1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:02,600 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the Best of the Herd podcast. 2 00:00:02,759 --> 00:00:05,120 Speaker 1: Be sure to catch us live every weekday on Fox 3 00:00:05,120 --> 00:00:08,319 Speaker 1: Sports Radio in noon to three Eastern nine am to 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:11,440 Speaker 1: noon Pacific. Find your local station for the Herd at 5 00:00:11,440 --> 00:00:14,680 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio dot com, or stream us live every 6 00:00:14,760 --> 00:00:17,840 Speaker 1: day on the iHeartRadio app by searching Fox Sports Radio 7 00:00:17,960 --> 00:00:18,720 Speaker 1: or FSR. 8 00:00:19,920 --> 00:00:22,640 Speaker 2: This is the Best of the Herd with Colin Cowver 9 00:00:23,040 --> 00:00:26,000 Speaker 2: on Fox Sports Radio. 10 00:00:28,200 --> 00:00:32,559 Speaker 1: Here we go at Tower two on a Wednesday. Albert 11 00:00:32,560 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 1: Breyer in a couple of minutes, So Brooks Koepka, my 12 00:00:38,520 --> 00:00:43,040 Speaker 1: guy going back to the tour, not going to be 13 00:00:43,040 --> 00:00:46,440 Speaker 1: eligible for some of the money, but he can still 14 00:00:46,440 --> 00:00:48,280 Speaker 1: take all of it. The Masters, the US Open, in 15 00:00:48,320 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 1: the British Open. So I didn't have a problem when 16 00:00:51,600 --> 00:00:53,639 Speaker 1: he left for Live. I don't have a problem him 17 00:00:53,640 --> 00:00:56,000 Speaker 1: coming back. I like watching him play. The more he's 18 00:00:56,000 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: on my TV, the happier I am. So the way 19 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,000 Speaker 1: I feel about Bryce and to Shamba and Rory Mack 20 00:01:00,080 --> 00:01:02,600 Speaker 1: Kilroy Tiger Woods in his prime, he're on my TV, 21 00:01:02,680 --> 00:01:05,280 Speaker 1: I'm happy. I don't care who you play for. I mean, 22 00:01:05,280 --> 00:01:08,200 Speaker 1: the PGA doesn't control my three favorite tournaments. My three 23 00:01:08,200 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: favorite tournaments, Masters, US Open, British Open FedEx. Cup's fine, 24 00:01:14,360 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 1: but I'm glad he's back, and I'm okay that he left. 25 00:01:18,240 --> 00:01:22,560 Speaker 1: All right, I do this, this will be I always 26 00:01:22,600 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: have about five or six teams in my Super Bowl bubble. 27 00:01:25,680 --> 00:01:28,640 Speaker 1: A lot of those teams like Kansas City or in 28 00:01:28,680 --> 00:01:31,160 Speaker 1: New England in their dynasty. We don't have that this year. 29 00:01:31,200 --> 00:01:33,000 Speaker 1: In fact, maybe the best team's Buffalo. We don't know, 30 00:01:33,760 --> 00:01:36,919 Speaker 1: and are they a super Bowl team? So eight teams left. 31 00:01:37,880 --> 00:01:40,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you how many teams I think are 32 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:44,720 Speaker 1: capable of winning the Super Bowl. That's a lot of 33 00:01:44,760 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: wins from today. So we'll start with the Rams. Number 34 00:01:48,760 --> 00:01:52,520 Speaker 1: one scoring offense, number one total offense in the NFL, 35 00:01:52,800 --> 00:01:58,640 Speaker 1: and they are healthy. Okay, they're healthy, and that offense 36 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 1: is lethal. Matt Stafford's always been good in the playoffs 37 00:02:02,280 --> 00:02:05,040 Speaker 1: six and two with the Rams one oh seven passer rating. 38 00:02:05,960 --> 00:02:08,840 Speaker 1: I don't love their special teams. But one of the 39 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:12,800 Speaker 1: teams that matched up very well against them, Philadelphia with 40 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:17,200 Speaker 1: AJ Brown a problem for their corners. They're out by 41 00:02:17,240 --> 00:02:20,880 Speaker 1: the way, Carolina match up well with them twice. Two 42 00:02:21,400 --> 00:02:24,760 Speaker 1: big boundary of receivers. The Rams are a Super Bowl 43 00:02:24,800 --> 00:02:28,639 Speaker 1: Bubble team. The second one I would put in New England. 44 00:02:29,120 --> 00:02:29,480 Speaker 3: Folks. 45 00:02:29,520 --> 00:02:33,040 Speaker 1: They've won fourteen in the last fifteen games, top five coach. 46 00:02:33,520 --> 00:02:38,240 Speaker 1: They also lead the NFL in yards per play, including 47 00:02:38,240 --> 00:02:41,320 Speaker 1: the playoffs. That's what the wise guys like. And I 48 00:02:41,360 --> 00:02:43,880 Speaker 1: said this yesterday. Here's where they remind me of the 49 00:02:43,880 --> 00:02:50,920 Speaker 1: old Patriots. A mature, tall, accurate quarterback, a defense, tough 50 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:55,480 Speaker 1: guy at coach, Josh McDaniel, coordinator, Robert Kraft, owner and 51 00:02:55,520 --> 00:03:00,560 Speaker 1: those Patriot teams didn't have any major hole. They weren't 52 00:03:00,600 --> 00:03:02,960 Speaker 1: the best at a lot of things other than quarterback, 53 00:03:03,720 --> 00:03:05,320 Speaker 1: but they didn't have a lot of holes. I don't 54 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:08,119 Speaker 1: know what the hole on the Patriots is. I do 55 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: think they have to continue to modify the old line, but. 56 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:13,440 Speaker 3: They don't have a lot of holes. 57 00:03:13,960 --> 00:03:16,400 Speaker 1: They may not be great at anything, are they terrible 58 00:03:16,440 --> 00:03:19,640 Speaker 1: at anything? I have New England capable of gutting in 59 00:03:19,680 --> 00:03:22,720 Speaker 1: winning a Super Bowl. The third team I think can 60 00:03:22,720 --> 00:03:25,560 Speaker 1: get in as the Seahawks again. They won eleven of twelve, 61 00:03:28,360 --> 00:03:32,120 Speaker 1: only lost two points in a turnover play game against 62 00:03:32,120 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: the Rams, number four scoring offense. You can't run the 63 00:03:35,520 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: football on them, so they force you to throw. Well, 64 00:03:39,000 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: that can be problematic if you're playing in Seattle and 65 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:45,360 Speaker 1: it's raining in January sideways. I think their coach is 66 00:03:45,400 --> 00:03:48,800 Speaker 1: the defensive version of Sean McVay. They can score early, 67 00:03:48,840 --> 00:03:52,720 Speaker 1: they can score late. Sometimes they're a little dependent on 68 00:03:52,840 --> 00:03:57,080 Speaker 1: JS Senate wide receiver. Okay, but again I don't know 69 00:03:57,120 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: where their hole is. 70 00:03:58,320 --> 00:03:58,520 Speaker 3: Well. 71 00:03:58,640 --> 00:04:01,960 Speaker 1: Darnold throws pick brock perty and Matt Stafford volks, so 72 00:04:02,080 --> 00:04:04,840 Speaker 1: did Peyton Manning. I think the Seahawks are an obvious 73 00:04:04,960 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 1: choice capable of getting to and winning the Super Bowl. 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 3: And my fourth and. 75 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,160 Speaker 1: Final team maybe. 76 00:04:13,880 --> 00:04:14,880 Speaker 3: Is the Buffalo Bills. 77 00:04:16,600 --> 00:04:20,080 Speaker 1: Best second half team in the league. Josh Allen has 78 00:04:20,120 --> 00:04:23,680 Speaker 1: twice as many wins eight as the remaining AFC quarterbacks 79 00:04:23,680 --> 00:04:27,760 Speaker 1: combine four. Their offensive personnel is very good, Deon Dawkins, 80 00:04:27,800 --> 00:04:32,719 Speaker 1: James Cook, excellent tight ends, Kincaid Dawson Knox. Offensive line 81 00:04:32,760 --> 00:04:38,400 Speaker 1: is good. Defense worries me a little, but I think 82 00:04:38,480 --> 00:04:40,400 Speaker 1: they can go and win the Super Bowl. I've changed 83 00:04:40,400 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: my mind on this impressive win of Jacksonville. How about 84 00:04:43,680 --> 00:04:49,839 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. I can't put them in worst scoring defense, 85 00:04:49,920 --> 00:04:53,240 Speaker 1: worst total defense of the remaining playoff teams. They just 86 00:04:53,480 --> 00:04:58,840 Speaker 1: give up to many big plays Niners. Now that Kittle's out, 87 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:04,719 Speaker 1: Bosa Warner out. I can't put the Niners in second 88 00:05:04,720 --> 00:05:07,960 Speaker 1: worst scoring defense. Saula's doing it with smoking mirrors. Okay, 89 00:05:08,000 --> 00:05:13,400 Speaker 1: Now my Denver Broncos, I can't held the twenty points 90 00:05:13,440 --> 00:05:16,599 Speaker 1: or fewer three straight games. I think they're the best 91 00:05:16,640 --> 00:05:20,600 Speaker 1: team potentially because they get a play at home, so 92 00:05:20,680 --> 00:05:24,039 Speaker 1: I think they're I keep your eye on Denver against Buffalo, 93 00:05:24,640 --> 00:05:27,760 Speaker 1: but they've played a very easy schedule. The Jacksonville loss 94 00:05:28,120 --> 00:05:32,160 Speaker 1: was kind of a whoe moment, and they are struggling offensively. 95 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:34,599 Speaker 1: People got a lot of film now in bow Knicks 96 00:05:35,000 --> 00:05:38,400 Speaker 1: and the Houston Texans. I have changed my mind. Oh 97 00:05:38,520 --> 00:05:41,960 Speaker 1: in six divisional round all time. Jmax said it earlier 98 00:05:42,000 --> 00:05:46,360 Speaker 1: this week. Something's not quite right with CJ. Stroud missing 99 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,000 Speaker 1: one of their best receivers. They are this is a 100 00:05:49,080 --> 00:05:52,599 Speaker 1: knock twenty fourth yards per play. I honestly, if Woody 101 00:05:52,720 --> 00:05:56,080 Speaker 1: Marks is out, I don't feel like they're viable. They're 102 00:05:56,240 --> 00:05:58,920 Speaker 1: thirtieth in the red zone. That was my knock on 103 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:04,400 Speaker 1: them Monday Night. Settled for field goals, not touchdowns, rams 104 00:06:04,640 --> 00:06:12,160 Speaker 1: Seahawks Bills Patriots in by the ways, its feet. 105 00:06:12,080 --> 00:06:14,520 Speaker 3: Not even yards. Denver. 106 00:06:15,040 --> 00:06:18,159 Speaker 1: I mean the coaching in San Francisco, the pass rush 107 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:22,039 Speaker 1: in Denver, the defense in Houston, and the explosive late 108 00:06:22,080 --> 00:06:25,360 Speaker 1: game heroics of Caleb Williams. We're not saying they can't 109 00:06:25,360 --> 00:06:29,000 Speaker 1: win another game, but I think only four of eight 110 00:06:29,080 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: can get to and win the Super Bowl. 111 00:06:30,680 --> 00:06:30,919 Speaker 4: With that. 112 00:06:31,080 --> 00:06:36,040 Speaker 1: Albert Breer is now joining US Live. You're a reporter, 113 00:06:36,200 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 1: not that you care any of those rankle any of 114 00:06:38,800 --> 00:06:40,880 Speaker 1: those you would strongly disagree with. 115 00:06:43,120 --> 00:06:46,520 Speaker 4: I mean, Houston's defense is starting to feel to me 116 00:06:47,120 --> 00:06:52,720 Speaker 4: like twenty fifteen Broncos, twenty thirteen Seahawks, two thousand and 117 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:59,280 Speaker 4: two Buccaneers, I shift, two thousand Ravens. Like just watching 118 00:06:59,320 --> 00:07:00,800 Speaker 4: them close on the ball that was the big thing, 119 00:07:00,839 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 4: because I think we all know, like how they can 120 00:07:03,880 --> 00:07:05,720 Speaker 4: cover on the backhand with the corners they have, how 121 00:07:05,760 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 4: they can get after the passer with Anderson and Hunter, 122 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:11,400 Speaker 4: and then the depth that they have on the defensive line. 123 00:07:12,120 --> 00:07:13,840 Speaker 4: You know, one thing that really stuck out to me, 124 00:07:14,160 --> 00:07:17,800 Speaker 4: Colin was watching when Aaron Rodgers checked the ball down. 125 00:07:17,600 --> 00:07:19,280 Speaker 5: And threw it over the middle on Monday night. 126 00:07:19,600 --> 00:07:21,600 Speaker 4: Yeah, and how it seemed like there were three hats 127 00:07:21,600 --> 00:07:23,720 Speaker 4: on the ball like instantly on. 128 00:07:23,640 --> 00:07:28,440 Speaker 5: Every single play. And it's just I. 129 00:07:30,200 --> 00:07:32,480 Speaker 4: Saw what they did to the Bills and Josh Allen 130 00:07:32,800 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 4: earlier in the year, and the I mean, like it 131 00:07:37,880 --> 00:07:40,440 Speaker 4: is just I mean it legitimately looks like there are 132 00:07:40,440 --> 00:07:41,600 Speaker 4: thirteen guys out there. 133 00:07:41,840 --> 00:07:42,040 Speaker 2: You know. 134 00:07:42,040 --> 00:07:44,040 Speaker 1: I said that when you see a great defense, it 135 00:07:44,120 --> 00:07:46,320 Speaker 1: is as if they're playing with another man, either in 136 00:07:46,360 --> 00:07:48,360 Speaker 1: the pass rush or in the linebacking court. 137 00:07:48,480 --> 00:07:50,200 Speaker 3: Houston feels like they got an extra. 