1 00:00:11,840 --> 00:00:14,400 Speaker 1: Good morning, peeps, and welcome to okay F Daily with 2 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:19,799 Speaker 1: Meet your Girl Danielle. Recording from Where the Home Bunker. Folks, 3 00:00:20,040 --> 00:00:23,560 Speaker 1: I'm really excited to bring to you today a conversation 4 00:00:23,920 --> 00:00:27,200 Speaker 1: that I had with celest the Therapist. You should check 5 00:00:27,200 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 1: out her podcast, And we're talking today once again about 6 00:00:31,000 --> 00:00:34,920 Speaker 1: mental health, about what it means to put ourselves forward 7 00:00:35,400 --> 00:00:39,360 Speaker 1: right in recognizing that we are living in incredibly tumultuous times. 8 00:00:39,400 --> 00:00:43,200 Speaker 1: We're living and existing and trying to work and live 9 00:00:43,320 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: and find joy in compounded trauma and what that looks like. 10 00:00:48,600 --> 00:00:53,440 Speaker 1: So today we dig into the conversations that I've been 11 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,480 Speaker 1: having with all of you with regard to that ambient 12 00:00:56,640 --> 00:00:59,360 Speaker 1: stress that The New York Times talked about, that stress 13 00:00:59,440 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: that is just running in the back of our minds 14 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,679 Speaker 1: on a day to day that doesn't ever go anywhere. 15 00:01:05,760 --> 00:01:08,640 Speaker 1: And so if we know that that is apparent, and 16 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:12,119 Speaker 1: we know that it is happening, and if we're unconscious 17 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:14,959 Speaker 1: of it, then we don't think about the tactics and 18 00:01:15,040 --> 00:01:17,560 Speaker 1: the ways in which we can begin to get that 19 00:01:17,680 --> 00:01:21,759 Speaker 1: stress out of our bodies in healthy ways. So first 20 00:01:21,880 --> 00:01:25,520 Speaker 1: it is about acknowledging the fact that we are stressed 21 00:01:25,560 --> 00:01:28,120 Speaker 1: out that there is a lot going on, and a 22 00:01:28,160 --> 00:01:31,119 Speaker 1: lot of what is happening is sadly out of our control. 23 00:01:31,440 --> 00:01:34,520 Speaker 1: But knowing that there actually are things that we can 24 00:01:34,600 --> 00:01:37,119 Speaker 1: be doing. We can go for walks, we can have 25 00:01:37,240 --> 00:01:41,640 Speaker 1: planned time with family and friends. We can garden, we 26 00:01:41,680 --> 00:01:45,920 Speaker 1: walk with our pets. We can join groups, community groups. 27 00:01:46,040 --> 00:01:48,960 Speaker 1: If you are, you know, politically aligned, as I know 28 00:01:49,040 --> 00:01:51,200 Speaker 1: many of you are, you can go and look for 29 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:55,000 Speaker 1: campaigns that you can volunteer for in your local counties 30 00:01:55,040 --> 00:01:57,800 Speaker 1: and states and areas that allow you to maybe do 31 00:01:57,960 --> 00:02:01,000 Speaker 1: some door knocking. Even though I got to tell you folks, 32 00:02:01,800 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: I know folks that are out right now that are 33 00:02:04,160 --> 00:02:07,080 Speaker 1: knocking on doors, and I just have to tell my 34 00:02:07,200 --> 00:02:10,840 Speaker 1: BIPOC folks, my black Indigenous people of color, to be careful. 35 00:02:11,400 --> 00:02:13,959 Speaker 1: And why do I say that specifically to them? Oh, 36 00:02:14,000 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: I don't know, because we have a tendency to get 37 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:20,480 Speaker 1: shot by being on other people's doorsteps, and so I 38 00:02:20,520 --> 00:02:25,040 Speaker 1: get really worried about what happens to those volunteers. So 39 00:02:25,080 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: maybe going in groups, mixed groups of people and acting 40 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:33,280 Speaker 1: as advocates for each other, if you choose that path. 41 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:37,640 Speaker 1: But you know what also has gotten me this week 42 00:02:37,960 --> 00:02:42,680 Speaker 1: is I know that people are, you know, chomping at 43 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:46,520 Speaker 1: the bit, believing that Donald Trump his day is finally coming. 44 00:02:46,880 --> 00:02:49,080 Speaker 1: And I have to tell you that I would not 45 00:02:49,200 --> 00:02:51,880 Speaker 1: count my chickens before they hatch. I would not even 46 00:02:51,919 --> 00:02:54,840 Speaker 1: hold my breath. There's a part of me that believes 47 00:02:54,880 --> 00:02:57,160 Speaker 1: that a lot of what is happening right now is 48 00:02:57,200 --> 00:03:00,200 Speaker 1: just more pomp and circumstance. It's like the busy work 49 00:03:00,240 --> 00:03:03,520 Speaker 1: that a substitute teacher would provide to a student just 50 00:03:03,680 --> 00:03:07,440 Speaker 1: to keep them occupied, but it doesn't actually really do anything. 51 00:03:07,760 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: And that's kind of how I'm feeling. I know that, 52 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,840 Speaker 1: you know, Weisselberg was found guilty on fifteen felony counts, 53 00:03:13,840 --> 00:03:15,840 Speaker 1: and guess what, He's going to serve less time in 54 00:03:15,919 --> 00:03:18,639 Speaker 1: jail than a black person that was found with a 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:23,320 Speaker 1: dime bag of weed. Right meanwhile, he had assaulted the 56 00:03:23,960 --> 00:03:29,079 Speaker 1: I don't know federal government, right, harming people. But he'll 57 00:03:29,160 --> 00:03:32,000 Speaker 1: serve five months and then he'll go off and collect 58 00:03:32,040 --> 00:03:37,480 Speaker 1: his multimillions or billions. Right. These punishments that are coming down, 59 00:03:37,560 --> 00:03:39,520 Speaker 1: if you can even really call them, that are nothing 60 00:03:39,560 --> 00:03:41,640 Speaker 1: more than a slap on the wrist. It's why these 61 00:03:41,680 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: people do the shit that they do, because more times 62 00:03:45,040 --> 00:03:47,280 Speaker 1: than not, they don't get caught. And when they do 63 00:03:47,360 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: get caught, white collar criminals and quotations use it. You know, 64 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: they get a slap on the wrist, they get a 65 