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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, he.

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Speaker 1: Said, Nandaz Please, hey boo, it's me Roz and welcome

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Speaker 1: to Ghosted by Roz Hernandez, the podcast where I talk

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Speaker 1: to people that I like about the paranormal.

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Speaker 2: Oh my gord.

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Speaker 1: I was joined on this episode by Zachariah Porter, who

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Speaker 1: is someone that I became a huge fan of because

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Speaker 1: of his hilarious Instagram. I'm sure TikTok to video. I

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Speaker 1: follow him on instag I'm more of an Instagram person myself.

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Speaker 1: Very funny, very very funny person. Okay, and the Instagram,

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Speaker 1: I mean, we're talking in the millions, honey followers, so

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Speaker 1: I ain't alone in that. We had a great time.

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Speaker 1: We even get a Teresa Capudo first hand story from

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Speaker 1: Zachariah Porter. Can't wait for you to listen. Hey, I

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Speaker 1: have one fun announcement about me and and my career.

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Speaker 1: You know, I record these far in advance, so I

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Speaker 1: this very very moment that I'm recording this, but I

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Speaker 1: am planning a stand up comedy tour and I'm really

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Speaker 1: trying to hit a ton of cities because I'm going

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Speaker 1: to be doing most of my shows. I mean, I

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Speaker 1: would say ninety nine percent of my shows at queer,

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Speaker 1: oh o venues. So we're talking gay bars, that sort

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Speaker 2: And because.

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Speaker 1: There's these kinds of places all over the world. Now,

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Speaker 1: sometimes I encounter people where they'll say, wait, but why

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Speaker 1: won't you come to this TD tiny town. Okay, maybe

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Speaker 1: I can't do that, but I'm definitely gonna be doing

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Speaker 1: a lot. So just check out my Instagram and you

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Speaker 1: can find all that there. I don't know, there's a

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Speaker 1: You never know anyway. So yeah, Instagram, my linktreelinktree dot com,

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Speaker 1: slash Rosernandez have all that info. Hey let me read

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Speaker 1: you a story. Okay, this one's kind of long, but

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Speaker 1: This one comes from Rachel. Rachel says it should have

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Speaker 1: been my best birthday ever. My gal Pale had booked

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Speaker 1: us a ghost tour to Atchison, Kansas. I was so

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Speaker 1: Ghost Taxi and it included all the usual Atchison haunts.

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Speaker 1: I'm picturing Buster Poindexter and scrooged, Oh yeah, the taxi, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: but a Halloween version. Instead, we met the Ghost Taxi

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Speaker 1: something that the tour guy called the Demon House. Okay,

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Speaker 1: Demon House after six hours.

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Speaker 1: It was a ramshackle ranch with a few gravestones stuck

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Speaker 1: and the whole tour took nine hours. I assure you.

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Speaker 1: I am gagged, I am gooped, I am all adjectives

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Speaker 2: Hello, Oh my god, it is gay Joy. All day.

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Speaker 2: I've been looking forward to this all day. I was

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Speaker 2: I'm so excited. How are you today?

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Speaker 1: I am thrilled. I'm a big fan of your videos

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Speaker 2: Well, it's funny because my boyfriend is so obsessed with

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Speaker 2: His ex's mom got it from like a convention or

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Speaker 2: Like wait, like like back in the porch, where was she?

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Speaker 2: Kids are creative. They'll get into some haunted stuff. So

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Speaker 1: Don't know, I just could be it, says Christmas of

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Speaker 2: Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, not the bilingual

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Speaker 1: Good for her, good for her Latina icon. There is

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Speaker 2: Yeah, Like, how do you move on from something like that?

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Speaker 2: You know, like she's still out there in a landfill,

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Speaker 1: I love for her. I love her. She's like, you

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Speaker 1: What's that all about?

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Speaker 2: Well, you know what's so funny. I think my my

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Speaker 2: she's like seven months pregnant, and she goes, I know

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Speaker 2: it because I was like, why is it Jackson, Why

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Speaker 2: the prophecy continues, this is his like assent to fame.

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Speaker 2: And I was like, I can't believe this. And now

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Speaker 2: And I wonder, and I'm being really vulnerable here, and

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Speaker 2: I don't want to toot my own horn, but I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I didn't get that direct call out from some sort

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Speaker 1: That's the thing with like a psychic. Maybe they maybe

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I see it always seems like it's

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Speaker 1: I can't tell you how jealous I am with that.

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Speaker 2: Well, I believe in it. I actually do believe, and

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Speaker 1: Tell me everything about Teresa.

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Speaker 2: she jumps in and these Ferragamo thigh high slouch brown

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Speaker 1: She's so unapologetic about that, and I love it. It's

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Speaker 2: Oh my god, she's such a peanut, and I'm like,

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Speaker 2: I've always been a fan beyond just what she does.

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Speaker 2: And I was like praying it would be my Nana.

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Speaker 2: custom like drag queen wigs. I ordered from a drag

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Speaker 2: think of is like, Nana, how dare you embarrass me

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Speaker 2: so pissed to her. I'm so pissed to her because

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Speaker 1: That would make me mad too. Yeah, I always talk

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Speaker 2: They spy, they're watching from the great beyond and they're

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Speaker 2: And then I had to check myself because I'm like,

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Speaker 2: it was cool. It was cool. She's cool. She's a babitch.

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Speaker 2: I'm obsessed with her.

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Speaker 1: I'm obsessed with her too, And this is just one

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Speaker 2: Well, I wanted to make a video with her and

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Speaker 2: I'd love to be like Mom running into Terista Caputo

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Speaker 1: I get that, because I've actually had people ask me

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Speaker 1: when I am doing it, when I am going go something,

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00:25:04,760 --> 00:25:07,280
Speaker 1: it's real. I don't want that to get confused. So

431
00:25:07,320 --> 00:25:11,520
Speaker 1: I get that from her. She's cool. Well, now I'm thinking,

432
00:25:11,560 --> 00:25:14,840
Speaker 1: so you said she's five foot two, she's six foot

433
00:25:14,880 --> 00:25:17,880
Speaker 1: with the hair, though I'm to my shoulder with the hair,

434
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,640
Speaker 1: I swear to I think she's at baseline, maybe four

435
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:20,960
Speaker 1: to eight.

436
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:24,680
Speaker 2: Like because she was wearing top like I was obsessed

437
00:25:24,760 --> 00:25:27,280
Speaker 2: with the outfit because like this louch brown leather like

438
00:25:27,280 --> 00:25:30,320
Speaker 2: like printed fer Obama like boots. I was like, you

439
00:25:30,560 --> 00:25:34,199
Speaker 2: better work like she's she's a looker. She's kind of

440
00:25:34,240 --> 00:25:35,640
Speaker 2: like a drag queen herself.

441
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,200
Speaker 1: She's got such a look to her and the nails,

442
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,359
Speaker 1: all of that. I really appreciate. I appreciate anyone where

443
00:25:43,440 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 1: you can very easily be them for Halloween, like there's

444
00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:51,800
Speaker 1: no question who you are. She gives you enough distinct

445
00:25:51,960 --> 00:25:54,359
Speaker 1: traits about her, and I think that's that's how you

446
00:25:54,359 --> 00:25:56,760
Speaker 1: make an icon. I think she's iconic.