138 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:53,160 Speaker 4: Guy out there, right, So, like my question is, and 139 00:07:53,360 --> 00:07:55,400 Speaker 4: here's what so interesting about Houston to me? Right, So 140 00:07:55,440 --> 00:07:58,320 Speaker 4: you got kJ Stroud and I think we've seen it 141 00:07:58,400 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 4: at times this year. It just hasn't been consistent, right, 142 00:08:01,600 --> 00:08:03,080 Speaker 4: like what he was as a rookie. So you saw 143 00:08:03,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 4: it against San Francisco for example. I think he threw 144 00:08:05,040 --> 00:08:06,880 Speaker 4: for three hundred and fifty yards against them. That's a 145 00:08:06,880 --> 00:08:09,080 Speaker 4: good team. Like, I know they've had their injuries, but 146 00:08:09,080 --> 00:08:14,160 Speaker 4: that's obviously a really good team. I just like, to me, 147 00:08:14,280 --> 00:08:17,840 Speaker 4: it's like, what do their first year guys do, So, 148 00:08:18,520 --> 00:08:20,920 Speaker 4: especially if Nico Collins is out this week, right, Like 149 00:08:20,960 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 4: and we'll see on the concussion protocol, but their rookie 150 00:08:23,760 --> 00:08:26,560 Speaker 4: receiver Jayden Higgins and Jalen Noel, the rookie running back, 151 00:08:26,560 --> 00:08:30,000 Speaker 4: what he Marks, their rookie left tackle Arianta ERSII, their 152 00:08:30,080 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 4: rookie offensive coordinator Nick Kayley, who knows New England inside 153 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 4: now because he came up there. 154 00:08:36,080 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 5: Like I just. 155 00:08:38,559 --> 00:08:41,720 Speaker 4: I look at the amount of young people and first 156 00:08:41,800 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 4: year people, you know, not necessarily all rookies, but these 157 00:08:44,760 --> 00:08:47,600 Speaker 4: amount of young people that are relying on on offense 158 00:08:47,840 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 4: and the quarterback's part of that equation too, And can 159 00:08:50,920 --> 00:08:55,319 Speaker 4: they give them enough where that defense can can really 160 00:08:55,360 --> 00:08:58,040 Speaker 4: turn it on? And I think you saw flashes of 161 00:08:58,080 --> 00:09:01,440 Speaker 4: it again on Monday now, like there was the deep 162 00:09:01,480 --> 00:09:04,960 Speaker 4: ball to Jalen Knowle that was right on his numbers and. 163 00:09:04,840 --> 00:09:05,840 Speaker 5: He dropped it, you know. 164 00:09:06,080 --> 00:09:08,600 Speaker 4: So they're just little things that you see with them 165 00:09:08,640 --> 00:09:12,000 Speaker 4: offensively where it's like God, they're right there and this 166 00:09:12,040 --> 00:09:14,400 Speaker 4: team could be even better next year, you know. And 167 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:18,080 Speaker 4: I just think the historic nature of the defense, we've 168 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 4: seen it before, right like so, and we've seen it 169 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:23,800 Speaker 4: in this era like we saw it with the twenty 170 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:26,439 Speaker 4: fifteen Broncos where they didn't have a lot offensively. 171 00:09:26,600 --> 00:09:28,400 Speaker 5: So I'm really. 172 00:09:28,120 --> 00:09:29,760 Speaker 4: Interested to see what happens when they come up to 173 00:09:29,800 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 4: fox spron play on Sunday. 174 00:09:31,360 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: We know the Ravens is the best job for a 175 00:09:33,440 --> 00:09:36,720 Speaker 1: lot of reasons, great owner, nice roster, a mix of 176 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:41,440 Speaker 1: young experience, Pro bowlers, Lamar Jackson. Okay, let's start with 177 00:09:41,480 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: a number two job. I'm going to argue that we 178 00:09:45,040 --> 00:09:47,160 Speaker 1: I think the Giants is the second best job. I 179 00:09:47,280 --> 00:09:51,080 Speaker 1: go in with left tackle, by the way, great offensive 180 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,319 Speaker 1: tackle draft my first pick. I can go get the 181 00:09:53,360 --> 00:09:56,200 Speaker 1: best tackle so I can solve That's like when Brady 182 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:58,800 Speaker 1: went to Tampa and they got Tristan Wurse. That was 183 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:01,520 Speaker 1: their big issue. Good Rows sure bad at right tech, 184 00:10:01,760 --> 00:10:04,600 Speaker 1: so the Giants can solve that right out of the shoot. 185 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: I think the Giants over the Steelers. Steelers don't have 186 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Steelers spend a lot of money on defense. 187 00:10:10,520 --> 00:10:11,960 Speaker 1: They have a lot of draft things. But you'll be 188 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:15,280 Speaker 1: very very young defensively next year. Now I know the 189 00:10:15,280 --> 00:10:18,320 Speaker 1: stability thing. We all know that goes without saying in Pittsburgh. 190 00:10:18,600 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: I think the Giants is a better job today to 191 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:24,920 Speaker 1: me than Pittsburgh. They got Lamar in that division, Burrows 192 00:10:24,960 --> 00:10:27,600 Speaker 1: coming back in that division next year, they could get 193 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,160 Speaker 1: an arch manning. Do you think the Giants is better 194 00:10:30,200 --> 00:10:31,760 Speaker 1: than the Steelers? Is the second best gig? 195 00:10:32,440 --> 00:10:35,560 Speaker 4: I would agree, And I think what's so interesting about 196 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:39,280 Speaker 4: this year's market, Colin is so many of the jobs 197 00:10:39,520 --> 00:10:43,439 Speaker 4: depend on your individual evaluation of the quarterback, right, because 198 00:10:43,480 --> 00:10:45,840 Speaker 4: we know how important having the right quarterback is. So 199 00:10:46,360 --> 00:10:49,160 Speaker 4: the Giants job, how attractive it is, is largely dependent 200 00:10:49,200 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 4: on what you think of Jackson Dart. Same thing with 201 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:53,760 Speaker 4: cam Ward and Tennessee, same thing with Michael Pennix in Atlanta. 202 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:56,000 Speaker 4: I mean, heck, you just hear the same thing about Vegas, 203 00:10:56,000 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 4: like what do you think of Fernando Mendoza and Dante 204 00:10:58,200 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: more Right, So I think the attractiveness of this job, 205 00:11:01,720 --> 00:11:03,480 Speaker 4: it's kind of a moving target with some of these 206 00:11:03,520 --> 00:11:07,079 Speaker 4: teams based on your own evaluation of the quarterback position. 207 00:11:07,160 --> 00:11:09,480 Speaker 4: That said, they have a lot of other things with 208 00:11:09,520 --> 00:11:12,319 Speaker 4: the Giants, like you said, franchise left tackle and Andrew Thomas, 209 00:11:12,400 --> 00:11:17,640 Speaker 4: franchise receiver in in maliite neighbors on the defensive front, 210 00:11:17,679 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 4: I mean, my goodness, Brian Burns, Abdulla Carter, Dexter Lawrence, 211 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:23,880 Speaker 4: you have a chance to be dominant up front right 212 00:11:23,880 --> 00:11:25,920 Speaker 4: out of the shoot as a first year head coach. 213 00:11:25,920 --> 00:11:28,120 Speaker 5: They've invested in their secondary, bringing in. 214 00:11:28,160 --> 00:11:31,680 Speaker 4: Paulson Adebo and Javon Holland last offseason so they have 215 00:11:32,520 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 4: pieces and this is why, like the last couple of years, 216 00:11:34,920 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: I felt like they were the team right on the edge. 217 00:11:37,080 --> 00:11:39,079 Speaker 4: So I think I would agree with you. I think 218 00:11:39,080 --> 00:11:41,960 Speaker 4: a lot of it depends on what your evaluation of 219 00:11:42,040 --> 00:11:42,679 Speaker 4: Dart is. 220 00:11:43,240 --> 00:11:46,080 Speaker 5: It's just as to just how attractive the job is. 221 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,360 Speaker 4: But if you love Dart, I think it's got everything 222 00:11:48,360 --> 00:11:51,559 Speaker 4: that you'd want, stable ownership, all of that. The Steelers, 223 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:54,120 Speaker 4: I mean, I would just say this with the Steelers, 224 00:11:54,320 --> 00:11:56,920 Speaker 4: I think it's an attractive job because it's the Steelers. 225 00:11:57,360 --> 00:12:01,480 Speaker 4: It's a it's a it's it's it's a flagship franchise, 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:04,360 Speaker 4: patient ownership. They're going to give you time to build. 227 00:12:04,400 --> 00:12:06,560 Speaker 4: But man, you got a lot of work to do 228 00:12:06,600 --> 00:12:09,200 Speaker 4: on that roster. They got eight guys and they're starting 229 00:12:09,200 --> 00:12:11,280 Speaker 4: twenty two right now that are thirty year older. 230 00:12:11,440 --> 00:12:13,120 Speaker 5: Wow, So what do you do with TJ. 231 00:12:13,200 --> 00:12:13,480 Speaker 3: Watt? 232 00:12:13,520 --> 00:12:15,319 Speaker 4: What do you do with Cam Hayward? Does he retire? 233 00:12:15,360 --> 00:12:17,760 Speaker 4: What do you do with Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers? Does 234 00:12:17,800 --> 00:12:21,199 Speaker 4: he enter out? You don't have a lot of guys 235 00:12:21,200 --> 00:12:22,760 Speaker 4: in that roster where you look and say, yeah, that 236 00:12:22,800 --> 00:12:24,760 Speaker 4: guy's going to be here three years from now. Got 237 00:12:24,760 --> 00:12:27,719 Speaker 4: a couple offensive linemen, maybe a defensive lineman or two, 238 00:12:27,720 --> 00:12:31,199 Speaker 4: and that's it. And so you've got I think what 239 00:12:31,840 --> 00:12:34,760 Speaker 4: looks like a relatively lengthy rebuild there. 240 00:12:34,840 --> 00:12:36,640 Speaker 5: That isn't the case with the Giants. 241 00:12:37,400 --> 00:12:38,760 Speaker 3: For the record, the. 242 00:12:40,320 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: Job openings are fascinating. There are nine openings. Guys put 243 00:12:45,960 --> 00:12:48,760 Speaker 1: the graphic up. I said, I think there's better candidates 244 00:12:49,120 --> 00:12:52,360 Speaker 1: than we think. I think Tomlin's going to do a reset. 245 00:12:52,679 --> 00:12:54,280 Speaker 1: I think he's going to take a year off do TV. 246 00:12:54,320 --> 00:12:56,680 Speaker 1: He's not a TV guys like Rabel he could do TV, 247 00:12:56,720 --> 00:13:01,000 Speaker 1: he's not a TV guy. I think Hard Boss Tofanski, Tomlin, McCarthy, 248 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: those are very good options. I think Sola, Flores and 249 00:13:05,520 --> 00:13:08,240 Speaker 1: dabol deserve a second chance. If I had to, I'd 250 00:13:08,280 --> 00:13:11,679 Speaker 1: hire all of them. I think Njer Kubiak and Halflee 251 00:13:11,760 --> 00:13:15,280 Speaker 1: are certainly worthy of an opportunity. I think Kingsbury is 252 00:13:15,320 --> 00:13:18,440 Speaker 1: an OC. I don't think he likes conflict. That's why 253 00:13:18,520 --> 00:13:21,720 Speaker 1: he's bailing on DC. He felt bullied by Adam Peters 254 00:13:21,720 --> 00:13:24,839 Speaker 1: I was told. I also think Mike McDaniel's brilliant. I 255 00:13:24,920 --> 00:13:27,000 Speaker 1: think he's a vice president, not a president. I'd hired 256 00:13:27,040 --> 00:13:31,080 Speaker 1: him in one second to be my coordinator anything there 257 00:13:31,280 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: when you look at this teering, Am I missing something? 258 00:13:36,320 --> 00:13:39,200 Speaker 1: Is half lee considering? Yeah, I mean you tell me 259 00:13:39,240 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: what you make of that. 260 00:13:40,640 --> 00:13:40,920 Speaker 5: Okay. 261 00:13:40,960 --> 00:13:42,360 Speaker 4: So like the first thing I would say is like, 262 00:13:42,360 --> 00:13:43,480 Speaker 4: I'm looking at your second chance. 263 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:43,720 Speaker 5: Guys. 264 00:13:43,720 --> 00:13:45,840 Speaker 4: I think Robert Sala has a chance because of his 265 00:13:45,920 --> 00:13:48,640 Speaker 4: ability to put together a staff. His ties are all 266 00:13:48,679 --> 00:13:51,679 Speaker 4: to the Shanahan tree. Could he bring Mike McDaniel, who 267 00:13:51,679 --> 00:13:53,720 Speaker 4: he's very close with, right right. 268 00:13:53,559 --> 00:13:54,680 Speaker 5: To Tennessee with him? 269 00:13:54,880 --> 00:13:57,680 Speaker 4: Or could he bring Mike Lafleur for the opportunity to 270 00:13:57,720 --> 00:13:59,599 Speaker 4: call plays if Sean mcday would let him leave the 271 00:13:59,640 --> 00:14:01,880 Speaker 4: call play, could he bring him to Tennessee with him? 272 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:04,080 Speaker 4: And you know, Robert is not only going to have 273 00:14:04,200 --> 00:14:06,440 Speaker 4: that guy, He's also going to know who the next 274 00:14:06,440 --> 00:14:09,640 Speaker 4: guy is, so he can go to an owner and say, look, 275 00:14:09,920 --> 00:14:12,640 Speaker 4: this is our Mike mc daniels, our coordinator this year, 276 00:14:12,800 --> 00:14:15,200 Speaker 4: next year. And if he leaves, I got this other 277 00:14:15,240 --> 00:14:17,360 Speaker 4: guy coming with me from San Francisco who I think 278 00:14:17,400 --> 00:14:18,840 Speaker 4: is going to be the next coordinator. 