that's too far gone. You know, if it's to dark

0:32:37.880 --> 0:32:40.240
<v Speaker 2>and in a religious that's scaring me. But this is

0:32:40.520 --> 0:32:42.720
<v Speaker 2>if you just want some sort of annoying bitch in

0:32:42.760 --> 0:32:45.200
<v Speaker 2>your house. She just kind of causes a little stir

0:32:45.280 --> 0:32:48.240
<v Speaker 2>once in a while. This might be worth the three point.

0:32:48.040 --> 0:32:49.480
<v Speaker 1>Fifty, you get it.

0:32:49.680 --> 0:32:51.920
<v Speaker 2>She could have been five if she didn't have that face.

0:32:52.160 --> 0:32:52.760
<v Speaker 2>Poor girl.

0:32:53.040 --> 0:32:55.680
<v Speaker 1>I know the face, because that's the thing you could

0:32:55.720 --> 0:32:58.640
<v Speaker 1>have this, you know, the spirit. Oh, that'd be fun

0:32:58.720 --> 0:33:01.840
<v Speaker 1>to have around. Why not? I get lonely sometimes I

0:33:01.880 --> 0:33:06.320
<v Speaker 1>don't want to have to look at this doll, not

0:33:06.400 --> 0:33:09.280
<v Speaker 1>in that dress. Not in that dress, And I am

0:33:09.400 --> 0:33:12.240
<v Speaker 1>too afraid to take it off and first of all

0:33:12.280 --> 0:33:13.640
<v Speaker 1>find out what's underneath there.

0:33:13.760 --> 0:33:14.880
<v Speaker 2>But mi'll doom.

0:33:14.960 --> 0:33:17.480
<v Speaker 1>I'm not putting her in anything else. She could use

0:33:17.480 --> 0:33:19.640
<v Speaker 1>a wig, though, I'll give her. I will say that.

0:33:19.880 --> 0:33:22.320
<v Speaker 2>Wait, that might be kind of fun, just to give

0:33:22.320 --> 0:33:24.280
<v Speaker 2>her a different Hey, maybe that might lighten her up

0:33:24.320 --> 0:33:24.560
<v Speaker 2>a bit.

0:33:24.800 --> 0:33:26.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe that's what she needs.

0:33:26.600 --> 0:33:27.880
<v Speaker 2>Give the girl some hair.

0:33:28.200 --> 0:33:30.680
<v Speaker 1>Maybe she's like, bitch, you left my wig and that

0:33:30.760 --> 0:33:34.959
<v Speaker 1>pile of trash and then you took me bald headed.

0:33:36.040 --> 0:33:38.160
<v Speaker 2>Give her a bottle and a bob and she'll be

0:33:38.400 --> 0:33:38.960
<v Speaker 2>just fine.

0:33:39.040 --> 0:33:45.840
<v Speaker 1>Everybody has some Lais crispy potato chips. Oh okay, can

0:33:45.880 --> 0:33:47.440
<v Speaker 1>I play you some ghost voices?

0:33:47.760 --> 0:33:50.479
<v Speaker 2>Oh my, I've been watching this part on the show

0:33:51.080 --> 0:33:53.720
<v Speaker 2>and I always pause and try to do it myself,

0:33:54.200 --> 0:33:59.160
<v Speaker 2>and it's pretty tricky you and then you say it,

0:33:59.200 --> 0:34:00.800
<v Speaker 2>and then I'm like, oh, that's what it was. Of

0:34:00.840 --> 0:34:02.280
<v Speaker 2>course it was that. How did I miss it?

0:34:02.360 --> 0:34:05.520
<v Speaker 1>Well? That's the thing. These people are out there looking

0:34:06.160 --> 0:34:11.719
<v Speaker 1>for problems and excitements from the other side, and all

0:34:11.719 --> 0:34:14.839
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden they discover in their recordings that there's

0:34:14.840 --> 0:34:17.920
<v Speaker 1>some kind of thing. That's why I'm always like, I

0:34:17.960 --> 0:34:22.239
<v Speaker 1>absolutely believe, Yes, that is some kind of thing. That's

0:34:22.640 --> 0:34:25.120
<v Speaker 1>I can't say it's a ghost. I can't say it's

0:34:25.120 --> 0:34:28.239
<v Speaker 1>a dead person going up to your camera talking, but

0:34:28.800 --> 0:34:33.279
<v Speaker 1>it's something I find a little bit of humor in

0:34:33.320 --> 0:34:36.080
<v Speaker 1>the thought of people being like, here's what it said.

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:40.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly, with such with such like definition, we don't

0:34:40.400 --> 0:34:42.840
<v Speaker 2>know what we even heard. Relax a little bit, awad it.