447
00:25:57,240 --> 00:25:59,440
Speaker 2: You gotta have a look. You have a real strong look.

448
00:26:00,119 --> 00:26:01,080
Speaker 2: The bangs are so you.

449
00:26:02,320 --> 00:26:06,320
Speaker 1: I'm about ninety five percent bangs. That's about what I

450
00:26:06,400 --> 00:26:08,360
Speaker 1: have to offer the world. As these bangs.

451
00:26:09,480 --> 00:26:11,520
Speaker 2: I'm buying it. I'm buying it every single day.

452
00:26:11,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 1: They've changed my life.

453
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:14,919
Speaker 2: I'll put it on debit if I have to.

454
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 1: I don't know what I would do about these things

455
00:26:17,840 --> 00:26:22,159
Speaker 1: on my head. I love them. You know what. This

456
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:26,879
Speaker 1: has definitely become a doll kind of episode, a fashion episode.

457
00:26:27,560 --> 00:26:29,639
Speaker 1: Maybe we should just look at a haunted doll.

458
00:26:30,200 --> 00:26:31,640
Speaker 2: Oh, I love a look at a haunted doll.

459
00:26:32,119 --> 00:26:38,800
Speaker 1: It's time for the dolls are living. I apologize this

460
00:26:38,840 --> 00:26:41,440
Speaker 1: one is not one of the more glamorous that we've

461
00:26:41,480 --> 00:26:47,040
Speaker 1: ever had, but it is definitely creepy. So Jiha, could

462
00:26:47,040 --> 00:26:49,600
Speaker 1: you please show us this doll? You got it? Ros?

463
00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 2: Oh? Oh my god?

464
00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:55,399
Speaker 1: There she is?

465
00:26:56,320 --> 00:27:02,320
Speaker 2: Was it microwaved? It's like features like elongated and also bloated.

466
00:27:04,840 --> 00:27:07,879
Speaker 1: So what we're looking at is a baby doll in

467
00:27:07,960 --> 00:27:11,359
Speaker 1: a moomoo. And it's one of the classic things I

468
00:27:11,440 --> 00:27:13,800
Speaker 1: love that we sometimes see from these dolls, which is

469
00:27:14,560 --> 00:27:17,160
Speaker 1: bronze are on the face, but you forgot the arms,

470
00:27:18,200 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 1: so we can tell that it's there's a separation there.

471
00:27:22,119 --> 00:27:25,199
Speaker 1: I don't know if somebody put a head on this

472
00:27:25,560 --> 00:27:28,960
Speaker 1: doll's body that didn't originally belong to it. I am

473
00:27:29,000 --> 00:27:32,840
Speaker 1: not sure. It's got some very scary dead eyes.

474
00:27:33,280 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: I love when a baby has a torso that's eighty

475
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,600
Speaker 2: percent of its body. Like, that's just like a really

476
00:27:38,600 --> 00:27:40,240
Speaker 2: good vibe for anyone.

477
00:27:39,880 --> 00:27:45,719
Speaker 1: Honestly, especially because the way that the moomoo is it

478
00:27:45,880 --> 00:27:48,560
Speaker 1: kind of makes it look like she's got little boobs

479
00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: and like long body. She also has like that cloth

480
00:27:55,000 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: base of a body. Oh I hate that, and it

481
00:27:58,200 --> 00:28:00,960
Speaker 1: ends up looking like a T shirt. It looks like

482
00:28:01,040 --> 00:28:04,240
Speaker 1: she's like wearing a T shirt under a swimsuit at

483
00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:05,480
Speaker 1: the pool. Kind of a thing.

484
00:28:05,800 --> 00:28:06,120
Speaker 2: Uh huh.

485
00:28:06,640 --> 00:28:11,439
Speaker 1: She's she's not cute. I'm sorry. She's definitely scary looking

486
00:28:12,280 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 1: and kind of looks like a grown adult as well.

487
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:19,639
Speaker 2: She looks like if like she's had a couple drinks

488
00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:21,800
Speaker 2: at the bar and someone walked in that she's excited

489
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:23,760
Speaker 2: to catch eyes with, So she's kind of just looking

490
00:28:23,800 --> 00:28:27,679
Speaker 2: and waiting for that reaction like I see you, eh, bloodshot.

491
00:28:27,920 --> 00:28:32,879
Speaker 1: Now I'm guessing that the bloodshot was added in as

492
00:28:32,960 --> 00:28:35,640
Speaker 1: someone that's trying to make a couple extra bucks here.

493
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,240
Speaker 1: Because here's the thing with this doll. Now, if I

494
00:28:38,280 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 1: told you that this doll is incredibly haunted and it

495
00:28:40,360 --> 00:28:43,239
Speaker 1: looks like this, and you're somebody that is looking for

496
00:28:43,320 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 1: that sort of a companion in your life, how much

497
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:48,840
Speaker 1: money would you spend on this doll?

498
00:28:49,240 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 2: Oh? If I was a collector, uh huh.

499
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:54,760
Speaker 1: And then it's real hated, super haunted.

500
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:57,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess well, the haunting has to be the

501
00:28:58,080 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 2: number one sell on here because on a physical level,

502
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 2: this doll is the ugliest thing I've ever seen in

503
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 2: my entire life. I don't know what the market is.

504
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:08,560
Speaker 2: The market's got to be hot. I would go. I

505
00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:13,360
Speaker 2: would start the bidding at maybe seventy dollars.

506
00:29:12,600 --> 00:29:16,960
Speaker 1: That seems legit. This one is no bidding. It's a

507
00:29:17,040 --> 00:29:21,960
Speaker 1: by it now situation. And it's three hundred and fifty dollars.

508
00:29:22,840 --> 00:29:25,680
Speaker 2: Wow. So when they do this, do they give you

509
00:29:25,720 --> 00:29:27,800
Speaker 2: a little detail about what kind of haunting are you

510
00:29:27,800 --> 00:29:28,480
Speaker 2: gonna expect?

511
00:29:28,680 --> 00:29:29,560
Speaker 1: Of course?

512
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:30,960
Speaker 2: Okay, good, All.

513
00:29:30,920 --> 00:29:35,080
Speaker 1: Right, here's what it says. This doll is a negative energy,

514
00:29:35,520 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: but we do not believe it to be demonic. We

515
00:29:38,680 --> 00:29:42,040
Speaker 1: have worked with this energy on multiple occasions and have

516
00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,880
Speaker 1: not had the same results that we do with demonic presences.

517
00:29:47,280 --> 00:29:50,000
Speaker 1: We believe this doll to have an attachment that is

518
00:29:50,040 --> 00:29:54,560
Speaker 1: a human female spirit that is angry and very depressed.

519
00:29:55,160 --> 00:29:58,440
Speaker 1: We have had some poultergeist activity with this doll, but

520
00:29:58,720 --> 00:30:02,040
Speaker 1: nothing that has caused arm or that has been damaged.

