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Speaker 1: Thank you for you're coming back. Part two is underway.

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Speaker 1: Samuel told you that you were terrible. No when I

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Speaker 1: ask you what was a question? I was going there

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Speaker 1: for a reason. I'm trying to give you great conscious

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Speaker 1: to help me. I'm dry fight night on Peacock. You

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Speaker 1: know what was your question that made me go there?

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Speaker 1: Though you we was riffing at the time, you.

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Speaker 2: Don't even remember the question to you, I neither this

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Speaker 2: means that this is great shade shade, Bro, I'm just

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Speaker 2: saying no, but but but what ended up happening, Bro,

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Speaker 2: was that I remember what it was. Semyel basically ended

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Speaker 2: up telling me later on in life, man, that I

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Speaker 2: deserved it. It's like, stop being because sometimes we hide

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Speaker 2: behind gratitude and all of that kind of stuff because

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Speaker 2: we're really scared, right because we're really shy, because we

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Speaker 2: really don't believe that we deserve.

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Speaker 3: To be here. And like, Bro, you deserve to be here.

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Speaker 2: I deserve to be here, and it's time to stand

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Speaker 2: in that greatness. That's one thing that TI has helped

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Speaker 2: me with. Man, like Tip tell me that all the time, Bro,

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Speaker 2: like man, period, everybody good or bad. If we really

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Speaker 2: believe that God is the only thing that can judge

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Speaker 2: us what you do is you don't be so ego

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Speaker 2: driven that you don't listen. But you fix it. And

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Speaker 2: if you know that you fixed it, you know that

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Speaker 2: you repented, let that shit go and live.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: And I just got to the point in my life

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Speaker 2: while I'm doing that, Man, I'm so happy. And Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm got to be honest with you. Man, I'm probably

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Speaker 2: one of the few people on this planet that.

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Speaker 3: Look at me.

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Speaker 2: I don't I actually bro one thing that I am

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Speaker 2: proud of. Man, And I don't even know that after

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Speaker 2: this interview is actually gonna be power and it's actually

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Speaker 2: gonna be possible shinning. I'm actually slightly at Demi God level.

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Speaker 2: And if I get any more sexier than I am

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Speaker 2: right now, I think I'm a busting a pure light.

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Speaker 2: I think I'm gonna transcend the physical form and just

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Speaker 2: turning the light. And I think you can understand that

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Speaker 2: you were really close to it at one point, but

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Speaker 2: I think you got too much into the brolic thing.

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Speaker 2: It's a little bit more than that. It's mental too.

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Speaker 2: You got to add that to it, dog, And I

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Speaker 2: think you just let it all go. I am I

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Speaker 2: looked that good act.

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Speaker 3: You fans the female Shannon, don't be afraid of this.

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Speaker 3: Bro has just happened.

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Speaker 2: You got to get back. Don't lose that with that, bro,

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Speaker 2: justyr you know who you are.

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Speaker 3: You don't lose that. Absolutely yea, just know it.

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Speaker 1: The song like a pimpy.

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Speaker 2: Ho No way, you came straight from what I just

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Speaker 2: said to like him? Yet did you do that on purpose?

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Speaker 2: It was it just serendipity. See that's a humble man.

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Speaker 2: He did that purpose.

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Speaker 3: He's a genius. Good and I'm listening like a pimp.

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Speaker 1: Tyree said that song did for you with a Coca

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Speaker 1: Cola commercial did for him. It opened the door. It

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Speaker 1: got you to the because you were David Banner. But

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Speaker 1: this song and then you know, people call you when

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Speaker 1: you get the p how people call you and want

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Speaker 1: to you know, I want to sample your songs like

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Speaker 1: a pimp.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 3: Tyrese is a slip because I.

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Speaker 2: Saw him right before on the plane before that interview,

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Speaker 2: and he told me that bro Terrese said, Bro, he said, Banner,

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Speaker 2: you got to think about it sometimes in life, all

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Speaker 2: you think about how many nose that we all see.

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Speaker 2: And I'm saying for everybody. Absolutely, Oh you need is one. Yes,

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Speaker 2: that's it. And he told me that he bro he said,

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Speaker 2: I'm still living off the Coca Cola commercial, he said,

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Speaker 2: And you still living off like a pimp. That's why

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Speaker 2: I don't let people separate me from gangster rap And

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Speaker 2: no matter how blessed I am, no matter how smart

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Speaker 2: I become, I'm still a gangster rapper because I'd rather

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Speaker 2: you keep me at my lowest. So no matter how

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Speaker 2: does that very well? Yeah, I'm steal a gangster rapper.

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Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: Because they try to make you, you know, this high

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Speaker 2: faluting political person and really, Shannon, you are a great

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Speaker 2: example of that. They just and it goes back to

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Speaker 2: something you love so much. They just really want to

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Speaker 3: But a slaughter. I don't really love you. I ain't

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Speaker 2: Let's get them as high as we possibly can so

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Speaker 2: we can get more ratings off the fall, right. I

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Speaker 2: don't do that. I told somebody today. Sometimes people think

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Speaker 2: and excuse me. I know you don't want me to

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Speaker 2: say this, but I tell my PR team that's sometimes

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Speaker 2: I up on purpose. I'd rather help me control it

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Speaker 2: because I know what I'm doing, I know why I'm

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Speaker 2: doing it, so that they can't make me into this characterture.

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Speaker 2: They try to make us into a characterture so they

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Speaker 2: can literally assassinate our personalities, our lives. And what they

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Speaker 2: don't understand, man, is like our grandparents see that shit,

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Speaker 2: our mothers see that shit, our children see that shit, bro,

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Speaker 2: and that shit hurt. And a lot of times we're

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Speaker 2: not enough men. We're not men enough to admit that

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Speaker 2: that shit didn't feel good.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: There was somebody, man, and I'm gonna say this because

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Speaker 2: I want that person to see it. She said some

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Speaker 2: shit about me, Bro, it didn't feel good. And then

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Speaker 2: they called me to a show and I told the people.

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Speaker 2: I told them white folks like I just want to

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Speaker 2: be clear and I want her to know that she

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Speaker 2: hurt my feelings because I'm enough, man, and I'm tough

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Speaker 2: enough to be able to say it now. But I'm

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Speaker 2: not coming on your show smiling in your face and

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Speaker 2: you said what you said about me. I'm not gonna

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Speaker 2: do nothing. I'm not mad at you. I don't judge you.

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Speaker 2: Shit won't cool, though, and that shit hurt me. I

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Speaker 2: want you to know that it hurt me, because that's men.

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Speaker 2: A lot of times with gang violence, with a lot

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Speaker 2: of stuff, A lot of times to be over stuff

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Speaker 2: we play like it's over dope and street shit.

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Speaker 3: What a lot of times our.

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Speaker 2: Feelings just be hurt and we're not articulate enough. We

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Speaker 2: haven't been taught enough. We don't have enough men to

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Speaker 2: process the fact man, that you hurt my feelings. I

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Speaker 2: just had a like twenty year relationship come to an end.

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Speaker 2: It's because we both couldn't say, hey, Bro, misunderstand you.

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Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Bro.

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Speaker 2: We both gotten so high and was bosses and all

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Speaker 2: this kind of shit. We wouldn't have done that shit

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Speaker 2: when we was in college.

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Speaker 3: On't me right?

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Speaker 2: But like, man, I'm trying to be the example of

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Speaker 2: a black man BRO that can say, Bro, I made

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Speaker 2: a mistake, or to be the black man and be

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Speaker 2: able to say, hey, Bro, I may not agree with

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Speaker 2: some of the decisions that you make, Bro, but it's good.

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Speaker 3: We're still here for you. Bro. Let's talk about it.

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Speaker 2: Cause Bro, to be honest with you, we got an opportunity, man,

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Speaker 2: while we still living and you know this, Bro, grandparents

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Speaker 2: told us we on this side of the dirt, bro.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: Somebody asked me, man, how does it feel that hip

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Speaker 2: hop is in the situation that it's in? You know?

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Speaker 2: I said, Man, I'm still living. I'm still living. You

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Speaker 2: still living, bro. We got an opportunity to do this shit, bro,

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Speaker 2: and I'm just so grateful man to be alive during

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Speaker 2: these times. This is the best time in history man,

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Speaker 2: to change the world.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: Yeah uh, Beyonce incorporated like a pimp to cowboy carda tour.

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Speaker 3: Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: When someone and I had I've had I've had two chains,

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Speaker 1: I've had LLL. I had a couple of guys, a

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Speaker 1: couple of people on It's like when people say, I'm like, well,

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Speaker 1: how do you call LLL?

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Speaker 2: Just so you know, because I needed some leadership and

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Speaker 2: me being this sexy because I had not always been

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Speaker 2: this hour country dude and you know rusty Lips and

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Speaker 2: you know, just I didn't understand much about fashion. But

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Speaker 2: once I got it together, I actually literally call Ler.

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Speaker 2: I'm dead serious, right y'all think I'm joking, but.

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Speaker 3: I really did call LF.

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Speaker 2: I was like, hey, bro, like, because I'm used to

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Speaker 2: street ship, right like, Bro, this this sexy shit is.

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Speaker 2: Actually we had a whole and he actually brought it.

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Speaker 2: And I tell you, broh, I think he cool with this, bro,

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Speaker 2: he told me, he said better it's like brou if

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Speaker 2: it makes me, if it makes me laugh, then do it.

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Speaker 2: And I never thought about that, bro, Like, think about it.

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Speaker 4: Bro.

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Speaker 2: If if it makes you laugh, then women gonna chuckle.

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Speaker 2: He said, Brother, don't take yourself so seriously, but go beack.

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Speaker 2: I just want to say thank you LLL.

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Speaker 1: When people sample your music, do you do they have

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Speaker 1: to play it for you?

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Speaker 3: Play what they're gonna do over your track? Or do

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Speaker 3: you like? Okay, cool to the check. If you just

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Speaker 3: send a check, then you saw your soul.

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Speaker 2: Like what I try not to do is judge children,

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Speaker 2: because our parents judge does. But it's just certain shit

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Speaker 2: that you I don't want you to say all my

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Speaker 2: music okay, And you got to understand who I am

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Speaker 2: and the things that I've said, So I'm not as

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Speaker 2: judgmental as most people.

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Speaker 3: It's still a spiritual.

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Speaker 2: Thing and to a certain degree, we have to have

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Speaker 3: See when people hear.

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Speaker 2: The word sold out, bro, if you would do anything

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Speaker 2: for money, you saw your so But what I will say, Man,

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Speaker 2: I'm so grateful for these children, bro, because Like a

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Speaker 2: Pimp wasn't where I made most of my money from.

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Speaker 2: But now, Bro, it's it's just becoming the second highest

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Speaker 2: grossest thing, grossing thing in my life, man, And that's

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Speaker 2: just a testament. Tell your quick story. The song that

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Speaker 2: came after Like a Pimp was Cadillac on twenty two's

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Speaker 2: and I'm a hit maker and a lot of people

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Speaker 2: don't always wonder, like why did you put that song

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Speaker 2: out after Like a Pimp?

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Speaker 3: You could have put another Like a.

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Speaker 2: Pimp out and just will I prayed to God, Bro,

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Speaker 2: if God would allow me to make it without selling

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Speaker 2: dope or without having to have a dope dealer behind me,

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Speaker 2: that I would praise his name.

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Speaker 3: Bro. I did it.

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Speaker 2: And so when Like a Pimp came out, I didn't

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Speaker 2: know if I would ever have another song again, especially

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Speaker 2: being from the South, and so I said I better

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Speaker 2: pay God back. So if you remember Cadillac on twenty two's,

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Speaker 2: it's like Cadillac on it was like God, I know

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Speaker 2: that we pimp God, I know that we're wrong God.

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Speaker 2: I know I should talk about more than all of

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Speaker 2: my songs. I know these kids are listening. I know

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Speaker 2: it's here. I know I'm here for a mission, but

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Speaker 2: it's so hard to get them between two his rooms

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Speaker 2: with Cadillac's on twenty two's I Ain't did nothing in

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Speaker 2: my life but stay true. Pimped my voice and macked

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Speaker 2: That song was actually a prayer.

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Speaker 2: And like David and like psalms, that was my prayer

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 1: You know, I want to know what the money at music, Coulse. Everybody,

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Speaker 3: No more? Is it? Is it been writing? Is it producing?

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Speaker 3: Is it? What is it?

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Speaker 2: Where the money, the money in music is stopped begging

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Speaker 2: Look at you, bro, Like I know, Shanny, you don't

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Speaker 3: Bro, But like they would.

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Speaker 2: Have crushed you if you didn't have your own show. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: That don't exist. Bro, You still gotta work. You got to, bro, man,

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Speaker 2: So put your own stuff out, create your own stuff.

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Speaker 2: Fans are looking for fans will listen to you, Bro.

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Speaker 1: Are they afraid because it's it's easier. Somebody go cut

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Speaker 1: mitcheck because you have to look at it. Are you

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Speaker 1: my situation?

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Speaker 3: This is me?

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Speaker 2: Watch this. You're gonna answer the question for you. I

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I almost whooped this white boy for what I'm about

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Speaker 2: to tell you. Okay, it's high high level Xerox at

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Speaker 2: He said, Are you a slave or a slave owner?

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Speaker 3: Now.

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Speaker 2: He did preference it by saying, if you're a slave owner,

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Speaker 3: And I never thought about that.

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Speaker 2: And now, because I'm black, I wanted to put my

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Speaker 2: it's like, yeah, we do want that check, Bro, but

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Speaker 2: it's sort of like when fifty told them folks, I'd

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Speaker 2: rather take that stock option. It ended up being what

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Speaker 3: You could be talent, you could be owner.

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Speaker 2: But even from a tax perspective, bro Celo tried to

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Speaker 3: Jenny Yeah, Dennie yeah.

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Speaker 2: Bro, And so like man for me, Bro, I just

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Speaker 2: I'm just grateful. And Shannon, I'm not joking. It's somebody

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Speaker 2: is because, Bro, people check Chase the light, and what

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Speaker 2: if I would have took that opportunity when I didn't

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Speaker 3: Blew my load right.

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Speaker 2: And I really really think, because I'm looking at you,

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Speaker 2: I think you needed me to be here. Yeah, you

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Speaker 2: know what I'm saying, And I'm glad that I took

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Speaker 2: it now, man. But like to be real with you, man,

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Speaker 2: I'm just grateful man that people will allow me like

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Like I know I'm edgy, I know I'm a lot

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Speaker 2: to deal with, man, But like, as much as people

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Speaker 2: talked about Christ, Man, the same people that y'all say

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Speaker 2: that y'all love was the people that Christ fought against,

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Speaker 2: same people that put them up on the cross. Jesus

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Speaker 2: didn't mess with nothing but wors Bro in the streets.