279 00:14:19,000 --> 00:14:19,200 Speaker 5: Right. 280 00:14:19,640 --> 00:14:21,640 Speaker 4: So I think Robert gives you the chance to do that. 281 00:14:21,680 --> 00:14:25,080 Speaker 4: His ability to build a staff is really really solid. 282 00:14:24,680 --> 00:14:25,960 Speaker 5: I look at the. 283 00:14:25,880 --> 00:14:28,400 Speaker 4: First time, guys, and I think what's fascinating about this 284 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:32,040 Speaker 4: year is that the best ones are on defense, right. 285 00:14:32,400 --> 00:14:35,160 Speaker 4: Jesse Mintro got requested by every single team with an 286 00:14:35,200 --> 00:14:38,080 Speaker 4: opening save for Pittsburgh. We'll see if that one comes. 287 00:14:38,320 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 4: Jeff Haffley has been a head coach before, has done 288 00:14:41,040 --> 00:14:43,720 Speaker 4: a fantastic job at green Bay, really good reaching people. 289 00:14:44,120 --> 00:14:46,760 Speaker 4: Anthony Campinelli and Jacksonville. I think things are going to 290 00:14:46,760 --> 00:14:50,480 Speaker 4: pick up on him a little bit. Matt Burke in Houston, 291 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,600 Speaker 4: we see what he's been able to build there. Izia 292 00:14:52,680 --> 00:14:55,200 Speaker 4: ro Everro, You've got all these young guys. There's almost 293 00:14:55,240 --> 00:14:58,440 Speaker 4: like this backlog of young defensive coaches because everybody's been 294 00:14:58,480 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 4: mining the offensive pipeline for so long. So I think 295 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:03,520 Speaker 4: there are a lot of good young defensive coaches there. 296 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:05,840 Speaker 4: And then on the offensive side, if you're dead set 297 00:15:05,880 --> 00:15:08,640 Speaker 4: on getting one, it's just me you're going to be 298 00:15:08,680 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 4: rolling the dice a little right Like. So, Clint Kubiak, 299 00:15:10,960 --> 00:15:12,640 Speaker 4: I think is a really good young coach. 300 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:14,200 Speaker 5: Is he ready? We'll see. 301 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:16,800 Speaker 4: He comes off a lot like his dad, right, which 302 00:15:16,800 --> 00:15:18,720 Speaker 4: is a good thing, but you have to be comfortable 303 00:15:18,760 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 4: with like kind of that level, quiet, calm personality. 304 00:15:23,120 --> 00:15:24,240 Speaker 5: Davis Webb's another one. 305 00:15:24,320 --> 00:15:26,760 Speaker 4: Davis Webb's fantastic and is going to be a head 306 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:28,560 Speaker 4: coach playing quarterback in the league. 307 00:15:28,680 --> 00:15:30,480 Speaker 5: He's thirty years old. Is he ready? 308 00:15:30,680 --> 00:15:32,920 Speaker 4: So on the offensive side, I think you'd be looking 309 00:15:32,920 --> 00:15:35,920 Speaker 4: at guys that are just dice rolls, you know, Whereas 310 00:15:35,920 --> 00:15:37,360 Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, I think you 311 00:15:37,440 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 4: got more guys who are ready. 312 00:15:39,200 --> 00:15:41,880 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers I thought, I said, I thought he should 313 00:15:41,880 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: retire or go to the Vikings. I think he made 314 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,760 Speaker 1: the most of it. I nominate him for Comeback Player 315 00:15:46,760 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: of the Year. I think the Steelers offense, I mean, 316 00:15:49,240 --> 00:15:51,080 Speaker 1: like I said this earlier, Mike Tomlin doesn't have a 317 00:15:51,120 --> 00:15:54,680 Speaker 1: coaching tree. It's a cactus like the oc sins Arians 318 00:15:54,760 --> 00:15:57,120 Speaker 1: just they don't they don't, they don't do anything. 319 00:15:57,200 --> 00:16:00,200 Speaker 5: So I never heard that one before. It is I 320 00:16:00,200 --> 00:16:01,200 Speaker 5: think coaching tactic. 321 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:06,360 Speaker 1: So he basically Aaron did the best of what you 322 00:16:06,400 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: can do with a kind of a tone deaf offensive. 323 00:16:10,080 --> 00:16:13,680 Speaker 1: I mean, last seven years the Steelers have been bottom 324 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,400 Speaker 1: ten in offensive spending. It's a tough lift, and I 325 00:16:16,400 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: think Aaron did a great job. I think Aaron steps 326 00:16:19,600 --> 00:16:23,320 Speaker 1: away and does traveling. I think he would listen and 327 00:16:23,400 --> 00:16:26,280 Speaker 1: go to Minnesota for a Viking. I think he would listen, 328 00:16:26,840 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: but my guess is, like he doesn't want. 329 00:16:29,880 --> 00:16:32,240 Speaker 3: To bounce around. What do you think his future is? 330 00:16:34,440 --> 00:16:36,600 Speaker 4: I know the people who are there with him in 331 00:16:36,640 --> 00:16:39,360 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh think that this is going to be it for him. 332 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:43,600 Speaker 4: And like so I know, like people that were operating 333 00:16:43,680 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 4: under the impression that he was going to retire after 334 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:49,440 Speaker 4: this year. Doesn't mean and I'm not saying he's told 335 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:51,800 Speaker 4: anybody that, but like they were under the impression that 336 00:16:51,840 --> 00:16:54,160 Speaker 4: this was going to be it for him, regardless of 337 00:16:54,240 --> 00:16:57,360 Speaker 4: whether Mike Tomlin comes back or not. I also think, 338 00:16:57,400 --> 00:17:00,600 Speaker 4: like just what I know about Aaron, I do think 339 00:17:00,600 --> 00:17:02,960 Speaker 4: that this year gave him some closure, you know, because 340 00:17:03,000 --> 00:17:05,160 Speaker 4: I think what he was looking for in New York 341 00:17:05,200 --> 00:17:07,159 Speaker 4: at the end, he wanted to fall in love with 342 00:17:07,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 4: football again, right, and really like so much about him 343 00:17:11,560 --> 00:17:14,320 Speaker 4: had become about everything off the field, right, and all 344 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:18,480 Speaker 4: the stuff that he does with the hyahuasca and everything else. 345 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,359 Speaker 4: And I think by the end of New York he 346 00:17:20,440 --> 00:17:22,560 Speaker 4: was kind of like, I want to just be a 347 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:26,200 Speaker 4: football player again, and because of the circumstances in that organization, 348 00:17:26,800 --> 00:17:29,520 Speaker 4: he wasn't really allowed to do that. And going to 349 00:17:29,560 --> 00:17:31,760 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh gave him that, and I think he truly did 350 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:34,400 Speaker 4: love being there this year. He loved playing for Tomlin, 351 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,600 Speaker 4: and I think he fell in love with playing football again. 352 00:17:38,119 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 4: So the question becomes, and I think most people who 353 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:43,360 Speaker 4: know him would say, well, that gave him closure. Does 354 00:17:43,359 --> 00:17:46,200 Speaker 4: it make him want to play again? Like, I can't 355 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,359 Speaker 4: answer that, but I think he's probably done. But if 356 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,480 Speaker 4: the perfect situation came along with Kevin O'Connell picks up 357 00:17:52,520 --> 00:17:55,440 Speaker 4: the phone and says, look like, you know we talked 358 00:17:55,440 --> 00:17:57,080 Speaker 4: about this last year, would you want to come and 359 00:17:57,080 --> 00:17:59,879 Speaker 4: do it now? Maybe he would jump at something like that, 360 00:18:00,040 --> 00:18:03,360 Speaker 4: but I get the feeling that this is it for him. 361 00:18:03,760 --> 00:18:05,200 Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta address Buffalo. 362 00:18:05,600 --> 00:18:07,840 Speaker 1: And this happens all the time where I see something 363 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:12,240 Speaker 1: and I can't unsee it. And Buffalo going to Jacksonville, 364 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:15,960 Speaker 1: a red hot Jaguars team with a sharp offensive coach, 365 00:18:16,680 --> 00:18:18,919 Speaker 1: and really I felt like most of that game it 366 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:23,239 Speaker 1: was Buffalo's game, and I was like, wow, I think 367 00:18:23,280 --> 00:18:25,320 Speaker 1: they're going to go to Denver and win. And I 368 00:18:25,320 --> 00:18:28,880 Speaker 1: did not feel that. I I and sometimes you know this, 369 00:18:28,880 --> 00:18:31,040 Speaker 1: this this league will give you these moments and you're like, 370 00:18:31,960 --> 00:18:35,440 Speaker 1: oh wow, Like when I'm watching Caleb Williams against the 371 00:18:35,560 --> 00:18:38,520 Speaker 1: Niners late in the year, and I mean, just it's volleyball. 372 00:18:38,600 --> 00:18:41,000 Speaker 1: It's just one great play, one fact and against SLA 373 00:18:41,040 --> 00:18:44,119 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, Caleb is he's graduated to a 374 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,560 Speaker 1: different class, whatever the class is, and then he does 375 00:18:46,600 --> 00:18:50,320 Speaker 1: it again against the Packers and half league. I mean, 376 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,040 Speaker 1: I don't know what take it from here? 377 00:18:53,080 --> 00:18:55,200 Speaker 3: What? What what do you make about with Buffalo? 378 00:18:57,359 --> 00:19:01,480 Speaker 4: I think I'm gonna steal Kirby's Smart's line. I think 379 00:19:01,520 --> 00:19:03,879 Speaker 4: Buffalo is hard to kill. Like, I think that's what 380 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:06,959 Speaker 4: they've become now, and like I and I think you 381 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:10,320 Speaker 4: can see it like that was a pressure pack situation. 382 00:19:11,760 --> 00:19:15,480 Speaker 4: I mean, like if you go to Jacksonville and lose, 383 00:19:15,520 --> 00:19:18,960 Speaker 4: and that's a really good Jacksonville team, right, a really 384 00:19:18,960 --> 00:19:23,119 Speaker 4: good Jacksonville team that kick Denver's ass, Like, I like, 385 00:19:24,200 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 4: if you lose that game, there are tons of big 386 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,960 Speaker 4: picture questions that are on the table, right, that's fair. 387 00:19:29,720 --> 00:19:30,199 Speaker 3: Yeah, So. 388 00:19:32,000 --> 00:19:36,160 Speaker 4: In that pressurized environment, look at Sean McDermott's decision making, 389 00:19:36,200 --> 00:19:38,560 Speaker 4: and I thought this was so interesting And this is 390 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:40,320 Speaker 4: the day and age when everybody's got to go for 391 00:19:40,400 --> 00:19:42,400 Speaker 4: it and am fourth down all the time and everybody's 392 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,359 Speaker 4: hearkeee jerky and panicky. Right towards the end of the 393 00:19:45,400 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 4: second half, on a fourth and four, he goes out 394 00:19:49,560 --> 00:19:51,560 Speaker 4: sends Matt Prater out there to kick a forty five 395 00:19:51,640 --> 00:19:54,119 Speaker 4: yard field goal. They get penalized, kicks it from fifty 396 00:19:54,200 --> 00:19:54,800 Speaker 4: yards anyway. 397 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:55,960 Speaker 5: End of the half. 398 00:19:56,320 --> 00:19:59,320 Speaker 4: They punt on a fourth and four from the Jacksonville 399 00:19:59,359 --> 00:20:01,160 Speaker 4: side of the fifth and then on the first drive 400 00:20:01,200 --> 00:20:05,240 Speaker 4: of the second half they again were in position to 401 00:20:05,280 --> 00:20:07,840 Speaker 4: go for it on fourth and less than five and 402 00:20:07,920 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 4: send Prayeder out there for a forty seven yard field goal. 403 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:15,119 Speaker 5: Those were little things Colin that told me Sean. 404 00:20:14,880 --> 00:20:17,480 Speaker 4: McDermott has the utmost confidence that his team is going 405 00:20:17,560 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 4: to pull this out in the end. He didn't need 406 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:23,560 Speaker 4: this field, the need to build a big lead. He 407 00:20:23,640 --> 00:20:25,680 Speaker 4: felt like if he just played the game out, his 408 00:20:25,760 --> 00:20:27,760 Speaker 4: team would be able to get to the end of 409 00:20:27,800 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 4: the game and put its. 410 00:20:29,640 --> 00:20:32,359 Speaker 5: Trump card, which is Josh Allen on the table. Right. 