Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to okay F Daily with
Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle. Recording from Where the Home Bunker. Folks,
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to bring to you today a conversation
Speaker 1: that I had with celest the Therapist. You should check
Speaker 1: out her podcast, And we're talking today once again about
Speaker 1: mental health, about what it means to put ourselves forward
Speaker 1: right in recognizing that we are living in incredibly tumultuous times.
Speaker 1: We're living and existing and trying to work and live
Speaker 1: and find joy in compounded trauma and what that looks like.
Speaker 1: So today we dig into the conversations that I've been
Speaker 1: having with all of you with regard to that ambient
Speaker 1: stress that The New York Times talked about, that stress
Speaker 1: that is just running in the back of our minds
Speaker 1: on a day to day that doesn't ever go anywhere.
Speaker 1: And so if we know that that is apparent, and
Speaker 1: we know that it is happening, and if we're unconscious
Speaker 1: of it, then we don't think about the tactics and
Speaker 1: the ways in which we can begin to get that
Speaker 1: stress out of our bodies in healthy ways. So first
Speaker 1: it is about acknowledging the fact that we are stressed
Speaker 1: out that there is a lot going on, and a
Speaker 1: lot of what is happening is sadly out of our control.
Speaker 1: But knowing that there actually are things that we can
Speaker 1: be doing. We can go for walks, we can have
Speaker 1: planned time with family and friends. We can garden, we
Speaker 1: walk with our pets. We can join groups, community groups.
Speaker 1: If you are, you know, politically aligned, as I know
Speaker 1: many of you are, you can go and look for
Speaker 1: campaigns that you can volunteer for in your local counties
Speaker 1: and states and areas that allow you to maybe do
Speaker 1: some door knocking. Even though I got to tell you folks,
Speaker 1: I know folks that are out right now that are
Speaker 1: knocking on doors, and I just have to tell my
Speaker 1: BIPOC folks, my black Indigenous people of color, to be careful.
Speaker 1: And why do I say that specifically to them? Oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know, because we have a tendency to get
Speaker 1: shot by being on other people's doorsteps, and so I
Speaker 1: get really worried about what happens to those volunteers. So
Speaker 1: maybe going in groups, mixed groups of people and acting
Speaker 1: as advocates for each other, if you choose that path.
Speaker 1: But you know what also has gotten me this week
Speaker 1: is I know that people are, you know, chomping at
Speaker 1: the bit, believing that Donald Trump his day is finally coming.
Speaker 1: And I have to tell you that I would not
Speaker 1: count my chickens before they hatch. I would not even
Speaker 1: hold my breath. There's a part of me that believes
Speaker 1: that a lot of what is happening right now is
Speaker 1: just more pomp and circumstance. It's like the busy work
Speaker 1: that a substitute teacher would provide to a student just
Speaker 1: to keep them occupied, but it doesn't actually really do anything.
Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I'm feeling. I know that,
Speaker 1: you know, Weisselberg was found guilty on fifteen felony counts,
Speaker 1: and guess what, He's going to serve less time in
Speaker 1: jail than a black person that was found with a
Speaker 1: dime bag of weed. Right meanwhile, he had assaulted the
Speaker 1: I don't know federal government, right, harming people. But he'll
Speaker 1: serve five months and then he'll go off and collect
Speaker 1: his multimillions or billions. Right. These punishments that are coming down,
Speaker 1: if you can even really call them, that are nothing
Speaker 1: more than a slap on the wrist. It's why these
Speaker 1: people do the shit that they do, because more times
Speaker 1: than not, they don't get caught. And when they do
Speaker 1: get caught, white collar criminals and quotations use it. You know,
Speaker 1: they get a slap on the wrist, they get a
Speaker 1: fine if anything really and so you know, and I see, Oh,
Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham is going to be defined to not testify
Speaker 1: before the Georgia grand jury as he is also calling
Speaker 1: for a transparency from the FBI. I'm like, Lindsay, shut
Speaker 1: the fuck up. Like you can't honestly have it both ways.