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Speaker 3: Bro. He went in the church to flip tables over. Bro.

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Speaker 2: But the crazy thing about our community is anytime somebody

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Speaker 3: And so Man, I just try to.

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Speaker 2: Find a happy medium in between telling the truth because

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Speaker 2: I can't. But that's the only thing that helped me

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Speaker 2: sleep at night is helping others. Yeah, Bro, it was

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Speaker 2: at one point in this interview, Bro.

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Speaker 3: Because I saw that you needed it. Bro.

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Speaker 2: And whether it's my ego or it's the truth, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm just happy to be brave enough to do what

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Speaker 2: I'm told.

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Speaker 1: You know, we appreciate you coming you produce for Lil

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Speaker 1: Wayne t I, Chris Brown from a room five, Quincy

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Speaker 1: Jones Snoop Dogg, pimp Sy Looter.

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Speaker 2: Hey, hold on, man, how you just gonna go past

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Speaker 2: Quincy Jones?

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Speaker 3: Like that? Help me out?

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Speaker 2: Shting Quincy Jones again?

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Speaker 3: Quincy Jones, what did he did? Didn't he do thriller

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Speaker 3: for Mike Man with Frank Sinadre Rachel with it cuting?

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Speaker 1: I mean, there are a lot of producers out there,

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Speaker 1: but it's hard to be Hey.

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Speaker 3: Too many people on this planet producers big.

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Speaker 1: That's what I said. That same if we were to

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Speaker 3: Man?

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Speaker 2: I heard somebody talking that ship, Bro, like to even

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Speaker 2: think you're worthy of that? The ship that Quincy Jones

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Speaker 2: is done?

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Speaker 3: Bro, he got his range. You got too much of

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Speaker 3: a range. And in between.

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Speaker 2: Classical music, Bro, the scoring movies.

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Speaker 3: Most people don't know.

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Speaker 2: His TV shows talk that ship. But what I what

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Speaker 2: I will say, man, is that me and Warren Campbell.

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Speaker 3: You should go to this church. Warren Campbell, I don't.

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Speaker 2: But we we had a production company together, and Quincy

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Speaker 2: Jones told us.

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Speaker 3: Or said to one.

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Speaker 2: Of his his liaisons that when we were producing for

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Speaker 2: enough to take his music and digest it and spit

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Speaker 2: it back. He was like, if he wanted it to

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Speaker 2: sound like him, like, you can't do it. I do

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Speaker 2: first of all, And that's how we looked at it.

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Speaker 2: It would be disrespectful for me to try to do

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Speaker 2: that's that's that's one of the things I had as

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Speaker 2: an artist from Mississippi. His name is Coke Boumaye, and

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Speaker 2: this dude is much younger than me, but this dude

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Speaker 2: is bro. He's way beyond his age. He talks like

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Speaker 2: I got grandparent like your grandparents. And he told me,

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Speaker 2: he said, man, you gotta start popping your ship. He

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Speaker 2: said that people will forget about you in the way

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Speaker 2: that this culture is bro. They'll take your ship from you.

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Speaker 3: Brom hm.

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Speaker 2: So like, I just start learning how to tell people

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Speaker 2: a little bit more. And I'm grateful that you brought

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Speaker 2: that up, man, because I've done things that nobody has

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Speaker 2: ever done in history. But our parents taught us man

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Speaker 2: to so called be humble yeah, but I believe because

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Speaker 2: you're in sports. I don't believe in being humble. If

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Speaker 2: his stats, if Jordan told you he has six rings,

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Speaker 2: is that popping or capping? Right?

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Speaker 3: That's factchut. Absolutely, I am great.

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Speaker 2: I just hate that my people don't know how great

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Speaker 2: I am.

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Speaker 3: It hurts, bro, because.

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Speaker 2: Bro, when I when when I got my Grammy nod

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Speaker 2: with Wayne, I literally came home Shannon, And I'm serious, Bro,

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Speaker 2: I'm not bullshiting you.

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Speaker 3: I said it out loud. We did it. I don't

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Speaker 3: want nobody there. Let me ask you this.

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Speaker 1: If you did something that you thought was special and

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Speaker 2: I don't know, Bro. Bro, I'm from Mississippi. Bro, I

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Speaker 2: just started loving myself. I never Bro, I never thought

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Speaker 2: I made it. I'm serious, Shannon, I'm not joking. I

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: Like it's funny because somebody on your staff knows a

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: We went through his studio and Bro, when I got

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Speaker 2: that ten million dollar deal, Bro' a little short white,

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Speaker 2: long haired dude. He just hugged me. He said, Berner,

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Speaker 2: go buy you a car. Bro, I'm still rinting cars,

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Speaker 2: fronting why you somewhere to stay? Man, get you some clothes.

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Speaker 2: You made it dun't. And I was just standing there,

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Speaker 2: Bro and mumbling like I couldn't stop.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: They teach us, Bro to work like like we will.

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Speaker 2: We will correlate our success with how hard we work

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Speaker 2: like slaves, domg. We got to learn how to think,

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Speaker 2: We got to learn how to set up systems. But

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Speaker 2: But we addicted to that feeling.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: We've been trained in that trauma, Bro, and it's the

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I really think God put me in Mississippi for that reason.

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I think I had this bully body, bro like I was.

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Speaker 2: I didn't get this body bro to I was in

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Speaker 2: have played football. I didn't get big bro until my

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Speaker 3: Bro.

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Speaker 2: I fight, I beat up the bullies, can't stand the

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Speaker 2: bully hommy. I really think that's why God gave me

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Speaker 2: this body is to protect the weak. And I think

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Speaker 2: and then you take this power and use it against

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Speaker 3: Bro, I'm so fortunate. Bro.

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Speaker 2: That's the reason why I don't do VIP. That's the

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Speaker 2: I be trying to tell my friends that I be

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Speaker 2: trying to tell people that. Man, Like, one of my

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Speaker 2: like you're so angry all the time. And then I

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Speaker 2: digested it and I thought about it, Shannon. The only

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Speaker 2: I made it. I mean I got a lot of bread,

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Speaker 2: Like I only fight for the week, Bro. That shit

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Speaker 2: people that come from places we come from, Bro, how'd

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Speaker 3: How'd you be?

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Speaker 1: T I because it's interesting because you have such an

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Speaker 3: I mean, you got rappers and you got Snoop Dogg.

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Speaker 1: Excuse me, you got you did Quincy Jones, risk and

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Speaker 1: soul and then you go to yeah, you got Snoop

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Speaker 1: two chains a con But but if you look at okay,

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Speaker 1: Maroon five and TI and the way it ate the claim,

441
00:21:44,840 --> 00:21:47,639
Speaker 1: and then you got Q and then you got Nel.

442
00:21:47,920 --> 00:21:48,560
Speaker 3: Yeah.

443
00:21:48,920 --> 00:21:50,560
Speaker 2: Well with me and t I is a little bit

444
00:21:50,560 --> 00:21:53,560
Speaker 2: different because he came early. Like if you think about it, Bro,

445
00:21:53,680 --> 00:21:57,000
Speaker 2: like I was so blessed because what people don't know

446
00:21:57,320 --> 00:22:01,840
Speaker 2: was is I produced the holiday for Trick Daddy, but

447
00:22:01,880 --> 00:22:04,520
Speaker 2: nobody knew who David Banner was at the time, so

448
00:22:04,560 --> 00:22:06,280
Speaker 2: I wasn't able to take advantage.

449
00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,679
Speaker 3: I was even in the video.

450
00:22:08,440 --> 00:22:13,080
Speaker 2: But TI I is the person who allowed me to

451
00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:17,800
Speaker 2: be a million dollar producer, like rubber band Man.

452
00:22:17,760 --> 00:22:19,800
Speaker 3: Change the texture.

453
00:22:20,240 --> 00:22:23,320
Speaker 2: He's also and people want admit this. He's the reason

454
00:22:23,320 --> 00:22:27,040
Speaker 2: why producers can put their tags on their beat on

455
00:22:27,119 --> 00:22:30,600
Speaker 2: the radio. Because my tag was on my beats way

456
00:22:30,640 --> 00:22:32,879
Speaker 2: before Rubber band Man, but the radio.

457
00:22:32,640 --> 00:22:34,000
Speaker 3: Stations would shave it off.

458
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:37,440
Speaker 2: T I called up the hot in Atlanta and said,

459
00:22:37,480 --> 00:22:40,760
Speaker 2: don't touch my music. That boy worked hard because the

460
00:22:40,800 --> 00:22:43,000
Speaker 2: reason why I put my tag on my beat, Bro,

461
00:22:43,080 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 2: And I think this is what the tag tag is

462
00:22:45,240 --> 00:22:47,159
Speaker 2: like when you put your name before the beat. Okay,

463
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,560
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, like David David David Banner.

464
00:22:49,640 --> 00:22:51,439
Speaker 2: The only reason why I did that is because I

465
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:56,080
Speaker 2: noticed Jay Z would say, Kanye, you a fool, fool fool,

466
00:22:56,520 --> 00:22:58,880
Speaker 2: just blaze you did it again every time he would

467
00:22:58,880 --> 00:23:01,920
Speaker 2: say their name. They could charged ten thousand dollars extra. Right,

468
00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,680
Speaker 2: Southern rappers hit their producers like Bro, like it hurts

469
00:23:07,720 --> 00:23:10,240
Speaker 2: me to this day. Koc from Beasts by the Pound

470
00:23:10,880 --> 00:23:14,440
Speaker 2: as big as No Limit was. Don't nobody know who

471
00:23:14,440 --> 00:23:17,159
Speaker 2: they are? Bro, And they's some of my mentors. And

472
00:23:17,200 --> 00:23:18,000
Speaker 2: I hate the fact.

473
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:18,160
Speaker 3: Bro.

474
00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:21,240
Speaker 2: I really think Beats by the Pound as big as

475
00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,080
Speaker 2: timbling and for real because they changed music in the

476
00:23:24,080 --> 00:23:26,720
Speaker 2: same way use people do, but we don't know who

477
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:29,600
Speaker 2: they are. And since I saw that, I said, I'm

478
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,440
Speaker 2: not gonna let them like look over me. I'm gonna

479
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:35,080
Speaker 2: put my own name before my beat, right and Bro,

480
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:38,119
Speaker 2: it got so hot at one time, Bro, And people

481
00:23:38,119 --> 00:23:40,520
Speaker 2: don't even get me credit for that, Like people can

482
00:23:40,560 --> 00:23:43,399
Speaker 2: say whatever they want to you first. I think I

483
00:23:43,480 --> 00:23:44,840
Speaker 2: was one of the first pray people to put my

484
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,240
Speaker 2: name before a beat, but nobody made it hot in

485
00:23:47,280 --> 00:23:49,000
Speaker 2: contemporary America like I did.

486
00:23:49,119 --> 00:23:49,359
Speaker 3: Bro.

487
00:23:50,160 --> 00:23:52,399
Speaker 2: So when everybody put their name before they beat, and

488
00:23:52,440 --> 00:23:55,680
Speaker 2: they don't say nothing to me. That's what I'm supposed

489
00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:57,639
Speaker 2: to do, But I am still in the flesh. You

490
00:23:57,680 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 2: will feel good for you to acknowledge the person who

491
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:02,400
Speaker 2: allowed you to do the shit that you.

492
00:24:02,440 --> 00:24:03,400
Speaker 3: Do to this day.

493
00:24:04,240 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: But t I man like he changed and for some reason, Man,

494
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:12,439
Speaker 2: every level of my life, we keep coming back together.

495
00:24:13,480 --> 00:24:17,320
Speaker 2: And Man, I'm so appreciative of who he is and

496
00:24:18,400 --> 00:24:21,960
Speaker 2: like my bro. Actually, they tried to put him on

497
00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:24,840
Speaker 2: the cross and they tried to crucify him, and he

498
00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 2: stood b I'm like, if there was one person on

499
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:35,680
Speaker 2: this planet that I could say resilience, I don't think

500
00:24:35,680 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 2: there's no man in the music industry that's as resilient

501
00:24:38,640 --> 00:24:39,520
Speaker 2: as t II is.

502
00:24:39,560 --> 00:24:39,760
Speaker 3: Bro.

503
00:24:40,960 --> 00:24:43,600
Speaker 2: And every day to get up and he keep going.

504
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:45,000
Speaker 2: People don't even think.

505
00:24:45,040 --> 00:24:45,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

506
00:24:45,560 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 2: He shared his whole career and became conscious in front

507
00:24:48,280 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 2: of everybody and put a conscious album out. He didn't

508
00:24:51,040 --> 00:24:53,040
Speaker 2: just talk that shit. A lot of did that shit

509
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,840
Speaker 2: bro to be cool because it was the woke moment.

510
00:24:56,320 --> 00:24:58,199
Speaker 2: T I did that shit and put his career on

511
00:24:58,280 --> 00:24:58,720
Speaker 2: the line.

512
00:24:58,800 --> 00:24:59,000
Speaker 3: BRO.

513
00:25:00,320 --> 00:25:04,359
Speaker 2: When he first came out with his first album, I'm serious, Bro,

514
00:25:04,960 --> 00:25:07,000
Speaker 2: he told the motherfuckers let me go. He went back

515
00:25:07,000 --> 00:25:09,879
Speaker 2: to the streets and built itself back up again.

516
00:25:10,040 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 3: Bro.

517
00:25:11,320 --> 00:25:14,280
Speaker 2: My bro ain't perfect, Bro, But Tip try, Bro. He

518
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 2: tried so hard all the time and he and he's

519
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:21,520
Speaker 2: so tough. You'll never be able to see that part

520
00:25:21,520 --> 00:25:24,320
Speaker 2: of what Bro try. And for the first time in

521
00:25:24,359 --> 00:25:27,159
Speaker 2: his life, I think he cared, yeah, and he not

522
00:25:27,359 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 2: used to that.

523
00:25:27,880 --> 00:25:30,600
Speaker 3: He didn't come from that environment. And I'm watching.

524
00:25:30,280 --> 00:25:34,480
Speaker 2: Him process the fact that he cared about shit and

525
00:25:34,520 --> 00:25:35,840
Speaker 2: then that make you human again?

526
00:25:35,920 --> 00:25:39,400
Speaker 3: What the you do with that ship? Like what I'm serious?

527
00:25:39,440 --> 00:25:39,720
Speaker 2: Dog?

528
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:41,080
Speaker 3: That's how I feel now?

529
00:25:41,160 --> 00:25:43,040
Speaker 2: Like why am I getting depressed?

530
00:25:43,640 --> 00:25:48,040
Speaker 3: Hey? Dog? The ship we used to do with? What

531
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:50,840
Speaker 3: this ship is? Feelings right, you know?