411 00:20:32,720 --> 00:20:35,879 Speaker 4: And so this isn't the best Bills team of the 412 00:20:35,960 --> 00:20:38,840 Speaker 4: last five years, but I think it's the hardest one 413 00:20:38,880 --> 00:20:40,920 Speaker 4: to kill, you know. And I just think that this 414 00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:43,879 Speaker 4: is the Bills team where you look at it and 415 00:20:43,960 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 4: there's just a belief in what they're doing and if 416 00:20:46,680 --> 00:20:48,040 Speaker 4: we can get to the end of the game and 417 00:20:48,080 --> 00:20:50,320 Speaker 4: put the ball in the hands of our quarterback. 418 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:51,240 Speaker 5: We are going to win the game. 419 00:20:51,840 --> 00:20:53,840 Speaker 4: And you see it over the last two months of 420 00:20:53,840 --> 00:20:56,720 Speaker 4: the season, the way they fell behind against the Bucks, 421 00:20:56,880 --> 00:21:00,880 Speaker 4: against the Steelers, against the Bengals, against the pay and 422 00:21:01,040 --> 00:21:03,520 Speaker 4: roared back in the second half of all of those games. 423 00:21:03,960 --> 00:21:07,600 Speaker 4: I just it just feels like this, and maybe it 424 00:21:07,680 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 4: sounds corny, but it does feel like there's a little 425 00:21:10,000 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 4: bit of an intangible quality with this Buffalo team that 426 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:13,480 Speaker 4: didn't exist before. 427 00:21:13,960 --> 00:21:15,520 Speaker 3: Okay, we'll do I'm gonna give you a team. 428 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,399 Speaker 1: Can you just give me a name a leading candidate 429 00:21:19,480 --> 00:21:21,360 Speaker 1: in a sentence, we won't. 430 00:21:21,119 --> 00:21:24,000 Speaker 3: Go too long. I'm gonna say Tennessee. 431 00:21:24,560 --> 00:21:25,240 Speaker 6: What happens. 432 00:21:26,640 --> 00:21:29,120 Speaker 4: I think if Kennavin Sefanski doesn't wind up in New York, 433 00:21:29,119 --> 00:21:30,920 Speaker 4: I to see him winding up in Tennessee. 434 00:21:31,760 --> 00:21:34,440 Speaker 5: If it's not Kevin Stefanski, maybe Robert Sala. 435 00:21:35,720 --> 00:21:36,160 Speaker 3: Raiders. 436 00:21:38,560 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 4: So I think it's either a conventional hire like like 437 00:21:43,800 --> 00:21:46,399 Speaker 4: Jesse Minter makes sense there with the Michigan connections with 438 00:21:46,480 --> 00:21:50,919 Speaker 4: Brady and John Spytech. Do they take a swing on 439 00:21:51,000 --> 00:21:53,800 Speaker 4: Davis Web Like, do they take a swing on somebody 440 00:21:53,880 --> 00:21:54,080 Speaker 4: like that. 441 00:21:54,200 --> 00:21:55,680 Speaker 5: I don't think that that's impossible. 442 00:21:56,200 --> 00:22:08,600 Speaker 7: Dolphins that Clint Kubiak, Clint Kubiak, Yeah, there's some carryover 443 00:22:09,080 --> 00:22:12,920 Speaker 7: system wise with Clint and Matt Lafleur and John Eric 444 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:17,440 Speaker 7: Sullivan came from came from Green Bay and had been with. 445 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:19,520 Speaker 5: Lefloor and is going to be comfortable with Clint. 446 00:22:19,359 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 4: Kubiak's vision and be able to carry out Clint Kubiak's vision. 447 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:25,200 Speaker 4: I know one of the things they're really looking for 448 00:22:25,240 --> 00:22:28,920 Speaker 4: there is a collaborative environment, you know, in their new structure, 449 00:22:28,920 --> 00:22:33,000 Speaker 4: and so Clint would make some sense for them. 450 00:22:33,200 --> 00:22:33,960 Speaker 6: One more. 451 00:22:35,840 --> 00:22:45,119 Speaker 4: Steelers Chris Sula. Yeah, so I'm tempted to say Marcus Freeman. 452 00:22:44,760 --> 00:22:48,840 Speaker 1: By the way, but by his camp says he's not interested. 453 00:22:48,920 --> 00:22:49,520 Speaker 3: You don't buy that. 454 00:22:50,200 --> 00:22:52,080 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's the one. 455 00:22:52,400 --> 00:22:53,920 Speaker 4: I think it's the one of all these like his 456 00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,320 Speaker 4: Like so, the Giants and Titans did pursue him, you know, 457 00:22:58,480 --> 00:22:59,080 Speaker 4: and did. 458 00:23:00,440 --> 00:23:02,119 Speaker 5: To gauge interest and talk to them. 459 00:23:01,960 --> 00:23:04,439 Speaker 4: And everything else, and that was right when he agreed 460 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,040 Speaker 4: to stay at Notre Dame. 461 00:23:06,520 --> 00:23:07,760 Speaker 5: I do think he has. 462 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:11,080 Speaker 4: Designs on coaching in the NFL, and let me ask 463 00:23:11,119 --> 00:23:14,639 Speaker 4: you this, Colin. If Marcus Freeman right now were the 464 00:23:14,680 --> 00:23:19,800 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator of say the Chargers, wouldn't he checked every 465 00:23:19,840 --> 00:23:22,760 Speaker 4: box as far as like a Steelers head coach, like 466 00:23:22,760 --> 00:23:26,960 Speaker 4: what they generally look for. Absolutely, like he carries himself 467 00:23:26,960 --> 00:23:29,520 Speaker 4: like a Steelers head coach. I think Chris Schule is 468 00:23:29,560 --> 00:23:31,760 Speaker 4: the same, by the way, but Marcus Freeman would check 469 00:23:31,800 --> 00:23:34,440 Speaker 4: a lot of boxes for the Steelers, just kind of 470 00:23:34,440 --> 00:23:38,040 Speaker 4: that battleship commander that they've always had. I think Chris 471 00:23:38,080 --> 00:23:41,400 Speaker 4: Schule if you look at his background, right, and despite 472 00:23:41,440 --> 00:23:43,480 Speaker 4: his last name, he's had to work his way up 473 00:23:43,880 --> 00:23:49,120 Speaker 4: right and check boxes along the way. And Sean McVay, 474 00:23:49,280 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 4: despite their relationship, really made Chris earn it there. And 475 00:23:53,320 --> 00:23:56,239 Speaker 4: I can remember like when they promoted him, like that 476 00:23:56,359 --> 00:23:59,000 Speaker 4: was not about like oh yeah, like you know, he's 477 00:23:59,040 --> 00:24:00,639 Speaker 4: just been here long enough, we ought to give it 478 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:02,639 Speaker 4: to him, Like he really had to earn that job. 479 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:06,639 Speaker 4: I heard Shula's name connected to this deals before any 480 00:24:06,680 --> 00:24:09,959 Speaker 4: of this happened, like two three weeks ago. And if 481 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,239 Speaker 4: you think about like kind of what they've looked for 482 00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:15,160 Speaker 4: and head coaches, maybe not the guy everybody's looking at, 483 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,360 Speaker 4: but somebody with a defensive background, who's got real presence, 484 00:24:18,640 --> 00:24:21,760 Speaker 4: who carries himself like a battleship commander, who can handle 485 00:24:21,760 --> 00:24:23,200 Speaker 4: the pressure of being Pittsburgh. 486 00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,160 Speaker 5: I think Chris Shula, to me, would check a lot 487 00:24:26,160 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 5: of those boxes. 488 00:24:28,359 --> 00:24:31,640 Speaker 4: And again, like, I think this is somewhere too that 489 00:24:31,920 --> 00:24:34,919 Speaker 4: having that last name probably doesn't hurt and not that 490 00:24:35,000 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 4: it like you think he's going to be the next 491 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,959 Speaker 4: Don Shula, But this is a guy who's dealt with 492 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:43,320 Speaker 4: expectations his entire life, you know, because of that last name. 493 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:45,440 Speaker 5: So I think he would be a really interesting fit 494 00:24:45,480 --> 00:24:46,200 Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh. 495 00:24:46,359 --> 00:24:50,119 Speaker 6: Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback. Great, see anybody all right? 496 00:24:50,160 --> 00:24:50,360 Speaker 5: Thanks? 497 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:56,600 Speaker 6: Going, Yeah, there's some interesting candidates for sure. 498 00:24:59,240 --> 00:24:59,480 Speaker 3: Colin. 499 00:24:59,520 --> 00:25:02,680 Speaker 8: He dropped seven bombs there in that I'm over here, 500 00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,400 Speaker 8: Like what Marcus Freeman? 501 00:25:06,760 --> 00:25:07,160 Speaker 3: Come on? 502 00:25:07,560 --> 00:25:10,159 Speaker 8: You think The only scary thing, and I just texted 503 00:25:10,160 --> 00:25:13,199 Speaker 8: my two Notre Dame people who are close to the program, 504 00:25:13,560 --> 00:25:15,720 Speaker 8: is that the Steelers would give Marcus Freeman a huge 505 00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,000 Speaker 8: runway right, who cares old roster? 506 00:25:18,320 --> 00:25:19,080 Speaker 3: No quarterback here? 507 00:25:19,240 --> 00:25:19,880 Speaker 4: Each other talent. 508 00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:22,840 Speaker 1: Here's the other great thing about Marcus Freeman. They have 509 00:25:22,920 --> 00:25:27,359 Speaker 1: a first, a second, three thirds, two fourths. Who knows 510 00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,639 Speaker 1: college personnel. Marcus Freeman, just like Harball goes to the 511 00:25:31,760 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: Chargers back to back drafts. He knows he's recruited all 512 00:25:35,800 --> 00:25:38,919 Speaker 1: these top guys. You get a huge I mean, if 513 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 1: you go pure NFL guy, you don't get that. When 514 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:45,560 Speaker 1: you hire Harbaugh, you kind of get that. You hire 515 00:25:45,680 --> 00:25:48,680 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman. I guarantee it for the next two drafts. 516 00:25:48,960 --> 00:25:52,439 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman's gonna ace it. You know, he knows the 517 00:25:52,440 --> 00:25:55,040 Speaker 1: odometer on guys, not just the Senior Bowl. 518 00:25:55,520 --> 00:25:57,880 Speaker 8: That would be a bigger shock to me than Tom 519 00:25:57,920 --> 00:25:59,360 Speaker 8: Lennard Harball even combined. 520 00:25:59,640 --> 00:26:00,760 Speaker 9: If Mark a streaming left. 521 00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:01,400 Speaker 2: Notre Dame, would you take? 522 00:26:01,480 --> 00:26:04,840 Speaker 3: Would you take? You tell me Notre Dame are the Steelers? 523 00:26:05,280 --> 00:26:06,000 Speaker 5: I mean Notre Dame is. 524 00:26:05,960 --> 00:26:07,639 Speaker 8: Gonna be stacked next year. Their quarterback could be a 525 00:26:07,680 --> 00:26:10,240 Speaker 8: top five thick. I'm not going I would stay Notre Dame. 526 00:26:10,320 --> 00:26:13,399 Speaker 8: But the Steelers they're gonna be okay being terrible for 527 00:26:13,440 --> 00:26:14,480 Speaker 8: three years because the. 528 00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:15,840 Speaker 3: Owners, They're not going to be terrible. 529 00:26:16,160 --> 00:26:18,280 Speaker 9: Colin their roster is garbage. 530 00:26:18,359 --> 00:26:20,080 Speaker 3: Dude, dude, dude. 531 00:26:20,359 --> 00:26:24,480 Speaker 1: A first, a second, three threes, two four. With Marcus Freeman, all. 532 00:26:24,359 --> 00:26:26,600 Speaker 9: You have too QB one that's. 533 00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:29,240 Speaker 1: Away by the way, New England three hundred million in 534 00:26:29,280 --> 00:26:34,199 Speaker 1: cap space, seven draft picks, shocking, they had Drake may Well, 535 00:26:34,480 --> 00:26:36,280 Speaker 1: Drake on this one, you're not gonna be I mean, 536 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:38,760 Speaker 1: I bet you everything I've earned. You're not gonna be 537 00:26:38,880 --> 00:26:42,080 Speaker 1: terrible for three years with Marcus Freeman. That roster is 538 00:26:42,119 --> 00:26:44,800 Speaker 1: going to turn over by the last but the last 539 00:26:44,840 --> 00:26:47,680 Speaker 1: weekend of April, you're gonna have seven new guys who 540 00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:50,720 Speaker 1: can play. And then and then, by the way, now 541 00:26:50,760 --> 00:26:53,040 Speaker 1: that you don't pay the quarterback, they're gonna have the 542 00:26:53,080 --> 00:26:53,919 Speaker 1: most money. 543 00:26:53,640 --> 00:26:54,280 Speaker 3: In the league. 544 00:26:54,720 --> 00:26:56,760 Speaker 1: They're not paying it. They're gonna happen what New England 545 00:26:56,800 --> 00:26:59,440 Speaker 1: did to their roster. Forget Drake may Look at their roster. 546 00:26:59,640 --> 00:27:02,040 Speaker 1: Last year the Patriots had the worst receiving core in 547 00:27:02,119 --> 00:27:04,800 Speaker 1: the league. Now it's like number three in big plays. 548 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,560 Speaker 1: Why they had money and draft picks. 