521
00:30:02,320 --> 00:30:07,720
Speaker 1: The most recent memorable thing was a bag of potato

522
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: chips that was slid across the counter and put into

523
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:16,760
Speaker 1: the sink. We heard the bag rustling from another room,

524
00:30:17,240 --> 00:30:21,000
Speaker 1: so we know it wasn't done by accident or Unknowingly,

525
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:26,840
Speaker 1: our medium has confirmed our suspicions as well as she

526
00:30:26,920 --> 00:30:29,760
Speaker 1: has said that she feels as if the spirit puts

527
00:30:29,840 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: up a shield to keep her from connecting. Our medium

528
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:38,520
Speaker 1: also feels that it is a human spirit. This doll

529
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:42,400
Speaker 1: was found in the rubble of the house. That is

530
00:30:42,480 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 1: in the pictures. You can see the ghost of the

531
00:30:46,120 --> 00:30:49,920
Speaker 1: little girl circled in red. Okay, so as we can

532
00:30:50,000 --> 00:30:53,920
Speaker 1: see here, there's also a photo of a pile of

533
00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:59,000
Speaker 1: junk and there is a little doll circled I guess

534
00:30:59,400 --> 00:31:01,920
Speaker 1: in the pile junk that's where they found it. So

535
00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:05,440
Speaker 1: they found that ugly little girl, and they said, you're

536
00:31:05,440 --> 00:31:08,400
Speaker 1: coming with us and we're gonna sell you on eBay.

537
00:31:08,800 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 2: I can't. I'm so, I'm so hooked up on this

538
00:31:11,280 --> 00:31:13,960
Speaker 2: house for a minute. Was this a hurricane? No, the

539
00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:17,520
Speaker 2: trees are still stand in What happened to this goddamn house?

540
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:18,360
Speaker 2: It was her?

541
00:31:19,360 --> 00:31:23,120
Speaker 1: It was her. She's a palter, guys. She didn't get

542
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:24,800
Speaker 1: her potato chips in time.

543
00:31:25,280 --> 00:31:29,080
Speaker 2: What's the difference between a demonic spirit and then like

544
00:31:29,120 --> 00:31:31,760
Speaker 2: an angry spirit? Like, what's the line there?

545
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:37,920
Speaker 1: Well, you know, many people will have different things to say,

546
00:31:37,960 --> 00:31:42,000
Speaker 1: but my understanding is basically, a demonic spirit is like

547
00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 1: something that never was human. It's just like a negative

548
00:31:47,160 --> 00:31:53,600
Speaker 1: dark energy that usually feeds on people's fear, and depending

549
00:31:53,640 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: on how Christian you want to get with it, it's sort

550
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 1: of that thing. But then there's just other spirits that

551
00:31:59,760 --> 00:32:04,320
Speaker 1: are just bitches, And that's what they're saying about this one, like, oh,

552
00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:06,680
Speaker 1: she's not a demon. This was a living woman that

553
00:32:06,880 --> 00:32:09,680
Speaker 1: died found herself inside of here, and she is not

554
00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:13,600
Speaker 1: happy about it, and she wants potato chips. You better

555
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:16,600
Speaker 1: give them to her or she will start throwing things.

556
00:32:17,400 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: I've never been mad at a brady doll. You know,

557
00:32:20,560 --> 00:32:22,240
Speaker 2: she's just kind of throwing it around.

558
00:32:22,440 --> 00:32:24,040
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect that.

559
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:24,840
Speaker 2: I do too.

560
00:32:25,280 --> 00:32:28,440
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's like, put me back in my pile of rubble.

561
00:32:28,880 --> 00:32:30,360
Speaker 1: I didn't even ask to be here.

562
00:32:30,600 --> 00:32:33,320
Speaker 2: This increases her value. This is like what we want

563
00:32:33,360 --> 00:32:35,360
Speaker 2: to see out of a doll. I don't want something

564
00:32:35,400 --> 00:32:37,840
Speaker 2: that's too far gone. You know, if it's to dark

565
00:32:37,880 --> 00:32:40,240
Speaker 2: and in a religious that's scaring me. But this is

566
00:32:40,520 --> 00:32:42,720
Speaker 2: if you just want some sort of annoying bitch in

567
00:32:42,760 --> 00:32:45,200
Speaker 2: your house. She just kind of causes a little stir

568
00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:48,240
Speaker 2: once in a while. This might be worth the three point.

569
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:49,480
Speaker 1: Fifty, you get it.

570
00:32:49,680 --> 00:32:51,920
Speaker 2: She could have been five if she didn't have that face.

571
00:32:52,160 --> 00:32:52,760
Speaker 2: Poor girl.

572
00:32:53,040 --> 00:32:55,680
Speaker 1: I know the face, because that's the thing you could

573
00:32:55,720 --> 00:32:58,640
Speaker 1: have this, you know, the spirit. Oh, that'd be fun

574
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 1: to have around. Why not? I get lonely sometimes I

575
00:33:01,880 --> 00:33:06,320
Speaker 1: don't want to have to look at this doll, not

576
00:33:06,400 --> 00:33:09,280
Speaker 1: in that dress. Not in that dress, And I am

577
00:33:09,400 --> 00:33:12,240
Speaker 1: too afraid to take it off and first of all

578
00:33:12,280 --> 00:33:13,640
Speaker 1: find out what's underneath there.

579
00:33:13,760 --> 00:33:14,880
Speaker 2: But mi'll doom.

580
00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480
Speaker 1: I'm not putting her in anything else. She could use

581
00:33:17,480 --> 00:33:19,640
Speaker 1: a wig, though, I'll give her. I will say that.

582
00:33:19,880 --> 00:33:22,320
Speaker 2: Wait, that might be kind of fun, just to give

583
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:24,280
Speaker 2: her a different Hey, maybe that might lighten her up

584
00:33:24,320 --> 00:33:24,560
Speaker 2: a bit.

585
00:33:24,800 --> 00:33:26,040
Speaker 1: Maybe that's what she needs.

586
00:33:26,600 --> 00:33:27,880
Speaker 2: Give the girl some hair.

587
00:33:28,200 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: Maybe she's like, bitch, you left my wig and that

588
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:34,959
Speaker 1: pile of trash and then you took me bald headed.

589
00:33:36,040 --> 00:33:38,160
Speaker 2: Give her a bottle and a bob and she'll be

590
00:33:38,400 --> 00:33:38,960
Speaker 2: just fine.

591
00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:45,840
Speaker 1: Everybody has some Lais crispy potato chips. Oh okay, can

592
00:33:45,880 --> 00:33:47,440
Speaker 1: I play you some ghost voices?

593
00:33:47,760 --> 00:33:50,479
Speaker 2: Oh my, I've been watching this part on the show

594
00:33:51,080 --> 00:33:53,720
Speaker 2: and I always pause and try to do it myself,

595
00:33:54,200 --> 00:33:59,160
Speaker 2: and it's pretty tricky you and then you say it,

596
00:33:59,200 --> 00:34:00,800
Speaker 2: and then I'm like, oh, that's what it was. Of

597
00:34:00,840 --> 00:34:02,280
Speaker 2: course it was that. How did I miss it?