Speaker 1: Where at one hand you want to respect law enforcement
Speaker 1: and say that, oh, we need to have transparency all
Speaker 1: for your king Donald Trump. But when we're looking for
Speaker 1: when the American people are looking for transparency into who
Speaker 1: it is that you were threatening and or buying off
Speaker 1: in order to overturn the fucking election for Donald Trump,
Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're all mum's the word. Like,
Speaker 1: I'm just tired. I think that I've gotten to a
Speaker 1: point where I'm just tired. You know, if they all
Speaker 1: get arrested, I'll be surprised. If they don't get arrested
Speaker 1: and they're able to live out their days, I also
Speaker 1: won't be surprised. Right, Like, there is nothing that can
Speaker 1: come out these days that will say, oh, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: this is America doing what it needs to be done
Speaker 1: to hold people accountable. Is the Biden administration doing what
Speaker 1: it needs to be done. Yeah, you know, they're passing
Speaker 1: huge pieces of legislation that of course no one is
Speaker 1: talking really about in the media because they're all tied
Speaker 1: up on in the Donald Trump circus. Right, And so
Speaker 1: you know what will happen during mid terms now that
Speaker 1: we know that Republicans are a rabid cult and everybody
Speaker 1: that they're going to put in positions of power believes
Speaker 1: in over still overturning the twenty twenty election, that believes
Speaker 1: in election fraud, that you know, doesn't believe that people
Speaker 1: should have the right to vote, believes that sixteen year
Speaker 1: olds and ten year old rape victims should become mothers
Speaker 1: enforced into parenthood, That believe that former veterans should be
Speaker 1: teaching children. They have no certification, no degree in teaching whatsoever.
Speaker 1: But you know what they do have a gun and
Speaker 1: quote unquote patriotism. So I guess that'll work in those
Speaker 1: red states. Not to mention what our economy and our
Speaker 1: job force will look like in maybe five to ten
Speaker 1: years when these kids are entering into this place knowing
Speaker 1: very little, right because we don't give a fuck about
Speaker 1: education in this country. So you know, I take everything
Speaker 1: these days with a grain of salt, and it's why
Speaker 1: I think that it's important to have mindfulness practices. I
Speaker 1: think that it's important to dive into your friendships and
Speaker 1: your loved ones and your own community, because what is
Speaker 1: happening outside is just more of the same bullshit white
Speaker 1: sis men doing whatever it is that they want, no
Speaker 1: one holding them accountable. Everyone you know, screaming for a
Speaker 1: little bit just to give the appearance right that we're
Speaker 1: going to do something and make sure that everyone is
Speaker 1: held to the same laws and standards, and then we
Speaker 1: actually do nothing when all of the fanfare and the
Speaker 1: screeches go away. That's pretty much where I am. So
Speaker 1: coming up next my conversation with Celeste the Therapist, to
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Speaker 1: Select their Vicier. I am. I am going to Butcher
Speaker 1: Butcher your your your last name Vicier, who is the
Speaker 1: host of Select the Therapist, a podcast that dives into
Speaker 1: mental health emotional well being. So let's thank you so
Speaker 1: much for taking the time to join us. I want
Speaker 1: to jump in because I am a person who believes
Speaker 1: wholeheartedly in mental health and emotional well being. I think
Speaker 1: that it is the cornerstone of everything that we are
Speaker 1: able to do. So I want to ask you how
Speaker 1: did you get started in therapy and then what prompted
Speaker 1: you to start a podcast? Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: I'm just as excited as you are. I started as
Speaker 1: a therapist mainly because I was working at a homeless
Speaker 1: shelter when I was younger, and people will always say
Speaker 1: thank you, and I was like, why are they thank you?
Speaker 1: MA said thank you for listening. I grew up in
Speaker 1: church and was always told to pray about things, and
Speaker 1: so I went into the phild of psychology and then
Speaker 1: I learned about all the different modalities than I went
Speaker 1: to therapy myself so then I set out, I want
Speaker 1: people to learn about the different modalities of healing. So
Speaker 1: I started to go on like YouTube and periscope, and
Speaker 1: periscope was around and answer questions around mental health. And
Speaker 1: then I and people would say, oh, you're a therapist,
Speaker 1: it's easy for you, and I say, I'm human just
Speaker 1: like you. I have to do the same things I
Speaker 1: talk about. And I said, this was in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 1: I said, well, let me get other people on who
Speaker 1: are doing things to empower people, so that they can
Speaker 1: see it's not just because I'm a therapist that I'm
Speaker 1: able to deliver what I talk about or do the
Speaker 1: things that I do. And so that's the reason why
Speaker 1: I kind of went into this direction of like talking
Speaker 1: to people on my platform and just talking on social
Speaker 1: media around mental health. You know, do you think you
Speaker 1: know over the past couple of decades that mental health
Speaker 1: has become more stream mainstream, and I mean that conversations
Speaker 1: about mental health have become more mainstream. And if you agree,
Speaker 1: why do you think there's been such a ship? Yeah.