00:03:54,120 --> 00:03:58,200 Speaker 1: fine if anything really and so you know, and I see, Oh, 66 00:03:58,280 --> 00:04:01,080 Speaker 1: Lindsay Graham is going to be defined to not testify 67 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,440 Speaker 1: before the Georgia grand jury as he is also calling 68 00:04:05,440 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: for a transparency from the FBI. I'm like, Lindsay, shut 69 00:04:08,480 --> 00:04:11,760 Speaker 1: the fuck up. Like you can't honestly have it both ways. 70 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,800 Speaker 1: Where at one hand you want to respect law enforcement 71 00:04:14,840 --> 00:04:17,560 Speaker 1: and say that, oh, we need to have transparency all 72 00:04:17,600 --> 00:04:20,320 Speaker 1: for your king Donald Trump. But when we're looking for 73 00:04:20,320 --> 00:04:23,839 Speaker 1: when the American people are looking for transparency into who 74 00:04:23,880 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: it is that you were threatening and or buying off 75 00:04:26,720 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 1: in order to overturn the fucking election for Donald Trump, 76 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:32,440 Speaker 1: all of a sudden, you're all mum's the word. Like, 77 00:04:32,560 --> 00:04:35,000 Speaker 1: I'm just tired. I think that I've gotten to a 78 00:04:35,040 --> 00:04:38,159 Speaker 1: point where I'm just tired. You know, if they all 79 00:04:38,200 --> 00:04:42,679 Speaker 1: get arrested, I'll be surprised. If they don't get arrested 80 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: and they're able to live out their days, I also 81 00:04:45,640 --> 00:04:48,960 Speaker 1: won't be surprised. Right, Like, there is nothing that can 82 00:04:49,040 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 1: come out these days that will say, oh, yeah, you know, 83 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,960 Speaker 1: this is America doing what it needs to be done 84 00:04:54,960 --> 00:04:58,680 Speaker 1: to hold people accountable. Is the Biden administration doing what 85 00:04:58,760 --> 00:05:01,440 Speaker 1: it needs to be done. Yeah, you know, they're passing 86 00:05:01,560 --> 00:05:04,000 Speaker 1: huge pieces of legislation that of course no one is 87 00:05:04,040 --> 00:05:06,440 Speaker 1: talking really about in the media because they're all tied 88 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:10,000 Speaker 1: up on in the Donald Trump circus. Right, And so 89 00:05:10,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: you know what will happen during mid terms now that 90 00:05:13,160 --> 00:05:16,640 Speaker 1: we know that Republicans are a rabid cult and everybody 91 00:05:16,680 --> 00:05:19,600 Speaker 1: that they're going to put in positions of power believes 92 00:05:19,800 --> 00:05:23,839 Speaker 1: in over still overturning the twenty twenty election, that believes 93 00:05:23,880 --> 00:05:27,240 Speaker 1: in election fraud, that you know, doesn't believe that people 94 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,520 Speaker 1: should have the right to vote, believes that sixteen year 95 00:05:29,560 --> 00:05:32,520 Speaker 1: olds and ten year old rape victims should become mothers 96 00:05:32,640 --> 00:05:36,960 Speaker 1: enforced into parenthood, That believe that former veterans should be 97 00:05:37,000 --> 00:05:41,159 Speaker 1: teaching children. They have no certification, no degree in teaching whatsoever. 98 00:05:41,200 --> 00:05:43,479 Speaker 1: But you know what they do have a gun and 99 00:05:43,600 --> 00:05:47,080 Speaker 1: quote unquote patriotism. So I guess that'll work in those 100 00:05:47,160 --> 00:05:50,760 Speaker 1: red states. Not to mention what our economy and our 101 00:05:50,839 --> 00:05:53,400 Speaker 1: job force will look like in maybe five to ten 102 00:05:53,480 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: years when these kids are entering into this place knowing 103 00:05:56,680 --> 00:05:59,080 Speaker 1: very little, right because we don't give a fuck about 104 00:05:59,160 --> 00:06:02,400 Speaker 1: education in this country. So you know, I take everything 105 00:06:02,440 --> 00:06:04,960 Speaker 1: these days with a grain of salt, and it's why 106 00:06:05,839 --> 00:06:09,279 Speaker 1: I think that it's important to have mindfulness practices. I 107 00:06:09,320 --> 00:06:12,720 Speaker 1: think that it's important to dive into your friendships and 108 00:06:12,839 --> 00:06:16,479 Speaker 1: your loved ones and your own community, because what is 109 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:21,920 Speaker 1: happening outside is just more of the same bullshit white 110 00:06:22,040 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: sis men doing whatever it is that they want, no 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:29,680 Speaker 1: one holding them accountable. Everyone you know, screaming for a 112 00:06:29,680 --> 00:06:33,600 Speaker 1: little bit just to give the appearance right that we're 113 00:06:33,640 --> 00:06:36,120 Speaker 1: going to do something and make sure that everyone is 114 00:06:36,160 --> 00:06:38,520 Speaker 1: held to the same laws and standards, and then we 115 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,479 Speaker 1: actually do nothing when all of the fanfare and the 116 00:06:41,560 --> 00:06:45,880 Speaker 1: screeches go away. That's pretty much where I am. So 117 00:06:46,080 --> 00:06:49,880 Speaker 1: coming up next my conversation with Celeste the Therapist, to 118 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:53,479 Speaker 1: unpack all the ways that we can stay sane and 119 00:06:53,560 --> 00:06:58,040 Speaker 1: emotionally well right in a place of thriving and not 120 00:06:58,120 --> 00:07:09,720 Speaker 1: just surviving these quote unquote unprecedented times. 