0:34:42.880 --> 0:34:45.360
<v Speaker 1>We don't know. I'm not even ken you. I've watched

0:34:45.480 --> 0:34:48.359
<v Speaker 1>hundreds and I've listened to so many of these over

0:34:48.440 --> 0:34:52.520
<v Speaker 1>the years, and there's a lot of times where I'm like, babe,

0:34:52.680 --> 0:34:57.680
<v Speaker 1>like that was that was like your leather jacket squeaking.

0:34:58.000 --> 0:35:00.200
<v Speaker 1>That was not a ghost.

0:35:02.239 --> 0:35:03.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a new balance squeaking.

0:35:03.920 --> 0:35:07.359
<v Speaker 1>Okay, that is a new balance that that is a

0:35:07.520 --> 0:35:13.400
<v Speaker 1>very specifically a fart that is not a ghost speaking.

0:35:14.040 --> 0:35:16.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do my best. I'm gonna really try. I'm

0:35:16.400 --> 0:35:19.920
<v Speaker 2>gonna lock in for sure, Okay, lock right in.

0:35:21.080 --> 0:35:29.680
<v Speaker 1>It's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay, So I've

0:35:29.680 --> 0:35:32.720
<v Speaker 1>gone to YouTube. I have found these on a channel

0:35:32.840 --> 0:35:34.960
<v Speaker 1>called Spooky Shivers.

0:35:35.560 --> 0:35:38.799
<v Speaker 2>Oh I love that. Grab a sweater, everybody.

0:35:39.120 --> 0:35:43.160
<v Speaker 1>It's gonna get cold and shooker. And these are people

0:35:43.760 --> 0:35:47.839
<v Speaker 1>that find these voices all on the East Coast. They're

0:35:47.880 --> 0:35:50.640
<v Speaker 1>they're kind of gatekeeping where this one, this first one

0:35:50.680 --> 0:35:53.120
<v Speaker 1>is from, because it just says it's a private location.

0:35:53.360 --> 0:35:54.880
<v Speaker 1>That's all you need to know. So I don't know

0:35:54.880 --> 0:35:58.080
<v Speaker 1>if they broke in someplace west and they didn't want

0:35:58.080 --> 0:35:58.440
<v Speaker 1>to out them.

0:35:58.880 --> 0:35:59.279
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

0:35:59.360 --> 0:36:05.040
<v Speaker 1>Maybe they're just protecting someone's privacy. But private location somewhere

0:36:05.040 --> 0:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>in Rhode Island.

0:36:06.440 --> 0:36:09.600
<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm from there. I'm from there. That's crazy. Oh

0:36:09.640 --> 0:36:14.040
<v Speaker 2>my god, this is local to me. This is local lore.

0:36:14.120 --> 0:36:17.719
<v Speaker 2>Everybody I'm taking you might know this ghost.

0:36:17.880 --> 0:36:21.320
<v Speaker 1>It's near that she finally came through.

0:36:23.480 --> 0:36:26.160
<v Speaker 2>Stop, I'm dying. That's exactly what's happening right now. Okay,

0:36:26.200 --> 0:36:30.600
<v Speaker 2>let's do it. Let's do it. I'm freaking out.

0:36:36.120 --> 0:36:44.080
<v Speaker 1>Okay, let me play it again one more time.

0:36:49.840 --> 0:36:51.600
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of words, it is.

0:36:51.640 --> 0:36:52.479
<v Speaker 1>It's a long one.

0:36:53.120 --> 0:36:56.400
<v Speaker 2>I heard show me him at the end.

0:36:56.640 --> 0:37:00.400
<v Speaker 1>Yes, something, show me him. Wait wait wait, what's first

0:37:00.440 --> 0:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>part though? Totally wait?

0:37:08.040 --> 0:37:10.520
<v Speaker 2>Oh and that's like that's first of all, a full

0:37:10.520 --> 0:37:14.840
<v Speaker 2>grown a full grown man. So I'm already scared of that. Yeah. Secondly,

0:37:15.680 --> 0:37:17.960
<v Speaker 2>why does he have so much to say? Relax? You

0:37:18.000 --> 0:37:18.719
<v Speaker 2>already did it all.

0:37:20.400 --> 0:37:25.440
<v Speaker 1>He's like, it's my time to speak his testimony. Well,

0:37:26.040 --> 0:37:28.560
<v Speaker 1>it was one of these options. Do they think it

0:37:28.640 --> 0:37:34.160
<v Speaker 1>was a He's kind of a dick, isn't he. B

0:37:35.239 --> 0:37:40.239
<v Speaker 1>I want to have a lick, come over here, f

0:37:41.440 --> 0:37:46.879
<v Speaker 1>he's gonna shit a brick any minute? Or d you

0:37:46.920 --> 0:37:49.520
<v Speaker 1>give me the dick, you nasty bitch.

0:37:50.520 --> 0:37:52.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm hoping for four. Can we hear it again?

0:37:52.960 --> 0:37:58.320
<v Speaker 1>Yeah?

0:37:58.760 --> 0:37:59.719
<v Speaker 2>What do you think it is?

