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Untail down almost 26 00:01:23,880 --> 00:01:26,200 Speaker 1: two per cent this morning after its first quarter revenue 27 00:01:26,200 --> 00:01:29,679 Speaker 1: and forecast for the next three months miss analysts estimates. Addition, 28 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:33,319 Speaker 1: Network boasted profit that beat analysts estimates after a January 29 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:37,000 Speaker 1: price increase, and Sling TV subscriber games helped cushion a 30 00:01:37,120 --> 00:01:41,440 Speaker 1: drop in Satellite TV users. And that's a Bloomberg business flash, 31 00:01:41,520 --> 00:01:44,240 Speaker 1: Tom and Mike Karen, thank you so much. It is 32 00:01:45,120 --> 00:01:49,880 Speaker 1: on Wall Street. The following is from Bloomberg View, opinions 33 00:01:49,880 --> 00:01:53,520 Speaker 1: and commentary from Bloomberg columnists. I'm Megan mccartol, a columnists 34 00:01:53,480 --> 00:01:56,680 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg View. We all love farns table food, don't we, 35 00:01:56,840 --> 00:01:59,200 Speaker 1: or maybe we just think we love it. An exhaustive 36 00:01:59,200 --> 00:02:02,160 Speaker 1: investigation by a Tampa Bay of Times food critic reveals 37 00:02:02,200 --> 00:02:05,760 Speaker 1: just how little of the food advertised as organic, locally sourced, 38 00:02:05,800 --> 00:02:09,400 Speaker 1: non GMA affair actually fits the description. Given the ubiquity 39 00:02:09,440 --> 00:02:12,239 Speaker 1: of these anomalies, it's hard to believe there isn't considerable 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:14,800 Speaker 1: calculation there, and it's not hard to figure out why 41 00:02:15,040 --> 00:02:17,600 Speaker 1: consumers don't really want to buy firm to table food. 42 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,440 Speaker 1: What they want to buy is the moral satisfaction of it. 43 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 1: After all, if you're actually looking for farm fresh vegetables, 44 00:02:23,760 --> 00:02:26,400 Speaker 1: you probably won't be satisfied with something weeks old. On 45 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 1: the other hand, if you're just looking for moral satisfaction, well, 46 00:02:29,639 --> 00:02:32,399 Speaker 1: the nice thing about selling intangibles is there's no real 47 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:36,080 Speaker 1: difference between being told you're consuming locally grown foods and 48 00:02:36,120 --> 00:02:40,000 Speaker 1: actually doing so. Restaurants shouldn't deceive their customers. Part of 49 00:02:40,040 --> 00:02:42,560 Speaker 1: the reason they get away with it is people don't check, 50 00:02:42,680 --> 00:02:44,680 Speaker 1: and part of the reason they do it is that 51 00:02:44,720 --> 00:02:48,519 Speaker 1: most people seem unwilling to pay in money or unlimited selection, 52 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: the cost of actually eating local and those to the country. 53 00:02:51,520 --> 00:02:53,920 Speaker 1: If people really love farm to table food, they'll be 54 00:02:54,000 --> 00:02:57,079 Speaker 1: checking providance with suppliers and paying enormous premiums for their 55 00:02:57,120 --> 00:02:59,440 Speaker 1: limited menus. If they just want to love the idea 56 00:02:59,440 --> 00:03:01,800 Speaker 1: of it. Well, they'll probably keep eating just about like 57 00:03:01,880 --> 00:03:04,080 Speaker 1: they do. Now. I'm Megan mccartell from More of You. 58 00:03:04,160 --> 00:03:06,079 Speaker 1: Please go to Bloomberg View dot com or view go 59 00:03:06,240 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 1: on the Bloomberg terminal. This has been Bloomberg View and 60 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:14,600 Speaker 1: Bloomberview Commentaries give yourn hourly weekdays on Bloomberg Radio. The 61 00:03:14,680 --> 00:03:17,480 Speaker 1: President of the United States is in ri odd he 62 00:03:17,520 --> 00:03:20,560 Speaker 1: moves to London for I believe a birthday party for 63 00:03:20,560 --> 00:03:23,280 Speaker 1: the Queen, and then Mike, I'm guessing to Germany. I 64 00:03:23,320 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: don't have the itinerary in front of me. What he 65 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:30,520 Speaker 1: knows is two thousand and sixteen is not nineteen seventy three. 