Speaker 1: When I first first started coming on social media and
Speaker 1: probably about twenty twelve thirteen, you know, I had people
Speaker 1: saying like why are you talking about that stuff? Or
Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't well received. But because I stay
Speaker 1: focused on my goal is the only reason why I've
Speaker 1: stayed consistent, Not because people were supporting the idea around
Speaker 1: mental health, but because I knew this is what we
Speaker 1: need it. Lately, things have become more mainstream because people
Speaker 1: are struggling one and and part of it is because
Speaker 1: we're in America and people are realizing they can make
Speaker 1: money off of people struggle, right, whether it's weight loss
Speaker 1: or or whatever, right, and so like they're realizing mental
Speaker 1: health is a big thing. So now you have all
Speaker 1: of these things being pushed, these platforms. And I'm not
Speaker 1: knocking platforms or anything, but I think that some of it,
Speaker 1: fortunately is around making the goal is to make money
Speaker 1: and not to help people heal. But I do think
Speaker 1: it's a lot more mainstream, you know, because I think that,
Speaker 1: like you know, the general medical community is you know,
Speaker 1: it's kind of like insurance. The money is not in
Speaker 1: the cure. The money is in the taking, is in
Speaker 1: the keeping of people, you know, making people just well enough. Right,
Speaker 1: it is not about wellness. It is about making sure
Speaker 1: that people are well enough so that you can continue working.
Speaker 1: That's I mean that like, that's that to me is
Speaker 1: in all honesty, That's what the goal is. And the
Speaker 1: freedom I think that mental health, practicing and emotional well being,
Speaker 1: whether it is therapy, meditation, medication, and conjunction with all
Speaker 1: of those things, UM is about not is about freedom, right,
Speaker 1: the freedom like what what does it mean to live
Speaker 1: and exist and be well? Uh? And we're not We're
Speaker 1: not taught those things. And I believe that we're not
Speaker 1: taught it for a reason. UM. And so you know
Speaker 1: when you look around now select and you see you know,
Speaker 1: there are a ton of apps, there are a ton
Speaker 1: of platforms. What do you think that people should steer
Speaker 1: towards right so as not to get caught up in
Speaker 1: the in the grind of capitalism and people trying, like
Speaker 1: you said, to profit off of your pain. What what
Speaker 1: are some of the markers of of UM assistance right
Speaker 1: in terms of apps and what have you that people
Speaker 1: should look for. Yes, I love that question because I
Speaker 1: always tell people, Uh, if you know the things I
Speaker 1: talk about a lot, especially during the pandemic. I talk
Speaker 1: about our sleep routine, UM, moving our bodies and like
Speaker 1: the food we put in our bodies, like you work
Speaker 1: on controlling that because it was with a pandemic, we
Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. And I said, if
Speaker 1: if they had commercials around this stuff, the little things
Speaker 1: that we can do, regardless of socioeconomic status, nobody's going
Speaker 1: to get paid from it. That's why you don't see
Speaker 1: commercials that talk about, oh, are you depressed? Have you
Speaker 1: walked today? You see are you depressed? Take this medication?
Speaker 1: And it's not about me knocking medication, but it's about
Speaker 1: the trajectory and the way that America creates a system
Speaker 1: that makes you believe that in order for you to
Speaker 1: be well, you have to purchase something. And anytime I
Speaker 1: talk about whether I'm talking to my clients or especially
Speaker 1: on social media, the tools that I deliver for people
Speaker 1: to think about doing are things that are right at
Speaker 1: their fingertips. A talk about like grabbing a notebook and
Speaker 1: writing down how you're feeling or listening to something. And
Speaker 1: so I would encourage people, if they are seeing things
Speaker 1: that they don't have access to, to not feel defeated.