549 00:27:08,400 --> 00:27:10,520 Speaker 8: The other thing Brier said, by the way, he said 550 00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:13,120 Speaker 8: Davis Webb as a head coach, I almost fell out 551 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:15,000 Speaker 8: of my chair. I had to look up where Davis's web. 552 00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 8: He's like a passing game coordinator for the Broncos. What 553 00:27:18,480 --> 00:27:19,480 Speaker 8: he was in the league. 554 00:27:19,320 --> 00:27:22,720 Speaker 9: Like seven minutes ago. So Breer's onto. I love that stuff. 555 00:27:22,840 --> 00:27:25,600 Speaker 9: I love the rumors in the scuttle butt, Oh. 556 00:27:25,400 --> 00:27:28,240 Speaker 3: Juicy in Chicago, It's third. 557 00:27:36,600 --> 00:27:39,680 Speaker 2: One more heard. The Herd streams twenty four hours a day, 558 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 2: seven days a week within the iHeartRadio app. Search Herd 559 00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:47,080 Speaker 2: to listen live or on demand whenever you like. Fox 560 00:27:47,119 --> 00:27:50,399 Speaker 2: Sports Radio is taking over YouTube and you can be 561 00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,000 Speaker 2: a part of it. 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Fox Sports Radio on YouTube. 568 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:16,160 Speaker 3: Subscribe, hit that thumbs up icon and coming away. 569 00:28:16,880 --> 00:28:21,240 Speaker 1: All right, I do this, this will be I always 570 00:28:21,280 --> 00:28:23,480 Speaker 1: have about five or six teams in my Super Bowl bubble. 571 00:28:24,320 --> 00:28:27,280 Speaker 1: A lot of those teams like Kansas City or in 572 00:28:27,320 --> 00:28:29,439 Speaker 1: New England and their dynasty that we don't have that 573 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:31,320 Speaker 1: this year. In fact, maybe the best team's Buffalo. We 574 00:28:31,320 --> 00:28:34,520 Speaker 1: don't know and are they a Super Bowl team? So 575 00:28:34,560 --> 00:28:38,600 Speaker 1: eight teams left, I'm gonna tell you how many teams 576 00:28:38,640 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: I think are capable of winning the Super Bowl. That's 577 00:28:43,000 --> 00:28:45,680 Speaker 1: a lot of wins from today. So we'll start with 578 00:28:45,720 --> 00:28:50,360 Speaker 1: the Rams. Number one scoring offense, number one total offense 579 00:28:50,400 --> 00:28:55,080 Speaker 1: in the NFL, and they are healthy. Okay, they're healthy, 580 00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,320 Speaker 1: and that offense is lethal. Matt Stafford's always been good 581 00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,400 Speaker 1: in the playoffs six and two with the Rams one 582 00:29:02,480 --> 00:29:06,320 Speaker 1: oh seven passer rating. I don't love their special teams. 583 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: But one of the teams that matched up very well 584 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:14,360 Speaker 1: against them, Philadelphia with AJ Brown a problem for their corners. 585 00:29:14,640 --> 00:29:18,280 Speaker 1: They're out by the way, Carolina match up well with 586 00:29:18,280 --> 00:29:22,920 Speaker 1: them twice. Two big boundary of receivers. The Rams are 587 00:29:22,920 --> 00:29:26,320 Speaker 1: a Super Bowl bubble team. The second one I would 588 00:29:26,320 --> 00:29:29,160 Speaker 1: put in New England folks. They've won fourteen in the 589 00:29:29,240 --> 00:29:33,440 Speaker 1: last fifteen games, top five coach. They also lead the 590 00:29:33,600 --> 00:29:38,040 Speaker 1: NFL in yards per play, including the playoffs. That is 591 00:29:38,280 --> 00:29:40,920 Speaker 1: that's what the wise guys like. And I said this yesterday. 592 00:29:41,120 --> 00:29:45,840 Speaker 1: Here's where they remind me of the old Patriots. A mature, tall, 593 00:29:45,960 --> 00:29:52,360 Speaker 1: accurate quarterback, a defense, tough guy at coach, Josh McDaniel, coordinator, 594 00:29:52,520 --> 00:29:57,520 Speaker 1: Robert Kraft, owner and those Patriot teams didn't have any 595 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,200 Speaker 1: major holes. They weren't the best at a a lot 596 00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,000 Speaker 1: of things other than quarterback, but they didn't have a 597 00:30:03,040 --> 00:30:05,480 Speaker 1: lot of holes. I don't know what the hole on 598 00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,640 Speaker 1: the Patriots is. I do think they have to continue 599 00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:11,280 Speaker 1: to modify the old line, but they don't have a 600 00:30:11,280 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: lot of holes. They may not be great at anything. 601 00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:17,760 Speaker 1: Are they terrible at anything? I have New England capable 602 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,800 Speaker 1: of getting in winning a Super Bowl. The third team 603 00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:22,520 Speaker 1: I think can get in as the Seahawks. 604 00:30:22,640 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 3: Again. 605 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:29,120 Speaker 1: They won eleven of twelve, only lost two points in 606 00:30:29,160 --> 00:30:33,560 Speaker 1: a turnover play game against the Rams, number four scoring offense. 607 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,320 Speaker 1: You can't run the football on them, so they force 608 00:30:36,360 --> 00:30:39,000 Speaker 1: you to throw. Well, that can be problematic if you're 609 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: playing in Seattle and it's raining in January sideways. I 610 00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,800 Speaker 1: think their coach is the defensive version of Sean McVay. 611 00:30:46,560 --> 00:30:50,320 Speaker 1: They can score early, they can score late. Sometimes they're 612 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,360 Speaker 1: a little dependent on JS senate wide receiver. Okay, but 613 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,720 Speaker 1: again I don't know where their hole is. Well, Darnold 614 00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,560 Speaker 1: throws picked, so does brock perty. 615 00:30:59,280 --> 00:31:01,560 Speaker 3: And Matt Stafford votes, so did Peyton Manning. 616 00:31:01,920 --> 00:31:04,840 Speaker 1: I think the Seahawks are an obvious choice capable of 617 00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:08,200 Speaker 1: getting to and winning the Super Bowl. And my fourth 618 00:31:08,240 --> 00:31:11,760 Speaker 1: and final team maybe. 619 00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:13,560 Speaker 3: Is the Buffalo Bills. 620 00:31:15,240 --> 00:31:18,720 Speaker 1: Best second half team in the league. Josh Allen has 621 00:31:18,800 --> 00:31:22,320 Speaker 1: twice as many wins eight as the remaining AFC quarterbacks 622 00:31:22,320 --> 00:31:26,400 Speaker 1: combine four. Their offensive personnel is very good, Deon Dawkins, 623 00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:31,360 Speaker 1: James Cook, excellent tight ends, Kincaid Dawson, Knox. Offensive line 624 00:31:31,440 --> 00:31:37,080 Speaker 1: is good. Defense worries me a little, but I think 625 00:31:37,120 --> 00:31:39,040 Speaker 1: they can go and win the Super Bowl. I've changed 626 00:31:39,040 --> 00:31:42,320 Speaker 1: my mind on this impressive win of Jacksonville. How about 627 00:31:42,320 --> 00:31:48,480 Speaker 1: the Chicago Bears. I can't put them in worst scoring defense, 628 00:31:48,560 --> 00:31:51,880 Speaker 1: worst total defense of the remaining playoff teams. They just 629 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:57,520 Speaker 1: give up to many big plays Niners. Now that Kittle's out, 630 00:31:57,800 --> 00:32:03,320 Speaker 1: Bosa Warner out, I can't put the Niners in second 631 00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:06,040 Speaker 1: word scoring defense. Saula's doing it with smoking mirrors. 632 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:06,600 Speaker 3: Okay. 633 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:12,000 Speaker 1: Now my Denver Broncos, I can't held the twenty points 634 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:13,440 Speaker 1: or few or three straight games. 635 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:15,640 Speaker 3: I think they're the best. 636 00:32:15,280 --> 00:32:19,200 Speaker 1: Team potentially because they get a play at home, so 637 00:32:19,320 --> 00:32:22,680 Speaker 1: I think they're I keep your eye on Denver against Buffalo, 638 00:32:23,320 --> 00:32:26,400 Speaker 1: but they've played a very easy schedule. The Jacksonville loss 639 00:32:26,760 --> 00:32:30,800 Speaker 1: was kind of a whoe moment and they are struggling offensively. 640 00:32:31,320 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: People got a lot of film now in bow Knicks 641 00:32:33,680 --> 00:32:37,120 Speaker 1: and the Houston Texans. I have changed my mind. Oh 642 00:32:37,080 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: win six divisional round all time. Jmax said it earlier 643 00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: this week. Something's not quite right with CJ. Stroud missing 644 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:47,640 Speaker 1: one of their best receivers. They are this is a 645 00:32:47,720 --> 00:32:51,280 Speaker 1: knock twenty fourth yards per play. I honestly, if Woody 646 00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:54,720 Speaker 1: Marks is out, I don't feel like they're viable. They're 647 00:32:54,880 --> 00:32:57,560 Speaker 1: thirtieth in the red zone. That was my knock on 648 00:32:57,600 --> 00:33:00,680 Speaker 1: them Monday night. They settled for field goals, not touchdowns. 649 00:33:02,600 --> 00:33:10,800 Speaker 1: Rams Seahawks, Bills, Patriots in by the way, its feet. 650 00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,160 Speaker 3: Not even yards Denver. 651 00:33:13,680 --> 00:33:16,800 Speaker 1: I mean the coaching in San Francisco, the pass rush 652 00:33:16,840 --> 00:33:20,720 Speaker 1: in Denver, the defense in Houston, and the explosive late 653 00:33:20,760 --> 00:33:24,000 Speaker 1: game heroics of Caleb Williams. We're not saying they can't 654 00:33:24,040 --> 00:33:27,640 Speaker 1: win another game, but I think only four of eight 655 00:33:27,720 --> 00:33:28,240 Speaker 1: can get. 656 00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:29,160 Speaker 3: To and win the Super Bowl. 657 00:33:29,520 --> 00:33:32,120 Speaker 2: Be sure to catch live editions of The Herd weekdays 658 00:33:32,120 --> 00:33:35,720 Speaker 2: and noon eastern nine am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio 659 00:33:36,000 --> 00:33:38,160 Speaker 2: FS one and the iHeartRadio app. 660 00:33:38,240 --> 00:33:43,080 Speaker 1: With that, Albert Breer is now joining US Live. You're 661 00:33:43,120 --> 00:33:46,000 Speaker 1: a reporter, not that you care any of those rankly, 662 00:33:46,040 --> 00:33:48,440 Speaker 1: any of those you would strongly disagree with. 663 00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,080 Speaker 4: I mean, Houston's defense is starting to feel to me 664 00:33:54,680 --> 00:34:01,360 Speaker 4: like twenty fifteen Broncos, twenty thirteen Seahawks in two Buccaneers, 665 00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:04,920 Speaker 4: I just two thousand Ravens. 666 00:34:05,800 --> 00:34:08,000 Speaker 5: Like just watching them close on the ball, that. 667 00:34:08,000 --> 00:34:09,279 Speaker 4: Was the big thing, because I think we all know, 668 00:34:10,160 --> 00:34:12,480 Speaker 4: like how they can cover on the backhand with the 669 00:34:12,480 --> 00:34:14,600 Speaker 4: corners they have, how they can get after the passer 670 00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:17,640 Speaker 4: with Anderson and Hunter, and then the depth that they 671 00:34:17,680 --> 00:34:20,319 Speaker 4: have on the defensive line. You know, one thing that 672 00:34:20,360 --> 00:34:23,880 Speaker 4: really stuck out to me, Colin was watching when Aaron 673 00:34:23,960 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 4: Rodgers checked the ball down and threw it over the 674 00:34:25,840 --> 00:34:28,239 Speaker 4: middle on Monday Night. Yeah, and how it seemed like 675 00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,120 Speaker 4: there were three hats on the ball like instantly on 676 00:34:31,200 --> 00:34:33,200 Speaker 4: every single play. 677 00:34:33,440 --> 00:34:36,000 Speaker 5: And it's just I. 678 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 4: Saw what they did to the Bills and Josh Allen 679 00:34:40,360 --> 00:34:45,359 Speaker 4: earlier in the year, and the I mean like it 680 00:34:45,400 --> 00:34:48,000 Speaker 4: is just I mean, it legitimately looks like there are 681 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:49,120 Speaker 4: thirteen guys out there. 682 00:34:49,400 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 2: You know. 683 00:34:49,600 --> 00:34:51,600 Speaker 1: I said that when you see a great defense, it 684 00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:53,880 Speaker 1: is as if they're playing with another man, either in 685 00:34:53,920 --> 00:34:56,680 Speaker 1: the pass rush or in the linebacking court, Houston feels 686 00:34:56,719 --> 00:34:58,360 Speaker 1: like they got an extra guy out there. 