0:38:00.520 --> 0:38:04.640
<v Speaker 1>Well, they believe it is c he's going to shit

0:38:04.719 --> 0:38:09.239
<v Speaker 1>a brick any minute. Well yeah, okay, now that we

0:38:09.400 --> 0:38:14.520
<v Speaker 1>know that, let's listen to it.

0:38:16.480 --> 0:38:19.200
<v Speaker 2>I kind of hear it the any minute for sure.

0:38:19.239 --> 0:38:21.360
<v Speaker 2>I'm definitely hearing the any minute he's gonna show. And

0:38:21.440 --> 0:38:24.040
<v Speaker 2>that's like condextually, it makes complete sense. And did they

0:38:24.040 --> 0:38:25.839
<v Speaker 2>shoud a brick when they heard that? Because get out

0:38:25.840 --> 0:38:26.839
<v Speaker 2>of there, it's scaring you.

0:38:27.680 --> 0:38:32.000
<v Speaker 1>Here's another one. This is from some residential location from

0:38:32.080 --> 0:38:36.160
<v Speaker 1>also spooky Shivers. I don't know where exactly, what town

0:38:36.360 --> 0:38:38.480
<v Speaker 1>or anyw place, but it's somewhere over there on the

0:38:38.520 --> 0:38:45.719
<v Speaker 1>East coast. I'm guessing what is it saying? Okay, this

0:38:45.760 --> 0:38:49.240
<v Speaker 1>one is definitely worse. I'm playing again.

0:38:54.600 --> 0:38:56.680
<v Speaker 2>I heard a growl, I heard some sort.

0:38:56.520 --> 0:39:07.319
<v Speaker 1>Of did they think it was a Thank God? I'm

0:39:07.360 --> 0:39:14.839
<v Speaker 1>so over this, b Frank, Carol, no more people see

0:39:16.040 --> 0:39:19.960
<v Speaker 1>thank you for being so nice to me? Or d

0:39:20.920 --> 0:39:25.440
<v Speaker 1>drink up. It's time to get crazy. Okay, let me

0:39:25.480 --> 0:39:26.040
<v Speaker 1>play it. Again.

0:39:30.680 --> 0:39:33.000
<v Speaker 2>I gotta be honest, I'm not hearing it. I'm hearing

0:39:33.239 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 2>but I want Frank Carroll. I want more about Frank

0:39:35.840 --> 0:39:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and Carroll. That's what I felt.

0:39:37.719 --> 0:39:40.200
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's what they think it is. They think it's

0:39:40.280 --> 0:39:48.560
<v Speaker 1>b Frank Carol, no more people. Wait a second, Okay,

0:39:48.600 --> 0:39:51.640
<v Speaker 1>Frank Carol, no more people. That's like kind of the

0:39:52.280 --> 0:39:59.480
<v Speaker 1>Frank Carol no more people. I kind of hear it.

0:40:00.200 --> 0:40:02.640
<v Speaker 2>I heard it there. I heard it there. I heard

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.200
<v Speaker 2>it there, and I was I just wanted it because

0:40:04.200 --> 0:40:06.960
<v Speaker 2>I thought that was drama and tea. Who is Franking Carol?

0:40:07.080 --> 0:40:10.520
<v Speaker 2>And honestly no more. In both of these scenarios, it

0:40:10.560 --> 0:40:13.400
<v Speaker 2>looks like the ghosts are not into the hunters now.

0:40:13.520 --> 0:40:17.240
<v Speaker 1>They're like, we've had enough of this, please leave us alone.

0:40:17.239 --> 0:40:19.680
<v Speaker 1>It's just like that haunt a doll, leave her and

0:40:19.719 --> 0:40:23.719
<v Speaker 1>the pile of rubble. Leave Frank and Carol alone, or

0:40:23.760 --> 0:40:25.080
<v Speaker 1>whoever these ghosts are.

0:40:27.200 --> 0:40:28.960
<v Speaker 2>You know what, Elsa didn't want to be left alone.

0:40:29.680 --> 0:40:30.279
<v Speaker 2>That was a doll.

0:40:31.280 --> 0:40:34.200
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and that's yes, you're right, that's a good point.

0:40:34.200 --> 0:40:36.640
<v Speaker 1>That is confusing because I guess some of these do

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:41.960
<v Speaker 1>want to be around living people. But that's what I

0:40:41.960 --> 0:40:43.920
<v Speaker 1>think it is. I think it's when you're like looking

0:40:44.000 --> 0:40:46.280
<v Speaker 1>for it. You know, if you're looking, if you're going

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:50.440
<v Speaker 1>a place recording a ghost, the ghost might be like, get.