532
00:25:51,320 --> 00:25:57,080
Speaker 2: And I'm just grateful man that me and him still friends, right,

533
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:01,440
Speaker 2: and that I call Bro. It ain't been one time

534
00:26:01,440 --> 00:26:04,800
Speaker 2: that I ever called Tip. He didn't show up for me, bro, wow,

535
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:09,480
Speaker 2: And I'm grateful to like when they did. The death

536
00:26:09,520 --> 00:26:12,840
Speaker 2: of Auto Tune, I never knew and t pain is

537
00:26:12,880 --> 00:26:13,280
Speaker 2: my friend.

538
00:26:13,320 --> 00:26:15,760
Speaker 3: Bro. They were children, And.

539
00:26:15,680 --> 00:26:17,800
Speaker 2: I'm not saying that you're right or wrong with your

540
00:26:18,080 --> 00:26:22,359
Speaker 2: do a child like that, Bro, And what I'm saying

541
00:26:22,440 --> 00:26:25,679
Speaker 2: is even when we wrong, look at how white folks

542
00:26:25,720 --> 00:26:29,480
Speaker 2: do Trump, what Trump can say that dumbest shit on

543
00:26:29,520 --> 00:26:32,199
Speaker 2: this planet. White folks gonna protect them. They may have

544
00:26:32,240 --> 00:26:35,560
Speaker 2: another conversation with him later on why we can't do that,

545
00:26:35,880 --> 00:26:37,919
Speaker 2: But it's like now black media has got to the

546
00:26:37,960 --> 00:26:40,800
Speaker 2: point where the same way, and it's from the places

547
00:26:40,800 --> 00:26:42,760
Speaker 2: that we're from. And I'm looking you in your eyes shining,

548
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:44,760
Speaker 2: and when I say this, shit, when you look at

549
00:26:44,800 --> 00:26:48,640
Speaker 2: when they used to hang black folks in trees, then

550
00:26:48,640 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: you see black folks on the outskirts. Same thing they

551
00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,959
Speaker 2: did to Jesus. You say that you knew that he

552
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:57,000
Speaker 2: was the son of Jesus, and you didn't do shit,

553
00:26:57,119 --> 00:27:00,760
Speaker 2: you coward? How dare you pray it his name? When

554
00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,200
Speaker 2: he did you let him sit up there on that cross.

555
00:27:03,560 --> 00:27:07,320
Speaker 2: The same thing with that child, You let them crucify

556
00:27:07,400 --> 00:27:12,439
Speaker 2: that child, and you did nothing, you hope. That's what

557
00:27:12,480 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 2: I believe, And that's why I don't really believe in

558
00:27:14,320 --> 00:27:16,359
Speaker 2: the music industry. I don't really believe the folks are

559
00:27:16,359 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: on my friend. As much as I care about the

560
00:27:19,280 --> 00:27:21,640
Speaker 2: situations that I'm in, bro, I know you folks don't

561
00:27:21,680 --> 00:27:22,240
Speaker 2: care about me.

562
00:27:23,080 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 3: Understand that, because if.

563
00:27:24,880 --> 00:27:26,919
Speaker 2: They did that to Jesus, what do you think they

564
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 2: do to my Mississippi country ass dog? So what I realized, man,

565
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:35,880
Speaker 2: is that The thing that I did realize is, though, man,

566
00:27:36,000 --> 00:27:42,720
Speaker 2: is that like the men, those of us who were around, Bro,

567
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:44,720
Speaker 2: we could have stepped up more right.

568
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: Bro.

569
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:50,240
Speaker 2: Think about the NFL players, BRO, how strong you all are,

570
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,240
Speaker 2: but they put y'all in the situation Bro, where y'all

571
00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,880
Speaker 2: be in cities where the most impoverished Black people are

572
00:27:56,280 --> 00:27:58,720
Speaker 2: and they don't even let you around with your people.

573
00:27:58,760 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 3: Bro. I see that more on the NBA. BRO. Like BRO,

574
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:05,360
Speaker 3: I had an opportunity. My best friend lived in Portland.

575
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:10,800
Speaker 2: Bro. They don't like black people being around the hood. Bro.

576
00:28:12,480 --> 00:28:15,000
Speaker 2: Basketball and what we've done for basketball. But I don't

577
00:28:15,000 --> 00:28:18,840
Speaker 2: never see no black kids in NBA cares.

578
00:28:18,920 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 3: I don't.

579
00:28:20,400 --> 00:28:21,920
Speaker 2: I'm honest with what I see.

580
00:28:22,040 --> 00:28:22,240
Speaker 3: BRO.

581
00:28:23,240 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 2: There's no artists I've ever worked with in my life,

582
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:28,280
Speaker 2: and I don't look at any one of these cameras.

583
00:28:28,760 --> 00:28:32,400
Speaker 2: I have not met anybody more talented than that young man. BRO.

584
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:35,200
Speaker 3: I am a producer. I am not a beat maker.

585
00:28:35,680 --> 00:28:37,880
Speaker 2: When I was stopped to beat for Chris Brown, Chris

586
00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,880
Speaker 2: Brown to say, I know, you know, you know, it's

587
00:28:40,920 --> 00:28:44,920
Speaker 2: an infinite amount of things you don't know he knew, Wow,

588
00:28:45,840 --> 00:28:53,440
Speaker 2: and Bro, Like, the reason why Chris Brown, I'm not

589
00:28:53,560 --> 00:28:55,960
Speaker 2: saying this and I gotta be careful with my words.

590
00:28:57,600 --> 00:29:03,040
Speaker 2: The reason why he's not on a Prince Michael Jackson level,

591
00:29:04,080 --> 00:29:08,240
Speaker 2: it's because he chose his manhood over his music. And

592
00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:11,760
Speaker 2: you can't blame on for that. Bro just wanted to

593
00:29:11,800 --> 00:29:14,960
Speaker 2: be respected as a man. Bro never really had men

594
00:29:15,000 --> 00:29:15,479
Speaker 2: around him.

595
00:29:15,560 --> 00:29:18,320
Speaker 3: Dude. I don't blame a little bro for that. Bro.

596
00:29:18,400 --> 00:29:23,920
Speaker 2: And it's hard, dude, Like, that's one thing man Like.

597
00:29:23,960 --> 00:29:26,680
Speaker 2: It's the craziest thing for me as an entertainer. Dude. Like,

598
00:29:27,200 --> 00:29:31,960
Speaker 2: even from a woman perspective, I remember when I made play.

599
00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:34,880
Speaker 2: There's a difference between you being a hunter and then

600
00:29:35,000 --> 00:29:38,400
Speaker 2: all the women decide you sexy and then they after

601
00:29:38,480 --> 00:29:42,120
Speaker 2: you and then you become an object. Bro, I never

602
00:29:42,160 --> 00:29:43,959
Speaker 2: talked to That was hard for me to deal with. Like,

603
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:46,320
Speaker 2: I'm not used to it. I'm used to hunting. Don't

604
00:29:46,320 --> 00:29:48,360
Speaker 2: make it easy for me, woman, you know what I mean.

605
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 2: And we don't have therapy for that because most people

606
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 2: from where we're from ain't never seen what we've seen. Bro,

607
00:29:57,600 --> 00:30:00,840
Speaker 2: Chris from the South, Bro, people forget that the boy

608
00:30:00,840 --> 00:30:05,360
Speaker 2: from the South, from the country too. He dealt with

609
00:30:05,400 --> 00:30:11,320
Speaker 2: that shit alone. So however, it was bro like and

610
00:30:11,400 --> 00:30:14,520
Speaker 2: I just wish man. I'll never forget when Chris got

611
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:17,800
Speaker 2: his first tattoo, Bro, some of the people in the

612
00:30:17,880 --> 00:30:20,720
Speaker 2: label knew me and his relationship, and they called me

613
00:30:20,840 --> 00:30:25,920
Speaker 2: up there. Chris hid under the guests, Bro, so I

614
00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:28,760
Speaker 2: was coming and I remember telling him, Bro, you a kid,

615
00:30:29,240 --> 00:30:30,880
Speaker 2: be a kid as long as you can.

616
00:30:31,240 --> 00:30:31,920
Speaker 3: And I'm serious.

617
00:30:31,960 --> 00:30:34,480
Speaker 2: I told him this, bro, get that Disney money, because

618
00:30:34,480 --> 00:30:38,440
Speaker 2: once you've grown, you can't ever come back. But he

619
00:30:38,600 --> 00:30:40,760
Speaker 2: wanted to be a man, and he chose that, Bro,

620
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:42,840
Speaker 2: and I can't blame him for that.

621
00:30:43,520 --> 00:30:46,080
Speaker 3: Wow, you mentioned Nellie's Tip Drill.

622
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:49,680
Speaker 1: When you first heard that song, do you know, like

623
00:30:49,720 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 1: when you hear a beat, do you know it's a hit?

624
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,160
Speaker 2: My song played was the only song that went I

625
00:31:00,200 --> 00:31:01,960
Speaker 2: heard that. I knew that was him. I didn't like

626
00:31:01,960 --> 00:31:05,280
Speaker 2: like a pimp. If I knew rubber Man was that dope.

627
00:31:05,560 --> 00:31:08,040
Speaker 2: I do love Tip. I had have kept it for myself.

628
00:31:08,120 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 2: I can't even lie to you. I got to be honest.

629
00:31:09,800 --> 00:31:10,320
Speaker 3: I didn't know.

630
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:12,520
Speaker 2: I can't even sit here and tell you that I

631
00:31:12,520 --> 00:31:16,760
Speaker 2: had at as a matter of fact Tip is like

632
00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: now my.

633
00:31:17,320 --> 00:31:20,400
Speaker 3: Ears for me, bro, because he's a genius. Bro.

634
00:31:20,440 --> 00:31:23,040
Speaker 2: When it comes to hearing it, I just make a

635
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:26,000
Speaker 2: bunch of shit, and some of that shit is great.

636
00:31:26,280 --> 00:31:27,240
Speaker 3: Some of it sucks.

637
00:31:27,400 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 2: I can tell that ain't And I just got to

638
00:31:30,160 --> 00:31:32,200
Speaker 2: be honest with you. Most producers wouldn't tell the truth

639
00:31:32,240 --> 00:31:35,480
Speaker 2: about this, but I will. When I first started, if

640
00:31:35,520 --> 00:31:39,240
Speaker 2: I made ten beats, two of them a dope. Now

641
00:31:39,720 --> 00:31:43,480
Speaker 2: if I made ten beats four them dope, But like

642
00:31:43,520 --> 00:31:45,000
Speaker 2: that's just part of it. You just got to keep

643
00:31:45,040 --> 00:31:50,000
Speaker 2: making it, you know. But no, Bro, I I had

644
00:31:50,040 --> 00:31:51,120
Speaker 2: no idea.

645
00:31:51,240 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 3: Bro.

646
00:31:52,560 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 2: What I will say is that Nelly is the only

647
00:31:55,440 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 2: artist that I made a beat for and he took

648
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,680
Speaker 2: it because you got to think, when you make a

649
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 2: beat for an artist, the only thing you can go

650
00:32:04,840 --> 00:32:05,600
Speaker 2: off of is what you.

651
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:06,880
Speaker 3: Heard from the right.

652
00:32:07,080 --> 00:32:10,480
Speaker 2: But if they're really an artist, they ten years ahead

653
00:32:10,520 --> 00:32:13,640
Speaker 2: of that now, so you're usually behind them trying to cater.

654
00:32:13,800 --> 00:32:16,680
Speaker 2: What you should do as a producer is give them

655
00:32:16,720 --> 00:32:19,680
Speaker 2: the future instead of being in their past.

656
00:32:20,120 --> 00:32:20,360
Speaker 3: Right.

657
00:32:20,800 --> 00:32:22,040
Speaker 2: And Nelly was the only one.

658
00:32:22,080 --> 00:32:22,280
Speaker 3: Bro.

659
00:32:22,680 --> 00:32:24,600
Speaker 2: Every beat I sent to Nelly, he got on there.

660
00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 2: And I don't want to talk about it because some

661
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:35,080
Speaker 2: things are not meant to talk about. But I never

662
00:32:35,160 --> 00:32:40,400
Speaker 2: really got into like petty shit. Yeah, Bro, I don't

663
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:43,560
Speaker 2: watch the news as smart as I am, people will

664
00:32:43,640 --> 00:32:47,400
Speaker 2: be surprised. I don't news is depressing. I don't get

665
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:50,560
Speaker 2: into people's beef unless we grew up together. Like I'm

666
00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:52,040
Speaker 2: trying to bring the community together.

667
00:32:52,360 --> 00:32:53,520
Speaker 3: I have an opinion on that.

668
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:58,000
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, I got into a lot of rap beefs

669
00:32:58,120 --> 00:33:01,240
Speaker 2: that I didn't know about, bro, and it hurt my

670
00:33:01,280 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: money because I was always trying to bring people together,

671
00:33:09,480 --> 00:33:11,240
Speaker 2: you know, And I just got caught off into a

672
00:33:11,240 --> 00:33:11,840
Speaker 2: lot of that ship.

673
00:33:12,840 --> 00:33:14,680
Speaker 1: Peimpsy said you looked that for his family when he

674
00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,880
Speaker 1: went in. You don't mind with me? Why did you

675
00:33:17,920 --> 00:33:18,719
Speaker 1: do it? And what did you do?

676
00:33:19,600 --> 00:33:22,000
Speaker 3: I don't know. What I did was so long ago.

677
00:33:22,280 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 3: Why'd you do it? I don't know. You don't know

678
00:33:25,040 --> 00:33:25,600
Speaker 3: why you did it.

679
00:33:26,000 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: Just let me ask you if you really live by

680
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:32,520
Speaker 2: the spirit. Yeah, ain't your business, ste what you're told.

681
00:33:33,640 --> 00:33:37,440
Speaker 2: All I knew was that Pempe's voice changed my life.

682
00:33:37,720 --> 00:33:41,000
Speaker 2: I don't give a how dope like a pimp beat was,

683
00:33:41,880 --> 00:33:43,200
Speaker 2: people were attracted to.

684
00:33:43,280 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 3: Make them girls get down on the flow.