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I am going to Butcher 144 00:08:46,360 --> 00:08:52,240 Speaker 1: Butcher your your your last name Vicier, who is the 145 00:08:52,360 --> 00:08:57,520 Speaker 1: host of Select the Therapist, a podcast that dives into 146 00:08:57,720 --> 00:09:01,560 Speaker 1: mental health emotional well being. So let's thank you so 147 00:09:01,640 --> 00:09:05,520 Speaker 1: much for taking the time to join us. I want 148 00:09:05,520 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 1: to jump in because I am a person who believes 149 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,760 Speaker 1: wholeheartedly in mental health and emotional well being. I think 150 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: that it is the cornerstone of everything that we are 151 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: able to do. So I want to ask you how 152 00:09:18,760 --> 00:09:24,040 Speaker 1: did you get started in therapy and then what prompted 153 00:09:24,080 --> 00:09:27,560 Speaker 1: you to start a podcast? Thank you for having me. 154 00:09:27,600 --> 00:09:32,240 Speaker 1: I'm just as excited as you are. I started as 155 00:09:32,240 --> 00:09:35,920 Speaker 1: a therapist mainly because I was working at a homeless 156 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:39,200 Speaker 1: shelter when I was younger, and people will always say 157 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: thank you, and I was like, why are they thank you? 158 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:44,719 Speaker 1: MA said thank you for listening. I grew up in 159 00:09:45,400 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 1: church and was always told to pray about things, and 160 00:09:49,920 --> 00:09:51,959 Speaker 1: so I went into the phild of psychology and then 161 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:54,560 Speaker 1: I learned about all the different modalities than I went 162 00:09:54,600 --> 00:09:58,079 Speaker 1: to therapy myself so then I set out, I want 163 00:09:58,200 --> 00:10:02,800 Speaker 1: people to learn about the different modalities of healing. So 164 00:10:02,840 --> 00:10:05,120 Speaker 1: I started to go on like YouTube and periscope, and 165 00:10:05,200 --> 00:10:09,120 Speaker 1: periscope was around and answer questions around mental health. And 166 00:10:09,160 --> 00:10:11,200 Speaker 1: then I and people would say, oh, you're a therapist, 167 00:10:11,200 --> 00:10:13,000 Speaker 1: it's easy for you, and I say, I'm human just 168 00:10:13,120 --> 00:10:14,840 Speaker 1: like you. I have to do the same things I 169 00:10:14,880 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: talk about. And I said, this was in twenty eighteen. 170 00:10:18,400 --> 00:10:22,280 Speaker 1: I said, well, let me get other people on who 171 00:10:22,360 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: are doing things to empower people, so that they can 172 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,719 Speaker 1: see it's not just because I'm a therapist that I'm 173 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,240 Speaker 1: able to deliver what I talk about or do the 174 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,480 Speaker 1: things that I do. And so that's the reason why 175 00:10:34,559 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: I kind of went into this direction of like talking 176 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:41,080 Speaker 1: to people on my platform and just talking on social 177 00:10:41,120 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: media around mental health. You know, do you think you 178 00:10:46,000 --> 00:10:49,840 Speaker 1: know over the past couple of decades that mental health 179 00:10:50,440 --> 00:10:55,599 Speaker 1: has become more stream mainstream, and I mean that conversations 180 00:10:55,840 --> 00:11:00,839 Speaker 1: about mental health have become more mainstream. And if you agree, 181 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:05,400 Speaker 1: why do you think there's been such a ship? Yeah. 182 00:11:05,440 --> 00:11:10,040 Speaker 1: When I first first started coming on social media and 183 00:11:11,000 --> 00:11:14,440 Speaker 1: probably about twenty twelve thirteen, you know, I had people 184 00:11:14,480 --> 00:11:16,600 Speaker 1: saying like why are you talking about that stuff? Or 185 00:11:17,600 --> 00:11:21,520 Speaker 1: it wasn't it wasn't well received. But because I stay 186 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,600 Speaker 1: focused on my goal is the only reason why I've 187 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,400 Speaker 1: stayed consistent, Not because people were supporting the idea around 188 00:11:27,400 --> 00:11:30,240 Speaker 1: mental health, but because I knew this is what we 189 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:35,080 Speaker 1: need it. Lately, things have become more mainstream because people 190 00:11:35,120 --> 00:11:38,840 Speaker 1: are struggling one and and part of it is because 191 00:11:38,880 --> 00:11:41,560 Speaker 1: we're in America and people are realizing they can make 192 00:11:41,600 --> 00:11:44,920 Speaker 1: money off of people struggle, right, whether it's weight loss 193 00:11:45,040 --> 00:11:49,000 Speaker 1: or or whatever, right, and so like they're realizing mental 194 00:11:49,040 --> 00:11:51,480 Speaker 1: health is a big thing. So now you have all 195 00:11:51,520 --> 00:11:56,160 Speaker 1: of these things being pushed, these platforms. And I'm not 196 00:11:56,240 --> 00:11:59,640 Speaker 1: knocking platforms or anything, but I think that some of it, 197 00:12:00,040 --> 00:12:03,240 Speaker 1: fortunately is around making the goal is to make money 198 00:12:03,240 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 1: and not to help people heal. But I do think 199 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:10,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot more mainstream, you know, because I think that, 200 00:12:10,360 --> 00:12:15,680 Speaker 1: like you know, the general medical community is you know, 201 00:12:15,760 --> 00:12:18,200 Speaker 1: it's kind of like insurance. The money is not in 202 00:12:18,240 --> 00:12:21,680 Speaker 1: the cure. The money is in the taking, is in 203 00:12:21,880 --> 00:12:26,640 Speaker 1: the keeping of people, you know, making people just well enough. Right, 204 00:12:26,720 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: it is not about wellness. It is about making sure 205 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: that people are well enough so that you can continue working. 