0:40:50.360 --> 0:40:54.440
<v Speaker 2>I ought to hear yeah, exactly exactly, or there's over it,

0:40:54.520 --> 0:40:56.400
<v Speaker 2>or they're going to like haunt you even more or

0:40:56.440 --> 0:40:58.960
<v Speaker 2>scare you because you're like you're testing them. I don't

0:40:59.040 --> 0:41:01.799
<v Speaker 2>test fate like that with this kind of stuff. I

0:41:01.880 --> 0:41:04.200
<v Speaker 2>respected I want to walk into a house so I

0:41:04.200 --> 0:41:06.040
<v Speaker 2>feel like there's a little bit of a spook energy.

0:41:06.320 --> 0:41:09.840
<v Speaker 2>I'm like, I'm here, you're here, we're here together. I'm you,

0:41:09.960 --> 0:41:11.880
<v Speaker 2>We're you sleeping. I'll sleep in a different room. Just

0:41:11.960 --> 0:41:14.480
<v Speaker 2>let me know. You can have your pick of bedrooms.

0:41:15.160 --> 0:41:19.160
<v Speaker 1>Totally. We should all have our own Spacey, Well, let's

0:41:19.200 --> 0:41:23.279
<v Speaker 1>do one last thing. I will, uh just kind of

0:41:23.320 --> 0:41:26.960
<v Speaker 1>throw out a couple of paranormal things and see your

0:41:27.000 --> 0:41:27.719
<v Speaker 1>thoughts on that.

0:41:28.320 --> 0:41:29.640
<v Speaker 2>Okay, we'll do a temp truck.

0:41:30.239 --> 0:41:34.000
<v Speaker 1>Bigfoot my favorite to talk about Bigfoot.

0:41:35.280 --> 0:41:37.399
<v Speaker 2>I don't love it. I don't love him. I feel

0:41:37.400 --> 0:41:40.720
<v Speaker 2>like at this point you're being annoying, like just step

0:41:40.760 --> 0:41:43.759
<v Speaker 2>out on business already, Like the fact that we can't

0:41:43.760 --> 0:41:46.040
<v Speaker 2>get a good picture of him or her or them.

0:41:46.080 --> 0:41:48.600
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I just am over bigfoot. I don't

0:41:48.640 --> 0:41:51.480
<v Speaker 2>believe in it. And every time we see a footprint,

0:41:51.640 --> 0:41:54.080
<v Speaker 2>it's just a little like, how is it that the

0:41:54.120 --> 0:41:56.760
<v Speaker 2>photo is so grainy but the footprint is so perfect?

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.399
<v Speaker 2>Just you know what I mean? I don't love it.

0:41:59.239 --> 0:42:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Toe to that's true. And also how can somebody have

0:42:04.920 --> 0:42:08.480
<v Speaker 1>so many TV shows about them yet they've never been

0:42:08.560 --> 0:42:11.200
<v Speaker 1>on the TV shows? I mean that's impressive.

0:42:11.719 --> 0:42:14.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And with deforestation going on, like there's only so

0:42:15.000 --> 0:42:16.920
<v Speaker 2>many places you can hide at this point, you know

0:42:16.960 --> 0:42:19.480
<v Speaker 2>where are you? We would have found you already.

0:42:20.040 --> 0:42:21.239
<v Speaker 1>So you don't believe in it?

0:42:21.320 --> 0:42:23.759
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I don't believe in it, but I love an

0:42:23.840 --> 0:42:26.000
<v Speaker 2>urban legend. Like if you're gonna pour me a cocktail

0:42:26.040 --> 0:42:28.600
<v Speaker 2>and sit around a campfire, I'll listen do it all day.

0:42:28.640 --> 0:42:29.640
<v Speaker 2>I'm not gonna shut it down.

0:42:29.960 --> 0:42:33.120
<v Speaker 1>Did you grow up around any urban legends.

0:42:33.520 --> 0:42:37.880
<v Speaker 2>There was this forest near me called the Freetown State

0:42:37.960 --> 0:42:43.040
<v Speaker 2>Forest that had a lot of cult action and a

0:42:43.080 --> 0:42:45.799
<v Speaker 2>lot of people would go there and go missing. So

0:42:45.840 --> 0:42:48.400
<v Speaker 2>everyone said there was like a very dark energy in

0:42:48.480 --> 0:42:50.200
<v Speaker 2>there and a lot of witchcraft. There was a lot

0:42:50.239 --> 0:42:53.239
<v Speaker 2>of witchcraft I guess around me for sure, But I

0:42:53.239 --> 0:42:56.800
<v Speaker 2>don't know if there was more so like ghosts or

0:42:56.920 --> 0:42:57.879
<v Speaker 2>urban legends.

0:42:58.120 --> 0:43:01.759
<v Speaker 1>What about Ed and Lorraine Warren? Are you familiar with them?

0:43:02.000 --> 0:43:05.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah? I've seen the Conjuring aren't they Rhode Island there?

0:43:06.400 --> 0:43:09.799
<v Speaker 2>I think they were no Connecticut, but they had they

0:43:09.840 --> 0:43:11.240
<v Speaker 2>went to a house in Rhode Island.