Speaker 1: Look at what they do have and look at what
Speaker 1: is available to them. And fortunately, a lot of times
Speaker 1: our mind isn't really solution focused in that way, because
Speaker 1: whether we're talking about mental health or the next iPhone,
Speaker 1: there's this system that we allow ourselves to be attached
Speaker 1: to that makes us believe that we need more and more,
Speaker 1: or we need this in order to be okay, when
Speaker 1: that's just not the case. You know. I will tell
Speaker 1: you that I entered into therapy. It must be five
Speaker 1: years ago, maybe it's five or six years ago, and
Speaker 1: I had been in with my ex wife in couples therapy,
Speaker 1: which had been my first real foray into therapy, and
Speaker 1: then I decided that I really wanted to have you know,
Speaker 1: therapy one on one. And I will tell you that
Speaker 1: for me and I talk about it all the time,
Speaker 1: it has been one of the most empowering and I
Speaker 1: opening relationships that I've had to deepen the relationship that
Speaker 1: I have with myself. Yeah, and to really understand my
Speaker 1: patterns right the good as well as those that I
Speaker 1: would like to shift, and you know, and recognizing that
Speaker 1: you know that unless we honestly make the decisions to
Speaker 1: truly heal, what hurts right that all we are are
Speaker 1: walking around as open wounds, meeting other open wounds, and
Speaker 1: I and and and and not really being in relationship
Speaker 1: in a way that allows us to be a healed
Speaker 1: person connecting with another healed person. What do you say
Speaker 1: to people who still have a negative connotation or understanding
Speaker 1: of what therapy is and what it is supposed to do?
Speaker 1: Because for me it was it's not a fix, all right,
Speaker 1: It's more of like, I'm deciding to go on this
Speaker 1: adventure of understanding who I am, so I understand better
Speaker 1: how I show up. But how do you express it
Speaker 1: to people? So when I went into private practice in
Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I start to understand that therapy wasn't as accessible.
Speaker 1: I had a great experience with my first therapist. It
Speaker 1: sounds like you did as well, But I mean, my
Speaker 1: insurance change and my therapist doesn't take my insurance. I'm
Speaker 1: paying two hundred dollars a session. Who can afford that
Speaker 1: for therapy? So I first want to say, even though
Speaker 1: I believe in therapy, I also know that with the
Speaker 1: way this system works and the finances of what it
Speaker 1: costs to pay for therapy, it's not always accessible. If
Speaker 1: you do have access, right, if your first time doesn't work,
Speaker 1: try not to look at it as if it's a
Speaker 1: done deal, because every therapist different every style is different,
Speaker 1: and I tell people to look at it like you're
Speaker 1: trying on new shoes. It's not like the medical like
Speaker 1: the you go see a PCP. I don't mind if
Speaker 1: I have to see a different PCP because I'm not
Speaker 1: getting intimate details. I'm not being vulnerable. But in therapy,
Speaker 1: building that relationship takes time, and so you want to
Speaker 1: be comfortable with the person that you are seeing. And
Speaker 1: like Danielle is saying, the amount of self awareness you
Speaker 1: get because you gotta understand we're in the picture where
Speaker 1: this is. I mean, I can't see outside of the picture.
Speaker 1: So having if Danielle's my therapist, having her like be like, oh, actually, over,
Speaker 1: if you turn right, you'll actually see it. And I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: you're right. And as much knowledge as I have the
Speaker 1: therapist that I has have, he creates this awareness that
Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, I didn't see it from that angle.
Speaker 1: And I'm a very self aware of person. So if
Speaker 1: you do have the ability to have a therapist, I
Speaker 1: think it's great, And I just want to encourage people
Speaker 1: not to look at it as a one size fits
Speaker 1: all or I have a therapist and that's it. But
Speaker 1: you got to look at the other things you're doing
Speaker 1: outside of therapy. Yeah, I've had people say that therapy
Speaker 1: I like your analogy of trying on shoes. People have
Speaker 1: said therapy is like dating, right. You know, you know,
Speaker 1: some people are very fortunate on the first date that
Speaker 1: they go on, they you know, they meet the person
Speaker 1: that they're that they want to be with. There are
Speaker 1: other people that, you know, they need to continue dating
Speaker 1: and until they find the right fit. And so that
Speaker 1: to me, UM was also a really good uh analogy,
Speaker 1: because you don't just say oh, well, I'm done, especially
Speaker 1: hey like I'm finished, you know, I'm I'm ana walk
Speaker 1: around barefoot. That's not that's not what we're doing here, UM.