687 00:34:58,760 --> 00:35:01,319 Speaker 4: Right, So, like my question is, and here's what's so 688 00:35:01,400 --> 00:35:03,560 Speaker 4: interesting about Houston to me? Right, So you got SKJ 689 00:35:03,680 --> 00:35:06,960 Speaker 4: Stroud and I think we've seen it at times this year. 690 00:35:07,520 --> 00:35:09,640 Speaker 4: It just hasn't been consistent, right, like what he was 691 00:35:09,719 --> 00:35:11,640 Speaker 4: as a rookie. So you saw it against San Francisco 692 00:35:11,680 --> 00:35:13,200 Speaker 4: for example. I think he threw for three hundred and 693 00:35:13,239 --> 00:35:15,520 Speaker 4: fifty yards against them. That's a good team. Like, I 694 00:35:15,560 --> 00:35:17,359 Speaker 4: know they've had their injuries, but that's obviously a. 695 00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:18,919 Speaker 5: Really good team. 696 00:35:19,719 --> 00:35:23,719 Speaker 4: I just like, to me, it's like, what do their 697 00:35:23,800 --> 00:35:27,520 Speaker 4: first year guys do, so especially if Nico Collins is 698 00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:28,080 Speaker 4: out this week? 699 00:35:28,160 --> 00:35:30,200 Speaker 5: Right, Like and we'll see on the concussion protocol. 700 00:35:30,640 --> 00:35:33,319 Speaker 4: But their rookie receiver Jayden Higgins and Jalen Noel, their 701 00:35:33,360 --> 00:35:35,840 Speaker 4: rookie running back, what he marks? Their rookie left tackle 702 00:35:36,160 --> 00:35:41,360 Speaker 4: Arianta ERSII, their rookie offensive coordinator Nick Kyley, who knows 703 00:35:41,400 --> 00:35:43,600 Speaker 4: New England inside now because he came up there. 704 00:35:43,640 --> 00:35:45,680 Speaker 5: Like, I just. 705 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:49,279 Speaker 4: I look at the amount of young people and first 706 00:35:49,360 --> 00:35:52,279 Speaker 4: year people, you know, not necessarily all rookies, but these 707 00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,160 Speaker 4: amount of young people that are relying on on offense, 708 00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:58,439 Speaker 4: and the quarterback's part of that equation too, and can 709 00:35:58,480 --> 00:36:02,880 Speaker 4: they give them enough where that defense can can really 710 00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 4: turn it on? 711 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:04,759 Speaker 5: And I think you. 712 00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:08,480 Speaker 4: Saw flapses of it again on Monday night, like there 713 00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:11,359 Speaker 4: was the deep ball to Jalen Noel that was right 714 00:36:11,400 --> 00:36:13,400 Speaker 4: on his numbers and he dropped it, you know. 715 00:36:13,600 --> 00:36:15,320 Speaker 5: So they are just little. 716 00:36:15,040 --> 00:36:17,680 Speaker 4: Things that you see with them offensively where it's like God, 717 00:36:18,280 --> 00:36:19,520 Speaker 4: they're right there. 718 00:36:19,320 --> 00:36:21,600 Speaker 5: And this team could be even better next year, you know. 719 00:36:21,800 --> 00:36:24,840 Speaker 5: And I just think the historic. 720 00:36:24,560 --> 00:36:27,400 Speaker 4: Nature of the defense, we've seen it before, right like so, 721 00:36:27,640 --> 00:36:30,000 Speaker 4: and we've seen it in this era, like we saw 722 00:36:30,040 --> 00:36:32,920 Speaker 4: it with the twenty fifteen Broncos where they didn't have 723 00:36:32,960 --> 00:36:36,440 Speaker 4: a lot offensively. So I'm really interested to see what 724 00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: happens when they come up to fox spron play on Sunday. 725 00:36:38,920 --> 00:36:41,000 Speaker 1: We know the Ravens is the best job for a 726 00:36:41,000 --> 00:36:44,279 Speaker 1: lot of reasons. Great owner, nice roster, a mix of 727 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:49,000 Speaker 1: young experience Pro bowlers. Lamar Jackson. Okay, let's start with 728 00:36:49,040 --> 00:36:52,200 Speaker 1: a number two job. I'm going to argue that we 729 00:36:52,600 --> 00:36:54,719 Speaker 1: I think the Giants is the second best job. I 730 00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:58,640 Speaker 1: go in with left tackle, by the way, great offensive 731 00:36:58,680 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 1: tackle draft. My first I can go get the best tackle, 732 00:37:01,920 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: so I can solve That's like when Brady went to 733 00:37:04,040 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: Tampa and they got Tristan worse. 734 00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 3: That was their big issue. Good roster bad at right Tech. 735 00:37:09,280 --> 00:37:12,160 Speaker 1: So the Giants can solve that right out of the shoot. 736 00:37:13,400 --> 00:37:15,360 Speaker 1: I think the Giants over the Steelers. Steelers don't have 737 00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:18,040 Speaker 1: a quarterback. Steelers spend a lot of money on defense. 738 00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:19,520 Speaker 1: They have a lot of draft things. But you'll be 739 00:37:19,680 --> 00:37:22,840 Speaker 1: very very young defensively next year. Now I know the 740 00:37:22,840 --> 00:37:25,879 Speaker 1: stability thing. We all know that goes without saying in Pittsburgh. 741 00:37:26,120 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: I think the Giants is a better job today to 742 00:37:28,239 --> 00:37:32,480 Speaker 1: me than Pittsburgh. They got Lamar in that division, Burrows 743 00:37:32,520 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 1: coming back in that division next year, they could get 744 00:37:35,120 --> 00:37:37,719 Speaker 1: an arch manning. Do you think the Giants is better 745 00:37:37,760 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 1: than the Steelers? Is the second best gig? 746 00:37:40,000 --> 00:37:41,000 Speaker 5: I would agree. 747 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:44,440 Speaker 4: And I think what's so interesting about this year's market, Colin, 748 00:37:45,120 --> 00:37:48,480 Speaker 4: is so many of the jobs depend on your individual 749 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 4: evaluation of the quarterback, right, because we know how important 750 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:55,040 Speaker 4: having the right quarterback is. So the Giants job, how 751 00:37:55,040 --> 00:37:57,160 Speaker 4: attractive it is, is largely dependent on what you think 752 00:37:57,160 --> 00:37:59,600 Speaker 4: of Jackson Dart. Same thing with cam Ward and Tennessee's 753 00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:01,840 Speaker 4: same thing with Michael Pennix in Atlanta. I mean, he 754 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,640 Speaker 4: can you just say the same thing about Vegas, like 755 00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:06,399 Speaker 4: what do you think of Fernando Mendoza and Dante more Right? 756 00:38:06,920 --> 00:38:07,640 Speaker 5: So, I think the. 757 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:10,560 Speaker 4: Attractiveness of this job it's kind of a moving target 758 00:38:10,600 --> 00:38:12,719 Speaker 4: with some of these teams based on your own evaluation 759 00:38:13,400 --> 00:38:16,359 Speaker 4: of the quarterback position. That said, they have a lot 760 00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:18,440 Speaker 4: of other things with the Giants, like you said, franchise 761 00:38:18,520 --> 00:38:24,000 Speaker 4: left tackle and Andrew Thomas franchise receiver in maliite neighbors 762 00:38:24,120 --> 00:38:27,239 Speaker 4: on the defensive front, I mean, my goodness, Brian Burns, 763 00:38:27,400 --> 00:38:30,360 Speaker 4: Abdulla Carter, Dexter Lawrence, you have a chance to be 764 00:38:30,400 --> 00:38:32,600 Speaker 4: dominant up front right out of the shoot as a 765 00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:35,320 Speaker 4: first year head coach. They've invested in their secondary, bringing 766 00:38:35,360 --> 00:38:39,120 Speaker 4: in Paulson Adebo and Javon Holland last offseason. 767 00:38:38,719 --> 00:38:41,520 Speaker 5: So they have pieces and. 768 00:38:41,080 --> 00:38:42,520 Speaker 4: This is why, like the last couple of years, I 769 00:38:42,560 --> 00:38:44,320 Speaker 4: felt like they were the team right on the edge. 770 00:38:44,640 --> 00:38:46,359 Speaker 5: So I think I would agree with you. 771 00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,759 Speaker 4: I think a lot of it depends on what your 772 00:38:48,760 --> 00:38:50,239 Speaker 4: evaluation of Dart is. 773 00:38:50,800 --> 00:38:53,640 Speaker 5: It's just as to just how attractive the job is. 774 00:38:53,640 --> 00:38:54,480 Speaker 5: But if you love. 775 00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,440 Speaker 4: Dart, I think it's got everything that you'd want, stable ownership, 776 00:38:57,480 --> 00:39:00,480 Speaker 4: all of that. The Steelers, I mean, I I would 777 00:39:00,520 --> 00:39:02,520 Speaker 4: just say this with the Steelers, I think it's an 778 00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:09,040 Speaker 4: attractive job because it's the Steelers. It's a flagship franchise, 779 00:39:09,440 --> 00:39:11,879 Speaker 4: patient ownership. They're going to give you time to bill. 780 00:39:11,960 --> 00:39:14,120 Speaker 4: But man, you got a lot of work to do 781 00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:16,760 Speaker 4: on that roster. They got eight guys and they're starting 782 00:39:16,760 --> 00:39:17,560 Speaker 4: twenty two right. 783 00:39:17,480 --> 00:39:19,960 Speaker 5: Now that are thirty year older. Wow. So what do 784 00:39:20,000 --> 00:39:21,040 Speaker 5: you do with TJ. Watt? 785 00:39:21,080 --> 00:39:22,880 Speaker 4: What do you do with Cam Hayward? Does he retire? 786 00:39:22,920 --> 00:39:25,319 Speaker 4: What do you do with Jalen Ramsey, Aaron Rodgers? Does 787 00:39:25,360 --> 00:39:28,760 Speaker 4: he enter out? You don't have a lot of guys 788 00:39:28,760 --> 00:39:30,319 Speaker 4: in that roster where you look and say, yeah, that 789 00:39:30,360 --> 00:39:32,279 Speaker 4: guy's going to be here three years from now. Got 790 00:39:32,320 --> 00:39:35,279 Speaker 4: a couple offensive linemen, maybe a defensive lineman or two, 791 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:38,759 Speaker 4: and that's it. And so you've got, I think, what 792 00:39:39,400 --> 00:39:42,319 Speaker 4: looks like a relatively lengthy rebuild there. 793 00:39:42,400 --> 00:39:44,160 Speaker 5: That isn't the case with the Giants. 794 00:39:44,960 --> 00:39:50,440 Speaker 1: For the record, the job openings are fascinating. There are 795 00:39:50,640 --> 00:39:51,560 Speaker 1: nine openings. 796 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:53,280 Speaker 3: Guys. 797 00:39:53,320 --> 00:39:55,560 Speaker 1: Put the graphic up. I said, I think there's better 798 00:39:55,680 --> 00:39:59,239 Speaker 1: candidates than we think. I think Tomlin's going to do 799 00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: a reset. I think he's going to take a year 800 00:40:01,280 --> 00:40:03,320 Speaker 1: off to TV. He's not a TV guys like Rabel. 801 00:40:03,520 --> 00:40:05,960 Speaker 1: He could do TV, he's not a TV guy. I 802 00:40:06,000 --> 00:40:11,000 Speaker 1: think hard Boss Tofanski, Tomlin, McCarthy, those are very good options. 803 00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:14,720 Speaker 1: I think Sola, Flores and Dabol deserve a second chance. 804 00:40:15,000 --> 00:40:17,080 Speaker 1: If I had to, I'd hire all of them. I 805 00:40:17,120 --> 00:40:21,200 Speaker 1: think Menzer, Kubiak and Halflee are certainly worthy of an opportunity. 806 00:40:21,560 --> 00:40:24,440 Speaker 1: I think Kingsbury is an OC. I don't think he 807 00:40:24,560 --> 00:40:28,080 Speaker 1: likes conflict. That's why he's bailing on DC. He felt 808 00:40:28,080 --> 00:40:30,919 Speaker 1: bullied by Adam Peters I was told. I also think 809 00:40:30,960 --> 00:40:33,680 Speaker 1: Mike McDaniel's brilliant. I think he's a vice president, not 810 00:40:33,719 --> 00:40:36,200 Speaker 1: a president. I'd hired him in one second to be 811 00:40:36,280 --> 00:40:41,200 Speaker 1: my coordinator. Anything there when you look at this tiering, 812 00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:43,560 Speaker 1: Am I missing something? 813 00:40:43,880 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 3: Is half Lee considering? 814 00:40:45,600 --> 00:40:46,000 Speaker 4: Yeah? 815 00:40:46,080 --> 00:40:47,520 Speaker 3: I mean you tell me what you make of that? 816 00:40:48,200 --> 00:40:49,880 Speaker 4: Okay, So like the first thing I would say is like, 817 00:40:49,920 --> 00:40:51,920 Speaker 4: I'm looking at your second chance guys. I think Robert 818 00:40:51,920 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 4: Sala has a chance because of his ability to put 819 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,440 Speaker 4: together a staff. His ties are all to the Shanahan tree. 820 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:01,160 Speaker 4: Could he bring Mike McDaniel, who he's very close to 821 00:41:01,280 --> 00:41:04,279 Speaker 4: Tennessee with him, Or could he bring Mike Lafleur for 822 00:41:04,360 --> 00:41:06,759 Speaker 4: the opportunity to call plays if Sean mcday would let 823 00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:08,600 Speaker 4: him leave the call plays, could he bring him to 824 00:41:08,640 --> 00:41:11,239 Speaker 4: Tennessee with him? And you know, Robert is not only 825 00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:13,440 Speaker 4: going to have that guy, he's also going to know 826 00:41:13,480 --> 00:41:15,239 Speaker 4: who the next guy is, so he can go to 827 00:41:15,320 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 4: an owner and say, look, this is our Mike mc daniels, 828 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,720 Speaker 4: our coordinator this year, next year, and if he leaves, 829 00:41:22,040 --> 00:41:23,839 Speaker 4: I got this other guy coming with me from San 830 00:41:23,840 --> 00:41:26,719 Speaker 4: Francisco who I think is going to be the next coordinator. Right, 831 00:41:27,200 --> 00:41:29,200 Speaker 4: So I think Robert gives you the chance to do that. 832 00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,200 Speaker 4: His ability to build a staff is really, really solid. 