685
00:33:45,840 --> 00:33:49,000
Speaker 2: On the flow, like Bro, I sampled that man voice

686
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:53,560
Speaker 2: and didn't know them and it changed my life. How

687
00:33:53,640 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 2: dare I not feedback into his family? The problem is

688
00:33:57,880 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: us as black folks, Bro, is that we get money

689
00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:03,120
Speaker 2: and we start catering to people that don't like us

690
00:34:03,680 --> 00:34:10,120
Speaker 2: instead of what Easter Ray say, networking side to side,

691
00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:13,920
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. And so if his voice

692
00:34:14,000 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 2: blessed me that way, why not bless him and one

693
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,400
Speaker 2: thing I don't And Shannon, I think you do a

694
00:34:21,400 --> 00:34:25,359
Speaker 2: good job at this, bro, one thing and I'm proud

695
00:34:25,440 --> 00:34:29,279
Speaker 2: that I never did. Snoop is actually my friend, bro,

696
00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:34,719
Speaker 2: be clear, But he's still Snoop. Yeah, And I never

697
00:34:34,840 --> 00:34:40,879
Speaker 2: allow myself to stop being a fan. PIMPC was my friend, Bro.

698
00:34:42,080 --> 00:34:45,560
Speaker 2: That's still Pimp C. And I'll never take that away

699
00:34:45,560 --> 00:34:48,040
Speaker 2: from me. The fact that the people that we look

700
00:34:48,160 --> 00:34:53,120
Speaker 2: up to the most, Samuel L. Jackson is now my friend, Bro.

701
00:34:53,760 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 2: But don't ever get that yump. That's Samuel L. Jackson,

702
00:34:58,080 --> 00:35:01,000
Speaker 2: and that allows me to stay grateful for each day

703
00:35:01,040 --> 00:35:01,680
Speaker 2: in my life.

704
00:35:01,719 --> 00:35:04,319
Speaker 3: Bro. But those are still the people that I looked

705
00:35:04,400 --> 00:35:05,520
Speaker 3: up to. Do you know?

706
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,840
Speaker 2: One know something crazy with a lot of the people

707
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:10,600
Speaker 2: that I look up to look up to me Wow.

708
00:35:10,719 --> 00:35:14,360
Speaker 2: They come to me for guidance, especially spiritually, right, you

709
00:35:14,360 --> 00:35:17,080
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying? Yes, And sometimes I have to

710
00:35:17,320 --> 00:35:20,839
Speaker 2: remind myself that I can't take that away from them too,

711
00:35:21,320 --> 00:35:24,000
Speaker 2: So I got to I still gotta stay up, but

712
00:35:24,040 --> 00:35:26,279
Speaker 2: I gotta also realize that these are people that I

713
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:27,840
Speaker 2: look up to and love and respect to.

714
00:35:28,520 --> 00:35:31,040
Speaker 3: You work with Wayne after he got out of jail.

715
00:35:31,080 --> 00:35:32,440
Speaker 3: Wayne's been at this thing for a while.

716
00:35:32,560 --> 00:35:35,760
Speaker 1: I mean I think Wayne started probably twelve or thirteen,

717
00:35:35,880 --> 00:35:37,759
Speaker 1: and here he's probably be in his forties now, so

718
00:35:37,800 --> 00:35:38,760
Speaker 1: he's been at this thing.

719
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,200
Speaker 3: For a minute. What did I mean?

720
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:45,799
Speaker 1: And I think I still think Wayne when they talk

721
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:51,240
Speaker 1: about goats, the way he can put words together, he's

722
00:35:52,000 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: I mean, he yeah, what is it like watching him

723
00:35:55,680 --> 00:35:57,920
Speaker 1: create a masterpiece?

724
00:36:00,680 --> 00:36:03,080
Speaker 2: This is not gonna be popular. What I'm about to say,

725
00:36:06,000 --> 00:36:12,640
Speaker 2: what's funny to me? Only my opinion. I think Wayne

726
00:36:12,800 --> 00:36:18,000
Speaker 2: was more of a problem when he was twelve, like

727
00:36:18,080 --> 00:36:23,279
Speaker 2: the early cash money where he focused in Like a

728
00:36:23,320 --> 00:36:26,600
Speaker 2: lot of people became fans of jay Z and you know,

729
00:36:27,000 --> 00:36:30,200
Speaker 2: keeping it in your head, and I think that's cool.

730
00:36:30,400 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 3: You know.

731
00:36:30,680 --> 00:36:33,839
Speaker 2: One thing Ericabaidu taught me was that you don't ever

732
00:36:34,239 --> 00:36:40,879
Speaker 2: judge how a person reveals or creates their music, right.

733
00:36:42,400 --> 00:36:45,160
Speaker 2: But I remember the stories that he used to give

734
00:36:45,360 --> 00:36:49,359
Speaker 2: Bro back on the BGS in the early cash money

735
00:36:49,400 --> 00:36:55,640
Speaker 2: before the universal deals. Like, I can't imagine a focused

736
00:36:56,719 --> 00:37:01,640
Speaker 2: little Wayne who has to steal sending to somebody. Gotta

737
00:37:01,640 --> 00:37:03,879
Speaker 2: think Lil wayn ain't got to listen to nobody, no more,

738
00:37:03,960 --> 00:37:09,640
Speaker 2: no producer, no engine, nobody. But there's a certain think

739
00:37:09,680 --> 00:37:14,040
Speaker 2: about eminem with Doctor Dre. You said you want to say,

740
00:37:14,080 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 2: but when he with Doctor Dre, it's special.

741
00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 3: Jada kiss with.

742
00:37:18,520 --> 00:37:23,760
Speaker 2: The Alchemists early, Bro, there's just something about having somebody

743
00:37:23,760 --> 00:37:25,040
Speaker 2: that you have reverence to.

744
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:25,359
Speaker 3: Bro.

745
00:37:27,000 --> 00:37:31,799
Speaker 2: I just think that the world doesn't know because they're

746
00:37:31,840 --> 00:37:35,319
Speaker 2: not privy to the Lil Wayne that I was that

747
00:37:35,480 --> 00:37:38,120
Speaker 2: I'm a fan of Bro like I would just love

748
00:37:38,200 --> 00:37:40,240
Speaker 2: to hear that just one more time.

749
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:43,520
Speaker 1: Bro, you got an album out now that I was

750
00:37:43,560 --> 00:37:45,320
Speaker 1: coming out.

751
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I will tell you something Bro that I

752
00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 2: don't think. I don't know if I said this anymore,

753
00:37:52,320 --> 00:37:54,920
Speaker 2: maybe maybe one out of time, but Wayne said the

754
00:37:54,920 --> 00:37:59,879
Speaker 2: most admirable thing anybody has ever said to me in history, Bro,

755
00:38:00,160 --> 00:38:03,680
Speaker 2: as a producer. Wayne told me because what a lot

756
00:38:03,680 --> 00:38:05,440
Speaker 2: of people don't know is some of the beats. Some

757
00:38:05,480 --> 00:38:08,279
Speaker 2: of the most historical freestyles that Wayne did. They were

758
00:38:08,280 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 2: over David Banner beats. But I would send him so

759
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 2: many beats. I don't put my tag on my beat

760
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: until they paid for it.

761
00:38:15,960 --> 00:38:18,399
Speaker 3: But it was Wayne, so I didn't really give a shit.

762
00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:20,359
Speaker 2: Put that shit out waye because if Wayne do one

763
00:38:20,360 --> 00:38:25,200
Speaker 2: of your beats, yeah gonna pay you because you produced.

764
00:38:25,280 --> 00:38:27,719
Speaker 2: So I never tripped. Wayne could do whatever he wanted

765
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,600
Speaker 2: to do, right. But Wayne told me something.

766
00:38:29,719 --> 00:38:32,160
Speaker 3: He called me man. It was really strange, said Banner.

767
00:38:33,800 --> 00:38:37,200
Speaker 2: Now that I'm a businessman, I can't promise you that

768
00:38:37,280 --> 00:38:41,760
Speaker 2: you're gonna have a spot on everything on Young Money.

769
00:38:42,120 --> 00:38:44,480
Speaker 2: But I can promise you that I give you opportunity

770
00:38:44,560 --> 00:38:47,480
Speaker 2: to fight for your spot. And that's all you can

771
00:38:47,520 --> 00:38:48,640
Speaker 2: ask for as a man.

772
00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:48,919
Speaker 3: Bro.

773
00:38:50,000 --> 00:38:54,000
Speaker 2: And the thing that I would wish and hope for

774
00:38:54,120 --> 00:38:58,960
Speaker 2: Wayne Man is that that man really loves music.

775
00:38:59,000 --> 00:38:59,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

776
00:39:00,280 --> 00:39:05,399
Speaker 2: I talked about this today. Bro, like Wayne with light

777
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:08,160
Speaker 2: of blood put his head in the speaker and asked

778
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:11,520
Speaker 2: me to play all my beats, not to sell him,

779
00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,600
Speaker 2: but because he was a fan of my production.

780
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:15,439
Speaker 3: Ain't iboy.

781
00:39:15,440 --> 00:39:18,960
Speaker 2: I don't give like, Bro, just play the music, Bro,

782
00:39:20,480 --> 00:39:25,920
Speaker 2: And I just wish that we could all make music again.

783
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:26,279
Speaker 3: Man.

784
00:39:26,360 --> 00:39:29,000
Speaker 2: Like I've been talking about this a lot because I

785
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:32,040
Speaker 2: want people to know that ain't about music. The last

786
00:39:32,040 --> 00:39:35,160
Speaker 2: thing I produced for Tia that came out.

787
00:39:35,480 --> 00:39:37,840
Speaker 3: I didn't charge you. Just wanted us to be in

788
00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,960
Speaker 3: the studio again. Bro, I got money. Let's just get

789
00:39:42,000 --> 00:39:44,240
Speaker 3: back to doing it. Because, Bro, if we do.

790
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:49,480
Speaker 2: What we do naturally the money coming, you got AI

791
00:39:49,480 --> 00:39:52,040
Speaker 2: and all that stuff. The thing that you can't replicate

792
00:39:52,200 --> 00:39:56,879
Speaker 2: is bro like real live heart, bro, real music, something

793
00:39:56,920 --> 00:39:59,160
Speaker 2: that touches people's soul. One of my friends told me

794
00:39:59,200 --> 00:40:03,320
Speaker 2: when they created at the television, we lost our minds,

795
00:40:03,880 --> 00:40:05,839
Speaker 2: but the one thing that couldn't take away from us

796
00:40:05,920 --> 00:40:09,520
Speaker 2: is our spirit and our soul. We still got that, Shannon, right,

797
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:13,640
Speaker 2: And like Wayne Bro, Wayne is a Wayne is special Bro.

798
00:40:14,840 --> 00:40:19,080
Speaker 2: He is special man. And I just wish, like Chris Brown, Bro,

799
00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:22,960
Speaker 2: that we'll just get back in and with each other

800
00:40:23,120 --> 00:40:27,920
Speaker 2: and work again. Bro like skinning the studio, like a

801
00:40:28,000 --> 00:40:30,120
Speaker 2: group of us that really care about this shit. And

802
00:40:30,160 --> 00:40:33,399
Speaker 2: I think people would come back to it if they

803
00:40:33,480 --> 00:40:38,680
Speaker 2: felt something. Bro and Wayne got that Wayne really loved music,

804
00:40:38,760 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 2: Bro really really loves music.

805
00:40:41,520 --> 00:40:42,719
Speaker 3: Bros.

806
00:40:42,880 --> 00:40:44,960
Speaker 2: There's another artist I want to shout out because when

807
00:40:44,960 --> 00:40:47,160
Speaker 2: I was thinking about Wayne, I thought about him, Devin

808
00:40:47,239 --> 00:40:51,560
Speaker 2: the dude in Houston, Like I work with him, right,

809
00:40:52,840 --> 00:40:57,000
Speaker 2: and he reminds me of that fiend from New Orleans.

810
00:40:57,080 --> 00:41:00,520
Speaker 2: Remind me of that bro that people who just dropping

811
00:41:00,560 --> 00:41:04,319
Speaker 2: them zones, bro, and they love music so much that

812
00:41:04,400 --> 00:41:07,920
Speaker 2: everything else melts away. And I think people feel that

813
00:41:08,120 --> 00:41:12,480
Speaker 2: people feel way ain't suffering, and that's what people really relate.

814
00:41:12,520 --> 00:41:14,439
Speaker 2: And he don't mind putting this heart on the track.

815
00:41:15,280 --> 00:41:17,600
Speaker 2: I just wish, man, it was enough of us around

816
00:41:17,600 --> 00:41:20,200
Speaker 2: to focus that, because you can say a lot of

817
00:41:20,280 --> 00:41:22,640
Speaker 2: dope stuff, bro, but like to be able to put

818
00:41:22,640 --> 00:41:26,080
Speaker 2: it in and guide it a little bit, not much.

819
00:41:26,520 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 3: Bro, I am.

820
00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,200
Speaker 2: I am one of the executive producers of Jill Scott's

821
00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:34,719
Speaker 2: new album Okay, and she's a great example of that, bro.

822
00:41:35,360 --> 00:41:39,359
Speaker 2: Like Jill don't need no producers, but like to be

823
00:41:39,400 --> 00:41:41,600
Speaker 2: honest with you, man, to even be in the space

824
00:41:42,280 --> 00:41:45,879
Speaker 2: to just give a little nudge, a little nudge here,

825
00:41:46,120 --> 00:41:48,000
Speaker 2: because to be real, Jill.

826
00:41:49,200 --> 00:41:52,560
Speaker 3: Does seven songs in one session.

827
00:41:53,160 --> 00:41:55,799
Speaker 2: Wow, you just gotta be mad enough to let her

828
00:41:55,840 --> 00:41:59,680
Speaker 2: play uh huh and move out our way and then realize, Okay,

829
00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:01,799
Speaker 2: it's time to move on now, right, But let her

830
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:04,600
Speaker 2: get it as much of it out as you possibly can.

831
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:09,320
Speaker 2: But it ain't much producing Lil Wayne, Chris Brown, Jill Scott, their.

832
00:42:09,239 --> 00:42:11,000
Speaker 3: Geniuses, Samuel L.

833
00:42:11,080 --> 00:42:14,360
Speaker 1: Jackson, Justin Timberlake, Eed, your Salva, Regina King, Loretta Devine,

834
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:18,080
Speaker 1: Lawrence Fitzburn, They Diggs, far As Waderker Boris Kojo Oprah,

835
00:42:18,160 --> 00:42:25,200
Speaker 1: Cooper Gooding Jr. Don Chito, Taraji, Queen Latifa. What is

836
00:42:25,239 --> 00:42:27,120
Speaker 1: the most fun you had on set?

837
00:42:27,440 --> 00:42:28,399
Speaker 3: Or each each of.

838
00:42:28,360 --> 00:42:32,080
Speaker 1: Those individuals that I read off brings a different banner out.

839
00:42:32,360 --> 00:42:36,440
Speaker 2: No, So let me tell you this right, No, no

840
00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:39,840
Speaker 2: live Shaun and I just started learning how to enjoy

841
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:43,400
Speaker 2: my life. Bro, I've been so serious. I've been so

842
00:42:43,560 --> 00:42:46,680
Speaker 2: scared of dropping the ball that I didn't enjoy the shit.