598
00:34:02,360 --> 00:34:05,520
Speaker 1: Well? That's the thing. These people are out there looking

599
00:34:06,160 --> 00:34:11,719
Speaker 1: for problems and excitements from the other side, and all

600
00:34:11,719 --> 00:34:14,839
Speaker 1: of a sudden they discover in their recordings that there's

601
00:34:14,840 --> 00:34:17,920
Speaker 1: some kind of thing. That's why I'm always like, I

602
00:34:17,960 --> 00:34:22,239
Speaker 1: absolutely believe, Yes, that is some kind of thing. That's

603
00:34:22,640 --> 00:34:25,120
Speaker 1: I can't say it's a ghost. I can't say it's

604
00:34:25,120 --> 00:34:28,239
Speaker 1: a dead person going up to your camera talking, but

605
00:34:28,800 --> 00:34:33,279
Speaker 1: it's something I find a little bit of humor in

606
00:34:33,320 --> 00:34:36,080
Speaker 1: the thought of people being like, here's what it said.

607
00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly, with such with such like definition, we don't

608
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,840
Speaker 2: know what we even heard. Relax a little bit, awad it.

609
00:34:42,880 --> 00:34:45,360
Speaker 1: We don't know. I'm not even ken you. I've watched

610
00:34:45,480 --> 00:34:48,359
Speaker 1: hundreds and I've listened to so many of these over

611
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:52,520
Speaker 1: the years, and there's a lot of times where I'm like, babe,

612
00:34:52,680 --> 00:34:57,680
Speaker 1: like that was that was like your leather jacket squeaking.

613
00:34:58,000 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: That was not a ghost.

614
00:35:02,239 --> 00:35:03,719
Speaker 2: That's a new balance squeaking.

615
00:35:03,920 --> 00:35:07,359
Speaker 1: Okay, that is a new balance that that is a

616
00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:13,400
Speaker 1: very specifically a fart that is not a ghost speaking.

617
00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:16,399
Speaker 2: I'm gonna do my best. I'm gonna really try. I'm

618
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:19,920
Speaker 2: gonna lock in for sure, Okay, lock right in.

619
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:29,680
Speaker 1: It's time for EVP or ev plice. Okay, So I've

620
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:32,720
Speaker 1: gone to YouTube. I have found these on a channel

621
00:35:32,840 --> 00:35:34,960
Speaker 1: called Spooky Shivers.

622
00:35:35,560 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: Oh I love that. Grab a sweater, everybody.

623
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:43,160
Speaker 1: It's gonna get cold and shooker. And these are people

624
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:47,839
Speaker 1: that find these voices all on the East Coast. They're

625
00:35:47,880 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: they're kind of gatekeeping where this one, this first one

626
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:53,120
Speaker 1: is from, because it just says it's a private location.

627
00:35:53,360 --> 00:35:54,880
Speaker 1: That's all you need to know. So I don't know

628
00:35:54,880 --> 00:35:58,080
Speaker 1: if they broke in someplace west and they didn't want

629
00:35:58,080 --> 00:35:58,440
Speaker 1: to out them.

630
00:35:58,880 --> 00:35:59,279
Speaker 2: I don't know.

631
00:35:59,360 --> 00:36:05,040
Speaker 1: Maybe they're just protecting someone's privacy. But private location somewhere

632
00:36:05,040 --> 00:36:05,960
Speaker 1: in Rhode Island.

633
00:36:06,440 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm from there. I'm from there. That's crazy. Oh

634
00:36:09,640 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 2: my god, this is local to me. This is local lore.

635
00:36:14,120 --> 00:36:17,719
Speaker 2: Everybody I'm taking you might know this ghost.

636
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:21,320
Speaker 1: It's near that she finally came through.

637
00:36:23,480 --> 00:36:26,160
Speaker 2: Stop, I'm dying. That's exactly what's happening right now. Okay,

638
00:36:26,200 --> 00:36:30,600
Speaker 2: let's do it. Let's do it. I'm freaking out.

639
00:36:36,120 --> 00:36:44,080
Speaker 1: Okay, let me play it again one more time.

640
00:36:49,840 --> 00:36:51,600
Speaker 2: That's a lot of words, it is.

641
00:36:51,640 --> 00:36:52,479
Speaker 1: It's a long one.

642
00:36:53,120 --> 00:36:56,400
Speaker 2: I heard show me him at the end.

643
00:36:56,640 --> 00:37:00,400
Speaker 1: Yes, something, show me him. Wait wait wait, what's first

644
00:37:00,440 --> 00:37:07,920
Speaker 1: part though? Totally wait?

645
00:37:08,040 --> 00:37:10,520
Speaker 2: Oh and that's like that's first of all, a full

646
00:37:10,520 --> 00:37:14,840
Speaker 2: grown a full grown man. So I'm already scared of that. Yeah. Secondly,

647
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:17,960
Speaker 2: why does he have so much to say? Relax? You

648
00:37:18,000 --> 00:37:18,719
Speaker 2: already did it all.

649
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:25,440
Speaker 1: He's like, it's my time to speak his testimony. Well,

650
00:37:26,040 --> 00:37:28,560
Speaker 1: it was one of these options. Do they think it

651
00:37:28,640 --> 00:37:34,160
Speaker 1: was a He's kind of a dick, isn't he. B

652
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:40,239
Speaker 1: I want to have a lick, come over here, f

653
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:46,879
Speaker 1: he's gonna shit a brick any minute? Or d you

654
00:37:46,920 --> 00:37:49,520
Speaker 1: give me the dick, you nasty bitch.

655
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 2: I'm hoping for four. Can we hear it again?

656
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,320
Speaker 1: Yeah?

657
00:37:58,760 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 2: What do you think it is?

658
00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:04,640
Speaker 1: Well, they believe it is c he's going to shit

659
00:38:04,719 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 1: a brick any minute. Well yeah, okay, now that we

660
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:14,520
Speaker 1: know that, let's listen to it.

661
00:38:16,480 --> 00:38:19,200
Speaker 2: I kind of hear it the any minute for sure.

662
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:21,360
Speaker 2: I'm definitely hearing the any minute he's gonna show. And

663
00:38:21,440 --> 00:38:24,040
Speaker 2: that's like condextually, it makes complete sense. And did they

664
00:38:24,040 --> 00:38:25,839
Speaker 2: shoud a brick when they heard that? Because get out

665
00:38:25,840 --> 00:38:26,839
Speaker 2: of there, it's scaring you.

666
00:38:27,680 --> 00:38:32,000
Speaker 1: Here's another one. This is from some residential location from

667
00:38:32,080 --> 00:38:36,160
Speaker 1: also spooky Shivers. I don't know where exactly, what town

668
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:38,480
Speaker 1: or anyw place, but it's somewhere over there on the

669
00:38:38,520 --> 00:38:45,719
Speaker 1: East coast. I'm guessing what is it saying? Okay, this

670
00:38:45,760 --> 00:38:49,240
Speaker 1: one is definitely worse. I'm playing again.

671
00:38:54,600 --> 00:38:56,680
Speaker 2: I heard a growl, I heard some sort.