0:43:11.600 --> 0:43:13.880
<v Speaker 1>Rhode Island, Yes, that's what it is. Rhode Island is

0:43:13.960 --> 0:43:15.840
<v Speaker 1>the Conjuring House.

0:43:16.200 --> 0:43:20.279
<v Speaker 2>Mm hmmm, yeah, exactly. So I think it's just with

0:43:21.160 --> 0:43:23.640
<v Speaker 2>its statistics, right, Like I'm sure that's why I feel

0:43:23.680 --> 0:43:25.840
<v Speaker 2>like Europe has so many, so much lore going on

0:43:25.920 --> 0:43:29.040
<v Speaker 2>over there, because it's just older, you know what I mean. Yeah,

0:43:29.080 --> 0:43:31.200
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how much haunting is going on in

0:43:31.239 --> 0:43:33.799
<v Speaker 2>Las Vegas, Nevada. Is it just too new in those

0:43:33.840 --> 0:43:36.000
<v Speaker 2>new developments? Like can we get fresh ghosts?

0:43:36.280 --> 0:43:40.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't necessarily agree with that because, like to me,

0:43:40.680 --> 0:43:43.759
<v Speaker 1>it's yes, the older you are, the more opportunities for

0:43:43.800 --> 0:43:49.200
<v Speaker 1>people to die over the years. But Las Vegas, those casinos,

0:43:49.520 --> 0:43:53.400
<v Speaker 1>from what I've heard, oh, they are haunted. You just

0:43:53.400 --> 0:43:57.279
<v Speaker 1>wouldn't think because it's not like super spooky. But I've

0:43:58.520 --> 0:44:03.600
<v Speaker 1>stumbled upon different I don't know, tiktoks or something of

0:44:03.719 --> 0:44:09.080
<v Speaker 1>different people that work like as maintenance workers in Vegas hotels,

0:44:09.239 --> 0:44:13.040
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, it's so scary to have that job

0:44:13.080 --> 0:44:14.200
<v Speaker 1>because the ghosts.

0:44:14.520 --> 0:44:17.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh and you know people probably die a lot in Vegas,

0:44:18.160 --> 0:44:22.160
<v Speaker 2>especially in the hotels. Yeah, do you think we have

0:44:22.200 --> 0:44:24.160
<v Speaker 2>any control if we have if we become a ghost?

0:44:24.200 --> 0:44:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Do you think everyone's a ghost? Do you think everyone

0:44:26.040 --> 0:44:28.160
<v Speaker 2>gets that opportunity or is it the select and chosen?

0:44:28.640 --> 0:44:32.440
<v Speaker 1>I don't I think that people. This is my personal

0:44:32.480 --> 0:44:35.120
<v Speaker 1>opinion based on what I hear. I think if you

0:44:35.200 --> 0:44:38.560
<v Speaker 1>die peacefully accepting that you're gonna die, then you can

0:44:38.640 --> 0:44:41.160
<v Speaker 1>kind of pick and choose if you want to, like

0:44:41.360 --> 0:44:44.960
<v Speaker 1>come back on a podcast when you're when like your

0:44:45.000 --> 0:44:47.520
<v Speaker 1>relatives are talking to you or whatever. Like, I think

0:44:47.520 --> 0:44:50.279
<v Speaker 1>that you can come and go like that. Oh, but

0:44:50.400 --> 0:44:54.160
<v Speaker 1>I think that if you aren't like at peace with dying,

0:44:54.200 --> 0:44:56.400
<v Speaker 1>then you're, like you could you can end up stuck

0:44:56.440 --> 0:44:59.840
<v Speaker 1>someplace as it goes. That's what I think.

0:45:00.280 --> 0:45:03.360
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that makes sense. I think if you're dying

0:45:03.360 --> 0:45:06.160
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas in a hotel, maybe you're not at peace.

0:45:06.360 --> 0:45:08.440
<v Speaker 2>Maybe that was not the way you chose to end

0:45:08.480 --> 0:45:11.480
<v Speaker 2>at all. So hey, so Vegas is haunted. Where is

0:45:11.520 --> 0:45:13.480
<v Speaker 2>the place that's not haunted. Let's think about that.

0:45:16.280 --> 0:45:20.000
<v Speaker 1>Anywhere I go. I swear to God, you don't know

0:45:20.120 --> 0:45:23.200
<v Speaker 1>how frustrating it is to like book a hotel room

0:45:23.280 --> 0:45:25.759
<v Speaker 1>that's haunted and you're like, Okay, I'm ready, let's do it.

0:45:25.760 --> 0:45:27.719
<v Speaker 1>I got the cameras out, and the ghosts are like, no,

0:45:27.960 --> 0:45:30.840
<v Speaker 1>we actually just decided we're not in our ghost place anymore.

0:45:31.760 --> 0:45:32.799
<v Speaker 1>We've left that era.