843
00:42:46,800 --> 00:42:47,000
Speaker 3: Bro.

844
00:42:47,880 --> 00:42:50,719
Speaker 2: I think about having a football, Bro, you never thow

845
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,000
Speaker 2: that because you're scared somebody going interccept it. Right, That

846
00:42:54,080 --> 00:42:58,200
Speaker 2: ain't fun. Part of it is letting that fly correct.

847
00:42:58,440 --> 00:43:01,200
Speaker 2: Nobody ever taught me that us from Mississippi. Man. So like,

848
00:43:03,080 --> 00:43:06,680
Speaker 2: I'm gonna just be real with you, bro. Like most

849
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:08,240
Speaker 2: of the stuff I go through, I ain't got nobody

850
00:43:08,320 --> 00:43:08,920
Speaker 2: to call.

851
00:43:10,640 --> 00:43:10,799
Speaker 3: Bro.

852
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:12,879
Speaker 2: Like ain't nobody ever done no shit that I've done

853
00:43:12,920 --> 00:43:16,600
Speaker 2: for Bro. I just got to the point where I

854
00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,399
Speaker 2: can call Samuel or Jackson this year, Bro, And people

855
00:43:20,440 --> 00:43:22,920
Speaker 2: don't understand the pressure, like it's easy to do some

856
00:43:23,600 --> 00:43:25,600
Speaker 2: dumb thug shit like I'm used to that shit. I

857
00:43:25,640 --> 00:43:28,319
Speaker 2: got hummies that do that shit. But Bro, I didn't

858
00:43:28,360 --> 00:43:32,560
Speaker 2: got to a point in my life where ain't nobody

859
00:43:32,640 --> 00:43:39,359
Speaker 2: really the call, And so I always been nervous. Bro.

860
00:43:39,440 --> 00:43:42,800
Speaker 2: Like last year, Bro, I was shooting in the middle

861
00:43:42,840 --> 00:43:44,759
Speaker 2: of my biggest depression in my life. Bro, I was

862
00:43:44,800 --> 00:43:48,920
Speaker 2: shooting Fight Night and Family Business New Orleans at the

863
00:43:48,960 --> 00:43:51,279
Speaker 2: same time, and didn't nobody know it. I couldn't tell

864
00:43:51,320 --> 00:43:53,680
Speaker 2: them folks that I was doing both of them at

865
00:43:53,719 --> 00:43:56,840
Speaker 2: the same time. But I had accepted Family Business first,

866
00:43:57,280 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 2: And ain't no way I'm not gonna do Fight Night

867
00:44:00,160 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: with Kevin Hard Samuel Jackson to Rajie Terrace, Howard done Cheatle.

868
00:44:06,680 --> 00:44:08,839
Speaker 3: We're gonna figure out the way to make that shit happen, right,

869
00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:10,000
Speaker 3: fuck Dad? Right?

870
00:44:10,360 --> 00:44:14,640
Speaker 2: And bro, Hey, I never really had a chance to

871
00:44:14,680 --> 00:44:18,680
Speaker 2: talk about this, Bro. That that shit fried me. Bro's

872
00:44:18,719 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 2: a lot because I was starring. I'm a star in

873
00:44:21,200 --> 00:44:24,359
Speaker 2: Family Business, Yes, and then the pressure of every night

874
00:44:24,440 --> 00:44:29,480
Speaker 2: I go to work, it's almost like you got you

875
00:44:29,600 --> 00:44:32,279
Speaker 2: got seven games, but all of them are All Star Game.

876
00:44:33,320 --> 00:44:35,279
Speaker 2: You only played one All Star Game a year when

877
00:44:35,280 --> 00:44:38,200
Speaker 2: you're playing football, would imagine all Like That's what Fight

878
00:44:38,320 --> 00:44:41,160
Speaker 2: Night was. So the pressure of every time I go

879
00:44:41,239 --> 00:44:45,240
Speaker 2: to work, I got talked to my friends about acting

880
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,200
Speaker 2: in front of Samuel L.

881
00:44:46,360 --> 00:44:46,800
Speaker 3: Jackson.

882
00:44:46,840 --> 00:44:52,839
Speaker 2: Bro, you know, and so it just but but I'm

883
00:44:52,840 --> 00:44:56,400
Speaker 2: gonna tell you this, Bro, Samuel Jackson, he relieved me

884
00:44:56,440 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 2: of that.

885
00:44:56,760 --> 00:44:56,960
Speaker 3: Bro.

886
00:44:57,600 --> 00:45:00,680
Speaker 2: After I got done with Fight Night, Man, Samuel, I

887
00:45:00,760 --> 00:45:02,319
Speaker 2: went to him and I was like, because I really

888
00:45:02,320 --> 00:45:05,080
Speaker 2: didn't talk to him because I didn't really want to

889
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 2: be all up under him if I didn't make him proud.

890
00:45:08,680 --> 00:45:11,279
Speaker 2: And Samuel Jackson said the dopest shit ever. He said, mess,

891
00:45:11,320 --> 00:45:14,520
Speaker 2: stop that shit, man, quitt it. He was like, Bro,

892
00:45:14,600 --> 00:45:17,040
Speaker 2: when I started acting, Bro, I was just walking by.

893
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:19,799
Speaker 2: He said, in your first movie, Black Snake, Mom, you

894
00:45:19,920 --> 00:45:23,239
Speaker 2: was acting in front of me and you survived. Said

895
00:45:23,280 --> 00:45:27,160
Speaker 2: you're supposed to be here. Stop acting like that. So

896
00:45:27,200 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 2: basically he was telling me to stand in my light, bro,

897
00:45:30,600 --> 00:45:33,279
Speaker 2: stand up and be the man. And Eric Abadu used

898
00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:34,840
Speaker 2: to tell me that all the time. She used to

899
00:45:34,880 --> 00:45:37,400
Speaker 2: always say this was strange because you know she flowed.

900
00:45:39,160 --> 00:45:42,760
Speaker 2: She always say, we waiting on you, mister Donner. People

901
00:45:42,800 --> 00:45:44,600
Speaker 2: are waiting on you to see the God and you

902
00:45:45,960 --> 00:45:49,200
Speaker 2: and I never did brun terresaly wow.

903
00:45:50,400 --> 00:45:54,080
Speaker 1: Right along with Kevin Hart, Knic Cube, Kate Hart shot

904
00:45:54,120 --> 00:45:57,120
Speaker 1: you cbe interrogated you. What's it like to being on

905
00:45:57,160 --> 00:45:58,919
Speaker 1: with keV? Can I can just imagine I've been around

906
00:45:58,960 --> 00:46:01,040
Speaker 1: him a little bit and and talk to Cube had

907
00:46:01,120 --> 00:46:03,440
Speaker 1: Cube on here? What's it like to be on the

908
00:46:03,480 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 1: set with keV? With Kevin Hart?

909
00:46:06,239 --> 00:46:07,319
Speaker 2: Can I take one of these homes?

910
00:46:07,360 --> 00:46:07,960
Speaker 3: You sure can?

911
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:12,320
Speaker 2: Okay, thank you? I want to say this, bro, and

912
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:18,360
Speaker 2: I'm serious. Say whatever they want to about Kevin Hart.

913
00:46:19,200 --> 00:46:23,360
Speaker 2: With the exception of Tyler Perry, I don't seen nobody

914
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 2: work as hard as him.

915
00:46:25,840 --> 00:46:29,160
Speaker 3: Bro. Like he inspired me. Bro, Yeah he he were

916
00:46:29,200 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: he worked.

917
00:46:29,520 --> 00:46:31,440
Speaker 1: I mean, like to be honest with you, Bro, like

918
00:46:31,600 --> 00:46:34,720
Speaker 1: he either writing, he started it, commercials, movie and TV

919
00:46:35,280 --> 00:46:39,520
Speaker 1: and people don't see he faced timing his kids over

920
00:46:39,560 --> 00:46:42,759
Speaker 1: here on the side talking to his wife. He got

921
00:46:42,800 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 1: a dialect coach because he's not from the South, but

922
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:47,440
Speaker 1: he's doing the Southern film.

923
00:46:47,600 --> 00:46:47,719
Speaker 3: Bro.

924
00:46:47,800 --> 00:46:50,880
Speaker 2: He wake up every morning, bro at four thirty and

925
00:46:51,000 --> 00:46:51,439
Speaker 2: work out.

926
00:46:51,800 --> 00:46:51,960
Speaker 4: Bro.

927
00:46:52,000 --> 00:46:55,760
Speaker 2: I'm not playing about this workout shit. Bro, I ain't lying.

928
00:46:55,840 --> 00:46:56,040
Speaker 3: Bro.

929
00:46:56,480 --> 00:46:59,200
Speaker 2: I saw Kevin hart back. He ain't no way of

930
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,160
Speaker 2: no monks. I won't see the way. They ain't a

931
00:47:01,160 --> 00:47:03,760
Speaker 2: motherfucker out do me. Bro, if you don't play no sports,

932
00:47:04,680 --> 00:47:06,560
Speaker 2: I did see it when y'all see my back. That

933
00:47:06,640 --> 00:47:08,440
Speaker 2: was cousin Kevin Heart. The motherfucker looks like you have

934
00:47:08,480 --> 00:47:11,200
Speaker 2: a backpack. Fuck, you ain't gonna outdo me. And I

935
00:47:11,239 --> 00:47:14,440
Speaker 2: got more time than you. But but Kevin hard Man,

936
00:47:14,480 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: he worked so hard, man, and to have some simular

937
00:47:19,640 --> 00:47:24,960
Speaker 2: like to have some form of still being human and

938
00:47:25,040 --> 00:47:27,719
Speaker 2: learn how to smile, and he.

939
00:47:27,760 --> 00:47:29,560
Speaker 3: Hear all the shit people throw at him.

940
00:47:29,760 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: Does How can you not? Because people I don't play

941
00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:35,200
Speaker 1: no attention to that. Well you might not, but guess

942
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:37,239
Speaker 1: what you got family friends and loved ones that do.

943
00:47:38,239 --> 00:47:40,759
Speaker 2: And Bro, that boy work his ass off, and whether

944
00:47:40,800 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 2: you agree with what he do, it's always how do

945
00:47:43,920 --> 00:47:46,719
Speaker 2: you ever noticed most people who talk the most shit

946
00:47:47,160 --> 00:47:52,320
Speaker 2: don't have nothing. People who have what you have, regardless

947
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:54,440
Speaker 2: of whether they like you or art from form or not,

948
00:47:54,480 --> 00:47:56,359
Speaker 2: they know how hard it is to get so they

949
00:47:56,440 --> 00:48:00,680
Speaker 2: usually don't talk shit about like Kevin work hard man,

950
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:04,640
Speaker 2: Kevin I man, and I was inspired when we did

951
00:48:05,040 --> 00:48:09,880
Speaker 2: you know, fight night. I just didn't tell him. But

952
00:48:10,880 --> 00:48:15,080
Speaker 2: I'm proud of him, man, And what I want him

953
00:48:15,080 --> 00:48:17,920
Speaker 2: to know is that I studied him the same way

954
00:48:17,960 --> 00:48:21,440
Speaker 2: I studied fifty cent and music. I watched Kevin Hart,

955
00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:24,760
Speaker 2: and as hard as I work, like Shannon, I bust

956
00:48:24,800 --> 00:48:26,960
Speaker 2: my ass all the time. Bro, I always wanted to

957
00:48:27,000 --> 00:48:29,480
Speaker 2: have to have children. Again, I tell you that I

958
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:32,080
Speaker 2: always wanted to have a family, but I sacrificed that.

959
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,880
Speaker 2: But to see somebody, bro, if I can work like

960
00:48:35,920 --> 00:48:39,440
Speaker 2: I work now and reach the level that Kevin Hart

961
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:43,520
Speaker 2: is or he's at now, but we don't need but

962
00:48:43,560 --> 00:48:45,799
Speaker 2: a year of that dog right. But Kevin Hart had

963
00:48:45,840 --> 00:48:48,480
Speaker 2: done this shit for four five years. Oh yeah, he

964
00:48:48,600 --> 00:48:51,120
Speaker 2: all right, And I'm really proud of him.

965
00:48:51,160 --> 00:48:51,480
Speaker 3: Again.

966
00:48:51,719 --> 00:48:54,200
Speaker 2: Don't agree with everything he do, don't agree with everything

967
00:48:54,239 --> 00:48:57,080
Speaker 2: that he say, but he happy.

968
00:48:57,520 --> 00:49:01,799
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm cool. Is that audition you've gone on and

969
00:49:01,880 --> 00:49:02,600
Speaker 1: you didn't.

970
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:07,000
Speaker 3: Get Yeah, that's a lot of most that what people

971
00:49:07,040 --> 00:49:07,600
Speaker 3: say people say.

972
00:49:09,239 --> 00:49:12,279
Speaker 2: Let me change that. There was an audition that I

973
00:49:12,360 --> 00:49:15,960
Speaker 2: smashed that I got it and the director said, I

974
00:49:15,960 --> 00:49:18,759
Speaker 2: look to young, damn, and I wouldn't be here in

975
00:49:18,800 --> 00:49:20,520
Speaker 2: front of you right now. I ain't gonaven bullshit you

976
00:49:20,680 --> 00:49:23,120
Speaker 2: if if that would have happened, I wouldn't be here.

977
00:49:24,480 --> 00:49:27,000
Speaker 3: I was supposed to be the black guy walking dead.

978
00:49:28,600 --> 00:49:35,200
Speaker 2: The the casting directors like it was actually two ladies, right,

979
00:49:35,560 --> 00:49:39,799
Speaker 2: and this was I'm serious, y'all listen to me. I

980
00:49:39,800 --> 00:49:42,480
Speaker 2: would have hated to be in that room because what

981
00:49:42,560 --> 00:49:45,799
Speaker 2: they did was unacceptable, but it was dope because they

982
00:49:45,840 --> 00:49:49,680
Speaker 2: did it for me. The lady walked out after I

983
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:54,520
Speaker 2: did my audition and said I found him. Imagine it's

984
00:49:54,800 --> 00:49:57,480
Speaker 2: thirty people in the room and somebody come out and

985
00:49:57,480 --> 00:49:59,919
Speaker 2: say I found him, and you gotta come after that, right,

986
00:50:00,400 --> 00:50:02,440
Speaker 2: she said, I got to introduce you to my partner.

987
00:50:02,520 --> 00:50:02,879
Speaker 3: Come here.