Speaker 1: And so I I I love that because I think
Speaker 1: that for a lot of people it helps um take
Speaker 1: down the anxiety a bit of what it is that
Speaker 1: they think, um it is, versus how it ends up
Speaker 1: working out. But I want to ask you this, you know,
Speaker 1: and we talked about this a little bit at the top,
Speaker 1: and I want to dig in deeper now, which is,
Speaker 1: you know, for the past two plus years, so lest
Speaker 1: we have been living inside of one trauma after another.
Speaker 1: I listened to a therapist on I think it was
Speaker 1: a morning show that said that what we are experiencing
Speaker 1: is compacted or compounded excuse me, trauma. Where you started
Speaker 1: out with the instability of our government. On top of that,
Speaker 1: you added in COVID, then you added in a series
Speaker 1: of you know, COVID, more instability, anger, rage. Now we
Speaker 1: have monkey pocks, right, they are shootings on a regular basis.
Speaker 1: Now that we're back in society, there is there's climate
Speaker 1: change and climate disaster that is happening. You know, whether
Speaker 1: you're underwater or on fire, or can't breathe because the
Speaker 1: aerosop louted. It's one thing after another. People are I mean,
Speaker 1: we're seeing I just watched the other day this road
Speaker 1: rage incident that was absolutely insane, right, Like it was
Speaker 1: a turned into like almost vehicular homicide in terms of
Speaker 1: what the reactions from the people. So everyone is on edge, right,
Speaker 1: how do you talk to people about even trying to
Speaker 1: put a finger on what is causing them so much
Speaker 1: angst and anxiety? Right, because it's so much. It isn't
Speaker 1: just one thing, it's a lot of different things. And
Speaker 1: so how are you guiding people, helping them navigate through
Speaker 1: these times? Yeah, great question. I believe that when we
Speaker 1: are in the moment, we can work on creating peace
Speaker 1: in our lives despite what's happening around us. But in
Speaker 1: order for that to happen, we have to uncover what's
Speaker 1: going on. Earlier, you talked about the importance of healing
Speaker 1: and how you're not basically like you're essentially bleeding out
Speaker 1: and surviving life when you're not working on your healing process.
Speaker 1: And sometimes it can be like years and years of
Speaker 1: things to unpack. So it's not like when time sit
Speaker 1: down thing. So you got all your own trauma on
Speaker 1: top of the society stuff that's happening that we are
Speaker 1: impacted by that we're seeing on a regular basis. And
Speaker 1: so when I'm working with people, I am extremely big
Speaker 1: on what's happening right now. What happens when there's like
Speaker 1: a trauma on top of trauma that has not been
Speaker 1: a processed. The emotion that you experience, if it's a
Speaker 1: familiar emotion, your system feels like it's back in that time,
Speaker 1: and you really feel like a victim. You really feel
Speaker 1: like you have no power, You really feel like there
Speaker 1: are no options, like you literally we feel stuck, especially
Speaker 1: if trauma took place as a young child, and as
Speaker 1: a child, we didn't have options. And so when I'm
Speaker 1: working with adults, I am big on asking them how
Speaker 1: are they feeling and bringing up an emotion chart so
Speaker 1: they can look at it. And then I'm feeling this
Speaker 1: because not I am anxious, not I am sad, I
Speaker 1: feel sad. I feel anxious because there's something powerful about
Speaker 1: being able to name what you are feeling and also
Speaker 1: talk about why it's happening, because then your mind can
Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, we're not ten, it's not this
Speaker 1: traumatic thing anymore because that emotion is so familiar to us.