0:45:33.400 --> 0:45:36.360
<v Speaker 2>No, they're too private all of a sudden. That's so ridiculous,

0:45:36.400 --> 0:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>And honestly, it's disrespectful to you because and they said

0:45:39.960 --> 0:45:42.400
<v Speaker 2>they're gonna fuck with you like that. That's crazy. Listen,

0:45:42.440 --> 0:45:45.080
<v Speaker 2>if you come to Massachusetts all Julazy boarding with you,

0:45:45.160 --> 0:45:47.120
<v Speaker 2>we'll shoot it to Salem. We'll just tire our best,

0:45:47.600 --> 0:45:49.960
<v Speaker 2>we'll put your ghost machines out the window everywhere we drive,

0:45:50.000 --> 0:45:51.919
<v Speaker 2>and we'll just see what we catch left and right.

0:45:52.000 --> 0:45:54.800
<v Speaker 1>Yes, I'm dying to go to Salem. Wait, let me

0:45:54.840 --> 0:45:58.040
<v Speaker 1>ask you a couple more questions, though. What do you

0:45:58.120 --> 0:46:00.279
<v Speaker 1>think about Hero?

0:46:00.840 --> 0:46:04.359
<v Speaker 2>Oh? I love it, and to me, it's kind of

0:46:04.440 --> 0:46:08.719
<v Speaker 2>like comforting. I like to watch it a lot on lives. Oh,

0:46:08.760 --> 0:46:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I enjoy it. I kind of think it's almost like

0:46:11.560 --> 0:46:13.839
<v Speaker 2>ASMR in a way where it's like scratching a part

0:46:13.880 --> 0:46:18.360
<v Speaker 2>of my brain. I had my cards read during after

0:46:18.480 --> 0:46:22.560
<v Speaker 2>prom by a woman with a terrible haircut, and nothing

0:46:22.680 --> 0:46:25.640
<v Speaker 2>was making sense. But I don't I think Taro can

0:46:25.960 --> 0:46:28.600
<v Speaker 2>lean if it's like if it's probably the spectrum. Is

0:46:28.640 --> 0:46:30.840
<v Speaker 2>it A good reader? Is it? I don't think I

0:46:30.880 --> 0:46:32.680
<v Speaker 2>got the best reading, but I don't think it was.

0:46:32.960 --> 0:46:35.520
<v Speaker 2>I don't blame Taro. I brain Tara. That was probably

0:46:35.520 --> 0:46:39.239
<v Speaker 2>her name or something. But I like it. Though. I

0:46:39.239 --> 0:46:40.560
<v Speaker 2>think it's pretty.

0:46:40.640 --> 0:46:43.400
<v Speaker 1>It's like she it is, it really is, And I

0:46:43.440 --> 0:46:46.439
<v Speaker 1>think some people are really they have a beautiful way

0:46:46.480 --> 0:46:50.479
<v Speaker 1>of describing and interpreting what they mean. For sure.

0:46:50.719 --> 0:46:55.320
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like poetry almost it is kind of like, oh god, yeah,

0:46:55.400 --> 0:46:58.200
<v Speaker 2>I'm it. I'm into Taro. I want to do that now.

0:46:58.560 --> 0:47:00.239
<v Speaker 2>We're Can I find a tarot reader at the time

0:47:00.239 --> 0:47:01.759
<v Speaker 2>a night in Charlotte, North Carolina?

0:47:01.840 --> 0:47:04.520
<v Speaker 1>Oh, you can find one. You'll find one. I believe

0:47:04.520 --> 0:47:09.640
<v Speaker 1>in you. What okay? Last one aliens you at both

0:47:10.320 --> 0:47:10.879
<v Speaker 1>all of it.

0:47:11.200 --> 0:47:13.360
<v Speaker 2>I believe in it. I think we're seeing it. I

0:47:13.400 --> 0:47:15.839
<v Speaker 2>think we're seeing it really like, I think we're seeing

0:47:15.840 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 2>it now. But also there's this whole conversation with like

0:47:20.000 --> 0:47:21.840
<v Speaker 2>when they find they make contact. They're going to like

0:47:21.920 --> 0:47:24.319
<v Speaker 2>ruin us or whatever, and at that point, I think

0:47:24.360 --> 0:47:27.960
<v Speaker 2>we have enough going on. It's like I'm not Someone

0:47:28.000 --> 0:47:29.960
<v Speaker 2>made this comment about it online. They were like, you've

0:47:29.960 --> 0:47:32.120
<v Speaker 2>been raw dogging us too long, like you either here

0:47:32.280 --> 0:47:36.239
<v Speaker 2>or not, Like we've lost interest, Like I'm not scared anymore. Seriously,

0:47:37.000 --> 0:47:40.719
<v Speaker 2>there's no way we're the only people here so or

0:47:40.760 --> 0:47:43.399
<v Speaker 2>the only beings here, however you want to phrase it.

0:47:43.480 --> 0:47:46.319
<v Speaker 2>But I think aliens are real and we're just like

0:47:46.360 --> 0:47:48.760
<v Speaker 2>waiting for the unveiled. But it's taking a little too long.