988
00:50:03,320 --> 00:50:06,279
Speaker 2: At the time, I was wrong, vegan drinking a gall

989
00:50:06,400 --> 00:50:07,359
Speaker 2: in the water every day.

990
00:50:07,360 --> 00:50:07,480
Speaker 3: Bro.

991
00:50:07,600 --> 00:50:09,680
Speaker 2: I can't lie to you. Bro, I did look like

992
00:50:09,719 --> 00:50:13,200
Speaker 2: I was twenty four. What came back to me. I

993
00:50:13,200 --> 00:50:15,120
Speaker 2: don't know how true it is that I look to young.

994
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:17,759
Speaker 2: But now my friends said they could have put some

995
00:50:17,840 --> 00:50:20,920
Speaker 2: gray in your beard. You got that shit. But that

996
00:50:21,040 --> 00:50:23,200
Speaker 2: was one thing, brother, that I always I don't I

997
00:50:23,239 --> 00:50:25,799
Speaker 2: don't regret anything because everything is in God light and

998
00:50:25,840 --> 00:50:31,319
Speaker 2: God pal But I look at how well walking dead dead? Yeah,

999
00:50:31,360 --> 00:50:33,600
Speaker 2: and Bro, what that would have done for me?

1000
00:50:34,600 --> 00:50:39,719
Speaker 3: Shit? But you never know, bro, been dead anything?

1001
00:50:39,960 --> 00:50:42,359
Speaker 2: Like, I don't ever wish for what I don't have, right,

1002
00:50:42,360 --> 00:50:43,799
Speaker 2: but that.

1003
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 3: That's one one of the ones. Though, Bro, do you

1004
00:50:45,719 --> 00:50:49,840
Speaker 3: prefer producing, rapping or acting? Is there one day? Is

1005
00:50:49,880 --> 00:50:53,200
Speaker 3: there a preference? How much they're paying? So you don't

1006
00:50:53,200 --> 00:50:54,319
Speaker 3: have a preference. I don't give us.

1007
00:50:55,200 --> 00:50:59,160
Speaker 2: No, honestly, Shannon. We're getting to do what our parents say.

1008
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,440
Speaker 3: Play right. I get to play every day that I

1009
00:51:01,480 --> 00:51:01,880
Speaker 3: wake up.

1010
00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:04,600
Speaker 2: Bro. It no't matter how I play, just as long

1011
00:51:04,640 --> 00:51:06,320
Speaker 2: as I continue being creative.

1012
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:13,080
Speaker 3: I just came off of I did Forbes, and I

1013
00:51:13,120 --> 00:51:14,440
Speaker 3: talked about that. In Forbes.

1014
00:51:14,480 --> 00:51:18,000
Speaker 2: I said, I'm one of the few CEOs that will

1015
00:51:18,040 --> 00:51:19,520
Speaker 2: come up here and tell you that I want to

1016
00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,359
Speaker 2: do less business. I make all this money. I want

1017
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:25,480
Speaker 2: to be I want to create, be creative again. Like,

1018
00:51:25,600 --> 00:51:30,239
Speaker 2: that's your God power is to create, So Bro, Like,

1019
00:51:30,320 --> 00:51:33,000
Speaker 2: we spend so much time working, we missed the opportunity

1020
00:51:33,040 --> 00:51:36,480
Speaker 2: to be in communion with God and create new things.

1021
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:39,560
Speaker 2: That's what I want to do, Shannon. This young man

1022
00:51:39,800 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 2: one of the dopest minds of the younger age. His

1023
00:51:43,080 --> 00:51:46,520
Speaker 2: name is Dereck Grace. He said something so powerful one time,

1024
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,439
Speaker 2: and I didn't ask him to say this. He said,

1025
00:51:48,440 --> 00:51:51,239
Speaker 2: can black people Can you imagine David Banner with a

1026
00:51:51,280 --> 00:51:55,280
Speaker 2: billion dollars, Well, he could do for our community. Oh yeah,

1027
00:51:55,360 --> 00:51:58,000
Speaker 2: if all he had to do was think and create

1028
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:01,640
Speaker 2: for us shit. But I'm always Shannon, just watch, I'm

1029
00:52:01,680 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: about to tell their mouth out. And Bro, I'm telling you,

1030
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:06,640
Speaker 2: I am not joking. I'm gonna be out here with

1031
00:52:06,719 --> 00:52:08,319
Speaker 2: no shirt on. You're gonna be like you can put

1032
00:52:08,320 --> 00:52:09,600
Speaker 2: your clothes on them and be like, no.

1033
00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:15,439
Speaker 3: If they're a role that you won't play in a movie. Yeah,

1034
00:52:15,520 --> 00:52:16,160
Speaker 3: it's a lot of.

1035
00:52:17,800 --> 00:52:20,719
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into that, Shannon, because we

1036
00:52:20,760 --> 00:52:23,279
Speaker 2: can't run our mouth before we get into positions that

1037
00:52:23,320 --> 00:52:27,840
Speaker 2: we need to in order to help our families. But

1038
00:52:27,960 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 2: I do know that sometimes our black bodies are used

1039
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:36,680
Speaker 2: to push certain agendas, and I just refuse to do that.

1040
00:52:37,040 --> 00:52:37,960
Speaker 3: But I said like that.

1041
00:52:39,000 --> 00:52:42,680
Speaker 1: Terrence Howard was in Fight Night with You, But lately

1042
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:45,080
Speaker 1: he's been taking on the establishment. He's been calling out

1043
00:52:45,080 --> 00:52:48,560
Speaker 1: Hollywood for some of the things they're doing. Have you

1044
00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,799
Speaker 1: seen that side of Hollywood that he's speaking about. This

1045
00:52:51,880 --> 00:52:55,560
Speaker 1: is what I will say. We don't even have to

1046
00:52:55,600 --> 00:52:58,840
Speaker 1: go there, Shannon. Where are you from.

1047
00:53:00,000 --> 00:53:03,400
Speaker 3: It's out Georgia, and you see that outside.

1048
00:53:04,680 --> 00:53:08,200
Speaker 2: America ain't no different, bro. Do you know what's crazy

1049
00:53:08,239 --> 00:53:10,560
Speaker 2: about lynchings? Have y'all ever noticed? And I'm talking to

1050
00:53:10,560 --> 00:53:13,920
Speaker 2: the white people in here when y'all saw pictures of

1051
00:53:14,040 --> 00:53:16,560
Speaker 2: lynchings and I'm talking to the white people, what color

1052
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,560
Speaker 2: do they usually have on?

1053
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:18,279
Speaker 3: You?

1054
00:53:18,320 --> 00:53:22,280
Speaker 2: Remember they had on white? I want to know why

1055
00:53:23,360 --> 00:53:27,560
Speaker 2: they just got out of church. These people ain't changed.

1056
00:53:27,600 --> 00:53:30,959
Speaker 2: The America ain't changed, bro. The problem that people don't

1057
00:53:31,000 --> 00:53:35,000
Speaker 2: understand is that the slave house has always been in

1058
00:53:35,080 --> 00:53:39,000
Speaker 2: direct proportion of the slave master house. The thing that

1059
00:53:39,040 --> 00:53:42,719
Speaker 2: we don't understand from a mathematical standpoint is that the

1060
00:53:42,760 --> 00:53:46,880
Speaker 2: slave house has grown forty million times, So the slave

1061
00:53:46,920 --> 00:53:52,399
Speaker 2: house is just bigger. We haven't We haven't progressed that much, bro,

1062
00:53:53,360 --> 00:53:56,880
Speaker 2: only in direct proportion to how much the slave master house.

1063
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,399
Speaker 2: So what I'll tell you, bro, is in Hollywood, man

1064
00:54:00,480 --> 00:54:06,160
Speaker 2: like we act like it's no different, bro, But like

1065
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,000
Speaker 2: be honest with you, bro, Like you know this, Shannon,

1066
00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:15,319
Speaker 2: the police and our towns just took the hood off

1067
00:54:15,360 --> 00:54:19,640
Speaker 2: in a lot of cases, you know, And I'm it ain't.

1068
00:54:19,719 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 2: I'm not surprised. It's not this big thing. We always

1069
00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:24,640
Speaker 2: act like this one thing that I don't like about

1070
00:54:24,680 --> 00:54:28,880
Speaker 2: our community, Like when we see certain people fall like

1071
00:54:29,000 --> 00:54:31,840
Speaker 2: in entertainment. We knew that about them in our community,

1072
00:54:31,880 --> 00:54:35,160
Speaker 2: you know, we did ten twenty years ago. Don't act

1073
00:54:35,200 --> 00:54:38,840
Speaker 2: surprised because white folks act surprised. Hollywood is no different

1074
00:54:38,880 --> 00:54:42,280
Speaker 2: than America, bro. And I'm just getting to the point

1075
00:54:42,320 --> 00:54:48,040
Speaker 2: now that I refuse to self sabotize self sabotize myself, bro,

1076
00:54:48,840 --> 00:54:51,040
Speaker 2: because I've always been talking and I'm not gonna get

1077
00:54:51,080 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 2: up on your show and kill myself when I'm this

1078
00:54:53,360 --> 00:54:56,280
Speaker 2: close right to being in control of my own life.

1079
00:54:56,320 --> 00:54:58,680
Speaker 2: But what I will say, America ain't no different than

1080
00:54:58,680 --> 00:55:02,319
Speaker 2: the police department, Ain't no different than the irs. Ain't

1081
00:55:02,560 --> 00:55:05,360
Speaker 2: no different than what you've been through in the NFL.

1082
00:55:05,440 --> 00:55:07,640
Speaker 2: We just understand what it is. We play within the

1083
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:10,160
Speaker 2: parameters until we can get the freedom that we have, Bro.

1084
00:55:10,440 --> 00:55:13,920
Speaker 2: But you know you said it earlier, Bro, what is this?

1085
00:55:14,239 --> 00:55:17,480
Speaker 2: What is all of this stuff? It's a fraternity. And

1086
00:55:17,520 --> 00:55:19,960
Speaker 2: if it's a fraternity, it's a circle and it's certain

1087
00:55:19,960 --> 00:55:22,160
Speaker 2: people outside of that circle, and if you're not in

1088
00:55:22,200 --> 00:55:25,040
Speaker 2: that circle, you're gonna be treated a certain way or manipulated.

1089
00:55:26,760 --> 00:55:30,040
Speaker 1: What made you start a multimedia production company? Why would

1090
00:55:30,040 --> 00:55:31,640
Speaker 1: you want? Why do you want to do that? Cream

1091
00:55:31,719 --> 00:55:32,799
Speaker 1: like you got a lot of You got a lot

1092
00:55:32,800 --> 00:55:35,320
Speaker 1: of iron, You got a lot of iron in the fire.

1093
00:55:36,520 --> 00:55:40,080
Speaker 2: I just knew I wouldn't. Cube is my hero. Ice

1094
00:55:40,120 --> 00:55:40,799
Speaker 2: Cube is my hero.

1095
00:55:40,880 --> 00:55:41,160
Speaker 3: Okay.

1096
00:55:41,480 --> 00:55:43,719
Speaker 2: People never saw him as an A list actor, but

1097
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:45,520
Speaker 2: he saw himself as an A list actor.

1098
00:55:45,640 --> 00:55:46,000
Speaker 3: True.

1099
00:55:46,239 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 2: So what I realized is nobody is going to love

1100
00:55:49,040 --> 00:55:51,440
Speaker 2: me the way that I love myself, okay, And that

1101
00:55:51,600 --> 00:55:53,400
Speaker 2: as long as it took me to become a rapper,

1102
00:55:53,440 --> 00:55:56,520
Speaker 2: I know it would take me longer to become Superman.

1103
00:55:57,360 --> 00:55:59,520
Speaker 2: So if I wanted our children to see a superhero,

1104
00:55:59,680 --> 00:56:01,960
Speaker 2: I have to believe in myself at that level and

1105
00:56:02,040 --> 00:56:04,680
Speaker 2: I would have to shoot it. I say this to

1106
00:56:04,840 --> 00:56:09,719
Speaker 2: all the kids, listen to me. Shoot it, Just shoot it.

1107
00:56:10,680 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 3: Shannon.

1108
00:56:11,080 --> 00:56:12,800
Speaker 2: You didn't know if this shit was gonna pop or not.

1109
00:56:13,000 --> 00:56:13,719
Speaker 3: You don't, but you.

1110
00:56:13,760 --> 00:56:15,759
Speaker 2: Felt it in you felt it in your spirit, and

1111
00:56:15,800 --> 00:56:20,840
Speaker 2: you shoty. Just shoot shoot into the gun, empty and

1112
00:56:21,040 --> 00:56:24,359
Speaker 2: keep busting that it could just be going click click click,

1113
00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:28,719
Speaker 2: click click, Just keep shooting and Bro it to happen. Like,

1114
00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,799
Speaker 2: I really believe that God conspires, I think bro, the

1115
00:56:32,840 --> 00:56:35,239
Speaker 2: way that And I'm only saying this, Bro, because you

1116
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:39,080
Speaker 2: have access to our people. It's not that I'm trying

1117
00:56:39,080 --> 00:56:42,040
Speaker 2: to put you in a peculiar, peculiar situation, Bro, But

1118
00:56:42,160 --> 00:56:45,400
Speaker 2: like I believe that the way that we pray to

1119
00:56:45,440 --> 00:56:48,680
Speaker 2: God is wrong. I think that God really want to

1120
00:56:48,719 --> 00:56:51,080
Speaker 2: help us do what we want to do. But if

1121
00:56:51,080 --> 00:56:56,120
Speaker 2: you say you and okay, if you say you a

1122
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:58,759
Speaker 2: God and you act like it, give you that too

1123
00:57:00,120 --> 00:57:03,560
Speaker 2: you pray for, you will get and your true prayers,

1124
00:57:03,640 --> 00:57:06,000
Speaker 2: what you think about and what you talk about the most.

1125
00:57:06,040 --> 00:57:09,600
Speaker 2: You may pray one time to God, but in your

1126
00:57:09,719 --> 00:57:14,160
Speaker 2: ordinary everyday life, were talking about negativity, hate, poverty. That's

1127
00:57:14,160 --> 00:57:18,520
Speaker 2: what you gonna get, Shannon. I could tell when you talked, Bro,

1128
00:57:18,720 --> 00:57:22,480
Speaker 2: you wanted to be successful so bad.

1129
00:57:22,520 --> 00:57:22,680
Speaker 3: Bro.

1130
00:57:22,760 --> 00:57:25,080
Speaker 2: You wanted that bread so bad.

1131
00:57:25,240 --> 00:57:25,439
Speaker 3: Bro.

1132
00:57:25,760 --> 00:57:29,880
Speaker 2: That was your prayer, so you got it. Other things

1133
00:57:29,880 --> 00:57:32,040
Speaker 2: that come along with that. That's what they don't teach us.