206 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:35,640 Speaker 1: That's I mean that like, that's that to me is 207 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:38,600 Speaker 1: in all honesty, That's what the goal is. And the 208 00:12:38,640 --> 00:12:44,920 Speaker 1: freedom I think that mental health, practicing and emotional well being, 209 00:12:44,960 --> 00:12:49,720 Speaker 1: whether it is therapy, meditation, medication, and conjunction with all 210 00:12:49,760 --> 00:12:54,920 Speaker 1: of those things, UM is about not is about freedom, right, 211 00:12:55,040 --> 00:12:57,640 Speaker 1: the freedom like what what does it mean to live 212 00:12:58,640 --> 00:13:02,160 Speaker 1: and exist and be well? Uh? And we're not We're 213 00:13:02,200 --> 00:13:05,160 Speaker 1: not taught those things. And I believe that we're not 214 00:13:05,240 --> 00:13:09,360 Speaker 1: taught it for a reason. UM. And so you know 215 00:13:09,440 --> 00:13:14,360 Speaker 1: when you look around now select and you see you know, 216 00:13:14,600 --> 00:13:16,600 Speaker 1: there are a ton of apps, there are a ton 217 00:13:16,679 --> 00:13:21,160 Speaker 1: of platforms. What do you think that people should steer 218 00:13:21,320 --> 00:13:24,480 Speaker 1: towards right so as not to get caught up in 219 00:13:24,640 --> 00:13:28,200 Speaker 1: the in the grind of capitalism and people trying, like 220 00:13:28,280 --> 00:13:30,880 Speaker 1: you said, to profit off of your pain. What what 221 00:13:30,960 --> 00:13:35,240 Speaker 1: are some of the markers of of UM assistance right 222 00:13:35,320 --> 00:13:38,000 Speaker 1: in terms of apps and what have you that people 223 00:13:38,040 --> 00:13:40,880 Speaker 1: should look for. Yes, I love that question because I 224 00:13:40,920 --> 00:13:45,400 Speaker 1: always tell people, Uh, if you know the things I 225 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:47,800 Speaker 1: talk about a lot, especially during the pandemic. I talk 226 00:13:47,840 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: about our sleep routine, UM, moving our bodies and like 227 00:13:51,760 --> 00:13:54,640 Speaker 1: the food we put in our bodies, like you work 228 00:13:54,679 --> 00:13:57,160 Speaker 1: on controlling that because it was with a pandemic, we 229 00:13:57,200 --> 00:14:00,199 Speaker 1: didn't know what was going on. And I said, if 230 00:14:00,000 --> 00:14:04,600 Speaker 1: if they had commercials around this stuff, the little things 231 00:14:04,600 --> 00:14:07,960 Speaker 1: that we can do, regardless of socioeconomic status, nobody's going 232 00:14:08,040 --> 00:14:09,720 Speaker 1: to get paid from it. That's why you don't see 233 00:14:09,760 --> 00:14:12,720 Speaker 1: commercials that talk about, oh, are you depressed? Have you 234 00:14:12,760 --> 00:14:15,640 Speaker 1: walked today? You see are you depressed? Take this medication? 235 00:14:16,040 --> 00:14:19,080 Speaker 1: And it's not about me knocking medication, but it's about 236 00:14:19,160 --> 00:14:23,560 Speaker 1: the trajectory and the way that America creates a system 237 00:14:23,640 --> 00:14:25,600 Speaker 1: that makes you believe that in order for you to 238 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,640 Speaker 1: be well, you have to purchase something. And anytime I 239 00:14:28,720 --> 00:14:32,400 Speaker 1: talk about whether I'm talking to my clients or especially 240 00:14:32,440 --> 00:14:35,920 Speaker 1: on social media, the tools that I deliver for people 241 00:14:35,960 --> 00:14:38,280 Speaker 1: to think about doing are things that are right at 242 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: their fingertips. A talk about like grabbing a notebook and 243 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:45,520 Speaker 1: writing down how you're feeling or listening to something. And 244 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,800 Speaker 1: so I would encourage people, if they are seeing things 245 00:14:49,800 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: that they don't have access to, to not feel defeated. 246 00:14:53,120 --> 00:14:55,880 Speaker 1: Look at what they do have and look at what 247 00:14:56,120 --> 00:14:59,240 Speaker 1: is available to them. And fortunately, a lot of times 248 00:14:59,240 --> 00:15:02,600 Speaker 1: our mind isn't really solution focused in that way, because 249 00:15:02,840 --> 00:15:05,400 Speaker 1: whether we're talking about mental health or the next iPhone, 250 00:15:05,760 --> 00:15:09,360 Speaker 1: there's this system that we allow ourselves to be attached 251 00:15:09,400 --> 00:15:12,440 Speaker 1: to that makes us believe that we need more and more, 252 00:15:12,560 --> 00:15:14,360 Speaker 1: or we need this in order to be okay, when 253 00:15:14,360 --> 00:15:17,680 Speaker 1: that's just not the case. You know. I will tell 254 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:24,120 Speaker 1: you that I entered into therapy. It must be five 255 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:27,880 Speaker 1: years ago, maybe it's five or six years ago, and 256 00:15:27,920 --> 00:15:34,320 Speaker 1: I had been in with my ex wife in couples therapy, 257 00:15:34,400 --> 00:15:37,840 Speaker 1: which had been my first real foray into therapy, and 258 00:15:37,880 --> 00:15:40,480 Speaker 1: then I decided that I really wanted to have you know, 259 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,000 Speaker 1: therapy one on one. And I will tell you that 260 00:15:44,360 --> 00:15:46,840 Speaker 1: for me and I talk about it all the time, 261 00:15:47,000 --> 00:15:51,520 Speaker 1: it has been one of the most empowering and I 262 00:15:51,760 --> 00:15:57,200 Speaker 1: opening relationships that I've had to deepen the relationship that 263 00:15:57,240 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 1: I have with myself. Yeah, and to really understand my 264 00:16:02,120 --> 00:16:05,400 Speaker 1: patterns right the good as well as those that I 265 00:16:05,400 --> 00:16:09,840 Speaker 1: would like to shift, and you know, and recognizing that 266 00:16:10,360 --> 00:16:15,360 Speaker 1: you know that unless we honestly make the decisions to 267 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:19,800 Speaker 1: truly heal, what hurts right that all we are are 268 00:16:19,920 --> 00:16:24,520 Speaker 1: walking around as open wounds, meeting other open wounds, and 269 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:30,160 Speaker 1: I and and and and not really being in relationship 270 00:16:30,240 --> 00:16:33,120 Speaker 1: in a way that allows us to be a healed 271 00:16:33,160 --> 00:16:37,440 Speaker 1: person connecting with another healed person. What do you say 272 00:16:37,560 --> 00:16:45,000 Speaker 1: to people who still have a negative connotation or understanding 273 00:16:45,320 --> 00:16:48,720 Speaker 1: of what therapy is and what it is supposed to do? 274 00:16:48,800 --> 00:16:53,920 Speaker 1: Because for me it was it's not a fix, all right, 275 00:16:54,040 --> 00:16:58,000 Speaker 1: It's more of like, I'm deciding to go on this 276 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: adventure of understanding who I am, so I understand better 277 00:17:02,480 --> 00:17:05,359 Speaker 1: how I show up. But how do you express it 278 00:17:05,400 --> 00:17:10,119 Speaker 1: to people? So when I went into private practice in 279 00:17:10,160 --> 00:17:13,960 Speaker 1: twenty fifteen, I start to understand that therapy wasn't as accessible. 