833 00:41:32,239 --> 00:41:34,719 Speaker 4: I look at the first time guys, and I think 834 00:41:34,719 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 4: what's fascinating about this year is that the best ones 835 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:39,040 Speaker 4: are on defense. 836 00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:39,600 Speaker 1: Right. 837 00:41:39,960 --> 00:41:42,680 Speaker 4: Jesse Mintro got requested by every single team with an 838 00:41:42,719 --> 00:41:45,600 Speaker 4: opening save for Pittsburgh. We'll see if that one comes. 839 00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,560 Speaker 4: Jeff Haffley has been a head coach before, has done 840 00:41:48,600 --> 00:41:51,280 Speaker 4: a fantastic job at green Bay, really good reaching people, 841 00:41:51,680 --> 00:41:54,279 Speaker 4: Anthony Campinelli and Jacksonville. I think things are going to 842 00:41:54,320 --> 00:41:58,040 Speaker 4: pick up on him a little bit. Matt Burke in Houston. 843 00:41:58,080 --> 00:41:59,759 Speaker 4: We see what he's been able to build there. 844 00:42:00,080 --> 00:42:02,279 Speaker 5: Yio. Everro, you've got all these young guys. 845 00:42:02,280 --> 00:42:05,280 Speaker 4: There's almost like this backlog of young defensive coaches because 846 00:42:05,280 --> 00:42:08,640 Speaker 4: everybody's been mining the offensive pipeline for so long. So 847 00:42:08,719 --> 00:42:10,400 Speaker 4: I think there are a lot of good young defensive 848 00:42:10,400 --> 00:42:12,799 Speaker 4: coaches there. And then on the offensive side, if you're 849 00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:16,120 Speaker 4: dead set on getting one, it's just me you're gonna 850 00:42:16,120 --> 00:42:18,480 Speaker 4: be rolling the dice a little right Like. So, Clint Kubiak, 851 00:42:18,520 --> 00:42:21,160 Speaker 4: I think is a really good young coach. Is he ready? 852 00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:21,760 Speaker 5: We'll see. 853 00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,359 Speaker 4: He comes off a lot like his dad, right, which 854 00:42:24,360 --> 00:42:26,280 Speaker 4: is a good thing, but you have to be comfortable 855 00:42:26,280 --> 00:42:29,960 Speaker 4: with like kind of that level, quiet, calm personality. 856 00:42:30,680 --> 00:42:31,759 Speaker 5: Davis Webb's another one. 857 00:42:31,880 --> 00:42:34,560 Speaker 4: Davis Webb's fantastic and is going to be a head coach, 858 00:42:34,560 --> 00:42:36,120 Speaker 4: playing quarterback in the league. 859 00:42:36,239 --> 00:42:38,000 Speaker 5: He's thirty years old. Is he ready? 860 00:42:38,239 --> 00:42:40,479 Speaker 4: So on the offensive side, I think you'd be looking 861 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 4: at guys that are just dice rolls, you know, Whereas 862 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:44,920 Speaker 4: on the defensive side of the ball, I think you 863 00:42:45,000 --> 00:42:46,160 Speaker 4: got more guys who are ready. 864 00:42:46,760 --> 00:42:49,440 Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers I thought, I said, I thought he should 865 00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,359 Speaker 1: retire or go to the Vikings. I think he made 866 00:42:51,400 --> 00:42:54,320 Speaker 1: the most of it. I nominate him for Comeback Player 867 00:42:54,320 --> 00:42:56,799 Speaker 1: of the Year. I think the Steelers offense. I mean, 868 00:42:56,800 --> 00:42:58,640 Speaker 1: like I said this earlier, Mike Tomlin doesn't have a 869 00:42:58,640 --> 00:43:02,239 Speaker 1: coaching tree. It's a cactus like the oc sins Arians 870 00:43:02,320 --> 00:43:04,640 Speaker 1: just they don't they don't, they don't do anything. 871 00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:06,239 Speaker 5: So I never heard of that one before. 872 00:43:06,280 --> 00:43:09,000 Speaker 3: I cat this, so I think coaching cactus. 873 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:13,880 Speaker 1: So he basically Aaron did the best of what you 874 00:43:13,960 --> 00:43:16,600 Speaker 1: can do with a kind of a tone deaf offensive. 875 00:43:17,640 --> 00:43:20,680 Speaker 1: I mean, like last seven years the Steelers have been 876 00:43:20,840 --> 00:43:23,840 Speaker 1: bottom ten in offensive spending. It's a tough lift, and 877 00:43:23,880 --> 00:43:26,480 Speaker 1: I think Aaron did a great job. I think Aaron 878 00:43:26,719 --> 00:43:30,280 Speaker 1: steps away and does traveling. I think he would listen 879 00:43:30,760 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: and go to Minnesota for a Viking. I think he 880 00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:37,440 Speaker 1: would listen. But my guess is like he doesn't want 881 00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,799 Speaker 1: to bounce around. What do you think his future is? 882 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:44,160 Speaker 4: I know the people who are there with him in 883 00:43:44,200 --> 00:43:46,920 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh think that this is going to be it for him. 884 00:43:47,360 --> 00:43:51,160 Speaker 4: And like so I know, like people that were operating 885 00:43:51,239 --> 00:43:54,000 Speaker 4: under the impression that he was going to retire after 886 00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:57,000 Speaker 4: this year, doesn't mean and I'm not saying he's told 887 00:43:57,040 --> 00:43:59,360 Speaker 4: anybody that, but like they were under the impression that 888 00:43:59,400 --> 00:44:01,799 Speaker 4: this was going to be it for him, regardless of 889 00:44:01,800 --> 00:44:04,879 Speaker 4: whether Mike Tomlin comes back or not. I also think, 890 00:44:04,960 --> 00:44:08,080 Speaker 4: like just what I know about Aaron, I do think 891 00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:10,520 Speaker 4: that this year gave him some closure, you know, because 892 00:44:10,520 --> 00:44:12,719 Speaker 4: I think what he was looking for in New York 893 00:44:12,760 --> 00:44:14,759 Speaker 4: at the end, he wanted to fall in love with 894 00:44:14,760 --> 00:44:19,120 Speaker 4: football again, right, and really, like so much about him 895 00:44:19,120 --> 00:44:21,879 Speaker 4: had become about everything off the field, right, and all 896 00:44:21,920 --> 00:44:26,040 Speaker 4: the stuff that he does with the hyahuasca and everything else. 897 00:44:26,120 --> 00:44:27,920 Speaker 4: And I think by the end of New York he 898 00:44:28,000 --> 00:44:30,160 Speaker 4: was kind of like, I want to just be a 899 00:44:30,160 --> 00:44:33,759 Speaker 4: football player again, and because of the circumstances in that organization, 900 00:44:34,360 --> 00:44:37,080 Speaker 4: he wasn't really allowed to do that. And going to 901 00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,319 Speaker 4: Pittsburgh gave him that. And I think he truly did 902 00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:41,960 Speaker 4: love being there this year. He loved playing for Tomlin, 903 00:44:42,760 --> 00:44:45,160 Speaker 4: and I think he fell in love with playing football again. 904 00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,279 Speaker 4: So the question becomes, and I think most people who 905 00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,919 Speaker 4: know him would say, well, that gave him closure. Does 906 00:44:50,920 --> 00:44:53,760 Speaker 4: it make him want to play again? Like, I can't 907 00:44:53,800 --> 00:44:56,960 Speaker 4: answer that, but I think he's probably done. But if 908 00:44:57,000 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 4: the perfect situation came along. If Kevin O'Connell picks up 909 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:03,239 Speaker 4: phone and says, look like, you know, we talked about 910 00:45:03,239 --> 00:45:04,719 Speaker 4: this last year. Would you want to come and do 911 00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:07,400 Speaker 4: it now? Maybe he would jump into something like that, 912 00:45:07,560 --> 00:45:10,920 Speaker 4: but I get the feeling that this is it for him. 913 00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:12,760 Speaker 3: Okay, I gotta address Buffalo. 914 00:45:13,160 --> 00:45:15,400 Speaker 1: And this happens all the time where I see something 915 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:19,800 Speaker 1: and I can't unsee it. And Buffalo going to Jacksonville, 916 00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,520 Speaker 1: a red hot Jaguars team with a sharp offensive coach, 917 00:45:24,239 --> 00:45:26,520 Speaker 1: and really I felt like most of that game it 918 00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:30,799 Speaker 1: was Buffalo's game, and I was like, wow, I think 919 00:45:30,840 --> 00:45:32,840 Speaker 1: they're going to go to Denver and win. And I 920 00:45:32,880 --> 00:45:36,800 Speaker 1: did not feel that. I I and sometimes you know this, 921 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:38,600 Speaker 1: this this league will give you these moments and you're like, 922 00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,000 Speaker 1: oh wow, Like when I'm watching Caleb Williams against the 923 00:45:43,120 --> 00:45:46,080 Speaker 1: Niners late in the year, and I mean, just it's volleyball. 924 00:45:46,160 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 1: It's just one great play, one fact and against SLA 925 00:45:48,600 --> 00:45:51,680 Speaker 1: and I'm like, man, Caleb is he's graduated to a 926 00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,120 Speaker 1: different class, whatever the class is. And then he does 927 00:45:54,160 --> 00:45:55,920 Speaker 1: it again against the Packers. 928 00:45:55,480 --> 00:46:00,600 Speaker 3: And half league. I mean, I don't know it from here? 929 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:02,680 Speaker 3: What what what do you make about with Buffalo. 930 00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:08,320 Speaker 4: I I think I'm gonna steal Kirby Smart's line. 931 00:46:08,800 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 5: I think Buffalo is hard to kill. 932 00:46:10,719 --> 00:46:13,000 Speaker 4: Like, I think that's what they've become now, and like 933 00:46:13,080 --> 00:46:15,239 Speaker 4: I and I think you can see it. 934 00:46:15,160 --> 00:46:17,920 Speaker 5: Like that was a pressure pack situation. 935 00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:23,040 Speaker 4: I mean, like, if you go to Jacksonville and lose, 936 00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:26,520 Speaker 4: and that's a really good Jacksonville team, right, a really 937 00:46:26,520 --> 00:46:30,680 Speaker 4: good Jacksonville team that kick Denver's ass, Like, I like, 938 00:46:31,719 --> 00:46:33,719 Speaker 4: if you lose that game, there are tons of big 939 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:37,520 Speaker 4: picture questions that are on the table, right, that's fair. Yeah, 940 00:46:37,719 --> 00:46:42,960 Speaker 4: So so in that pressurized environment, look at Sean McDermott's 941 00:46:43,000 --> 00:46:45,799 Speaker 4: decision making, and I thought this was so interesting. And 942 00:46:45,880 --> 00:46:47,600 Speaker 4: this is the day and age when everybody's got to 943 00:46:47,640 --> 00:46:49,359 Speaker 4: go for it and I'm fourth down all the time, 944 00:46:49,400 --> 00:46:52,719 Speaker 4: and everybody's hearkee jerky and panicky. Right towards the end 945 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:56,080 Speaker 4: of the second half, on a fourth and four, he 946 00:46:56,600 --> 00:46:58,640 Speaker 4: goes out, sends Matt Prater out there to kick a 947 00:46:58,640 --> 00:47:01,239 Speaker 4: forty five yard field goal. They get penalized, kicks it 948 00:47:01,280 --> 00:47:04,520 Speaker 4: from fifty yards anyway. End of the half. They punt 949 00:47:04,560 --> 00:47:07,200 Speaker 4: on a fourth and four from the Jacksonville side of 950 00:47:07,200 --> 00:47:08,920 Speaker 4: the fifty and then on the first drive of the 951 00:47:08,960 --> 00:47:13,200 Speaker 4: second half, they again were in position to go for 952 00:47:13,239 --> 00:47:16,080 Speaker 4: it on fourth and less than five and send Prayeder 953 00:47:16,120 --> 00:47:18,800 Speaker 4: out there for a forty seven yard field goal. Those 954 00:47:18,840 --> 00:47:23,160 Speaker 4: were little things Colin that told me Sean McDermott has 955 00:47:23,160 --> 00:47:25,359 Speaker 4: the utmost confidence that his team is going to pull 956 00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:27,880 Speaker 4: this out in the end. He didn't need this field 957 00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:31,600 Speaker 4: of need to build a big lead. He felt like 958 00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:34,120 Speaker 4: if he just played the game out, his team would 959 00:47:34,160 --> 00:47:35,760 Speaker 4: be able to get to the end of the game 960 00:47:36,239 --> 00:47:38,880 Speaker 4: and put its trump card, which is Josh Allen on 961 00:47:38,920 --> 00:47:42,720 Speaker 4: the table, right. And so this isn't the best Bills 962 00:47:42,760 --> 00:47:45,759 Speaker 4: team of the last five years, but I think it's 963 00:47:45,760 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 4: the hardest one to kill, you know. And I just 964 00:47:48,040 --> 00:47:50,319 Speaker 4: think that this is the Bills team where you look 965 00:47:50,360 --> 00:47:53,239 Speaker 4: at it and there's just a belief in what they're 966 00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:55,000 Speaker 4: doing and if we can get to the end of 967 00:47:55,040 --> 00:47:56,640 Speaker 4: the game and put the ball in the hands of 968 00:47:56,640 --> 00:47:59,440 Speaker 4: our quarterback, we are going to win the game. And 969 00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:01,920 Speaker 4: see it over the last two months of this season, 970 00:48:02,239 --> 00:48:05,600 Speaker 4: the way they fell behind against the Bucks, against the Steelers, 971 00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:09,279 Speaker 4: against the Bengals, against the Patriots and roared back in 972 00:48:09,280 --> 00:48:11,920 Speaker 4: the second half of all of those games, I just 973 00:48:12,800 --> 00:48:15,920 Speaker 4: it just feels like this, and maybe it sounds corny, 974 00:48:16,200 --> 00:48:17,759 Speaker 4: but it does feel like there's a little bit of 975 00:48:17,760 --> 00:48:21,040 Speaker 4: an intangible quality with this Buffalo team that didn't exist before. 