Speaker 1: And so the more we begin to unpack and like
Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty, like I feel anxious because
Speaker 1: like I don't have a job, I don't know where
Speaker 1: my next meal is coming from. It doesn't change the
Speaker 1: fact that you don't have your next meal. But then
Speaker 1: I can try to get into a solution mode to
Speaker 1: plan for it. Maybe I can look and see if
Speaker 1: there's any pantries, maybe I can borrow it. But it's
Speaker 1: hard to get into solution focus mode when you're just
Speaker 1: like I'm anxious, and then that's it. So your system
Speaker 1: and your mind is like Okay, I guess we're anxious
Speaker 1: to less. That's what we're doing. Our mind is believing
Speaker 1: what we tell what would tell it what we tell it,
Speaker 1: whether we're in tune with our thoughts or not. And
Speaker 1: so for me and what I talk to people about
Speaker 1: is being intentional about your day to day. So I'm
Speaker 1: big on paying attention to what I expose myself to visually,
Speaker 1: like what I listen to. I'm mindful of starting my
Speaker 1: day with me, even though like I have a lot
Speaker 1: of privilege and where I'm at in society now, but
Speaker 1: I still have to be mindful on what I entertained
Speaker 1: because my mind is listening. So unfortunately, there's all these
Speaker 1: thoughts and things that we're seeing and we don't even
Speaker 1: recognize that is what is controlling how we are feeling,
Speaker 1: and that's keeping us feeling like we're in a stuck
Speaker 1: place when we're not always stuck. We can create power,
Speaker 1: but we have to be able to tap into that.
Speaker 1: I love that, and I and I love your idea
Speaker 1: of starting your day with me because I do the
Speaker 1: same thing. My phone goes on do not disturb, and
Speaker 1: until I've had the opportunity to meditate, it does not
Speaker 1: come off of do not Disturb. And I too, I
Speaker 1: too am very fortunate in the way that I have
Speaker 1: been able to structure my life and my days um
Speaker 1: where I'm able to you know, again, create space for
Speaker 1: myself in the mornings to be able to acclimate to
Speaker 1: my day, to check in with myself, and then I'm
Speaker 1: able to um enter into the day. And I actually
Speaker 1: I feel the difference if I if I start the
Speaker 1: day and I am not as mindful as I would
Speaker 1: like to be, I feel it throughout the day. And
Speaker 1: so it's just like for me, I understand, you know,
Speaker 1: the money and the privilege that is attached to being
Speaker 1: you know, sadly if you do not have insurance, that
Speaker 1: is it hatched to being able to be in therapy,
Speaker 1: which is why I often say there are so many
Speaker 1: free meditation apps where if nothing else, you know, start
Speaker 1: your day with some form of peace, you know, start
Speaker 1: your day with journaling, and then turn that into you know,
Speaker 1: if it's a guided meditation or some peaceful music or something,
Speaker 1: but carve out that space to book end your day.
Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, after a week, you will feel different.
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Danielle is not lying. And even with
Speaker 1: my apps to have a limit on my apps. I
Speaker 1: have at ten thirty my phone goals on do not disturb.
Speaker 1: There are a lot of because people will say social
Speaker 1: media is creating this, or this is creating this. It's like, actually,
Speaker 1: when you think about your choices, you actually have choices,
Speaker 1: but you're not exercising them. YouTube. I use this breathing circle.
Speaker 1: There's this app. But then if the app is like
Speaker 1: a fifty dollars or something a year, I don't tell
Speaker 1: my clients to go get the app. I say, go
Speaker 1: on YouTube. If you type and breathe and start, there's
Speaker 1: a two minute thing. Some people even have the watches
Speaker 1: that can do the same thing. And so there are
Speaker 1: all these little things in our lives that we can
Speaker 1: create space for. And I work with people that don't
Speaker 1: have the financial means or the time, and I say,
Speaker 1: you know what, give yourself fifteen minutes early before you
Speaker 1: get the kids up or before you go to work.
Speaker 1: Don't roll. Don't roll out of bed into work, because
Speaker 1: all you're doing is like putting all of your energy outward.
Speaker 1: You're not getting anything back, and you're trying to figure
Speaker 1: out why you're depleted. It's like, what have you done?
Speaker 1: Lately for yourself. And so a lot of times people
Speaker 1: will say like, I can't find time, and I'm really
Speaker 1: big on changing their language to saying how do I
Speaker 1: create time? Because a lot of these people that can't
Speaker 1: find time are actually doing so much for other people
Speaker 1: and don't even recognize that there's time in the day.