1134
00:57:33,080 --> 00:57:39,720
Speaker 2: But hey man, it's it's scary now, Bro, Like how

1135
00:57:39,840 --> 00:57:43,080
Speaker 2: much I can move the universe around. And we got

1136
00:57:43,200 --> 00:57:46,080
Speaker 2: to stop acting like we surprised about it, man, and

1137
00:57:46,160 --> 00:57:48,760
Speaker 2: start getting back in touch with the stuff that our grandparents.

1138
00:57:48,840 --> 00:57:51,720
Speaker 2: And that's why I guess that gives so much love

1139
00:57:51,760 --> 00:57:55,400
Speaker 2: to Ryan Coogler and what he did with Sinners, because

1140
00:57:55,400 --> 00:57:58,240
Speaker 2: he was really trying to introduce black people to another

1141
00:57:58,320 --> 00:58:01,720
Speaker 2: part of our spirituality that we love that our grandparents

1142
00:58:01,840 --> 00:58:03,400
Speaker 2: knew about. And I'm not gonna talk about it on

1143
00:58:03,440 --> 00:58:05,280
Speaker 2: this show. We could talk about it later on, Bro,

1144
00:58:05,360 --> 00:58:08,560
Speaker 2: But there's another aspect of our spirituality, whether we agree

1145
00:58:08,600 --> 00:58:11,080
Speaker 2: with it or not, but it's more of our culture

1146
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,080
Speaker 2: than what we say that we believe in, and we

1147
00:58:14,160 --> 00:58:17,720
Speaker 2: turn our nose up a man, And I'm just starting

1148
00:58:17,760 --> 00:58:21,640
Speaker 2: to realize, man, that I have more power and dominion

1149
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:25,440
Speaker 2: over how I live my life and I just have

1150
00:58:25,520 --> 00:58:29,120
Speaker 2: to stand up as a man and accept that. And Bro,

1151
00:58:29,680 --> 00:58:33,520
Speaker 2: it's not easy and it's scary. But Shannon, you called

1152
00:58:34,680 --> 00:58:36,520
Speaker 2: the shit that you did. Ain't nobody ever did the

1153
00:58:36,520 --> 00:58:40,200
Speaker 2: shit that you did. Bro, No black man in the

1154
00:58:40,280 --> 00:58:42,600
Speaker 2: podcast space Bro to do the shit that you did

1155
00:58:42,640 --> 00:58:46,440
Speaker 2: the way that you did it. Bro. Bro, they thought

1156
00:58:46,440 --> 00:58:49,760
Speaker 2: you was a country bumpkin. Bro, you showed them me

1157
00:58:49,880 --> 00:58:52,919
Speaker 2: being from the country means more than you being tight ass.

1158
00:58:52,960 --> 00:58:54,840
Speaker 2: And then if you notice, they started to try to

1159
00:58:54,840 --> 00:58:57,880
Speaker 2: act like you. No, you can't beat me being me. No,

1160
00:58:57,960 --> 00:59:00,800
Speaker 2: you better stay tight ass like you being stay where

1161
00:59:00,880 --> 00:59:04,320
Speaker 2: you stay, bro. And again, BROH watched how you studied. Bro,

1162
00:59:04,920 --> 00:59:08,320
Speaker 2: you put yourself in a very uncomfortable situation. And it's

1163
00:59:08,360 --> 00:59:10,960
Speaker 2: funny now even when I watched when you did the intro,

1164
00:59:12,160 --> 00:59:16,040
Speaker 2: it's so polished, and I was thinking to myself, like, Bro,

1165
00:59:16,120 --> 00:59:16,840
Speaker 2: you really free.

1166
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:18,600
Speaker 3: That's what you choose to do.

1167
00:59:18,680 --> 00:59:19,480
Speaker 2: That's fine.

1168
00:59:19,920 --> 00:59:20,040
Speaker 3: Bro.

1169
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 2: You literally at a point where you can do what

1170
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:24,400
Speaker 2: you choose to do. And you did that hard work

1171
00:59:24,440 --> 00:59:27,800
Speaker 2: so you can be free. Yeah, just understand man, that

1172
00:59:27,840 --> 00:59:31,120
Speaker 2: you did that. Bro, I promise brought studied you.

1173
00:59:31,120 --> 00:59:31,880
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying.

1174
00:59:32,520 --> 00:59:38,000
Speaker 1: So it's a blessing Gatorade you you redid that twelve

1175
00:59:38,040 --> 00:59:39,680
Speaker 1: times and they still didn't use it.

1176
00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:43,120
Speaker 2: You know they end up using it. Yeah, it is

1177
00:59:43,160 --> 00:59:44,840
Speaker 2: the second biggest Gatorade. I don't know if it's still

1178
00:59:44,880 --> 00:59:47,360
Speaker 2: is the second big biggest Gatorade commercial in history.

1179
00:59:47,520 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 3: Wow. Yeah, I mean, like you done? So? Do you ever?

1180
00:59:52,160 --> 00:59:54,080
Speaker 1: I mean, have you taken the time? Because then I

1181
00:59:54,080 --> 00:59:55,400
Speaker 1: tell this is what I tell people. I was like

1182
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:59,320
Speaker 1: when I was playing. I don't know. I never smelled

1183
00:59:59,320 --> 01:00:01,240
Speaker 1: the roses because I was so cold.

1184
01:00:01,280 --> 01:00:03,320
Speaker 2: I was so focused on making sure I did right

1185
01:00:03,400 --> 01:00:05,360
Speaker 2: and I was staying on top of my game.

1186
01:00:05,800 --> 01:00:06,439
Speaker 3: Is that now?

1187
01:00:06,520 --> 01:00:08,720
Speaker 2: Sometimes when I see stuff, I like, Damn, I did that,

1188
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:12,120
Speaker 2: and people will use you because they know you don't

1189
01:00:12,120 --> 01:00:13,600
Speaker 2: see yourself.

1190
01:00:13,640 --> 01:00:14,440
Speaker 3: Women do it.

1191
01:00:14,720 --> 01:00:19,840
Speaker 2: Corporations do it like they smell like. Women are really

1192
01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:24,439
Speaker 2: good at seeing our potential that we don't see. Corporations

1193
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:30,640
Speaker 2: see the stuff that we don't see. Bro, Like I, Bro,

1194
01:00:30,760 --> 01:00:32,640
Speaker 2: this is really hard for me to say. Bro, I

1195
01:00:32,800 --> 01:00:34,240
Speaker 2: was I was on.

1196
01:00:34,160 --> 01:00:35,160
Speaker 3: This white show. Bro.

1197
01:00:36,160 --> 01:00:40,640
Speaker 2: Any white boys had had studied me so hard, and

1198
01:00:40,680 --> 01:00:43,000
Speaker 2: they talked about all the stuff that I did, Shannon,

1199
01:00:43,040 --> 01:00:46,200
Speaker 2: and I can't bullshit you, Bro. It made me tired,

1200
01:00:47,720 --> 01:00:49,760
Speaker 2: Like I literally got tired, like I'm gonna go home

1201
01:00:49,800 --> 01:00:53,960
Speaker 2: and go to sleep, Like, man, I've done so much

1202
01:00:54,040 --> 01:00:56,280
Speaker 2: at such a high level, bro, And it hurt me,

1203
01:00:56,360 --> 01:01:01,960
Speaker 2: Bro because most black people don't give up, and I

1204
01:01:02,040 --> 01:01:05,320
Speaker 2: do what I do for black people and they probably

1205
01:01:05,360 --> 01:01:06,320
Speaker 2: care the least.

1206
01:01:07,040 --> 01:01:09,920
Speaker 3: What did wasn't I the Bible? You remember how Jesus

1207
01:01:09,920 --> 01:01:10,760
Speaker 3: did who you worked for?

1208
01:01:11,800 --> 01:01:15,480
Speaker 2: Yeah, But I mean it's easy to say that, Bro.

1209
01:01:15,760 --> 01:01:19,880
Speaker 3: It is. You know it hurt. It hurts. Yeah, it

1210
01:01:19,960 --> 01:01:20,800
Speaker 3: hurts more.

1211
01:01:21,040 --> 01:01:23,760
Speaker 1: It does when it comes like the outside saying whatever

1212
01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:24,360
Speaker 1: I can.

1213
01:01:24,440 --> 01:01:27,040
Speaker 2: And I don't want my ship when I'm when I'm dead.

1214
01:01:27,120 --> 01:01:27,320
Speaker 3: Bro.

1215
01:01:27,720 --> 01:01:33,320
Speaker 2: Think about Basquiacht, Bro, how much people are taking advantage

1216
01:01:33,360 --> 01:01:36,360
Speaker 2: of his art and his own family can't live off

1217
01:01:36,400 --> 01:01:40,360
Speaker 2: of his genius. Bro, and he died suffering. Bro, he

1218
01:01:40,480 --> 01:01:46,000
Speaker 2: wasn't happy. Come on, Bro, I'm not gonna do that ship, y'all.

1219
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:47,360
Speaker 2: I'm not doing that.

1220
01:01:47,480 --> 01:01:47,680
Speaker 3: Man.

1221
01:01:48,680 --> 01:01:50,200
Speaker 2: Look at Malcolm and Martin. Bro.

1222
01:01:50,280 --> 01:01:56,640
Speaker 3: They family is suffering. Dude, Dad, I'm not doing that.

1223
01:01:56,720 --> 01:01:56,880
Speaker 4: Bro.

1224
01:01:56,960 --> 01:01:59,680
Speaker 2: It gotta be a better way. And if God gave

1225
01:01:59,800 --> 01:02:02,760
Speaker 2: us those examples, why go down that man. Look man,

1226
01:02:03,120 --> 01:02:03,960
Speaker 2: that's what I'm telling you.

1227
01:02:03,960 --> 01:02:07,240
Speaker 3: Bro. We gotta do better. We're talking to each.

1228
01:02:07,040 --> 01:02:11,520
Speaker 2: Other man, and and and pulling each other aside and

1229
01:02:11,560 --> 01:02:14,000
Speaker 2: being like, man, come on, bro, it's funny.

1230
01:02:14,000 --> 01:02:14,160
Speaker 3: Man.

1231
01:02:14,200 --> 01:02:16,800
Speaker 2: One of my homeboys worked for the biggest shoe company

1232
01:02:16,960 --> 01:02:20,440
Speaker 2: in the world and then they putting my homie through it, dude,

1233
01:02:20,480 --> 01:02:22,000
Speaker 2: and I just called him. I was like, Bro, I

1234
01:02:22,000 --> 01:02:23,040
Speaker 2: got a room in my house.

1235
01:02:23,080 --> 01:02:23,200
Speaker 3: Bro.

1236
01:02:23,240 --> 01:02:25,920
Speaker 2: I know you rich, but just come on down to

1237
01:02:25,960 --> 01:02:30,000
Speaker 2: the crib man. Let's talk, not even talk. That's what

1238
01:02:30,040 --> 01:02:31,880
Speaker 2: I did with T Pain, that fuck that fucked T

1239
01:02:32,080 --> 01:02:32,440
Speaker 2: Pain up.

1240
01:02:32,440 --> 01:02:32,560
Speaker 3: Man.

1241
01:02:32,560 --> 01:02:34,640
Speaker 2: When T Pain was going through a shit, I brought

1242
01:02:34,640 --> 01:02:36,160
Speaker 2: T Pain into my house and this is going It

1243
01:02:36,240 --> 01:02:39,680
Speaker 2: freaked him out because I had just started understanding meditation.

1244
01:02:39,880 --> 01:02:42,280
Speaker 2: I made T Paint calling to my house and sit

1245
01:02:42,400 --> 01:02:45,240
Speaker 2: on my porch and he couldn't say nothing to.

1246
01:02:45,160 --> 01:02:45,840
Speaker 3: Me for an hour.

1247
01:02:46,680 --> 01:02:49,240
Speaker 2: I said, just sit there, and then motherfucker was sitting

1248
01:02:49,240 --> 01:02:52,560
Speaker 2: there shaking because he had never been in a space

1249
01:02:52,600 --> 01:02:54,200
Speaker 2: where somebody cared about him enough.

1250
01:02:54,240 --> 01:02:56,680
Speaker 3: Well, I don't need nothing from you. I just need

1251
01:02:56,680 --> 01:02:56,960
Speaker 3: for you.

1252
01:02:57,000 --> 01:03:00,919
Speaker 2: To sit there and process life, bro, And most people

1253
01:03:00,960 --> 01:03:01,440
Speaker 2: don't do that.

1254
01:03:04,560 --> 01:03:06,720
Speaker 3: Have you always been a guy that wanted to help.

1255
01:03:06,600 --> 01:03:11,160
Speaker 2: People, Yeah, but not for the right reasons. I'm starting

1256
01:03:11,160 --> 01:03:15,960
Speaker 2: to realize now, man, that as I have a therapist

1257
01:03:16,120 --> 01:03:20,360
Speaker 2: and did I become more spiritual, I think I wanted

1258
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:23,160
Speaker 2: to help more. I wanted to help people so much

1259
01:03:23,200 --> 01:03:24,800
Speaker 2: because I had been hurt so much.

1260
01:03:26,440 --> 01:03:27,560
Speaker 3: And my ego.

1261
01:03:29,000 --> 01:03:31,440
Speaker 2: And like, man, that preacher told me that. The Mississippi

1262
01:03:31,440 --> 01:03:33,440
Speaker 2: preacher said, you keep playing Jesus and wonder why you

1263
01:03:33,520 --> 01:03:37,600
Speaker 2: end up on a cross. Wow, it ain't your responsibility

1264
01:03:37,600 --> 01:03:40,080
Speaker 2: to say nobody it ain't my responsibility, bro, Like that

1265
01:03:40,160 --> 01:03:41,880
Speaker 2: was the hardest thing. But I thought it was my

1266
01:03:41,920 --> 01:03:46,200
Speaker 2: responsibility to say, Mississippi, it's not do what you can

1267
01:03:46,240 --> 01:03:49,919
Speaker 2: and go to home. Because one thing I actually learned

1268
01:03:49,920 --> 01:03:51,600
Speaker 2: is from the Spider Man movie. I don't know if

1269
01:03:51,640 --> 01:03:54,960
Speaker 2: you remember when the Green Goblin was on him and

1270
01:03:54,960 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 2: Spider Man was on the top of Toby movie and

1271
01:03:57,760 --> 01:04:01,160
Speaker 2: he said, live long enough, hero to be the villain.