280 00:17:14,359 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: I had a great experience with my first therapist. It 281 00:17:17,240 --> 00:17:20,399 Speaker 1: sounds like you did as well, But I mean, my 282 00:17:20,480 --> 00:17:23,919 Speaker 1: insurance change and my therapist doesn't take my insurance. I'm 283 00:17:23,920 --> 00:17:26,600 Speaker 1: paying two hundred dollars a session. Who can afford that 284 00:17:27,400 --> 00:17:30,320 Speaker 1: for therapy? So I first want to say, even though 285 00:17:30,359 --> 00:17:33,359 Speaker 1: I believe in therapy, I also know that with the 286 00:17:33,400 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 1: way this system works and the finances of what it 287 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:43,040 Speaker 1: costs to pay for therapy, it's not always accessible. If 288 00:17:43,080 --> 00:17:47,879 Speaker 1: you do have access, right, if your first time doesn't work, 289 00:17:48,280 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: try not to look at it as if it's a 290 00:17:51,359 --> 00:17:54,960 Speaker 1: done deal, because every therapist different every style is different, 291 00:17:55,280 --> 00:17:56,920 Speaker 1: and I tell people to look at it like you're 292 00:17:56,960 --> 00:18:00,320 Speaker 1: trying on new shoes. It's not like the medical like 293 00:18:00,359 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: the you go see a PCP. I don't mind if 294 00:18:03,359 --> 00:18:05,479 Speaker 1: I have to see a different PCP because I'm not 295 00:18:05,520 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: getting intimate details. I'm not being vulnerable. But in therapy, 296 00:18:10,520 --> 00:18:13,800 Speaker 1: building that relationship takes time, and so you want to 297 00:18:13,800 --> 00:18:17,520 Speaker 1: be comfortable with the person that you are seeing. And 298 00:18:17,600 --> 00:18:20,639 Speaker 1: like Danielle is saying, the amount of self awareness you 299 00:18:20,760 --> 00:18:24,160 Speaker 1: get because you gotta understand we're in the picture where 300 00:18:24,359 --> 00:18:26,760 Speaker 1: this is. I mean, I can't see outside of the picture. 301 00:18:27,160 --> 00:18:31,720 Speaker 1: So having if Danielle's my therapist, having her like be like, oh, actually, over, 302 00:18:31,760 --> 00:18:35,000 Speaker 1: if you turn right, you'll actually see it. And I'm like, oh, yeah, 303 00:18:35,040 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: you're right. And as much knowledge as I have the 304 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: therapist that I has have, he creates this awareness that 305 00:18:43,400 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: I'm like, oh yeah, I didn't see it from that angle. 306 00:18:45,400 --> 00:18:48,560 Speaker 1: And I'm a very self aware of person. So if 307 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:52,560 Speaker 1: you do have the ability to have a therapist, I 308 00:18:52,600 --> 00:18:55,320 Speaker 1: think it's great, And I just want to encourage people 309 00:18:55,359 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 1: not to look at it as a one size fits 310 00:18:59,000 --> 00:19:02,439 Speaker 1: all or I have a therapist and that's it. But 311 00:19:02,480 --> 00:19:04,000 Speaker 1: you got to look at the other things you're doing 312 00:19:04,040 --> 00:19:08,800 Speaker 1: outside of therapy. Yeah, I've had people say that therapy 313 00:19:09,240 --> 00:19:11,760 Speaker 1: I like your analogy of trying on shoes. People have 314 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,439 Speaker 1: said therapy is like dating, right. You know, you know, 315 00:19:14,560 --> 00:19:16,879 Speaker 1: some people are very fortunate on the first date that 316 00:19:16,920 --> 00:19:19,919 Speaker 1: they go on, they you know, they meet the person 317 00:19:20,040 --> 00:19:22,000 Speaker 1: that they're that they want to be with. There are 318 00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:24,679 Speaker 1: other people that, you know, they need to continue dating 319 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:27,280 Speaker 1: and until they find the right fit. And so that 320 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:30,919 Speaker 1: to me, UM was also a really good uh analogy, 321 00:19:30,960 --> 00:19:35,000 Speaker 1: because you don't just say oh, well, I'm done, especially 322 00:19:37,040 --> 00:19:40,200 Speaker 1: hey like I'm finished, you know, I'm I'm ana walk 323 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: around barefoot. That's not that's not what we're doing here, UM. 324 00:19:46,359 --> 00:19:49,320 Speaker 1: And so I I I love that because I think 325 00:19:49,359 --> 00:19:52,640 Speaker 1: that for a lot of people it helps um take 326 00:19:52,720 --> 00:19:56,359 Speaker 1: down the anxiety a bit of what it is that 327 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,639 Speaker 1: they think, um it is, versus how it ends up 328 00:19:59,640 --> 00:20:02,560 Speaker 1: working out. But I want to ask you this, you know, 329 00:20:03,119 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: and we talked about this a little bit at the top, 330 00:20:05,240 --> 00:20:08,560 Speaker 1: and I want to dig in deeper now, which is, 331 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:11,720 Speaker 1: you know, for the past two plus years, so lest 332 00:20:11,800 --> 00:20:15,159 Speaker 1: we have been living inside of one trauma after another. 333 00:20:16,160 --> 00:20:19,240 Speaker 1: I listened to a therapist on I think it was 334 00:20:19,280 --> 00:20:23,320 Speaker 1: a morning show that said that what we are experiencing 335 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:30,080 Speaker 1: is compacted or compounded excuse me, trauma. Where you started 336 00:20:30,080 --> 00:20:34,600 Speaker 1: out with the instability of our government. On top of that, 337 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:38,480 Speaker 1: you added in COVID, then you added in a series 338 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:43,080 Speaker 1: of you know, COVID, more instability, anger, rage. Now we 339 00:20:43,160 --> 00:20:47,880 Speaker 1: have monkey pocks, right, they are shootings on a regular basis. 