672
00:38:56,520 --> 00:39:07,319
Speaker 1: Of did they think it was a Thank God? I'm

673
00:39:07,360 --> 00:39:14,839
Speaker 1: so over this, b Frank, Carol, no more people see

674
00:39:16,040 --> 00:39:19,960
Speaker 1: thank you for being so nice to me? Or d

675
00:39:20,920 --> 00:39:25,440
Speaker 1: drink up. It's time to get crazy. Okay, let me

676
00:39:25,480 --> 00:39:26,040
Speaker 1: play it. Again.

677
00:39:30,680 --> 00:39:33,000
Speaker 2: I gotta be honest, I'm not hearing it. I'm hearing

678
00:39:33,239 --> 00:39:35,799
Speaker 2: but I want Frank Carroll. I want more about Frank

679
00:39:35,840 --> 00:39:37,520
Speaker 2: and Carroll. That's what I felt.

680
00:39:37,719 --> 00:39:40,200
Speaker 1: Well, that's what they think it is. They think it's

681
00:39:40,280 --> 00:39:48,560
Speaker 1: b Frank Carol, no more people. Wait a second, Okay,

682
00:39:48,600 --> 00:39:51,640
Speaker 1: Frank Carol, no more people. That's like kind of the

683
00:39:52,280 --> 00:39:59,480
Speaker 1: Frank Carol no more people. I kind of hear it.

684
00:40:00,200 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 2: I heard it there. I heard it there. I heard

685
00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,200
Speaker 2: it there, and I was I just wanted it because

686
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:06,960
Speaker 2: I thought that was drama and tea. Who is Franking Carol?

687
00:40:07,080 --> 00:40:10,520
Speaker 2: And honestly no more. In both of these scenarios, it

688
00:40:10,560 --> 00:40:13,400
Speaker 2: looks like the ghosts are not into the hunters now.

689
00:40:13,520 --> 00:40:17,240
Speaker 1: They're like, we've had enough of this, please leave us alone.

690
00:40:17,239 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: It's just like that haunt a doll, leave her and

691
00:40:19,719 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: the pile of rubble. Leave Frank and Carol alone, or

692
00:40:23,760 --> 00:40:25,080
Speaker 1: whoever these ghosts are.

693
00:40:27,200 --> 00:40:28,960
Speaker 2: You know what, Elsa didn't want to be left alone.

694
00:40:29,680 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 2: That was a doll.

695
00:40:31,280 --> 00:40:34,200
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that's yes, you're right, that's a good point.

696
00:40:34,200 --> 00:40:36,640
Speaker 1: That is confusing because I guess some of these do

697
00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,960
Speaker 1: want to be around living people. But that's what I

698
00:40:41,960 --> 00:40:43,920
Speaker 1: think it is. I think it's when you're like looking

699
00:40:44,000 --> 00:40:46,280
Speaker 1: for it. You know, if you're looking, if you're going

700
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: a place recording a ghost, the ghost might be like, get.

701
00:40:50,360 --> 00:40:54,440
Speaker 2: I ought to hear yeah, exactly exactly, or there's over it,

702
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:56,400
Speaker 2: or they're going to like haunt you even more or

703
00:40:56,440 --> 00:40:58,960
Speaker 2: scare you because you're like you're testing them. I don't

704
00:40:59,040 --> 00:41:01,799
Speaker 2: test fate like that with this kind of stuff. I

705
00:41:01,880 --> 00:41:04,200
Speaker 2: respected I want to walk into a house so I

706
00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,040
Speaker 2: feel like there's a little bit of a spook energy.

707
00:41:06,320 --> 00:41:09,840
Speaker 2: I'm like, I'm here, you're here, we're here together. I'm you,

708
00:41:09,960 --> 00:41:11,880
Speaker 2: We're you sleeping. I'll sleep in a different room. Just

709
00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,480
Speaker 2: let me know. You can have your pick of bedrooms.

710
00:41:15,160 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 1: Totally. We should all have our own Spacey, Well, let's

711
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:23,279
Speaker 1: do one last thing. I will, uh just kind of

712
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:26,960
Speaker 1: throw out a couple of paranormal things and see your

713
00:41:27,000 --> 00:41:27,719
Speaker 1: thoughts on that.

714
00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:29,640
Speaker 2: Okay, we'll do a temp truck.

715
00:41:30,239 --> 00:41:34,000
Speaker 1: Bigfoot my favorite to talk about Bigfoot.

716
00:41:35,280 --> 00:41:37,399
Speaker 2: I don't love it. I don't love him. I feel

717
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:40,720
Speaker 2: like at this point you're being annoying, like just step

718
00:41:40,760 --> 00:41:43,759
Speaker 2: out on business already, Like the fact that we can't

719
00:41:43,760 --> 00:41:46,040
Speaker 2: get a good picture of him or her or them.

720
00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:48,600
Speaker 2: I don't know. I just am over bigfoot. I don't

721
00:41:48,640 --> 00:41:51,480
Speaker 2: believe in it. And every time we see a footprint,

722
00:41:51,640 --> 00:41:54,080
Speaker 2: it's just a little like, how is it that the

723
00:41:54,120 --> 00:41:56,760
Speaker 2: photo is so grainy but the footprint is so perfect?

724
00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,399
Speaker 2: Just you know what I mean? I don't love it.

725
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:04,399
Speaker 1: Toe to that's true. And also how can somebody have

726
00:42:04,920 --> 00:42:08,480
Speaker 1: so many TV shows about them yet they've never been

727
00:42:08,560 --> 00:42:11,200
Speaker 1: on the TV shows? I mean that's impressive.

728
00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:14,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, And with deforestation going on, like there's only so

729
00:42:15,000 --> 00:42:16,920
Speaker 2: many places you can hide at this point, you know

730
00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:19,480
Speaker 2: where are you? We would have found you already.

731
00:42:20,040 --> 00:42:21,239
Speaker 1: So you don't believe in it?

732
00:42:21,320 --> 00:42:23,759
Speaker 2: Okay, I don't believe in it, but I love an

733
00:42:23,840 --> 00:42:26,000
Speaker 2: urban legend. Like if you're gonna pour me a cocktail

734
00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,600
Speaker 2: and sit around a campfire, I'll listen do it all day.

735
00:42:28,640 --> 00:42:29,640
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna shut it down.

736
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,120
Speaker 1: Did you grow up around any urban legends.

737
00:42:33,520 --> 00:42:37,880
Speaker 2: There was this forest near me called the Freetown State

738
00:42:37,960 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: Forest that had a lot of cult action and a

739
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:45,799
Speaker 2: lot of people would go there and go missing. So

740
00:42:45,840 --> 00:42:48,400
Speaker 2: everyone said there was like a very dark energy in

741
00:42:48,480 --> 00:42:50,200
Speaker 2: there and a lot of witchcraft. There was a lot

742
00:42:50,239 --> 00:42:53,239
Speaker 2: of witchcraft I guess around me for sure, But I

743
00:42:53,239 --> 00:42:56,800
Speaker 2: don't know if there was more so like ghosts or

744
00:42:56,920 --> 00:42:57,879
Speaker 2: urban legends.

745
00:42:58,120 --> 00:43:01,759
Speaker 1: What about Ed and Lorraine Warren? Are you familiar with them?