Speaker 1: I say, look at your social media time spent on
Speaker 1: the look on your phone and see how long you've
Speaker 1: been on social media, and then tell me you can't
Speaker 1: create time. And so a lot of times it's about
Speaker 1: really taking accountability and using what you have starting where
Speaker 1: you are. When I get up from my six am
Speaker 1: gym class, I don't feel like waking up at five
Speaker 1: to do it, but I know like in order for
Speaker 1: me to be okay, I need to move my body.
Speaker 1: And so a lot of times there's some sacrifices that
Speaker 1: we have to create, but it creates for a better day.
Speaker 1: And so that's something that's important for people to understand. Well,
Speaker 1: I love all of that because I you know, my mother,
Speaker 1: who is a yogi where I talk about often says
Speaker 1: that you can't pour from an empty cup, right, So
Speaker 1: this idea of martyrdom, this idea of you know, continual
Speaker 1: sacrifice and somehow you know you'll you'll get it back.
Speaker 1: On the other side, it's just like, well, what are
Speaker 1: you doing now right for yourself? And you're right, it
Speaker 1: isn't about like I don't have time. It's about looking
Speaker 1: at your time differently, right, And I think that mornings
Speaker 1: for me are that time, and evenings as well are
Speaker 1: that time to really know either think about you know,
Speaker 1: what's transpired through the day and give myself grace and
Speaker 1: peace and like what am I grateful for, like closing
Speaker 1: my day with like, you know, just simply I am
Speaker 1: in gratitude, uh, you know, for for the day, for
Speaker 1: waking up, for the conversations that I've had, X, Y
Speaker 1: and Z. But for me, it has been and it
Speaker 1: was COVID. It was it was honestly it was. It
Speaker 1: was the beginning of COVID. It was quarantine. And it
Speaker 1: has been since then, the last two plus years, that
Speaker 1: I've been the most intentional about my you know, my emotional, mental, spiritual,
Speaker 1: uh and physical well being. And I think that no
Speaker 1: one else is going to be in charge of that
Speaker 1: but you so you have to take charge in some way.
Speaker 1: And I just want to make a point when Danielle said,
Speaker 1: since COVID, you know, we were forced to pause. And
Speaker 1: so because some people were able to take that pause
Speaker 1: and you were able to like really create that space
Speaker 1: for yourself and that mindset shifting, and unfortunately some it
Speaker 1: felt like hell of because they've never done that. So
Speaker 1: I'm not saying so my point is that creating intentional
Speaker 1: pauses is important even though life is still moving. Not
Speaker 1: the same as quarantine. Just creating that pause, even if
Speaker 1: it's for five minutes, if you're not used to pausing,
Speaker 1: just give yourself five minutes, set the time or for
Speaker 1: five minutes and pause the little. The more you build
Speaker 1: up that space, the more your mind starts to fall
Speaker 1: in line. Right now, a lot of people, our minds
Speaker 1: are in survival mode and surviving life and living life
Speaker 1: looks completely different. And in order to really get out
Speaker 1: of that cycle of just living in survival mode, you
Speaker 1: got to really create space to like really check in
Speaker 1: and see what's going on with yourself. Beautiful. So last
Speaker 1: I hope that you will take the time to join
Speaker 1: us again. I have loved this conversation and I feel
Speaker 1: like people need it more and more. And if this
Speaker 1: is folks, if this is your first foray, I encourage
Speaker 1: you to go check out Celest the Therapist podcast. So
Speaker 1: let's tell people where they can find you. Yeah, so
Speaker 1: you can find me on all podcasting platforms. If you
Speaker 1: go to my website celest the Therapist dot com, there's
Speaker 1: links there. And all I do is I talk to
Speaker 1: people that are doing things to empower other people by
Speaker 1: sharing this story, and you will hear Danielle's story on
Speaker 1: the podcast, which is exciting. So thank you so much,
Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We appreciate you and hope that
Speaker 1: you will join us again soon. That is it for
Speaker 1: me today. Dear friends on Woke a f as always
Speaker 1: power to the people and to all the people. Power,
Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.