340 00:20:48,040 --> 00:20:52,120 Speaker 1: Now that we're back in society, there is there's climate 341 00:20:52,200 --> 00:20:55,879 Speaker 1: change and climate disaster that is happening. You know, whether 342 00:20:56,160 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 1: you're underwater or on fire, or can't breathe because the 343 00:20:59,440 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: aerosop louted. It's one thing after another. People are I mean, 344 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:09,480 Speaker 1: we're seeing I just watched the other day this road 345 00:21:09,640 --> 00:21:14,239 Speaker 1: rage incident that was absolutely insane, right, Like it was 346 00:21:14,480 --> 00:21:19,000 Speaker 1: a turned into like almost vehicular homicide in terms of 347 00:21:19,040 --> 00:21:25,360 Speaker 1: what the reactions from the people. So everyone is on edge, right, 348 00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:31,199 Speaker 1: how do you talk to people about even trying to 349 00:21:31,240 --> 00:21:35,640 Speaker 1: put a finger on what is causing them so much 350 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:39,520 Speaker 1: angst and anxiety? Right, because it's so much. It isn't 351 00:21:39,520 --> 00:21:42,320 Speaker 1: just one thing, it's a lot of different things. And 352 00:21:42,400 --> 00:21:46,280 Speaker 1: so how are you guiding people, helping them navigate through 353 00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:52,679 Speaker 1: these times? Yeah, great question. I believe that when we 354 00:21:52,760 --> 00:21:57,040 Speaker 1: are in the moment, we can work on creating peace 355 00:21:57,080 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 1: in our lives despite what's happening around us. But in 356 00:22:00,440 --> 00:22:03,280 Speaker 1: order for that to happen, we have to uncover what's 357 00:22:03,320 --> 00:22:07,800 Speaker 1: going on. Earlier, you talked about the importance of healing 358 00:22:07,840 --> 00:22:11,600 Speaker 1: and how you're not basically like you're essentially bleeding out 359 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:15,840 Speaker 1: and surviving life when you're not working on your healing process. 360 00:22:16,800 --> 00:22:19,920 Speaker 1: And sometimes it can be like years and years of 361 00:22:19,960 --> 00:22:23,120 Speaker 1: things to unpack. So it's not like when time sit 362 00:22:23,200 --> 00:22:25,719 Speaker 1: down thing. So you got all your own trauma on 363 00:22:25,760 --> 00:22:28,760 Speaker 1: top of the society stuff that's happening that we are 364 00:22:28,800 --> 00:22:32,080 Speaker 1: impacted by that we're seeing on a regular basis. And 365 00:22:32,119 --> 00:22:36,600 Speaker 1: so when I'm working with people, I am extremely big 366 00:22:36,640 --> 00:22:40,439 Speaker 1: on what's happening right now. What happens when there's like 367 00:22:40,920 --> 00:22:43,600 Speaker 1: a trauma on top of trauma that has not been 368 00:22:43,800 --> 00:22:49,159 Speaker 1: a processed. The emotion that you experience, if it's a 369 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:52,679 Speaker 1: familiar emotion, your system feels like it's back in that time, 370 00:22:53,400 --> 00:22:56,280 Speaker 1: and you really feel like a victim. You really feel 371 00:22:56,320 --> 00:22:58,719 Speaker 1: like you have no power, You really feel like there 372 00:22:58,720 --> 00:23:01,640 Speaker 1: are no options, like you literally we feel stuck, especially 373 00:23:01,640 --> 00:23:04,960 Speaker 1: if trauma took place as a young child, and as 374 00:23:05,000 --> 00:23:08,040 Speaker 1: a child, we didn't have options. And so when I'm 375 00:23:08,080 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: working with adults, I am big on asking them how 376 00:23:12,480 --> 00:23:15,800 Speaker 1: are they feeling and bringing up an emotion chart so 377 00:23:15,840 --> 00:23:17,560 Speaker 1: they can look at it. And then I'm feeling this 378 00:23:17,720 --> 00:23:20,520 Speaker 1: because not I am anxious, not I am sad, I 379 00:23:20,560 --> 00:23:24,760 Speaker 1: feel sad. I feel anxious because there's something powerful about 380 00:23:24,800 --> 00:23:28,359 Speaker 1: being able to name what you are feeling and also 381 00:23:29,520 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: talk about why it's happening, because then your mind can 382 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:34,639 Speaker 1: be like, oh, okay, we're not ten, it's not this 383 00:23:34,760 --> 00:23:38,600 Speaker 1: traumatic thing anymore because that emotion is so familiar to us. 384 00:23:39,280 --> 00:23:42,280 Speaker 1: And so the more we begin to unpack and like 385 00:23:42,359 --> 00:23:45,640 Speaker 1: get into the nitty gritty, like I feel anxious because 386 00:23:45,760 --> 00:23:48,440 Speaker 1: like I don't have a job, I don't know where 387 00:23:48,480 --> 00:23:51,800 Speaker 1: my next meal is coming from. It doesn't change the 388 00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:54,960 Speaker 1: fact that you don't have your next meal. But then 389 00:23:55,000 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 1: I can try to get into a solution mode to 390 00:23:57,000 --> 00:23:59,040 Speaker 1: plan for it. Maybe I can look and see if 391 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:01,640 Speaker 1: there's any pantries, maybe I can borrow it. But it's 392 00:24:01,640 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: hard to get into solution focus mode when you're just 393 00:24:03,800 --> 00:24:06,760 Speaker 1: like I'm anxious, and then that's it. So your system 394 00:24:06,800 --> 00:24:08,840 Speaker 1: and your mind is like Okay, I guess we're anxious 395 00:24:08,840 --> 00:24:11,440 Speaker 1: to less. That's what we're doing. Our mind is believing 396 00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 1: what we tell what would tell it what we tell it, 397 00:24:14,200 --> 00:24:17,399 Speaker 1: whether we're in tune with our thoughts or not. And 398 00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: so for me and what I talk to people about 399 00:24:20,040 --> 00:24:23,160 Speaker 1: is being intentional about your day to day. So I'm 400 00:24:23,160 --> 00:24:26,560 Speaker 1: big on paying attention to what I expose myself to visually, 401 00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:30,040 Speaker 1: like what I listen to. I'm mindful of starting my 402 00:24:30,160 --> 00:24:33,160 Speaker 1: day with me, even though like I have a lot 403 00:24:33,200 --> 00:24:36,720 Speaker 1: of privilege and where I'm at in society now, but 404 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:40,480 Speaker 1: I still have to be mindful on what I entertained 405 00:24:40,520 --> 00:24:43,920 Speaker 1: because my mind is listening. So unfortunately, there's all these 406 00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,480 Speaker 1: thoughts and things that we're seeing