746
00:43:02,000 --> 00:43:05,920
Speaker 2: Yeah? I've seen the Conjuring aren't they Rhode Island there?

747
00:43:06,400 --> 00:43:09,799
Speaker 2: I think they were no Connecticut, but they had they

748
00:43:09,840 --> 00:43:11,240
Speaker 2: went to a house in Rhode Island.

749
00:43:11,600 --> 00:43:13,880
Speaker 1: Rhode Island, Yes, that's what it is. Rhode Island is

750
00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:15,840
Speaker 1: the Conjuring House.

751
00:43:16,200 --> 00:43:20,279
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm, yeah, exactly. So I think it's just with

752
00:43:21,160 --> 00:43:23,640
Speaker 2: its statistics, right, Like I'm sure that's why I feel

753
00:43:23,680 --> 00:43:25,840
Speaker 2: like Europe has so many, so much lore going on

754
00:43:25,920 --> 00:43:29,040
Speaker 2: over there, because it's just older, you know what I mean. Yeah,

755
00:43:29,080 --> 00:43:31,200
Speaker 2: I don't know how much haunting is going on in

756
00:43:31,239 --> 00:43:33,799
Speaker 2: Las Vegas, Nevada. Is it just too new in those

757
00:43:33,840 --> 00:43:36,000
Speaker 2: new developments? Like can we get fresh ghosts?

758
00:43:36,280 --> 00:43:40,440
Speaker 1: I don't necessarily agree with that because, like to me,

759
00:43:40,680 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: it's yes, the older you are, the more opportunities for

760
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:49,200
Speaker 1: people to die over the years. But Las Vegas, those casinos,

761
00:43:49,520 --> 00:43:53,400
Speaker 1: from what I've heard, oh, they are haunted. You just

762
00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:57,279
Speaker 1: wouldn't think because it's not like super spooky. But I've

763
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:03,600
Speaker 1: stumbled upon different I don't know, tiktoks or something of

764
00:44:03,719 --> 00:44:09,080
Speaker 1: different people that work like as maintenance workers in Vegas hotels,

765
00:44:09,239 --> 00:44:13,040
Speaker 1: and they're like, it's so scary to have that job

766
00:44:13,080 --> 00:44:14,200
Speaker 1: because the ghosts.

767
00:44:14,520 --> 00:44:17,840
Speaker 2: Oh and you know people probably die a lot in Vegas,

768
00:44:18,160 --> 00:44:22,160
Speaker 2: especially in the hotels. Yeah, do you think we have

769
00:44:22,200 --> 00:44:24,160
Speaker 2: any control if we have if we become a ghost?

770
00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:26,040
Speaker 2: Do you think everyone's a ghost? Do you think everyone

771
00:44:26,040 --> 00:44:28,160
Speaker 2: gets that opportunity or is it the select and chosen?

772
00:44:28,640 --> 00:44:32,440
Speaker 1: I don't I think that people. This is my personal

773
00:44:32,480 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 1: opinion based on what I hear. I think if you

774
00:44:35,200 --> 00:44:38,560
Speaker 1: die peacefully accepting that you're gonna die, then you can

775
00:44:38,640 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 1: kind of pick and choose if you want to, like

776
00:44:41,360 --> 00:44:44,960
Speaker 1: come back on a podcast when you're when like your

777
00:44:45,000 --> 00:44:47,520
Speaker 1: relatives are talking to you or whatever. Like, I think

778
00:44:47,520 --> 00:44:50,279
Speaker 1: that you can come and go like that. Oh, but

779
00:44:50,400 --> 00:44:54,160
Speaker 1: I think that if you aren't like at peace with dying,

780
00:44:54,200 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 1: then you're, like you could you can end up stuck

781
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 1: someplace as it goes. That's what I think.

782
00:45:00,280 --> 00:45:03,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that makes sense. I think if you're dying

783
00:45:03,360 --> 00:45:06,160
Speaker 2: in Vegas in a hotel, maybe you're not at peace.

784
00:45:06,360 --> 00:45:08,440
Speaker 2: Maybe that was not the way you chose to end

785
00:45:08,480 --> 00:45:11,480
Speaker 2: at all. So hey, so Vegas is haunted. Where is

786
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:13,480
Speaker 2: the place that's not haunted. Let's think about that.

787
00:45:16,280 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 1: Anywhere I go. I swear to God, you don't know

788
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:23,200
Speaker 1: how frustrating it is to like book a hotel room

789
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:25,759
Speaker 1: that's haunted and you're like, Okay, I'm ready, let's do it.

790
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:27,719
Speaker 1: I got the cameras out, and the ghosts are like, no,

791
00:45:27,960 --> 00:45:30,840
Speaker 1: we actually just decided we're not in our ghost place anymore.

792
00:45:31,760 --> 00:45:32,799
Speaker 1: We've left that era.

793
00:45:33,400 --> 00:45:36,360
Speaker 2: No, they're too private all of a sudden. That's so ridiculous,

794
00:45:36,400 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 2: And honestly, it's disrespectful to you because and they said

795
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,400
Speaker 2: they're gonna fuck with you like that. That's crazy. Listen,

796
00:45:42,440 --> 00:45:45,080
Speaker 2: if you come to Massachusetts all Julazy boarding with you,

797
00:45:45,160 --> 00:45:47,120
Speaker 2: we'll shoot it to Salem. We'll just tire our best,

798
00:45:47,600 --> 00:45:49,960
Speaker 2: we'll put your ghost machines out the window everywhere we drive,

799
00:45:50,000 --> 00:45:51,919
Speaker 2: and we'll just see what we catch left and right.

800
00:45:52,000 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 1: Yes, I'm dying to go to Salem. Wait, let me

801
00:45:54,840 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 1: ask you a couple more questions, though. What do you

802
00:45:58,120 --> 00:46:00,279
Speaker 1: think about Hero?

803
00:46:00,840 --> 00:46:04,359
Speaker 2: Oh? I love it, and to me, it's kind of

804
00:46:04,440 --> 00:46:08,719
Speaker 2: like comforting. I like to watch it a lot on lives. Oh,

805
00:46:08,760 --> 00:46:11,480
Speaker 2: I enjoy it. I kind of think it's almost like

806
00:46:11,560 --> 00:46:13,839
Speaker 2: ASMR in a way where it's like scratching a part

807
00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: of my brain. I had my cards read during after

808
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:22,560
Speaker 2: prom by a woman with a terrible haircut, and nothing

809
00:46:22,680 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: was making sense. But I don't I think Taro can

810
00:46:25,960 --> 00:46:28,600
Speaker 2: lean if it's like if it's probably the spectrum. Is

811
00:46:28,640 --> 00:46:30,840
Speaker 2: it A good reader? Is it? I don't think I

812
00:46:30,880 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 2: got the best reading, but I don't think it was.

813
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:35,520
Speaker 2: I don't blame Taro. I brain Tara. That was probably

814
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,239
Speaker 2: her name or something. But I like it. Though. I

815
00:46:39,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 2: think it's pretty.

816
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:43,400
Speaker 1: It's like she it is, it really is, And I

817
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:46,439
Speaker 1: think some people are really they have a beautiful way

818
00:46:46,480 --> 00:46:50,479
Speaker 1: of describing and interpreting what they mean. For sure.