66 00:03:31,000 --> 00:03:34,480 Speaker 1: If you look at the chronology of American diplomacy and 67 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:39,040 Speaker 1: seventy three, it's possibly original. Outside World War Two, Mike, 68 00:03:39,360 --> 00:03:44,120 Speaker 1: stock market crash, we go to August October six the 69 00:03:44,200 --> 00:03:46,920 Speaker 1: yan Kapur War. We get to the end of the 70 00:03:47,000 --> 00:03:51,720 Speaker 1: year through historic negotiation and within that was our guest, 71 00:03:51,800 --> 00:03:56,160 Speaker 1: Robert Hormets, Ambassador now with Kissinger associates, Michael, why din't 72 00:03:56,160 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 1: you pick it up on the idea that this is 73 00:03:58,920 --> 00:04:03,680 Speaker 1: not well, this is uh many years down the road 74 00:04:05,160 --> 00:04:08,040 Speaker 1: for the first time, it seems in quite some time, 75 00:04:08,520 --> 00:04:13,480 Speaker 1: we have a president who is openly somewhat disdainful of 76 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:19,040 Speaker 1: the Saudiast. We've always and and you read Dennis Ross 77 00:04:19,040 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: Ambassador US is great new book Doomed to Succeed about 78 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,719 Speaker 1: the US Israeli relationship. The attitude of the State Department 79 00:04:24,760 --> 00:04:29,400 Speaker 1: was always they've got oil, We need them. And Obama 80 00:04:29,440 --> 00:04:31,960 Speaker 1: seems to be saying they need us as much as 81 00:04:32,440 --> 00:04:34,760 Speaker 1: we need them in this new world. You know where 82 00:04:34,800 --> 00:04:39,120 Speaker 1: they're facing off with ran Well, it's a very complicated pictures. 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:44,240 Speaker 1: You correctly point out, Uh, they still need the protection 84 00:04:44,520 --> 00:04:49,279 Speaker 1: of the American Navy, uh, for their oil facilities and 85 00:04:49,320 --> 00:04:52,080 Speaker 1: the Persian Gulf, and the American Navy still plays a 86 00:04:52,200 --> 00:04:55,479 Speaker 1: very important role there as well as in protecting the 87 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:59,920 Speaker 1: sea lanes that oil goes through to get to various 88 00:05:00,000 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: other parts of the world. So that part is true, 89 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:07,760 Speaker 1: But it's also been true over decades and decades as 90 00:05:07,880 --> 00:05:12,160 Speaker 1: the result of Saudi wealth and the willingness of Saudis 91 00:05:12,200 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 1: to provide support for friends and allies of the United States, 92 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:19,920 Speaker 1: that we call on them regularly, and probably even though 93 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:23,680 Speaker 1: their oil revenues are down considerably, probably we'll have to 94 00:05:23,720 --> 00:05:27,520 Speaker 1: call them them again. The problem is that the distrust 95 00:05:27,600 --> 00:05:32,200 Speaker 1: has increased dramatically, in part because the Saudis are skeptical 96 00:05:32,279 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: of the deal we've made with Iran, and in part 97 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,480 Speaker 1: because the United States didn't do something that it did 98 00:05:39,920 --> 00:05:44,040 Speaker 1: very very thoroughly in nineteen seventy three and then again 99 00:05:44,120 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 1: in the First Gulf War, which was consult on a 100 00:05:47,040 --> 00:05:51,360 Speaker 1: very regular and intimate basis with all the Arab governments 101 00:05:51,400 --> 00:05:54,320 Speaker 1: in the region. I remember working for Dr Kissinger when 102 00:05:54,360 --> 00:05:59,000 Speaker 1: we were doing the the negotiations between Israel and its neighbors, 103 00:05:59,080 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 1: that's so called this engagement negotiations after the seventy three war, 104 00:06:04,200 --> 00:06:06,599 Speaker 1: and there was a lot of consultation with countries in 105 00:06:06,640 --> 00:06:09,640 Speaker 1: the region. Even though they didn't have troops involved, we 106 00:06:09,720 --> 00:06:13,600 Speaker 1: knew they had a voice and discussions in the Middle East. 107 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:17,400 Speaker 