0:47:48.840 --> 0:47:52.280
<v Speaker 2>Like the teaser, I'm teased out, like I need a cigarette.

0:47:52.280 --> 0:47:53.360
<v Speaker 2>All of a sudden, I'm bored.

0:47:53.800 --> 0:47:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it's very much like one of a pop stars,

0:47:58.080 --> 0:48:01.080
<v Speaker 1>like I'm going to release a new album. I'm gonna

0:48:01.120 --> 0:48:03.200
<v Speaker 1>release the new album and it's like six years later

0:48:03.200 --> 0:48:05.200
<v Speaker 1>and it's like we don't we don't even want to

0:48:05.200 --> 0:48:05.800
<v Speaker 1>hear it anymore.

0:48:06.000 --> 0:48:08.759
<v Speaker 2>Just say Normani at this point, Normani was using an

0:48:08.840 --> 0:48:11.280
<v Speaker 2>album for six years and we're like, come on, girl,

0:48:11.520 --> 0:48:13.319
<v Speaker 2>just give it. And that's what the aliens have been

0:48:13.360 --> 0:48:17.279
<v Speaker 2>doing to us. But I love alien shows because the

0:48:17.280 --> 0:48:19.399
<v Speaker 2>people that comes, oh my.

0:48:19.360 --> 0:48:23.279
<v Speaker 1>God, like real ones you're talking about like ones about aliens.

0:48:23.560 --> 0:48:26.040
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like a documentary like to show like when people

0:48:26.080 --> 0:48:29.279
<v Speaker 2>get interviewed, because when it always seems like the kind

0:48:29.280 --> 0:48:31.520
<v Speaker 2>of person that was abducted is a little out to

0:48:31.600 --> 0:48:34.399
<v Speaker 2>lunch a little bit, but that all kind of coincides

0:48:34.440 --> 0:48:36.879
<v Speaker 2>with being abducted and having something happen on that shit,

0:48:37.080 --> 0:48:39.359
<v Speaker 2>Like that's what they that's what happens. You don't come

0:48:39.400 --> 0:48:40.359
<v Speaker 2>back normal.

0:48:40.400 --> 0:48:44.880
<v Speaker 1>That's the thing. If that happened to you, try sounding normal,

0:48:45.040 --> 0:48:48.840
<v Speaker 1>try sounding you know, coherent or whatever.

0:48:49.200 --> 0:48:52.040
<v Speaker 2>Well, and then there's sometimes there's like multiple times like

0:48:52.239 --> 0:48:54.440
<v Speaker 2>the same people saw the same thing. I'm like, not

0:48:54.719 --> 0:48:58.440
<v Speaker 2>everyone can be crazy right now, like there's probably some

0:48:58.560 --> 0:49:02.279
<v Speaker 2>truth to it when people can answer any of these

0:49:02.360 --> 0:49:05.239
<v Speaker 2>kind of topics, right besides big vote for me, like

0:49:05.360 --> 0:49:08.600
<v Speaker 2>with such absolute I think that's ridiculous, Like none of

0:49:08.680 --> 0:49:11.360
<v Speaker 2>us know. Either the government's hiding it or these spiritual

0:49:11.440 --> 0:49:14.160
<v Speaker 2>beings are just smarter than us to hide themselves. Like

0:49:14.800 --> 0:49:17.840
<v Speaker 2>anything is possible. That's why I'm walking in every space

0:49:17.880 --> 0:49:20.880
<v Speaker 2>with positivity because I don't want anything latching onto me.

0:49:21.200 --> 0:49:22.600
<v Speaker 1>Hell yeah, I can't.

0:49:22.640 --> 0:49:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I can't be playing with Ouiji boards, Wiji boards. It's

0:49:24.960 --> 0:49:27.319
<v Speaker 2>like it's just it's it's too much. I can't open

0:49:27.320 --> 0:49:27.720
<v Speaker 2>the door.

0:49:28.200 --> 0:49:31.799
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, well, I'm so happy I opened the door. And

0:49:32.320 --> 0:49:33.160
<v Speaker 1>how do you come in?

0:49:33.719 --> 0:49:36.520
<v Speaker 2>You're you're kind of like my mediator in between the

0:49:36.640 --> 0:49:39.359
<v Speaker 2>in the world. If I need advice, I'm gonna come

0:49:39.400 --> 0:49:42.239
<v Speaker 2>to this show. I'm gonna come to you say help me,

0:49:42.280 --> 0:49:44.680
<v Speaker 2>help me connect because I'm too scared to do it myself.

0:49:44.880 --> 0:49:47.000
<v Speaker 1>I mean, I don't know. I don't even know if

0:49:47.040 --> 0:49:50.160
<v Speaker 1>I connect with ghosts. But my whole thing is, you

0:49:50.200 --> 0:49:51.760
<v Speaker 1>just treat ghosts like they're humans.