and we don't even 407 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:49,680 Speaker 1: recognize that is what is controlling how we are feeling, 408 00:24:50,359 --> 00:24:52,679 Speaker 1: and that's keeping us feeling like we're in a stuck 409 00:24:52,680 --> 00:24:56,399 Speaker 1: place when we're not always stuck. We can create power, 410 00:24:56,960 --> 00:24:59,360 Speaker 1: but we have to be able to tap into that. 411 00:25:02,200 --> 00:25:04,480 Speaker 1: I love that, and I and I love your idea 412 00:25:04,720 --> 00:25:08,760 Speaker 1: of starting your day with me because I do the 413 00:25:08,800 --> 00:25:12,760 Speaker 1: same thing. My phone goes on do not disturb, and 414 00:25:13,080 --> 00:25:16,159 Speaker 1: until I've had the opportunity to meditate, it does not 415 00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:19,960 Speaker 1: come off of do not Disturb. And I too, I 416 00:25:20,119 --> 00:25:22,480 Speaker 1: too am very fortunate in the way that I have 417 00:25:22,480 --> 00:25:26,000 Speaker 1: been able to structure my life and my days um 418 00:25:26,000 --> 00:25:29,760 Speaker 1: where I'm able to you know, again, create space for 419 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,600 Speaker 1: myself in the mornings to be able to acclimate to 420 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: my day, to check in with myself, and then I'm 421 00:25:37,960 --> 00:25:41,440 Speaker 1: able to um enter into the day. And I actually 422 00:25:41,480 --> 00:25:44,480 Speaker 1: I feel the difference if I if I start the 423 00:25:44,560 --> 00:25:47,760 Speaker 1: day and I am not as mindful as I would 424 00:25:47,760 --> 00:25:50,360 Speaker 1: like to be, I feel it throughout the day. And 425 00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:53,719 Speaker 1: so it's just like for me, I understand, you know, 426 00:25:53,840 --> 00:25:56,640 Speaker 1: the money and the privilege that is attached to being 427 00:25:56,760 --> 00:25:59,639 Speaker 1: you know, sadly if you do not have insurance, that 428 00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,640 Speaker 1: is it hatched to being able to be in therapy, 429 00:26:02,680 --> 00:26:05,200 Speaker 1: which is why I often say there are so many 430 00:26:06,200 --> 00:26:10,600 Speaker 1: free meditation apps where if nothing else, you know, start 431 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,560 Speaker 1: your day with some form of peace, you know, start 432 00:26:13,600 --> 00:26:17,840 Speaker 1: your day with journaling, and then turn that into you know, 433 00:26:18,200 --> 00:26:22,240 Speaker 1: if it's a guided meditation or some peaceful music or something, 434 00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: but carve out that space to book end your day. 435 00:26:25,920 --> 00:26:28,600 Speaker 1: And I'm telling you, after a week, you will feel different. 436 00:26:29,359 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: Oh my god, Danielle is not lying. And even with 437 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,600 Speaker 1: my apps to have a limit on my apps. I 438 00:26:35,720 --> 00:26:38,400 Speaker 1: have at ten thirty my phone goals on do not disturb. 439 00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:40,600 Speaker 1: There are a lot of because people will say social 440 00:26:40,680 --> 00:26:43,679 Speaker 1: media is creating this, or this is creating this. It's like, actually, 441 00:26:43,760 --> 00:26:46,400 Speaker 1: when you think about your choices, you actually have choices, 442 00:26:46,440 --> 00:26:50,280 Speaker 1: but you're not exercising them. YouTube. I use this breathing circle. 443 00:26:50,640 --> 00:26:53,760 Speaker 1: There's this app. But then if the app is like 444 00:26:53,800 --> 00:26:56,639 Speaker 1: a fifty dollars or something a year, I don't tell 445 00:26:56,720 --> 00:26:58,359 Speaker 1: my clients to go get the app. I say, go 446 00:26:58,400 --> 00:27:00,600 Speaker 1: on YouTube. If you type and breathe and start, there's 447 00:27:00,600 --> 00:27:03,639 Speaker 1: a two minute thing. Some people even have the watches 448 00:27:03,800 --> 00:27:06,800 Speaker 1: that can do the same thing. And so there are 449 00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:09,160 Speaker 1: all these little things in our lives that we can 450 00:27:09,200 --> 00:27:12,399 Speaker 1: create space for. And I work with people that don't 451 00:27:12,440 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 1: have the financial means or the time, and I say, 452 00:27:15,040 --> 00:27:17,600 Speaker 1: you know what, give yourself fifteen minutes early before you 453 00:27:17,600 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 1: get the kids up or before you go to work. 454 00:27:19,640 --> 00:27:23,000 Speaker 1: Don't roll. Don't roll out of bed into work, because 455 00:27:23,040 --> 00:27:26,120 Speaker 1: all you're doing is like putting all of your energy outward. 456 00:27:26,400 --> 00:27:28,640 Speaker 1: You're not getting anything back, and you're trying to figure 457 00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,720 Speaker 1: out why you're depleted. It's like, what have you done? 458 00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,480 Speaker 1: Lately for yourself. And so a lot of times people 459 00:27:33,480 --> 00:27:35,600 Speaker 1: will say like, I can't find time, and I'm really 460 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:37,959 Speaker 1: big on changing their language to saying how do I 461 00:27:38,040 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: create time? Because a lot of these people that can't 462 00:27:40,680 --> 00:27:44,080 Speaker 1: find time are actually doing so much for other people 463 00:27:44,080 --> 00:27:46,920 Speaker 1: and don't even recognize that there's time in the day. 464 00:27:47,000 --> 00:27:50,280 Speaker 1: I say, look at your social media time spent on 465 00:27:50,400 --> 00:27:52,120 Speaker 1: the look on your phone and see how long you've 466 00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:53,840 Speaker 1: been on social media, and then tell me you can't 467 00:27:53,880 --> 00:27:56,280 Speaker 1: create time. And so a lot of times it's about 468 00:27:56,280 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: really taking accountability and using what you have starting where 469 00:28:00,920 --> 00:28:03,639 Speaker 1: you are. When I get up from my six am 470 00:28:03,720 --> 00:28:06,720 Speaker 1: gym class, I don't feel like waking up at five 471 00:28:06,800 --> 00:28:08,520 Speaker 1: to do it, but I know like in order for 472 00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:11,240 