1: So there was a particular amount of consultation with Saudi Arabia, 108 00:06:17,680 --> 00:06:19,960 Speaker 1: even at that time with half as Lassa who was 109 00:06:20,040 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: running Syria and many many other countries. The regency had 110 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 1: got to keep up with all these countries and maintain 111 00:06:25,800 --> 00:06:30,520 Speaker 1: their confidence. How much do we need the Saudias now 112 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: given the change in oil production, the fact that you 113 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:37,800 Speaker 1: know we are producing so much oil. Well, that's a 114 00:06:37,839 --> 00:06:40,360 Speaker 1: good question. Some people would argue, well, we don't import 115 00:06:40,360 --> 00:06:43,640 Speaker 1: as much oil, we don't depend as much on the 116 00:06:43,640 --> 00:06:46,120 Speaker 1: Saudis of the rest of the world for oil. But 117 00:06:46,279 --> 00:06:49,040 Speaker 1: I would say that that's true in the direct sense. 118 00:06:49,080 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: The fact, however, is the Saudias are the marginal producer 119 00:06:51,920 --> 00:06:54,720 Speaker 1: of oil. There is a world price for oil, so 120 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:59,680 Speaker 1: if something were to happen to disrupt Saudi production, the 121 00:06:59,720 --> 00:07:03,520 Speaker 1: price would go up in many parts of the world, 122 00:07:03,640 --> 00:07:06,880 Speaker 1: and there could be a lot of volatility. Uh. The 123 00:07:06,960 --> 00:07:10,120 Speaker 1: other part of it is that many of our allies 124 00:07:10,120 --> 00:07:12,920 Speaker 1: and friends depend very heavily on Saudi oil. They are 125 00:07:12,960 --> 00:07:16,160 Speaker 1: the marginal producer of all around the world. And if 126 00:07:16,200 --> 00:07:20,000 Speaker 1: there were to be a security disruption, some disruption of 127 00:07:20,080 --> 00:07:24,240 Speaker 1: the Gulf, or terrorism in Saudi Arabia, or internal problems 128 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,480 Speaker 1: in Saudi Arabia, and that caused a disruption of the 129 00:07:27,480 --> 00:07:30,480 Speaker 1: supply of oil to other countries, that could have a 130 00:07:30,480 --> 00:07:33,560 Speaker 1: strategic effect on our major allies. Ambassador, I kid you 131 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: that you were at Sais Paco in nift I guess 132 00:07:36,480 --> 00:07:38,760 Speaker 1: you weren't, but I'm going to promist it by year 133 00:07:38,960 --> 00:07:42,600 Speaker 1: by year, I'm gonna put out on on Twitter right 134 00:07:42,640 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: now the actual map T. E. Lawrence had that he 135 00:07:46,160 --> 00:07:50,520 Speaker 1: presented to the War Committee, I would respectfully suggests there 136 00:07:50,680 --> 00:07:55,000 Speaker 1: nothing changed within our new world order. What's the map 137 00:07:55,160 --> 00:08:00,000 Speaker 1: going to look like for the next president? Really interesting question. 138 00:08:00,200 --> 00:08:04,360 Speaker 1: I mean, there's a great uh book by about Gertrude Bell, 139 00:08:05,000 --> 00:08:07,760 Speaker 1: who were also working on this, really the first woman 140 00:08:07,880 --> 00:08:11,000 Speaker 1: diplomat to play a major role in the region, and 141 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:15,080 Speaker 1: it describes how these borders were constructed, and it had 142 00:08:15,120 --> 00:08:18,560 Speaker 1: to do with tribal relationships and giving certain territory to 143 00:08:18,640 --> 00:08:23,040 Speaker 1: certain members of the royal family in Saudi Arabia, Um 144 00:08:23,120 --> 00:08:26,320 Speaker 1: and other parts of the region. The problem now is 145 00:08:26,360 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 1: that those borders then and those borders now really didn't 146 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 1: necessarily reflect the interests or the views of a lot 147 00:08:35,240 --> 00:08:37,600 Speaker 1: of the people in the region. Maybe the leaders, but 148 00:08:37,720 --> 00:08:41,319 Speaker 1: not necessarily the people. And now the border between Iraq 149 00:08:41,400 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: and Syria, while it is there physically, is really not 150 00:08:45,480 --> 00:08:48,480 Speaker 1: necessarily there from the point of view of the people 151 00:08:48,520 --> 00:08:52,359 Speaker 1: in the region, and and Isis has broken it down there. 