1272
01:04:02,480 --> 01:04:04,840
Speaker 2: No matter how good I did, no matter how much

1273
01:04:04,880 --> 01:04:09,480
Speaker 2: I worked, still talk shit about me, no matter how

1274
01:04:09,560 --> 01:04:12,760
Speaker 2: much good I did, still say I ain't never I

1275
01:04:12,800 --> 01:04:14,680
Speaker 2: ain't never done nothing.

1276
01:04:15,120 --> 01:04:16,200
Speaker 3: Never ever.

1277
01:04:16,360 --> 01:04:18,880
Speaker 2: Ever, that's what you're gonna say to me, I ain't

1278
01:04:19,000 --> 01:04:23,840
Speaker 2: never done nothing. So I realized you just have to

1279
01:04:23,920 --> 01:04:27,800
Speaker 2: have the resolve in yourself to do God's work and

1280
01:04:27,920 --> 01:04:31,360
Speaker 2: sit in it and go to home. Because Shannon, no bullshit.

1281
01:04:31,440 --> 01:04:36,280
Speaker 2: I said this three two times on your show already, Bro, Bro,

1282
01:04:36,320 --> 01:04:41,919
Speaker 2: I always wanted children. I ain't got no and no wife. Bro,

1283
01:04:43,040 --> 01:04:45,840
Speaker 2: you still gonna have that better? Yeah? But I don't.

1284
01:04:46,120 --> 01:04:49,280
Speaker 3: I don't have are you Are you putting yourself in position?

1285
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:49,760
Speaker 2: No?

1286
01:04:50,120 --> 01:04:52,960
Speaker 1: Okay, then, but I don't know how Shannon. I mean,

1287
01:04:53,000 --> 01:04:54,440
Speaker 1: you can run a math, Bob, but you got to

1288
01:04:54,440 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: get to the start line.

1289
01:04:56,120 --> 01:05:00,120
Speaker 2: You sure, yes, you might want to recap? Do you

1290
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,360
Speaker 2: film want to run no marathon? No, I'm just saying, like, Shannon, honestly, bro,

1291
01:05:03,480 --> 01:05:04,600
Speaker 2: Like it's easy to say it.

1292
01:05:04,680 --> 01:05:06,680
Speaker 3: I used to tell my dad that all the time, Like.

1293
01:05:06,680 --> 01:05:09,680
Speaker 1: How many rappers before you came out of the Mississippi. How

1294
01:05:09,720 --> 01:05:11,560
Speaker 1: many people don't TV before you came out to Misissippi?

1295
01:05:11,600 --> 01:05:14,800
Speaker 1: Black people look like you, talk like you, act like you. Okay, then,

1296
01:05:14,840 --> 01:05:17,040
Speaker 1: but what I'm telling you, Shannon, I'm serious though, Bro.

1297
01:05:17,160 --> 01:05:18,960
Speaker 1: It's like I used to.

1298
01:05:19,000 --> 01:05:20,760
Speaker 2: Tell my dad all the time, just show me how

1299
01:05:20,800 --> 01:05:21,320
Speaker 2: to do it.

1300
01:05:21,400 --> 01:05:22,200
Speaker 3: I don't know.

1301
01:05:22,120 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 2: What to all. I know how he can't show you

1302
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,880
Speaker 2: what he don't know. I never thought about that too, Shae.

1303
01:05:28,280 --> 01:05:29,560
Speaker 2: I've never used that word.

1304
01:05:29,920 --> 01:05:31,240
Speaker 3: Yeah too shape.

1305
01:05:31,240 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 2: But like I'm serious, Shannon, Like I don't I don't

1306
01:05:34,280 --> 01:05:35,960
Speaker 2: know what to do. I don't know what that shit

1307
01:05:36,120 --> 01:05:38,800
Speaker 2: look like, Honey, I don't know nothing but work my

1308
01:05:38,880 --> 01:05:41,200
Speaker 2: mentor tell me that all the time. You're on the

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01:05:41,200 --> 01:05:43,600
Speaker 2: hamster wheel again, ask you, mister Banner, tell you.

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Speaker 3: My mentor is David Moody.

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01:05:45,040 --> 01:05:47,640
Speaker 2: He told me this, Shannon, watch this, he said, son,

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01:05:48,800 --> 01:05:53,080
Speaker 2: Say yes, sir, how many followers you got?

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01:05:53,680 --> 01:05:54,640
Speaker 3: Around four million?

1314
01:05:55,280 --> 01:06:00,240
Speaker 2: He said, the stuff that I teach you, if you

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01:06:00,280 --> 01:06:03,240
Speaker 2: gave it to your fans and your followers, I say yes, sir.

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01:06:04,600 --> 01:06:06,640
Speaker 3: He said. Okay, he said, don't I.

1317
01:06:06,600 --> 01:06:10,000
Speaker 2: Tell you you do too much all the time. Say yes, sir.

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01:06:10,320 --> 01:06:12,280
Speaker 3: So let me ask you this. If you.

1319
01:06:14,160 --> 01:06:18,040
Speaker 2: Teach your fans and your people and your followers what

1320
01:06:18,240 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 2: I taught you, how many people have I influenced?

1321
01:06:25,080 --> 01:06:26,040
Speaker 3: Four million and one?

1322
01:06:27,160 --> 01:06:29,600
Speaker 2: He looked at me directly in my eyes, and David

1323
01:06:29,640 --> 01:06:32,320
Speaker 2: Moody said, how many people that I concentrate on?

1324
01:06:34,040 --> 01:06:38,920
Speaker 3: I said, just me, dann you Wow, bars, that's it.

1325
01:06:39,240 --> 01:06:41,800
Speaker 3: Y'all ain't gotta say shit behind them tabs. That was dope.

1326
01:06:41,960 --> 01:06:43,080
Speaker 3: You know that shit was dope.

1327
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:48,320
Speaker 2: I know that y'all usually don't applaud, says Tabra.

1328
01:06:48,400 --> 01:06:49,840
Speaker 3: But y'all can give me a little bit from that

1329
01:06:49,880 --> 01:06:53,560
Speaker 3: come out. Yeah, I tap your motherfuckers white folks too. Yeah,

1330
01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:57,560
Speaker 3: that was it. That was it before we wrap. How

1331
01:06:57,560 --> 01:07:03,640
Speaker 3: do you like that change? But that's not okay? Look

1332
01:07:03,760 --> 01:07:05,280
Speaker 3: like waight yeah, little little.

1333
01:07:07,120 --> 01:07:10,000
Speaker 2: Shy to talk all that shit about that. Now running water, Oh,

1334
01:07:10,080 --> 01:07:12,440
Speaker 2: this is change is just so ic and watery. For

1335
01:07:12,520 --> 01:07:14,840
Speaker 2: all the water that I didn't have anything.

1336
01:07:14,840 --> 01:07:16,760
Speaker 1: You got anything, you promote, you got an album, you

1337
01:07:16,760 --> 01:07:17,680
Speaker 1: got a TV show?

1338
01:07:18,680 --> 01:07:21,000
Speaker 3: What you got? Tell people that telling people because people

1339
01:07:21,000 --> 01:07:21,600
Speaker 3: can watch.

1340
01:07:21,440 --> 01:07:27,240
Speaker 2: This Family Business New Orleans. You can look at it

1341
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:32,680
Speaker 2: on Amazon BT plus Fight Night. I got some movies

1342
01:07:32,720 --> 01:07:34,760
Speaker 2: coming out, man. The main thing that I will ask

1343
01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 2: my people is just don't leave me alone, Shannon.

1344
01:07:39,000 --> 01:07:40,240
Speaker 3: You know how this ship feels.

1345
01:07:40,560 --> 01:07:43,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, when people come after you, Folks leave you all

1346
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:46,440
Speaker 2: by you, but.

1347
01:07:46,520 --> 01:07:48,640
Speaker 1: To give you an opportunity, though David, to find out

1348
01:07:48,640 --> 01:07:51,960
Speaker 1: who was always who was really there for the right reason.

1349
01:07:52,040 --> 01:07:54,640
Speaker 2: I'm just asking for people not to do that to me,

1350
01:07:55,840 --> 01:07:58,880
Speaker 2: like I stand for y'all. One of the things I

1351
01:07:58,960 --> 01:08:01,760
Speaker 2: realized with my sex sus Shannon, is that really black

1352
01:08:01,760 --> 01:08:05,160
Speaker 2: people can't figure out why I came back. Most people

1353
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,280
Speaker 2: get the fame that I've been able to accrue, and

1354
01:08:07,320 --> 01:08:11,080
Speaker 2: they leave black people. I love my people. I run

1355
01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:15,400
Speaker 2: towards my people, and the thing that hurts me the

1356
01:08:15,440 --> 01:08:20,000
Speaker 2: most is not I expect the swords from the enemies

1357
01:08:21,160 --> 01:08:25,200
Speaker 2: or people who have historically not loved us. I still

1358
01:08:25,240 --> 01:08:28,320
Speaker 2: can't registrate from my people, and I know it comes

1359
01:08:28,320 --> 01:08:30,280
Speaker 2: from a hurt place. I know it comes from an

1360
01:08:30,280 --> 01:08:35,240
Speaker 2: ignorant place. But I real, real, lie love black folks,

1361
01:08:35,840 --> 01:08:39,000
Speaker 2: a real, real live like people think I'm joking when

1362
01:08:39,040 --> 01:08:41,480
Speaker 2: I talk about the admiration that I have for black women.

1363
01:08:41,880 --> 01:08:43,920
Speaker 3: I mean that with all my heart. Bro.

1364
01:08:45,040 --> 01:08:48,679
Speaker 2: I love people that look like my mama. I love

1365
01:08:48,720 --> 01:08:50,799
Speaker 2: people that look like my grandmother.

1366
01:08:50,920 --> 01:08:51,120
Speaker 3: Bro.

1367
01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:53,720
Speaker 2: I mean that shit with all my heart, bro. And

1368
01:08:55,240 --> 01:08:57,840
Speaker 2: it hurts me to even fathom that people don't feel

1369
01:08:57,840 --> 01:09:00,000
Speaker 2: the same way about me when they may not even

1370
01:09:00,120 --> 01:09:04,000
Speaker 2: have the capacity to. And I'm smart enough to understand that,

1371
01:09:04,040 --> 01:09:06,160
Speaker 2: but that don't stop me from being in the flesh.

1372
01:09:06,640 --> 01:09:09,640
Speaker 2: Only thing that I asked managed to for people to

1373
01:09:09,720 --> 01:09:13,320
Speaker 2: give me the same thing that you give Hines Ketchup

1374
01:09:14,600 --> 01:09:16,960
Speaker 2: that you get a gas company, that you get a

1375
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:20,400
Speaker 2: light company in southern places where we're from.

1376
01:09:21,040 --> 01:09:21,920
Speaker 3: You give your.

1377
01:09:22,040 --> 01:09:29,520
Speaker 2: Un dying attention in paper two, that you give butt Wiser,

1378
01:09:30,080 --> 01:09:33,880
Speaker 2: that you give Hennessy. That's what I want, bro, And

1379
01:09:33,920 --> 01:09:35,720
Speaker 2: if you can't give me what you give them, then

1380
01:09:35,720 --> 01:09:36,280
Speaker 2: I'm cool.

1381
01:09:37,360 --> 01:09:39,000
Speaker 1: I'm gonna tell you, I'm gonna get out of here

1382
01:09:39,000 --> 01:09:40,360
Speaker 1: on this and I'm gonna share with you what my

1383
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:44,000
Speaker 1: therapist shared with me. She says, Shanna, your biggest mistake

1384
01:09:44,200 --> 01:09:49,760
Speaker 1: is that you see yourself and other people. Bars, you

1385
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:55,280
Speaker 1: think people it's gonna treat you like you would treat them,

1386
01:09:55,400 --> 01:09:57,280
Speaker 1: or like you would want to be treated. He said,

1387
01:09:57,280 --> 01:09:59,799
Speaker 1: that's your she said, that is your mistake.

1388
01:10:00,040 --> 01:10:03,799
Speaker 3: Bars. I can't say nothing of that one. Bro, David Banner,

1389
01:10:06,560 --> 01:10:08,240
Speaker 3: hold on, worry, can I do this? I know this

1390
01:10:08,240 --> 01:10:13,960
Speaker 3: has never happened before, Shannon Shark. You needed that, didn't Yeah?

1391
01:10:14,320 --> 01:10:16,640
Speaker 2: Pat your good question before we go? Yeah, did you

1392
01:10:16,760 --> 01:10:17,439
Speaker 2: enjoy yourself?

1393
01:10:17,479 --> 01:10:20,880
Speaker 3: I did? I did you? Brother spelt like therapy? Yeah,

1394
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:21,320
Speaker 3: it did.

1395
01:10:21,520 --> 01:10:24,479
Speaker 2: This is actually a little spooky to me, Bro, And

1396
01:10:24,600 --> 01:10:26,439
Speaker 2: I have to tell y'all, I don't know whether he

1397
01:10:26,520 --> 01:10:27,160
Speaker 2: gonna keep this.

1398
01:10:27,479 --> 01:10:29,439
Speaker 3: But half of the interview I had to piss.

1399
01:10:30,200 --> 01:10:32,679
Speaker 2: And I was so upset that I had to piss

1400
01:10:32,840 --> 01:10:35,120
Speaker 2: because I'm a man of discipline. I said, how do

1401
01:10:35,800 --> 01:10:39,000
Speaker 2: you get on this platform and had this opportunity and

1402
01:10:39,120 --> 01:10:41,400
Speaker 2: have to piss? And then what I was told is like,

1403
01:10:41,520 --> 01:10:44,040
Speaker 2: that's all ry, you human, go piss exactly, And I

1404
01:10:44,040 --> 01:10:45,559
Speaker 2: went and pissed. I don't know how you're gonna edit

1405
01:10:45,600 --> 01:10:47,880
Speaker 2: that though, And I wanted to say pissed on the

1406
01:10:47,920 --> 01:10:48,360
Speaker 2: shade shed.

1407
01:10:48,439 --> 01:10:49,519
Speaker 3: Yeah we're good.

1408
01:10:49,600 --> 01:10:55,280
Speaker 2: Okay, not literally, but you know, yeah.

1409
01:10:54,240 --> 01:10:58,920
Speaker 4: All my life, running, all my life, sacrifice, hustle Price

1410
01:11:00,560 --> 01:11:03,800
Speaker 4: got the brother all my life. I've been grinding all

1411
01:11:03,840 --> 01:11:06,559
Speaker 4: my life, all my life, grunning all.

1412
01:11:06,520 --> 01:11:08,240
Speaker 1: My life, sacrifice.

1413
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:09,559
Speaker 3: That's who play the Price.

1414
01:11:10,280 --> 01:11:13,760
Speaker 4: One slice got to brow wa all my life. I've

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01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:52,640
Speaker 4: been grinding all my life, h