976 00:48:21,520 --> 00:48:24,480 Speaker 1: Okay, we'll do I'm gonna give you a team. Can 977 00:48:24,520 --> 00:48:27,080 Speaker 1: you just give me a name a leading candidate in 978 00:48:27,120 --> 00:48:31,560 Speaker 1: a sentence? We won't go too long. I'm gonna say Tennessee. 979 00:48:32,120 --> 00:48:32,800 Speaker 3: What happens. 980 00:48:34,200 --> 00:48:36,680 Speaker 4: I think if Kennavin Sefanski doesn't wind up in New York, 981 00:48:36,680 --> 00:48:38,480 Speaker 4: I could see him winding up in Tennessee. 982 00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:42,000 Speaker 5: If it's not Kevin Stefanski, maybe Robert Sala. 983 00:48:43,239 --> 00:48:43,719 Speaker 3: Raiders. 984 00:48:46,120 --> 00:48:51,200 Speaker 4: So I think it's either a conventional hire like like 985 00:48:51,360 --> 00:48:53,960 Speaker 4: Jesse Minter makes sense there with the Michigan connections with 986 00:48:54,040 --> 00:48:58,440 Speaker 4: Brady and John Spytech, do they take a swing on 987 00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 4: Davis Web Do they take a swung on somebody like that? 988 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:12,640 Speaker 4: I don't think that that's impossible. Dolphins that Clint Kubiak, 989 00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:18,560 Speaker 4: Clint Kubiak, Yeah, there's some carryover system wise with Clint 990 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:23,439 Speaker 4: and Matt Lafleur and John. Eric Sullivan came from came 991 00:49:23,480 --> 00:49:25,640 Speaker 4: from Green Bay and had been with Lefloor and is 992 00:49:25,640 --> 00:49:28,640 Speaker 4: going to be comfortable with Clint Kubiak's vision and be 993 00:49:28,680 --> 00:49:31,279 Speaker 4: able to carry out Clint Kubiak's vision. I know one 994 00:49:31,320 --> 00:49:33,680 Speaker 4: of the things they're really looking for there is a 995 00:49:33,719 --> 00:49:36,680 Speaker 4: collaborative environment, you know, in their new structure, and so 996 00:49:36,760 --> 00:49:40,560 Speaker 4: Clint would make some sense for them. 997 00:49:40,760 --> 00:49:41,440 Speaker 6: One more. 998 00:49:43,400 --> 00:49:51,480 Speaker 4: Steelers Chris Sula wo Yeah, So I'm tempted to say 999 00:49:51,520 --> 00:49:52,680 Speaker 4: Marcus Freeman. 1000 00:49:52,320 --> 00:49:53,560 Speaker 5: By the way, but. 1001 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:57,080 Speaker 1: By his camp says he's not interested. You don't buy that. 1002 00:49:57,719 --> 00:49:59,480 Speaker 5: Yeah, I just think it's the one. 1003 00:50:00,040 --> 00:50:01,320 Speaker 4: I think it's the one of all of these like 1004 00:50:01,440 --> 00:50:05,399 Speaker 4: his Like so the Giants and Titans did pursue him, 1005 00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:09,520 Speaker 4: you know, and did gauge interest and talk to them 1006 00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 4: and everything else, and that was right when he agreed 1007 00:50:12,080 --> 00:50:15,160 Speaker 4: to stay at Notre Dame. I do think he has 1008 00:50:15,200 --> 00:50:18,640 Speaker 4: designs on coaching in the NFL. And let me ask 1009 00:50:18,680 --> 00:50:22,200 Speaker 4: you this, Colin. If Marcus Freeman right now were the 1010 00:50:22,200 --> 00:50:27,320 Speaker 4: defensive coordinator of say the Chargers, wouldn't he check every 1011 00:50:27,400 --> 00:50:30,279 Speaker 4: box as far as like a Steelers head coach, like 1012 00:50:30,320 --> 00:50:31,480 Speaker 4: what they generally look for. 1013 00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:35,640 Speaker 5: Absolutely, like he carries himself like a Steelers head coach. 1014 00:50:36,200 --> 00:50:37,880 Speaker 4: I think Chris Schule is the same, by the way, 1015 00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:40,200 Speaker 4: But Marcus Freeman would check a lot of boxes for 1016 00:50:40,239 --> 00:50:43,520 Speaker 4: the Steelers, just kind of that battleship commander that they've 1017 00:50:43,520 --> 00:50:46,759 Speaker 4: always had. I think Chris Shule, if you look at 1018 00:50:46,760 --> 00:50:50,000 Speaker 4: his background, right, and despite his last name, he's had 1019 00:50:50,040 --> 00:50:53,360 Speaker 4: to work his way up right and check boxes along 1020 00:50:53,400 --> 00:50:58,759 Speaker 4: the way. And Sean McVay, despite their relationship, really made 1021 00:50:58,840 --> 00:51:02,080 Speaker 4: Chris earn it there. And I can remember like when 1022 00:51:02,400 --> 00:51:05,759 Speaker 4: they promoted him, like that was not about like oh yeah, 1023 00:51:05,880 --> 00:51:07,680 Speaker 4: like you know, he's just been here long enough, we 1024 00:51:07,680 --> 00:51:09,319 Speaker 4: ought to give it to him, Like he really had 1025 00:51:09,320 --> 00:51:13,319 Speaker 4: to earn that job. I heard Shula's name connected to 1026 00:51:13,360 --> 00:51:15,359 Speaker 4: this deals before any of this happened, like two three 1027 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:18,920 Speaker 4: weeks ago. And if you think about like kind of 1028 00:51:18,960 --> 00:51:21,239 Speaker 4: what they've looked for and head coaches, maybe not the 1029 00:51:21,239 --> 00:51:24,680 Speaker 4: guy everybody's looking at, but somebody with a defensive background, 1030 00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,280 Speaker 4: who's got real presence, who carries himself like a battleship commander, 1031 00:51:28,600 --> 00:51:31,319 Speaker 4: who can handle the pressure of being Pittsburgh. I think 1032 00:51:31,400 --> 00:51:34,600 Speaker 4: Chris Shula to me, would check a lot of those boxes. 1033 00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:39,200 Speaker 4: And again, like I think this is somewhere too that 1034 00:51:39,480 --> 00:51:42,480 Speaker 4: having that last name probably doesn't hurt, and not that 1035 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,480 Speaker 4: it like you think he's going to be the next 1036 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:45,120 Speaker 4: don Shula. 1037 00:51:45,560 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 5: But this is the guy who's dealt with. 1038 00:51:47,560 --> 00:51:50,879 Speaker 4: Expectations his entire life, you know, because of that last name. 1039 00:51:50,960 --> 00:51:53,000 Speaker 5: So I think he would be a really interesting fit 1040 00:51:53,040 --> 00:51:53,759 Speaker 5: in Pittsburgh. 1041 00:51:53,880 --> 00:51:56,680 Speaker 6: Albert Breer Monday Morning quarterback. Great, see anybody? 1042 00:51:57,360 --> 00:51:57,919 Speaker 5: All right? Thanks? 1043 00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:04,160 Speaker 6: Going, Yeah, there's some interesting candidates for sure. 1044 00:52:06,800 --> 00:52:07,080 Speaker 9: Colin. 1045 00:52:07,120 --> 00:52:10,239 Speaker 8: He dropped like seven bombs there in that. I'm over here, 1046 00:52:10,280 --> 00:52:12,960 Speaker 8: like what, Marcus Freeman? 1047 00:52:14,320 --> 00:52:14,640 Speaker 9: Come on? 1048 00:52:15,120 --> 00:52:17,720 Speaker 8: You think The only scary thing, and I just texted 1049 00:52:17,719 --> 00:52:20,759 Speaker 8: my two Notre Dame people who are close to the program, 1050 00:52:21,120 --> 00:52:23,279 Speaker 8: is that the Steelers would give Marcus Freeman a huge 1051 00:52:23,360 --> 00:52:26,520 Speaker 8: runway right, who cares old roster no quarterback? 1052 00:52:26,520 --> 00:52:28,640 Speaker 1: Here meets your talent. Here's the other great thing about 1053 00:52:28,640 --> 00:52:32,640 Speaker 1: Marcus Freeman. They have a first, a second, three thirds, 1054 00:52:32,680 --> 00:52:38,480 Speaker 1: two fourths. Who knows college personnel. Marcus Freeman, just like Harball, 1055 00:52:38,520 --> 00:52:42,160 Speaker 1: goes to the Chargers back to back drafts. He knows 1056 00:52:42,239 --> 00:52:45,760 Speaker 1: he's recruited all these top guys. You get a huge 1057 00:52:46,080 --> 00:52:49,759 Speaker 1: I mean, if you go pure NFL guy, you don't 1058 00:52:49,760 --> 00:52:52,520 Speaker 1: get that. When you hire Harbaugh, you kind of get that. 1059 00:52:52,600 --> 00:52:55,520 Speaker 1: You hire Marcus Freeman, I guarantee you for the next 1060 00:52:55,520 --> 00:52:59,560 Speaker 1: two drafts. Marcus Freeman's gonna ace it. I know he 1061 00:52:59,600 --> 00:53:02,560 Speaker 1: knows the odometer on guys, not just the Senior Bowl. 1062 00:53:03,080 --> 00:53:05,399 Speaker 8: That would be a bigger shock to me than Tom 1063 00:53:05,520 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 8: Lennon Harball even combined. 1064 00:53:07,200 --> 00:53:08,960 Speaker 9: If Marcus Freeman left Notre Dame, would you take? 1065 00:53:09,000 --> 00:53:12,399 Speaker 3: Would you take? You tell me Notre Dame or the Steelers? 1066 00:53:12,800 --> 00:53:14,319 Speaker 8: I mean, Notre Dame is gonna be stacked next year. 1067 00:53:14,320 --> 00:53:16,279 Speaker 8: Their quarterback could be a top five fIF I'm not 1068 00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,839 Speaker 8: I would stay Notre Dame. But the Steelers they're gonna 1069 00:53:19,840 --> 00:53:22,280 Speaker 8: be okay being terrible for three years because the owners. 1070 00:53:22,280 --> 00:53:23,360 Speaker 3: They're not going to be terrible. 1071 00:53:23,719 --> 00:53:27,640 Speaker 8: Colin, your roster is garbage, dude, dude, dude. 1072 00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: A first, the second, three threes, two four with Marcus Freeman, all. 1073 00:53:31,920 --> 00:53:32,520 Speaker 3: You have to come. 1074 00:53:32,640 --> 00:53:33,799 Speaker 9: Who's QB one? 1075 00:53:33,840 --> 00:53:34,320 Speaker 3: That's away? 1076 00:53:34,480 --> 00:53:37,480 Speaker 1: By the way, New England three hundred million in cap space, 1077 00:53:37,920 --> 00:53:39,680 Speaker 1: seven draft picks shocking. 1078 00:53:40,160 --> 00:53:40,759 Speaker 2: They had drake me. 1079 00:53:41,480 --> 00:53:42,680 Speaker 9: Come on, drake me on this one. 1080 00:53:42,719 --> 00:53:44,480 Speaker 1: You're not going to be I mean, I bet you 1081 00:53:44,560 --> 00:53:47,040 Speaker 1: everything I've earned. You're not going to be terrible for 1082 00:53:47,080 --> 00:53:49,880 Speaker 1: three years with Marcus Freeman. That roster is going to 1083 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: turn over by the last but the last weekend of 1084 00:53:52,880 --> 00:53:55,800 Speaker 1: April you're gonna have seven new guys who can play. 1085 00:53:56,320 --> 00:53:58,520 Speaker 1: And then and then, by the way, now that you 1086 00:53:58,560 --> 00:54:01,480 Speaker 1: don't pay the quarterback, they're gonna have the most money. 1087 00:54:01,200 --> 00:54:01,880 Speaker 3: In the league. 1088 00:54:02,239 --> 00:54:04,320 Speaker 1: They're not paying it. They're gonna happen what New England 1089 00:54:04,320 --> 00:54:07,000 Speaker 1: did to their roster. Forget Drake may look at their roster. 1090 00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:09,600 Speaker 1: Last year, the Patriots had the worst receiving core in 1091 00:54:09,680 --> 00:54:12,360 Speaker 1: the league. Now it's like number three in big plays. 1092 00:54:12,719 --> 00:54:15,120 Speaker 1: Why they had money and draft picks. 1093 00:54:15,760 --> 00:54:18,040 Speaker 8: The other thing Briers said, by the way, he said 1094 00:54:18,160 --> 00:54:19,360 Speaker 8: Davis Webb as. 1095 00:54:19,200 --> 00:54:21,000 Speaker 9: A head coach, I almost fell out of my chair. 1096 00:54:21,000 --> 00:54:22,560 Speaker 9: I had to look up where Davis Webb. 1097 00:54:22,680 --> 00:54:25,560 Speaker 8: He's like a passing game coordinator for the Broncos what 1098 00:54:26,040 --> 00:54:27,959 Speaker 8: he was in the league like seven minutes ago. 1099 00:54:28,160 --> 00:54:30,240 Speaker 9: So Breer's on time. I love that stuff. 1100 00:54:30,400 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 8: I love the rumors in the scuttle, But oh juicy 1101 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,600 Speaker 8: in Chicago, it's third