0:49:52.120 --> 0:49:55.600
<v Speaker 2>M hm, because they are. They were You're just.

0:49:55.600 --> 0:49:59.360
<v Speaker 1>Like, bitch, where are you? Why aren't you talking to me?

0:50:00.719 --> 0:50:02.960
<v Speaker 2>Oh? We should got like a text hotline with ghosts

0:50:03.080 --> 0:50:07.120
<v Speaker 2>so we can do shorthand girl, where are you at? Oh?

0:50:07.239 --> 0:50:09.319
<v Speaker 1>Exactly? Well that's what a Weedi born is.

0:50:10.120 --> 0:50:11.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh okay, okay.

0:50:11.800 --> 0:50:16.040
<v Speaker 1>They just do it different. They're more analogue. Okay, Well

0:50:16.080 --> 0:50:18.399
<v Speaker 1>that's it. We've made it to the to the end.

0:50:18.719 --> 0:50:20.360
<v Speaker 1>That was so quick and fun.

0:50:20.880 --> 0:50:23.520
<v Speaker 2>That was a sweet little bite into the worlds of

0:50:23.560 --> 0:50:26.399
<v Speaker 2>the paranormal. And maybe that was my journey and maybe

0:50:26.400 --> 0:50:28.560
<v Speaker 2>that was why we were here all along. My little

0:50:28.640 --> 0:50:31.239
<v Speaker 2>my little I was getting my little feet wet right now.

0:50:31.360 --> 0:50:36.360
<v Speaker 1>That's what I like. Yeah, just a little wet foot.

0:50:36.640 --> 0:50:39.120
<v Speaker 1>I'm not trying to get all the way in there

0:50:39.239 --> 0:50:41.560
<v Speaker 1>when it comes to the paranormal. You know, we just

0:50:41.640 --> 0:50:43.840
<v Speaker 1>we'd like to talk about it, have a little kiki,

0:50:43.880 --> 0:50:46.160
<v Speaker 1>a little laugh, and then we move on with our day.

0:50:46.440 --> 0:50:48.960
<v Speaker 2>This was such a treat and I hope that one

0:50:49.000 --> 0:50:50.680
<v Speaker 2>day I get to meet you in real life. I

0:50:50.719 --> 0:50:51.920
<v Speaker 2>hope I see you in a couple of weeks and

0:50:51.960 --> 0:50:54.080
<v Speaker 2>I'm in Los Angeles because I just think you are

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<v Speaker 2>a national treasure and you're doing and you're doing the

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<v Speaker 2>work for the paranormal and the community. You're just a success,

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<v Speaker 2>and so it's such a talent. I just love you.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you're amazing.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you you too. I'm such a fan. Tell people

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<v Speaker 1>where they can see you because you're on tour. Where

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<v Speaker 1>do they get the tickets? Where do they find out

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<v Speaker 1>the dates?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll be on tour all month long, and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>gonna continue out throughout the year. So when this episode

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<v Speaker 2>comes out, I'll be in Boston the next week, and

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<v Speaker 2>I'll be in New Jersey fingers crossed for June, and

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<v Speaker 2>then in the fall and I'll hop on tour again

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<v Speaker 2>and do some more Midwest cities, so those will be announced,

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<v Speaker 2>but you can follow me at Zachary Porter pretty much

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<v Speaker 2>everywhere and see where I'm gonna be next. Unlike the show,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm more of a character person. I'm gonna wig. But

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<v Speaker 2>maybe I'll create a character that's a ghost hunter in

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<v Speaker 2>some sort of fabulous long, silver, dreamy wig. That's kind

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<v Speaker 2>of how I would want myself to be as a

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<v Speaker 2>ghost hunter.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, easy, easy.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta I gotta, I gotta, I gotta come in.

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<v Speaker 2>I gotta come in small, my foot, my foot, just

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<v Speaker 2>tap it into the water.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, my lawyers will talk to you. Thank you so much.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up behind you?

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<v Speaker 2>Get out of here. I'm almost set with this.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you so much to Zachariah Porter. And he's touring.

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<v Speaker 1>Go go see him live. He's touring. I'm touring. Hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>we're not doing the same time the same night ever,

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<v Speaker 1>because that would be what choices you'd have to make.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that's the case, but yeah, check out

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<v Speaker 1>both of our dates. I love you all, both living

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<v Speaker 1>and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

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<v Speaker 1>don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly

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<v Speaker 1>right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you

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<v Speaker 1>so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>You can send a DM or voice message to the

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<v Speaker 1>show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

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<v Speaker 1>while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

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<v Speaker 1>Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

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<v Speaker 1>My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

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<v Speaker 1>is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

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<v Speaker 1>sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

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<v Speaker 1>is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

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<v Speaker 1>hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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<v Speaker 1>the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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<v Speaker 1>Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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<v Speaker 1>by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,

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<v Speaker 1>and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.