Speaker 1: me to be okay, I need to move my body. 473 00:28:11,680 --> 00:28:14,159 Speaker 1: And so a lot of times there's some sacrifices that 474 00:28:14,200 --> 00:28:17,480 Speaker 1: we have to create, but it creates for a better day. 475 00:28:18,119 --> 00:28:22,520 Speaker 1: And so that's something that's important for people to understand. Well, 476 00:28:22,560 --> 00:28:25,200 Speaker 1: I love all of that because I you know, my mother, 477 00:28:26,000 --> 00:28:30,000 Speaker 1: who is a yogi where I talk about often says 478 00:28:30,680 --> 00:28:33,359 Speaker 1: that you can't pour from an empty cup, right, So 479 00:28:33,720 --> 00:28:37,639 Speaker 1: this idea of martyrdom, this idea of you know, continual 480 00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:41,440 Speaker 1: sacrifice and somehow you know you'll you'll get it back. 481 00:28:41,480 --> 00:28:43,760 Speaker 1: On the other side, it's just like, well, what are 482 00:28:43,800 --> 00:28:46,840 Speaker 1: you doing now right for yourself? And you're right, it 483 00:28:46,880 --> 00:28:49,680 Speaker 1: isn't about like I don't have time. It's about looking 484 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:53,960 Speaker 1: at your time differently, right, And I think that mornings 485 00:28:54,040 --> 00:28:58,000 Speaker 1: for me are that time, and evenings as well are 486 00:28:58,120 --> 00:29:01,880 Speaker 1: that time to really know either think about you know, 487 00:29:01,920 --> 00:29:05,160 Speaker 1: what's transpired through the day and give myself grace and 488 00:29:05,240 --> 00:29:08,520 Speaker 1: peace and like what am I grateful for, like closing 489 00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,680 Speaker 1: my day with like, you know, just simply I am 490 00:29:11,720 --> 00:29:15,560 Speaker 1: in gratitude, uh, you know, for for the day, for 491 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,640 Speaker 1: waking up, for the conversations that I've had, X, Y 492 00:29:18,640 --> 00:29:20,760 Speaker 1: and Z. But for me, it has been and it 493 00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:24,320 Speaker 1: was COVID. It was it was honestly it was. It 494 00:29:24,400 --> 00:29:27,120 Speaker 1: was the beginning of COVID. It was quarantine. And it 495 00:29:27,120 --> 00:29:30,280 Speaker 1: has been since then, the last two plus years, that 496 00:29:30,320 --> 00:29:37,680 Speaker 1: I've been the most intentional about my you know, my emotional, mental, spiritual, 497 00:29:38,200 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 1: uh and physical well being. And I think that no 498 00:29:41,480 --> 00:29:44,320 Speaker 1: one else is going to be in charge of that 499 00:29:44,680 --> 00:29:48,040 Speaker 1: but you so you have to take charge in some way. 500 00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:51,600 Speaker 1: And I just want to make a point when Danielle said, 501 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,840 Speaker 1: since COVID, you know, we were forced to pause. And 502 00:29:55,880 --> 00:29:58,480 Speaker 1: so because some people were able to take that pause 503 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,800 Speaker 1: and you were able to like really create that space 504 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:04,520 Speaker 1: for yourself and that mindset shifting, and unfortunately some it 505 00:30:04,920 --> 00:30:08,120 Speaker 1: felt like hell of because they've never done that. So 506 00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,000 Speaker 1: I'm not saying so my point is that creating intentional 507 00:30:12,120 --> 00:30:16,280 Speaker 1: pauses is important even though life is still moving. Not 508 00:30:16,360 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: the same as quarantine. Just creating that pause, even if 509 00:30:20,320 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 1: it's for five minutes, if you're not used to pausing, 510 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:25,120 Speaker 1: just give yourself five minutes, set the time or for 511 00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:28,360 Speaker 1: five minutes and pause the little. The more you build 512 00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 1: up that space, the more your mind starts to fall 513 00:30:31,360 --> 00:30:33,000 Speaker 1: in line. Right now, a lot of people, our minds 514 00:30:33,000 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: are in survival mode and surviving life and living life 515 00:30:36,240 --> 00:30:39,880 Speaker 1: looks completely different. And in order to really get out 516 00:30:39,880 --> 00:30:42,800 Speaker 1: of that cycle of just living in survival mode, you 517 00:30:42,920 --> 00:30:45,520 Speaker 1: got to really create space to like really check in 518 00:30:45,560 --> 00:30:50,600 Speaker 1: and see what's going on with yourself. Beautiful. So last 519 00:30:50,640 --> 00:30:53,880 Speaker 1: I hope that you will take the time to join 520 00:30:54,040 --> 00:30:57,520 Speaker 1: us again. I have loved this conversation and I feel 521 00:30:57,520 --> 00:31:02,160 Speaker 1: like people need it more and more. And if this 522 00:31:02,240 --> 00:31:05,400 Speaker 1: is folks, if this is your first foray, I encourage 523 00:31:05,400 --> 00:31:10,200 Speaker 1: you to go check out Celest the Therapist podcast. So 524 00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:13,520 Speaker 1: let's tell people where they can find you. Yeah, so 525 00:31:13,560 --> 00:31:17,720 Speaker 1: you can find me on all podcasting platforms. If you 526 00:31:17,760 --> 00:31:20,120 Speaker 1: go to my website celest the Therapist dot com, there's 527 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:22,440 Speaker 1: links there. And all I do is I talk to 528 00:31:22,480 --> 00:31:25,840 Speaker 1: people that are doing things to empower other people by 529 00:31:25,880 --> 00:31:30,080 Speaker 1: sharing this story, and you will hear Danielle's story on 530 00:31:30,280 --> 00:31:34,320 Speaker 1: the podcast, which is exciting. So thank you so much, 531 00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:38,200 Speaker 1: Thank you so much. We appreciate you and hope that 532 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:45,640 Speaker 1: you will join us again soon. That is it for 533 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:49,280 Speaker 1: me today. Dear friends on Woke a f as always 534 00:31:49,280 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 1: power to the people and to all the people. Power, 535 00:31:52,360 --> 00:31:54,600 Speaker 1: get woke and stay woke as fuck.