819
00:46:50,719 --> 00:46:55,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, like poetry almost it is kind of like, oh god, yeah,

820
00:46:55,400 --> 00:46:58,200
Speaker 2: I'm it. I'm into Taro. I want to do that now.

821
00:46:58,560 --> 00:47:00,239
Speaker 2: We're Can I find a tarot reader at the time

822
00:47:00,239 --> 00:47:01,759
Speaker 2: a night in Charlotte, North Carolina?

823
00:47:01,840 --> 00:47:04,520
Speaker 1: Oh, you can find one. You'll find one. I believe

824
00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:09,640
Speaker 1: in you. What okay? Last one aliens you at both

825
00:47:10,320 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 1: all of it.

826
00:47:11,200 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 2: I believe in it. I think we're seeing it. I

827
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:15,839
Speaker 2: think we're seeing it really like, I think we're seeing

828
00:47:15,840 --> 00:47:19,960
Speaker 2: it now. But also there's this whole conversation with like

829
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:21,840
Speaker 2: when they find they make contact. They're going to like

830
00:47:21,920 --> 00:47:24,319
Speaker 2: ruin us or whatever, and at that point, I think

831
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:27,960
Speaker 2: we have enough going on. It's like I'm not Someone

832
00:47:28,000 --> 00:47:29,960
Speaker 2: made this comment about it online. They were like, you've

833
00:47:29,960 --> 00:47:32,120
Speaker 2: been raw dogging us too long, like you either here

834
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,239
Speaker 2: or not, Like we've lost interest, Like I'm not scared anymore. Seriously,

835
00:47:37,000 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 2: there's no way we're the only people here so or

836
00:47:40,760 --> 00:47:43,399
Speaker 2: the only beings here, however you want to phrase it.

837
00:47:43,480 --> 00:47:46,319
Speaker 2: But I think aliens are real and we're just like

838
00:47:46,360 --> 00:47:48,760
Speaker 2: waiting for the unveiled. But it's taking a little too long.

839
00:47:48,840 --> 00:47:52,280
Speaker 2: Like the teaser, I'm teased out, like I need a cigarette.

840
00:47:52,280 --> 00:47:53,360
Speaker 2: All of a sudden, I'm bored.

841
00:47:53,800 --> 00:47:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's very much like one of a pop stars,

842
00:47:58,080 --> 00:48:01,080
Speaker 1: like I'm going to release a new album. I'm gonna

843
00:48:01,120 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 1: release the new album and it's like six years later

844
00:48:03,200 --> 00:48:05,200
Speaker 1: and it's like we don't we don't even want to

845
00:48:05,200 --> 00:48:05,800
Speaker 1: hear it anymore.

846
00:48:06,000 --> 00:48:08,759
Speaker 2: Just say Normani at this point, Normani was using an

847
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:11,280
Speaker 2: album for six years and we're like, come on, girl,

848
00:48:11,520 --> 00:48:13,319
Speaker 2: just give it. And that's what the aliens have been

849
00:48:13,360 --> 00:48:17,279
Speaker 2: doing to us. But I love alien shows because the

850
00:48:17,280 --> 00:48:19,399
Speaker 2: people that comes, oh my.

851
00:48:19,360 --> 00:48:23,279
Speaker 1: God, like real ones you're talking about like ones about aliens.

852
00:48:23,560 --> 00:48:26,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, like a documentary like to show like when people

853
00:48:26,080 --> 00:48:29,279
Speaker 2: get interviewed, because when it always seems like the kind

854
00:48:29,280 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 2: of person that was abducted is a little out to

855
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:34,399
Speaker 2: lunch a little bit, but that all kind of coincides

856
00:48:34,440 --> 00:48:36,879
Speaker 2: with being abducted and having something happen on that shit,

857
00:48:37,080 --> 00:48:39,359
Speaker 2: Like that's what they that's what happens. You don't come

858
00:48:39,400 --> 00:48:40,359
Speaker 2: back normal.

859
00:48:40,400 --> 00:48:44,880
Speaker 1: That's the thing. If that happened to you, try sounding normal,

860
00:48:45,040 --> 00:48:48,840
Speaker 1: try sounding you know, coherent or whatever.

861
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:52,040
Speaker 2: Well, and then there's sometimes there's like multiple times like

862
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: the same people saw the same thing. I'm like, not

863
00:48:54,719 --> 00:48:58,440
Speaker 2: everyone can be crazy right now, like there's probably some

864
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:02,279
Speaker 2: truth to it when people can answer any of these

865
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:05,239
Speaker 2: kind of topics, right besides big vote for me, like

866
00:49:05,360 --> 00:49:08,600
Speaker 2: with such absolute I think that's ridiculous, Like none of

867
00:49:08,680 --> 00:49:11,360
Speaker 2: us know. Either the government's hiding it or these spiritual

868
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:14,160
Speaker 2: beings are just smarter than us to hide themselves. Like

869
00:49:14,800 --> 00:49:17,840
Speaker 2: anything is possible. That's why I'm walking in every space

870
00:49:17,880 --> 00:49:20,880
Speaker 2: with positivity because I don't want anything latching onto me.

871
00:49:21,200 --> 00:49:22,600
Speaker 1: Hell yeah, I can't.

872
00:49:22,640 --> 00:49:24,920
Speaker 2: I can't be playing with Ouiji boards, Wiji boards. It's

873
00:49:24,960 --> 00:49:27,319
Speaker 2: like it's just it's it's too much. I can't open

874
00:49:27,320 --> 00:49:27,720
Speaker 2: the door.

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00:49:28,200 --> 00:49:31,799
Speaker 1: Absolutely, well, I'm so happy I opened the door. And

876
00:49:32,320 --> 00:49:33,160
Speaker 1: how do you come in?

877
00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,520
Speaker 2: You're you're kind of like my mediator in between the

878
00:49:36,640 --> 00:49:39,359
Speaker 2: in the world. If I need advice, I'm gonna come

879
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,239
Speaker 2: to this show. I'm gonna come to you say help me,

880
00:49:42,280 --> 00:49:44,680
Speaker 2: help me connect because I'm too scared to do it myself.

881
00:49:44,880 --> 00:49:47,000
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't know. I don't even know if

882
00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:50,160
Speaker 1: I connect with ghosts. But my whole thing is, you

883
00:49:50,200 --> 00:49:51,760
Speaker 1: just treat ghosts like they're humans.

884
00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:55,600
Speaker 2: M hm, because they are. They were You're just.

885
00:49:55,600 --> 00:49:59,360
Speaker 1: Like, bitch, where are you? Why aren't you talking to me?

886
00:50:00,719 --> 00:50:02,960
Speaker 2: Oh? We should got like a text hotline with ghosts

887
00:50:03,080 --> 00:50:07,120
Speaker 2: so we can do shorthand girl, where are you at? Oh?

888
00:50:07,239 --> 00:50:09,319
Speaker 1: Exactly? Well that's what a Weedi born is.

889
00:50:10,120 --> 00:50:11,800
Speaker 2: Oh okay, okay.