152 00:08:52,400 --> 00:08:56,840 Speaker 1: Even within Iran, there are various power groups are between 153 00:08:56,880 --> 00:09:00,080 Speaker 1: Iran and Saudi Arabia. That's the arch issue. Other in 154 00:09:00,120 --> 00:09:03,760 Speaker 1: the Arabian seat, Saudi Arabian and Iran. I don't think 155 00:09:03,880 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 1: the issue is a border issue. I think it's much 156 00:09:06,600 --> 00:09:11,760 Speaker 1: more UH an issue of the national competition and various 157 00:09:11,800 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 1: religious groups, second groups dealing. We're fighting with one another 158 00:09:16,559 --> 00:09:19,200 Speaker 1: at various points. But that border is not so much 159 00:09:19,240 --> 00:09:23,040 Speaker 1: in contention, but the sound the border between Iraq and 160 00:09:23,360 --> 00:09:26,880 Speaker 1: Uh and Syria certainly is there. And then you've got 161 00:09:26,920 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 1: a lot of irridentist movements. You've got the Kurds who 162 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,720 Speaker 1: would like to have a Kurdish belt that goes across 163 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,600 Speaker 1: northern Syria and northern Iraq. The churchs are concerned about 164 00:09:37,600 --> 00:09:40,000 Speaker 1: that because they think that would strengthen the hands of 165 00:09:40,040 --> 00:09:42,280 Speaker 1: the Turks, of the of the Kurds in Turkey. So 166 00:09:42,320 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 1: you've got a lot of these ethnic groups that have 167 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: very powerful transporter roles. We'll talk about this more, but 168 00:09:50,440 --> 00:09:52,160 Speaker 1: briefly because we're gonna run a time and then we'll 169 00:09:52,200 --> 00:09:54,920 Speaker 1: come back and and fish the thought. But I'm wondering 170 00:09:54,960 --> 00:10:00,120 Speaker 1: about where Saudi Arabia goes from here. They have the 171 00:10:00,160 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: external competition you're talking about, but also they seem to 172 00:10:04,600 --> 00:10:08,959 Speaker 1: be having trouble within the kingdom UH. You know the 173 00:10:09,320 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 1: royal family, Yes, this is they. They they there. There 174 00:10:12,880 --> 00:10:14,880 Speaker 1: are lots of reports. It's hard to know what's going 175 00:10:15,000 --> 00:10:17,640 Speaker 1: I've been to Saudi many times. You can talk about 176 00:10:17,679 --> 00:10:20,160 Speaker 1: many things in Saudi Arabia. Saudi has been talking about 177 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:23,199 Speaker 1: the politics of the royal family. No one really wants 178 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:25,120 Speaker 1: to speak of, but it has gotten, as you correctly 179 00:10:25,120 --> 00:10:27,680 Speaker 1: point out, into the public of late I think the 180 00:10:27,720 --> 00:10:31,360 Speaker 1: House of Salad understands that for the stability of the 181 00:10:31,360 --> 00:10:33,640 Speaker 1: House of Salad and the House of and the Kingdom 182 00:10:33,720 --> 00:10:38,480 Speaker 1: of Saudi Arabia, they have to maintain unity within that family. 183 00:10:38,960 --> 00:10:42,120 Speaker 1: And that unity has depended very heavily on reverence for 184 00:10:42,320 --> 00:10:44,840 Speaker 1: in respect for the king that is going to be 185 00:10:44,880 --> 00:10:47,559 Speaker 1: critical in the future. Robert hormece with us. We will 186 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:50,719 Speaker 1: continue on this discussion again. The President and read will 187 00:10:50,720 --> 00:10:54,520 Speaker 1: talk much more here about the more narrow discussions of 188 00:10:54,800 --> 00:10:57,880 Speaker 1: the moment. Mr Hormance is with Kissinger associates and of 189 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: course out of the Fletcher School UFS at University uh 190 00:11:02,280 --> 00:11:05,000 Speaker 1: futures up to down features up for We have another 191 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: hour of Bloomberg surveillance and we do that with Robert Harmetts. 192 00:11:09,320 --> 00:11:11,240 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Surveillance. Good morning,