890
00:50:11,800 --> 00:50:16,040
Speaker 1: They just do it different. They're more analogue. Okay, Well

891
00:50:16,080 --> 00:50:18,399
Speaker 1: that's it. We've made it to the to the end.

892
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:20,360
Speaker 1: That was so quick and fun.

893
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:23,520
Speaker 2: That was a sweet little bite into the worlds of

894
00:50:23,560 --> 00:50:26,399
Speaker 2: the paranormal. And maybe that was my journey and maybe

895
00:50:26,400 --> 00:50:28,560
Speaker 2: that was why we were here all along. My little

896
00:50:28,640 --> 00:50:31,239
Speaker 2: my little I was getting my little feet wet right now.

897
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:36,360
Speaker 1: That's what I like. Yeah, just a little wet foot.

898
00:50:36,640 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: I'm not trying to get all the way in there

899
00:50:39,239 --> 00:50:41,560
Speaker 1: when it comes to the paranormal. You know, we just

900
00:50:41,640 --> 00:50:43,840
Speaker 1: we'd like to talk about it, have a little kiki,

901
00:50:43,880 --> 00:50:46,160
Speaker 1: a little laugh, and then we move on with our day.

902
00:50:46,440 --> 00:50:48,960
Speaker 2: This was such a treat and I hope that one

903
00:50:49,000 --> 00:50:50,680
Speaker 2: day I get to meet you in real life. I

904
00:50:50,719 --> 00:50:51,920
Speaker 2: hope I see you in a couple of weeks and

905
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:54,080
Speaker 2: I'm in Los Angeles because I just think you are

906
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,920
Speaker 2: a national treasure and you're doing and you're doing the

907
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:02,400
Speaker 2: work for the paranormal and the community. You're just a success,

908
00:51:02,440 --> 00:51:04,680
Speaker 2: and so it's such a talent. I just love you.

909
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:05,560
Speaker 2: I think you're amazing.

910
00:51:06,120 --> 00:51:10,200
Speaker 1: Thank you you too. I'm such a fan. Tell people

911
00:51:10,239 --> 00:51:12,359
Speaker 1: where they can see you because you're on tour. Where

912
00:51:12,360 --> 00:51:14,000
Speaker 1: do they get the tickets? Where do they find out

913
00:51:14,000 --> 00:51:14,480
Speaker 1: the dates?

914
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:17,520
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll be on tour all month long, and I'm

915
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,280
Speaker 2: gonna continue out throughout the year. So when this episode

916
00:51:20,280 --> 00:51:22,040
Speaker 2: comes out, I'll be in Boston the next week, and

917
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:25,040
Speaker 2: I'll be in New Jersey fingers crossed for June, and

918
00:51:25,080 --> 00:51:26,799
Speaker 2: then in the fall and I'll hop on tour again

919
00:51:26,880 --> 00:51:30,360
Speaker 2: and do some more Midwest cities, so those will be announced,

920
00:51:30,400 --> 00:51:32,399
Speaker 2: but you can follow me at Zachary Porter pretty much

921
00:51:32,400 --> 00:51:36,359
Speaker 2: everywhere and see where I'm gonna be next. Unlike the show,

922
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:38,360
Speaker 2: I'm more of a character person. I'm gonna wig. But

923
00:51:38,560 --> 00:51:41,360
Speaker 2: maybe I'll create a character that's a ghost hunter in

924
00:51:41,440 --> 00:51:45,359
Speaker 2: some sort of fabulous long, silver, dreamy wig. That's kind

925
00:51:45,400 --> 00:51:47,400
Speaker 2: of how I would want myself to be as a

926
00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:48,000
Speaker 2: ghost hunter.

927
00:51:48,360 --> 00:51:52,240
Speaker 1: Okay, easy, easy.

928
00:51:54,360 --> 00:51:56,400
Speaker 2: I gotta I gotta, I gotta, I gotta come in.

929
00:51:56,440 --> 00:51:58,960
Speaker 2: I gotta come in small, my foot, my foot, just

930
00:51:58,960 --> 00:51:59,839
Speaker 2: tap it into the water.

931
00:52:02,360 --> 00:52:09,120
Speaker 1: Well, my lawyers will talk to you. Thank you so much.

932
00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:11,799
Speaker 1: What's up behind you?

933
00:52:12,520 --> 00:52:14,480
Speaker 2: Get out of here. I'm almost set with this.

934
00:52:17,960 --> 00:52:22,480
Speaker 1: Thank you so much to Zachariah Porter. And he's touring.

935
00:52:22,680 --> 00:52:26,920
Speaker 1: Go go see him live. He's touring. I'm touring. Hopefully

936
00:52:26,920 --> 00:52:29,359
Speaker 1: we're not doing the same time the same night ever,

937
00:52:29,600 --> 00:52:32,680
Speaker 1: because that would be what choices you'd have to make.

938
00:52:33,480 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: I don't think that's the case, but yeah, check out

939
00:52:36,880 --> 00:52:41,280
Speaker 1: both of our dates. I love you all, both living

940
00:52:41,320 --> 00:52:43,840
Speaker 1: and dead. But if I didn't ask you to haunt me,

941
00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: don't haunt me came back. This has been an exactly

942
00:52:55,239 --> 00:52:59,440
Speaker 1: right production. Want to share your paranormal experience on the podcast.

943
00:53:00,120 --> 00:53:03,680
Speaker 1: Read stories out loud and sometimes I'll even call you

944
00:53:04,000 --> 00:53:08,040
Speaker 1: so email me at ghosted by Roz at gmail dot com.

945
00:53:08,200 --> 00:53:10,640
Speaker 1: You can send a DM or voice message to the

946
00:53:10,680 --> 00:53:14,600
Speaker 1: show's Instagram at ghosted by Roz. Give us a follow

947
00:53:14,600 --> 00:53:18,839
Speaker 1: while you're there, and follow me Roz on Instagram at

948
00:53:19,000 --> 00:53:23,439
Speaker 1: Roz Hernandez and on TikTok and Twitter at It's Roz Hernandez.

949
00:53:24,040 --> 00:53:29,360
Speaker 1: My senior producer is the Startling Jiha Lee. Associate producer

950
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:34,480
Speaker 1: is the alarming Christina Chamberlain. This episode was mixed and

951
00:53:34,560 --> 00:53:39,400
Speaker 1: sound designed by the Eerie Edson Choi. My guest booker

952
00:53:39,480 --> 00:53:44,319
Speaker 1: is the petrifying Patrick Kuttner. Additional production support from the

953
00:53:44,400 --> 00:53:49,040
Speaker 1: hair raising Hannah Kyle Crichton. My theme music is by

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00:53:49,080 --> 00:53:54,680
Speaker 1: the spine Chilling Brendan Lynch Salomon. Artwork by the Spooky

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00:53:55,160 --> 00:54:02,920
Speaker 1: Vanessa Lilac, Photography by the Terrifying Elizabeth Karen. Executive produced

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00:54:03,120 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 1: by the Chilling Karen Kilgareth the Spookky Georgia Hard Start,

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00:54:09,239 --> 00:54:12,280
Speaker 1: and the Frightening Danielle Kramer.